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Some of these verses are Unbelievable (Ft. Mohamad Ali) · After Maghrib 🌙

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June 9th anymore. And that's none other than
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Muhammad Ali or Keira Ahmed Gokul.
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Both of you. How's it?
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Going bro, you don't actually. You don't actually host.
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Anymore. Yeah, it's even said in my last
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episode that you're going to see me here and there on the
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Aftermath podcast. Just tells us how much said I
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didn't watch his day. The whole point is, what are you
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still doing here? No, it's good.
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To have you on man. For those who don't know, who
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haven't tuned in to the outro, can you tell us what's the
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latest? The latest is that yeah, we just
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basically went through what we've been through on Drama
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Nights, all of the different kind of things that we covered,
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the aims and objectives that have been reached in Drama
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Nights, because obviously it started with these aims and
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objectives. And Hamdallah, I feel like to
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the best of my ability, we have achieved them.
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I hope, I guess, you know, yes, So yeah, Inshallah obviously
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moving on for the future. And I mentioned in the episode
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that inshallah, we do have projects planned for the future,
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so it's not like I'm going away or anything.
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And obviously this is proof of that just one week after my
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outro SO. But do you know what bro?
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Like for I think for a lot of people who watch Jamaah Knights
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and watch the podcast, they'll see like a clear distinction in
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in goals and objectives and methodology between the two.
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And obviously Jamaah Knights is very literature based and core
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when it comes to Quran and Hadith.
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And obviously the focus on the Imam as well.
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And that's like a constant on across the 50 episodes.
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And obviously the podcast will talk about more social issues
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and more contemporary stuff as well.
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But the episode today is relevant.
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It's kind of like a Jummah Knights topic, so.
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I kind of wish I did it actually now, like in Jummah.
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We go, but you're here, so let's help us on opportunities now.
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So what are we talking about? Sharla, we're looking to
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discuss, I think more so miracles of the Quran,
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prophecies from the Quran. But I think let's begin here,
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honey. I think every religion out there
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claims to have a form of miracle associated to their faith and if
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you ask every Muslim around the world, myself, Ahmed and
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yourself will all say the same thing.
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What's the biggest miracle God gave to Islam, which is the book
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of Allah, the Quran, the revelation that came down to
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Rasulullah Muhammad, sallallahu alaihi wasallam Allah, Muhammad,
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Muhammad. But then what does that mean?
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Like what does that entail? Because everyone can say it's
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miraculous but do we really know what is miraculous about the
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miracle of the Quran? From my understanding, I know
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there it's there's more to the miracle of the Quran than just
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its linguistic field, if we can say right.
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But I remember growing up as a child hearing the story of
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Alwaleed bin Mooreira and a conversation that he had with
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Abu Jahl, when Rasoolallah Muhammad sallallahu alaihi Wali
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wasalam would go near the cabe and he'd utter the revelation
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that came down to him. He'd utter the verses of the
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Quran and people and Mecca would hear and they'll be mesmerized.
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No, they'll be interested. The hearts will sway towards
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what's this Arabic language? What's this we've never heard,
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you know, Arabic in its form, the way that Rasul Allah was
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uttering, right? So Abu Jahel will tell al
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Waleed, al Muhaira, you know, go and try to tell the people that
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what he's saying is normal, is fine.
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There's nothing special, there's novel, nothing miraculous about
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the Arabic language that he's using.
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And as far as I'm aware, you know, he comes back to Abu Jahel
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and tells him it's impossible what you want me to do, It's
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impossible, right? Because there is nothing that
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will match the Arabic and the linguistic terms that Rasulullah
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was using with the revelation. And Abu Jahil tells him, you
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know what, we're going to stop giving you money.
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You know, you're no longer going to be on our payroll if you're
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not going to go and tell the people that.
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What al sallallahu alaihi wasallam saying, there's nothing
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miraculous about it. Anyhow, back and forth.
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And there's a whole chapter about this in the Quran, if I'm
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not mistaken, which speaks about it.
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And the Quran now counters that and says, you know, try and do
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10 chapters similar. And then he goes on father and
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says, forget her and try to do 1.
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And it doesn't. So I know, I know the miracle of
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the Quran. Yes, it stems from its
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linguistic Arabic language. But I know there is more.
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And I do want you to speak about the linguistics of the Quran and
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why it's special. But we do live in a day and age
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where the Quran no longer just came to Arabs.
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Islam is no longer just in the Middle East, in Mecca, in, in,
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you know, in HJAS. It's Islam is global.
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So there are more miracles that we want to understand about the
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Quran. And here's your opportunity to
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start JN Volume 2. I think you know what, what's
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really interesting about the miracle of the Quran is that
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when you look at the kind of the the miracles that came with the
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previous prophets, you look at, for example, at the time of
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Nebula Hai Musa, right? The miracle that he received was
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of being able to make the stick into the snake, for example, and
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to defeat the greatest kind of knowledge at that time, which
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was magic, right? And then you have the same thing
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with Nebula Hai Issa, for example, with medicine.
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And no matter how good of a doctor you are, you can't bring
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someone back to life. Yes, right.
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So that was the miracle that he had.
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So that was a proper hodja upon all of the people because they
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can see that this is the science that we have the most knowledge
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in and he's been able to do something that nobody can do,
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right? So the same way the, the miracle
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that he's given is the one that the people of his time
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specialized in the masters of eloquence of that time in the
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Arabic language. And that was the challenge,
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obviously, as you said, that the Quran.
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Was it more so in poetry, by the way?
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So. The Quran actually says not to
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call it poetry. OK, in one of the schools.
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Not as in the Arabs, not the Quran itself.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100% in, in poetry and rhetoric and
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eloquence. The Arabs at that time were
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very, very like, they were like, even if you look at some of the
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poetry of Jahiliya, like it's very, very eloquent.
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And some of them were very, very good, even obviously.
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Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah. So, yeah, this this miracle, I
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think at that time why it was primarily linguistic is because
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of that fact. And obviously the Quran says and
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yeah. And that to bring a chapter like
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it if if they can, and it then goes on to say that they can't
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do it, they will, they will never be able to do it.
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So yeah, that's like like the kind of the kind of context
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around it. And then you see that we have a
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difference of opinion amongst the scholars with regards to the
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linguistic miracle. So there is the opinion that the
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the Quran in the way that it's been written, it's humanly
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impossible for somebody to be able to include as many
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rhetorical devices, as much eloquence as the Quran provides.
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For example, we see that some of the academics, they've looked
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into solar, solar culture, which is the smallest chapter of the
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Quran, 10 words. And they estimate that there's
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40 rhetorical devices used just in those 1010 words.
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So it's, it's crazy to think about like rhetorical devices
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obviously include things like similes, metaphors, you know,
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conciseness, like, you know, alliteration, those things that
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we learn in school, hyperbole, all of these things.
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And to think that in 10 words, you can use 40, it's it's like
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it's ridiculous, right? Yeah.
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So that opinion definitely existed that, you know, that
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it's impossible for a human to to do so.
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But some scholars, they felt like it was too much of a high
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claim to make. OK.
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Right. In that sense.
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So they used to believe in a, in a concept called surfer.
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Yeah. Which what?
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What it means is that they believe that the linguistic
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miracle of the Quran was that nobody could write anything like
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it because Allah would stop them physically from being able to do
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so even if they had the ability to write something like it.
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OK, so many of the scholars I believe say the Mutova, sorry,
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the classical scholars and even Shehad Mafid if I'm not
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mistaken. It's just like mainstream when
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you say many. This is this is what the
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classical scholars used to believe and many scholars even
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today they they do and hold the concept of Sarfa.
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And that's, you know, with regards to linguistic miracles.
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We can go into the linguistic somewhat examples as well in the
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Quran. But yeah, like if you guys want
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to like, you know, add on more, Ahmed, I'm sure you've got a lot
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to say. I don't know but to be honest am
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I? I'm just listening to words of
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excuse me. I think what you said about the
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the miracle of Quran is really pertinent and the miracles which
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the previous Ambia Aleh Musalam used as proof and a Hajja upon
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the people of their own infallibility and their own
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revelation from directly from Allah Spontala.
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And the Quran is something which I think is so profound in its
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mastery and its eloquence, its use of its lexical usage.
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And all of that is so deep and, and really intricate that at
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times when we, when we study the Holy Quran, we, we understand
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that the more we read the Holy Quran, the more we tend to
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understand that it is in complete harmony with itself and
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that it transcends time and culture and language.
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And really over the course of centuries and now millennia, the
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Holy Quran can, can be applicable.
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And we always say it's eternal. And it may sound cliche, but it
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really is because you can be from any tribal community at any
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point in the, in the course of history, you may, you may
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achieve doctorates and attain pH DS.
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But the Holy Quran will always humble the human race.
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And that is something which we have to remember.
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The Holy Quran will always put you back in your place and
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always remind you who's the master of the world's.
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And our last point says 300 times on the Quran to reflect
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and reflect and reflect. And so to Saad.
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So to Saad, excuse me, I'll ask 1 to Allah says in the Quran
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that this is a book which we have sent to people such that
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they may reflect and they take heed upon it.
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And I think that is a lot probing us as mankind to in
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essence tell us that this is a book.
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It has all of the answers and all you need to do is sit and
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read and reflect and apply. Because the Quran, it transcends
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the two covers of a book and it's more applicable once you
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understand the whole of Quran around you and not just in your
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hands. I think that's something which
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inshallah, hopefully today we can try and get more into and
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understand how the holy of Quran is actually not just relevant,
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but is the core of of modern day life.
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And it's it's symbiotic in its relationships with the Athlon
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Beta name of Salam as well. Because the Quran and the Athlon
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Beta are one and the same in essence, and we can't understand
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the Holy Quran without them, ultimately.
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Because this is a book, a divine book, and we are mere sinners,
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so we have means and mechanisms in which to understand that that
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miracle. Yeah, definitely.
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I have $1,000,000 question. Go for it.
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I need to know more miracles about the Quran.
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Honestly, I say this why because, you know, sometimes I
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see convert to or revert to come to the religion of Islam, and
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it's normally via them open choosing themselves.
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No one's forced them, right? They they purchase the Quran or
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they go to the local mosque and they had they get a copy of the
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Mustafa and they read it themselves in their own
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language, right in English, for example, and they find things on
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there that shocks them. You know, sometimes they come
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across verses that says, you know, I'm going to paraphrase,
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you know, we show you signs like do you deny them?
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For example, I think you know what I'm referencing to That's
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like one of the most top verse that they come across and they
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say, you know, that's so true. Or for example, where lately
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Baha with Shamsi that all these things they're like, you know,
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this makes sense. It's no longer just about okay
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after we had job after fast afraid no Islam, this war, God
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is sending us more. You know, there's science,
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there's astrology, there's there's like 100 million things
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that it's no longer just about me.
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But no, it's a way of life. Can I just I think what you're
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saying is it sorry, sorry. Because before Mohammed Ali
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answers, you know, I was telling you guys before for those who
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haven't seen last week's episode on on Colombia on the share of
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Colombia is amazing, brother. How the yeah.
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And what what the sisters told us after the podcast was that
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in, in their community in Colombia growing up as
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Catholics, they weren't given the Bible.
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They were told you're not allowed to take the copy of the
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Bible home and read it and reflect on it as you, because
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you'll have questions and those, those questions won't have
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answers, you know, in many communities.
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So, and, and you mentioned about reverts and the discovery of the
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Quran. The Quran is, is, is, is
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basically invites its reader to understand it more and to just
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dive deeper into it more. And I think it pulls someone in,
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especially someone who's void of of meaning and purpose and like
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spirituality and all of that, when they see the Holy Quran and
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they see that this feels like God's words.
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It feels like something in my soul which can I can understand
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to be the word of God. That penetrates the heart.
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It's different to any other book.
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Yeah, Yeah, of course. Yeah, man.
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So what is that? What is that?
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What's that connection that I, I, if I can say our last part of
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what I like gives to an individual that makes them feel
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this is a miraculous book? What is it?
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Yeah, I think we can. Like when you're speaking
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academically, you can kind of categorize it in so many
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different kind of aspects. Of just a little what?
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What? Like you know, what you
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mentioned, I think is, is is is is perfect because that
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emotional kind of side of because obviously we know that
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these are the words of Awa Subhan Allah.
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They're not going to be the same as the words of human beings.
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Even when you look at like, for example, Jinn and it mentions
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that some of the jinns, they say that, you know, like they went
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and they listened and they came back and they said we've heard
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something amazing. We've heard something Ajib
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right. So there's that feeling of awe
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and you know, like straight connection with a lot of panels,
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Allah, when you hear the Quran and that kind of feeling can't
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be discounted, but nor can it be discussed academically because
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it's something that is truly it's divine guidance, right?
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But when we're talking academically, I think you can
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kind of, you know, you can categorize the miracles in the
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following steps. You can categorize them into
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their prophecies, into the linguistic miracle of the Quran,
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the scientific miracle of the Quran and it's timeless nature
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as well, right? So these four, I would say, are
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generally speaking, what are the most discussed when we're
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speaking about academics. But there's one thing that I
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particularly think that a lot of people haven't focused on, and
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that is the confidence of the Quran, right?
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The Quran, when it speaks to you, it's, it challenges it, it
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says outlandish things right in the in the time of the prophet.
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It's relentless. He's living in Mecca, in the
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desert. He's a man that hasn't been
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taught by anybody. He's got very few followers in
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Mecca. He's being oppressed.
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His companions are being oppressed.
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They've been boycotted. Yeah.
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All of these things have happened now and at this point,
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anybody that is a rational human being that is looking at this
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from a political, strategic perspective, they think, you
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know what this guy's done for, this guy's gone and he's called
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to a religion and he can't handle the consequences.
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And it's that very time. The Quran answers to Rasulullah
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first, that Bhima took maruwa arid Anil mushrakin in Nakafi
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nak al mustahazin al ladi nahad yad unam allahi ilahan ahar sofa
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alamun. In that situation, you've got no
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food, you're being oppressed, you're being beaten.
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Everybody thinks that. You know what?
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That's it. Yeah.
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This is a man in the desert with a couple of followers.
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What is it going to come to you? And the Quran is speaking so
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confidently. It's telling him go and do what
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you've been ordered to do first that turn away from the
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polytheists in Nakafi Naka Musta has it in we're we're enough for
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you against the people that are mocking you.
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Yes, Yeah. Those who put a God alongside
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Allah, soon they're going to find out.
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Yes. At that point, that confidence,
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I feel like that is one of the biggest things for me that when
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I see that, that in Mecca at this point in time, the Quran
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can say that and for it to become something that is true.
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Because they did find out. They found out over the years of
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Rasulullah and Rasulullah was a was a prophet for how long?
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23 years, Over 23 years. Asafullah not a prophet.
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His, his mission of prophethood lasted for 23 years.
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And in this time they found out they, they, they saw that the
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religion of Allah in the Quran, it reigns supreme above all of
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the religions in the Arabian Peninsula.
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So that is, I think one of the, the great miracles of the Quran.
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But I'm sure you guys have come across a lot of scientific
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miracles. Anything that you guys want to
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mention? I'm sure you've come across
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them. Like, I don't want to make this
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a monologue. I think you'd know better, but
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you know, I've heard things. For example, the Quran
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references the I think the space and expanding as well as, you
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know, touches on things like Embryology, touches on things,
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for example, even like the honeybee and all things that I
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think at the time when it was revealed to a revelation was
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coming down didn't make sense. But now in the 21st century with
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the technology and the world we live in today, there's like
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there's no, there's there's no room to say there's any
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contradiction or something that has inaccuracy or nothing's
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factual. It's like we've reached a stage
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where everything the Quran mentions, there's evidence for.
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Yeah, and. I think that mesmerizes a lot of
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people, especially I think scientists or those who on the
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field of medicine and things like that.
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But but for the average person, I like me, I remember coming
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across. So I don't know the verse by
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heart, but we're speaking about the 2C's not mixing.
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Yeah, and. Soto, you know.
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Someone would say. Bahraini.
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Yeah, regarding this verse, sorry, I know you're quoting the
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the ire, but to think that Rasulullah Sallallahu alaihi
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wasallam would just utter words like this, right, Verses like
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this, but it wasn't relevant to their time.
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Yeah, this is how I see it, right.
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Like they they didn't really go into the seas, into the oceans.
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They didn't know nothing about space.
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They didn't have access to NASA, for example, and things like
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this. But it's it's as if when Rasul
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Allah was saying it there, he was saying it for our, our time
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period. Does it make sense?
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Yeah, yeah, absolutely. No, we'll just.
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Yeah, we'll just comply. OK, cool.
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It's it's. In.
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Both the first. Does exist?
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Yeah, in, in more than one place.
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Yeah, it's sort of for Pana, says verse #53.
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And he who is the one who matches the two bodies of water,
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one fresh and palatable and the other salty and bitter, placing
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it between them, a barrier that they cannot cross.
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You know, it's interesting. And these barriers you can
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visualise, you can see there's videos, there's everything.
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For it, there's, there's, there's other verses which are
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intricate and detailed enough, like that verse specifically.
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So for example, in, in the peninsula in Gibraltar, where
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you have the crossing of the Atlantic Ocean and the
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Mediterranean Sea and you have the salty and the sea water
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there. And the science has, has, I
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remember in our research this in the past, if water passes from
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1:00 to the other, it homogenizes, it loses its core
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characteristics and homogenizes with the water it's entering.
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So the salty water will lose all of its minerals and all of this
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and that and then enter the fresh water and it will adopt
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those characteristics as well. And you know, there's like, bro,
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there's so many scientific miracles in the and like I said,
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some are overt like that and some are perhaps more or less
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distinctive, shall we say, once, once you reflect on them.
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So for example, when Allah says that everything was created in
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pairs. And the more you reflect and the
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more you research and you understand that actually fruits
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and vegetables are created with male and female organs.
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Or for example, that you have a protons and neutrons and they,
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you know, every, every atom has this make up and there's no atom
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in the whole the universe which is without a pair in, in, in
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terms of its formation. And the ants, for example, the
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ants, when they talk about talk to talk in reference to Nabi
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Suleimani, they Salaam and they talk about between themselves.
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And you know, if you're reading that verse like 500 years ago
21:46
thinking, oh, this is, you know, sounds like a fairy tale.
21:48
Ants talking between themselves. If you study it, a colony of
21:51
ants, it's been found that their characteristics are very similar
21:55
to those of humans, that they congregate between themselves.
21:58
They even for example, they dispose of their food before the
22:01
winter so it doesn't rot. I've seen the commentaries on
22:03
this. Really.
22:04
Yeah, like, sure. There's.
22:06
So many there's in iron sent from space mentioned in the
22:09
Quran. I've got here pain receptors in
22:11
the skin. This one is crazy when Allah
22:13
talks about how in in the fire of hell, how the skin will be
22:18
burned and they will it will regrow such that it can
22:23
repeatedly feel pain. You know, only recently, like
22:26
the last 100 years, it, it was believed up until recently that
22:30
that pain receptors were found in the brain.
22:34
It's only recently been understood that it's actually in
22:36
the skin. So skin cells contains pain
22:39
receptors and not actually something in the brain.
22:42
The Big Bang theory and the Big Crunch theory, which again, 80
22:45
whatever, 90 years ago, Albert Einstein understood when he
22:49
talked about that. And up until now, you know, it's
22:52
proven in the Holy Quran that there's the expansions of the
22:55
universe and even the folding of the heavens and the earth.
22:57
Colon says we can keep going on and on and on.
23:00
There's so many of them, you know, astrology and astronomy.
23:02
We haven't even touched Embryology.
23:04
Water as well. The fact that yes, every living
23:06
thing. Contains water, yeah.
23:08
You've got like the mountain and pegs as well.
23:11
Yes, yes. Yes.
23:12
Yes. Yes, yes, yes.
23:13
Fixtures on the. Yeah, yeah, all of these things
23:15
are amazing. Even the the when we talked
23:18
about Embryology, even this form of it uses the word alaka,
23:23
right? Speaking about the shape of like
23:25
basically like a Leech, right? And if you look at it like
23:28
microscopically a, like a sperm cell would, it's exactly the
23:33
same kind of shape. And they, and when they found it
23:35
out, there's a very famous video of the scientists saying that
23:38
the, the knowledge that the Quran has about this, like it
23:42
couldn't have existed. It's impossible for it to have
23:44
existed in the 7th century. It's impossible.
23:48
This is why I started off by mentioning, for example, you
23:51
know, the verse of the the 2C's mixing and you mentioned more
23:54
verses. And now you're speaking about
23:55
this because at the time, Marasol Allah, you know,
23:58
mentioned all of these. It didn't make sense for them,
24:00
right? So for them, the, the miracle of
24:01
the Quran was what the language, the linguist exactly.
24:04
But for us living here today, now and for all the future
24:07
generations to come. So when we go back and see the
24:10
Quran discuss this at a time where it was practically
24:13
impossible for anyone to come up with these things, this is the
24:16
Quran saying, you know what, I'm right.
24:18
Yeah, I'm produce, you know, in your.
24:19
Face I I don't want to say like that, but you say the Quran is
24:22
confident, 100% this is one, yeah.
24:24
For us, it's, it's like it's, it's proof in our directly in
24:27
our face. Like we know the Holy Prophet
24:29
Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi was, you know, all of these things.
24:35
OK, OK, OK. We like, we know these things.
24:37
However, it's just there, like it's black and white, obvious in
24:40
our face. The Holy Prophet Muhammad, peace
24:42
be upon him. His family was born and raised
24:44
in the desert. He lost his father.
24:46
He lost his mother at a young age.
24:48
He lost his grandfather at a young age.
24:50
Just explain to me how a man. Like the circumstances doesn't
24:53
match. No, how how would a no teacher
24:55
who no teacher, a man who many people say didn't know how to
24:59
read or write. I don't want to bring that up
25:00
against it, but like how many people say did not know how to
25:03
read and write and understand about the formation of the Seas
25:06
and and and a tectonic plates in the earth and all of these
25:09
things. Like it's just humanly
25:11
impossible. And what more does that say
25:12
about his characteristic that all of that knowledge in terms
25:16
of scientific knowledge will be imparted to the Holy Prophet
25:18
Mohammed, entrusted to the Holy Prophet Mohammed by a last part
25:22
I. Love yeah, 100%.
25:23
Person was he to like you see this?
25:24
Crazy 100% because you see all of these facts that are there in
25:27
the Quran. It's not that they were revealed
25:30
to him just as facts. Rasulullah is one of his main
25:33
characteristics and his main functions as the Rasul is to
25:36
explain the Quran. So it's not only that he knows
25:39
that this is the case, he knows how to explain it too.
25:43
He knows the depths and the, the, all of the meanings that
25:46
are kind of encapsulated in these verses.
25:48
So it's not a, it's not a joke. When you think back like
25:52
Rasulullah, the amount of knowledge that he would have had
25:55
and how much he'd have to hold back as well from the people
25:58
that were living there at the time.
25:59
Like this is day and vibes man. Yeah, exactly.
26:04
All of that. Exactly.
26:06
Exactly. So you said that there were four
26:07
things. Yeah, you said that there was
26:09
the linguistic, scientific, the prophecies and the eternal
26:12
relevance. Yeah, 1. 100 So let's go through
26:14
them. Let's go through.
26:15
Yeah, let's go through. We've done the scientific.
26:17
Yeah, we could say. Yeah, we could say that the
26:19
scientific is, is. I think that's.
26:21
So the linguistic 1, is it about Switzerland?
26:23
Cultural, yeah, there's. There's also some other verses I
26:26
wanted to read with with regards to the linguistic ones.
26:29
There's one very interesting verse that.
26:32
Can I just ask you, yeah, sorry, bro, there's going to be people
26:34
who are going to be like, yeah, but I could go on ChatGPT and
26:38
say please make me a verse which someone could believe.
26:40
It's in the Quran. People believe everything
26:43
nowadays. So when we talk about the
26:45
linguistic makeup on, are we talking about literally like the
26:51
grammar and it making literal sense?
26:54
Are we talking about everything linguistics like the whole of
26:57
the art? That's all of that, which I know
26:59
you love when we talk about behind the camera, like what?
27:02
All of the intricacies and the. Makeup of it, yeah.
27:05
So there's difference. There's, like I mentioned,
27:07
there's difference of opinion. So for example, someone like
27:10
Shekhar Tulsi, he used to believe that the miracle of the
27:12
Quran linguistically was in the Balara and in the Navam.
27:16
All right. So Balava is obviously like
27:18
eloquence, right? In the in, in, in it being so
27:22
short in, in a verse, but being able to convey the most meaning
27:26
and the most kind of rhetorical devices, the most eloquence as
27:30
well. So a lot of the scholars, well,
27:32
they used to say that you can't have both either.
27:35
You put all the rhetorical devices in and the sentence has
27:38
no real meaning. And there are examples at the
27:41
time of the prophet that of people that actually tried to
27:44
meet this challenge and you would see their poetry and it
27:46
still exists and it has no meaning.
27:49
It doesn't carry any deep, any depth, even though
27:52
linguistically it might be a great, you know, it might be
27:54
very eloquent linguistically, it doesn't carry the the meaning.
27:57
And if you want to try and write something with meaning, you
28:00
would not be able to encapsulate that many rhetorical devices.
28:03
But one thing that I wanted to speak about specifically is the
28:07
another here. Yeah.
28:08
So the another is like the sequence of the way that the,
28:11
the the the letters and the words are formulated.
28:14
Yeah. And this is something that I
28:15
picked up from 1 of the scholars he was mentioning.
28:18
Sorry, does not mean structure or my.
28:20
Yeah, another is like, yeah, structure and sequence, OK.
28:23
And and and the way that basically the formation of a of
28:27
a sentence. So this scholar he mentioned
28:30
right, that one of the so you have in the in the in the Arabic
28:33
language, you have the letters that are a bit like, you know,
28:36
tough, right. You have like iron, for example.
28:39
You have, you have Cough. Yeah, these letters.
28:41
My daughter struggles with these.
28:43
Yeah, 100 percent, 100. Percent and another one to be
28:45
honest, like one I still struggle with is actually a lot
28:49
right? It's very hard.
28:51
Like if we're non Arab specifically, it's very hard to
28:53
pick up these ones, even iron and and 1/2.
28:56
But if you were to try and get like, for example, somebody who
28:58
doesn't speak Arabic to say these, these letters, they
29:01
wouldn't be able to see say them.
29:02
Why? Because they're so hard and they
29:04
come from the throat. Now, when you have too many of
29:07
these letters, the ones that are like, you know, are tough in a
29:11
sentence, it makes the IT makes the sentence heavy and tough to
29:15
say on the tongue as well. Now this scholar that I was
29:18
listening to, he brought up this example of the of the letter
29:21
half. And he said in this short
29:23
sentence, there's 11 halfs, right?
29:27
But listen to the how the verse reads.
29:29
So we see Allah says in the in Switzerland the verse #27 after
29:33
the best mala he says what's true Alayhi nabh abne Adama bill
29:37
happy is karaba kurbanan for Taco Bella min ahadima.
29:48
Right. So in this verse, there are 11
29:50
paths, right? But the way that the words have
29:54
been formulated is that so that it's light on the tongue and the
29:58
the way that it's been done is by adding in many letters that
30:02
are only said with the lips. So you have the lamb, right?
30:06
Lamb, you only say meme bar exactly right.
30:08
These letters are, are, are soft and their light on the tongue.
30:13
So in the verses that have many paths, you'll see a lot of these
30:17
letters as well to balance out the, the kind of the heaviness
30:21
of the, of the sentence. Yes, right.
30:23
And there's other examples as well.
30:24
There's another example in Solat Al Imran as well.
30:28
Right verse #181 says Allahu Latina Palu in the next Harry,
30:42
right. This one also, I believe it has
30:44
10 paths as well. The same way many paths, many
30:47
lambs, many memes, right, to make it soft on the on the way
30:51
that it's being recited. So something like this and while
30:54
maintaining the high level of meaning and what is being put
30:57
across in the verses, that's something that is is very
31:01
difficult for any kind of writer.
31:03
While maintaining the level of rhetorical devices as well.
31:07
In those ones that he's using metaphors, he's using similes,
31:10
he's using like, you know, other hyperbole, right?
31:13
All of those things are being maintained while also
31:16
maintaining the novel of the sentence.
31:18
So this linguistic miracle, and like I said, Shaka Tulsi used to
31:22
believe that this was the linguistic miracle, that it was
31:25
humanly impossible for anybody to write something like this.
31:28
But now when you ask the question, ChatGPT, right, and
31:32
ChatGPT, to be honest, like contrary to popular belief,
31:35
isn't actually that good. Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't.
31:37
I wouldn't trust it to try and write something like the Quran.
31:41
But even if. Even if it even if it.
31:43
Tried. Right, even if it tried to and
31:45
even if we got all of the brains of the world together.
31:49
This is the belief that we have in Sarfa, right?
31:52
And many of our scholars used to believe in that Allah has made
31:55
it physically impossible that anytime someone tries to
31:58
challenge the Quran through its linguistics, through its through
32:01
its meaning, that they will not be able to because Allah is
32:04
holding them back. And that possibly is the reason
32:07
why there were many masters of the Arabic language, masters of
32:09
Arabic eloquence that were not able to do that, right.
32:12
So linguistically, these are like examples that exist.
32:16
Another thing in the Quran as well linguistically is the
32:19
precision right of the of the words used.
32:22
So, for example, we have Nebi Ibrahim mentioned in the Quran,
32:28
right? Nebi Ibrahim, his, his name is
32:30
spelt two ways in the Quran, right?
32:32
And this is a, a, a theory based a little bit on speculation, but
32:36
I thought I'd mention it anyway that it's mentioned that, for
32:40
example, in Surat al Baqarah, when you see Nebi Ibrahim's
32:42
name, it's there without Aya. And they would just put the long
32:47
Fatah basically on the on the heart in Ibrahim to make it
32:50
Ibrahim, right? And in other places it's
32:52
mentioned with the AAP right? Now, some of the academics, what
32:56
they've said is that in the Bible, for example, we see in
32:59
Genesis that Allah says to Ibrahim or God says to Ibrahim
33:03
that from this day, your name is no longer Abraham.
33:07
It is now Abraham, right? So there was a point in time at
33:12
which Nabilah Ibrahim was given a mission and a duty.
33:17
And from that time Allah changed his name.
33:19
So it's possible that this spelling kind of difference in
33:23
the Quran is reflective of the time that Nabilah Ibrahim had
33:28
yet to begin his mission and after he'd begun his mission.
33:30
So even things like that is so precise.
33:33
It's, it's, it's so like it doesn't, it doesn't, it makes
33:36
sure that it doesn't leave out any detail, right.
33:38
So, yeah, these these are like with linguistically, like there
33:41
are many other examples you can mention.
33:43
And of course, as we mentioned, sort of health or food
33:45
rhetorical devices. I don't think the viewers have
33:48
any time that the time to go through all of them.
33:51
Yeah. But you know, these are these
33:52
are documented facts and things that people can actually search
33:55
online to see more about the linguistic miracles of the
33:58
Quran. Solid points.
34:00
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
34:03
You know, sometimes, like, I think we genuinely take our
34:08
miracle right, which is the Quran for granted so much.
34:11
Yeah. You're knowing all of this,
34:13
having said all of what we're discussing here.
34:15
And I'm sure, you know, there's so much other things that people
34:17
can see online for themselves from many experts, from many
34:20
scholars in the field. And what are we doing?
34:23
Yeah. What about the Quran is and is
34:27
the crown and the jewel on our heads?
34:29
Like we, why don't we have to ask ourselves like, what are we
34:31
doing and when, when we live our day-to-day life here in the UK,
34:35
in London, right? We wake up, we sleep, we eat, we
34:38
repeat as the as the saying goes, we go to work, we go to
34:41
mosque and everything. But I don't think the Quran is
34:43
really part of our lives, Yani. The Quran is there for
34:47
everything and for a lost, it gives us direction down, you
34:52
know, uplifts us and things like this.
34:54
Yani All it takes, I think is reflection.
34:57
You know that they're saying of Rasulullah Muhammad Salallahu
35:00
Alayhi Wasalam, you know, an hour of reflection as equal to
35:04
70 years, 70 years of Ibadah, right?
35:08
And the Quran speaks so much about reflection.
35:11
And I think it even allows us, you know, if we truly reflect on
35:14
the Quran, we can navigate, you know, our day-to-day emotions as
35:18
well. Be it Sabor, be it anger, be it,
35:21
you know, happiness, all of this.
35:23
You know, I think the Quran can help us manage our emotions as
35:27
human beings. There's more than just miracles.
35:29
The Quran is everything. And when I come across verses
35:32
and I have a lot of favorite verses, right?
35:36
I've, I've written some down actually, I don't know if you
35:38
guys have any favorite verses you want to share as well.
35:40
One being is, and I think this goes to everyone, which is
35:44
indeed Allah with those who are patient.
35:45
And when I come across that and Allah right, it's like no matter
35:49
what difficulty you're in, no matter what hardship you're in,
35:52
no matter how low you've gone, God is there and God will take
35:56
you out of it. Just have belief in him.
35:59
Just rely on him, you know, and the other one like for example,
36:03
let's say we find ourselves lost in this dunya on this world.
36:07
You know the so I don't want them to just quote the verse.
36:09
I'm not correct me right It goes.
36:12
You know, those who are committing sins left, right and
36:14
centre and they want to truly repent and come back to Allah.
36:18
You know the verse of. So when?
36:30
We come to things like this, you know, even as Muslims, like even
36:33
if if we've try and rest against ourselves, you know, we've gone
36:37
far away from the halal of Allah.
36:39
We've entered the world of shaytan and Haram.
36:42
All it takes is pick up the Quran, read that verse and you
36:45
know, I can come back to God. And I don't know, maybe if we
36:49
can take that conversation this way in terms of how you not feel
36:52
on a personal level with the Quran, Like how does it help you
36:56
in the day-to-day life? I'm saying I'm saying this right
36:58
now, but that means to me, if I say it and whoever can
37:01
understand what I'm saying is that I only really open up the
37:04
Quran. I'm struggling in life and this
37:06
shouldn't really be the case, right?
37:08
I mean, the last time I read the Quran, if I'm honest, was I was
37:11
in a fat hair. I think just over a month ago
37:14
someone passed away up in the Quran.
37:16
I recited and we, you know, we said a few verses in there.
37:19
This shouldn't be the case. Don't pay yourself out.
37:21
No, it's fine. You're OK with that's?
37:23
Fine. Yeah.
37:23
Bro. What?
37:24
You think I read the Quran every day?
37:26
Who am I? I'm serious.
37:29
This is reality. This is reality and this is
37:32
something we all have to improve.
37:34
A lot of us turn to the Quran in darkness.
37:37
I said this is my point. I thought honestly.
37:39
Yeah, that's the point. Today, my point, it shouldn't be
37:41
the case. Yeah, no, as in like for
37:43
example, in times of celebration, in terms of
37:45
rejoicing and gratitude. And yeah, Quran explicitly talks
37:49
about how those who who turn to God and in terms of need will
37:53
turn their backs on. Don't get me wrong, when I say a
37:56
month ago I mean like we referenced the column here and
37:58
there, but when we truly pick it up and really reflect and
38:01
understand that should be like. I mean, the, The thing is like,
38:05
at least for me, the best. The Quran amplifies my, my other
38:10
actions, right? So, for example, when I do, when
38:13
I recite the Quran between my Salah, it elevates my Salah.
38:16
Do you know what I'm saying? At least I find that myself or
38:19
it elevates my, my, my level of patience or my, let's say, with
38:23
my wife, my, with my children, with my parents, with whatever
38:26
it might be. And I think even if we're not
38:30
reading the Quran actively, but for example, doing something
38:33
related to the Quran. So you're listening to tough
38:35
seal while you're driving the Quran and driving the Quran,
38:37
driving in the car and listen to something on the Quran or for
38:40
example you are. Doesn't, doesn't, just doesn't
38:43
just become like background noise.
38:45
No, I don't think so bro. You.
38:46
Don't talk about physically opening up.
38:48
There's. There's so many, you can't do
38:51
that. But Jolan doesn't exist.
38:53
I mean, that doesn't exist, right?
38:56
Yeah, I've heard. I've heard it all.
38:57
One second. No, but probably.
38:59
The only one that said it all. Maybe me and Mudge, Yeah, pretty
39:03
much. But bro, like for example, just
39:06
on what you said about like it being like a side kind of thing
39:10
or you're giving it half your attention.
39:11
Yeah, yeah, of course. But I still feel like that's not
39:14
a bad thing. There's so many stories and
39:19
lessons from a lot of the Olamal or Rafa who talk about like the
39:23
manifestation of of like goodness in your soul in your
39:27
nerfs. If you surround yourself with
39:29
it, for example, like I think I mentioned it before to you.
39:32
I think I may have on the podcast, a guy told Allah, what
39:36
should I do? He said do 3000 like Allah a
39:38
day, for example. And he goes, even if 10% of that
39:41
seeps into your heart, good, like it's better than nothing.
39:44
Do you know what I mean? And then the same way that just
39:46
surrounding yourself with the Quran and the the relationship
39:49
with the Quran, like in your good moods and your bad moods is
39:52
great. What was I going to say you?
39:55
You asked about my favorite verse.
39:57
My favorite verse is, I think probably for a lot of people,
40:01
sort of buckle our verse 155, which is top of your head.
40:08
Shame. And I know you like that as
40:11
well. It's it is like that.
40:14
I do like that. No.
40:17
But I mean, it's my favorite best.
40:18
Yeah. I mean, for me at least, it's
40:20
just like a the Quran is a standard for our life.
40:23
Do you know what I mean? There's, there's moments in your
40:25
life where you're feeling this or you're remembering that or
40:27
something like a behaviour you see in someone or you, you see
40:31
something happen in a community and it reminds you of a story in
40:34
the hood of Quran, reminds you at a time where Allah said
40:36
beware of this or this will happen.
40:39
Or, and it feels like Allah has written this book for you.
40:43
Allah has written a book for Ahmed in his life that he will
40:46
have moments where he needs to turn and he needs to understand
40:50
the the divine Hikma which is happening around him that you
40:54
know, he needs to hear someone tell him, but you need to watch
40:56
out mate. This is going on and you need
40:58
this guy. Do you know what I mean?
41:00
That's the beauty of the miracle of the.
41:01
World and I. Appreciate you.
41:02
Everyone's relationship with the Quran is independent and unique,
41:06
but very few of us. This relationship with the Quran
41:10
is. Strong.
41:11
I think what I was trying to say, Ahmed, was that we
41:13
shouldn't be limiting Quran to the holy month of Ramadan, which
41:18
we're all guilty of, right? Yeah, yeah.
41:20
Or when we go to some. Disservice.
41:21
It's a disservice. Yeah, it.
41:22
Should be more. I don't know, Muhammed, what do
41:24
you? Think to be honest.
41:26
I know you don't disagree, but. Yeah, no, I definitely don't
41:28
disagree. I'm sure you can give me
41:29
something I. Think no.
41:31
No, honestly. No, not at all.
41:33
I. Think honestly, I think there's
41:35
something that I would say that this is something that the Shia
41:39
community need to increase on a lot because because obviously
41:44
we're people that do listen to things and.
41:46
I get you. Just to repeat that one more
41:47
time in case someone was busy, you need to say someone.
41:51
In the back. Listen up, boys.
41:52
Yeah, what do the Shia community, we all need to become
41:56
more kind of connected to the Quran, listening to the Quran,
41:59
reading the Quran because we're people that we're in the in the
42:02
car. I'm sure that if you were to
42:04
pick up any random shitty kids that goes to Harlem, whatever,
42:09
he could recite at least one full luck meal for you by heart.
42:12
Yeah, yeah, maybe 10 even. Luck.
42:14
Meals by heart. Which is not a bad thing.
42:16
It's not a bad thing, 100%. Yeah, it's definitely not a bad
42:19
thing, 100%. They should be able to do that,
42:21
obviously. But they should also be
42:22
Mashallah. No?
42:23
He does as well. But Mashallah, he's got BK
42:26
tunes. Yeah.
42:29
So I think in that sense it's it's really important to have on
42:33
Quran because for me as well, and maybe my experience is a bit
42:37
is a bit skewed is a bit different.
42:38
But a lot of the time I'm like when I'm like researching about
42:42
the theology and religion. And things like that.
42:44
I can say that, yeah. I'm reading books, yeah, and
42:48
there will be a specific IR used as an argument or something.
42:51
As an evidence or. Something as an evidence or
42:53
something, but that's fine. So I'll know that IR by heart,
42:56
right? I'll know that IR, but I won't
42:57
know where in the Quran it is. So some times right, I'll be
43:00
like listening to a specific sort of like a random sort of
43:03
like sort of hedger. Which is what I'm doing.
43:05
I'm saying I'm paraphrasing. I should be knowing this.
43:07
If I'm saying something, I should back it, right?
43:09
Yeah, so like I'll be listening to a specific solar and then
43:13
I'll be hearing the eye. I'll be like, oh, that, that,
43:15
that I know that I like, you know, and I think everybody has
43:18
that kind of experience in their lives.
43:20
Like, you know, all the standard shit are verse, like verses that
43:23
everybody remembers, you know, in the Mawelia Kumulu, that one,
43:26
for example. Oh yeah, you like these kinds of
43:30
verses when you hear it in the Quran, you get kind of happy.
43:33
Like, you know, even I think in one of the Salawat, I I think
43:36
it's on the day of Ashurat, for example, Surat al Hazab, right?
43:39
You're reading it in the Salah and then you get to, you know,
43:41
in the and then you're like, yeah, I know this by heart,
43:44
right? So that kind of experience.
43:47
Yeah, exactly that kind of experience.
43:48
That happens to me a lot. And one of my favorite verses is
43:52
actually it's from sort of hedgel, right?
43:54
Sort of Hedgel Allah says we're in minche in Illa Indana Hazar
43:59
in who a man who Nazila who Illa Bakadar in Maloum.
44:02
And it's it's the same kind of understanding of comfort, right,
44:05
that you spoke about because I think the Quran acts as comfort
44:09
for a lot of us, right? He says that there is not a
44:12
thing except that we have its treasures.
44:15
Yeah, Illa Indana Hazar in who a man.
44:18
And we don't bring it down except by like a a preordained
44:24
Yani Kadar Maloum. Like I know, I know when to
44:27
bring things down and when to take things back and when to
44:29
hold things back. It's destined.
44:31
Don't worry, you know, And that comfort in that verse for me is,
44:34
is something and I like the way it sounds as well, you know,
44:37
like Yeah. And and and this is thing.
44:39
This is that Surah, one of the reasons why it's one of my
44:44
favorite verses. I've had it so many times
44:46
because the person who recites it, he's an amazing reciter,
44:50
right? Has I think his name was Hazar
44:51
Al Belushi, right? And he, he recites this Thisura
44:55
and he recites it in such a mesmerizing way.
44:58
Right now in the other communities of, of Muslims,
45:02
every kind of Muslims that is religious, they will have like a
45:05
top five Quran reciters list. Yeah.
45:09
If you ask Kashiri, who are your favorite Quran reciters?
45:13
Probably last week I was that I discovered it.
45:15
That's true, I discovered. I don't know, winning
45:17
competitions, but sorry, no, I was gonna say I'm aware of.
45:19
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What 100?
45:21
Percent. That's true.
45:22
Shut up. We are winning competitions.
45:24
Just load. Handler handler because the
45:26
Quran for art martial law for for a lot of our sites, it
45:29
doesn't get stuck in the throat and you know, you get you have a
45:32
lot of who is it? That was telling me the other
45:34
day, I can't remember where I was.
45:36
Someone was saying to me that a lot of like some guy told me
45:40
that he's met half of loads of half of the Quran in his life
45:44
where he's like, it doesn't, as with everyone, no one's perfect.
45:49
He's like, if the guy's memorized the Quran, he goes
45:51
like then he knows all the answers.
45:53
This is what the guy was telling me, right?
45:55
He's like, so why is this akhlaq?
45:57
Why is he being rude to me or calling me names?
45:59
I'm like, bro, this is how we are as human beings.
46:03
And it may not have had an effect on the guy who's maybe
46:05
not applied what he's learned. But anyway, you're talking about
46:07
reciters. Yeah, Brother of Turkey.
46:09
Have you heard Brother of Turkey?
46:10
Yeah, I have and. I heard his sort of hash order
46:13
last week and it's in direct but it just feels so pertinent.
46:17
They post this stuff on TikTok as well.
46:18
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's loads of these, like
46:21
these compilations of like, like different sceneries and all
46:24
their people and pictures. And that sort of specifically
46:27
feels like it's relevant to today.
46:29
And I think we mentioned it on episode Yeah, we mentioned it
46:34
bro, two weeks ago. The sort of hashal verse where
46:36
Allah talks about the fortresses that the enemies hide behind and
46:40
yada, yada, yada. And like that specifically feels
46:42
like it's a which is relevant now, like, you know, and how
46:47
Allah fortifies the ones who fight in his way and strive and
46:50
jihad in his way. Like there's it's just
46:53
beautiful. Mashallah.
46:54
There's so many, so many like adornments within the Holy Quran
46:57
that we just don't really take another.
46:59
Thing is also the science of the recitations of the Quran, like I
47:02
think with like, you know, different programs now we have
47:05
like shit our voice, for example, right?
47:07
And there'll be individuals that are reading the Quran and
47:09
there'll be questions that for example, say Jalal is asking and
47:11
everyone saying like I've never heard of that.
47:13
Yeah. I don't know where that my
47:14
heart. That's that's when is so good.
47:16
That's that's. Amazing.
47:17
But on top of that as well, there are still other things
47:20
about the sciences of recitation of the Quran.
47:21
So there are, there's a whole science of Qura art of the
47:24
Quran, right? There's 10 Qura arts of the
47:26
Quran. Many Muslims or many Shia as
47:29
well specifically don't actually know that there are 10 Qura arts
47:33
of the Quran, right? So for example, the Qura that we
47:35
read and the most famous one in the world is Hafsan Arsen, which
47:38
is what we read in in the Quran, right?
47:41
That we have like in our homes. There's also other Qura arts as
47:45
well. So there's like Wash and Nafit,
47:46
for example, Caliph and Hamza, Kalun and Nafir, all of these
47:51
different kind of ways of the Quran being recited in that you
47:56
know, like some of the words may be pronounced differently, some
47:59
of the letters may be pronounced differently and people don't
48:01
even know about it, right? Obviously with the caveat that
48:04
there is obviously difference of opinion amongst the budget,
48:06
whether you know all of them can be recited or not.
48:10
As far as I know, say Sistani allows you to recite any of the
48:13
seven Motawati ones in your Salah, whereas, for example,
48:16
someone like say the Shirazi, wouldn't he only allows to
48:20
recite, for example, have some awesome.
48:22
But yeah, so basically, you know, there is the difference of
48:25
opinion, but it's also important for this to be known because all
48:28
of these recitations reached us in the same kind of fashion, in
48:31
the same motto, water fashion. They were spread all across the
48:34
Islamic world. And for me specifically, the
48:37
rewire of Caliph and Hamza is one that I love, right?
48:41
It's, it's, it's very, you wouldn't have heard it, but I, I
48:44
really like it and it really helps me to actually listen to
48:47
the Quran because I like the way that it sounds.
48:50
And one of the reasons why I'm really interested in that one
48:52
specifically is because it was one that was recited in Iraq at
48:56
the time of the Imams. So some of the companions of
49:00
Imam Sadaq Anthrus, in fact, the the Hamza that is mentioned in
49:03
that Imam Hamza of the Karratha, it's said that he actually had
49:08
relations or he was he he was actually associated and
49:11
acquainted with the brother of Zurara, right.
49:14
So there's a lot of, you know, question marks there thinking,
49:18
you know what? Yeah, that might have been the
49:19
what they were reciting at the time, right.
49:21
And the way that it sounds is, is quite interesting as well.
49:24
You can tell that it's a different recitation of the.
49:27
So yeah, like that. That's something that I, I
49:29
really enjoy. And I would really recommend if
49:31
somebody, for example, is trying to, you know, be a bit like, you
49:35
know, different, for example, right, to listen to something
49:38
different and, and feel excited about it.
49:40
Maybe that's one way to get excited, or maybe that's just
49:42
me. But there's there's clearly like
49:44
different levels of things that people can do because obviously
49:46
looking at the art is not going to be something which like a
49:49
first time. I really know.
49:50
Yeah, that's true. So like, for example, everyone
49:52
at different stages will have different things that they would
49:54
benefit. I think for everyone, though,
49:56
unanimously across the board, whether you're a newcomer and a
49:58
first timer without a Quran or whether you've been studying on
50:01
Quran for years, the one thing which everyone can benefit is
50:05
just to sit and hold a Quran in your hand and read and a
50:08
physical copy. Like the Quran apps are amazing
50:11
and like they, they help us a lot And we pull it out here and
50:14
there and we'll like read this verse or like you're sitting on
50:16
a train and you'll pull it out and read.
50:17
But sitting on on, on a prayer mat and actually holding the
50:21
hood on in your hand, regardless of how learned or how new you
50:26
are to the Holy Quran, it has its benefit on everyone.
50:30
But then obviously, for example, for someone said for let's say
50:32
someone who's like, let's say a New River or they're researching
50:36
Islam, or maybe they've been born and raised Muslim, but they
50:38
haven't engaged with the Holy Quran.
50:40
Where would you advise them to start?
50:41
Like as a first starting point. A revert.
50:45
A revert someone new to the Quran, someone who's 18 years
50:48
old now. They want to get engaged with
50:50
the Quran. They want to build a
50:52
relationship. Maybe they'd know basic Alif
50:54
Bhatta, but they don't know where to begin.
50:57
How does someone develop or start that relationship of love
51:01
from now? How do they like you know, where
51:03
do they? If I can be honest, it can be
51:05
quite intimidating. If I can be honest, I think
51:08
that's. Very difficult for me to answer.
51:10
I wouldn't know how to tell, for example, someone who, let's say,
51:14
doesn't know the Arabic language.
51:15
No, no, I don't mean how to read AB CS, I mean someone who wants
51:21
to start a relationship with the Quran.
51:23
Yeah, Attention. Where'd you go?
51:26
Well, you have to make the near you look.
51:29
I think someone builds a relationship either look, when
51:32
we're young, right, many of us handle had the opportunity, for
51:36
example, to attend Quran classes or our parents will send us to
51:40
Quran circles in the mosque or things like this, right.
51:43
So we were like always exposed to the Quran.
51:48
Many people are not. And I think sometimes I I
51:51
believe this right. This is this is my belief that
51:54
you have to stumble across it and I think it's a lot that
51:57
takes you towards spinal. I, I generally don't think
52:01
anyone in this day and age, unless he's seen like all hell
52:04
break loose and he was an alternative.
52:06
Like why would someone walk towards a faith when the world
52:09
has given you a better alternative?
52:11
If we can say, you know, they tell you don't believe in the
52:14
afterlife, you know, don't believe in the hell fire.
52:17
There's no such thing as heaven and hell and things like this.
52:19
Like I think God brings you towards him.
52:22
Well, I don't have to answer your question that, but maybe we
52:24
have more than. I mean like people, for example,
52:26
who like they need something in life.
52:28
They want. I wouldn't know how to encourage
52:30
them. You'd have to be disciplined.
52:31
I wouldn't even say motivated. Discipline is more important.
52:34
Like if you really want. To know the relationship in like
52:37
how how someone was like OK, what's in it for me?
52:40
Reward. But it takes time for someone to
52:42
know that there is reward for this, right?
52:44
Yeah. Also, I think that the the
52:46
spiritual change because when you look at for example, like
52:50
this is might be kind of like steering a bit far.
52:53
But when you look at like, for example, psychological effects
52:55
on people from the music they listen to the lyrics that they
52:58
hear, right? A lot of the time you may be
53:01
able to link, for example, more violent music, right, and more
53:05
violent words with the increase of crime, for example, right.
53:11
Those they're, they're just songs written by normal human
53:13
beings. Yeah, right.
53:14
Those are words that are just being written by random people.
53:17
And, and most of the time they're very not intelligent
53:20
people as well, right? When you're looking at the Quran
53:24
and when you listen to the words of the Quran, if the words of a
53:28
normal individual that's not even intelligent is able to have
53:31
such a profound impact on someone's psychological mindset,
53:37
the Quran is even more like it's infinitely more able to have an
53:43
impact on the, on the individual that is listening to it, that is
53:46
reading it in, in their lives, in their efficiency, in their
53:49
discipline. And I think that is, is more
53:52
more the kind of incentive for for somebody in this life, as
53:56
well as obviously the reward that you would get in the
53:58
hereafter. But also if somebody was to read
54:01
the Quran, I feel like with the principles that are based on
54:07
him, Salaam taught, right? And this is something we've
54:09
spoken about on on Drama Nights, for example, the principles of
54:13
Tenzil and Tawin. Right, I enjoyed that these.
54:16
These principles, they I've once understood properly and I don't
54:21
claim to understand them properly, but even the little
54:24
that I have been able to access and understand, it makes you
54:28
feel like that verse is speaking to you directly in the time you
54:31
live. That level of guidance is, is
54:35
something that's personal with the Quran, right?
54:37
That's no longer now I've read this in that tafsir or I heard
54:42
this Molana say this on the member about this specific aya.
54:46
That is I read the Quran and it spoke to me right after you have
54:52
those principles and you have that it's like you mentioned
54:54
about sorts of hassle, right? When you read that verse and you
54:57
think about the events today, you're you're thinking this is
55:00
exactly what's going to happen. This is the promise of our last
55:03
panel to other and you see the relevance of it in today's age.
55:06
And I think that timelessness is the incentive.
55:09
Just to prove how like profound Quran is probably.
55:12
So I just did. What did you do?
55:14
I just opened up the head of Quran and just picked up picked
55:16
out a verse now which I thought might be relevant.
55:18
Go for ASR conversations for us on home sort of and Kabul to 1st
55:22
#43 these are the parables which we set forth for humanity, but
55:26
none of them will understand them except the people of
55:29
knowledge. And that tells us what that you
55:32
will not understand the parables and the the stories and the the
55:38
lessons are holy of Quran until you reflect and you, you, you,
55:42
you become one of those with knowledge.
55:45
I think that's probably like my core take away that's.
55:47
Where the idol Bates are so important.
55:49
Yeah, the bridge between US and the divine.
55:52
Genuinely like when we when, when I was mentioning about the
55:55
other communities and you know how we need to have more
55:57
connection with the Quran. We are more deserving of having
56:01
a connection with the Quran. We're in fact, I would like to
56:05
even go as far to say that we are the only people that can
56:07
have a connection with the Quran because we are the share.
56:10
Event intended and desired connection.
56:12
Yeah, 100% yeah. Yeah.
56:13
The intended connection that Allah wants us to have with the
56:16
Quran. We are the only people that have
56:18
access to that knowledge because we are the share of times.
56:21
So if not us, then who? If that makes sense, you know
56:26
it. It has to be something that is
56:28
is being focused on in our community specifically because
56:31
the Quran, more so than any other miracle, is an
56:34
opportunity. Yeah, there are there are
56:36
individuals from other religions that sometimes they mock us when
56:39
we say that the Quran is a miracle, is our miracle.
56:41
They'll say to us our our prophet split the sea.
56:44
Our prophet brought back this person to life.
56:47
Our prophet did this. Our prophet did that.
56:49
What did your prophet do? Bring a book.
56:51
What kind of miracle is that? But the the special like nature
56:55
of this miracle of the Quran is that these miracles that
56:59
happened for example, Nabil Wahi Mosa when he he, he split the
57:03
sea for example, right He split the sea for the individuals and
57:06
they saw it and they were able to witness that miracle.
57:09
The ones that were there in a specific geographical location
57:13
in a specific period of time. The Quran gives you the
57:17
opportunity to be able to witness miracle from the time of
57:21
Rasulullah until the day of Judgement.
57:24
Yeah. So if someone could come to you
57:25
and they could say, what kind of miracle is this?
57:27
You have to know Arabic to understand it.
57:29
It's giving you the opportunity to be able to witness the
57:31
miracle. Go and try and see Moses split
57:33
the sea. You're not going to be able to
57:35
see that no matter what you do. You're not going to be able to
57:37
see that. But the Quran's giving you the
57:39
opportunity. It's telling you I'm here and
57:41
this is my miracle, and you have the opportunity to understand my
57:45
miracle as well. So you know that that's how that
57:48
that the miracle of the Quran is so different to any of the
57:50
miracles of the other prophets because it gives you the
57:52
opportunity and it challenges until the day of judgement.
57:56
It says I'm not just around to challenge for, for now, yeah, to
57:59
be a Hodger for the people that are around the prophet, but I'm
58:03
a hodger for everybody until the day of judgement.
58:06
I challenge anybody to come and falsify me, and I challenge
58:09
anybody to come and find contradictions in me.
58:12
Yeah. If it was from other than Allah,
58:15
lewaje dufir du lafin kafira, they would have found in it many
58:18
contradictions. The Quran says that no, nobody,
58:21
even the ones that try to come with contradictions, all of them
58:24
have been refuted literally. Like there's no, there's no
58:28
match for the Quran. You know, let me, let me ask
58:31
Ahmed, you know, since since you're speaking about Shia and
58:34
you know, the relationship we need to have with the Quran
58:35
here, I always hear this phrase and it's thrown out.
58:39
I think, well, exclusively by non Shia is that the Shia have
58:43
nothing got to do with the Quran, right?
58:45
We're far away from the Quran and suddenly we, we have
58:48
distorted the Quran and things like this, right.
58:50
But the, the, the question I want to ask is how do we tell
58:53
them no, bro, we actually understood the Quran correctly.
58:56
Like how can we answer that? Because every school will claim,
58:59
for example, we know the full interpretation or we know that
59:03
we know we know the Tanzila, we know.
59:05
I'll just want to. Answer that I think, I think all
59:07
of that goes back to proving the willai of Ahil Bait aim Salaam
59:11
because that is where you see and and you don't have to go far
59:15
to prove it because the person that put the Quran and Ahil Bait
59:19
together was Rasulullah himself. And everybody agrees.
59:23
Everybody in every Muslim knows that, Al Asulullah said in
59:27
Nitara Kun Fu Kumafakalain. Not only the fact that he left
59:32
them behind, but also the fact that he paired them in these
59:36
thaka lane, heavy things, weighty things, important
59:39
things. He paired them together and then
59:41
he said ma into my sectum beat him up.
59:44
As long as you hold on to them together, you will never go
59:48
straight. Now at this point, it is, it's
59:51
clear from anybody that listens to that hadith that they're
59:55
together. If I want to understand the
59:57
Quran, I have to go towards the Ahil bait.
59:59
Now that is the point where you would ask any other community
1:00:03
which of the ahil bait did you take your tafir of the Quran
1:00:05
from? And that that is exactly what
1:00:09
you would hear. Silence.
1:00:11
None of the ahil bait they took their tafsir from.
1:00:13
Whereas if you look at our tafasir, our classical tafasir,
1:00:17
tafir of Kummi. IS is so based in Imam Masada's
1:00:20
narrations that people call it Tasira Sadak.
1:00:23
What do you? Imagine that.
1:00:25
Yeah, yeah. When you look at, for example,
1:00:27
Tasir ayashi, yeah, Tasira Burhan, tasira Safi, all of
1:00:31
these, literally the whole Quran, all mufasa by the albeit
1:00:36
Safira Hassan al Askari, for example, these tafasir, they're
1:00:40
just durations from the albeit explaining the Quran and albeit
1:00:44
themselves. They emphasize on the Quran so
1:00:46
much. They used to say, if any hadith
1:00:49
comes to you from us, compare it to the Quran.
1:00:52
The Quran is the origin. Yes, yes, yes.
1:00:55
So that's that's also a reminder for us though.
1:00:57
I think that that proves the legitimacy of the Azure based
1:01:00
100% the fact that they're saying that Quran is a litmus
1:01:02
test for them and their availability across across 11
1:01:07
generations. Or rather, I would.
1:01:08
I wouldn't say a litmus test for them.
1:01:10
I would say a litmus test for the words that are like.
1:01:13
When it comes to us, we're able to identify the words by its
1:01:17
symmetry. I said so, yeah, yeah, exactly.
1:01:19
Yeah. That's probably a more profound
1:01:21
way of of trying to make the point.
1:01:23
And I think that is, it's for us to be able to verify and, and
1:01:27
ascertain that these are the words of the representatives of
1:01:31
Allah upon Allah on earth, who are the descendants of the one
1:01:35
who revealed the holy of Quran or brought the revelation on
1:01:37
earth. And that these are the ones who
1:01:39
inherited the knowledge of the Quran and, and kind of, you
1:01:42
know, passed it on. They disseminated that knowledge
1:01:45
to us. And what, what are we truly if
1:01:48
we don't understand that through Quran and Hadith and we pair
1:01:53
them up side by side. And you know when you think like
1:01:56
when you say Behema and they're together and you're taking them
1:02:00
together, like I've always thought of it as like, yeah,
1:02:03
this is 1 and this is 1 and you got to take.
1:02:06
But it's kind of like, I don't think it's meant to be like
1:02:08
that. It's like, no, no, they are
1:02:09
together in one. Yeah.
1:02:11
I mean like they are. They are two parts of 1 answer.
1:02:14
Inseparable. Two halves, inseparable.
1:02:16
One. Yeah.
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Two sides of one coin. It's not.
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You're taking two separate coins and moving forth.
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If you're basically one coin, then you're half as rich.
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Now, it doesn't work like that. It's like you.
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This is the the answer. And the answer comprises of two
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things. One is this and one is this.
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And you have to have them together.
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Without that, we're lost. I mean, we're just like anyone
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else who is taking 1/2. And that might be the Quran, but
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abandoning another half. And that goes for like every
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element of our life. And like you said, the keyword
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here is the symmetry. Yeah, the symmetry and the proof
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in Al Qaeda which can be found in the Quran and the proof from
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the Quran which can be understood and explained through
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hadith, that verification process has got to be so
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flawless for us. When we like read hadith, we're
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like, yeah, but does not on verify that.
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And when we read something the Quran like here but do that
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little bit, expand on this. And you know, you know how
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shocked you'd be by some of the Hadith, how like direct, I'm not
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even joking. Like, you know, on face value,
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it may not even it may not seem that it is in in line, I mean,
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or exactly like the Quran. But when you like look at the
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words, it's like woven in the Quran.
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Like both are speaking and their and their sayings are woven in
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the Quran, like the same kind of linguistic use, the same kind of
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concepts. And when you read it, you're
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like, this is this is that verse.
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This is literally and he didn't mention it.
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He didn't say that this is that verse, but you will see it woven
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and and yeah. And just going back, even like
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when when I mentioned here that we are the only people that can
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access this, this is something that Rasulullah said.
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We believe in the full sermon of Ghadir.
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Rasulullah when he Ghadir, the whole point of Ghadir was that
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this individual I leave in Abib is going to be the one to
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explain it all to you. He's going to be able to he's
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going to be able to explain the Quran to you after me, right.
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So he even says in his in his Hutbah, he says that
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Maharashtra, right. He says all people follow the
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Quran, follow its clear verses and don't follow its unclear
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verses. Yeah.
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And then he said that like no one is going to be able to give
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you a steff seal except for the individual whose hand I take and
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I raise it with my. And then he says after the long
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kind of hutbah, he says at the end of it, this is Rasulullah
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passing on that responsibility of you, Ali mohmul kitabu al
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hekma. He says ini adbayentu la combo
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for ham to come. However, Ali Oni Fahim will come
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back. He says, I've done my bit, I've
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explained to you, I've given you understanding after me, Ali's
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going to give you understanding that that is the purpose of
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Ghadir. The whole purpose of Ghadir is
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not that we sit and we say, oh, Imam Ali was the Khalifa.
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Imam Ali should have been the Khalifa instead of this
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individual. The point is that this is the
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knowledge of Ali bin Abit Talib. This is the teachings of Ali bin
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Abit Talib. These are this is the
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characteristics of Ali bin Abit Talib that can't be matched by
1:05:22
anybody else, and that those characteristics should be what
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we excel in and what our community should be the highest
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in. In the you should be know said
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this so optimizing and he's a Salawat.
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I love those points. So that's the intro, now we're
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going to move on to the main conversation.
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Smashed it bro. Thank you so much, I loved it.
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It's been a deep, deep, deep. We're going to miss, we're going
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to miss Muhammad Ali on on our Friday evening.
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Prophecies and so many more things to go through, but.
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Scratching the stuff for. The next year.
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Sharla. We definitely need the Part 2 or
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some stage in the coming weeks. I think it's.
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A good idea, Sharla. Man, hold on.
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You know what? You can never get it, can I?
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Just say yeah. And, and I just sorry, brother.
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Very, very, very, very, very last thing I'm gonna add.
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Yeah, at a time like now where everyone in the world is like
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really generally waking up on the wrong side of the bed.
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It feels like on a daily basis, we open our phone and we see
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something and it brings us down. We see the atrocities and
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Palestine and Lebanon and around the world at a time like now.
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That's why we need the Quran the most, honestly speaking.
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So for us to understand divine wisdom and justice of Lahama,
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for us to understand our place in this world, for us to
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understand how to move forward in the day, how to understand
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what's behind us in history and how to learn from it and what
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what is to come in the future, what is promised in the Quran
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and how to understand and grasp it and move towards work towards
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it. Like that's what answers are
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they? I mean, like it's there for us.
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And, you know, we Muslims now are feeling more spiritual than
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they were a year ago or a year and a half ago, let's say, but
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more confused in some regards. Like, what do I do now?
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Responsibility feels greater now on me.
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You know, we asked that question a couple weeks ago on the ball.
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We're like, yeah. Do you feel more religious than
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you did, like, October the 6th last year?
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People like, yeah, more religious, yeah.
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But are you more prepared for the imam?
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And 50% said, no, I'm feeling less prepared.
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So, you know, there we go. Like the Quran is there's an
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answer. It's not just, like reading, you
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know, those ones who's like, oh, yeah.
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But you have to know more about the imam only like, what's the
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imams I mentioned to you? The other.
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Yeah. What's the imam's favorite food,
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do you know, or not? But what's that gonna do?
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That's not gonna get you into three on three.
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Relax. Like.
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People are baffled. Man, like Allah's gonna like
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Allah sent this to us. That and mom's going to come and
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he's going to be like, have you not understood the Quran?
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It was, it was like when we had a mummy, he said, ask me, ask me
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before you lose me. And you know, the questions were
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like, how much hair is on my head then feels like this,
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right. I know I honestly, I think I
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echo everything that you said and it's important.
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And I think it's a reflection for myself.
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It's relevant now and extremely relevant, you know, given what
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we see happening around the world.
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And you know, you haven't. I just want to mention as a
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final point for me as well As for example, you referenced
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quite a bit, I think halfway towards the end in the
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second-half of the conversation, you referenced like being Shia,
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like it's the Quran's a point to us and you know, after mushroom
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we are Shia Muslim podcast. Yeah.
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Majority of our audience are from the school of the Halil
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Beta Alayhm Salaam as 3 sitting here and Charlotte away from the
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Shia valley. Ali has Salaam.
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And what are we without the Quran?
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You know, when you mentioned when you mentioned the point of
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FAQ Alain, we take that so lightly, but we need to always
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remind ourselves that as well. Allah, they didn't just say a
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little bait. He said Quran and a little bait,
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right? And we always hear the, the the
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hadith from the pulpits. You know, Ali om al Haqq and Ali
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is with the Quran and the Quran is with the Ali.
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What does that mean? That means there's.
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A whole nother lecture bro final.
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Point. What does that mean?
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My point on now bro myself a lot of discussion.
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Not because in his final point he mentioned that cemetery.
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And that's very important that they go.
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Symmetry. Yeah, symmetry.
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Symmetry. Sorry that they go hand in hand.
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Forgive this. Symmetry.
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But my point is if you're Shia, there's, if you want to say you
1:09:19
are from the Shia, there's terms and conditions, whatever the
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main, what is the Quran, Sahi Yani, If we say, you know, we
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hold on to the Ellen baits, we commemorate them every year.
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We remember them every year. We remember their tragic
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martyrdom, their life lessons, but we neglect to remember what
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that they lived by, preached by and died by the Quran.
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Batman, Zahra Ali Salaam, some of us in the next few weeks will
1:09:43
be commemorating her martyrdom. You know, after the horrific
1:09:46
attack on her house, they bought the home, they broke her ribs.
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What did she do in the final moments of her life?
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She was reciting the Quran she told Emir and what we need to
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recite Quran at her grave, right?
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This, this is something I think we all need to picture and
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remember as Shia. Like if we want to be Muslims,
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no problem, everyone can be Muslim.
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There's no Shia who are Muslim mean as well.
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But there's a difference of being Mummanian and if we are
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from the Shiav Emir and Mummanian, that means we have to
1:10:13
be more minion in my opinion. I speak to myself and that's my
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final point. Very good reminder, Mark.
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Just a quick one as well. Obviously you mentioned.
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You just go up the pulpit. Yeah, this is you just going up
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the pulpit. Yeah, Habib.
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Yeah, just a quick point to mention, like you mentioned, of
1:10:33
course, with people being more prepared for kind of the end of
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times and, and things like that, I think, yeah, the the whole and
1:10:42
things like that. I think there's a lot of
1:10:44
individuals and myself included that, you know, it's these kinds
1:10:48
of times that we feel more encouraged to like, you know,
1:10:52
find out about the whole, read about the whole, understand the
1:10:54
narrations about the whole and you see it happening.
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Like sometimes I'm on the YouTube analytics for after
1:11:00
Maghrib and I'll go to the Jammar Nights podcast, right?
1:11:04
And I'll see what's being watched right now.
1:11:06
And anytime there's a major event in world affairs, I'll see
1:11:09
the views popping up on three signs of Imam Mahdi, right?
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People are people are actually looking to see what is it.
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That's what's happening in the in the world right now.
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What is the Quran? What did the narration say?
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So this is an opportunity for everybody to get more acquainted
1:11:25
and also not only to just watch it for the sake of being able to
1:11:30
say, you know, we're approaching, you know, Afro
1:11:32
Zaman, you know, we're in the end of time.
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Because I feel like that's something that's gone on like
1:11:36
throughout the generations, you know, like, you know, you always
1:11:38
have those old people coming to you and telling, you know, where
1:11:40
afterwards. The man.
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Like they've been saying it for years, right?
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Yeah, but it's. Not every generation feels.
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Yeah, exactly, Exactly. But the the point is that it's
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not only that, that it's not just a conversation to have with
1:11:55
people and say, oh, we're approaching the end of times.
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It's actually a warning. And it's one of the principles
1:12:01
of Ahil Bait, which is Ayudhala Amani, Yeah, which is that they
1:12:05
always want their shit to feel like they're under pressure,
1:12:08
like they have to do something, right.
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And every kind of period of time, we'll have signs of the
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whole. Yes, right.
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So even if we're not in that time, the point is that we're
1:12:18
supposed to actually take these kind of events in our life and
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take and make meaning from them, actually take action on them.
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So that's that is something that we can.
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Tell us all the signs that we didn't.
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That's another episode, no? Three episodes, yeah, we had
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three episodes about the whole and we had three episodes about
1:12:36
Marafa as well. So those those are the what to
1:12:38
go back to the. Pretext of the whole the fake
1:12:42
scholars the size of Mahdi in Palestine that was those were 3
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EPS. Yeah, so the three episodes were
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actually what how actions re affect the reappearance.
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Yeah, Yeah, that's the first one and that's the.
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We'll add them in the description of the.
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Understand Mahdi 1. The Palestine in Mahdi one, but
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it also includes the signs of the Amani, the Polasani, the all
1:13:03
of that. And those are actually the the
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Hasmi signs. Yeah.
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And then you have obviously the fake scholars and things like
1:13:09
that leading up to basically that and the fit and basically
1:13:13
in general all of the things that can distract you from the
1:13:15
mission of the amount of time. So these are very good episodes
1:13:17
to watch. So they are all.
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Good. So you can go back and listen to
1:13:20
them. Sent them, sent them a sense.
1:13:22
All right guys, thank you very much.
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I hope you've enjoyed it as much as we have Smashed the subscribe
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button, I said. Ali said.
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And stay tuned, we'll be back next week and show Allah for
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will see you then. Beautiful.