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- 0:00A few years ago, an aquarium in South Africa asked its visitors
- 0:03a pretty simple question: Can you name one marine protected area?
- 0:07And these were people who had spent their day off looking at
- 0:10fish, as you do in an aquarium.
- 0:12And a lot of them came up blank.
- 0:13They just couldn't name that MPA.
- 0:15But some of them named the aquarium.
- 0:17And that blank space is one of the biggest threats that MPAs face.
- 0:20And we're gonna talk about why that is on this episode of the
- 0:23How to Protect the Ocean podcast.
- 0:25And I wanna ask you a question.
- 0:26Name one marine protected area in your country.
- 0:29Go.
- 0:30Go ahead.
- 0:31I'll wait Nothing?
- 0:33That's okay.
- 0:33You're in good company.
- 0:35Most people can't name a single MPA.
- 0:37And a place that nobody can name is a place that nobody notices when
- 0:40these MPAs get weakened, shrunk, or even quietly opened back up.
- 0:44And by the end of this episode, you'll be able to name at least one,
- 0:48and you'll know why that matters to you personally, and you'll have a
- 0:51five-minute task that changes how you look at your own coastline.
- 0:56Hey, everybody.
- 0:56Welcome back to the How to Protect the Ocean podcast.
- 0:58I'm your host, Andrew Lewin, marine biologist and science communicator,
- 1:01here to talk about all ocean news, ocean science, and ocean conservation.
- 1:05And this week, we're gonna be talking about how we communicate the ocean,
- 1:08and why some of the most important tools in conservation are the
- 1:12ones people know the least about.
- 1:15So let's start with why you can't name an MPA, because it's not your fault.
- 1:19On land, protected areas have gates.
- 1:21You can go visit them.
- 1:23They have signs, parking lots, gift shops, postcards.
- 1:26You can picture, like, Banff or Yellowstone or Kruger National
- 1:30Park because you've seen photos of them and you know of them,
- 1:33you've known about them your whole life.
- 1:35And you know there's a line, like, an actual boundary, 'cause you know you've
- 1:38actually crossed it or not, you have this physical picture in your mind.
- 1:44Now, in the ocean, there's no gate.
- 1:46The boundary's a set of coordinates, so
- 1:47It's just an imaginary line.
- 1:49And you can float right over on a paddleboard and never
- 1:52know that you're in it.
- 1:53And when conservation people talk about them, like myself, we use
- 1:57words like representative network and biodiversity connectivity.
- 2:00These are all the different terms and they're accurate, but they also make
- 2:05people's eyes just kinda glaze over, 'cause it's a lot of jargon for them.
- 2:09And it's all jargon for you, I imagine.
- 2:11I can't even imagine that, Like, now compare that to an orca or a humpback or
- 2:14a great white, and then you can put a face on those 'cause you know what they are.
- 2:18But an MPA is harder.
- 2:19A marine protected area is harder.
- 2:20It's a place, And we've done a bad job introducing people to that place.
- 2:25And I'll own that.
- 2:26As a marine biologist, like, I get it.
- 2:28I've spent more than 15 years communicating ocean science, and I
- 2:30had to stop and think when I asked myself to name MPAs in my own country.
- 2:35So, like, the thing is, is like how deep does all this go?
- 2:38Like, the best example I found comes from an aquarium in South Africa, And
- 2:41it surprised even the people who work there Now picture a public aquarium
- 2:46on the coast of Durban, South Africa.
- 2:47Sharks circling in huge tanks.
- 2:49We get rays gliding past the glass, kids pressing their faces against it,
- 2:54and just loving what they're seeing.
- 2:55And the team there wanted to know one thing.
- 2:58Their visitors clearly like the ocean.
- 3:00They always saw the sharks, and they saw the fish and everything.
- 3:03They paid money and given up their day to come see all the different exhibits.
- 3:08But how much of these visitors know about the places that protect the
- 3:12ocean, like the marine protected areas?
- 3:14So they started asking people, "What do you think about marine protected areas?
- 3:17Do you support them?" And then the simplest question
- 3:19of all, "Can you name one?"
- 3:21And most people couldn't do it, and some people who did give
- 3:24an answer like an aquarium.
- 3:27That's the protected area.
- 3:28That's what they think are protected.
- 3:30Now think about that for a second, They thought the aquarium
- 3:33was the marine protected area.
- 3:34And that's not like to say that they don't know what they're talking about or
- 3:38they're not smart or anything like that.
- 3:40This is just what people think.
- 3:42And it's good thing to know.
- 3:44And honestly, like when you think about it, it makes sense.
- 3:46For a lot of visitors, the aquarium was the one place they'd ever
- 3:50seen ocean life being protected.
- 3:52You have big walls, clean water, people looking at the animals, And to be honest,
- 3:56that's what protection looks like to them.
- 3:58So I get it.
- 3:59And what's interesting too is, like, the same team that heard kids walk
- 4:02up to the main tank and ask where the switch was to change the channel,
- 4:06they thought it was a giant TV.
- 4:07Other visitors want to know how the staff had stopped the waves.
- 4:10That aquarium learned something every communicator needs to hear,
- 4:14that people you're talking to are seeing the world through completely
- 4:16different glasses than you are.
- 4:19And if you start the, "Support our new representative MPA network," you've lost
- 4:23them already, even before you started.
- 4:26So if you came up blank with the naming of the MPA, you're standing exactly
- 4:30where most people stand, and this is why.
- 4:32So when a public doesn't know a place exists, like an MPA, like the
- 4:35decisions about that place happen in rooms like the public never sees.
- 4:39It usually happens in like workshops where you're in a hotel conference
- 4:42room, or you're in a room anywhere.
- 4:44Like you're in a government building, wherever you are.
- 4:45Industries that want access to the area show up to every single meeting.
- 4:49They know where to go.
- 4:50The fish, the corals, and the people who depend on them mostly don't.
- 4:54they're not there for that kind of information session.
- 4:57So South Africa lived through this
- 4:59And how they got out of it is the reason I can tell you this story with a happy
- 5:03ending Back in 2004, South Africa ran a national check on its biodiversity.
- 5:08It found out that the country's offshore ecosystem were the least
- 5:11protected of anything that they had ever had on land or at sea.
- 5:14So scientists got to work.
- 5:16They said, "All right, we're gonna figure this out." Starting in 2006,
- 5:19researchers at the South African National Biodiversity Institute spent
- 5:22years mapping where new protected areas should go, which canyons, which reefs,
- 5:27which nursery grounds mattered the most.
- 5:30Then came the consultations, years of them.
- 5:33That always takes the longest, Commercial fishing, oil and gas exploration,
- 5:36mining, tourism, coastal communities, everyone with a stake got a seat.
- 5:41And in 2014, the government finally backed the plan.
- 5:44in October 2018, cabinet approved a network of 20 new
- 5:48MPAs, and then they waited.
- 5:51The plan sat on a desk while the competing interests just kept talking.
- 5:54And at a point, South Africa protected 0.4% of the ocean around
- 5:58its mainland, less than half of 1%.
- 6:00On May 24th, 2019, the wait was over.
- 6:03All 20 were officially declared, and protection jumped from 0.4% to
- 6:085.4% of South Africa's ocean area.
- 6:11That network gives at least some protection to 90% of the
- 6:14country's marine habitat types.
- 6:16That means there are, whatever you see around the coastline, 90% of it
- 6:21fit within those reefs, So you have a proportion, a representation of
- 6:26what is on the coast of South Africa.
- 6:29Now, the people who fought for those 20 places realized something during
- 6:32the long wait, that scientists had done the work, the consultations were done,
- 6:36but what was missing was the public.
- 6:38Hardly anyone outside the conservation world knew about these places.
- 6:41And which meant, like, hardly anyone was making noise for them.
- 6:45And this is not new.
- 6:46This is happening all over the world.
- 6:48So they decided to change that in South Africa.
- 6:51And what they were able to do in South Africa can actually be used other
- 6:55places, including where you're living.
- 6:57The first move was a name change, at least in spirit.
- 7:01South Africans grew up with game reserves, so everyone knows what a game reserve is.
- 7:05So communicators started calling MPAs nature reserves of the sea.
- 7:09So you take something people already understand and walk them
- 7:12one step over to something new.
- 7:14The second move was even bigger.
- 7:16For years, MPAs have been sold on what they do for nature, biodiversity,
- 7:20habitats, climate resilience.
- 7:22All that is true.
- 7:23They still do that.
- 7:24But in a country facing serious economic challenges, nobody had clearly
- 7:28explained what MPAs do for the people.
- 7:30So more fish spilling over into fishing grounds, tourism jobs, coastlines
- 7:35that hold up better in storms.
- 7:37Once you say all that out loud to the people, the MPA becomes
- 7:41something that's on your side.
- 7:43And I think this is something we do as communicators all the time in science.
- 7:46We think about the science.
- 7:47The science is the hero.
- 7:48The science is not the hero.
- 7:50The protection is not the hero.
- 7:51The people are the hero.
- 7:53So how are they going to connect with this MPA if it doesn't relate to them?
- 7:59The people are the hero.
- 8:00You want them to connect, you have to make it important to them.
- 8:04And there was one tick that worked better than almost anything else.
- 8:07When the aquarium built an exhibit about the new MPAs, the piece the visitors
- 8:11connected most was a simple map.
- 8:13Coastal towns with the protected areas marked was right beside them.
- 8:17People would walk up.
- 8:19So they had coastal towns with the protected areas marked right beside them.
- 8:23So people would walk up, find their town, and say, "Hey, that one's near me. That's
- 8:26kinda cool." That's the whole game.
- 8:28Make it near me.
- 8:30Make it near the hero of the story.
- 8:33And that idea of Near Me grew into something much bigger than one
- 8:37exhibit, and it all started with a phone call to a handful of friends.
- 8:40We all know there's a day for everything, right?
- 8:42So Ocean Day, Rhino Day, Zebra Day.
- 8:45And somebody at the aquarium looked up at the crowded calendar and thought, "Why not
- 8:48have a day for marine protected areas?"
- 8:50So she called six to eight friends and said, "Let's do MPA Day." Every
- 8:55one of them asked the same thing, "What's MPA Day?" And her answer was
- 8:59basically, "I'm not totally sure yet.
- 9:01Let's figure that out together." So they pulled together, like, two digital
- 9:05agencies, a traditional communications company, a few conservation groups, and
- 9:09the Two Oceans Aquarium in Cape Town.
- 9:11They picked August 1st as the day.
- 9:13So the first MPA Day happened in 2021, August 1st, 2021, in
- 9:17the middle of the lockdown.
- 9:18So it was a virtual tour, not exactly a, a perfect dream launch.
- 9:23Then it started to spread.
- 9:23In 2024, Mission Blue, Sylvia Earle's organization, brought its
- 9:27network of hope spots on the board.
- 9:29And the European project called the Protect Baltic, they also joined.
- 9:33MPA Day went global.
- 9:35By 2025, more than 80 events were planned across 25 countries with 92 partners.
- 9:40More than 100 activities actually happened.
- 9:43And in 2026, it was bigger again, and it's now officially endorsed as the
- 9:47United Nations Ocean Decade activity.
- 9:50So individuals, schools, small community groups, big NGOs, MPA
- 9:54managers hosting celebrations inside their own protected areas, governments,
- 9:59even businesses, all from a day that, at the start, nobody could really
- 10:03explain what it was gonna be about.
- 10:05Let me practice what I'm preaching and name a marine protected area for you.
- 10:09Off the coast of Nova Scotia, about 200 kilometers out near Sable Island,
- 10:13there's a place called The Gully.
- 10:15It's an enormous underwater canyon,
- 10:16one of the largest on the East Coast of North America, and Canada made
- 10:19it a marine protected area in 2004.
- 10:21And in fact, I was actually out in Nova Scotia in 2004, so it's got a little
- 10:26bit of a personal fix to me, and I remember when it was actually designated.
- 10:30It's home to northern bottlenose whales, deep-diving whales that can stay down
- 10:34for over an hour, plus cold water corals that can live for centuries.
- 10:39Notice what just happened.
- 10:40Like, you got a giant canyon and whales that hold their breath for
- 10:43over an hour, and that's how policy becomes a place you can picture.
- 10:47So here's what I want you to do this week.
- 10:49Find the marine protected area that's closest to where you live, and
- 10:52learn one species that lives in it.
- 10:53And that's it.
- 10:54If you're in Canada, Fisheries and Oceans Canada has a map
- 10:57of marine protected areas.
- 10:58In the US, NOAA keeps an MPA inventory.
- 11:00Now, anywhere around the world, go to protectedplanet.net
- 11:04and zoom in on the coastline.
- 11:06And if you live inland, pick the closest coast and use that one when
- 11:09you visit on your next vacation.
- 11:11Then tell me what you found.
- 11:12Drop it in Spotify comments or send me a DM on Instagram,
- 11:15LinkedIn, or wherever you hang out.
- 11:17I want to build a list of these places named by you.
- 11:19I want this to be like a fun community thing that we do as a podcast community,
- 11:25This is what we're all supposed to do.
- 11:26I start the conversation, you continue it.
- 11:28So I'd love to hear what the nearest MPA is towards you.
- 11:33I just think a lot of times when we, learn about MPAs or we hear about MPAs, it's
- 11:37just a fictional thing that's happened.
- 11:39But it's, actual real place.
- 11:41Fake boundaries, like invisible boundaries, but it's a real place, and
- 11:44it's great that we get to know what's in there and what's being protected.
- 11:48Because not a lot of people will know about this, and we hear marine protected
- 11:51area and nobody has that connection to it.
- 11:54And I think it's important to know what's in there so that we can have that
- 11:57connection and we care more about it.
- 12:00When I watched that movie Ocean, that was narrated by Sir David
- 12:03Attenborough, it was a fantastic movie.
- 12:05When they showed all the productivity in the UK waters on the ground,
- 12:09all that purple, and there's like little anemones and everything.
- 12:12It was just full of productivity, it was full of life.
- 12:14And that people, like, got into it.
- 12:15They're like, "Whoa, I never knew this happened." And then they had the trawl
- 12:18come through and take it all out.
- 12:21And you just sat there like, "Oh my Lord, how did this happen? How
- 12:26did we let this happen?" And there was like, it felt like a chunk was
- 12:28taken out of my heart, to be honest.
- 12:30I know that sounds dramatic, but it did.
- 12:32But we cared about it.
- 12:33It doesn't take long.
- 12:34That was maybe a five-minute segment to get people interested and to
- 12:38care about what's in the bottom of the ocean, because it's the wonder,
- 12:41it's the awe, it's the mystery.
- 12:42And then when you find it, you're like, "Whoa, this is really cool stuff."
- 12:46Same thing with the deep sea, same thing with every part of the ocean.
- 12:49There's some really cool things in there that we can really
- 12:52understand and fall in love with.
- 12:53And until you find out what's there, you're not gonna remember
- 12:56the MPAs that you want to name.
- 12:58You're really not.
- 12:59And so I think it's important that we start to name them
- 13:02and understand what is inside.
- 13:04Now, that's the episode for today, but tomorrow we're gonna look at what these
- 13:07places actually do when things go wrong.
- 13:10So a reef in the middle of the Pacific bleached white for more than six months.
- 13:13And what came back from that surprised scientists who watched it happen.
- 13:18So you don't wanna miss tomorrow's episode.
- 13:19Hit that follow button on your favorite podcast app.
- 13:22And I wanna thank you so much for joining me on today's episode of the
- 13:25How to Protect the Ocean podcast.
- 13:26I'm your host, Andrew Lewin.
- 13:27Have a great day.
- 13:28We'll talk to you next time, and happy conservation.