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- 0:23what is going on everybody
- 0:25welcome to the class zone
- 0:26media roundtable where
- 0:29there's already comments in
- 0:30the comment section we
- 0:31haven't even got started
- 0:33what's up not much what's
- 0:35up with you guys well hey
- 0:37let me give you guys a
- 0:37heads up so um it's parent
- 0:41teacher conference week for
- 0:42me so I've been busy prepping
- 0:47Talking to parents about their kids.
- 0:48Love that.
- 0:50But I might have to bow to
- 0:51here a little bit early
- 0:52because got one scheduled coming up.
- 0:56Not a problem.
- 0:57We totally understand.
- 0:58Snake Cat's on vacation.
- 1:00So it's the three of us.
- 1:02Charlie, what's going on with you?
- 1:04I'm here.
- 1:06All day.
- 1:06Every day.
- 1:07He's the people's champ.
- 1:09People's champ.
- 1:12So there's even a Facebook
- 1:14or Instagram post with the
- 1:16champ this week.
- 1:17Yep.
- 1:18It's about time.
- 1:19Getting some notoriety.
- 1:21It's weird he put it out this month.
- 1:22It's kind of a big deal.
- 1:24That's President Cohen.
- 1:28Biden needs some help.
- 1:31Yeah.
- 1:35He's calling people champs.
- 1:38Speaking of, a Charlie moment here.
- 1:40Okay.
- 1:41The Rock.
- 1:43Yes.
- 1:43Back in WWE.
- 1:46Yes.
- 1:47On the board of directors.
- 1:48Taking spots from people.
- 1:51Taking spots at WrestleMania from people.
- 1:54And now owns the name The
- 1:56Rock for the first time in his life.
- 2:01Which is surprising.
- 2:02I thought that was a couple years ago.
- 2:06I just read a story two days
- 2:08ago because he became on
- 2:10the board of directors.
- 2:11That was part of his
- 2:13negotiation to be on the board.
- 2:17So I was just gonna say they,
- 2:22some people in the WWE
- 2:24can't really get in legal
- 2:27battles at this point since
- 2:28they got other things happening.
- 2:31Yeah.
- 2:33Give him what he wants.
- 2:34I got, I'm busy.
- 2:35Yeah.
- 2:36I got other things to worry
- 2:38about right now.
- 2:38Okay.
- 2:41Uh, the rock.
- 2:43We talked about this, I think,
- 2:44in class the other day, Charlie,
- 2:45but let's bring it on here.
- 2:47Natty or not?
- 2:49Oh, not.
- 2:53Nobody cares.
- 2:54I know.
- 2:55I said something like,
- 2:56joking when I was coaching, I was like,
- 2:58you think he's on TRT?
- 2:59And they're like,
- 2:59I think he's on a lot more than just TRT.
- 3:02He said no.
- 3:04He says no.
- 3:06Whatever.
- 3:08Yeah.
- 3:09Everybody in the WWE is on something.
- 3:13Bob Backlund wasn't.
- 3:17Yeah.
- 3:17He came out the stands.
- 3:19He was going to choke people.
- 3:23I mean,
- 3:23I think even McAfee's admitted that
- 3:26when he performs,
- 3:26he does a little something, something.
- 3:29Oh, yeah, he does.
- 3:31He says he's not.
- 3:33He wouldn't pass the test today.
- 3:36Yeah.
- 3:37All right.
- 3:38Well, we're not a WWE show.
- 3:41We can't be.
- 3:42no we're not um charlie yeah
- 3:47you worked out today I know
- 3:50because I was coached um I
- 3:53i was an independent woman
- 3:54today and scaled and that
- 3:55was very appropriate for me
- 3:57to scale today um so scott
- 4:02we follow mayhem
- 4:04programming and they do
- 4:06like three different tracks
- 4:08So one is the freedom track,
- 4:10the independence track,
- 4:11and then there's a Liberty track.
- 4:12And it's just kind of nice
- 4:15to have like these three
- 4:17different tracks kind of,
- 4:18cause it can help you
- 4:19decide basically on where to scale.
- 4:20Although sometimes it's not
- 4:22quite appropriate.
- 4:22Like,
- 4:23like today the freedom track was five
- 4:28bar muscle ups and 15 toes to bar.
- 4:31And then the independence
- 4:33was still three bar muscle
- 4:34ups in like 12 toes to bar.
- 4:37So it's not always like,
- 4:39quite appropriate.
- 4:40And I think later in the week,
- 4:41there's like handstand walks for freedom.
- 4:44And then it's like, oh,
- 4:46it's only 15 foot of
- 4:47handstand walks if you're independent.
- 4:49So it's, you're like, yeah,
- 4:54but I went to independence today.
- 4:57That was the right thing for me.
- 4:59And yeah.
- 5:01So Scott.
- 5:03They've picked the volume up for sure.
- 5:05Yeah.
- 5:05Yeah.
- 5:06Picking the volume up.
- 5:07That opened right around the corner.
- 5:09Here we are.
- 5:11Speaking of.
- 5:12You signed up?
- 5:13I signed up.
- 5:15Did you sign up?
- 5:17I am signed up,
- 5:18so I can see my name over top of Corey's.
- 5:23Yeah.
- 5:24Scott?
- 5:26Am I signed up?
- 5:28Yeah.
- 5:28Yeah.
- 5:29Um, I am waiting to see how this,
- 5:33whatever goes in my lungs.
- 5:36You have several weeks you can do.
- 5:38I mean, I'll probably will.
- 5:42Yeah.
- 5:44It's number 12 for me.
- 5:46I know you almost have to,
- 5:48you do have to at least
- 5:50minimum work requirement.
- 5:53Yeah.
- 5:54So you didn't work out today
- 5:56because it's Tuesday.
- 5:59It's Tuesday.
- 5:59And I found out today from
- 6:02the doctor that I have a lung infection.
- 6:06And if you've watched the weight loss show,
- 6:10we've been talking about like,
- 6:11I can't seem to get my cardio back.
- 6:14Well, now we have an answer for it.
- 6:16And yeah.
- 6:18So now we're starting on something,
- 6:21checking in on Monday,
- 6:22seeing where we're going from there,
- 6:25and whether we need further
- 6:26testing or not.
- 6:27Well,
- 6:28I guess what I'm hearing is these
- 6:30steroids that you've been putting on,
- 6:32you will be ready to be on WWE tomorrow.
- 6:37Yeah,
- 6:38my doctor assures me they will do
- 6:40nothing for my performance.
- 6:42Dang it.
- 6:43I was going to say,
- 6:44if you don't use it all.
- 6:46The wrong kind.
- 6:49we can probably get you some
- 6:52this isn't in our notes or
- 6:54even on like the slide but
- 6:57you guys brought up
- 6:57something about your mayhem
- 6:59programming I was listening
- 7:01to hillar and athena last
- 7:02night talking about getting
- 7:05her ready for the open and
- 7:09he's having her do one um hard thing
- 7:14Yes,
- 7:14but one open workout every Friday
- 7:19leading into the open, which is typical,
- 7:21right?
- 7:22Yeah.
- 7:23But they got into this
- 7:23discussion about should the
- 7:26open be scaled?
- 7:27And Hiller's argument was it
- 7:34should not be.
- 7:36That...
- 7:37If programmed correctly,
- 7:39you can do the best you can for an RX.
- 7:44And then the next year you
- 7:45should try to do better than that.
- 7:48Like get better.
- 7:49And, um,
- 7:52and so I just wanted your opinions.
- 7:53Cause I know you probably
- 7:55have strong ones.
- 7:56Athena had been doing
- 7:58foundation level open for
- 8:00the last couple of years and
- 8:05after the argument I think
- 8:06she kind of agreed with
- 8:08hillar so he's he's saying
- 8:11you want to be able to
- 8:12compare apples to apples
- 8:13pretty much but for
- 8:16yourself not for the
- 8:19overall same workout every
- 8:24year but there's always the
- 8:27same movements that either
- 8:29that are your stopper or um
- 8:34Or, you know,
- 8:36like back in the day when I
- 8:37was really fit,
- 8:39chest to bar were a stopper for me.
- 8:41Yeah.
- 8:42I could come within a gnat's
- 8:44eyelash of a chest to bar.
- 8:46It was like one of the
- 8:47things I had to work on.
- 8:48And the next year I wanted to beat that.
- 8:50For Amy, it's a muscle up.
- 8:52Like every year she wants to
- 8:53get past her stopper.
- 8:55So even though you're not
- 8:56doing the same workouts,
- 8:58you have the same stopper
- 8:59that you're trying to get over.
- 9:00Yes.
- 9:01Yeah.
- 9:04yeah but essentially could
- 9:05you use that same theory
- 9:09with the scale movement so
- 9:15if it's like the scale the
- 9:17pull-ups and I did 10 next
- 9:21year I'm doing 15. so what
- 9:23would be the difference yeah i
- 9:28He pulled up an example that
- 9:30she's doing this Friday.
- 9:31It starts with dumbbells,
- 9:33then goes to burpee box overs.
- 9:36Well,
- 9:36she can't do the burpee box overs RX.
- 9:38So she can scale those in
- 9:40her workout for them this week.
- 9:42But her RX score is doing the,
- 9:46because she can do the dumbbell snatches,
- 9:50right?
- 9:52So she should give herself credit
- 9:59So here's what I, yeah,
- 10:02here's where I'll go and say.
- 10:06I like the idea of something
- 10:10to work towards.
- 10:12I think that is really important, right?
- 10:14Like my stopper has had me
- 10:17busting my butt for a while
- 10:20to try to achieve that goal.
- 10:22And so I think we need
- 10:23something to look up for, up to,
- 10:25and to work towards.
- 10:27I understand also that
- 10:29people are not gonna be
- 10:30able to do movement and I
- 10:31don't want someone
- 10:32necessarily to go beyond
- 10:35their means and do something unsafe,
- 10:37but I do think it's
- 10:38important to find something
- 10:39to challenge us.
- 10:40And I mean,
- 10:42I like the idea of there being
- 10:43a foundations option,
- 10:45a foundations and an RX option,
- 10:47just because it will allow
- 10:50more of the newer people
- 10:51that are part of a
- 10:52community to kind of become
- 10:54more integrated with the community,
- 10:56although on the more scalable, um,
- 10:59appropriate level.
- 11:01So is,
- 11:02is Hill was Hiller saying like he's
- 11:04anti the foundations or
- 11:06just anti people doing foundations?
- 11:10I think he was not anti.
- 11:12I think he was anti scaled
- 11:14and foundations as an
- 11:16official thing for leaderboard.
- 11:18Okay.
- 11:20If you get to your stopping
- 11:22point and you want to move
- 11:23on and continue to work out, that's fine.
- 11:27But he thinks Athena should
- 11:29get credit for a 35 pound
- 11:31dumbbell snatch.
- 11:32I see.
- 11:32As opposed to going to
- 11:35foundations and doing a 10
- 11:36pound dumbbell snatch.
- 11:38It's not even challenging.
- 11:40Yeah.
- 11:40I see.
- 11:41Yes.
- 11:41I'm in agreement with that.
- 11:43Yeah.
- 11:44And I think that's perfect.
- 11:46Yeah.
- 11:47No, you're good.
- 11:49I was going to say, I,
- 11:51I feel like the open is a
- 11:52test of your fitness.
- 11:55And if I'm doing a 50 pound
- 11:59dumbbell snatch and I can
- 12:00do it once in the next year,
- 12:04I can do it three times.
- 12:06That doesn't say that I'm more fit.
- 12:09Whereas I don't, I don't think you're,
- 12:13when it becomes a weight issue,
- 12:14now we're just in
- 12:16powerlifting competition
- 12:17and not a fitness space.
- 12:23Improvement is improvement.
- 12:27Yeah.
- 12:30He also argues that it's now
- 12:31not a test of fitness.
- 12:32Three workouts is not a test of fitness.
- 12:35So it's really just like
- 12:37figuring out where you want
- 12:39to improve and being able
- 12:40to compare that year over year.
- 12:43But I think what it came down to is.
- 12:46Is, is Athena proud of doing 10,
- 12:4910 pound snatches to get
- 12:53into a scaled thing that
- 12:55she doesn't even do during the year?
- 12:58Or do you take the 10,
- 13:0135 pound snatches that you can do,
- 13:04get a score of 10 and then
- 13:06just scale it appropriately
- 13:08for you for the rest of the workout?
- 13:11Yes.
- 13:11The next year, try to do better.
- 13:14I guess when I look at foundations,
- 13:16like I'm looking at
- 13:17somebody who's maybe six months or less,
- 13:20like that kind of like,
- 13:23experience.
- 13:23I wouldn't necessarily want
- 13:25to encourage people to do
- 13:26foundations every single year.
- 13:28I would be like, okay,
- 13:30you're just getting part of this.
- 13:32Let's get you going on the foundations.
- 13:35And then next year,
- 13:36when we hit up the open,
- 13:37you'll be another year of experience in,
- 13:40and we can push your limits.
- 13:42If that means that they
- 13:42can't do the 25 yet,
- 13:44but they can do more than 10,
- 13:45I would probably have them
- 13:48do a scaled version in my class.
- 13:50Meaning, all right,
- 13:51pick up the 25 pounder.
- 13:53Here's where I think the
- 13:54appropriate thing is.
- 13:56And as you guys know,
- 13:57I started the open when
- 13:58there was no scaled.
- 13:59It was all RX.
- 14:00Yeah.
- 14:01Right.
- 14:02And I was the guy hanging
- 14:04from the pool bar for nine minutes.
- 14:06Trying to do toes to bar.
- 14:07To do toes to bar or chest to bar.
- 14:09Right.
- 14:11And, but...
- 14:13coming close was an achievement for me.
- 14:15Like it,
- 14:16it brought it into something I could do.
- 14:19I think where I would go
- 14:22with this and I don't want
- 14:23to put it words in Hiller's mouth is as,
- 14:26as a coach of an athlete,
- 14:28I know better what they
- 14:30need to do to get better
- 14:33than a template foundations
- 14:36version of the open or
- 14:38scaled version of the open.
- 14:42Because there may be
- 14:43elements that that person
- 14:44can do Rx and probably should do Rx.
- 14:51So they get closer to being
- 14:53able to complete one in the open.
- 14:58Yeah.
- 14:59And you're going to get
- 15:00people who are going to hurt themselves.
- 15:03Well, that's the coach and the coaching,
- 15:07hopefully.
- 15:08Yeah, but.
- 15:11As you all coaches know, I'm not a coach,
- 15:14but I play one on TV.
- 15:17You guys can say all you want.
- 15:20And there's people that are
- 15:21not going to listen.
- 15:22Do what they want.
- 15:24They got no business doing it.
- 15:26But the mindset is I have to
- 15:29do RX because it's what's written.
- 15:32Hmm.
- 15:34Well,
- 15:35you're not going to change that with
- 15:36a templated scaled or
- 15:39foundations because they're
- 15:40going to do it anyway.
- 15:41Right.
- 15:42It's a competition and
- 15:43people's minds get lost.
- 15:46Yes.
- 15:48I just,
- 15:48I thought it was an interesting
- 15:49topic and I thought that
- 15:52was a good discussion.
- 15:53Cause I can assure you if
- 15:55Corey puts 300 and an overhead squat,
- 15:58I'm going to try it.
- 15:59Nope.
- 15:59You're not.
- 16:00No.
- 16:00Watch me.
- 16:02Okay.
- 16:03And I'll pick up your left
- 16:05and Amy can pick up your right knee.
- 16:07I'm going to just turn that
- 16:10hip on to explode.
- 16:13Get me out of that hole.
- 16:15Yeah.
- 16:17You're going to need some,
- 16:19some working hips to get out of that.
- 16:22There he is.
- 16:27He's a different dude.
- 16:29He scales.
- 16:31Yeah.
- 16:34Oh boy.
- 16:35Yeah.
- 16:35I would say when I saw him
- 16:37at the beginning of the weekend,
- 16:39he was a different dude.
- 16:40And by the end of the weekend,
- 16:42he was dog tired.
- 16:45So you need more every time
- 16:48when you're in your forties.
- 16:50Well, I don't think he's used,
- 16:52was used to four days of,
- 16:55or three days competition.
- 17:01So, uh, the, the, uh,
- 17:07he admitted he was beat down.
- 17:09Yeah.
- 17:11Um, I,
- 17:12I talk about camps on the thumbnail
- 17:15for today.
- 17:16Yeah.
- 17:18There's been some news kind
- 17:19of floating around about proven.
- 17:21And, um,
- 17:23we announced HWPO is a lineup for
- 17:26this year.
- 17:27We, uh,
- 17:29proven has,
- 17:30I don't think Comtrain has anybody left.
- 17:33They, um, they, they all split off that is,
- 17:38and took their athletes with them.
- 17:43Um, but I,
- 17:46there was a moment where camps
- 17:51were the way to go.
- 17:52And my internet is lagging.
- 17:56I wasn't sure if he was mine too.
- 17:57That's why I was like, what's happening.
- 18:01Uh, I'm getting rid of spectrum.
- 18:02This is stupid.
- 18:04Um, so there was a moment where,
- 18:08where camps were that all the rage,
- 18:11where do you think we're at today?
- 18:18Well, it doesn't seem to be the rage.
- 18:20It seems to be people just,
- 18:21or they're jumping camp and,
- 18:23and trying something else.
- 18:25I don't, I don't know.
- 18:26Like,
- 18:27I feel like people aren't giving it
- 18:29also things enough time.
- 18:32I feel, I feel like it's,
- 18:35and I may be wrong, but it's,
- 18:37I feel like it's different
- 18:38because nobody's like in the same space.
- 18:41They're with a camp,
- 18:43but they're doing it in another space,
- 18:45the different coach.
- 18:47And it's not like we're all
- 18:49here in a group getting after each other.
- 18:55I would say if I was a competitive athlete,
- 18:58I'd need push.
- 19:00I'd need others around me.
- 19:01Right.
- 19:03But there are a lot of
- 19:05people like Ariel working
- 19:07out by herself in the garage.
- 19:09Like I couldn't do that.
- 19:10No way.
- 19:11No way.
- 19:12Well,
- 19:12that's because she's the fittest mom.
- 19:20Well, until maybe Tia comes back.
- 19:27And there's different types of camps.
- 19:29Like we have the underdogs,
- 19:32which is kind of mostly
- 19:34on-site for their elite athletes.
- 19:37And Proven is getting there
- 19:38with their new big facility.
- 19:41HWPO has a lot of their athletes up there.
- 19:44We're at least bringing them
- 19:46in for periods of time.
- 19:47And then you have something
- 19:49like Corey did this week.
- 19:51with the Southland camp
- 19:52where there's no real coach.
- 19:54It's just a bunch of dudes
- 19:56and ladies getting together
- 19:59and throwing down for a weekend.
- 20:01And they pick one coach to
- 20:03kind of just organize and program.
- 20:07And the only reason I know a
- 20:09lot about this is Rudy is part of that.
- 20:11Rudy Berger,
- 20:13who is our friend here and pal
- 20:15and Lynette did a lot of
- 20:16the coaching this weekend.
- 20:18Yeah,
- 20:18and I also saw that their daughter
- 20:20got a ring muscle-up.
- 20:22She did.
- 20:23See her coaches work.
- 20:24So, we're going to need some coaching.
- 20:30How old is she?
- 20:32Middle school.
- 20:33Yeah.
- 20:3513, 14?
- 20:35Yeah, she's more pliable.
- 20:37She's light.
- 20:39She's more mobile.
- 20:41No, but that's awesome.
- 20:43Coached by Shelby Neal.
- 20:45And Alexis...
- 20:48Johnson.
- 20:49Yeah.
- 20:52Yeah.
- 20:53So yeah.
- 20:55Well, that girl is fit.
- 20:56If you've never seen that girl workout,
- 21:00she is, she's amazing at rope climbs.
- 21:04Oh yeah.
- 21:04Oh yeah.
- 21:05Weight stuff.
- 21:07She's incredible.
- 21:08Would not be surprised if she wanted to,
- 21:12to see her at the teen games.
- 21:13Yeah.
- 21:13Yeah.
- 21:16Yeah.
- 21:18uh scott tetlow forgot he
- 21:19was there yeah oh yeah
- 21:22there was a lot there yeah
- 21:24I guess so to answer your
- 21:25question like I i think
- 21:26it's great for athletes
- 21:28competitive athletes to
- 21:29have each other to compete
- 21:31um with and to to drive
- 21:32them on their um competition season but
- 21:38like I was saying before I
- 21:39feel like there was so many
- 21:40changes like it's like and
- 21:42I get it like if you try
- 21:43something and it's not the
- 21:44right fit then move on
- 21:45right but I also feel that
- 21:47sometimes they don't give
- 21:49it enough time to like
- 21:50really kind of get into the
- 21:51groove and to get it to
- 21:53know a coach well enough in
- 21:55my outside opinion before
- 21:57they just move on and say
- 21:58oh that's I'm going to the
- 21:59next thing so yeah I agree
- 22:05with you I think a lot of
- 22:06people give up too early
- 22:08um it was interesting on
- 22:09their weaknesses oh
- 22:14yesterday I listened to
- 22:15nick johnston on coffee
- 22:17pods and wads and he talked
- 22:19about the exit interviews
- 22:20with brooke and saxon from proven
- 22:24And their complaint was that
- 22:25Proven didn't have
- 22:28dedicated area for their athletes,
- 22:31that they were commingled
- 22:32in with this gym.
- 22:35And it was frustrating for
- 22:37them to get work in at times.
- 22:40But now there's a Proven headquarters.
- 22:42Yeah, that happened after.
- 22:44That happened.
- 22:45As a result.
- 22:46He explains the whole story.
- 22:52Got it.
- 22:53Because there's been some controversy.
- 22:55about that that the story
- 22:58was that east nashville
- 23:00asked proven to pay and
- 23:02they hadn't in the past and
- 23:03proven said no we're
- 23:04leaving but that's not
- 23:06really what happened there
- 23:07actually was an effort for
- 23:10a group of athletes and
- 23:12proven to buy east
- 23:14nashville because the owner
- 23:15was selling but because of
- 23:19they're like two blocks
- 23:20from the titan stadium and
- 23:22the titan state are by are
- 23:23building a new stadium
- 23:25they were not allowed to
- 23:28alter the building.
- 23:33Got it to make a separate space.
- 23:37So it was it was a really good interview.
- 23:42And Nick, as CEO of proven now,
- 23:45really open and transparent
- 23:47about things that have happened.
- 23:49So
- 23:52Where is Saxon?
- 23:53Do we know?
- 23:56He's still in Tennessee somewhere, yeah.
- 23:58He's with Mayhem.
- 24:00He's back with Facundo.
- 24:04But he's training at a different gym.
- 24:07Is Spence also?
- 24:09Spence wasn't at Mayhem anymore.
- 24:12Oh, he was at Brute.
- 24:14Yeah.
- 24:15Well, Nick Fowler.
- 24:17I don't think Nick Fowler's
- 24:18with Brute anymore.
- 24:20Hmm.
- 24:22So LDY2742, well,
- 24:24for the second year in
- 24:25preparation for the Open,
- 24:26I've pulled my calf,
- 24:28which I only need for the Open.
- 24:29We know they will be in it.
- 24:33Maybe give up the Open and
- 24:34just enjoy fitness without dubs.
- 24:37I mean, you do have two calves,
- 24:38so put in one leg.
- 24:41I mean, we saw Roman do it.
- 24:42Do it on your hands.
- 24:45And a handful of Masters athletes.
- 24:46Look at the guns on that picture.
- 24:48You do it on your hands.
- 24:54um so yeah there's that the
- 24:57other thing I didn't get to
- 24:57talk to you guys about is
- 24:59killer being uh banned from
- 25:00the open I didn't even know
- 25:02that he cannot compete
- 25:07because he admitted to
- 25:08using sure drugs yeah I
- 25:11sent him an official email
- 25:13saying that he will be
- 25:14removed from the open and um
- 25:19And his response pretty much
- 25:22that good you caught me.
- 25:24This is what you should be doing.
- 25:28But your thoughts because a
- 25:30lot of people are clamoring
- 25:31that they think you should
- 25:32be allowed to do the open.
- 25:36Just not be on the leaderboard.
- 25:38No, he can.
- 25:39He can.
- 25:40And just not post a score.
- 25:43Radio.
- 25:45Yeah, that's all he needs to do.
- 25:47He can't put it on the leaderboard,
- 25:48though.
- 25:49No, he can't.
- 25:50And he would be against that.
- 25:54Yeah.
- 25:55I mean, that's exactly what he said.
- 25:57That's what they should be doing.
- 25:59He is a very humble dude, Corey.
- 26:03Or put him on there and see
- 26:05if he can actually, if it actually helps.
- 26:09so the email that he
- 26:11received did not say
- 26:12four-year ban but I can
- 26:14only assume I think he
- 26:16hasn't got the punishment
- 26:17email because they're
- 26:19waiting for him to appeal
- 26:21um so maybe we'll find that
- 26:28out in the coming weeks uh
- 26:31philip kelly trying to rock
- 26:32the boat it took me for t
- 26:34to put her scores on the leaderboard
- 26:37She did not test positive
- 26:39and she didn't admit.
- 26:40Correct.
- 26:42Since he didn't actually compete,
- 26:44he didn't actually cheat.
- 26:46So I don't know why you give
- 26:47him a four-year ban.
- 26:51He signed up.
- 26:54So he did legit sign up.
- 26:56It was explained to me by somebody,
- 26:58I can't remember who it was,
- 26:59that the water rules are if you admit,
- 27:02it's as good as a positive test.
- 27:04Right.
- 27:06Now, they're, like, CrossFit is underwater,
- 27:08so it doesn't mean they
- 27:09have to follow that,
- 27:11but the logic is there.
- 27:13Yeah, just do the workout.
- 27:29Yeah.
- 27:30He's got enough followers.
- 27:32He'll get more people
- 27:33watching his video than
- 27:35most of the others.
- 27:37yes yeah I don't I don't
- 27:42know I don't know what he's
- 27:45on I mean he admits what it
- 27:47is I am not enough to know
- 27:50I don't I'm not
- 27:51knowledgeable enough to
- 27:52know what all of that means
- 27:54and how long the half-life
- 27:56is and all of that stuff I
- 28:00know like basic trt once
- 28:02you stop using it pretty
- 28:03much goes away pretty fast
- 28:08But the other stuff he's using,
- 28:10the peptides,
- 28:11I have no idea what happens.
- 28:13I'm sprinkling out.
- 28:21The elites know how to pass the drug test.
- 28:23I completely agree with you.
- 28:25And I think that there was a
- 28:28piece of Hiller that wanted
- 28:30to see demand a test and
- 28:33see if he could pass it.
- 28:37But
- 28:40I don't think that's going
- 28:40to happen either.
- 28:44And Charlie took down this.
- 28:50That's the peptide you're on?
- 28:52Or that's the one that gets passed?
- 28:55I don't know.
- 28:57Interesting.
- 28:58Most peptides are like
- 28:59numbers and letters.
- 29:04Like some kind of scientific... SR 744...
- 29:10Whatever it is.
- 29:12Ricky was on.
- 29:14Well,
- 29:14I don't think Ricky was on a peptide.
- 29:17He's on something.
- 29:21There you go.
- 29:23Like PPC 157.
- 29:25Is that an airplane?
- 29:29Sure.
- 29:30Helps you fly.
- 29:31Yeah, I don't.
- 29:39I don't know.
- 29:42I'm trying to remember what
- 29:43was on the thumbnail.
- 29:44Let's make sure we cover everything.
- 29:47I'm going to look in real quick.
- 29:51That was it.
- 30:03Don't forget to like and subscribe.
- 30:07Mm-hmm.
- 30:10Oh, Dave's Week in Review.
- 30:12There's something on there I
- 30:15wanted to mention.
- 30:18So we talked about open
- 30:20announcements last week and
- 30:22making them more interesting.
- 30:25In the Week in Review, Dave
- 30:28talked about having an all
- 30:30day competition between
- 30:34several athletes through
- 30:36the day of the open announcement.
- 30:38And just one of the events
- 30:40being like 24.1.
- 30:41So you do like two workouts in the morning,
- 30:47rest up,
- 30:48do the 24.1 and then maybe one
- 30:51more after.
- 30:53And they would have like a prize,
- 30:55like the golden barbell.
- 30:59For the person who won that.
- 31:04I'm figuring I have to put cash on it.
- 31:08Oh, I'm sure.
- 31:11To draw the right names.
- 31:13Right.
- 31:19It only works if they
- 31:20televise the other three.
- 31:23Yeah.
- 31:26Yeah, you'd have to
- 31:27Cause it won't be the point.
- 31:28Hey, this person won.
- 31:29Great.
- 31:30Right.
- 31:32Or use it as highlight package.
- 31:34When you come into the open
- 31:35announcement this morning,
- 31:37they went head to head on
- 31:38this and this here's the
- 31:40highlight package, blah, blah, blah.
- 31:43They didn't do the open announcement.
- 31:45And it sounded like in right
- 31:46before they go off the air,
- 31:47they would do one more.
- 31:51Now that will be cool.
- 31:52What Corey is saying, a golden ticket.
- 31:55If you won all five,
- 31:57you just automatically go to the games.
- 32:02That would be pretty sweet.
- 32:05You could skip the quarters
- 32:08and the semis right to the games.
- 32:15And then probably get smoked at the games.
- 32:17But that's either here or there.
- 32:19It depends on who they invite.
- 32:20If it's Fikowski and Vellner and
- 32:25whatever,
- 32:26and Tia and Laura and... To skip
- 32:30all the stuff, they'd all do it.
- 32:33Hell, Matt might come back and do it.
- 32:37I was actually going to put
- 32:38something in his mailbag to
- 32:41see if he'd read it,
- 32:42but would CrossFit ever
- 32:44consider doing like the Pro
- 32:46Bowl competition skills challenge?
- 32:52Like take elements, break them down,
- 32:54We're going to have a
- 32:55pull-up challenge to see who's the best.
- 32:58We're going to have one rep
- 33:01max clean and jerk to see who's the best.
- 33:05Do you get randoms winning?
- 33:12Anthony Davis would win.
- 33:15It'd have to be a live competition.
- 33:18And you have to be invited,
- 33:19like the Pro Bowl.
- 33:21You're in the Pro Bowl of
- 33:22CrossFit because you
- 33:23finished in the top whatever.
- 33:30then you have a couple wild
- 33:31cards like you won
- 33:32wadapalooza you won rogue
- 33:35so you automatically get in
- 33:36or something like that
- 33:37right and you draw like a
- 33:38little batch of eight
- 33:40athlete eight men eight
- 33:41women and you can sign up
- 33:45for half of the events
- 33:47we're gonna run you pick
- 33:50that sounds like some rogue would do
- 33:53Somebody,
- 33:54I think it'd be really cool to
- 33:56like break it down.
- 33:58Who's the best runner.
- 33:59We're going to run a 5k.
- 34:02Who's the best.
- 34:03We have Sam breaks come in
- 34:05and just destroy everyone.
- 34:0660 years old.
- 34:09You'd have to make the pro bowl.
- 34:12She would.
- 34:13But maybe that's cool, too.
- 34:15Maybe you do bring in a couple athletes.
- 34:17If you won 35 to 39 or 40 to 44,
- 34:21you get to come in and compete.
- 34:26And can maybe a Masters
- 34:28athlete beat an elite
- 34:29athlete in one event?
- 34:31I bet depending on the athlete, yeah.
- 34:3716, 16, 17 winner gets to come.
- 34:4635, 39.
- 34:47Yeah.
- 34:52I think it'd be a cool event and it'd be,
- 34:56it would be an easy watch, right?
- 34:58Because they do their one
- 34:59set of pull-ups and they're done.
- 35:02Yeah.
- 35:04And then we come back later
- 35:05in the day and they do a 5k.
- 35:09And then we come back later
- 35:10in the day and they do GHD sit-ups and
- 35:19You know what I did like?
- 35:20They used to do.
- 35:20They don't do anymore.
- 35:21It was like America versus
- 35:25the international teams.
- 35:29Yeah.
- 35:32Why don't we go away from that?
- 35:36I don't know.
- 35:38I think Castro's floating
- 35:40brings some of the stuff back, but again,
- 35:44I don't know what the expense of that is.
- 35:48I mean,
- 35:48I don't know who America would have
- 35:50on their team, but.
- 35:55Well, men's side, they're fine.
- 35:57It was always the women's side that was.
- 36:06But we're getting better.
- 36:06I guess Emma would be there.
- 36:11Emma Carey.
- 36:12Yeah.
- 36:14Ariel Loewen.
- 36:14Hmm.
- 36:19Yeah.
- 36:21I actually saw,
- 36:22so now onto a different subject.
- 36:26I saw an interesting
- 36:28interview with Emma Carey
- 36:30on Mayhem's channel,
- 36:32Mayhem Athlete Podcast.
- 36:33It was our first one.
- 36:36She talks about a moment, and actually,
- 36:38we're having Ariel on the show next week.
- 36:40I just got confirmation
- 36:42right before I came downstairs.
- 36:44And I'm going to ask her about this.
- 36:46When they were at the
- 36:47Granite Games together,
- 36:48it was Emma's rookie year
- 36:50trying to make it to the games.
- 36:51She was in first place going
- 36:52into the last event.
- 36:54It was the dumbbell overhead
- 36:57lunges that Andrew Sten,
- 37:02if he's still in the chat,
- 37:03was judging and no repped
- 37:05her at the line.
- 37:06And she had to go back and start over.
- 37:10She talks about how in the back,
- 37:13in the corral area was so nice to her.
- 37:16Like that you got this, you go out,
- 37:19you do the best you possibly can.
- 37:22Emma said that intimidated
- 37:23her more than smack talking.
- 37:27Cause she didn't know what to do with it.
- 37:28She didn't know how to
- 37:29compartmentalize it.
- 37:30She didn't know.
- 37:31And it really threw her off her game.
- 37:36And I was like, that is crazy.
- 37:40she must've thought this
- 37:41girl thinks I'm just here
- 37:43to have to do my best.
- 37:45I can't beat her.
- 37:46So she's not even worried about me.
- 37:49Well,
- 37:50what's funny is Emma was in first
- 37:52going into that event,
- 37:53Ariel ends up winning and
- 37:55going to her first ever CrossFit games.
- 38:00So it's, it's it's crazy.
- 38:04that that happened that way.
- 38:07And now Emma's like,
- 38:09I want to be like Ariel.
- 38:14So Ariel's like Patrick Mahomes.
- 38:17He's like, Oh yeah, it's fine.
- 38:19You're winning right now.
- 38:20That's fine.
- 38:22It's fourth quarter.
- 38:22Now it's time to go ahead.
- 38:25Go out there and give it your best.
- 38:29Good game.
- 38:30You got this.
- 38:33And then Patrick Mahomes slices and dices.
- 38:38Yeah.
- 38:39It's, it's a great, great interview.
- 38:41Rory does it.
- 38:42Jake Lockhart's there,
- 38:43but he doesn't ask too many questions.
- 38:47It's really like just Rory
- 38:49and Emma and it's really good.
- 38:55um but yeah I love the
- 38:56invitational idea whether
- 38:58we do international whether
- 39:00we do like the pro bowl
- 39:02skills challenge and you
- 39:05could do this skills
- 39:06challenge by country yeah I
- 39:10just like to put up your
- 39:12best 5k runner yeah I mean
- 39:14the whole attitude of that
- 39:16was one of the best parts
- 39:17of rich's documentary was
- 39:19like I'm not letting her win
- 39:23Let Sam win.
- 39:24I got to get it for America.
- 39:29Yeah.
- 39:30I think it's a good idea, but then again,
- 39:32it's mine.
- 39:33So, of course,
- 39:33I would think it's a good idea.
- 39:35Well, it'll happen.
- 39:36You won't get any credit.
- 39:37So, yeah, there's that.
- 39:38I mean,
- 39:39I brought this up a long time ago
- 39:40where I said we should have belts.
- 39:43Like, if you win the pull-up challenge,
- 39:46you win the belt,
- 39:48and you get it until the
- 39:49next time we do that event.
- 39:50Mm-hmm.
- 39:51then can anybody take it
- 39:53from that person can you
- 39:55cut promos well you should
- 39:58yeah or are you going to be
- 40:00joey chestnut and hold the
- 40:02belt for 15 years choking
- 40:10people out and still win yeah
- 40:15Yeah.
- 40:16So I just thought it'd be a cool concept.
- 40:20And it'd be cool with like a
- 40:21cool thing to display for
- 40:22the year you own the belt.
- 40:25And then hopefully you can defend.
- 40:27Can you imagine walking into
- 40:30the games and just have the belt?
- 40:33You just,
- 40:35every minute you're just walking
- 40:36in with it.
- 40:42Yeah.
- 40:45Friends up at the games,
- 40:46so you pull your pull-up belt.
- 40:50Walk in.
- 40:53Nobody.
- 40:54Everybody's too nice.
- 40:54We need a villain.
- 40:56We need villains.
- 40:59I think we're getting out of that.
- 41:02Who's the bad guy?
- 41:04Who's the heel?
- 41:07I don't know if there's...
- 41:09Roman right now is the heel.
- 41:11Yeah, but
- 41:12Ivan Drago himself.
- 41:16So he needs someone who he
- 41:18needs a Bridget who just
- 41:19gets in here and.
- 41:22And Colton Colton's talking shit.
- 41:25If you didn't see it mic'd up.
- 41:31There's a part where he says.
- 41:35Bunch of these guys won't
- 41:36get in the fight.
- 41:39And he goes to name some,
- 41:41and then he stops himself.
- 41:42No, I better not say their names.
- 41:44I'll see you now.
- 41:45He needs to name names.
- 41:47That's when you're a heel.
- 41:48But he's like,
- 41:49when a workout ends with 60 burpees,
- 41:51there are guys out there
- 41:52that will not jump in that fight.
- 41:56Well, that's true.
- 41:58He should call them out.
- 42:01So, yeah, it's a good one.
- 42:07He doesn't say much on the floor, though.
- 42:09You only get them kind of after.
- 42:10Yeah, so you need a before, middle,
- 42:18a full Ric Flair.
- 42:22Oh.
- 42:24Yeah, when the one event changed, he said,
- 42:27when this got changed,
- 42:28everybody knew I was going to win it.
- 42:33That's what I'm talking about.
- 42:36So, and that they...
- 42:41I think what Corey's
- 42:42referencing is there's a
- 42:44point where everybody's
- 42:44rolling around on the
- 42:45ground after the event and
- 42:47he's just standing there
- 42:49and that's when he called them.
- 42:56Yeah, you know.
- 42:59Yeah.
- 43:00Yeah, Hopper's not it.
- 43:02His mic'd up is great though.
- 43:06It's so good.
- 43:10He's going to come for people, but he,
- 43:14but he's comes from that football world,
- 43:15right?
- 43:16Where everybody talks.
- 43:17I was watching an old, um,
- 43:21Peyton Manning with that,
- 43:23that show he did about the NFL.
- 43:25Oh yeah.
- 43:27And he goes back to talk
- 43:29about the movie with Kurt Russell.
- 43:36East LA.
- 43:37No, it's a football movie.
- 43:40And Robin Williams is in it.
- 43:43And they get back the old
- 43:45team to play this other
- 43:47team 20 years after they
- 43:50graduate high school.
- 43:52And
- 43:57And Rob Williams lines up
- 43:58against this corner whose
- 44:01name is Dr. Death.
- 44:03And Rob Williams is like, Dr. Death,
- 44:06I'm pretty quick for a white guy.
- 44:11And then the ball snapped
- 44:13and they just crush him into the ground.
- 44:18It's the best of times.
- 44:20That's the name of the movie.
- 44:22Best of times.
- 44:28It's Peyton Manning's
- 44:28favorite football movie.
- 44:31I'll have to see if I can find that.
- 44:34It's really stupid and corny,
- 44:37but it's pretty funny.
- 44:42The football in it leaves a
- 44:45little bit to be desired.
- 44:47Wow.
- 44:48I mean,
- 44:49I'll see Robin Williams as an elite
- 44:51athlete.
- 44:53Well,
- 44:53the premise is he dropped the ball at
- 44:55the big game when they were
- 44:56in high school,
- 44:57and he wants to play it
- 44:58again so he can catch it
- 44:59and avenge himself.
- 45:08But anyway, we're rambling now.
- 45:13With that,
- 45:15Phillip Kelly wants to know if
- 45:16we've seen Flubber.
- 45:21Oh, yeah, I've seen Flubber.
- 45:25All right.
- 45:26Well, with that,
- 45:27I'm going to go take care
- 45:29of this lung infection.
- 45:34And we will see you guys
- 45:36next time on Clydesdale
- 45:39Media Roundtable as soon as
- 45:42I find the button.