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[replay]Unveiling the DNA Project: A Journey Through Life, Love, and Music · Music Explored Podcast

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  A
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  lot
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  of
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  you
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  are
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  familiar
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  with
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  the
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  DNA
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  project
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  and
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  have
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  been
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  rocking
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  with
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  us
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  for
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  a
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  while,
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  but
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  some
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  of
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  you
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  aren't.
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  A
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  lot
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  of
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  you
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  are
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  faithful
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  listeners
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  of
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  the
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  podcast
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  but
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  aren't
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  familiar
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  with
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  some
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  of
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  the
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  other
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  work
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  that
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  we
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  do.
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  So
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  I
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  just
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  want
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  to
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  take
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  a
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  quick
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  moment
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  to
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  explain
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  to
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  you
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  more
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  of
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  what
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  we
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  do.
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  So
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  you're
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  getting
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  married,
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  or
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  you
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  have
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  a
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  friend,
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  a
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  cousin,
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  a
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  sister,
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  somebody
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  you
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  know
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  who's
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  getting
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  married.
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  Okay,
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  you've
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  booked
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  your
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  venue,
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  caterers,
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  photographer,
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  all
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  that
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  good
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  stuff.
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  When
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  it
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  comes
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  to
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  live
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  music,
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  most
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  people
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  have
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  no
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  idea
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  where
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  to
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  look.
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  We
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  have
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  you
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  covered.
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  Picture
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  this
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  during
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  the
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  ceremony,
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  while
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  guests
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  are
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  being
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  seated
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  or
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  while
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  the
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  bride's
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  walking
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  down
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  the
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  aisle,
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  during
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  the
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  cocktail
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  hour,
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  while
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  guests
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  are
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  just
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  mingling
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  and
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  having
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  a
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  good
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  time,
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  don't
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  forget
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  about
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  dinner
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  music.
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  That's
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  very
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  important
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  to
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  set
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  the
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  mood
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  while
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  guests
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  eat.
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  And
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  we
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  definitely
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  can't
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  forget
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  the
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  party.
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  Let's
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  get
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  the
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  party
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  started
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  right
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  now
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  with
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  the
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  DNA
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  project,
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  www.thednaproject.ca
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  for
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  more
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  information.
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  Hello.
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  Bonjour
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  and
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  Wahguan,
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  everybody.
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  Thank
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  you
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  for
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  joining
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  us
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  on
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  the
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  DNA
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  airwaves.
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  My
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  name
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  is
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  Doriki.
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  I'm
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  here
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  with
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  two
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  wonderful
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  gentlemen.
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  My
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  co
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  host
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  Anthony,
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  and
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  our
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  producer,
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  Matt.
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  How
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  you
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  guys
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  doing
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  today?
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  Good.
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  Good,
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  man.
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  Happy
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  to
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  be
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  here.
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  It's
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  exciting,
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  exciting
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  day,
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  exciting
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  time.
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  Yeah.
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  This
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  is
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  the
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  first
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  podcast,
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  the
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  first
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  one
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  to
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  hit
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  the
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  interwebs.
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  And
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  I
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  guess
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  we
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  should
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  probably
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  just
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  tell
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  people
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  how
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  this
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  podcast
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  came
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  to
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  be,
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  right?
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  I
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  mean,
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  it
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  started
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  off
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  as
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  a
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  dream,
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  and
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  look
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  where
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  we
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  are
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  now.
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  We've
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  come
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  so
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  far,
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  number
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  one.
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  So,
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  yeah,
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  let's.
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  Let's
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  give
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  them
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  of
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  background,
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  I
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  guess,
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  as
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  to
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  the
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  DNA
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  project
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  in
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  general
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  and
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  how
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  we
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  kind
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  of
• 1:35
  morph
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  this
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  into
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  a
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  podcast.
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  It's
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  a
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  good
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  starting
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  place
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  for
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  sure.
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  So
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  the
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  DNA
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  project,
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  for
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  those
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  who
• 1:41
  don't
• 1:41
  know,
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  we
• 1:43
  are
• 1:43
  a
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  full
• 1:43
  entertainment
• 1:44
  agency.
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  We
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  book
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  talent
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  for
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  all
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  sorts
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  of
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  events.
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  Weddings,
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  corporate
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  events,
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  recording
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  work,
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  all
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  that
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  good
• 1:51
  stuff.
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  So
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  anything
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  to
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  do
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  with
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  music,
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  live
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  or
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  recorded,
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  we
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  have
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  a
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  part
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  of
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  that.
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  In
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  the
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  last
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  six
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  years,
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  we've
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  been
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  fortunate.
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  We've
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  worked
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  for
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  hundreds
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  of
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  brides.
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  We've
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  worked
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  with
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  a
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  couple
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  hundred
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  musicians
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  at
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  this
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  point.
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  I
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  mean,
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  dozens
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  of
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  corporations.
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  We've
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  traveled
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  across
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  Canada
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  performing,
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  so
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  we've
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  made
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  headway.
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  We
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  still
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  have
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  a
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  long
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  way
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  to
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  go
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  as
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  far
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  as
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  our
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  plans,
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  but
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  anything
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  to
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  do
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  with
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  live
• 2:17
  music
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  and
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  music
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  in
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  general,
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  we've
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  had
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  our
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  hands
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  on.
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  And
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  when
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  Doriki
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  And
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  I,
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  when
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  we
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  spoke,
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  we
• 2:24
  came
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  up
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  with
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  this
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  concept
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  to
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  start
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  the
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  podcast.
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  Yeah,
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  it
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  was
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  actually
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  mine
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  and
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  Matt's
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  friend
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  and
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  next
• 2:34
  door
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  neighbor,
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  Mike
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  Wixon,
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  who
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  kind
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  of
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  shout
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  out
• 2:37
  to
• 2:37
  Mike
• 2:37
  from
• 2:38
  the
• 2:38
  pod
• 2:38
  plant.
• 2:38
  He
• 2:38
  kind
• 2:39
  of
• 2:39
  put
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  the
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  idea
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  into
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  my
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  head
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  and
• 2:41
  I
• 2:42
  started
• 2:42
  trying
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  to
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  put
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  the
• 2:43
  seed
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  into
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  your
• 2:44
  guys.
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  Both
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  Matt
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  and
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  Anthony
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  said,
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  you're
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  right,
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  I
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  lied.
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  I
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  think
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  a
• 2:50
  lot
• 2:50
  of
• 2:50
  people
• 2:50
  are
• 2:50
  like,
• 2:51
  we
• 2:51
  should
• 2:51
  do
• 2:51
  a
• 2:51
  podcast
• 2:52
  now.
• 2:53
  I
• 2:53
  don't
• 2:53
  think
• 2:53
  it's
• 2:53
  an
• 2:53
  exclusive
• 2:54
  thing.
• 2:54
  Not
• 2:55
  everybody
• 2:55
  pulls
• 2:55
  it
• 2:56
  off
• 2:56
  very
• 2:56
  well,
• 2:56
  but
• 2:56
  it's
• 2:56
  one
• 2:57
  of
• 2:57
  those,
• 2:57
  like,
• 2:57
  we
• 2:58
  should
• 2:58
  buy
• 2:58
  a
• 2:58
  bar
• 2:58
  by
• 2:59
  2020.
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  Yeah.
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  So,
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  I
• 3:02
  mean,
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  I
• 3:02
  guess
• 3:02
  I
• 3:02
  had
• 3:03
  that
• 3:03
  similar,
• 3:04
  like,
• 3:04
  everybody's
• 3:04
  getting
• 3:05
  like,
• 3:05
  we
• 3:05
  should
• 3:05
  start
• 3:05
  a
• 3:05
  podcast.
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  And
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  I
• 3:07
  struggled
• 3:08
  with
• 3:08
  kind
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  of
• 3:09
  figuring
• 3:09
  out
• 3:09
  what
• 3:10
  we
• 3:10
  could
• 3:10
  really
• 3:11
  base
• 3:12
  the
• 3:12
  show
• 3:12
  around.
• 3:13
  And
• 3:13
  then
• 3:14
  when
• 3:14
  I
• 3:14
  had
• 3:15
  the
• 3:15
  conversation
• 3:15
  with
• 3:16
  you,
• 3:17
  you
• 3:17
  came
• 3:17
  up
• 3:18
  with
• 3:18
  the
• 3:18
  wonderful
• 3:18
  idea
• 3:19
  of
• 3:19
  kind
• 3:19
  of
• 3:19
  basing
• 3:20
  it
• 3:20
  basically
• 3:20
  on
• 3:21
  the
• 3:21
  brand,
• 3:21
  which
• 3:21
  is
• 3:22
  life,
• 3:22
  love
• 3:22
  and
• 3:23
  music.
• 3:24
  And
• 3:24
  I
• 3:24
  guess.
• 3:25
  Am
• 3:25
  I
• 3:25
  missing
• 3:25
  something?
• 3:26
  No,
• 3:26
  that's
• 3:26
  it,
• 3:27
  man.
• 3:27
  Yeah.
• 3:27
  So
• 3:27
  we
• 3:27
  talked
• 3:28
  about
• 3:28
  music,
• 3:28
  we
• 3:28
  talked
• 3:29
  about
• 3:29
  just
• 3:30
  keeping
• 3:30
  it
• 3:30
  Canadian
• 3:31
  music
• 3:31
  or
• 3:32
  Canadian
• 3:32
  content
• 3:32
  as
• 3:33
  much
• 3:33
  as
• 3:33
  possible
• 3:34
  and
• 3:34
  just
• 3:35
  giving
• 3:36
  Canadian
• 3:36
  talent
• 3:38
  network
• 3:38
  or
• 3:40
  music
• 3:40
  executives
• 3:41
  a
• 3:42
  voice.
• 3:42
  So
• 3:42
  anyone
• 3:42
  who's
• 3:43
  into
• 3:43
  industry,
• 3:43
  we
• 3:43
  wanted
• 3:44
  to
• 3:44
  kind
• 3:44
  of
• 3:44
  hear
• 3:44
  their
• 3:45
  story,
• 3:46
  share
• 3:46
  hours
• 3:46
  with
• 3:47
  them,
• 3:47
  and
• 3:47
  you
• 3:47
  start
• 3:48
  to
• 3:48
  create
• 3:48
  some
• 3:48
  more
• 3:48
  platforms.
• 3:50
  We
• 3:50
  were
• 3:50
  fortunate
• 3:51
  enough
• 3:51
  to
• 3:51
  have
• 3:52
  the
• 3:52
  mpl,
• 3:53
  which
• 3:53
  you'll
• 3:54
  tell
• 3:54
  us
• 3:54
  a
• 3:54
  little
• 3:55
  bit
• 3:55
  about
• 3:55
  as
• 3:55
  well,
• 3:56
  to
• 3:56
  be
• 3:56
  able
• 3:56
  to
• 3:57
  have
• 3:57
  the
• 3:57
  space
• 3:58
  to
• 3:58
  facilitate
• 3:59
  this
• 3:59
  and
• 3:59
  make
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  it
• 4:00
  happen.
• 4:01
  Yeah,
• 4:01
  I
• 4:01
  mean,
• 4:02
  it
• 4:02
  was
• 4:02
  an
• 4:02
  obvious
• 4:03
  choice
• 4:03
  when
• 4:03
  we
• 4:04
  had
• 4:04
  decided
• 4:04
  to
• 4:05
  like,
• 4:05
  start
• 4:06
  recording.
• 4:06
  I
• 4:06
  had
• 4:06
  reached
• 4:07
  out
• 4:07
  to
• 4:07
  Matt
• 4:08
  about
• 4:08
  the
• 4:08
  idea
• 4:09
  and
• 4:09
  he
• 4:09
  was
• 4:09
  obviously
• 4:10
  like,
• 4:10
  yeah,
• 4:10
  it's
• 4:11
  a
• 4:11
  great
• 4:11
  idea
• 4:12
  and
• 4:13
  why
• 4:14
  not
• 4:14
  record
• 4:14
  it
• 4:14
  here
• 4:14
  at
• 4:15
  the
• 4:15
  mpl?
• 4:15
  So
• 4:16
  I
• 4:16
  mean,
• 4:18
  I
• 4:18
  guess
• 4:18
  if
• 4:18
  we
• 4:19
  were
• 4:19
  going
• 4:19
  into
• 4:20
  a
• 4:20
  bit
• 4:20
  of
• 4:20
  history,
• 4:21
  Matt,
• 4:21
  maybe
• 4:21
  you
• 4:21
  want
• 4:22
  to
• 4:22
  tell
• 4:22
  people
• 4:23
  just
• 4:23
  basically
• 4:24
  the
• 4:25
  history
• 4:25
  of
• 4:25
  the
• 4:25
  mpl.
• 4:26
  And.
• 4:28
  I
• 4:28
  think
• 4:29
  in
• 4:29
  some
• 4:29
  ways
• 4:30
  it's
• 4:30
  kind
• 4:30
  of
• 4:30
  similar
• 4:30
  to
• 4:30
  DNA
• 4:31
  project,
• 4:31
  where
• 4:32
  there
• 4:32
  was
• 4:33
  just
• 4:33
  a
• 4:33
  lot
• 4:33
  of
• 4:33
  things
• 4:34
  that
• 4:34
  we
• 4:34
  were
• 4:34
  interested
• 4:35
  in
• 4:35
  doing.
• 4:36
  And
• 4:37
  instead
• 4:37
  of
• 4:38
  picking
• 4:38
  one
• 4:39
  thing
• 4:40
  or
• 4:40
  instead
• 4:40
  of
• 4:40
  maybe
• 4:41
  splitting
• 4:41
  into
• 4:41
  different
• 4:42
  businesses,
• 4:44
  we
• 4:45
  just
• 4:45
  got
• 4:45
  this
• 4:45
  idea
• 4:46
  of
• 4:46
  making.
• 4:48
  I
• 4:48
  cringe
• 4:48
  when
• 4:48
  I
• 4:49
  say
• 4:49
  this
• 4:49
  a
• 4:49
  multimedia
• 4:50
  studio
• 4:50
  because
• 4:51
  when
• 4:51
  people
• 4:51
  say
• 4:51
  that,
• 4:51
  it
• 4:52
  usually
• 4:52
  means
• 4:52
  that,
• 4:52
  okay,
• 4:53
  you
• 4:53
  have,
• 4:53
  you
• 4:53
  have
• 4:53
  like
• 4:53
  a
• 4:54
  laptop
• 4:54
  in
• 4:54
  your
• 4:54
  basement.
• 4:55
  But
• 4:56
  it
• 4:57
  truly
• 4:57
  is.
• 4:57
  That
• 4:57
  was
• 4:58
  the
• 4:58
  goal.
• 4:58
  And
• 4:58
  I,
• 4:58
  I
• 4:59
  think
• 4:59
  as
• 4:59
  of
• 4:59
  quite
• 5:00
  recently,
• 5:00
  we,
• 5:01
  we
• 5:01
  really
• 5:01
  finished
• 5:02
  it.
• 5:02
  Yeah.
• 5:03
  It's
• 5:03
  beautiful
• 5:04
  space.
• 5:05
  Thank
• 5:05
  you.
• 5:05
  Yeah.
• 5:05
  So
• 5:05
  it's
• 5:08
  film
• 5:08
  shoots
• 5:09
  and
• 5:09
  audio
• 5:10
  post
• 5:10
  production
• 5:10
  and
• 5:11
  Foley.
• 5:13
  To
• 5:13
  those
• 5:13
  of
• 5:13
  you
• 5:13
  that
• 5:13
  don't
• 5:14
  know,
• 5:14
  that's
• 5:15
  all
• 5:15
  the
• 5:15
  Human
• 5:16
  sounds
• 5:16
  that
• 5:16
  are
• 5:16
  made
• 5:16
  in
• 5:17
  the
• 5:17
  film,
• 5:17
  like
• 5:17
  footsteps,
• 5:18
  doors
• 5:18
  opening,
• 5:19
  car
• 5:19
  doors,
• 5:19
  all
• 5:20
  that.
• 5:20
  All
• 5:20
  that
• 5:20
  gets
• 5:21
  recreated
• 5:21
  here.
• 5:22
  Yeah,
• 5:22
  Voiceovers,
• 5:23
  podcast,
• 5:24
  stuff
• 5:24
  like
• 5:25
  that.
• 5:25
  And
• 5:26
  personally,
• 5:27
  for
• 5:27
  me,
• 5:28
  I
• 5:28
  think
• 5:29
  my
• 5:29
  ADHD
• 5:30
  really
• 5:30
  helped
• 5:31
  because
• 5:32
  even
• 5:32
  things
• 5:32
  that
• 5:32
  I
• 5:33
  love
• 5:33
  get
• 5:33
  boring.
• 5:34
  And
• 5:34
  this
• 5:34
  way,
• 5:34
  it's
• 5:34
  just
• 5:35
  always
• 5:35
  changing.
• 5:36
  There's
• 5:36
  every
• 5:36
  kind
• 5:36
  of
• 5:37
  creation
• 5:37
  here,
• 5:38
  and
• 5:38
  I
• 5:38
  find
• 5:38
  that
• 5:38
  very
• 5:39
  entertaining,
• 5:39
  for
• 5:40
  sure,
• 5:40
  for.
• 5:40
  From
• 5:40
  a
• 5:41
  personal
• 5:41
  perspective.
• 5:41
  It's
• 5:41
  just
• 5:41
  entertaining
• 5:42
  for
• 5:42
  me.
• 5:42
  Yeah.
• 5:43
  Variety,
• 5:44
  right?
• 5:44
  Variety
• 5:45
  is
• 5:45
  awesome.
• 5:45
  Especially
• 5:47
  now
• 5:47
  that
• 5:47
  things
• 5:48
  are
• 5:48
  so
• 5:48
  limited.
• 5:49
  Yeah,
• 5:49
  we
• 5:49
  still
• 5:50
  get
• 5:50
  variety.
• 5:50
  Right.
• 5:51
  But
• 5:51
  we
• 5:51
  still
• 5:51
  get
• 5:51
  voiceovers.
• 5:52
  We
• 5:52
  still
• 5:52
  get
• 5:52
  animation
• 5:53
  and
• 5:53
  everything
• 5:54
  else,
• 5:54
  you
• 5:54
  know.
• 5:55
  Oh,
• 5:55
  tons
• 5:55
  of
• 5:55
  music.
• 5:55
  That's.
• 5:57
  Yeah,
• 5:57
  that's
• 5:58
  incredible.
• 5:58
  So,
• 5:59
  yeah,
• 5:59
  I
• 5:59
  mean,
• 5:59
  that
• 5:59
  was
• 6:00
  basically
• 6:02
  two
• 6:02
  arms
• 6:02
  coming
• 6:03
  together.
• 6:03
  It
• 6:03
  made
• 6:03
  perfect
• 6:04
  sense
• 6:04
  to
• 6:05
  kind
• 6:05
  of.
• 6:06
  Yeah.
• 6:06
  Come
• 6:07
  together
• 6:07
  and
• 6:08
  start
• 6:08
  the
• 6:09
  podcast.
• 6:09
  I
• 6:09
  think
• 6:10
  all
• 6:10
  three
• 6:11
  of
• 6:11
  us
• 6:11
  have
• 6:11
  a
• 6:12
  wide
• 6:12
  range
• 6:13
  of
• 6:13
  experience
• 6:13
  and
• 6:14
  a
• 6:14
  wide
• 6:14
  range
• 6:15
  of
• 6:15
  different
• 6:17
  things.
• 6:17
  You
• 6:17
  know
• 6:17
  what
• 6:17
  I
• 6:17
  mean?
• 6:18
  I
• 6:18
  thought,
• 6:19
  who
• 6:19
  better
• 6:19
  than
• 6:20
  us
• 6:20
  to
• 6:20
  really
• 6:20
  just
• 6:21
  try
• 6:21
  and.
• 6:23
  Nobody.
• 6:23
  Yeah.
• 6:24
  Start
• 6:24
  a.
• 6:25
  Maybe
• 6:25
  a
• 6:25
  bad
• 6:25
  boy.
• 6:28
  But,
• 6:28
  yeah,
• 6:28
  I
• 6:28
  think
• 6:29
  I.
• 6:29
  What
• 6:29
  the
• 6:30
  goal
• 6:30
  is
• 6:30
  to
• 6:30
  really
• 6:31
  just
• 6:31
  kind
• 6:32
  of
• 6:32
  share
• 6:32
  conversations
• 6:33
  that
• 6:33
  I
• 6:34
  thought
• 6:34
  we
• 6:34
  were
• 6:34
  having
• 6:34
  off
• 6:35
  mic
• 6:35
  anyway
• 6:35
  that
• 6:35
  would
• 6:36
  actually
• 6:36
  be
• 6:37
  really
• 6:37
  good
• 6:37
  to
• 6:37
  share
• 6:38
  and
• 6:38
  then
• 6:38
  bring
• 6:38
  in
• 6:38
  other
• 6:38
  people
• 6:39
  from
• 6:39
  different
• 6:40
  parts
• 6:40
  of
• 6:40
  the
• 6:40
  entertainment
• 6:41
  industry
• 6:42
  in
• 6:42
  with,
• 6:43
  you
• 6:43
  know,
• 6:43
  two
• 6:43
  or
• 6:43
  three
• 6:44
  of
• 6:44
  us
• 6:44
  from
• 6:44
  time
• 6:44
  to
• 6:44
  time
• 6:45
  to
• 6:45
  have
• 6:45
  those
• 6:46
  similar
• 6:46
  conversations
• 6:47
  and
• 6:47
  share
• 6:47
  those
• 6:47
  with,
• 6:48
  you
• 6:48
  know,
• 6:48
  other
• 6:49
  Canadians
• 6:49
  in
• 6:50
  the
• 6:50
  industry
• 6:50
  or
• 6:50
  outside
• 6:51
  the
• 6:51
  industry
• 6:51
  that
• 6:51
  just
• 6:52
  want
• 6:52
  to
• 6:52
  hear
• 6:52
  a
• 6:52
  little
• 6:52
  bit
• 6:52
  more
• 6:52
  about.
• 6:53
  So
• 6:55
  I
• 6:55
  think.
• 6:59
  Tell
• 6:59
  us
• 6:59
  what
• 6:59
  you
• 7:00
  think.
• 7:01
  I
• 7:01
  got
• 7:01
  to
• 7:01
  stop
• 7:01
  doing
• 7:02
  that
• 7:02
  because
• 7:02
  that's
• 7:02
  really
• 7:02
  just
• 7:03
  a
• 7:03
  way
• 7:03
  for
• 7:03
  me
• 7:03
  to
• 7:03
  think
• 7:04
  of
• 7:04
  something
• 7:04
  to
• 7:04
  say.
• 7:05
  Yeah,
• 7:05
  well,
• 7:06
  I
• 7:06
  think
• 7:06
  especially
• 7:07
  now,
• 7:08
  there's
• 7:08
  a
• 7:08
  lot
• 7:08
  to
• 7:09
  talk
• 7:09
  about
• 7:09
  with
• 7:10
  the.
• 7:11
  The
• 7:11
  constant
• 7:12
  barrage
• 7:12
  of
• 7:12
  changes
• 7:13
  to
• 7:13
  the
• 7:13
  industry
• 7:13
  that's
• 7:14
  happening,
• 7:14
  like,
• 7:14
  every
• 7:15
  time.
• 7:16
  And
• 7:16
  I
• 7:16
  think
• 7:16
  this
• 7:16
  applies
• 7:16
  to
• 7:16
  the
• 7:17
  three
• 7:17
  of
• 7:17
  us
• 7:17
  and
• 7:17
  other
• 7:17
  people
• 7:17
  listening
• 7:18
  every
• 7:18
  time,
• 7:19
  like,
• 7:19
  a
• 7:19
  new
• 7:20
  standard
• 7:20
  is
• 7:20
  introduced
• 7:21
  and
• 7:21
  we
• 7:21
  try
• 7:21
  to
• 7:21
  get
• 7:21
  used
• 7:22
  to
• 7:22
  it.
• 7:22
  Like,
• 7:22
  okay,
• 7:23
  YouTube
• 7:23
  plays.
• 7:23
  All
• 7:24
  right,
• 7:24
  that's
• 7:25
  weird,
• 7:25
  but
• 7:25
  okay.
• 7:26
  And
• 7:26
  then
• 7:27
  you
• 7:27
  kind
• 7:27
  of
• 7:27
  get
• 7:27
  your
• 7:28
  YouTube
• 7:28
  system
• 7:28
  and
• 7:28
  it's
• 7:29
  like,
• 7:29
  oh,
• 7:29
  adpocalypse,
• 7:30
  if
• 7:30
  you've
• 7:30
  heard
• 7:30
  of
• 7:31
  that.
• 7:31
  Right.
• 7:31
  And
• 7:31
  it's
• 7:31
  like,
• 7:32
  okay,
• 7:32
  now.
• 7:33
  Now
• 7:33
  the
• 7:33
  payment
• 7:33
  system
• 7:34
  is
• 7:34
  all
• 7:34
  different.
• 7:34
  Okay,
• 7:35
  now
• 7:35
  there's
• 7:35
  streaming.
• 7:36
  What
• 7:36
  the
• 7:36
  hell
• 7:36
  is
• 7:36
  streaming?
• 7:37
  Right?
• 7:38
  Well,
• 7:40
  we
• 7:41
  don't
• 7:41
  own
• 7:41
  your
• 7:41
  music,
• 7:42
  so
• 7:43
  we
• 7:43
  just.
• 7:43
  We're
• 7:43
  just
• 7:43
  trying
• 7:43
  it
• 7:44
  out.
• 7:44
  So
• 7:44
  here's
• 7:44
  a
• 7:44
  penny
• 7:45
  or
• 7:45
  whatever,
• 7:45
  right?
• 7:45
  Or.00
• 7:47
  of
• 7:47
  a
• 7:47
  penny.
• 7:47
  And
• 7:47
  that
• 7:48
  ends
• 7:48
  up
• 7:48
  being.
• 7:51
  That's
• 7:51
  just
• 7:51
  not.
• 7:52
  That
• 7:52
  ends
• 7:52
  up
• 7:52
  not
• 7:52
  being
• 7:53
  enough
• 7:53
  of
• 7:53
  a
• 7:53
  source
• 7:53
  of
• 7:53
  income.
• 7:54
  And
• 7:54
  then
• 7:54
  people
• 7:55
  don't
• 7:55
  buy
• 7:55
  CDs
• 7:56
  and
• 7:56
  then
• 7:56
  you
• 7:56
  have
• 7:56
  to
• 7:56
  sell
• 7:56
  merch.
• 7:57
  But
• 7:57
  why
• 7:57
  do
• 7:57
  I
• 7:57
  have
• 7:57
  to
• 7:57
  sell
• 7:57
  merch
• 7:58
  if
• 7:58
  I'm
• 7:58
  a
• 7:58
  musician?
• 7:58
  I'm
• 7:59
  not
• 7:59
  a
• 7:59
  shirt
• 7:59
  designer.
• 8:00
  And,
• 8:00
  like.
• 8:00
  And
• 8:01
  it's
• 8:01
  just
• 8:01
  going
• 8:01
  to
• 8:01
  keep
• 8:02
  on
• 8:02
  changing,
• 8:02
  and
• 8:02
  this
• 8:02
  Corona
• 8:03
  thing
• 8:03
  is
• 8:03
  probably
• 8:04
  going
• 8:04
  to
• 8:04
  change
• 8:04
  it
• 8:04
  even
• 8:04
  more.
• 8:05
  Right.
• 8:05
  How
• 8:06
  are
• 8:06
  people
• 8:06
  making
• 8:06
  music?
• 8:07
  How
• 8:07
  are
• 8:07
  people
• 8:07
  sharing
• 8:08
  their
• 8:08
  music?
• 8:09
  How
• 8:09
  are
• 8:09
  they
• 8:09
  even
• 8:09
  getting
• 8:10
  noticed
• 8:11
  since
• 8:11
  everyone's
• 8:12
  content
• 8:13
  now
• 8:13
  is
• 8:13
  basically
• 8:13
  them
• 8:14
  sitting
• 8:14
  in
• 8:14
  the
• 8:14
  living
• 8:14
  room
• 8:14
  playing
• 8:14
  the
• 8:15
  guitar?
• 8:15
  Your
• 8:15
  live
• 8:16
  shows
• 8:16
  done,
• 8:16
  you
• 8:17
  know,
• 8:17
  like,
• 8:18
  I
• 8:18
  don't
• 8:18
  know,
• 8:18
  there's
• 8:19
  so
• 8:19
  many
• 8:19
  questions
• 8:20
  about
• 8:20
  that,
• 8:20
  but
• 8:21
  I
• 8:21
  think
• 8:23
  I
• 8:23
  gotta
• 8:24
  stop
• 8:24
  doing
• 8:24
  that.
• 8:24
  That's
• 8:24
  one
• 8:25
  thing
• 8:25
  about,
• 8:26
  like,
• 8:26
  the.
• 8:27
  What
• 8:27
  did
• 8:27
  people.
• 8:28
  Oh,
• 8:28
  the
• 8:28
  new
• 8:28
  normal.
• 8:29
  Yeah.
• 8:29
  Yeah.
• 8:29
  Why
• 8:30
  do
• 8:30
  people
• 8:30
  say,
• 8:30
  what.
• 8:31
  What.
• 8:31
  What
• 8:31
  about
• 8:32
  1918?
• 8:32
  Everything
• 8:33
  went
• 8:33
  back
• 8:33
  to
• 8:33
  the.
• 8:34
  The
• 8:34
  new.
• 8:34
  Are
• 8:34
  we
• 8:35
  ever
• 8:35
  gonna
• 8:35
  now
• 8:35
  wear
• 8:35
  masks
• 8:36
  again?
• 8:36
  Yes.
• 8:36
  Yeah,
• 8:37
  of
• 8:37
  course.
• 8:38
  Why.
• 8:38
  Why
• 8:38
  would
• 8:38
  we
• 8:38
  continue
• 8:39
  wearing
• 8:39
  them?
• 8:40
  Right.
• 8:41
  Why
• 8:41
  would
• 8:41
  we
• 8:41
  continue
• 8:42
  to
• 8:42
  not
• 8:42
  have
• 8:42
  live
• 8:43
  shows?
• 8:43
  I
• 8:44
  don't
• 8:44
  think
• 8:44
  anybody
• 8:44
  can
• 8:44
  live
• 8:44
  without
• 8:45
  live
• 8:45
  shows.
• 8:45
  We
• 8:46
  need
• 8:46
  the
• 8:46
  music.
• 8:46
  Yeah.
• 8:47
  It's
• 8:48
  in
• 8:48
  our
• 8:48
  DNA.
• 8:51
  So
• 8:51
  that
• 8:52
  was
• 8:52
  beautiful.
• 8:52
  Thank
• 8:52
  you.
• 8:53
  I
• 8:53
  don't
• 8:53
  know
• 8:53
  how
• 8:53
  to
• 8:54
  go
• 8:54
  to
• 8:54
  the,
• 8:54
  like,
• 8:54
  the
• 8:55
  back.
• 8:56
  The
• 8:56
  backstory
• 8:57
  beyond
• 8:57
  the
• 8:57
  podcast.
• 8:58
  That's
• 8:58
  what
• 8:58
  I
• 8:58
  was
• 8:58
  trying
• 8:59
  to
• 8:59
  get.
• 8:59
  To,
• 8:59
  like,
• 8:59
  how
• 9:00
  we
• 9:00
  met,
• 9:00
  or
• 9:00
  do.
• 9:00
  We
• 9:00
  need
• 9:00
  to
• 9:00
  jump
• 9:01
  that
• 9:01
  far
• 9:01
  back
• 9:01
  right
• 9:01
  away?
• 9:02
  Like,
• 9:02
  that's
• 9:02
  what
• 9:02
  I'm
• 9:02
  trying
• 9:03
  to
• 9:03
  think
• 9:03
  in
• 9:03
  my
• 9:03
  head.
• 9:03
  It
• 9:04
  doesn't
• 9:04
  feel
• 9:04
  natural
• 9:05
  to
• 9:05
  just
• 9:05
  go
• 9:06
  back.
• 9:06
  Or
• 9:06
  maybe
• 9:06
  we
• 9:06
  should
• 9:06
  just
• 9:07
  go
• 9:07
  back.
• 9:07
  We
• 9:07
  kind
• 9:07
  of
• 9:07
  started
• 9:08
  as
• 9:08
  just
• 9:09
  like
• 9:09
  introduction,
• 9:10
  like,
• 9:10
  meeting
• 9:10
  each
• 9:10
  other.
• 9:10
  Well,
• 9:11
  yeah,
• 9:11
  because
• 9:11
  it's
• 9:11
  the
• 9:11
  introduction
• 9:12
  to
• 9:12
  the
• 9:12
  podcast,
• 9:12
  so
• 9:12
  we
• 9:13
  should
• 9:13
  probably
• 9:13
  talk
• 9:13
  about.
• 9:14
  I
• 9:14
  guess
• 9:14
  I
• 9:15
  would
• 9:15
  have
• 9:15
  to
• 9:15
  say
• 9:15
  how
• 9:15
  we
• 9:16
  met,
• 9:16
  because
• 9:16
  I
• 9:16
  met
• 9:17
  you
• 9:17
  before
• 9:17
  you
• 9:17
  met
• 9:17
  me.
• 9:20
  I
• 9:20
  guess
• 9:20
  I
• 9:20
  can't
• 9:21
  argue
• 9:21
  that
• 9:22
  because.
• 9:22
  I'm
• 9:22
  older
• 9:23
  than
• 9:23
  him.
• 9:23
  I'm
• 9:23
  older
• 9:23
  than
• 9:24
  him.
• 9:24
  So
• 9:24
  you
• 9:25
  met
• 9:25
  him,
• 9:25
  but
• 9:25
  he
• 9:26
  wasn't
• 9:26
  born
• 9:26
  yet?
• 9:26
  Yeah,
• 9:27
  he
• 9:28
  was
• 9:28
  a
• 9:28
  baby.
• 9:28
  I
• 9:28
  was
• 9:28
  aware.
• 9:29
  So
• 9:29
  you
• 9:29
  had.
• 9:30
  Was
• 9:30
  coming.
• 9:30
  You
• 9:30
  had
• 9:31
  a
• 9:31
  higher
• 9:31
  awareness.
• 9:32
  So
• 9:33
  I
• 9:33
  met
• 9:33
  you
• 9:33
  before
• 9:34
  you
• 9:34
  met
• 9:34
  me.
• 9:35
  As
• 9:35
  a
• 9:35
  crazy.
• 9:36
  You
• 9:36
  saw
• 9:36
  me
• 9:36
  first.
• 9:37
  Yeah,
• 9:37
  I
• 9:37
  saw
• 9:37
  him
• 9:38
  first.
• 9:38
  Yeah,
• 9:38
  I
• 9:38
  guess
• 9:38
  that
• 9:39
  I
• 9:39
  saw
• 9:39
  you.
• 9:39
  First
• 9:39
  at
• 9:39
  what,
• 9:40
  age
• 9:40
  zero?
• 9:41
  Yeah,
• 9:41
  one
• 9:42
  day.
• 9:42
  His
• 9:42
  mom
• 9:43
  and
• 9:43
  my
• 9:43
  mom
• 9:43
  were
• 9:43
  really
• 9:44
  good.
• 9:44
  I
• 9:44
  think
• 9:45
  roommates.
• 9:45
  At
• 9:45
  one
• 9:45
  point
• 9:45
  in
• 9:46
  time.
• 9:46
  They
• 9:46
  were
• 9:46
  roommates.
• 9:46
  Yeah.
• 9:47
  And
• 9:49
  so.
• 9:49
  And
• 9:49
  they
• 9:50
  lived
• 9:50
  actually
• 9:50
  together
• 9:51
  with
• 9:51
  his
• 9:52
  grandma
• 9:52
  for
• 9:53
  a
• 9:53
  bit
• 9:53
  too,
• 9:53
  before
• 9:53
  my
• 9:54
  mom
• 9:54
  moved
• 9:54
  out.
• 9:55
  At
• 9:56
  least
• 9:56
  that's
• 9:56
  the
• 9:56
  story
• 9:56
  my
• 9:56
  mom
• 9:57
  tells
• 9:57
  me.
• 9:58
  But,
• 9:58
  yeah,
• 9:59
  so
• 9:59
  I've
• 9:59
  known.
• 10:00
  Or
• 10:00
  maybe
• 10:00
  it
• 10:00
  was
• 10:00
  Sonya.
• 10:01
  Our
• 10:01
  moms
• 10:02
  were
• 10:02
  friends
• 10:03
  from
• 10:03
  babies,
• 10:04
  like
• 10:04
  literal
• 10:05
  babies.
• 10:06
  I
• 10:06
  knew
• 10:06
  him
• 10:07
  from
• 10:07
  when
• 10:07
  he
• 10:07
  was
• 10:07
  a
• 10:07
  baby
• 10:09
  and.
• 10:09
  And
• 10:09
  you
• 10:10
  were
• 10:10
  how
• 10:10
  old?
• 10:12
  A
• 10:12
  lesser
• 10:13
  baby?
• 10:13
  Oh,
• 10:14
  we
• 10:14
  were
• 10:14
  two
• 10:14
  Years
• 10:14
  apart.
• 10:14
  That's
• 10:15
  as
• 10:15
  much
• 10:15
  as
• 10:15
  we'll
• 10:15
  get
• 10:15
  into
• 10:16
  on
• 10:16
  this
• 10:16
  podcast.
• 10:18
  So
• 10:19
  we're
• 10:19
  two
• 10:20
  years
• 10:20
  apart.
• 10:20
  So
• 10:21
  there'd
• 10:21
  always
• 10:21
  be
• 10:22
  at
• 10:22
  least
• 10:23
  minimum
• 10:25
  six
• 10:26
  to
• 10:26
  eight
• 10:26
  kids
• 10:27
  at
• 10:27
  any
• 10:27
  given
• 10:27
  time.
• 10:28
  If
• 10:28
  those
• 10:29
  three
• 10:29
  came
• 10:29
  together,
• 10:30
  I
• 10:30
  envy
• 10:30
  that.
• 10:31
  We
• 10:31
  spend
• 10:31
  a
• 10:32
  lot
• 10:32
  of
• 10:32
  time
• 10:32
  together.
• 10:32
  Yeah.
• 10:32
  That
• 10:32
  was
• 10:32
  me
• 10:33
  with
• 10:33
  my
• 10:33
  cousins
• 10:33
  and
• 10:33
  then
• 10:34
  your
• 10:34
  siblings.
• 10:34
  Right?
• 10:35
  Yeah.
• 10:36
  And
• 10:36
  when
• 10:36
  did
• 10:36
  you
• 10:36
  guys
• 10:37
  decide
• 10:37
  to
• 10:38
  start
• 10:38
  working
• 10:39
  together?
• 10:39
  Well,
• 10:40
  we
• 10:40
  should
• 10:40
  ask
• 10:40
  when
• 10:40
  we
• 10:41
  decided
• 10:41
  to
• 10:41
  be
• 10:41
  friends
• 10:42
  first.
• 10:43
  Well,
• 10:43
  I
• 10:43
  would.
• 10:44
  I
• 10:44
  would
• 10:44
  imagine
• 10:44
  from
• 10:45
  birth,
• 10:45
  your
• 10:46
  moms
• 10:46
  would
• 10:46
  just
• 10:46
  put
• 10:46
  you
• 10:47
  together.
• 10:47
  Right.
• 10:47
  Or
• 10:47
  did
• 10:47
  you,
• 10:48
  like,
• 10:48
  have
• 10:48
  a
• 10:49
  conversation
• 10:49
  as
• 10:49
  kids?
• 10:49
  Like,
• 10:50
  listen,
• 10:50
  should
• 10:50
  we
• 10:50
  be
• 10:50
  friends
• 10:51
  or.
• 10:51
  We're
• 10:51
  always
• 10:51
  going
• 10:52
  to
• 10:52
  be
• 10:52
  together.
• 10:52
  Should
• 10:52
  we
• 10:53
  just
• 10:53
  be
• 10:53
  friends?
• 10:54
  Kind
• 10:54
  of
• 10:54
  makes
• 10:55
  sense.
• 10:56
  Yeah.
• 10:56
  I
• 10:56
  think
• 10:57
  that's
• 10:57
  kind
• 10:57
  of.
• 10:57
  I
• 10:58
  don't
• 10:58
  remember
• 10:58
  having
• 10:58
  a
• 10:59
  discussion
• 10:59
  about,
• 10:59
  like,
• 11:02
  really?
• 11:02
  No,
• 11:03
  I'm
• 11:03
  just.
• 11:03
  Oh,
• 11:03
  that's
• 11:04
  the
• 11:04
  thing
• 11:04
  with.
• 11:04
  With
• 11:05
  friends.
• 11:05
  I'm
• 11:05
  just
• 11:05
  thinking
• 11:06
  for
• 11:06
  myself.
• 11:06
  I
• 11:06
  have
• 11:07
  plenty
• 11:07
  of
• 11:07
  childhood
• 11:07
  friends
• 11:07
  who
• 11:08
  I
• 11:08
  would
• 11:08
  never
• 11:08
  work
• 11:08
  with.
• 11:09
  Right.
• 11:09
  You
• 11:09
  know
• 11:09
  what
• 11:09
  I
• 11:09
  mean?
• 11:09
  I
• 11:10
  love
• 11:10
  them
• 11:10
  to
• 11:10
  death.
• 11:10
  Yeah.
• 11:10
  And
• 11:11
  you're
• 11:11
  absolutely.
• 11:11
  And
• 11:12
  now
• 11:12
  that
• 11:12
  I
• 11:13
  think
• 11:13
  about
• 11:13
  it,
• 11:13
  all
• 11:13
  of
• 11:13
  them.
• 11:14
  Right.
• 11:14
  And
• 11:14
  it's
• 11:15
  just.
• 11:16
  At
• 11:16
  what
• 11:17
  point
• 11:17
  are
• 11:17
  you
• 11:17
  like,
• 11:18
  this
• 11:18
  is
• 11:18
  my.
• 11:18
  But
• 11:18
  also
• 11:19
  this.
• 11:19
  We
• 11:19
  could
• 11:20
  make
• 11:20
  money
• 11:20
  together.
• 11:21
  We
• 11:21
  could
• 11:21
  do
• 11:22
  great
• 11:22
  things.
• 11:22
  You
• 11:22
  remember
• 11:22
  that?
• 11:23
  I
• 11:23
  remember
• 11:23
  the
• 11:24
  point.
• 11:24
  I
• 11:24
  think
• 11:24
  I
• 11:24
  have
• 11:25
  a
• 11:25
  good
• 11:25
  idea,
• 11:25
  but
• 11:25
  I
• 11:25
  want
• 11:25
  you
• 11:25
  to.
• 11:25
  I
• 11:26
  was
• 11:26
  14
• 11:26
  years
• 11:26
  old,
• 11:27
  I
• 11:27
  believe,
• 11:28
  give
• 11:28
  or
• 11:28
  take
• 11:28
  a
• 11:28
  year
• 11:30
  or
• 11:30
  two.
• 11:31
  We
• 11:31
  were
• 11:31
  walking,
• 11:32
  walking
• 11:32
  from
• 11:33
  the
• 11:33
  park.
• 11:34
  Which
• 11:34
  park?
• 11:34
  Shout
• 11:34
  out
• 11:34
  to
• 11:34
  park.
• 11:35
  It
• 11:35
  was
• 11:35
  Temple
• 11:35
  Mead
• 11:35
  park
• 11:35
  in
• 11:36
  Hamilton.
• 11:36
  Temple
• 11:37
  Mead.
• 11:37
  Yeah.
• 11:37
  We
• 11:38
  had
• 11:38
  a
• 11:38
  lot
• 11:38
  of
• 11:38
  good
• 11:38
  basketball
• 11:39
  games
• 11:39
  there.
• 11:40
  So
• 11:40
  we
• 11:40
  were
• 11:41
  walking.
• 11:41
  I
• 11:41
  don't
• 11:42
  know
• 11:42
  if
• 11:42
  we
• 11:42
  finished
• 11:42
  playing
• 11:42
  basketball
• 11:43
  or
• 11:43
  what,
• 11:43
  but
• 11:44
  we
• 11:44
  were
• 11:44
  talking
• 11:44
  about
• 11:45
  moving
• 11:45
  to
• 11:45
  the
• 11:45
  big
• 11:45
  city,
• 11:46
  which
• 11:46
  is
• 11:46
  Toronto,
• 11:47
  to
• 11:48
  become,
• 11:48
  I'm
• 11:49
  gonna
• 11:49
  say
• 11:49
  musicians,
• 11:49
  but
• 11:50
  really
• 11:50
  at
• 11:50
  that
• 11:50
  time,
• 11:50
  it
• 11:50
  was
• 11:50
  rappers.
• 11:52
  That
• 11:52
  was
• 11:52
  kind
• 11:52
  of
• 11:52
  a
• 11:52
  big
• 11:53
  dream
• 11:53
  of
• 11:53
  ours.
• 11:53
  Yeah,
• 11:54
  I
• 11:54
  think
• 11:54
  so.
• 11:55
  That
• 11:56
  was
• 11:56
  my
• 11:56
  start,
• 11:56
  for
• 11:56
  sure.
• 11:57
  We
• 11:57
  actually
• 11:57
  rented
• 11:58
  or.
• 11:58
  I
• 11:58
  don't
• 11:58
  know
• 11:58
  if
• 11:58
  we
• 11:59
  rented
• 11:59
  or.
• 11:59
  We
• 11:59
  did.
• 12:00
  We
• 12:00
  rented
• 12:00
  a
• 12:00
  microphone
• 12:01
  and
• 12:02
  some
• 12:02
  recording.
• 12:03
  Equipment
• 12:03
  from
• 12:03
  Mountain
• 12:04
  Music.
• 12:04
  It
• 12:04
  was
• 12:04
  from
• 12:04
  Mountain
• 12:05
  Music
• 12:05
  in
• 12:05
  Hamilton.
• 12:06
  And
• 12:07
  we
• 12:08
  got
• 12:08
  some
• 12:09
  CDs.
• 12:10
  Yeah.
• 12:10
  Some
• 12:10
  instrumentals.
• 12:11
  Some
• 12:11
  instrumentals.
• 12:12
  And
• 12:12
  that's
• 12:12
  how
• 12:13
  it
• 12:13
  began.
• 12:14
  Obviously,
• 12:14
  nothing
• 12:15
  came
• 12:15
  of
• 12:15
  that,
• 12:16
  but
• 12:16
  when
• 12:16
  you
• 12:16
  fast
• 12:16
  forward
• 12:17
  a
• 12:17
  few
• 12:17
  years,
• 12:17
  it's
• 12:18
  funny
• 12:18
  to
• 12:18
  look
• 12:18
  back
• 12:18
  because
• 12:19
  now
• 12:19
  we're
• 12:19
  working
• 12:19
  together
• 12:20
  in
• 12:20
  the
• 12:20
  space.
• 12:20
  Well,
• 12:21
  I
• 12:21
  wouldn't
• 12:21
  say
• 12:21
  nothing
• 12:21
  came
• 12:22
  of
• 12:22
  that
• 12:22
  immediately.
• 12:23
  That
• 12:23
  evolved
• 12:23
  into.
• 12:23
  It
• 12:24
  planted
• 12:24
  the
• 12:24
  seed.
• 12:24
  It
• 12:25
  planted
• 12:25
  the
• 12:25
  seed.
• 12:26
  But
• 12:26
  now,
• 12:26
  looking
• 12:26
  back
• 12:27
  at
• 12:27
  where
• 12:27
  we
• 12:27
  are,
• 12:28
  that
• 12:28
  will
• 12:28
  always
• 12:29
  be
• 12:29
  a
• 12:29
  kind
• 12:29
  of
• 12:29
  defining
• 12:30
  moment.
• 12:31
  At
• 12:31
  least
• 12:31
  you
• 12:32
  know
• 12:32
  that
• 12:32
  part
• 12:32
  of
• 12:32
  the
• 12:32
  relationship
• 12:33
  for
• 12:34
  sure.
• 12:34
  Yeah.
• 12:35
  That's
• 12:36
  interesting.
• 12:36
  That
• 12:36
  was
• 12:36
  a
• 12:36
  good
• 12:36
  question.
• 12:37
  Because
• 12:37
  I
• 12:37
  never
• 12:38
  thought
• 12:38
  about
• 12:39
  the
• 12:39
  concept
• 12:40
  of
• 12:40
  working
• 12:41
  with
• 12:41
  friends,
• 12:41
  and
• 12:42
  it
• 12:42
  didn't
• 12:42
  really.
• 12:43
  To
• 12:44
  me,
• 12:44
  I
• 12:44
  never
• 12:44
  gave
• 12:45
  it
• 12:46
  any
• 12:46
  because
• 12:46
  I
• 12:47
  knew
• 12:47
  him
• 12:47
  and
• 12:47
  his
• 12:48
  work
• 12:48
  ethic
• 12:48
  and
• 12:49
  how
• 12:49
  disciplined
• 12:50
  and
• 12:50
  just
• 12:51
  the
• 12:51
  man
• 12:51
  that
• 12:51
  he
• 12:51
  became
• 12:52
  from,
• 12:53
  like,
• 12:53
  the
• 12:54
  hooligans
• 12:54
  we
• 12:54
  were
• 12:55
  before.
• 12:55
  He
• 12:56
  was
• 12:56
  one
• 12:56
  of
• 12:56
  the
• 12:56
  first
• 12:56
  guys
• 12:57
  to
• 12:57
  really
• 12:57
  get
• 12:57
  his
• 12:58
  together
• 12:58
  and
• 12:59
  really
• 12:59
  just
• 12:59
  kind
• 12:59
  of
• 13:00
  like,
• 13:00
  separate
• 13:01
  himself
• 13:01
  from
• 13:01
  the
• 13:02
  nonsense
• 13:02
  and
• 13:02
  really
• 13:03
  focus
• 13:03
  on
• 13:03
  what
• 13:04
  was
• 13:04
  important.
• 13:05
  And
• 13:05
  when
• 13:05
  I
• 13:05
  saw
• 13:06
  that
• 13:06
  and
• 13:06
  I
• 13:06
  saw
• 13:07
  what
• 13:07
  he
• 13:07
  had
• 13:07
  started,
• 13:08
  I
• 13:08
  was
• 13:09
  just.
• 13:09
  I
• 13:09
  gravitated
• 13:10
  towards
• 13:10
  it
• 13:10
  because
• 13:10
  I
• 13:11
  was.
• 13:12
  I
• 13:12
  was
• 13:12
  kind
• 13:12
  of
• 13:13
  doing
• 13:13
  some
• 13:13
  dumb
• 13:13
  stuff
• 13:13
  at
• 13:14
  the
• 13:14
  time
• 13:14
  and
• 13:14
  figured,
• 13:15
  you
• 13:15
  know,
• 13:16
  what
• 13:16
  if
• 13:16
  I
• 13:16
  keep
• 13:17
  aligning
• 13:17
  myself?
• 13:18
  Actually,
• 13:18
  his
• 13:18
  stepdad
• 13:19
  always
• 13:19
  had
• 13:19
  a
• 13:19
  great
• 13:20
  quote,
• 13:20
  which
• 13:20
  was,
• 13:21
  show
• 13:21
  me
• 13:21
  your
• 13:22
  friends
• 13:22
  and
• 13:22
  I'll
• 13:22
  tell
• 13:22
  you
• 13:23
  who
• 13:23
  you
• 13:23
  are.
• 13:25
  And
• 13:25
  it
• 13:26
  does.
• 13:26
  And
• 13:26
  my.
• 13:26
  And
• 13:27
  my
• 13:28
  friends
• 13:28
  at
• 13:28
  the
• 13:28
  time
• 13:29
  were
• 13:29
  a
• 13:30
  representation
• 13:30
  of
• 13:30
  who
• 13:31
  I
• 13:31
  was,
• 13:31
  but
• 13:31
  I
• 13:31
  didn't
• 13:31
  want
• 13:32
  that
• 13:32
  to
• 13:32
  be
• 13:32
  me.
• 13:33
  I
• 13:33
  wanted
• 13:33
  to
• 13:34
  be.
• 13:34
  How
• 13:34
  old
• 13:35
  were
• 13:35
  you
• 13:35
  when
• 13:35
  you
• 13:35
  recognize
• 13:35
  this?
• 13:37
  So
• 13:38
  he
• 13:38
  started.
• 13:38
  So
• 13:39
  I
• 13:39
  probably
• 13:39
  say
• 13:39
  late
• 13:40
  20s.
• 13:40
  Like,
• 13:41
  when
• 13:41
  you're
• 13:41
  like,
• 13:41
  my
• 13:41
  friends,
• 13:42
  I
• 13:42
  should
• 13:42
  be
• 13:42
  friends
• 13:42
  with
• 13:43
  these
• 13:43
  people.
• 13:43
  Right.
• 13:43
  I
• 13:44
  was
• 13:44
  like,
• 13:44
  I
• 13:44
  don't
• 13:45
  think
• 13:45
  that
• 13:45
  I
• 13:45
  want
• 13:45
  to
• 13:46
  be
• 13:46
  this
• 13:46
  way
• 13:47
  anymore,
• 13:48
  and
• 13:48
  I
• 13:48
  would
• 13:48
  rather
• 13:49
  just
• 13:49
  kind
• 13:49
  of
• 13:49
  align
• 13:50
  myself
• 13:50
  with
• 13:50
  people
• 13:51
  that
• 13:51
  I
• 13:51
  see
• 13:52
  doing
• 13:52
  good
• 13:52
  stuff.
• 13:53
  So
• 13:54
  I
• 13:54
  cut
• 13:55
  out
• 13:55
  a
• 13:55
  lot
• 13:55
  of
• 13:55
  idiots
• 13:56
  out
• 13:56
  of
• 13:56
  my
• 13:56
  life
• 13:57
  just
• 13:57
  because
• 13:57
  I
• 13:57
  didn't
• 13:58
  want
• 13:58
  to
• 13:59
  go
• 13:59
  down
• 13:59
  the
• 13:59
  path
• 14:00
  that
• 14:00
  some
• 14:00
  of
• 14:00
  them
• 14:00
  had
• 14:01
  already
• 14:01
  gone
• 14:01
  down.
• 14:02
  And
• 14:03
  people
• 14:03
  don't
• 14:03
  seem
• 14:03
  to
• 14:04
  understand
• 14:04
  how
• 14:04
  important
• 14:05
  that
• 14:05
  is.
• 14:06
  It
• 14:06
  took
• 14:06
  a
• 14:06
  while.
• 14:07
  I'm
• 14:07
  not
• 14:07
  going
• 14:07
  to
• 14:07
  pretend
• 14:08
  that
• 14:08
  it
• 14:08
  came
• 14:08
  overnight.
• 14:09
  It
• 14:09
  took
• 14:09
  a
• 14:09
  long
• 14:10
  time
• 14:10
  for
• 14:10
  me
• 14:10
  to
• 14:10
  realize
• 14:11
  the
• 14:11
  people
• 14:11
  I
• 14:12
  were
• 14:12
  hanging
• 14:12
  around
• 14:12
  was
• 14:13
  really
• 14:13
  shaping
• 14:13
  my
• 14:14
  life
• 14:14
  and
• 14:15
  who
• 14:15
  I
• 14:15
  was
• 14:15
  becoming.
• 14:16
  And
• 14:16
  I
• 14:16
  didn't
• 14:16
  like.
• 14:16
  And
• 14:16
  I
• 14:16
  think
• 14:17
  part
• 14:17
  of
• 14:17
  you
• 14:17
  is
• 14:17
  like,
• 14:17
  I
• 14:17
  don't
• 14:17
  want
• 14:17
  to
• 14:17
  be
• 14:18
  a
• 14:18
  dick.
• 14:18
  Like,
• 14:18
  I.
• 14:18
  Like,
• 14:19
  whoever.
• 14:20
  Jim.
• 14:20
  Loyalty.
• 14:21
  Right.
• 14:21
  Like,
• 14:21
  why?
• 14:22
  Like,
• 14:22
  I
• 14:22
  can
• 14:22
  still
• 14:22
  be
• 14:23
  his
• 14:23
  friend.
• 14:23
  And,
• 14:23
  like,
• 14:23
  just
• 14:24
  from
• 14:24
  a
• 14:24
  distance,
• 14:24
  you
• 14:25
  know,
• 14:25
  like,
• 14:25
  it's
• 14:26
  not
• 14:26
  every
• 14:26
  damn
• 14:26
  calling.
• 14:27
  Well,
• 14:27
  you
• 14:27
  know,
• 14:27
  I'm
• 14:27
  asking
• 14:28
  that
• 14:28
  question
• 14:28
  because,
• 14:28
  well,
• 14:28
  Drake,
• 14:29
  you
• 14:29
  and
• 14:29
  I
• 14:29
  work
• 14:29
  together
• 14:30
  as
• 14:30
  well.
• 14:30
  And
• 14:31
  I
• 14:31
  can
• 14:31
  say
• 14:31
  that
• 14:31
  in
• 14:31
  my
• 14:32
  whole
• 14:33
  adult
• 14:33
  life,
• 14:34
  there
• 14:34
  have
• 14:34
  been
• 14:35
  three,
• 14:35
  including
• 14:35
  you,
• 14:36
  three
• 14:36
  people
• 14:36
  who
• 14:37
  I'd
• 14:37
  be
• 14:37
  willing
• 14:38
  to
• 14:38
  partner
• 14:39
  up
• 14:39
  with
• 14:39
  and
• 14:39
  work
• 14:39
  with.
• 14:41
  It's.
• 14:41
  And
• 14:41
  I've
• 14:41
  looked
• 14:42
  far
• 14:42
  and
• 14:42
  wide.
• 14:42
  Right?
• 14:43
  Right.
• 14:43
  And
• 14:43
  that's
• 14:44
  why
• 14:44
  I'm
• 14:44
  like,
• 14:45
  that's
• 14:45
  really
• 14:45
  cool
• 14:45
  that
• 14:46
  you
• 14:46
  guys
• 14:46
  met
• 14:47
  at
• 14:47
  birth.
• 14:48
  I
• 14:48
  mean,
• 14:48
  you
• 14:48
  knew
• 14:48
  him
• 14:48
  before
• 14:49
  you
• 14:49
  knew
• 14:49
  him,
• 14:50
  but
• 14:51
  that.
• 14:52
  That
• 14:52
  worked
• 14:52
  out
• 14:52
  like
• 14:53
  that.
• 14:53
  And
• 14:53
  I
• 14:53
  was
• 14:53
  just.
• 14:53
  And
• 14:54
  like
• 14:54
  you
• 14:54
  said,
• 14:54
  you
• 14:54
  did
• 14:54
  recognize
• 14:55
  that
• 14:55
  Moment
• 14:55
  where
• 14:55
  you're
• 14:56
  like,
• 14:56
  okay,
• 14:56
  Anthony's
• 14:57
  actually
• 14:58
  not
• 14:58
  a
• 14:58
  dipshit.
• 14:59
  Yeah.
• 14:59
  So
• 15:00
  I'm
• 15:00
  gonna
• 15:00
  stick
• 15:00
  with
• 15:00
  him.
• 15:01
  Take
• 15:01
  a
• 15:01
  while
• 15:01
  to
• 15:01
  figure
• 15:02
  it
• 15:02
  out.
• 15:03
  For
• 15:03
  you
• 15:03
  that
• 15:04
  you're
• 15:04
  not
• 15:04
  addiction.
• 15:04
  Or
• 15:04
  for
• 15:05
  him,
• 15:05
  clearly,
• 15:06
  apparently.
• 15:07
  No,
• 15:07
  no,
• 15:07
  no.
• 15:07
  Not
• 15:07
  that
• 15:08
  he
• 15:08
  was.
• 15:09
  Come
• 15:09
  on.
• 15:09
  That's
• 15:10
  not
• 15:10
  fair.
• 15:11
  But,
• 15:11
  like,
• 15:12
  he
• 15:12
  was
• 15:12
  always
• 15:13
  doing
• 15:13
  better
• 15:13
  than
• 15:14
  I
• 15:14
  was.
• 15:14
  As
• 15:15
  far
• 15:15
  as
• 15:15
  just,
• 15:15
  like,
• 15:16
  not
• 15:16
  getting
• 15:16
  himself
• 15:17
  in
• 15:17
  horrible
• 15:18
  situations
• 15:19
  time
• 15:19
  and
• 15:19
  time
• 15:19
  again,
• 15:20
  he
• 15:20
  was.
• 15:21
  I
• 15:21
  don't
• 15:22
  want
• 15:22
  to
• 15:22
  say
• 15:22
  that
• 15:22
  he
• 15:22
  was,
• 15:22
  like,
• 15:23
  a
• 15:23
  good
• 15:23
  boy
• 15:23
  by
• 15:24
  any
• 15:24
  stresses.
• 15:25
  Yeah,
• 15:26
  we'll
• 15:26
  leave
• 15:26
  it
• 15:26
  at
• 15:26
  that.
• 15:26
  Was
• 15:26
  a
• 15:26
  pretty
• 15:27
  good
• 15:27
  guy,
• 15:27
  but
• 15:28
  wasn't
• 15:28
  easy.
• 15:29
  It
• 15:29
  was
• 15:29
  his
• 15:29
  work
• 15:29
  ethic
• 15:30
  that
• 15:30
  also
• 15:30
  kind
• 15:31
  of
• 15:31
  was,
• 15:31
  like,
• 15:32
  inspiring
• 15:32
  as
• 15:33
  well,
• 15:33
  because
• 15:33
  this
• 15:33
  guy
• 15:34
  works
• 15:34
  harder
• 15:34
  than
• 15:35
  90
• 15:35
  of
• 15:36
  the
• 15:36
  people.
• 15:36
  Maybe
• 15:36
  95.
• 15:38
  I
• 15:38
  gotta.
• 15:38
  I
• 15:38
  gotta.
• 15:38
  I
• 15:39
  gotta
• 15:39
  pick
• 15:39
  up
• 15:39
  another
• 15:39
  10
• 15:40
  then,
• 15:40
  man.
• 15:40
  No,
• 15:41
  no,
• 15:41
  95.
• 15:41
  95.
• 15:42
  But
• 15:42
  it's.
• 15:43
  I
• 15:43
  appreciate
• 15:44
  that.
• 15:44
  No,
• 15:44
  of
• 15:44
  course.
• 15:45
  But
• 15:45
  it's.
• 15:45
  It's
• 15:46
  part
• 15:46
  of
• 15:48
  this
• 15:48
  whole
• 15:49
  journey.
• 15:49
  It
• 15:49
  was.
• 15:50
  It
• 15:50
  wasn't
• 15:50
  even,
• 15:50
  like.
• 15:51
  I
• 15:51
  didn't
• 15:51
  give
• 15:51
  it
• 15:51
  much
• 15:52
  thought
• 15:52
  because
• 15:53
  I.
• 15:54
  I
• 15:54
  knew
• 15:54
  where
• 15:54
  he
• 15:55
  wanted
• 15:55
  to
• 15:55
  go.
• 15:55
  I
• 15:56
  just
• 15:56
  wanted
• 15:56
  to
• 15:56
  help.
• 15:56
  That
• 15:57
  was
• 15:57
  pretty
• 15:57
  much
• 15:57
  it.
• 15:57
  And
• 15:58
  you
• 15:58
  were
• 15:58
  a
• 15:58
  great
• 15:58
  supporter
• 15:59
  the
• 15:59
  whole
• 15:59
  time.
• 16:00
  I
• 16:00
  started
• 16:00
  off,
• 16:01
  I
• 16:01
  picked
• 16:02
  up
• 16:02
  bass
• 16:02
  a
• 16:03
  little
• 16:03
  later
• 16:03
  in
• 16:03
  life,
• 16:04
  or
• 16:04
  at
• 16:04
  least,
• 16:04
  you
• 16:05
  know,
• 16:05
  how
• 16:05
  old
• 16:06
  were
• 16:06
  you?
• 16:06
  I
• 16:06
  picked
• 16:06
  up
• 16:06
  bass
• 16:07
  in
• 16:07
  my
• 16:07
  early
• 16:07
  20s.
• 16:07
  I
• 16:07
  started
• 16:08
  working
• 16:08
  pretty
• 16:09
  late.
• 16:09
  And
• 16:09
  you're
• 16:09
  really
• 16:09
  good
• 16:10
  now.
• 16:10
  Yeah.
• 16:10
  So
• 16:11
  I
• 16:11
  started
• 16:11
  working
• 16:11
  with
• 16:11
  a
• 16:11
  lot
• 16:12
  of
• 16:12
  different
• 16:12
  artists.
• 16:13
  I
• 16:14
  actually
• 16:14
  felt
• 16:15
  like
• 16:15
  I
• 16:15
  climbed
• 16:15
  the
• 16:16
  ranks.
• 16:16
  I
• 16:16
  don't
• 16:16
  want
• 16:17
  to
• 16:17
  say
• 16:17
  ranks,
• 16:17
  but
• 16:17
  I.
• 16:18
  I
• 16:18
  networked
• 16:19
  pretty
• 16:19
  well,
• 16:19
  and
• 16:19
  I
• 16:20
  met
• 16:20
  a
• 16:20
  lot
• 16:20
  of
• 16:20
  people
• 16:20
  and
• 16:21
  got
• 16:21
  a
• 16:21
  lot
• 16:21
  of
• 16:21
  good
• 16:21
  work,
• 16:22
  probably
• 16:23
  quicker
• 16:23
  than
• 16:23
  I
• 16:23
  should
• 16:24
  have.
• 16:24
  I
• 16:25
  wasn't
• 16:25
  afraid
• 16:25
  to
• 16:26
  embarrass
• 16:26
  myself.
• 16:27
  So
• 16:27
  a
• 16:27
  lot
• 16:27
  of
• 16:27
  times
• 16:27
  I
• 16:27
  said
• 16:28
  yes
• 16:28
  when
• 16:28
  I
• 16:28
  was
• 16:28
  definitely
• 16:29
  not
• 16:30
  ready,
• 16:30
  mentally,
• 16:31
  at
• 16:31
  least.
• 16:31
  My
• 16:32
  playing
• 16:32
  probably
• 16:32
  wasn't
• 16:33
  where
• 16:33
  it
• 16:33
  could
• 16:33
  have
• 16:34
  been
• 16:34
  or
• 16:34
  compared
• 16:34
  to
• 16:35
  at
• 16:35
  least
• 16:35
  some
• 16:35
  other
• 16:35
  people
• 16:36
  that
• 16:37
  I
• 16:37
  would
• 16:37
  compare
• 16:37
  myself
• 16:38
  to
• 16:38
  in
• 16:38
  the
• 16:38
  same
• 16:38
  circle.
• 16:39
  But
• 16:39
  I
• 16:40
  was
• 16:40
  okay
• 16:40
  with
• 16:40
  doing
• 16:40
  that,
• 16:40
  and
• 16:41
  a
• 16:41
  lot
• 16:41
  of
• 16:42
  opportunities
• 16:42
  came
• 16:43
  from
• 16:43
  playing.
• 16:44
  But
• 16:44
  I
• 16:45
  say
• 16:45
  that
• 16:45
  because
• 16:45
  the
• 16:45
  whole
• 16:46
  time,
• 16:46
  Jericho
• 16:46
  supported
• 16:47
  me.
• 16:48
  He
• 16:48
  wasn't
• 16:48
  a
• 16:48
  part
• 16:48
  of
• 16:49
  the
• 16:49
  work
• 16:50
  directly
• 16:50
  at
• 16:50
  that
• 16:51
  point,
• 16:51
  but
• 16:52
  the
• 16:52
  support
• 16:53
  definitely
• 16:54
  helped
• 16:55
  me
• 16:55
  through
• 16:55
  with
• 16:55
  a
• 16:55
  lot
• 16:55
  of
• 16:56
  the
• 16:56
  decisions
• 16:56
  and
• 16:57
  aiming
• 16:57
  to
• 16:57
  be
• 16:57
  better.
• 16:58
  So
• 16:59
  I
• 16:59
  appreciate
• 16:59
  that.
• 16:59
  Dope.
• 17:00
  Just
• 17:00
  keep
• 17:00
  going.
• 17:01
  I
• 17:01
  had
• 17:01
  no
• 17:01
  idea.
• 17:02
  I
• 17:02
  thought
• 17:02
  you've
• 17:02
  been
• 17:02
  playing
• 17:02
  since
• 17:03
  you
• 17:03
  were,
• 17:03
  like,
• 17:03
  12.
• 17:04
  When
• 17:04
  you
• 17:04
  brought
• 17:05
  your
• 17:05
  bass
• 17:05
  in
• 17:05
  and
• 17:05
  just
• 17:05
  played
• 17:05
  around.
• 17:06
  I
• 17:06
  was
• 17:06
  like,
• 17:06
  okay,
• 17:07
  clearly
• 17:07
  this
• 17:07
  guy
• 17:07
  knows
• 17:07
  what
• 17:08
  he's
• 17:08
  doing.
• 17:08
  Yeah,
• 17:09
  it's
• 17:10
  him
• 17:10
  and
• 17:10
  my
• 17:10
  brother
• 17:11
  just
• 17:11
  watching
• 17:11
  them
• 17:11
  jump.
• 17:14
  Can
• 17:14
  I
• 17:14
  ask
• 17:14
  you,
• 17:14
  like,
• 17:15
  more
• 17:15
  origin
• 17:15
  DNA
• 17:16
  Questions?
• 17:16
  Sure,
• 17:16
  please.
• 17:17
  For
• 17:17
  sure.
• 17:18
  As
• 17:18
  I
• 17:18
  see
• 17:19
  it
• 17:19
  right
• 17:19
  now,
• 17:19
  the
• 17:20
  DNA
• 17:20
  project
• 17:21
  is
• 17:22
  basically
• 17:23
  like
• 17:23
  a
• 17:23
  front
• 17:23
  and
• 17:24
  back
• 17:24
  line
• 17:25
  finished
• 17:26
  product.
• 17:26
  Right.
• 17:26
  If
• 17:27
  you.
• 17:27
  Whether
• 17:27
  you
• 17:28
  need
• 17:28
  players
• 17:29
  or
• 17:29
  backline,
• 17:30
  as
• 17:30
  in
• 17:30
  like
• 17:30
  amps
• 17:31
  or
• 17:31
  instruments
• 17:31
  or
• 17:32
  like
• 17:32
  anything
• 17:32
  to
• 17:32
  do
• 17:32
  with
• 17:33
  that,
• 17:33
  you
• 17:33
  guys
• 17:33
  basically
• 17:34
  cover.
• 17:34
  You're
• 17:34
  sort
• 17:34
  of
• 17:35
  multifaceted
• 17:35
  in
• 17:35
  the
• 17:36
  same
• 17:36
  way
• 17:36
  that
• 17:36
  we
• 17:36
  try
• 17:36
  to
• 17:36
  be.
• 17:37
  Is
• 17:37
  that
• 17:37
  you
• 17:38
  cover
• 17:38
  everything
• 17:38
  in
• 17:38
  that
• 17:38
  world.
• 17:39
  It
• 17:40
  couldn't
• 17:40
  have
• 17:40
  started
• 17:40
  like
• 17:41
  that.
• 17:41
  Right.
• 17:41
  What
• 17:42
  did
• 17:42
  you
• 17:42
  guys
• 17:42
  do
• 17:42
  in
• 17:42
  the
• 17:42
  beginning?
• 17:43
  That's
• 17:43
  a
• 17:43
  great
• 17:43
  question.
• 17:43
  That
• 17:44
  is
• 17:44
  a
• 17:44
  good
• 17:44
  question.
• 17:44
  It
• 17:45
  actually
• 17:45
  started
• 17:45
  off.
• 17:46
  My
• 17:46
  intention
• 17:47
  originally
• 17:48
  was
• 17:48
  just
• 17:48
  to
• 17:48
  have
• 17:49
  a
• 17:49
  video
• 17:49
  project.
• 17:50
  I
• 17:51
  thought
• 17:51
  about
• 17:52
  featuring
• 17:54
  Canadian
• 17:54
  talent
• 17:55
  in
• 17:55
  the
• 17:55
  same
• 17:55
  way
• 17:56
  that
• 17:56
  we
• 17:56
  want
• 17:56
  to
• 17:56
  do
• 17:56
  with
• 17:56
  this
• 17:57
  podcast.
• 17:58
  Just
• 17:58
  by
• 17:58
  doing
• 17:59
  videos,
• 17:59
  live
• 17:59
  performances
• 18:01
  with
• 18:01
  different
• 18:01
  people.
• 18:02
  That
• 18:03
  was
• 18:03
  the
• 18:03
  original
• 18:03
  idea.
• 18:04
  We
• 18:04
  did
• 18:04
  one
• 18:04
  video
• 18:05
  and
• 18:06
  I
• 18:06
  started
• 18:06
  getting
• 18:08
  a
• 18:08
  good
• 18:08
  amount
• 18:08
  of
• 18:09
  what
• 18:09
  kind
• 18:09
  of
• 18:09
  video.
• 18:09
  Oh,
• 18:10
  sorry.
• 18:10
  Yeah,
• 18:10
  I
• 18:10
  should
• 18:10
  break
• 18:11
  that
• 18:11
  down
• 18:11
  a
• 18:11
  little
• 18:11
  further.
• 18:12
  So
• 18:12
  the
• 18:12
  video
• 18:12
  that
• 18:12
  we
• 18:12
  did
• 18:13
  was
• 18:13
  a
• 18:13
  cover
• 18:13
  video.
• 18:14
  We
• 18:14
  did
• 18:15
  a
• 18:15
  music
• 18:15
  Soul
• 18:16
  Child
• 18:16
  and
• 18:16
  Robert
• 18:17
  Glasper
• 18:17
  song.
• 18:18
  And
• 18:18
  I
• 18:19
  had
• 18:19
  intended
• 18:19
  to
• 18:20
  kind
• 18:20
  of
• 18:20
  just
• 18:21
  cover
• 18:21
  songs
• 18:21
  that
• 18:22
  weren't
• 18:22
  exactly
• 18:23
  mainstream,
• 18:23
  that
• 18:23
  just
• 18:23
  had
• 18:24
  like
• 18:24
  that
• 18:24
  I
• 18:24
  really
• 18:25
  liked
• 18:25
  musically.
• 18:27
  But
• 18:27
  from
• 18:27
  that
• 18:28
  cover,
• 18:28
  we
• 18:28
  ended
• 18:28
  up
• 18:28
  getting
• 18:29
  calls
• 18:29
  for
• 18:29
  live
• 18:29
  performances.
• 18:31
  And
• 18:31
  that
• 18:32
  was
• 18:32
  kind
• 18:32
  of
• 18:32
  the
• 18:32
  birth
• 18:33
  of
• 18:33
  the
• 18:33
  DNA
• 18:33
  project
• 18:34
  as
• 18:34
  we
• 18:35
  now
• 18:35
  know
• 18:35
  it.
• 18:36
  It
• 18:36
  was
• 18:36
  just
• 18:36
  a
• 18:36
  few
• 18:37
  of
• 18:37
  us,
• 18:37
  so
• 18:37
  it
• 18:37
  was
• 18:37
  myself,
• 18:38
  a
• 18:38
  keyboard
• 18:39
  player,
• 18:39
  Daniel
• 18:39
  Cowens,
• 18:40
  a
• 18:40
  flute
• 18:41
  player,
• 18:41
  Jeff
• 18:41
  Kearns.
• 18:42
  And
• 18:43
  that
• 18:43
  was
• 18:44
  going
• 18:44
  to
• 18:44
  be
• 18:44
  the.
• 18:44
  That
• 18:45
  was
• 18:45
  the
• 18:45
  core
• 18:45
  of
• 18:45
  the
• 18:46
  band.
• 18:46
  From
• 18:47
  there
• 18:47
  we
• 18:47
  would
• 18:47
  work
• 18:47
  with
• 18:47
  different
• 18:48
  drummers
• 18:48
  and
• 18:48
  such.
• 18:50
  And
• 18:50
  then
• 18:50
  once
• 18:50
  we
• 18:51
  started
• 18:51
  getting
• 18:51
  the
• 18:51
  calls,
• 18:52
  we
• 18:53
  started
• 18:53
  working
• 18:53
  with
• 18:53
  more
• 18:54
  and
• 18:54
  more
• 18:54
  musicians
• 18:54
  and
• 18:55
  the
• 18:55
  networking
• 18:55
  continued
• 18:56
  that
• 18:56
  way.
• 18:57
  And
• 18:57
  then
• 18:57
  I
• 18:58
  started
• 18:58
  to
• 18:58
  see
• 18:58
  that
• 18:58
  was
• 18:59
  a
• 18:59
  real
• 18:59
  opportunity
• 19:00
  for
• 19:00
  us
• 19:00
  to
• 19:01
  facilitate
• 19:01
  more
• 19:02
  work.
• 19:02
  And
• 19:03
  I
• 19:03
  figured
• 19:03
  if
• 19:03
  we
• 19:04
  keep
• 19:04
  pushing
• 19:04
  it,
• 19:04
  the
• 19:05
  sky's
• 19:05
  the
• 19:05
  limit.
• 19:06
  So
• 19:06
  that's.
• 19:07
  That's
• 19:07
  how
• 19:08
  we
• 19:08
  started.
• 19:08
  And
• 19:08
  you
• 19:09
  guys
• 19:09
  do
• 19:09
  session
• 19:09
  music
• 19:09
  too,
• 19:10
  right?
• 19:10
  We
• 19:10
  do
• 19:11
  session
• 19:11
  music
• 19:11
  as
• 19:11
  well.
• 19:12
  A
• 19:12
  lot
• 19:12
  of
• 19:12
  the
• 19:12
  players
• 19:13
  that
• 19:13
  we
• 19:13
  work
• 19:13
  with,
• 19:14
  of
• 19:14
  course,
• 19:14
  can't.
• 19:15
  I
• 19:15
  shouldn't
• 19:16
  say
• 19:16
  can't.
• 19:16
  Don't
• 19:17
  rely
• 19:17
  solely
• 19:17
  on
• 19:18
  live.
• 19:18
  So
• 19:19
  the
• 19:19
  session
• 19:19
  music
• 19:20
  is
• 19:20
  a
• 19:20
  big
• 19:20
  part
• 19:20
  of
• 19:20
  what
• 19:20
  we
• 19:21
  do
• 19:21
  as
• 19:21
  well.
• 19:22
  For
• 19:22
  sure.
• 19:23
  Yeah.
• 19:23
  It's
• 19:23
  a
• 19:23
  fun
• 19:24
  experience
• 19:24
  too
• 19:25
  for
• 19:25
  musicians
• 19:26
  compared
• 19:26
  to
• 19:27
  always
• 19:27
  being
• 19:27
  on
• 19:27
  stage.
• 19:28
  Exactly.
• 19:29
  Yeah.
• 19:31
  And
• 19:31
  we've
• 19:31
  done
• 19:31
  some
• 19:31
  pretty
• 19:32
  cool
• 19:32
  projects.
• 19:32
  I
• 19:32
  mean,
• 19:33
  this
• 19:33
  year
• 19:33
  had
• 19:33
  shaped
• 19:34
  up
• 19:34
  to
• 19:34
  be
• 19:36
  one
• 19:36
  of
• 19:36
  the
• 19:36
  most
• 19:37
  fun
• 19:37
  years
• 19:37
  as
• 19:37
  far
• 19:37
  as
• 19:38
  just
• 19:38
  some
• 19:38
  different
• 19:39
  opportunities
• 19:39
  that
• 19:40
  have
• 19:40
  come
• 19:40
  up.
• 19:41
  Yeah.
• 19:42
  Just
• 19:42
  as
• 19:42
  far
• 19:42
  as
• 19:43
  traveling,
• 19:44
  we
• 19:45
  did
• 19:45
  a
• 19:45
  couple
• 19:45
  shows
• 19:46
  across
• 19:46
  Canada
• 19:47
  with
• 19:47
  a
• 19:48
  20
• 19:48
  piece
• 19:48
  band.
• 19:49
  So
• 19:49
  we've
• 19:50
  definitely
• 19:50
  scaled
• 19:51
  it
• 19:51
  up
• 19:51
  a
• 19:51
  lot
• 19:51
  from
• 19:52
  our.
• 19:52
  I'll
• 19:53
  say
• 19:53
  Humble
• 19:53
  beginnings.
• 19:54
  Yeah.
• 19:55
  But
• 19:55
  I
• 19:55
  actually
• 19:56
  want
• 19:56
  to
• 19:56
  backtrack
• 19:56
  on
• 19:56
  that
• 19:57
  because
• 19:57
  we
• 19:57
  were
• 19:57
  speaking
• 19:57
  about
• 19:58
  Doriki,
• 19:59
  how
• 19:59
  we
• 20:00
  started
• 20:00
  working
• 20:01
  together.
• 20:01
  Yeah.
• 20:02
  And
• 20:03
  I
• 20:03
  remember
• 20:03
  a
• 20:04
  few
• 20:04
  years
• 20:04
  ago,
• 20:04
  maybe
• 20:05
  three
• 20:05
  years
• 20:05
  ago,
• 20:05
  when
• 20:06
  we
• 20:06
  did
• 20:06
  a.
• 20:06
  You
• 20:07
  helped
• 20:07
  out
• 20:07
  with
• 20:08
  some
• 20:08
  ideas
• 20:08
  to
• 20:08
  put
• 20:09
  shows
• 20:09
  together
• 20:09
  in
• 20:09
  Hamilton,
• 20:11
  and
• 20:12
  from
• 20:12
  your
• 20:12
  position
• 20:13
  as
• 20:14
  helping
• 20:14
  with
• 20:15
  the.
• 20:15
  I
• 20:15
  guess,
• 20:16
  the
• 20:16
  formation
• 20:16
  of
• 20:16
  the
• 20:17
  shows,
• 20:17
  you
• 20:18
  were
• 20:18
  kind
• 20:18
  of
• 20:18
  our
• 20:19
  street
• 20:19
  guy.
• 20:19
  So
• 20:19
  you're
• 20:20
  hitting
• 20:20
  the
• 20:20
  streets,
• 20:20
  you're
• 20:21
  going
• 20:21
  to
• 20:21
  the
• 20:21
  university
• 20:22
  with
• 20:23
  flyers,
• 20:23
  you're
• 20:23
  talking
• 20:24
  with
• 20:24
  people.
• 20:25
  But
• 20:26
  I
• 20:26
  never
• 20:26
  forgot
• 20:26
  that
• 20:27
  we.
• 20:27
  When
• 20:27
  we
• 20:27
  grew
• 20:28
  up,
• 20:28
  you
• 20:28
  used
• 20:28
  to
• 20:28
  sing.
• 20:29
  We
• 20:29
  were
• 20:29
  back.
• 20:30
  Was
• 20:30
  at
• 20:30
  the
• 20:30
  church
• 20:31
  at
• 20:31
  the.
• 20:31
  At
• 20:31
  the
• 20:31
  time.
• 20:32
  Yeah.
• 20:32
  And
• 20:32
  I
• 20:32
  never
• 20:33
  let
• 20:33
  that
• 20:33
  go.
• 20:33
  So
• 20:34
  when
• 20:34
  it
• 20:34
  came
• 20:34
  time
• 20:35
  to
• 20:35
  do
• 20:35
  these
• 20:35
  shows,
• 20:35
  I
• 20:36
  was
• 20:36
  like,
• 20:36
  well,
• 20:36
  if
• 20:36
  we're
• 20:37
  going
• 20:37
  to
• 20:37
  be
• 20:37
  doing
• 20:38
  a
• 20:38
  showcase
• 20:38
  with
• 20:39
  local
• 20:39
  talent,
• 20:40
  then
• 20:40
  D's
• 20:41
  got
• 20:41
  to
• 20:41
  sing.
• 20:41
  Yeah.
• 20:42
  And
• 20:43
  I
• 20:43
  mean,
• 20:44
  I
• 20:45
  don't
• 20:45
  know
• 20:45
  if
• 20:45
  we've
• 20:45
  ever
• 20:45
  talked
• 20:46
  off
• 20:46
  mic
• 20:46
  about
• 20:47
  that,
• 20:47
  but
• 20:48
  when
• 20:48
  you
• 20:49
  did
• 20:49
  that,
• 20:50
  my
• 20:51
  instant
• 20:51
  reaction
• 20:52
  was,
• 20:53
  no.
• 20:53
  You
• 20:54
  know,
• 20:54
  and
• 20:54
  I've
• 20:55
  always
• 20:55
  been
• 20:55
  that
• 20:56
  way,
• 20:56
  was,
• 20:56
  no,
• 20:56
  no,
• 20:56
  no,
• 20:57
  no,
• 20:57
  no,
• 20:57
  no,
• 20:57
  no.
• 20:58
  But
• 20:59
  because
• 21:00
  I
• 21:00
  never
• 21:00
  thought
• 21:00
  that
• 21:01
  I
• 21:01
  could
• 21:01
  actually
• 21:01
  sing
• 21:02
  as
• 21:02
  well.
• 21:02
  And
• 21:03
  he's
• 21:03
  been
• 21:03
  my
• 21:03
  closest
• 21:04
  friend,
• 21:04
  so.
• 21:04
  Your
• 21:04
  closest
• 21:04
  friend
• 21:05
  telling
• 21:05
  you
• 21:05
  to
• 21:05
  sing.
• 21:06
  It's
• 21:06
  like,
• 21:06
  come
• 21:06
  on.
• 21:06
  You
• 21:07
  know,
• 21:07
  And
• 21:08
  I've
• 21:08
  always
• 21:08
  had
• 21:08
  this.
• 21:08
  Like,
• 21:09
  issue
• 21:09
  with
• 21:09
  your
• 21:09
  closest
• 21:10
  friend
• 21:10
  who's
• 21:10
  a
• 21:10
  musician.
• 21:11
  If
• 21:11
  just
• 21:11
  some
• 21:11
  random
• 21:11
  friends,
• 21:12
  like,
• 21:12
  you
• 21:12
  should
• 21:12
  sing
• 21:12
  on
• 21:12
  stage,
• 21:13
  don't
• 21:13
  listen
• 21:13
  to
• 21:14
  them.
• 21:14
  Right.
• 21:15
  And
• 21:15
  that's
• 21:15
  kind
• 21:16
  of
• 21:16
  where
• 21:16
  my
• 21:16
  deciding
• 21:17
  is.
• 21:17
  Like,
• 21:17
  he's
• 21:18
  a
• 21:18
  musician
• 21:18
  that,
• 21:18
  like.
• 21:18
  And
• 21:19
  I'm
• 21:19
  representing
• 21:20
  the
• 21:20
  company.
• 21:20
  I
• 21:21
  don't
• 21:21
  want
• 21:21
  to
• 21:21
  put
• 21:22
  the
• 21:22
  company,
• 21:22
  like,
• 21:22
  this
• 21:23
  is
• 21:23
  the
• 21:23
  talent
• 21:23
  you're
• 21:23
  bringing.
• 21:24
  So,
• 21:24
  I
• 21:25
  mean,
• 21:25
  I
• 21:25
  struggle.
• 21:25
  And
• 21:26
  I
• 21:26
  have
• 21:26
  a.
• 21:27
  I
• 21:27
  had
• 21:28
  a
• 21:28
  real
• 21:28
  issue
• 21:29
  with,
• 21:29
  like,
• 21:30
  stage
• 21:30
  fright,
• 21:30
  like,
• 21:31
  going
• 21:31
  on
• 21:31
  stage
• 21:32
  and
• 21:32
  singing
• 21:32
  in
• 21:32
  front
• 21:32
  of
• 21:33
  people.
• 21:33
  Being
• 21:33
  that
• 21:33
  vulnerable.
• 21:34
  I
• 21:35
  had
• 21:35
  an
• 21:35
  idea
• 21:35
  that
• 21:36
  I
• 21:36
  could
• 21:36
  sing,
• 21:36
  but
• 21:37
  just
• 21:37
  going
• 21:37
  out
• 21:38
  and
• 21:38
  doing
• 21:38
  that
• 21:38
  to
• 21:38
  people
• 21:38
  and
• 21:39
  being
• 21:39
  that
• 21:39
  vulnerable
• 21:40
  was
• 21:40
  really
• 21:40
  weird
• 21:40
  to
• 21:41
  me.
• 21:42
  And.
• 21:43
  But
• 21:44
  when
• 21:44
  he
• 21:44
  said
• 21:44
  it,
• 21:45
  I
• 21:45
  don't
• 21:46
  know
• 21:46
  why,
• 21:46
  I
• 21:46
  just
• 21:46
  said
• 21:47
  fine.
• 21:47
  And
• 21:47
  every
• 21:48
  time
• 21:48
  he
• 21:48
  said
• 21:48
  it,
• 21:49
  I've
• 21:49
  said
• 21:49
  fine.
• 21:50
  Never
• 21:50
  stopped.
• 21:51
  And
• 21:51
  it's.
• 21:51
  Yeah.
• 21:51
  And
• 21:51
  it's
• 21:52
  always
• 21:52
  just
• 21:52
  been
• 21:53
  a.
• 21:54
  A
• 21:54
  great
• 21:54
  experience
• 21:55
  for
• 21:55
  me,
• 21:55
  but
• 21:55
  not
• 21:56
  one
• 21:56
  I
• 21:56
  would
• 21:56
  have
• 21:56
  taken.
• 21:56
  Like,
• 21:57
  if
• 21:57
  there
• 21:57
  was
• 21:57
  a
• 21:57
  flyer
• 21:58
  looking
• 21:58
  for
• 21:59
  singers
• 21:59
  for
• 21:59
  this
• 21:59
  community
• 22:00
  show,
• 22:01
  I
• 22:01
  would
• 22:01
  never
• 22:01
  sign
• 22:02
  up.
• 22:02
  I
• 22:02
  would
• 22:02
  never,
• 22:03
  ever,
• 22:03
  ever.
• 22:03
  Sure.
• 22:04
  It
• 22:04
  was
• 22:04
  a
• 22:04
  massive
• 22:04
  show.
• 22:05
  To
• 22:05
  be
• 22:05
  honest
• 22:05
  with
• 22:06
  you.
• 22:06
  When
• 22:06
  you
• 22:06
  told
• 22:06
  me
• 22:06
  you're
• 22:07
  doing
• 22:07
  that.
• 22:08
  Only
• 22:08
  because
• 22:09
  I
• 22:09
  knew
• 22:09
  that
• 22:09
  you
• 22:10
  haven't
• 22:10
  performed,
• 22:10
  you
• 22:10
  haven't
• 22:11
  done
• 22:11
  any.
• 22:11
  They're
• 22:11
  like,
• 22:11
  oh,
• 22:11
  I'm
• 22:11
  doing
• 22:12
  a
• 22:12
  Dre
• 22:12
  thing.
• 22:12
  I
• 22:12
  Was
• 22:12
  like,
• 22:12
  yeah,
• 22:12
  yeah,
• 22:13
  that's.
• 22:13
  That's.
• 22:13
  I
• 22:13
  mean,
• 22:13
  that's
• 22:13
  cute,
• 22:14
  but
• 22:14
  what
• 22:14
  is
• 22:15
  it
• 22:15
  gonna
• 22:15
  be?
• 22:15
  I'll
• 22:15
  come
• 22:16
  to
• 22:16
  the
• 22:16
  show.
• 22:16
  That
• 22:16
  came
• 22:16
  later,
• 22:16
  actually.
• 22:17
  Way
• 22:18
  later.
• 22:18
  Oh,
• 22:18
  later.
• 22:19
  Yeah.
• 22:19
  So
• 22:19
  the
• 22:19
  show
• 22:19
  that
• 22:19
  I'm
• 22:20
  actually
• 22:20
  referring
• 22:20
  to
• 22:20
  was
• 22:21
  2018.
• 22:22
  Yeah.
• 22:22
  We
• 22:22
  did
• 22:23
  a.
• 22:23
  It
• 22:23
  was
• 22:24
  smaller
• 22:24
  scale
• 22:24
  for
• 22:24
  sure.
• 22:25
  So,
• 22:25
  I
• 22:25
  mean,
• 22:25
  we
• 22:25
  sold
• 22:25
  out
• 22:26
  the
• 22:26
  venue
• 22:26
  at
• 22:27
  about
• 22:27
  150
• 22:27
  people.
• 22:28
  So,
• 22:28
  I
• 22:28
  mean,
• 22:29
  even
• 22:29
  that
• 22:29
  as,
• 22:29
  like,
• 22:30
  a
• 22:30
  first
• 22:30
  time,
• 22:30
  that's
• 22:31
  pretty
• 22:31
  overwhelming
• 22:31
  still.
• 22:32
  And
• 22:33
  you're
• 22:33
  playing
• 22:33
  with
• 22:33
  musicians
• 22:34
  that
• 22:34
  are
• 22:34
  professional,
• 22:35
  pretty
• 22:35
  seasoned.
• 22:36
  Right.
• 22:36
  On
• 22:36
  a
• 22:36
  level,
• 22:36
  you
• 22:36
  know.
• 22:37
  Yeah.
• 22:38
  So
• 22:38
  one
• 22:39
  of
• 22:39
  my
• 22:39
  things
• 22:39
  is
• 22:39
  to
• 22:39
  always
• 22:40
  work
• 22:40
  with
• 22:40
  musicians
• 22:41
  that
• 22:41
  are
• 22:42
  better
• 22:42
  than
• 22:42
  myself.
• 22:44
  So
• 22:44
  I've
• 22:44
  been
• 22:44
  able
• 22:45
  to.
• 22:45
  I've
• 22:45
  been
• 22:45
  fortunate
• 22:46
  to
• 22:46
  surround
• 22:46
  myself
• 22:46
  with
• 22:46
  people
• 22:47
  who
• 22:48
  play
• 22:48
  at
• 22:48
  a
• 22:48
  higher
• 22:48
  level
• 22:49
  than
• 22:49
  myself.
• 22:49
  And
• 22:50
  then
• 22:50
  I
• 22:50
  threw
• 22:50
  Drakey
• 22:51
  into
• 22:51
  that.
• 22:52
  Yeah.
• 22:52
  So
• 22:53
  poor
• 22:53
  amateur
• 22:54
  who's
• 22:54
  barely
• 22:54
  performed
• 22:55
  has
• 22:55
  to
• 22:56
  go
• 22:56
  on
• 22:56
  stage
• 22:56
  in
• 22:56
  front
• 22:57
  of
• 22:57
  150
• 22:58
  people.
• 22:58
  And
• 23:00
  professional,
• 23:01
  good
• 23:02
  music,
• 23:02
  like,
• 23:02
  really,
• 23:02
  really
• 23:03
  professional
• 23:03
  musicians,
• 23:04
  was
• 23:04
  a
• 23:05
  little
• 23:05
  bit
• 23:05
  of
• 23:05
  a
• 23:07
  challenge
• 23:07
  for.
• 23:07
  Not
• 23:07
  a
• 23:08
  little
• 23:08
  bit.
• 23:08
  It
• 23:08
  was
• 23:08
  a
• 23:08
  really,
• 23:08
  really
• 23:09
  big
• 23:09
  challenge
• 23:09
  that
• 23:09
  very
• 23:10
  first
• 23:10
  time.
• 23:10
  Well,
• 23:10
  you
• 23:10
  put
• 23:11
  the
• 23:11
  work
• 23:11
  into
• 23:11
  it.
• 23:11
  It's
• 23:11
  not
• 23:12
  like
• 23:12
  a.
• 23:12
  Just
• 23:13
  a
• 23:13
  random
• 23:14
  one
• 23:14
  of
• 23:14
  those.
• 23:15
  I
• 23:15
  put
• 23:15
  my
• 23:15
  heart
• 23:15
  and
• 23:16
  soul
• 23:16
  into
• 23:16
  it.
• 23:16
  American
• 23:16
  Idol
• 23:17
  stories.
• 23:18
  It
• 23:18
  was
• 23:18
  great.
• 23:18
  No,
• 23:19
  you
• 23:19
  practice.
• 23:20
  Yeah.
• 23:21
  Practice
• 23:21
  and
• 23:21
  practice.
• 23:22
  And
• 23:22
  I
• 23:22
  saw
• 23:22
  you
• 23:22
  for
• 23:23
  the
• 23:23
  later
• 23:23
  show,
• 23:23
  you
• 23:23
  would
• 23:24
  come
• 23:24
  here
• 23:24
  and
• 23:24
  you
• 23:25
  would
• 23:25
  have
• 23:25
  the
• 23:25
  lines
• 23:26
  printed,
• 23:26
  and
• 23:26
  you'd
• 23:26
  listen
• 23:27
  to
• 23:27
  it
• 23:27
  again
• 23:27
  and
• 23:27
  again
• 23:27
  and
• 23:28
  again
• 23:28
  and
• 23:28
  again.
• 23:28
  Record
• 23:28
  yourself.
• 23:29
  Right.
• 23:29
  It
• 23:29
  doesn't
• 23:30
  just
• 23:30
  come
• 23:30
  out
• 23:30
  of
• 23:30
  nowhere.
• 23:30
  Yeah.
• 23:31
  And
• 23:31
  because
• 23:32
  being
• 23:32
  surrounded
• 23:33
  by
• 23:33
  professionals,
• 23:33
  it's
• 23:34
  hard
• 23:34
  to
• 23:34
  not
• 23:34
  want
• 23:34
  to
• 23:35
  be
• 23:35
  a
• 23:35
  professional
• 23:35
  yourself.
• 23:36
  And
• 23:36
  I
• 23:36
  don't
• 23:36
  know
• 23:36
  how,
• 23:36
  but
• 23:37
  I
• 23:37
  would
• 23:37
  just
• 23:37
  try
• 23:38
  my
• 23:38
  best
• 23:38
  to
• 23:38
  figure
• 23:39
  out
• 23:39
  what
• 23:39
  one.
• 23:40
  It's.
• 23:40
  Just
• 23:40
  keep
• 23:40
  practicing.
• 23:41
  Just
• 23:41
  keep
• 23:41
  singing
• 23:41
  the
• 23:41
  songs
• 23:42
  you're
• 23:42
  gonna
• 23:42
  perform.
• 23:42
  And
• 23:43
  that
• 23:43
  was
• 23:44
  one
• 23:44
  of
• 23:44
  the
• 23:45
  scariest
• 23:45
  moments.
• 23:45
  But
• 23:46
  one
• 23:46
  of
• 23:46
  the
• 23:46
  best
• 23:46
  things
• 23:46
  I
• 23:46
  ever
• 23:47
  did
• 23:47
  was
• 23:47
  listen
• 23:47
  to
• 23:48
  this
• 23:48
  man.
• 23:48
  So
• 23:49
  after
• 23:50
  seeing
• 23:50
  how
• 23:50
  he
• 23:51
  is,
• 23:51
  he's
• 23:51
  pushing
• 23:52
  me.
• 23:52
  It's
• 23:52
  like
• 23:52
  I'll
• 23:52
  follow
• 23:53
  him
• 23:53
  wherever
• 23:53
  he
• 23:53
  goes,
• 23:53
  you
• 23:54
  know?
• 23:54
  So
• 23:55
  I
• 23:56
  can't
• 23:56
  tell
• 23:56
  you
• 23:56
  how
• 23:56
  many
• 23:57
  times
• 23:57
  he's
• 23:57
  asked
• 23:57
  me
• 23:57
  to
• 23:58
  perform,
• 23:58
  but
• 23:58
  I've
• 23:58
  never
• 23:58
  said
• 23:59
  no.
• 23:59
  I
• 24:00
  don't
• 24:00
  think
• 24:00
  I've
• 24:00
  ever
• 24:00
  said
• 24:00
  no
• 24:01
  once.
• 24:01
  Nope.
• 24:02
  Nope.
• 24:02
  But
• 24:02
  it's
• 24:03
  always
• 24:03
  important
• 24:03
  for
• 24:03
  me
• 24:04
  to
• 24:04
  work
• 24:04
  with
• 24:04
  people
• 24:04
  that
• 24:04
  I
• 24:05
  have
• 24:05
  a
• 24:05
  real
• 24:05
  relationship
• 24:06
  with.
• 24:06
  Plus,
• 24:06
  Drake
• 24:07
  was
• 24:07
  busy.
• 24:08
  Drake
• 24:09
  wasn't
• 24:09
  answering
• 24:09
  my
• 24:09
  calls,
• 24:10
  to
• 24:10
  be
• 24:10
  honest.
• 24:11
  You
• 24:11
  got
• 24:12
  the
• 24:12
  understudy.
• 24:12
  Never
• 24:12
  fear.
• 24:13
  Duriki's
• 24:13
  here.
• 24:15
  Once
• 24:15
  again,
• 24:15
  he
• 24:16
  said
• 24:16
  no,
• 24:16
  though.
• 24:17
  You
• 24:17
  said
• 24:17
  no
• 24:17
  to
• 24:17
  that
• 24:18
  one.
• 24:18
  Did
• 24:18
  I?
• 24:18
  You
• 24:19
  said
• 24:19
  no,
• 24:19
  and
• 24:19
  I
• 24:20
  said
• 24:20
  yeah.
• 24:20
  And
• 24:21
  you're
• 24:21
  like,
• 24:21
  no.
• 24:22
  And
• 24:22
  I
• 24:22
  was
• 24:22
  like,
• 24:23
  yeah.
• 24:24
  I
• 24:24
  remember
• 24:24
  saying
• 24:25
  maybe.
• 24:26
  Yeah,
• 24:26
  yeah.
• 24:26
  It
• 24:26
  was
• 24:26
  a
• 24:27
  definite
• 24:27
  no.
• 24:28
  Hard
• 24:28
  no.
• 24:28
  It
• 24:28
  was
• 24:29
  a
• 24:29
  hard
• 24:29
  no.
• 24:30
  And
• 24:30
  it
• 24:30
  wasn't
• 24:30
  an
• 24:31
  easy
• 24:31
  sell.
• 24:31
  Trying
• 24:31
  to
• 24:32
  explain
• 24:32
  the
• 24:32
  scale
• 24:33
  of
• 24:33
  the
• 24:33
  show
• 24:33
  and
• 24:33
  the
• 24:34
  traveling
• 24:34
  and
• 24:35
  all
• 24:35
  that.
• 24:36
  But
• 24:36
  I
• 24:36
  mean,
• 24:36
  once
• 24:36
  you
• 24:37
  said
• 24:37
  yeah,
• 24:37
  you
• 24:37
  jumped
• 24:37
  in.
• 24:38
  I
• 24:38
  mean,
• 24:38
  your
• 24:38
  nose
• 24:38
  weren't.
• 24:39
  It
• 24:39
  was.
• 24:39
  It
• 24:39
  was
• 24:39
  the
• 24:39
  same
• 24:39
  day.
• 24:40
  It
• 24:40
  was
• 24:40
  a
• 24:40
  couple
• 24:40
  no's
• 24:40
  and
• 24:41
  then.
• 24:41
  Yeah,
• 24:41
  so.
• 24:43
  And
• 24:43
  you
• 24:43
  killed
• 24:43
  that
• 24:43
  show.
• 24:44
  A
• 24:44
  lot
• 24:44
  of
• 24:44
  people
• 24:45
  came
• 24:45
  out.
• 24:45
  If
• 24:45
  anyone
• 24:46
  missed
• 24:46
  it,
• 24:46
  we'll
• 24:46
  have
• 24:46
  to
• 24:46
  keep
• 24:47
  you
• 24:47
  posted
• 24:47
  on
• 24:47
  the
• 24:47
  next
• 24:47
  ones.
• 24:48
  But
• 24:48
  these
• 24:49
  shows
• 24:49
  went
• 24:49
  from
• 24:49
  150.
• 24:51
  Was
• 24:51
  that
• 24:51
  whenever
• 24:52
  shows
• 24:52
  happen
• 24:52
  again?
• 24:52
  Yeah,
• 24:53
  yeah,
• 24:53
  we're
• 24:53
  optimistic.
• 24:54
  But,
• 24:54
  yeah,
• 24:55
  we
• 24:55
  took
• 24:55
  you
• 24:55
  from
• 24:55
  like
• 24:56
  150
• 24:56
  people
• 24:57
  to
• 24:57
  now
• 24:57
  we're
• 24:58
  selling
• 24:58
  out
• 24:59
  upwards.
• 24:59
  Close
• 24:59
  to
• 25:00
  a
• 25:00
  thousand
• 25:00
  people
• 25:00
  at
• 25:00
  some
• 25:01
  of
• 25:01
  the
• 25:01
  shows.
• 25:01
  And
• 25:01
  I
• 25:01
  think
• 25:02
  the
• 25:02
  smallest
• 25:02
  one
• 25:02
  was
• 25:02
  probably
• 25:03
  750.
• 25:04
  Yeah.
• 25:05
  So
• 25:06
  that's
• 25:06
  kind
• 25:06
  of
• 25:06
  the
• 25:07
  story
• 25:07
  in
• 25:07
  a
• 25:07
  nutshell
• 25:08
  of
• 25:08
  our
• 25:08
  working
• 25:09
  experience.
• 25:09
  You've
• 25:10
  also
• 25:10
  been
• 25:10
  instrumental
• 25:11
  with
• 25:12
  DNA
• 25:13
  day
• 25:13
  to
• 25:13
  Day
• 25:14
  and
• 25:14
  of
• 25:14
  course
• 25:14
  here
• 25:14
  at
• 25:15
  the
• 25:15
  mpl.
• 25:15
  So
• 25:16
  you
• 25:16
  are.
• 25:17
  You
• 25:17
  are
• 25:17
  in
• 25:17
  the
• 25:17
  business
• 25:19
  and
• 25:19
  we
• 25:19
  appreciate
• 25:20
  you.
• 25:20
  Thanks.
• 25:21
  I
• 25:21
  mean,
• 25:21
  yeah,
• 25:22
  I
• 25:22
  appreciate.
• 25:23
  Speech
• 25:24
  that
• 25:24
  turned
• 25:24
  into
• 25:24
  a
• 25:25
  little
• 25:25
  drakey
• 25:25
  moment.
• 25:26
  I
• 25:26
  know.
• 25:26
  I
• 25:26
  appreciate
• 25:26
  it
• 25:26
  because
• 25:27
  you
• 25:27
  never
• 25:27
  say
• 25:27
  anything
• 25:27
  good
• 25:28
  about
• 25:28
  me.
• 25:28
  Was
• 25:28
  that
• 25:28
  your
• 25:28
  wedding
• 25:29
  toast
• 25:29
  that
• 25:29
  you
• 25:29
  just
• 25:29
  repeated?
• 25:30
  No,
• 25:30
  you
• 25:30
  know
• 25:30
  what?
• 25:31
  I
• 25:31
  didn't
• 25:31
  write
• 25:31
  the
• 25:31
  wedding
• 25:32
  toast
• 25:32
  down
• 25:32
  as
• 25:32
  well
• 25:33
  as
• 25:33
  I
• 25:33
  should
• 25:33
  have,
• 25:34
  so
• 25:34
  hopefully
• 25:34
  that
• 25:35
  made
• 25:35
  up
• 25:35
  for
• 25:35
  it.
• 25:35
  D.
• 25:36
  No,
• 25:36
  it
• 25:36
  was
• 25:36
  a
• 25:36
  great
• 25:36
  best
• 25:37
  man's
• 25:37
  speech.
• 25:37
  What
• 25:37
  are
• 25:37
  you
• 25:37
  talking
• 25:37
  about?
• 25:39
  Yeah,
• 25:39
  I
• 25:40
  forgot
• 25:40
  that
• 25:41
  you
• 25:41
  were
• 25:41
  the
• 25:41
  best
• 25:41
  man
• 25:41
  at
• 25:41
  my
• 25:42
  wedding
• 25:43
  weddings.
• 25:44
  I
• 25:44
  still
• 25:44
  have
• 25:44
  to
• 25:45
  have
• 25:45
  the
• 25:46
  sticker,
• 25:46
  the
• 25:46
  thing
• 25:46
  you
• 25:47
  gave
• 25:47
  me.
• 25:47
  Give
• 25:47
  him
• 25:47
  a
• 25:48
  sticker.
• 25:48
  I
• 25:48
  have
• 25:48
  a
• 25:48
  best
• 25:49
  man
• 25:49
  pin.
• 25:49
  Oh,
• 25:50
  pin.
• 25:50
  Yeah,
• 25:51
  I
• 25:51
  got
• 25:51
  a
• 25:51
  lighter.
• 25:52
  Look
• 25:52
  at
• 25:52
  it.
• 25:52
  Every
• 25:52
  morning
• 25:53
  I
• 25:53
  gave
• 25:53
  him
• 25:54
  shoes.
• 25:54
  I
• 25:54
  gave
• 25:55
  them
• 25:55
  all
• 25:55
  shoes
• 25:55
  to
• 25:55
  wear.
• 25:56
  Oh,
• 25:56
  man.
• 25:56
  You
• 25:57
  did.
• 25:58
  Everyone
• 25:58
  but
• 25:58
  all
• 25:59
  of
• 25:59
  them.
• 25:59
  These,
• 25:59
  like,
• 25:59
  shoes
• 26:00
  to
• 26:00
  wear
• 26:00
  with
• 26:00
  their
• 26:00
  suits.
• 26:00
  Were
• 26:01
  they
• 26:01
  nice
• 26:01
  shoes?
• 26:02
  They're
• 26:02
  like,
• 26:03
  similar
• 26:03
  to
• 26:03
  the
• 26:03
  ones
• 26:03
  I'm
• 26:04
  wearing.
• 26:04
  White
• 26:04
  sole,
• 26:05
  comfortable.
• 26:06
  Couldn't
• 26:06
  ask
• 26:07
  for
• 26:07
  a
• 26:07
  better
• 26:07
  pair
• 26:07
  of
• 26:07
  shoes
• 26:07
  for
• 26:08
  a
• 26:08
  wedding.
• 26:08
  Thanks.
• 26:09
  Yeah,
• 26:09
  they
• 26:09
  were.
• 26:11
  They
• 26:11
  were.
• 26:11
  I
• 26:12
  didn't
• 26:12
  know.
• 26:12
  You
• 26:12
  know,
• 26:12
  it's
• 26:12
  always
• 26:13
  hard
• 26:13
  to
• 26:14
  pick
• 26:14
  out
• 26:14
  a
• 26:14
  good,
• 26:15
  relevant
• 26:15
  wedding
• 26:16
  gift.
• 26:16
  You
• 26:16
  know
• 26:16
  what
• 26:16
  I
• 26:17
  mean?
• 26:17
  For
• 26:17
  your,
• 26:17
  like,
• 26:18
  groomsmen.
• 26:19
  Yeah,
• 26:19
  I
• 26:19
  gotten
• 26:20
  some
• 26:20
  cool
• 26:20
  ones,
• 26:21
  but
• 26:21
  I
• 26:21
  didn't
• 26:21
  know
• 26:22
  what
• 26:22
  to
• 26:22
  do,
• 26:22
  so
• 26:23
  they
• 26:23
  got
• 26:23
  shoes.
• 26:24
  I'm
• 26:25
  sure
• 26:25
  we're
• 26:25
  going
• 26:25
  to
• 26:25
  cut
• 26:25
  this
• 26:25
  part.
• 26:26
  I
• 26:26
  don't
• 26:26
  think
• 26:26
  so.
• 26:27
  So,
• 26:27
  you
• 26:27
  know,
• 26:27
  let's
• 26:28
  talk
• 26:28
  about
• 26:28
  future
• 26:28
  plans.
• 26:29
  So
• 26:29
  we've
• 26:29
  explained
• 26:30
  who
• 26:30
  we
• 26:30
  are
• 26:30
  a
• 26:30
  little
• 26:30
  bit.
• 26:31
  Sure.
• 26:31
  We
• 26:31
  haven't.
• 26:32
  We
• 26:32
  have
• 26:32
  not
• 26:32
  explained.
• 26:33
  Matt,
• 26:33
  you
• 26:33
  didn't
• 26:34
  really
• 26:34
  tell
• 26:34
  us
• 26:34
  much
• 26:34
  about
• 26:34
  yourself.
• 26:35
  So
• 26:35
  why
• 26:35
  don't
• 26:35
  you
• 26:36
  tell
• 26:36
  the
• 26:36
  streets?
• 26:37
  Why
• 26:37
  are
• 26:37
  you
• 26:37
  here,
• 26:37
  like
• 26:37
  on
• 26:38
  earth
• 26:38
  or.
• 26:38
  No,
• 26:39
  like
• 26:39
  what.
• 26:39
  What's
• 26:40
  your
• 26:40
  skill
• 26:40
  set?
• 26:41
  Is
• 26:42
  there
• 26:42
  some
• 26:42
  relevance?
• 26:43
  Well,
• 26:44
  I
• 26:45
  started
• 26:45
  with
• 26:45
  playing
• 26:46
  drums.
• 26:46
  You
• 26:47
  did?
• 26:47
  You're
• 26:48
  a
• 26:48
  musician
• 26:48
  too?
• 26:49
  Yeah.
• 26:49
  And
• 26:49
  I'm
• 26:50
  not
• 26:51
  sure
• 26:51
  if
• 26:51
  that
• 26:51
  was
• 26:51
  like
• 26:52
  an
• 26:52
  add
• 26:52
  thing
• 26:53
  or,
• 26:53
  or
• 26:53
  a
• 26:53
  rage
• 26:54
  thing
• 26:54
  or
• 26:55
  just.
• 26:55
  I
• 26:55
  think
• 26:55
  it
• 26:55
  was
• 26:55
  just
• 26:56
  really
• 26:56
  interesting
• 26:58
  and
• 26:58
  it
• 26:58
  kind
• 26:58
  of
• 26:58
  calms
• 26:58
  my
• 26:59
  brain
• 26:59
  down.
• 26:59
  And
• 27:00
  then
• 27:00
  from
• 27:01
  there,
• 27:03
  played
• 27:03
  in
• 27:03
  bands
• 27:03
  and
• 27:04
  played
• 27:04
  in
• 27:04
  sessions
• 27:04
  and
• 27:04
  all
• 27:04
  that.
• 27:05
  And
• 27:05
  I
• 27:05
  just
• 27:05
  realized
• 27:06
  going
• 27:06
  back
• 27:06
  to
• 27:07
  how
• 27:07
  tumultuous
• 27:08
  the
• 27:08
  industry
• 27:08
  is,
• 27:09
  I
• 27:09
  just
• 27:09
  realized
• 27:09
  I
• 27:09
  don't
• 27:10
  want
• 27:10
  to.
• 27:11
  It's
• 27:11
  not
• 27:12
  like
• 27:12
  I
• 27:12
  was
• 27:12
  offered
• 27:13
  and
• 27:13
  I
• 27:13
  was
• 27:13
  like,
• 27:13
  oh,
• 27:13
  yeah,
• 27:14
  I'm
• 27:14
  going
• 27:14
  to
• 27:14
  say
• 27:14
  no
• 27:14
  to
• 27:14
  this
• 27:14
  deal.
• 27:15
  But
• 27:15
  I
• 27:15
  didn't
• 27:16
  even
• 27:16
  want
• 27:16
  to
• 27:16
  pursue
• 27:17
  one
• 27:18
  too
• 27:18
  vehemently
• 27:19
  because
• 27:19
  it's
• 27:20
  just
• 27:20
  such
• 27:20
  a
• 27:21
  hard
• 27:21
  life.
• 27:22
  And
• 27:22
  I
• 27:22
  think
• 27:22
  everybody
• 27:23
  in
• 27:23
  the
• 27:23
  room
• 27:23
  has
• 27:23
  come
• 27:23
  to
• 27:24
  that
• 27:24
  realization
• 27:24
  saying,
• 27:25
  I
• 27:25
  want
• 27:25
  to
• 27:25
  work
• 27:25
  in
• 27:25
  music,
• 27:26
  but
• 27:27
  screw
• 27:28
  like
• 27:28
  being
• 27:28
  a
• 27:29
  day
• 27:29
  to
• 27:29
  day
• 27:29
  musician.
• 27:30
  Like,
• 27:30
  that's
• 27:31
  another
• 27:31
  way.
• 27:32
  Yeah.
• 27:32
  And
• 27:32
  plus
• 27:32
  this
• 27:32
  way
• 27:33
  I
• 27:33
  get
• 27:33
  to
• 27:33
  work
• 27:33
  on
• 27:33
  a
• 27:33
  ton
• 27:34
  of
• 27:34
  different
• 27:34
  music,
• 27:34
  not
• 27:35
  just
• 27:35
  my
• 27:35
  own.
• 27:35
  True.
• 27:36
  And
• 27:37
  then
• 27:37
  from
• 27:37
  there
• 27:37
  it's
• 27:38
  still
• 27:38
  tumultuous.
• 27:39
  So
• 27:39
  it
• 27:39
  was
• 27:39
  just
• 27:39
  like,
• 27:40
  well,
• 27:40
  how
• 27:40
  else
• 27:40
  can
• 27:41
  we
• 27:41
  stay
• 27:41
  afloat?
• 27:42
  Why
• 27:42
  don't
• 27:42
  we
• 27:42
  incorporate
• 27:42
  the
• 27:43
  film
• 27:43
  into
• 27:43
  it?
• 27:44
  And
• 27:45
  yeah,
• 27:45
  I
• 27:46
  myself,
• 27:47
  I
• 27:47
  specialize
• 27:47
  in
• 27:47
  the
• 27:48
  sound
• 27:48
  part
• 27:48
  of
• 27:48
  things
• 27:48
  and
• 27:49
  I
• 27:49
  teach
• 27:49
  that
• 27:49
  at
• 27:49
  a
• 27:49
  college
• 27:50
  as
• 27:50
  well.
• 27:50
  And
• 27:51
  then
• 27:51
  we
• 27:51
  just
• 27:51
  put
• 27:51
  all
• 27:51
  that
• 27:52
  to
• 27:52
  work
• 27:52
  here.
• 27:53
  We
• 27:53
  get
• 27:53
  to
• 27:53
  meet
• 27:53
  all
• 27:54
  kinds
• 27:54
  of
• 27:54
  different
• 27:54
  people.
• 27:54
  It's
• 27:55
  fun.
• 27:55
  Like
• 27:55
  sometimes
• 27:56
  we
• 27:56
  work
• 27:56
  with
• 27:56
  kids
• 27:57
  and
• 27:57
  with
• 27:57
  pets
• 27:57
  and
• 27:57
  sometimes
• 27:58
  we
• 27:58
  work
• 27:58
  with
• 27:58
  like
• 27:59
  death
• 28:00
  metal
• 28:00
  and
• 28:01
  sign
• 28:01
  language
• 28:02
  videos.
• 28:02
  And
• 28:03
  Barney
• 28:03
  was
• 28:03
  here
• 28:04
  once.
• 28:04
  Wow.
• 28:05
  Not
• 28:05
  Stinson
• 28:05
  the
• 28:06
  dinosaur.
• 28:07
  And
• 28:07
  yeah,
• 28:08
  it's
• 28:08
  just
• 28:08
  all
• 28:08
  over
• 28:08
  the
• 28:08
  place.
• 28:08
  And
• 28:09
  that's
• 28:09
  what
• 28:09
  I
• 28:09
  like.
• 28:09
  I
• 28:09
  just
• 28:09
  like
• 28:10
  surrealism
• 28:10
  and
• 28:11
  strange
• 28:11
  things
• 28:11
  happening
• 28:12
  in
• 28:12
  my
• 28:13
  vicinity
• 28:13
  every
• 28:13
  day.
• 28:14
  Nice.
• 28:15
  And
• 28:15
  it's
• 28:16
  again,
• 28:16
  perfect
• 28:17
  fit.
• 28:17
  So
• 28:18
  you
• 28:18
  have
• 28:18
  your
• 28:18
  musical
• 28:19
  background
• 28:20
  and
• 28:21
  you
• 28:21
  are
• 28:21
  the
• 28:21
  producer
• 28:22
  extraordinaire.
• 28:23
  So
• 28:23
  it's
• 28:23
  amazing.
• 28:24
  Yeah,
• 28:24
  it's
• 28:24
  weird
• 28:24
  how
• 28:25
  this
• 28:25
  all
• 28:25
  kind
• 28:25
  of
• 28:25
  organically
• 28:26
  came
• 28:26
  together.
• 28:28
  We
• 28:28
  should
• 28:28
  talk
• 28:29
  about
• 28:29
  the
• 28:29
  future
• 28:29
  plans.
• 28:30
  No,
• 28:30
  yeah,
• 28:30
  let's.
• 28:30
  We
• 28:31
  should
• 28:31
  tell
• 28:31
  them.
• 28:31
  I
• 28:31
  mean,
• 28:32
  what
• 28:32
  we
• 28:32
  have
• 28:32
  in
• 28:33
  store
• 28:33
  for
• 28:33
  future
• 28:34
  episodes,
• 28:35
  the
• 28:35
  type
• 28:36
  of
• 28:36
  guests
• 28:36
  that
• 28:36
  we
• 28:36
  will
• 28:37
  be
• 28:37
  bringing
• 28:37
  on.
• 28:38
  So
• 28:38
  what.
• 28:39
  What
• 28:39
  are
• 28:39
  you
• 28:39
  doing
• 28:39
  in
• 28:39
  the
• 28:39
  future?
• 28:40
  What
• 28:40
  kind
• 28:40
  of
• 28:40
  episodes
• 28:41
  are
• 28:41
  you
• 28:41
  going
• 28:41
  to
• 28:41
  have?
• 28:41
  What,
• 28:42
  What's.
• 28:42
  What
• 28:43
  are
• 28:43
  the
• 28:43
  plans
• 28:43
  for
• 28:43
  the
• 28:43
  DNA
• 28:43
  and
• 28:44
  for
• 28:44
  this
• 28:44
  podcast
• 28:45
  that
• 28:45
  was
• 28:45
  so
• 28:45
  weird.
• 28:45
  It
• 28:46
  was
• 28:46
  like
• 28:46
  an
• 28:46
  echo
• 28:46
  of
• 28:46
  my
• 28:46
  voice,
• 28:47
  but
• 28:47
  it
• 28:47
  was
• 28:47
  a
• 28:47
  little
• 28:47
  different.
• 28:48
  I
• 28:48
  was
• 28:48
  going
• 28:48
  to
• 28:48
  cut
• 28:48
  through.
• 28:48
  It's
• 28:50
  smart
• 28:51
  because
• 28:51
  he
• 28:52
  said
• 28:52
  it.
• 28:52
  You
• 28:53
  could
• 28:53
  just
• 28:53
  cut
• 28:53
  to
• 28:53
  that.
• 28:54
  We'll
• 28:54
  just
• 28:54
  keep
• 28:54
  it
• 28:55
  now
• 28:55
  so
• 28:55
  people
• 28:55
  can
• 28:55
  see
• 28:56
  the
• 28:56
  BTS
• 28:56
  of
• 28:56
  how
• 28:57
  this
• 28:57
  is
• 28:57
  made.
• 28:57
  Good
• 28:58
  point.
• 29:01
  Sorry,
• 29:01
  what
• 29:01
  was
• 29:01
  your
• 29:01
  question?
• 29:02
  What's,
• 29:03
  what's
• 29:03
  in
• 29:03
  the,
• 29:04
  what's
• 29:05
  in
• 29:05
  the
• 29:05
  future?
• 29:05
  What's
• 29:06
  in
• 29:06
  the
• 29:06
  future
• 29:06
  for
• 29:06
  the
• 29:06
  company,
• 29:07
  for
• 29:07
  you
• 29:08
  musically?
• 29:09
  What
• 29:09
  do
• 29:09
  you
• 29:09
  think
• 29:09
  is
• 29:09
  going
• 29:09
  to
• 29:10
  happen
• 29:10
  with
• 29:10
  this
• 29:10
  Corona
• 29:11
  business?
• 29:11
  And
• 29:12
  if,
• 29:12
  let's
• 29:13
  say
• 29:13
  that
• 29:13
  it
• 29:13
  died
• 29:13
  off
• 29:13
  in
• 29:14
  a
• 29:14
  year
• 29:14
  and
• 29:14
  you're
• 29:15
  back
• 29:15
  to
• 29:15
  business,
• 29:15
  what's
• 29:16
  the
• 29:16
  plan?
• 29:16
  What
• 29:17
  are,
• 29:17
  I
• 29:17
  guess,
• 29:17
  what
• 29:17
  are
• 29:17
  your
• 29:17
  two
• 29:17
  different
• 29:18
  streams
• 29:18
  of
• 29:18
  plans?
• 29:18
  Corona
• 29:19
  plans.
• 29:20
  If
• 29:20
  this
• 29:20
  lasts
• 29:21
  for
• 29:21
  a
• 29:21
  few
• 29:21
  years,
• 29:21
  which
• 29:21
  it
• 29:21
  might,
• 29:22
  and
• 29:22
  no
• 29:22
  Corona
• 29:22
  plans,
• 29:23
  where
• 29:23
  do
• 29:23
  you
• 29:23
  want
• 29:24
  to
• 29:24
  be
• 29:24
  in
• 29:24
  two
• 29:24
  years?
• 29:25
  All
• 29:25
  right,
• 29:25
  well,
• 29:26
  I
• 29:26
  mean
• 29:26
  some
• 29:26
  of
• 29:26
  the
• 29:26
  things
• 29:26
  that
• 29:26
  we
• 29:27
  have
• 29:27
  planned
• 29:27
  are
• 29:28
  going
• 29:29
  to
• 29:29
  stay
• 29:29
  the
• 29:29
  same
• 29:30
  regardless.
• 29:31
  So
• 29:31
  we
• 29:32
  definitely
• 29:33
  want
• 29:33
  to
• 29:33
  keep
• 29:34
  providing
• 29:34
  work
• 29:34
  for
• 29:34
  musicians.
• 29:36
  One
• 29:36
  of
• 29:36
  our
• 29:36
  big
• 29:36
  plans
• 29:37
  is
• 29:37
  to
• 29:37
  have
• 29:38
  more
• 29:38
  and
• 29:39
  more
• 29:39
  people
• 29:40
  on
• 29:41
  some
• 29:41
  sort
• 29:41
  of
• 29:42
  full
• 29:42
  time
• 29:42
  basis.
• 29:43
  So
• 29:43
  just
• 29:43
  creating
• 29:44
  more
• 29:44
  opportunities
• 29:45
  for
• 29:45
  musicians
• 29:45
  to
• 29:45
  work,
• 29:46
  even
• 29:46
  if
• 29:46
  it's
• 29:46
  outside
• 29:47
  of
• 29:47
  the
• 29:47
  music
• 29:47
  directly,
• 29:48
  that's
• 29:49
  a
• 29:49
  big
• 29:49
  plan
• 29:49
  of
• 29:49
  mine.
• 29:51
  We'll
• 29:51
  keep
• 29:52
  doing
• 29:52
  events.
• 29:52
  I
• 29:52
  mean,
• 29:53
  providing
• 29:53
  there's
• 29:53
  any
• 29:54
  events
• 29:55
  happening,
• 29:55
  we'll
• 29:56
  be
• 29:56
  there.
• 29:57
  If
• 29:57
  there
• 29:57
  are
• 29:57
  not
• 29:58
  events,
• 29:59
  we're
• 29:59
  going
• 29:59
  to
• 29:59
  revisit
• 30:00
  that
• 30:00
  a
• 30:00
  little
• 30:00
  later.
• 30:01
  There's
• 30:01
  a
• 30:01
  lot
• 30:01
  happening
• 30:01
  digitally,
• 30:03
  there's
• 30:03
  a
• 30:03
  lot
• 30:03
  of
• 30:03
  recording
• 30:04
  work
• 30:04
  that's
• 30:04
  still
• 30:05
  going
• 30:05
  on.
• 30:05
  So
• 30:05
  there's
• 30:06
  still
• 30:06
  ways
• 30:06
  for
• 30:06
  us
• 30:07
  to
• 30:07
  thrive.
• 30:09
  But
• 30:09
  we're
• 30:10
  staying
• 30:10
  optimistic,
• 30:10
  as
• 30:11
  I
• 30:11
  mentioned,
• 30:11
  and
• 30:12
  looking
• 30:12
  forward
• 30:12
  to
• 30:12
  being
• 30:13
  back
• 30:13
  at
• 30:13
  the
• 30:13
  events
• 30:14
  and
• 30:15
  using
• 30:16
  music
• 30:16
  to
• 30:17
  entertain.
• 30:19
  Yeah,
• 30:19
  and
• 30:19
  I
• 30:19
  think
• 30:19
  for
• 30:20
  the
• 30:20
  podcast,
• 30:21
  the
• 30:21
  direction
• 30:21
  of
• 30:21
  the,
• 30:22
  the
• 30:23
  podcast
• 30:23
  in
• 30:23
  the
• 30:24
  next
• 30:24
  two
• 30:24
  years
• 30:24
  is
• 30:24
  to
• 30:25
  really
• 30:25
  just
• 30:26
  bring
• 30:27
  engaging
• 30:28
  guests
• 30:28
  that
• 30:29
  range
• 30:29
  in
• 30:29
  the
• 30:29
  wide
• 30:30
  variety
• 30:30
  of
• 30:31
  tentacles
• 30:32
  that
• 30:32
  we
• 30:32
  have
• 30:32
  out
• 30:33
  there
• 30:33
  already
• 30:33
  in
• 30:33
  our
• 30:34
  industry
• 30:34
  and
• 30:34
  in,
• 30:35
  you
• 30:35
  know,
• 30:36
  the
• 30:36
  MPL's
• 30:37
  industries
• 30:37
  just
• 30:37
  really
• 30:38
  bring,
• 30:39
  you
• 30:39
  know,
• 30:40
  intelligent
• 30:41
  people.
• 30:41
  Not,
• 30:41
  they
• 30:42
  don't
• 30:42
  even
• 30:42
  have
• 30:42
  to
• 30:42
  be
• 30:42
  intelligent,
• 30:42
  interesting
• 30:43
  people.
• 30:43
  I
• 30:44
  mean,
• 30:44
  I
• 30:44
  would
• 30:44
  hope
• 30:44
  they're
• 30:45
  somewhat
• 30:45
  intelligent.
• 30:46
  That's
• 30:46
  to
• 30:46
  me
• 30:46
  it's,
• 30:47
  they
• 30:47
  tend
• 30:47
  to.
• 30:47
  Be
• 30:47
  maybe
• 30:48
  good
• 30:48
  musicians,
• 30:49
  they
• 30:49
  may
• 30:49
  be
• 30:49
  dicks,
• 30:50
  but
• 30:51
  it's
• 30:51
  not
• 30:51
  even
• 30:51
  just
• 30:51
  musicians.
• 30:52
  Right?
• 30:52
  Like
• 30:53
  you
• 30:53
  could
• 30:53
  have
• 30:53
  like
• 30:55
  another
• 30:55
  film
• 30:55
  producer
• 30:56
  come
• 30:56
  in
• 30:56
  and
• 30:56
  talk
• 30:57
  about
• 30:57
  something
• 30:57
  or
• 30:58
  even.
• 30:59
  We
• 30:59
  spoke
• 31:00
  to
• 31:00
  the
• 31:01
  program
• 31:01
  director
• 31:01
  of
• 31:02
  Music
• 31:02
  in
• 31:02
  Memory,
• 31:03
  which
• 31:03
  is
• 31:04
  a
• 31:04
  wonderful,
• 31:05
  wonderful
• 31:05
  program
• 31:05
  regarding
• 31:06
  the
• 31:07
  connection
• 31:07
  between
• 31:07
  music
• 31:08
  and
• 31:09
  real
• 31:09
  and
• 31:10
  what
• 31:10
  reawakening.
• 31:11
  I
• 31:11
  don't
• 31:12
  know
• 31:12
  how
• 31:12
  you
• 31:12
  describe
• 31:12
  it,
• 31:12
  but
• 31:12
  basically
• 31:13
  the
• 31:13
  connection
• 31:13
  between
• 31:13
  music
• 31:14
  and
• 31:14
  memory
• 31:15
  and
• 31:15
  how
• 31:17
  music
• 31:17
  is
• 31:17
  allowed.
• 31:18
  People
• 31:19
  that
• 31:19
  have,
• 31:19
  say,
• 31:20
  any
• 31:20
  type
• 31:21
  of
• 31:21
  mental
• 31:21
  illness,
• 31:21
  dementia
• 31:22
  or,
• 31:23
  or
• 31:24
  Alzheimer's,
• 31:24
  maybe
• 31:25
  in
• 31:25
  Parkinson's,
• 31:26
  and
• 31:26
  how
• 31:26
  music
• 31:27
  can
• 31:27
  get
• 31:28
  them
• 31:28
  to
• 31:28
  re
• 31:29
  Reawaken
• 31:30
  their
• 31:30
  mind
• 31:30
  and
• 31:30
  almost
• 31:31
  re.
• 31:31
  Engage
• 31:31
  them
• 31:32
  with.
• 31:32
  With
• 31:32
  society
• 31:33
  where
• 31:33
  you
• 31:34
  literally
• 31:34
  see
• 31:34
  this
• 31:34
  one
• 31:35
  gentleman
• 31:35
  who's
• 31:36
  off
• 31:36
  on
• 31:36
  his
• 31:36
  own,
• 31:37
  doesn't
• 31:37
  want
• 31:37
  to
• 31:37
  be
• 31:37
  bothered.
• 31:38
  They
• 31:38
  put
• 31:38
  the
• 31:38
  headphones
• 31:39
  on
• 31:39
  him
• 31:40
  and
• 31:40
  he
• 31:40
  instantly
• 31:41
  just
• 31:41
  comes
• 31:41
  to
• 31:42
  life.
• 31:42
  Like
• 31:42
  it's,
• 31:43
  it's
• 31:43
  amazing.
• 31:43
  It's
• 31:44
  really
• 31:44
  amazing.
• 31:44
  So
• 31:45
  like
• 31:45
  talking
• 31:45
  to
• 31:45
  people
• 31:46
  like
• 31:46
  that,
• 31:46
  anyone
• 31:46
  that
• 31:47
  has
• 31:47
  a
• 31:47
  connection
• 31:47
  with
• 31:47
  music
• 31:48
  really
• 31:48
  we
• 31:49
  want
• 31:49
  to
• 31:49
  talk
• 31:49
  to.
• 31:49
  True.
• 31:50
  So
• 31:50
  it's
• 31:51
  the
• 31:51
  musicians
• 31:51
  like
• 31:52
  you
• 31:52
  mentioned.
• 31:52
  We
• 31:52
  have
• 31:52
  some
• 31:53
  researchers
• 31:54
  and
• 31:55
  we're
• 31:55
  going
• 31:55
  to
• 31:55
  have
• 31:55
  a
• 31:55
  lot
• 31:55
  of
• 31:55
  fun
• 31:56
  with
• 31:56
  it
• 31:56
  for
• 31:56
  sure.
• 31:58
  Yeah.
• 31:59
  Yeah,
• 32:00
  I
• 32:00
  like
• 32:01
  that.
• 32:01
  Cool.
• 32:01
  Oh
• 32:02
  yeah,
• 32:02
  that's
• 32:02
  great
• 32:02
  question.
• 32:03
  I
• 32:03
  thought
• 32:03
  you
• 32:03
  might
• 32:03
  had
• 32:03
  a
• 32:03
  follow
• 32:03
  up
• 32:04
  question.
• 32:04
  Well,
• 32:04
  I
• 32:05
  saw
• 32:05
  your
• 32:05
  eyes
• 32:05
  were
• 32:05
  thinking
• 32:06
  so.
• 32:06
  No,
• 32:06
  I
• 32:06
  have,
• 32:06
  I
• 32:07
  have
• 32:07
  a
• 32:07
  bunch.
• 32:07
  Yeah.
• 32:09
  Have
• 32:09
  you
• 32:09
  guys
• 32:09
  seen.
• 32:11
  There's
• 32:11
  all
• 32:11
  the
• 32:11
  vice
• 32:12
  explained
• 32:12
  shows
• 32:13
  and
• 32:13
  one
• 32:13
  of
• 32:13
  them
• 32:13
  was
• 32:13
  about
• 32:13
  music.
• 32:14
  Yeah.
• 32:15
  Wife
• 32:16
  box
• 32:17
  Canadian
• 32:17
  publication
• 32:18
  that
• 32:19
  does
• 32:19
  cool
• 32:19
  modern
• 32:20
  things.
• 32:22
  They
• 32:22
  really
• 32:22
  explain
• 32:24
  that
• 32:24
  part.
• 32:24
  Well,
• 32:24
  why
• 32:25
  that
• 32:25
  might
• 32:25
  help.
• 32:26
  Why
• 32:26
  music
• 32:26
  can
• 32:26
  help
• 32:27
  somebody
• 32:27
  with
• 32:27
  Alzheimer's
• 32:28
  and
• 32:28
  stuff.
• 32:28
  It's
• 32:29
  a,
• 32:29
  it's
• 32:29
  a
• 32:29
  very
• 32:29
  unique
• 32:30
  human
• 32:30
  thing
• 32:30
  where
• 32:31
  we
• 32:31
  actually
• 32:33
  process
• 32:33
  music
• 32:34
  through
• 32:34
  pretty
• 32:35
  much
• 32:35
  every
• 32:35
  part
• 32:35
  of
• 32:36
  our
• 32:36
  brain.
• 32:36
  Right.
• 32:36
  There's
• 32:37
  an
• 32:37
  emotional
• 32:37
  process,
• 32:38
  there's
• 32:38
  a
• 32:38
  meter
• 32:39
  timing
• 32:39
  process,
• 32:41
  there's
• 32:42
  a
• 32:42
  contextual
• 32:42
  process.
• 32:43
  And
• 32:44
  that's
• 32:44
  why.
• 32:45
  Well
• 32:45
  at
• 32:45
  least
• 32:45
  that's
• 32:46
  the
• 32:46
  theory
• 32:46
  that
• 32:46
  when
• 32:46
  you
• 32:46
  play
• 32:47
  music
• 32:47
  for
• 32:47
  somebody
• 32:47
  it
• 32:47
  engages
• 32:48
  so
• 32:48
  many
• 32:48
  different
• 32:48
  parts
• 32:49
  of
• 32:49
  their
• 32:49
  brain.
• 32:50
  Even
• 32:50
  if
• 32:50
  a
• 32:50
  few
• 32:51
  of
• 32:51
  them
• 32:51
  are
• 32:51
  injured
• 32:51
  or
• 32:51
  missing
• 32:52
  or
• 32:53
  fire
• 32:53
  up.
• 32:53
  Yeah.
• 32:54
  And
• 32:54
  that's.
• 32:54
  And
• 32:54
  animals
• 32:55
  have
• 32:55
  a
• 32:55
  hard
• 32:55
  time
• 32:55
  with
• 32:55
  it
• 32:56
  because
• 32:56
  they
• 32:56
  can.
• 32:57
  Most
• 32:57
  animals,
• 32:57
  if
• 32:58
  they
• 32:58
  pick
• 32:58
  anything
• 32:58
  up,
• 32:59
  they
• 32:59
  pick
• 32:59
  up
• 32:59
  one
• 32:59
  thing.
• 33:00
  Like
• 33:00
  they
• 33:00
  found
• 33:01
  that
• 33:01
  there
• 33:01
  are
• 33:01
  a
• 33:01
  couple
• 33:01
  of
• 33:02
  parrots
• 33:02
  that
• 33:03
  can
• 33:03
  nod
• 33:03
  to
• 33:03
  the
• 33:04
  beat.
• 33:04
  Right.
• 33:04
  But
• 33:05
  chimps
• 33:05
  can't
• 33:05
  do
• 33:05
  it.
• 33:05
  Chimps
• 33:06
  can't
• 33:07
  predict.
• 33:08
  They
• 33:08
  can.
• 33:08
  Like
• 33:09
  if
• 33:09
  you
• 33:09
  clap,
• 33:10
  a
• 33:10
  chimp
• 33:10
  can.
• 33:10
  Like
• 33:11
  clap
• 33:11
  right
• 33:11
  after
• 33:11
  action,
• 33:12
  but
• 33:12
  they.
• 33:13
  Can'T
• 33:13
  be
• 33:13
  like,
• 33:13
  oh
• 33:13
  there's
• 33:13
  another
• 33:14
  clap
• 33:14
  coming.
• 33:14
  They
• 33:14
  just
• 33:15
  can't
• 33:15
  predict
• 33:15
  that.
• 33:15
  So
• 33:15
  it's
• 33:16
  another
• 33:17
  human
• 33:17
  ability
• 33:17
  to
• 33:18
  predict
• 33:18
  the
• 33:19
  future
• 33:19
  and
• 33:20
  prepare
• 33:20
  for
• 33:20
  it.
• 33:20
  It
• 33:21
  just
• 33:21
  all
• 33:21
  wraps
• 33:21
  into
• 33:22
  one
• 33:22
  thing,
• 33:23
  music.
• 33:23
  And
• 33:24
  that's
• 33:24
  probably
• 33:24
  why
• 33:24
  music
• 33:25
  specifically
• 33:26
  is
• 33:26
  able
• 33:26
  to
• 33:27
  trigger
• 33:27
  that
• 33:27
  as
• 33:28
  opposed
• 33:28
  to
• 33:28
  someone
• 33:28
  just
• 33:29
  singing
• 33:29
  or
• 33:30
  talking.
• 33:30
  Do
• 33:30
  you
• 33:30
  know
• 33:30
  what
• 33:30
  I
• 33:31
  mean?
• 33:31
  Not
• 33:31
  only
• 33:31
  that,
• 33:31
  people
• 33:32
  with
• 33:32
  stutters
• 33:33
  can
• 33:33
  often
• 33:33
  sing
• 33:34
  just.
• 33:34
  Yes,
• 33:35
  that's
• 33:35
  true.
• 33:35
  That
• 33:36
  is
• 33:36
  true.
• 33:36
  Right.
• 33:37
  It
• 33:37
  completely
• 33:38
  circumvents
• 33:38
  certain
• 33:39
  parts
• 33:39
  of
• 33:40
  your
• 33:40
  communication
• 33:41
  and
• 33:41
  compensates
• 33:42
  with
• 33:43
  emotion
• 33:44
  and
• 33:44
  timing
• 33:44
  and
• 33:45
  tomorrow
• 33:45
  and
• 33:45
  all
• 33:46
  that.
• 33:46
  Yeah,
• 33:46
  very
• 33:46
  interesting
• 33:47
  how
• 33:47
  that
• 33:47
  works.
• 33:47
  Exactly.
• 33:48
  And
• 33:48
  so
• 33:48
  when
• 33:48
  we
• 33:48
  got
• 33:49
  wind
• 33:49
  of
• 33:49
  that,
• 33:49
  we
• 33:50
  reached
• 33:50
  out
• 33:50
  to
• 33:51
  the
• 33:51
  program
• 33:51
  director
• 33:51
  and
• 33:52
  you
• 33:52
  know,
• 33:53
  there's
• 33:53
  other
• 33:53
  cool
• 33:54
  things
• 33:54
  that
• 33:54
  are
• 33:54
  related
• 33:54
  to
• 33:55
  music
• 33:55
  that
• 33:55
  if
• 33:56
  we,
• 33:56
  we
• 33:56
  think
• 33:56
  it's
• 33:57
  interesting
• 33:57
  and
• 33:57
  people
• 33:57
  might
• 33:58
  enjoy
• 33:58
  it
• 33:58
  the
• 33:58
  way
• 33:58
  we
• 33:59
  enjoy
• 33:59
  it,
• 33:59
  we're
• 33:59
  going
• 33:59
  to
• 34:00
  reach
• 34:00
  out.
• 34:00
  We
• 34:00
  want
• 34:00
  to
• 34:01
  share,
• 34:01
  you
• 34:01
  know,
• 34:02
  those
• 34:02
  kind
• 34:02
  of
• 34:03
  stories
• 34:03
  or
• 34:03
  interviews
• 34:04
  with
• 34:04
  people.
• 34:04
  So
• 34:05
  yes,
• 34:05
  I
• 34:05
  think
• 34:05
  that's
• 34:06
  the
• 34:06
  direction
• 34:06
  we're
• 34:07
  going
• 34:07
  to
• 34:07
  go
• 34:07
  is
• 34:07
  really
• 34:07
  just
• 34:08
  anything
• 34:09
  interesting
• 34:09
  within
• 34:09
  the
• 34:10
  realm
• 34:10
  of
• 34:10
  music
• 34:11
  I
• 34:12
  want
• 34:12
  to
• 34:12
  hear
• 34:12
  about.
• 34:12
  And
• 34:12
  I
• 34:13
  hope
• 34:13
  others
• 34:13
  do
• 34:14
  too.
• 34:14
  I
• 34:15
  think
• 34:15
  so.
• 34:15
  Especially
• 34:16
  in
• 34:16
  Canada
• 34:16
  in
• 34:16
  2020,
• 34:17
  near
• 34:18
  Toronto
• 34:18
  in
• 34:18
  2020,
• 34:19
  when
• 34:19
  there's
• 34:19
  so
• 34:19
  much
• 34:19
  good
• 34:19
  music
• 34:20
  coming
• 34:20
  out
• 34:20
  of
• 34:20
  here.
• 34:20
  Exactly.
• 34:21
  Yeah.
• 34:21
  There's
• 34:21
  lots
• 34:22
  to
• 34:22
  talk
• 34:22
  about
• 34:22
  and
• 34:23
  I.
• 34:23
  Just
• 34:23
  don't
• 34:23
  think
• 34:23
  that
• 34:24
  a
• 34:24
  lot
• 34:24
  of.
• 34:26
  I
• 34:27
  hate
• 34:27
  the
• 34:27
  word
• 34:27
  urban.
• 34:28
  I
• 34:28
  don't,
• 34:28
  I'm
• 34:28
  never
• 34:28
  going
• 34:28
  to
• 34:28
  use
• 34:29
  that
• 34:29
  word.
• 34:29
  But
• 34:29
  just
• 34:29
  like,
• 34:31
  you
• 34:31
  know,
• 34:31
  black
• 34:31
  entertainers
• 34:32
  in
• 34:32
  general
• 34:32
  don't
• 34:33
  have
• 34:34
  a
• 34:34
  lot
• 34:34
  of
• 34:34
  avenues
• 34:35
  to
• 34:35
  go
• 34:35
  to
• 34:36
  really
• 34:36
  share
• 34:36
  their
• 34:37
  stories.
• 34:37
  Specifically
• 34:38
  as
• 34:38
  far
• 34:39
  as
• 34:39
  this
• 34:40
  local
• 34:40
  Toronto
• 34:41
  scene.
• 34:42
  And
• 34:42
  I
• 34:42
  think
• 34:42
  a
• 34:43
  lot
• 34:43
  of
• 34:43
  struggling
• 34:43
  artists
• 34:44
  in
• 34:44
  the
• 34:44
  scene
• 34:44
  would
• 34:44
  love
• 34:45
  to
• 34:45
  have
• 34:45
  a
• 34:45
  little
• 34:45
  bit
• 34:45
  more
• 34:46
  voice
• 34:46
  because
• 34:47
  if
• 34:47
  you're
• 34:47
  top
• 34:48
  tier,
• 34:48
  people
• 34:48
  are
• 34:48
  going
• 34:49
  to
• 34:49
  come
• 34:49
  and
• 34:49
  give
• 34:49
  you
• 34:49
  that
• 34:50
  voice,
• 34:50
  you
• 34:50
  know,
• 34:50
  people
• 34:50
  are
• 34:50
  going
• 34:51
  to
• 34:51
  ask
• 34:51
  you
• 34:51
  to
• 34:51
  come.
• 34:51
  Whereas,
• 34:52
  you
• 34:52
  know,
• 34:52
  these
• 34:53
  other
• 34:53
  people
• 34:53
  are
• 34:53
  really
• 34:54
  trying
• 34:54
  to
• 34:54
  move
• 34:54
  up
• 34:55
  a
• 34:55
  level.
• 34:55
  I
• 34:55
  think
• 34:55
  I'm
• 34:56
  rambling.
• 34:56
  So
• 34:56
  we're
• 34:56
  probably
• 34:57
  going
• 34:57
  to
• 34:57
  cut
• 34:57
  this.
• 34:57
  No,
• 34:58
  not
• 34:58
  at
• 34:58
  all.
• 34:59
  But
• 34:59
  just
• 35:00
  like
• 35:00
  people
• 35:00
  that
• 35:01
  want
• 35:01
  to
• 35:02
  share
• 35:02
  their
• 35:02
  story
• 35:02
  that's
• 35:03
  equally
• 35:03
  as
• 35:04
  interesting
• 35:04
  as
• 35:04
  a
• 35:04
  top
• 35:05
  tier
• 35:05
  person,
• 35:06
  you
• 35:06
  know,
• 35:06
  we
• 35:06
  want
• 35:06
  to
• 35:06
  give
• 35:07
  them
• 35:07
  the
• 35:07
  chance
• 35:07
  to
• 35:07
  share
• 35:08
  their
• 35:08
  story
• 35:08
  too
• 35:08
  because
• 35:09
  I
• 35:09
  think
• 35:09
  that's
• 35:10
  important
• 35:10
  and
• 35:11
  just
• 35:11
  kind
• 35:11
  of
• 35:12
  really
• 35:12
  focus
• 35:13
  on
• 35:13
  building
• 35:13
  a
• 35:14
  community
• 35:14
  of
• 35:15
  like
• 35:15
  minded
• 35:16
  individuals.
• 35:16
  I
• 35:17
  think
• 35:18
  that's
• 35:18
  kind
• 35:18
  of
• 35:19
  where
• 35:19
  this
• 35:19
  came
• 35:19
  from
• 35:19
  is
• 35:20
  there's
• 35:20
  a
• 35:20
  lot
• 35:20
  of
• 35:21
  people
• 35:21
  like
• 35:21
  us
• 35:21
  and
• 35:22
  every
• 35:22
  time
• 35:22
  we
• 35:22
  talk
• 35:22
  to
• 35:22
  a
• 35:23
  different
• 35:23
  artist,
• 35:23
  they're
• 35:24
  saying
• 35:24
  the
• 35:24
  same
• 35:25
  things
• 35:25
  that
• 35:25
  we've
• 35:26
  said
• 35:26
  privately.
• 35:27
  And
• 35:28
  there's
• 35:28
  no
• 35:29
  real
• 35:30
  way
• 35:30
  for
• 35:30
  everyone
• 35:30
  to
• 35:31
  kind
• 35:31
  of
• 35:33
  come
• 35:33
  together
• 35:33
  as
• 35:34
  one
• 35:34
  giant
• 35:34
  movement.
• 35:35
  And
• 35:35
  I
• 35:35
  hope
• 35:36
  that
• 35:36
  we
• 35:36
  can
• 35:36
  kind
• 35:36
  of
• 35:37
  start
• 35:37
  fostering
• 35:38
  a
• 35:38
  community
• 35:38
  that
• 35:39
  can
• 35:39
  really
• 35:40
  elevate
• 35:41
  Toronto's
• 35:42
  indie
• 35:43
  music
• 35:43
  scene
• 35:44
  in
• 35:44
  A,
• 35:44
  R
• 35:45
  and
• 35:45
  B,
• 35:46
  soul,
• 35:46
  gospel
• 35:47
  area,
• 35:48
  you
• 35:48
  know,
• 35:48
  where
• 35:48
  our
• 35:48
  strengths
• 35:49
  lie.
• 35:50
  I
• 35:50
  miss
• 35:50
  some
• 35:51
  modern
• 35:51
  soul
• 35:51
  music.
• 35:52
  It's
• 35:52
  been
• 35:52
  a
• 35:52
  while
• 35:53
  since
• 35:53
  that
• 35:53
  was
• 35:54
  really
• 35:54
  hitting
• 35:54
  the
• 35:54
  radio
• 35:55
  much.
• 35:55
  Yeah,
• 35:56
  a
• 35:56
  little,
• 35:57
  A
• 35:57
  little
• 35:57
  bit
• 35:57
  of
• 35:58
  the
• 35:58
  weekend.
• 35:59
  I
• 35:59
  want
• 35:59
  more
• 35:59
  soul.
• 36:01
  Yeah,
• 36:01
  it's
• 36:01
  really
• 36:02
  trappy
• 36:02
  now.
• 36:02
  Super
• 36:03
  trappy.
• 36:03
  And
• 36:04
  what's
• 36:05
  the
• 36:05
  grime?
• 36:05
  I
• 36:06
  think
• 36:06
  grime
• 36:06
  is
• 36:06
  making
• 36:06
  a
• 36:07
  huge
• 36:07
  wave.
• 36:08
  That
• 36:09
  UK
• 36:09
  grime,
• 36:10
  you
• 36:11
  think.
• 36:11
  In
• 36:11
  the
• 36:11
  US
• 36:12
  or
• 36:12
  in
• 36:13
  Canada?
• 36:13
  More
• 36:14
  both.
• 36:14
  Like
• 36:15
  Drake's
• 36:15
  really
• 36:15
  trying
• 36:16
  to
• 36:16
  gravitate
• 36:16
  towards
• 36:17
  in
• 36:17
  last
• 36:17
  couple
• 36:17
  of
• 36:18
  his
• 36:18
  songs.
• 36:18
  I
• 36:18
  don't
• 36:18
  know.
• 36:18
  I
• 36:19
  listened
• 36:19
  To
• 36:19
  War.
• 36:19
  I
• 36:20
  don't
• 36:20
  know
• 36:20
  if
• 36:20
  you
• 36:20
  know
• 36:20
  that
• 36:20
  song,
• 36:21
  but.
• 36:22
  And
• 36:22
  he's
• 36:22
  got
• 36:22
  a
• 36:22
  real
• 36:23
  big
• 36:23
  tie
• 36:23
  with
• 36:23
  the
• 36:23
  uk,
• 36:24
  with
• 36:24
  him
• 36:24
  producing
• 36:26
  Top
• 36:26
  Boy.
• 36:27
  So
• 36:27
  he's
• 36:27
  really
• 36:28
  got.
• 36:28
  And
• 36:28
  Drake's
• 36:28
  the
• 36:28
  kind
• 36:29
  of
• 36:29
  guy
• 36:29
  that's
• 36:29
  got
• 36:29
  his
• 36:29
  ear
• 36:30
  to
• 36:30
  the
• 36:30
  future
• 36:30
  all
• 36:30
  the
• 36:31
  time
• 36:31
  anyway.
• 36:31
  He's
• 36:32
  really
• 36:32
  listening
• 36:33
  to
• 36:33
  the
• 36:33
  new
• 36:33
  sounds
• 36:33
  and
• 36:34
  adapting
• 36:34
  before
• 36:35
  anybody
• 36:35
  really
• 36:36
  starts
• 36:36
  to
• 36:36
  make
• 36:36
  those
• 36:36
  moves.
• 36:37
  So
• 36:38
  when
• 36:38
  I
• 36:38
  see
• 36:38
  him
• 36:38
  gravitating
• 36:39
  towards
• 36:39
  it
• 36:39
  and
• 36:39
  then
• 36:40
  New
• 36:40
  York
• 36:40
  artists
• 36:41
  are
• 36:42
  now
• 36:42
  using
• 36:42
  it
• 36:42
  like
• 36:43
  French
• 36:43
  Montana,
• 36:44
  pop,
• 36:44
  Smoke,
• 36:44
  Rest
• 36:45
  in
• 36:45
  Peace.
• 36:45
  But
• 36:46
  some
• 36:46
  of
• 36:46
  the
• 36:46
  newer
• 36:46
  guys
• 36:47
  were
• 36:47
  really
• 36:47
  gravitating
• 36:48
  towards
• 36:48
  that,
• 36:48
  you
• 36:48
  know,
• 36:49
  UK
• 36:49
  grime
• 36:50
  type.
• 36:51
  It's
• 36:52
  really
• 36:52
  distinct.
• 36:52
  Like
• 36:53
  it's
• 36:53
  a
• 36:53
  trappy
• 36:53
  but
• 36:54
  heavy
• 36:54
  bassy.
• 36:56
  It's
• 36:56
  interesting
• 36:57
  how
• 36:57
  Drake.
• 36:57
  I
• 36:57
  wouldn't
• 36:58
  say
• 36:58
  that
• 36:58
  Drake
• 36:58
  is
• 36:58
  like
• 36:58
  the
• 36:59
  quintessential
• 36:59
  Trap
• 37:00
  artist,
• 37:00
  but
• 37:00
  when
• 37:00
  it
• 37:00
  comes
• 37:01
  to.
• 37:01
  And
• 37:02
  I
• 37:02
  know
• 37:02
  Trap
• 37:02
  has
• 37:02
  been
• 37:03
  around
• 37:03
  for
• 37:03
  a
• 37:03
  while,
• 37:04
  but
• 37:04
  when
• 37:04
  it
• 37:04
  comes
• 37:04
  to
• 37:04
  Trap
• 37:07
  showing
• 37:07
  up
• 37:07
  in
• 37:07
  mainstream
• 37:08
  media,
• 37:08
  it
• 37:09
  really
• 37:09
  kind
• 37:09
  of
• 37:09
  started
• 37:10
  with
• 37:10
  Drake
• 37:11
  in
• 37:11
  many
• 37:11
  ways.
• 37:11
  Well,
• 37:12
  Drake
• 37:12
  in
• 37:12
  future
• 37:12
  had
• 37:13
  that
• 37:13
  grab
• 37:14
  CD
• 37:14
  too.
• 37:14
  Right.
• 37:15
  And
• 37:15
  that
• 37:15
  just
• 37:15
  proves
• 37:16
  when
• 37:16
  he
• 37:16
  hears
• 37:16
  something
• 37:16
  and
• 37:17
  he
• 37:17
  thinks
• 37:17
  it's
• 37:17
  going
• 37:17
  to
• 37:17
  take
• 37:18
  off,
• 37:18
  he
• 37:18
  knows
• 37:19
  who
• 37:19
  to
• 37:19
  go
• 37:19
  to.
• 37:19
  He
• 37:20
  knows
• 37:20
  who's,
• 37:20
  you
• 37:21
  know,
• 37:21
  the.
• 37:21
  And
• 37:22
  he
• 37:22
  can
• 37:22
  execute.
• 37:22
  You're
• 37:23
  right.
• 37:23
  And
• 37:23
  he
• 37:23
  can
• 37:23
  end,
• 37:23
  which
• 37:24
  is
• 37:24
  important.
• 37:25
  Very,
• 37:25
  very
• 37:25
  important
• 37:26
  because
• 37:26
  he's
• 37:26
  the
• 37:26
  only
• 37:27
  guy
• 37:27
  that
• 37:27
  can
• 37:27
  do
• 37:27
  trap
• 37:28
  and
• 37:28
  then
• 37:29
  sing
• 37:29
  and
• 37:30
  then
• 37:30
  go
• 37:30
  and
• 37:30
  do
• 37:31
  like
• 37:31
  a
• 37:31
  Spanish
• 37:32
  song.
• 37:32
  Like
• 37:32
  he's.
• 37:32
  I
• 37:33
  don't
• 37:33
  know
• 37:33
  if
• 37:33
  there's
• 37:33
  any
• 37:33
  other
• 37:34
  hip
• 37:35
  hop
• 37:35
  artist
• 37:35
  that's
• 37:36
  been
• 37:36
  as
• 37:36
  versatile.
• 37:37
  As
• 37:37
  Drake
• 37:37
  ever
• 37:37
  and
• 37:38
  do
• 37:38
  comedy
• 37:38
  and.
• 37:38
  Right.
• 37:39
  Yeah,
• 37:39
  he's
• 37:39
  true.
• 37:40
  Yeah,
• 37:40
  yeah.
• 37:40
  He's
• 37:41
  a
• 37:41
  multi.
• 37:42
  Although
• 37:42
  he
• 37:42
  was
• 37:42
  pretty
• 37:42
  lazy
• 37:43
  with
• 37:43
  his
• 37:43
  acting.
• 37:43
  He
• 37:43
  was
• 37:43
  always
• 37:43
  sitting.
• 37:47
  That's
• 37:47
  funny.
• 37:47
  That's
• 37:48
  actually
• 37:48
  funny.
• 37:48
  But
• 37:48
  I.
• 37:48
  Yeah,
• 37:49
  I'm
• 37:49
  shocked
• 37:49
  he
• 37:49
  hasn't
• 37:50
  done
• 37:50
  more.
• 37:50
  But
• 37:50
  I
• 37:51
  think
• 37:51
  he's
• 37:51
  probably
• 37:51
  just
• 37:51
  gonna
• 37:52
  wait
• 37:52
  until
• 37:52
  music
• 37:53
  kind
• 37:53
  of
• 37:53
  becomes
• 37:54
  not
• 37:55
  irrelevant,
• 37:55
  but
• 37:56
  like
• 37:56
  less.
• 37:56
  Like
• 37:57
  when
• 37:57
  he's
• 37:57
  like
• 37:57
  in
• 37:57
  his
• 37:57
  40s
• 37:58
  or
• 37:58
  50s
• 37:58
  and
• 37:58
  he
• 37:58
  doesn't
• 37:58
  want
• 37:58
  to
• 37:59
  be
• 37:59
  running
• 37:59
  around
• 37:59
  stage
• 37:59
  anymore,
• 38:00
  maybe
• 38:00
  he'll
• 38:01
  go
• 38:01
  back
• 38:01
  to
• 38:01
  acting.
• 38:01
  But
• 38:02
  do
• 38:02
  you
• 38:02
  guys
• 38:02
  think
• 38:02
  he'll
• 38:03
  ever
• 38:03
  start
• 38:03
  acting
• 38:04
  more
• 38:04
  now
• 38:04
  or
• 38:05
  would
• 38:05
  he
• 38:05
  wait
• 38:06
  or
• 38:06
  what
• 38:06
  would
• 38:07
  you
• 38:07
  think?
• 38:07
  Now?
• 38:08
  The
• 38:08
  week.
• 38:09
  Yeah.
• 38:09
  The
• 38:09
  what?
• 38:10
  The
• 38:10
  weekend's
• 38:10
  even
• 38:10
  acting.
• 38:11
  Yeah.
• 38:11
  But
• 38:11
  why
• 38:12
  would.
• 38:12
  Drake
• 38:12
  hasn't
• 38:12
  done
• 38:12
  anything
• 38:13
  besides
• 38:13
  snl.
• 38:14
  It's
• 38:14
  a
• 38:14
  little
• 38:14
  different
• 38:14
  when
• 38:14
  it's
• 38:15
  like
• 38:15
  Justin
• 38:15
  Timberlake
• 38:15
  who's
• 38:16
  like,
• 38:16
  I
• 38:16
  also
• 38:16
  want
• 38:16
  to
• 38:16
  be
• 38:16
  an
• 38:16
  actor
• 38:17
  and
• 38:17
  he
• 38:17
  has
• 38:17
  to
• 38:17
  work
• 38:17
  at
• 38:18
  it.
• 38:18
  His
• 38:18
  first
• 38:18
  few
• 38:18
  movies
• 38:19
  kind
• 38:19
  of
• 38:19
  suck.
• 38:19
  And
• 38:20
  then,
• 38:20
  you
• 38:20
  know,
• 38:20
  he
• 38:20
  took
• 38:21
  like
• 38:21
  voice
• 38:21
  lessons
• 38:21
  to
• 38:22
  speak
• 38:22
  deeper
• 38:23
  and
• 38:23
  Things
• 38:23
  like.
• 38:23
  Really?
• 38:24
  Yeah.
• 38:24
  I
• 38:25
  didn't
• 38:25
  know.
• 38:25
  Yeah,
• 38:25
  he
• 38:26
  used
• 38:26
  to
• 38:26
  listen
• 38:26
  to
• 38:26
  timberlake
• 38:27
  in,
• 38:27
  like,
• 38:27
  1998.
• 38:29
  It
• 38:29
  was
• 38:29
  like
• 38:29
  a
• 38:30
  Chihuahua
• 38:30
  talk.
• 38:31
  But.
• 38:32
  But
• 38:32
  with
• 38:32
  someone
• 38:33
  like
• 38:33
  Drake
• 38:33
  who's.
• 38:33
  Who's
• 38:35
  completely
• 38:35
  trained.
• 38:38
  Someone
• 38:38
  like
• 38:38
  Drake
• 38:38
  who's
• 38:39
  completely
• 38:39
  trained
• 38:39
  in
• 38:39
  acting,
• 38:40
  it's.
• 38:40
  For
• 38:40
  him,
• 38:41
  it's
• 38:41
  just
• 38:41
  like,
• 38:41
  all
• 38:41
  right,
• 38:42
  let
• 38:42
  me
• 38:42
  take
• 38:42
  a
• 38:42
  year
• 38:42
  off
• 38:43
  and
• 38:43
  do
• 38:43
  Fast
• 38:43
  and
• 38:43
  the
• 38:43
  Furious
• 38:44
  12
• 38:44
  or
• 38:44
  whatever.
• 38:45
  Right?
• 38:46
  Or
• 38:46
  maybe
• 38:46
  he'll
• 38:47
  surprise
• 38:47
  us
• 38:47
  and,
• 38:47
  like,
• 38:47
  do
• 38:48
  a
• 38:48
  Lady
• 38:48
  Gaga
• 38:48
  and
• 38:48
  just,
• 38:49
  like,
• 38:49
  do
• 38:49
  a
• 38:49
  really
• 38:49
  serious
• 38:50
  film.
• 38:50
  Right?
• 38:50
  Or
• 38:50
  even
• 38:51
  8
• 38:51
  mile.
• 38:51
  Who
• 38:51
  knew
• 38:52
  that
• 38:52
  Eminem
• 38:52
  Connect
• 38:53
  and
• 38:53
  who
• 38:53
  knew
• 38:53
  that
• 38:53
  he
• 38:54
  would
• 38:54
  only
• 38:54
  do
• 38:54
  it
• 38:54
  one
• 38:54
  time?
• 38:55
  Yeah.
• 38:56
  That's
• 38:56
  all
• 38:56
  he
• 38:56
  needed
• 38:57
  to
• 38:57
  do.
• 38:57
  And
• 38:57
  it
• 38:57
  was
• 38:57
  a
• 38:57
  good
• 38:58
  movie,
• 38:58
  considering
• 38:59
  he's
• 38:59
  not
• 38:59
  the
• 39:00
  best
• 39:00
  of
• 39:00
  actors.
• 39:00
  And,
• 39:01
  like,
• 39:01
  of
• 39:01
  all
• 39:01
  the.
• 39:01
  Me,
• 39:02
  like,
• 39:02
  I
• 39:02
  don't.
• 39:02
  I
• 39:02
  couldn't
• 39:02
  see
• 39:03
  him
• 39:03
  doing
• 39:03
  much
• 39:03
  else
• 39:04
  besides
• 39:05
  playing
• 39:06
  himself.
• 39:07
  What,
• 39:08
  acting?
• 39:08
  Yeah,
• 39:09
  Eminem.
• 39:11
  True.
• 39:11
  He
• 39:11
  did
• 39:12
  play
• 39:12
  himself,
• 39:13
  but
• 39:13
  he.
• 39:14
  It's
• 39:14
  really
• 39:14
  hard
• 39:15
  to
• 39:15
  play.
• 39:15
  It's
• 39:16
  hard
• 39:16
  to
• 39:16
  play.
• 39:16
  I
• 39:16
  don't
• 39:16
  know.
• 39:16
  For
• 39:17
  me.
• 39:18
  You
• 39:18
  ever
• 39:18
  tried
• 39:18
  acting,
• 39:19
  like,
• 39:19
  on
• 39:19
  camera?
• 39:20
  Yes.
• 39:20
  It's
• 39:20
  ridiculous.
• 39:21
  You're
• 39:21
  like,
• 39:21
  I
• 39:21
  know
• 39:21
  how
• 39:22
  to
• 39:22
  say
• 39:22
  these
• 39:22
  words.
• 39:23
  I've
• 39:23
  said
• 39:23
  them
• 39:23
  a
• 39:24
  lot.
• 39:24
  Yeah.
• 39:25
  You
• 39:25
  know,
• 39:25
  like,
• 39:25
  how
• 39:26
  are
• 39:26
  you?
• 39:28
  Yeah.
• 39:28
  That's
• 39:29
  funny.
• 39:33
  It's
• 39:33
  actually
• 39:33
  interesting.
• 39:34
  We
• 39:34
  had.
• 39:35
  We
• 39:35
  had
• 39:35
  a
• 39:35
  booking
• 39:35
  here
• 39:36
  the
• 39:36
  other
• 39:36
  day
• 39:36
  for
• 39:36
  the
• 39:36
  green
• 39:37
  screen,
• 39:38
  and
• 39:38
  because
• 39:38
  of
• 39:38
  the
• 39:38
  whole
• 39:39
  Covid
• 39:40
  situation,
• 39:41
  we
• 39:41
  had
• 39:42
  to
• 39:42
  have
• 39:43
  the
• 39:43
  actors
• 39:43
  on
• 39:44
  the
• 39:44
  screen
• 39:44
  separately.
• 39:45
  We
• 39:45
  did
• 39:46
  one
• 39:46
  guy,
• 39:47
  you
• 39:48
  know,
• 39:48
  doing
• 39:48
  his
• 39:48
  role
• 39:48
  in
• 39:49
  front
• 39:49
  of
• 39:49
  the
• 39:49
  screen.
• 39:49
  Then
• 39:49
  we
• 39:49
  got
• 39:50
  the
• 39:50
  other
• 39:50
  guy.
• 39:51
  And
• 39:51
  the
• 39:51
  crazy
• 39:52
  thing
• 39:52
  is
• 39:52
  that
• 39:52
  it's
• 39:52
  just
• 39:52
  green,
• 39:53
  right?
• 39:53
  And
• 39:54
  just
• 39:54
  people
• 39:54
  staring
• 39:54
  at
• 39:54
  you,
• 39:54
  and
• 39:54
  they're
• 39:55
  like,
• 39:55
  okay,
• 39:55
  so
• 39:56
  you're.
• 39:56
  You
• 39:57
  own
• 39:57
  a
• 39:57
  business
• 39:58
  and
• 39:58
  you're
• 39:58
  really
• 39:59
  good
• 39:59
  at
• 39:59
  what
• 39:59
  you
• 39:59
  do,
• 40:00
  but
• 40:01
  you
• 40:01
  are
• 40:01
  overwhelmed
• 40:02
  with
• 40:02
  the
• 40:02
  accounting
• 40:03
  part.
• 40:03
  And
• 40:03
  the
• 40:03
  actor
• 40:04
  just
• 40:04
  turned
• 40:05
  it
• 40:05
  on.
• 40:05
  Yeah.
• 40:06
  His
• 40:06
  eyebrows
• 40:07
  said,
• 40:07
  I'm
• 40:07
  confident,
• 40:08
  but
• 40:08
  I'm
• 40:08
  overworked.
• 40:08
  Like,
• 40:09
  how
• 40:09
  do
• 40:09
  you
• 40:09
  do
• 40:09
  that?
• 40:09
  Yeah,
• 40:10
  that's
• 40:10
  crazy.
• 40:11
  For
• 40:11
  sure.
• 40:12
  Yeah.
• 40:12
  And
• 40:12
  then
• 40:12
  he
• 40:12
  switched
• 40:13
  and
• 40:13
  he
• 40:13
  had
• 40:13
  to
• 40:13
  play
• 40:14
  like,
• 40:14
  okay,
• 40:14
  now
• 40:15
  you're
• 40:15
  relieved,
• 40:16
  right?
• 40:16
  Yeah.
• 40:17
  And
• 40:17
  it's
• 40:17
  like,
• 40:17
  he
• 40:17
  really
• 40:18
  looks.
• 40:18
  How
• 40:18
  can
• 40:18
  you
• 40:18
  just
• 40:19
  look
• 40:19
  relieved
• 40:19
  out
• 40:19
  of
• 40:20
  nowhere?
• 40:20
  That's
• 40:20
  an
• 40:21
  interesting
• 40:21
  point,
• 40:21
  because
• 40:22
  there's.
• 40:22
  There's
• 40:23
  been
• 40:23
  actors
• 40:23
  where
• 40:24
  you
• 40:24
  think
• 40:24
  they're
• 40:24
  just
• 40:24
  kind
• 40:25
  of
• 40:25
  not
• 40:25
  really
• 40:25
  acting.
• 40:26
  You
• 40:26
  know
• 40:26
  what
• 40:26
  I
• 40:26
  mean?
• 40:27
  Like
• 40:27
  Guilfoyle
• 40:28
  from
• 40:28
  Silicon
• 40:29
  Valley.
• 40:29
  I
• 40:29
  don't
• 40:29
  know
• 40:29
  if
• 40:29
  you
• 40:29
  ever.
• 40:30
  Have
• 40:30
  you
• 40:30
  seen
• 40:30
  Silicon
• 40:30
  Valley?
• 40:31
  I
• 40:31
  have
• 40:31
  not.
• 40:31
  No.
• 40:31
  I'm
• 40:32
  trying
• 40:32
  to
• 40:32
  think
• 40:32
  of
• 40:32
  another
• 40:32
  actor,
• 40:33
  Anthony
• 40:33
  Hopkins.
• 40:35
  Well,
• 40:35
  he's
• 40:36
  a
• 40:36
  brilliant
• 40:36
  actor,
• 40:36
  but
• 40:36
  when
• 40:37
  you
• 40:37
  see
• 40:37
  someone
• 40:37
  just
• 40:38
  acting
• 40:38
  like
• 40:38
  a
• 40:38
  dude,
• 40:39
  for
• 40:39
  example,
• 40:39
  and
• 40:39
  you're
• 40:39
  like,
• 40:40
  oh,
• 40:40
  anyone
• 40:40
  can
• 40:40
  play
• 40:40
  a
• 40:41
  dude.
• 40:41
  But
• 40:41
  then
• 40:41
  you
• 40:41
  see
• 40:41
  him
• 40:41
  in
• 40:42
  another
• 40:42
  role
• 40:42
  and
• 40:42
  you're
• 40:42
  like,
• 40:43
  oh,
• 40:43
  you're
• 40:43
  an
• 40:43
  actor
• 40:44
  for
• 40:44
  real.
• 40:44
  Like,
• 40:44
  you're
• 40:45
  just
• 40:45
  pretending
• 40:46
  to
• 40:46
  be
• 40:46
  that
• 40:47
  guy
• 40:47
  because
• 40:47
  you
• 40:47
  can
• 40:47
  be
• 40:48
  that
• 40:48
  guy.
• 40:48
  Yeah.
• 40:49
  You're.
• 40:49
  You're
• 40:49
  actually
• 40:50
  acting.
• 40:50
  It's.
• 40:51
  It's.
• 40:51
  I
• 40:52
  ruined
• 40:52
  it
• 40:52
  with
• 40:52
  Guilfoyle,
• 40:53
  but
• 40:53
  if
• 40:53
  you
• 40:53
  get
• 40:53
  the
• 40:54
  reference,
• 40:54
  he
• 40:54
  acts
• 40:54
  like
• 40:55
  this
• 40:55
  really,
• 40:56
  like,
• 40:56
  sad
• 40:57
  guy
• 40:57
  that's
• 40:57
  just
• 40:57
  like.
• 40:58
  And
• 40:58
  you're
• 40:58
  like,
• 40:58
  I
• 40:58
  know
• 40:58
  that
• 40:58
  guy.
• 40:59
  Yeah,
• 40:59
  yeah,
• 40:59
  you're
• 40:59
  just.
• 41:00
  Anyone
• 41:00
  could
• 41:00
  be
• 41:00
  that
• 41:00
  guy.
• 41:01
  But
• 41:01
  then
• 41:01
  you
• 41:01
  see
• 41:01
  him
• 41:01
  in
• 41:01
  another
• 41:02
  role
• 41:02
  and
• 41:02
  you're
• 41:02
  like,
• 41:02
  oh,
• 41:03
  the
• 41:03
  range.
• 41:06
  I
• 41:06
  hear
• 41:06
  you.
• 41:07
  Acting's
• 41:07
  crazy.
• 41:08
  It's
• 41:08
  even
• 41:08
  crazier.
• 41:09
  That
• 41:09
  there's
• 41:10
  a
• 41:10
  green
• 41:11
  screen
• 41:11
  is
• 41:11
  even
• 41:11
  nuts
• 41:11
  because
• 41:12
  you
• 41:12
  have
• 41:12
  to
• 41:12
  act
• 41:12
  like
• 41:12
  you're
• 41:13
  in
• 41:13
  a
• 41:13
  place,
• 41:13
  but
• 41:14
  you're
• 41:14
  dressed
• 41:14
  up
• 41:14
  like
• 41:14
  an
• 41:15
  idiot.
• 41:15
  You
• 41:15
  got
• 41:15
  all
• 41:15
  these
• 41:15
  dots
• 41:16
  on
• 41:16
  you.
• 41:17
  I
• 41:17
  remember
• 41:17
  reading
• 41:17
  when
• 41:18
  they
• 41:18
  were
• 41:18
  working
• 41:18
  on.
• 41:19
  On
• 41:20
  The
• 41:20
  Hobbit,
• 41:20
  Ian
• 41:21
  McKellen,
• 41:22
  at
• 41:22
  one
• 41:22
  point,
• 41:22
  because
• 41:23
  that
• 41:23
  movie
• 41:23
  was
• 41:23
  hardcore
• 41:24
  with.
• 41:24
  With
• 41:25
  the
• 41:25
  green
• 41:25
  screen.
• 41:25
  Right.
• 41:26
  And
• 41:26
  at
• 41:26
  one
• 41:26
  point,
• 41:26
  it
• 41:26
  was
• 41:26
  just
• 41:27
  him
• 41:27
  in
• 41:27
  a
• 41:27
  green
• 41:27
  environment
• 41:28
  with.
• 41:28
  Literally
• 41:29
  sticks
• 41:29
  with,
• 41:29
  like,
• 41:29
  a
• 41:30
  picture
• 41:30
  of
• 41:30
  Frodo's
• 41:31
  head.
• 41:31
  And.
• 41:32
  And
• 41:32
  he
• 41:32
  would
• 41:32
  just
• 41:32
  like.
• 41:33
  And
• 41:33
  he.
• 41:33
  He
• 41:34
  just
• 41:34
  started
• 41:34
  crying.
• 41:35
  He's
• 41:35
  like,
• 41:35
  this
• 41:35
  isn't
• 41:36
  acting
• 41:36
  anymore.
• 41:36
  Wow.
• 41:37
  But
• 41:38
  that's
• 41:38
  crazy.
• 41:38
  I
• 41:39
  would
• 41:39
  argue
• 41:39
  that.
• 41:39
  Yes,
• 41:40
  it
• 41:40
  is.
• 41:40
  It's
• 41:40
  literally
• 41:41
  acting.
• 41:41
  Act
• 41:42
  like
• 41:42
  Frodo's
• 41:42
  there,
• 41:42
  buddy.
• 41:43
  That's
• 41:43
  your
• 41:43
  job.
• 41:44
  You
• 41:44
  know
• 41:44
  what
• 41:44
  I
• 41:44
  mean?
• 41:44
  Yeah,
• 41:45
  that's
• 41:45
  true.
• 41:45
  It
• 41:46
  is
• 41:46
  literally
• 41:46
  acting.
• 41:47
  Do
• 41:47
  the.
• 41:47
  I
• 41:48
  mean,
• 41:48
  I.
• 41:48
  I
• 41:48
  can.
• 41:49
  I
• 41:49
  can't
• 41:50
  imagine
• 41:50
  how
• 41:50
  hard
• 41:50
  that
• 41:51
  is.
• 41:51
  But
• 41:51
  that's
• 41:51
  what
• 41:51
  they're
• 41:52
  trained
• 41:52
  to
• 41:52
  do,
• 41:52
  right?
• 41:53
  Yeah.
• 41:54
  Theater
• 41:54
  interacting
• 41:55
  part.
• 41:56
  Yeah.
• 41:56
  Theater
• 41:56
  actors
• 41:57
  are,
• 41:58
  you
• 41:58
  know,
• 41:59
  they
• 41:59
  emote
• 41:59
  more
• 41:59
  and
• 41:59
  they
• 41:59
  have.
• 42:00
  And
• 42:00
  they
• 42:00
  react
• 42:00
  to
• 42:00
  something
• 42:00
  in
• 42:01
  real
• 42:01
  time.
• 42:01
  Yeah.
• 42:01
  But
• 42:02
  when
• 42:02
  you're
• 42:02
  in
• 42:02
  front
• 42:02
  of
• 42:02
  a
• 42:02
  green
• 42:03
  screen
• 42:03
  and
• 42:03
  they
• 42:03
  go,
• 42:03
  okay,
• 42:05
  your
• 42:05
  mom
• 42:05
  just
• 42:06
  died
• 42:06
  and
• 42:06
  your
• 42:07
  dog
• 42:07
  is
• 42:07
  exploding.
• 42:08
  Yeah.
• 42:09
  Oh,
• 42:09
  my
• 42:09
  God.
• 42:09
  And
• 42:09
  they
• 42:09
  have
• 42:09
  to
• 42:10
  do
• 42:10
  it,
• 42:10
  and
• 42:10
  they
• 42:10
  don't
• 42:10
  even
• 42:10
  have
• 42:10
  a
• 42:11
  visual
• 42:11
  for
• 42:11
  it
• 42:11
  or
• 42:11
  anything.
• 42:12
  Yeah,
• 42:12
  that's.
• 42:12
  That's.
• 42:13
  I
• 42:13
  appreciate
• 42:13
  that
• 42:14
  a
• 42:14
  lot.
• 42:14
  You
• 42:14
  have
• 42:14
  to.
• 42:14
  Yeah.
• 42:15
  People
• 42:15
  take
• 42:15
  it
• 42:16
  for
• 42:16
  granted,
• 42:16
  Right.
• 42:16
  Vocalists
• 42:17
  are
• 42:17
  also
• 42:17
  actors.
• 42:19
  You
• 42:19
  can't
• 42:19
  always
• 42:20
  feel
• 42:20
  the
• 42:20
  way
• 42:20
  that
• 42:20
  you
• 42:20
  do
• 42:21
  in
• 42:21
  that
• 42:21
  song.
• 42:21
  You
• 42:21
  have
• 42:21
  to
• 42:21
  turn
• 42:22
  it
• 42:22
  on.
• 42:22
  Yeah,
• 42:22
  yeah.
• 42:23
  To
• 42:23
  go
• 42:23
  from
• 42:23
  like
• 42:25
  a
• 42:25
  grenade
• 42:26
  to,
• 42:26
  like,
• 42:27
  Walking
• 42:27
  on
• 42:28
  the
• 42:28
  Mood
• 42:28
  or
• 42:28
  like
• 42:29
  a
• 42:29
  Treasure
• 42:29
  by
• 42:30
  Bruno
• 42:30
  Mars.
• 42:30
  Like.
• 42:31
  Right.
• 42:31
  You
• 42:31
  can't
• 42:32
  just
• 42:32
  sing
• 42:32
  it
• 42:33
  the
• 42:33
  same
• 42:33
  way
• 42:33
  for
• 42:34
  all
• 42:34
  songs.
• 42:34
  You
• 42:34
  gotta
• 42:35
  be
• 42:35
  mad
• 42:35
  at
• 42:35
  that
• 42:35
  bitch
• 42:35
  for.
• 42:36
  Not
• 42:37
  only
• 42:37
  that,
• 42:37
  when
• 42:37
  you're
• 42:37
  in
• 42:37
  the
• 42:37
  studio
• 42:38
  and
• 42:38
  you're
• 42:38
  doing
• 42:38
  the
• 42:38
  same
• 42:38
  line
• 42:39
  18
• 42:39
  times,
• 42:39
  you're
• 42:40
  like,
• 42:40
  I
• 42:40
  don't
• 42:40
  care
• 42:40
  anymore.
• 42:41
  I
• 42:41
  don't
• 42:41
  care.
• 42:41
  I'm
• 42:42
  over
• 42:42
  it
• 42:42
  now.
• 42:42
  I
• 42:42
  don't
• 42:43
  want
• 42:43
  to
• 42:44
  do
• 42:44
  it.
• 42:44
  Yeah,
• 42:44
  but
• 42:44
  you
• 42:44
  still
• 42:44
  have
• 42:44
  to
• 42:44
  deliver
• 42:45
  that
• 42:45
  way.
• 42:47
  But,
• 42:47
  guys,
• 42:48
  seriously,
• 42:48
  I
• 42:48
  also.
• 42:49
  I
• 42:49
  still
• 42:49
  want
• 42:49
  to
• 42:49
  hone
• 42:50
  into.
• 42:51
  What
• 42:51
  other
• 42:52
  specifics
• 42:52
  do
• 42:52
  you
• 42:52
  have
• 42:52
  for
• 42:53
  the
• 42:53
  future?
• 42:54
  Yeah.
• 42:54
  Okay,
• 42:55
  so
• 42:55
  we
• 42:55
  have,
• 42:56
  in
• 42:57
  addition
• 42:57
  to
• 42:57
  the
• 42:57
  program
• 42:58
  director
• 42:58
  for
• 42:58
  the
• 42:58
  music
• 42:59
  and
• 42:59
  memory
• 42:59
  program,
• 43:00
  we
• 43:00
  also
• 43:00
  have
• 43:01
  a
• 43:01
  couple
• 43:01
  Grammy
• 43:02
  Award
• 43:02
  winners
• 43:02
  that
• 43:03
  we've
• 43:03
  done
• 43:03
  interviews
• 43:03
  with,
• 43:04
  some
• 43:04
  Juno
• 43:05
  Award
• 43:05
  nominees
• 43:05
  and
• 43:06
  winners
• 43:06
  that
• 43:06
  we've
• 43:06
  had
• 43:07
  some
• 43:07
  great
• 43:08
  conversations
• 43:08
  with.
• 43:08
  We
• 43:09
  hope
• 43:09
  to
• 43:09
  have
• 43:10
  comedians
• 43:10
  and
• 43:11
  some
• 43:11
  other
• 43:12
  titans
• 43:12
  of
• 43:12
  industry.
• 43:13
  To
• 43:14
  those
• 43:14
  of
• 43:14
  you
• 43:14
  that
• 43:14
  don't
• 43:14
  know
• 43:15
  American
• 43:15
  listeners,
• 43:16
  the
• 43:16
  genos
• 43:16
  are
• 43:16
  our
• 43:16
  Grammys
• 43:18
  or
• 43:18
  international
• 43:18
  listeners.
• 43:19
  Maybe
• 43:19
  we'll
• 43:19
  get
• 43:19
  a
• 43:19
  couple.
• 43:20
  Yes,
• 43:20
  True
• 43:20
  African,
• 43:20
  South
• 43:21
  American
• 43:21
  listeners.
• 43:21
  Yeah.
• 43:22
  Juno's
• 43:23
  are
• 43:23
  the
• 43:23
  Canadian
• 43:23
  Grammys,
• 43:24
  and
• 43:24
  Drake
• 43:25
  has
• 43:25
  one.
• 43:25
  The
• 43:25
  Weeknd
• 43:26
  has
• 43:26
  one.
• 43:26
  Shawn
• 43:26
  Mendes
• 43:27
  has
• 43:27
  one,
• 43:27
  just
• 43:28
  to
• 43:28
  name
• 43:28
  a
• 43:28
  few.
• 43:29
  Bieber
• 43:29
  has
• 43:29
  one.
• 43:30
  Celine
• 43:30
  Dion
• 43:31
  has
• 43:31
  one.
• 43:32
  I
• 43:32
  mean,
• 43:32
  what
• 43:32
  other
• 43:33
  guests
• 43:33
  do
• 43:34
  you
• 43:34
  know
• 43:34
  that
• 43:34
  we
• 43:34
  have
• 43:34
  lined
• 43:35
  up
• 43:35
  for
• 43:35
  the
• 43:35
  people?
• 43:36
  Yeah,
• 43:37
  I
• 43:37
  think
• 43:37
  that
• 43:37
  covers
• 43:37
  it.
• 43:37
  The
• 43:38
  award
• 43:38
  winners.
• 43:38
  We
• 43:38
  do
• 43:38
  have
• 43:39
  some
• 43:39
  researchers
• 43:40
  that
• 43:40
  will
• 43:40
  give
• 43:41
  more
• 43:41
  insight
• 43:41
  just
• 43:41
  on
• 43:42
  some
• 43:42
  of
• 43:42
  the
• 43:42
  other
• 43:42
  aspects
• 43:43
  of
• 43:43
  music
• 43:44
  and
• 43:44
  the
• 43:44
  mind,
• 43:44
  which
• 43:45
  I'm
• 43:45
  looking
• 43:45
  forward
• 43:45
  to
• 43:45
  as
• 43:46
  well.
• 43:46
  Those
• 43:46
  will
• 43:46
  be
• 43:46
  pretty
• 43:46
  cool,
• 43:47
  but,
• 43:47
  yeah,
• 43:48
  it'll
• 43:48
  be
• 43:49
  fun.
• 43:49
  Yeah.
• 43:49
  Wide,
• 43:50
  wide
• 43:51
  web
• 43:51
  of
• 43:52
  interests.
• 43:53
  And
• 43:53
  in
• 43:54
  order
• 43:54
  to
• 43:54
  hear
• 43:54
  these
• 43:54
  interviews,
• 43:55
  people
• 43:55
  have
• 43:56
  to
• 43:56
  tune
• 43:56
  in
• 43:56
  to
• 43:57
  the
• 43:57
  DNA
• 43:58
  airwaves.
• 43:58
  There
• 43:58
  you
• 43:59
  go.
• 43:59
  Boom,
• 43:59
  boom.
• 44:00
  Good
• 44:00
  to
• 44:00
  know.
• 44:00
  Yep.
• 44:01
  Yeah,
• 44:02
  that's
• 44:02
  it.
• 44:02
  That's
• 44:02
  the
• 44:02
  DNA
• 44:03
  airwaves
• 44:03
  in
• 44:04
  a
• 44:04
  nutshell.
• 44:05
  And
• 44:05
  every
• 44:05
  week,
• 44:06
  we
• 44:06
  hope
• 44:06
  to
• 44:07
  put
• 44:07
  out
• 44:08
  more
• 44:08
  interesting
• 44:09
  content
• 44:09
  that,
• 44:10
  you
• 44:10
  know,
• 44:10
  everybody
• 44:11
  can
• 44:11
  enjoy.
• 44:12
  I'm
• 44:13
  excited,
• 44:13
  man.
• 44:13
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• 44:14
  beyond
• 44:14
  excited,
• 44:14
  and
• 44:15
  I
• 44:15
  hope
• 44:16
  you
• 44:16
  guys
• 44:17
  are,
• 44:17
  too.
• 44:18
  Yeah.
• 44:18
  I
• 44:18
  want
• 44:19
  to
• 44:19
  hear
• 44:19
  from
• 44:19
  all
• 44:20
  these
• 44:20
  different
• 44:20
  guests
• 44:21
  and
• 44:21
  musicians
• 44:21
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• 44:22
  producers
• 44:22
  and.
• 44:24
  Movers
• 44:26
  of
• 44:26
  the
• 44:26
  culture,
• 44:27
  titans
• 44:27
  of
• 44:27
  the
• 44:27
  industry.
• 44:28
  More
• 44:28
  of
• 44:29
  us.
• 44:29
  Yeah,
• 44:30
  a
• 44:30
  lot
• 44:30
  more
• 44:30
  of
• 44:30
  us.
• 44:31
  So
• 44:31
  get
• 44:31
  used
• 44:31
  to
• 44:31
  us,
• 44:31
  because
• 44:32
  we're
• 44:32
  not
• 44:32
  going
• 44:32
  anywhere.
• 44:32
  Goodbye.
• 44:33
  No,
• 44:34
  I'm
• 44:34
  just
• 44:34
  kidding.
• 44:36
  They
• 44:37
  would
• 44:37
  have
• 44:37
  been
• 44:37
  good.
• 44:37
  Yes.
• 44:39
  That's
• 44:39
  it.
• 44:39
  To
• 44:39
  wrap
• 44:39
  it
• 44:39
  up,
• 44:39
  let's
• 44:40
  literally
• 44:40
  wrap
• 44:40
  it
• 44:40
  up
• 44:41
  like
• 44:41
  this.
• 44:57
  As
• 44:57
  a
• 44:58
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• 44:58
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• 44:59
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