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Ian Furness 11/2 H3: Mike Sando, talkbacks, texts, Fact or Fiction and Softy! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 2: Choose Chill. All right, just a few moments ago, we
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  Speaker 2: found out what's going on as far as the Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: are concerned. Indeed, they have activated Jadarian Price. He is
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  Speaker 2: on the 53, man. He will play tonight. Robert Henry Jr.
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  Speaker 2: here for three weeks on the 53-man. Never stepped on
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  Speaker 2: the field. They signed him off the commander's practice squad.
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  Speaker 2: He has been released to make room for him. So
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  Speaker 2: we will see, more than likely, the top three rotation
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  Speaker 2: of running backs that we've been waiting to see all
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  Speaker 2: season with Price, Charbonnet, and Wilson in that order.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe Helani plays?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there's any reason for it to, but
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  Speaker 2: we'll see. All right. Monday Night Football again. 515 Bears
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  Speaker 2: here tonight. Cross out Shahid.
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  Speaker 4: Out.
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  Speaker 2: Bayless Jones, out. Cheninuosu, doubtful, probably out as well. Holmgren, Mike,
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  Speaker 2: that is, will be raising the 12th man flag. You
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  Speaker 2: heard from him earlier today on our show at 1230.
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  Speaker 2: Cole Young is the American League Gold Glove winner at
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  Speaker 2: second base. He joins Brett Boone and Harold Reynolds, the
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  Speaker 2: only ones to ever win that for Seattle. Lupinello named
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  Speaker 2: as a finalist for the Baseball Hall of Fame on
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  Speaker 2: the 2027 Contemporary Era ballot. Kraken made a trade we
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  Speaker 2: just talked about. Shane Wright for Matthew Wood to Nashville.
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  Speaker 2: One-for-one trade. He should be Wood. That is in lineup
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  Speaker 2: on Wednesday when the Kraken host Calgary. They've got their
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  Speaker 2: new Remix jerseys out. They look sensational. If you haven't
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  Speaker 2: seen them, go to SeattleKraken.com. They're available to purchase right now.
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  Speaker 2: It's the anchor is the main logo on the front,
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  Speaker 2: which a lot of us have been waiting for for
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  Speaker 2: a while. Sounders in danger of missing the MLS playoffs
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  Speaker 2: after a 5-1 loss to Vancouver yesterday. They're in the
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  Speaker 2: playoff bubble. We blame Jackson Feltz for all that problems
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  Speaker 2: right there.
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  Speaker 3: It's all his fault. Feltz, get it together.
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  Speaker 2: And there's more quarterback news in the NFL, but I'll
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  Speaker 2: wait until right now when we talk to Mike Sandel
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  Speaker 2: about that.
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  Speaker 1: It's time for our Monday visit with Mike Sando of
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  Speaker 1: or visit HuntServices.com. Now with Mike Sando, here's Ian Furness.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Sando joins us every Monday at this time as
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  Speaker 2: we talk all things NFL, a tour around the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Sando has his Great pick six column up every Monday
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  Speaker 2: at The Athletic, theathletic.com, and the NFL page. And he's
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  Speaker 2: with us now.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, Mike.
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  Speaker 2: How are you?
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  Speaker 4: Great. How are you?
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  Speaker 5: Should be a fun night.
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  Speaker 2: I was just talking to Dick Fain here in a
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  Speaker 2: break a moment ago. I mean, we're sitting here at
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  Speaker 2: Jimmy's on first. And, you know, it's a smaller bar,
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  Speaker 2: but the bar and the restaurant's pretty good size. And
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  Speaker 2: they've got a back room for the bar. It's been
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  Speaker 2: packed since noon. Monday night football. Mike, Monday night football
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  Speaker 2: in Seattle is still a special time. I'll just say that.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: It really, really is. I wonder, you know, are there
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  Speaker 5: a lot of Bear fans running around?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot. I mean, you know, it's always hard.
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  Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you.
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  Speaker 2: It's always hard to tell when we're down here because
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  Speaker 2: we were here for the first game as well on
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  Speaker 2: that Wednesday with Denver. And, you know, you see Patriots
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  Speaker 2: fans kind of like we're seeing Bears fans kind of
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  Speaker 2: sprinkled in.
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  Speaker 3: You just never know what the stadium's going to look like.
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  Speaker 2: Mike, I go back. I've talked about this a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you and I have ever discussed it.
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  Speaker 2: I go back to Pete Carroll's last year and those
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  Speaker 2: back-to-back home games with Pittsburgh and San Francisco when the
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  Speaker 2: opposing fans literally took over Lumen Field for the first
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  Speaker 2: time since really they opened that building. To me, that
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  Speaker 2: was one of the fun, and I heard this, I
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  Speaker 2: heard the rumblings, that that was one of the things
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  Speaker 2: that was not making Jody and Burt Cole very happy.
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  Speaker 2: It's changed a little bit over the years. It's gotten
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  Speaker 2: back to the old days, it feels like.
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  Speaker 5: I think so. I think it has.
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  Speaker 6: You know, it's just, Now, money really talks, and there's
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  Speaker 6: a lot of people who have a lot of it
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  Speaker 6: that are fans of a team, and they're going to
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  Speaker 6: circle certain games and go. And so that does happen.
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  Speaker 6: I think in this case, the Bears, at least they're
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  Speaker 6: not a bunch of red jerseys. Sometimes that looks crazy.
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  Speaker 6: Sometimes that makes it look worse than it actually is
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  Speaker 6: when you can see everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think whether it's the red Niners jerseys or
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  Speaker 2: that year, the yellow of the Steelers just jumped out
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  Speaker 2: at everybody.
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  Speaker 3: But no, I don't know. Listen, it'll be a great
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  Speaker 3: atmosphere tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Again, just judging by how early people got here today,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of excitement for this game. There's quarterback
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  Speaker 2: news all over the NFL. There's a bunch of stuff
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  Speaker 2: I want to get to. I love the piece today.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, I even referenced it when I was doing
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  Speaker 2: a thing with my buddy down in KMBR with John
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  Speaker 2: Lund about the arms race in the NFC compared to,
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  Speaker 2: as you wrote, about the AFC. We'll get to that
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  Speaker 2: in a second. Let's get your thoughts on tonight's matchup,
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  Speaker 2: Seattle and Chicago. It's great on paper. It's a conference game.
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  Speaker 2: Both teams win. Right now we're looking at wild card spots,
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  Speaker 2: but also have designs on the division. This is, for
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  Speaker 2: a first weekend in November, about as big a game
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  Speaker 2: as it gets outside of your own division.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's different from the Kansas City game where
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  Speaker 6: all eyes really were on Kenneth Walker, stop him. I
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  Speaker 6: think the Bears don't necessarily have that, but they have
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  Speaker 6: a lot of different guys with, I think, a really
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  Speaker 6: great schemer in Ben Johnson and a quarterback who is
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  Speaker 6: In some ways, he's not as good as Patrick Mahomes,
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  Speaker 6: but he's younger and can run around in a way
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  Speaker 6: that I think there's going to be plays to be
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  Speaker 6: made on both sides where really the question to me
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  Speaker 6: is can Seattle make two of his three off-schedule plays
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  Speaker 6: be bad, right?
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  Speaker 5: Versus him being able to make two of three of
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  Speaker 5: them good.
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  Speaker 6: I think that's really what a lot of this is
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  Speaker 6: going to come down to because they will probably speed
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  Speaker 6: him up a little bit and yet he can He
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  Speaker 6: can do some amazing things with his feet and his arm.
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  Speaker 6: I still think Seattle at home with that defense will
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  Speaker 6: be difficult for him on the whole.
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  Speaker 3: Where did you have him in the quarterback tiers, Caleb Williams?
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  Speaker 6: He moved up, I believe, to number 11, so he
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  Speaker 6: was pretty high into tier 2. He may have been
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  Speaker 6: more like 15, actually. He and Drake May both moved
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  Speaker 6: up into So he was definitely up there.
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  Speaker 2: Is he a great example of how coaching can really make–
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you can have all the talent in the world,
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  Speaker 2: and if you get to this level, even if you're
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  Speaker 2: a backup, Tanner McKee, for example, I mean, what have you,
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  Speaker 2: it's just like you're still really good. Like on the planet,
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  Speaker 2: you're one of the top however many guys, 65 guys
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  Speaker 2: in the world doing this for a living. But you
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  Speaker 2: need to have the stuff around you. It just feels
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  Speaker 2: like Ben Johnson really was kind of the magic potion
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  Speaker 2: that's getting the most out of Caleb Williams.
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  Speaker 5: No doubt.
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  Speaker 6: And remember the players have to buy into, I think
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  Speaker 6: that's been a big thing with, with, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 6: Caleb Williams, when he first got there, it was kind
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  Speaker 6: of a mess and, and, you know, you're just not gonna,
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  Speaker 6: you can't fool the players, you know, and I think
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  Speaker 6: everybody knows that Ben Johnson really can put them in position, uh,
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  Speaker 6: to do well and be their best. And so that's
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  Speaker 6: how you get the best out of the guys. And
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  Speaker 6: I think they've done, they've done that with Caleb Williams.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I think there's still a next step for him.
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  Speaker 6: I think the attention to detail at that position and,
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  Speaker 6: what really goes into being the absolute best. Coaching can't
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  Speaker 6: do that, but, man, he has so much ability that
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  Speaker 6: when you pair him, when you give him some of
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  Speaker 6: the run game stuff they can do and have the
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  Speaker 6: good scheme, I mean, it can be pretty dynamic.
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  Speaker 4: It's the best.
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  Speaker 5: And we saw that they scored 59 points in a game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're special.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Sando joining us from The Athletic, theathletic.com. Pick 6
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  Speaker 2: Calm is up there for you right now. Mike, let's
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  Speaker 2: go around the league. And, boy, there's just a ton
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  Speaker 2: of quarterback news. We'll start first with the one that's
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  Speaker 2: really kind of, to be honest with you, I'll do
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  Speaker 2: respect Arizona, not near the top of the list. But
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  Speaker 2: interesting that they have come out down there. And Michael
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  Speaker 2: Fleur in Arizona just a short time ago saying, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Brissette's on the bench. We're going with Gardner Minshew. And
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  Speaker 2: Carson Beck is number two, which may make him the
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  Speaker 2: future number one. Because Minshew could give you a game
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  Speaker 2: or two. He's not a full-time starter. Go Cougs. But
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  Speaker 2: interesting news out of Arizona just a few minutes ago.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're definitely a step closer.
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  Speaker 6: I think for Kershen Beck, I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 6: fair to him with that team to ask him to
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  Speaker 6: go a whole season or even half of the season.
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  Speaker 6: But maybe this just gets him a step closer.
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  Speaker 5: You see how it goes with Minshew.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe it's a couple of games. But I think we're
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  Speaker 6: definitely going to see enough games of Beck for them
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  Speaker 6: to be able to make maybe some kind of a
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  Speaker 6: decision in the offseason as to where he fits into it.
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  Speaker 2: For Seahawks fans, Minshew's debut as a starter this year
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  Speaker 2: with Arizona comes next week against Seattle, against the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: That's a nice soft landing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt.
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  Speaker 6: They probably don't want Carson Beck playing that game, put
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  Speaker 6: it that way.
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  Speaker 3: I would think so.
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  Speaker 2: What do the Baltimore Ravens do now? Lamar Jackson and
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Huntley, both with long-term injuries.
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  Speaker 6: To me, they're just not going to be you know, uh,
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  Speaker 6: a very good team. I just haven't seen the consistency
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  Speaker 6: really in any phase for them. And you would probably
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  Speaker 6: more if Lamar Jackson were healthy, but, uh, to, to me,
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  Speaker 6: you know, they're going to have to get a quarterback.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if they're going to be able to
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  Speaker 6: get Beijing away from Chicago. That would make the most sense.
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  Speaker 6: They have a game Thursday, so he's not going to
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  Speaker 6: help them. You know, they're, they're going to be, uh,
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  Speaker 6: they're not getting Kirk cousins, you know?
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  Speaker 5: So I think they're just going to be in trouble.
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  Speaker 2: That's just, there's, and, I'm curious about something.
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  Speaker 3: I go back.
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  Speaker 2: I'm referencing my conversation for the second time with Lund
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  Speaker 2: today down at KMBR. We had this conversation. It's a
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  Speaker 2: really interesting dynamic around the league. You're far enough into
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  Speaker 2: the season, you know, halfway point or thereabouts with the
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  Speaker 2: 17-game schedule, that you kind of know who the teams
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  Speaker 2: are that are the haves and the have-nots. But there's
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  Speaker 2: also a line probably, too, right, Mike, between are you
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  Speaker 2: a playoff team or are you a contender? And that's
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  Speaker 2: kind of what we saw last week with some of
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  Speaker 2: the trades that were being made. Teams that are in,
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  Speaker 2: I guess, what you want to call it a go-for-it mode, right?
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  Speaker 2: Making those moves, whether it be Seattle, Chicago, the 49ers.
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  Speaker 2: We saw it in the offseason with the Rams. Is
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  Speaker 2: it safe to say there is a difference between, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we think we can get to the playoffs, which would
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  Speaker 2: be great, or we're truly a contending team?
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  Speaker 5: I think there definitely is. Those teams that.
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  Speaker 6: Actually can go you know maybe get to the Super
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  Speaker 6: Bowl I think they kind of show themselves by some
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  Speaker 6: of the moves that they make and you don't see
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  Speaker 6: as much kind of these marginal fringe teams doing that
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  Speaker 6: and some of that is you know the players that
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  Speaker 6: you're acquiring especially if they're a meaningful player they don't
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  Speaker 6: want to you can't fool them they don't want to
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  Speaker 6: go to some team that isn't that good right and
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  Speaker 6: in some cases they don't want to go to certain
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  Speaker 6: cities I think that's a part of it too and
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  Speaker 6: so you see you know, you see guys going to
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  Speaker 6: LA where they may not want to go to even
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  Speaker 6: Kansas city.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I, I bring that up because I look,
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  Speaker 2: just look in the NFC. Like I don't think anybody
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  Speaker 2: in the NFC East is a contender and I don't
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  Speaker 2: think anybody in the NFC South is a contender, but
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  Speaker 2: you could probably make an argument that everybody in the
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  Speaker 2: NFC North, I know people maybe push back on Detroit
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, but, I mean, everyone in the NFC
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  Speaker 2: North and three of the four in the NFC West.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you could make an argument that there's seven
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  Speaker 2: teams in the NFC that are real true contenders for
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  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought it was interesting that the Giants let
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  Speaker 6: it be known, I think, that they were going after
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  Speaker 6: Jeffrey Simmons, too.
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  Speaker 5: Really?
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  Speaker 6: You know, to me, with where they're at, it sort
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  Speaker 6: of feels like first-year program. They're finding their way at quarterback. So,
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  Speaker 6: you know, not that they ended up getting him, but
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  Speaker 6: I thought that was kind of interesting that that got out,
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  Speaker 6: that John Harbaugh– actually called the owner of the Titans
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  Speaker 6: trying to get that done kind of signaling that they
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  Speaker 6: think they're in that group but to me they're a
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  Speaker 6: division winner by default group that won't go anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: What'd you think of the moves that were made we'll
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  Speaker 2: start here in Seattle with Quinton Nelson coming to the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 6: I just love that move you know you just you
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  Speaker 6: almost can't believe they did it even though it's logical
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  Speaker 6: don't you feel that way like yeah there's you know
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  Speaker 6: Until it actually happens, you're like, wow, they just got
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  Speaker 6: Quentin Nelson. You know, they used a first-round pick on
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  Speaker 6: Gray Zabel, so they had a lot of excuses or
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  Speaker 6: reasons why you wouldn't make a move. And, hey, you're
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  Speaker 6: getting this guy back or whatever, and you're going to
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  Speaker 6: get your running backs back. So I think it's just
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  Speaker 6: a real aggressive why-not-us type of a move that really
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  Speaker 6: gives them not just depth on the line, but, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: it gives you really a front-line leader and somebody– who
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  Speaker 6: can help define your offensive line, I think.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a, you know, listen, not just
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  Speaker 2: because of the position, but just the attitude. It feels
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  Speaker 2: like there's a lot of Steve Hutchinson qualities to him
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  Speaker 2: in the sense that Hutch raised everyone. Everyone else was
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  Speaker 2: bigger with Hutch, right? When Hutch was here, everyone else
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  Speaker 2: was bigger. Same thing when he went to Minnesota. When
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  Speaker 2: Hutch left here, they still had good players. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Lockwood was still here. Jones was still here. Robbie still
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  Speaker 2: had a year left. Chris might have retired. But it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't the same because that guy, an attitude guy on
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  Speaker 2: the offensive line, that makes a difference as much as
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  Speaker 2: the play.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and Chris Crater definitely did not retire. I think
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  Speaker 6: he hasn't formally retired yet. I think he would play
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  Speaker 6: this week if they gave him a call. I see
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  Speaker 6: him every couple years. He's a good one.
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  Speaker 5: He's a gamer. But, yeah, I think Hutch totally brought
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  Speaker 5: that to the line.
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  Speaker 6: And everyone, you know, that line– I think each one
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  Speaker 6: of those guys brought something to it, but Hutchinson definitely
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  Speaker 6: gave it the, hey, no one's going to pick on
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  Speaker 6: you in the bar type of a thing. And I
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  Speaker 6: think that's definitely, Quentin Nelson has some of that, in
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  Speaker 6: addition to just being a great player. I mean, that
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  Speaker 6: many all pros, and I think he's definitely got a
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  Speaker 6: few really good seasons left.
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  Speaker 5: So to have that.
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  Speaker 6: Fall into your lap, when you think about where they've
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  Speaker 6: been on the offensive line you know, over a lot
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  Speaker 6: of the last 10 or even 15 years, kind of
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  Speaker 6: since that group, right, with Hutchinson. It just feels like
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  Speaker 6: a great luxury to be able to add that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I would, you know, the one thing that it
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  Speaker 2: feels like the San Francisco 49ers have in common with
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  Speaker 2: John Schneider, they love bringing back their old players. Schneider
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  Speaker 2: did it with Bruce Irvin, with Frank Clark, with Marshawn Lynch, etc.,
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  Speaker 2: and whether it be Debo Samuel or now, I guess,
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  Speaker 2: DeForest Buckner. Let's bring them on back to San Francisco.
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  Speaker 2: How about that move?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: I like the move for them. I think Buckner's still
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  Speaker 6: a good player. He's not a dominant player, but you
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  Speaker 6: just know what you're going to get, and I think
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  Speaker 6: sometimes so many times with trades, there is a tie-in
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  Speaker 6: on the staff anyway. There's a coordinator or position coach
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  Speaker 6: who had the person, and it just gives you confidence
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  Speaker 6: that they're going to come in and you know what
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  Speaker 6: you're going to get. I think that's It's one of
• 14:48
  Speaker 6: the things that's been hard about trading sometimes in the
• 14:51
  Speaker 6: past is the fit, but now these coaches move around
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: so much.
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: Staffs move around.
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: I think there's probably more connections than there used to
• 15:01
  Speaker 6: be just because guys change places and now.
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: They get reunited.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: We get to see Jeffrey Simmons tonight. That certainly helps
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears. That is a big-time pickup.
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 15:13
  Speaker 6: What a great pickup in terms of what he's going
• 15:16
  Speaker 6: to give them right now. They obviously gave up a lot,
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: but the contract's pretty good for them. Again, how often
• 15:21
  Speaker 6: do you add a player like that? He's probably the
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: best player on their defense. He may be the best
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: defensive player in that division. I know Aiden Hutchinson and
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: others are there, but that's just an amazing type of
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: player to get.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: Wrap it up with this with Mike.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: You've covered this league for a long time, so you've
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: covered Jerry Jones for a long time. That was a
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: bad loss yesterday. I think we'd all agree upon that.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Whether it be Schottenheimer, I mean, Christian Parker just hasn't
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: worked as a D coordinator, but they've been going through
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: those like Seattle Mariners go through hitting coaches, so I
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: don't know what the problem is. I think we kind
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: of know what the problem is, the head of the snake,
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: but what's your read on what's going on down in Dallas?
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: It was so patented. To me, it's just exactly what
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: happened to them. They won a game last week, and
• 16:07
  Speaker 6: now everyone's talking about how good they are.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: And that includes the people like.
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: Some of the stuff coming out of there, just like
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: the coverage of the team, was like, hey, okay, now
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: they can do this, this, and this. In the back
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: of my mind, I was just thinking, you've got to
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: beat Arizona. They've lost to Arizona so many times. That's
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: the Cowboys. Get a little full of themselves.
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: Get excited.
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: They really are kind of a marketing operation in the
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: end through their owner, and it just feels like that
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: to me, that they just can't handle success even in
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: the short term.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to put words in your mouth. I'm
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: going to say it.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: There are times because of how they operate and how
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: you described it, they're kind of more unserious about football
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: winning than just.
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's just, well, people, people who've coached there
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: say that, I mean, it's just, it's a different feel.
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: I mean, you, you've heard the stories about how at the,
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: you know, at the star, you know, their big, uh, complex,
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: there's fans coming through on tours and they can see
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: through the glass to, you know, inside the zoo when
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: people are at work.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: It's crazy to me. I, it is. I, I did
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: their preseason game here. Actually, I'm doing the Monday night
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: game here, too, for National Radio, and I'm looking through
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: their media guide, and the amount of pages devoted to
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: the Jones family's bios.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Remarkable. Like, it's remarkable. Now, I didn't know Stephen was
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: land man, and like an oil engineer in a sense.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Like, that's what he studied. But, I mean, so I
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: found that somewhat fascinating. It could be on with Billy
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Bob or whatever.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: But, like, I'm reading through that, and it's, all this,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: it's like a book on them, and then, oh, here,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: by the way, here's Dak Prescott, and here's his final.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: And they're all kind of interesting people, and when you're
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: around them, they're pretty nice, and they're thoughtful, you know,
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: and they're interesting, and that sort of a thing, but,
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: you know, everyone owns the team. Everyone gets something different
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: out of owning the team. Some people, Jeffrey Lurie bought
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: the Eagles. He loves the draft. You know, he's all
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: about the draft. He's interested in that. Jerry Jones, you know,
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: he played football. He's a football guy, but he loves
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: the He loves to be in the spotlight and have
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: it be a business and that part of it. So
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: they're all different, but man, that's different from just about
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: anybody else in terms of that much of an overt
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: emphasis on the marketing of the team.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, Paul Allen loved the NBA draft,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: I can tell you that.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: That's why Martel Webster and Quintel Woods and some of
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: those guys were there.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's, hey, you know what? You're the guy
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: paying the money. That's your job.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: But luckily, the NFL draft luckily wasn't his thing, so
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: it worked out better here for the football team.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Mike, great stuff.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I know you're on later in the week with the boys,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: so enjoy Monday Night Football tonight, and we'll.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Talk to you next week.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: Hey, you too.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Thanks.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: That's Mike Sandoz, the great Mike Sandoz from The Athletic, theathletic.com.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: We've got Factor Fiction, your text, talkbacks as well. Let's
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: get ready for Monday Night Football, Seahawks and Bears, live
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: from Jimmy's on First, next.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: Hey, I'm excited for the Matthew Wood trade for Shane Wright.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: It's pretty simple.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, you've explained it extremely well.
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: Ian, sorry, I forgot your name, even though I've been
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: listening to you forever.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Appreciate that.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: All the way back from Elise and Ian or whatever
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: that show was called.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Ian and I at night is what it was called.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Go Kraken.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: Go Seahawks.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Go everybody.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: I thought that was really great.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: I appreciate that. I got a couple texts.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: 49451 on the Tacoma Dodge text line.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: 49451.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: There they are.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Hey, how are you?
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Listen, all these people text. Factor Fiction starts in three minutes.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: And I got a great pick.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I've got a $ 1, 000 money lock of the week pick. Oh,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I love this. Yeah.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Maybe local.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Okay. Okay.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I wonder what you might be doing.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Let's see.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Got a lot of comments on Coach Holmgren coming in.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Brought tears to my eyes, says one of our texters.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Miss hearing him. Great to hear him still with Softee
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: and Dick every week.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: I agree. Mike was my best coach. My favorite as
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: a person, too.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Panther Seahawks crowd noise has never been matched. Seahawks
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: fans say don't get close to that. That's a question
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: for Fane and Softee later. I don't know if that's
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: the case. I know that that Carolina game was off
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: the hook. It was also different because it was the
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: first conference championship game here. The San Francisco game, the
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: conference title game, the Packers title game, the two-point conversion.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Jermaine Kearse caught that ball. I've never seen a stadium
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: go like that. So we're basically talking about our favorite
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: children here. And, I mean, we all have them.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we do.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Wait, I only have one.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: So she is my favorite most of the time.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: I won't say that she's my favorite. I didn't say that, Kiefer.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. It's all right, fella. It's all right, fella.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: He might be listening on the way down. No, but
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I'm going to.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Tell you right now, this place is going to be
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: nuts tonight. It's going to be crazy tonight.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I can feel it right now. Dick and I were
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: talking a minute ago. This place is more packed than
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: it was. Now, there are all of a sudden a
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: lot of Bears fans here, and I'm not liking that
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: No.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: I don't like that.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: It's all right.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: As I said, we send them home at the same rate. Hey,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: hold your mic up. I want you to do something
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: for me. This is so dumb.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: I hate when people bring this up.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Stop.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: I want you to do something for me. I want
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: you to do something for me.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Just stop.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Stop talking.
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: Stand up. Yes.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: I'm going to get my video rolling.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Get them going.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: What are you going to do?
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: You know how. It's the CR. Get them going.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Hang on.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Hey, we got these CF fans in here!
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: Where you at? C! C! C! C!
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: Bears! There you go.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Here's the problem.
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: The problem with us coming down here and going on
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: the air and saying, God, there's Bears fans everywhere. We're
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: in a freaking hotel. Of course there's going to be
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: Bears fans here.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Relax.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Sando had a great point earlier. The good news is
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: with Bears fans, most of the stuff they wear is dark.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: You won't notice them.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: It's not like when the Steelers roll in here with
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: that yellow or your friends, the 49ers.
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: I don't know if I've ever been in a room
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: with as many people that have been on work release
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: from prison as I am right now.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: With these two guys.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: With these Bears fans. No, those are Hawk fans. They're
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: good to go.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: They're also Husky fans.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: It's like they're all in the witness protection program, right?
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: They act like they're dressing up like Mike Ditka, but
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: really they're hiding from somebody.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: That's what it is.
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: Every single one has the same stupid mustache and the
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: same stupid glasses.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: And the vest. And cholesterol is sky high. They've all
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: had five heart attacks, right? Every single one of them.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. The best thing is.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: That's number 12, Bob. Right there.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Softie, the best thing is... They all look like Norm
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: from Cheers. The best thing about these guys... Like, there's
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: more vests than I've ever seen in my life. The
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: sweater vest is like the official uniform of these guys.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: Well, because that was the last time they were good. Yeah.
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: I mean, look, you can argue Grossman, the Super Bowl
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: in Miami against the Colts.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Hester takes the opening kickoff back.
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: You guys think you've got a chance against Peyton Manning,
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: and then he craps all over you.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Let's face it. Chicago Bear football. And you know this,
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: all right? Okay. First of all, that guy's Polish. We
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: all know it, number one.
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: And number two, he also knows the last time the
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: Bears were relevant was 40 years ago when this guy
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: was probably 20 years old.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Honestly.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: That guy was 30.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Hey, how old were you in 86? That guy was 30.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: 85.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: How old were you?
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: 14 years old.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: He was the same age as me is what he's saying.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to get to Factor Fiction. I'll
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: talk to you in a minute. All right, that's enough.
• 24:04
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• 24:24
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  Speaker 2: Eagle Casino and Hotel. Ashley, let me take a quick
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: look at last week, how we did. Winning week for
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: this show. A winning week for this show. We can't
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: say that every week. I'll tell you that. You did great.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: A winning week in this show. Were you guys 5-0, Fane?
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: They were, yeah. Fane and Jackson and Sawtooth. I don't
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: count Jackson's picks. He takes the under all the time,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: and that's just absolutely... Soft move, I'll just say that.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: We were 3-2. Ashley's collaborative effort with myself on Monday, collaboration,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: didn't work out. No, it did not. I failed you.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: You with Minnesota plus 20.5 against IU, nailed it. I
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: nailed Jacksonville, Indianapolis at halftime, minus 10. I mean, the
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Colts had tapped out at that point. You were wrong
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: on Carolina plus 3.5 at Green Bay. And I nailed
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: the Husky pick, plus seven and a half at Nebraska.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I also told you guys they'd win outright.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Did I not? Did I not say they'd win outright?
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: I did. Yes, you did.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: You did.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: All right, so we're doing a lot better. So you
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: know what?
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Just go with the girl that you brought to the
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: dance in the first place. Just go right back to her.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: My prom date says, ask me again. I went to
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: junior prom with you. I'll go to senior prom with you.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Oh, no.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Huskies minus 2.5 against Penn State. Fact all day long.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: That is a lock. Penn State under Mike Campbell is
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: not good. They're 1-4 in the Big Ten. Washington, it
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: doesn't even matter who their quarterback is as long as
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Lawson goes up and makes one-handed catches on the sideline.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: End of story.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Washington's going to win. Minus 2.5. I was thinking that
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: would be closer to a five-point spread.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: No.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: I only need 2.5. I need a field goal to win.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Washington minus 2.5.
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: Fact.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: 4-9-4-5-1.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: If you disagree, fiction 4-9-4-5-1. And yes, this is a
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: hedge bet.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Because if for some reason it's close or they lose, well,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: we all still win, right?
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Isn't that how it works?
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: That's right. But I honestly, Penn State is a mess
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: right now. Rocco Beck has not been great. It's a
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: great once again rule, or not rule, good little lesson
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: again in college football. New coach, great. New coach brings
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: old players. It's not always going to be JMU. Sometimes
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: those players aren't as good. And that's the case. And
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Penn State's going to get rocked by the Huskies on Saturday.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Washington minus two and a half, fact, 49451. If you disagree, fiction, 49451.
• 26:41
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• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I don't think I've seen who's won yet this week.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Have we seen that?
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: No, we've not gotten that email yet. Because Anders is
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: hosting a morning show. He's kind of a big deal.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: That's beneath him. So we may get that next week.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: But anyway, that's the pick.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: You like the pick, Ashley?
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: I like the pick.
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: And I would like to also say to Keith, really,
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: our listener who loves the hawk slash eagle scream, I apologize.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Someone removed it from my board here, and I can't
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: find it now.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: What happened? Someone went in and messed.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: With my stuff. And so it's missing. So I don't
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: remember where I saved it. So now I've got to
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: find it again. This is going to be a bigger question.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Have they removed Softie's screen, too? Oh, probably not.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Oh, because I'm going to.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Tell you right now, if that happens, he's going to
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: log in. I can't wait to see what happens then.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: If you touch my stuff, there's going to be hell
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: to pay.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you that right now. That's what's happening right here.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Lighten up, Francis. What movie is that from?
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: I think that's from Stripes. Thank you.
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: I think Ashley would have a better time harassing somebody
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: than I would, by the way.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Found it.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Found it. There we go. Just in time.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: All right, one more time.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Sounds like user error then, huh?
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: One more time.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Washington minus two and a half fact, 49451. Text in
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: right now. If you text fiction, you're not going to
• 28:01
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• 28:01
  Speaker 3: It's as simple as that. All right, we'll take a break.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Come back.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Softy, you haven't heard enough of him yet. He's going
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: to join us again. Fane's powering through what looks to
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: be a hell of a chef salad maybe.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Very little looking here. Jimmy's on first. We'll wrap it
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: up next.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Back here. Jimmy's on first. Our guy got them all
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: revved up a minute ago. Let's go.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Let's go.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: There was a debate on the text line earlier.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: What's the debate? Potstickers, fried or steamed?
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Fried, always.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: I'm with you, Ashley, 1,000%. You've got to have that
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: burnt bottom.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Otherwise, they're a dumpling. But it's got to be steamed,
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: then fried.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Otherwise, a dumpling.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: You know what? For a dumb guy, that's the smartest
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: thing you've ever said. Well, I know. Honestly.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: You know what? Dumb knows dumb.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: It's incredible. All right. Loudest Lumen's been? For me, you're
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: not going to like it.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: You're not going to like it.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: I told these guys.
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: Now, when you say loud, you mean loud for a
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: split second or loud for the majority of the game?
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Okay, we can actually split it in two.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's do a split in two.
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: The loudest, I swear to God, that I've ever heard
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: Lumen field was when we scored the equalizer in the
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: U.S.-Belgium game at the World Cup.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: I've never heard it that loud.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Let's take soccer off the table.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: We talked about that. I can agree with that.
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: The decibel meter actually showed it was the loudest recording
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: or like the second loudest recording ever at Lumen. I
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: was sitting three rows from the top deck right underneath
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: the roof.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: So I was in a primo spot for noise.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, because it's reverberating.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: That one goal. was the loudest I've ever heard.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Take soccer off the table for a Seahawks game.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Loudest game start to finish and loudest it's been.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: But Lumen, not the Kingdome.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Lumen.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: 2005 NFC Championship.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's what I thought.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Carolina.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: That's what I thought. I thought you would say that.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: I wondered, to me, loudest moment.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: Right, right.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Jermaine's touchdown in the championship game.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Packers. I think people tend to forget what happened
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: when that was Bedlam. The tip was right there, but
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: a game-ending play to go to the Super Bowl, that
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: place was.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: It really does depend on where you're sitting in the stadium.
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: If you're sitting in the front row and you've got
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: nothing but open air in front of you, but if
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: you're sitting in the upper deck and the noise is
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: bouncing right off the roof into your ear canal, it's
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: going to sound a little bit different. And again, I
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: was in a different spot for that World Cup match
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: against Belgium. But yeah, the 05 NFC Championship, the 13-9er game,
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: that game against the Packers, obviously. I mean, they're all loud, right?
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: I mean, I just tend to judge it one way.
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: How long do my ears ring for when the game
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: is over?
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Perfect.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Do you have a voice tomorrow?
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: Carolina game, my ears rang until probably Tuesday night.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: All right, and the game was on a Sunday.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Well, I bring that up because, as you know, we
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: had Mike on earlier. I appreciate you lending him to
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: us for a day. And, you know, we were talking
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: about when the 12th man flag started and all that stuff.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: And, you know, kind of his legacy here. And, I mean,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: that was Mike starting all that, right? That was, I mean,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: that's when this place became a home field advantage after
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: they moved back from Kingdome Husky Stadium to here is,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: And that's when it changed. And, you know, you've been
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: to a ton of stadiums.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: I've been to a ton.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: I think Detroit's one that can rival Seattle for loud noise.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: You were there three years.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Ago, right?
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we were there after we played Michigan State. 2023.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Now, the difference there was it was loud as hell
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: early because they were coming off a huge win the
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: week before. I think they beat the defending Super Bowl champs,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: whatever it was, right?
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Right. And then Seattle quieted that crowd pretty quick.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: And knocked them down. But that place got loud for Detroit.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Kansas City, to me, is the most overrated loud stadium.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: In the country.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Never been to Arrowhead.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you right now, you can pump
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: up your little decibel meter all you want.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, man. The atmosphere in Lincoln on Saturday.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: It looked good.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it looked good.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: I mean, I've never seen, first of all, I've never
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: seen a crowd that packed 45 minutes before the game.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Like already in the seats.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: Already in the seats.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: That's very unlike us in the Northwest.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Well, and I sent this picture to Dick and Jackson.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: It was about a half an hour before the game.
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: So the game kicked off at like 7 o'clock. That
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: says 6.30, right?
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: Right there. This is the crowd a half an hour
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: before the game.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: That's insane.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: 30 minutes.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: That's insane.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Completely packed.
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: And the amount of people they put in that stadium
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: for a team that hasn't been that good for a while,
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: by the way. I realize there's not a lot to
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: do there. in Lincoln, but it was amazing. The atmosphere
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: in the crowd was nuts. And then obviously after the game,
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: people throwing bottles, they had black balloons coming out of
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: the stands. It was Troy Dannen's idea, that knucklehead idiot,
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: our former AD, to have black balloons come out of
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: the stands on blackout night. And the balloons were going
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: to the ground immediately. because they had Michelob Ultras attached
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: to them. And they were hitting the sidelines and hitting
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: the field. People were throwing water bottles.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Did you grab a couple?
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: No.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: I wasn't able to get out there, but I had
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: a couple after the game. But, yeah, they were pissed, man.
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: I mean, this perception of Nebraska fans being– welcoming and
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: nice and calm and behaved.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: They were the exact opposite, man.
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: I've never been in a stadium where more crap was
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: chucked from the stands after the game than I was
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: on Saturday in Lincoln.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Well, I saw it.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, you saw the stuff with Matt Rule, like
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: somebody accosted his 13-year-old daughter.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, come on, people.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: What the hell is wrong?
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: How are we feeling tonight?
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: I feel good. I mean, you're at home. You've got
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: the best record on Monday Night Football in the history
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: of the NFL.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: How do you not feel good about it? You've got
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Quentin Nelson mad at the world.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: You got Quentin Nelson, man of the world.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: You got your two top running backs.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, man.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: No excuse.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: No excuse. This is what you want. I mean, this
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: is another. It's going to be another.
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: Opportunity for John Schneider and Mike McDonald to figure out
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: if they need to make a move at running back
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: before the deadline. And if Jadarian Price and Jack Charbonnet
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: don't get it done tonight, you'll have one more game,
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: which is next Sunday against your guy Gardner Minshew.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Gardner's like, really? I didn't sign up for this. Who's
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: going to be starting? You see they made Jacoby Brissett QB3.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: He's QB3.
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: Carson Beck's number two.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: So they've dumped his ass.
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: He went from wanting a new deal over the offseason
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: to now getting benched. He may be inactive for next
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: week's game, for God's sakes. But, yeah, I mean, that
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: really is kind of what this is all about now.
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: I mean, obviously tonight about getting a win, but. Dude,
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: you've got eight quarters to figure out if you need
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: to make a move at the deadline.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: We'll see. To me, the price thing is simple. As
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: long as he holds on to the football, you're fine.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: But I mentioned that to Hugh. I know you guys
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: have Hugh at four.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: That's in the back of my mind. Like that is
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: in the back of my mind. How could it not be?
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's in the back of mind. Actually, it's
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: in the front of my mind. It's a small mind,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: you know. It's a very small mind. There's only a
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: couple of rooms. It's a small condominium.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: No vacancy, Softy.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: No vacancy.
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: It's in the back of my mind now, just like
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: for Nebraska Saturday night when the Huskies got the ball,
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: you know, down four. it was in the back of
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: their mind that they've pissed away more leads in the
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: fourth quarter than any team in college football. And it
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: happened again on Saturday night in Lincoln. So I don't
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: know how these things cannot be in the back of
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: your mind. All right, what do you got coming up?
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: Kurt Warner with a K will join us. He's in
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: town with Kevin Harlan calling the game. He'll join us
• 35:05
  Speaker 7: at 3.20 on the radio show. Hugh Millen at 4
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: o'clock today. Obviously, we'll talk about the win over Nebraska Saturday,
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: but also mostly focused on tonight's game with the Bears.