Latest / The Sean O'Connell Show / Sammy Mora on Saturday's rivalry game, Utah No. 3 in the 1st CFP rankings, Important recruiting weekend + more
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- 1:03Speaker 1: All right. Utah welcoming BYU to the friendly confines of
- 1:09Speaker 1: Rice-Eckel Stadium this weekend. Morning kickoff, 10 a.m.
- 1:12Speaker 2: Game.
- 1:13Speaker 1: There's been plenty of conversation about that, how it will
- 1:16Speaker 1: potentially affect things. Having talked with a couple players and coaches,
- 1:21Speaker 1: both sides, both teams are going to be adjusting their
- 1:24Speaker 1: schedules this week earlier wake-up, some film studies, some mandatory workouts,
- 1:30Speaker 1: things like that in the morning, before school, before class,
- 1:34Speaker 1: so that you're getting your body going and acclimated as
- 1:37Speaker 1: much as you can to that 10 a.m.
- 1:39Speaker 3: Kickoff.
- 1:40Speaker 1: On game day itself, you know, hopefully we'll get some
- 1:43Speaker 1: further insight from the coaches. We have Coordinator's Corner coming
- 1:47Speaker 1: up on Friday. Remind me to ask Colton Swann about it,
- 1:50Speaker 1: but the routine can be altered a little bit on
- 1:54Speaker 1: game day. But not too much, right, to accommodate the
- 1:58Speaker 1: early wake-up. In any case, it's going to be an
- 2:02Speaker 1: incredible game. It is between two top ten teams for
- 2:04Speaker 1: the very first time in the history of the Holy
- 2:06Speaker 1: War rivalry. Joining us now to talk about it on
- 2:08Speaker 1: a Ute Zone Wednesday, Sammy Mora, friend of the program,
- 2:14Speaker 1: Utes insider.
- 2:15Speaker 3: Hi, Sammy.
- 2:16Speaker 2: Welcome.
- 2:17Speaker 3: Hey, Sean.
- 2:17Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing all right. Hanging out. You know,
- 2:20Speaker 1: we're almost there. Big game coming up this weekend, undefeated
- 2:25Speaker 1: Utah football team. And we'll start there, you know, just
- 2:30Speaker 1: the magnitude of the matchup, the fact that never before
- 2:34Speaker 1: in the 104-year history of this rivalry has it been
- 2:38Speaker 1: two top 10 teams squaring off. What are your thoughts
- 2:41Speaker 1: on just the overall magnitude of this game?
- 2:44Speaker 2: I think this is what people have always wanted with
- 2:46Speaker 2: this game. Regionally, locally, everyone knows.
- 2:51Speaker 3: How important this game is and how big it is.
- 2:54Speaker 2: But for both teams to be playing at such a
- 2:56Speaker 2: high level right now, it's kind of added that national
- 3:00Speaker 2: view on the game. I've seen more national outlets talk
- 3:04Speaker 2: about this game this week than I think I've ever seen,
- 3:07Speaker 2: even when... either Utah or BYU.
- 3:09Speaker 3: Is ranked or you know last year I.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong both teams were ranked headed
- 3:13Speaker 2: into that game like there was not as much national
- 3:16Speaker 2: coverage about the game but this year I think it's
- 3:18Speaker 2: just because of you know where Utah's at where BYU's
- 3:22Speaker 2: at that more people nationally are taking look at this
- 3:24Speaker 2: game and honestly in my opinion it's deserved like this
- 3:26Speaker 2: game is is probably one of the more underrated rivalries
- 3:30Speaker 2: nationally and I think that you know when you have
- 3:32Speaker 2: two teams that are playing at a high level the
- 3:34Speaker 2: more nationalized you can get on the game the better.
- 3:37Speaker 1: There certainly will be a lot of them, and some
- 3:40Speaker 1: of those will be the college football playoff committee who
- 3:43Speaker 1: put out their first rankings of the season last night. Thankfully,
- 3:48Speaker 1: Utah is kind of above the fray a little bit
- 3:50Speaker 1: because they're undefeated. They're number three, BYU down at number nine,
- 3:55Speaker 1: and once again, there's complaints about pro-Alabama bias, SEC biases
- 4:00Speaker 1: one way or the other. Some of the more I guess,
- 4:05Speaker 1: eyebrow-raising rankings we've seen from the college football playoff committee,
- 4:08Speaker 1: although ultimately they don't mean anything because we've got to
- 4:11Speaker 1: wait until the season's actually done. But Utah sitting at three,
- 4:15Speaker 1: what was your reaction to the first college football playoff
- 4:18Speaker 1: ranking of 2026?
- 4:19Speaker 2: If I'm going to be brutally honest, I was kind
- 4:23Speaker 2: of shocked. When I saw UCLA pop up where they did,
- 4:27Speaker 2: and then I saw BYU pop up where they did,
- 4:30Speaker 2: I kind of figured Utah was going to be in
- 4:32Speaker 2: that position. four or five spot. But, you know, it's, it's,
- 4:38Speaker 2: it's discerning. It's deserved. Like the team is, is undefeated.
- 4:41Speaker 2: They've been winning by, you know, large margin majority of the,
- 4:44Speaker 2: of the.
- 4:44Speaker 3: Games this season.
- 4:45Speaker 2: And it's just statistically.
- 4:48Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 4:48Speaker 2: Like the Cincinnati game kind of ruined it a little bit,
- 4:51Speaker 2: you know, but it's, it's, it feels kind of just,
- 4:55Speaker 2: but at the same time, I know that internally this
- 4:57Speaker 2: program is not satisfied.
- 4:58Speaker 3: Like, and also they, to a certain extent.
- 4:59Speaker 2: Don't truly feel, care. They just want to go 1-0
- 5:03Speaker 2: every week. They just want to be playing for stuff
- 5:06Speaker 2: when it really matters in December. It's just a number,
- 5:10Speaker 2: but it is good that this program is getting national
- 5:12Speaker 2: recognition because there's been years where they haven't or the
- 5:15Speaker 2: Big 12 hasn't or even there were times in the
- 5:18Speaker 2: Pac-12 where they didn't get the respect that they deserved.
- 5:21Speaker 2: It was slightly shocking, but also kind of good to
- 5:24Speaker 2: see Utah get the respect that they deserved.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Certainly fun to see Utah the highest ranking since the
- 5:32Speaker 1: sugar bowl finish, right? That was number two, now number three.
- 5:37Speaker 1: And you talk about the team being satisfied, satisfied or
- 5:41Speaker 1: not being satisfied. How did they feel about the performance
- 5:46Speaker 1: in Cincinnati? Because it was really kind of a tale
- 5:48Speaker 1: of two halves. What really matters is you got the win,
- 5:51Speaker 1: a dominant win, even after some issues in the second half,
- 5:55Speaker 1: but it was 42 to six at half. It only
- 5:57Speaker 1: scored seven points the rest of the way. How did
- 6:00Speaker 1: this team internally evaluate what happened in the second half
- 6:03Speaker 1: at Cincinnati?
- 6:05Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a lot of just kind of
- 6:07Speaker 2: not satisfied. Like I asked Devin about it point blank
- 6:10Speaker 2: on Monday, just like what happened in that third quarter.
- 6:12Speaker 2: And he said, you know, I need to be better
- 6:14Speaker 2: as the quarterback of this team because everything runs through
- 6:17Speaker 2: me on this offense. Um, and I, that's the accountability
- 6:21Speaker 2: that you want to see from your quarterback, someone that,
- 6:23Speaker 2: you know, I saw him pop up on a Heisman
- 6:25Speaker 2: watch list the other day. Um, that's what the accountability
- 6:29Speaker 2: you want to see is, is it was good, but
- 6:30Speaker 2: you're never satisfied. And Morgan even acknowledged it earlier in
- 6:33Speaker 2: the week in his press conference. He said, defensively, the
- 6:35Speaker 2: run fits weren't there. Things just kind of got a
- 6:37Speaker 2: little bit sloppy and got away from this team.
- 6:39Speaker 3: And, you know, I, I think they.
- 6:41Speaker 2: Just kind of took the foot off the gas a
- 6:43Speaker 2: little bit and, you know, thankfully they had built up
- 6:45Speaker 2: so big of a lead that at the end of
- 6:47Speaker 2: the day, it didn't really matter, but You know, it's, it's,
- 6:50Speaker 2: it's good that they're acknowledging that something needed to be
- 6:53Speaker 2: fixed because it would be more concerning if they were
- 6:55Speaker 2: just like, eh, doesn't really matter. Like we still won
- 6:58Speaker 2: the game, but they did, they did acknowledge what they
- 7:01Speaker 2: needed to acknowledge, at least in my eyes to kind
- 7:03Speaker 2: of placate and satisfy that things weren't as good as
- 7:07Speaker 2: they could have been last week.
- 7:10Speaker 1: I mean, nothing's ever as good as it could be,
- 7:11Speaker 1: I suppose, but I think it's fair to say that
- 7:14Speaker 1: we've yet to watch, even as an undefeated team, we've
- 7:16Speaker 1: yet to watch a full four quarters of Utah football
- 7:19Speaker 1: where it feels like they're near their best. It seems
- 7:22Speaker 1: like there's a quarter or even a half in each
- 7:25Speaker 1: game that doesn't live up to the standard of the
- 7:28Speaker 1: rest of the game. Against BYU, that might be problematic, right?
- 7:33Speaker 1: Against Houston, it left you heading into halftime with no
- 7:37Speaker 1: points and things like that, so how do they correct
- 7:41Speaker 1: a problem that has been kind of a feature of
- 7:44Speaker 1: this team for eight weeks now?
- 7:47Speaker 3: Well, I think that like, To a certain extent, yeah,
- 7:50Speaker 3: it is slightly concerning that they haven't played.
- 7:52Speaker 2: A full 60 minutes, but it also shows at the
- 7:55Speaker 2: same time that this team is not willing to roll over.
- 7:59Speaker 2: They easily could have rolled over versus Houston. They could
- 8:02Speaker 2: have rolled over versus Colorado. To a certain extent, they
- 8:05Speaker 2: could have rolled over versus Iowa State, but they didn't.
- 8:07Speaker 3: They continued to battle.
- 8:08Speaker 2: They continued to.
- 8:09Speaker 3: Push through it.
- 8:11Speaker 2: Even though there were lulls, that's encouraging for me that
- 8:13Speaker 2: they still fought because there would have been Utah teams
- 8:16Speaker 2: in the past.
- 8:16Speaker 3: Where they would have just rolled over and they just
- 8:18Speaker 3: would have.
- 8:18Speaker 2: Been like, okay, we're done. We're not going to continue
- 8:21Speaker 2: to fight in this game.
- 8:22Speaker 3: But for the way that.
- 8:23Speaker 2: Morgan has coached up this team and the way that
- 8:25Speaker 2: the rest of the assistants have also done that is
- 8:28Speaker 2: they're relentless. It's very much that R in the RSNB culture.
- 8:32Speaker 2: They're not going to give up no matter what. They're
- 8:34Speaker 2: not going to stop playing and stop fighting until there's
- 8:36Speaker 2: triple zeros on that clock. So, yeah, it might be
- 8:40Speaker 2: slightly concerning that they haven't played a full game, but
- 8:42Speaker 2: I'm more impressed by the fact that even when things
- 8:46Speaker 2: got a little rough, they didn't just throw.
- 8:47Speaker 3: In the towel.
- 8:48Speaker 2: They continued to fight, and they continued to push through
- 8:50Speaker 2: whatever was going on.
- 8:52Speaker 1: Let's talk about this actual BYU matchup. This is a
- 8:55Speaker 1: really solid Kalani Satake coached team. They are 7-1 on
- 8:59Speaker 1: the season. They beat Notre Dame at home. They're in
- 9:03Speaker 1: the top ten in the college football playoff rankings for
- 9:05Speaker 1: what I think is very deserved reasons. And they might
- 9:09Speaker 1: have L.J. Martin back when we get down to it
- 9:12Speaker 1: on Saturday. When you look at the matchup, where do
- 9:16Speaker 1: you think the most crucial maybe individual matchups or positional
- 9:19Speaker 1: matchups are? Just your initial thoughts on the actual contest
- 9:23Speaker 1: against a really good Cougars team.
- 9:26Speaker 2: I'm going to take a little bit of a different
- 9:29Speaker 2: approach with this one, but I think it's going to
- 9:31Speaker 2: be Utah's offensive playmakers versus BYU's poor tackling team. BYU,
- 9:38Speaker 2: according to PFF, has missed 111 tackles already this season,
- 9:41Speaker 2: and that includes 23 from Cade Ulave, which is three less,
- 9:45Speaker 2: if my math is correct, than Jono, Trey, Cyrus, and
- 9:49Speaker 2: Elijah Ellis all combined. They've only missed 26 tackles as
- 9:52Speaker 2: a group this season, and Cade's missed 23. So how
- 9:56Speaker 2: is Utah's offense going to be able to exploit this?
- 10:00Speaker 2: poor tackling of BYU? We saw it versus Houston. There
- 10:03Speaker 2: were so many missed tackles forced on this offense. You know,
- 10:07Speaker 2: Wayshon had a couple tackles Devin had few Braden Pagan,
- 10:10Speaker 2: Noah Benny.
- 10:11Speaker 3: How are they going to.
- 10:12Speaker 2: Be able to exploit BYU's poor tackling? Because this has
- 10:15Speaker 2: been something that I have been thinking about and been watching.
- 10:18Speaker 2: And it's been kind of a red flag for me
- 10:20Speaker 2: with BYU since, you know, the first game of the season,
- 10:23Speaker 2: the cracks were already starting to show. So how are
- 10:25Speaker 2: they going to exploit that? I think that's something that's.
- 10:27Speaker 3: Going to be interesting to see.
- 10:29Speaker 2: And then on the, on the, for the Utah defenses, I,
- 10:32Speaker 2: the big thing is how do you limit bear Bachmeier?
- 10:34Speaker 2: Because even if LJ is back, how effective is he
- 10:37Speaker 2: going to be? Like he's been out for the last, what,
- 10:40Speaker 2: four or five weeks. His ankle was, you know, he
- 10:44Speaker 2: has that ankle injury. So how is he going to be,
- 10:46Speaker 2: how effective is it going to be? Because honestly, we
- 10:49Speaker 2: have seen firsthand last year with Devin that when you're coming,
- 10:53Speaker 2: when you're trying to come back from an ankle injury
- 10:55Speaker 2: too quickly, it's not going to end well. And your
- 10:58Speaker 2: play is going to be limited. Your explosiveness is going
- 11:00Speaker 2: to be limited. So I think that's, again, going to
- 11:02Speaker 2: put more pressure on Bear. And how can Utah limit Bear?
- 11:05Speaker 3: I think a lot of things were.
- 11:07Speaker 2: Learned from that matchup last year because, to a certain extent,
- 11:09Speaker 2: Utah couldn't stop him. And whether it was just poor tackling,
- 11:13Speaker 2: bad execution, guys taking the wrong moves, like, it's just.
- 11:18Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting to see how they can
- 11:19Speaker 3: limit him because.
- 11:20Speaker 2: If Utah can turn up the pressure on Bear and
- 11:23Speaker 2: force him to beat them with his arm, I kind
- 11:26Speaker 2: of tend to lean that's more Utah's way. Scooby Davis
- 11:31Speaker 2: had probably the best game of his career last week.
- 11:34Speaker 2: Eli Reed has seemed to turn a corner. James Chennault
- 11:37Speaker 2: has had some really high moments, but he's also had
- 11:39Speaker 2: some low moments. So which Bobo are you going to
- 11:41Speaker 2: get on Saturday? And, you know, Jackson, as much as
- 11:44Speaker 2: people dog on Benny, he is a stellar corner or
- 11:48Speaker 2: a stellar nickel. He can play. he plays well in
- 11:52Speaker 2: these types of situations in these games and you know
- 11:54Speaker 2: that's a hard position to play so.
- 11:56Speaker 3: If i would put my money on the utah secondary versus.
- 11:59Speaker 2: Byu's wide receivers and tight ends but you know we're
- 12:03Speaker 2: just gonna have to see because i think bear is
- 12:05Speaker 2: gonna be asked to carry the ball a lot more
- 12:07Speaker 2: than he would have wanted given if lj was back
- 12:10Speaker 2: or not We've.
- 12:11Speaker 1: Seen bear Bachmeier have to really kind of in three
- 12:14Speaker 1: games already this season, just be like, all right, I'm
- 12:17Speaker 1: going to go win this for my team. And look,
- 12:19Speaker 1: you could make an argument. He did that against Utah
- 12:21Speaker 1: and Provo last year as well. So it's not like
- 12:23Speaker 1: he's not capable of it. When you say you got
- 12:27Speaker 1: to figure out how to limit bear Bachmeier, take it
- 12:30Speaker 1: one step further. What does that look like? What does
- 12:32Speaker 1: it mean? Is it collapsing the pocket instead of trying
- 12:35Speaker 1: to get around your blocks and, and, you know, getting
- 12:38Speaker 1: a sack, just keep them contained. Is it, Like you said,
- 12:41Speaker 1: forcing him to use his arm. He's really solid with
- 12:44Speaker 1: his arm now, but against Arizona State last week, he
- 12:46Speaker 1: was forcing some balls in that I think will be
- 12:48Speaker 1: picked by a Utah defender. They weren't by a Sun
- 12:50Speaker 1: Devil defender. When we're talking about what it actually looks
- 12:53Speaker 1: like to hurt that guy, to limit that guy, easier
- 12:57Speaker 1: said than done, what do you think it actually looks like, Sammy?
- 13:00Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a combination of everything you've said.
- 13:03Speaker 2: Utah's done a really good job over the last few
- 13:05Speaker 2: weeks of mixing up their coverages between zone, man, all-out blitz.
- 13:11Speaker 2: Just everything that Colton Swan is throwing at opposing offenses
- 13:15Speaker 2: has caused havoc. I know that the defensive ends have
- 13:20Speaker 2: not played up to Utah standard, but they're still generating pressure.
- 13:23Speaker 2: I think I saw last week, Utah pressure had like
- 13:26Speaker 2: 71% pressure rate versus Cincinnati. And look at how that
- 13:30Speaker 2: worked out for JC French, who had been kind of wheeling.
- 13:33Speaker 3: And dealing up until that point in the season.
- 13:35Speaker 2: So I don't want to say you spy bear, because
- 13:38Speaker 2: if you spy bear, that's.
- 13:39Speaker 3: Going to leave somebody else open. And then that's going
- 13:41Speaker 3: to cause a ton of headache, but.
- 13:43Speaker 2: Yeah, Guys just need to own their 20 square feet.
- 13:45Speaker 3: They need to contain.
- 13:46Speaker 2: They need to ramp up that pressure because, like you said,
- 13:51Speaker 2: there were passes that weren't picked off by Arizona.
- 13:53Speaker 3: State last week that could have been picked off by Utah.
- 13:55Speaker 2: And so if you can force Bear to have to
- 13:57Speaker 2: be in those passing situations, I think that's kind of
- 14:01Speaker 2: the MO, at least in my opinion and my view,
- 14:04Speaker 2: is how.
- 14:04Speaker 3: You can win this one.
- 14:07Speaker 1: Sammy Moore is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell Show.
- 14:09Speaker 1: It's a Ute Zone Wednesday, and, of course, we're talking
- 14:12Speaker 1: Holy War, the biggest game of the year, the biggest
- 14:14Speaker 1: Holy War game potentially ever in the history of this
- 14:17Speaker 1: great rivalry, as never before have two top ten teams
- 14:21Speaker 1: squared off against one another. I know we already talked
- 14:24Speaker 1: about it a lot, but a 10 a.m. kickoff, how
- 14:28Speaker 1: does it affect Utah?
- 14:30Speaker 2: I don't really know how much it changes things. Obviously,
- 14:33Speaker 2: guys are going to have to get up a little
- 14:34Speaker 2: bit earlier. Jackson Benny said they're trying to do a
- 14:37Speaker 2: little bit more stuff earlier in the day this week
- 14:39Speaker 2: to kind of get body clocks on that wavelength and stuff.
- 14:42Speaker 2: But Utah played a 10 a.m. kick versus Texas Tech
- 14:46Speaker 2: last year. And while the result wasn't what fans wanted,
- 14:51Speaker 2: for the most part, Utah was with Texas Tech for.
- 14:55Speaker 2: Three out of the four quarters, in my opinion. You know,
- 14:57Speaker 2: that fourth quarter is when things really kind of went
- 15:00Speaker 2: a little bit south, in my opinion. you know, Utah
- 15:03Speaker 2: is going to get up for this game. Fans are
- 15:05Speaker 2: going to get up for this game. I don't, I
- 15:07Speaker 2: think to a certain extent, too much is being put
- 15:09Speaker 2: on the kickoff time. It's just, it's, it's different.
- 15:12Speaker 3: It's weird.
- 15:13Speaker 2: It's something that not all, not all of us are
- 15:15Speaker 2: used to. Like I'm used to not getting up at
- 15:18Speaker 2: six or five in the morning to get up to
- 15:20Speaker 2: a game. I'm usually leaving my house around five or
- 15:22Speaker 2: six in the evening to get up to a game
- 15:23Speaker 2: because of how many late kickoffs Utah has. But you know,
- 15:27Speaker 2: this 10 AM slot, actually it's, it's good. You're going
- 15:31Speaker 2: to get a lot more national eyes on this game.
- 15:33Speaker 2: You know, people are going to become aware of this game.
- 15:36Speaker 2: There's going to be like playoff voters, whatever Heisman voters,
- 15:40Speaker 2: people that haven't watched a lot of football going to
- 15:42Speaker 2: get to see what this team is truly about. So
- 15:46Speaker 2: I don't really know how much you, you put into
- 15:48Speaker 2: this 10 a.m. kick, but you know, I think Kalani
- 15:51Speaker 2: and Morgan will have both teams ready to go for
- 15:53Speaker 2: a kickoff.
- 15:56Speaker 1: We had a Hunter Andrews breakout game. at long last,
- 16:02Speaker 1: against Cincinnati. You go back a few weeks, and Noah
- 16:04Speaker 1: Benny had his, and Ricky Johnson had his, and Pagans
- 16:07Speaker 1: had probably a couple. Is there still somebody left in
- 16:11Speaker 1: the lineup that you anticipate seeing a breakout game from,
- 16:14Speaker 1: and could it be against BYU?
- 16:17Speaker 2: I mean, it feels like every week we see someone
- 16:19Speaker 2: completely different. Like, funny enough, I was talking over on
- 16:23Speaker 2: our youth zone boards about how I felt the Hunter
- 16:25Speaker 2: Andrews breakout game was coming, and then it happened last week, so...
- 16:29Speaker 2: It's just one of those things where you don't really
- 16:31Speaker 2: know who it's going to be. I would say last
- 16:34Speaker 2: week was also a breakout game for Daniel Bray. He
- 16:36Speaker 2: had two touchdowns, and he was an influential part of
- 16:39Speaker 2: that win. But I don't really know. I feel like
- 16:43Speaker 2: for the most part, we kind of have an idea.
- 16:46Speaker 2: My gut would say if there's one person we haven't
- 16:49Speaker 2: seen a breakout.
- 16:49Speaker 3: Game from yet, it would be Creed.
- 16:51Speaker 2: Creed has just been very consistent this season. He is
- 16:54Speaker 2: the guy that Devin likes to go to when they're
- 16:56Speaker 2: in that zone coverage because it's creed just knows where
- 16:59Speaker 2: to sit down and where to just.
- 17:01Speaker 3: Put himself in a good position to make a catch
- 17:03Speaker 3: so if there's one guy that.
- 17:04Speaker 2: We haven't seen a breakout from i would say it's
- 17:06Speaker 2: creed i don't know if it's going to happen this
- 17:08Speaker 2: week byu likes to play that man coverage kind of
- 17:11Speaker 2: like utah but you know creed has the ability to
- 17:14Speaker 2: just turn on the jets and burn some.
- 17:15Speaker 3: Guys especially nickels and you know if evan.
- 17:18Speaker 2: Johnson doesn't play for byu that's going to add some
- 17:21Speaker 2: issues for their secondary because how are you going to
- 17:24Speaker 2: be able to cover someone like Braden Pagan, Creed, Larry, Kyrie, Ricky,
- 17:31Speaker 2: any of those wide receivers that are playing at a
- 17:33Speaker 2: high level this season. Long answer for the short answer,
- 17:37Speaker 2: which would probably be Creed, is probably the next one
- 17:39Speaker 2: that's due for a breakout.
- 17:42Speaker 1: Zerway Williams started to get talked about a few weeks back,
- 17:46Speaker 1: and it's really ramping up now. He's part of an
- 17:49Speaker 1: overall offensive line that has been incredibly impressive this year,
- 17:52Speaker 1: especially given the context of what departed I mean, a
- 17:56Speaker 1: new coach who's never coached in college football before, although
- 17:59Speaker 1: we know what Jordan Gross' credentials actually look like. But,
- 18:03Speaker 1: I mean, you were on this train early with Zaraway.
- 18:06Speaker 1: This is a guy that, you know, he's been in
- 18:07Speaker 1: the program for a long time, so we know him well.
- 18:11Speaker 1: It's like one of the feel-good stories for me right now,
- 18:14Speaker 1: not only in the Utah sphere, but in all of
- 18:16Speaker 1: college football, a guy who stuck around and paid his dues,
- 18:20Speaker 1: and it looks like it's going to pay off for him, Sammy.
- 18:23Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Zaraway is just a key– he is
- 18:27Speaker 2: utah's culture.
- 18:29Speaker 3: In like like when you look at him.
- 18:32Speaker 2: You know he came in not very highly rated he
- 18:35Speaker 2: kind of he sat he got injured a few years
- 18:38Speaker 2: he learned he developed he was under you know caleb
- 18:41Speaker 2: and spencer for such a long time and he bided
- 18:44Speaker 2: his time and he got to where he needed to
- 18:46Speaker 2: be like there would have been a lot of kids
- 18:47Speaker 2: who would have just thrown in the towel and transferred
- 18:49Speaker 2: but z like like you said he just kind of
- 18:51Speaker 2: he buckled down he stayed he was he's a feel-good
- 18:54Speaker 2: story and you know we we've been high on z
- 18:57Speaker 2: for a long time over on the zone boards and
- 18:59Speaker 2: so for to see him play at this level has
- 19:01Speaker 2: just been so fun to watch and like off the
- 19:05Speaker 2: field he's such a great guy he is he is
- 19:07Speaker 2: one of the best media scrums you will get every
- 19:10Speaker 2: single year um just how excited he is and how
- 19:13Speaker 2: he always is there to hype up his teammates and
- 19:15Speaker 2: just be there for everybody and you know, it's, it's
- 19:18Speaker 2: great to see these types of stories, especially when, you know,
- 19:21Speaker 2: the transfer portal is what it is. College football is
- 19:23Speaker 2: changing by the day.
- 19:25Speaker 3: But, you know, nothing but love and.
- 19:27Speaker 2: Respect for what he's done. And if, if he can
- 19:29Speaker 2: be a first round draft pick, even an early second
- 19:32Speaker 2: round draft pick, you know, hats off and tip of
- 19:35Speaker 2: the cap to Jordan gross, because he came in with
- 19:38Speaker 2: big shoes to fill. And if he can get someone
- 19:39Speaker 2: drafted early and, in the draft in his first year,
- 19:43Speaker 2: you know, the sky's the limit for him as a
- 19:45Speaker 2: coach and and the future and the outlook of this
- 19:47Speaker 2: utah offensive line from here on out.
- 19:50Speaker 1: How significant is this game going to be as a
- 19:53Speaker 1: recruiting weekend i'm seeing this list of players you know
- 19:56Speaker 1: 50 guys long and everyone coming in from out of
- 19:59Speaker 1: town and the highest rated recruits and all the land
- 20:04Speaker 1: feels like it's going to be a big one from
- 20:05Speaker 1: a recruiting standpoint Yeah, we're.
- 20:08Speaker 2: Hearing about 50 to 55 recruits are going to be
- 20:11Speaker 2: in campus this weekend. A lot of them are local
- 20:14Speaker 2: kids because Morgan has made a very clear focus that
- 20:17Speaker 2: he wants to get keep local talent here in Utah. And,
- 20:21Speaker 2: you know, we thought this class with the 27 class
- 20:24Speaker 2: he built like it's majority local kids. Texas is well represented.
- 20:29Speaker 2: Arizona is well represented as well, but he wants to
- 20:32Speaker 2: keep the local talent home. He believes that the best
- 20:35Speaker 2: football is being played here in the state. And so
- 20:38Speaker 2: you want to keep those guys home. You want these
- 20:40Speaker 2: kids that have dreamed of being youth their entire lives
- 20:44Speaker 2: be youth. And so it's.
- 20:45Speaker 3: Going to be massive.
- 20:46Speaker 2: You know, it's, Me and Dan Sorensen, our publisher, we
- 20:50Speaker 2: talked about it yesterday. We don't think we've ever seen
- 20:53Speaker 2: a weekend that has been this loaded with recruits. And
- 20:57Speaker 2: Dan's been doing this for 20 years. And so it's massive.
- 21:00Speaker 2: And a lot of them are 28 kids. There's a
- 21:03Speaker 2: handful of.
- 21:03Speaker 3: 29 kids that are going to be there.
- 21:06Speaker 2: You're setting the foundation now for what could be a
- 21:11Speaker 2: stellar class in 28 and even in 29. How does
- 21:15Speaker 2: the game go?
- 21:16Speaker 1: What's your prediction?
- 21:18Speaker 2: Oh, God, Sean, why would you ask me this? This
- 21:20Speaker 2: game is so unpredictable because I feel like every year
- 21:27Speaker 2: it feels like something funky happens in this game. I
- 21:31Speaker 2: just have a feeling that this year that Utah is
- 21:36Speaker 2: able to do it. I just think there's something different
- 21:39Speaker 2: about this team than there was in years past. Um,
- 21:44Speaker 2: I don't know if it's coaching with Morgan. I don't
- 21:46Speaker 2: know if it's play calling with McGiven or play calling
- 21:49Speaker 2: the Colton Swan. I just have a feeling that this
- 21:52Speaker 2: is the year that Utah can snap that BYU streak
- 21:54Speaker 2: and get back into.
- 21:55Speaker 3: The wind column in this game.
- 21:56Speaker 2: And, you know, I don't want to give a score
- 21:58Speaker 2: prediction because honestly, I don't know, like I could see
- 22:01Speaker 2: the game being a, I could see it being a
- 22:02Speaker 2: 14 point win for Utah, but I could also see
- 22:05Speaker 2: it being, you know, a three-point win for Utah like
- 22:08Speaker 2: that's just how this game goes there is no rhyme
- 22:11Speaker 2: or reason how things happen but I just there's just
- 22:15Speaker 2: like this this this feeling and this from studying film
- 22:18Speaker 2: and looking at the statistics I just think that Utah
- 22:21Speaker 2: has the edge this year and can come away with the.
- 22:23Speaker 1: Win nobody here is going to dispute that line of
- 22:28Speaker 1: thinking or that prediction Sammy appreciate you giving us some
- 22:30Speaker 1: time as always and we'll see you up there on.
- 22:33Speaker 3: Saturday Hey, we'll see you on Saturday bright and early, Sean.
- 22:36Speaker 1: That's right. Rubbing the sleep out of the eyes. Sammy
- 22:39Speaker 1: Mora will be there. I will be there. You should
- 22:41Speaker 1: be there for kickoff as well when Utah takes on
- 22:44Speaker 1: BYU at Rice-Seco Stadium at 10 a.m. on ABC. Our
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- 22:54Speaker 1: as always.