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Not Your Average Girl Feat Hope Giselle (Part One) · So Shameless

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  Speaker 1: If you know what I'm saying, so so shameless, if
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm sitting, so shameless, if you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, so shamous, so shameless, so so so sumous,
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  Speaker 1: if you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, so shameless, if you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: So And the guy who had it before her, he
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  Speaker 2: was this little weasel of a gay man, like this
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  Speaker 2: little black gay man who came in there on something
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  Speaker 2: like black power ship until he got the job, and
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  Speaker 2: then it was very like, well, you know, he's kids
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  Speaker 2: from me, the fix, and it was never the demographics
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  Speaker 2: that we lived in, you know. And I feel like
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  Speaker 2: she on the same type of time like she she's
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  Speaker 2: a lesbian woman, but she just had her first baby,
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  Speaker 2: so she on that type of time, like she was
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  Speaker 2: on her little press tour and all of the things
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  Speaker 2: and did all of this ship, and she don't want
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  Speaker 2: to give up.
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  Speaker 3: That money because of whatever the reasons is.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I think that when I think about hearing somebody say, like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, let's not count people's pockets, what I will
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  Speaker 2: say is my bills ain't your bills. So if you
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  Speaker 2: came into that job and you accepted that job on
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  Speaker 2: seven hundred k because you knew that you would get
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  Speaker 2: ready to have this baby, whatever whatever, so.
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  Speaker 3: You made plans heard.
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  Speaker 2: And also, but I just feel like I have to
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  Speaker 2: realize that I'm not I ain't no fake ass punk
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  Speaker 2: ass activists, Like I don't just get on this and
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  Speaker 2: do this shit for Instagram like I'm really out here.
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  Speaker 4: Oh oh think she was recording the whole time.
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  Speaker 5: I mean about I'm positive to continue to You didn't
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  Speaker 5: say what organization I just need.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care because that's how people.
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  Speaker 2: My thing is, when you don't say the name, people
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  Speaker 2: feel comfortable perpetuating the behavior, which is why I don't
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  Speaker 2: mind saying the things because at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: I'm still be booked. I'm still like I've sat at
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  Speaker 2: a space where I was invited to and talk shit
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  Speaker 2: about the people that invited me because they still did
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  Speaker 2: not show up for.
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  Speaker 3: The community but they said that they would.
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  Speaker 2: Because what happens is when you hold that shit and
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  Speaker 2: we put it in the group chat and we all
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  Speaker 2: talking about it and be like, yeah, that.
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  Speaker 3: Organization is fucked up. Guess what they get to still
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  Speaker 3: be fucked up because we're not saying nothing.
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  Speaker 2: But if I'm sitting at your shit talking about how
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  Speaker 2: you still didn't show up for me at your shit,
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  Speaker 2: while I have the audience of people who are also
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  Speaker 2: at this ship that don't know nothing about this. Now
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  Speaker 2: people got questions. So now it's not just me. People
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  Speaker 2: are like, well, is what she said true? Because y'all
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  Speaker 2: let her say it. Nobody pulled her off, nobody said
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  Speaker 2: that it was a lie. So it is what she
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  Speaker 2: said true. And that's how change happens. Niggas be scared.
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  Speaker 3: No only works for me in my favor.
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  Speaker 2: Now, mind you, I don't know what conversations happened in
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  Speaker 2: rooms and what opportunities I might have missed that never.
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  Speaker 3: Came to me.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, hard, what's your level today? What level
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  Speaker 6: you at too?
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  Speaker 3: I'm up there?
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  Speaker 6: What happened? How did you get there? We just started
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  Speaker 6: seventy degree?
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  Speaker 7: Is it? He?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not that like we were were trying to
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  Speaker 2: do some shit with one of the venues for DC
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  Speaker 2: because I'm trying to expand it to be able to
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  Speaker 2: fit more people because DC is sold out.
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  Speaker 8: But I want to get you up there, but I
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  Speaker 8: need a little four play first. You can't walk in.
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  Speaker 6: All the way up all right, and I walk in
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  Speaker 6: like it's a lot.
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  Speaker 3: You're good, I'm good, I'm good.
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  Speaker 6: We was Uh.
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  Speaker 8: There was two conversations, yeah, happening before the show. First
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  Speaker 8: one you said, somebody makes seven hundred thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah right. Somebody in the chest said they don't believe
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  Speaker 6: in counting pockets.
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  Speaker 2: Right do you when you are a public startment of
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  Speaker 2: a nonprofit organization?
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely well, do you believe in count pockets? Nah? Why not?
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  Speaker 9: Because what's what's for them? It's for them, what's for
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  Speaker 9: me and for me If I agree to a deal,
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  Speaker 9: if I don't like to deal, I'm out of it.
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  Speaker 9: What you made don't matter to me.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not a big fan of pocket watching, but kind of,
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  Speaker 7: like with Hope said, if it's relevant to the conversation,
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  Speaker 7: or if you're falling short or what you're supposed to
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  Speaker 7: be doing and that money could be reallocated, then you
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  Speaker 7: kind of got to look at the entire situation because
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  Speaker 7: there's some money there that could be going somewhere else,
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  Speaker 7: and this person is falling short. So in that case,
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  Speaker 7: somebody has to pay attention to where this money's going.
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  Speaker 8: You know what I mean, I believe you count pockets,
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  Speaker 8: especially when it does not align with what you're saying
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  Speaker 8: or what you're supposed to be mouse That's what I mean.
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  Speaker 6: Oh okay, he's the reverend with the Rose Royce. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I'm saying it.
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  Speaker 8: The niggas are Oh Jay Z billionaire babe, Bro, you're
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  Speaker 8: giving out sandwiches. If that that's the case, then you
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  Speaker 8: should be doing more for the community. I don't believe
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  Speaker 8: in this social media activists. I don't Unless you really
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  Speaker 8: standing on it and your behavior matches, then I don't
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  Speaker 8: believe it. So if you're walking in here supreme up,
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  Speaker 8: but you're talking about the next man, bro, your behavior
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  Speaker 8: needs to change then because it don't start at a
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  Speaker 8: billion and now I do believe what Jay said.
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  Speaker 6: That means at one.
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  Speaker 8: Hundred thousand, you could still be toxic to community. You
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  Speaker 8: can still be that way, right, So your behavior needs
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  Speaker 8: to start from now, not when you get all that bread.
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  Speaker 6: Because if that's the case.
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  Speaker 8: I could be a billionaire, but I could be given
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  Speaker 8: five hundred to communities and building schools in Africa, or
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  Speaker 8: that I could be doing these things that it makes sense.
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  Speaker 8: You know what I mean for me to have that
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  Speaker 8: type of brain because look at all the shit that
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  Speaker 8: I'm doing, I'm giving it away. I'm trying to make
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  Speaker 8: the world better. Of a philanthropist, when do you become
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  Speaker 8: a philanthropist? How much money? After the fact? Right, you
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  Speaker 8: make all this money, Now you become a philanthropist? Right
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  Speaker 8: how you know it was either doing it the whole time,
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  Speaker 8: don't so.
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  Speaker 7: It should be like you wanted to.
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  Speaker 2: It's never It's never about what you couldn't. It's about
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  Speaker 2: the desire to do it. I'm not a millionaire and
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  Speaker 2: I'm giving away money at every stop of this tour.
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  Speaker 2: This is my tour, and I'm making it about the
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  Speaker 2: community because I want to. It's not and like Tyl
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  Speaker 2: just said, it doesn't start at a billion. I'm I'm
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  Speaker 2: on my way to make it. I make a cute
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  Speaker 2: little chunk of change. But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: was what I have. I'm gonna give back, but like
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna give back, but it's right. What I'm giving
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  Speaker 2: back now is chump change compared to what I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to give back when I'm in a position to give more.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that some people is embedded in you
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  Speaker 2: and other people want to perform as if it is,
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  Speaker 2: while pocketing most of that money and giving the barest
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  Speaker 2: of minimums that they have for the for the perception.
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  Speaker 9: Hey, listen, some people need to They was giving out
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  Speaker 9: sandwiches on the train.
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  Speaker 6: That's crazy. Shout out to the mouse. We had a
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  Speaker 6: great episode last week. I miss I missed him.
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  Speaker 8: The motherfucker's online talking about jay Z and his billionaires. Listen,
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  Speaker 8: if we don't know what that man is doing with
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  Speaker 8: his bread. Obviously people disagree with all of the different things, fine,
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  Speaker 8: but whatever.
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  Speaker 6: The other conversation.
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  Speaker 4: Real that's me.
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  Speaker 6: Told Trump, it looks like you're losing weight. I said, Bro,
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  Speaker 6: you can't say that. What did you say?
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  Speaker 9: Let's say what I want. Why can't I tell somebody
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  Speaker 9: that they losing weight?
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  Speaker 8: I don't think that you shouldupposed to be mentioning people's weight.
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  Speaker 8: I don't think you literally don't. You don't say that
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  Speaker 8: you don't know what they're going through. What a nigga
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  Speaker 8: got cancered?
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  Speaker 4: I would have known that out.
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  Speaker 7: Sorot the type of dude to ask the lady if
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  Speaker 7: she's pregnant just because she showed a little bility I
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  Speaker 7: wouldn't do that.
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  Speaker 6: It's the same idea.
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  Speaker 4: I keep that one in myself. I wouldn't say that though,
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  Speaker 4: like you.
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  Speaker 9: Don't much stuff you say to me when we you
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  Speaker 9: know how much stuff you say to me. I'm bunked out,
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  Speaker 9: I'm bugged out. But you don't know him like that.
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  Speaker 6: You my family. I don't care if I offend you.
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  Speaker 9: That's crazy. Like that, I finished. He understood exactly what
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  Speaker 9: I said. He had on bag, yet he usually not.
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  Speaker 9: He don't win fit the clothes.
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  Speaker 8: He is not coming, he don't speaking, he is conversation
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  Speaker 8: what he's not.
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  Speaker 7: It didn't offend me coming from you, But I have
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  Speaker 7: been offended by similar comments in the past when I've
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  Speaker 7: been insecured by my weight.
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  Speaker 6: Because energy came from a buddy you was in place.
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  Speaker 8: It is offensive to him. He's buttering you up because
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  Speaker 8: he's not coming. He's not gonna be like, yeah, that
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  Speaker 8: was fucking offensive. He knows you.
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  Speaker 9: You Oh, by the way, right, you said yo, you
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  Speaker 9: can't say that after I said it.
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  Speaker 4: It would have been clear we weren't even thinking about
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  Speaker 4: it right now.
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  Speaker 8: If you ain't bring it up, is it okay to
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  Speaker 8: mention weight to somebody you.
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  Speaker 6: Wouldn't even say that if that was a g you
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  Speaker 6: ain't say, yo, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: But I think I think also too, because it happens
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  Speaker 2: with women, and it's worse with women because you go
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  Speaker 2: home after you ain't been home, like you go home.
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  Speaker 3: From college, and your grandma like, ooh girl, like da.
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  Speaker 2: I think like with men, the assumption is that a
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  Speaker 2: man is not going to care, because it's less of
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  Speaker 2: a social stigma for men. But I still think that
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  Speaker 2: it's a fuck up like thing to point out one
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  Speaker 2: way or the other, especially if you don't like because
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  Speaker 2: you don't know, like that man could be on chemo
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 8: We like none of you noticed from Chadwick. Yeah, when
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  Speaker 8: people was literally saying, oh he looks sick. Oh he
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  Speaker 8: lose he lost too much weight. Oh maybe he's for
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  Speaker 8: a role.
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  Speaker 4: That's different.
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  Speaker 6: And next thing you know, he was going, you look sick.
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  Speaker 4: It's different from like losing weight.
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  Speaker 8: But people, but people wasn't that. People were not giving
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  Speaker 8: him that you know what I mean, that grace like
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  Speaker 8: you know, maybe something going on. They just like, now
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  Speaker 8: he lost too much weight, he looked crazy, and next
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  Speaker 8: thing you know, he was going.
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  Speaker 4: That's still different because.
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  Speaker 6: Now he lost too much weight.
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  Speaker 4: He looked crazy compared.
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  Speaker 6: To oh you're losing a little weight, bro.
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  Speaker 9: He could be sick, yo, please, It could be said
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  Speaker 9: please yo, yes, yes, crazy that I'm sick.
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  Speaker 2: You might not know that speed, but that like all
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  Speaker 2: jokes aside. So, I have a tumor, and there was
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  Speaker 2: a point where the tumor was really really bad over
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  Speaker 2: the last two years.
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  Speaker 3: And I was going to chemo and all radiation.
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  Speaker 2: You look at you, and I had lost a lot
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  Speaker 2: of weight, and it was people online like, oh, like
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  Speaker 2: stop the Olympic and X, Y and Z and the
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  Speaker 2: whole time, like I'm in chemo two times a week,
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  Speaker 2: you know. You know, So I think like you just
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  Speaker 2: got to be mindful about like when you men.
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  Speaker 6: He doesn't because he do what he wants.
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  Speaker 10: That's nasty. It's nasty.
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  Speaker 4: I like that. I'm happy to be here, that's right.
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  Speaker 8: It's been a couple of weeks since we'll, I've been
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  Speaker 8: back in the building. Yeah, it was good to have
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  Speaker 8: you back. Hope hasn't been here in what two years?
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  Speaker 6: Two years? Was doge your last time?
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  Speaker 2: You do have never been here every time I've done
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  Speaker 2: so shameless never been.
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  Speaker 3: Here except the virtual except for the live show and
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  Speaker 3: the virtual.
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  Speaker 8: But there's no beef. She we knew Dodge couldn't for weeks.
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  Speaker 8: It just happens that.
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  Speaker 2: Way, right because I realized how that sound. They know,
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  Speaker 2: like everything is good, it's just it never works out.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know she's gonna be like, right is that girl?
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  Speaker 8: Please shout out to Dodge wherever she is. Okay, beefs, beefs, beefs.
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  Speaker 8: The Internet got a beef. Welcome back to so Shameless?
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  Speaker 4: What chill? Yes, all right?
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  Speaker 6: The Internet is mad at Drew Ski again?
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  Speaker 10: Really did you see it dropped? He dropped another was
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  Speaker 10: like and I loved he dropped another classic, very muscle
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  Speaker 10: classic for sure. He dropped nothing but classic.
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  Speaker 4: He tries another another skit.
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  Speaker 8: Dressed as a white woman conservative who rock the Twitter
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  Speaker 8: AI identified as Erica Kirk.
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  Speaker 4: I wish I knew what that was, Charlie. I'm about
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  Speaker 4: the loop a little bit bad.
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  Speaker 6: You know who Charlie Cook is?
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  Speaker 4: Maybe if I see his face?
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  Speaker 3: Ya disconnected from from life right now?
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  Speaker 6: He said he do what he wants.
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  Speaker 4: Lie, he said he watched what he wants. Yeah, putting
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  Speaker 4: me on please.
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  Speaker 2: I hope Erica Kirk is Charlie Kirk's widow, but she's
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  Speaker 2: also a sinister evil like tipping all looking as bitch.
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  Speaker 6: All right, hold on, hold on Trump, Trump, you describe her?
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  Speaker 7: Did I like, so that's Erica Kirk. But to know
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  Speaker 7: Erica Kirk, you got it. She's relevant because of who Charlie.
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  Speaker 3: Charlie is who.
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  Speaker 7: Got killed, he got shot or something, and he's basically Republican.
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  Speaker 7: He went on tour with MAGA all types of mega
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  Speaker 7: campaign things, and he was known for like debating people
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  Speaker 7: on college campuses, students, children, and known for his racist
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  Speaker 7: mega thoughts and views. And he was praised by mega
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  Speaker 7: by Donald Trump, and they like when he was killed,
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  Speaker 7: he was they like stopped the what they do. They
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  Speaker 7: raised the flag staff, things like that.
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  Speaker 2: His face is on the Department of Education building now
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  Speaker 2: as a as a litany, and mind you, he's also
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  Speaker 2: the man if.
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  Speaker 6: He don't like I don't know something, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: He was the guy that famously said, like, if I
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  Speaker 2: get on a plane in my posot is black, I'm
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: going to second guess the flight.
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  Speaker 6: Damn.
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  Speaker 9: That's not to do with that. He was like holding
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  Speaker 9: the person. They made like the skits from him.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think I know, I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: that one was Like, Bro, did.
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  Speaker 6: You see the dude that got shot the neck and
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  Speaker 6: blessed gushing at his neck? That like six seven months ago,
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  Speaker 6: eight months ago.
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  Speaker 7: I will say, Well, before he before he died, I
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  Speaker 7: didn't know him by name, I knew who he was.
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  Speaker 9: Okay, okay, but I know, I know, I know who
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  Speaker 9: you're talking about now. I was never too familiar with
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  Speaker 9: that person until until.
• 14:35
  Speaker 7: They once he got killed. Now it's like it's.
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  Speaker 4: Everything for sure, got it.
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  Speaker 8: His wife has now been on stages all across America.
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  Speaker 8: I don't say his platform is like gotten larger after
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  Speaker 8: he passed, and they yeah, right, is huge, it's huge.
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  Speaker 3: They're putting it in schools. What yes, turning for us.
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  Speaker 2: They will become a nationally recognized school organization. It has
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  Speaker 2: been authorized, so the same way that kids have science
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  Speaker 2: club to teach kids the betterment of American history in
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  Speaker 2: American ways.
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  Speaker 3: So they go to your.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, they're white washing it for real white washing.
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  Speaker 8: So they took the black people out and they threw
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  Speaker 8: mad white shit in there.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely what they're doing. That's that.
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  Speaker 10: That was the whole thing about like in the education
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  Speaker 10: system where they was where kids can't read certain books
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  Speaker 10: and they can't have certain materials in the classroom. That's
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  Speaker 10: what that all was about, was taking you know, that
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  Speaker 10: information out so that they can put the information that
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  Speaker 10: they wont in like they like in certain classrooms in
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  Speaker 10: my school, this this this woman, they had like a
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  Speaker 10: slavery lesson or whatever, and a parent came in and
• 15:46
  Speaker 10: was like, Yo, I do not want my kid learning
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  Speaker 10: about slavery from y'all. If they're gonna learn about slavery,
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  Speaker 10: it's going to be from me. So the way that
• 15:53
  Speaker 10: just information is being received today is in a crazy place,
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  Speaker 10: and we're talking about stuff like slavery like shit, that's
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  Speaker 10: just you know, just the fact. So that's where we're
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  Speaker 10: at today in real life.
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  Speaker 3: You know, textbooks are going to be different, like every
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  Speaker 3: everything is going.
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  Speaker 4: To be to erase a low history, right, It's.
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  Speaker 2: They've already done. You know, they got rid of ap
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  Speaker 2: African American studies. They're getting rid of the way that
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  Speaker 2: we talk about slavery. They're trying to actually remove the
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  Speaker 2: slavery portion periods so that the kids don't have to
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  Speaker 2: talk about it because they believe that dismantling it will
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  Speaker 2: somehow because what they call it white guilt. So the
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  Speaker 2: white people who get it and feel bad about it,
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: they want to dismantle those white people. So if we
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: stop teaching it, you don't have to feel bad about
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: it because you don't.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Know what that happened.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we do get this. I need to be I
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: need to get better at that.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to.
• 16:49
  Speaker 8: Speaking of slavery the United Nations? Yes, did it an
• 16:58
  Speaker 8: investigation or then came up to a vote about the
• 17:02
  Speaker 8: trans Atlantic slave trade?
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: Do you know what that is?
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: No joking? Why would you ask that though? Why would you?
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: Why would you ask?
• 17:14
  Speaker 9: If you know, you could have told, you could have
• 17:17
  Speaker 9: told the story, you.
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: Didn't have to ask you. Maybe maybe maybe you're expecting more.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm so sorry.
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: No no, no, no, no.
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: Maybe maybe maybe you're expecting more from this because I.
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: Believe you know what it is, because you can't swear.
• 17:32
  Speaker 8: He does nothing but read, trust me, hope Trump, he
• 17:36
  Speaker 8: does nothing but read, So he he knows the trans
• 17:41
  Speaker 8: Atlantic slave trade.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: I don't know what that is. Bro like this film.
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: I mean, maybe he hasn't heard it referred in that way.
• 17:52
  Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, slavery, Yeah, I like that song.
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: Trans Atlantic was Basically, the it's the transporting of the
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: Europeans that went to Africa and took enslaved Africans across
• 18:06
  Speaker 7: the Atlantic Ocean, and that created the diaspora into the
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: Caribbean and into the United States, and that all came
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: across the Atlantic Ocean. So that's what it's called the
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: trans Atlantic slave Try got it, which is different. So
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: because a lot it's an important term because a lot
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: of people be like, oh, well, slavery has been around
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: for thousands of years in Egypt, but never has have
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: you taken people from one space across an entire ocean
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: into another space. So it created it made it very difference.
• 18:38
  Speaker 8: Okay, the United Nations has voted one hundred and twenty
• 18:43
  Speaker 8: three to three in favor to condemn the enslavement of
• 18:48
  Speaker 8: millions of Africans and the Transatlantic slave trade.
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: The three countries that voted.
• 18:54
  Speaker 8: Against the condemnation of the Transatlantic slave trade the United States, Israel.
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: Crazy.
• 19:03
  Speaker 8: Wow, in Argentina, that makes sense.
• 19:09
  Speaker 10: You know, Argentina is really really racist, like their history
• 19:13
  Speaker 10: in their country, it's like built into their history.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: M hm Argentina.
• 19:19
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yes, I know, that's a that's a crazy place.
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: Russia vote for this ship Russian. I'm gone.
• 19:29
  Speaker 8: I really want to see because I have the breakdown
• 19:31
  Speaker 8: the resolution tabled by Ghana.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Which is that's a laughable considering that last week they
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: literally strengthened their laws against queer people to give the
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: death penalty.
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: Ghana and Ghana.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: That's why I'll never go all of that, Oh go home, bullshit.
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: Well, I knew that they was very against strict.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: And they ain't even strict no more. It's fun, y'all niggas,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: then we will kill you. Let us find y'all. Yes,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: then it is that serious for them. So to turn
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: around the week after and do this is laughable to me.
• 20:02
  Speaker 8: The resolution saw a stiff opposition from both Europe and
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: North America. Here's a detailed vote right down in some
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: countries cannot vote because.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Blah blah blah.
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: Let me see. Is Russia on here?
• 20:14
  Speaker 8: Russia voted voted for to condemn the Transatlantic slave story.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: Why are you surprised? Like Russia is not known for
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: their racism.
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: They are.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: I think that was a stereotype.
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: I think they are here.
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: I mean, well, Caucasian people in general. Once they get
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: to America, they take advantage of all the white privilege,
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: So you know, damn son carcassidy is going to happen.
• 20:44
  Speaker 8: A lot of them did what is it called. A
• 20:52
  Speaker 8: lot of them just said I'm not going to vote. Basically,
• 20:57
  Speaker 8: they abstained. That's the word. Some of the countries that
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: are staying Armenia, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bosnia, Bulgaria, Cambodia, I mean, Croatia, Sestia.
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: Is that a word? Denmark? White people?
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: What?
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: Now?
• 21:16
  Speaker 10: They're also countries who can't really afford to make certain
• 21:19
  Speaker 10: you know, they got to kind of just France play
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: play about the book.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: That's interesting.
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: Germany, now France is interesting, Hungary, Italy, Japan.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Other well, Japan has their own thing right now with US.
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: Switzerland said, leave me out of it. Try to give
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: me at least me out of it.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: They are going to be allegation Ukraine and.
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: The United Kingdoms. But yo, yeah, man, what do y'all
• 21:52
  Speaker 8: think about this? The United States saying, now, don't we
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: don't believe that it was We're not condemning that.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: That's how it was built.
• 21:59
  Speaker 10: Of course they're going because it also to if they
• 22:01
  Speaker 10: condemn it, how how can you condemn it? And then
• 22:03
  Speaker 10: go into the schools and say that it never happened exactly,
• 22:07
  Speaker 10: see what I'm saying, So just from just the whole
• 22:09
  Speaker 10: structure of it just wouldn't make sense. So they have
• 22:11
  Speaker 10: to kind of go with the whole thing. So we
• 22:13
  Speaker 10: can't condemn it. We're going to change the history, you
• 22:16
  Speaker 10: know what I'm saying, So.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: It never happens. So how can we condemn something that
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: never happened?
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: What you're talking about?
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: Yea? The United States is probably the most institutionalized racist
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: country in existence, and has the most blood on their
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: hands when it comes to the Transatlantic slave trade, and
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: has benefited the most from it. So of course they're
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: going to be like, nah, let's not pass this through
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: United Kingdom as well and France, Italy, They've all benefited greatly.
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: A lot of this was started, not started, but co
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: signed by the Italians and the Vatican, the Catholic Church
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: and stuff like that. So yeah, of course, because if
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: then if we're allowing this to you know, to devlote
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: any further than you start digging, then it gets exposed
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: everybody's wrong doings for all these years, you know what
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: I mean. They're like, nah, let's not do that.
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: They couldn't just put an X on it. They couldn't
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: just substained.
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: They weren't there against it. They're like, nah, we don't want.
• 23:15
  Speaker 8: To expose saying no to I just wanted you to
• 23:19
  Speaker 8: understand we're not going to condemn that.
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: No, it was necessary because they're the one that's guilty.
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: If you're a child and you get a vote as
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: to your guilty, please do They like, nah, I ain't.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Doing it's not my thing is You have to also
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: realize that they benefited from it.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: All of this is not just the one thing. It's
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: a trickle down effects.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: You admit this thing, you have to start thinking about
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: a real conversation around reparations.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: And they've been avoiding that for forever.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: You know, like there are so many things that if
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: they admit to it one way or the other, they
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: then have to answer for all of these things that
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: in court they've essentially been pleading the fifth on that
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: and those places has been safe. But once we together,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: as you noted, nations come together and say this is
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: the thing, now they get to hold y'all accountable. It's
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: not just the people, it's not the Supreme Court, it's
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: not you know, some random activist in Arkansas. It is
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: the United Nations, which is another reason why Trump wanted
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: to pull them out of that, so that that way
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: he would not be accountable to them. Y'all can have
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: an opinion about America, but y'all can't do it because
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: we're not a part of that.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: No more what the United.
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: Nations, We're not.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Distance and back us out of it. It's nasty because
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: he wants to be able to do what he, you know,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: want to do without.
• 24:31
  Speaker 11: Consequence what I want to say.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: You're looking at me like I'm going to get your back.
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: So good when you think about this, now that you've
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: learned all about the translations, I.
• 24:52
  Speaker 9: Think it's great to learn about. Thus far, I don't
• 24:56
  Speaker 9: have much to say about it. Like there's people that
• 24:59
  Speaker 9: have something of importance to say. I don't really have
• 25:01
  Speaker 9: much to say about that. But it was it was
• 25:03
  Speaker 9: dope to hear, but hear about it.
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: I don't think it's dope. I think it's kind of
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: fucked up.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, yeah, it is.
• 25:10
  Speaker 9: But the fact that you guys knew it and you
• 25:12
  Speaker 9: was able to articulate these things, it was it was
• 25:14
  Speaker 9: dope to me.
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: Tennessee, if we're going into what Ghana did, right, Because
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: when I think about.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: Leaving New York, eventually I.
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: So for one one thing, right, I left my garage
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: here in Brooklyn and moved to Manhattan. I knew wanted
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: to make myself uncomfortable. I wanted to grow right. And
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: in doing that, it's opened my mind the other things
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: that I've been thinking about, like when I moved from
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: New York, where am I going?
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: And I always start Atlanta, Houston, LA. And I'm like,
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: this a world out here. It's a whole fucking world
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: out here. Why am I just thinking at these same places,
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: in this same system when by the time I leave,
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: I will probably be financially secure enough to go anywhere
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: and live however the fuck I want. Come to Mexico
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: City right which I heard Mexico City is one of
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: the best places for black people. Neighbor you lived there
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: in Mexico City right now?
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have an apartment in Mexico City, and I
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: have a place in California.
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: Fire.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: I heard Mexico City, and there's another town in Mexico.
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: It starts with the E. I think in and d
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: oh d so did you ain't celebrate? No?
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: But he I was away.
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: We did the Fasciest Yeah.
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but yeah, there's another city in Mexico that's supposed
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: to be good for for black people.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Our balley was a good place to move to.
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: The flight over there is crazy, though, Yeah, like seventeen hours.
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: I went to Ballei last year September, and I ain't
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: gonn for I only been there at one time. It's
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: one of a few places I've been where I'm I live. Yeah,
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: is good money felt, the energy.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: The people are beautiful.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: The cost of living with American dollars is kiss yeah yeah,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: yeah about that type.
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: Of people, my type of energy, Like they're friendly, but
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: they're spiritual that they're cool, they laid back. It's a
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: crowded city too, but you just don't get the same
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: energy that you normally get in crowded cities.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: It's like Jim and Russell Simmons was out there.
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, no extradition.
• 27:33
  Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, that's my man, that's your Yeah.
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: The reason the reason that the reason I brought this
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: up is because we don't have to go as far
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: as Ghana. Ghana was on my list of places to
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: go for a long time, but we don't have to
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: go as far as Ghana to see anti l G
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: B t Q loss Tennessee.
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, just I don't know to
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: hope that. Did you hear about this? I vaguely, but
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: refresh me Tennessee. Let me see if I have it here.
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: It was a couple of weeks ago. So yeah, do
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: do do do?
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Do?
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: Do?
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: You know? I always keep things in mind hand.
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: I wanted to go to Nashville too.
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: I've never been now.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: I mean it's a vibe like I've I've done the
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Nashville thing for a bit. But also I don't fuck
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: with it because the clan is too close. Like outside
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: of the other shit that they have going on, the
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: clan is way too close in Tennessee. I'm not sure
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: if y'all remember the viral video of the young boys
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: that were just you know, like selling waters or candy
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: or whatever they were selling. And mind you, these are
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: not young boys like teenagers. These are young boys like U.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I wanna say, maybe the oldest one might have been twelve,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: but they were given like ten like amongst them, and
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: they were selling their stuff. These white grown ass men
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: come over and start calling them niggers and nigglets, and
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: you know, antagonizing these boys, and the police come over
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: and tell the boys that they have to go, and
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: this is why, mind you, the men did not stop
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: when the police walked up. So the police are in
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: the scene as they're being called niggers and nigglets and
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: get to get the fuck on and da da da da,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: and the police come over as these young boys are agitated,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: saying like, you know, like they trying to respect and
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: that's the other thing, like we're still taught.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: To respect our elders.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: So they're stuck between respecting these men because they are
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: still adults, but also being called niggers in broad daylight.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: And then these people that are supposed to save our kids,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: the one that we tell our kids like police go
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: go find them, come over and say like y'all are
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: the problem.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: And that was like a huge thing.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: And then Tennessee has, like notoriously since all of this
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: stuff has happened, been a space where the proud boys
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: have marched proudly in the streets with their swastikas and.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: All of that stuff.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: And so for me, there's not enough blackness in Tennessee
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: to combat that because I don't see the counter to that.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I don't see black men also turning around and saying,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: y'all got as fucked up? And so I just don't
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: think that for as good of a drinking spot, for
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: as awesome as the night life might be, I don't
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: know how black people would feel safe when those types
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: of things happen on a regular and there's not enough
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: people that have been angered by it to do a
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: counter or something.
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: Do you think that really black men have the power
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: to shift that, Yes, in Tennessee, I do.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: I think that.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: The first of all, what I don't like is that
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: we have so many conversations, these podcasts in regular everyday
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: smakele of conversations about alpha men and black men and
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: if you just let black men lead, and I'm not
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: going to be a black man and be led by
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: no cissy, no fact, no punk.
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: No one say that it's not and they don't people
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: that people that I don't.
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: Believe none of the niggas that say all that for men,
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: and and that y'all niggas ISAs niggas.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Don't say that, y'all.
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: You just let you lead by example.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: You just are, That's what you are.
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: Just exist that way. All that extra shiit you talk
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: about preach about it gives up.
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: So this is what I'm saying. You just brought that
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: up as a reason. Well, all the taught them is
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: not to it's gonna go against the police. I ain't
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: changed the change the city, or change the town, or
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: change the state.
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: It's not happened.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: But the thing about that is those are the voices
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: that are galvanized in our community. And when people want
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: to justify why they don't fuck with a Jasmine Crockett,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: why they wouldn't follow a Deray McKesson, why they wouldn't
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: fuck with me, they use, oh, well, why would I
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: do that?
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Why would I follow this training?
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: When I got a doctor Umar that I could follow,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: And y'all still wait on that school to be built
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: twenty years.
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: Later, your doctor? What happened to doctor Umar? Is he
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: still around?
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: He was breakfast club.
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: He's fucking sukie, so he's not making as many videos anymore, A.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Good paying African Kucci.
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: Absolutely, he said he's just he said the school is done.
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: He's just waiting on the permits.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I bet.
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: And he said that there's some inspectors that's blocking it.
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: I bet, I bet I believe that.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: I don't believe shit that come out of that man mouth.
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: Would you send your kids to Doctor Omar School?
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: No?
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: Well, because it's just I don't want my kid to
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: be a test on me. It could be a great school,
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: but I don't know yet, and it's just so many
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: things that could possibly go wrong, even if his intentions
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: are good, and I do believe his intentions are good.
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: But yeah, I just need to see a little bit more.
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: I don't want to be rolling the dice that.
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: I respect that anyway, what I was saying, Tennessee, Damn,
• 32:29
  Speaker 8: I did it again, didnt. Tennessee Republicans voted unanimously to
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: advance an anti trans bill to create a public list
• 32:38
  Speaker 8: of trans people located in the state.
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: House.
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: Bill seven fifty four would force medical providers to provide
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: information to the state and identify a states.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's the test of that, because now that you
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: said it, that's the battle.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: That's the testing ground.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Do you have Mississippi that's trying to come up behind them?
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: And if I'm not mistaken, I think Texas is also
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: like a part of that little group, but they're the
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: testing ground. But what's funny is the amount of black
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: people cheering it on and clapping. Just know, like they
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: start with us, y'all next, right, Like I hope y'all know,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: like it starts with the trainings because they know that
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: nobody's gonna beat any lass. It's like, oh, y'all gonna
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: look for them, Yeah, them motherfuckers down so we can
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: find them. And then what happens when they find all
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: of us and they ain't got nothing else to do,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: They go to the next group of people that they
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: can't stand.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: And now the marginalized.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Group of people that would have stood with us to
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: help us out, y'all, y'all done got all of them
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: deported or killed or they locked up somewhere in D
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: block because you rooted for that. But now you need
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: those groups of people that would have helped to the numbers,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: and you don't have them, so now it's easier to
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: get rid of y'all.
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: So you know, I'm sorry, I'm just gonna say and
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: correct me if I'm going. But from what I understand,
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: those of the black folks that are inter trends are
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: that way because they're like for Christian and they believe
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: it goes against their beliefs or against their God or
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: against their Bible.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: That's what they say. That's what they say.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Most of the people that I know that claim to
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: be so anti trans couldn't even tell me Psalms twenty three, right,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And so it's one of
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: those things where I think that people lean on.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: That because that's the easy out.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: It's easier to say, well, the Bible says than to
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: say I don't fuck with it. Because my daddy taught
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: me that, and I never wanted to unlearn it because
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: it was easier to just accept what he taught me.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Nobody wants to look like the ignorant person in the room,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: and sometimes growing up realizing that the thing that you
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: were taught was wrong takes too much.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: It's easier for me to just continue to be this
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: nigga because women like this nigga. I get pussy being
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: this nigga.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: But if I start having friends, if I start being accepting,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I start being open, questions.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Come about that I don't feel like answering.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna just remain homo and Transmissic, I'm gonna
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: let your all niggas think the things.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to really engage. But Missic, Missic, you told.
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: Me about it yesterday.
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, she told me the whole new word that
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: they so missia.
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: They sounds crazy good.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: But missia is the messia who's that. It's the and
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: it's an adaptation of the word and is it good?
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: But missia is where it comes from, and it's an
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: unfounded hatred or disdain for So depending on the tenths
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: that you're using it in, you would say, like, somebody
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: is engaging in transmissia, or this person is transmissic or
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: homo missic.
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: Is different from phobia.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Because niggas like to play semantics.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: So when you say, oh, trum, you homophobic, fuck you me,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: and I ain't scared of y'all.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: I ain't got time to that. I'm sick of it.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: I'm sick of that.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: And so when I hit you with transmistic one, you
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: don't know it, so you got to think about it
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: before you just did not denounce it, right. But then
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: once I tell you what it means, dare you to
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: tell me that you don't hate me or that you
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: don't have an unfounded for no reason?
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: Because phobia is based in fear.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: It's based in fear.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Same ship and toilet, So now you're either going to
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: go against everything that you just said, because you did
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: just say I don't fuck with that ship, and miss
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: it means you don't fuck with that ship.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: So now you can't.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: You can't play sometis with me no more, because I'm
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: sick of the whole.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Like we ain't scared of y'all. We just don't want
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: y'all do. Okay, So you're a hateful person for no reason.
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: I'm baby Mama, miss it, Christaby Mama.
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: Miss it. But it's not unfounded.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a reason. I'm sure. I'm sure there's a
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: reason of why you feel like that.
• 36:38
  Speaker 8: Hope, every time you come on these shows, you're speaking
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: about trans rights and your disappointment with this lack of
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: support or people being fake or whatever it may be.
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: Is that a conversation you want to have today because
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: we don't have to.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: I don't.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: My thing is I think that it comes up because
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: people don't know what else that's talk to me about, well,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: at least.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: In the yeah.
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: Road.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, first of all, you brought up Tennessee
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: and you had a whole thing cooked.
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: And I was like, well you gotta go that far.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: But look, but I bought that up because it was
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: relevant in the in the situation, I think that it's
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: just hypocritical that y'all are going to be on this like, oh,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: we got to recognize this, but y'alln't want to recognize that.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: And I even saw like somebody in the discord was like,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: but how are they the same?
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: And that to me is somebody that.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Has to challenge the homo or transmissia that they hold.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: And it's because when you sit back and say, well,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: how are they the same?
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: What you mean?
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: There are civil rights issues and I hate when black
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: people be like, but it's not, but it is. When
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: you take away a person's right to experience life the
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: way that everybody else would experience it based off of
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: a dislike that you have of something that does not
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: affect people negatively, you are infringing on a person's civil rights.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: That is a civil rights issue. Me being trans does
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: not stop you from paying your bill, sending your kids
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: to school, living a happy life, being healthy, Fucking who you.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Want to fuck. I am just trans.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Nothing in your life changed today because somebody came out
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: to their mother and said, you know what, I believe
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I'm a trans person. But for whatever reason you got
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: a issue, those things are intrinsically linked.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: And so if the.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: People in Ghana who probably had that conversation on the
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: same day, can sit back and say, you know what,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: we are sick and tired of these faggots, and from
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: now on, if we find out that you a faggot
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: in Ghana.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: You are going to die.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Then turned around, five minutes after banging and gabbling saying yep,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: we agree, had the nerve to talk about human rights
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: for people in the whole nother country and say.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: That was fucked up.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Black people being brought into slavery, being disenfranchised, being told
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: that they can't have health care, being told that they
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: can't be with their families is fucked up. But what's
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: happening in real time and what you are doing as
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: a country to your.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: Own CITIZENSK yes, you don't think, but yes if I can.
• 39:02
  Speaker 8: If so, people look at things through different lenses, right,
• 39:05
  Speaker 8: So it's like, Yo, what I see happening in this
• 39:07
  Speaker 8: thin I somehow can separate it from what's in that
• 39:11
  Speaker 8: in that vein.
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: They they're able to do that.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: And that's the fucking problem because as a black person,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I don't get to not be black and trends at
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: the same fucking time. You get to just be black
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: and people be like, oh, but you can choose. No
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: the fuck I can't. Because my thing is, if it
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: was that much of a choice, and if it wasn't
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: a thing that we were born into, how the fuck
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: y'all be looking at these little boys four or five
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: years old? Oh he got a little sugar in his tank?
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Is that a choice?
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Are those manimism is a thing that he was taught?
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Is that a thing that he's grown into? Or is
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: that just who the fuck that person is and we
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: recognize it because we're adults we've lived longer. Or is
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: that just who that person is? He is that person
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: and he is both of those things at the same time.
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: But neither.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't.
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: They might look at him, they might look at him
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: at that way.
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: So what I'm saying when you compare those two things, right,
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: slavery and what happened with slavery and them not accepting
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: trans people or LGBT.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: I think it's all LGBT. I don't think they like
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: none of it.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: But but trans is the thing that they put on
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: the docket.
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: Oh it's trans they put they.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Don't say LGBT no more.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Every headline, every bill specifically names trans people.
• 40:20
  Speaker 8: Do you realize that people in elders in the black
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: community are not as progressive progressive as a younger one.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: I don't give a funk about none of that.
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: Do you realize it?
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: I do so if that's the case, and that's here
• 40:38
  Speaker 8: in America, conversations that are happening here in America. I'm
• 40:42
  Speaker 8: not sure what conversations are happening there, but I would
• 40:44
  Speaker 8: assume those are elders. I'm not, And it sounds like
• 40:47
  Speaker 8: I'm making excuses for I'm really just having a conversation,
• 40:51
  Speaker 8: you know where I stand. Are we able to say, yeah,
• 40:55
  Speaker 8: that's because they're not as progressive?
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: They are not when you are talking about actively rolling
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: back people, And that's what that's the part that y'all.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know why that's like that.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: That part, it's like I'm speaking English until I say
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: rolling back people sitting.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, I feel like y'all think
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: I'm speaking German.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Because if I were having this conversation to talk specifically
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: about the things that they do to black men, y'all
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: would be tuned in and everything that I say would
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: make sense, but I say they are rolling back our rights.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: This is not just not being progressive.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Not being progressive is I don't understand that shit, so
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: keep it over there, because that don't make sense to me.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: This is not that there.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Are elders that don't vote for shit use but they
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: hear something about a training and all of a sudden
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: they down to the vote in booth because oh, we
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: can't have that.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: There are people who don't know nothing about the trade.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Not not a dig, but like, there are people who
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: don't know nothing about the transplanting and slave trade. But
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: you tell them, oh, if you go down hand vote
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: against this, your kids. I got to learn about transhit
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: in school, and they down there. This is a problem
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: because you are disenfranchising a group of people who don't
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: affect your life in any the way than existing. And
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: I hate the conversation and I kind of don't want
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: to go there because there are no other women here
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: for real on show at least to have this conversation
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: with me.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: But I know that there's gonna be a.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Woman that'll see this that'll say, but y'all are because
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: y'all in our bathrooms and not in our gyms. We've
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: been there, bitch, We've been there. I've been going to
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: the bathroom. I've been doing the things. This became a
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: thing when them white people told you to make it
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: a thing. Yes, because I'm black and I give a fuck,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: and I hate the fact that be because I'm treands
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: and because I'm trends.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: All the rest of the that I'm saying doesn't matter
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: to some people.
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: Oh no, I don't think, Well, but it doesn't. I
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: know what you mean. I know what you mean. It
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: doesn't and people take offense to it.
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: I got a question, are you religious?
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Spiritual?
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: And so I feel the same. So the reason why
• 42:48
  Speaker 7: I asked that and agatting back to my other comment
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: about some of the like super Christians, I feel like
• 42:55
  Speaker 7: and for older black people, to Tahoe's point, a lot
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: of them are struck in their religion where they can't
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: they feel like they can't align themselves with the LGBTQ community.
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: Interestingly enough, like I went last few months, I've been
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: going down my spiritual religious rabbit hole, and I was
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: listening to some stuff from Farakahn and he's one of
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: my favorite. I don't know how I would describe him,
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: but I love the way he champions black people.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: That being said, like most activists and like most people,
• 43:33
  Speaker 7: they have the things that I don't agree with. Right,
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: And this is why I can't personally prescribe to any religion,
• 43:38
  Speaker 7: because there's something about his faith that would stop him
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: from championing championing your rights, you know what I mean.
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: And not to put that on him, because he didn't
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: say that, but I heard his speeches where he would
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: tiptoe around it, you know what I mean. Somebody asked
• 43:55
  Speaker 7: him like if if there were any homosexual that were
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: a part of the Millionare march, and he was like,
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: they're all welcome. He said absolutely, he said, but basically
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: he didn't say. I'm paraphrasing, but he basically said, like
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: how they used to do the military back in the day,
• 44:13
  Speaker 7: Like don't ask, don't tell, Like I don't have to
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: know that. But my question to him, if he was
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: in front of me, would be like what if you
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: did know? And what if they were outwardly they would
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: that be an issue? And that might be an issue
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: because of his faith, you know what I mean. And
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: that's where I feel like most people that prescribe to
• 44:31
  Speaker 7: religion will have an issue with your community, and I
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: think that might be a big part of the problem.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: But the thing about that is, if we look at
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: history Byared Rustin was the organizer of the million man March,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: of the March on Washington, Sorry, Bared Ruston. And that's
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: the thing, the fact that you even saying who what
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: you mean who? He was Martin Luther King's And I'm
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: not saying that. It's one of those things where I'm like,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: the history that is being rewritten to make it seem
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: like queer people ain't doing nothing but slinging around glitter
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: and making black men look feminine and weak.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: It's bullshit.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Bayard Rustin was Martin Luther King's right hand man the
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: entirety of the civil rights movement, and if there were
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: no Bayered Rusting, there would be no March on Washington.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: One of the largest civil rights actions that we did
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: to this date was picked up, put out, spun into
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: a web by a black gay man and given to
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: doctor Martin Luther King because they understood the time that
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: we lived in, and they knew that Bayer couldn't get
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: them people out there. But Bayer got the buses, got
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: the porter potties. Byer made sure that the things happened
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: the day before they pressed doctor Martin Luther King and
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Byered went up there and was like, y'all got us
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: fucked up. This is still happening openly gay. It wasn't
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: a secret, it wasn't hidden, it wasn't none of that.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: This man was an openly gay black man who was
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: one of the best civil rights movement leaders, and most
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: black people don't know about him, and when they find
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: out about him, they still bury him.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: Was James. It was a thing that we kind of knew,
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: but we didn't talk about.
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: You know who that is.
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: We know who he is.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: Of course it was a dig. You're right.
• 46:19
  Speaker 8: I don't like I don't like debating about things like
• 46:22
  Speaker 8: this with Hope because I could tell how not only passionate,
• 46:26
  Speaker 8: but how much it really affects you.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: We're all black, and when they come down the street
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: looking for us, should that day come when these crackers
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: finally say, you know, we're scared enough to make a
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: move and bust of grape, They're not going to give
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: a fuck that I'm trans.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: But the nigga next to me is.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: That's the that's the thing that's wild to me. And
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: the thing that's wild to me about it is that
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: it don't matter what these black like I've advocated for
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: men and deaths who had been killed by the police,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: who might have in his life, turned around and said,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: oh fuck that training. I don't know if George Floyd
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: was transmistic. I don't know if George Floyd was fucking
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: with the girls. And here I am on my platform
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: talking about this black man's death, because how dare you
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: that was fucked up? I don't give before. I don't
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: care what kind of drugs he was on. I don't
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: care what kind of father he was or wasn't. The
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: way that you murdered him was not okay. And there
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: are black people that can't put that aside when the
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: girls are being murdered by niggas that they were fucking
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: And it's crazy.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Because they don't matter what the headline says.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: The headline can say trans women killed by her boyfriend.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: The police can put in the report that they knew
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: that it was a sustained relationship, and it's still gonna
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: be put just in the comments.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Y'all shouldn't be tricking Peple. Y'all shouldn't y'all gotta tell people.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: So the fact that this man brutally murdered this woman,
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: severed her body into different parts and selled her down
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: different parts of the river, y'all don't care about that
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: as long as y'all can say that the black man
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: is absolved because he had to be tricked in order for.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: That to happen.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: But when you look at black LGBT people and when
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: you look at our work, the people who started Black
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Lives Matter moveing, no matter how you feel about it,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: no matter what it's become or wasn't, were black queer women,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: black queer women. Deray McKesson, one of the largest voices
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: at the time for Black Lives Matter was a gay
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: black man. And the thing about it was that a
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: lot of that people talk about how it lost movement
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: and momentum because the money was funny. No, when niggas
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: realized that it was lesbians and a fag doing.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: This work, they no longer wanted to support it.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Because it's more important to us that black men who
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: are a stereotype lead and be seen as the than
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: it does for us to be led by women who
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: are capable and or queer people who are just as capable,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: if not more. A lot of the time, when you
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: see the people that are doing the work, and when
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: you see people getting their ass boop and going to
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: jail and fighting and freedom doing the shit, it is
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: queer people and women, all of these niggas begging for
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: all of this attention in time, And da da da
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: da da, where the fuck are you at? Because right
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: now we need the Nation of Islam at these airports
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: to antagonize in these motherfuckers. Right now, I need the bloods,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: the crips and the Pirus and all these motherfuckers that
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: will fight a nigga about what fucking block you standing
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: on and what color you wearing. But we got women
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: being snatched away from their children and broad daylight videos
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: and y'all are doing nothing. But y'all will fight each
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: other about the name of a block you grew up on.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: But y'all won't.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Dare go out and fight these white men who are
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: scared of you. Whether you can fight or not, it's
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: just your We need your presence, and I don't see
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: the presence. But every time I turn around, there's a
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: black woman, there's a gay black man up in somebody's
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: face doing the work, only to turn around and be disrespected.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: She ghetto, she too loud, she's too masculine. I don't
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: want my woman like that. Women supposed to be soft.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I can't be soft when the fucking civil war is
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: coming and y'all ain't doing it fast enough.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: Make it happen, make it make sense.
• 49:58
  Speaker 8: Yo, I gave you that water like forty minutes ago,
• 50:05
  Speaker 8: you didn't even this is.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: I know that this is supposed to be fun, but
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: this is life.
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: No.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: I know I'm not talking, but.
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: I know no.
• 50:14
  Speaker 8: So this is the thing, right, Your lived experience and
• 50:20
  Speaker 8: your passion is super felt. I get it. I understand.
• 50:26
  Speaker 8: I can't really discourse with you about it because I
• 50:31
  Speaker 8: don't even feel comfortable doing that. If this is your story,
• 50:36
  Speaker 8: this is your life. This is something that you've not
• 50:38
  Speaker 8: only studied but lived through.
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: For so long. It's like, but it's our life, and.
• 50:45
  Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know what. I don't know what.
• 50:48
  Speaker 8: The crips and bloods and pyules. I agree with you.
• 50:53
  Speaker 8: I hate the western gang culture, but I would need
• 50:56
  Speaker 8: one of them here to have that combo as to
• 50:58
  Speaker 8: why they don't step outside of it.
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: I don't I don't know what to say, and.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: I think that that's a part of my problem. Why
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: because I feel like I'm outside.
• 51:08
  Speaker 8: I talk, I go to protests. I'm willing to champion it.
• 51:12
  Speaker 8: I'm one hundred thousand followers of three hundred thousand followers.
• 51:15
  Speaker 8: I talk about it all the time on my pages,
• 51:18
  Speaker 8: and I'm at everything. I challenge my co host all
• 51:21
  Speaker 8: of that. But you're not necessarily talking about me. So
• 51:24
  Speaker 8: now when you're taught, I don't even know what to say,
• 51:28
  Speaker 8: because I mean, it's just conversations.
• 51:30
  Speaker 7: These are things that need to be need to be
• 51:32
  Speaker 7: said and true. You know, I ask certain questions and
• 51:36
  Speaker 7: we can have this conversation for hours because I'm curious,
• 51:38
  Speaker 7: and I also believe that you know, if you call yourself,
• 51:42
  Speaker 7: I consider myself somewhat of an activist, and if you
• 51:45
  Speaker 7: if you fight for injustice, it has to be across
• 51:47
  Speaker 7: the board, you know what I mean. And that's why
• 51:50
  Speaker 7: most black activists believe in free Palestine and things like that.
• 51:54
  Speaker 7: It may not affect us here in America, but if
• 51:57
  Speaker 7: you allow any injustice to go without saying anything, then
• 52:01
  Speaker 7: you implicit and we have to understand what Hope is
• 52:04
  Speaker 7: saying and how it relates to everything that we are,
• 52:07
  Speaker 7: you know what I mean?
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: Absolutely?
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: Can I say one thing though about all male presence,
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: the black men's presence scare white people. That's powerful. You know.
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: When you said that, I thought about it. You know,
• 52:22
  Speaker 7: I could be in the whitest town ever with no
• 52:24
  Speaker 7: white people, and you go to a club, a bar,
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: the bouncer or security guard is always a black, big
• 52:29
  Speaker 7: black man. I'm like, Yo, that's crazy, right, They'll find
• 52:32
  Speaker 7: a big black man just to scare everybody.
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: It's true, right, So why don't we show up that way? Then?
• 52:41
  Speaker 7: I just to Hope's point, I don't think we recognize
• 52:44
  Speaker 7: that power. And I don't think that we care enough
• 52:48
  Speaker 7: about certain issues that don't directly affect us. And don't
• 52:53
  Speaker 7: see how it's all.
• 52:53
  Speaker 8: Connected Tennessee any of the places that we are super
• 52:59
  Speaker 8: I remember, like I said, my truck broke down in
• 53:01
  Speaker 8: a sundowntown. There's a big black community there. How is
• 53:06
  Speaker 8: it a sundowntown and it's a big black community there?
• 53:10
  Speaker 8: How is that a thing we won't rise up against
• 53:14
  Speaker 8: those oppressors? Why is it a thing that we can
• 53:17
  Speaker 8: kill and shoot? Like Hope said, niggas go to war
• 53:22
  Speaker 8: in La or any of those towns go to war
• 53:25
  Speaker 8: over your hat.
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: You can't wear that hat, you can't wear this.
• 53:28
  Speaker 8: But the motherfuckers is a person You was right down
• 53:30
  Speaker 8: the block and you don't never do nothing to nothing nothing?
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: What is that? And why is that brainwash?
• 53:37
  Speaker 7: It's a different type of fight though, when you know
• 53:40
  Speaker 7: that the law and the government and the resources are
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: on their side, you're gonna be a little bit more apprehensive.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: So the hope is right, fight we pussy pussy play
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: dress up.
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: I mean all right, I don't dress.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Up plan no, but it is because you put on
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: you put on the persona of a protect to. But
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: when it's time for you to protect me, that's then
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: it's bargaining. Now, now I get to bargain what kind
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: of protector I want to be. But when we have
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: in a general conversation, I'm the man, I'm gonna protector.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: I'm see me as this. But then we had the caveats.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Well it's ice, well, and there kind of protector.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: It's selective.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: But the training for that, though they train, they don't
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: go up against ice.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: These are basic niggas.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Half of these boys signed an application yesterday and they
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: are wearing they're wearing an ice They know they are.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: How many niggas you don't go to the gun range,
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: it can't bust are great?
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: Not many.
• 54:43
  Speaker 10: But I think that's the problem. I think that's that's
• 54:46
  Speaker 10: a fight, that fight fixed. I think that's what Hope
• 54:47
  Speaker 10: is saying.
• 54:48
  Speaker 9: No.
• 54:48
  Speaker 10: I think Hope is like in these situations too much.
• 54:51
  Speaker 10: I find that as men, a lot of us, we
• 54:54
  Speaker 10: always find the caveat, like we said, the ice to this,
• 54:57
  Speaker 10: it's always the reason on why we can't. We never
• 54:59
  Speaker 10: come the reasons on why we can or why we should.
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 55:03
  Speaker 10: And I told you, I was telling y'all the other day,
• 55:05
  Speaker 10: or we had to come to yesterday till when I said,
• 55:07
  Speaker 10: when I first got to school and I started studying
• 55:09
  Speaker 10: studying gender women's studies, and I was around a lot
• 55:11
  Speaker 10: of different type of people from the community. People used
• 55:14
  Speaker 10: to think that I study gender and women's studies, that's
• 55:17
  Speaker 10: why I got my degree in But that put me
• 55:19
  Speaker 10: in proximity around a lot of people from the community.
• 55:22
  Speaker 10: And then people that I love, people that I went
• 55:24
  Speaker 10: to school with, thought that I was gay at a
• 55:25
  Speaker 10: point or it had some type of something going on,
• 55:29
  Speaker 10: just because I was comfortable being around people working with people.
• 55:32
  Speaker 10: There was also an event called take Back the Night, right,
• 55:35
  Speaker 10: And I don't know if you ever heard of this event, hope.
• 55:37
  Speaker 10: It's an event that started in Canada and it's about
• 55:40
  Speaker 10: sexual sexual assault survivors. They come to this event and
• 55:44
  Speaker 10: they tell their stories and it's it's like a big thing, right.
• 55:48
  Speaker 10: So that's why I got my startup, That's why I
• 55:50
  Speaker 10: started in college.
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 55:51
  Speaker 10: So I did that program for four years straight, all
• 55:54
  Speaker 10: through my college career. I actually performed one of my
• 55:56
  Speaker 10: songs there about sexual assault, you know what I'm saying.
• 55:58
  Speaker 10: So I was very involved in this situation. But I
• 56:01
  Speaker 10: see all that to say, being around those people, hanging
• 56:03
  Speaker 10: out with them, going out with them, and them just
• 56:05
  Speaker 10: being my friends, you can tell how people, you know,
• 56:07
  Speaker 10: I can tell people viewed me and how people would
• 56:09
  Speaker 10: try to put things on me. But as y'all know,
• 56:12
  Speaker 10: I don't care about that type of stuff, so it
• 56:13
  Speaker 10: never affected me. But I do understand how other men
• 56:16
  Speaker 10: who are not confident in themselves, how they would just
• 56:19
  Speaker 10: go away from that just because of the view.
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 56:21
  Speaker 10: It's like, oh ya, y'all view me as this. Let
• 56:23
  Speaker 10: me just step away from it. I'm not going to
• 56:25
  Speaker 10: go out in March with y'all, I'm not going to
• 56:27
  Speaker 10: go to the you know what I'm saying. When y'all
• 56:29
  Speaker 10: go and we do the depbriefs in the room after
• 56:30
  Speaker 10: you tell your story, you're not going to have the
• 56:32
  Speaker 10: conversation with you. I'm not going to hold you and
• 56:34
  Speaker 10: let you cry on my shoulder because it's going to
• 56:36
  Speaker 10: be viewed a certain way. So I think most times
• 56:38
  Speaker 10: we don't do these things because of how we're going
• 56:40
  Speaker 10: to be viewed amongst ourselves. And I think that's the problem. Yeah,
• 56:44
  Speaker 10: that's the problem. That's the part of it. Is it
• 56:46
  Speaker 10: selfish to not think community?
• 56:52
  Speaker 8: Is it selfish to say, Yo, I just got worried
• 56:54
  Speaker 8: about the shit I got going on. I don't feel
• 56:55
  Speaker 8: like I'm in a place of power to extend that
• 56:57
  Speaker 8: to other people to be thinking about what other pe
• 57:00
  Speaker 8: people got going on. I just I'm not even taking
• 57:03
  Speaker 8: care of my own kids, the whole, the whole selfish.
• 57:09
  Speaker 7: But I can understand when you got your own immediate needs,
• 57:13
  Speaker 7: then how can you even.
• 57:14
  Speaker 8: So why is it that women, women, the trans community,
• 57:18
  Speaker 8: the gay community seem to see outside of that and
• 57:22
  Speaker 8: the men don't.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Because there's more at stake for us. There there's more
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: mistake for us. There was a woman who I just
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: discovered blue centric. She was making a point about like
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: the reason why there's a disconnect for some CIS women
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: and trans women. And one of the points that she
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: made that I think it's relevant for this moment was
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: that she said, everybody gets to run up and down.
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: I see that I have that. That's what I mean.
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: That's what I was asking you about because I had
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: that clip when.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: Everybody gets to run up and down except black women,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: and I would beg to believe like black trans women
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: and black I think black gay men, depending on what
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: type of black gay men you are, also don't have
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: that privile.
• 58:01
  Speaker 6: So she said, yah, go ahead.
• 58:04
  Speaker 8: She said that when I think it's gender and race, right,
• 58:09
  Speaker 8: black men are can come up in second in gender
• 58:13
  Speaker 8: right behind white men, right, and then come white women,
• 58:17
  Speaker 8: and then come black women.
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: Then race was it? Is it gender and race?
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: It was gender and race.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: So at any given point, black men and white women
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: are fighting for the second spot. So when we're talking
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: about gender, black men are on top of white women,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: but when we're talking about race, white women are on
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: top of black men. But there isn't a space where
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: black women and I would beg to add that black
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: queer people, especially black effeminate men and black trans women
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: can run up and down that same way.
• 58:50
  Speaker 8: You don't think that black queer men in gender still
• 58:53
  Speaker 8: come above.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: I think that if you're a black effeminatee man, like
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: you couldn't be a big freedom and be talking about
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: doing that.
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: Because that's there's no respect in that.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Now you might be able to be let me think
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: of a I can't think of a black version of it,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: right then.
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: You know what, I think you're right.
• 59:10
  Speaker 8: You know, if you view that as feminine or whatever,
• 59:14
  Speaker 8: as a man, you're not respected as a man.
• 59:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so you kind of lose that that credit, You
• 59:18
  Speaker 6: lose your ability to do that, you.
• 59:19
  Speaker 8: Know what I'm saying, Like you don't, I don't know,
• 59:22
  Speaker 8: I don't, Yeah, I kind of I kind of believe, you.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: Know, like you use, all of that stuff is snatched.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: And I think that the reason for that is, like
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: we don't y'all don't have as much as estake, Like
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: outside of being a black man, you are one color
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: away from having the benefits, the access, the privilege, the
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: ability that white men had.
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: That.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: But think about it, make.
• 59:47
  Speaker 8: It seem like, yo, we are the number one fear
• 59:49
  Speaker 8: the men.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Again, men in general, not just Black men, men in general.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: When bitches was like bear or the niggas they was,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: it was all types of women.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: Indian women, white women, black women.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: Black men have a story as well.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 8: And the reason I said I don't like when y'all
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 8: say that is because it kind of feels like an
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 8: invalidation of what's happened to Black men in relation to
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 8: not only ourselves, but to our families, to other women,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 8: to society. We feel like we at the bottom. We
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 8: or I don't know if it's everybody. I can't say
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 8: for everybody, but I know in the way I look
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 8: at it, a lot of times, it's like black men
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 8: feel like the black black women are more accepted or
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 8: get to go further or get more help, or and
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 8: we kind of just left.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 7: I feel like it depends on the space.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna pay you back. It's a little bit more
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: difficult for us.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I would say it depends on the space
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 7: because black men may be the most feared, but black
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 7: women are the most disrespected, So how can you weigh it?
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: In certain spaces and corporate spaces, they may left the
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 7: black women more because they may be more comfortable, but
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 7: in other spaces they may lift up black men more. Like, what,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 7: what's an example where they lift up black men more?
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: Maybe sports?
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 7: Politics, definitely politics, Yeah, but in corporate America, I feel
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 7: like black women may have But the.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 6: Thing so it's not necessarily for me, it's.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 8: Not to compare, but it is that when we are
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 8: highlighted as having more or or benefited from being a man,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 8: where I be feeling like, yo, that that kind of
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 8: invalidates my whole experience as a black man.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: I'm a man, Okay, I'm also a black man. It
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: feels like a.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 8: Double negative facts where and I don't think that the
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 8: women seeing that woman, but that's the comparison thing again,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 8: Kamala Harris like, again, that's the comparison.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 6: I don't even think. I don't.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: That's a whole different conversation. She definitely doubled a double negative.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: We saw that, right, so we both get double negative.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 8: Then why is the men the women looking at it
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 8: as we got it better?
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 7: That'sative.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: No, that's the case. We're the same playing.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 8: Black and Barack had a whole full running term.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 7: I mean, I know we careing apples and oranges, but
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 7: a lot of the pushback from Kamala Barack did not
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 7: get at.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: All true, especially about the blackness.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: And there were men who specifically came out and straight
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: up said a woman cannot lead this country. They didn't
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: give a fuck about her policies. They didn't care whether
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: or not she put black men in jail.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 6: And didn't care if she was black.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: They didn't care if she was black. She was a
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: woman's a woman.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 6: I agree, I agree. Did y'all understand my point?
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 8: Did you understand my point when I said that feeling
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 8: like it invalidates the black male experience in America?
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: I hear it. I just think that a lot of
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: y'all are scared, Oh.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely for sure, and feel somewhat powerless facts and
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 8: feel like we aren't respected, like yo, the woman y'all
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 8: supposed to be our backbone. Y'all supposed to have our back,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 8: and we feel like we're under attack a lot.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: The reason why, or angles the reason why we don't
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: have your back is because back in the day, I
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: grew up in a family where my granddaddy was a
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: man's man. My daddy was a man's man. Them was
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: niggas that was going who you said what to my daughter?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: And it was out the door and there was no conversation.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not giving you time we could talk about this, this
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: manut after I slapped your ass down, but I'm slapping
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: you down.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: Off the street.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: That my daughter, my wife, my whatever came home and
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: said so and so made me uncomfortable. When something happened
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: in community, if somebody was terrorizing community, the elder men
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: in the community ganged up together and said that you
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: young niggas on this corner, we're gonna break this shit up.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: We watched kumbayas growing up between the old heads and
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: the young boys. We watched these things happen on a
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: regular basis. When things were going on in the Civil
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: rights movement, the men were going out and saying, we're
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: gonna patrol. Y'all stay here. The women, we sat in
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: that softness because we could. We could afford to go
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: home and make y'all sandwiches for the patrol, because y'all
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: were doing the protecting.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 8: And then crack happened, and then and then the privatization
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 8: of the prisons happened, and then the whole Crime Bill happened,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 8: and it broke up the black family, and it lifted
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 8: up the black woman and kicked the black man out.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 8: And we're still trying to find our way back into
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 8: the home and back like we Literally a lot of
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 8: us didn't have dads or grew up in that situation,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 8: and so you got that guy raising another guy or
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 8: not raising another guy.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: We all have been through some shit and we're still people.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 8: So yes, I am still looking at the way the
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 8: world is knowing I'm supposed to.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 9: Be this this this this.
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  Speaker 8: Power of the house, the strength of the house, but
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 8: I don't have it, and women don't even respect me
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 8: no more, and y'all getting it more than us, and
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 8: y'all shitting on us every every other day about us
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 8: and not having headboards and shit. I don't know, but
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 8: it just feels like, Yo, we are in the attack
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 8: from every fucking angle. It isn't that I hate.
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  Speaker 6: You, but it's feels I don't feel safe with you.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 6: Hold on, hold on.
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  Speaker 8: And I also want to say this, I'm debating to
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 8: debate because I could do this from any angle. I
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 8: could do this from any angle, right, I'm debating to debate,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 8: but I think that a lot of the energy that
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 8: you get from black men, especially the ones on the
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 8: internet who's the alpha male and this that and ever
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 8: it comes.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 6: From hurt places. It's coming from hurt places.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 8: And these guys like they probably feel the same way
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 8: about their mom, but they mom did everything by herself.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 8: Dad wasn't in the damn house, So they have a
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 8: resentment towards women, you know that. And this shit is
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 8: just like, at some point, I just wish that we
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 8: saw each other, especially black men and black women. I
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 8: just wish that we just let all of this other
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 8: shit go and actually it took time to see each.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 6: Other, you know what I'm saying. And the more we
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 6: point fingers, the less of a chance that that's going
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 6: to happen. Tough.
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  Speaker 3: I think the issue is that we see each other.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: The problem is trying to unlearn the things that we've
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: grown accustomed to that create safety. Because I think that
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: for a lot of black women, there's a constant there's
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: a constant need to prove that you're good enough for
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: the attention of the man that you were born for.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: There's a constant need to have to prove that you
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: are exotic enough, feminine enough, X, Y and Z enough.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: While there are a handful of men that love black
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: women in the fire and the other There's so many
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: of y'all that look at those things and see them
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: as character traits that are masculine.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: And not worthy of your time.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: There's so much exalting of the exotic woman from wherever
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: the fuck. There's so much exalting of the white woman
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: because she shows up in her softness in a way
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: that black women just don't have access to. There's so
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: much exalting a femininity that was drawn up by white
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: men for white women, for the appropriation of black women
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: to fall in line to that. Y'all don't even realize
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: that the femininity that you are seeking from us was
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: never meant to hold us.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: That wasn't for us.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: That was white men telling y'all what they believe femininity
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: should look like, and y'all subscribing to it. And now
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: you're holding black women to a standard that white women
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: can't even meet most of the time, but you believe
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: that they do because they white anybody else.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 6: Because I could keep going. I mean, I.
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  Speaker 8: Think that the male problem, the black male problem specific,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 8: is when women are doing those things and it feels
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 8: like we're losing y'all more. It feels like y'all are
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 8: gaining more power, and I don't have the access to
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 8: that power. So I think that's our comparison to white men.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 8: We want that, We want to fit like we run
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 8: shit in our home. And the woman, because the white
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 8: woman is a servant, subservient to the white man. She's
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 8: unapologetic subservient to the white man. She will vote against
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 8: her own interest, she will do whatever the fuck she
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 8: can do to be the woman to this man, and
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 8: our women don't. And so we feel jealous because we
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 8: want that comparison to white men. It's not about being white,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 8: it's about being a man. But we don't feel that.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 8: Just at the end of the day, we don't feel that.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 8: And then thur women don't look at us that way.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 8: And then y'all are raising y'allselves up by getting all
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 8: this power and projecting this image of yourselves that is
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 8: not of a wife, it is not of a mother.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 8: It's a lit bitch. It's torquing on a table or
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 8: whatever it may be. By the way, I don't have
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 8: no problem with those things. I just want to let
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 8: y'all know I don't care. But these guys that don't
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 8: have access to women or to power don't feel strong
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 8: or strengthen themsels else they're gonna knock y'all down off
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 8: of that chair, off of that couch because it makes
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 8: it kind of makes them prop themselves up.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 6: Go ahead, bro, I think you was gonna say something.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: No, I was gonna say.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 9: We have a responsibility without authority, and responsibility without authority
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 9: is slavery.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a good point. Is that's a good point.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 8: That's what the that's what we feel like. We just
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 8: we're expected to do all of these things but not
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 8: don't feel any type of respect from our community.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 6: That's right, and that's just our experience.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: I hear that.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not debating that there are some instances
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: where that is in the true, but I think that
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: my my pushback to that is there are so many
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: rules in society that enable those things that y'all continue
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: to buy into. Agree, and so don't look at me
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: for your freedom when I didn't put you in the
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: cage in the first place.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: Y'all did that.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 8: You know, when I look at the LGBT community, that
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 8: word pride that y'all have, that's fire, but it actually
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 8: means something. And so I don't know if people realize that. Yo,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 8: when people come out the closet, they dead ass and
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 8: they don't want nobody.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 6: Can tell them. Shit. There's a pride in that. When
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 6: you go down to the.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 8: March, you see how they are in the street, they are,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 8: that's pride.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 6: Like I am me, I'm finally out.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna fucking my moms don't like me, I'm gonna
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 8: fuck if you don't like me, I'm.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 6: Out and I'm enjoying this.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 8: I'm sucking dick halfway through this shit, and I'm sucking
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: dick tonight and fuck you if.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 6: You don't like it. Black men don't have that.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 8: We don't have that sense of pride because the people
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 8: who're supposed to love us don't. They're disappointed in us.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 8: And yet and yet, and then the system. It feels
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 8: like the system is all against us and not all
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 8: against y'all, and we kind of just feel lost and powerless.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 6: We don't have that pride.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 7: Gant, Well, I'm gonna get back to something that you said.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 7: We don't win her point fingers. So we got to
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 7: start as black men, as individuals in this room, to
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 7: take accountability, to be better men. Agree, and once we're
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 7: better men, we're going to have better treatment and better
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 7: levels of respect. And then we have to as a
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 7: community have these types of conversations and share these conversations
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 7: over the internet, and hopefully these types of sentiments will
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 7: spread and then it'll just it's not going to happen like,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 7: all right, you need to change, No, you need to change.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 7: We all got to do work. It starts with the
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 7: individual and then the community, and then we could expect
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 7: different type.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 6: Of I just think that.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 8: You and I were born into a place where it's
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 8: easier for us to understand that. I don't want to
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 8: say my mother wasn't middle class, Say my mother fought
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 8: to be middle class and I fought to be middle class, right, right,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 8: But there's a lot of people that don't have the education,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 8: that don't have the mothers that was going to put
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 8: them in that situation.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 6: You have seen some fucked up moms.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 8: That are putting their kids into worse situations, like you know,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 8: these kids going to jail, you know it, you know
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 8: what I'm saying. And then maybe one of those kids
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 8: amongst five or six of them, says no, I'm going
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 8: to college, and the other ones is just tear The
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 8: Johnson kids the Johnson clan. You know what I mean,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 8: But my bad, I didn't mean that that way, but
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 8: you understand. But you know, finance and your community can
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 8: help deteriorate your belief in yourself and where you can
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 8: go and just yeah, you're care about the community or family,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 8: you might just not have that.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 6: I think. I hope you don't agree.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: I only call bullshit on the park y'all like being like, oh, y'all,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: don't do this, because if that's the case, black men
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: know where to come when when the ship fall apart,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: because y'all.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: Do it all the time.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: It's fucked black No, not women, it's fucked black women
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: until you on your last or your last or your
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: last and then all of a sudden, them same bitches
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: you would screaming fuck are the same ones that y'all
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: come back around to. So that that whole idea of like, oh,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: you know, we don't have the no your you do,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: but you're choosing to engage with people who don't respect you.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: Oftentimes y'all are choosing to engage with the lit bitches
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: that's working on the tables because that's the good look.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 6: No, it's also a way to gain power.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that if you're powerless, you want power if I
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 8: can get it from you, if I can get you from.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: Hu Tahoe the bad ones.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: No no, no, no no, because she ain't got no power
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: neither because she But who think deeper? Because who is
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: it for? Huh you picked it up.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: It ain't for her, It's for y'all, of course, for
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: the ego.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 8: We're trying to steal your power. But again, we need that.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 8: I'm collecting bodies.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 6: I need that.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: I have.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: The thing about you don't need me to do that.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: You know many other things that y'all value that have
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: nothing to do.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 6: I don't have access to those things.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 8: It takes It takes time and dedication and discipline and education.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: And if I could just get a check that all
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: the mother niggas want, I got them.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 8: I got her, and I got all of them niggas too,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 8: because they want to know what it's like to be me.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 8: It gives me a sense of pride to be me,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 8: and I don't have that.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: And that ain't you.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 6: It's a it's false, of course.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: That is that is a version of yourself cated. Other
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: niggas feel comfortable with who you are. That's not you. Agreed,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: and that's why she's never gonna be or the car
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: or none of the ship that you do. It's gonna
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: That's why y'all have the baddest bitches.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: Agreed and go cheat agree.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: That's what you're saying.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 6: That's that's what I'm saying.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 8: It's a false sense of security or pride or like
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 8: it's like a little boost and then it goes away
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 8: away and then you got to get another one.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 6: And but but that's an addiction.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 8: But it's also the only way a lot of us
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 8: know how to feel ourselves. It's like just doing temporary
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 8: things too, but they don't mean anything, and you don't
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 8: really realize get to that next level until you actually
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 8: in life you up it to the point where you're like, Yo,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 8: getting this degree made me feel that way, or buying
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 8: this home ship, being a dad makes me feel that way.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 8: Oh shit, being a stand up guide in my wife
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 8: like makes me feel that way.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 6: But we not. I don't know. It just doesn't come
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 6: to everybody. Men. You know what I thought, Your women
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 6: y'all are really interested.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 8: And I'm talking about siss had women specifically in this
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 8: common because y'all give life. And the reason why that's
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 8: important is because when y'all have a baby growing and
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 8: you yo, I wonder are women the center of the universe?
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 8: Because the man loves her tits because he sucked on
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 8: boobs he what is it called a lack tape breast
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 8: fed when he was young, so he has this attachment
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 8: to the woman's body or whatever from young. The baby
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 8: loves the tits, right, could the baby be like moving
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 8: the dad, moving the dad's hand away and feel like
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 8: those boobs of mine and all that This woman is
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 8: growing life within her fucking body and she has this
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 8: attachment to every single thing that happens with this being.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 8: Regardless whether they fifteen, sixteen, twenty one. I need to
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 8: know what my babies are. I need to outcome and
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 8: just sit with my daughter at thirty eight. They still
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 8: have this attachment because they raise that baby and from
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 8: the minute they knew they was pregnant, they start rubbing
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 8: a boy, they start rubbing their stomach and things of
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 8: that nature. Right, but they also treat the man that way.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 8: They have this nurturing thing that you're saying, yah, we
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 8: go run to that. It's something that is women it's
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 8: part of y'all because y'all give life and then y'all
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 8: compare yourselves to us. But we don't have that. We
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 8: don't listen. Listen, don't do that.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 6: Just listen. No, I don't want you to shut up.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 8: I need you to just process what it's like and
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 8: you you know, as a as a man, I wish
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 8: that I had that biological connection.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: To a child, which you could get pregnant in a way.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 6: In a way, I don't mean.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 8: It that way, honestly, wish that because what happens in
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 8: a woman's body and her psyche when she gets pregnant,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 8: it changes her completely.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 6: It changes her.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 8: She's going she Everything that mattered before that doesn't matter
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 8: no more.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 5: It's just this baby. Do you disagree. I don't disagree.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: I'm just trying to think about what you're saying.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 7: I wish I had that sense, but I've also heard
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 7: that that changed me as a man. If you hold
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 7: a baby to your chest without a shirt on, that
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 7: automatically creates more of a bond the skin and skin contact.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 7: So there's ways to create that type of biological physical connection. Obviously,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 7: it's not the same as being the food provider. You
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 7: know what I mean in that situation, But I was
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 7: just thinking about that when you were talking.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 6: You know, nine months of feeling this baby in your body,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 6: nine months a year.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 8: So I said, last time you did anything for nine
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 8: months straight, every day, every day, every.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: Minute, every minute, sleeping, eating, every minute for nine months.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 6: This thing is a part of you. And we be
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 6: wanting to fuck the men. We just literally just existing
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 6: outside of that union, just trying to make sure she's okay.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 6: The most we do is take them to the.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 8: To the uh, the doctor appoint pointments, make sure she
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 8: you know, you come around, you open the door.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 6: But you they have their own connection. That's biological.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 8: The only the thing that you have as biological is
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 8: that you shot in that that's it.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 6: Everything else is you gotta want that. You have to
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 6: want to be there. You have to.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 8: It's not like it's it kind of is a choice.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, they don't have no choice.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody has a choice.
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  Speaker 6: I don't see I don't Once you're having the baby,
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  Speaker 6: you don't have a joys.
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  Speaker 3: But that's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: There is a choice to be made by everybody in
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  Speaker 2: the situation. I think that again it goes back to
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  Speaker 2: the system that men created for other men. That keeps
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  Speaker 2: y'all from having those connections and those things. The reason
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  Speaker 2: why there's a separation is because women would most likely
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  Speaker 2: not often and it's not to say all women, but
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  Speaker 2: women don't want to be as sexually active. They're not
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  Speaker 2: bodies those through changes that some women look a little
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  Speaker 2: different during pregnancy than they do before they get pregnant.
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  Speaker 2: And so a lot of men got together and was like,
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  Speaker 2: during this time, my way of showing.
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  Speaker 3: Up is by not being there so I don't have
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  Speaker 3: to deal with the crazies.
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  Speaker 2: That's a social thing that y'all constructed so that y'all
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  Speaker 2: could be away while she is doing.
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  Speaker 3: The very thing that is bringing this little human being
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  Speaker 3: into the space.
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  Speaker 2: That was a choice made by men that has been
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  Speaker 2: perpetuated for hundreds of years that other men are just like, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's what we do. Like I go to work extra,
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  Speaker 2: I do the things. She get the ice cream in
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  Speaker 2: the weird shit, and I'm a great dad because I
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  Speaker 2: show up for the doctor's appointments.
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  Speaker 3: Awesome, you could do more than that.
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  Speaker 2: You don't do it because it's not socially the thing
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  Speaker 2: that you've been taught to do, and you don't want
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  Speaker 2: to you don't feel like being.
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  Speaker 3: To do, and that's what the society they taught men
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  Speaker 3: to do. That.
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  Speaker 2: Who gives a fuck about what society taught you that
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  Speaker 2: relationship between you and the woman that is giving birth
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  Speaker 2: to your No, it's not cheap.
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  Speaker 8: It's cheap because women are taught how to be women.
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  Speaker 8: Like from young y'all, your moms teach you to wash
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  Speaker 8: the dishes and not a season to show the fun,
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  Speaker 8: put the plate in front of the dad first, and.
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  Speaker 6: All of these rules show up.
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  Speaker 8: But who not the mom's coddling boys. The mom'sddle the boys.
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  Speaker 2: But that's not you were still taught to treat a
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: woman by first of all? Who else better to learn
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  Speaker 2: it from? Like people give shit about you know, single mom.
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  Speaker 2: But I think if you're gonna learn how to treat
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  Speaker 2: a woman, who else better learn it from than the
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  Speaker 2: woman that wants to be treated.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all move away from that shit as you get older.
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  Speaker 6: And then they establish in the back young what it mean?
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  Speaker 6: What I know that sounds crazy.
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  Speaker 8: I feel like men feel betrayal early thirteen fourteenth fifty
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  Speaker 8: first time they love somebody or whatever, then they find
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  Speaker 8: out she fucked real.
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  Speaker 6: And you're like, yo, I would love this girl. I
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 6: did all of.
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  Speaker 8: These things, and she's she's just a whore, And it
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  Speaker 8: hardens your heart against love or doing things for women.
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  Speaker 6: And I know that sounds it's nuts.
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  Speaker 8: But I think that we when you're saying doing it
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  Speaker 8: for it's different when it's somebody else outside of your crib.
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  Speaker 8: When your your daughter learns certain things from a mother,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 8: it's part of her upbringing to be this way. Well,
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  Speaker 8: I don't believe that boys get that same thing unless
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  Speaker 8: there's a dad in the house or like an older
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  Speaker 8: brother that they really respect. Like you actually have to
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 8: have somebody in the house that you respect to get
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 8: that from them, because you could also learn how to hate.
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  Speaker 6: Your brother or your dad if they're fucked up. Nigga,
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  Speaker 6: these sounds you laughing like this sounds like excuses.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not an excuse. It's just you know how
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  Speaker 2: many women can't stay there, mama.
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  Speaker 3: But they still there's still.
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  Speaker 2: But the thing I don't like that though, That to
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  Speaker 2: me now brings me back to the excuse. Y'all got
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: every excuse for why some of y'all just don't do
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: the right fucking thing. If the right thing is so obvious,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: but it is because you're just back here and name it.
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  Speaker 6: I do it. I know it's easy for you to
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  Speaker 6: say it, but another nigga might not say that.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not even that. Other niggas will acknowledge that.
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  Speaker 2: We know the difference between right and wrong whether you
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: enact or do the thing when it comes down, when
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: it comes down to this life ship and how to
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: treat people decently, even if that's not how you grew up.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: You know that talking to a random person that you
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: don't know that is not from your hood, they might
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  Speaker 2: not receive that. Well, you don't give a fuck, but
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: you know that it ain't right.
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  Speaker 6: Agreed, But you don't give a fuck. Agreed.
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  Speaker 8: You nailed that because not giving a fuck is a
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 8: big thing, and I think that's about respect for yourself
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 8: that you didn't have growing up, respect for others, or
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 8: not feeling respected. Right that being said, we're coming to
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 8: the end of part one. I gotta end it because
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 8: we can do. And they just sit here like, oh,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 8: this is good.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 6: I love you. I love you too, bro, I know
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 6: you ain't I love you too.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: I know I know.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 6: Toxic massil.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: Dude, I love him every day On the phone.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 7: I know, but you know, we gotta say it back.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 5: Probably front of the world stage. I know it's all right, yo, bro,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 5: ain't in front through. I was looking at the video
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 5: and I do look slimmer today. Bro, there's something I
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 5: don't know if it's the T shirt. I feel bad
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 5: I did back and BYLF today I don't see nothing,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 5: no progress.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 6: Get your over.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 7: Shirt.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: You look fine.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 7: Maybe put my sweat on.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: Look you did, You're building. You're building more muscle. You
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 4: look amazing.
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  Speaker 7: There we go.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 8: You made them insecure, feel good, proud of yourself. We'll
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 8: be back for part two.
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  Speaker 6: You can go listen on the Patreon oversee you on Thursday.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 7: So shameless,