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Tova Noel And The Transcript From Her Congressional Testimony (Part 4) (6/20/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to dive right
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  back into the Toauvin o Well transcript of her meeting
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  with Congress. Question would you fill out any kind of
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  blog or report for a round or account? Answer? So,
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  account happens throughout the whole institution, like at those specific
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  times that I give you. The irregular rounds every thirty
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  minutes in the shoe is specific to the shoe, not
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  a regular housing unit. In the shoe. The logs are
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  filled out for rounds the count. It's also filled out
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  throughout the whole institution for account. Mister Foy, if I
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  could have just one word, Miss Firebrand, sure we can
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  go off the record, back on the record, Miss Noel.
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  Just to clarify the rounds in the shoe, it's twice
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  an hour with no more than forty minutes in between,
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  so it's irregular rounds. Question Okay, were you required to
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  fill out a report for every one of those the
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  regular rounds? Answer? Yes? Question what did that report look like?
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  Answer a logsheet? Question? How long would that take you
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  to complete? Answer? For the logsheet, I would fill it
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  out before, like filling it out or in before or
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  sometimes after, depending on the day, in hopes to make
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  the rounds, not at the accurate time that it's been
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  being filled out. Question was that how it was supposed
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  to be done? Answer? No, but that's how I seen
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  them do it, so I did the same thing. Question
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  did someone show you how to do it that way? Answer?
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  Not specifically showing me, but that's how I observe them
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  doing it. Question okay? And what were you writing down
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  on the round log? Answer the time question so you
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  would have she it gets cut off by Noel like
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  it'd be the tears. So I think it'll say like
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  El Tier j Tier, and then it'll have the times.
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  Question okay, answer and your signature your initials? Question what
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  was the signature supposed to represent? Answer? Who did it? Question? Okay?
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  And were you certifying that the inmates were in their cells?
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  Answer no, you're certifying that you made the round? Question okay. Answer,
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  I think the count would be that you're certifying that
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  they're in the cell. Question okay, would you ever report
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  whether on a round or afford institutional count any unusual activity?
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  Answer no question anything out of the ordinary that would
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  get reported? Answer no, question you would only report for
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  the number of inmates, for the count and for the
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  round that they were in fact checked on. Answer yes.
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  Question okay, what were the cell blocks in the shoe?
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  What were the lock systems? Like? Answer regular lock like
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  you put the key in, you turn it, and it's locked.
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  Question so a physical key? Answer yeah. Question would you ever,
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  whether you were conducting account or around, would you ever
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  physically unlock the door? Answer? So the person the keys
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  are the person that's on the grill doesn't have the
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  keys for the cell door, and the person that's going
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  down range doesn't have the key for the cell door.
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  Question okay, answer so you can't really not that you can't,
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  but you wouldn't have it. Question So would the access
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  to lock or unlock the door the person that was
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  doing the range wouldn't have the key with them. Answer
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  right question okay, answer, it'd be the person on the grill.
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  Question was that standard? Answer yes? Question was that like
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  protocol that was required? Answer yes, mister Emmer jumps in question,
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  and I apologize if I'm going to make you repeat yourself,
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  but you'd mentioned earlier that account required two individuals to conduct.
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  Is that right? Answer yes? Question was that the same
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  for a round. Answer for a round no question. And
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  you had mentioned that mister Thomas had told you earlier
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  in the night in question that he didn't want to
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  do account do you ever make any comments about not
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  wanting to do rounds as well? Answer? So let me explain.
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  So with the count, the person is on the grill
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  and then one person goes down and counts. Then you
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  switch places and the other person goes down and counts.
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  With a round, you still have two people because somebody
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  has to open the gate, but the one person can
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  make the round. The one person doesn't have to go behind.
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  So you still need two people physically going to the tier,
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  but the round can just be one person the count
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  you have to cross count. Question what's the gate that
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  you just mentioned, Noel? Every cell block has a gate
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  the grill, So like to get in the cell block,
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  you're opening the grill door? Question? Okay, mister Emmer, just
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  a general question here. You had mentioned mister Thomas not
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  wanting to conduct the rounds. Was that the first time
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  that had happened during your time working at the shoe
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  where an individual said they don't want to conduct rounds,
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  Miss Noel, No, because I worked the four to midnight.
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  Also where my other colleague was tired from working a
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  triple He was on the twenty second hour of his shift. God,
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  that's such bullshit. So if a pilot works extra hours
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  and crashes the plane, it's not his fault. No, it's
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  his fault. If you're too tired to work, don't work,
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  mister Emmer, thank you, mister Grant. Who is your colleague?
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  Miss Noel BONHAMI? Miss Noel? His name bon HAMI. Question, so,
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  moving forward to August ninth, twenty nineteen, you checked into
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  your shift at four pm that day? Is that correct? Answer? Correct? Question?
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  And what time did you leave the next day? Answer
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  after eight? Question? Am? Answer am correct question? How many
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  rounds did you conduct in the shoe on your shift
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  on that night? Answer on the for to midnight? Question yeah? Answer,
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  I don't have an exact number, but I did a
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  few rounds. I can tell you. I can't tell you
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  an exact number. Question and what about counts? Answer for
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  the counts? I counted at ten improperly? Question improperly because
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  Officer Thomas did not want to do it with you?
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  Answer bon HAMI question bon haami? Thank you? How many
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  rounds would you say that mister Epstein cell got the
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  night of August ninth, twenty nineteen. Answer, I can't give
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  you an exact number, but a few, like we went
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  to go feed. While you're feeding, you're going to each tier,
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  you're conversing with the inmate. You give out toilet paper,
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  you're going to each cell, you're conversing with the inmate.
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  So there was a few. I can't give you an
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  exact number. And that was on the flour to midnight
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  and Epstein was not there the entire shift. Epstein would
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  have come up later on that evening because he was
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  an attorney conference. Just to be clear, So like at
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  four when I had come on, he's not there. Question
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  do you know what time he came into his cell? Answer?
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  I want to say after eight. Question what did that
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  process look like? The moving of the shoe inmate from
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  one cell like with his attorney to a shoe cell. Answer,
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  so when Epstein got to the shoe, he came in
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  the shoe with his name was Bullock, and he was
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  placed in a shower. He didn't go directly to his cell,
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  but placed in the shower to use the phone, not
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  the shower. Question why was there a phone in the shower.
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  Answer because there is only one jack that works near
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  the shower, so he was placed there where it was
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  plugged in because the jack was closest to the shower cell.
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  Question could inmates make calls from the shower? Answer that's
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  where they put the shoe to make the call because
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  the jack is there. Question right, Could they make calls
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  anytime they wanted to to shower? Answer? No? Question was
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  it regulated? Answer? So in the shoe it's specific to
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  like a certain time that you get to use the phone.
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  And I think you're on the disciplinary you don't get
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  to use it. That's like different. But that day Bullock
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  allowed mister Epstein to use the phone. Question and Bullock
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  was the correctional officer. Answer No, Bullock was a counselor
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  question okay, answer a unit counselor question okay, mister Grant. Question,
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  you mentioned that you would converse with inmates when giving
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  them their food or when giving them toilet tries such
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  as toilet paper. Can you recall what your interactions with
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  mister Epstein were when you would interact with him? Did
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  he see him in good spirits? Did he you have conversations? Answer?
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  He was never there for that question. He was never
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  there for that, Okay? Is that unusual that inmates is
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  never there when you're providing food or providing toilet tries?
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  Answer for mister Epstein because he's downstairs with his attorney
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  the entire time that he's allotted to be with his attorney,
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  so ninety percent of the time he's not on the
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  shoe unit. Question understood, Thank you. Answer you're welcome. Question
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  were you aware that mister Epstein attempted to commit suicide
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  in his cell on July twenty three, twenty nineteen. Answer yes.
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  Question how did you become aware of this incident? Answer
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  and inmate told me? Question do you know whatch inmate?
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  Answer Tartaglioni. Question is that mister Nicholas Tartaglioni. Answer yeah,
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  So he's the source of all this information about what
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  happened in that jel cell. Go ahead and believe it
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  if you want. We're not going to be buying it here.
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  Question how soon after the incident happened were you made
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  aware of it? Answer the next day? Question was that
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  your next shift? Answer yes, question so the inmate told
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  you on your next shift? Answer correct, Mister Grant, did
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  anyone else at the MCC inform you of mister Epstein's
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  suicide attempt. The first one, mister well not to my recollection.
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  No question, were you involved in any way of handling
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  of the incident? Answer of the attempt at suicide? Question yes, answer,
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  I wasn't on shift that day. Question Okay, was there
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  anything that was happening the next day while you were
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  on shift? Answer no, Mister Foy, I need to have
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  a word real quick with miss Noel. Mister Foy, The
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  thing I'm trying to clarify, right, you're saying that Jeffrey
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  Epstein attempted to commit suicide on July twenty third, twenty nineteen.
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  After the fact, of course, there were reports to suggest
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  that maybe he didn't write, that it was some sort
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  of way to manipulate a cell situation and different things,
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  whether right Tartaglioni did something to him, and then of
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  course Jeffrey doesn't remember what happened. So when we're saying
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  he tried to commit suicide on July twenty third, that's
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  not her saying that, because it's up in the air
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  whether that was actually a suicide attempt versus a manipulation
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  on behalf of Epstein in the case, or if it
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  was just an attack by TARTAGLIONI to send a message.
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  It's amazing that so many people discount that. But it's okay.
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  In about five years, when I'm proven right again, we'll
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  be here. Question. So I just didn't want it to
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  be that she is somehow confirming that he tried to
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  kill himself on July twenty. Third question, and we have
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  some questions that will come up that will help clarify
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  that question as a result of the incident, where you
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  directed to take specific approaches to mister Epstein, Answer no question.
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  Did you have to make any sort of special report?
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  Answer no question. Fill out any log answer no question,
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  make note of any of his behavior? Answer no question.
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  Did you have to speak with any MCC psychologist? Answer
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  no question. Would MCC psychologists come and visit mister Epstein
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  while you were on shift? Answer no question. At no
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  point while you were working in the shoe Did you
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  see an MCC psychologist visit mister Epstein? Answer not on
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  my shift. Question Did you know whether they did? Answer?
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  I don't know. All right, folks, We're going to wrap
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  up right here and in the next episode, dealing with
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  the topic. We're gonna pick cup where we left off.
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