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Ripple Episode 1 (Netflix) · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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Speaker 1: This is a Bramble Jam podcast.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark. I'm Megan, a longtime Hallmark fan.
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Speaker 1: I'm Wendy. I'm a former Hallmark hater who now co
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Speaker 1: hosts a Hallmark podcast.
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Speaker 2: Today's episode is a special one because yes, we are
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Speaker 2: talking about a Netflix series, but before anyone panics, Ripple
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Speaker 2: was originally developed for Hallmark before making its way to Netflix,
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Speaker 2: which explains why it kind of has that familiar feel
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Speaker 2: that we know and love. So if you're new here,
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Speaker 2: welcome and to our Hallmark faithful, don't worry. We're still
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Speaker 2: very much in our Hallmark era. We're just excited to
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Speaker 2: follow a story that still carries out Hallmark DNA, even
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Speaker 2: if it's streaming somewhere else. Today we will be discussing
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Speaker 2: season one, episode one of Ripple, which is now streaming
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Speaker 2: on Netflix. The episode is titled A Stone's Throw and
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Speaker 2: for everyone we are on all of the socials as
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Speaker 2: Girls Gone Hallmark.
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Speaker 1: Hey, if you have.
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Speaker 2: Thoughts on Ripple or anything else, quite frankly, email us
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Speaker 2: Girls Gone Hallmark at gmail dot com. We do a
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Speaker 2: sort of regular mailbag episode where we read emails from
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Speaker 2: listeners with their thoughts, so you can do that if
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Speaker 2: you have thoughts on Ripple. We are going to be
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Speaker 2: dropping our reviews weekly through the end of the series. Correct,
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Speaker 2: So if you are.
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Speaker 1: Watching and have some thoughts and want to jump in
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Speaker 1: the discussion, please girls, go one Hallmark at gmail dot com.
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Speaker 2: We're going to kick off our discussion of Ripple season one,
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Speaker 2: episode one with a synopsis.
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Speaker 1: The episode is titled a Stone's Throw, a greeting man
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Speaker 1: and music exec, a father in crisis, a conflicted woman,
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Speaker 1: and a pebble that causes a ripple effect, connecting the
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Speaker 1: lives of our for strangers. For anybody new to the podcast,
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Speaker 1: we do a segment of top that we call News
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Speaker 1: and Notes where we run through the people who are
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Speaker 1: involved in the creation of the show. We're gonna kick
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Speaker 1: it off with talking about our director. Episode one was
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Speaker 1: directed by Amanda Tapping. Amanda has fifty six directing credits,
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Speaker 1: which include series like The one hundred and With an E, Motherland,
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Speaker 1: Fort Salem, and Murder in a Small Town. The writers
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Speaker 1: for episode one are Michelle Gianusa, Ava Taylor, and Jerry
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Speaker 1: Kanto Georgis.
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Speaker 2: Michelle is the showrunner of Ripple. She has just one
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Speaker 2: previous writing and producing credit, The Dead Girls Detective Agency.
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Speaker 2: Ava Taylor also has just one additional writing credit for
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Speaker 2: the television show Good Trouble And This is Jerry Kanto
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Speaker 2: Georges's first writing credit.
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Speaker 1: Kind of surprised by all of that. Yes, it's a
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Speaker 1: complicated story. I agree. I can't even imagine, like the
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Speaker 1: murder board that they.
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Speaker 2: Created, you know, I do know what you're talking about,
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Speaker 2: to weave all this together, red strings, tying all of
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Speaker 2: our characters together.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Frankie Faison plays Walter. He's known for The Wire
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Speaker 1: Banshee and Coming to America. Faison brings a wealth of
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Speaker 1: experience and warmth to the role. His acclaimed work in
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Speaker 1: the Killing of Kenneth Chamberlain and recent roles in Hello
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Speaker 1: Tomorrow and The Rookie Fed's hint At a depth he
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Speaker 1: can bring to Walter.
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Speaker 2: Julia Chan plays the character of Chris. Julia Chan's past
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Speaker 2: work includes Netflix's Archive eighty one, The CW's Katie Keene,
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Speaker 2: and Bell Media's Saving Hope.
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Speaker 1: Ian Harding plays Nate. Ian is well known for Pretty
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Speaker 1: Little Liars. He has appeared in movies like Ford Versus
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Speaker 1: Ferrari and Hallmark's The Magic of Lemon Drops, as well
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Speaker 1: as the limited Hallmark series Holidays.
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Speaker 2: Sidney Agadong is a singer songwriter who appears as Aria.
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Speaker 2: She has thirteen total acting credits. She appeared in the
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Speaker 2: live action Leelo and Stitch, as well as the TV
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Speaker 2: movie Trapped in the Farmhouse?
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Speaker 1: Is that a Lifetime joint?
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Speaker 2: Probably?
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Speaker 1: Marcy t House appears as widow Tara. Marcy has a
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Speaker 1: wopping one hundred and twenty six acting credits and most
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Speaker 1: recently appeared in eight episodes of Murder in a Small Town.
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Speaker 2: Sarah Swire plays Ellis. Sarah has twenty five acting credits,
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Speaker 2: most recently appearing in the series Murdoch Mysteries and The
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Speaker 2: Last Frontier.
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Speaker 1: How cool is the name Ellis?
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Hey, let's take a quick break and
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Speaker 2: we're gonna come right back with our first impressions of
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Speaker 2: this episode of Ripple. Hey, Wendy, what was your first
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Speaker 2: impression of episode one of Ripple? It's more about the series, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and all my notes say is wow season two immediately. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: my first impression is a low emotional world building. Final boss,
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Speaker 2: let me ask you, were you surprised by this show?
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Speaker 2: Was I surprised? I will tell you spoiler alert. I
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Speaker 2: very much enjoyed it. I will tell you this does
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Speaker 2: not feel like a Hallmark show, So I'm surprised in
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Speaker 2: that sense, got it? Can I tell you my very
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Speaker 2: first like, yes, no shade to Hallmark, but I'm honestly
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Speaker 2: so happy this didn't air on Hallmark because people would
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Speaker 2: not have rallied for it.
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Speaker 1: Ripple is exactly the kind of show that Hallmark traditionalist
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Speaker 1: would have torched, right, And like I say, no shade
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Speaker 1: to the Hallmark fan. I'm a Hallmark fan, but.
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Speaker 2: This is so not Hallmark. It's not Hallmark. It's not Hallmark,
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Speaker 2: and I would love if this is the direction Hallmark
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Speaker 2: was headed.
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Speaker 1: So do I and I think it's a real misstep
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Speaker 1: that they let this go.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I think if it premiered on Hallmark or Home which
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Speaker 1: it was originally for Hallmark Plus, Is that right? Yes?
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Speaker 1: I think we'd be looking at another Providence Falls, which
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Speaker 1: was a three part mini series on Hallmark Channel that
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Speaker 1: wasn't super well received.
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Speaker 2: No, but if you're listening to this and you have
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Speaker 2: a Hallmark Plus subscription, it's worth checking out that series.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. The reason why I, in my opinion, think that
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Speaker 1: the fans wouldn't like wouldn't have liked this on Hallmark
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Speaker 1: is because it's not built on the guaranteed tidy ending correct,
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Speaker 1: And as we record this, I have seen the first
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Speaker 1: three episodes. I haven't seen the whole series yet. I
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Speaker 1: don't know how it ends.
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Speaker 2: It's not built on familiarity, right there's you know, Hallmark
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Speaker 2: follows a very familiar structure. It's why they're so successful,
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Speaker 2: and this is not built on that, and that's why
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Speaker 2: it works. Look this pilot, this is one of the
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Speaker 2: things I liked. They're setting the stage, like the emotional
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Speaker 2: narration that we get from Aria. Small choices change big things.
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Speaker 2: We're all strangers before we meet. I mean, it kind
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Speaker 2: of like sets the mood, lets us know where we're going,
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Speaker 2: and then they just weave this tapestry of all these
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Speaker 2: tiny little choices that ultimately push these characters closer together.
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Speaker 2: Now I have not seen beyond episode one yet, but
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Speaker 2: I feel like, and I could be wrong, we're then
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Speaker 2: going to dig deeper into these characters' lives, perhaps see
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Speaker 2: bits and pieces of their past, how they came to be.
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Speaker 2: But this just the way it brings us all together
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Speaker 2: at the end of the episode is masterful.
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Speaker 1: I think so too, And like I said, I don't
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Speaker 1: want to spoil anything, but in episode two you'll see
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Speaker 1: like the ripple effects, there's other like fringe people, like
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Speaker 1: it's you know, like it keeps growing bigger and bigger
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Speaker 1: and bigger.
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Speaker 2: And then it's the girl in the hospital.
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Speaker 1: The girl in the hospital, there's her brother, like in
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Speaker 1: all these like you know, these kind of characters where
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Speaker 1: you at first watch would be like they're not significant
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Speaker 1: to the story, but like it's just all like weaving together.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I would say this is the kind of
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Speaker 2: show like you should watch twice, because I watched it twice,
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Speaker 2: and there are things you will miss until you realize
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Speaker 2: that you're like, oh wait, that was significant, and then
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Speaker 2: you go back and then you see how they laid
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Speaker 2: the ground work for that moment exactly exactly. Let's dig
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Speaker 2: into some things that we liked about this episode more specifically.
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Speaker 1: Huge, huge shout out to Andrea Higgins, who is the
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Speaker 1: music supervisor for this show. I felt the music is
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Speaker 1: doing some of the emotional heavy lifting in this episode.
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Speaker 1: I freaking loved it. If you're familiar with our reviews
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Speaker 1: our podcast Hallmark in General, there's a show actually it's
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Speaker 1: on Netflix too. A show called The Way Home, another show.
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Speaker 2: That has excellent music. This is the same format like
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Speaker 2: so good. It sets a tone it is He's so
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Speaker 2: so good.
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Speaker 1: So shout out to Andrea Higgins.
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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed Walter's grief storyline.
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Speaker 1: On Protect this Man at all Costs.
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Speaker 2: I enjoyed. I mean it ripped my heart out and
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Speaker 2: stomped on it. The slow realization of what has happened,
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Speaker 2: the silent hospital, voiceless reveal as she's passed his equally
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Speaker 2: silent breakdown again. All of this set to the music
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Speaker 2: that you talked about. When he walks in the door
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Speaker 2: alone with her bag of hospital belongings, he talks about
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Speaker 2: we get reveals like he's not sleeping, he's keeping her
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Speaker 2: side of the bed. The pebble moment he has back
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Speaker 2: at their spot where they met in the beginning of
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Speaker 2: the episode, the grief. He is showing us what he
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Speaker 2: is going through. I want to wrap this man in
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Speaker 2: a bubble. When we get to the end of the
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Speaker 2: episode and he's forming these new friendships with Ellis and
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Speaker 2: with Nate, I just feel so protective of his seem incredible.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the rest of the cast. Yes, I
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Speaker 2: personally feel like casting is.
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Speaker 1: Unreal in this. In this show Ian Harding. Obviously I
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Speaker 1: watch Pretty Little Liars. I know him from that show.
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Speaker 1: I review a lot of Hallmark movies. I know him
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Speaker 1: from Hallmark. I think he's great in this. He does.
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Speaker 1: He does a lot of emoting with his face yes,
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Speaker 1: and I feel, oh my gosh, the micro expressions, the
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Speaker 1: exhaustion he shows, the guilt, the tenderness. The scenes with
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Speaker 1: his wife make me physically uncomfortable. Right.
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Speaker 2: He's juggling a bar, He's in the middle of a
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Speaker 2: divorce that we don't fully understand the details of. He's
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Speaker 2: co parenting a daughter who is hard of hearing. And
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Speaker 2: that cough that makes me gives me that nerve. I
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Speaker 2: mean we know, obviously they don't tell us, but we
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Speaker 2: know the second he's coughing, this is bad. Like must
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Speaker 2: bidi'es me said, sins are tingling. When his wife's like,
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Speaker 2: maybe you need an antibiotic, I'm like, mmmm, so not great.
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Speaker 2: And that's when, like, when I'm watching this, I was like, oh,
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Speaker 2: how was this going to be on Hallmark? Right?
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Speaker 1: The amount of bad things happening in this first episode
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Speaker 1: I think might have scared people away.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think we're going to be redefining
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Speaker 2: what it means to have a show with a happy ending.
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Speaker 2: And look, I mean talk about the abount of bad things.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Aria. Aria is experiencing infertility, and we
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Speaker 2: also learned she's experiencing infidelity that.
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Speaker 1: She doesn't know about.
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Speaker 2: It, she does not know about and she's in therapy.
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Speaker 2: She's got stuff to deal with in therapy that she's
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Speaker 2: not even willing to talk about, because we see her
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Speaker 2: therapist try and push her to talk about certain things
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Speaker 2: and she changes the subject. There was something that caused
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Speaker 2: her to abandon her music at one point, she doesn't
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Speaker 2: want to talk about it. The therapist suggests that she's
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Speaker 2: angry about something else, not just her infertility, but she
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Speaker 2: doesn't want to talk about that. I mean, there's so
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Speaker 2: many layers to her. She's very she herself is not messy,
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Speaker 2: but her story is very messy. And there, I mean,
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Speaker 2: there's a lot going on there.
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Speaker 1: Her entire arc to me, feels like a slow car
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Speaker 1: crash that I can't turn away from. It is I
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Speaker 1: don't I don't know why I'm so drawn to her story.
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Speaker 1: It feels like it's gonna hurt the most and I
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Speaker 1: don't know why.
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Speaker 2: Finally we have Chris.
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Speaker 1: I love Chris, I love the character Chris. I love Julia.
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Speaker 1: Chan I was like, Okay, I need to do a
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Speaker 1: deep dive on her. Right.
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Speaker 2: She's great, She's really great, and like she just has
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Speaker 2: this strong presence when she storms into that bar and
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Speaker 2: she's like, I'll have your best read, and he's like,
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Speaker 2: we're not open, and she just she was not taking
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Speaker 2: from it for answer. She and Nate have such incredible
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Speaker 2: banter back and forth. I mean, they just give it
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Speaker 2: to each other this whole time, but they're developing this
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Speaker 2: beautiful relationship at the same time. I mean they almost
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Speaker 2: kiss what. On the one hand, I'm rooting for that.
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Speaker 2: On the other hand, I'm fairly certain that Nate just
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Speaker 2: received a terminal diagnosis on the phone, or at the
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Speaker 2: very least a not great diagnosis. Whether it's terminal or not.
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm waiting for you to be like, and he's
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Speaker 1: technically married.
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Speaker 2: Still he is technically married, but they've been separated for
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Speaker 2: a year. Yeah, he's yes, he's married. It seems like
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Speaker 2: the wife may be the hold up because he talks
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Speaker 2: about I'm looking for a new place. It's going to
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Speaker 2: be close to our daughter school. He's real short with her, yes,
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Speaker 2: and she's like, oh, you're just pushing it along. He's like,
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Speaker 2: it's been a year. Yeah, look, what's the backstory there?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? I need more backstory.
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Speaker 2: And when he shows up at the hospital, he's like,
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Speaker 2: the school's calling me telling me the check bounce.
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Speaker 1: What's going on? More story there?
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Speaker 2: Yes?
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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. Did you ever watch
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Speaker 1: this series This is Us or a Million Little Things?
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Speaker 2: I watched This is Us, I didn't finish it. I've
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Speaker 2: never seen a million Little Things.
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Speaker 1: To me, this show is kind of in that lane
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Speaker 1: like this would have been Network TV. I'm trying, like
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like I was gonna compare it
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Speaker 1: to the Grays, but Maybearentoo Parenthood. Yeah, kind of heavier themes,
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Speaker 1: big ensemble cast, big ensemble cast. It works for me.
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Speaker 1: I also can see it's soft around the edges, which
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Speaker 1: makes me believe it was developed for Hallmark. If it
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Speaker 1: was originally developed for Netflix, it wouldn't have a little
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Speaker 1: more teeth to it, like maybe some cursing, you know,
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Speaker 1: get crazy, and it wouldn't if there was cursing in it, Like, look, guys,
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Speaker 1: I have a terrible potty mouth. If there was cursing
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Speaker 1: in it would be believable. Yeah, with what they're going through,
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Speaker 1: With what they're going through, exactly, exactly. Oh we didn't
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Speaker 1: talk about Ellis and Tara. Oh yes, I think these
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Speaker 1: are great additions to the cast. They're not the main four,
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Speaker 1: but they're definitely involved. When Tara goes to Walter's wife's
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Speaker 1: funeral and then gives him like a pamphlet for like
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Speaker 1: a support group or whatever, why is this woman so wonderful?
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Speaker 2: He tries to hand it back and she pushes his
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Speaker 2: hand back and says, what doesn't bend breaks, And then
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Speaker 2: he goes tells her this really isn't for me. When
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Speaker 2: she says, it's cool, I get it. Like we're going
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Speaker 2: through the same thing. I thought we could maybe connect
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Speaker 2: help each other out. So she's willing to meet him
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Speaker 2: where he is. The church support group isn't his thing,
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Speaker 2: and now they're going to develop this friendship because they
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Speaker 2: both lost their wives. The person I am perhaps in
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Speaker 2: intrigued about is Ellis. Tell me more so we see
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Speaker 2: Owen say I'm out, I'm getting a real job. I
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Speaker 2: can't sit around here waiting to be discovered. Come to
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Speaker 2: find out Chris, our music exec saw him, was charmed
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Speaker 2: and he took a corporate job. She says, man, Owen,
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Speaker 2: we were supposed to starve together forever.
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Speaker 1: We know.
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Speaker 2: Ellis is an artist. She's selling her designs on a
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Speaker 2: T shirt and Nate's like, someday you're going to be
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Speaker 2: in an art gallery, and the realization that Owen is
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Speaker 2: wrapping it up tapped out gives his guitar away. He's
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Speaker 2: moving on the look on her face when she realizes, Oh,
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Speaker 2: when am I going to have to make that same
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Speaker 2: choice for myself as well? What's her story there? I'm
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Speaker 2: very intrigued by Ellis. I also find her so charming
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Speaker 2: behind the bar. There's a character on TikTok that I'm
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Speaker 2: going to link to in the show notes, where it's
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Speaker 2: the bartender or the barista that everyone's in love with
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Speaker 2: that has this quiet coolness about them. I'm going to
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Speaker 2: link this TikTok because Ellis is giving that. And I'm
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Speaker 2: not knocking her performance by comparing it to a TikToker No,
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Speaker 2: but I hear what you're saying. She is the epitome
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Speaker 2: of like quiet cool.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's super cool. I want to see more of
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Speaker 1: that unfold as well. Now I have a bunch of
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Speaker 1: little a little likes. Can we go through them?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Loomy West is their cheers. It's there a central perk.
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Speaker 1: I love this choice. It gives the characters a home
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Speaker 1: base in a show that is all about chaos. Basically,
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Speaker 1: I love that Ny and Chris for me, have lightning
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Speaker 1: in a bottle chemistry. Yeah, I'm rooting for them.
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Speaker 2: And the man is married, I know, like he's separated.
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Speaker 2: I don't get hung up on this. I'm truly surprised
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Speaker 2: that you're not. I do feel like your relationship is over.
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Speaker 2: They're married a name only.
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Speaker 1: I agree with that.
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Speaker 2: When Chris walks into the bar, and that final scene
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Speaker 2: in the bar when they're all coming together, do you
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Speaker 2: see the way they connect across the room and their
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Speaker 2: eyes meet and they both smile at each other. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: my gosh, I love the way New York looks in this.
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Speaker 2: I can't remember where they filmed this, at some mare
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Speaker 2: Canadian I'm sure, But doesn't it make New York. It's
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Speaker 2: giving me as a girl who grew up watching Felicity,
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Speaker 2: it gives me those same sort of New York.
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Speaker 1: Vibes like I was so drawn Luca. I was so
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Speaker 1: drawn to New York City watching Felicity. It's the same
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Speaker 1: feeling I have watching this too. And I don't know
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Speaker 1: if they goronto okay, but I mean there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of like New York scenes obviously, but yeah, it just
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Speaker 1: makes it feel cool.
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Speaker 2: I guess my final thing that I really like about
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Speaker 2: it is that it feels a little voyeuristic watching this
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Speaker 2: show because the viewer knows how things are all are.
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Speaker 1: Connected, right, but they don't know. I don't it has
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Speaker 1: a term. I don't know what that's called in storytelling.
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Speaker 1: It just makes for compelling TV for me, Right, Like.
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Speaker 2: Walter and his wife didn't know that Chris runs right
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Speaker 2: behind them during their opening meeting, and Aria doesn't know
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Speaker 2: what the Pebble has done. And Aria doesn't know that
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Speaker 2: Chris basically followed her home, you know, deflex when Aria
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Speaker 2: asked her, Oh do you live in the building? Oh no,
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Speaker 2: I know, you know, right, Like, yeah, they don't know
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Speaker 2: all of these things. Question for you the cuff link moment,
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Speaker 2: Yeah we know because they flash on it when he
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Speaker 2: comes home from the bar. They kind of zoom in
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Speaker 2: on that. When Chris meets Aria's husband.
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Speaker 1: She's like, do I know you?
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Speaker 2: And then she's like, oh, probably not. Do you think
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Speaker 2: she actually recognized him as the guy in the bar
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Speaker 2: or do you think she was just like, oh, that
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Speaker 2: face is familiar.
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Speaker 1: I think it was just that face is familiar. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: she may put two and two together eventually.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk what we wished for in this episode.
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Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't have any real wishes yet. I did
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Speaker 1: mention it earlier that if anything I have like my wishes,
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Speaker 1: I wish it would have been developed for Netflix from
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Speaker 1: the ground up, because then it would have had a
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Speaker 1: little more punch grit to it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I just have a few little wishes so early
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Speaker 2: in the show. I'm just waiting for more world building
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Speaker 2: into these characters because we just get such a lightwash
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Speaker 2: of several of them. I already miss Brenda. I understand that,
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Speaker 2: like her death is kind of the emotional heart of
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Speaker 2: this episode, but I also could have used like two
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Speaker 2: more little scenes of their marriage before he loses her.
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Speaker 2: I hope we get her in future episodes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, as memories or whatever.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she was great for the John Aria infidelity reveal.
20:45
Speaker 2: I felt like maybe it was a little bit too
20:47
Speaker 2: quick that we find out it was him, Like, I
20:50
Speaker 2: feel like we could have had that moment a little
20:52
Speaker 2: it like a little slow burned out about what's going
20:55
Speaker 2: on with the two of them. And then I just
20:57
Speaker 2: have a lot of questions, like I assume that Chris
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Speaker 2: was fired, but we don't see her get fired, Like
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Speaker 2: did she just decide like, oh, this isn't working for me?
21:04
Speaker 2: Like what happened there? I really want to know more
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Speaker 2: about all of these people, but I probably have the
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Speaker 2: most questions about Nate's situation at this particular point. What's
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Speaker 2: going on with the marriage. And I also feel like
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Speaker 2: there's more going on with the daughter, like when he
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Speaker 2: loses it with her, is that just a moment of
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Speaker 2: like I'm sick? You know, kids can kind of be
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Speaker 2: frustrating or are they having trouble connecting already?
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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, the little girl that plays the daughter,
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Speaker 1: she reminds me so much of your daughter, like when
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Speaker 1: she was little, like that those big brown eyes and
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Speaker 1: that all that brown hair. Yeah, she's real cute. Yeah,
21:37
Speaker 1: Well let's talk.
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Speaker 2: Did you see that moment? I have a couple Okay,
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Speaker 2: let's hear it. Pretty little liars. Fans know that the
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Speaker 2: name Aria.
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Speaker 1: Oh it made me double take for a second. Ian
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Speaker 1: Harding's character I can't even remember his name of his
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Speaker 1: character on Pretty Little Liars, but he was a teacher
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Speaker 1: who got involved with the student. The student's name is Ari.
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Speaker 2: I have real mixed feelings about it, but it are
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Speaker 2: you is not a name you hear that often, and
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Speaker 2: for it to play in this is kind of interesting.
22:08
Speaker 2: I'm thought, I thought that was really I don't even
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Speaker 2: know if it's clever.
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Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't know if it like, oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: exactly exactly. The other thing, when the little girl who
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Speaker 1: is hard of hearing it, runs out into the street
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Speaker 1: in front of the car, I gasped out loud. Can
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Speaker 1: you imagine being a parent of a child who cannot
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Speaker 1: hear and you're trying to get their attention? Oh my god,
22:31
Speaker 1: can you put yourself in that driver's perspective?
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Speaker 2: The emotional beats around parenting that daughter. When the mom
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Speaker 2: like she's getting frustrated, she and Nate are getting heated,
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Speaker 2: and he's like stop yelling. She's like why, it's not
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Speaker 2: like she can hear me, and then she like gasps,
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Speaker 2: and Liz like shocked at herself.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's there. Their situation is complicated, Yes, very messy.
22:57
Speaker 1: My only other did you see that is something you
22:59
Speaker 1: bumped on earlier. This show does require close watching. Yeah,
23:04
Speaker 1: to watch it once or twice, because you'll see things
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Speaker 1: that are connected that maybe you don't catch the first
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Speaker 1: time around.
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Speaker 2: M mmmm hmm. Yeah. I think the magic in this
23:16
Speaker 2: show is to what you said about everything that it
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Speaker 2: reveals to the viewer that it has not revealed to
23:23
Speaker 2: those participating in it. The Blue Pebble cameo tour, which
23:27
Speaker 2: ties all of our main characters together in a way
23:29
Speaker 2: that they are unaware of. At this point, Nate does
23:34
Speaker 2: not appear to be worried at all about his cough
23:37
Speaker 2: and eventual CT scan, but I feel like those womens
23:40
Speaker 2: are screaming to the viewer. Yeah, you know the fact
23:43
Speaker 2: that the doctor talked about it. I actually really loved
23:45
Speaker 2: that scene with the doctor. The writing is so good.
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Speaker 2: The choices we make now matter, but the choices we
23:52
Speaker 2: made in the past matter too. And then he's like,
23:55
Speaker 2: no judgment except for the sugar thing. Everyone needs a
23:57
Speaker 2: cooking now, and then something about that's speech.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
24:01
Speaker 2: Also the filling of the biopsy scene. I thought that
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Speaker 2: the tone of that was perfect three to four days,
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Speaker 2: you'll have the results whatever, she says, Like everything about
24:11
Speaker 2: it is so clinical and so exactly how it goes,
24:14
Speaker 2: and so very like buy the book. Yeah, because they
24:16
Speaker 2: just churned through these and the vast montory of time.
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Speaker 2: It's nothing and no big deal and you go on
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Speaker 2: with your life. I love the little bit about Nate
24:24
Speaker 2: that he can't stop talking. He just kind of brings
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Speaker 2: things up. Can't stop talking to the doctor, talks to
24:29
Speaker 2: the tech doing the biopsy. Oh, I like I used
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Speaker 2: to like strawberries. Yea.
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Speaker 1: He just fills the quiet, spills the time.
24:36
Speaker 2: And the episode ending mic drop of Aria showing up
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Speaker 2: at the bar but not going in.
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Speaker 1: I had to watch that scene several times because I
24:46
Speaker 1: was like, does she see something through the window? Does
24:49
Speaker 1: she see her husband? Does she see a reflection? What
24:52
Speaker 1: makes her spin out and run away from it?
24:54
Speaker 2: Yeah? Does she just panic? Because when you the shot
24:58
Speaker 2: is really interesting. She looks through the window and they
25:00
Speaker 2: show it coming in and out of focus. Yeah, So
25:02
Speaker 2: is there something about is she recognizing someone? Is there
25:06
Speaker 2: another connection that we aren't aware of, or is she
25:10
Speaker 2: just like I can't Yeah, why is she backing off?
25:15
Speaker 2: There's something about her story that makes her afraid. Yeah,
25:20
Speaker 2: excellent series. I'm still very excited to see where this goes.
25:24
Speaker 2: This is a must watch show. It was trending on
25:26
Speaker 2: Netflix yesterday. I saw I Love when it breaks the
25:30
Speaker 2: top ten.
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Speaker 1: Me too. My worry is this And if you guys
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Speaker 1: didn't know, this was filmed a while ago, quite some
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Speaker 1: time ago. If Netflix is like yo, I think it's Lionsgate,
25:39
Speaker 1: who actually is Yeah, if they say we want to
25:42
Speaker 1: do another season, is it too late for that? I don't.
25:45
Speaker 1: I don't know how that works.
25:46
Speaker 2: Like, have these actors moved on to do other things?
25:48
Speaker 1: Yeah?
25:49
Speaker 2: I mean I think if Netflix has come back, they're
25:51
Speaker 2: gonna come back show me the money, right, you know.
25:55
Speaker 2: I think it's all not that all that unusual for
25:57
Speaker 2: stuff to be that spaced out, especially in this day
25:59
Speaker 2: and age of streaming, where we drop it all and
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Speaker 2: then it's going to be another full year plus before
26:04
Speaker 2: we get something new.
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Speaker 1: Fair.
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Speaker 2: I think it's not that unfortunately unusual.
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Speaker 1: I do also think it's a weird drop that Netflix
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Speaker 1: put it out at the beginning of December. Is there
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Speaker 1: any holiday sprinkled in? We don't know timeframe? Right?
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Speaker 2: Have they told us, like, what part of the year.
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Speaker 1: We're in I don't think I don't think I've really
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Speaker 1: and they are wearing jackets though, so maybe it probably
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It just is interesting to me that Netflix
26:31
Speaker 1: just was like, all right, let's put it out right December.
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Speaker 1: Here we go, Here we go.
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