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Hellhounds vs. Dogman with Author John Vandeventer · The Cryptid Huntress

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Well, good afternoon everybody. It's the crypton Huntress. I'm Jessica Jones and
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welcome into a glitch in the matrix where we usually have several glitches before we
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get this show started. And man, we were having such a good time
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talking before the show. I have John Vendaventer here, author of the Relicks
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book series, is here with me today. We're going to have such a
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great time. We're going to be discussing hell hounds versus dog man, okay,
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And I was about a minute late because I got carried away talking to
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John backstage. There are legends and sightings of blackford, red eyed, vicious
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beasts that lurk around graveyards and cemeteries, seemingly guarding the underworld. They are
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associated with places where executions are particularly violent, murders have taken place, and
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whenever they appear. They're usually said to be an omen of death. Tells
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of hell hounds go back to at least the eleven I guess around eleven twenty
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seven a d in literature, and stories of them exist to this day,
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alongside sightings of dog men in werewolf light creatures across the world, particularly in
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the US and in Europe. We're going to be discussing hellhounds and dog men
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today. And to help me go over all this, we have John Vendaventer
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here. John is a sixteen year veteran of the United States Air Force.
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His first novel, Relics, was published in twenty seventeen, after he spent
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a little over two years writing in the novel, writing the novel and researching
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the topic of Sasquatch as he wrote. In twenty eighteen, he and his
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wife moved to Honobi, Oklahoma, in the heart of Oklahoma Sasquatch Country.
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He's been a guest speaker at Hanobia Big Hanobi Bigfoot Festival in twenty eighteen,
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and served as an MC for the twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two festival.
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Let's See. He's now completed two complete series Relics fiction adult series in
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the Shadow Chasers young adult fiction series. And he has retired, which is
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a loaded word, retired, and he is now. He's just released his
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new book, the Channeling of his new series net Fall. Okay, and
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I just got my copy of his book yesterday. I cannot wait to get
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into this. Please help me. Welcome to the show, my friend,
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John Bendaventer. I am, how are you hey? I just wanted to
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share my glitchen and matrix. So that's my that's my iPhone tripod. So
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if he ended up with a shot of my carpet, it's because I breathe
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too hard or something and knock my phone off the pencil box that's holding it.
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Oh my gosh. There's always glitch. You know. We didn't have
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a technical glitch, but you had. You had a three D glitch over
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there today. So we always the show must go on, and we always
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make it work, don't we. There you go, we do. We're
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troopers over here. Yeah. Well, John, thank you so much.
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I got your book and I cannot wait to read it. Tell us before
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we get started, tell us a little bit about your new book that just
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came out. Okay, it's a it was meant to be a standalone.
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I wanted to do a standalone UFO type deal, and as I started writing
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it, I thought, man, there's so much to add to this.
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I'm probably going to make it a trilogy. And as I continued writing,
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I was thinking, well, I'm man, I sure could use that character
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from Relics and this and that. So actually it's kind of a companion to
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Relics and even the Shadow Chasers trilogy because Shadow Chasers took place in twenty fifteen
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twenty fourteen. Well it's twenty twenty five in this novel, so those kids
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have all grown up and I'm finding places for them in the next series.
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So it's, uh, it's gonna be a UFO alien encounter engaging thing with
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a twist. I don't want to give anything away, but it's looking at
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it from a different perspective and it's a different threat. We'll just put it
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that way. Another threat. There's always a Threatris, Well, you got
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to have something threatening to make it in you know. Yeah, it sounds
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like modern day. It sounds like modern day. There's always a threat,
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you know. Yeah, if I get really bored, I just don't pay
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the electric bill for a while and see how long I can grow. You
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know, I need attention. You live on the edge man like Actilia.
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Well, you know, with things that are going on in the world right
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now. I mean, we've got aliens coming out of portals in a mall
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down in Miami, and uh you know, we got cern being cut on
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timeline shifts and Mandela effects, and we have dog Man reports, we have
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dog Man. We have an uptick in a lot of cryptid sightings too.
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Now you live over near O, Nubby. If I'm finally saying that right,
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I think, Nubby, we're in Oklahoma. That is Sasquatch country out
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there. Uh so, do you have you guys had any more or any
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heard of any sightings lately or anything. Nothing In a couple of years now,
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it's been real quiet. You know, I'm wondering if they're there,
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if things like the logging affects them, because you know, there's a big
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timber industry here in these Kaimichi mountains, and yes, Oklahoma does have mountains
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in the southeast corner. And it's been really quiet. I haven't heard,
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you know, anything, nobody havn't any sounds or encounters or anything like that
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for the past couple of years. I'd say two years. It's been quiet
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awesome. Well, you know, there'll be another uptick ebbs and flows with
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all like all things. And you know, I've been getting out for the
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past two weekends. Now, I've gotten out with my well, I went
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up with my son. Actually I took him out into the woods on two
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different locations. One was the meadow and then the other one was down at
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the Troop Heard corridor. So we've been out bigfooting and going places where we've
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had dog man reports excuse me, dog man sightings. I have not cited
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a dog man yet. Okay, Uh, somebody did make a comment on
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one of my posts I posted we found we came across an abandoned house,
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like an old, dilapidated old home, and it was full of stuff.
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It looked like maybe some squatters have been living there, or maybe some hunters
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have been using it as a blind. I don't know. But somebody made
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a comment that it looked like a wind to Go shack. So I mean,
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I've never come across the wind to Go. That's another crew that I
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have not really dived into yet. But like more towards Canada, that's like
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a it's a Native American kind of cryptid? Is it not spiritual thing?
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Maybe? Yeah, it's some kind of walking zombie like not like what's the
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other thing of skin walker? It's kind of a verd Is it like a
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virgin of the skin walker? I think? Isn't it kind of is?
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Yeah? Excuse me, Well, this happens every time I go live.
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I don't know, I name my cob dropsyeall, yeah it is. It's
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like it's like a skeleton. Okay, it's like a zombie skeleton. And
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I don't I don't know. I don't know. Well I have to look
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into that in the future, because today we're looking into something that I have
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never done a show on before, and that's hell hounds. And I guess
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y'all everybody in the audience can probably tell I actually wrote it. I wrote
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it wrong. I wrote hell hounds like two words and it's actually one word.
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And I just I just caught that this morning, Okay, so I
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went back and changed that all over. So you know, what is the
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difference between a hell hound and a dog man? Well, you know,
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dog Man's like it's supposedly encrypted hellhounds. That legend goes back to the ancient
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Greeks, and it's pretty much what you would think of like a guardian to
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the gates of Hell. I don't know it's keeping you out or keeping you
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in, but you know they're they're in Greek mythology, Norse, Northern Europe,
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Asia, India, similar creatures or creatures that do the same basic things.
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You know, it's been it's been talked about. It's a legend spans
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the world and through all, you know, through all the civilization. It
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seems since you know, since civilization became aware of, you know, and
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talked about like the spiritual side or the presence of a heaven or hell,
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they seem to have been around. I know in the eleven twelfth century in
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England there was a lot of reports people walking around at night with might encounter
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one on a road or a trail. And I remember as a kid,
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you know, I would read things, paranormal stuff, and I remember stories
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about hell hounds in England being reported. Now, I was there three years
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and I never saw one of three years I was there. But I don't
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know if anybody's ever seen the old Sherlock Holmes movie hown do the Baskerville's.
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I think that was based supposedly based on a hell lound. Oh yeah,
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you know when I was when I was going through some information about hellhounds,
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I started thinking about that movie that I watched when I was a kid that
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was pretty terrifying to me. It was called Kudo. Do you remember that.
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Yeah, he was a hell lound for sure, I think so.
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I. Actually, I don't know if you weren't born and you know,
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there's a lot of people that watch my show that are a lot younger than
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me. If you were a kid of the nineteen eighties, this was a
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This was a really cool movie. Actually, but it was like, here,
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this is a real dog man right here, right here, just kidding.
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This is the guy I guess, I guess he dressed I have to
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put. Yeah, this was great. But yeah, this was a movie.
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I think Stephen King wrote this movie from the book actually yeah, and
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that that dog actually it's not an actual hellhound that that guards the gates of
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Hell, but it it had rabies. Okay. It was almost like a
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story about you better get your dog vaccinated or else. Okay. You know
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an old book by Whitley Streever. It's a novel called The Wolfing and it's
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kind of kind of like kind of a hell hound story, but it takes
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place in Manhattan, and I remember reading it in the early eighties and it's
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a really good book. I think they made a movie out of that.
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But if somebody's looking for a good kind of hellhound werewolf kind of thing,
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find The Wolf In and read it. It's really good. Oh yeah,
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I have to check that out, you know, because we have a whole
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lot of movies that are made about were wolves, like The Howling and I
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mean we even watched Michael Jackson transform into a were wolf during his his video
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thriller. Okay, where wolves just have a place in you know, pop
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culture, I guess in a way. But yeah, Kudo was scary.
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Who would have thought that Saint Bernard could be so scary? Okay, but
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they are. But okay, but I have not really seen a whole lot
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of movies about hellhounds, and hellhounds are portrayed as having like three headed dogs
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and things like that. Uh So I figured maybe we'll kind of go through
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a little bit of the information about hellhounds and then we're kind of going to
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tie in some dog men to it, and some stories and some actual sightings
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of dog men, and how they're they're so close in nature, and how
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they're different as well. So so yeah, because I loved looking into hellhounds.
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I had never even I've never done this before. A good example of
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a hellhound might be the old movie Ghostbusters, remember too, dogs of Yes,
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I think the kind of gargoyle, but very doglike if they were gargoyles.
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Yes, oh yeah, I remember that for sure. I love me
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a good gargoyle too, and I'll love me a Ghostbuster movie. Okay.
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So there are different types of hellhounds, John, Uh, it's a broad
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term that covers kind of two groups of dogs, and one being the literal
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hellhounds, which are actually from Greek mythology that standguard of the underworld. Now,
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when I think of a dog that guards the underworld, I think of
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Anubis, and and I know Anubis was a jackal. We've established that Anubis
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was a jackal. But he looks like a dog, okay, and so
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most people think that he's a dog. But there's also something called the black
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dog. Okay, this is another another type of a hell hound. And
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uh, and so and a lot of times when we hear about a dog
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man, we hear that they're either gray or black. Almost every single one
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of them are black or gray, like super dark. So, but they're
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terrifying and benevolent. Uh. They're associated with cemeteries, graveyards, and places
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where executions or particularly violent murders have taken place, and when they appear,
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they're said to be an omen of death. Okay, So, so you
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don't really want to run into a hell hound, John. And when I
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when I thought of a hell hand before, I was thinking it was like
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a phantom. Maybe not not solid three D form, you know, like
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flesh and bone. But but it sounds as though when people see them,
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they actually are in the three dimensions, the third dimension right here with us.
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They're not. They're not like ghost dogs. These are actual flesh and
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bone types of creatures. So yeah, So anyway, so you said you
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had seen some you knew of some stories of black dogs. This is the
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thing, and especially in the UK. Okay, I've seen Jeb in the
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chat. There's several people from the UK in the chat today. Hey,
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y'all, they probably know a little something about these black dogs. You know,
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I can't I remember reading stories about them when I was younger, but
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I don't remember them ever really posing a threat to the witness. And I
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don't know if it was like a like it was bad luck or a bad
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omen if you saw one or came in contact with one, like something bad
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was about to happen in your future. But I don't recall anyone ever being
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attacked by one. But you know, that was probably at least fifty years
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ago I was reading about those. Oh yeah, okay, Well, you
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know I always felt bad for black black dogs when you go to a shelter
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A lot of time in case, see, we got black cats, and
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black dogs and black cats a lot of times are associated with bad omens,
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right, and like bad luck. I think they're good luck. I think
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black cats are the most beautiful cats. Of course they're they're like familiars,
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you know. But I remember my mom has a really good friend who used
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to run the animal shelter in our town, and uh, and they would
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say that the black dogs would have a harder time getting adopted out, so
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they would put like bandanas on them and make them look cuter, you know,
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and to make them more adoptable because they got overlooked. My dog,
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op, he's a big black dog, and he's just a big lovable slopp
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because nothing evil about him at all. Yeah, well, I think it
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has to do something. I mean, I don't know if it's just something
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that is in the subconscious, maybe about it being a bad omen like a
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black cat is or what, or maybe maybe this becuse goes back in our
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genetics, like oh, there's something wrong with the you know, the hill
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hounds and them being black dogs. To this day, I don't like when
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a black cat runs in front of the course, you know. But then
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again, I don't know why that bothers me because I have qualms about Friday
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the thirteenth. In fact, I usually have a good day on Friday the
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thirteenth, soum one. The black cat thing gets to me, but it
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does. I don't like it, you know, always wonder what's gonna happen.
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Yes, oh my gosh, okay, oh my gosh. J J
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True Seeker, Oh no, that is scary, he says. Abandoned churches
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with abandoned cemeteries, you can probably conjure up giant black dogs using Ouiji boards
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on the tomb sounds. Now, don't be given the audience any ideas,
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Jay True Seeker. Okay, that's terrible. Don't do that, y'all.
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I don't. I mean, you can, but I don't. I do,
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I don't. I don't think that you should. Okay, but yeah,
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that's that's scary. Okay. So the earliest sighting, I believe either
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you or I had mentioned. The earliest sighting in literature or reported in writing
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basically goes back to eleven twenty seven a d. And people were beginning to
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report groups of hunters. But they weren't exactly earthly hunters. These hunters were
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black and large and loathly, and their hounds were all black with white eyes,
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and ugly. They rode with white eyes, and they were ugly beauties
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in the eye of the beholder, by the way. Okay, but they
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rode on black horses and on black bucks. This was seen in the very
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dear part of the town of Petersborough, and in all the woods from the
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same town of Stanford. Now this isn't out I guess it's in the UK.
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And the monks there heard blasts of the horns which they blew at night.
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Now this reminds me of something different. It's called the wild hunt.
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Okay. Are you familiar with the wild hunt? John? No, I
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haven't heard of this. Okay, let's see if I can find I think
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I have a picture of the wild hunt, and this is this is there's
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almost like a story of the wild hunt and all these different traditions, all
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these different cultures. So it kind of gives it a little bit of more
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mystery. I do I think I do have a picture. We had that
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and pull this up the wild Hunt. Okay, here it is. I
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have several pictures of the wild hunt, and it kind of reminds me a
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little bit of Game of Thrones a little bit too. But these are we
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go find wild hunt. Here we go. Okay. So among some of
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the different types of hell hounds are those that run with the wild hunt.
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According to Norse mythology, the wild hunt motif spans the ancient to the modern
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world, particularly in Northern Europe. It's alternately called the terrifying ride, the
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raging host, or as gardriya. And you don't want to be around to
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see this. Anybody who catches a glimpse of this is likely to get swept
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up by a rider, and if they're fortunate, they'll get dropped off miles
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and miles and miles down the road. Okay, you don't you know,
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all these guys coming after you from the sky. That sounds absolutely terrifying.
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Leaders of the hunt in some areas they say it's Odin, while other it's
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per Perchasta or Herne the Hunter. And in the Middle Ages it was even
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said that the hunt was led by King Arthur or Charlemagne. There's just in
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different areas it's led by different people, but it's usually the Lord of the
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Dead. His hellhounds were a little different sometimes that they always had hellhounds there,
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Okay, usually they were they were black. But this person, okay,
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when the app nud the Lord of the Dead, had white hellhounds with
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blood red ears, and they anytime if you saw them, they their presence
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meant imminent doom was coming. Now, was this a literal cloud full of
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ghosts and the dead and like the grim Reaper looking stuff here? Or was
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this like a storm, like a literal storm. It's it sounds terrifying.
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But different cultures talk about this wild hunt, okay, and uh, and
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I think yes, it is mostly in Europe. Okay, it is totally
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mostly in Europe. However, this was this goes way back John to that
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Well, if you're you know you were talking about it. Some believe it's
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odin. Well that's going to go back to the North Northman in the north,
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the Vikings, Scandinavia, and of course you know they probably brought their
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tails to Europe when they came down and rated. So oh yeah, well
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it's it's a little it's a little terrifying. I do not want to get
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swept up by it, because if you're if you're lucky, I mean,
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they usually will make you become a part of their hunt party, which means
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you're not going to be living in the three D reality anymore. They take
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your life, okay. Uh And then like I said, if you're lucky,
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they'll drop you off down the road somewhere. Okay, it's it's gonna
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be a hard fall though, so make you wonder too. It's a dimensional
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thing. If it happens and they come, you know, like in a
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storm, I would think, well, they're crossing over another plane of existence
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through a dimension, you know. So I think like when you're looking at
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the hellhounds, we're talking more of a spiritual type being than maybe encryptid like
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a dog man or something. If you catch where I'm going, I think
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a dog man's more of an earthbound thing and a hellhound's more of a dimensional
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thing. Okay, I think I think that's a good thing. You're looking
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for a difference, and that's just my opinion. So yeah, I think
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I think you're right on that one for sure. Now let's let's get into
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this three headed hellhound, okay, because this is I mean, that's a
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kind of a badass picture right there. I like that. I can see
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that being a tattoo on somebody, not me though probably not, but I'm
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just saying that's a cool vigure. Okay. So some said cultures say that
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hell han hounds either act as spirit guides or take the souls to their their
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spirit guide that takes the soul of a person to let's just say Hell,
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okay, take them to Hell. Or they're just guards of the underworld,
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guards of the underworld. The most famous is Cerebras, the three headed hound
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of Hades. That's I guess that's who we're looking at right now. Cerebras
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is that I think that's how you pronounce his name. He was one of
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the monstrous children of e Aquina. I can't pronounce these names. I'm terrible
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and type typhon and siblings of hydra and the chimera, which is interesting because
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we talk about chimeras a lot. Those three heads may not they may have
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been a more convenient way to depict them in art because some people said this
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dog had fifty heads, not just three, had fifty, and some had
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say he had one hundred heads, which is so weird. That'd be a
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big old dog having all those heads. Actually it could just be like a
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big body a lot of little, tiny heads. Okay, sorry, I
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know my imagination runs wild with this stuff. So well, you know,
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it's not there's a in focal or mythology religions, there's I mean, that's
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not an uncommon thread. I mean, look, you know, if you
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know the Bible, one of the one of the uh descriptions of I forgetive
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is so what type of angel but has four faces? You know, when
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you're trying to wrap your head around that, and you wonder, well,
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what did it mean? Four heads or poor faces or so fifty heads could
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translate to maybe twenty five sets of eyes, maybe not fifty full heads,
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who knows, you know, Like it's always like you said, it's in
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the eye of the beholder, and they're they're to describe what they're seeing.
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You know, fifteen hundred years ago, what they have to base it on
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on how to describe things is a lot different than what we have today.
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That's true. And speaking of what we have today, Scott has an interesting
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comment. I just seen a Scooby Doo cartoon about that dog. Okay,
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my son on the way to school this morning, was telling me about a
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cartoon that he saw, and for some reason, a lot of cartoons today
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involve hell in like it's almost I was like, why where did you see
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this cartoon? Kid? Okay, but he said that it's really it's like
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for kids, it's almost like that one about Oh my gosh, I can't
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remember what it is. It's got a lot of Masonic symbolism and stuff in
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it. I can't remember the name of these cartoons, but anyways, he
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said that there's a cartoon about hellhounds. It's about a hell hound and it
26:53
has to do with a people that are trying to make a vacation spot out
26:57
of Hell. They're trying to make get into a place that was like heaven,
27:00
and they had a hellhound that guarded the property. Okay, so my
27:04
my kid told me he had seen this thing, okay, and I was
27:08
like, don't watch that again, kid. But but that's but that's they're
27:12
they're putting this in cartoons today and stuff. So I just I just wanted
27:18
to point that out. Just wanted to point that out. Okay. So
27:23
speaking of other cultures too that have hellhounds. Uh. So, Cerebras is
27:29
not the only hellhound. Okay, it's known about ancient Egyptians had we whip,
27:37
will wet Okay, we will wet, a wolf god whose name means
27:41
the opener of ways. He was the one that guided souls on their path
27:45
through the afterlife, and it was it says he was eventually absorbed into a
27:49
Nubis and Osiris. Okay. The Aztecs had zolotole I think is how you
27:56
pronounced that? A dog or dog headed god who carried the son and the
28:00
human soul. There's Gamar, the Viking age dog no Norse mythology. Uh,
28:07
he's been who's connected to hell okay and uh. And he's also linked
28:14
to Finn Rear fin rear and and that's another dog in the underworld. Okay.
28:19
So we got the Aztecs, We've got the Egyptians, we've got the
28:23
Vikings, they all have a hellhound in their in their mythology that goes back.
28:30
So, uh, it's it's not just in Europe. Now, in
28:34
Europe you mentioned we mentioned the black dogs and uh, and there was a
28:37
very famous black dog name black Shuck. Have you looked into black Shuck?
28:45
And are you familiar with that one? John? This is the first Okay,
28:51
I'm going to see. I think I may have a picture to pull
28:52
up here. I mean, black Shuck is a pretty popular, pretty popular
28:57
dog, Okay, black dog. From there here he is on top of
29:00
a light post or something. It's like it on the top of a weather
29:04
vein. Okay. And when I was looking at this, it really reminded
29:10
me a lot of another beast that I've looked into, and that's the Beast
29:14
of Jev Houdan. Now, this was the Beast of Jev Houdan was actually
29:18
from let's see, let me get my notes on that, because I did
29:22
a show on the Bisa Jabudan a long time ago and had been I had
29:26
remote viewed that as a matter of fact, So the best of jab Houdan
29:30
between seventeen sixty four and seventeen sixty seven, a creature ravaged the rural region
29:37
of Javad javadon France. Over one hundred women and men and some people say
29:44
like three hundred or more and children fell victim to the beast of jab Houdan.
29:49
They said that it was like a wolf, but it was not a
29:53
wolf. Okay, it looked like wolf. Some people said that it walked
29:56
on two hind legs at times. I think what we the conclusion we came
30:03
to with the data was that it might have been a hyena, a gigantic
30:07
hyena, or it was a hyena type dog man. And for all my
30:12
dog man enthusiasts y'all made y'all may be familiar with this hyena type dog man.
30:19
Uh, this is a I'm showing right now on the screen for people
30:22
who are listening on podcasts. I'm showing a picture on the screen of the
30:26
different types of dogmen and there's one that is called the canine variant too,
30:30
and it looks like a hyena. Now, hyenas are not dogs, Okay,
30:34
They're actually more related to a cat, I think. But this is
30:38
a a hyena type and we came to the conclusion that it could have been
30:42
a hyena type dog man. That was the beast of Javodon, but it
30:45
could have also just been a gigantic hyena. Right, not to say it's
30:51
not a hellhound. This this was an actual animal that lived and breathed and
30:56
it unalived a lot of people, particularly children and women. So not a
31:03
fun time to be alive during that period at of French rural history. You
31:10
don't make a good would have made a good Internet search prior to this,
31:15
I didn't think about it would be looking up pub names in pub signs in
31:19
England that had to do with a black dog or a hell hound or a
31:25
black hound. Have you ever? Have you ever looked at pub signs in
31:30
England? Have you ever? I have not been to England yet, Oh
31:34
my goodness, while I was there, I was there eighty to eighty three.
31:37
You would not believe the artwork and the skill that goes into these signs
31:41
on these pubs. And they'll have a name, and most pubs will have
31:47
just these beautifully painted signs, you know, depicting you know where, whether
31:52
it's the red lion or the black hound or the you know, the duck
31:56
and feather or whatever. But they're just gorgeous and I would you know,
32:00
I think that would be interesting to look at paranormal themed pub signs in England.
32:07
See what you came up with. Okay, well, I love a
32:09
good pub and I love a good brew. Okay, I've got to love
32:14
a good pint. Okay, I played rugby just like you did. We
32:16
love a good pint, right there, you go. Okay, Oh my
32:21
gosh, yeah, I bet so. We have a brown Dog deli okay
32:24
where I grew up. It's not a black dog though, and that that's
32:29
something that's out of South Carolina, so I don't think there's a connection.
32:34
But it's a pub and they got when you read in the Fall, you'll
32:37
see a bar in there mentioned in Tucson called Bob Dobbs. That was a
32:42
rugby bar we went to back when I was playing. So you'll you'll get
32:45
a kick out of that. For I love that. Yes, I love
32:51
me. Like I said, we're familiar with John. You and I.
32:53
We both have a lot in common. Okay, bigfoot in rugby and beer.
32:58
Okay, how'd you get I know? I know? Right? Okay,
33:02
Well, let's get to black Shuck. Let's go back to Blackshuck a
33:05
little bit, because Blackshuck is a really cool hell hound, an alleged hell
33:10
hand and the most famous, most famous hello hound in Britain is black Shuck.
33:16
They say he's a bar guest, the bar guest. It sounds like
33:20
a bar guest, so I guess that's how you pronounce it, which is
33:22
a monstrous dog that only comes out at night, and he's easily recognizable because
33:28
he only has one eye. Now I can't tell if he's like a Cyclops
33:34
dog or if he just has one eye on one side of his face.
33:37
So if anybody in the chat knows, y'all, y'all throw it in the
33:39
chat, okay, because I didn't. I don't think he's a Cyclops.
33:44
But it says he had one eye and he has a red eye. So
33:47
around fifteen seventy seven, that's a long time ago. John black Shuck broke
33:53
down the doors of two churches, the Holy Trinity Church in Saint Mary's Church,
34:00
and he ran through the congregations that were gathered there. During the first
34:05
attack, which led to the collapse of the church's steeple, he reportedly unalived
34:09
a man and a boy, and the second attack, he made a bee
34:13
line through the crowd, heading for two people. Who knelt in prayer.
34:17
They were unalived before they knew what hit them. The sightings have continued for
34:22
a long time. In eighteen ninety three, a man was driving a car
34:27
along a lane in Norfolk, a black black lane and Norfolk black dog okay,
34:32
and this written wrong. Okay, the driver I guess he ran out
34:38
in front of a car okay, and the driver refused to swerve for him,
34:44
and they ended up hitting him the car when they hit the dog,
34:46
the car burst into flames and the dog, the dog was never seen again,
34:52
but the driver did pass away over that. But that was in eighteen
34:55
ninety three, so this was like from fifteen seventy, so, I mean,
34:58
this was for five hundred they've had these black dog sightings and they say
35:04
it's black Shuck, but it's like over and over, like there's no way
35:07
black Shuck could live for that long unless he was immortal, right, unless
35:10
he was a hell hound. Right. So in twenty fourteen, there were
35:16
some archaeologists who found a dog, okay, the bones of a dog,
35:21
and they were saying that it was seven feet tall if it were to stand
35:24
on two legs. And since one eighty dever is in the chat she says
35:30
it's one eight. Oh my gosh, that's yeah, that's a long time.
35:35
That's thousands of years there. Okay. So in twenty fourteen, the
35:40
legendary devil dog who terrorized sixteenth century East Anglia with uh, they said that
35:47
they found they uncovered the remains of a dog. Now I think that it
35:52
was debunk as being a Great Dane. Okay, I think it was.
35:54
But this was the leg made the news. At least that's what some people
35:59
say. That it actually ended up being. Ma Wanna says dire wolves bones
36:04
probably. Yeah. I read that this this skeleton they found that was like
36:08
seven feet from end to end if it were to stand up, it ended
36:13
up being a Great Dane, and someone who just loved their dog buried it
36:19
very delicately and intricately, give it a proper burial. But see, the
36:23
people who found it thought, well, this has to be black shuck.
36:27
It must be black chuck. Okay, so yeah, I mean I would
36:34
you know, I've buried a dog or two. They weren't that big though,
36:37
they were not that big. Not that big. That's a big dog.
36:42
I mean, you just don't see dogs a Great Dane or a mast
36:45
m is a mask step larger than a great Dane. They're about the same
36:51
size. Yeah, they're about the same size. They are. Now here's
36:55
the thing. Coming from a field researchers standpoint, We have never. I
37:01
have never. My team is never because they would have told me we've never
37:05
come across the bones of a dog man or a werewolf or a sasquatch.
37:10
Okay, but not to say that, I mean because I've seen them.
37:15
I've seen bigfoots okay, But like where where are the bones? Where the
37:19
bones go? And another thing is like when people ask me that, I
37:22
say, well, if you go to the body farm, it's safer,
37:25
insince and you go to learn about decomposing corpses and bodies. Those bones get
37:31
scattered around and they get eaten by predators or scavengers. I guess my yard.
37:38
My dog brings them in from the woods. Yeah, oh yeah,
37:44
yeah. Nothing like getting a femur brought up to your back door, not
37:47
knowing what it came from when you talked about it. You haven't found bones
37:51
or seen bones. Do you remember what was in a movie Harry N.
37:57
Henderson's came back out years ago, And remember when somebody was saying how they
38:00
didn't believe in Bigfoot, and the guy said, he goes, well,
38:05
I've never seen one. Guy says, have you ever seen a baby pigeon?
38:08
And he goes, well, well, I'm sure. Well you know
38:12
what, I still haven't seen a baby pigeon. I always think about that.
38:15
If I go into the city and I see pigeons, I'm like,
38:17
where are the babies? Yeah, somewhere. Just because we don't see it
38:24
doesn't mean it's not there. That's the point. I guess. It's like,
38:28
well, we don't we don't see it, but doesn't mean it's not
38:30
there at all. And we have Barry Littleton in the chat. Hey,
38:31
Barry, that's a wa Heila, very cool. Yes, Barry has done
38:37
a video on that. You guys go check out Barry's video after the show
38:40
today and and it's he says, reported to there aren't black, but they're
38:45
reported to look like timber wolves that are bigger than people. Okay, Now
38:50
wolves are huge, regular wolves are gigantic. John No, scarily big.
38:57
Okay. I saidyone on the road in the mountains here step out in front
39:00
of my car about four years ago, and I'd never seen one. I've
39:04
seen the coyotes, and I didn't realize there was. But this guy came
39:07
out and I stopped, and you know, the coyotes are skittish, they'll
39:10
just run, run, run. This guy just trotted out and the road
39:14
stopped, looked at me, and just slowly trotted away. He was in
39:19
no hurry. And I was like, yeah, there's a difference. There's
39:22
a huge difference. He was massive. I couldn't believe how big he was.
39:27
Oh yeah, so, I mean it's almost we hear about dog man.
39:31
Dog men are really big like that too, So I had to do
39:36
I mean, that could have been a dog man. John could have just
39:40
then you never know. But there's a whole there's a whole lot of things
39:45
that get misidentified to and you know, we I could get into the story
39:50
about the couple who hit a werewolf down on the south the south part of
39:54
the county that I live in. Is they swore they had hit a were
39:57
wolf, they said, because it got up and ran off on two legs.
40:00
Okay, so yeah, but it looked like a wolf. It like
40:05
a wolf, but then it got up. It's always getting up on those
40:07
two hind legs. That's the telltale sign, right, there now the bar
40:12
guess what I was getting into just a little bit. Just then it says
40:15
that it was. It's the sign of a of a bad omen, right,
40:21
a bad omen. Anyone who gets the slightest glimpse of this hellhound has
40:27
months to live, months, while anyone who got a super good long like
40:34
that's if you get a glimpse, if you get like a long layer at
40:37
it, like a long stare at it, you will pass away within days.
40:42
They say, so wow, I mean that would make you not want
40:45
to look at these things right when to ever see one? Yes, okay,
40:52
Hobveer is in the chat. Hey, Howveyer? We krypt it?
40:55
Five five nine. Have you heard of any accounts of hellhounds on two legs
41:00
wearing a cloak that are seen near a cemetery? I have never heard of
41:04
one wearing a cloak before. I don't. I don't recall ever here one
41:07
wearing a cloak. Now we do hear about them sometimes wearing like dog men
41:12
wearing articles of clothing, which makes you kind of think, well, maybe
41:15
that's a werewolf. Okay, like a human that had transformed like a skin
41:19
walker some outthres is all kind of combined I think, Okay, they're all
41:23
connected, not combined, but connected in some way. So, and that
41:30
brings us to another point is that the hell hounds are generally seen at burial
41:37
mounds, buried as cemeteries, places where people have been unalived, or like
41:44
a battle ground. And we talk about these Civil war battlefields here in the
41:46
South. I talk about them all the time, and how we get a
41:51
lot of crypted reports from those areas where the blood was shed, Okay,
41:54
where the battles took place, where all of that energy is stored, the
42:00
trauma, the sadness. It's like a breeding ground for for cryptids and not
42:07
not the good kind of crew. I'm not saying cryptis are good or bad,
42:10
but it's one's it or out there eating dead corpses and stuff. Not
42:15
the corpses are alive unless there's Yeah, they're out there like old green eyes.
42:20
So I don't know, what do you think about all that, John,
42:25
Uh, I don't know. I would think if they're wearing a cloak
42:31
or wearing any kind of clothing, I don't know that that just parkens back
42:38
to like you said, the old wolf man wear wolf tails from from Europe.
42:46
I don't know. I don't know what to think about a cloak wearing
42:50
dog man or a hell hound. Or again though, if it's a hell
42:53
hound, if it's a spiritual being, you know, sky's the limit probably
43:00
on what it what it can do, what it can manifest or mm hmm,
43:06
that's right, that's right. Now we also have to I was reading,
43:10
sorry I spit it out just so, I was reading about the the
43:15
hellhounds being either solitary or impacts, okay, And so this is something that
43:20
we hear about with dog men, and Hobvier has had his own experiences with
43:23
dogmen up close and personal. As a matter of fact, a lot of
43:29
times you hear that they're just there's just one of them, Okay, there's
43:31
just one. But then when you if you hear about them, people seeing
43:35
them potentially hunting their impacts just like these hell hounds, which leads people what
43:39
leads me to think, well, could dog men be hellhounds and hellhounds be
43:44
dogmen? Okay, it could be, even though we're we are trying to
43:47
see the differences in them. But I think there's more similarities than there are
43:52
differences. It says that in the British countryside and in ancient mythology. You
44:00
mostly hear about them being lone dogs, Okay, but there's an occasional telle
44:06
of packs of hell hounds. Now that's not a pack that I want to
44:09
stumble across, especially by myself late at night at all. But they they
44:19
actually are super violent. They unlive people indiscriminately. And yeah, you just
44:25
don't want to stumble across these things ever, which sounds like it could be
44:30
dogmen as well. Okay, I'm talking about hellhounds, but we could also
44:35
be talking about dog man too. Now I have a picture of something because
44:38
I'm thinking about now with the with the cemeteries, okay, and hobby ER's
44:44
comment here, let me take this down. So I was contacted about two
44:47
weeks ago by a very nice lady who may be coming on my show soon.
44:52
I hope. I need to get back in touch with her. But
44:54
she is the person who owns the video of this dog man. Uh.
45:02
Well, it's an alleged dog man digging through a cemetery. I believe that's
45:07
in Ohio. I've seen years ago, yes, and uh, and so
45:13
it it's a really crazy looking video. Okay, it's uh, it's actually
45:17
a little unnerving and this is what this being was digging right here. It
45:23
was digging a hole in a cemetery right there by a mauslem. And it
45:28
was two young ladies who were driving through the cemetery and they were on their
45:31
dinner break. There's so she said. It was their suffer break. Hey,
45:35
their dinner break, uh, while they were working. And they they
45:38
have a video. It's just on one of the one of the girls had
45:40
it on her cell phone and uh, and she told me they thought it
45:44
was a human, like a dirty woman. That's what they said, like
45:46
a dirty human like digging. I mean because when you watch the video,
45:51
you can find this video on the North American dog Man Project dot com I
45:54
think is their website. Go to the look up the North American dog Man
45:58
Project and uh and they have the I don't know if they have the video
46:00
there, but they have still photos. Okay, I have. She sent
46:04
me the video of this. It is fascinating, Okay because it's in a
46:10
cemetery. Okay. This is where we hear about dog men, okay,
46:15
being where wolves. We hear about them being seen at Indian burial mounds,
46:22
Okay, digging into Indian burial mounds sometimes we hear them being at graveyards and
46:25
at cemeteries. No, I have a Chalktaw cemetery that borders my property.
46:34
My property borders a little chalk Taw church ground too, and now I have
46:39
to keep a closer eye on the cemetery. But I noticed the other day
46:44
went for a walk and about a half mile down the road, somebody has
46:47
taking the flowers, the plastic flowers from the graves that cemetery, and they
46:52
displayed them on the road, you know, like people will do, like
46:57
they'll say a monument when somebody's killed in a autoreck or something. And nobody's
47:01
died on the road within a half month. You can't get going. It's
47:05
a dirt road. You can't go that fast anyway. But I was wondering
47:07
what that meant. I wondered who would be doing that and why, you
47:13
know, like I don't even go over that cemetery, not out of fear
47:16
what's in the cemetery, just out of respect for the Chartile families. I'm
47:21
not going to go walk around and look in the cemetery. You know their
47:24
loved ones are there. And but I was I was struck by that.
47:29
I was trying to hear who would be doing that, and I would think
47:31
they would anger people, you know, so, yeah, they must be
47:37
doing it at night, not in broad daylight. I would think, I
47:42
don't know, I just don't know why anybody would go mess with somebody's graves.
47:45
Okay, Well, well I had a conversation with the lady who who
47:50
I was talking with, who has this video, and she said that.
47:53
Okay, so I was looking at this video and I'll put the picture back
47:57
up as one of the still shots from it. I was thinking it was
48:00
digging up a corpse. Okay, because when you see that and you see
48:05
something digging, yeah, it's trying to get it a body. It's hungry
48:09
or something. It smells death potentially. Well, she had a whole different
48:15
take on that, and uh and I can't wait to have her on the
48:19
show and day she's She was actually saying that she thinks that it was mimicking
48:23
what humans do and burying their dead. She thinks potentially it had made maybe
48:29
it had a dead child and it was trying to marry it. I thought,
48:32
you know, it's interesting. You'll see how dogs when their owner passes
48:37
away, they will know where that that person's body is and it'll lay it
48:42
the grave or you know, I've seen a lot of videos of that.
48:47
Maybe they have a sense or smell or you know, who knows. I
48:51
don't what if it's okay, what if this thing is say, it's not
48:55
a dog man or a hell and it is a weird one. It is
49:00
human and it's related to whoever's grave that was. I don't know. I'm
49:06
just throwing out ideas, just brainstorming, but yeah, that's that's pretty interesting.
49:12
The fact that it was out in broad daylight's pretty interesting. And I
49:15
remember seeing that video years ago, and at the time, I think they
49:21
were saying it was possibly a sasquatch and I was wondering, why would why
49:24
would sasquatch be digging up a grave? But it makes more sense to be
49:29
something like a dog man or some canine type deal. Yeah, stupid woolf
49:35
Hounds of the Baskerville. That that's what I was talking about earlier, as
49:39
far as the hell Hounds and stuff. He's probably seen that old movie.
49:44
Oh yeah, yeah, I was. I was a little behind on the
49:46
comments. So that was that was back when you were talking about it.
49:50
I'm all right, I'm just out pulling it up. I get a little
49:55
I get a little behind because I get I get to talking, and and
50:00
this chat moves so fast it's hard to keep up sometimes. But but I'm
50:04
over here doing I'm doing it. I'm doing it. We're getting it done.
50:07
We're getting her done today. Yeah, somebody in the chat let me.
50:10
I was gonna try to find this comment. I'm so sorry I pulled
50:14
it up while ago. But they were asking, is the dog man's head
50:16
just gigantic in its body smaller as the whole dagum thing huge? I think
50:21
the whole dagum thing is huge, Okay, I do. I was gonna
50:25
say, I was gonna pull up a picture of old shuck, the black
50:29
black shuck, okay, and uh and this, and I'm gonna read this
50:32
article okay, because this is from fifteen seventy seven. I had to think
50:37
that. I see what. My door just came open. We mentioned the
50:47
Oh my gosh, y'all, we're having paranormal activity live on air today.
50:54
Oh my gosh, live on air. Oh that was fun. You saw
50:59
it here? I was looking down, so no, I did not see
51:04
that. But hey, we'll go back and watch that. Monica come home
51:07
early from work or something. But the door, Oh my gosh. Okay,
51:12
well let's let's hope it happens again. That's kind of fun. Okay.
51:19
No, I usually have orbs that fly in front of my face and
51:22
between me and the camera. So okay, So this is this is the
51:28
This is the black black Shuck from fifteen seventy seven. This is I guess
51:31
this was in like there. I want to say, a newspaper. I
51:35
don't know if they have newspapers. It was on their scroll from back then.
51:39
It says a terrible wonder wrought very late in the in the parent I
51:45
can't see the church some Okay, maybe I shouldn't read this, okay,
51:49
because it's in old English. I can't even read it because my eyes are
51:52
bad. Okay, but this this is the article. I would have read
51:55
it for you if I could have seen it. But yes, and this
52:00
is in the middle. I mean, people have always there's always been these
52:02
stories of dogs, like gigantic dogs, attacking people. Uh my goodness.
52:08
We've talked about the old World maps on this show plenty of times, John,
52:14
where they actually had dog headed men on those maps. I think we
52:17
might have talked about that when we talked about Antarctica that day. Yeah,
52:21
yeah, so they definitely. This is something that's been in history for a
52:28
long time. And uh and to this day we're getting dog man reports.
52:32
Okay, I know this is your least favorite cryptid. It's one of my
52:36
favorite cryptis though. Okay, so one of my favorites because I have not
52:38
found one yet. I have not seen one with my own eyes, and
52:42
I'd love to see one from far away, from far away. Yeah,
52:47
the place them, Yeah, i'd like to see them. I would definitely
52:54
like see when the place that I was researching this past weekend where we just
52:58
went for a day trip down to the troop Herd Corrinor. They are known.
53:01
That area is known for dogman reports and it's near an army base,
53:07
right, Fort Minning is down there in Columbus. So what what is the
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connection, John, You're you're a retired Air Force all right, I don't
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know. Yeah, that's that's army. That's I think that's an airborne school
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and I think the Ranger School may be there. I'm not sure, but
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yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna comment, you know, I'm sure nothing
53:35
but sound more ridiculous and an air Force commenting on the army, so I
53:38
just won't. We'll speaking of the army too. I had just come across
53:45
a picture from Fort Stewart, which is down in South Georgia, which is
53:51
a rugby tournament there. I played rugby there, I sure did. I
53:53
played. You said you played? I did too, in nineteen maybe four,
54:00
okay, but but yeah, we wed. I played rugby down there
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too. Okay, not not at Fort Stewart, but I was by there
54:07
because I went to George. I went to Georgia Southern University, all right,
54:10
But yeah, yeah, there was a picture that just came out of
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what looks like it didn't just come out, but it looks like a big
54:19
UFO or some kind of light anomaly over the base at Fort Stewart. Really
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yeah, I'll see if I can find it and post it on my social
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media today today for everybody to see. But a lot of a lot of
54:32
strange anomalist stuff happens down there. A lot of big foot sightings down there
54:37
near Fort Stewart, near Fort Benning. We get we get reports a lot
54:42
of of mostly Sasquatch and dog man down there. So no hellhounds though,
54:46
no hellhound. I got an Army. I've got an army base big Foot
54:52
story. I'll have to tell you sometimes it's short one, but I thought
54:54
it was kind of funny. Yeah, it's crypted. Oh my gosh.
55:00
The wo Wolf, the wo Wolf, the Woo wolves from space out radio.
55:05
Thank you Neil. We got Neil in the in the chat today.
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Neil actually goes to castles all over the UK and uh and does I think
55:15
it's the UK right now? And uh and goes and visits castles. I
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was just messaging today about how the energy has to be there. I wonder
55:22
if there's a lot of dog man reports around those areas, uh, considering
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all the history of the land and everything, battles that have taken place,
55:31
all the bloodshed on the ground, just like we have the Civil War battlefields
55:36
here, and who's to say, like our history is not what we're told,
55:38
so there's no telling what else happened on the ground here. It's some
55:44
of these areas, So I don't know, it's food for thought. Like
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our friend Barry says, who's in the chat, Heybury? So yeah,
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let's see. I'm trying to figure out if I've covered everything so far,
55:58
Okay that I wanted to talk about today with the Hellhounds versus dog Man.
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If the Hellhounds had to fight dog Man, who do you think would win
56:04
John in a battle water I'm going to say, since I know very little
56:08
of that either, but I'm going to say, based on my theory that
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the hellhounds a spiritual thing in the dog Man's a physical thing, I would
56:19
give the edge to the hell hound because it's I don't know, it's got
56:24
more mojo going on in my books. So what would you say? Okay,
56:30
Well, I think dog men are supernatural too. I think some of
56:34
them are. I mean, if they're coming and going through portals. Some
56:36
people say they come through portals and trees. I have a friend who's said
56:43
that his uncle potentially turned into a dog man, okay, or a werewolf.
56:47
I guess you could call it a werewolf, and there may have been
56:51
a little black magic involved that, Okay. But he went behind a tree
56:54
and he came out the other side of a gigantic wolf and went and ran
57:00
into the woods. So I think there's a supernatural element to dog Man and
57:02
wear wolves and stuff. So I don't know, you know, we are
57:06
in a spiritual battle. I do believe Okay, we're in a spiritual battle.
57:12
Yeah, I agree, Castle Dude, where in the UK? Are
57:15
you just curious? I was there for three years in Oxfordshire, if you
57:21
if you can hear me if he's still there. So yeah, I'm just
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one does his uh where he does his uh research at from where he lives.
57:31
Oh, he's got a can. He's got a channel, thank you,
57:34
GARYL. Garyl's in the chat. Uh he's got a YouTube channel.
57:37
So go to go to his YouTube channel. I'll send you a link.
57:42
I'll get you a link after the show. Okay, and and you can
57:45
you can follow him on all his adventures there. H So yeah, Marie
57:49
says the dog Man would win. Okay, I think I think dog Man
57:52
would win in a physical battle dog Man. Okay, my bets on dog
57:58
Man. But spiritually the hell Hounds. I don't know anything that guards the
58:02
gates of hell. You're not getting past it. Okay, there you go.
58:07
I know, right if it's a three headed dog like cerebrals the hellhound
58:14
with drag dog Man and throw him in the pit. So but oh my
58:20
gosh, yeah, I don't know. I don't I don't know what all
58:22
the everybody in the chat today thinks about who would win. I think I
58:24
think dog Man's got it so far. Controversy, Yeah, yeah, it's
58:35
it's that would be. That would be a fierce battle. Though. Uh,
58:37
where did the first dog man originate from? That's a good question,
58:40
prophet, I have no want to tell you. John's done his research on
58:46
this, and this is made made upset a few dog men folks. Actually,
58:52
the first allegend encounter, they're kind of based out of Michigan, the
58:57
whole story, but they're person legend counter was eighteen eighty seven in Westford County
59:02
by two lumberjacks who said they saw a seven foot dog like creature walking on
59:08
two legs. Then you didn't hear about it anymore until nineteen thirty seven.
59:14
In Paris, Michigan, a man named Robert Fortney was attacked by five wild
59:17
dogs, one of which he claimed walked up right on two legs, and
59:22
then he goes quiet again. And then there was similar preachers reported in I
59:30
don't know if I'm pronouncing this right, a Legion County in nineteen fifty,
59:34
then again in nineteen sixty seven in Manistee, Michigan, and Cross Village,
59:38
Michigan, so there were reports of two different areas in nineteen sixty seven.
59:45
Now here's what I thought was interesting, and I'm just gonna put this out
59:47
there. In nineteen eighty seven, a radio disc jockey by the name of
59:57
Stephen Cook and I gave you li to the Song, played a song as
1:00:01
an April Fool's joke, as an April fools prank, called the Legend,
1:00:07
and it was about a dog like creature. Well after this played, people
1:00:12
thought it was based on true stories, and then all of a sudden,
1:00:14
these dog man reports started coming in and dog Man kind of took off.
1:00:17
And like I said, I'm not poo pooing on a dog man people.
1:00:22
I've always kind of had an ear for the paranormal. I've never you know,
1:00:27
I was never an expert. I'm not an expert on any of it,
1:00:30
but I did always pay attention, and you know, the stories and
1:00:32
stuff interest me. But I swear I never heard of dog Man until twenty
1:00:38
fifteen, when I was in a full blown research on sasquatch from my novel.
1:00:45
I started bumping into this dog Man stuff and it really wasn't much,
1:00:50
and then it just exploded. It seemed like after about twenty seventeen, twenty
1:00:53
eighteen, it just became huge, this huge, big thing. So but
1:01:01
I will admit I'm pretty I'm pretty ignorant on the whole subject. I haven't
1:01:06
paid much attention to it. But it doesn't go I mean, it doesn't
1:01:12
have the history or the and less you count werewolf stories or wolfman stories,
1:01:16
which may be the same thing. It doesn't have the history of say sasquat
1:01:21
UFO's hauntings, you know, demonic activity, those kind of things, locked
1:01:29
nest. You know, it just doesn't have that that prehistory before modern times
1:01:36
like these other subjects do. And that's all I'm gonna say about it.
1:01:39
Yeah, well, the modern day dog man. Yeah, you know,
1:01:43
I get we get so many reports of these, and you know the money
1:01:45
the dog man may be the old time werewolf. It may be, it
1:01:50
may be similar. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It
1:01:53
could be. Well, if these old world maps are real, and I
1:01:57
think that they are, that show dragon and Blimmy's and uh and the dog
1:02:04
headed men, I mean tribes and communities of dog headed men right to go
1:02:08
way back, I mean potentially from the beginning of time. Now, I
1:02:15
just saw that comment who Prophet Pree says, I guess they they're lad made.
1:02:23
You know, that's a possibility too, it is, I mean,
1:02:28
anything's possible anymore because people are gonna meet with everything they can. Oh my
1:02:32
god, this is this is something I've never heard before. Michael. That's
1:02:37
awesome, Michael says. They also say dog man Roman soldiers guarded Jesus on
1:02:40
the cross. Okay, I've never heard that. That would be really cool
1:02:45
though. If they did, man, that would be something crazy. Why
1:02:50
would they they're trying to kill him. Well, maybe it was to just
1:02:54
to let him. I don't know, there's no talent, but that's kind
1:02:58
of cool. Well, we do hear about okay, so we do hear
1:03:00
about dog men being in the military. I have done shows on it.
1:03:06
Our government utilizing them as soldiers modern day okay, and you know Vietnam War,
1:03:13
they're sending wear wolves down into the into the tunnels, right, So,
1:03:17
uh, it's not super far fetched. Okay, it's really not,
1:03:22
especially if there is that dog man breeding program in the crypto breeding program.
1:03:25
So yeah, this this absolutely to keep people from taking them off the cross
1:03:31
and from taking parts of him as well. Oof man. Well that that
1:03:37
would make sense. So it's that's another rabbit hole. Man, Maybe we
1:03:40
should do a show on that one day. You know, this is one
1:03:43
of the most requested remote viewing targets that I've ever gotten, is seeing Jesus
1:03:49
on the cross, being Jesus Jesus's crucifixion, and I have not done that.
1:03:54
I have not remote viewed that. It's not a target I think that
1:03:59
would be. I think it might end up being super controversial. Actually I
1:04:03
don't know, but yeah, super controversial. So I haven't done it.
1:04:08
But now I'm intrigued with the whole dog man, the whole dog soldiers guarding
1:04:12
him. So I don't know. Man, I tell you what. Our
1:04:15
rabbit holes turn into portal holes, okay, portals. Uh, they always
1:04:21
do. Man, this is this is always a good time, super good
1:04:25
time. John. We've come to the end of the hour today and uh,
1:04:30
and I want you to tell the audience about your books and uh and
1:04:33
where they can find you. Okay, Well, I've had I have two
1:04:39
completed series, as Jessica mentioned earlier, Relics, which it starts out in
1:04:44
the first book. You think it's a big book foot story, but it
1:04:46
goes even deeper. Three books, Uh, the Ghosts or shadow Chaser series.
1:04:54
It's kind of a young adult, but adult readers love these books too.
1:04:58
There's three of those, and my first book in a news series and
1:05:01
The Fall is out. And you can find all my books at relicsbook dot
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1:05:35
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1:05:40
And most of the people read my books like them. I get. I
1:05:45
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1:06:14
Let me pull that back up I was just like, at we're still getting
1:06:15
more comments in the chat, some amazing comments actually, and thank you guys.
1:06:20
It's always it's always a good time. Yes, we shouldn't worry about
1:06:25
offending people, absolutely, I know, but you know, I'm still I'm
1:06:28
also very diplomatic about what I do. And I maybe maybe if we can
1:06:32
talk about that and do that kind of stuff on my patreon when it comes
1:06:35
down to something like a target that would be Jesus on the Cross, Okay,
1:06:40
like that that would probably go to my patreon and uh because yeah,
1:06:44
I just I don't know. It just depends. It just depends. But
1:06:45
we'll see. I don't know. I try to stay away from contract.
1:06:49
I work in politics, y'all. Okay, that's something that most people don't
1:06:54
know about me. I worked in politics my entire life. Okay, my
1:06:58
entire adult life. Now I'm talking about Bigfoot. What a difference, right,
1:07:03
Bigfoot's way more fun than working in politics, so uh so, yeah,
1:07:09
I know. I try to stay away from the controversy. Okay,
1:07:11
I try to do. I try to stay away from the drama in the
1:07:14
controversy. But but yeah, interesting stuff. John, Thank you so so
1:07:18
much for being here. Today. It is always a pleasure. And I
1:07:24
got to tell you that Disigan and Diegoggle show that you and I did together
1:07:28
is the highest watch show on my channel. Okay, so thank you.
1:07:32
Check it out again. That one went by in a blur. You know.
1:07:35
It's funny. I can usually remember our shows, but that one was
1:07:39
a blur. Maybe that's why. Thanks so much for having me. It's
1:07:45
always a pleasure to be on your show. I appreciate it. Thank you.
1:07:49
I love having you here. Yes, Roger Bigfoot for president, y'all.
1:07:53
He's the he's the candidate we can all believe in. Okay, So
1:07:58
and right now we need one of those okay. So yes, all right,
1:08:01
y'all. Well, thank everybody. I want to thank all y'all for
1:08:03
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that show up later today and yeah, and then I'll be back this weekend
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1:08:46
All right, John, we'll have a wonderful, wonderful day. Please come
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1:09:05
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