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Speaker 1: Minnesota somehow always in the spotlight. I just saw a
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Speaker 1: soundbite from Ilhan Omar, who was talking about how important
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Speaker 1: the Somali community is, how the Somali community is making
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Speaker 1: America better. And every day, it seems, or every other day,
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Speaker 1: we're hearing about some sort of Somali violence happening in Minnesota.
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Speaker 1: What's going on with that? It's like some sort of
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Speaker 1: world of completely different perspectives. I got Dustin Greggie on
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Speaker 1: right now. He is ColinMizTownhall.com, great friend of mine. We
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Speaker 1: are SWAT brothers. We were both SWATed last year. We
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Speaker 1: still don't know who did it. Dustin, good to see you.
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Speaker 1: How you doing, brother?
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Speaker 2: Good to see you, brother. Really happy to be here again, Joe.
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Speaker 2: Always love it.
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Speaker 1: Did I frame it right? You've got one, like probably
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Speaker 1: a smaller than half of Minnesota, but a good loud
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Speaker 1: minority of Minnesotans that seem to think Somalians coming to
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Speaker 1: Minnesota are enhancing life in Minnesota. Don't worry about the
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Speaker 1: gang violence. Don't worry about the guy who wanted to
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Speaker 1: kill 30 to 60 people at the mall. But Somalians
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Speaker 1: are really enhancing life in Minnesota. It seems like it's
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Speaker 1: coming to a head in that state. Fill me in
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Speaker 1: on what you know from your vantage point.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I mean, really, in all honesty, Joe, like
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Speaker 2: because I am hearing from Republicans that are going into
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Speaker 2: these big flip districts. I mean, millions of dollars invested
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Speaker 2: in these state seats where that's just the state legislature.
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Speaker 2: And they're going door to door and they're knocking on
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Speaker 2: Democrat doors, Joe. And people are fed up with the
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Speaker 2: Somali violence, the Somali fraud. There will be Democrats straight
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Speaker 2: up like, yeah, I have never voted Republican in my life,
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Speaker 2: but I'm going to vote split ticket this year. And
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Speaker 2: they'll even go through. They're like, I'm done with Keith Ellison.
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Speaker 2: I'm done with Peggy Flanagan. And there's going to be
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Speaker 2: Democrats in the state, Joe. They're going to vote that
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Speaker 2: way when it comes time in November. But yeah, like
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Speaker 2: the people that are defying the Somalis right now, I mean,
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Speaker 2: just being blunt, these are the far leftists that are
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Speaker 2: never going to change their minds again. These are the
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Speaker 2: people that helped bring them to the state and also
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Speaker 2: just help them continue to allow this stuff to happen.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Mary Moriarty, I'll bring up as an example here,
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Speaker 2: a county prosecutor in Hennepin County, which is Minneapolis, basically.
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Speaker 2: She actually, at the beginning of the year, I think
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Speaker 2: in January, came out with a big video, did a
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Speaker 2: big statement, made a big hoorah about it, that there's
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Speaker 2: no roving Somali gains in Minnesota. And if you say that,
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Speaker 2: it's hateful. Well, now fast forward to today. We literally
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Speaker 2: have law enforcement from like eight different agencies collectively coming
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Speaker 2: together saying, how we need to very specifically come together
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Speaker 2: and combat Somali gang violence with a regional task force,
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Speaker 2: a task force that once did exist just for regular gangs,
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Speaker 2: but they have to bring it back now specifically to
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Speaker 2: address Somali gang violence happening right now in Minnesota.
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Speaker 1: It's Dustin Gregg. You go and follow him everywhere. Townhall.com
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Speaker 1: is where he does his columns. They'll follow him on X.
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Speaker 1: It's at Greggy Dustin, G-R-E, or G-R-A, G-E Dustin, just
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Speaker 1: all together as one word. I don't know who the
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Speaker 1: police chief was. You can probably tell me who it was.
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Speaker 1: It was a black gentleman standing at a microphone by
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Speaker 1: his podium and saying, yes, there's gang violence everywhere. But
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Speaker 1: right now, there's this uptick. in Somali gang violence, and
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Speaker 1: it's getting out of control. And then he goes on
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Speaker 1: to say, these people are driving the nicest cars. These
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Speaker 1: people are living in nice neighborhoods from two-parent homes. It's
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Speaker 1: not like they're being raised in the streets and they're
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Speaker 1: scratching and clawing to try to find something to eat tonight.
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Speaker 1: These people are like organized gangs that grew up in
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Speaker 1: these neighborhoods that are enclaves of Somali. How did this happen?
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Speaker 1: Did Minnesota as a whole, and I don't mean the
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Speaker 1: people necessarily, the government, turn a blind eye and allow
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Speaker 1: this to sprout the way that it has. And you're right.
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Speaker 1: You could probably name this guy. This police chief was
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Speaker 1: very direct. This is happening. This is real. Start reporting
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Speaker 1: what you see.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So Hodges is the name of that police chief specifically.
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Speaker 2: He's in Bloomington, I believe. But yeah, he came out
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Speaker 2: strong on this and said, hey, we have a Somali
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Speaker 2: gang violence problem very specifically. And also this was the
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Speaker 2: police chief who responded to a ISIS terrorist, because Bloomington
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Speaker 2: is the city where the Mall of America is also located.
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Speaker 2: And he also came out on top, because I have
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Speaker 2: to give him so much credit for this, where he
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Speaker 2: was just at a loss for words. And the one
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Speaker 2: thing he could say, though, that I think is resonating
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Speaker 2: with people is, I just don't understand how people could
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Speaker 2: hate this country. We're not perfect, but how you could
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Speaker 2: hate America. And we need to start teaching our children
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Speaker 2: to love this country because it is the greatest country
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Speaker 2: on this planet.
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Speaker 1: Hold on, let me stop you. Is that a red district?
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Speaker 1: Is that a red area, Bloomington or not? It's not,
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Speaker 1: is it?
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Speaker 2: Bloomington is definitely a blue district.
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Speaker 1: So he was unafraid to say, I love America.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, unafraid of that. And thankfully, we have great
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Speaker 2: law enforcement actually in Minnesota, Joe, and put it from
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Speaker 2: this perspective too. The law enforcement in Minnesota, especially in
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Speaker 2: that metro area of the Twin Cities, Minneapolis, St. Paul,
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Speaker 2: They endured the George Floyd riots of 2020. They endured
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Speaker 2: as ground zero for the defund the police movement. And
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Speaker 2: these patriots decided to stay in Minnesota anyway and continue
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Speaker 2: the good fight. So these are great people. It's the
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Speaker 2: prosecutors and the politicians that are the problem that won't
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Speaker 2: acknowledge this gang violence. The people that even if the
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Speaker 2: police chiefs and the sheriffs, they come up with the
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Speaker 2: budget within their own internal budgeting structures and they put
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Speaker 2: it forward. Is Mary Moriarty or Chow, the Ramsey County attorney,
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Speaker 2: are they even going to come forth and actually prosecute
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Speaker 2: these cases? Because in many cases, these kids are 18
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Speaker 2: years old, 17 years old. They're probably going to say
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Speaker 2: their brain isn't developed enough and they actually shouldn't get anything.
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Speaker 2: It should be a slap on the wrist. And then
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Speaker 2: the crime is going to continue. I mean, this is
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Speaker 2: how the fraud was also able to balloon over all
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Speaker 2: these years. Think about this. When whistleblowers within DHS in
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Speaker 2: Minnesota came forward and said, hey, Specifically in the Somali community,
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Speaker 2: we have a problem with these nonprofits. They're committing fraud
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Speaker 2: and we have to investigate it. We have to go
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Speaker 2: after these people. What did Tim Walz's administration do? They
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Speaker 2: ended up firing these people. They ended up putting them
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Speaker 2: in a corner, labeling them racist and retaliated against them.
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Speaker 2: There's 30 documented cases of retaliation from the Walz administration,
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Speaker 2: both going and labeling these people racist. as racist. And
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Speaker 2: now they're doing the same thing with Somali gains right now.
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Speaker 2: So it's just the same playbook, but thankfully, you know,
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Speaker 2: we can observe this from a mile away and understand
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Speaker 2: what their game plan is with it, but it's absolute catastrophe.
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Speaker 2: And hopefully we'll be able to get over this speed
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Speaker 2: bump a little bit quicker and actually address Somali gains
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Speaker 2: quicker than we did the fraud.
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Speaker 1: Dustin Gregg, you go and follow him everywhere. He's a
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Speaker 1: great columnist, townhall.com. You see him on Fox. You see
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Speaker 1: him all over the place. Great friend of mine. I'm
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Speaker 1: glad that you came on today. Let's break down this
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Speaker 1: alleged terror plot for the mall of America. Let's break that.
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Speaker 1: By the way, I didn't know it was in Bloomington.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was in Minneapolis. So good to know
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Speaker 1: that that police chief is the one who's working with
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Speaker 1: feds to stop something like this from happening. From what
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Speaker 1: I read, and you've got a much closer view and
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Speaker 1: I want your thoughts. From what I read, he's like
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Speaker 1: an 18-year-old guy who couldn't figure out how to go
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Speaker 1: to Somalia because he really would like to live in Somalia.
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Speaker 1: That's how stupid he is. He has no idea how
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Speaker 1: crappy his parents' country is. But here's a guy that somehow...
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Speaker 1: is trying to buy weaponry, AK-47 and other stuff, to
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Speaker 1: go and shoot up the mall because he said he
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Speaker 1: thinks the mall is owned by Jewish people, and it
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Speaker 1: may be, I don't know. But if you kill 30
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Speaker 1: to 60, people will stop giving those Jews the business.
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Speaker 1: Did I encapsulate it right? Is that really what happened?
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Speaker 2: Well, he got most of it there. He targeted specifically
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Speaker 2: the Mall of America, one, because he couldn't actually make
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Speaker 2: the trip to Somalia. He didn't have the means to
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Speaker 2: do so on his own.
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Speaker 1: I would have given him the money.
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Speaker 2: I'm just going to ride on the Mall of America.
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Speaker 1: You and I would buy the ticket for him if
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Speaker 1: he wants to go as fast as Somalia. It's going
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Speaker 1: to be a wake-up call. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: But go ahead. Okay, so he couldn't pay for himself
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Speaker 1: to go to Somalia, so he thought he'd join ISIS
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Speaker 1: here and shoot the place up here?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he pledged allegiance to ISIS and decided, I'm going
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Speaker 2: to go to the Mall of America. And you're right there.
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Speaker 2: He specifically chose the mall because, one, it's a big area,
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Speaker 2: but two, it's owned by the Jews. That was what
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Speaker 2: the complaint said from the U.S. Attorney's Office here in Minnesota.
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Speaker 2: But secondly, he chose September 24th. for a specific reason
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Speaker 2: because there was going to be a mun arts fair
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Speaker 2: at the mall of america that day and why that
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Speaker 2: well simply put they aren't muslims mun people aren't muslims
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Speaker 2: in minnesota and you know any other day of the
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Speaker 2: week you might bump into a bunch of somalis at
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Speaker 2: the mall of america so you don't want to commit
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Speaker 2: a mass shooting while your own people are there you
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Speaker 2: want to do it the Mun are there because they
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Speaker 2: are nonbelievers of Islam and they are nonbelievers of your philosophy.
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Speaker 2: So therefore, those are the people you want to target
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Speaker 2: and kill. It didn't even matter if they were Christians
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Speaker 2: or not, which Mun are traditionally when they came over,
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Speaker 2: they traditionally did convert to Christianity. but not in large
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Speaker 2: swaths like a standard Minnesotan would that's been here native
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Speaker 2: for years. Wow. But yeah, specifically because they weren't Muslims
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Speaker 2: and the Mall of America is owned by the Jews.
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Speaker 1: Crazy. And as we watch this unfold, I don't think
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Speaker 1: that he's an outlier. You've got to believe when you've
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Speaker 1: got enclaves that say our way of life is better
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Speaker 1: than the way of life of those around us. And
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Speaker 1: we're going to do all we can, whether it's violent gangs,
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Speaker 1: whether it's shooting up the mall, whether it's fill in
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Speaker 1: the blank. We're going to do all we can to
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Speaker 1: make it more like we want it to be when
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Speaker 1: their country still exists. Just go back to Somalia if
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Speaker 1: you want to live like that. But I'm guessing on
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Speaker 1: a national level, we're not hearing as much as you're
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Speaker 1: hearing on a local level. Is there an uprising in
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Speaker 1: so-called radicalization? We know there's an uprising in violence from
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Speaker 1: that community. Just give my national audience a picture of
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Speaker 1: those outside of Minnesota who don't understand exactly what's going
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Speaker 1: on in there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And I mean, there's definitely a radicalization just at
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Speaker 2: the bare base of it all. I mean, you can
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Speaker 2: go actually back to St. Cloud a decade ago. There
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Speaker 2: was a mass stabbing, I believe, an individual who, you know,
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Speaker 2: in the name of Islam, went and stabbed 10 people
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Speaker 2: at the St. Cloud Mall, about 45, 50 miles west
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Speaker 2: of Minneapolis, St. Paul. So this has happened before. And thankfully,
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Speaker 2: we do have a great FBI task force here in
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Speaker 2: Minnesota specifically to address terrorism, child trafficking. And specifically, they
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Speaker 2: actually go and they protect the Mall of America because
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Speaker 2: it's close proximity to the airport. They're right next to
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Speaker 2: each other. Same exit to go to the airport as
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Speaker 2: it is to go to the Mall of America. So
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Speaker 2: that close proximity has been a hotbed for human trafficking.
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Speaker 2: terrorism recruitment and so on, so forth, even the fraud
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Speaker 2: where they're shipping literally millions of dollars in cash from
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Speaker 2: that airport. I believe 90 percent of these million dollar
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Speaker 2: cash in suitcase cases that have been happening through the
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Speaker 2: country specifically happen in Minneapolis, St. Paul's Airport, if I
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Speaker 2: have that statistic correct. So like a mass majority of
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Speaker 2: it is happening right in that just two mile square radius.
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Speaker 2: And so thankfully, we do have a great FBI task
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Speaker 2: force here in Minnesota that can address that. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's been a problem for a while. And also, I
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Speaker 2: want to know what's happening in this family's home. This
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Speaker 2: kid was born in America. His family was actually from Somalia,
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Speaker 2: and he was the one that ended up being radicalized.
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Speaker 2: What is being taught in these homes? And also these parents,
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Speaker 2: they refuse to actually speak with law enforcement. So there's
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Speaker 2: definitely something much deeper there that we definitely have to
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Speaker 2: look into because this isn't going to be the first
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Speaker 2: individual that ends up doing this. And like the Somali
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Speaker 2: gang violence that we've been seeing, it started with, I believe,
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Speaker 2: a shooting in Edina. And then it ended up escalating
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Speaker 2: to a homecoming game, getting shot outside of a homecoming game.
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Speaker 2: A thousand people basically had to evacuate a homecoming game.
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Speaker 2: And then later in the week in Bloomington, I think
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Speaker 2: a hundred shots went off near a parking lot. So
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Speaker 2: It's just escalating, and I have to believe there's just
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Speaker 2: going to be more copycats that want to do this
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Speaker 2: same exact act again, but they're going to try to
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Speaker 2: be successful next time.
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Speaker 1: I'll never understand it because, objectively, Somalia is a horrible place.
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Speaker 1: I can call it an S-hole country. S-hole, I said.
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Speaker 1: Because it really is. It's run by warlords. You've got
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Speaker 1: to pay your way. You die if you don't believe
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Speaker 1: like they believe. We all saw Black Hawk down. It's
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Speaker 1: just a horrible place. pirates are emanating from there, and
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Speaker 1: these people are leaving. Let's say that they're all great people.
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Speaker 1: They're not, but let's say they're all great people who
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Speaker 1: just want a better life for their families. Why would
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Speaker 1: you raise a kid who's an American citizen born here
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Speaker 1: and make that kid have a desire to go to
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Speaker 1: that place that you fled? Maybe it's an unanswerable question,
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Speaker 1: but have you ever had an opportunity to sit down
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Speaker 1: with somebody who's a Somali ethnically, but they love America,
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Speaker 1: and they want to say, I don't understand why people...
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Speaker 1: yearn for that country we all fled? Is there a
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Speaker 1: reason we can say why they would come here and
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Speaker 1: make their child long to go to Somalia?
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Speaker 2: You know, Joe, and it's a very complicated one because
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Speaker 2: I do know a handful of Somalis that I truly
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Speaker 2: do think they love this country. I've also had a handful,
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Speaker 2: I believe, thought that and they've went and done the
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Speaker 2: exact opposite. I mean, Joe, I've helped some Somali candidates
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Speaker 2: run for office as Republicans and They've told me how
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Speaker 2: they're actually big supporters of Israel. But guess what happens
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Speaker 2: the moment October 7th happens, Joe? They end up celebrating it.
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Speaker 2: They celebrate on social media until they got banned from
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Speaker 2: social media from celebrating people being murdered in mass, 1,200
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Speaker 2: Jews in Israel. I've also had it where we've recruited
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Speaker 2: candidates to run as Republicans and they ended up lying
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Speaker 2: to us. They were actually Democrats. They wanted to come
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Speaker 2: into the party to actually hijack it. And then you
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Speaker 2: find out that some of these people literally served on
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Speaker 2: like Keith Ellison's transition team for his attorney general's office.
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Speaker 2: And they're appointed to positions in judicial boards by Peggy
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Speaker 2: Flanagan and Tim Walls. And they try to hide this,
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Speaker 2: but then they go and caucus as Republicans. So just
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Speaker 2: to be blunt, Joe, I don't trust many of them,
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Speaker 2: even if they have done so much good for so
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Speaker 2: many years, because some of them do. But at the
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Speaker 2: end of the day, in that faith, Islam, you are
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Speaker 2: permitted to lie to be able to advance your agenda
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Speaker 2: and your religion. And some of these people take that
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Speaker 2: far more seriously than they do their American heritage if
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Speaker 2: they are welcomed into this country and they deem to
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Speaker 2: try to assimilate. But at the end of the day,
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Speaker 2: you just don't know sometimes because you are permitted to
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Speaker 2: lie to advance your agenda in that religion.
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Speaker 1: There's massive Medicaid fraud, and for some reason, ground zero
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Speaker 1: is Minnesota. And we're watching it unfold. As I had Dr.
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Speaker 1: Oz on the other day, we talked about it, clamping
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Speaker 1: down the best they can. The problem is your leadership
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Speaker 1: there sucks. You've got Tim Walz. I know he's on
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Speaker 1: the way out. But then you've got Peggy Flanagan, who's
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Speaker 1: a nut job, who wants to be the U.S. senator.
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Speaker 1: You've got Amy Klobuchar, who probably is going to be
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Speaker 1: your next governor. I hope not, but it looks promising
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Speaker 1: for her if you want her to be that. Keith
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Speaker 1: Ellison is a nut job who doesn't like the law
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Speaker 1: at all. He thinks if you're a rape victim and
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Speaker 1: the perpetrator leaves, call a counselor, not a police officer.
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Speaker 1: That's who this guy is. And then you've got, I mean,
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Speaker 1: forgetting Jacob Fry and the nut jobs that run Minneapolis.
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Speaker 1: In New York, in the late 80s and early 90s,
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Speaker 1: New Yorkers had enough. And they said, we're going to
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Speaker 1: hold our noses and vote for Rudy Giuliani. In New
17:00
Speaker 1: York State, they said, we've had enough. We're going to
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Speaker 1: vote for George Pataki. You had a Republican governor, a
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Speaker 1: Republican mayor who fixed that state For a short amount
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Speaker 1: of time, it's in trouble again now. But there is
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Speaker 1: a point of critical mass for anybody who's living under
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Speaker 1: such a regime that just doesn't seem to like Minnesota,
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Speaker 1: doesn't seem to like Minneapolis, doesn't seem to like the country.
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Speaker 1: Are we there in Minnesota? Are we about to see
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Speaker 1: a Republican governor? Is that possible? Are we about to
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Speaker 1: see a Michelle Tafoya be the Republican U.S. Senator? Are
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Speaker 1: we about to see, you know, people say Moriarty's got
17:32
Speaker 1: to go because she's not prosecuting people she doesn't feel
17:34
Speaker 1: like prosecuting? Are we there? Are we going to see
17:36
Speaker 1: a Doug Wardlow or somebody else become the Attorney General?
17:40
Speaker 2: Yes, and Joe, I have good news, and I do
17:43
Speaker 2: believe that's about to happen. To throw out the statistics
17:46
Speaker 2: there specifically, New York has the longest drought, I believe,
17:50
Speaker 2: 22 years since electing a statewide Republican. Tied for second
17:54
Speaker 2: is California and Minnesota with 20 years. It's been 20 years,
17:58
Speaker 2: two decades since we've elected a statewide Republican. Now in 2022,
18:03
Speaker 2: Jim Schultz and Ryan Wilson ended up coming within a
18:07
Speaker 2: percentage point for auditor and attorney general. last midterm cycle.
18:12
Speaker 2: This midterm cycle, currently, Keith Ellison is down by two
18:15
Speaker 2: to three points, and that's still with 16% undecided. And
18:21
Speaker 2: just to let you guys know, Keith Ellison has 100%
18:23
Speaker 2: name ID. This has a potential to be a blowout,
18:27
Speaker 2: if you put it that way, because they know who
18:30
Speaker 2: Keith Ellison is, and they're still not backing him. They
18:32
Speaker 2: just need to know who Ron Schutz is, who's the
18:35
Speaker 2: current candidate running, and he's been labeled a top 200
18:39
Speaker 2: attorney in the country. That's what he was named, I believe,
18:41
Speaker 2: by Forbes, if I have the magazine correct. But also-
18:47
Speaker 2: in the state auditors race joe someone you're familiar with
18:50
Speaker 2: dr scott jensen he ran for governor last time he
18:53
Speaker 2: has great name id so currently he's up seven points
18:57
Speaker 2: in the polls now i do think that's going to
18:59
Speaker 2: level out a little bit simply because he has a
19:01
Speaker 2: lot of name id and his opponent doesn't but his
19:04
Speaker 2: favorables look solid i think we potentially have two right
19:08
Speaker 2: there now michelle tofoya This is the big one I
19:12
Speaker 2: think will be like, will this really potentially have an
19:15
Speaker 2: opportunity to be a wave election in Minnesota? Currently, the
19:19
Speaker 2: top pollster, public pollster, so it's not internals we're talking about,
19:24
Speaker 2: an A-rated independent pollster currently has this race tied for U.S. Senate.
19:29
Speaker 2: It is tied between the two. And why is that?
19:32
Speaker 2: It's because of the fraud. Peggy Flanagan was the number
19:35
Speaker 2: two individual in the state. And also remember, Tim Walz,
19:39
Speaker 2: he actually ended up going running for vice president. So
19:42
Speaker 2: during that time, Peggy Flanagan was the de facto governor
19:45
Speaker 2: running this state while a lot of this fraud was
19:48
Speaker 2: also occurring. And when it started to really balloon. So
19:52
Speaker 2: these people are dramatically not popular right now because of
19:56
Speaker 2: the failures they have all instilled. And also, you know,
20:01
Speaker 2: to point this out too, because we mentioned how Amy
20:03
Speaker 2: Klobuchar is going to be the next governor. I do
20:05
Speaker 2: think she's the hardest one to beat. I do think that. However,
20:10
Speaker 2: Her best, her worst election was last time against Rice White,
20:14
Speaker 2: who is a terrible candidate. Her best, her worst election
20:17
Speaker 2: ever came against our, probably our worst nominee we've ever
20:20
Speaker 2: had for statewide office. Just being blunt. She had her
20:24
Speaker 2: worst election, 16 points she won by. Now, currently it
20:27
Speaker 2: is pulling within, within single digits. I've seen anywhere from
20:32
Speaker 2: losing by eight or down by only two points. So
20:35
Speaker 2: she's vulnerable. This last January, I exposed an earmark, actually,
20:40
Speaker 2: that Amy Klobuchar had tried to invest a million dollars
20:44
Speaker 2: into a Somali nonprofit. And once we passed that on
20:48
Speaker 2: with Chip Roy, Mike Lee, as well as some other
20:52
Speaker 2: Freedom Caucus-leaning members of Congress, we ended up basically stopping
20:58
Speaker 2: the thing. Now the organization is under investigation. And get this, Joe,
21:03
Speaker 2: one of the family members who is related to the
21:06
Speaker 2: owners of that nonprofit has connections to ISIS. No, no way.
21:12
Speaker 2: She is not a wash clean of the fraud. She
21:15
Speaker 2: also is responsible when California banks were shutting down transfers
21:23
Speaker 2: from America to Somalia. She wrote a letter to Obama,
21:27
Speaker 2: the administration, to actually bring forth new legislation so the
21:31
Speaker 2: money could keep flowing. I mean, this was legal channels
21:34
Speaker 2: in their minds like they're thinking, well, it's just Somalis
21:38
Speaker 2: who are working hard, making money, and they want to
21:40
Speaker 2: send money over to their family. You know, good intentions.
21:43
Speaker 2: But let's be honest, Joe. A lot of that money
21:45
Speaker 2: probably went to al-Shabaab.
21:47
Speaker 1: We have no idea what the intentions are. We can't
21:50
Speaker 1: track that money. Why were they sending so much of
21:52
Speaker 1: it in cash?
21:52
Speaker 2: Exactly.
21:53
Speaker 1: Because it's untraceable. Let me, I want to go back
21:55
Speaker 1: to Peggy Flanagan if I can. And again, I think
21:58
Speaker 1: Amy Klobuchar plays the role of a next door neighbor. Hey,
22:01
Speaker 1: I'm a Minnesotan. I think she plays that role better
22:03
Speaker 1: than anybody else. So maybe that's why she's doing better.
22:06
Speaker 1: I hope she loses. That'd be great. But Peggy Flanagan,
22:08
Speaker 1: can you tell me why 46 or 48% would even
22:12
Speaker 1: support her knowing that she's the one that will claims
22:14
Speaker 1: to be Catholic, then throws on a hijab when it
22:16
Speaker 1: becomes obvious that she should, standing next to her really
22:20
Speaker 1: good friend from Somalia? Or why would anybody vote for
22:23
Speaker 1: somebody that says trans lives matter with a knife on
22:26
Speaker 1: her shirt? Why would anybody vote for this person who
22:28
Speaker 1: just shows hatred for the American way and will bend
22:31
Speaker 1: over backwards for anybody who's not from here? Why would
22:34
Speaker 1: she be even in the race? is what blows my mind.
22:37
Speaker 1: It's not 40% or 50% Somalia or Somalian in Minnesota.
22:42
Speaker 1: Why are there so many far left-wing nutjobs that think
22:44
Speaker 1: that she somehow is the choice as she oversaw the fraud,
22:48
Speaker 1: as she did all the things that I just said?
22:49
Speaker 1: Why would that be?
22:51
Speaker 2: I mean, just put it blunt, Joe, math. There are
22:54
Speaker 2: more Democrats in the state than there are Republicans. I mean,
22:57
Speaker 2: that's just a simple reality. Now, the good news, Joe,
23:00
Speaker 2: is rational thinking people who use critical thinking independents and
23:05
Speaker 2: Republicans who maybe want to show up in this race. Independence,
23:08
Speaker 2: Michelle Tafoya is leading very well in. She is leading
23:12
Speaker 2: very well with enthusiasm among Republicans. A lot of moderate
23:17
Speaker 2: Democrats are even thrown off by this race because Angie Craig,
23:21
Speaker 2: she raised $ 10 million in the DFL primary against Peggy Flanagan.
23:27
Speaker 2: There was a lot of moderate Democrats who who are
23:31
Speaker 2: very upset right now. And a couple of them have
23:33
Speaker 2: told me even like, yeah, I'm going to stick it
23:35
Speaker 2: to Peggy. I'm going to vote Republican on this specific race,
23:39
Speaker 2: but I'll vote Amy and I'll vote Keith on these
23:41
Speaker 2: other ones because I'm just so disenfranchised. Now, how big
23:45
Speaker 2: of a pool is that? I don't think it's that significant.
23:48
Speaker 2: But there are a group of people out there who
23:50
Speaker 2: are disenfranchised as Democrats. They're disenfranchised as independents. And Republicans,
23:56
Speaker 2: very specifically because there's not nearly as many Republicans. And
24:00
Speaker 2: also keep in mind, we've bled a lot of Republicans
24:03
Speaker 2: to Florida, Texas, down with you in San Antonio. We've
24:08
Speaker 2: lost tens of thousands of Republican votes to red states
24:12
Speaker 2: because they couldn't afford it anymore. They couldn't stand it anymore,
24:15
Speaker 2: so they left. So we're at a little bit more
24:18
Speaker 2: of a disadvantage. But in a midterm, it's all about
24:22
Speaker 2: actually voter enthusiasm. And Joe, they're pissed off. They are
24:27
Speaker 2: ready for a change election. I do think we're going
24:29
Speaker 2: to have a good turnout for Republicans. And if the
24:32
Speaker 2: independents actually do show out for us, that is our
24:35
Speaker 2: path to victory.
24:36
Speaker 1: It's Dustin Gregg. Dustin, you actually exposed or found or
24:40
Speaker 1: got 12,000 deleted tweets by Peggy Flanagan. What can we
24:45
Speaker 1: glean from that? First of all, why did she delete them?
24:48
Speaker 1: And what do we find out about her when we
24:50
Speaker 1: see the deleted files?
24:52
Speaker 2: Well, you see a lot of– she's way ahead of
24:54
Speaker 2: the curve on woke one. I mean we hate Thanksgiving
24:58
Speaker 2: over a decade ago. We are against border funding. We are– gosh,
25:04
Speaker 2: what was it? Columbus was a genocidal freak and an
25:07
Speaker 2: idiot who just happened to– there's a lot of that stuff.
25:11
Speaker 2: There's a lot of woke one and she was ahead
25:13
Speaker 2: of the curve on a lot of it. Pocahontas is
25:15
Speaker 2: a slur, so on and so forth. But I think
25:19
Speaker 2: the bigger story here, Joe, because also– she got progressive
25:23
Speaker 2: because I read from beginning to end on all those.
25:26
Speaker 2: She was getting progressively worse and worse as time went on.
25:29
Speaker 2: We're still missing the last five, six years of tweets.
25:32
Speaker 2: We're still missing 8,000 of them. So we don't know
25:36
Speaker 2: what those ones say yet. So we're trying to recover those.
25:38
Speaker 2: But back when she was just like a petty staffer
25:42
Speaker 2: working on some campaigns, this is what we have right
25:44
Speaker 2: now with those 12,000 tweets that we've uncovered. But really
25:49
Speaker 2: the big story here is Why did she delete it?
25:51
Speaker 2: She knew she was about to run for U.S. Senate.
25:54
Speaker 2: That's why she purged her entire.
25:56
Speaker 1: Short of you and short of Liz Collin, will anybody
25:59
Speaker 1: in the media in Minnesota go up to her with
26:01
Speaker 1: a microphone and say, why did you delete those 12,000 tweets?
26:03
Speaker 1: Will anybody ask her that?
26:05
Speaker 2: I haven't had it. I've been bullying some of these
26:08
Speaker 2: reporters in Minnesota going, why won't you actually talk about this?
26:12
Speaker 2: Especially because, keep this in mind, Joe, Michelle Tafoya came
26:16
Speaker 2: out at one point and said, you know... I'm kind
26:19
Speaker 2: of embarrassed to Minnesota. I'm embarrassed to the fraud, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda.
26:23
Speaker 2: So CNN wrote a big story on it. They're like, oh, U.S.
26:26
Speaker 2: Senator candidate hates their state. And she deleted three tweets,
26:30
Speaker 2: I think. OK, you're upset she deleted three tweets that
26:34
Speaker 2: she was ashamed of the fraud and embarrassed of all
26:37
Speaker 2: these national stories. But Peggy Flanagan can delete 20,000 tweets
26:42
Speaker 2: and nobody bats an eye like it's Democrat privilege, Joe. And,
26:47
Speaker 2: you know, that's an unfortunate reality we're facing. But the
26:49
Speaker 2: good news, as you know, I mean, a lot of
26:51
Speaker 2: reason why people know even know who my name is,
26:54
Speaker 2: is I was a guy who knew a lot about Tim. Also,
26:56
Speaker 2: once he ran for vice president, I also kind of
26:59
Speaker 2: went up there on the national stage. And I took
27:01
Speaker 2: all the oppo and all the stuff I had collected
27:04
Speaker 2: as an operative over a decade and experience with the
27:07
Speaker 2: Republican Party. And people went, whoa, what is all of
27:10
Speaker 2: this stuff? Tampons in bathrooms. He's visited China 30 times.
27:15
Speaker 2: He's lying about his location where he was in China.
27:19
Speaker 2: We were losing nuclear records after he visits China. I mean,
27:24
Speaker 2: all of this stuff that broke out, um, And now
27:28
Speaker 2: we have a megaphone now. Tim Walz gave Minnesota Republicans
27:33
Speaker 2: a platform on the national stage. So now when Nick
27:37
Speaker 2: Shirley comes to town and Nick Sorter, another good friend
27:40
Speaker 2: of the squatted here, we're able to actually expose this stuff.
27:45
Speaker 2: We actually have a microphone. We have a seat at
27:47
Speaker 2: the table. And that's why it's so much harder for
27:50
Speaker 2: these Democrats to get reelected now in the state. And
27:54
Speaker 2: I think it was a good thing that Tim Walz
27:56
Speaker 2: ran nationally because now we have an opportunity to actually
27:59
Speaker 2: push back and win this state maybe again.
28:01
Speaker 1: That'd be amazing. It's Dustin Greggie. Go to Greggiedustin over
28:04
Speaker 1: on X. Go to DustinGreggie.com. Go to TownHall.com. I want
28:08
Speaker 1: to finish with the fraud. Dustin, who must have known
28:11
Speaker 1: about the fraud for it to get so expansive? Would
28:14
Speaker 1: it have been Walls, Flanagan? Would it have been Keith Ellison?
28:18
Speaker 1: Who had to have known and who had to have
28:20
Speaker 1: either turned a blind eye or maybe would have been
28:22
Speaker 1: complicit for this to get as broad as it became?
28:26
Speaker 2: I mean, the big three, I mean, just being blunt,
28:29
Speaker 2: it's Tim Walls, it's Peggy Flanagan, it's Keith Ellison. specifically because, yeah,
28:34
Speaker 2: that's the administration. And they knew this was coming. And
28:36
Speaker 2: you know what? I'm going to mention it now. I
28:38
Speaker 2: was going to tweet this out maybe on Monday. Maybe
28:41
Speaker 2: I'll do it tomorrow now. But I actually have a recording.
28:44
Speaker 2: I've been going back and watching Peggy Flanagan's committee hearings.
28:47
Speaker 2: And I actually have an audio only. They didn't have
28:49
Speaker 2: video for this committee hearing, but it's audio only. Peggy
28:52
Speaker 2: Flanagan was a part of a children's development committee as
28:56
Speaker 2: a state representative. So she's a state rep. She's going
28:59
Speaker 2: to go in to be the lieutenant governor. She's overseen
29:02
Speaker 2: this committee where a lot of the CCAP fraud, child
29:06
Speaker 2: care funding, basically. She's known about the fraud. She's known
29:10
Speaker 2: about specifically the daycare fraud. And we had a whistleblower
29:14
Speaker 2: come into that committee and say, the next administration coming in,
29:19
Speaker 2: what are you going to do? This is a problem.
29:21
Speaker 2: I will die on this hill. This, to quote, this
29:25
Speaker 2: has the potential to be Minnesota's Watergate, direct quote. from
29:30
Speaker 2: Scott Stillman is the name of the whistleblower. He was
29:33
Speaker 2: a analyst with the Minnesota government. And one of the
29:38
Speaker 2: Republicans looks over, well, good news, Scott. You know, we'll
29:41
Speaker 2: forward this recording over to Peggy, a member of this committee.
29:45
Speaker 2: But as you can see, she's not here, is what
29:48
Speaker 2: the recording says. She's not in the room. She's not
29:51
Speaker 2: in her committee. She's about to go in to be
29:54
Speaker 2: the next lieutenant governor. And we have a whistleblower saying
29:58
Speaker 2: there's massive fraud in daycare in Minnesota. She knew about
30:02
Speaker 2: the fraud, Joe. And they did nothing. And really the
30:07
Speaker 2: big thing that really blew this up is because all
30:09
Speaker 2: these mechanisms of fraud, they were in place. It was
30:12
Speaker 2: the daycare fraud. It was the autism fraud. It was
30:15
Speaker 2: all of this variation of it. But the moment COVID
30:18
Speaker 2: hit Joe, it bloomed. It just expanded at an exponential rate.
30:24
Speaker 2: And that's how we got to nine, 10 billion plus
30:27
Speaker 2: in fraud. That's how we ended up getting there. And yeah,
30:32
Speaker 2: they had no guardrails to the point where, you know,
30:34
Speaker 2: the feeding our future fraud They were directing these addresses
30:40
Speaker 2: of the DBAs and the LLCs. They were just empty
30:46
Speaker 2: parking lots, Joe. How are you distributing thousands of meals
30:50
Speaker 2: a day in empty parking lots?
30:52
Speaker 1: Did they feed anybody?
30:53
Speaker 2: There was no oversight on this stuff.
30:54
Speaker 1: Did they feed anybody? Did anybody get any food?
30:58
Speaker 2: Uh, there was no, and this, this, and so this
31:00
Speaker 2: is a good distinction too. Um, why did fee in
31:02
Speaker 2: our future get caught? Nobody was being fed Joe. It
31:05
Speaker 2: was so easy and blunt. Um, but the real fraud that,
31:10
Speaker 2: you know, is how do we get to nine plus billion?
31:13
Speaker 2: How do we get there? Well, Joe Thompson, who was
31:15
Speaker 2: a Democrat, by the way, who was in the U
31:17
Speaker 2: S attorney's office prior to now, Joe Tayrab is the
31:20
Speaker 2: new first assistant to, uh, U S attorney in Minnesota. Now, uh,
31:24
Speaker 2: great guy. Just, uh, talked to them a little bit ago. Um,
31:28
Speaker 2: Joe Thompson specifically says the fraud we really actually have
31:31
Speaker 2: to watch out for is the overcharging and underserving Medicaid,
31:37
Speaker 2: Medicare fraud. So much, much harder to catch. You actually
31:41
Speaker 2: do have three beds in your in-home facility, but you're
31:47
Speaker 2: charging for seven people or you're overbilling. You're you're treating
31:51
Speaker 2: them as if they're vegetables, but they're actually functionable. They're
31:54
Speaker 2: walking to the gas station. to buy a pack of cigarettes.
31:57
Speaker 2: This is the fraud that we really have to dig
32:00
Speaker 2: into next. It's really easy for Nick Shirley to walk
32:03
Speaker 2: up to a building and go, why the hell does
32:04
Speaker 2: this say Learing Center on it? Are there any kids
32:07
Speaker 2: in here? It's really easy to catch that stuff. The
32:10
Speaker 2: big one we're going to have to go after next, Joe,
32:13
Speaker 2: is these people who provide some services, but they overcharge everything.
32:18
Speaker 2: This is where the real fraud is happening. So that's
32:20
Speaker 2: what we're going to have to dig into next.
32:22
Speaker 1: Let me ask you one last question. Dustin, I appreciate
32:24
Speaker 1: all the time today. We're going to make two parts
32:26
Speaker 1: out of this for the radio audience. We'll put it
32:28
Speaker 1: up on YouTube later. The last question has to be this. Why?
32:32
Speaker 1: Why would Tim Walls, Peggy Flanagan, and Keith Ellison want
32:36
Speaker 1: to be either ignorant of it or somehow involved in it?
32:41
Speaker 1: Is there any sort of a way to track the money?
32:45
Speaker 1: to see if they or their campaigns or anybody else
32:47
Speaker 1: got any of that money. Because if they don't have
32:49
Speaker 1: anything to gain from it, they just love fraud. There's
32:52
Speaker 1: no reason to do this if they're not enriching themselves somehow.
32:54
Speaker 1: What do we know on that end, if anything?
32:58
Speaker 2: Well, you just have to have your eyes look at
33:01
Speaker 2: it and analyze it just honestly and bluntly. Mayor Fry,
33:07
Speaker 2: he had staffers that were involved in Fener Feature. Ilhan
33:10
Speaker 2: Omar also had staffers involved with this. Peggy Flanagan, one
33:14
Speaker 2: of her longtime friends, a couple of decades going back,
33:17
Speaker 2: her autism center is now under investigation. All of these people,
33:22
Speaker 2: they are specifically only coordinated and aligned with Democrats. It's
33:27
Speaker 2: only Democrats. This isn't happening with Republican politicians. And you
33:31
Speaker 2: just have to say bluntly, like if. It sounds like
33:34
Speaker 2: a duck and it looks like a duck. It's probably
33:36
Speaker 2: a duck, Joe. There's probably something there now how to
33:39
Speaker 2: prove that. That's a completely different, you know, sphere we
33:42
Speaker 2: have to enter at this point. But, you know, we
33:45
Speaker 2: have to at least make our voices heard in November
33:47
Speaker 2: because I'm going to be blunt, Joe. If Republicans lose
33:51
Speaker 2: all of it again, I don't know if we can recover.
33:54
Speaker 2: I just honestly don't know if we can. I've heard
33:55
Speaker 2: too many stories of, you know. We're thinking about moving.
33:59
Speaker 2: We're on our last straw. I don't know how we're
34:01
Speaker 2: going to be able to pay these increasing property taxes.
34:04
Speaker 2: And if Democrats win, they're going to be emboldened. They're
34:07
Speaker 2: going to be like, look what we can get away with.
34:09
Speaker 2: And they're just going to keep it going. I just
34:12
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to go away. So we have
34:14
Speaker 2: to address it. First off, foremost, with this upcoming election,
34:18
Speaker 2: we have to send a message to voters that, hey,
34:21
Speaker 2: this is baloney. It's malarkey. We have to cut through
34:24
Speaker 2: this and actually solve it. But, you know, Part of
34:28
Speaker 2: it's also just, you know, turn a blind eye. I mean,
34:30
Speaker 2: just to be blunt, also the Somali community, they vote
34:33
Speaker 2: for Democrats. If you as Democrats now go against that
34:38
Speaker 2: community and you start actually enforcing the law, maybe they're
34:42
Speaker 2: going to stop supporting you. Maybe they won't vote for Republicans,
34:44
Speaker 2: but maybe they'll stop showing up for you. Maybe it's
34:47
Speaker 2: going to be harder to canvas their neighborhoods because the
34:50
Speaker 2: clans aren't going to work with you because also, you know,
34:53
Speaker 2: none of them are assimilating, at least a very small amount.
34:56
Speaker 2: Or they'll just pretend to not speak English. I had
34:58
Speaker 2: plenty of friends who would walk up to Somali businesses.
35:01
Speaker 2: They'd start talking to them, realize a white guy's talking
35:03
Speaker 2: to them. So then they start talking in French. But then,
35:06
Speaker 2: of course, Joe, the journalist knows how to speak French too.
35:09
Speaker 2: Start speaking French and then they just shut down and
35:11
Speaker 2: they walk in the back room. So this is real stuff.
35:14
Speaker 2: They'll just shut down and they won't vote for you anymore.
35:16
Speaker 2: So there's also a power structure there. But yeah, it's
35:19
Speaker 2: all of the above, Joe. We just got to use
35:21
Speaker 2: our eyes, use our ears. If it looks like a squirrel,
35:23
Speaker 2: it sounds like a squirrel. It's probably a squirrel.
35:25
Speaker 1: It's Dustin Greger. We appreciate the time and the access.
35:27
Speaker 1: Let's do it again before the midterms. I want to
35:28
Speaker 1: make sure the people of Minnesota and around the country
35:31
Speaker 1: are completely in the know about what's going on in
35:33
Speaker 1: that great state. Dustin, thanks a million. Appreciate you.
35:36
Speaker 2: Thanks, Joe. We'll see you.
35:37
Speaker 1: All right, brother. We're back after this in the Joe
35:39
Speaker 1: Pag Show. Stay right here.