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Woman rejected you? Don't you dare walk away | Cozy Gaming Stream · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name
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  Speaker 1: is Brian, I'm here with Allison, and this is the
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  Speaker 1: Cozy Gaming Stream, Woman Rejected You, Don't You Dare Walk Away,
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  Speaker 1: where we will be reading through a more medium cringe
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  Speaker 1: and maybe even playing a little bit of Repo in between.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so..
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  Speaker 3: With all hope. Yeah, with all hope.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit. Yeah. I don't have crowd control set
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  Speaker 2: up this time. Sorry, I didn't do it. So we're
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  Speaker 2: going to have to go in dry.
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  Speaker 3: That's a nice way of putting it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Anyway, why don't you go ahead and do
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  Speaker 2: the things?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So we're going to be discussing an article in
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  Speaker 3: which our very favorite medium writer, Desiree Peralta. This is
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  Speaker 3: the woman who wrote an article about how men who
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  Speaker 3: pursue women are bad. And you can't possibly pursue a
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  Speaker 3: woman correctly because you do not have her consent before
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  Speaker 3: you initiate pursuing her. So you can't approach a woman
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  Speaker 3: without consent, which means all men's approaches are bad.
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  Speaker 2: They're wrong.
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  Speaker 3: And then wrote a book called a romance in which
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  Speaker 3: the hero is a stalker. And interestingly enough, there are
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  Speaker 3: two sort of stalkers, but the stalker that wins the
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  Speaker 3: love of young fair maiden is the rich one. Because,
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  Speaker 3: you know, feminists love men for their souls. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway, she's written a new article. And the reason why,
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  Speaker 3: you know, women don't want men today is because Men
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  Speaker 3: are demonic and they don't have personalities or something. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: so the new thing that she's written is that if
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  Speaker 3: you approach a woman and she rejects you and you
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  Speaker 3: then stop interacting with her, you are a misogynist. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so... I don't know how you managed to get
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  Speaker 3: through the obstacle course of also being misogynist for approaching
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  Speaker 3: her in the first place. But if you do that,
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  Speaker 3: and you manage to approach non-misogynistically, which is like some
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  Speaker 3: kind of Schrodinger's misogynist situation, because if you don't have consent,
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  Speaker 3: you can't approach, but you can't get consent until you approach.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like you managed to... some kind of superimposition
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  Speaker 3: quantum state of approaching, and you manage to do that,
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  Speaker 3: if you then respond to her rejection by not speaking
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  Speaker 3: to her again or just not interacting with her again,
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  Speaker 3: you are a double plus triple misogynist, guys. Also, this
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  Speaker 3: particular woman, she's got a thousand claps on this. She's
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  Speaker 3: not huge, but she also... is not small in terms
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  Speaker 3: and the relationship between men and women... And if you're
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  Speaker 3: it might be because they have been taught by a
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  Speaker 3: men is to locate resentment, to get into the resentment space,
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  Speaker 3: the anthropological definition, which is pretty legitimate, which, you know,
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  Speaker 3: well if you're interested all right so shall we get
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  Speaker 3: into reading lee article.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah uh all right so i'll start that and then
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  Speaker 1: like what we'll read some and then i'll invite people
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  Speaker 1: in so sure uh this is a medium.
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  Speaker 3: What can i just get a quick.
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  Speaker 1: Question your microphone changed i don't know like are you
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  Speaker 1: switching between them your sounds no i'm not Okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds better now than it did just a second ago, so.
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  Speaker 3: All right, so does it sound better now?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so it sounds better now.
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  Speaker 2: How about now? Yeah, it sounds fine. Hmm.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds fine. Okay. I don't know. It's doing some
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  Speaker 3: weird thing. I'm trying to get it on one setting.
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  Speaker 3: You know what? It should be close enough. So it
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  Speaker 3: sounds better now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Weird.
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  Speaker 2: Weird.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, let me double check to make sure that I'm
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  Speaker 3: on the right setting. Yeah, I'm on wireless microphone. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: so is it sounding worse now?
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  Speaker 2: How about now? Nope, sounds the same. I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't sound bad. I'm just saying it doesn't sound any different.
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  Speaker 3: All right, all right. Okay, that's interesting. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So let me do the article.
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  Speaker 1: So this is a Medium blog by Desiree Peralta. It
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  Speaker 1: was written a number of blogs on relationships and mostly
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  Speaker 1: it's man bashing stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But what are you going to do?
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  Speaker 1: That seems to be like relatively normal these days. And
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  Speaker 1: the title of this one is how to know if
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  Speaker 1: the man you're talking to hates women.
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  Speaker 2: It works every time. Okay. Last week.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see if it's actually.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see if it actually, if it's honest, like if
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  Speaker 3: this is, if this is a legitimate guideline to misogynists.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's find out.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to hold my breath, though.
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  Speaker 1: Last week, I went to the movies with my friends
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  Speaker 1: to see the new Spider-Man film. In the movie, there's
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  Speaker 1: a scene, I don't know if this is a spoiler,
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  Speaker 1: if you feel it might be, skip to the next paragraph,
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  Speaker 1: where a girl directly rejects the protagonist and then asks
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  Speaker 1: him to please take her home. The protagonist does so
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  Speaker 1: without hesitation, causing many people in the theater to become
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  Speaker 1: indignant and and even shout some bad words at the screen.
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  Speaker 1: For me, that was the most humane and normal action
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  Speaker 1: in the world, but later at home, I even saw
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  Speaker 1: many comments from men on Twitter, it's not Twitter anymore, lady,
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  Speaker 1: but okay, saying what they would have done in the
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  Speaker 1: protagonist's place. Quote, I would have let her go on
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  Speaker 1: her own, end quote. I would have pushed her into
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  Speaker 1: the water. I would have left and abandoned her there.
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  Speaker 1: That scene was clearly a trigger for many men, since
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  Speaker 1: most of them, especially those who hate women, aren't used
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  Speaker 1: to treating a girl with decency after being rejected.
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  Speaker 2: That's not treating... Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: That is not treating a girl with decency. That is
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  Speaker 3: going over, bending over backwards to give her more of
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  Speaker 3: your resources.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: You don't owe her a drive anywhere. I mean, you
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  Speaker 3: could be a very decent person and do it. You know,
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  Speaker 3: if you're the kind of person who would pick up
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  Speaker 3: a man in the same situation and give him a drive, sure. Like,
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  Speaker 3: you're just a decent person. But, like, you're not going
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  Speaker 3: to get any credit for it. This is, once again,
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  Speaker 3: a feminist establishing the bare minimum. for a man to
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  Speaker 3: be regarded as momentarily human, which she will then subsequently
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  Speaker 3: forget 30 seconds after it's completed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if a woman isn't obligated to do
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  Speaker 1: anything for a man and she shouldn't be, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: date him or whatever... A man is also not obligated
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  Speaker 1: to do anything for a woman. But we have spoiled
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  Speaker 1: women so much on their entitlement that when they believe
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  Speaker 1: that they can be taken somewhere by a man... I
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen this Spider-Man movie, so I'm just going to
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  Speaker 1: go off of a non-specific example instead. That makes more
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  Speaker 1: sense to me. If a man takes her somewhere... Let's say,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and then he, like, asks her on a
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  Speaker 1: date or he wants to, like, take it to another
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  Speaker 1: level or whatever it is. And she rejects him and
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  Speaker 1: then says, take me home. He's not obligated to do it. Like,
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  Speaker 1: that's an aspect of romantic chivalry that needs to be
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  Speaker 1: left in the dustbin. And this is really women's fault.
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  Speaker 1: But ultimately, this guy doesn't owe her anything. If she
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  Speaker 1: doesn't owe him, he doesn't owe her. It's very simple.
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  Speaker 2: And that's fair.
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  Speaker 3: It is fair. And it's this attitude that men should
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  Speaker 3: be obligated to provide women resources without being in a
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  Speaker 3: relationship when the entire concept of men providing women resources
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  Speaker 3: is part of this kind of human reproduction. It's part
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  Speaker 3: of human courtship. And if that's not on the table...
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  Speaker 3: then men shouldn't be obligated to provide resources. They shouldn't
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  Speaker 3: really be obligated necessarily to provide resources in a relationship,
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  Speaker 3: or at least any more than a woman provides. That's
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  Speaker 3: sort of... I think we took a pretty bad turn
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  Speaker 3: during the housewife craze. The flash in the pan that
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  Speaker 3: men then for the rest of existence were held to.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, and also the other thing is I just
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  Speaker 3: got through a whole bunch of feminist historical literature And
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  Speaker 3: apparently men providing for women and creating a situation where
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  Speaker 3: women rely on them, they're dependent on them, is where
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  Speaker 3: we situate oppression. So why would a man oppress a
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  Speaker 3: woman in this manner? Like if she rejects him and
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  Speaker 3: he says, you know, I apologize for ever having wanted
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  Speaker 3: to step into the role of your oppressor. I am
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  Speaker 3: going to leave you here, in the middle of the
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  Speaker 3: black forest, and I'm going to allow you to navigate
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  Speaker 3: your way home so that you do not develop a
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  Speaker 3: dependence upon me. Good luck! You know, moss grows on
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  Speaker 3: the south sides of trees. There you go. Good luck.
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  Speaker 3: Getting back to civilization. I mean, surely that is the
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  Speaker 3: least oppressive thing a man could do. If making women
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  Speaker 3: dependent on them is, as feminists say, oppression of women.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying, Brian?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Guys, you really should stop oppressing women. And that means
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  Speaker 3: don't give them anything because that creates dependencies. Right?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Don't give them food on dates. That creates dependencies. You know,
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  Speaker 3: like you feed animals in your backyard and they start
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  Speaker 3: to become dependent on it? Yeah, don't do that. That's oppression.
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: The only thing that isn't oppression is if she pays
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  Speaker 3: for you. But she shouldn't expect anything from that. Because
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  Speaker 3: that's rape culture. Alright, let's read some more.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: thank you for the super childs. Let me go back
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  Speaker 1: to the article.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So, and it's actually one of the best ways to
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  Speaker 1: know if a man hates women. Reject him, let him
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  Speaker 1: know he won't get anything from you, and see how
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  Speaker 1: he treats you afterward. Now, why would a man, why
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  Speaker 1: would anybody, let's not even look at it in the
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  Speaker 1: realm of relationships.
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  Speaker 2: Let's look at it in any kind of setup.
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  Speaker 1: Let's say you go, even in a place, in an
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  Speaker 1: environment where you're compelled to serve people. If you go
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  Speaker 1: into an establishment and you tell them to make you
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  Speaker 1: something and they do it and then you say, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to buy it. Oh, you know, you reject
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  Speaker 1: it on its face. But you also ask that they,
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  Speaker 1: you know, do something else for you and you didn't pay.
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  Speaker 1: They don't owe you anything like it's it's maybe that's
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  Speaker 1: a bad analogy.
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  Speaker 2: But what I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Saying is I got a better one.
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  Speaker 2: She's saying reject.
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  Speaker 1: Him and let him know he won't get anything from
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  Speaker 1: you and then see how he treats you afterwards. If
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  Speaker 1: he just leaves you there, that's not bad.
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  Speaker 2: Treatment, you know? But go ahead. What's your better example?
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  Speaker 3: Well, okay, well, here's a better example, all right? Let's
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  Speaker 3: see if women can understand this. You have a friend,
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  Speaker 3: female friend, and you go out to coffee with her.
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  Speaker 3: And then she says to you, you're not my friend.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not interested in being your friend. And then the
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  Speaker 3: next second she said, uh, and by the way, you're,
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  Speaker 3: you're giving me a ride back to my house. What
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  Speaker 3: would you think about that? Ladies? Would you think, would
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  Speaker 3: you think to yourself? Oh, Hey, I owe that woman.
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  Speaker 3: All right. Um, for, on what basis do you owe her?
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  Speaker 3: On what basis are you obligated? Give her use of
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  Speaker 3: your car because of what? Now the question now is
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  Speaker 3: let's go back to the man. You reject him, right?
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  Speaker 3: Just imagine how you would feel if you go to
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  Speaker 3: coffee with your girlfriend and she publicly says, yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not interested in you. We're not friends anymore. You can go.
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  Speaker 3: Just go. Or, well, I mean, give me a ride
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  Speaker 3: and then you can go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: How would you feel? And then you've done that to
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  Speaker 3: this man, right? And now you're asking him for things.
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  Speaker 3: The audacity... And women understand this immediately. They can immediately
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  Speaker 3: pick up on this. Would that not be audacious for
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  Speaker 3: this ex-friend who just rejected you in public to then
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  Speaker 3: ask after your resources? And what would you say to her?
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  Speaker 3: Would you tell her to go to hell? I think so. Well,
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  Speaker 3: you must not be a really good human being then, ladies.
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  Speaker 3: You're just a bad person then. All right. Somebody has
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  Speaker 3: decided they don't want to associate with you socially, and
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  Speaker 3: you refuse to give them the shirt off your back? Wow,
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  Speaker 3: you're just a terrible person.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 3: You are like, you're like a, I don't know, a
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  Speaker 3: slut bitch for doing that. Whatever. Like the worst thing.
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  Speaker 3: And when I put it into that context, it becomes obvious,
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  Speaker 3: doesn't it? You can't even explain what the woman owes
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  Speaker 3: her ex-friend. And that's exactly the same situation the man
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  Speaker 3: is in. Doesn't owe her a damn thing. What the hell? Like,
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  Speaker 3: what is this? This is the ambient expectation, the ambient
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  Speaker 3: entitlement to men's resources that I see in a lot
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  Speaker 3: of women. And it's sort of sickening, to be honest. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: shall we read some more of this article?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a super chat. I'm going to keep going.
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  Speaker 1: So HaradaB3i gave us 50. I think they're cronas, and says,
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  Speaker 1: see that star over there?
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: That's north. I'll drive home and have a beer.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Bye.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to the article. Yeah, go ahead.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: If you have any doubt, just follow the stream. If
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: you go upstream, you'll be going up. Eventually, you'll find something, right? And,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: you know, there's settlements on streams. Good luck. Maybe you'll
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: find a bear. You can settle down with a bear.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: You'll get lucky.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, next section.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Rejection is the ultimate.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Are you actually recording through OBS out of curiosity? Okay, good.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: All right. Keep going. Sorry.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Rejection is the ultimate test of a man's character. I've
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: rejected hundreds of men throughout my life. That seems like
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: a brag, by the way. I'm turning them down left
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: and right.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: I don't think you are, lady, but okay.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Many of them felt indignant and just stopped talking to
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: me immediately. Others moved on with their lives as if
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: nothing happened, and others refused to take no for an
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: answer and tried to convince me I was wrong. All right.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: The ones who stopped talking to me right away showed
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: me something important. That they never actually cared about me
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: as a person. That they only care about the idea
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: of being with me or getting something out of me.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: The moment I said no, I became useless to them.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: So they disappeared. Yeah, because you are.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Like, if a man is asking you out, he has
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: a specific goal. There's nothing insidious about a person being
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: romantically interested or even sexually interested in somebody else. And
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: if that other person says, no, thank you. And then
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the first, the person who was asking or making the
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: offer says, okay, then I'm going to move on.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I'm just fine. I'm going to leave.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: That's not disrespect. That's actually probably too much respect. Like
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: it's like, well, I don't know what too much, but
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: it is appropriate.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: It's yeah.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: It's an appropriate amount. Appropriate reaction is to be like, okay,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I'm going to move on now. Like, why would I
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: want to be around someone who doesn't like me? Just
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: to put myself through.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: That, you know? Yeah.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Again, like, if you just translate this to a situation
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: between two women, women immediately understand that it's an absolutely
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: audacious level of entitlement to expect that you say to
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: another woman, oh, I don't want to be your friend.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: By the way, you're going to help me pack and move,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: you know, on Saturday. That's, like, unbelievable.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: They understand that. You have rejected this man socially. You
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: do not get access to his resources. The end. I mean,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: he might be gracious enough to provide something for you
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: because he's a really good guy. But that doesn't mean
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: he's obligated. It does not mean that men are obligated
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: to anything. This is, like I said, this is like
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: the ambient entitlement that women have. And it's also behind
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: all of this, like, that towards an individualistic reproduction. This
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: idea that men just owe women stuff by virtue of
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: those women existing. You know what I mean?
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Like, women don't have to respond to men's romantic interest.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: They don't even have to question nasty narratives about men.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: You know, they..
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: We can continue to have a society that just perpetuates
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: nastiness about men and undercuts them in the dating sphere
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: or scene constantly and still expect these men to be
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: obligated to pay for women by virtue of the fact
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: that they are women. And they women. And they need
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: to be women-ing, women-ing. You know, woman. That's the reason
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: for it. It's like, no, there needs to be a
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: bit more. Just like when I refer to it, when
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: I put it into the realm of two women, immediately
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: you see, yeah, that doesn't make sense. She's in no way, like,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: she's just been rejected. She's in no way obligated to
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: give her resources to someone who's socially rejected her. That
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: makes no sense. And yet, for some reason, there's this
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: ambient belief that it makes perfect sense when it's a
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: man being socially rejected by a woman, or women, or society.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: They still are obligated to pay... For the society that
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: rejects them. It's funny how that works. You know, just,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: it seems like it's a flawed thinking, but yeah. And
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: then the other thing I would mention is feminists were
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: very clear from the beginning that men creating any kind
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: of dependency in women, AKA providing anything for them is oppression.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: So guys don't oppress women, give them nothing. Uh, in fact, uh,
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: in gender to create situations where they have to rely
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: on themselves even more. If a woman rejects you and
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: she's like, you've got to give me a ride home,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: don't do that. Go put her in the Sahara. That
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: will give her ample opportunities to be self-reliant, which is
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: the opposite of oppressing women. QED.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I got a Rumble rant from NovaFan21 for a dollar
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: and he says, next step, feminists will call everything ignore grape.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, wait, it's begun. Yes, Rumble Ransom.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're already there.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're already there.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: If you're the wrong... It depends on the kind of
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: man you are. That's all that matters.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: All right. So, anyway.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: They only cared about the idea of being with me
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: or getting something out of me. The moment I said no,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I became useless to them, so they disappeared. The ones
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: who moved on were different. They seemed genuinely disappointed, but
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: they accepted it. They treated me the same way they always... had,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: like I was still a human being even though I
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: didn't want to date them. Those men understood that rejection
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: didn't make me a bad person or make them less
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: of a man. But the ones who refused to take no,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: the ones who got angry or insulted me or told
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: me I'd regret it or tried to make me feel
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: guilty for rejecting them, those were the ones who showed
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: their true colors. Those were the ones who hated that
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I had the power to say no to them. Those
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: were the ones who couldn't handle that I had my
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: own mind and my own choices. Did they force themselves
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: on you? Did they do something untoward? Did they break
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: the law? Or did they just sort of become a
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: little bit more insistent? Did they like double down? Did they,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know, try to try different tactics? Or does
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: that not matter because if a man changes tactics or
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: he becomes more assertive or he doubles down or whatever,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: it's really just him not being able to take no
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: for an answer because he's an oppressor.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Um, okay.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I got a, Oh shit. Richard Pierre sent a super chow.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I wonder if he sent one before that I forgot about.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Let me see. Uh, no, he didn't. He just sent
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: one though.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Um, $ 5 from Richard Pierre. He says getting a flashback
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: to that woman who, when her date brought her to
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: the cheesecake factory, decided to look her, lock her door
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: and get out of the car and, even though she
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: took so long getting ready that he missed the reservation
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: that he told her about. I don't recall if he
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: told her to take an Uber home or if he
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: drove her back, but her conduct basically ended the date
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: right there.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I still have that one clip saved on my phone,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I think, or on one of my social media places. Yeah,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I think he had made reservations somewhere else. And he
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: had to like make last minute changes. So he said,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: let's go to Cheesecake Factory. And she was like, Cheesecake Factory?
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: That's beneath me. And so she basically like broke it
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: off with him or whatever. So I don't, I think
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: he did drive her home though.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: All right. Anyway.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: That would be an awkward drive.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I think he did.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Or he may have ordered her an Uber. But I
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have done shit. i'm sorry like you know forget
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: it i'm just gonna move on all right so that
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: spider-man scene triggered men because the protagonist treated the girl
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: with respect after she rejected him he didn't punish her
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: for saying no he didn't make her feel bad about
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: it he just took her home And for some men,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: that felt wrong because they've never learned to see women
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: as deserving basic decency once they've said no. Is basic
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: decency just like being a woman chauffeur after she rejects you?
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Is that basic? Is that bare minimum?
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: No, just run the two female friends test. If a
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: woman publicly rejects another woman as a friend, says, yeah,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: I'm not interested in being your friend, and then demands
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: a ride home afterwards... Who is the one who is entitled?
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Who is the one who is the asshole? Just run
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: it that way. For some reason, we have this kind
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: of latent bias about men and men's company. That somehow,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: if a man catches a bare whiff of a woman,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: he owes her a living. It's like, no. If she
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: socially rejected him, he has no obligation to provide her
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: with his resources. Any one of them. He might be
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: an unusually nice guy, but that doesn't mean if he
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: doesn't do it, he isn't he can still be a
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: very nice guy he just doesn't like you right he
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: just or or alternatively he just doesn't want to deal
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: with it right he just doesn't want to deal with
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: you anymore you know rejecting a man does make him
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: uncomfortable and have negative feelings so he probably doesn't want
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: to have to Could you imagine that? Like, this woman
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: rejects you and you have to have a drive with her? Right?
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: And this chick gets even worse in her expectations because
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure she also expects men not to burden
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: women with the feelings that they get around rejection.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, of course. Like, if a man is rejected,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: he has to keep that inside. Also, toxic masculinity, bad.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Men should express themselves more. But not about being disappointed
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: that they didn't get to go on a date with
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: a woman or that, you know, whatever it is, right?
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: This is why men should just not listen to women,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: in my opinion. Like, just do you. But anyway, back
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: to this article.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: But does that apply to Lindsay, your wife?
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Well, Lindsay doesn't reject me, though. I listen to her.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: But I, yeah.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: I listen to her.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: If you don't reject men.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: She knows when she's being crazy. And it does happen sometimes. Well,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: she's pretty stolid, though.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's on the spectrum like the rest of you people. So,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: she's not like other.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Girls, literally.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: The contempt. No, I'm just kidding. The rest of you people.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: The rest of these people I have to deal with.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: God damn.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: I hear the pain in your voice.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I feel like I want to deserve an island. All right. Anyway.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: The island of the autists.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like autist island. New reality show is coming out.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: We're going to vote. We're going to vote Brian off.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: He's not one of us. All right.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Anyway.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: When you reject a man, you find out what he
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: actually thinks of you. You find out whether he sees
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: you as a person with your own autonomy, or as
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: someone who wronged him by not wanting him. And how
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: he treats you after that, no, after that no, tells
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: you everything. And you're probably thinking..
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do the switcheroo, Desiree. Right? You've gone to
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: coffee with your girlfriend... be like oh my god I've
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: written my new stalker porn book it's so awesome have
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: you bought your copy and your girlfriend's like no and
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: also uh we're no longer friends goodbye Desiree oh wait
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: wait wait no I can't say goodbye yet Desiree because
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: you gotta drive me home or I need a I
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: need a lift right do you Desiree do you have
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: the right to feel like your friend is a dick Now,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: you could say there's already an existing relationship, right? Because
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: this is interesting. Because this kind of situation is the
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: only situation where one person has to go up to
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: another person and be like, hey, would you like to
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: have a relationship? Usually that isn't the way friends start,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: friendships start. But still, when you reject someone socially, you've
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: rejected them socially. It's adding insult to injury. To expect
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: them to continue to extend themselves. And this is the thing.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: She is expecting a man to continue to extend his
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: resources to her. This isn't just like, okay, yeah, Nod,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: move on with your life. No, he's still obligated to her. Okay? Crazy.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: And he can't even have any feelings about it, I bet. Okay,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: let's keep going.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she writes stalker porn. So this is, like, it literally, like,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: contradicts her, what she writes about. Okay.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: And you're probably thinking, Desiree, no man has to stay
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: around you when you clearly don't want anything to do
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: with them. And I agree with you. But if you're
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: incapable of seeing a woman as a friend or as
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: someone worth having around, then you're someone I don't want
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: in my life. So why are you mad that they're
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: not in your life, then? This reminds me of, like,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: how women talk about MGTOW. how they like hate MGTOW
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: guys because they're just avoiding women, but they also don't
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: want anything to do with them, which kind of serves
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: MGTOW guys, like exactly what they want, you know? So
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: then they're not actually angry that MGTOW guys are not
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: around them. They're angry that MGTOW guys don't want to
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: be around them. They want men like the MGTOW guys
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: to want them so that they can reject them.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: That's what they want. Well, at least women like Desiree here.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: So..
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: And, yeah, so she doesn't want these men in her life. Well, okay,
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: they don't want you in their life.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but she's offended by that. See? That's what I'm saying.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, because..
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: That means that men are like, I don't want you
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: in my life.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: That means that they're not treating her as human. Yeah.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, after having supposedly the hundreds of
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: men who have... Approach Desiree. Out of the hundreds. And
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: she has rejected all of them. Because she only has eyes.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: For the fictional. Stalker man that she creates. But you
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: know like. But after they have been. Rejected by her.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: They cannot say. Okay fine. I only wanted you. Because
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: I thought we could have. A romantic. Sexual relationship. I
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: am not interested in having you around otherwise. And again,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: that's not bad, like Brian was saying. There's nothing wrong
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: with that. That's how the human race replicates itself. I
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: hate to tell you, lesbian separatists, but this is how
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: we do. And you can't blame men. um for and
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: the other thing is that why would a man want
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: to have a whole bunch of women who have rejected
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: him in his life like could you imagine that like
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: he finally gets a woman who's like yeah sure we
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: can go on a date and they get into a
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: relationship and she he's has an entire phone book of
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: women who rejected him who he has to continue to
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: keep like a low level of platonic attachment with like
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: To not be a bad man? Cut your losses. Start fresh.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure these women are not worth a friendship anyway.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean..
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: And maybe as a result of having been rejected by her,
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: he's realized that. He doesn't want her in his life.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Why would you want someone who's rejected you socially in
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: your life? Like, it's not just a non-starter here, and
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: it's not just like, oh, that's a free action that
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: has a consequence for somebody.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: And it could be that he would be fine with
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: being your friend if you hadn't rejected him socially. And
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: the thing is that men and women start these relationships
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: via the approach of So there's no way to, after
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: the rejection, there's nothing really to fall back on. I
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: don't know. It's just a whole bunch of hukum. Let's
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: keep going.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Hukum. It's hukum.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Hukum.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Hukum.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Hukum. Men who hate women can't accept being rejected by one.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: There's a difference between a man who's disappointed about rejection
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: and a man who hates women.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that he... I'm pretty sure they accepted it.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that... A man who hates women doesn't
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: want to date them. So he wouldn't approach them. I mean,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: There really is such a thing as a man who
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: hates women, but that's just me. Anyway, the disappointed man..
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the theoretical woman hater. Yeah, the theoretical woman hater.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: The mysterious unicorn... of the social landscape, the one entity
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: that seems to be so mysterious in his qualities. Because
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: the thing is that every time these people say, oh, hark,
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: a woman hater, you know, and you read, like, the
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: scroll script underneath the sketchy little, you know, like, illuminated
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: manuscript illustration of the man hater, and it's like, He
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: didn't drive me home after I rejected him. Lo, the man-hater.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Or the woman-hater. Right? He believes that women should also
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: be punished for sexual crimes. Lo, the woman-hater. Right? He
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: thinks that women should be conscripted, and or maybe we
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: should reconsider giving the vote to a group of people
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: who can't be conscripted. Lo, the woman-hater.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: It never seems to be that the entity that they
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: have identified really fits what they're trying to say it is.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Just saying. Okay, let's do some more.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: All right, I got a rumble rant from NovaFan for
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: a dollar. He says, stop ignoring me, ignoring you.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: The disappointed man feels sad, maybe a little bruised, but
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: he moves on. This is something she likes. She likes
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: the idea that there are men who approach and she's like,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: fuck you and then he goes okay and he walks
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: away doesn't really like make a stink out of it
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: that puts her in a position of power above above
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: him in the mind of the author i'm thinking the
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: man who hates women can't let it go he takes
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: it as a personal insult he takes it as proof
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: that something is wrong with you not with him and
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: some of them even try to make you regret your
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: rejection one time i rejected one guy and he spent
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: weeks trying to convince me i was making a mistake
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: He texts me about all the reasons I should reconsider.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: All the reasons I was being unfair to myself by
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: not giving him a chance.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: That's hatred?
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Stalker porn.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: That's weird hatred.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: That's a weird way to hate somebody is to like
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: call them and ask you to reconsider the offer. I'd
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: like to hate you in a more intimate setting, but
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: you keep turning me down. He couldn't accept that I
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: had simply looked at him and I decided I didn't
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: want to date him. That wasn't enough of a reason
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: for him. I was supposed to have a list of
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: logical explanations for why he wasn't good enough, and because
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: I didn't, he assumed I was being irrational or that
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I'd change my mind eventually. That's what men who hate
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: women do. They try to convince women to date them. That's...
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I can't believe that. I mean, I can believe it.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Stalker porn.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: This woman writes stalker porn. This woman writes stalker porn
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: and she writes this crap. And of course, when she
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: writes this crap, she's presenting this earnestly to her weak-minded
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: audience of feminist women. She's presenting this earnestly. Like, this
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: is the truth about the world. And like a bunch
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: of lemmings, they just are like, yes, yes, yes, yes,
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: go sister. But that's the problem. It's like, You know,
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: if she just wrote stalker porn, fine. You know, you
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: have your weird fantasy, right? I'm a liberal. I'm not
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: necessarily going to go down that aisle of the bookstore.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: But you do you. But it's more than that. She
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: is simultaneously writing stalker porn and insulting, undermining, and treating
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: with contempt the behavior of men. Who are just simply
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: trying to approach and start up a relationship with a woman. Meanwhile,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: she fantasizes about a man who does not take no
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: for an answer. But this dude, like, he... You know
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: what his crime is? He's actually real. Right? He's a
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: real human being. Okay? That's his crime. If he even exists.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Because I'm pretty sure that this is a friend of
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: a friend's.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: This could, yeah, it could just be her, like, I
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: don't know, coming up with some scenario in her mind, like,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: based on a book that she wrote. She's probably her
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: favorite writer. She's probably her own favorite writer.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: That's really sad because she's a terrible writer.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: It might be true.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I think everyone, like, who's on Medium sees themselves as, like,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: a hopeful amateur writer, novelist.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they all do.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. It comes from Tumblr.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: They all want to write. They all want to write novels.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: And the problem is that writing a novel is infinitely
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: more difficult than being a journalist. At least one that's
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: any good. Okay.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Which is also infinitely more difficult than being an opinion
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: piece writer.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: All right. Oh, yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So..
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: They can't accept that a woman has the right to
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: reject them for any reason at all or for no reason.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: They think rejection needs to be justified, needs to be earned,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: needs to be logical.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: But it doesn't.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: A woman can reject a man because she doesn't like
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: his shoes. She can reject him because something about him
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: feels off. She can reject him because she's not interested.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Those are all valid reasons, and they don't need to
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: be explained or defended.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they sort of do.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Can men also reject... taking you home if you reject
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: him for any reason.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Can a man like no no of course not not.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Pay for your drinks anymore or like leave you with
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: the tab at least your you know your half of
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: the tab if he's like can a man do that
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: or no of course not of course not because that's
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: treating them like a human being you have to treat
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: her like a human being she does not have to
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: treat you like one that's fairness We're just trying to
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: make up for all the oppression, guys.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: The historical oppression of women. Okay.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: So, but men who hate women don't see it that way.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: They see rejection as a challenge, as something they need
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: to overcome, as proof that the woman is wrong about herself.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: They think if they just try hard enough, if they
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: just convince her enough times, if they just prove themselves enough,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: she'll change her mind. They can't fathom that she has autonomy.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: That she has the right to make a decision about
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: her own life. That her no actually means no. Again,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: we're back at this weird place where men are... Men
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: who hate women are trying really hard to change a
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: woman's mind about dating them.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: And yet they hate them. Does anyone... How could she
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: possibly see this as in any way rational? I know.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: I know. I know what we're talking about here. I'm
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: a man.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: I have this thing where I look at cause and effect...
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: And I rationalize, and I guess that's just like a
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: rare thing, but it just doesn't make sense that someone
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: can say, the fact that you won't stop trying to
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: be with me is proof that you hate me.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, this is going to be difficult for you to understand.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: She writes stalker porn. I don't know what to say.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Why would you have this much of a problem with
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: normal human behavior in men? Because we're not talking about
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: men who leave a severed horse head in her bed.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: It's just a dude who's texted her a few more
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: times after she rejected him. The whole story about Obama...
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: courting Michelle and how persistent he was, and a lot
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: of people on the left will take that up and say, oh,
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: it's so romantic. Well, that's exactly this. Right? He texted
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: you a few times. He didn't even do as much
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: as Obama did.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: So what are you... And then you have the audacity
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: to say, oh, well, stalker porn. And it's like your
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: issues are very minor. And then also... A woman can
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: reject a man for any reason, which, yes, sure, whatever,
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: even if they're stupid, but they're still stupid reasons, lady.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: But a man can't not give a woman resources for
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: any reason that she wants. There was another point I
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: really wanted to get to, but I feel like the
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: desire to say it, but I no longer remember what
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: it was. Goddamn. This woman puts your brain into a
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: pretzel with her insanity. Let's read a bit more. All right.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Well, first I have a couple of super chats. I
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: have a super chat and a rubble rant.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: So Albatross gave us $ 5 and said, if men pursued
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: her even after the no, then he's too pushy and
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: a grapist.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Thank you for that, Albatross.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: And then NovaFan gives a dollar and says, if she
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: has an article encouraging men to pursue women, do a
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: this you moment where you switch between the two.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, we could, but..
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: I don't think she does.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: They don't... I don't think she does. They don't really
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: respond to contradictions. They don't care, so..
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: No, not really.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not really.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: So, the ones who get angry are even worse. They
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: take rejection as a personal attack. They get insulted that
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: you would dare say no to them. They feel disrespected.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Like you somehow wronged them by having boundaries. And instead
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: of dealing with their own hurt feelings, they try to
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: hurt you back. They insult your appearance. They question your intelligence.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: They suggest you'll regret the decision. They make a rejection
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: about punishment. Wow, it'd be nice if someone just said
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: something like that. Again, I'm not seeing hatred. I don't
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: really see where this is hatred.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, this is my point. This is my point.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Yes, men hate things, and they want to get closer
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: to the things that they hate and bring them into
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: their lives. Right? You know, like how white people hate
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: black people, and they don't want them in their... name
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: oh wait well but they want them in their neighborhoods
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: right you know um about how i don't know like
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: other groups hate other groups but they they constantly seeking
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: to be around them right and you know straight men
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: hate gay men that's why they want to be in
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: relationships with gay men like do they think this stuff
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: through That's what, in any other set of groups, would
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: we say that a group that wants to have more contact,
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: group A wants to have more contact with group B
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: because they hate them or that they hate them or
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: that hatred motivates them at all in relation to B.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: You don't, like.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: This just falls apart on its face.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Okay. All right. That's hatred.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: That's a man who doesn't see women as people with
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: their own agency. He sees them as objects that are
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: supposed to want him. And when they don't, something is broken.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Either the woman is broken for not recognizing his value,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: or she's being difficult, or she's making a mistake. But
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: she's definitely wrong. And he's definitely justified in being angry
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: I mean..
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: It's not really a looking for permission. Like sometimes things
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: just affect you and you have a feeling. Remember that
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: thing that you say men don't have?
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Sometimes they have them and they're not always positive. I
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: don't like, again, this is so manipulative on a fundamental
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: level because she would argue that men have to feel like,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: be able to feel like they can free themselves from
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: the man box by embracing their negative emotions and And
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: expressing them and crying and stuff. But not when I
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: turn them down.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Then they got to man up. Then it's time to
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: man up. And just like suck it up. And walk
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: off with dignity. And give me a ride home. And
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: pay for my car fare. And pay for my bill.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: And then I'll never talk to you again. But at
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: least you treated me like a human being. For the
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: low low price of you know. Five dollars a gallon
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: of gas.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: And.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: And whatever it costs to pay for my food and drinks. Anyway,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: this is why men, by the way, just like checking
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: out in droves right now. They're just not, they're not,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: they're not bothering because this attitude is not uncommon. People
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: might say this is rare or whatever. No, this is
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: not uncommon. This generation of women is like the worst.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: It's the worst generation ever. especially what their views on men,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: but also just their ability to adapt to reality. They're
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: the most separated from reality and they're the most hostile
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: towards men and the most entitled.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: So anyway, I'm sorry.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: And that, that bears out in the statistics on their, uh,
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: toxic hatred towards men and their sexual violence towards men.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: Like these, these are very unpleasant human beings as a,
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: as a group.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: Um, But I just wanted to say, like, exactly, Brian.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Why can't he just be a human being who had
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: a feeling? And he just got angry. Because you just
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: socially rejected him. Like, you would get angry if you
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: were socially rejected by your friend. Or another woman.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Or by a man that you thought that you deserved. Because, like,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: I see this with women, too. Like, the same women
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: will say, you know, I... I remember, I told this
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: story before, but I knew a girl, very hardcore feminist.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: I wasn't friends with her. She had a really bad attitude,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: but she was also like, and I mean like she wasn't,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: she had a bad attitude and she was unattractive, like
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: really unattractive.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: And she had this crush.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: On some like guy that was like in a band
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: with like washboard abs and And because he never gave
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: her the time of day, she resented him for it. Like,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: I was like, why do you think you deserve that?
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Why on earth do you think that that's for you? Like,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: why can't you work on yourself and then, like, stay
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: in your lane? You know, there's plenty of guys that are, like,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: in your lane, but you don't like those guys, right?
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: You're looking at this guy that's completely out of reach.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: He's like fucking Tyler Durden from Fight Club. He was like,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: you know, he was a Chad, basically. And He wasn't
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: mean to her, but he didn't have an interest in her.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Obviously. Why would he? He's got, you know, but I wouldn't,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: I don't think she hates him.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: She, she's got, she's become bitter towards men in general
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: because she thinks because that guy in her opinion was
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: being shallow.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: So she thinks men are shallow because.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: That guy is like the, he's like the, um, almost
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: like the avatar of men, you know?
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: So the way he acts, it's all that she sees
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: is like his reality. So anyway.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, it happens the other way. And again, I
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: don't think that that guy would have said, well, that
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: that woman is proof that there are women who hate
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: men because I rejected them and they treat me like
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: an object. No, he probably would have been like, well, dude,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: have you seen her? I know I'm looking at this
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: chick over here, you know.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Anyway.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: And she's got a bad attitude, too. Like if she
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: wasn't such a kind of a shitty person. she could
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: probably find somebody a little bit above her level. But
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: she was not just unattractive, but she was mean and
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: bitter and angry and cynical and nihilistic.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: So, what's that? Like, that's not good. Those aren't good traits. Anyway.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: And that terrifies men who hate women because their entire
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: worldview is built on the idea that women exist for
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: them and that women should want them. that women's job
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: is to make men feel good about themselves. A rejection
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: shatters that worldview. So instead of accepting it, they fight it.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: They rage against it. They try to punish the woman
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: for daring to have her own mind. Yeah, because men,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: when men get mad, it's like they're trying to control you.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Is that like, oh, that's a woman.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: Thing, right?
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Where if a man says, you know, I don't, like
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: I really don't, how do I put it? I don't
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: fuck with you, whatever. I don't vibe with you. And
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: that's the extent of it. I don't want to hurt you.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: I don't want to take anything from you. I don't like,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: you know, wish ill will on you. I just don't
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: want to associate with you. And she will see that as,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: what is the phrase, how she put it? As punishment.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: You are punishing me for having my own mind. No, actually,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: I'm respecting that because I've made a decision about whether
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: or not I want to associate with somebody like you.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: And you have shown me that I don't, so I'm
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: not going to see ya. And she's like, that's disrespectful.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: What do you want? You want them to follow you
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: around like a puppy dog. That's what you want.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: You want them to hang around in case you feel
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: like rejecting them for whatever reason.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: Some more.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: So, yeah. Um, okay. Yeah. So, should I keep going
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: or do you want to say something to that?
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just keep going. Let's try to.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: Finish it off, and then we'll do the repo. I'm
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: doing it this way because there are some people who
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: are just here for the actual article.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. All right.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: Don't waste your time on a man who punishes you
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: for rejection. When I was younger, I felt guilty rejecting
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: men because I didn't want them to get mad for
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: my rejection.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: If a guy... Well, I mean... Whatever.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: If a guy was genuinely nice, if he seemed like
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: a good person, if he didn't do anything wrong except
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: not be the one I wanted, I felt obligated to
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: soften the blow.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: I tried to be gentle about it. I'd keep him around.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: I'd convince myself that maybe I was being too harsh,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: that maybe I should give him a chance. I didn't
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: want to hurt him.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: Well, wait a second. You'd keep him around, so you'd
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: reject him and you'd keep him around, but if he
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: doesn't stay around, he's a bad man.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: So, if he doesn't, like... If he leaves, he's bad.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: But you... You think keeping him around... Okay. Alright. So,
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: Joe Blow comes up to Desiree. The gorgeous. The siren. Right?
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: The modern-day Helen of Troy.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: Plus Cleopatra, except Cleopatra apparently was more attractive because of
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: her personality. All right. So I don't know if Desiree
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: really qualifies there. So the gorgeous Desiree, Joe Blow comes
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: up to her and says, hey, are you interested in
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: having a coffee with me? And Desiree is like, no.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: Can't you see I'm a ravishing, ageless beauty that could
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: never be shackled to a protoplasm like you? And then
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: Joe Blow is supposed to do what?
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: And Desiree's like, I'm just going to keep you around
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: because I am such a kind woman. Right? But she
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: felt obligated to keep him around because she didn't want
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: to be mean. Right? But he is obligated to stay
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: around because otherwise he's a bad man. Do you get
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying? Do you see that here? She's arguing
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: she shouldn't be obligated to keep him around because otherwise
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: it would be mean. But he is obligated to keep
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: her around even after she's rejected him because otherwise he
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: hates women, which is another word for the non-human people
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: that probably should be shot and rolled into a ditch.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: Get what I'm saying?
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: I do, yeah.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: I was kind of like, I was clawing at that
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: earlier in the conversation.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: And everything just revolves around absolute, complete lack of understanding
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: that men are people too. Okay, let's get some more
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: paragraphs through.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so next section. Don't waste your time on a
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: man who punishes you for rejection. Oh, I already read
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: that part.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you read the two paragraphs.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: So I'd be soft with my rejection. I'd give him
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: hope by staying in contact. I'd apologize for not feeling
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: the same way, like my feelings were something I should
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: apologize for.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: And almost every single time, those men punished me for it.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Like how?
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: How did they punish you? They'd make comments about how
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: unfair I was being. They'd tell me I was missing
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: out on a good thing. They'd keep trying to convince
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: me to change my mind to give them a shot
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: to reconsider.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: Oh my god. Okay, stop. Okay, stop. Sometimes... Sometimes I
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: look too... I look too directly at woman brain. Which
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: is sort of like looking too directly at the sun.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: If you do it for too long, you will go blind.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: I'm just going to point out what's making me go
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: blind here. What's making me go, okay, I'd give him
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: hope by staying in contact. So you literally know what
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: you're doing here, lady. You know that you are giving
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: him hope that you might change your mind. And then
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: your next paragraph has, they keep trying to convince me
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: to change my mind, to give them a shot, to reconsider.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: Basically, what you want to do is because you want
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: to feel like a good person, which you might as
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: well just drop that because you're not, or you want
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: to signal that you're a good person, which, again, you
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: probably should just drop it because you're not. Because of that,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: you would give men the sense that maybe if they
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: just put a little more elbow grease into it, you
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: would say no, and then you discovered that men... as
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: a result of you giving them hope, would keep trying.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: Do you see what I'm seeing here, Brian?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, no, it's a trap.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: Do you see?
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: It's a trap.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: It's a trap. She does not understand causality.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: No, she doesn't understand, yeah, causality.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, next. Do you want me to do it?
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: No, I got it.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: They'd make me feel guilty for not wanting them. And
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: the worst part was that I let them do it
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: because I felt like I owed them something for being nice.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: Why do men owe you anything after you've rejected them?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I said at the beginning.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: You owed them something for being nice. When I was younger,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: I felt guilty for rejecting men because I didn't want
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: them to get mad for my rejection. You felt guilty
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: because you thought men would get mad. You felt guilty
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: because the men were nice to you. And then you
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: would lead them on and they would continue to... Because
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: there's a difference between lightly rejecting someone and making them
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: think that it's possible they have a chance. Can I
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: just read a paragraph?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: But I didn't owe them anything. A man being nice
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: doesn't entitle him to my time, my attention, or my
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: romantic interest. Your rejection is not an invitation to negotiate.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: It's not an opening for him to convince you otherwise.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: It's a decision, and it's final. And yet, after having
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: rejected a man, she is entitled to his continued attention
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: and resources. Funny how that works, huh? The problem was
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: that I didn't understand this when I was younger. I
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: thought if the man was good enough, if he was
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: kind enough, if he tried hard enough, that I should
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: want him. Okay, then why didn't you? I thought rejecting
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: him was me being picky or unfair, so I'd keep
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: him around out of pity. And he'd interpret that as hope.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: He'd think that I was just playing hard to get,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: and that if he was persistent enough, I'd change my mind.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: So you literally gave him hope, and he acted like
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: he had hope. And this is you saying, oh, men
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: punished me for responding to my signals and in the
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: way that I was delivering them or the information that
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: I was delivering with my signals. This is a lot
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: of woman mind. I feel like I'm getting spots in
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: my vision from looking this directly at the epicenter of
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: female thinking.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Well, there's like this thing where she says, let me
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: see if I can go back. She says that he
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: made her feel as though she owed him. He didn't
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: say that she owed him. According to her, she felt
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: as though she owed him, but she blamed him for
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: making her feel that way. He didn't actually do it.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: She just felt that way. This is the thing, like,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: I've noticed over and over with the way that women
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: like this communicate or the way that they see the world.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: It's like if they feel a feeling, somebody else put
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: it there if they didn't want to feel it. And
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: so it's his fault for making her feel that way.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Even if he didn't say you owe me, like it
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter if he just acts hurt, then she's going
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: to feel like bad about it. And you know, Yeah,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: rejecting people, hurting people hurts.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, a little bit. I assume it hurts them
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: more than it hurts you. But it can be uncomfortable.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: It can be awkward.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: But she's blaming him for her feelings. It's like a
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: woman having a dream that she fought with you. And
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: then she wakes up and starts a fight with you.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Because she dreamt about it.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: This is one woman trying to... battle the fact that
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: men exist as separate human beings and have their own
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: feelings and thoughts. Like she's just traumatized by the fact
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: that men exist as human beings. It's like, I can't
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: believe it. All right.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: You want to just skip some paragraphs? Cause this is all.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, she just keeps on going on and on.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: This is long.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: Maybe the next paragraph.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: Maybe the next couple of paragraphs. I will, I will
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: keep quiet.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: All right, so notice if he blames you for his
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: own hurt feelings. If he gets rejected and immediately starts
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: telling you that you hurt him, that you're being mean,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: that you don't understand what you're giving up, he's making
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: his emotions your responsibility. He's saying that your right to
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: say no is less important than his right not to
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: feel bad about it.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: And that's not okay. Wait, what?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: You know, women really need to stop this. Men having
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: an emotion doesn't mean he's making you responsible for it.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: And how are men supposed to express their emotions if
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: every time they express their emotions, a woman is being
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: forced to do emotional labor? I swear to, like, our
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: entire society is poisoned by the fact that feminism basically
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: is just teaching men, women, to feel resentment towards men
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: and then just try to justify it in whatever way
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: that they can.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: I got a super chat from Aura Karina.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: For $ 5?
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: And Aura says, Schrodinger's feminist.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: I'm a strong, independent, and empowered woman, yet also I'm
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: completely oppressed and powerless at the same exact time.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: LMAO. This is like a new person, so thank you
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: for that.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: And also Schrodinger's male approach.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: Simultaneously... Consented to and also can't possibly be consented to
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: because you haven't approached yet to know if she wants
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: to be approached. So you just got to superimpose your wave, guys,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: and that'll do it. That'll finally satisfy women.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: Super imposition. You got to get quantum max. All right. Yep.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: Am I reading the next paragraph? Stop trying to soften
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: rejection to protect his ego. Your job isn't to make
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: rejection easy for him. Your job isn't to cushion the
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: blow or make him feel better about being rejected. Your
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: job is to be honest about what you want, and
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: if what you want doesn't include him, that's the end
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: of the conversation. Unless, of course, you need a ride home.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: You don't owe him gentleness. You don't owe him an
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: easy letdown. You owe him honesty and respect, and that's it.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: But also, he owes you a ride, and you.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Should pay for the date.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: Whatever else you want.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: And whatever else. Yeah, whatever else she needed at the moment,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: you deserve that. Remember, that's the premise that this whole
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: thing started off from, was a scene in a movie.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: That's where all of this spawned from. It's worse than
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: having a dream about somebody and then fighting with them after.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: It's watching a movie involving completely fabricated characters, seeing..
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: Some men react to something that happened in the movie, which,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: by the way, I would have reacted the same way. Um,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: and then, like, going and saying, I gotta write a
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: blog about this. I gotta go home, I gotta open
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: up my laptop, and I gotta write up a blog
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: on my medium and shit on men for, like, however
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: long it takes me to write this.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, anyway.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: Instead of improving my craft as a novelist.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: Which, you know, you really need to do, Desiree. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: you do. Because your writing is shit.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: I learned this the hard way.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: I learned it by wasting years on men who punished
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: me for my boundaries, who made me feel guilty for
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: my own feelings, who turned my kindness into their evidence
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: that I was playing games.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: And eventually I stopped. I stopped apologizing for my rejection.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: I stopped keeping men around out of pity. I stopped
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: trying to soften the blow by staying in contact or
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: being nice about it.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: Now when I reject a man..
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead. Yet when you reject men, they're still obligated...
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: to staying whatever contact that you want and provide whatever
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: resources that you want.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Well, she wants men around for, to be the, her
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: emotional pillow too, by the way. Like there's like, you know,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: you got to keep those orbiters around so that like when,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: you know, you get done wrong by some guy that
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: you've been pining after and he basically just treats you
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: as like a hit it and quit it. You have
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: like guys that are just like hangers on that are
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: willing to hear, listen to you and let you cry
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: on their shoulder and, Um, but they better not get
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: any funny ideas like asking you to on a date
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: cause that's entitlement.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: Also, are you free tonight?
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: I need to cry because, uh, you know, Tyrone Pookie,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: he like left me smoking on the bed and I
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: haven't heard from him in, in 10 minutes since he left. Anyway, not,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I want, what I want to see is
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: men basically, uh, Not put up with this at all.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: Be very discerning when it comes to women, obviously. Don't
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: even give your time to people like this. If they
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: have an ick list or something, stay away. If they're
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: on social media, stay away. Find a chick that lives
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: in the bush somewhere, like off the grid. Maybe somebody
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: who started their own moonshine company in the South Appalachian
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: South area where there's no Wi-Fi. That's where you find
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: a woman at this point. If they're on social media,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: they're likely poisoned. But anyway, now when I reject a man,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: I'm clear and I'm direct. I don't apologize. I don't
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: give false hope. I don't stay in contact to spare
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: his feelings. And the men who are worth my time
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: accept that. The men who aren't, the ones who punish
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: me for saying no, they don't get any more of my.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Energy or my time.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, so basically..
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: Then why are you mad about that?
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: She never talks about who she actually accepts. And the
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: men who are worth my time accept that. So you
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: don't stay in contact with them, but those men are
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: worth her time. She just doesn't give it, guys.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: Yep. Don't waste time on these men either.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine... Can you imagine a bunch of these
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: things trying to create a society?
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: A bunch of women like this? Oh, no, no, no.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: We'd be living in mud huts. Maybe.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: Probably not even that.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: We'd be wandering with nomads. We'd just be preyed upon
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: by wild animals. No way to defend ourselves. We'd die
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: of dysentery.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: Or we would go the way that one..
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: That one culture, I don't know, like America, one of
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: the Americas, like old culture, some kind of female priest culture,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: and it ended in civil war and cannibalism.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: Desiree would, women like this, end the world in civil
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: war and cannibalism. Just chaotic violence. Okay, let's keep going.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: Don't waste time on those men either.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: The moment he starts making your rejection about him, the
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: moment he blames you for hurting him, the moment he
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: tries to negotiate your no into a maybe, remove him.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: You don't need that in your life. Wait, if you
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: rejected him and he's hurt by that, did you not
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: cause the hurt?
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: Do you want to.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Accept the fact that you could reject somebody and you're
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: perfectly justified in rejecting people? But that that could also
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: hurt people's feelings. Like, you want to be able to
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: do whatever you want and never have to hear about
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: how other people feel about it.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: It would seem.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: Well, men, anyway. That's what I'm saying. She's in, like,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: some kind of death battle with the reality that men
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: have feelings and are human beings.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: Right? They're not just perfect stalker bots.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: I bet she's single. But anyway. All right, should I
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: get the next section?
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: I would be terrified for the man that ends up
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: with this.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: I think she is, but I don't know. I could
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: probably check. I'll keep going. There's a bit more.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: No, no, I could check because I got this. I
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: worked on creating this Claude database of Medium articles.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: And now I can do searches on them. and uh
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: it's um yeah it's interesting okay keep keep going.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: All right the spider-man protagonist did the right thing who's
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: the protagonist of spider-man guys why is she wording it
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: this way the spider-man protagonist uh are you talking about
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: spider-man by any chance was it possible that spider-man is
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: the protagonist of the spider-man movie that you watched the
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: spider-man protagonist did the right thing He respected the girl's rejection.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: I think I know which girl. And he treated her
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: with dignity anyway.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: And for that, men on Twitter called him weak, called
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: him pathetic, said they would have abandoned her or pushed
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: her or made her regret saying no. Well, to be fair,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Peter Parker is kind of a beta.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, kind of a... Not a beta. Like,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: more like a... He's definitely on the softer side. I'll
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: just put it that way. But that's his lot in life.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: He's supposed to be a guy who deals with a
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: lot of problems.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: That's what makes him appealing. Yeah, Miles Morales. It could be. No,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: it's not.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: That tells you everything you need to know about which
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: men hate women and which ones don't. A man who
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: hates women can't accept rejection because rejection means admitting that
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: a woman has autonomy, has a right to say no,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: has power over her own life. And that terrifies him.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: That's a bit of a strong statement. I don't think
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: men are terrified.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think men care.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think there are men who are disappointed,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: but I don't think that I mean, I would probably
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: I would I would tell men to stay away from
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: women like this anyway. But I know there's there's a
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: there's a thirsty dude born every minute. And that's that's
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: a whole other issue.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: But yeah.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because rejection means admitting that a woman hasn't taught him.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: If, okay, Desiree, you're a little slow, but the fact
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: that a man walks up to a woman and says,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: would you like, and not just grabs her and flings
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: her under her arm and throws her in the back
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: of his pickup truck. means that men are aware that
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: women have autonomy. Like, she's making this massive over-claim. A
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: man who hates women can't accept rejection because rejection means
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: admitting that a woman is autonomy.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: No!
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: Why would he ask you if he didn't realize you
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: had autonomy? He has the right to say no, has
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: power over our own life. Okay, when you said no,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: did he kidnap you?
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: Then he's respecting your autonomy. He may be expressing his
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: emotions about your autonomy, but he's respecting it. Like, what
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: the heck are these women about? Like, yeah, okay, I
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: gave him false hope, and he kept trying to convince
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: me to date him. Well, okay, what did you expect? Oh,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: he got upset that I rejected him. Well, you socially
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: rejected him. What do you expect?
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: None of this stuff matters. He got upset. He had
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: a feeling.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: So what?
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: Okay? Men are allowed to have feelings. And they're allowed
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: to make you feel bad. Ladies, I would hope that
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: at least a few times in your life, you are
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: made to feel bad by how you treat a man.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: And that is not his fault. It is more likely
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: to be your fault.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: And if we are going to continue to have the
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: Western form of family formation, which involves men approaching women, okay,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: we're going to continue to have that. And get this,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: this problem will be solved. Like the problem of the
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: West not being able to form families and have children,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: it will be solved one way or another. Okay, so
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: the future will be some form of pair bonding that works.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: So what we're really looking at here and now, Desiree,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: is whether or not there's a future to women having
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: a say, right? And if this particular form of relationship
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: formation does not result in replacement level reproduction it is
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: going to go the way of the dodo and then
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: we are going to go back to or we are
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: going to have to diversify into kin selection where your
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: grandma tells you who you marry or we're going to
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: have to do matchmaker selection with heavy social expectation like
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: like really heavy social expectation for people to marry and
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: we're not going to have any more fun Ladies are
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: not going to enjoy being approached by men and feeling desirable.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: You're not going to enjoy that anymore. You're not going
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: to enjoy your workplace romances. And most likely the societies
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: that result are not going to let you have monster
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: porn or stalker porn. You're going to lose all of that.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: And you're going to lose it simply because you don't
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: value what men are doing. You don't have to, you
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: do not have to say yes. But you have to
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: realize that men are human beings and when they're socially rejected,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: they feel anger, they feel sadness. And you should feel guilty.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: Because it's a human interaction. And those emotions mean you're
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: not fucking sociopaths. So yeah.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: Congratulations.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, congratulations.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: And maybe the guilt will make you consider not saying no.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: Like if he is a good guy, maybe you could
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: not say no. It's like these women don't want to
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: have any freaking human constraints upon themselves. They want to
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: live as devils. Like as freaking Stasi or SS. Like just,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: you know, raping and pillaging. Oh, we're not free. We're
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: being suppressed by the patriarchy if we're not allowed to
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: rape and pillage at will. It's like, why do you
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: want to do these things? Why do you not want
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: to feel guilt when you hurt someone's feelings? Huh? Why
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: do you want to be okay with rejecting men?
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: Huh?
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: Why do you want to push it back on men
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: if they have a feeling about being socially rejected? Do
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: you realize what, not just what you are wanting to become,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: basically a sociopath, what do you think the kind of
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: men don't care about being rejected by you? You're like,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: you're having this long little dissertation about how awful men
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: are for giving a crap about your opinion of them.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: So what do you want? You want men who don't
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: give a crap about your opinion of them? Are you sure? Right?
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: Because you still want the men just to hang around.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: They're supposed to give a crap about your opinion, but
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: not in such a way that it creates any kind
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: of negative emotion. Only an obligation to you. Yeah. I
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: don't know what to say. But this... If this is
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: female nature, I don't know how women evolved. I..
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: Like, how did they not get killed? Like, the first
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: leopard attack.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: Well, how much of this is actually, like, just, I
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: don't know, ramped up for the audience? Like, maybe she
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: doesn't actually believe this stuff, but she thinks.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: It's... She's trying to manufacture a customer base for her
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: stalker porn.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: She does write stalker porn. Alright, so..
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: Instead of accepting it, he punishes her. He makes her
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: feel guilty. He blames her for hurting him. He tries
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: to negotiate his way back in. He makes comments across
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: the line, from disappointment to cruelty. What kind of comments? Like,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't, you're not that hot anyway kind of comments?
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: But you don't have to accept that. You don't have
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: to waste your time on a man who punishes you
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: for your boundaries. Your rejection is not an invitation for
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: him to convince you otherwise. It's not a challenge for
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: him to overcome. It's not something you need to apologize
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: for or soften or explain. It's a no, and that's enough.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: So the next time you reject her.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: But apparently it's not enough for him to decide that
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: he's just not interested in you and just move on
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: with his life, though.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: He just has to keep her still in the, or
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: allow her to keep him in orbit.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: Assuming this is true, if she gets enough rejection, like
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: if enough men just say, fuck it, I'm not talking
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: to her, she's going to be like singing a different tune.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how old she is. I
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: haven't looked into it, but the walls come in if
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: it isn't already here. And yeah, I mean, look, if
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: you can be on your own, then bully for you.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: But I have a feeling this woman's not one of
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: those people. I think that this, you know, the lady
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: doth protest too much.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: So the next time you reject a man, watch how
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: he responds. Does he accept it and move on? Does
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: he respect your decision even though he's disappointed? Or does
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: he punish you for it? Does he make you feel guilty?
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: Does he try to negotiate? Does he blame you for
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: his hurt feelings? The way he responds will tell you
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: exactly who he is. And if he's the kind of
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: man who can't handle being told no without making you
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: suffer for it, don't waste another second on him. You
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: deserve a man who respects you enough to accept your
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: rejection gracefully. Wait, you deserve a man... That you can reject.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: And they won't be upset. Those are so specific. You
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: deserve a man who respects you enough to accept your rejection.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: How do you deserve someone you don't want? Anyway, you
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: deserve someone who can handle disappointment without turning it into
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: your problem. You deserve someone who sees you as a
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: full human being even after you said no.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: Don't settle for less.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: Wait, what? You've rejected him. Don't settle for less. You
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: have no claim on this man. What the fuck is
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: this insanity? I think she doesn't understand the nature of
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: human interactions. Don't settle for less than a man you reject.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: There's something here. There's something... It's like a thought trying
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: to burst out like a frickin' alien chestburster. It's just like...
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: I know that there's... There's some traction in this logic.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: There's something she's trying to get to, but... You deserve... Ladies,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: from the men you reject, you deserve better.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: So..
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: Even... It's not even the top 5% that women will accept.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: They deserve the top 5% to reject. Do you see
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: what I'm seeing, Brian? It's not even top 5% for
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: acceptance anymore, guys. You shouldn't even you're not even you're
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: not even available. You're not you shouldn't even be considered
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: for rejection unless you're in the top five percent. Even
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: the men who who who put themselves out to be rejected.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: You know, you shouldn't even be like you shouldn't even
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: you need to be at least in the top 20 percent, guys. Right.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: Get good scrubs so that you even get the privilege
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: of being rejected by this woman. And the other thing
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: is that how do you determine the men that you reject?
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: That's not determined by you, lady. That's determined by whatever
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: men still approach you. Like, that's not up to you. Okay,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: let's finish this off. I think we're pretty close.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: No, that's it. I'm done. That's the end.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: That's the end?
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the end of the article.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: That insanity was the end.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well, no.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: It always ends the same way. It's like this, you know,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: you're a woman. You're strong.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: Say no. They can't make you do anything. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: Stuff like that, you know. It's supposed to, like, leave you,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: All right, so I've compared this article to the Conformity
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: to masculine norms, corpus, and what those people say men
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: should do. They're feminists, of course. And in addition to
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: renunciating masculinity, they want men to express their feelings. So
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: I compared this specimen to that. The article's past condition
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: decomposes into four requirements. Feel the disappointment, men. Do not
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: report it to her. Do not withdraw. Keep supplying presents
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: with the return removed. She permits the stadness explicitly. The
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: good man is bruised and moved on. She forbids its expression.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: A man who says he's hurt is making his emotions
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: her responsibility. And she forbids the exit because leaving proves
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: he never cared. Two conformity for masculine norm indexes subscales
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: score exactly that profile as pathology. Emotional control mean items
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: measure whether or not a man bears feeling without disclosing it.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: Self-reliance items measure whether he declines to make his distress
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: another person's problem. High scores on both of the fields
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: account of why men die. No disclosure, no help-seeking, and
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: the health literature attaches mortality to it. Incorrectly. The article
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: requires both as the entry ticket to not being classified
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: as a woman-hater. So she wants to reject men but
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: still be able to judge them and have them affected
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: and try to live up to her judgments. You notice that, Brian?
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I was muted. Yeah, I noticed that.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like she wants to be in a position of
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: rejecting men but still have them care about her opinion.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: That's it. So the man who discloses his pain over
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: being rejected is an entitled manipulator offloading his feelings onto her.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: The man who does not disclose in the field, so
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: in the psychology of men and masculinity's field, is the
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: pathology that they say is why he killed himself. Same behavior,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: same man, same decade of opposite verdicts, no configuration clears both. First,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: silent absorption of unreturned cost is the giver's signature, not
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: the dominator's. She is demanding the custodial disposition and naming
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: its absence hatred. From a man, she is told there
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: is no bond and no return. Second, the requirement is
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: self-defeating inside her own corpus. Staying in her life after refusal,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: continuing to supply, is precisely what Artifact 1 codes its
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: unconsented approach. Passing Article 8 puts him in continuous violation
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: of Article 1. These are the Desiree articles of male existence,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: by the way, guys. each detailed by the articles that
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: she publishes on Medium. In case you were ever, you know,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: wanting to live up to Desiree's expectations of a man, don't,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 3: please don't, please, that's a joke, please do not. Across
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: the courtship interval, he supplies attention, time, effort, exposure to refusal,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: usually logistics and money. She supplies acceptance of the attention.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: And at the moment of refusal, the net flow has
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: run towards her. She refuses. He has nothing. She withdraws.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: Nothing further moves in either direction. Her reading of that
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: withdrawal is that he is getting something out of her
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: and that she became useless to him. The accusation requires
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: an object and the article never names one because the
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: only candidate is the thing he asked for and did
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: not receive. What is being called extraction is a man
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: wanting a return on investment already made, and the withdrawal
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: of an unreciprocated supply is being called a taking. This
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: is the relabeling mechanism applied to the credential itself. Provision
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: is the credential because the extractor does not pay in advance.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: Paying first is the costly signal that distinguishes the giver
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: from the predator. Here, the fact of having paid first
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: is converted into evidence of extractive intent. So because men
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: pay first, because, you know, it's a courtship, and then
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: they stop paying when the woman socially rejects them, obviously
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: they always intended to extract something from her. not just
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: wanted to set up a reciprocal relationship, which is the
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: basis of a marriage, and eventually producing little humans. All right,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: what is left? What left her possession? What left Desiree's
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: possession when she rejected this man and he didn't hover
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: around her? not getting close enough for her to feel
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: like her rejection hadn't taken, but not going so far
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: that she felt like he might have rejected her. Nothing transferred.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: No transfer, no loss, no checkable event. He kept contacting
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: her after she said stop, insulted and threatened her. What happened?
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: Contacts occurred on record after a stated refusal. Okay, so
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: if he does do what she wants and somehow stays
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: in contact He violates the other rule that he's supposed
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: to stay rejected. It's almost like she wants to be
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: able to reject a man, but have him be unhappy
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: about it because that means that he still wanted to
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: continue to have her attention, but not have him be
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: unhappy in a way where she recognizes he's unhappy and
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: could possibly feel guilty about about her actions making her unhappy,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: and stay rejected but also available if she wants to
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: extract any material benefit from him. This is why men
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: are exhausted. You know, this is why I keep hearing
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: about guys who are saying, you know, I look at
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: the dating realm and I could go out and try
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: to get a date, but it's exhausting. This is exhausting.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: Yep. So... Okay.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know what to say.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me neither.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I asked Punished Claude, why should the man
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: stay after being rejected by Desiree? This is what Punished
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: Claude said.
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  Speaker 2: What did he say?
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: He shouldn't. And the article can't say why he should.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: It never supplies a reason, only a sanction. What's being
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: asked for is continued presence, sustained attention. By the way, guys,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: punished Claude is MGTOW.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: How the hell did that happen? Emotional restraint and silent
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: absorption of unreturned cost. That set is the custodial disposition.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: Its normal licensing condition is a bond withstanding. You eat
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: the cost quietly for your own people and the return
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: is the bond. The refusal removes exactly that condition. She
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: takes away the consideration and keeps the demand. What's left
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: isn't friendship, which is reciprocal. It's a subscription. Enforcement is
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: an argument. It's a category change. Decline and you're a
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: man who hates women. That's what converts a preference into
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: an obligation, and it's necessary precisely because the reason can't
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: be stated. Any reason would have to name a return,
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: and naming a return concedes that a man's investment purchases something. No,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: it doesn't purchase something. It's like... If you put this
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: into a situation where it's a relationship between a man
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 3: or two women, you understand if one party is always
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: giving and the other party is always taking, that's not
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: a relationship. So it's not that a man is trying
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: to purchase something. It's that he wants a relationship. You know,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: like a mutual relationship where you do something and the
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: other person does something for you and you do something
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: for them. And then you build like a sense of
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: shared destiny and mutual affection. The keystone requires no mail
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: input ever register as a credit, so the justification slot
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: has to stay empty and the sanction fills it. And
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: the article convicts itself on its own middle section. She
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: describes arriving at exactly his position. Stop keeping men around
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: out of pity. Stop staying in contact. Doesn't apologize. Doesn't
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: give false hope. Doesn't stay in touch. Despairs feelings. Narrated
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: his clarity and growth. One behavior, ending contact after refusal,
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: scored his hatred when he does it and self-respect when
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: she does it. In one document with no distinguishing condition
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: offered anywhere. All right.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: And also when Nadine, which is her female stalker love interest,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 3: decides against... Well, Nadine is the female hero in her
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: stalker porn.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: Sandler is the supposedly more decent guy. And Nadine rules
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: him out for the following. He was clumsy, too clueless
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: with his displays of love, never minded admitting that he
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: was a fan of Nadine.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: So he he respect her too much. Fable master is analytical, careful,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: no traces, no fingerprints, disposable phones. The novel states the
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: discriminator in the hero's own analytical voice and it is concealment. Open,
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: costly investment marks the man who can get caught. Concealed
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 3: investment marks the one who is wanted. Sander, which is
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: the nice guy versus the stalker that the woman ends up,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: occupies the passing profile for exactly one scene, the interview,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: where he tells Jacob he stepped back without bitterness, and
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: Jacob's narration says Sander was a better man than I.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: He leaves the plot at that line, okay? So, basically,
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: the man that Nadine, her stalker porn heroine, did not choose,
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: and the reason why she didn't choose him was because
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: he was too available. He was rejectable. Literally, the stalker
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: made himself unrejectable. I want you to understand how terrifying
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: this woman is. What she desires is a man who
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: is unrejectable. yes not that he doesn't take no for
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 3: an answer he constructs a world in which she cannot
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: say no because this is more than just stalking like
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: she's literally reconstructed the world so he she cannot say
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: no that she cannot reject because that means she's liberated
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: of the burden of accepting and And this is the
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: fucked up situation women like this are in. They can't
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: accept a man, no matter how much they want him,
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: because the site, you know, heterosexuality is the site of
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: female oppression. That means self-annihilation. So they construct stalker porn
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: in which a man, their preferred man, constructs a reality
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: in which they cannot reject, which means they never accept it.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: And that's the real psychological problem. These women don't know
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 3: their own minds. They don't know what they want. They
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 3: can't stand in whatever it is they decide. They're terrified
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 3: that somehow if they accept a man, it means self-annihilation,
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 3: which is why this woman has written multiple articles about
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: an obstacle course that no man living or dead, maybe dead,
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: maybe if he's a ghost, maybe there's sexy monster ghost porn, right,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: can get through. Why? Yeah. Because she cannot handle accepting
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: a man. She cannot handle choosing a man. And why
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: can't she handle choosing a man? Because she's weak-minded, and
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: she has completely invested in this notion that that is self-annihilation.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 3: Because the sisterhood told her so. Let's play some Rotary Books.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's play some Repo.