Latest / Movie Meltdown / 181: She's a Firecracker
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- 0:56Speaker 6: To your sentinels, we have a rebound.
- 0:59Speaker 4: But you're not more than one generation from poor Wyatt Trash,
- 1:02Speaker 4: are you, Agent Starling?
- 1:04Speaker 7: And that accent you've tried so desperately.
- 1:06Speaker 1: To shed, pure West Virginia.
- 1:09Speaker 8: What is your fatherly, is he a coal miner, does
- 1:12Speaker 8: he stink of all that?
- 1:32Speaker 1: Hi, this is Martha Stevens, and you are listening to
- 1:35Speaker 1: Movie Meltdown.
- 1:49Speaker 9: Looks like I'm running late again As the wind tips
- 1:54Speaker 9: all concrete Keep the beat Always somewhere to go Nowhere
- 2:01Speaker 9: to be I'm looking for my flyover stick Those backyards
- 2:10Speaker 9: and great lakes I gotta take it easy now Kentucky, Missouri, Illinois,
- 2:25Speaker 9: Ohio The red ones, the.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Blue ones, the places that I know.
- 2:32Speaker 10: Look up the way.
- 2:34Speaker 9: You've gone, the way you've been and away from I'm
- 2:36Speaker 9: in a flower stand I've found I'm in a flower
- 2:42Speaker 9: stand I'm.
- 2:43Speaker 10: Proud What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
- 2:46Speaker 2: I'm Lucy.
- 2:47Speaker 10: And this week we are coming to you live via
- 2:50Speaker 10: digital recording. From Dreamland Film Center here in Louisville, the
- 2:53Speaker 10: home of the Louisville Film Society and the site of
- 2:56Speaker 10: some of this year's programming of Flyover Film Fest. Speaking
- 3:00Speaker 10: of which, we've got a special guest co-host this week,
- 3:03Speaker 10: a director who is showing her movie at the festival
- 3:05Speaker 10: this weekend. We'd like to welcome director Martha Stevens.
- 3:09Speaker 1: Hello. Thank you for having me.
- 3:12Speaker 10: So, you are here with your film, Pilgrim Song, which
- 3:16Speaker 10: was showing last night. How was the... The showing for you,
- 3:20Speaker 10: how's the festival been going so far?
- 3:22Speaker 1: Good.
- 3:23Speaker 4: It was really nice to have my Kentucky screening finally
- 3:27Speaker 4: after taking it around mostly the southeast and other places,
- 3:31Speaker 4: but still just coming home with the movie felt right.
- 3:35Speaker 4: And it was great. We had a sellout screening, and
- 3:39Speaker 4: can't complain about that. And I think it was well received.
- 3:43Speaker 10: It was a huge group of people. Because I was
- 3:46Speaker 10: in there... before everybody came in and we were like,
- 3:49Speaker 10: what is this party going on outside? There was just
- 3:51Speaker 10: this lobby full of people.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Yeah, they're waiting to see Tim, I think, probably.
- 3:56Speaker 10: I don't think so. But what I like about Flyover
- 4:00Speaker 10: Film Festival, in my opinion, they're like kind of a
- 4:03Speaker 10: world-class film fest, which is weird in the middle of
- 4:06Speaker 10: Louisville here, but they're pulling in the top tier of
- 4:10Speaker 10: independent films, and they showcase local films, artists and directors
- 4:16Speaker 10: when they have them, but they don't specifically do that.
- 4:19Speaker 10: It's not set up to be a local film fest.
- 4:21Speaker 10: You know, it's actually set up to just bring in
- 4:24Speaker 10: like the best independent films out there. But, you know,
- 4:27Speaker 10: we've got your film comes in and it's kind of
- 4:30Speaker 10: like the best of both worlds because, you know, it's
- 4:33Speaker 10: making a big hit in the festival circuit. It's making
- 4:37Speaker 10: its rounds and getting a lot of really good buzz.
- 4:39Speaker 10: But at the same time, There's times when it's almost
- 4:41Speaker 10: like a promotional video for the state of Kentucky.
- 4:45Speaker 1: Good, yeah.
- 4:46Speaker 10: It really works as highlighting this area in general on
- 4:51Speaker 10: top of being a really well put together independent film.
- 4:54Speaker 11: Well, thanks.
- 4:55Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope people are happy and feel good about.
- 5:01Speaker 1: The way I displayed the state. I mean, I think
- 5:06Speaker 1: it's definitely....
- 5:08Speaker 4: A love song to Kentucky to be really generic. I
- 5:13Speaker 4: love where I'm from, so I'm happy to keep creating
- 5:17Speaker 4: movies here.
- 5:18Speaker 10: You were born in Kentucky. How did you get, were
- 5:22Speaker 10: you initially interested in film when you were younger, or
- 5:25Speaker 10: did it happen later?
- 5:27Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I grew up in a rural farm, you know,
- 5:31Speaker 4: farmland county, and.
- 5:33Speaker 1: We still had a movie theater.
- 5:34Speaker 4: We'd go across the river in Ohio and go see
- 5:37Speaker 4: movies sometimes and there was nothing else to do.
- 5:40Speaker 1: So seeing, you know, the third Indiana.
- 5:43Speaker 4: Jones movie was, you know, a hot summer day was,
- 5:46Speaker 4: you know, that's what we did to kill time. I
- 5:48Speaker 4: had three older brothers and mom would drop us off
- 5:51Speaker 4: the movies and let us stay there for half.
- 5:54Speaker 1: A day and then come get us later. So yeah,
- 5:58Speaker 1: I've always loved movies.
- 5:59Speaker 4: And I think sometime when I was like around 14
- 6:01Speaker 4: or 15 years old.
- 6:02Speaker 1: I decided I wanted to make them.
- 6:05Speaker 4: And I dabbled a little bit in high school and
- 6:08Speaker 4: made horrible movies that I hope no one ever sees.
- 6:12Speaker 1: And then I went to film school in North Carolina.
- 6:16Speaker 10: I guess once you did a movie that was at
- 6:19Speaker 10: the festival last year, it got a lot of decent
- 6:22Speaker 10: reviews as well. And then this year you come back
- 6:25Speaker 10: with The Pilgrim Song. Where did that idea come from
- 6:28Speaker 10: as far as the movie itself?
- 6:30Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to make a Kentucky movie.
- 6:33Speaker 4: And I wanted to make a movie for Tim Morton,
- 6:37Speaker 4: who plays our lead, James. I wanted to write something
- 6:41Speaker 4: for him specifically. And I also took some experiences from teaching.
- 6:46Speaker 4: I taught for a few years. It was pink slipped.
- 6:52Speaker 4: You know, it's just, it's such like a patchwork of
- 6:55Speaker 4: things from my life or things that interest me. Like
- 6:58Speaker 4: there's no real specific topic. I don't have a good
- 7:01Speaker 4: story of why I made this movie. It's just a
- 7:03Speaker 4: lot of little things that came to make it.
- 7:07Speaker 7: I don't know.
- 7:08Speaker 10: I think that works.
- 7:08Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 7:09Speaker 10: That's how most things come, just little pieces here and there.
- 7:12Speaker 1: It's not exciting to hear about, but, yeah.
- 7:14Speaker 10: I think that's more likely how everything comes together, really.
- 7:17Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 7:18Speaker 10: I can find traces of doing this from, you know,
- 7:21Speaker 10: infancy in my eyes.
- 7:22Speaker 5: Right.
- 7:22Speaker 10: So, yeah, I know how it is. Yeah. Um, well, that's,
- 7:26Speaker 10: that's what I wanted to say. I mean, not to
- 7:27Speaker 10: go too far into the movie because I think everybody
- 7:29Speaker 10: should go seek it out and watch it. But, um, that,
- 7:32Speaker 10: I think that was some of the stuff I liked
- 7:34Speaker 10: about it is, um, also I didn't know anything going
- 7:37Speaker 10: in really. I just, I knew who you were and
- 7:39Speaker 10: I knew, you know, the movie by reputation and I
- 7:41Speaker 10: knew I wanted to see it. And you can, that's
- 7:43Speaker 10: one of the rare situations where you can go into
- 7:46Speaker 10: a movie not knowing about it. I mean, it's, it's
- 7:47Speaker 10: hard to not know anything about Prometheus. But, you know,
- 7:50Speaker 10: indie films, you can kind of go in and just,
- 7:52Speaker 10: on our recommendation or a director, and sit and be totally,
- 7:56Speaker 10: you know.
- 7:56Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 7:57Speaker 10: Caught off guard, usually, which you can't do with big
- 8:00Speaker 10: movies anymore. So, yeah, I went in and wasn't sure
- 8:03Speaker 10: what to expect. And I was really impressed with how
- 8:07Speaker 10: fun it is on one hand, and also genuinely funny,
- 8:11Speaker 10: but not because it's trying to be. I think that's
- 8:13Speaker 10: why it works so well.
- 8:14Speaker 5: Most.
- 8:15Speaker 10: indie comedies that try to be comedies that that's the
- 8:19Speaker 10: problem the comedy doesn't work right it's.
- 8:21Speaker 4: Very subtle yeah the humor and so it's kind of
- 8:24Speaker 4: up to you if you want to laugh or not
- 8:25Speaker 4: yeah because you want a movie is like a full-blown
- 8:28Speaker 4: comedy and it doesn't work then it's really a miserable
- 8:32Speaker 4: experience yeah but if a movie is sort of not
- 8:36Speaker 4: a drama not a comedy just sort of is and
- 8:39Speaker 4: there are funny moments and if it works for you
- 8:42Speaker 4: good if it doesn't oh well i don't I don't
- 8:45Speaker 4: feel like I'm embarrassing myself. But it's my sense of humor.
- 8:51Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 8:52Speaker 4: I think situations are funny.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Situational humor is funny.
- 8:57Speaker 10: And it's so based around the characters, specifically our main character.
- 9:00Speaker 10: And I think, again, just the thing that struck me
- 9:04Speaker 10: the most funny was he's so honest. But it's very understated.
- 9:08Speaker 10: He's very quiet most of the time, but he will
- 9:11Speaker 10: just say the most honest things And that, to me,
- 9:14Speaker 10: was what was funny. So I think that's one of
- 9:16Speaker 10: those things to watch as you see the movie, is
- 9:18Speaker 10: just his reaction to stuff. It's probably more honest than
- 9:21Speaker 10: most people are, but at the same time, the people
- 9:23Speaker 10: around him are kind of oblivious to it.
- 9:25Speaker 1: They are oblivious.
- 9:26Speaker 10: It's just, that's my favorite part. But yeah, he does
- 9:30Speaker 10: a great job. Actually, all the actors put in a
- 9:33Speaker 10: great performance.
- 9:34Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 9:35Speaker 10: Definitely worth going and finding out there.
- 9:37Speaker 1: I cannot take credit for that.
- 9:40Speaker 4: I think it's all about casting, and if you cast
- 9:42Speaker 4: the right people, then you'll usually have a pretty good
- 9:46Speaker 4: product demand. It's easy for me. I don't have to
- 9:49Speaker 4: direct as much when I have really talented people. and
- 9:52Speaker 4: like tim and brian they're great you know.
- 9:55Speaker 10: So yeah well with that uh i guess we can
- 9:59Speaker 10: uh move into the next segment here we are uh
- 10:02Speaker 10: we have invited you to sit in for the uh
- 10:04Speaker 10: the sofa theater feature this week so we will take
- 10:06Speaker 10: a break and come back with this.
- 10:17Speaker 12: A country boy set out to see the.
- 10:25Speaker 5: World.
- 10:26Speaker 8: Remember when those city lights shined down.
- 10:33Speaker 1: That big old moon.
- 10:35Speaker 12: Shined on your Kentucky girl. I swear I love you
- 10:45Speaker 12: by the moon above you How bright is it shining.
- 10:54Speaker 1: In your world?
- 10:59Speaker 12: Some morning when you wake up all alone Just come
- 11:07Speaker 12: on home to your blue Kentucky girl.
- 11:14Speaker 5: Drive away your worries and cares at this drive-in theater
- 11:18Speaker 5: where you will see the finest motion pictures of all
- 11:21Speaker 5: time soon to be released. Drama, comedy, adventure, excitement, something
- 11:28Speaker 5: for everyone. Here's a brief glimpse of some of the
- 11:31Speaker 5: truly fine pictures we've scheduled in the near future.
- 11:37Speaker 13: Get ready for a fast action blast in the tradition
- 11:40Speaker 13: of Dirty Mary Crazy Larry and Macon County Line. Dixie Dynamite.
- 11:49Speaker 13: Starring Warren Oates and Christopher George.
- 11:54Speaker 1: Well, a little.
- 11:55Speaker 7: Danger adds salt to a man's life.
- 11:57Speaker 5: I reckon.
- 11:58Speaker 13: They made a man, and now there's no stopping them.
- 12:02Speaker 7: The only problem we got is everybody keeps taking everything
- 12:05Speaker 7: away from us they want to.
- 12:06Speaker 5: So?
- 12:07Speaker 14: All that's gonna change.
- 12:08Speaker 1: You'd better believe it.
- 12:11Speaker 2: What's going on around here?
- 12:21Speaker 13: Music performed by Dwayne Eddy and the Mike Curb Congregation.
- 12:24Speaker 13: Dixie Dynamite. Rated PG. Parental guidance suggested.
- 12:33Speaker 7: Hey kids, it's time again for the Fright Night Horror Weekend.
- 12:36Speaker 7: Coming June 29th through July 1st at the Gold House
- 12:39Speaker 7: Hotel and Convention Center in Louisville, Kentucky. This year's guests
- 12:43Speaker 7: include Bruce Campbell, Sean Astin, Corey Feldman, John Rhys-Davies, the
- 12:49Speaker 7: fifth doctor himself, Peter Davison, plus James Marsters and Nicholas Brendan,
- 12:54Speaker 7: as well as Tyler Mayne, Deborah Foreman, Andy Barclay, Christine
- 12:58Speaker 7: Elise McCarthy, Sid Haig, Caroline Williams, and Luke Perry. Plus,
- 13:03Speaker 7: as usual, this is not just one, but two conventions,
- 13:07Speaker 7: so when you go to the Fandom Fest convention, you'll
- 13:09Speaker 7: see a weird science reunion, as well as a Monster
- 13:12Speaker 7: Squad reunion, and an Evil Dead 2 reunion. Plus, a
- 13:15Speaker 7: wide array of filmmakers, artists, and vendors will be on hand,
- 13:19Speaker 7: including a special appearance by your friends at movie meltdown
- 13:22Speaker 7: so remember that's fright night horror weekend combined with fandom
- 13:26Speaker 7: fest two conventions combined to bring you all the pop
- 13:28Speaker 7: culture action you can cram into one weekend that's june
- 13:32Speaker 7: 29th through july 1st at the gold house hotel and
- 13:34Speaker 7: convention center in louisville kentucky so just go to fright
- 13:37Speaker 7: night film fest.com for all the details.
- 13:56Speaker 4: This is Amy Simons, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
- 14:04Speaker 1: That was me melting down.
- 14:15Speaker 10: It's time for Sofa Theater. Happy anniversary, darling.
- 14:21Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like you had a happy one. You know,
- 14:28Speaker 2: do most couples spend their anniversary together?
- 14:32Speaker 15: What's that?
- 14:33Speaker 1: That's your anniversary present, baby.
- 14:36Speaker 3: Happy anniversary.
- 14:37Speaker 16: My anniversary present?
- 14:39Speaker 5: Uh-huh.
- 14:40Speaker 2: Dude, sometimes I think you got a washer missing in
- 14:43Speaker 2: your brain. I can't play that thing.
- 14:45Speaker 10: Most people can't without they learn how first, God. You're
- 14:49Speaker 10: not too ignorant to learn, are you?
- 14:52Speaker 13: Hell, if you don't want it, I'll give it to
- 14:53Speaker 13: the kids.
- 14:55Speaker 10: They probably don't want it either, so I'll put it
- 14:56Speaker 10: in the canning box.
- 14:58Speaker 1: Well, give me that.
- 15:03Speaker 3: What'd you get me a guitar for?
- 15:11Speaker 1: Because I like the way you sing.
- 15:17Speaker 15: You really think I sing good?
- 15:21Speaker 9: Well, I was born a coal miner's daughter In.
- 15:29Speaker 16: A cabin on a hill in Butcher Holler.
- 15:36Speaker 1: We were poor but.
- 15:37Speaker 12: We had love That's the one thing that Daddy made
- 15:41Speaker 12: sure of He shoveled coal to.
- 15:45Speaker 15: Make a poor man's dollar.
- 15:50Speaker 11: My daddy worked all night.
- 15:52Speaker 1: In the bandlier of coal mines.
- 15:57Speaker 11: All day long in the field of hoeing corn.
- 16:04Speaker 8: Mommy rocked the babies at night and read.
- 16:07Speaker 1: The Bible by the coal oil light.
- 16:11Speaker 12: And everything would start all over come.
- 16:14Speaker 2: Break of morn.
- 16:16Speaker 10: Welcome back to Movie Mountain Sofa Theater. This week's Sofa
- 16:19Speaker 10: Theater feature is Co-Miner's Daughter. The year is 1980. Director,
- 16:24Speaker 10: we're going to go with Apted, I suppose. That's what
- 16:26Speaker 10: it reads like. I haven't found anybody arguing the pronunciation,
- 16:30Speaker 10: so Michael can get a hold of me if it's wrong.
- 16:32Speaker 10: Director Michael Apted. The plot, according to IMDb, and it's
- 16:36Speaker 10: very literal, biography of Loretta Wynn, a country and western
- 16:40Speaker 10: singer that came from poverty to fame. Okay, I mean,
- 16:44Speaker 10: you can't really argue that. It's not very impressive, but
- 16:47Speaker 10: you can't argue it. So, with that spoiler alert, it's
- 16:52Speaker 10: been since 1980, but if you haven't seen Coal Miner's Daughter,
- 16:55Speaker 10: I guess.
- 16:55Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, Loretta.
- 16:56Speaker 10: Lynn's a singer. You ruined it.
- 16:58Speaker 5: I know, sorry.
- 16:59Speaker 1: God.
- 17:00Speaker 10: She might not have made it, you don't know. Going in,
- 17:04Speaker 10: she's a little kid from the mountains. She might have
- 17:06Speaker 10: had a horrible story, but she kind of does anyway. Alright,
- 17:09Speaker 10: with that, let's get into it. So, where would you
- 17:11Speaker 10: like to begin with Coal Miner's Daughter?
- 17:13Speaker 4: I think that opening shot's where you... At first, the
- 17:17Speaker 4: movie catches your attention as soon as the screen shows
- 17:21Speaker 4: this mule, I think, riding through trees in the mountains
- 17:27Speaker 4: with Sissy Spacek, a 13-year-old version of Sissy Spacek with
- 17:33Speaker 4: a little red cap. And she's riding it, and her
- 17:37Speaker 4: sibling is attached to the back of the mule in
- 17:40Speaker 4: a sled.
- 17:42Speaker 2: And it's just her.
- 17:43Speaker 1: wandering and then in white.
- 17:44Speaker 4: Font comes up the coal miner's daughter and it just
- 17:47Speaker 4: like right away puts you in the mood.
- 17:50Speaker 10: In the time and place oh yeah situation.
- 17:53Speaker 4: Good it's so good i mean it's you know it's
- 17:56Speaker 4: a biopic and biopics usually don't have a lot of
- 17:59Speaker 4: personality they're kind of straightforward yeah but i think that
- 18:02Speaker 4: this is one of the best biopics made.
- 18:06Speaker 10: It does definitely have mood that a lot of them don't.
- 18:09Speaker 10: I mean, a lot of them can be really cut
- 18:11Speaker 10: and dry, and you get maybe good performances out of it,
- 18:14Speaker 10: but as a whole, the movie may have not a
- 18:16Speaker 10: lot to offer. Where this does give you a very...
- 18:19Speaker 10: Especially in that first half, when they're back way in
- 18:22Speaker 10: the country. Yeah. Yeah, it definitely gives you a very...
- 18:26Speaker 10: It paints that picture of that small town... really small
- 18:29Speaker 10: town and what their life is like really well.
- 18:31Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 18:32Speaker 4: And, and the opening sequence, it's like cutting between Loretta
- 18:36Speaker 4: and her dad in the mines.
- 18:38Speaker 1: And then is it Mooney.
- 18:40Speaker 4: Her husband, Doolittle, um, Tommy Lee Jones, you know, running
- 18:45Speaker 4: around in his red Jeep with a blonde by his side.
- 18:48Speaker 1: It's just, it's great.
- 18:50Speaker 4: And the camera never stops moving. It's like this ongoing,
- 18:53Speaker 4: there's like a lot of energy and it has like
- 18:55Speaker 4: a rawness to it. It's, not like a smooth, the,
- 19:00Speaker 4: the movement isn't always smooth. Like when we're, when the
- 19:03Speaker 4: camera's facing Tommy Lee Jones driving, it's very jarring and
- 19:08Speaker 4: it goes all over the place, but it's like, it
- 19:10Speaker 4: has this, and maybe it's cause it was made in 1980,
- 19:13Speaker 4: but it has this like really good raw quality that I,
- 19:15Speaker 4: I like how it's not shiny and perfectly pieced together.
- 19:19Speaker 10: It fits its surroundings. Exactly.
- 19:22Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 19:23Speaker 10: And that first half is kind of like, uh, commercial
- 19:26Speaker 10: for jeep is the whole thing is oh my god
- 19:29Speaker 10: look how awesome this jeep is i hadn't.
- 19:31Speaker 2: Really thought about that early product placement it kind of
- 19:34Speaker 2: thing could totally take you to the top of that
- 19:35Speaker 2: hill and.
- 19:36Speaker 10: Take me up that hill i'm gonna come get you
- 19:38Speaker 10: at your house nobody can come up the mountain well
- 19:40Speaker 10: you know yeah.
- 19:41Speaker 2: You pull up and they jump out and run out
- 19:44Speaker 2: they jump.
- 19:44Speaker 10: Right in your car it's a pretty good ad actually it.
- 19:49Speaker 17: Is and I think it's nice how the movie doesn't
- 19:52Speaker 17: like doesn't make poverty it doesn't paint poverty to be
- 19:56Speaker 17: cute but it also doesn't make it look like these
- 19:59Speaker 17: people are living in squalor you know what.
- 20:01Speaker 1: I mean it's it feels pretty honest I think.
- 20:04Speaker 10: And it does I mean it again as she grows
- 20:07Speaker 10: up and works this into her music that whole like
- 20:10Speaker 10: no matter how poor we were, we still had a
- 20:12Speaker 10: good family. You know, she, she, she kind of came
- 20:16Speaker 10: to stand for that, that, you know, I came out
- 20:17Speaker 10: of nothing, but we had love and we had this,
- 20:20Speaker 10: you know, family unit. And, you know, I think it
- 20:22Speaker 10: does present that pretty well, even though it's, it is
- 20:25Speaker 10: a very backwards town, you know, they, they, they've got,
- 20:28Speaker 10: you know, the important things, I guess you should say.
- 20:30Speaker 14: Yeah.
- 20:31Speaker 1: And they actually shot, I think a lot of it
- 20:34Speaker 1: in Van Leer where Butcher Holler is.
- 20:37Speaker 4: And, um, Shot a little bit in West Virginia and stuff,
- 20:39Speaker 4: but I like the fact that they didn't go to
- 20:42Speaker 4: Europe to shoot Appalachia, which happens so much. And I'm like,
- 20:46Speaker 4: just come here and do it.
- 20:49Speaker 10: We're in Bulgaria right now shooting the Appalachian Mountains.
- 20:52Speaker 1: Right, right, exactly.
- 20:53Speaker 4: And I think you can't not think about how awesome
- 20:57Speaker 4: Levon Helms is as her father.
- 21:00Speaker 1: And, like, what a tender performance he gives.
- 21:03Speaker 4: And, like, how well that relationship is painted in this opening.
- 21:08Speaker 4: And she's just, like, a daddy's girl. And he's, like, hard,
- 21:12Speaker 4: but he loves his kids so much.
- 21:13Speaker 1: And he's such a good dad.
- 21:15Speaker 10: And almost unrecognizable. I'm so used to his older version
- 21:19Speaker 10: that I sat there forever going, I thought Leave on
- 21:21Speaker 10: Home was, oh, my God. I was like, yeah, I'm
- 21:24Speaker 10: not used to him being that young. It's weird.
- 21:25Speaker 7: It's good.
- 21:26Speaker 5: It's good.
- 21:27Speaker 4: And I think most of the extras were, like, real
- 21:30Speaker 4: townspeople and stuff, which I think is always good.
- 21:33Speaker 1: I like that. I do that.
- 21:34Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 21:34Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 21:35Speaker 7: So.
- 21:37Speaker 1: And there's a few Zooms. I love, like, 1970s Zooms.
- 21:40Speaker 4: And although, like, that sort of thing was sort of,
- 21:44Speaker 4: you know, coming to an end in the 80s, it
- 21:47Speaker 4: was so nice that there was, like, a few pretty
- 21:49Speaker 4: good Zoom ends.
- 21:51Speaker 10: I do like, speaking of the whole little town and
- 21:55Speaker 10: setting up that mood, I do like that they work
- 21:56Speaker 10: in the company store reference. Because that probably is, yeah,
- 22:01Speaker 10: more so than people realize, I guess, now. I mean,
- 22:05Speaker 10: not that sort of the same system isn't going on
- 22:07Speaker 10: in a different way now, but it is weird how
- 22:09Speaker 10: much that was going on and how much it sort
- 22:12Speaker 10: of worked to keep these people in poverty and So
- 22:15Speaker 10: I like that they at least make that reference in there.
- 22:18Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 22:18Speaker 4: I mean, I live in West Virginia now, and you
- 22:20Speaker 4: go to these little towns, and you still see where
- 22:22Speaker 4: the company stores, you know, were and probably were in.
- 22:27Speaker 1: Business until, like, the 80s or something. It's just, yeah.
- 22:31Speaker 4: Living in West Virginia, it gives you a pretty clear
- 22:33Speaker 4: idea of what the mining did.
- 22:37Speaker 1: To the people there.
- 22:38Speaker 4: And does. And still does to this day, exactly.
- 22:41Speaker 1: So, yeah.
- 22:42Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 22:43Speaker 10: But yeah, you get in, there are still like those,
- 22:48Speaker 10: looking at it from today's perspective, as I'm sitting there
- 22:51Speaker 10: watching it and we get in the house, they're not
- 22:54Speaker 10: a huge house and And kids just keep coming in
- 22:57Speaker 10: the room. I'm like, oh, my God, birth control. There's
- 22:59Speaker 10: so many. There's so many children.
- 23:01Speaker 1: And then she goes on to have a ton of kids.
- 23:02Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 23:03Speaker 2: And I love the introduction of the kids, like, when
- 23:05Speaker 2: she's in the kitchen. And it's like a shot of
- 23:06Speaker 2: a kid and then a shot of a kid and
- 23:08Speaker 2: then a shot. And you're like, oh, God, when is
- 23:09Speaker 2: this going to stop?
- 23:10Speaker 1: It does stop. It doesn't stop.
- 23:13Speaker 4: I love that moment, too, when she comes home after
- 23:16Speaker 4: she separates from Tommy Lee Jones.
- 23:18Speaker 13: Yeah.
- 23:19Speaker 1: And the dad's like, you're getting married life's making you fat.
- 23:23Speaker 1: And the mom's like.
- 23:25Speaker 13: Oh no.
- 23:26Speaker 10: Oh no.
- 23:27Speaker 1: Cause yeah. So then they're locked into their marriage. Um,
- 23:32Speaker 1: and one thing I wanted to say, I think the like.
- 23:35Speaker 4: First, first, uh, 30 minutes of the movie, they're the
- 23:38Speaker 4: best part of the movie. And, um, just maybe it's
- 23:41Speaker 4: because I just love the setting, but, um, I was noticing,
- 23:45Speaker 4: I was reviewing it this morning a little bit and
- 23:47Speaker 4: I noticed like how wonderful Tommy Lee Jones and Sissy Spacek,
- 23:51Speaker 4: how great their body language is. Like, Tommy Lee Jones
- 23:54Speaker 4: is sitting and talking to the moonshiner and he's, he's
- 23:57Speaker 4: holding his knees up to his chest.
- 23:58Speaker 1: Like, like a high school student.
- 24:00Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 24:00Speaker 1: Like the, like, even though you look at him.
- 24:02Speaker 4: And you're like, clearly you're a man trying to play
- 24:05Speaker 4: a boy, but he's still there. They really, I feel
- 24:08Speaker 4: like tried to at least capture like this youthful.
- 24:13Speaker 1: I don't know, air. It was, it was really nice.
- 24:16Speaker 1: And Sissy Spacek, of course, won the Academy Award that year.
- 24:19Speaker 10: Um, and, and, does an amazing job she's so good
- 24:23Speaker 10: she does it is funny though watching that you mentioned
- 24:26Speaker 10: that because i noticed that too there's that that scene
- 24:29Speaker 10: of of tommy lee jones trying to like tell her
- 24:31Speaker 10: dad you know i want to marry her and i'm
- 24:33Speaker 10: looking at the show i'm like aren't you two the
- 24:35Speaker 10: same age he's supposed to be like 22 or something
- 24:39Speaker 10: and i'm like i'm pretty sure you're like 40 i
- 24:41Speaker 10: don't think tommy lee jones was ever really young i
- 24:43Speaker 10: think he came out 40 yeah like he's always looked
- 24:48Speaker 10: like So yeah, it was really funny. I'm just like, dude,
- 24:50Speaker 10: your dad's the singer.
- 24:52Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 24:53Speaker 4: Did you all notice how Sissy Spacek doesn't even sing
- 24:57Speaker 4: until almost an hour into the movie?
- 24:59Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 25:00Speaker 10: Again, I think that's what, like you said, that first half,
- 25:04Speaker 10: I think even with them on the road, I think
- 25:07Speaker 10: that first half of the movie is better because it's different.
- 25:11Speaker 10: It really does present, because you get to that second
- 25:14Speaker 10: half and it's like, every singer biopic ever you know
- 25:17Speaker 10: it's like this could be walk the line this could
- 25:19Speaker 10: be I mean then they're on the road all the
- 25:21Speaker 10: time and no they're taking pills you know just like
- 25:23Speaker 10: it becomes what every celebrity biopic kind of becomes but
- 25:26Speaker 10: this first half of the story is different than just
- 25:29Speaker 10: about everybody else's you know origins so.
- 25:32Speaker 1: It takes it's time yeah it.
- 25:35Speaker 10: Makes it a very different story that you haven't seen
- 25:38Speaker 10: before in these especially in a biopic.
- 25:40Speaker 4: Kind of thing I yeah I think it's stuff and
- 25:42Speaker 4: I like how it it builds anticipation, you know? Yeah.
- 25:46Speaker 10: I mean, that is something that you, you know where
- 25:49Speaker 10: it's going. I mean, you can't do a whole lot
- 25:52Speaker 10: with biopics in that, like, you know, you can't have
- 25:55Speaker 10: a big twist somewhere down the line. You kind of
- 25:57Speaker 10: know where it's going if it's going to be somewhat factual.
- 25:59Speaker 10: So yeah, but it does.
- 26:01Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 26:01Speaker 10: That first half where you realize she's like kind of
- 26:04Speaker 10: fighting it and it, it isn't like it just happened overnight.
- 26:08Speaker 10: It's this, you, you see her not even knowing how
- 26:11Speaker 10: to play the guitar, and you see her not wanting
- 26:12Speaker 10: to get on stage. So it is sort of this,
- 26:15Speaker 10: her being won over to what you know is going
- 26:17Speaker 10: to be this amazing career.
- 26:19Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 26:20Speaker 5: It's interesting.
- 26:20Speaker 4: Did you read any of the backstory of how Sissy
- 26:23Speaker 4: Spacek came to be?
- 26:25Speaker 10: I don't think.
- 26:27Speaker 1: In the part?
- 26:28Speaker 4: Well, she, apparently, I guess Loretta Lynn sold the rights
- 26:33Speaker 4: to her store or whatever, and knew there was going
- 26:35Speaker 4: to be a movie made, and was going on national
- 26:37Speaker 4: television saying.
- 26:39Speaker 1: I'm getting Sissy Spacek to play this part. And no
- 26:42Speaker 1: one ever talked to Sissy Spacek. And Sissy Spacek.
- 26:45Speaker 4: Was actually very weirded out and, like, felt very disconcerned
- 26:49Speaker 4: that this was happening and almost turned it down because
- 26:52Speaker 4: she didn't... She just thought it was so weird.
- 26:55Speaker 10: Because Loretta Lynn's stalking her.
- 26:57Speaker 5: Right.
- 26:58Speaker 4: And I think she was... Then, like, at some point
- 27:02Speaker 4: when she was watching one of these interviews... coal miners
- 27:06Speaker 4: like dog the song came on the radio and she
- 27:09Speaker 4: was like I guess it's meant to be and throughout
- 27:12Speaker 4: the shooting they spent a lot of time together and
- 27:17Speaker 4: they wrote songs together and Loretta like took her to
- 27:20Speaker 4: her bosom you know and but I just thought that
- 27:23Speaker 4: was funny that Loretta Lynn just she's just like a
- 27:26Speaker 4: firecracker anyway she's just like Sissy Spacek's gonna play it
- 27:30Speaker 4: without you know.
- 27:32Speaker 2: That's really interesting. It sounds a little like the Patsy Cline,
- 27:34Speaker 2: Loretta Lynn relationship, too.
- 27:36Speaker 5: Right.
- 27:36Speaker 1: She kind of calls her a hen. Some other hen thing, yeah.
- 27:41Speaker 6: Jack, Loretta's getting to be a woman.
- 27:43Speaker 1: Going on 14.
- 27:44Speaker 10: Women's supposed to have pretty things.
- 27:47Speaker 1: Mommy, she ain't no woman. She ain't nothing but a.
- 27:49Speaker 18: Dad burn key.
- 27:50Speaker 10: Before we get too far out of the early part
- 27:53Speaker 10: of the movie here, is everybody creeped out by the
- 27:56Speaker 10: wedding night? It is such a creepy scene, really. I mean,
- 28:00Speaker 10: I know it's... It's how things were. It's how it worked.
- 28:03Speaker 1: She was 13? Yeah. Or maybe she was 14 by then.
- 28:08Speaker 10: Well, she's a woman now.
- 28:10Speaker 1: According to her family. She had no real, you know...
- 28:15Speaker 1: Had probably... No one ever gave her the talk.
- 28:18Speaker 5: No.
- 28:19Speaker 1: No, I thought that was fascinating.
- 28:20Speaker 2: I mean, the thing with the book, and I guess
- 28:22Speaker 2: that's really how it was, that, you know, with them
- 28:25Speaker 2: not being saturated by media and learning sexuality that way,
- 28:28Speaker 2: that you just had no idea what this thing was.
- 28:30Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 28:31Speaker 10: No idea, probably. I mean, this is pre-internet. You can
- 28:35Speaker 10: find everything you need on the internet, but... More than
- 28:37Speaker 10: you ever want on the internet. But, yeah. Kid in
- 28:40Speaker 10: the mountains, and, you know, that day... Yeah, totally ignorant.
- 28:45Speaker 1: In a little sleazy motel in town.
- 28:48Speaker 10: Yeah, I like that everybody out there knows what we
- 28:51Speaker 10: were doing, Comet. I was like, that's cute. That's such
- 28:54Speaker 10: a 14-year-old girl, you know? Just like, they all know
- 28:56Speaker 10: what we're doing in here.
- 28:59Speaker 1: I do like, though, how the movie, they make light
- 29:02Speaker 1: of that in a way.
- 29:02Speaker 4: But they also never, like, condemn the people for.
- 29:06Speaker 1: It's never, like, making a big deal out of the
- 29:09Speaker 1: fact that she was... 2014, which is weird, but it
- 29:13Speaker 1: was the time of the times. It was different then, so.
- 29:15Speaker 10: It's harder for us now watching it than, you know,
- 29:18Speaker 10: at the times it was kind of the norm. I mean,
- 29:21Speaker 10: maybe not everywhere, but certainly in most of the country
- 29:25Speaker 10: for a lot of years there, that was still going on.
- 29:27Speaker 10: And just, you know, within a few years after that,
- 29:30Speaker 10: maybe it started becoming not such a good thing and
- 29:34Speaker 10: people were waiting a little more. But, yeah, I mean,
- 29:37Speaker 10: for for most of our, you know, country's history and
- 29:40Speaker 10: the world over, that's kind of how things used to be.
- 29:42Speaker 5: Right.
- 29:43Speaker 10: It's really, yeah, it just seems creepy to us now, but.
- 29:46Speaker 4: Right. But I, yeah, but I feel like the filmmakers never,
- 29:49Speaker 4: never like shun their, you know, or turn their noses
- 29:53Speaker 4: up at any of the situations that happen.
- 29:55Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:56Speaker 10: Which, which is good because I mean, a lot of the,
- 29:58Speaker 10: if you were coming from a different place, And he's British,
- 30:01Speaker 10: isn't he? Yeah, he's British. Coming from an entirely different world,
- 30:05Speaker 10: he really could have looked at this and went, oh, God,
- 30:07Speaker 10: and really sort of cast a down vision of this.
- 30:12Speaker 10: But who knows?
- 30:13Speaker 1: Maybe he was from, like, the projects in England somewhere.
- 30:16Speaker 10: The backwoods of England.
- 30:17Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows?
- 30:19Speaker 4: But, yeah, and looking at his filmography, it became very
- 30:23Speaker 4: clear to me that Kohlmeyer's daughter was, like, his masterpiece.
- 30:27Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 30:27Speaker 1: Cole Myers-Adder's like the best thing he's done.
- 30:29Speaker 10: Maybe.
- 30:31Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 30:31Speaker 10: I like Firstborn myself.
- 30:33Speaker 1: Well, he did Enough, right?
- 30:36Speaker 4: With Jennifer Lopez where she fights her abusive husband.
- 30:42Speaker 10: If I remember, Blink was in there. That classy man
- 30:44Speaker 10: in stuff.
- 30:45Speaker 1: Extreme Measures.
- 30:46Speaker 10: There's some classy movies in this list.
- 30:49Speaker 1: Nell.
- 30:49Speaker 10: We can't forget Nell.
- 30:50Speaker 5: Yeah, Nell.
- 30:51Speaker 10: His return to Appalachia.
- 30:53Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 30:54Speaker 1: Where Jodie Foster really.
- 30:57Speaker 10: That's become such a joke, which is a shame, because
- 30:59Speaker 10: Jodie Foster does a good performance, but you can't not
- 31:02Speaker 10: make fun of it. It's just asking for it.
- 31:04Speaker 1: It's chick-a-pay, right?
- 31:05Speaker 10: Chick-a-pay-pay. I mean, how can you not make fun of that?
- 31:09Speaker 10: If only we could have gotten Sissy Spacek to do that,
- 31:11Speaker 10: her entire performance, in that language. Yeah.
- 31:15Speaker 1: Nell's language.
- 31:16Speaker 10: Nell language.
- 31:18Speaker 1: Yeah, well, he's definitely a director for higher... Yeah. I
- 31:23Speaker 1: don't know.
- 31:24Speaker 4: I would never have heard of him as being some
- 31:27Speaker 4: sort of auteur or anything.
- 31:29Speaker 10: Which is odd because, let's see, what was it? He
- 31:32Speaker 10: is now the president of the Directors Guild of America.
- 31:35Speaker 1: That seems appropriate, doesn't it?
- 31:37Speaker 10: That's pretty much the kind of stuff they do there.
- 31:39Speaker 10: I guess that's how they operate. Directors for hire. Yeah,
- 31:46Speaker 10: I mean, you were saying the way that they present them.
- 31:49Speaker 10: I mean, there is that middle section there where I mean,
- 31:53Speaker 10: even as much as they don't paint the characters that way,
- 31:56Speaker 10: Tommy Lee's kind of a jerk. And again, maybe it's
- 31:59Speaker 10: just me being in today's age, but I mean, I'm
- 32:03Speaker 10: sure at the time, most of what he did was
- 32:05Speaker 10: probably the same thing any guy would have done in
- 32:07Speaker 10: that situation. But looking at it now, he comes off
- 32:10Speaker 10: as such a jerk in that middle area when he's
- 32:13Speaker 10: just yelling at her and won't let her do anything
- 32:15Speaker 10: and wants to be in charge of everything. And i
- 32:18Speaker 10: don't know there's there's it's again a weird perspective thing
- 32:21Speaker 10: i think that i think people like kids now watching
- 32:23Speaker 10: it would think this is a really weird movie but
- 32:26Speaker 10: yeah at the time it yeah it's the same thing
- 32:29Speaker 10: that was going on in every household probably a lot.
- 32:31Speaker 1: Of smacking the smacking the lady around.
- 32:34Speaker 10: Yeah i like that wedding night move like i make
- 32:38Speaker 10: the promise and you don't get out of the honeymoon.
- 32:41Speaker 4: It's like, don't ever hit her and don't take her
- 32:44Speaker 4: away from home.
- 32:45Speaker 10: The next night. She's like, Jesus Christ.
- 32:48Speaker 1: You know, this is all.
- 32:50Speaker 4: I mean, it's based off of a biography that... Kind
- 32:55Speaker 4: of an autobiography. It's like her and another author. So
- 32:58Speaker 4: it's from her perspective. It's from Loretta Lynn's perspective. Anybody's
- 33:04Speaker 4: perspective is a little painted by... their own feelings or emotions. So,
- 33:10Speaker 4: not that I'm giving him any... Not that I'm saying.
- 33:13Speaker 1: That he was great, like a great guy.
- 33:16Speaker 10: I'm sure she's... But as time goes on, it is
- 33:19Speaker 10: funny how much... that relationship holds up, and that she
- 33:23Speaker 10: does end up, you know, still loving him all these
- 33:25Speaker 10: years later.
- 33:26Speaker 1: Are they still married?
- 33:27Speaker 2: Well, they were still... I did look that up, because
- 33:29Speaker 2: I was sort of curious if he was alive when
- 33:31Speaker 2: the film came out, if they were together when the
- 33:32Speaker 2: film came out, because it is so candid. I mean,
- 33:35Speaker 2: it is a very much warts and all depiction. And
- 33:38Speaker 2: she was with him until he passed away, which was
- 33:40Speaker 2: years after that.
- 33:41Speaker 10: He's gone now, but yeah, they were, I think, together.
- 33:44Speaker 2: And it is, I mean, it is a love story,
- 33:46Speaker 2: and while, you know, I think... I think the movie
- 33:48Speaker 2: sort of focuses on he did these things, but it
- 33:51Speaker 2: was more out of frustration of his inability to assert
- 33:55Speaker 2: his manhood in a time when that was so important.
- 33:57Speaker 5: Right.
- 33:58Speaker 2: Um, rather than, and you know, and obviously he had weaknesses,
- 34:00Speaker 2: but rather than any.
- 34:01Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 34:02Speaker 4: And he kicked himself in the ass cause he's the
- 34:04Speaker 4: one that pushed her to be what she became.
- 34:07Speaker 10: Which, I mean, that's sort of the good balance. Like
- 34:09Speaker 10: you see that part in the middle where even when
- 34:12Speaker 10: he's kind of being a jerk about it, he's like, I, I,
- 34:14Speaker 10: believe in you you know even even more than you
- 34:17Speaker 10: do yeah i am i know you have talent you
- 34:19Speaker 10: make me proud when you do these things so i
- 34:22Speaker 10: want you to be it's almost again like a very
- 34:24Speaker 10: parental thing of you know i know you can do
- 34:27Speaker 10: this and i'm going to support you and so it
- 34:29Speaker 10: yeah it's that sort of balances out the the horrible
- 34:32Speaker 10: other situations that come about with him but yeah i
- 34:35Speaker 10: mean he's he's very in the business end of it
- 34:37Speaker 10: in those early days he you i mean she would
- 34:40Speaker 10: have never period, wouldn't have ever been a singer, would
- 34:42Speaker 10: have never been a successful singer had he not been there,
- 34:45Speaker 10: so in a way, he sort of makes up for
- 34:47Speaker 10: it with being sort of supportive in that middle section,
- 34:51Speaker 10: and then turns around and kicks himself in the ass,
- 34:53Speaker 10: because he's just like, why the hell did I do this,
- 34:55Speaker 10: now look at me, and it is a weird situation,
- 34:58Speaker 10: I guess, once she starts to get successful, and there's
- 35:01Speaker 10: kind of no place for him in that world, and Yeah,
- 35:04Speaker 10: it's weird.
- 35:05Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's another interesting moment where Patsy Cline turns
- 35:08Speaker 2: to her husband and says, you know, whatever, just remember
- 35:11Speaker 2: your tax deduction or whatever.
- 35:12Speaker 5: Which is pretty funny.
- 35:13Speaker 10: And then Sissy Spacek.
- 35:14Speaker 2: All of a sudden feels all empowered. She's like, yeah,
- 35:16Speaker 2: you too, buddy. Don't you forget that. And just the
- 35:18Speaker 2: look on his face, this look of horror and sadness.
- 35:22Speaker 2: The dynamic between the two of them is, I think,
- 35:25Speaker 2: my favorite part of the movie.
- 35:26Speaker 1: I think it's.
- 35:27Speaker 2: A very true relationship that's depicted in a very authentic way.
- 35:31Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 35:32Speaker 2: That is tender but also of troubled.
- 35:36Speaker 10: If nothing else, once it got into it, I was
- 35:38Speaker 10: just like, if you take nothing else from the whole
- 35:41Speaker 10: Loretta Lynn story, it paints this to be Patsy Cline's
- 35:45Speaker 10: the coolest chick ever. She comes off really cool.
- 35:49Speaker 1: Is it Beverly D'Angelo?
- 35:50Speaker 10: Yeah, which I thought was weird casting. Once I saw
- 35:53Speaker 10: that's who she was, I was just like, oh, God,
- 35:55Speaker 10: this isn't going to work at all. Yeah, she was great.
- 35:58Speaker 4: You think of her as Clark Griswold's wife, and then
- 36:02Speaker 4: she comes out of left field.
- 36:04Speaker 10: She's also pretty great at that, truthfully. But yeah, I
- 36:07Speaker 10: did not see her as Patsy Cline, and she pulls
- 36:09Speaker 10: it off really well. And did the singing, too. I
- 36:12Speaker 10: didn't see that coming, either.
- 36:14Speaker 1: Not quite as well as Sissy Spacek.
- 36:16Speaker 10: Well, you know, it's not her profession.
- 36:18Speaker 1: Yeah, Patsy Cline's pretty.
- 36:21Speaker 10: Hard to emulate. It's hard for anybody.
- 36:24Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a good movie. Like, I couldn't... say
- 36:28Speaker 1: that it's like high art or something. I don't know.
- 36:31Speaker 4: Like I said, it's a biopic and I think that
- 36:34Speaker 4: because you already know the story, it's already maybe more
- 36:40Speaker 4: difficult to be taken aback by it.
- 36:42Speaker 1: Am I making sense? Sort of.
- 36:44Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 36:45Speaker 10: I mean, well, and like I said, I think I
- 36:47Speaker 10: have that issue with any of them once it gets
- 36:49Speaker 10: there because it does seem like it's just sort of
- 36:51Speaker 10: going through the motions that last half hour because then
- 36:53Speaker 10: it just... They don't even really delve into what's going on.
- 36:57Speaker 10: She's just losing it and.
- 37:00Speaker 1: Oh, and by the way, pills.
- 37:01Speaker 10: Kind of pills, but they really don't ever, like, spell
- 37:03Speaker 10: that out. Like, at least with, like, you get to
- 37:05Speaker 10: the Johnny Cash story, and they're like, no, really, he
- 37:07Speaker 10: was on a lot of drugs.
- 37:08Speaker 4: Right.
- 37:09Speaker 10: And they make it obvious what, you know, what the
- 37:11Speaker 10: demons are with him. And, like, with her, it's just like,
- 37:13Speaker 10: things aren't going so well now. Like, you could kind
- 37:17Speaker 10: of spell... I mean, if you're going to bother, you
- 37:19Speaker 10: could spell this out a little bit so we at least...
- 37:21Speaker 10: really get a decent picture of what's going on here,
- 37:23Speaker 10: where it seems like they sort of gloss over what
- 37:25Speaker 10: was going on in that part.
- 37:27Speaker 1: Let me ask you all something.
- 37:28Speaker 4: If you could see a biopic of any musician that's
- 37:32Speaker 4: not been made, who.
- 37:33Speaker 5: Would you pick?
- 37:34Speaker 10: That's a good question.
- 37:36Speaker 1: That is a good question. Do you have an answer?
- 37:38Speaker 1: I was thinking today, like, why is there no Dolly
- 37:40Speaker 1: Parton biopic?
- 37:41Speaker 10: That would be a good one. Oh, what's the casting
- 37:44Speaker 10: on that?
- 37:45Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 37:45Speaker 2: I think just her and you just CGI unage her.
- 37:49Speaker 10: Well, she's kind of doing that to herself.
- 37:50Speaker 1: These days anyway. She's doing a lot of weird stuff.
- 37:53Speaker 10: She's doing a lot of weird stuff.
- 37:54Speaker 1: I think she would have a really.
- 37:56Speaker 4: Because she has that same rags to riches story, but
- 37:59Speaker 4: also hearing her in interviews, she's like, I moved out
- 38:04Speaker 4: to New Orleans and I kept a pistol in my purse.
- 38:07Speaker 1: It's crazy, crazy. I don't know.
- 38:10Speaker 10: And that would be an interesting one with once the
- 38:13Speaker 10: husband comes into play because he was around the whole
- 38:15Speaker 10: time too and really like it just kind of came
- 38:18Speaker 10: that joke of like she would always reference him but
- 38:20Speaker 10: he was never really there he never really had anything
- 38:22Speaker 10: to do with it so that would be an interesting
- 38:24Speaker 10: dynamic they didn't.
- 38:25Speaker 4: Even like sleep in the same bedroom I mean it
- 38:28Speaker 4: was like a I think like a friendship it turned
- 38:30Speaker 4: into like a friendship marriage an.
- 38:32Speaker 2: Interesting biopic now that I think about it she would
- 38:35Speaker 2: need to write it because I don't think anybody other
- 38:37Speaker 2: than Dolly Parton could write Dolly Parton like she would
- 38:39Speaker 2: need to be responsible for the dialogue yes Yeah, it
- 38:43Speaker 2: always has sort of disappointed me. I don't know what
- 38:46Speaker 2: that impulse is. It feels like biopics are always sort
- 38:48Speaker 2: of straightforward and nobody gets really experimental. I mean, I
- 38:52Speaker 2: think Mishima and what was the.
- 38:54Speaker 1: Ian Curtis one?
- 38:55Speaker 2: The Ian Curtis one I thought was sort of more
- 38:56Speaker 2: interesting than they generally are. Control, I think.
- 38:59Speaker 10: Yeah, it was good.
- 39:00Speaker 1: I'm Not There was kind of cool. Yeah, that's true.
- 39:03Speaker 2: That's one that did go someplace interesting.
- 39:05Speaker 1: I don't know if you'd call that a biopic.
- 39:06Speaker 5: Differently, yeah.
- 39:07Speaker 1: A character study.
- 39:08Speaker 10: A different approach to it, yeah. Yeah.
- 39:10Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 39:11Speaker 1: I'm still waiting for the Bruce Springsteen biopic.
- 39:14Speaker 10: How has it taken them this long to do it?
- 39:16Speaker 7: I don't know.
- 39:17Speaker 10: Usually they're on top of these super popular people, so
- 39:21Speaker 10: that's weird.
- 39:22Speaker 2: I guess the Kurt Cobain one was an interesting idea.
- 39:25Speaker 1: Maybe that's why people don't do it.
- 39:27Speaker 10: They keep trying. They keep talking about a new one
- 39:29Speaker 10: every year, it seems.
- 39:30Speaker 5: Like.
- 39:31Speaker 10: I don't know that we need those. It's probably not
- 39:33Speaker 10: going to go well when they do it.
- 39:34Speaker 1: It's true.
- 39:35Speaker 10: I don't know. Eric Burden.
- 39:39Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
- 39:40Speaker 10: I don't really know his story. Yeah, I don't either.
- 39:42Speaker 10: I'm just trying to think of somebody I haven't seen
- 39:45Speaker 10: a lot on, and I don't know even that that's
- 39:47Speaker 10: an interesting, tragic story.
- 39:49Speaker 1: Maybe Rocky Erickson from the 13th Floor Elevators.
- 39:52Speaker 10: Yeah, that's definitely one with a lot of story to it.
- 39:56Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. Townes Van Zandt.
- 40:01Speaker 10: Another one that most people don't know much about, so yeah,
- 40:04Speaker 10: those would all be interesting. So we've got a list
- 40:08Speaker 10: of movies for you to make is what we're saying.
- 40:09Speaker 10: Forget all that other stuff I was working on. Martha,
- 40:12Speaker 10: you've got a whole list of stuff to make now.
- 40:15Speaker 13: Jeez.
- 40:16Speaker 10: I'm doing nothing but music biopics from here on out, people.
- 40:18Speaker 1: That sounds miserable.
- 40:19Speaker 10: Yeah, kind of. Maybe one.
- 40:22Speaker 4: So much research involved that I just don't.
- 40:26Speaker 1: I like creating my own world and writing.
- 40:29Speaker 10: That's what you should do. Don't be factual. Just, like,
- 40:31Speaker 10: call it a biopic and sell it like it is
- 40:33Speaker 10: and then get in there and just do whatever the
- 40:35Speaker 10: hell you want.
- 40:35Speaker 1: You know they're making a Jessica White movie, supposedly. Do
- 40:39Speaker 1: you have the Dancing Outlaw?
- 40:40Speaker 10: Oh, yeah.
- 40:41Speaker 1: They're making a movie with Johnny Depp's playing him.
- 40:44Speaker 4: Oh, no. This could just be rumored.
- 40:47Speaker 1: I have no idea, but Kirstie Alley's going to play
- 40:50Speaker 1: his wife.
- 40:50Speaker 10: Oh, God.
- 40:51Speaker 1: Which I'm really excited about that possibility. I think Kirstie
- 40:55Speaker 1: Alley could be a crazy West Virginia lady. I think
- 40:59Speaker 1: that would be really fun to see. It could be horrible,
- 41:01Speaker 1: but it would be fun to watch.
- 41:04Speaker 10: Yeah, Jessica's got a weird little following out there that's
- 41:06Speaker 10: very strange.
- 41:07Speaker 4: Yeah, well, living in West Virginia, he gets brought up
- 41:10Speaker 4: on a regular basis.
- 41:12Speaker 10: Yeah, Jessica, I don't know what to do with her.
- 41:16Speaker 16: You're listening to Tri-State Country with your DJ Bob A.
- 41:19Speaker 1: Day right here till 6 o'clock, neighbors.
- 41:21Speaker 4: And now here's a word from our friends down at
- 41:24Speaker 4: Hutchins Hot Pigs.
- 41:26Speaker 13: Tell them all about Hutch and all them little piglets.
- 41:29Speaker 1: You played it, huh?
- 41:31Speaker 2: You ain't even took it out of the wrapper.
- 41:34Speaker 1: You know how many do-it-yourself records I get in here
- 41:36Speaker 1: every day? If I played all of them, I wouldn't
- 41:37Speaker 1: have time to play anything else. Well, why did you
- 41:40Speaker 1: lie to us?
- 41:40Speaker 11: Huh?
- 41:41Speaker 1: Why'd you say they didn't like us? Stu worked so
- 41:43Speaker 1: hard to get us this record.
- 41:45Speaker 10: Hey, buddy, get her out of here.
- 41:46Speaker 1: I gotta go back in here.
- 41:47Speaker 10: I'm sorry, buddy.
- 41:48Speaker 1: Nothing I can do once she gets cranked up like this.
- 41:50Speaker 1: She's gonna be here all day.
- 41:52Speaker 11: He took the picture, too.
- 41:54Speaker 2: Heck, we got four babies we had to leave home
- 41:56Speaker 2: with my mommy.
- 41:57Speaker 1: We drove all the way here. Spent every last.
- 41:59Speaker 3: Dime we had getting here. Folks, folks, I say, folks,
- 42:02Speaker 3: we got a special treat for you here today.
- 42:04Speaker 1: A young lady who I predict is going to.
- 42:05Speaker 11: Go all the way.
- 42:06Speaker 2: I can't believe it. I can't believe you'd do something so.
- 42:10Speaker 9: That gum mean as that.
- 42:11Speaker 10: Tell me all about yourself, darling.
- 42:13Speaker 5: About myself?
- 42:14Speaker 19: And then I signed up for Doolittle.
- 42:15Speaker 1: That's my husband.
- 42:17Speaker 8: Except everybody else calls him Mooney on account that he
- 42:19Speaker 8: used to sell moonshine back in Butcher Holler.
- 42:21Speaker 5: Where?
- 42:22Speaker 19: Butcher Holler.
- 42:23Speaker 16: That's where me and Dew's from, back in Kentucky. Anyway,
- 42:26Speaker 16: I wrote the song, and Dew heard it, and he said,
- 42:28Speaker 16: that's about as pretty a song as I ever heard.
- 42:31Speaker 1: Good as Patsy Cline. I said, oh, ain't nobody sings
- 42:34Speaker 1: as good as Patsy.
- 42:36Speaker 3: Well, let's give a listen to it, folks.
- 42:37Speaker 11: Brand new on the Zero label, Miss Maureen Wynn.
- 42:41Speaker 1: Singing Honky Tonk Girl.
- 42:43Speaker 5: It's Loretta.
- 42:44Speaker 2: It's Loretta Lynn, not Lorraine.
- 42:46Speaker 5: Loretta.
- 42:48Speaker 1: There's not a lot to speak of, unfortunately. I picked
- 42:51Speaker 1: a hard movie.
- 42:52Speaker 10: Well, again, it's all in that first half. It's like,
- 42:55Speaker 10: once it gets to the middle there, I don't know
- 42:57Speaker 10: that there's as much to go into.
- 43:00Speaker 13: It does.
- 43:01Speaker 10: It's really.
- 43:01Speaker 1: About Sissy Spacek's performance.
- 43:03Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 43:04Speaker 1: She's great, you know? That's what makes the movie good.
- 43:09Speaker 1: And the fact that the.
- 43:11Speaker 4: I feel like the camera direction's pretty good.
- 43:13Speaker 10: It's... It looks... It's confident.
- 43:16Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 43:16Speaker 10: It's good.
- 43:17Speaker 1: It's a lot of movement, and... Yeah.
- 43:20Speaker 10: The one that I wanted to give him credit for, camera-wise,
- 43:24Speaker 10: when he's, like, driving the bulldozer, and, like, she climbs on,
- 43:28Speaker 10: and he's doing that, you gotta, if you wanna do this,
- 43:29Speaker 10: you gotta decide you wanna do this. That shot is awesome. Like,
- 43:34Speaker 10: everything is moving. It is that they're shooting on the bulldozer, and, like,
- 43:37Speaker 10: you kinda can't hear, but, again, it's almost realistic, because
- 43:40Speaker 10: you're hearing mostly the bulldozer, and they're just kinda yelling
- 43:43Speaker 10: at each other, and The camera's moving this direction, the
- 43:45Speaker 10: bulldozer's moving the opposite, and it's like, it's a really
- 43:48Speaker 10: well put together shot. I have to give him credit
- 43:50Speaker 10: for that. That's probably one of the most impressive, you know,
- 43:53Speaker 10: visual pieces in the movie.
- 43:54Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 43:56Speaker 10: But no, I was going to say that the other
- 43:58Speaker 10: thing I noticed on this one is they did it
- 44:01Speaker 10: relatively early, really. I mean, 1980... And she's still putting
- 44:05Speaker 10: out music, you know? It's like 2004, she comes back
- 44:07Speaker 10: with a whole new style of music. That's a big
- 44:10Speaker 10: window there that, like, pretending like the story's over in 1980. Again,
- 44:15Speaker 10: maybe it's just the perspective now. Because I'm sitting there going,
- 44:18Speaker 10: what about all these other years? I mean, it's like
- 44:20Speaker 10: they wrap it up like, you know, and then she died. But, like,
- 44:24Speaker 10: we know there's this entire life that takes place after
- 44:26Speaker 10: this movie.
- 44:27Speaker 3: Of course.
- 44:28Speaker 10: I mean, I don't know that we need a sequel, but.
- 44:30Speaker 1: I guess the book.
- 44:31Speaker 10: Came out at a certain.
- 44:32Speaker 1: Time, and then they wanted to get the movie rights.
- 44:36Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess that's her decision to make
- 44:40Speaker 1: a book, to write a book at whatever, in the
- 44:42Speaker 1: late 70s.
- 44:43Speaker 10: That's what I thought was different about this one, though,
- 44:45Speaker 10: is usually they wait until they're gone. In fact, this
- 44:50Speaker 10: I know because I knew somebody who worked on the
- 44:51Speaker 10: movie Ray. They made that movie and finished it and
- 44:55Speaker 10: sat on it for about a year, year and a half,
- 44:57Speaker 10: until he died that's so because well they didn't want
- 45:01Speaker 10: to again being business people that they are we didn't
- 45:04Speaker 10: want to release it and have that be the week
- 45:06Speaker 10: that he died and people were like oh god i
- 45:07Speaker 10: don't want to see that like they were afraid him
- 45:09Speaker 10: dying would throw off the i again i'm sort of
- 45:12Speaker 10: elaborating on my own free will here but i'm pretty
- 45:15Speaker 10: sure that was part of it is they didn't want
- 45:16Speaker 10: it to hit it totally the wrong time which really
- 45:19Speaker 10: might work in the opposite way let's go celebrate his
- 45:21Speaker 10: life and see this movie but But yeah, I know
- 45:25Speaker 10: they shot it and then it was a good year,
- 45:26Speaker 10: year and a half after they finished wrapping before they...
- 45:29Speaker 10: And he died in that period. And they gave it
- 45:32Speaker 10: like another six or eight months or something and then
- 45:34Speaker 10: they put out Ray. And I was like, okay. I
- 45:37Speaker 10: was like, that seems weird. But again, they almost wait
- 45:40Speaker 10: until the end of their life and do a complete
- 45:43Speaker 10: story so they can have this big wrap up at
- 45:45Speaker 10: the end. Where this one's weird because... You're almost midway in.
- 45:48Speaker 10: She's just kind of middle-aged by the time this... But I.
- 45:51Speaker 1: Like that because that means that the movie can.
- 45:53Speaker 4: There's more concentration on her early, like her formative years.
- 45:57Speaker 10: Which again is the more interesting part.
- 45:58Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you watch some of these biopics, they
- 46:01Speaker 1: just do a little bit of that. Not enough. Not
- 46:04Speaker 1: enough to get a good.
- 46:07Speaker 4: Grasp of who this person was before they signed a
- 46:11Speaker 4: record deal.
- 46:12Speaker 1: So I like that this took its time.
- 46:15Speaker 4: So I don't know what Loretta Lynn's been doing since
- 46:17Speaker 4: 1980 other than putting out some albums and wearing some
- 46:21Speaker 4: pretty amazing dresses.
- 46:24Speaker 10: Well that's the thing I'm not super into country music
- 46:30Speaker 10: I like the older stuff and again I think because
- 46:33Speaker 10: that's very honest and very real and as time went
- 46:36Speaker 10: on I think it it hits a point where it
- 46:39Speaker 10: becomes self aware and I think that's when it really
- 46:41Speaker 10: kind of in my opinion started to suck And it's
- 46:44Speaker 10: that weird crossover in the 70s where you've got people
- 46:46Speaker 10: putting out great classic stuff. At the same time, people
- 46:49Speaker 10: are starting to realize this sells. There was that real
- 46:52Speaker 10: rush in the 70s of like it was hip to
- 46:54Speaker 10: be redneck for some reason. And all these weird like
- 46:57Speaker 10: redneck movies were coming out and all these like country
- 47:00Speaker 10: music took a turn and everything became a real yeehaw.
- 47:04Speaker 10: Let's describe what it means to be country.
- 47:06Speaker 1: Yeah, it became, like, it was like a joke.
- 47:10Speaker 4: The sincerity was lost a little bit, and it was overproduced.
- 47:14Speaker 1: I mean, I like some 70s and 80s country music, actually.
- 47:17Speaker 10: Some of it.
- 47:18Speaker 1: But, like, now it's pop music.
- 47:20Speaker 10: It's not country music. Well, it's either horrible, like it's
- 47:22Speaker 10: nothing but, like, redneck lists of things that make me,
- 47:26Speaker 10: you know, a cool redneck. Which is frightening. Or it's
- 47:30Speaker 10: totally pop at this point. It's just pop with a
- 47:32Speaker 10: fiddle in the background. Right. So it's not anything what
- 47:38Speaker 10: it used to be. But what I wanted to give
- 47:40Speaker 10: Lorelei credit for is as she continued to work, watching
- 47:45Speaker 10: her in 2004 team up with Jack White, you almost
- 47:49Speaker 10: have to give her credit for still trying to be
- 47:51Speaker 10: a vital musician that many years in. It's like she
- 47:55Speaker 10: was in her 70s making an album with this guy
- 47:58Speaker 10: who was, like, 28 at the time, and he produces
- 48:01Speaker 10: it for her, and he, like, plays on every song.
- 48:03Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 48:03Speaker 10: So trying to still be vital in the music scene.
- 48:05Speaker 4: She's, like, reinventing herself a little bit for younger folks.
- 48:10Speaker 1: And people love, people love Loretta Lynn.
- 48:13Speaker 4: Like, people who probably wouldn't have loved Loretta Lynn love
- 48:16Speaker 4: her now, because they, she came.
- 48:19Speaker 1: Out with that, it was Van Lee Rose's album. She
- 48:21Speaker 1: came out with that, and it was just, like, killer people.
- 48:25Speaker 10: Really responded to it it did sort of you know
- 48:27Speaker 10: reinvigorate her whole career and i bet a lot of
- 48:30Speaker 10: people went back and rediscovered the old stuff because of
- 48:33Speaker 10: that album but yeah it is kind of cool to
- 48:35Speaker 10: watch her cross over and work with somebody in a
- 48:38Speaker 10: totally different genre and yeah and who's you know much
- 48:41Speaker 10: much younger than her and sort of you know a
- 48:43Speaker 10: different dynamic that comes out of it so i i
- 48:46Speaker 10: almost give her credit as as somebody who didn't just
- 48:48Speaker 10: you know go down that same road or just wrap
- 48:51Speaker 10: it up when she got older it's like she really
- 48:53Speaker 10: did come back and find a way to be vital
- 48:56Speaker 10: again yeah it's kind of cool it's more than a
- 48:58Speaker 10: lot of.
- 48:58Speaker 1: Musicians do she's a firecracker that's you.
- 49:04Speaker 10: Do we think that rounds out the movie i don't
- 49:08Speaker 10: think i.
- 49:08Speaker 1: Have anything else inside of me i wish.
- 49:10Speaker 10: I did i think we've covered most of that.
- 49:27Speaker 15: Well, Portland, Oregon and Slogin Fist, if that ain't love,
- 49:31Speaker 15: then tell.
- 49:32Speaker 14: Me what is.
- 49:33Speaker 1: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
- 49:38Speaker 19: Well, I lost my heart, it didn't take me no
- 49:40Speaker 19: time That ain't all, I lost my.
- 49:43Speaker 1: Mind in the mornin' In.
- 49:47Speaker 11: The book in the corner with the lights down low
- 49:51Speaker 11: I was movin' in fast, she was takin' it slow Uh-oh,
- 49:57Speaker 11: uh-oh Well, I looked to him and caught him lookin'
- 50:02Speaker 11: at me I knew right then.
- 50:03Speaker 1: We were playin' free in the.
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- 51:15Speaker 3: Choosing a family movie is tough. It seems like all
- 51:18Speaker 3: Hollywood can do is make mindless drivel that rots kids' brains.
- 51:22Speaker 3: Who wants to see a.
- 51:22Speaker 18: Movie like what my dad watched when he was a kid?
- 51:25Speaker 18: Those films are so boring and the special effects are horrible.
- 51:29Speaker 18: The movies he grew up with are.
- 51:31Speaker 10: Sometimes a big surprise.
- 51:32Speaker 4: I at times feel uncomfortable watching movies I loved when
- 51:35Speaker 4: I was younger with my own kids because I forgot
- 51:38Speaker 4: how much cursing, sex, and violence they showed back then.
- 51:41Speaker 18: All we want to do is watch a fun movie
- 51:43Speaker 18: that we all like.
- 51:44Speaker 3: That's why we created Family Movie Night, a podcast where
- 51:48Speaker 3: we review movies from an adult perspective.
- 51:50Speaker 18: And from a kid's perspective.
- 51:52Speaker 3: So you can find movies for your whole family to enjoy.
- 51:55Speaker 18: We review new movies.
- 51:57Speaker 10: Old childhood favorites.
- 51:58Speaker 3: Cult and foreign films.
- 52:00Speaker 12: And Godzilla.
- 52:01Speaker 18: So check out Family Movie Night on the web at fmnpodcast.com.
- 52:06Speaker 18: Or find us on iTunes.
- 52:07Speaker 4: Bye.
- 52:07Speaker 5: We are the family.
- 52:14Speaker 7: We are the family.
- 52:15Speaker 2: It's part of your problem, you know.
- 52:16Speaker 5: You haven't seen enough movies.
- 52:17Speaker 3: All of life's riddles are answered in the movies.
- 52:19Speaker 5: And now, on with the show.
- 52:31Speaker 16: One of my fondest memories Was sitting on my daddy's
- 52:36Speaker 16: knee Listening to the stories that he told He'd pull
- 52:45Speaker 16: out that old photograph Like a treasured memory from the
- 52:50Speaker 16: past And say, child, this year's the family rose.
- 53:04Speaker 19: Oh, how it would bring a smile When.
- 53:07Speaker 8: He talked about her big blue eyes And how her beauty.
- 53:12Speaker 15: Ran down to her soul Shitwalk across the coal miner's
- 53:18Speaker 15: yard Them.
- 53:19Speaker 16: Miners would yell loud and hard And they'd freeze of.
- 53:23Speaker 11: Who would hold the Van Leeuwenroos.
- 53:26Speaker 19: She was the belle of Johnson County, Ohio River, the big.
- 53:33Speaker 15: City, a beauty to behold.
- 53:35Speaker 16: Like a diamond in the gold, all the miners, they.
- 53:42Speaker 19: Would gather round, talk about the man that.
- 53:46Speaker 8: Came to town.
- 53:47Speaker 19: Right under her nose, stole the heart of the Van Leeuwenroos.
- 53:57Speaker 10: Um i did want to get um just because we
- 53:59Speaker 10: we normally throw this in um and i didn't want
- 54:03Speaker 10: to disappoint on this one we're so um movie geek
- 54:06Speaker 10: oriented that we have a running segment that is our
- 54:09Speaker 10: geek activities so when i have people i like to
- 54:12Speaker 10: ask them what what their geek activities are if usually
- 54:15Speaker 10: if you're movie geeks you can even go into what
- 54:17Speaker 10: movies you like but Even if it's outside of that,
- 54:20Speaker 10: just whatever you get super geeky about and are into.
- 54:26Speaker 1: I'm in a fantasy baseball league.
- 54:28Speaker 5: Wow.
- 54:29Speaker 10: That is a different level of geeky.
- 54:31Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 54:33Speaker 4: It's just mostly friends from film school. And, yeah, I'm
- 54:39Speaker 4: losing really bad. But it's fun to keep up with
- 54:42Speaker 4: and to get a little obsessed about.
- 54:45Speaker 1: That's kind of my geek. geeky hobby i don't.
- 54:48Speaker 10: Even know how that works again it's too sports oriented
- 54:51Speaker 10: i don't think my brain knows.
- 54:52Speaker 4: How to process it's baseball and uh like all good
- 54:56Speaker 4: american things uh baseball has a place in it in
- 55:00Speaker 4: my heart um i feel like baseball is the is
- 55:04Speaker 4: the ozu of this my friend aaron says it's the
- 55:08Speaker 4: ozu of um sports like he's like like Like slow
- 55:13Speaker 4: and methodical and lyrical and beautiful. Like baseball is just this,
- 55:17Speaker 4: I don't, it's just this gorgeous thing to watch, especially.
- 55:19Speaker 1: In a night sky with the lights on. It's, it's like,
- 55:24Speaker 1: I think it's the film lovers sport.
- 55:26Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 55:27Speaker 10: It is a very, that's what I've noticed. I really
- 55:30Speaker 10: don't really care about baseball in the real world, but
- 55:32Speaker 10: there's tons of baseball movies that I'm like really enjoy. Yeah.
- 55:36Speaker 1: I love money ball.
- 55:37Speaker 10: There's something about that just visually and, and that there
- 55:40Speaker 10: is a very, maybe because it's a slow paced game
- 55:43Speaker 10: that you can build a actual story in the middle
- 55:45Speaker 10: of the games going on. It's, it's easier to do
- 55:48Speaker 10: that I think. So it's, It makes for some good movies,
- 55:51Speaker 10: if nothing else.
- 55:51Speaker 1: Very pretty. Baseball field is beautiful. It's just beautiful to
- 55:56Speaker 1: look at.
- 55:58Speaker 10: It's very iconic, too. There's so much Americana in the
- 56:02Speaker 10: idea of baseball.
- 56:03Speaker 4: I'm a sucker for American iconic anything. Like apple pie, baseball.
- 56:09Speaker 1: You know, this is.
- 56:12Speaker 1: Let me just bring up Bruce Springsteen again. These are just.
- 56:16Speaker 1: These are the things that really make me happy. Road trips.
- 56:19Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 56:20Speaker 4: I just.
- 56:20Speaker 1: Motels.
- 56:22Speaker 10: These things.
- 56:23Speaker 5: I love them.
- 56:24Speaker 1: So.
- 56:24Speaker 10: Those are good geeky activities. Yeah. I like weird roadside attractions.
- 56:30Speaker 1: Oh, I've done a lot of... My fair share of
- 56:32Speaker 1: seeking those out.
- 56:33Speaker 10: Those are awesome.
- 56:34Speaker 4: And submitting tips to, like, Roadside America and stuff.
- 56:38Speaker 2: That's maybe the greatest website that ever happened.
- 56:39Speaker 1: It is good. It's so good.
- 56:41Speaker 5: Yeah, I.
- 56:42Speaker 1: My actor, Brian, who.
- 56:45Speaker 4: came in for the Q & A last night. He
- 56:46Speaker 4: just rounded up his kids and his wife, and they're
- 56:49Speaker 4: at Cave City, and we're on Mammoth Caves right now,
- 56:52Speaker 4: and staying in the wigwams.
- 56:54Speaker 10: Cave City is awesome.
- 56:55Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 56:56Speaker 1: That place is just full of weird, amazing... Why is
- 57:01Speaker 1: this here? Like, what does this have to do with caves?
- 57:04Speaker 4: I'm not sure, but it's dinosaurs and Native American lore
- 57:10Speaker 4: and a wax museum of.
- 57:13Speaker 1: that's not been updated since the 1970s. It's great.
- 57:17Speaker 10: And again, the wigwams. If you're not from this part
- 57:20Speaker 10: of the country, yeah, there are motels, we'll call them,
- 57:23Speaker 10: that are shaped like a wigwam.
- 57:26Speaker 1: It's your own private wigwam.
- 57:27Speaker 10: And you get to stay in your own private wigwam,
- 57:29Speaker 10: which doesn't have cable TV.
- 57:30Speaker 1: No, there's no TV. Damn it.
- 57:32Speaker 10: There's no TV.
- 57:33Speaker 1: Isn't there?
- 57:34Speaker 2: There was TVs when I was there. They must have broken.
- 57:36Speaker 1: It's been a while. I went, and the last time
- 57:38Speaker 1: I was there was like six years ago. I went
- 57:40Speaker 1: probably seven or eight years ago. Maybe I got the
- 57:43Speaker 1: wigwam without a TV.
- 57:44Speaker 10: Yours is like the discount wigwam.
- 57:46Speaker 1: I do not. Well, there's two. Those are called Frank
- 57:49Speaker 1: Redford's Wigwam Village, okay? And that was, he patented them.
- 57:53Speaker 10: Oh, Lord.
- 57:54Speaker 1: Like the 30s or the 40s.
- 57:56Speaker 10: I would do if I were him.
- 57:57Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're all numbered.
- 57:58Speaker 4: It's like wigwam one, two, and there's like, I feel
- 58:01Speaker 4: like there's like 12 of them or something.
- 58:02Speaker 1: That he built.
- 58:03Speaker 2: Yeah, there's only three left.
- 58:04Speaker 1: Yeah, there's one in Arizona, the one in Kentucky, and
- 58:07Speaker 1: where is the third one?
- 58:08Speaker 2: There's one in California, but the one in California has
- 58:10Speaker 2: not been, it's like a by-the-hour wigwam village.
- 58:13Speaker 10: Oh, nice.
- 58:15Speaker 2: If it's even still in existence. Like, seven years ago,
- 58:18Speaker 2: whenever I was at the one here, it still existed.
- 58:21Speaker 2: It was one of three.
- 58:21Speaker 10: If you're going to do that, though, by-the-hour wigwam is
- 58:24Speaker 10: the way to go.
- 58:26Speaker 1: My heart hurts a little bit during that. I love
- 58:30Speaker 1: those things. I've stayed in the one in Arizona, too.
- 58:33Speaker 1: It's seasonal, right?
- 58:34Speaker 2: I feel like every time I've driven through, it's been
- 58:36Speaker 2: the off season.
- 58:37Speaker 1: I know the one in Kentucky is seasonal. They have
- 58:39Speaker 1: the cool old cars out front. Yeah. I went in November,
- 58:42Speaker 1: and it was open.
- 58:43Speaker 5: Oh, okay. Yeah.
- 58:45Speaker 4: It's like Kentucky's southwestern brother.
- 58:49Speaker 1: It's cool. I like staying in them.
- 58:54Speaker 10: Those things are awesome. So yeah, I like any of
- 58:56Speaker 10: those ridiculous have to see it to believe it kind
- 58:59Speaker 10: of things on the road out there.
- 59:00Speaker 1: Me too.
- 59:02Speaker 10: Those are awesome. So yeah, those are good for geek activities.
- 59:06Speaker 10: Anything you've been watching lately? I know you've been probably
- 59:09Speaker 10: dealing with the... festival circuit for a.
- 59:11Speaker 4: While yeah um i'm trying to think i've been i
- 59:14Speaker 4: got married in october and i've um been showing my
- 59:18Speaker 4: husband movies that mean a lot to me oh so.
- 59:21Speaker 10: We've been going through has that been working well or
- 59:23Speaker 10: Sometimes that doesn't go the.
- 59:25Speaker 4: Way you hope.
- 59:25Speaker 1: No, he likes them. Like, I just showed him Barry Lyndon, Paris, Texas.
- 59:31Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. So, it's been good, I think. Like, it
- 59:37Speaker 4: makes him understand a little bit what influenced me, I guess.
- 59:42Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 59:43Speaker 1: We've been kind of going through Martha's favorites.
- 59:46Speaker 2: Is he a film person generally, or just now he is?
- 59:50Speaker 1: He likes to go to the movies. He loves the popcorn.
- 59:55Speaker 1: It's like being in baseball.
- 59:56Speaker 2: I like the veggie dogs. That's the extent of my participation.
- 59:59Speaker 10: We just go there for the snacks. Is that what
- 1:00:01Speaker 10: you're saying?
- 1:00:02Speaker 5: No, yeah.
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: We just go for the snacks.
- 1:00:04Speaker 10: That was my favorite line.
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: That's the line from the movie.
- 1:00:08Speaker 10: No spoiler, but that's one of my favorite lines.
- 1:00:10Speaker 5: In the movie.
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: It's cross on me. Yeah, no, he does like movies.
- 1:00:13Speaker 4: He wasn't like, not like on the level that I'm on,
- 1:00:17Speaker 4: but he's, I think I'm slowly getting him to come
- 1:00:20Speaker 4: over to my side.
- 1:00:22Speaker 10: I've realized that's a prerequisite for me. It's going to
- 1:00:24Speaker 10: have to be. I've found out the hard way it
- 1:00:26Speaker 10: doesn't work the other way.
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: If they don't like movies.
- 1:00:29Speaker 10: Well, that's all I do at this point. It's like
- 1:00:31Speaker 10: I'm either doing this or I want to watch movies
- 1:00:34Speaker 10: on the side. So it's like that's all I bother
- 1:00:36Speaker 10: to do and care about. So if they're not involved,
- 1:00:39Speaker 10: it's going to end badly.
- 1:00:41Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: Well, he's very helpful. Like, he helped us shoot and stuff.
- 1:00:46Speaker 4: He's learning the ropes a little bit.
- 1:00:48Speaker 10: Whether he likes it or not.
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: Whether he likes it. He's a hospital priest. So this is, yeah.
- 1:00:53Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
- 1:00:53Speaker 7: That's sweet.
- 1:00:55Speaker 10: An adjustment?
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: Yeah, he's an Episcopalian hospital priest.
- 1:01:00Speaker 4: So I get a lot of really good stories from
- 1:01:02Speaker 4: the weird stuff that comes into the ER and weird tragedies.
- 1:01:07Speaker 10: You're writing them all down, right?
- 1:01:10Speaker 5: They're here.
- 1:01:10Speaker 10: They work their way in future.
- 1:01:13Speaker 5: They are.
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: Actually, in my next script, I have a guy who's
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: a hospital chaplain. He's one of the side characters.
- 1:01:19Speaker 14: So, yeah.
- 1:01:20Speaker 10: Sooner or later, they all work their way in.
- 1:01:22Speaker 14: They do.
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: It's true.
- 1:01:25Speaker 4: Oh, and I've seen like so many movies at film
- 1:01:29Speaker 4: festivals lately.
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: So many.
- 1:01:33Speaker 10: Well, that's, that's kind of what I was wondering with
- 1:01:35Speaker 10: dealing with everybody this weekend. How much of it do
- 1:01:38Speaker 10: you end up with the same people? Cause everybody sort
- 1:01:40Speaker 10: of tours around.
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: So yeah, I feel like I see them.
- 1:01:43Speaker 4: I mean, I see them more than I see my,
- 1:01:45Speaker 4: my friend friends and my family. Like I see my
- 1:01:48Speaker 4: film festival friends so much. Um, trying to think there
- 1:01:52Speaker 4: have been a few movies that have stood out and
- 1:01:55Speaker 4: weathering heights is here right now and i really liked
- 1:01:57Speaker 4: that um andrea arnold's really smart lady and there's this
- 1:02:02Speaker 4: documentary called low and clear that really spoke to me
- 1:02:05Speaker 4: and one of the subjects is town van zant's son
- 1:02:09Speaker 4: just no i can't remember his name but anyway it's
- 1:02:13Speaker 4: a fishing documentary it's about fly fishing but it's.
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: It's beautiful it's like one of the most beautiful movies
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: i've ever seen um.
- 1:02:20Speaker 4: But yeah, I've been missing a lot of movies at
- 1:02:24Speaker 4: the movie theater because I've been at film festivals. And
- 1:02:27Speaker 4: I'm seeing these movies, but I'm still like, When the
- 1:02:30Speaker 4: hell am I going to go see Men in Black 3?
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: When is this movie going to happen for me?
- 1:02:35Speaker 10: Oh, my God. Prometheus. I have to go see it.
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: I do really want to see Prometheus.
- 1:02:40Speaker 10: Again, as much as I'm worried about it, yeah, I'm
- 1:02:42Speaker 10: going to have to see it. I'm excited.
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: I just love weird space movies.
- 1:02:48Speaker 10: Well, Ridley's just gotten so hit and miss over the years.
- 1:02:51Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
- 1:02:52Speaker 10: Robin Hood. It can be brilliant and can be, what
- 1:02:55Speaker 10: are you doing?
- 1:02:55Speaker 4: How many different kinds of hats can we put Russell
- 1:02:58Speaker 4: Crowe in? Like, he can be, like, a winery owner.
- 1:03:02Speaker 4: What was that romantic comedy? I feel like there was,
- 1:03:05Speaker 4: in the trailer, there was, like, a tennis court and wine.
- 1:03:09Speaker 4: And lots of wine. And Russell Crowe wearing, like, little
- 1:03:14Speaker 4: smart spectacles. And then you have him as, like, Robin Hood.
- 1:03:18Speaker 10: You can cast him however you want. He still seems
- 1:03:21Speaker 10: like he's kind of a jerk.
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: But he's not in this movie.
- 1:03:24Speaker 10: Yeah, well, no Russell Crowe in space.
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: We have him.
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: We have Michael Fassbender, thankfully.
- 1:03:28Speaker 10: Well, that's because he contractually has to be in every
- 1:03:31Speaker 10: other movie made in Hollywood.
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: It's a rule.
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: He's good.
- 1:03:34Speaker 10: I'm not complaining. That's the thing. He's good in everything,
- 1:03:37Speaker 10: but he's in everything.
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true.
- 1:03:39Speaker 10: It's out of control.
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: It's true.
- 1:03:40Speaker 10: All right. Well, are there any projects in the works
- 1:03:46Speaker 10: you want to tell people about?
- 1:03:47Speaker 4: Yeah, I just finished the first draft of the latest script.
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: It's called Papaw Easy.
- 1:03:54Speaker 4: And I want to make it maybe in the winter
- 1:03:57Speaker 4: if we can get the money together, if not the
- 1:03:59Speaker 4: following winter, because it's supposed to be set in the cold.
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: Dead of an Appalachian winter.
- 1:04:05Speaker 4: So, yeah, we submitted to the IFP labs for their
- 1:04:09Speaker 4: emerging narrative, and we're just going to see how it goes.
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: I'm going to try to actually.
- 1:04:14Speaker 4: Find people to front the money instead of begging for
- 1:04:18Speaker 4: donations this time.
- 1:04:21Speaker 10: I'm still working on that myself.
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: Yeah, it's sad.
- 1:04:25Speaker 4: But I feel like I've already asked too much of
- 1:04:27Speaker 4: other people at this point.
- 1:04:30Speaker 10: But it worked to your advantage.
- 1:04:32Speaker 5: It did.
- 1:04:33Speaker 10: As much as you have to go through, it looks good.
- 1:04:35Speaker 10: I mean, having watched it last night, it doesn't come
- 1:04:38Speaker 10: off like a movie that didn't have the money to
- 1:04:40Speaker 10: put together it. It looks really good on screen.
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: Thanks.
- 1:04:44Speaker 4: Yeah, we had a good color correctionist who... who was
- 1:04:48Speaker 4: a film school friend. So we got like a really
- 1:04:51Speaker 4: cheap deal. It's all about pulling, getting people to.
- 1:04:54Speaker 10: As always, it's all who you know. Yeah, exactly. Well,
- 1:04:58Speaker 10: where do you want to, what's the best place to
- 1:05:00Speaker 10: send people to find out about it?
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: Well, Papo Easy's nowhere yet.
- 1:05:07Speaker 10: Or just, you know, you in general. I mean, also,
- 1:05:10Speaker 10: you know, telling people about this movie.
- 1:05:12Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:05:13Speaker 20: Just pilgrimsongthemovie.com and we have constantly updating screening dates and
- 1:05:19Speaker 20: the like and you can get on there and see
- 1:05:22Speaker 20: if maybe we're coming to a city near you we're
- 1:05:25Speaker 20: going to Philadelphia at the end of this month and
- 1:05:28Speaker 20: China in July so.
- 1:05:30Speaker 10: Go to we have international listeners so if you're in
- 1:05:34Speaker 10: China look.
- 1:05:35Speaker 4: Up the new youth festival and whenever they announce their
- 1:05:38Speaker 4: program so yeah that's all I know for the summer
- 1:05:41Speaker 4: and then in the fall it'll pick back up so.
- 1:05:44Speaker 10: Yeah very cool Well, if nothing else, we want to
- 1:05:47Speaker 10: thank you for sitting in with us this week.
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: Thank you for having me.
- 1:05:50Speaker 10: And putting together a fun show. I like working in,
- 1:05:54Speaker 10: and specifically because I wanted to throw the movie option
- 1:05:57Speaker 10: to you. So I don't know that we would have
- 1:05:58Speaker 10: gotten to this one without that.
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: Probably not.
- 1:06:01Speaker 10: But you never know because we end up on some
- 1:06:04Speaker 10: strange movies.
- 1:06:04Speaker 4: I just wanted to have a Kentucky theme. And I
- 1:06:07Speaker 4: was like, it's either this or Harlan County, USA.
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: And I didn't want.
- 1:06:11Speaker 10: To go into the Harlem USA today. It doesn't seem cheery, really.
- 1:06:14Speaker 10: It looks interesting. I do want to watch it now.
- 1:06:16Speaker 10: I know of it, but hadn't sat down and watched it.
- 1:06:19Speaker 10: And then watching the trailer again, I'm like, this looks interesting.
- 1:06:22Speaker 10: But yeah, it's not a fun movie, is it?
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: No, it's a great movie, but it's hard to watch.
- 1:06:29Speaker 10: So yeah, thank you to you and thank you to
- 1:06:31Speaker 10: Little Film Society for working with us and for letting
- 1:06:34Speaker 10: us come bust in here and record. So thank you
- 1:06:37Speaker 10: for letting us take over your space here. It is
- 1:06:41Speaker 10: much appreciated. If you want to find out more about them,
- 1:06:44Speaker 10: they are at flyoverfilmfestival.com or the Louisville Film Society is
- 1:06:48Speaker 10: at louisvillefilm.org. And music-wise, as we went into, I thought
- 1:06:54Speaker 10: we would go with one of the newer ones, talking
- 1:06:56Speaker 10: about her reinventing herself. But then I found a song
- 1:06:59Speaker 10: that also completely ties into this movie, more or less.
- 1:07:03Speaker 10: She did a song on that Vanley Rose album that
- 1:07:06Speaker 10: was called I Miss Being Mrs. Tonight. which is all,
- 1:07:10Speaker 10: it was written after Mooney died, and is all about her. It's,
- 1:07:14Speaker 10: you know, about her and him, and it's, you know,
- 1:07:17Speaker 10: basically that relationship is the heart of this movie. So
- 1:07:20Speaker 10: I thought, you know, what better way to go out
- 1:07:22Speaker 10: than with that one? So a more recent Loretta Lynn,
- 1:07:26Speaker 10: again with Jack White on guitar. So crossing over our
- 1:07:30Speaker 10: genres here. Otherwise, that about does it. We will return
- 1:07:33Speaker 10: next week. Same geek time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
- 1:07:36Speaker 8: I lie here all alone In my bed of memories
- 1:07:45Speaker 8: I'm dreaming of your sweet kiss Oh, how you loved
- 1:07:51Speaker 8: on me I can.
- 1:07:54Speaker 15: Almost feel you with me Here in this blue moonlight Oh,
- 1:08:01Speaker 15: I miss being Mrs. tonight like so many other hearts
- 1:08:14Speaker 15: mine wanted to be free.
- 1:08:18Speaker 21: I've been held here every day since.
- 1:08:22Speaker 15: You've been away from me my reflection in.
- 1:08:28Speaker 21: The mirror it's such a hurtful sight oh I miss
- 1:08:36Speaker 21: the un-missers tonight.
- 1:08:40Speaker 12: Oh, I miss the un-missers tonight.
- 1:08:49Speaker 19: Oh, and how I love them loving arms that once
- 1:08:56Speaker 19: held me so tight.
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: I took off my wedding.
- 1:09:01Speaker 8: Band and put it on my right hand.
- 1:09:07Speaker 15: I miss being Mrs.
- 1:09:09Speaker 8: Tonight.
- 1:09:31Speaker 12: Oh, I miss being a missus tonight Oh, and.
- 1:09:41Speaker 21: How I love them loving arms That once held me.
- 1:09:46Speaker 19: So tight I took off my wedding band And put
- 1:09:53Speaker 19: it on my right hand I miss being a missus.
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: Oh, I miss.
- 1:10:04Speaker 21: Being a princess tonight.
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: Yeah, this is Drifter.
- 1:10:13Speaker 10: This is a random Drifter, Martha. I just wandered in.
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: That'd be great. I wish I could be called Drifter.
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: It's not appropriate, though.
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