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Hour Three | NFL Draft Talk with Nick Underhill, Saints Strategy & Ask the Bench · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: live from the Raising Kine Studio. Here's Jacob Hester and
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  Speaker 2: J all right, welcome back in our number three of
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  Speaker 3: Co dot com is the website, all right.
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  Speaker 2: Every Tuesday nine am, we catch up with a guy,
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  Speaker 2: Nick Underhill, New Orleans, a dot football who joins us. Now, Nicholas,
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  Speaker 2: how we're doing, how we living?
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  Speaker 3: Sir?
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  Speaker 4: Doing good? Doing good? How you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Doing fantastic?
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, I think we're all still excited about some of
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  Speaker 2: the free agent moves that the New Orleans Saints have made,
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  Speaker 2: excited about the upcoming draft in Pittsburgh coming up in
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  Speaker 2: a couple.
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  Speaker 3: Of weeks now.
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  Speaker 2: But I gotta ask you, did you know that when
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  Speaker 2: the Saints sun Travis etn that it was actually Travis Chan.
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  Speaker 4: I had no idea. I mean, that's definitely the Pennsylvania
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  Speaker 4: at me. I was blown away when I heard that.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, there's no way that's it. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 4: we put your people's names all the time. That's not
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  Speaker 4: one that I would have like ask, hey, how do
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  Speaker 4: you say this? Like it just seems it just seems straightforward.
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  Speaker 4: I've been here for twelve years now, going on twelve years,
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  Speaker 4: and that one, that one caught me off card. I
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  Speaker 4: feel like I've acclimated pretty well, and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I guess I needed uh you know, I'm sure like
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  Speaker 4: Bobby Avier, every's like, hey, you idiots like I had,
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  Speaker 4: I had no idea. I had no idea.
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  Speaker 3: Well at this point it's on him a little bit though. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like I'm going to back you up here. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: your name's your name?
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  Speaker 2: And if Dabo Sweeney can't say you forced him to say,
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  Speaker 2: like coach, it's not Etn.
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  Speaker 3: That's not the way you say my last name. It's
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  Speaker 3: a chan. I got a brother. He's pretty good at
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  Speaker 3: football team.
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  Speaker 2: His first year in the league either, right, he's been
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  Speaker 2: a brother that we've called Trevor Etn.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they both have microphones. That's not on you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like you get to a lot of
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  Speaker 4: times you see people get to the league and they'll
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  Speaker 4: change you know, you know that their name isn't what
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  Speaker 4: you thought, like uh rel Reese, but just feels like
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  Speaker 4: uh like Mike Stanton. You know, it just took him
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  Speaker 4: like so many years. Then he comes out like you
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  Speaker 4: gotta you gotta do it early, man, Like you can't
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  Speaker 4: let us screw it up and just roll with it,
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  Speaker 4: like you just got to tell us that we're idiots
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  Speaker 4: and to fix it. Yeah, I was. I was surprised though.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was so Now moving forward, are you when
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  Speaker 2: you're talking about him as a new Saints player, are
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  Speaker 2: you going Travis a Champ?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah. I mean you told me,
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  Speaker 4: you told me your name is something different what I'm
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  Speaker 4: calling you like, I'm not married to anything. I just
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  Speaker 4: want to get it right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna wear a rubber band and every time
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  Speaker 2: I say eighteen, I'm gonna snap myself on the wrist,
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  Speaker 2: just so I trained.
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  Speaker 3: Myself to say it right. So we'll see how that goes.
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  Speaker 4: For you.
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  Speaker 3: A question for you, mel kiper overrated, underrated?
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  Speaker 4: I think mel mel does a lot of work. He
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  Speaker 4: put he puts a lot of effort in. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's it's tough like when you're your number one
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  Speaker 4: quarterback and then like you're you're like defiantly like fighting
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  Speaker 4: over it, and then you know, he goes into fifth
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  Speaker 4: round and then he doesn't play that great when he
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  Speaker 4: gets in the league. Like, you know, I think sometimes
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  Speaker 4: like the biggest flot for people, I think in our
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  Speaker 4: field and what we do is just like an inability
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  Speaker 4: to say, like, hey, I'm an idiot and I'm updating
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  Speaker 4: my take with new information and kind of rolling with it.
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  Speaker 4: But like he even kept like fighting with that all
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  Speaker 4: throughout the season, and I guess at that point, like
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  Speaker 4: you got so much stock in it that that you know,
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  Speaker 4: you just do it. But you know, I think Mel's
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  Speaker 4: very good at what he does. But I think he
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  Speaker 4: gets stubborn and gets married to some prior opinions, and
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  Speaker 4: I just think that's a mistake. Like if I think,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the Devon Beeley trade isn't good in September
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  Speaker 4: and then he starts playing well in November, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: gonna keep I'm gonna say, no, I was wrong, I
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  Speaker 4: was an idiot, Like I gotta update my take. There's
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  Speaker 4: no information, uh, you know, And it's I think sometimes
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  Speaker 4: he gets a little caught up in that and it's
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  Speaker 4: good for TV, but you know, it's just kind of
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  Speaker 4: now like the next quarterback seeing like like I don't.
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  Speaker 5: Know, I mean, I don't know what your problem is
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  Speaker 5: with your or Nick, but it's a little ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: No problem when he's a fifth rounder. You can't keep
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  Speaker 4: saying that he's that he's not, you know, like it's
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  Speaker 4: just he kind of got to know and if I like,
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  Speaker 4: if I'm hearing where where he's gonna go. No, Kiper
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  Speaker 4: certainly has heard it before I've heard it. He's way
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  Speaker 4: more plugged into that that than me. But it's just
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  Speaker 4: kind of like, you know, they get to a place. Look,
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  Speaker 4: I guess it's your opinion and not the league's opinion,
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  Speaker 4: but you also got to understand like, hey, look this
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  Speaker 4: is what I think, but this is where the leagu's going.
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  Speaker 1: Like that.
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  Speaker 4: That one just was tough for me. It was a
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  Speaker 4: tough It was a tough U. It was a tough,
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  Speaker 4: tough evaluation.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. So Melcaver had a new mock draft come out
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  Speaker 5: this morning and at number eight with the New Orleans Saints,
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  Speaker 5: Carnell Tait state wide receiver to the New Orleans Saints.
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  Speaker 5: How do you feel about it? I know, if you've
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  Speaker 5: talked about him on the show a little bit, but
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  Speaker 5: that's the newest mock draft. How would you feel about
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  Speaker 5: Carnel Ta?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like him. I like him. You know, I
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  Speaker 4: think I think any any weapon at this point will
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  Speaker 4: be a good will be a good pick, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I I think I prefer maybe I like all them guys,
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  Speaker 4: and if they took any of the three, like any
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  Speaker 4: of the Big three, I'd be cool with it. I
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  Speaker 4: got So it's kind of like you know, picking nits
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  Speaker 4: with with people that are really good, and I think
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  Speaker 4: they'd all be great additions to the team. I just
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  Speaker 4: think that you can get a different skill set, and
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot that goes into it, Like you got
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  Speaker 4: to be comfortable with Jordan Tyson's injury stuff, like, and
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  Speaker 4: that's a huge piece. You don't want to draft the
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  Speaker 4: a A man, I just walked into this. You don't
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  Speaker 4: want to draft like a you know, a proverbial Lemon.
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  Speaker 4: But like I like McKayle Lemon, and you know, I
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  Speaker 4: think he'd be a good fit for what they do.
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  Speaker 4: So you want to be careful if you're going with Tyson,
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  Speaker 4: just be sure, like have really good info on the
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  Speaker 4: medical I like McKayle Lemon, because I think he kind
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  Speaker 4: of fits. You know, if you're dividing the field out
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  Speaker 4: into three quadrants, I think you have people that fit
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  Speaker 4: into all three. Then if you take him and you
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  Speaker 4: got like a really good underneath option little dump boss
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  Speaker 4: over the middle of them, put crossers, quick slants, and
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  Speaker 4: he can make someone miss and I can go And
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  Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, Tate does a lot. I
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  Speaker 4: just feel like that is a three. He's the most
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  Speaker 4: similar to chrys Olave, and I feel like he could
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  Speaker 4: in an ideal world if everything's clean and you feel
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  Speaker 4: good about you know another. There's a lot of talk
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  Speaker 4: about Kaye Limon's combat interviews. The feedback I've gotten is
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  Speaker 4: that it wasn't an issue for the Saints. So I mean,
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  Speaker 4: if you feel comfortable with that personality, you're good to go. Tyson,
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  Speaker 4: you got to feel good about the injury stuff, you'd
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  Speaker 4: be good to go. And I think Tate's really good.
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  Speaker 4: I think he'd be a good fit. You can have
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  Speaker 4: two of those guys. But if I'm if I like
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  Speaker 4: all of them the same as the team and I
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  Speaker 4: feel good about some of the other stuff, I think
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  Speaker 4: maybe I go one of the other two first, but
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  Speaker 4: Tate might be the right access of heal's ability off
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  Speaker 4: field all that stuff, And if he is and he
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  Speaker 4: ends up being your top guy, I'd be totally cool
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  Speaker 4: with that.
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  Speaker 2: My only worry with Carnell Tate is that he's never
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  Speaker 2: been a number one receiver in college. Marvin Harrison Junior
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  Speaker 2: was that guy two years ago. Jeremiah Smith and look,
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  Speaker 2: those are really good player, so it's not even a
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  Speaker 2: slight to him. But I would have a hard time
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  Speaker 2: selecting a guy at number eight that has never been
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  Speaker 2: the number one guy at his position on his college team.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I mean, and that's an amazing point, Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: if you're if everybody's rotating to Jeremiah Smith and you're
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  Speaker 4: just getting the advantageous look every single game, Like yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I mean I think that's something you got to go
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  Speaker 4: into it looking at too. You know what. It feels
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  Speaker 4: like he can do everything. And I was at that
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  Speaker 4: Penn Stake game when he went crazy, So maybe maybe
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  Speaker 4: I got a little bit of you know, like judging
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  Speaker 4: him too much off the highs or whatever, But you know,
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  Speaker 4: I think I think he's good. But yeah, absolutely, like
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  Speaker 4: can he be the guy? Can he carry team. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I think those are all things that you got to
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  Speaker 4: you gotta have good answers for, and I think that's
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  Speaker 4: that's probably at the very top of that list of
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  Speaker 4: things when you're getting your staff together and you're discussing him, like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: look like is he is he a beneficiary of everything
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  Speaker 4: else that's going on here? We got all these guys
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  Speaker 4: and and he's over here, and we might have the
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  Speaker 4: best college wide receiver since Chase, Like what what, What's
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  Speaker 4: what's the impact on him? So yeah, I mean I
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  Speaker 4: think that's definitely something you gotta have an answer for
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  Speaker 4: it too.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, I want to go one more position, because I
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  Speaker 2: know receiver was what got kind of excited about. And
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  Speaker 2: then like you know, we do deep dies and you
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  Speaker 2: and I were both in Indie, so you start to
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  Speaker 2: hear the whispers of some guys medicals and where there
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  Speaker 2: at an interview process like you mentioned there. So if
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  Speaker 2: it's not a receiver, I love the Saints going monsur Delaine,
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  Speaker 2: not just because he's an LSU guy.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's a really good player. You lost Paulton
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  Speaker 3: a debo two years.
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  Speaker 2: Ago, you lose Alante Taylor this year, Kule McKinstry is
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  Speaker 2: just not taking that step that you need him to
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  Speaker 2: take to feel like you've got your guy for the future.
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  Speaker 2: I think you need a corner on this team and
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  Speaker 2: also like there's gonna be some teams because I think eight, nine, ten, eleven,
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  Speaker 2: and twelve are going to want a corner, So you've
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  Speaker 2: got some Like you're holding a really good spot as well,
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  Speaker 2: because I think the Chiefs need to replace their corners.
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  Speaker 2: Cincinnati needs all the defensive help. I think Miami and Dallas,
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  Speaker 2: they all those teams could use corners. So you got
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  Speaker 2: this like if you put it out there that you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna select him too, Like, there's gonna be some teams
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  Speaker 2: that want to, you know, maybe have a conversation with
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  Speaker 2: you about that pick. So if you make the selection
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  Speaker 2: at corner, I would feel really good about Monsieur delaying
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  Speaker 2: at eight.
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  Speaker 4: Are you predicting the Round one trade down for Mickey Bluhman, I.
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  Speaker 2: Know, I know, Well, if it was anybody else, I'd
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  Speaker 2: say it's almost guaranteed that's going to happen. The fact
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  Speaker 2: that it is Mickey, I'm like caution tape around it.
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  Speaker 2: But if he's ever going to do it, they are
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  Speaker 2: in a prime spot for what's probably going to be
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  Speaker 2: available to whatever literally like the next four teams behind
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  Speaker 2: them need.
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  Speaker 4: It's a great It's a great point too, because he's
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  Speaker 4: one of those inflection points in the draft that if
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  Speaker 4: you do need one, like you kind of got to
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  Speaker 4: go get them. And now they I think what they've
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  Speaker 4: done in their moves through throughout free agency is, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: when you start restocking the deck, now all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't really looking at the lane before He's It's like, well,
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  Speaker 4: there's just too many pressing these other places, and now
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, like they sign these guys and
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  Speaker 4: you start you like Blane like it makes sense, But
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  Speaker 4: whytn't he goes too? He makes even more sense. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you you definitely if you don't want him, you can
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  Speaker 4: definitely create the appearance that you do. It's fascinating to
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  Speaker 4: them though, too, because like I feel like it could
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  Speaker 4: be a good pick. I feel good about the two
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  Speaker 4: guys they got by, I could feel better like I'm
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  Speaker 4: not necessarily convicted to having Quincy, Riley and Coolly be
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  Speaker 4: my my one two punch, Like I could add a
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  Speaker 4: guy that that makes him be better if it makes
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  Speaker 4: my team better, go do it, I know in the spot, like,
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  Speaker 4: I think their preference is to kind of have a
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  Speaker 4: more of a of a safety play that position. Then
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  Speaker 4: then have it be a pure corner just for for
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  Speaker 4: the flexibility and the stuff Daily wants to do. But
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  Speaker 4: I think they'd be open to to, you know, going
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  Speaker 4: that direction if they needed to too. And I know
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  Speaker 4: they think Quincy Riley can play inside if he needs to,
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  Speaker 4: so it could be a way to strengthen up your
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  Speaker 4: whole entire group. The trade back is kind of fascinating
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  Speaker 4: because if he is like Delane could be that guy,
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  Speaker 4: and then I don't think there's a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: that that. People are going to be desperate the trade
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  Speaker 4: back in for so if he is there and you
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  Speaker 4: don't want him, and you know, kind of the top
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  Speaker 4: of the draft is a little bit weak. So if
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  Speaker 4: you feel like your franchise changers are gone, can you
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  Speaker 4: drop back a little bit there like he did? Do
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  Speaker 4: you do you trade back? Get another second? You take
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  Speaker 4: mesidor and and now you've got two seconds to go
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  Speaker 4: wide receiver, whatever, dart, whatever you want to do. I
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  Speaker 4: think Guard's still on the table. It would be a
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  Speaker 4: really nice way to stack the deck if if you're
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  Speaker 4: sitting there and I don't know, like you don't need
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  Speaker 4: Jeremiah Lovely anymore. You know, I think he's probably out
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  Speaker 4: of play. Uh, you know, a change seems like the
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  Speaker 4: guy there. It feels like Alvin's not going to be
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  Speaker 4: on the team. Maybe maybe you could draft k Tron
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  Speaker 4: Allen if you pick up another pick or something. It'd
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  Speaker 4: be it'd be fascinating to see them do that.
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  Speaker 3: Heyday.
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  Speaker 5: How many calls have the Saints received about trading Derek Carr.
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  Speaker 4: At the combine? It was zero And I have not
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  Speaker 4: caught a whiff of anything on that. And that feels
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  Speaker 4: like something where you know, it would just be something
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  Speaker 4: where the wind would blow and you feel the winds
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  Speaker 4: like it's something like you know, there's just certain things
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  Speaker 4: that like if someone called for Derek Cardon was about
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  Speaker 4: to happen, it feels like there'd be some some pulse
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  Speaker 4: there that that I believe would would come my way.
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  Speaker 4: To this point, no, and I don't see the spot,
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  Speaker 4: like where where's he going? Like is it Pittsburgh or
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  Speaker 4: Butch At this point, if Rogers doesn't come back, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know where else he would go. Uh, I guess
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  Speaker 4: to sell him stuff on the idea of the Raiders
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  Speaker 4: if they wanted them. But like, is Derek Carson? I
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  Speaker 4: feel bad saying this, but like, is he a guy
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  Speaker 4: you want around?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 4: Is he is he the is he the mentor for
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  Speaker 4: for a guy taking his job? It feels like no,
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't feel like that's something he'd want to do.
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  Speaker 4: So it feels like all the chairs are gone unless
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  Speaker 4: Rogers decides not to play.
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  Speaker 3: It was. It was kind of a joke. Obviously, nobody's
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  Speaker 3: going for Derek Carr. I think he thought they were, though.
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  Speaker 2: I really think like when he put that out there,
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  Speaker 2: he's like, oh, oh hey, hey David, watch this bro,
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  Speaker 2: And then like nobody called and he's like, oh boy, man.
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  Speaker 3: They're they're out there signing to a tongue of by
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  Speaker 3: Low instead of me.
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  Speaker 4: Do you have to say it like that?
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  Speaker 6: Man?
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  Speaker 4: That was basic.
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  Speaker 2: IM just saying like, I think you just overvalue like
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  Speaker 2: what the market was going to be.
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  Speaker 3: There's not a market.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, did did Cam Jordan take a shot at Tomorrow
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  Speaker 5: Davis last couple of days saying something about well, I'm
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  Speaker 5: not gonna go to a team with three wins or
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  Speaker 5: something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Did you see this?
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  Speaker 4: Was that? Was that the toront Armstead interview?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was.
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  Speaker 4: Actually Cam talks truly fast, and he says a lot
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  Speaker 4: of stuff man that I think. I think people just
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  Speaker 4: don't like the way he says that, like stuff just
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  Speaker 4: flies on the Kim can go like stand at the
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  Speaker 4: podium and shoot up the club and you don't even
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  Speaker 4: realize it until lady like did he say that? I mean, look,
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  Speaker 4: I was starting to Mario with in New York too,
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  Speaker 4: but he's got to do his right, Kirk for him
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  Speaker 4: and his family, so I get it. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: mean camp situation is fascinating, man. I think they're really
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  Speaker 4: in a in a I mean it's not even a think.
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: It's obvious like they're in they're in a standoff right now.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: And I think he sees his value at one place
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: and I think they see it about where it was
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: last year, and uh, I don't know, it seems like
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: if they want to wait it out, like they can
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: wait it out. I'm kind of surprised how hard lined
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: this has been. I kind of thought, yeah, I would
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: take a couple of days if they're kiss and a
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: half and Kam's that tarn like they'll just need it
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: eight or something like that, and it just it doesn't
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: seem like there's a lot of budget right now. And
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: I you know, I don't know, like there's two sides
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: of this franchise, legend all that stuff, Like probably he
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: probably deserves better is giving back money before. And they're
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: also a team that's you know, you kind of want
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: a team that that that's value and rides it. You know,
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: I would think there should probably be a little flex
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: for Cam. Him becoming a top ten NFL all time
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: stat guy in your jersey and finishing his career here
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: I think has value for everybody, and that's a moment.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: It's probably you know, worth a couple million bucks to
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: have in your building and have a memory for your
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: fan base. But you know, I get it from both sides.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: I'm just surprised that's playing out like that.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, catching up with our guy Nick Underhill, New Orleans
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Dot Football here on OTB. All right, Nick, I'm gonna
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: play this scenario out for the rest of the all season,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: and you tell me how you would feel if this happened. Okay,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: So for receiver, you look at what you have and
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: there's still veteran players out there. You've still got a
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: little bit of money to spend, and you go sign
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Christian Kirk and Keenan Allen. They could be a one
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: year deal for Keenan Allen as two year deal for
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Christian Kirk. After you do that, at eight, you do
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: take Monsieur Delaine out of LSU, So there's your corner.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: And then at forty two you select cash is Hell
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: out of a and M or Derek Moore out of Michigan.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: If they did that, how would you feel about what
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: the Saints have done this offseason?
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: I feel like you kind of just solved the off
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: season right there. Thank you like it. It's not necessarily
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: the past that I would have laid out if you
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: told me to go in all the splanks, but I
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: like it.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, you think, listen to me at owners meetings
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: coming up in a couple of weeks.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: Uh, you're gonna be out there.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna be out there.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: I'll see you out there. Yeah yeah, man. Like I
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: like I like the path though, I like to I
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: like the path. I like the way they're doing it.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: I really want them to get the young wide receiver
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: somewhere in there. I just feel like there's a lot
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: of value in that. And you know, you could get
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: the the RC cool version of Joe Burrow and Jamar
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: Chase by taking Chris Bell. And you know, I you know,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: it's it's it's a good soda, like it might not be.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: You think, like Bill's like a top seventy player, you
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: think maybe even in the third round, like he would
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: be available, or do you think you got to take
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: him at forty two?
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: I think if you like the knee, if the knee
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: checks out, I think I think probably probably in the
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: second like it's there, if it's sketchy on the knee
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: and it's looking more like an in season thing, you know,
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: probably around three. I've also heard some you know, whispers
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: about you know, just maybe maybe you know the the
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: the personality a little bit, just like some of the
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: you know, I think there's just some some questions there,
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: and I think that's why he came. He came here
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: for a top thirty visit. So usually when you're bringing
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: a guy in it because you got some lingering questions
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: or you know, in the case of a quarterback or something,
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: you want to get some expensive time with him. But
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: you know, I think that they wanted to check out
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: the knee, talk to him. I know Tyler Shock loves
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: him man, so like you know, and there's obviously some
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: you know, just aggressiveness with how he plays, and I
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: think that's good. I think that's what this team needs.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: I think this team needs some of that personality, you know.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: And and I didn't get the sense that there were
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: there were minuses on him the knee. The knee will
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: be the big thing, that'll be the determining factor. But
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: if you like him, like before the nagery, like I think,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: I think he was the top fifty player kind of
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: kind of universally, and then that kind of introduced some stuff.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: And then coming out of the combine and there was
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: a couple like yeah, I don't know about like the
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: interview or whatever, but you know, I think I think
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: if he's healthy, I take him there and I'd love it.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: Like kind of an a Brown type player, physicality, all
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: that stuff, and look Kellen more like for all the things,
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: like he knows how to handle those type of personalities,
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Like all those guys in Philly, nobody was crying about
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: not eating there, Like he knows how to feed people.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: You know, he he's young, recently played the game. I
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: think you understand if you have certain types of receivers,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: they want to work, like they want you to give
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: them pasks to do what works, like you need to
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: get them involved more kind of does that. So I
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: think I think all this stuff will buying up. I
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: like them a lot, but I like your path man,
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Like you get the bolster and corner is just starting
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: to feel better and better, and it's starting to feel
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: like maybe that's where you get the most bang for
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: your buck, Like yeah, I don't know, coming well, just
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: It's so deep at Edge Rusher that I feel like
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: at forty two you're still going to get a really
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: good player. You're not going to get the same corner
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: at forty two that you will get at eight. Now
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying you get the same guy at Edge Rusher,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: but if I get cash as Ou out of A
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: and M, who I think is a hell on wheels
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: off the edge, like you're feeling good about it, where
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I just don't know nick to that corner at forty
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: two is going to have that same feeling. Because if
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: we're talking about corner at forty two, it's probably somebody
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: maybe you can get a D'Angelo Ponce.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Who I like a lot. He's got some some pisson
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: vinegar to him. He's five.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that, Like
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: you can get the dress for there. Look, I think
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: you could probably get one in the third. And you
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: feel good about just rotational too, like there's just a
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: lot of guys, man. So yeah, but it's a forty two.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: I like it. I mean, I feel like you get
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: production there. You know, maybe maybe he's your third, but
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: you feel like really good about where he's at and
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: the arrows pointing up. So I'm with you, man, Let's
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: do a turn in the cart.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Hey, there we go. We did it. We figured it out.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: NICKI the man.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: We appreciate you every single Tuesday morning, so much so
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: that we'll talk.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: To you next week.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: All right, man, all right, Nick Underhill, New Orleans stuff football,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: good enough to join us here. As we said, every
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: single week. Sometimes he remembers, sometimes he forgets, you know what.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: He always answers the phone, which we can appreciate. I
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: do want to talk about that pick for Carnel Tait
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: though when we come back, so do have Like I
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: think it's a good player. But I would have concerns
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: selecting a receiver at eight that I've never seen be
• 21:15
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• 21:22
  Speaker 2: It was a one and a two. And I'll tell
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: you what I mean with a two to one situation
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• 26:11
  Speaker 3: The New Orleans Saints selected eight and forty two.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Now, look, I know our guy, Ross Jackson put out
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: a mock draft and he's got cardneal Tate going there.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: I just don't like the pick because I see value
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: in other players and this receiver class, to me, does
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: not have the game changer that you're looking for.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: And again, I think cardial Tate's a good player. I
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: think he's gonna play a long time in the NFL.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: But if you're going to select that position at eight,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: it's got to be a guy that is a no brainer,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: right because this is there wasn't like a Jeremiah Smith
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: and cardneal Tate situation, or a Marvin Harrison junior carneal
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Tate situation where it was Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: that was two ones. This isn't two to one situation,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: which is okay, doesn't matter mean you're a bad football player.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: In fact, you're a good football player. I can't Sele
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: liked him at eight right now. I would rather sign
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: two veteran receivers you traded for vele a young player.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: You've got Chris Olave who's still in the first contract,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: so you've got some youth in the position. You are
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: not set at corner right now.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Like when you look at the New Orleans Saints and
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: where they're at, you got kool aid and get them.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: At corner that ain't gonna play. You're going to go
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: get another game changer. And I think Monsieur Delaine is
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: that game changer. And again this has nothing to do
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: with him being an LSU Tiger, and it's everything to
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: do with him being the best corner in the draft.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: And you're sitting there at eight. I don't think that
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: you can get the corner you're looking for at forty two.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I think you can get a good corner. I don't
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: think you can get a Pro Bowl, all pro type
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: corner like you can get at eight now, Ed Rusher,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: I do think you can get the game changer. There's
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: gonna be so many guys that are available now you're
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: picking the seventies as well. If you went corner a
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: rusher receiver. I actually think if you do make those
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: signings of veteran guys, I like that. I think you've
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: done a great job. I just right now, there's not
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: a receiver at eight that I think changes the math
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: of your franchise and put you in a completely different position.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Like if you select the corner or even if you
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: wanted to go edge rusher, if somebody fell to you
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: at eight and you went edge rusher at eight, I
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: think that makes you a better football team than any
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: receiver in this draft.
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: It's one of those things that you desperately need a
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: number one. You don't have a number one, and there's
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: one obvious path to take it, and let's take one
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: at number eight, and I get it. Some people say,
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: you know, is that too high for a men sword delaying,
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: it's a huge need for you. Like, I think you
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: have to take him because it's either him or Jermad McCoy,
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: And McCoy is not going to make it out of
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: the first round either. You could actually trade back if
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: you wanted him, but you can't trade out of the
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: first round.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Missed all of last season, so do that.
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and he's coming off of an injury. I'd be
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: good with them. Like you said, either receiver, I mean
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: a corner, edge rusher receiver or flip it to go
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: corner receiver, edge rusher one, two, three, because there's a
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: lot of edge rushers in this class as well, Like
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: you could get a guy like Ramelo height in the
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: third round early if you're lucky like that. That's a
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: guy that played a lot of football this year and
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: had a lot of sacks. He's overshadowed by some of
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: his teammates, but a really good player, I mean, Chris
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: Bell will be there. Like Nick said, Chris Brazzle from
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: Tennessee actually had a really good year. Big body, ran
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: a good forty at the combine. There are a lot
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: of options for you in the second and third round.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: To your point.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: About wide receivers drafted number eight overall, did a little
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: quick search here of the wide receivers that have been
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: taken number eight overall in the NFL draft, and these
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: are kind of what your your comp would be if
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: you're looking to take some a Tedero McMillan went last
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: year number eight overall. Do you have a guy that
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: you believe can be that Drake London twenty twenty two
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: take an eight overall? Do you have a guy that
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: could be a comp with him? And then the next
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: one goes all the way back to David Boston back
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: in the day. Oh, I get yeah, overall, but you
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: have to you have to be real sure if you're
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: taking that guy. It's the same thing with Corner. To
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: your point, he like, if you're taking that guy eight overall, yeah, corner,
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: you're overdrafting at eight. And I've said that I don't
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: think they should take man Sore at eight. I love
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: man Sore and I would love for him to be
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: on the Saints. But trading back in the first round
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: is the answer to me. You trade, you're not going
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: to get Monster de Laye. You're not going to get him.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: It's fine. The Chiefs, the Bengals I'm not paying for
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: are all going to select him.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: That's fine. But I'm not overpaying for a corner, which
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: can hurt a team. You think eight's overpaying for a corner,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: that's not rhetorical. Yeah you think so. You're thinking fifteen
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: double digits, double digits? Yeah, well if you if you
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: trade that, because there's value going to be there, because
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: an eight holds a lot of value for a trade partner,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: especially in this draft.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, would I be mad, No, I don't be mad.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I just I'm gonna stick my stick to my guns
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: on this situation where don't overpay a corner.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: And there's two types of capital. There's actual capital, there's money,
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: and there's draft capital right overpaying like you could trade
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: you obviously that an eight is way more valuable to
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: a trade partner than a ten. So like that's why
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: I say, And if he gets to the double digit
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: round picks, yeah, take a corner, that's fine, But like
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: single digit corner, it's hard for me to wrap my
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: head around because I just have not seen that workout
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: very often.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think there's a gap between where montsour
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Delaine is and the next closest cornerback in this draft.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: So like you have to keep that in mind. If
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: you are the New Orleans Saints.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Now if Reuben Bain falls to you because people are like, oh,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: he doesn't have thirty one inch arms, then you select
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Ruben Bain. I think he's a game changer. He can
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: play across the board. I've seen him play a wide night,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I've seen him play a five, I've seen him play
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: a three.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: He can do all of those things at a really
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: high level.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: So like, if that situation happens, then yet you gotta
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: be smart and you can take the best player on
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: the board in a position of need.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: So there's ways the.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Saints can play this, but no way for me is
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: selecting a receiver at eight the best way. I think
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: d Rusher I would be okay with corner. I do
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: not think this draft is a selected receiver at eight.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: I would now like tedor Roe McMillan liked him better
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: than any receiver in this class, and he that's obvious choice.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, offensive rookie the year like it panned
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: out and they were real certain he was going to Yeah,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: and if you watch his table at Arizona, he was incredible.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I mean he can test to catch everything he did.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: If you're Mickey Limis, you have to say, is there
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: another tetor Roe McMillan, or is there another Drake London
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: in this Those are the comps at that specific pick
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: in the draft.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Don't screw it up. You're in a great spot.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Like, don't screw it up saying it's like eight right
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: now in this draft is a prime location spot because
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: I think a really good player is either going to
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: fall to you or you're going to have the opportunity
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: to get a desperate position of need.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: With your pick.
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: My thing is, if they pick somebody, it's going to
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: split the opinion of your fan base. Right, if you
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: actually take somebody if you if you trade back, I
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: would think the majority of people are gonna like it.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: They would like it regardless of who it is, because
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: they'd be so excited on thee Yeah, I don't care
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: who you draft. Just trade back and then you're gonna
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: win in the quarter of public opinion. Yeah, all right,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: we're long for a break. We'll take that break now
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: more ot B when we come back your way here
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  Speaker 2: Anybody got any plans for Saint Patrick's Day today? Like,
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  Speaker 2: I know, we celebrated this weekend. Are we gonna do
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  Speaker 2: anything Saint Patrick's Day related? Are we gonna, you know,
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  Speaker 2: watch the Leprechaun movies, So we're gonna watch Boondock Saints
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  Speaker 6: I don't think I'm gonna do anything exacond, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 6: jam to this YouTube.
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: No fish Orbano is at least. They are no fish
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: and chips for anyone.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: I love fish and chip to that those British, Yeah
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: it is Irish.
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: I always see them in like Irish pub. I don't
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: really even like the Irish.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: I mean Northern Ireland is part of obviously the United Kingdom.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: They have fishing. In fact, if you put Ireland in
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: the United Kingdom, they don't really like.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: That very much, which I get when I went. I
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: went to Ireland and a lot of bust plays. I
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: got a lot of smoked salmon. Okay, they like that.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: They have more natural the most places in America. Yeah,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: the salmon. Some nice food there created. Yes, fish and
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: chips is definitely not.
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: I thought it was British.
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: I've had them in Irish pubs. I guess it's both.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: I mean Irish pub and it's got fish and chips.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: So these Irish.
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: It was the Irish pub and Universal Studios. It's a
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: little bit of class here. Okay, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 6: I just googled where did fish and chips originate? They
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: originated in England.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: You got some bad news, go ahead, sorry, I what
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: was the.
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: Well? Okay, they were combined with Jewish fried fish techniques,
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: so they're actually Jewish. Okay, like Jewish immigrants from Portugal
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: and Spain brought fish and chips to London and Lancashire.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: Hey, melting pot. Yeah Leicester.
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: No no, no, it says l A N C A
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: s H. I no, I don't know if I nailed
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: it it Lancashire, Lancashire.
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: I'm not British people are learning so much this segment.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: You're about to learn something that I'm pretty upset about.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Christian Kirk just agreed to a one year deal with
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: the forty nine.
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll tell you that receiving duo. Now they can stay.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Healthy, doing pretty good. All right, Well, but we need
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: to too, and you can't afford Like Juwan Jennings is
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: gonna have to lower his price by the way. Yeah,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: he's still out there.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: And I appreciate you having self value, but the market
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: value was estimated to be twenty two point six per year. Dude,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: you're you're a week in the free agency. Ain't getting
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: If you get that, it's gonna be like a literally
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: like a one year, heavy incentive based deal. So right now,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Juwan Jennings, Deebo, Samuel tyreek Hill, stephan On Diggs, Keenan Allen,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Hollywood Brown uh Sterling Shepherd Tim Patrick, who's forever back up.
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  Speaker 3: But he's got a roll you know in the NFL.
• 40:08
  Speaker 7: If the price is low, I mean it's Jewan Jennings.
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: But to your point, like, what are you gonna get right?
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: You tried Brandon Cooks last year. That didn't work.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: That's not the receiver you need. If you can do,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: go get Keenan Allen and draft somebody in the third round.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: I feel much better about it.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Anyways, I promised still out there, I promise our listeners
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: we are going to get to ask the bench. It's
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: not that big of a deal. We're taking a break
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  Speaker 2: at forty six. We're going to get to your questions
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  Speaker 2: and keep a laundra happy. We're staying somewhat ish on time.
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  Speaker 2: On five Could Save Me, Food, Strange Wood, Desire.
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  Speaker 3: Make foolish people.
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  Speaker 2: Matt, who sings this song we did this to you
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  Speaker 2: you so you have to write already, asked this question
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  Speaker 2: about the song, Oh.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: I think I want one Guy's son. No, no, no,
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: that's Jacob Dylan of the Wallflowers. That one guy, that one.
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  Speaker 6: Did you know he's still alive he's actually coming to Batterie. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: at the Center Theater.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 6: I can't remember the two first names.
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  Speaker 3: Jeff George.
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  Speaker 1: I love that.
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  Speaker 3: I actually do love that. Hell yeah, Jeff George.
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  Speaker 6: This is Jeff George.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's chritsiing, but it's now going to be Jeff
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  Speaker 3: wicked game again. I won't remember it.
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: Butm like we were saying Isaac is spelled with a
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: K instead.
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: Of a C at the end, you would have been
• 43:30
  Speaker 7: right on Jacob Dylan would have been two first names.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: So see, so I got it.
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: You're basically right.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: I thought you were going I'm not going to I'm
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: trying Chris Isaac, Chris Isaac with a K. That's ridiculous.
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: Everybody complains in the chat how we don't do ask
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: the bench. Not one single asked the bench question in there,
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: not one single one. Here's actually I south it was one.
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: Would you rather be on home confinement for ten years
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: can't leave for any reason? Or be in state prison
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: for three years? I think state prison for three.
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: Years sounds better than ten, so I'm gonna go with three.
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: But also like state prison isn't what do you see
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: for any reason? I feel like people be vibing in
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: prison nowadays.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't take three years like you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to. You're gonna survive, dodge a couple
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: of shanks here and there.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: But I mean, so got an opportunity to join a
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: couple of friend groups.
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, work careful, be careful, you choose,
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: you know which brotherhood you choose. Yeah, don't shave your head,
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: that's right.
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: Got I love being at home. I'm a homebody. But
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: for ten years, I can't go anywhere.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: Can I get like a like can it be a compound?
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Go in the backyard and stuff?
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Hashtag asked a bench how we taking in the World
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Baseball Classic tonight?
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Way I've been taking television.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: I think they meant like you're getting food, like you
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: in a restaurant, you go to a bar. We're going
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: to be I know that we got base We have
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: a baseball practice today. So the beginning of it's on
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: the phone. The other half will be.
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: Will be will be official chips at the Irish the
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: local Irish club.
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: And then again I'm gonna say it again, absolute coward.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: For not being available.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Hashtag asked the bench is anyone else happy the trader.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Aaron Nola lost last night for the Italian American team.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: Hm hmmm. Actually would like to have him on the
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: American team m hm and bens of the team. That
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: was pretty electric stuff.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Hashtag asked the bench is there anything more untrustworthy than
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: someone with three first names for their full name?
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: Three first names? Have I ever come across somebody that's
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: three first names?
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Jimmy Johns had like James, Yeah, but like I just
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: don't you see it? If you meet a John, Hey,
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: so man John, Paul James, you're like Tommy John. Yeah.
• 46:12
  Speaker 7: What's his middle name?
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: John? His last name probably.
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: Thomas, Jonathan, John Jeff.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Hashtag ass the bench. Can you see baseball still making
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: it to Omaha? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yes, we talked about
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