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Wired To Hunt Podcast #230: Rut Radio 9/5/18 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This is episode number two hundred
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Speaker 1: and thirty and today the show we have back for
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Speaker 1: the third year in a row, our radio mini series
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Speaker 1: in which we are getting from the field updates from
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Speaker 1: all across the country on the latest and dear behavior,
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Speaker 1: activity and conditions. All right, welcome back to the Wired
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Speaker 1: to Hunt podcast, brought to you by Onyx, and today
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Speaker 1: we are here for the third season of our radio
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Speaker 1: mini series. We started this back in two thousands sixteen.
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Speaker 1: It had rave reviews. We've kept it going and we
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Speaker 1: are back now. I'm excited. And for those who are
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Speaker 1: not familiar, we have Spencer Newhart. You probably know Spencer
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Speaker 1: by now, but if not, he's a producer with the
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Speaker 1: show and helps us run Runt Radio. And Spencer, you're back.
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Speaker 1: Can you give us the once more the quick rundown
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Speaker 1: of what we've got going on in these episodes, what
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Speaker 1: we can expect here today and in the future. So
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Speaker 1: with each episode, uh, these will come out once a
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Speaker 1: week in the fall. All the way through January, and
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Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking to hunters from across the nation,
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Speaker 1: people who I really respect their opinion on white tails
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Speaker 1: and want to hear about what they're seeing. And so
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to them and interview them and bring you, guys,
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Speaker 1: um you know the intel that I think is super
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Speaker 1: relevant about what they're seeing for buck activity and hopefully
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Speaker 1: make it a piece of the puzzle for when you're
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Speaker 1: out haunting this fall. And if you're trying to say
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Speaker 1: between a couple of stand locations, uh, you know, maybe
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Speaker 1: something can be pulled from these thirty minute podcasts that
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Speaker 1: will help you decide on you know, what the deer
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Speaker 1: might be doing. Well, I sure as hell hope that's
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Speaker 1: the case, because I need a little bit of help.
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Speaker 1: I've been hunt in the last three nights, haven't got
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Speaker 1: it done yet. Do you have some information with our
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Speaker 1: guests today that's gonna help me put narrow in Montana?
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Speaker 1: Dere I. I think this will be pretty helpful because
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Speaker 1: of the four hunters we talked to today, two of
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Speaker 1: them tagged out September two kill and in August thirty
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Speaker 1: feet kill. So you'll have to listen and see who
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Speaker 1: we talked to that tagged out there, and we start
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Speaker 1: in Nebraska with Derek Lininger from the Lindsay Way. Then
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Speaker 1: we talked to Terry Hires from Blackwater Hunting Club in
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Speaker 1: South Carolina. Then we go to North Dakota and talk
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Speaker 1: to David g Arizo from Tagging Brigg and then we
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Speaker 1: talked to Josh Honeycutt from real tree dot Com in Kentucky. Nice.
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Speaker 1: I like it. We got kind of west, We've got
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Speaker 1: the middle of the country, we got the South. Good
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Speaker 1: job on that Spencer, Thank you. Now, Now what everyone's
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Speaker 1: wondering though, I just spilled the beans and told everyone
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Speaker 1: I haven't filled my Montana tag yet. Um, but is
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Speaker 1: Lieutenant Dan dead? Have you killed Lieutenant Dan yet? I
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Speaker 1: have not killed him. I've haunted two out of the
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Speaker 1: last three nights since opener and have yet to lay
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Speaker 1: my eyes on him. So we will see how that goes.
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Speaker 1: But I am not super confident right now. But it's
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Speaker 1: it's just a lot of fun to be out there
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Speaker 1: and early September like this. It's just totally different, um
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Speaker 1: on all your senses. So I'm having fun either way.
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Speaker 1: And even if I don't kill Lieutenant Dan in early
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Speaker 1: September here, I don't think that's going to close a
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Speaker 1: book on on me getting a chance at that year. Well,
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Speaker 1: I have lots and lots of questions about what You've
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Speaker 1: been trying to do so far, and I've got a
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Speaker 1: lot to share about what I've been up to so far, UM,
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Speaker 1: But we're gonna save that stuff for the main podcast
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Speaker 1: this week because on Thursday's episode, you, me, and Further
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Speaker 1: are all going to spend the entire podcast talking about
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Speaker 1: how our haunts have been going, what we've been doing,
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Speaker 1: what we've been trying, what's working. UM. Josh actually just
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Speaker 1: got to North Dakota today, so he's gonna start hunting tonight,
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Speaker 1: so we'll have two hunts in the books by the
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Speaker 1: time we record. UM, so last to share there. But
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Speaker 1: I guess can I spend my typical or your typical
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Speaker 1: question back at you really quick and just see in
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Speaker 1: South Dakota so far, how has the movement been at
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Speaker 1: a high level? Without giving away two men too much,
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Speaker 1: I I don't have a ton of intel from my hunts.
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Speaker 1: I'm hunting a fairly closed off area where I don't
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Speaker 1: have a huge view of, um, you know, like the
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Speaker 1: bean field that I'm hunting around, so my observations might
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Speaker 1: not be a great representation of what's actually going on.
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Speaker 1: But the weather right now looks really good for early September.
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Speaker 1: Like this, this is what you would want. It's it's
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Speaker 1: a cold front right now, and that's going to go
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Speaker 1: through all the way early next week. And so I
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Speaker 1: would say it's it's pretty good right now, probably a
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Speaker 1: seven or eight, But I don't have great intel. How
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Speaker 1: about you, Mark, what would you say? In Montana? Yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: it's been probably like an eight or nine. I mean
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Speaker 1: it's been really good. And I don't think that's because
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Speaker 1: of any kind of weather factor yet, because it's been
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Speaker 1: pretty hot. Um. But I've found this little tucked away
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Speaker 1: a couple of pieces I've tucked away public land that
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Speaker 1: are just really hard to get to that I just
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Speaker 1: don't think anyone ever goes to. And because of that,
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Speaker 1: these deer are very unpressured, very comfortable. Um. And I've
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Speaker 1: also found the right food sources. So because of that,
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Speaker 1: seeing great activity, and just haven't quite been able to
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Speaker 1: get everything put together. But but it's looking really good.
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Speaker 1: So probably an eight or nine. And as you mentioned,
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Speaker 1: that cold from that hit today, so it's gonna be
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Speaker 1: really good today and tomorrow, I think with those temperatures
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Speaker 1: dropping high BEARO metric pressure. UM, so I feel I
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Speaker 1: feel pretty good about things, about as good as I
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Speaker 1: could ask for. So things are? Things are lining up nicely?
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Speaker 1: Anything anything different? If you had to like summarize or
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Speaker 1: cliff note what the rest of the guys have told
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Speaker 1: you so far? Is that kind of what everyone's been saying?
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Speaker 1: Or are we unique? No, a lot of people are,
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Speaker 1: you know, around that seven or eight they feel for
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Speaker 1: what the bucket activity has been and a very similar
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Speaker 1: number for what they think it's going to be here. Um,
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Speaker 1: we're kind of seeing some unique weather across the country
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Speaker 1: and so that's playing a factor for what some of
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Speaker 1: these guys are saying. UM. But they also have a
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Speaker 1: lot of good food sources available. Um. And they've been
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Speaker 1: doing pretty vanilla setups for the most part too, UM,
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Speaker 1: kind of your typical early season field edge set up
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Speaker 1: or hunting over water. So there are still some intricacies
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Speaker 1: though to hunting this kind of year. And then they
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Speaker 1: can pick up on some of those things from these
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Speaker 1: four interviews. Awesome, Well, anything else we need to cover
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Speaker 1: before you can take it away? With the interviews, I
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Speaker 1: don't think. So let's get to our first guest all right.
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Speaker 1: Before we get to our first update, though, let's take
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Speaker 1: S alright, and joining me on the line first is
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Speaker 1: Derek lining Or of Nebraska from the Lindsay Way. Now, Derek,
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Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten, what would you
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Speaker 1: say the buck activity has been lately? Oh, lately, I'd
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Speaker 1: say this last week it's been uh, probably seven out
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Speaker 1: of ten it's hit or miss. I've been uh. This
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Speaker 1: time of year, I really plan on the first six
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Speaker 1: days of hunting season to uh capitalize because I leave
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Speaker 1: that seventh eighth to get down to Georgia with the
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Speaker 1: Jeff and David to uh hit the Georgian Georgia opener.
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Speaker 1: So I really plan all my food plots and everything
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Speaker 1: around these first six days. And ever since Nebraska opened
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Speaker 1: their season up on September one, it's it's helped a lot,
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Speaker 1: you know, get those bucks closer to velvet and they're
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Speaker 1: still on their summer patterns. So right now, uh clover
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Speaker 1: this first week. Actually the last four years, me and
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Speaker 1: my wife have killed a deer on this exact same
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Speaker 1: plot in uh out of the same tree stand, four
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Speaker 1: years in a row. And so I would say, clover,
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Speaker 1: uh this first week. If you don't have any beans around, beans,
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Speaker 1: I think with trump clover, but in a section that
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Speaker 1: I have, there's no other food besides my clover plot
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Speaker 1: and a little off alfa, and I strategized and cut
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Speaker 1: my clover about two weeks ago so i'd have a
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Speaker 1: good regrowth and Uh, it paid off. Well. You killed
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Speaker 1: an awesome buck there on the second sid of the
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Speaker 1: season four. You in September two, tell us a little
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Speaker 1: bit about that buck and about that hunt, you bet.
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Speaker 1: So it's a deer that my son Cole called Slade.
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Speaker 1: It's off a superhero movie, I guess, but uh, I'm
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Speaker 1: not familiar with that one. But he called it Slade,
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Speaker 1: and so I went with it. But there was a
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Speaker 1: last year was a three year old, and uh in
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Speaker 1: my area, you know, Jeff and David always preached five
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Speaker 1: years or old there. But obviously they're their properties are
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Speaker 1: a little well, more well managed and have better neighbors
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Speaker 1: in the area where I live in southeast Nebraska, about
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Speaker 1: twenty minutes from Lincoln, so it's very heavily populated area.
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Speaker 1: I have actually have about six acres of state you know,
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Speaker 1: public ground across the road for me and a lot
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Speaker 1: of uh if it's brown, it's down neighbors. So if
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Speaker 1: a deer gets to four for me, it's it's uh,
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Speaker 1: it's considered a five year old in my area and
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Speaker 1: in my opinion and whatnot. So you kind of I
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Speaker 1: set my age structure based on, you know, the situations
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Speaker 1: that I have here, but uh, but no, it was
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Speaker 1: it's been raining since Saturday night, opening night. It was
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Speaker 1: raining on me the whole time, and the deer moved
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Speaker 1: a little bit, but I didn't see any bucks, and
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Speaker 1: the bucks, the buck that I shot, actually didn't even
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Speaker 1: show up on camera that night. I run spartan cell
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Speaker 1: camera on this clover plot, and uh, always with an
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Speaker 1: easterly wind, it didn't matter if it was southeast northeast,
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Speaker 1: any easterly wind, he would usually show up in daylight.
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Speaker 1: But Saturday night, opening night that wind, and uh, there
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Speaker 1: was not much of a wind. It was just uh
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Speaker 1: kind of calm, and I've noticed that deer don't like
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Speaker 1: to move when it's calmer in my area. But and
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Speaker 1: then the rain held him back. But the next day,
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Speaker 1: Saturday or Sunday, when I killed him, there's a nice
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Speaker 1: twelve twelve mom our wind and uh, straight out of
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Speaker 1: the east, and it was a little bit of a
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Speaker 1: cooler wind, and I just felt right. And the rain
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Speaker 1: had it rained all afternoon up until the last two hours,
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Speaker 1: and I think once we got that break, they got
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Speaker 1: up on their feet and he was coming to a
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Speaker 1: plot about eight fift with another buck that's a five
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Speaker 1: year old that I had, and uh, they came walking
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Speaker 1: down the trail at eight oh five, so a little earlier,
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Speaker 1: and stopped at twenty six yards and I was able
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Speaker 1: to make a good shot and recover them pretty quick.
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Speaker 1: That was an awesome dear. No matter where you're at her,
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Speaker 1: what kind of property hunts. So you know, I'd be
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Speaker 1: static with a September second buck like that. Now you
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Speaker 1: touched on it a little bit there talking about that hunts.
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Speaker 1: But you guys have had some unique weather as of late.
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Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about those monsoon like conditions
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Speaker 1: that you've experienced in Nebraska. Yeah, so since uh, since
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Speaker 1: let's see Saturday evening, it's either rain between one and
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Speaker 1: five inches in some of the area every single day.
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Speaker 1: So and it's it's coming down right now again and
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Speaker 1: we're almost that three inches just from last night. So
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Speaker 1: it's been NonStop rain and the forecast throughout the day
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Speaker 1: starting on you know when I was checking the weather
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Speaker 1: last Saturday or on Saturday, you know, looking at this
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Speaker 1: whole week, you know, the only week that I had
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Speaker 1: to hunt solid before I start traveling in filming Jeff
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Speaker 1: and David, Uh, it was rain every night and so
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Speaker 1: I was a little nervous, and uh, thank god, you know,
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Speaker 1: the one night that I I killed it, it didn't rain,
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Speaker 1: So thank the Lord that you know, I got that opportunity.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it looks like rain NonStop. And uh, Kyle
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Speaker 1: Carter or the other producer for US and land manager
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Speaker 1: over at the at Iowa, the Iowa farm, he actually
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Speaker 1: sat the other night and his brother's truck from when
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Speaker 1: he got in the treat and got out, his brother's
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Speaker 1: truck had water up to the headlights. So it's it's
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Speaker 1: been NonStop rain here and it's it's gonna kill the
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Speaker 1: deer movement for sure. I actually had the uck that
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Speaker 1: runs with the one that I had harvested the other night.
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Speaker 1: He was on camera at three am when it stopped raining.
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Speaker 1: So I think if a guy can get some breaks
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Speaker 1: at the you know, the magic hour in the evenings,
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Speaker 1: that they're gonna be really good these next couple of days.
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Speaker 1: But it's it's not looking like the rain is gonna
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Speaker 1: stop for the next three days going forward. Then in
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Speaker 1: this next week or so, what do you think that
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Speaker 1: buck moon is going to be on a scale of
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Speaker 1: one to ten in Nebraska? In Nebraska, I think you
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Speaker 1: know the movement's it's still gonna be good. You're still
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Speaker 1: gonna want to hunt if you've got good green beans.
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Speaker 1: Yet there's depending on when the farmer got the beans
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Speaker 1: in your area. If you've got a nice spot close
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Speaker 1: to bedding or a hidden area that you know near
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Speaker 1: some good bedding in timber, that he can still kill
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Speaker 1: him on the greens. And if we get some cool fronts.
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Speaker 1: I think tomorrow there's actually it's supposed to drop down
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Speaker 1: into the sixties, high sixties, lower seventies, So I think
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Speaker 1: these next couple of days, if it stops raining, a
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Speaker 1: guy can really capitalize if he hunts, if he's got
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Speaker 1: some good green plots, or if he's got good good
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Speaker 1: green beans, that if he's got a buck that he
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Speaker 1: knows is in the area, he could have a good chance.
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Speaker 1: But there is also a lot of beans starting to
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Speaker 1: turn in the southeast corner Nebraska. So I've noticed as
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Speaker 1: soon as those beans turn a little bit, I mean
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Speaker 1: automatically the deer shut off. So if you've got a
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Speaker 1: good rat gratish plot or any sort of good green
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Speaker 1: clover plot or a nice off off the field, you
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Speaker 1: can hunt. I would definitely camping out over those the
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Speaker 1: next couple of days. Yeah, so I think, you know,
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Speaker 1: this next five days, it's supposed to stop raining Friday,
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Speaker 1: and then into the weekend it's supposed to you know,
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Speaker 1: get some better weather. So I think, you know, anywhere
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Speaker 1: from a seven to a ten out of ten these
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Speaker 1: next couple of days, if the rain stops the movement,
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Speaker 1: the bucks are just starting to shed, they're still you know,
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Speaker 1: I think they've still got a good week or so
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Speaker 1: of summer movement and before they start getting hard horn
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Speaker 1: brain and moving all over all over the county. Congrats
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Speaker 1: again on the great deer and thanks for joining me, Derek.
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Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing some little lindsay Way work
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Speaker 1: this fall, all right, Thank you, sir, all right, and
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Speaker 1: joining us on the line. Next is Terry Hires from
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Speaker 1: Blackwater Hunting Club in South Carolina. Now, Terry, what would
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Speaker 1: you say the buck activities ben Leley on the scale
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Speaker 1: of one to ten, well, one to ten if you're
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Speaker 1: talking about it, you know, a week or so ago,
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Speaker 1: we were probably up there around i'd say around seven percent,
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Speaker 1: maybe eight. Now, uh, seems like after these bucks shed
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Speaker 1: the velvet, we go into a little bit low and
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Speaker 1: we're we're probably around the five scale on the scale
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Speaker 1: of five. And you know, and I don't know what
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Speaker 1: the reason for it, but it seems like when these
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Speaker 1: bucks shed their shed their velvet, they just they start
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Speaker 1: splitting up a little bit and um, you know, start
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Speaker 1: rubbing trees and but but they're not near as active.
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Speaker 1: Um is generally only in the late September early October
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Speaker 1: before they uh start getting moving a lot. You know,
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Speaker 1: in this part of the country, we we've got eleven
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Speaker 1: thousand acres were only on eight people a day and
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Speaker 1: um we probably said me five percent wooded and the
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Speaker 1: rest of its agriculture and most of that being peanuts
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Speaker 1: caught and corn, uh soy beans, that type stuff. Now,
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Speaker 1: you guys have the unique opportunity to hunt starting August
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Speaker 1: fifteenth there in South Carolina. How is the hunting change
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Speaker 1: from August fifteenth until now? Do those setups look similar?
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Speaker 1: Are you hunting a lot of the same patterns that
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Speaker 1: that those deer head back? Then? We do hunt the
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Speaker 1: same patterns. And you know, we're a little different than
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Speaker 1: some states because we can, you know, because we can
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Speaker 1: put out corn and that type stuff, and our our
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Speaker 1: road systems, you know, we were pretty flat with our
17:42
Speaker 1: road system. Uh, you know pretty much you can every
17:46
Speaker 1: three or four yards you can drive driving. You know,
17:49
Speaker 1: if a deer runs off, if you try them, you
17:50
Speaker 1: can get into another road. So you know, we don't
17:53
Speaker 1: have to put the hunters out and uh, you know
17:56
Speaker 1: routy man, we can basically drive right to our stand.
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Speaker 1: That's a big sparse it it helps, you know, with
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Speaker 1: the human scent um, you know, we can we can try.
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Speaker 1: I've seen some talk lately of hurricanes are on Florida,
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Speaker 1: and you know that's always a threat to you guys
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Speaker 1: are in South Carolina. How does that affect the deer hunting?
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Speaker 1: When those hurricanes started moving up the coast. Well, you know,
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Speaker 1: weather always, you know, a change in weather can be
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Speaker 1: a good, good thing. I mean, we get these these
18:26
Speaker 1: showers in here and cool things off. You know, these deer,
18:29
Speaker 1: I mean they're great. We're reading this weather, so you
18:33
Speaker 1: know it usually it usually helps us. Now if it
18:36
Speaker 1: gets rain and nasty and it'll shut them down for
18:38
Speaker 1: a while, and as soon as it you know, kind
18:40
Speaker 1: of clears back up, they'll they'll turn back on. And
18:43
Speaker 1: of course, I think most people know with the deer hunting,
18:46
Speaker 1: especially when you get into the cool weather. If you
18:48
Speaker 1: if you get a rain and a good rain, and
18:52
Speaker 1: after that it cools down the next day and it
18:54
Speaker 1: clears up. Man, that's that's just jimmy. When when they're
18:57
Speaker 1: on for sure we'll going ward than in this next
19:00
Speaker 1: week or so. What do you think that buck activity
19:03
Speaker 1: is going to be on a scale of one to ten?
19:06
Speaker 1: Well in the next week or two, Well will still
19:09
Speaker 1: be in the September. I mean it should get better
19:12
Speaker 1: if if if we're around the five or six, now
19:15
Speaker 1: get up there, six, six and a half. How wouldn't
19:18
Speaker 1: want to put much more than a seven because I
19:20
Speaker 1: don't want to miss lead anybody on that possibly eight,
19:24
Speaker 1: but you really just don't say the good buck numbers. Uh,
19:28
Speaker 1: it's see in a plasta seven mark to probably get
19:32
Speaker 1: into um like I said about the fifth to ten
19:36
Speaker 1: to October. All right, Well, thanks for joining me, Terry,
19:40
Speaker 1: and good luck to your hunters there at the black
19:42
Speaker 1: Water Hunting Lodge. Thank you, Spence, I appreciate the coal.
19:49
Speaker 1: Joining us on the line. Next is David Gizo from
19:51
Speaker 1: Team Tagging Brigg in North Dakota. Now, David, what would
19:55
Speaker 1: you say the buck activity has been lately on a
19:57
Speaker 1: scale one to ten. Honestly, this last week i'd probably
20:02
Speaker 1: say it was it was about a six out of
20:04
Speaker 1: ten UM. I actually I got lucky and shot a
20:07
Speaker 1: buck on opening night of North Dakota season on Friday.
20:12
Speaker 1: But since then the buck activity has gone pretty nocturnal.
20:17
Speaker 1: On the bucks at least that we're observing, seems to
20:20
Speaker 1: be splitting up a bit. We had, we've had a
20:22
Speaker 1: couple that have turned hard horn, so I think you know,
20:26
Speaker 1: their hormones are kicking in, um, They're starting to feel
20:28
Speaker 1: a little bit different, and the bachelor groups right now
20:32
Speaker 1: are starting to split up a little bit. On top
20:34
Speaker 1: of which, the weather up here has been average to
20:39
Speaker 1: a little bit warmer um so the daily activity in
20:42
Speaker 1: general for the deer, because it hasn't been the greatest
20:45
Speaker 1: over the past couple of days for sure. So that's
20:48
Speaker 1: kind of where we're at right now, hoping that things
20:51
Speaker 1: change over the next few days as we've got a
20:53
Speaker 1: cold front rolling in here. Tell me a little bit
20:56
Speaker 1: about that hunt where you killed that buck on August thirty. Yeah,
21:03
Speaker 1: so we we actually we came up here probably three
21:06
Speaker 1: weeks ago and set UM eight eight trail cameras up
21:10
Speaker 1: and on this particular spot. We've had three what we
21:13
Speaker 1: call shooter box four and a half plus year old
21:16
Speaker 1: deer coming in on a pretty regular basis, so we
21:19
Speaker 1: had higher hopes going into the hunt. Although like I said,
21:23
Speaker 1: it's been a little bit warm in a few days
21:25
Speaker 1: prior to the hunt. Um, there was not a whole
21:28
Speaker 1: lot of buck activity. And honestly, I think we just
21:31
Speaker 1: we just timed it up perfect on one of those
21:34
Speaker 1: one of those nights where it was just right and
21:37
Speaker 1: we saw a lot of deer. I mean we saw
21:39
Speaker 1: probably ten to twelve year before we saw him, We
21:42
Speaker 1: saw one of our other shooters before we saw Um.
21:46
Speaker 1: I think we had we had two bucks that were
21:49
Speaker 1: literally right under us for probably twenty minutes that really
21:53
Speaker 1: kind of held us hostage in the stand for a
21:55
Speaker 1: little bit. Um. But for whatever reason, these deer were
21:59
Speaker 1: up on their feet early that night. Um, it was
22:02
Speaker 1: a little bit cooler, and it was a little bit breezier. Uh.
22:06
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, like I said, the deer were coming from
22:09
Speaker 1: all different directions we were hunting, Uh, the edge of
22:12
Speaker 1: a soybean field that basically connected to a big finger
22:16
Speaker 1: of of a of a tree row, and the deer
22:19
Speaker 1: typically come from the back side of this soybean field
22:23
Speaker 1: out of these slews, and they worked their way through
22:25
Speaker 1: the soybeans and then they just kind of feed up
22:28
Speaker 1: and down the tree rows. Is what we've really observed
22:31
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years coming up here. Honestly,
22:33
Speaker 1: this has been one of our better spots over the
22:36
Speaker 1: last few years. So that was gonna be our tactic
22:39
Speaker 1: going into day one. And you know, it just so
22:42
Speaker 1: happened that we got lucky and and one of those
22:45
Speaker 1: shooter box came across the beans and literally read the script.
22:49
Speaker 1: I mean he ended up yards um, made a perfect
22:53
Speaker 1: double one shot and he fell within sight um and
22:56
Speaker 1: a matter of a second. So it was, honestly, for me,
23:00
Speaker 1: it was a dream true. I've I've never shot a
23:02
Speaker 1: velvet box before, but think dear today along with shooting
23:06
Speaker 1: the velvet box, so to to start off the season,
23:09
Speaker 1: as you can imagine, we're on cloud nine right now. Yeah,
23:12
Speaker 1: that was a textbook set up. It looked like the
23:15
Speaker 1: shot was great. The set up was like your ideal
23:18
Speaker 1: you know, early season stand location and and everything came
23:22
Speaker 1: together for you. Guys can check out that video on
23:24
Speaker 1: tagging Briggs facebook page and one of the cool things
23:28
Speaker 1: about these guys and why I enjoy following them is
23:31
Speaker 1: the quick turnaround time. Like you shot that deer on Friday,
23:34
Speaker 1: and I think it was by Saturday you had you know,
23:37
Speaker 1: fully edited produced video of that haunt up and and
23:41
Speaker 1: so it's really unique to to what you guys are
23:44
Speaker 1: doing now. I know you've been running some show came
23:47
Speaker 1: is there for a while. Tell us a little bit
23:49
Speaker 1: about what you've learned from from having those up for
23:51
Speaker 1: the last month or so. You know, it seems like
23:55
Speaker 1: we're in we're in that kind of finicky period right
23:57
Speaker 1: now where the box are starting you kind of feel
24:01
Speaker 1: their dominance. They're starting to a lot of them are
24:04
Speaker 1: getting hard horned right now. Some of them may be
24:07
Speaker 1: losing velvet, and they're starting to go from like bachelor
24:10
Speaker 1: groups to like, I don't know if I want to
24:12
Speaker 1: hang out with you anymore, you know what I mean.
24:14
Speaker 1: So it's it's it can be a great time of
24:18
Speaker 1: the year to hunt, and also it can be very
24:20
Speaker 1: tough because some of the bucks we've been watching for
24:23
Speaker 1: the last three weeks five days, and that's frustrating because
24:28
Speaker 1: you know what you're you're anticipating this coming out here
24:33
Speaker 1: and feeling good about coming out here, and all of
24:35
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, two to three of these other
24:37
Speaker 1: shooters are just M I A. And so right now
24:41
Speaker 1: what we're trying to do is just shift the trail
24:43
Speaker 1: cameras a little bit um. You know, it could be
24:46
Speaker 1: a hundred two hundred, three hundred yards one way or
24:49
Speaker 1: the other, and all of a sudden that shooters buck
24:51
Speaker 1: may pop up again, But right now it's just it
24:54
Speaker 1: really seems like the bigger bucks at least are kind
24:57
Speaker 1: of splitting off of the echelor groups, or at least
25:01
Speaker 1: they're starting to and they're starting to kind of go
25:06
Speaker 1: on their lonesome and and and do their own thing
25:08
Speaker 1: as they shed their velvement. So it's like I said,
25:12
Speaker 1: right now, we're just trying to play the weather and
25:15
Speaker 1: uh and trying and get lucky again and get one
25:17
Speaker 1: of these shooters coming out to one of our thoughts
25:19
Speaker 1: going forward, Then in the next week or so, what
25:22
Speaker 1: do you think that bucket activity is going to look
25:23
Speaker 1: like on a scale of one to ten in North Dakota.
25:27
Speaker 1: You know, I really think over the next couple of days,
25:30
Speaker 1: for like specifically, it's gonna be probably right around that
25:34
Speaker 1: eight out of ten mark. Um, I think the next
25:37
Speaker 1: couple of days is going to be the best hunting
25:40
Speaker 1: days of our whatever week to ten days up here,
25:44
Speaker 1: because the weather has finally switched. So we had we
25:48
Speaker 1: had temps in the high seventies, low eighties for the
25:51
Speaker 1: first you know, three to four days of the hunting season,
25:55
Speaker 1: and now we have highs in the upper sixties. It's
25:58
Speaker 1: getting down to the orties at night. So as soon
26:01
Speaker 1: as that sun goes down, I mean, it cools down
26:04
Speaker 1: quick when you're in the stand, and I really think
26:07
Speaker 1: that's gonna play a huge factor. Um. I am kind
26:11
Speaker 1: of foreseeing that these somebody's box, some of these shooters
26:14
Speaker 1: that we haven't seen in four to five days or so,
26:17
Speaker 1: are gonna reappear and it and you know, we shouldn't
26:21
Speaker 1: be hesitant hunting the spots that we've hunted over the
26:25
Speaker 1: past couple of days where we haven't seen a lot,
26:28
Speaker 1: because I think they're gonna return to those spots based
26:31
Speaker 1: on you know, the water, with the weather patterns, the
26:33
Speaker 1: pressure being high and all the overall cooler temperatures. Well,
26:38
Speaker 1: great inside, David, thanks again for joining me. Congrats on
26:41
Speaker 1: the velvet buck. I appreciate you having me on Spencer
26:46
Speaker 1: thanks a lot alright and joining us on the podcast.
26:49
Speaker 1: Last is Josh honey Cut with Real Tree dot Com
26:53
Speaker 1: out of Kentucky. Now, Josh in Kentucky, what would you
26:56
Speaker 1: say the buck activity has been lately on the scale
26:58
Speaker 1: of one to ten. Uh, From what I could tell,
27:02
Speaker 1: it's been like a free three and a half. It's
27:05
Speaker 1: been pretty poor daylight activity so far. Um. You know,
27:09
Speaker 1: there have been some people in Kentucky it's had some
27:11
Speaker 1: early success I had to expect regardless of the temperature.
27:15
Speaker 1: You know, there's always some success you know, that first
27:17
Speaker 1: week of the season, just because of the patterns that
27:19
Speaker 1: some of the deer are still in. Um. From my
27:22
Speaker 1: perspective though, what I have seen for the first few
27:25
Speaker 1: days of the season, UM, it's it's been a little
27:28
Speaker 1: tougher this year than normal. We've got a lot of
27:31
Speaker 1: patrons on this surties. The mass crop is a lot
27:34
Speaker 1: heavier this year, and believe it or not, it's actually
27:37
Speaker 1: started dropping already. UM. You know, there's uh so there's
27:42
Speaker 1: a lot of challenges which you know heavy get mass
27:44
Speaker 1: prop is good for the deer. Obviously that's good for
27:46
Speaker 1: the deer. Uh. But it makes the hunt and tough,
27:48
Speaker 1: and you know those those I've noticed a big shift.
27:51
Speaker 1: You know, I do a lot of scouting for a
27:53
Speaker 1: lot of trail cameras, and there was a huge shift
27:56
Speaker 1: about a week ago, about five or six days before
27:59
Speaker 1: the season harded. A lot of the deer that I've
28:01
Speaker 1: been watching on the different properties that I hunt, they just, uh,
28:05
Speaker 1: you know, immediately change all at once, within about forty
28:08
Speaker 1: eight hours, um, not all of them, but a lot
28:11
Speaker 1: of the beer that I've been keeping tabs on, they
28:13
Speaker 1: just they changed their patterns up, you know, almost overnight.
28:16
Speaker 1: So it's almost like that mass crop has started dropping,
28:20
Speaker 1: I believe. And the temperatures have been really what's that
28:23
Speaker 1: what's hurt us as much as anything, but had really
28:25
Speaker 1: stagnant hot temperatures, no fluctuation whatsoever. And as as you know,
28:29
Speaker 1: you know, that's that makes something tough. Under those circumstances
28:33
Speaker 1: with warm weather and a big mass cup, big mass crop,
28:37
Speaker 1: what would you say would be an ideal set up
28:39
Speaker 1: right now? Then to get them ature buck on the ground.
28:43
Speaker 1: You know, it's tough because you know, generally speaking for
28:45
Speaker 1: this part of the country, you know, especially to the
28:48
Speaker 1: places that I hunt, and uh, you know, you usually
28:52
Speaker 1: can pretty much bank on those deer being in there
28:54
Speaker 1: summer patterns that you've even been watching them on and
28:57
Speaker 1: following them on, you know, in June, July, August. Uh,
29:01
Speaker 1: they usually carry those into the first week at least
29:03
Speaker 1: the first week of September. UH, sometimes as late as
29:07
Speaker 1: the tenth of the fifteenth. So it's it's really made
29:09
Speaker 1: it a little more difficult this year. UM. And you
29:12
Speaker 1: you you gotta relearn the deer. You've got to relearn them.
29:15
Speaker 1: You've gotta figure out what their new patterns are. UM.
29:18
Speaker 1: I think a lot of those new patterns are. Uh,
29:20
Speaker 1: they're hugging a little tighter to the beds. I don't
29:22
Speaker 1: think they're getting up from their beds quite as early
29:24
Speaker 1: of an afternoon because the hot temperatures. UM. I think
29:28
Speaker 1: they're pretty much hugging and hugging the timber too because
29:31
Speaker 1: of the mass crop, you know, and you know they're
29:34
Speaker 1: already dropping. I've talked to a lot of people and
29:36
Speaker 1: everybody's hearing acrens at the ground right now. So, UM,
29:41
Speaker 1: it's that coming year where that shift happens. So you
29:43
Speaker 1: gotta get back in the timber with them, because you know, uh,
29:46
Speaker 1: for a lot of places around here. Up here can
29:48
Speaker 1: pretty much stand up out of its bed and immediately
29:51
Speaker 1: start eating uh eating mask. So uh, you just gotta
29:55
Speaker 1: get in tight to the beds. You know. It's a
29:57
Speaker 1: risk first reward type thing where you gotta you gotta
30:00
Speaker 1: get in as tight as you can without bumping them.
30:02
Speaker 1: But that's really what it's gonna take. And with these
30:05
Speaker 1: hot temperatures, if you don't have it here that's moving
30:08
Speaker 1: in daylight right now or at least in the afternoon. Um.
30:11
Speaker 1: You know, it kind of goes against a lot of
30:13
Speaker 1: the things that you hear that you read. Um. But
30:16
Speaker 1: you know, hunting mornings can be productive early season as
30:19
Speaker 1: long as you do it intelligently, into it wildly. So
30:22
Speaker 1: if you were to do a morning set up, then
30:24
Speaker 1: what would that look like? Well, it really depends on
30:27
Speaker 1: the situation. Every every situation. There's certain farms that I
30:33
Speaker 1: just would not hunt mornings this time of year simply
30:36
Speaker 1: because you can't get in there without spook and deer.
30:38
Speaker 1: But if you have a good entry and exit roots
30:40
Speaker 1: that you can use uh to get into a spot, Uh,
30:45
Speaker 1: that's that's gonna gets you to the tree s damn
30:48
Speaker 1: without bumping dere um you know that might you know,
30:52
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different scenarios out there, but one
30:54
Speaker 1: particular scenario might be, uh, you know you're gonna be
30:57
Speaker 1: closer to the beds you obviously you don't want to
30:59
Speaker 1: get out almost set sources in the mornings because you're
31:02
Speaker 1: gonna bump deer off. So you definitely want to be
31:04
Speaker 1: back in the cuff, back in uh, back and cover
31:07
Speaker 1: a little bit deeper than you normally would be. Uh,
31:09
Speaker 1: you don't want to travel past um big food sources
31:13
Speaker 1: on your way to this dand because you've risked off
31:15
Speaker 1: the deer. So so it is tough, especially early season,
31:18
Speaker 1: trying to get into a a stand location of a
31:22
Speaker 1: morning without bumping deer. But if you've got a spot
31:24
Speaker 1: that you think you can get to, um that's close
31:28
Speaker 1: to a betting area, that might be a staging area.
31:31
Speaker 1: It might be a you know, an oak flat that
31:33
Speaker 1: deer travel through as they you know, go from bigger
31:35
Speaker 1: food sources back to their betting areas. If you've got
31:38
Speaker 1: to assist a situation like that or a similar scenario, uh,
31:41
Speaker 1: it might pay to do something like that of a
31:43
Speaker 1: morning right now. Ordinarily, right now we'd still find bachelor
31:47
Speaker 1: groups hanging out together. Are you seeing that in Kentucky?
31:50
Speaker 1: In I'll tell you, it's been a weird year for me. UM. Typically,
31:56
Speaker 1: almost always our bachelor groups remain intact until about you know,
32:00
Speaker 1: the middle of September anyway, you know, I usually don't
32:04
Speaker 1: see the first bachelor groups breaking up until about September ten, twelve,
32:08
Speaker 1: and some of them even hang around into you know,
32:11
Speaker 1: the middle of September and even the end of September.
32:13
Speaker 1: I have even thing which is obviously the other end
32:16
Speaker 1: of the spectrum, But I've seen bachelor groups last into
32:18
Speaker 1: the middle of October, which is which is rare too.
32:20
Speaker 1: But this year it's been a little different. You know,
32:23
Speaker 1: the deer have started breaking up a little bit more.
32:26
Speaker 1: There's a particular deer I've been watching all summer long
32:29
Speaker 1: because that's there that I wanted to target in that
32:32
Speaker 1: deer just completely. He was on a heavy, heavy pattern,
32:35
Speaker 1: consistent pattern up until about the last week, uh leading
32:39
Speaker 1: up to this opening day. So up until about last
32:42
Speaker 1: Monday or Tuesday, he was on a really consistent pattern
32:45
Speaker 1: and then just changed overnight and he had been run
32:48
Speaker 1: with two other bucks and that bachelor group split up
32:52
Speaker 1: right whenever that Uh, that shift that changed, that transition happened,
32:58
Speaker 1: and that deer has been running on his own for
33:01
Speaker 1: the last week's per so. So those Batchelor groups, I think,
33:04
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they're but starting to bust up a
33:06
Speaker 1: little bit earlier than they typically do this year. Going forward,
33:10
Speaker 1: then this next week or so, what do you think
33:12
Speaker 1: that bucket TV is going to be on a skill
33:14
Speaker 1: of one to ten in Kentucky. I don't think it
33:17
Speaker 1: gets any better than it is right now. Um. You know,
33:20
Speaker 1: and there might be some people out there who are
33:22
Speaker 1: seeing something completely different than I am. There might be
33:24
Speaker 1: you know, they might be night and day. You know,
33:26
Speaker 1: my situation is may be completely different from what others
33:29
Speaker 1: are experiencing. UM. Hearing a lot of the same though.
33:32
Speaker 1: But I don't think it gets any better. If anything,
33:35
Speaker 1: I think it gets worse. Um, because you know, I've
33:38
Speaker 1: looked at the forecast in the next ten days, it's
33:40
Speaker 1: you know, consistent highs, consistent loads, there's hardly any variation
33:45
Speaker 1: and temperature. The only thing that we really got going
33:47
Speaker 1: for us in the next ten days is there's gonna
33:49
Speaker 1: be a lot of weather events and there's a lot
33:51
Speaker 1: of you know, you know, some people think you know
33:54
Speaker 1: out there say that you know rain events will encourage
33:57
Speaker 1: your movements, I'm gonna say they don't. Uh something else
33:59
Speaker 1: can you been onto? Are these hurricanes that are coming
34:02
Speaker 1: up through the golf Because if those hits just right,
34:06
Speaker 1: that can give us a little bit of a cold shot,
34:08
Speaker 1: a little bit of a cold front or dropping temperatures
34:11
Speaker 1: as those passed through. So that's something to keeping on.
34:14
Speaker 1: But if the temperatures remain staggnant and they stay hot, um,
34:18
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be tough. And I'd say that dear
34:20
Speaker 1: activity is gonna remain about us three or three and
34:22
Speaker 1: a half and maybe at four best for the next few,
34:25
Speaker 1: uh a few days leave, you know, up to the
34:27
Speaker 1: next seven or ten days. Well, I hope things turn
34:30
Speaker 1: around for you down there, and I always enjoy talking
34:32
Speaker 1: to you and hearing your reports. Thanks for your time, Josh,
34:35
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34:40
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34:43
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35:05
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35:08
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