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- 0:14And good morning, and welcome back to our one on one with a professional
- 0:18today on this Tuesday, I'm Nathan Thompson and for Tom Davis, and today
- 0:23we are talking with Michelle Freeley with Genteeva Hospice. Good morning, Michelle,
- 0:29how are you? Good morning? I'm doing great. It's a beautiful morning
- 0:32out there today, it absolutely is. It's a little bit foggy this morning.
- 0:35Is I came into work at well, you know, three p forty
- 0:38five this morning, but it's cleared out. Gonna be a nice day,
- 0:40about to ninety degrees today. So Michelle, you arguing with that Gentiva Hospice,
- 0:46And for those who are unfamiliar with what hospice care is, kind of
- 0:51tell us what that all entails. Absolutely, I'll give you the actual definition
- 0:56of the word hospice care or words hospice care. So, by definition,
- 1:00hospice is an advanced plan of care in which we focus on the needs of
- 1:04the patient and the needs of their family instead of focusing on curing or treating
- 1:10a specific disease. So it is absolutely one a plan of care where the
- 1:15patient is the focus. Sure, and not only is a patient to focus
- 1:19on that, but it also it gives that respite for those who care for
- 1:25absolutely a member's home health, whatever it might be. Yes, it really
- 1:29provides. It gives the family a chance to just be the family again and
- 1:33not have to be the primary caregiver because they've got someone else coming in there.
- 1:37We've got a team of hospice trained professionals coming in there to provide all
- 1:42the care, the hands on care, the psychosocial, spiritual, emotional,
- 1:46all that support is. It's a full team approach to patient and family care
- 1:49and then the family can really just be the family again. Sure, And
- 1:52you know, I think, Michelle, whenever people talk about hospice end of
- 1:56life care, there's a certain stigma that might be around. Some people might
- 2:00think that's a taboo topic to do so, and I know at Genteeva you
- 2:07do a very good job of breaking down that stigma and doing outreach like this
- 2:13to talk about the benefits of hostile Absolutely, that's exactly what what I'm trying
- 2:17to do is just really let people understand that hospice is not a scary thing.
- 2:22It is absolutely one hundred percent a gift to that patient and their family,
- 2:27and the earlier they can take advantage of that benefit, the better.
- 2:30It's going to be for the patient and the family. It's just there is
- 2:35such a stigma, and I think it's because when hospice was originated way back
- 2:38in the eighties, it was designed specifically for the last seventy two hours of
- 2:44life for patients that had cancer, and it was just designed to keep them
- 2:47out of pain. And we still have that focus. It's still a focus
- 2:51of pain management, comfort and peace, but it encompasses so much more now
- 2:55and it isn't just for the end of life. I hear people frequently say,
- 2:59oh, well, we're not ready for hospice, We're not dying yet.
- 3:01But the truth is, I mean, we're all terminal, right,
- 3:05Nobody gets out of here alive unless the rapture happens. But the truth is,
- 3:08you know, it's it's inevitable when when that time comes. It's very
- 3:14very important to figure out what your goals are, what your plans are,
- 3:17and how you want that patient to have their last their last time on our
- 3:21And there are certainly some benefits to being in hospice. I know you and
- 3:28Tom Davis have have talked about some of those things in the past, but
- 3:31what really are for those who are maybe looking at pre planning, or maybe
- 3:37they're in a situation right now where this is a solution that they need.
- 3:42What are those benefits there's been on hospice. There's so many benefits. I
- 3:46mean, just you know, I couldn't I couldn't probably name them all right
- 3:49now, but I'll give you if you I didnmic a few notes. So
- 3:52one of the things that people see when they have their family member on hospice
- 3:54care is an increase in family and patient satisfaction with how the care progress is,
- 4:00how they're how their days pan out exactly, so better symptom management,
- 4:05better pain control. The patient is less likely to undergo testing and treatments that
- 4:12may not be effective or maybe not even be necessary. But you know,
- 4:15our sick care system instead of a healthcare system where their health care system is
- 4:20designed. They want to treat, they want to treat, they want to
- 4:23treat. Physicians are trained to cure and treat. They're not. They're not
- 4:27really trained to deal with a palliative plan or a comfort plan. And so
- 4:31oftentimes when patients finally do make that decision or families finally make that decision to
- 4:35pursue hospice care, their satisfaction levels increase tremendously. You know, the patient
- 4:41is more comfortable, which makes the family more comfortable, less anxiety, They're
- 4:45able to really enjoy the loved one. Most patients are able to communicate again,
- 4:50you know, they're just when pain and manage. When pain and symptoms
- 4:54are under control, quality of life improves exponentially. So that is to me,
- 4:58that's one of the biggest benefits, is just a better quality of overall,
- 5:01a better overall quality of life. I'm stumbling for with my words today
- 5:04for him reality. May I need more coffee? Yeah? Maybe so maybe
- 5:10so it's you know, looking looking at that again, there's nothing wrong I
- 5:15don't think with making a plan for yourself or for a family member, not
- 5:18waiting until that last minute. You know, I think most of us have
- 5:26all experienced the death of a loved one and it's a difficult subject to breach.
- 5:32So bringing that comfort to the patient, bringing that comfort to the family
- 5:40is I think so important for peace of mind. Absolutely, And I've known
- 5:45some folks and you may correct me here, Michelle, but I've known folks
- 5:47who have been on hospice care for months. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely,
- 5:53there's really no there's no limit to how long they can be on hospice care.
- 5:57President Carter is a prime example. He was, you know, hospice
- 6:00forever and ever it seems like we have several patients who've been with us for
- 6:02over a year. There are guidelines Medicare guidelines say that a patient would be
- 6:06within kind of a six month window, but again that's very, very difficult
- 6:12to determine. I'm not god, I don't have a crystal well, I
- 6:14don't know, but you know what they The term that they use is,
- 6:17you know, within six months if the if the disease runs its normal course.
- 6:23Well, you and I both know there's no normal course for any disease
- 6:26with anybody, because everyone is different, right, So there are things we
- 6:30could go, Hey, look, if this person's dementia continues to progress at
- 6:33the rate in which it's progressing, now, their likelihood, you know,
- 6:38of a six month window is pretty common. But then they last longer.
- 6:42So I guess the point I'm trying to get across is you don't have to
- 6:46only be on hospice for six months. You can be on as long as
- 6:49you continue to qualify, and there's no limit. There's no minimum time of
- 6:55hospice and there's no maximum time. As long as you meet the qualifications,
- 6:59you can still on our care. And we are talking to Michelle Freeley today,
- 7:02healthcare or hospice care consultant with Gentiva Hospice, and we were talking about
- 7:08there's no final timeline here that we at least know of. Of course our
- 7:12creator will know. And I think that might bring up another topic here,
- 7:18because there is a thought amongst some people that hospice may actually speed up the
- 7:24dying process. Is that true? It's absolutely not true. I can see
- 7:30kind of where that idea comes from, because most people on hospice pass right.
- 7:35There are the times when patients actually improve a little bit or stabilize to
- 7:40such an extent that they no longer meet qualifications and so they graduate. But
- 7:44that doesn't happen a lot, you know. But I think where that idea
- 7:47comes from is that patients a lot of times when they're pain and when their
- 7:54pain is under control, their symptoms are managed, they're peaceful, and now
- 7:58they can peacefully has does that make sense to you? So it doesn't facilitate
- 8:03death in any way. It doesn't. It doesn't prolong the dying process,
- 8:07it doesn't shorten the dying process. We're there to let that patient pass naturally
- 8:11and peacefully and in comfort, so that there's no distress, there's no misery,
- 8:16the family isn't distressed, you know, watching them suffer, and it's
- 8:20a peaceful process for everyone. So the answer is no, we do not
- 8:24encourage the dying process. We do not facilitate death. We do not encourage
- 8:28it or speed it up or any of that. But sometimes patients, when
- 8:33they get comfortable, it's like okay, I'm ready. You know, they
- 8:37no longer feel the need to struggle and fight and you know, and continue
- 8:41to just be. I call it misery, you know. But so we
- 8:46don't encourage it. We don't make it go faster, but we do just
- 8:48make it peaceful. And actually, there are some studies that show that people
- 8:52on hospice care live longer than people with those similar conditions that don't have hospice.
- 8:58I think the most recent statistics show like twenty eight to thirty two days
- 9:01longer, which doesn't sound like a long time, but it's a month.
- 9:05And if you're talking about someone that you dearly love, that's a long time.
- 9:09You know it is, and you know that importance of having that comfort.
- 9:15Again, I stress me personally, I stress that when I talk about
- 9:20hospice care, because there is obviously a different way not passing in comfort and
- 9:26bringing that comfort not only to the patient, but again to the family members.
- 9:31I think that that is such an important thing whenever you're looking at end
- 9:37of life care for a loved one. Yes, we've had I've had situations
- 9:41in which the family is sitting here telling me, oh, we're not ready
- 9:43for that yet, We're not ready for hospice yet. And you know,
- 9:46we don't want to give up on dad, and it's not giving up.
- 9:48But then I go in and speak to the patient and tell them what hospice
- 9:52is all about, how we're going to help their family, and the patient
- 9:54said, sign me up. You know, the family is kind of being
- 9:58the ones that are dragging their feet in the like, yes, you know,
- 10:01I want this, I want this for myself, I want this for
- 10:03my family. So it really is, it is all about comfort and peace
- 10:07and and just you know, making it doesn't make the dying process any easier
- 10:11for us as loved ones watching it, but it certainly does make it a
- 10:16lot less scary. Absolutely, absolutely, and again Michelle Freeley with Gentiva Hospice
- 10:20here for those who are listening and maybe are saying, well, maybe I'm
- 10:24in that situation right now, maybe I have a loved one, or maybe
- 10:28I even want to do a bit of pre planning for myself. How does
- 10:33one get started? What are the steps here to get there? And then
- 10:39once it comes time for admission, what is that process like? So how
- 10:43I get started and what is the admission process like? Okay, if you
- 10:46want to pre plan, it's absolutely encouraged that anyone over the age of eighteen
- 10:50have an advanced directive of some sort in which you put in there that you
- 10:54know, I want to be on hospice care. I don't want to be
- 10:56on a feeding tube or you know, life support whatever. You can just
- 11:00actually just write that in to your plan of care that hospice is your is
- 11:03your choice, and so that's all it is for pre planning. It doesn't
- 11:07have to be really elaborate as far as getting someone started. You know,
- 11:09now the first step is just to call me and we'll discuss the situation.
- 11:13I'll find out what's going on with the patient, kind of see what you
- 11:18know, what your goals are, what their goals are. If we feel
- 11:20like hospice is the best option. Then I reach out to their primary care
- 11:24physician or specialist get an order for hospice care. When we send a nurse
- 11:28out to do an evaluation, if the patient meets criteria, we get them
- 11:31started. It's really pretty simple. Yeah, very good. So Michelle,
- 11:35how would one get in contact with you? Just give me a call.
- 11:39The best way to get a hold of me is to call me on my
- 11:41cell. It's nine one eight for zero four six eight nine nine. I'll
- 11:45say that again, nine one eight for zero four six eight nine nine.
- 11:50And I can help people whether they're here in Bartlesville, Tulsa, anywhere.
- 11:54Gentiva is a nationwide company, so I can help connect people with care with
- 12:00care centers all over the nation. I recently have helped a family that moved
- 12:03from Grove to Colorado when we got him on service with our Colorado branch.
- 12:07And it's really it's nice to have one contact so you're not having to have
- 12:11so many different phone numbers and so many people to try to contact you.
- 12:16Guys can just reach out to me and I'll take care of it from there.
- 12:18Well, you know that that is that's a very important benefit as well,
- 12:20because you know, all my family I'm very lucky. All my immediate
- 12:24family lives right here in Bartlesville. But as you just said, if I
- 12:28have a family member who lives out of state in another location, you can
- 12:31be a local contact for them, Absolutely yes, to help direct a course
- 12:37of care during the end of life process. Yep, that's incredible. That's
- 12:41incredible. All right, Michelle, Gentiva Hospice again, give your contact information
- 12:46so that's folks can get in contact with you about this amazing level of care.
- 12:50All right, It's Michelle Frayley my phone number nine one eight four zero
- 12:54four six eight nine nine. I'm with Gentiva Hospice where our place is by
- 13:00your side. Absolutely incredible, Michelle, Thank you so much for coming in
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