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Mom's boyfriend charged with dumping Mariah Woods in creek; Toddler's dad talks again to Nancy · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Serious ex M Triumph Channel one thirty two. The search
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Speaker 1: is still on tonight for three year old Mariah Woods.
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Speaker 1: The girl was last seen by her mother at her
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Speaker 1: home and on his Low County. The mother tells me
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Speaker 1: she last saw her daughter in the home at around
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Speaker 1: eleven pm when she checked on her. This is my world.
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Speaker 1: This is my angel. She said her boyfriend saw the
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Speaker 1: taller around midnight when he got up, and she says
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Speaker 1: he told her to go back to bed. She was
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Speaker 1: reported missing around six o'clock in the morning. The love
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Speaker 1: I have for this girl, the bond that I have
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Speaker 1: is my life. The child is white, three ft nine
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Speaker 1: inches tall, weighs thirty pounds and has blonde hair and
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Speaker 1: blue eyes. Not making sense to me about where she
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Speaker 1: could be at, who she could be with. Christie says
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Speaker 1: she doesn't believe her child could have walked off, as
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Speaker 1: she has weak bones and wear special braces to help
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Speaker 1: her walk. I love her, don't never let her go.
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Speaker 1: It gets to hold her tight. See her smile. We waited,
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Speaker 1: we watched, we prayed, we investigated. We turned over every
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Speaker 1: stone we could in the search for a beautiful three
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Speaker 1: year old little girl, Maria. Mariah missing, Mariah Missing. I
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Speaker 1: would wake up in the middle of the night, Maria missing.
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Speaker 1: The search for Mariah has come to an end. Her
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Speaker 1: body has been found. Three year old Maria is dead
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Speaker 1: and now we want the truth. We want justice. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I see grace, this is crime stories. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us. I want to go straight out to
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Speaker 1: a very special guest joining me right now. Mariah's father,
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Speaker 1: Alex Woods is with us. Alex, I feel like I
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Speaker 1: know you after all the times we have talked and
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Speaker 1: the time we've spent talking about Maria. When did you
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Speaker 1: learn her body had been found? About six evening? How
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Speaker 1: did you find this out? Alex? The one of the
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Speaker 1: lead detectives called me on the phone and told me
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Speaker 1: that they saw him Right's body. Alex, I just can't
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Speaker 1: tell you how sorry we all are here on Sirius
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Speaker 1: six two and at crime online dot Com. I just
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Speaker 1: kept hoping, for instance, when there would be a siding
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Speaker 1: and there were hundreds of tips pouring in when that
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Speaker 1: photo came out and we thought maybe this woman had
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Speaker 1: taken her or someone that wanted a baby like her
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Speaker 1: of their own. We held out hope to the very
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Speaker 1: very end. Alex, did you know that she was gone,
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Speaker 1: that she had been killed before they told you? Did
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Speaker 1: you have that feeling inside of you? Yeah? Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: think about Thursday evening Friday really started to hit because
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Speaker 1: it was like day three, day four, and I don't know,
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Speaker 1: I mean, like if a little girl, you know, Mariah
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Speaker 1: was out there wandering around somewhere. It was that hard
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Speaker 1: for her to survive, and if somebody would have had her,
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Speaker 1: I was hoping that somebody would have returned her, but
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Speaker 1: it just kept looking worse and worse. Have they told
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Speaker 1: you how they think she was killed? Alex, No, not yet.
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Speaker 1: They as soon as they found her body, they rushed Greenville,
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Speaker 1: North Carolina. Well, they was gonna perform the alktopsy and
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Speaker 1: I'll find out further information on how, when, why, not? Why?
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Speaker 1: But how and when and all that information, Alex. Do
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Speaker 1: they believe that Mariah was molested? I have not. I
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Speaker 1: do not know that me. They can I have, yes,
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Speaker 1: I think so. I hope and pray, not just for
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Speaker 1: the peace of mind, but I think so. Yes. I
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Speaker 1: have not heard that from nobody, because you know, they're
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Speaker 1: now just doing the altosics. So I don't know, Alex.
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Speaker 1: Was she clothed when she was found? I had no idea.
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Speaker 1: They did not tell me. All they told me was
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Speaker 1: that they found my baby girl. They found Mariah about
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Speaker 1: twenty minutes away from where we're at, twenty minutes away
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Speaker 1: from our home. For those of you just joining us,
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Speaker 1: you have been with us from the get go in
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Speaker 1: our search for Maria, and we have talked to every
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Speaker 1: single person we could think of. We have investigated in
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Speaker 1: every way we could the possibilities of what could have
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Speaker 1: happened to this beautiful little girl, Maria. If you look
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Speaker 1: at her online, looks like a little princess. And every
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Speaker 1: photo she's all decked out in pink. Her hair is
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Speaker 1: per quickly done. She's either usually wearing a big pink
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Speaker 1: bow or a tiara. She's perfectly coordinated her clothes, and
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Speaker 1: she got her long kind of blondish brown hair combed out,
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Speaker 1: and she just she's beautiful on the outside and on
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Speaker 1: the inside. And what concerned me out to Ashley Willcott,
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Speaker 1: child advocate joining us here on serious sex and two. Ashley, um,
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Speaker 1: she walked with braces akin to cerebral policy braces that
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Speaker 1: we've seen on posters and then ads about cerebral policy.
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Speaker 1: She could walk without them, a right leg had a problem.
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Speaker 1: But when I found that her pj's she went to
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Speaker 1: bedding and were by the bed and her braces were there,
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Speaker 1: that didn't make sense to me. I never heard anything
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Speaker 1: about any other missing clothes, which means she would have
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Speaker 1: been taken bring nothing on her pink and white undis
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Speaker 1: that that? Uh, no, me too. If someone yeah, you
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Speaker 1: go ask I just have to say me to me,
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Speaker 1: to me, to Nancy. We talked about it. It sounded hinky,
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Speaker 1: was my word, and it it continued to sound that way.
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Speaker 1: Law enforcement in this case has done an amazing job
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Speaker 1: of treating this not only as missing child amber alert,
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Speaker 1: which was appropriate, but they also have done a phenomenal
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Speaker 1: job at treating this also as a criminal investigation. And
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Speaker 1: sure enough, regrettably, and Alex, I can't thoughts and prayers,
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Speaker 1: this is murder. And I agree with you. What happened
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Speaker 1: to this little girl? What type of molestation, what type
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Speaker 1: of sexual anything for her clothes to be found in
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Speaker 1: the house. Well, another thing is there's absolutely no way,
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Speaker 1: as Alex Woods is telling you, this is Maria's dad,
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Speaker 1: did this little baby, who can could not even walk normally.
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Speaker 1: She could never have made it twenty minutes away, actually
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Speaker 1: about twenty five miles away from the home she shared
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Speaker 1: with her mom or siblings and the live in in Jacksonville.
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Speaker 1: She was actually found in a creek in Pender County.
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Speaker 1: And there's no way that happened naturally. She did not
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Speaker 1: wander away and end up in a creek that did
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Speaker 1: not happen, um to Vincent Hill, former National Police officer
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Speaker 1: and investigator Vincent Hill. It was also said that the
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Speaker 1: door to the home Mariah's home was a jar or unlocked.
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Speaker 1: I'm not really buying that because just the likely and yes,
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Speaker 1: I know what's happened, Vincent. I know people have come
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Speaker 1: in and taken a child. I know it has happened,
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Speaker 1: but statistically that is not going to happen. Vincent. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, Nancy, And first of all, my prayers
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Speaker 1: definitely to Alex Woods, Mariah's father. As a father, I
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Speaker 1: can't imagine what he's going through. But the fact that
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Speaker 1: the door was a jar, you know, the things I
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Speaker 1: as an investigator looked for our forced entry, anything disturbed
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Speaker 1: in the house. We didn't see any signs of that.
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Speaker 1: We didn't hear any signs of that. So you know,
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Speaker 1: that tells me it was someone that was very comfortable
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Speaker 1: with the house. Obviously, that's the conclusion we've come to
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Speaker 1: at this point because the chances of a perfect stranger
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the night walking through our dark
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Speaker 1: house without tripping, without waking someone, it's it's very slim, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: very slim at best. Well, Vincent Hill investigator joining us,
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Speaker 1: what do you make Alex was the first one to
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Speaker 1: tell me Mariah's dad that there was someone within that
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Speaker 1: little community, that little neighborhood that says they happened to
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Speaker 1: see someone leaving the home between three and four o'clock
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Speaker 1: in the morning carrying something. Now, I agree with you, Vincent.
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Speaker 1: I've always said that about the job in a Ramsey case,
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Speaker 1: It's hard for me to believe. And in in true or
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Speaker 1: just walks into somebody's house and takes the time to
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Speaker 1: kick back and write a three page ransom note longhand
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Speaker 1: or however it was written, and she'll acts not worried
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Speaker 1: at all. They're gonna be caught. And no, by no
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Speaker 1: means do I mean that Burke the brother or John
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Speaker 1: the father had anything to do with John Benet's death.
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Speaker 1: I do not think that they did. But I also
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Speaker 1: don't think that it was an intruder, uh, Vincent. So
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Speaker 1: in this case, what I'm trying to say is who
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Speaker 1: feels so creputial to just walk in somebody's own and
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Speaker 1: take the baby? Yeah, to walk in and just casually
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Speaker 1: walk out and you know, carry her out is just
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Speaker 1: unheard of like it just doesn't happen. I mean, child
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Speaker 1: abductions in the home. Yes, they happen. You look at
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Speaker 1: Polly Class, it happens. You're look in Ohio. It happens.
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Speaker 1: But the statistics are very very low for this to
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Speaker 1: happen the way it did back to Alex would This
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Speaker 1: is Marya's dad, and right now we are trying to
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Speaker 1: figure out using our brain power, Uh, what happened to
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Speaker 1: this child? This beautiful child. And nobody wants to know
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Speaker 1: more than Alex Woods Mariah's dad. Alex. I mean, according
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Speaker 1: to the witness statements, the mom says she put right
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Speaker 1: to bed around eleven, and the boyfriend says he saw
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Speaker 1: her at twelve and told her to go back to bed.
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Speaker 1: Now what what? The mother didn't hear any of that,
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Speaker 1: didn't see any of that, because I would typically get
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Speaker 1: up and either put my child into bed with me,
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Speaker 1: or go get in the bed with them, or I
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Speaker 1: would walk them. I walk them back to their bed.
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Speaker 1: I don't want my husband do it. First of all,
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Speaker 1: he sleeps through it anyway, But mommy puts them back
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Speaker 1: in the bed. So did she sleep through the whole thing? Alex?
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Speaker 1: It was her her daddy. Uh Christie's dad said that
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Speaker 1: they didn't get home until about midnight that night, and
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Speaker 1: Earl took her body at some point after that and
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Speaker 1: drove her body down to Maple Hill where she was
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Speaker 1: found and dumped her. Now are you getting that from, Alex?
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Speaker 1: Where are you getting the idea? He's talking about Earl Kenney,
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Speaker 1: who is the living boyfriend, the boyfriend of Mariah's mom.
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Speaker 1: He lived there with them. Now you're saying the grandfather
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Speaker 1: says they didn't get home until midnight home from Riley
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Speaker 1: where Earl and Christy was visiting Earl's family. All this
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Speaker 1: came from uh Vance Christie's daddy. Okay, so they were
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Speaker 1: the whole family was that the boyfriend's family visiting, and
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Speaker 1: they didn't give it home. They didn't even get home
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Speaker 1: until midnight, which is different from the timeline we've been getting.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if Christie's family was there,
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Speaker 1: but I do know that Christie and Earle and Mariah
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Speaker 1: was in Raleigh and then they came back and got it.
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Speaker 1: I got I got you that. That's what I meant
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Speaker 1: that Mariah and her siblings and her dad and her
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Speaker 1: mom and the boyfriend were visiting the boyfriend's family and
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Speaker 1: they get back around midnight. And you're getting this from
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Speaker 1: uh from Mariah's grandfather, right? Yeah? Correct? So what what?
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Speaker 1: What was there a confrontation? Would Maria not go to bed?
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Speaker 1: Was she crying and he hit her? I mean, how
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Speaker 1: did the mom not have any idea in the home
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Speaker 1: as small as that one that nothing was going on?
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Speaker 1: There was no crying, there was no screaming, nothing. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, Earl and Christy was in Raleigh.
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Speaker 1: They got home and they laid the kids to bed.
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Speaker 1: They were they were Christie to Earl to go to
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Speaker 1: Carol to go get Maria. Wait wait, wait, wait with
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Speaker 1: me right now. Also joining us is Maria's dad, Alex
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Speaker 1: Woods fiance Heather. Heather, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: What did what is your understanding from the grandfathers to
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Speaker 1: what happened? Okay? What how did this all story? We
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Speaker 1: have a mutual friend who works for Vance, which is
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Speaker 1: Christie's father. He called us crying the day the day
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Speaker 1: we found out after were trying out Morrisma and everything
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Speaker 1: and they were looking for her. He called us crying
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Speaker 1: and saying he knows what happened. So he called Vance,
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Speaker 1: called Vance put it vanel speaker from Vance. Now, however,
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Speaker 1: did not know that Alex and I were at Scott's
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Speaker 1: house because he was talking about it. But we heard
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Speaker 1: the conversation because Scott was like, now you know, asking me,
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Speaker 1: and Vance was saying that someone that was inside the
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Speaker 1: home had told him that like what had happened. And
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Speaker 1: he was like, because he was like, they're not going
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Speaker 1: to find Mariah, that they need to be looking around
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Speaker 1: the maple They need to go be looking up at
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Speaker 1: Maple Hill, around Maple Hill and around like around those
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Speaker 1: trails and stuff and like around the Maple Hill area.
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Speaker 1: And Scott's like, well, the Times you reported this, they
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Speaker 1: said that he did tell the detective that. Well. I
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Speaker 1: I also had told a detective that too before they
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Speaker 1: even found her, because I told him that this is
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Speaker 1: what we were with me is Alex Woods, Mariah's dad,
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Speaker 1: and his fiancee, Heather, who has really been instrumental in
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Speaker 1: conveying information throughout this whole horrible or deal. Um, Heather,
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Speaker 1: I want to get back to what you understand happened
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Speaker 1: in the home that night. I heard you say that
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Speaker 1: Maria was crying after they got home. Sense said that um,
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Speaker 1: that's what was put to him. Is you know they
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Speaker 1: were fine when they got home around eleven thirty, like
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Speaker 1: York twelve light midnight. Uh they put Maria to best.
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Speaker 1: She woke up crying. That Christie told Earl to go
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Speaker 1: handle Maria. Okay, that would be a cold a and
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Speaker 1: h G double l that I told my that would
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Speaker 1: go tell my husband go handle that, because hey, you
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Speaker 1: know he wouldn't do it right. They bless his soul.
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Speaker 1: I love him, but the uh no, and send some
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Speaker 1: living boyfriend to go take care of my child. But
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Speaker 1: anyway I could get it. You know, I understand you're exhausted.
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Speaker 1: You get home, you hear the baby call out, you go.
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Speaker 1: Can you please go see what's happening in there? Okay, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know what I do. Get it. So you're understanding
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Speaker 1: that Mariah was crying and the mom sends Kenny. Okay,
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Speaker 1: then what happened. They're trying to say that Earl got
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Speaker 1: mad and hit um Mariah and that well that one
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Speaker 1: of one one, either either Earl or Chris. One of
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Speaker 1: either are the mother or the mother's boyfriend hit Mariah. Now,
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Speaker 1: they said that they don't know for sure if like
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Speaker 1: they really like I said, they think it's like an accident.
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Speaker 1: You know. That's trying to how he was explaining, and
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Speaker 1: he said, well, I think they just thought, you know,
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Speaker 1: they didn't mean to intend to kill her. They didn't
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Speaker 1: even know that she was really if she was dead,
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Speaker 1: but they just panicked and they Christie told Earl to
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Speaker 1: hand to to to go get rid to get rid
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Speaker 1: of her, pretty much disposed of her, get rid of
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Speaker 1: helped hide to hide her, or else they're all gonna
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Speaker 1: get in trouble. And that's how it would happen. And
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Speaker 1: then that's when that's when Vant said, they're not even
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Speaker 1: going to find that baby around in the woods, that
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Speaker 1: they're gonna find her, maple who they need? Of you
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Speaker 1: searching around me? Will who? And that's where this other hether.
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Speaker 1: I just I'm so taken them back and so stunned
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Speaker 1: by what you're telling me. The allegation, which we have
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Speaker 1: not confirmed, that the mom said get rid of the
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Speaker 1: body or we'll all get in trouble, because she has
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Speaker 1: been publicly begging for help to find the baby, Heather,
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Speaker 1: where is this information coming from? This came from her
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Speaker 1: her dad, Christie's Dadvance. Her father said that oh my stars. Again.
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Speaker 1: We so what we figure is in order for him
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Speaker 1: to have known that, somebody else I'd have known that. Guys,
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Speaker 1: I want to just bring it down just one moment,
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Speaker 1: just just a manute here, because what I'm hearing from
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Speaker 1: Mariah's dad fiance Heather is just more than I can
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Speaker 1: even take in. And uh to Dave MC, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: get right to you. But Dr Daniel Bober forensic psychiatrist,
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Speaker 1: it's to say, get rid of the body or we're
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Speaker 1: all going to get in trouble. That's very hard for
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Speaker 1: me to take in us too, because, like I would set,
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Speaker 1: there's really no words Nancy. I mean, this is just terrific.
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Speaker 1: In my thoughts and prayers out to the Woods family. UM,
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Speaker 1: I'm still trying to have I'm still trying to struggle
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Speaker 1: with what the manner in which the child died, uh,
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Speaker 1: and was this Obviously there was an attempt to conceal
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Speaker 1: the crime, but I'm still trying to figure out exactly, um,
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Speaker 1: how the child actually passed. And I guess we'll have
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Speaker 1: to wait for the autopsy. Requ hold on my mom
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Speaker 1: and Dr Boba, I had interrupt you, but I've got
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Speaker 1: to pause and I want to thank our listeners being
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Speaker 1: with us, But most of all, I want to thank
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Speaker 1: Alex Woods, this is Mariah's dad at this difficult, difficult
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21:00
Speaker 1: the death of this beautiful little girl, back to Dr
21:03
Speaker 1: Daniel Bober forensic psychiatrists joining us. Dr Bouber, heather story
21:09
Speaker 1: does not make sense to me. Not that Heather has
21:13
Speaker 1: it mixed up, but the source sounds mixed up. Because
21:18
Speaker 1: if you accidentally hurt somebody, you take him to the hospital, right,
21:24
Speaker 1: take responsibility for if you quote don't even know if
21:27
Speaker 1: she's dead, Now, why would you throw her body in
21:30
Speaker 1: a creek? If you don't even know if she's dead.
21:33
Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense. That is not true. It doesn't
21:38
Speaker 1: make sense to me either, Nancy. And maybe you know
21:40
Speaker 1: we've seen this before in other crimes where people just
21:42
Speaker 1: get scared and they don't think it through. But obviously,
21:46
Speaker 1: you know, we we have to really figure out what
21:48
Speaker 1: the matter of death was in this case, and it's
21:50
Speaker 1: just tragic all around. But we don't want to jump
21:52
Speaker 1: to any conclusions when we don't have all the facts.
21:54
Speaker 1: You know, Dr Bober, I did something wrong. I first
21:57
Speaker 1: said I wouldn't send my living to go put the
22:00
Speaker 1: baby to bed. But you know what, if you've been
22:02
Speaker 1: traveling and you get home at midnight with the children,
22:05
Speaker 1: which I have done before, and you hear one of
22:08
Speaker 1: them call out, I could see saying would you please
22:11
Speaker 1: go check on her? Right now? Please, I'm doing I'm unpacking,
22:14
Speaker 1: I'm doing this, I'm doing that, or whatever. I could
22:17
Speaker 1: see that. I could understand the mother doing that. But
22:20
Speaker 1: what I don't understand. Back to Alex Woods, Mariah's dad,
22:26
Speaker 1: his fiance Heather joining us, Alex, what I don't understand
22:31
Speaker 1: is saying I don't even know if she's dead, but
22:34
Speaker 1: go get rid of her body. That doesn't make sense, Alex,
22:37
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I don't either. How could how
22:41
Speaker 1: can you do that? How could you say that? I mean,
22:45
Speaker 1: anybody's a little kid at that. I mean, I don't know. Well,
22:50
Speaker 1: another thing, if this were a quote accident, then why
22:54
Speaker 1: didn't mom call the police if it were an as
22:57
Speaker 1: I because they know just as I mean, I believe
23:02
Speaker 1: that they know that it wasn't an accident. I don't know.
23:07
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. Well, I can't tell you this much.
23:10
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Dave. Matt and Dave, you knew
23:12
Speaker 1: me when this happened. Um, John David had a horrible,
23:16
Speaker 1: a severe blow to the head, and UM I picked
23:21
Speaker 1: him up and I carried him in my arms. And
23:24
Speaker 1: he is big and this was a couple of years ago,
23:27
Speaker 1: but he was still right now. He is now taller
23:29
Speaker 1: than me. He was big. Then I picked that child up.
23:33
Speaker 1: He was screaming and he would pass in and out
23:37
Speaker 1: of consciousness, and I cared because I could not wait
23:41
Speaker 1: on an ambulance, and I carried him. I know by
23:47
Speaker 1: that time he had to be forty or fifty pounds
23:50
Speaker 1: up three flights of stairs and to a car. And
23:54
Speaker 1: I got in the car and floored it to get
23:57
Speaker 1: to the hospital. I did not think, Oh, what are
24:00
Speaker 1: they going to think about me as a mom that
24:02
Speaker 1: my child got a blow to the head. But that
24:05
Speaker 1: never even crossed my mind. I just didn't know what
24:09
Speaker 1: was happening to him, and I I had to get
24:11
Speaker 1: into the hospital that minute. I mean, his head was
24:16
Speaker 1: it looked like I'm not kidding, it look like a tomato,
24:19
Speaker 1: something the size of his tomatoes coming out of his head.
24:23
Speaker 1: And if you think something's happened to your child, why
24:28
Speaker 1: not call nine one one. I don't get it, Dave.
24:31
Speaker 1: You feel me in on the facts as we know
24:33
Speaker 1: them now, Dave, take it from the top, Nancy. I'm
24:35
Speaker 1: trying to combine the actual stories that we've been told,
24:39
Speaker 1: and I mean the statements from the mother and the boyfriend,
24:43
Speaker 1: and compared to what we're hearing now from Mr Woods
24:46
Speaker 1: and and my gosh, I cannot imagine what he's going
24:48
Speaker 1: through right now and his fiance Heather. So from the top,
24:52
Speaker 1: what we were told is that they were home at
24:55
Speaker 1: about eleven o'clock and that Mariah was in bed. She
24:58
Speaker 1: woke up after about an hour and that's when uh,
25:02
Speaker 1: Christie said, hey, go go check on her. And that's
25:05
Speaker 1: where Earl Henry went after she had gotten up and
25:08
Speaker 1: he put her back in bed. They claimed five hours later,
25:10
Speaker 1: when Christie goes into check on her at six in
25:12
Speaker 1: the morning, she's gone missing. Now we know that the
25:15
Speaker 1: entire story that they've told is in question. We know
25:17
Speaker 1: that they interviewed Earl Henry three different times, um two
25:21
Speaker 1: times in one day, and they brought it back the
25:23
Speaker 1: next day. They've interviewed Christie twice, so we know that
25:26
Speaker 1: they're trying to check up on the story and inconsistencies.
25:29
Speaker 1: When you add in what we've just heard from Heather
25:31
Speaker 1: and from Alex. So, they come home, get the kids
25:35
Speaker 1: in bed. An hour later, Mariah wakes up. Then sure,
25:37
Speaker 1: go get do something with her. Quieter down I can
25:40
Speaker 1: picture that happening inside that small trailer. But we know
25:43
Speaker 1: that he left around three o'clock in the morning or
25:44
Speaker 1: somebody did, carrying what appeared to be a body, and
25:48
Speaker 1: the body is found And I'm so sorry, Alex to
25:50
Speaker 1: even say the body. I really apologize for that. But
25:53
Speaker 1: twenty five miles away in an area in the middle
25:56
Speaker 1: of the night, there's plenty of water around that area
25:59
Speaker 1: and on County North Carolina where you could dump a
26:03
Speaker 1: dead baby. We know their story is bogus. What we're
26:07
Speaker 1: getting from Heather and Alex, to be honest, actually makes
26:10
Speaker 1: more sense to me. It actually does. Believe it or not.
26:13
Speaker 1: And it would mean instead of Christy being a mother
26:15
Speaker 1: like you or or a dad like me. And by
26:17
Speaker 1: the way, my wife would never send me in to
26:20
Speaker 1: tuck the baby in. Baby wakes up in the middle
26:22
Speaker 1: of the night, she's checking on it. It It doesn't matter
26:24
Speaker 1: how kind of what kind of dad I am. All
26:26
Speaker 1: the rest of us would load the baby, head to
26:28
Speaker 1: the hospital and call nine one wins am on my way.
26:31
Speaker 1: But that's not a normal situation that took place. So
26:35
Speaker 1: are they getting away with something and afraid to talk
26:37
Speaker 1: to the police And that would be their first thought.
26:40
Speaker 1: Oh no, we did something. We're in trouble. Let's cover
26:42
Speaker 1: it up. And that's what Earl's charged with. Right now,
26:45
Speaker 1: we know that baby Mariah was found in a creek
26:48
Speaker 1: in Pender County, about twenty five miles from Mariah's home
26:53
Speaker 1: that she shared with her mother, her siblings, and Chimery
26:56
Speaker 1: to live in. Back to Alex Wood. This is Mariah's dad, Alex.
27:02
Speaker 1: What do her brothers say happened that night? I have
27:07
Speaker 1: not been able to talk to him yet. They are
27:10
Speaker 1: in uh they're in CPS. Disgusting still I have not
27:14
Speaker 1: talked to him. I have not been able to see him.
27:16
Speaker 1: Right now. The boyfriend, Earl Kimry, thirty two year old,
27:20
Speaker 1: is charged with only obstruction of justice, second degree burglary, larceny,
27:26
Speaker 1: and stolen property. We are all the story of missing Maria.
27:32
Speaker 1: The news has just broken that her little body has
27:35
Speaker 1: been found. I want to go to Vincent Hill, former
27:39
Speaker 1: Nashville p D investigator Vincent. It seems to me that
27:45
Speaker 1: every single person in that home needs to be separated
27:48
Speaker 1: and questioned and administered polygraphs. What do you think, Vincent?
27:54
Speaker 1: I mean, you've seen photos of the home. How could
27:57
Speaker 1: all this go down? And nobody here what was happened. Absolutely,
28:00
Speaker 1: it's a very small, confined space. And you're right, everyone
28:04
Speaker 1: needs to be separated because you know the accounts we
28:06
Speaker 1: heard from Heather, you know those could change tomorrow. We
28:09
Speaker 1: don't want to rule out anything at this point. The
28:11
Speaker 1: fact that Mariah was dumped in water, to me as
28:14
Speaker 1: an investigator, it tells me they were trying to get
28:17
Speaker 1: rid of some kind of evidence. Whether it's DNA, whether
28:20
Speaker 1: it's the the un godly thought of maybe she was unlested,
28:25
Speaker 1: We don't know. But the fact that that little girl
28:28
Speaker 1: was discarded in water, yeah, that speaks volumes and they're
28:33
Speaker 1: trying to hide something. Because to your point, Nancy, as
28:37
Speaker 1: a parent, we all know we rushed to the hospital,
28:39
Speaker 1: like when ours ran over and my mom rushed me
28:42
Speaker 1: to the hospital, even though the police thought she had
28:44
Speaker 1: done something wrong, her first instinct was to rush me
28:47
Speaker 1: to the hospital. So everything that they're saying is not
28:51
Speaker 1: natural as parents, it's not natural as logical adults. So
28:55
Speaker 1: everyone needs to be separated. They need to be given polygraphs.
28:59
Speaker 1: And that investigator is still ongoing. Police are still looking
29:02
Speaker 1: at all the evidence in the home, around the home
29:05
Speaker 1: and the vehicles in the trash game in the backyard,
29:08
Speaker 1: so it's still a very active investigation at this point.
29:11
Speaker 1: Back to Alex Woods, this is Mariah's dad joining us. Alex,
29:17
Speaker 1: when are they going to have answers from the medical
29:21
Speaker 1: Examiner's office? When if they told you that we would
29:24
Speaker 1: know the cause of death, come view the body, well
29:29
Speaker 1: not the Mariah tay. They're fluid to Greenville, checking her
29:35
Speaker 1: out and everything, and they're gonna fly her back the
29:39
Speaker 1: Jacksonville either Monday evening or tuesdays. The arrest weren't issued
29:44
Speaker 1: for Earl Kimry to live in obstruction of justice that
29:48
Speaker 1: is related to this. I'm not sure that a felony
29:51
Speaker 1: larceny is, but that part is related because the arrest
29:55
Speaker 1: weren't lays out that he obstructed justice allegedly by quote
30:00
Speaker 1: removing Mariah's body from the scene of her death, which
30:06
Speaker 1: means they believe the death occurred in the home. She
30:10
Speaker 1: was not taken out of the home and killed and
30:13
Speaker 1: did conceal Mariah Woods death and body, knowing that Mariah
30:18
Speaker 1: Woods died from unnatural causes. The defendant acted with deceit
30:25
Speaker 1: and intent to fraud. It also says quote Camry secretly
30:32
Speaker 1: disposed of the dead child's body. Now, this, if you
30:38
Speaker 1: read between the lines and you scrutinize their choice of language,
30:42
Speaker 1: shows that the child was not thrown in the water alive,
30:48
Speaker 1: she did not drown, That she died in the home
30:52
Speaker 1: and was specifically taken from the home to hide the body.
30:58
Speaker 1: So that's the way that went, and I can tell
31:00
Speaker 1: you that from the arrest warrant. But my question is,
31:04
Speaker 1: did mom know? How could all this happen in that
31:07
Speaker 1: tiny home, very tiny home, with nobody knowing a thing?
31:14
Speaker 1: I want to get to go ahead, Alex. I feel
31:17
Speaker 1: that she knew. I feel that she had a big
31:21
Speaker 1: part in it. She might have been the one that
31:23
Speaker 1: done it. That might be why they ain't charge row
31:25
Speaker 1: wouldn't murder yet. I think you're waiting on the autopsy
31:28
Speaker 1: to come back to confirm how she died. And I
31:33
Speaker 1: think mine is going to get charged with murder or something.
31:36
Speaker 1: Right now. The mom has not been arrested. The mom
31:40
Speaker 1: has not been named a person of interest. Again, this
31:43
Speaker 1: the reading of this warrant, it could mean he to
31:47
Speaker 1: live in Earl Henry Kenny did not kill her, but
31:50
Speaker 1: only disposed of her body. We don't know yet. The
31:55
Speaker 1: answer maybe within the siblings, they may know what happened. Now. Also,
32:01
Speaker 1: what I predict is going to happen to Dr Daniel Bober,
32:04
Speaker 1: forensic psychiatrist, is that one of them is going to blab,
32:09
Speaker 1: either the mother or the boyfriend. One of them is
32:13
Speaker 1: going to talk. And if the mom truly was asleep,
32:16
Speaker 1: if she tells a truthful version of what happened that night,
32:20
Speaker 1: it will probably be damning to the boyfriend. I mean,
32:25
Speaker 1: that's how you crack a case. You start with all
32:28
Speaker 1: the witnesses and you take them one by one and
32:31
Speaker 1: get the whole truth. Well, I'm gonna say nanty exactly,
32:34
Speaker 1: separating them and doing polygraphs, and you know whoever is
32:38
Speaker 1: going to the prosecutor first to make a deal, um,
32:41
Speaker 1: and I guess they're gonna have to decide whether they
32:43
Speaker 1: feel like they are going to turn on someone that's
32:45
Speaker 1: close to them. But obviously someone knows the truth and
32:49
Speaker 1: someone is not talking, So I guess we'll see what happens.
32:51
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing, I absolutely actually Wilcott would
32:54
Speaker 1: not offer anybody a deal. Nobody gets a deal if
32:59
Speaker 1: you want to upright, fine, Otherwise I'll put a both
33:03
Speaker 1: in the same pot. And let him stew together during
33:06
Speaker 1: the investigation until we find out what. I don't know
33:10
Speaker 1: who did what. I don't know if the mothers involved,
33:11
Speaker 1: out of the boyfriends involved. This is all I know.
33:15
Speaker 1: The boyfriend has been arrested. The warrant claims that he
33:20
Speaker 1: took the body dead from the home and concealed it. Well,
33:24
Speaker 1: to me, that's enough to say. I just think this
33:26
Speaker 1: child was murdered. I think everyone's being really kind about
33:29
Speaker 1: we don't know yet what happened. Yes, we don't know
33:32
Speaker 1: yet what happened. But I do not believe in an
33:35
Speaker 1: ounce of my being that someone doesn't know and that
33:38
Speaker 1: this child wasn't murdered. I don't believe it. I think
33:40
Speaker 1: they do know, and I agree with you, Nancy. Charge
33:43
Speaker 1: everybody until we figure it out. The mother was in
33:46
Speaker 1: the home, the boyfriend was in the home. They need
33:48
Speaker 1: to be charged, and then we need to find out
33:51
Speaker 1: exactly who knew what, who did what. But this little
33:55
Speaker 1: three year old girl has been around people she shouldn't
33:58
Speaker 1: have been around, and she is now debt back to
34:02
Speaker 1: Alex woods siance. Also joining us is Heather Heather. It
34:08
Speaker 1: seems like uh, the mom's dad has talked to you guys,
34:14
Speaker 1: what more did you learn? Heather? Um? Uh, we have
34:18
Speaker 1: not been actually been told much of anything else. Um.
34:22
Speaker 1: The only thing they really are telling us right now
34:25
Speaker 1: is that pretty much they're really just waiting for the autopsy.
34:30
Speaker 1: Because now the mother and earl are trying to say
34:34
Speaker 1: that Ryan the s one of the sons did it.
34:40
Speaker 1: And okay, wait wait, wait wait wait, that's the bombshell
34:44
Speaker 1: right there. Who is trying to say the brothers did it?
34:47
Speaker 1: How the brothers are? What? How old are they? They're nine? Okay,
34:52
Speaker 1: I can tell you right now they did not do
34:54
Speaker 1: it because the likelihood at Vincent Hill and Dr Bober
34:59
Speaker 1: speak or forever hold your peace because uh sibling side okay,
35:05
Speaker 1: when you it's slang for when a sibling kills their
35:09
Speaker 1: brother or sister extremely rare, which you know, to go
35:12
Speaker 1: back to Jonny Ramsey, I never thought Burke did it
35:15
Speaker 1: because it's practically unheard of for one sibling another sibling. Yes,
35:21
Speaker 1: it does happen in some freaky situations, but no, typically no,
35:26
Speaker 1: they did not kill their sibling. Am I right on that? Bober?
35:29
Speaker 1: Can you can you throw me a bone? Well? Also, well,
35:32
Speaker 1: Ryan the one are trying to but the one. Christie
35:34
Speaker 1: and Earle are trying to blame it on Now he's
35:37
Speaker 1: no more than seventy pounds, not even seventy pounds. How
35:41
Speaker 1: do you know how there is no way? How do
35:45
Speaker 1: you know? Christie the mom and Earl Kenny, the boyfriend,
35:50
Speaker 1: are trying to blame it on the brothers. Wow, who
35:53
Speaker 1: said that it had been released? Um like the the
35:57
Speaker 1: like the um. They said it was from the court,
36:01
Speaker 1: like ah, not to d A. But they worked with
36:03
Speaker 1: the d d A. But they said they're in they're
36:06
Speaker 1: in this court system. They said that now that there's
36:09
Speaker 1: new people, but they're just they're ruling it out. They
36:12
Speaker 1: know they don't They pretty much know it's not true.
36:15
Speaker 1: But now they got like they're just waiting for the
36:16
Speaker 1: autopsy because they know, like how they're throwing now more
36:21
Speaker 1: things out another story. Now they're trying to blame it
36:23
Speaker 1: on Ryan. Okay, back, whoa whoa right there right there?
36:27
Speaker 1: That's my question. Heaven, someone from law enforcement told you that.
36:35
Speaker 1: Who is trying to blame that? Who that that Earl
36:41
Speaker 1: Kimry and Christie are trying to say that that's why
36:46
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36:48
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36:52
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36:58
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37:01
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37:05
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37:08
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37:11
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37:14
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37:16
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37:18
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37:23
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41:58
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Speaker 1: it feels like my body, my arms are just aching.
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Speaker 1: I want to hold them so much, and I love
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Speaker 1: them so much, and I just hurt for you so
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Speaker 1: badly thinking about your boys are in some strange place
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Speaker 1: and you can't see your little girl. I mean, I remember, Alex,
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Speaker 1: I used to wake up in the morning and I
42:29
Speaker 1: would think everything had just been a bad dream. When
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Speaker 1: I was a crime victim. That would be my first thought.
42:34
Speaker 1: I'd wake up happy, normally, and then within like five seconds,
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Speaker 1: it would hit me, Oh, dear Lord in Heaven, it
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Speaker 1: did did this thing really happen? And then my mind
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Speaker 1: would just try to make sense of what had happened.
42:49
Speaker 1: I mean, when you wake up in the morning, Alex,
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Speaker 1: what goes through your mind? If I'm good, when I'm
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Speaker 1: going to see my boys, Just a ton of things.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's always I can't stop thinking about Mariah,
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Speaker 1: Nate and Ryan. I just can't. I can't. There are
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Speaker 1: my min How could how coud somebody let let this
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Speaker 1: happen to anybody, much less precious little three years. Have
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Speaker 1: you talked to Mariah's mom yet? No? So you're really
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Speaker 1: hearing your information through her father. Is that right, Alex friends?
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Speaker 1: Not for her? Not for him? Right? Okay? So three friends,
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Speaker 1: Ashley Willcott, how will they make sense of it? And
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Speaker 1: what do you expect we're going to learn from the
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Speaker 1: medical exams? I think the medical examiner is going to
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Speaker 1: identify this child as Mariah. I think that the medical
43:52
Speaker 1: examiner is going to give very vital information about whether
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Speaker 1: or not um there was any sexual assault, on molestation,
43:58
Speaker 1: and the actual cause of death. I hate to say this,
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Speaker 1: but I'm going to tell you, in over twenty years
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Speaker 1: of experience, I'm fearful the cause of death is going
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Speaker 1: to be murder. There's no sense to be made of this.
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Speaker 1: But the one thing I read that someone said, we
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Speaker 1: need a memorial so that we can focus on the
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Speaker 1: three year old and the tragic death. Completely agree. But
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Speaker 1: the other half of this, and the importance to investigating
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Speaker 1: and figuring out what happened, is to educate the public
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Speaker 1: about making better choices of who's around your children and
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Speaker 1: protecting your children. You know you cannot have said it
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Speaker 1: any better than that, Ashley Willcot child advocate Alex Woods,
44:39
Speaker 1: I know that you were in a battle to get
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Speaker 1: custody of Mariah and her brothers, but were you ever
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Speaker 1: afraid for her life? I mean, did you ever have
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Speaker 1: an inkling that she could end up dead? Always in
44:55
Speaker 1: your mind, but you never wanted to think it. I mean,
44:57
Speaker 1: I a, I mean not and prade nothing like this,
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Speaker 1: whatever ever come? You know? I mean, it's that something, Alex.
45:09
Speaker 1: Why do they go to this body of water? What
45:12
Speaker 1: led them there? I have no idea. I mean, I
45:15
Speaker 1: guess the tip. I guess some maybe some somebody kicked
45:20
Speaker 1: the authorities off, maybe somebody talked. I have no idea.
45:26
Speaker 1: You know, to Dave mac joining us um A dive team,
45:31
Speaker 1: it was the Feteville Remote Dive Team was doing the search.
45:36
Speaker 1: And that kind of search is very difficult. I've dived
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Speaker 1: hundreds of times and it's hard. In that kind of
45:45
Speaker 1: body of water. It can be murky. Sometimes you can't
45:48
Speaker 1: even see the hand in front of your face. It's
45:50
Speaker 1: a very very difficult dive situation. And I'm wondering what
45:55
Speaker 1: led them there? Dave, you know the things that I'm
45:58
Speaker 1: looking at is are the fact that Earl Henry was charged,
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Speaker 1: you know, with concealing this before they found the body.
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Speaker 1: And when you look at when they interviewed him, when
46:09
Speaker 1: police spent they did three interviews over two days with
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Speaker 1: Earl Camry and two with Christie. So I'm guessing, and
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Speaker 1: that's all I can do at this point, speculate that
46:19
Speaker 1: during the course of those interviews they were able to
46:22
Speaker 1: find out maybe where they normally took off to, maybe
46:26
Speaker 1: they gave hints of where they might have been. And
46:28
Speaker 1: because you've got to realize twenty five miles from the
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Speaker 1: home and then to charge Kemry with this before they
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Speaker 1: find the body, they find this little girl twenty five
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Speaker 1: miles from home in a small creek in the middle
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Speaker 1: of nowhere. That that's why I figured they got that
46:43
Speaker 1: information between Earl himself and Christie. You know how expert
46:47
Speaker 1: interviewers are at sitting down with suspects and getting the
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Speaker 1: information they're looking for. I'm banking, I'm banking they gave
46:54
Speaker 1: it up themselves. Dr Bober, How is it that your
47:00
Speaker 1: mind works the way it does when you lose somebody
47:04
Speaker 1: that for instance, there you wake up in the morning
47:06
Speaker 1: and you don't. Even if you don't realize at first
47:11
Speaker 1: that they've been killed, it takes a minute to grasp
47:15
Speaker 1: that reality, Nancy. Victims of acute stress or horrible circumstances
47:21
Speaker 1: like this often go through an emotional numbing where it
47:24
Speaker 1: seems almost surreal that it's not that it's actually not
47:26
Speaker 1: reality and it's the mind's way of protecting itself from
47:30
Speaker 1: the shock and the trauma of the events by disconnecting
47:33
Speaker 1: yourself from the emotions until it finally sets in. Dr Bobera,
47:37
Speaker 1: what what can you tell Alex would's Mariah's dad tonight?
47:42
Speaker 1: What what can he possibly do? You know? Um? Mr Woods,
47:46
Speaker 1: I would tell you that, you know, people talk about
47:49
Speaker 1: taking it one day at a time. I mean you're
47:50
Speaker 1: gonna have to take it literally one hour at a
47:52
Speaker 1: time and mobilize all your supports and lean on the
47:55
Speaker 1: people that love and care about you. And uh, you know,
47:58
Speaker 1: all our hearts and our prayers are out for you.
48:00
Speaker 1: And if there's anything we can do, I hope you'll
48:02
Speaker 1: reach out. But now is the time to lean on
48:04
Speaker 1: the people that are closest to you to get you
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Speaker 1: through this difficult time. Muser I do man, I am God, God,
48:10
Speaker 1: bless you, sir, God, bless you. I don't know I'm
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Speaker 1: doing it. Thank you, Alex. I want to think about
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Speaker 1: Mariah in life. Can you just tell me about her?
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Speaker 1: What did she like to play? Did she like to sing?
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Speaker 1: Did she like a bath? What was her favorite TV show?
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Speaker 1: I just want to think about her in a happy
48:31
Speaker 1: and positive way because she gave so many people so
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Speaker 1: much joy. Alex, just tell me about her. She was
48:39
Speaker 1: so scarously love the dance, she loved the listening music,
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Speaker 1: she loved the play, she loved she laugh and smile.
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Speaker 1: She loved to eat. I love to watch TV. She
48:53
Speaker 1: didn't handle favorite TV show because she was widowed, but
48:56
Speaker 1: she just anything. Cans music. Yeah, such a tear free
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Speaker 1: little girl, happy, alis smiling, just so peaceful. She was
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Speaker 1: so beautiful In the pictures I see of her. She
49:10
Speaker 1: always has a little bow in her hair or the
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Speaker 1: tiara in her hair, and she's always dressed up just
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Speaker 1: so cute. And from what I've been told, she was
49:21
Speaker 1: a real daddy's girl. Guys, as we head into this day,
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Speaker 1: I asked you to join me in sending out your
49:32
Speaker 1: thoughts and your prayers. Two and four Alex Woods and
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Speaker 1: his family as they battle this horrible thing. Please send
49:46
Speaker 1: up a prayer on behalf of him and baby Mariah.
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Speaker 1: Dr bober Vincent Hill, Dave Mack, Ashley Wilcot, Alex Woods, Heather,
49:56
Speaker 1: Alan Duke, and Jackie. To all of you, thank you.
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace's Crime Story signing off, goodbye friend,