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506: Sam Darnold's Injury, Drew Lock's Chance, and the Seahawks 1-0 Start · Sea Hawkers Podcast: for Seattle Seahawks fans

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Brandan: This is the Sea Hawkers Podcast, episode 506.
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I'm Brandan Schulze, and I am joined by my good buddy Adam Emmert, as
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our Seahawks are 1 and 0 after week one of the season, riding high at
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the top of the division, sharing it with two other teams that…
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I, I don't like sharing, you know, spots at the top of the
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division with, but here we are.
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We're with the Cardinals and the 49ers.
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Totally what we expected would happen.
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Adam: I've got good news, Brandan.
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You're not gonna have to share that spot for very long, and that's gonna
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be really fun when the Seahawks do hold the division lead outright.
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what a fantastic week of week one football.
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Man, it feels so good for it to be back.
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It felt so awesome to be at the stadium for the season opener for the
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Seahawks, watching the banner unveiled.
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It was awesome to watch our Seahawks come back and just be resilient
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and, steal the heart and soul of the Patriots yet once again.
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And, then it was kinda awesome to see the, the Rams pull a dum-dum
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and, like, show up, you know, what, 10 minutes before the game.
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And it's about how I threw the graphics in for our show this week.
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I, I'm on the Sean McVay timeline apparently, just last minute.
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Brandan: Last minute.
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May- maybe that's all it was.
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Maybe it wasn't, it, it wasn't that, you know, he thought it
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was the smartest thing to do.
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He's just a procrastinator, and really just wasn't sure about how to travel, so
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it was just wing it and go last minute.
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To…
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I s- I suppose when you have the…
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You have your own private plane, you can do things like that.
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You don't have to plan for travel, you just, you wing it as you go.
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Adam: wouldn't know, but, we could save some of the talk about
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the last t- last place team in the division for the second half of the show.
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Can't wait to talk about that.
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But Brandan, big win for the Seahawks, in Lumen Field, opening
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night, championship banner unveiled.
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It was awesome, man.
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Brandan: It was very awesome.
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And you said a word right off the top that, I think our
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head coach would approve of, Adam, because it is resilience.
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And that was the one thing…
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I, it was, after, he gave his press conference, he, he seemed to
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wanna make it known that resilience was, I, I guess going to be a
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message for the team going forward.
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because he, he did tag it.
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and he almost seemingly wanted to emphasize it when he
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talked about it in his presser.
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[Mike Macdonald, postgame presser]: The win, but also understand it's the first game.
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And, we have a really great opportunity here to
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that was Pete Carroll… take our game to the next level.
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But we talk about the 22 Seahawks and understanding our identity and who we are.
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I think that definitely revealed the type of team that we have.
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A resilient, tough bunch that sticks together.
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So I'm, I'm really proud of the effort, and, just really proud
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proud to be a Seahawk today, so.
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Brandan: You could see him, Adam, kinda look down toward his notes where
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he said, "A resilient, tough bunch."
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And, so it, it seemed like for his 2026 Seahawks, that
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that, that was kind of his big takeaway, from week one.
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And I…
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When you go into a game and you lose your quarterback, like, what, four or
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five plays into the game, resilience is a, a word that comes to mind.
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Adam: It really does.
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And it was one of those things that really stood out throughout
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the course of the game.
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And you can see a team that has the confidence in themselves, a team
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that has been there before, done that before, and knows no matter what
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no matter who comes in, they can band together and get the job done.
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And I thought this game was the epitome of what championship resilience looks like.
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And the defense just hung in there, kept giving the offense opportunity
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after opportunity to get it done.
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Then when we got to the fourth quarter, we really needed to turn the screws on
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the Patriots just a little bit harder.
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Man, defense steps up and Josh Jobe comes away with the game-winning
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interception, and, all of the sadness from the Boston area.
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It was fantastic.
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It, it was a great, great play by him.
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Brandan: That Josh Jobe interception, the, the call from Westwood One.
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Now, I know we generally highlight our own Steve Raible and his
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calls, but for whatever reason, the Seahawks did not put up the Steve
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Raible call up on seahawks.com.
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So I only had the, the Kevin Harlan clip from Westwood One, and I have
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to imagine it's just as spectacular, as what Steve Raible had to say.
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[Kevin Harlan, radio broadcast call]: On five.
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Patriots down by three, 26 seconds to go.
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Shotgun snap to Maye.
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Move out of the pocket, throws a
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pass.
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End zone.
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Intercepted in the end zone.
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Was he in bounds?
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Intercepted by Jobe.
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Seattle has picked off Maye.
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They've done it again!
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The defense of Seattle has done it again Drake Maye has thrown his
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third interception in this quarter
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Brandan: And the thing about the, the, the third interception of the quarter, it
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it, well, it, he- listening to Drake Maye afterward, it sounded like he was very
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frustrated by our Seahawks defense through the first three quarters of the game.
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Adam: For sure.
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And look, that's the day and age of football that we live in.
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Two high shells, lots of complicated looks.
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We're gonna make you check it down and see if you can beat us through
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a death by a thousand cuts, and have to execute 14, 15 times in a
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row on a drive to actually score.
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And that's really difficult to do.
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And especially as a young guy with a big arm, a guy that beasted off of big
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plays throughout his regular season last year against, well, nobody.
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that's who it was against throughout, with the weakest schedule in the history
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of the league, or, like, in the last 25 years of the league or whatever it was.
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Brandan: Yeah.
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Adam: And he lost his cool.
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He lost his patience.
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And I, I think also too, I think Josh McDaniels tried to protect him
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throughout the game as well from, like, falling into that trap, kind of their
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conservative offensive game plan, and allowed him to take a couple shots.
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And Drake was like, "Hey, green light.
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Let's go."
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And he didn't care.
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He's, he's chucking it up into team meetings.
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He's, late on quick throws that are three-step drops, and throwing
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it to Josh Jobe so he could break the heart of every, Masshole out there.
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It was great.
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It was great.
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And it was fun to watch a young quarterback lose his cool and a
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championship t- caliber team just keep tightening the screws, and tightening
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the screws, and making it hard.
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Down five, Patriots down by
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Brandan: three.
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Oh.
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Adam: There we go.
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Brandan: There we go.
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It's live.
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We're- It's live… trying to figure it out.
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We're
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Adam: playing with new stuff this episode, guys.
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So there's gonna be some glitches.
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Brandan: yeah.
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So Drake Maye, y- you mentioned his patience, and that's what he explicitly
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said, is that he lost his patience.
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And it's almost…
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You have to wonder if it was Josh McDaniels who's saying, you know
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"Hey, w- this is the game plan.
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We're gonna check it down.
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We're gonna take what they give us."
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And then, yeah, he, he…
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But maybe the…
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I, I wonder if McDaniels lost a pa- his patience too and said, "Hey, we…"
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You know, especially after three quarters, "Now it's time to take some shots."
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But i- if, if that was the case, it wasn't Drake Maye dop- dropping the dime on
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him.
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[Drake Maye, postgame presser]: Just stopped being patient.
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Brandan: You know, I think that's a big thing.
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We were, we were, you know, really good up to the point where I tried
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to put, you know, fourth one down the sideline to Romeo, where we were
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patient and, you know, dumping it off and trying to move the chains and, you
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know, we avoid a lot of three and outs.
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And that was, you know, something we try to, you know, just earn
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more plays and the closest we come.
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So, you know, just stopped being patient, and, you know, made
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decisions that, you know, ended up, like I said, that cost us the game.
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Brandan: So-
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Adam: Yeah… stop being patient Cost you the game, bud
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Yeah, yeah, tough break for you.
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so yeah, Josh Jobe with the game-winning, INT, and
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he also collected all the Patriots tears, and that was nice in one game.
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leads the league in Patriots tears this year, which is
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Brandan: I think he leads the league in, in post-game
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awesome interviews too.
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Adam: Yeah, yeah.
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The, do you have that one, that sound bite there?
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'Cause that one was fun.
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Do
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Brandan: it.
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[Josh Jobe, postgame interview]: I just looked for the ball, I found the ball.
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My mind, my mind was on ball, ball, ball, ball.
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Get ball, get ball.
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See ball, get ball
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Brandan: Get ball.
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Ball, ball, ball.
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See ball, get ball
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Adam: Yeah, man.
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Look, I'll, I'll tell you what, you listen to offensive players
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describe the mentality of defensive players and, they always make it
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sound like very dumbed down and like just, you know, very limited vocabulary.
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Josh Jobe did not help the case of defensive players
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with that interview.
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You know, "Ball, ball, ball, get ball.
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I only ball.
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I, all I want is the ball.
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Like, where's the ball?"
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Yeah.
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not helping out there.
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but look man, I love the mentality, went after it.
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What a fantastic catch, in the end zone, and something that even JSN
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pointed out just how impressed he was from a receiver's standpoint as he
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was able to, you know, secure ball and then, think about ball, and then
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after ball, then put his feet down.
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It was great.
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Brandan: Gets his feet down, has, has the wherewithal to catch it and look
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down to make sure he gets his toes in.
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He got his toes well in.
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I think, you know, from our vantage point we couldn't see it all
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that clearly, but, we, yeah.
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But just an incredible catch.
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And I, the other takeaway, so there's the patience part of it with
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with Maye and not being able to accept being patient throughout the game.
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But there was this big concern about, that, shoot, that we
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had, right, going into this game, about our Seahawks secondary.
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And the fascinating thing was is that, yeah, okay, Josh Jobe had
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the, the pick to seal the game, but every one of the defensive backs
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got their hands on the football as- Yeah… part of an interception.
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'Cause Rodney Thomas, he was the one that tipped it into Nehemiah Pritchett's
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hands, then you had Julian Love who caught the second interception, and then
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Jobe with the, the game-sealing one.
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And how wild is it that one of the areas where we had our biggest concern
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that ended up being really the strength of what, led the defense in this
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game because yeah, whether it was the game plan of just making them
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check it down and, or, you know, whether you want to argue that once A.J.
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Brown went out, you know, who did they really have for receivers in that
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in, in that group for the Patriots?
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Adam: Mm-hmm.
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Brandan: maybe, maybe the game would've gone differently.
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But I look back at that game and say, yeah, they scored 10 points, but both
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of those, both the field goal was set up due to penalties, the touchdown was
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set up due to a penalty, and they scored all 10 of their points off of penalties.
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Adam: They really did.
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And honestly, the Seahawks were fairly dominant throughout this game.
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The penalties is really what helped the Patriots defense keep
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the offense under wraps.
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And then the defense really, as you pointed out, most of…
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Or really everything that they gave up of the whopping 10 points they gave up, were
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more or less a direct result of penalties.
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And, you know, it's interesting, you talk about, well, if A.J.
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Brown goes out, maybe that's a, a different result.
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And, look, I wanna put a pin in the idea of if something had happened
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the result would've been different, 'cause there's a narrative floating
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around this game that, I just- Sure… I, I can't understand at all.
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the…
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It, it drives me crazy.
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But to get back to the DBs because, number one, terrific game.
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Terrific game by that group back there.
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Julian Love, like he took Rodney Thomas, who hasn't played one regular
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season snap for the Seattle Seahawks, and as his running mate back there
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in the safety position, had him on point communicating and had everybody
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on a rope back there with the DBs.
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And Nehemiah Pritchett, been in the system a few years now, and y- you know, he
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has been improving as he's been here.
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And we saw him make a couple plays last year, not get a lot of playtime
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but gets out there as, you know, the primary outside corner opposite of
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Job, i- allowing Spoon to play in the slot, which was big because then
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Spoon could do his Spoon blitzes, which Josh McDaniels is still confused
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by, which is fricking hilarious.
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but look, as great as the secondary played, and they did, and I think it's
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awesome that John Schneider is able to go out and find these guys, and then
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Mike takes these veterans and puts them in a system and they get high
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level of play, and they don't have to go out and trade with the Chiefs and
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then spend a zillion dollars on a, a corner, and then go out and sign the
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Chief's other corner and spend a zillion dollars on him to try to like repair
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y- this massive hole on your roster.
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We don't have to do that because we have John Schneider and Mike Mc-
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Mike Macdonald, and it's awesome, man.
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I, I'm just so impressed.
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But as well as they played, Brandan, I really feel like it's the front
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four that really took care of business, in a way that allowed
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the secondary to feast because- Mm
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they made Maye jittery.
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And the second- Right… he wasn't just checking it down and just hitting these
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quick, throws and getting the ball out of his hand, all of a sudden we're
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thrown into team meetings and it's over.
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Brandan: Yeah.
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And really, it, it was a guy…
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You, you watch back the film and Byron Murphy is all over the place
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and Leonard Williams is- Yeah
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contributing.
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And, Uchenna Nwosu, holy smokes, that dude, I- Dude… were there
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two of him on the field in that game?
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Because there were some plays where, he…
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I, I swear he, I saw him in one spot and then he showed up in another.
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Adam: Yeah, man.
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really impressive game out of Nwosu.
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one of the more dominant performance I've seen out of him.
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Not that he hasn't had great performances, but that was a guy that really just jumped
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off the page with everything that he did.
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And e- even though, like, some of them didn't show up in the stats s- sheet
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like when Clinton and I did Three and Three Out earlier this week, and if
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you guys haven't checked that out, go check it out because it's dope.
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Clinton did an awesome job.
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Chenna had this amazing play on an outside run where he was able to
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stop the tight end from crossing his face and tried to pin him inside and in
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keeping the edge, and then getting to the back and really making it a difficult
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run for the Patriots and causing a TFL.
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And those are the things that we're talking about.
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That's the championship pedigree.
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That's the resilience.
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That's the type of effort that you put in when you know that Drew Lock has
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just come into the game, and he hasn't started a game in forever, and it wasn't
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the game plan, and he didn't have any reps, so we gotta give him support.
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And Chenna and crew, they brought it in spades, man.
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Brandan: He had another TFL on a pass play where he got there
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as the ball was getting there.
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And man, i- it was almost another Super Bowl style moment to where if
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he would've been there, like, a third of a second faster- Yeah… it- that
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ball probably gets tipped up in the air, and then who knows what happens.
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Adam: Who knows what happens.
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But big day by the defense.
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They were the one unit on the field out of all of the
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you know, Patriots or Seahawks.
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They were the most dominant unit by far, and they controlled
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the game start to finish.
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Looked a lot like another game I watched, semi-recently.
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Which one was that?
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Oh yeah, the [catfish] Super Bowl.
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Yeah.
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Brandan: Yeah.
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That, that did feel like a defense dominant performance.
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So it's, it, it's good, especially, Adam, in a week where you saw so many offensive
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points scored throughout the league-
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Adam: Man
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… Brandan: that-
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Adam: Wild
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Brandan: right… that our defense came to play in week one, and, yeah
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it, it, it was very cool to see.
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And it really, it, it, it was only really because of the defense that allowed
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so many of our players on offense to, to show up w- when they needed to be there.
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Adam: Had to work their way into the game, right?
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Yeah.
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And they surely did.
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It looked a lot different from the first half to the second half.
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Part of that is offensive coordinator Brian Fleury, who we'll get to
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but the majority of that, to me, Brandan, comes to this man right
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here, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, man.
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Huge night.
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Eight receptions on 11 targets, 122 yards and a touchdown.
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And the touchdown, that wasn't like Drew threw a miracle ball into the end z-
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like, and just put it right there, and it was easy-peasy for JSN and all that.
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No, no.
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Heavy lifting on that play, that was Jaxon Smith-Njigba.
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[Broadcast call]: Fake.
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Drew looks.
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Drew throws.
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Ball is caught.
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Guess who?
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JSN breaks a tackle.
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30, 20, five, 20, in for the goal.
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He is touchdown!
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Seahawks, J-M-
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Runs right through the heart of the Patriot defense and he lances
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their heart with what JSN does best.
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He breaks away for a big six points and the Seahawks are a
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point away from tying this one up.
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Brandan: I love the crowd pop in that, as, as JSN catches the pass, because i- i- the
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crowd was cheering because we knew we had the first down on a fourth and one play
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and that it was a, a fake and the, the pass and, and then you could just…
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Y- you could hear and feel it build as he was outrunning and dodging and
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juking, his way to the end zone.
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Adam: Oh, man.
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It was a work of art.
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And you feel like in any given game, that snowball is gonna just
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start rolling for JSN and there's nothing you can do about it.
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I, I was listening to Brock and Salk, I think last week or so
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and they were doing this game where they were trying to use, like
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one word to describe each player.
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And one of their listeners had texted into the show, and for JSN
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they used the word inevitable.
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And boy, that just rung, that just struck a chord with me.
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Yeah.
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And it really is.
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JSN is freaking inevitable.
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Sam Darnold goes out with butt stuff, and all of a sudden Drew Lock comes in and i-
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you know, is feeling his way through the game, and you need a big play, and JSN
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says, "You know, hold my beer, watch this.
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good luck."
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And he just weaves his way so fluidly through everybody.
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The speed is so sneaky.
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The routes are, like…
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Again, going back to the Hard Knocks thing, where he, you know, is kinda
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you know, springing out from every direction at the stem of his route.
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The, the routes are just impeccable.
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Look, JSN, absolutely inevitable, and we saw it here in the opener.
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It was awesome.
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Brandan: Yeah.
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Eight receptions on 11 targets, 122 yards, 15 yards average, and the touchdown.
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Just a incredible game by JSN.
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And yeah, it doesn't matter, who's under center apparently, whether it
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is Sam Darnold or our dude Drew Lock.
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And we, we have finally…
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You said he's out with butt stuff.
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we- I know
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I guess we can laugh about it now.
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Adam, is there a quarterback in the league that needs to be
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humbled any more than Sam Darnold?
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Like, how does, how do these things keep happening to Sam?
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Like, he comes into the league, he gets mono, and then he- Oh, God.
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Yeah… so he's the mono guy.
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Yeah.
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And then he's, goes through with the Jets and, and then, you know, he wins-
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Adam: Seeing ghosts and, like
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Brandan: all that, right?
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Yeah, the seeing ghosts thing.
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And then he wins a Super Bowl, and then he's on Hard Knocks and his ring
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falls out of the box that it's in, and everybody's- Yeah… "Oh, Sam Darnold
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can't even hold onto his Super Bowl ring."
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And then in week one, four plays in, the dude, sounds
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like he has a hip injury, and now it's a, a ligament in his butt.
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And now- Yeah That now he has this new narrative that he has to deal with
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Adam: I feel so bad for Sam.
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I do.
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Like, of all the types of injuries, you know what I mean?
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Like, yeah, why, why are you out?
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Ass.
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Like, that, that's why, man.
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Like
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Brandan: that's
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Adam: it.
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My butt hurts.
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Yeah.
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And, we don't know too much about it either, which is interesting, so, like, we
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all have to speculate on Sam's butt stuff.
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Like-… this is so embarrassing and, like, there's nothing he can do about it.
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And look, we've got a few different reports, Brandan.
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I'm curious to see which ones you're leaning towards, which ones you
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think are probably more correct.
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Well- Because it depends on who you're listening to, to a degree
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… Brandan: well, the, and that was the p- the interesting part of it.
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You had a statement that came out that said, oh, it could be five, six
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weeks, and then there was other, reporters sp- saying that, oh, it's only
21:07
gonna be a week or two, to where the Seahawks, they ended up putting out a
21:11
statement that said, y- that's a unique injury, and I guess they had five or
21:17
six different opinions on it, or four.
21:19
It, it was a number of second opinions that they went out to get just trying to
21:24
get a timeline because, I guess because it's such a unique injury that they, they
21:29
don't know really how to plan around it.
21:32
And then it generated all these reports to where then they said, y- you know
21:36
it's going to be two or three weeks.
21:39
And it, it seems like that's where it's kind of settled, is that…
21:43
'Cause early on there were reports like, well, and even Mike was saying, "Well
21:48
he's gonna miss the Cardinals game."
21:50
And- Yeah… then, you heard some people saying, "Well, he could be
21:55
back, gosh, there's, you know, 17 days in between the week one and then the
22:00
Commanders game on the road, so he might be able to make it back from that."
22:05
And then there were- Others saying that it was such a unique injury that it's
22:09
gonna take up to six weeks, and I think that's probably just the window, right?
22:14
The, it's a three to six week window, and so if you're an optimist, then may-
22:19
hope- hopefully the Commanders game.
22:21
Adam: Yeah, and, you know, three to six week window, maybe.
22:25
Like, I mean, even the team is like, you know, timetable is uncertain
22:28
and it is such a unique injury.
22:32
look, I, I mean I hurt my butt, and, so I had to
22:36
shoot my couch over it, right?
22:37
So like-… I can relate.
22:39
so I, I get it.
22:41
but what a weird fluky thing.
22:44
Thank goodness it seems to be something that, like, definitely not season ending
22:49
or anything like that, but then, you know, you just went through the schedule, right?
22:53
Cards, Commanders, Chargers.
22:56
Apparently we only play C teams.
22:57
But, at the end of the day, after week one, Brandan, it feels
23:02
like Cards might be the hardest game on that stretch of schedule there.
23:05
Brandan: Oh my gosh, and we- we'll get to the preview with the
23:09
Cardinals, later in the show.
23:12
But yeah, a, a little bit surprising that they're the ones that
23:15
come out against the Chargers.
23:16
Why, why can't they just be, do Cardinals things and make us feel
23:20
better- Well-… about week two?
23:22
But I do feel good about Drew Lock, and I, I have to expect that with a week
23:31
of preparation and knowing he's gonna be the guy, and getting over some of
23:36
the penalty issues and, just that unfamiliarity and, and having to deal
23:42
with that resilience factor that was unexpected through week one, that the
23:49
preparation is gonna help a guy like Lock.
23:51
And, he didn't have a terrible game.
23:54
Had s- over 70% completion percentage.
23:57
Didn't have a lot of air yards though, which is an…
24:01
You would expect for Drew, like he's a guy- I know… that likes to
24:04
push the ball down the field, right?
24:05
So- Yeah… you, maybe more of that, but 187 yards, gets a lot
24:11
of, yak from the JSN touchdown.
24:14
And…
24:16
But really, just the feeling throughout the game, it felt like he was getting
24:21
settled in in the fourth quarter, and that even if the Patriots, say
24:25
had pushed it to overtime, I, I felt confident that we were going to…
24:30
It just, it seemed like we had a, a confident Drew Lock in the fourth quarter.
24:35
Adam: Yeah, I think it all started to slow back down for him.
24:38
It only took him three quarters because he has so much experience in the league
24:42
for the game to slow back down for him.
24:44
Look, I mean, when you haven't started a football game in forever, like
24:48
it's, it's really difficult to get kind of caught up to the speed of the
24:52
game the second you touch the field.
24:54
And in fact, I can't imagine too many backup quarterbacks when they go into
24:58
week one of the season are thinking, especially when their starter has
25:02
been like healthy all off season- Yeah
25:04
and all of that, like that they have any chance of s- Like I guarantee Drew
25:08
hadn't thought like two seconds about…
25:10
Well, that's not true.
25:11
I mean, I'm sure he's prepared and all of that.
25:13
Yeah.
25:13
But he wasn't expecting to go into this game, especially that
25:16
early after the first drive.
25:18
And I think one of the reasons why it seemed to kind of pick up for him in the
25:22
second half is you heard him talk about getting to the locker room at halftime
25:27
and sitting down with Coach Fleury and really mapping out their, you know
25:31
scripted plays to start, the things that they were gonna do and change and all
25:35
of that, and it made a big difference.
25:37
Now, obviously operations-wise, it wasn't a very clean game.
25:41
I mean, the penalties were horrible.
25:43
I think there were seven pre-snap penalties throughout this game.
25:46
That is God awful.
25:47
That is- Yeah… God awful.
25:48
Now, that's something that's highly correctable, so you have a first time
25:52
play caller, a backup that had to go in like in a really unusual circumstance
25:57
right out of the gate, and, you know, it- you're starting on a
26:02
Wednesday too, which is, weird.
26:04
Like I'm not surprised that the offense had some operational issues early on.
26:11
I really expect that to be cleaned up for the next game.
26:14
And I give Drew kind of like a, a solid B for this game.
26:18
And you talked about the air yards, Brandan, and I don't give a crap about
26:22
the air yards because Drew Lock played I think one of his more professional
26:26
games I've seen him play- Yeah
26:28
where he was the opposite of Drake Maye.
26:31
He didn't lose his patience.
26:33
He took what was there.
26:34
He dinked and dunked.
26:34
It's as if he sat behind Sam Darnold for a year, watched him win a Super
26:38
Bowl and went, "Oh, geez Louise, like I guess I don't have to do everything.
26:43
I've got a kickass team around me.
26:44
Maybe I'll just be a point guard and distribute the ball, do what I can do, and
26:48
then when I need to make a big throw, I'll throw a crazy corner out to Cooper Kupp
26:52
and he'll come down and make a crazy one hand catch, and off to the races we go."
26:56
And that's exactly what Drew did.
26:58
He had a couple big boy throws in this game, but a lot of very responsible
27:02
throws, and I think that's what was impressive and why I feel comfortable
27:05
going into not just week two, but week three or week four, however long it is
27:09
for, for Sam to heal the butt, you know?
27:13
Brandan: I'm glad you brought up Cooper Kupp and that one-handed catch- Yeah
27:16
because we got the auto- audio for it Yeah
27:18
Adam: let's go.
27:18
Let's go.
27:19
[Broadcast call]: Coverage on the near side.
27:21
Blitz is coming.
27:22
Lock is gonna let it fly.
27:23
Got his man.
27:24
Cooper Kupp.
27:27
Holy catfish.
27:29
I need to mention him more, 'cause when I do, he makes a catch.
27:32
A one-hander from 26, make it 24.
27:37
What a catch by the former Super Bowl MVP, and he just bailed out this Seahawks
27:46
offense with a huge reception down to the Patriots 13-yard line, first and 10
27:53
Brandan: DJ Nichols in chat saying, "Locke managed the game
27:56
cold, couldn't ask for more.
27:58
Now he has a week and a half with the ones to be ready for the Cards."
28:02
And I, I…
28:03
The only reason I bring up the air yards component, Adam, was
28:07
that- Yeah… it, it just that that was a, a factor in the game.
28:11
He just, he didn't push the ball- Mm-hmm… down the field a lot
28:14
and it, it worked out well for us.
28:16
It would've worked out really well if maybe we didn't commit penalties
28:21
down near the red zone to where it, it pushed us out of…
28:26
He had one touchdown where he hit Kupp in the back of the end zone.
28:30
That comes back.
28:31
He gets down to the two-yard line, and then whether or not it was just
28:35
getting the play call in on time to where, they end up taking the
28:38
delay of game and going backward.
28:40
And I guess that was my biggest problem with this game, is that I felt like w-
28:49
our Seahawks left points out on the field.
28:51
Adam: Lots of them.
28:52
Brandan: Yeah.
28:52
Lots of them.
28:53
Adam: No, no doubt about it.
28:54
And while frustrating in the moment as we were up in the stands there
28:58
Brandan, also that same thing is extra encouraging going forward.
29:04
Like, we, we don't look at the offense throwing up 13 points and being like
29:07
"Oh my God, Brian Flores a disaster and, we, we won't have any chance without
29:13
Kubiak," because that wasn't the case.
29:15
Like, the style of the offense and how we played and all of that was
29:19
very similar, and it looked like that there's a lot of room to grow.
29:24
you know, and like I said, Drew had some huge shows.
29:26
I mean, there was that big inbreaker to…
29:29
Was it JSN?
29:30
I think it was JSN.
29:31
Yeah.
29:31
Yep.
29:31
Yep, it
29:31
Brandan: was JSN.
29:32
Adam: Yep, and then he had a, you know, a quick out that he
29:35
had to hit, you know, feet all discombobulated because, the blitz
29:40
was coming, you know, right at him.
29:42
Got it out to him, did a nice job there, and then that throw
29:44
to Kupp, pretty sweet.
29:47
He did have a, I wanna say it was the same drive that he hit Kupp on
29:51
I think it was maybe the next play.
29:53
Was that where he tried to throw a fade to JSN?
29:57
Was that that same drive?
29:59
Brandan: That could've been.
29:59
Was that that same drive, I'm not sure.
30:00
And because that was the one they settled for the field goal
30:02
they got their first points.
30:03
Adam: Yeah.
30:04
And, man, I, I couldn't believe it.
30:07
He missed a wide open Shaheed for a touchdown that was on
30:10
a slant underneath of it.
30:11
Like-
30:11
Brandan: Yeah
30:12
… Adam: his eyes are even that way, you know?
30:14
And it's like, man, if you can not throw a fade and get to the slant
30:18
then, you know, better for it.
30:21
But here's the thing, is that even with missing that, having some nice
30:24
big boy throws, being very professional throughout the game, I tell you what-
30:29
There is no way in hell I wanna see him do something stupid like bring
30:33
in, you know, Handsome Jimmy or…
30:36
Like, 'cause that was one of the narratives that you heard out
30:38
there, like, "Oh, they're gonna need to bring in a quarterback."
30:40
hell no.
30:41
Brandan: Why?
30:42
Adam: No, thank you.
30:42
Yeah.
30:43
Brandan: Why, why would you go through all of the off-season of having a, a
30:48
quarterback like Lock who went out and showed why he, he should be the backup-
30:54
Adam: Top
30:54
Brandan: two backup… and why would you bring, why would you bring in
30:56
somebody completely different to then be the, the, the guy ahead of Lock?
31:02
That, that makes m- zero sense to me unless, unless- But he's done
31:06
Adam: it before, Brandan
31:07
… Brandan: unless there's, there, there, there's one scenario I
31:10
could see playing out, Adam-
31:12
Adam: Eh
31:12
… Brandan: is we play the San Francisco 49ers and we brack- we bring back Russell
31:16
Carrington Wilson to take down the Niners.
31:19
Adam: That'd be fun.
31:20
I mean, I didn't really get to see how his, debut in the booth was or
31:25
on the halftime shows- I didn't
31:26
Brandan: either
31:26
Adam: and all
31:26
Brandan: that.
31:26
I just know he has the Niners number and I, I want that to continue.
31:29
That's the- Yeah… that's my only thought process behind that.
31:31
Cool.
31:31
It's not gonna happen, but it, it would be fun.
31:34
Adam: Here's the thing.
31:35
If you, if you get into Sam's phone right now and you start looking through
31:39
you know, 49ers, you won't find them.
31:41
If you look under 69ers, Sam Darnold has their number there, too.
31:44
Like, because he ate their lunch, you know, twice in a row here last season
31:51
and barely lost the first game, off of other butt stuff, like with Abe
31:56
Lucas's butt causing a fumble, I guess.
31:58
So, I, I'm not too worried about Sam, when he does get back
32:02
being able to, steal the heart out of the Niners once again.
32:07
and also, too, like, this is why you pay a top-tier backup in Drew Lock.
32:12
This is why you spend third round draft picks on developmental
32:15
quarterbacks like Jalen Milroe, who flashed in the preseason, who give
32:19
you a lot of confidence as him as the number two until Sam gets healthy.
32:24
Brandan: All right.
32:24
I do wanna talk a little more quarterback stuff, here as we get into the
32:28
Cardinals, but one other guy I feel like we should talk about before
32:32
moving on to the next part of the show, our running back, our rookie running
32:36
back, Jadarian Price, 10 carries, 52 yards, has two receptions, and
32:42
it felt like I wanted to see more.
32:46
I wanted to see more.
32:48
Adam: Patience, young man, patience.
32:50
Like, look, I do too.
32:52
We all wanna see more after watching, Jadarian's debut here.
32:57
His ability to get to the edge and have that burst, like, I don't know what his
33:00
long speed looks like yet in the league- Yeah… 'cause w- we haven't seen it.
33:04
But that, going from, like, third to fourth gear to catch the edge
33:10
and then we'll see what happens when he gets, into the open
33:13
field and can kick it into overdrive.
33:15
But that third to fourth gear, man, that burst is real.
33:19
The vision is real.
33:20
The lack of wasted steps on every one of his cutbacks, real.
33:25
His penchant to try to get more north-south and hit the run as
33:33
it's designed, that's real.
33:35
That, that's a big difference between him and Canine.
33:39
Canine's instinct is really to get outside at all times, and because he's
33:44
the athlete he is, he can get away with that and be awesome doing that.
33:47
But Jadarian's a different cat now.
33:49
And I, I'm just stoked to see his growth throughout the year.
33:55
And being a young guy, no pre-season stuff to, like, kinda get your feet
33:59
wet and all that, I can see why they're easing him into this game
34:04
and trying not to overload him.
34:05
It makes sense.
34:06
Brandan: And I thought it was easing in too, 'cause it, it just
34:10
felt like they were easing him in.
34:12
But then when I went back, the Seahawks only had 45 offensive snaps.
34:17
Yeah.
34:18
And Price was out there for at least 20 of them.
34:21
So- Really, if the game plan was just to, to split carries, I don't…
34:27
I, I can understand wanting to ease him in because here's a guy who, he wasn't the
34:33
like, the workhorse back at Notre Dame.
34:36
He was the guy behind Jeremiah Love.
34:38
So he, he hasn't had that…
34:42
He wasn't the guy to go out and give 20-plus carries to anyway.
34:46
Yeah.
34:46
And to go out and then do that.
34:48
The only way I thought that they might do that is with the Sam
34:51
Darnold injury, that they go, "Well, throw that plan out the window."
34:56
And when we saw what he did on his first couple carries, hey, maybe we
34:59
get to 25 carries for this guy, and I would've been okay with it after
35:03
what I saw, but they did seem to have a plan and then stick to it.
35:07
Adam: Yeah.
35:08
And that shows the maturity of the coaching staff, and Mike Macdonald
35:13
is a Super Bowl-winning coach being like, "Look, we have a plan.
35:16
We know when we stick to our plan, it works out well."
35:18
And the evidence is last year, they really did, much to our chagrin, I know I sat
35:24
on this podcast and bitched and moaned for, like, three-quarters of a season
35:28
about give K9 The Ball more and less Sharps, and it was that distribution of
35:34
workload that allowed Kenneth Walker to be healthy going down the stretch and become
35:38
Super Bowl MVP and lift the Lombardi.
35:40
So, who am I to question that anymore?
35:43
if they've got a plan for the backs, I'm here for it.
35:46
I would be curious to see a little more of Manuel Wilson maybe as the other back-
35:52
Brandan: Yeah
35:52
… Adam: over Holani.
35:53
I just, I know Holani's a great story and a great dude and all of
35:58
that, but That's a lot of meh for me, like when he touches the football.
36:04
Brandan: And he was, when you look at the charts, Holani was the only
36:08
back in when it came to third down.
36:11
So he was, he was gonna be the third down guy.
36:14
That feels like where he fits in this offense right now.
36:18
And yeah, if you're…
36:20
I, I do wonder though, because you, you did hear a little bit about
36:26
the offense being limited because with them only having 45 plays.
36:32
Say they were able to keep some drives going and march the ball, I, I have
36:36
to think that Price gets a few more carries, but yeah, we probably do get some
36:40
Emmanuel Wis- Wilson carries in there too.
36:43
Adam: Yeah.
36:43
Well, what's gonna be fun is that I do think that the world is gonna be their
36:47
oyster, defensively and offensively speaking, as they go up against the
36:52
Dirty Birds in the desert here.
36:55
And I'm looking forward to that match up as well.
36:57
But some really positive stuff out of Price's debut, and some stuff that should
37:03
have you fired up because that's what an NF- like a top flight NFL caliber running
37:09
back looks like in terms of decisiveness, in terms of technique, in terms of
37:14
speed, in terms of power, in terms of falling forward every single play.
37:19
And I can't wait to see him out rush his running back mate from Notre Dame, Mr.
37:24
Jeremiah Love next.
37:25
Brandan: I, I know you're excited to get there, and I am too.
37:28
I am.
37:28
You did bring up, though, that, something that you…
37:31
I, I don't know if you were looking to mention it- Yes… in the
37:33
second half of the show- No… or if you wanted to mention it now.
37:36
Adam: We can do it now because I just don't understand this for the life of me.
37:39
I heard this phrase a billion times over the last week here.
37:43
"Well, you know, if Doubs just doesn't drop the ball there, then Drake
37:46
Maye doesn't throw an interception."
37:49
Brandan: Oh.
37:49
What?
37:50
Oh, it was the Doubs drop that, that changed this entire game?
37:54
Adam: How?
37:54
How, how on God's green earth…
37:55
Like, how does that make it so that the next play, like how does
37:59
that guarantee the next play that he doesn't throw a boneheaded interception?
38:02
Like, or even two plays after that.
38:04
Like, how, how does Doubs dropping the ball there affect future stupid
38:08
Drake Maye throwing more picks?
38:10
Like, that's, that doesn't make sense in any way.
38:14
Brandan: No.
38:16
W- w- where does that come from?
38:17
That, that, that…
38:18
Of, of all the things that I think could have happened differently in the
38:22
game, that is probably the low- one of the lowest on the list for the, the
38:29
Patriots, because I would think, you know, gosh, if, i- if, if Maye just
38:34
throws it on time, on that final play, or if, I don't know, if the…
38:42
Guess the, the throw to Doubs, that wasn't the greatest either
38:45
but- Yeah, there's just a lot of different places that I, I think of.
38:50
You know, if, Gonzalez comes up with an interception in, in one of those-
38:56
Adam: Mm-hmm
38:56
… Brandan: on the one pass that he got his hands on.
38:59
If, yeah, i- if they don't settle, end up settling for field
39:06
goals in a couple situations.
39:07
I don't know.
39:08
I, I look at our Seahawks- I just-… and I, I have- Yeah… way more what if
39:11
scenarios than I do for the Patriots.
39:13
Adam: Yeah, exactly.
39:14
I just can't understand how if Doubs catches that ball, that somehow affects
39:18
the way that Drake Maye is throwing the football on subsequent plays.
39:22
Like, I heard Chris Simms say this.
39:23
I heard a bunch of dudes, who are smart dudes, "Oh, if Doubs just
39:26
catches the ball there, then Drake Maye doesn't throw an interception later."
39:30
So [catfish] stupid.
39:31
Like, I don't…
39:32
Like, what Sliding Doors episode is this?
39:34
Did I miss, like, an episode of Inception or something, or movie Inception?
39:37
I don't know, man.
39:38
Doesn't make any sense.
39:40
It bothers…
39:40
It's, it's been under my skin all week, dude.
39:43
Like, just can't stand it.
39:44
Brandan: It's, it's bothering me now to the…
39:46
I…
39:47
When, when Doubs dropped that, that was-
39:50
Adam: Like, third quarter?
39:52
Brandan: I, I thought it was fourth quarter.
39:54
I'm trying to- Maybe
39:54
Adam: it was fourth quarter
39:55
… Brandan: I, I'm trying to, to now find-
39:58
Adam: In the sequencing of plays there.
40:00
Yeah.
40:00
And then I've also heard, Brandan, as you're looking that up, other people
40:03
being like, "Well, if Doubs just catches that ball, they win the football game."
40:06
What?
40:07
There's a crap ton of football to be played left.
40:09
you know, like, I just- I don't know, man.
40:12
May- maybe, maybe it's just the East Coast biasers out there
40:16
like, looking for excuses and- Yeah
40:18
trying to, you know, make excuses for the sche- Drake, the Schedule Maye.
40:22
Like, whatever it is, I don't know.
40:24
Brandan: Okay.
40:25
It, it's because it was fourth quarter, it was second and 14, and
40:31
Doubs, if, if he would've caught that, then it would've been a first down.
40:36
Adam: I'll, I'll concede that.
40:38
If Romeo Doubs catches the ball, it would've been a first down.
40:41
That, that would be, something that I could get with, yeah.
40:44
Brandan: But that would've only still been at, like, the New England 40 or 45.
40:49
Yeah.
40:49
Let's say, let's give him the 45, 'cause he did have some space around him.
40:52
The dude was wide open.
40:54
Like, that was a ridiculous drop.
40:55
Yeah.
40:55
I would be, I, I would be very upset if I had Doubs on my team
41:01
and he, he made a drop like…
41:03
It was reminiscent of the Dolphins game in the opener where, who was the
41:08
dude that, he was just, like, wide open and it hit his hands for a, a touchdown.
41:12
It just dropped.
41:13
You
41:13
Adam: watched Dolphins football already this year?
41:15
Brandan: No, that was…
41:16
I'm talking about the opener between the Seahawks and Dolphins
41:19
like five or six years ago.
41:20
Adam: Oh, God, that's too many years for me to remember.
41:23
I have no idea, man.
41:23
Yeah.
41:24
Brandan: But, it, so that Doubs drop, then the next
41:29
pass was the Julian Love play.
41:31
So I guess the thought process is that Maye doesn't try and hit the first down
41:37
on a third and 14 because it's first down.
41:41
But even if they get the first down there, there's other…
41:44
there're gonna be other third downs on that drive.
41:47
Adam: There's gonna be other opportunities for boneheaded Drake
41:49
Maye to, like, lose his patience and throw it into the, you know
41:53
loaded secondary, you know?
41:54
Like-
41:55
Brandan: Yeah, he already lost his patience once on
41:57
the Pritchett interception.
41:58
Yeah.
41:59
Adam: Yeah.
41:59
So what happened on all the other interceptions?
42:01
Like, I mean, did somebody drop it before those interceptions
42:04
that caused him to throw…
42:05
I just, I, it, I don't know.
42:07
Whatever.
42:07
Brandan: He had a great drive going, that final drive.
42:09
I thought that they were gonna settle for a field goal.
42:11
Adam: Yeah.
42:12
Yep.
42:13
I thought so too.
42:14
But, nope, they settled for an L, and that was awesome.
42:18
Brandan: Well, another team that we hope is gonna be settling for an L is the
42:22
stupid Arizona Cardinals and their opening game on their home field for the 26th
42:28
season, and it is going to be the matchup of the two Notre Dame running backs, Adam.
42:34
Adam: Yeah, it is.
42:34
In…
42:35
There's a lot of interesting matchups in this game.
42:37
we're gonna see L.J.
42:38
Collier again.
42:40
Like, all sorts of, interesting stuff.
42:41
That's
42:41
Brandan: where you go first, huh?
42:42
That, that's the, that's the one guy that you're most interested on the, the just-
42:45
Adam: Dude, he actually had a TFL against the Chargers.
42:47
Like, I was like, wow, that, that's impressive.
42:50
But- I, I was actually kind of impressed with the Cardinals' effort week one.
42:55
Now, is it just week one weirdness and they don't l- you know, win another game
42:59
and they're competing for the number one pick here by the end of the year?
43:03
Or was kind of their steady professionalism, like, is, is
43:09
that gonna show up again when the Seahawks come to town?
43:13
Brandan: I think that, yeah, it was…
43:17
I guess that was the biggest takeaway in their matchup with the Chargers, is
43:21
that they just seemed steady and prepared for the game in a way that I was not
43:30
expecting an Arizona Cardinals team- Right
43:32
to look in week one on the road, in the first game of a head coach
43:38
with a new team, going up against a veteran coach in Jim Harbaugh.
43:44
And they go out, and they were clearly the best team on the field that day.
43:51
Adam: Yeah.
43:51
It was shocking.
43:52
And I think maybe the thing that shocked me the most is that I understand the
43:56
Chargers lost their starting center, in the off-season, but they get their
44:00
tackles back, and their offensive line is a lot healthier than it was last year.
44:04
And you know how Harbaugh likes to talk about his offensive linemans as being
44:10
weapons, and they got whipped up front.
44:13
Like, Cardinals were doing work up there.
44:16
And, you know, and we're talking with, with dudes that…
44:20
I mean, none of these make me weak in the knees when I'm looking at it, you know?
44:24
I mean, Walter Nolan was their first-round pick from last year, injured and all
44:27
that for the majority of the year.
44:29
Mm-hmm.
44:29
Josh Sweat got the big money last year, and, like, he's aight.
44:32
Like, that's fine.
44:34
Roy Lopez as their starting left defensive tackle.
44:38
Do you know who Roy Lopez is?
44:39
I don't.
44:40
Was he on a sitcom in the '90s, maybe?
44:42
Brandan: Yeah.
44:43
I, I think- Yeah… that was a different Lopez.
44:45
Adam: Yeah, yeah.
44:46
He
44:46
Brandan: he might be- Maybe Mario… he might be brothers with George.
44:49
Adam: Maybe this is Mario's, really young
44:53
young, younger brother, you know?
44:55
Brandan: Yeah
44:55
Adam: could be.
44:55
Like, mom had a, an oopsie at the age of 50 or something.
44:58
But, yeah, man, I…
45:00
You look at the, the overall roster of the Cardinals on defense in, especially
45:07
up front, and you're going, how in the world did they get the type of pressure
45:11
that they did against this Chargers team?
45:13
With, you know, all of the hullabaloo about, Mike McDaniel being there
45:19
as the offensive coordinator, so.
45:21
Brandan: Yeah.
45:21
I, I thought- That was interesting… the Chargers were gonna score
45:23
a billion points now that they have Mike McDaniel as their OC.
45:28
Adam: Right.
45:28
But they didn't.
45:29
No.
45:29
They struggled all game long.
45:31
they picked off Herbert.
45:33
you know, Wingard had that nice pick.
45:36
You, you'd brought that up to, to me when we were speaking off air.
45:39
That was a quick pick.
45:39
Brandan: Wingard had a nice hit, too.
45:41
I, I think that was the thing that impressed me the most about
45:44
the Cardinals, is that generally the dude who, that impresses me
45:48
in the secondary is Budda Baker.
45:50
And I saw, I, I think I saw a nice play from Max Melton.
45:55
I think- Yeah… there may have even been a Will Johnson play
45:58
in there, and then Wingard had the, the INT and some big hits.
46:01
So I, I think that was- Now going into this game against the Cardinals, I, I
46:09
am wondering how Drew Lock with JSN…
46:13
Now, you brought up JSN being inevitable.
46:17
I, I have to think that as impressed as I was with the Cardinals'
46:21
secondary, I, I don't, I still don't see anybody who's stopping JSN.
46:26
Adam: No.
46:26
Max Melton hurt his ankle too in that game.
46:28
We'll see.
46:29
I mean, he came back to the game, so we'll see how that kind of tracks throughout
46:32
the, the rest of, the week here.
46:35
But yeah, man, secondary outside of, of Baker, I mean, again, you know, Max
46:41
Melton and Denzel Burke, I mean, sure.
46:44
okay.
46:45
Those are guys that you could put out there if that was something that you
46:49
Brandan: wanted to do.
46:49
I mean, they're gonna have to.
46:50
Those are their best dudes.
46:51
Adam: Yeah.
46:51
And look, as poorly as the Chargers offensive line performed, I have
46:58
a feeling that the Seahawks offensive line is not gonna have the same sort
47:02
of fits that the Chargers did there.
47:06
I really do feel like they can have their way with this
47:08
defense for the most part.
47:10
I, I predict something i- in the neighborhood of, like, 24-ish plus
47:15
points scored for the offense, and that'll be far more than needed.
47:18
and we put the Cards back down in the basement with the Rams where they belong.
47:24
Brandan: 'Cause that's the thing.
47:25
Jacoby Brissett, he's, he's not gonna look as good against the Seahawks
47:31
defense as he did the Chargers defense.
47:34
Adam: No, definitely not.
47:36
And that was one of the better games I've seen Brissett play.
47:38
But don't get it twisted, he's a, he's a, he's a professional quarterback
47:43
that c- you can pencil him in at, like, 27th best quarterback in the league.
47:47
And that's not like throwing shade at Jacoby Brissett, right?
47:50
Like, there's only 26 other guys that can do it better than him.
47:53
And-
47:53
Brandan: Yeah
47:55
… Adam: I, I thought he played pretty well.
47:56
I, I seen in the comments here Marlon, talking about Will Johnson at corner.
48:03
We'll see.
48:03
I, I, I know that he had the big injury in college, came back last year and, and
48:08
had some moments, but, you know, not really one of those athletic type corners.
48:13
And if you're not one of those guys, good luck keeping up
48:18
with the likes of Rasheed Shaheed.
48:20
Good luck keeping up with JSN.
48:21
Like- Yeah.
48:22
Brandan: Will Campbell could cover Cooper Kupp well.
48:25
th- that's, that's fine.
48:28
But-
48:28
Adam: Yeah, Will Dodson?
48:29
Yeah.
48:29
Brandan: Yeah.
48:30
but with JSN, with Shaheed, I, I guess the thing- Maybe we'll
48:35
Adam: see a Horton too, for
48:36
Brandan: all we know Maybe.
48:37
Maybe we'll yeah, finally see some Horton.
48:39
I…
48:42
On the offensive side, and this was the thing that I, I remembered
48:47
Trey McBride's very good.
48:50
He's like-
48:51
Adam: Yeah, Trey McBride is still Trey McBride.
48:53
He, he was kicking ass and taking names.
48:54
Brandan: I, I wish w- you know, s- speaking of guys who I wish we'd have
48:57
back, I would like to have Nick Emmanwori for, on the defensive side of the ball
49:03
with, going up against Trey McBride.
49:05
Adam: I mean, it could be in range.
49:06
Mike has been super cagey about the injuries.
49:09
He's having a good time being cagey about the injuries, with the big
49:13
smiles every time, it's brought up.
49:16
Charlie the unicorn here, just, dropped a comment
49:19
that is-… absolute blasphemy and I will not stand for it.
49:22
Brissette better than Bo Nix.
49:24
look- He
49:25
Brandan: had a better week one than Bo Nix
49:27
Adam: That's fair.
49:28
Bo has had a slow start to every single one of his NFL seasons, to this point.
49:32
So that's just on track, a guy that should've been in the Super Bowl last
49:36
year, but, his ankle betrayed him.
49:38
Jacoby Brissette could never have that said about him, so.
49:42
Brandan: Well, the other thing that Jacoby Brissette enjoyed in
49:46
week one against the Chargers was a running game, that with Tyler Allgeier
49:51
Jeremiah Love, the, the Seahawks are gonna be loading up to stop the run.
49:58
And- As…
49:58
Adam: Yeah
49:59
… Brandan: we, we've seen them do that in the past, and succeed.
50:03
Adam: Yeah.
50:04
I think, I think their concentration will be on stopping the run.
50:08
I think that's a better word for it- Sure… because they don't
50:10
load up to stop the run for anybody.
50:12
Like, you ain't, you ain't getting us out of nickel.
50:14
like, this is what we're doing and they're
50:18
Brandan: able to- I, I was speaking purely mentality wise.
50:20
Adam: Yeah, exactly.
50:21
Exactly.
50:21
Concentration wise, right?
50:23
Yeah.
50:23
Yeah.
50:23
And that makes all the sense.
50:24
Yeah, that's where your focus is gonna be.
50:26
The second focus is gonna be on Trey McBride.
50:29
and then, and then…
50:34
Brandan: I thought Michael Wilson- Who?
50:36
… he always runs hard after he catches the ball
50:40
Adam: I, I'll take your word on it because everybody keeps telling me Michael
50:43
Wilson's good and I, I don't know how many times I've even seen him catch a football.
50:47
speaking of guys who don't catch footballs, as a professional
50:50
wide receiver, Marvin Harrison Jr I think only had one reception, or at
50:54
least, throughout the game there was a point where he only had one.
50:57
he's a non-factor still.
50:59
He can't get on the same page with Kyler.
51:01
He can't get on the same page with, Jacoby.
51:04
bust?
51:05
Like, are we getting into bust territory with him?
51:08
I'm, I'm thinking maybe.
51:10
Brandan: I'm not too worried about Harrison.
51:12
I think the, the one matchup that I, I would be concerned about
51:18
being a mismatch would be Michael Wilson on Nehemiah Pritchett.
51:23
Adam: Wrong.
51:24
I, I don't worry about that for two seconds.
51:26
That guy is not a…
51:28
Like, the way people talk about Michael Wilson is, like, one of the…
51:32
It's like- He's
51:32
Brandan: a better Romeo Doubs.
51:34
Adam: Is he?
51:35
Brandan: He doesn't drop that Doubs pass.
51:39
Adam: Maybe.
51:40
I mean, I don't know, man.
51:41
I
51:42
Brandan: see them- See, Nate shoots and Chad agrees with me.
51:43
Wilson has some good hands.
51:45
Adam: Well, that's great.
51:45
but the, the rest of his game must stink if that's the case
51:49
because the dude is, like, I can't even say delightfully average.
51:53
Like, he's dead nuts average.
51:54
Like, I don't, I don't see anything special about that guy, at all.
51:59
I think you could put Cody White out there and have just
52:02
as much success, if not more.
52:04
Brandan: Ooh.
52:06
Yokai Hawk saying T.
52:07
Knight on McBride.
52:09
maybe.
52:10
Adam: I, I could probably see, like, a lot of, like, Spood and a linebacker
52:14
bracketing things and stuff like that.
52:17
Maybe they'll rotate a safety down late if they need to, to try to help
52:21
things out with McBride at times.
52:23
and also too, Brandan, I mean, you brought up the idea of, you know
52:27
having some Nick in the box- Yeah… and we could see him in more in this game.
52:32
Brandan: It's within range, and we're- that's one of the names we'll
52:35
be watching when it comes to the injury report throughout this week.
52:38
I know when we have our Saturday show, that's, that's o- one of
52:42
the things that, we wanna see.
52:44
KNTP, STP music.
52:46
I wanna see Eman.
52:47
I, I think that's, that's a guy on defense- Bro, I like
52:50
Eman… w- we, we, we're all in.
52:52
And we did see, I think maybe 14 snaps defensively out of the 70 or so of Tyrese
53:00
Knight out there with the linebackers.
53:03
I…
53:04
He wasn't a factor to where I, in the way that I thought he was gonna be.
53:08
But maybe going up against, this Cardinals offense where McBride is such
53:14
a focal point of the offense, maybe they do go a little bit heavier if for some
53:18
reason that, Nick isn't able to go.
53:22
Adam: I feel like T.
53:23
Knight would have a little bit better coverage skills than Drake Thomas.
53:25
I mean, Drake's real, like, special trait is his ability to
53:31
read and react so quickly and just pull the trigger on things.
53:35
And, I think that's pretty, pretty awesome there.
53:39
you know, kind of going back to the Cards defense for half a tick
53:43
one of the things that popped off the screen was how many freaking
53:46
battered balls did they have?
53:48
Like, there's no way that's dupli- y- they could duplicate that for week two.
53:52
But I feel like they had at least four or five passes deflected at
53:57
the line of scrimmage, against a tall quarterback in Herbert.
54:00
Brandan: Yeah.
54:01
That could be
54:05
I, I don't know if Herbert has had that issue traditionally, or- No… if
54:09
that was just them being locked in on the defensive line, but that is…
54:15
It, it was odd that, that it showed up s- as much as it did
54:19
against Herbert and the Chargers.
54:21
And yeah, whether that was just a coaching point of the defense that week or…
54:27
yeah, there's- I'm with you.
54:29
That seems very unlikely that they put together back-to-back weeks where
54:33
they're throwing up their hands and, and batting balls down randomly.
54:36
Adam: High variance stuff, you know?
54:38
And Seahawks will be getting healthier.
54:40
I mean, you gotta think that Ty Okada's gonna have a chance to play.
54:44
You think Nick Emmanwori probably got a chance to play.
54:47
You gotta think that Tory Horton is, gotta be getting somewhere
54:50
close, like come on now.
54:51
Oh, yeah.
54:51
Like y- that, that feels, that feels right.
54:54
obviously we won't have Sam, but I am looking forward to a full Drew
54:58
Lock game and a full week and a half of preparation for him, and, to see if
55:03
he can, you know, duplicate the success that he had against a playoff team from
55:07
last year, even if they were fraudulent.
55:09
And, I think he can take it out on a fraudulent team, just
55:14
NFL team in the, in the Cardinals.
55:17
Brandan: Where do you stand on this?
55:18
I do wanna see Drew Lock, but going back to last year, I, I was opposed to the
55:24
idea of Jalen Milroe packages, especially with the way Sam Darnold was playing.
55:31
Like it just- Mm-hmm… it didn't make sense to take Sam off the field, who was
55:36
the, the more, the dominant quarterback.
55:39
Now that it's Drew Lock out there, do your feelings change?
55:43
'Cause I think mine do.
55:44
I, I think that I am more open to the idea of having some Jalen Milroe package
55:50
plays, especially throwing it out there against these Arizona Cardinals.
55:56
I, I think I wanna see it.
56:00
Adam: I think I'm with you, man.
56:02
Like, because I was adamant last year.
56:03
I was like, "I don't want any of this Mickey Mouse [catfish]."
56:06
Like, let's, let's make sure that he goes out and develops as a quarterback
56:09
like, why are we doing this, like Taysom Hill nonsense or, and all of that.
56:13
And obviously we didn't do it much, and when we did do it, it was, It
56:16
Brandan: it didn't work very
56:17
Adam: well, no… it was a disaster, right?
56:18
But, yeah, in this case…
56:21
'Cause like I, I think they're very different quarterbacks at
56:24
this stages in their careers.
56:27
but in terms of like what they could bring to the offense
56:31
in terms of overall ability, I think it's closer than you'd think.
56:35
I don't think Drew's like- You know, Sam Darnold leaps ahead of where
56:39
Jalen Milroe is right now as an overall quarterback if you take into
56:43
account the legs and everything.
56:45
Brandan: Yeah.
56:45
Adam: And so if that's the case, or maybe even if the offense is going through
56:49
a, a tough spell and, you know, k- just struggling a little bit, get Milroe out
56:54
there, get an ex- exciting play going, and all of a sudden now you're cooking.
56:58
So yeah, I could, I could see it.
57:01
Brandan: The Charlie the Unicorn in chat says, "No way."
57:03
Okay.
57:03
And-
57:04
Adam: Fair enough
57:04
… Brandan: the, the way I could- If they were…
57:10
My thought process on this too is you have this week to get
57:14
Drew Lock prepared for this game.
57:17
Do you really want to be messing around trying to install
57:20
Jalen Milroe package plays?
57:22
you would have had some of that, I suppose, in the preseason.
57:25
Yeah.
57:25
But it does feel like if you're gonna throw out, throw it out there in this
57:28
game, you might want to practice it.
57:30
And maybe it's not so smart to take away from Drew Lock practice time this week
57:35
in preparation against the Cardinals.
57:37
Adam: Extra practice time this week, though, with the- Yeah… the
57:40
previous game being played on Wednesday.
57:42
So, you know, maybe you've got it.
57:44
Yeah.
57:45
Look
57:45
Brandan: man, I- Nate shoots F it.
57:46
Start Milroe.
57:47
Adam: Dude, I-… I, I'm totally comfortable with Drew Lock.
57:51
I'm happy with Drew Lock going out there, all of that.
57:54
Like, the coaching staff can make their decision.
57:55
Obviously, he's number two on the depth chart for a reason in their mind.
57:58
But I'm with Nate here, man.
58:00
I would love to see Milroe just get a start.
58:02
In fact, this is an interesting question, Brandan.
58:05
Let's say, let's say Darnold, his injury was 12 weeks, right?
58:12
Brandan: Sure.
58:12
Adam: All right.
58:13
Do you want to roll with Drew Lock for 12 weeks or would
58:16
you rather see Jalen Milroe?
58:19
'Cause I think I'd rather see Milroe if that's the case.
58:23
Not that it's happening.
58:24
I, obviously, it, it sounds short term and all that.
58:26
Yeah.
58:26
So then this is, this is in the what if category.
58:29
And maybe you and, and Phil and Clinton can-… dive into this on What
58:33
If later this week when you guys do the, the preview for the Cards game.
58:37
Brandan: The reason why I'd be with you is because if you're talking about
58:42
a 12-week injury, then you're also…
58:44
then it probably isn't the same type of injury that Darnold ended up with.
58:49
Adam: Right.
58:49
Brandan: And if you're talking about Darnold having a hip injury-… and
58:53
it being like a l-…
58:55
Yeah, Charlie the Unicorn terminal butt.
58:57
Oh
58:57
Adam: we both clicked at the same time.
58:58
Yeah.
58:59
That's
58:59
Brandan: hilarious.
58:59
Charlie the Unicorn saying terminal butt injury.
59:02
yeah.
59:03
The good thing is it's not a terminal butt injury.
59:05
But, yeah, if you're- Never… talking about it being a hip injury
59:08
and not knowing how he's gonna respond to that, then you're getting into
59:12
the territory of long-term feeling comfortable paying Sam Darnold
59:18
because of this- That's a good point
59:19
weird injury.
59:20
And, and then you want to see if this quarterback of the
59:23
future thing can work out.
59:24
And so, yeah, then I'd be with you for the 12 weeks.
59:28
But, you know, it, it's possible that Drew could be that guy.
59:31
I mean, he's…
59:32
He has the same, similar types of arm talent that Darnold has.
59:38
There's nothing to say that with reps and in this offense that Drew can't
59:43
come in and be 90% of Sam Darnold.
59:48
Adam: Look, we, or at least me, giant doubting Darnold.
59:55
Like I, I, when he came in, like, he, his whole career I've just never been
59:59
a Sam Darnold guy, up until last year, and now he's my quarterback.
1:00:03
Like I, you know, it, it's all changed because he went out on the
1:00:06
field and proved everybody wrong.
1:00:08
I think one of the real, benefits of Mike Macdonald saying, "We're
1:00:16
not gonna have their offense or this offense or whatever, we're gonna have
1:00:20
the Seahawks offense," is that the way they play football, it's not…
1:00:24
I mean, every offense is quarterback-centric to a degree
1:00:27
but This offense is like, you, you watch Shanahan like roll through
1:00:32
quarterbacks like underwear, right?
1:00:33
And- Right… like, and have success with a lot of them.
1:00:36
So there is a real path for Drew to come in and have a big couple weeks.
1:00:42
And I think one of the things, because it's a shorter term injury
1:00:45
that is important, is that you have to change offense less for Drew
1:00:48
like, 'cause stylistically him and Sam are probably closer to the same
1:00:52
quarterback than like Sam and, and Jalen.
1:00:55
So it makes more sense to bring in Drew for a few weeks, and I think he could go
1:00:59
off and have a monster, couple games.
1:01:01
You said 90% of Sam Darnold.
1:01:04
I honestly believe now, because anything is possible in this league
1:01:07
with-… all the resurrected quarterbacks, that we could see 100% of
1:01:12
Sam Darnold production out of Drew Lock over the course of a couple games here.
1:01:16
Brandan: I just wasn't ready to go 100% Sam Darnold straight
1:01:19
out of the gate with Drew Lock.
1:01:20
Adam: I'm just saying it's on the board.
1:01:21
I'm not saying that that's like if we're playing the what's more likely
1:01:24
game that that's the most likely thing.
1:01:26
Brandan: Yeah.
1:01:26
Adam: But I, I'm not ruling much out, from here on forward.
1:01:32
Brandan: We got Rick Darcy saying, "It's great that Arizona beat the LA Chargers.
1:01:36
We will take them seriously."
1:01:39
And if that…
1:01:40
I- if there's anything positive that I could…
1:01:42
Well, there are some other positives that I could take away from the
1:01:45
the Cardinals beating the Chargers.
1:01:47
But if there's one thing that is maybe most critical to our Seahawks
1:01:50
success, it is that, yeah, Mike Macdonald's not gonna let the
1:01:56
the Seahawks, yeah, overlook the Cardinals now going into week two.
1:02:02
Adam: They didn't overlook-
1:02:03
Brandan: Not that he is going to
1:02:03
Adam: anyway.
1:02:03
Yeah, they didn't overlook nobody last year.
1:02:05
Mike in his mentality and this team's mentality, they're so
1:02:08
business-minded, so process-focused.
1:02:10
Like, it's hard for me to imagine that we'll, we'll get done with any game.
1:02:16
Let's say they even lost to the Cardinals, lost badly.
1:02:18
I, I have a hard time thinking that if even that happened
1:02:22
that we go, "You know what?
1:02:23
I don't think they took them seriously."
1:02:25
I just don't think that's this team's DNA.
1:02:27
Brandan: It, it doesn't seem like it is.
1:02:29
Adam: Yeah.
1:02:31
Brandan: Charlie the Unicorn saying, "You need Darnold for the 49ers."
1:02:36
We'll see.
1:02:38
I, I, I'm just-
1:02:39
Adam: I don't know.
1:02:39
All we have to do is score what?
1:02:42
10.
1:02:43
17 points?
1:02:45
Yeah.
1:02:45
I love…
1:02:46
See, here's the greatest part.
1:02:47
Well, now we can get into the second half of the show-… where we talk a little
1:02:50
bit of, Niners-Rams because, that game turned out just, perfectly.
1:02:57
It was.
1:02:57
Just perfectly for a number of reasons.
1:02:59
Brandan: It was so perfect.
1:03:00
you have me so excited now to move on from this match up against the Cardinals
1:03:04
because I am looking forward- Ooh
1:03:06
to talking, yeah, the
1:03:09
Adam: I'll overlook them.
1:03:10
I don't give a crap.
1:03:12
Brandan: That's what we do- No… as fans.
1:03:13
We've been, we've been- Yeah… overlooking the Cardinals
1:03:15
for years, and that's why that, for Cardinals fans, the Seahawks
1:03:20
team is their number one rival.
1:03:21
I, I don't necess- I guess that's just- Can it be-… where we've landed
1:03:28
Adam: just one-sided?
1:03:28
I, but- Like, it, it…
1:03:28
That's like, that's like saying somebody's your girlfriend and they never agreed
1:03:31
to, like, be in a relationship with you.
1:03:33
Like, yeah.
1:03:34
we're the
1:03:35
Brandan: hot chick- We, we didn't agree-… that says no… to this rivalry.
1:03:36
Yeah, why- Yeah… why, why did you pick us?
1:03:38
There's- I-… other teams in the division.
1:03:41
Adam: Yeah.
1:03:41
Maybe, yeah, I don't know.
1:03:42
Maybe it has to do with that stupid Indian burial ground that
1:03:45
they built a stupid field on.
1:03:47
Like-
1:03:47
Brandan: Yeah, I know.
1:03:48
I saw, I think it was Yokai Hawk saying, "Do we wanna test you, man, on this
1:03:51
Indian burial ground of a stadium?"
1:03:54
Adam: That's fair.
1:03:55
That's fair.
1:03:56
Brandan: It is, it is fair.
1:03:57
Yeah.
1:03:58
But, you know, if w- if we're worrying about injuries to players and…
1:04:04
we, w- we've moved on from the years of serious injuries at, at Arizona.
1:04:10
And, It's over… knock on wood.
1:04:11
Yeah.
1:04:11
It's over.
1:04:12
We've just…
1:04:12
It's, it's over now.
1:04:14
Adam: Yeah.
1:04:14
All right, all over it, man.
1:04:16
Thank God there's lots of wood around here.
1:04:17
Yeah.
1:04:18
Brandan: All right, we're gonna be back, for the second
1:04:20
half of the show coming up next.
1:04:24
Brandan: Getting into the second half of the show, Adam.
1:04:28
Week one tied a record for the most points scored in the
1:04:33
opening week of an NFL season.
1:04:35
791 points.
1:04:38
It was the record set back in 2012.
1:04:40
It was the record tied just this past week.
1:04:44
791 total points.
1:04:48
Do you know which team in the NFL scored the fewest amount of points in week one?
1:04:56
Adam: The dirty, stupid, can't stand them L- fake Los Angeles Rams?
1:05:01
Brandan: The Los Angeles Rams.
1:05:03
The only team in the NFL- Oh, no.
1:05:06
… to score seven points or fewer in a game.
1:05:09
Adam, I hope, I hope the travel wasn't the issue, because then
1:05:15
maybe the Rams are just that bad.
1:05:17
Adam: Oh, my goodness.
1:05:19
Like, this was so delicious on a thousand levels.
1:05:24
Watching…
1:05:26
Although, the only problem, slightly, is the Niners being the one that did
1:05:30
the belt to ass performance here.
1:05:32
Right.
1:05:32
But there's actually a silver lining in that too, which I'll get to
1:05:36
which kind of made this perfect.
1:05:37
So the Lambs went out there and, flew to Australia, seemed to give
1:05:42
zero [catfish] about the game, just like they give about their first-round draft picks.
1:05:47
It was F them games for them, 'cause they didn't take Aaron Donald
1:05:51
they brought broken Miles Garrett with them, who did, jack and
1:05:56
[catfish] throughout the, the night.
1:05:58
Stafford looked like he's fallen off a cliff.
1:06:02
and it's interesting to me, Brandan, the way that everybody in the
1:06:07
media is just like, "Well, the travel.
1:06:09
I mean, they screwed it up.
1:06:10
They hired these consultants, and, you know, they sent Marge from accounting out
1:06:16
and she was like, 'It's totally fine.'"
1:06:18
You know?
1:06:18
Or whatever it is that they did- Yeah… to, like, ahead of time to decide this
1:06:22
is the way they were gonna do this.
1:06:24
and I'm sure it was a factor, right?
1:06:28
But-
1:06:28
Brandan: It, it couldn't not be a factor.
1:06:30
It w- leading up- No… to the game, how many people looked at what the Rams
1:06:35
were doing and said, "Oh, that's smart.
1:06:39
Why, why doesn't everybody do it that way?"
1:06:40
No, everybody looked at and they said, "Oh, well, Sean McVay must know
1:06:45
what he's doing, because he has to have a reason for doing it this way.
1:06:49
Yes, to everyone involved it looked really, really dumb, but Sean McVay's a
1:06:55
genius, so he must know what he's doing."
1:06:59
Adam: Yeah.
1:06:59
Also too, like, while a factor- There was other things that were at play there.
1:07:05
They were, they were completely outcoached.
1:07:08
Like, what, did the plane ride and the late arrival make it so Sean
1:07:12
McVay couldn't have a game plan?
1:07:14
Brandan: Right.
1:07:14
Adam: Couldn't make adjustments.
1:07:15
Benching was low.
1:07:16
Yeah.
1:07:16
But here's the thing, is like they all didn't just sit in their
1:07:19
flying recliners in the sky.
1:07:21
They s- they slept in their flying beds in the sky-… throughout the whole thing.
1:07:25
Like, this excuse about the travel one way or the other for
1:07:29
all the teams, it has to stop.
1:07:31
It has to stop.
1:07:32
I will not have it.
1:07:33
Because at the end of the day, I traveled for my profession for 15 years
1:07:38
and they talk about 10:00 AM starts.
1:07:40
How about having a 4: 00 AM East Coast start and have to do a physical
1:07:44
job, like, that you have to be on point for or you [catfish] die.
1:07:48
Okay?
1:07:48
Like, that's one of the things that I did.
1:07:50
Guess what I did?
1:07:51
Did it.
1:07:52
And
1:07:52
Adam: didn't die.
1:07:53
'Cause you can do it.
1:07:53
And I was way older.
1:07:55
I was even older than Stafford for a, a good amount of this.
1:07:58
Like, this travel excuse needs to go away, but the Rams are gonna
1:08:02
lean heavily on it for sure.
1:08:04
But it shows- But they're not.
1:08:05
Brandan: The, I, I…
1:08:07
McVay wasn't making a deal out of the travel.
1:08:09
And so that's the weird thing about this, is that it, it was almost the
1:08:13
media going, "Well, you know, s- he's not gonna go out and say that it was
1:08:16
the travel," but we all, we all now believe it was the travel because it
1:08:21
was two drastically different approaches that the media can go out and say…
1:08:28
'Cause they are not gonna say, "Well, we are, oh, we were wrong about
1:08:30
the Rams being the super team."
1:08:32
No, they're, they're still the super team, they just…
1:08:34
It was the travel and being unprepared against the Niners to
1:08:38
why they looked as bad as they did.
1:08:41
Adam: Again, I do believe it's a factor, but I think the
1:08:44
overriding part of this is the fact that Aaron wasn't ready to go.
1:08:48
A- Aaron, right?
1:08:50
Mm-hmm.
1:08:50
Like, he, he wasn't there.
1:08:51
And then, Miles Garrett's lower leg, I was gonna say
1:08:56
knee, but I guess we don't know.
1:08:58
His, mis- mysterious lower leg injury that they traded for, you know
1:09:02
damaged goods now has him on the IR, so he's gonna miss at least four weeks.
1:09:07
Brandan: Yeah.
1:09:07
Adam: And the way that Stafford looked, I think that had
1:09:11
to be the most concerning thing.
1:09:12
Because w- I feel like most people, when they penciled in, like, a Super
1:09:17
Bowl for this, super team that they put together as off-season paper
1:09:21
tiger champions, they failed to understand that, like, when you peak
1:09:26
at an MVP season, there's often just natural regression, even if you're
1:09:30
in your prime, let alone if you're 97 years old and have, you know, more
1:09:35
white in your beard than Brandan does.
1:09:37
Like, it's, it's unbelievable.
1:09:39
Like, so his regression, or at least seeming regression, in
1:09:45
week one, I think that's a…
1:09:46
That should be a major red flag for the Lambs going forward.
1:09:51
Brandan: I f- as far as Stafford goes, I would give that a couple
1:09:56
weeks, because there's some…
1:09:58
Half the quarterbacks in the league didn't look quite ready week one, and so I, I'm
1:10:06
I'm kinda willing to wait and hold off on
1:10:08
Adam: that.
1:10:08
Record amount of points?
1:10:10
Brandan: Yeah.
1:10:12
It just…
1:10:13
I, I'm more concerned about this.
1:10:14
Miles Garrett going to injured reserve.
1:10:18
Does…
1:10:18
Like, four weeks, how does that factor into things for the Rams?
1:10:23
Because that was, that was the scary point of this Rams defense.
1:10:28
Yeah, okay- Mm-hmm… they, they, they upgraded the corners and, But
1:10:32
Adam: did they after that game?
1:10:35
Brandan: You, you wonder.
1:10:35
Yeah.
1:10:36
Because that's…
1:10:37
I- if you aren't generating the type of pass rush that you thought you were going
1:10:42
to get with that combination of Aaron Donald and Miles Garrett, at this point
1:10:49
if Aaron Donald wasn't ready to go week one, if Miles Garrett is now out for
1:10:54
four weeks, do you just push this back and say, "Hey, we're, we're gonna
1:11:00
get this defense rolling in a couple weeks when both these guys are ready"?
1:11:04
But then you're talking about now you're going to face off against
1:11:08
a New York Giants team that looked pretty good in week one.
1:11:12
Adam: Dude, Giants played some bully ball, the other
1:11:16
night against the Cowboys, man.
1:11:18
Like-
1:11:18
Brandan: Yeah
1:11:18
… Adam: they jellied it right down the Cowboys' throat.
1:11:21
Like, there was no lube, no nothing.
1:11:23
Like, you know, extra lineman, they had Ricard in there all the time, the
1:11:28
the big fullback, and Skattebo, and they just pounded the bejesus out of them.
1:11:33
can this Rams defensive line hold up to that, even with, 35-year-old
1:11:39
Aaron Donald possibly back for that game?
1:11:42
Maybe he's not.
1:11:42
It's hard telling not knowing.
1:11:44
But, I think Garrett looked terrible in the last game.
1:11:50
I mean, he couldn't do nothing against, again, ancient Trent Williams.
1:11:55
Brandan: Yeah.
1:11:55
Adam: Like, that, that's gotta be- Well
1:11:57
Brandan: there, there was the narrative, well, oh, Trent Williams
1:12:00
is the greatest left tackle to ever play left tackle, and so that was-
1:12:04
Adam: Well, he didn't meet Walter Jones, but that's fine.
1:12:06
yeah.
1:12:07
Brandan: I think that was before Miles Garrett also went to IR and
1:12:10
that injury was announced, but…
1:12:12
Adam: Yeah.
1:12:12
But terrible game.
1:12:14
They got out-physicaled, they got out-coached, they got out-hustled, they
1:12:17
got out-thought, they got out everything.
1:12:21
And- It was at the hands of the 49ers, which can be annoying when you first
1:12:26
look at it and be like, "Ah, it stinks to see the Niners do good," right?
1:12:29
Yeah.
1:12:30
Right out of the gate.
1:12:31
I know.
1:12:31
But here's the thing, here's the thing.
1:12:33
This is what's awesome about this.
1:12:35
remember when we played the Niners in week 18, and it was 13
1:12:39
to three, and they all acted like that that was actually a close game?
1:12:42
Remember that?
1:12:42
Uh-huh.
1:12:42
And their whole offense was healthy for the most part.
1:12:46
Brandan: For the most part.
1:12:46
Adam: Like, all they were missing was Purce,l- Right… which
1:12:49
they're still missing.
1:12:50
Eh.
1:12:50
Yeah.
1:12:52
I remember that.
1:12:52
I remember when they got molly whomped in the, playoffs, really only
1:12:57
missing Kittle on offense, right?
1:13:00
Brandan: Mm-hmm.
1:13:00
Adam: And, yeah, sure, he's back, and that's nice.
1:13:04
That's cute.
1:13:05
I love this false sense of confidence because the Niners, when
1:13:09
they came into that week 18 game, number one offense in the league
1:13:12
and they're gonna take the number one seed and, like, they did all this, you
1:13:16
know, with their defense in shambles and Houdini, Han, whatever, right?
1:13:20
And then the Seahawks said, "That's hilarious," and then
1:13:22
beat the tar out of them, right?
1:13:24
They strangled them.
1:13:26
I can't wait for the Niners to be riding high again.
1:13:29
"Well, we beat the Rams week one, and look what we did
1:13:31
against all these other teams."
1:13:33
And along comes the world champs, and we just snuff the life out of them again.
1:13:38
Like, that's gonna make that week one loss of the Rams feel good, and it's
1:13:41
gonna feel so awesome when we do it to the Niners in a few weeks here.
1:13:46
It…
1:13:46
I love it.
1:13:47
I love it.
1:13:47
Let's give them a little false confidence for a couple weeks.
1:13:50
A little false confidence- And you know
1:13:51
Brandan: they-… is good
1:13:51
… Adam: yeah.
1:13:52
Brandan: Yeah.
1:13:52
Adam: Yeah.
1:13:53
Brandan: The-
1:13:54
Adam: And they'll probably be half injured by then, you know?
1:13:56
Brandan: Yeah, I mean, if history is any indicator, it's…
1:13:59
Gosh, Stribling couldn't even make it through week one against the Rams.
1:14:04
Adam: Who?
1:14:05
Brandan: Yeah.
1:14:05
Well
1:14:05
Adam: he's- He's gotta do something in the league first before I believe that
1:14:08
that's somebody I need to be afraid of.
1:14:10
Brandan: Yeah.
1:14:11
He was a high draft pick.
1:14:12
They seem to like him.
1:14:13
Adam: He needs to do something in the league first.
1:14:15
He had
1:14:15
Brandan: a nice pre-season.
1:14:17
Adam: He needs to do something in the league, you know?
1:14:20
Yeah.
1:14:20
Sure.
1:14:21
I mean, Mike Evans had the touchdown.
1:14:23
That was nice.
1:14:23
I mean-
1:14:23
Brandan: Mike Evans had a legit game.
1:14:26
Adam: Yeah.
1:14:26
Week one.
1:14:27
I mean, we'll see how long his hamstring's hold out.
1:14:29
Brandan: Sure.
1:14:30
Adam: Yeah
1:14:32
Brandan: So that was the other nice part about…
1:14:35
Because we talked about it in the first half, nice part
1:14:38
about the Cardinals winning.
1:14:39
Our Seahawks definitely gonna take them seriously.
1:14:42
The only other nice part is that now the Rams are last place in the division.
1:14:46
Adam: And they could be there for a couple weeks.
1:14:48
Well- I see a path for the Giants to win that football game.
1:14:52
Brandan: I wasn't so sure about it, looking at the
1:14:55
schedule going into the season.
1:14:57
But based off of the way they played against the Cowboys
1:15:01
they, they could beat the Rams.
1:15:03
Adam: They very well could.
1:15:04
Brandan: It, it's in play.
1:15:05
Adam: They very well could.
1:15:07
it's gonna be fun.
1:15:09
Gonna be fun to watch.
1:15:10
And, yeah, a bunch of Ls for the rest of the NFC West this week.
1:15:15
That'd be, that'd be amazing.
1:15:16
Brandan: Yeah, who do the Niners play this week?
1:15:19
Adam: I don't know.
1:15:20
I, I, I can't say that I follow the Niners schedule in
1:15:23
every single game week to week.
1:15:25
I
1:15:25
Brandan: know who the Cardinals play.
1:15:26
I know who the Rams play.
1:15:28
Right.
1:15:28
yeah.
1:15:28
We have producers in chat who are able to look it up for us, or just
1:15:33
let us know who the Niners play.
1:15:35
Adam: Yeah.
1:15:35
Brandan: But, that is the, the one team that…
1:15:39
I, I don't know who I'm rooting for this week, apart from the Giants.
1:15:44
Like Nate's saying, go Giants.
1:15:47
Adam: I don't know, just whoever's playing them.
1:15:48
That's all I need to know.
1:15:49
Brandan: Right.
1:15:50
Adam: Yeah.
1:15:50
I could, I can muster the sports hate from there.
1:15:54
Brandan: I, I, just on, on short, s- notice.
1:15:57
Yeah.
1:15:57
Oh, no.
1:15:59
Adam, can you be a Dolphins fan this week?
1:16:01
Adam: I can't.
1:16:02
I can't muster the hate.
1:16:04
I can't.
1:16:06
God, I hate Dolphins franchises so
1:16:06
Brandan: much.
1:16:06
Oh, that was the worst answer.
1:16:08
Thanks for nothing, Yokai Hawk.
1:16:11
Adam: Yeah, yeah, it's all your fault, Yokai, for
1:16:13
scheduling that game.
1:16:15
Yeah.
1:16:16
GR double gross, God.
1:16:18
Brandan: Yeah.
1:16:19
Yeah.
1:16:19
And then they have the Cardinals the week after that.
1:16:23
Adam: Yeah, well, Cardinals will be fired up, and angry
1:16:27
after losing to the Seahawks badly.
1:16:29
They're gonna have to come out and show they're not, pretenders.
1:16:33
Brandan: Dolphins not the worst team in the league, we discovered this weekend.
1:16:36
Adam: Hmm.
1:16:37
Brandan: did you watch any of the Browns game?
1:16:41
Adam: No, I have dignity.
1:16:42
Brandan: Yeah.
1:16:43
Yeah.
1:16:43
The, the Browns were easily the worst team in that-
1:16:45
Adam: Actually, I did, I did watch the, like, NFL package
1:16:48
highlights, like the 15-minute variety.
1:16:50
Yeah.
1:16:51
Brandan: Uh-huh.
1:16:51
Adam: Just because there's…
1:16:53
I am not somebody that revels, like, legitimately in, like, individual failure
1:16:59
of these professional athletes.
1:17:01
Brandan: Yeah.
1:17:02
Adam: But, I'll tell you what, I love watching Deshaun Watson
1:17:06
go out there and look like ass.
1:17:08
Like, it, it is the most satisfying thing in the world.
1:17:11
I hope he falls on his face every single game.
1:17:13
Those six interceptions couldn't happen to a nicer human.
1:17:16
Like, congratulations on your suckage, Deshaun.
1:17:19
Like, you, you, you, you, you earned it.
1:17:21
Brandan: I don't even know if he was the, the most suckage
1:17:25
on the, on the team though.
1:17:26
That defense.
1:17:28
Where's the Browns defense?
1:17:30
Adam: Oh, I don't know.
1:17:30
I fast-forwarded through that part, 'cause I just wanted to watch Watson suck.
1:17:34
Sure.
1:17:34
Yeah.
1:17:35
He, he, he deserves every minute of it.
1:17:38
Brandan: Yeah.
1:17:38
And I, I figured that maybe, maybe that's where you're
1:17:42
going, and, that tracks.
1:17:44
Adam: Yeah.
1:17:45
Brandan: Well, we have a group of executive producers that, we love
1:17:49
to cheer for, and that is our group of, donors that support us each
1:17:55
and every week, starting with DCH, Doug Chancel Harry; Ryan Peterson
1:18:01
our YouTube live executive producer, who we haven't seen tonight; Lisa
1:18:05
Carlson; Dave Bloomquist; James Stradley.
1:18:09
Adam, I think that's James's last name, right?
1:18:13
Adam: No.
1:18:13
No.
1:18:14
Brandan: No?
1:18:14
Adam: It's, it's Gertz.
1:18:15
Yeah.
1:18:15
Brandan: Oh, James Gertz.
1:18:16
Okay.
1:18:17
We had a Stradley in the comments, and I thought that was
1:18:19
Adam: Yeah.
1:18:20
No.
1:18:21
Brandan: Okay.
1:18:21
So- No
1:18:21
Adam: we get…
1:18:21
We just call him Neighbor James.
1:18:23
Brandan: Neighbor James-
1:18:24
Adam: Yeah
1:18:24
… Brandan: and Brian Shaw We got the, we got the one-
1:18:28
Adam: We've got, we've got a lot of management.
1:18:29
Yeah.
1:18:30
We got a lot of
1:18:30
Brandan: management.
1:18:30
I know.
1:18:31
Adam: That's good.
1:18:32
Brandan: We got the 1,212.12
1:18:34
from James.
1:18:36
we mentioned that on the, the live after the show.
1:18:39
Yeah, we
1:18:39
Adam: should, we should mention that again.
1:18:40
Yeah, yeah.
1:18:41
James, stepped up with the 1212.12.
1:18:44
Yeah… yeah.
1:18:45
And that was all in one number, so like the decimal is way back there, you know?
1:18:49
And, just awesome, man.
1:18:51
We appreciate it a ton.
1:18:53
It was awesome having him along for the last trip.
1:18:55
Brandan: That's why I had to make him executive producer.
1:18:57
Adam: Oh, yeah.
1:18:58
Yeah.
1:19:00
Brandan: Candice Fulton also came in at $60 at- Dang… getintheflock.com
1:19:05
so five bucks a month for the year.
1:19:07
Kyle Johnson, a donation of $25 via PayPal at seahawkspodcast.com.
1:19:14
Hell yeah.
1:19:14
And, Kyle says, "Starting the season out with good hawk ra.
1:19:19
Go Hawks."
1:19:20
Go Hawks, Kyle.
1:19:21
Adam: Go Hawks, Kyle.
1:19:22
You ain't wrong, man.
1:19:23
You started the season out with good hawker and the team fed off of it
1:19:26
and now we're all basking in, defending a championship type hawk ra.
1:19:30
And, I think we're killing it.
1:19:32
Brandan: Got Brian Shaw back in with $112.12
1:19:37
via Zelle.
1:19:38
Adam: Man.
1:19:39
Brandan: And, Steven Kirkpatrick came in, Adam, with
1:19:42
the score donation of 13.10.
1:19:45
Adam: Man, you can set your watch to just only a few things in this
1:19:48
world, and Steven is one of them.
1:19:50
that's awesome, dude.
1:19:51
We always appreciate you, bud.
1:19:53
Thank you so much.
1:19:55
Brandan: We got Shane Turner Acoustic, who came in live via
1:19:58
YouTube, saying, "Hey, guys.
1:19:59
Actually made it for a live again.
1:20:01
Let's go smash the cards this week."
1:20:04
Yeah.
1:20:04
"Can't wait to see more price and hopefully some Diggs at quarterback."
1:20:09
Adam: He probably meant, corner, back there.
1:20:12
thinking of Trevon there.
1:20:14
And would you, after the Pritchett performance, are you itching to see
1:20:20
Trevon Diggs back there instead of Dami?
1:20:24
Brandan: Pritchett- I'm not sure I am… Pritchett played
1:20:27
very solid for a week one.
1:20:30
I'm- Just damn
1:20:30
Adam: good football game.
1:20:32
Brandan: I'm, I am kind of excited, and I think that, like I said, a- apart from
1:20:37
maybe Wilson, you know, just 'cause he's a little bit shiftier, I, I think he could
1:20:44
end up with some catches on Pritchett.
1:20:46
But I, I think that he could…
1:20:48
Pritchett could lock down Harrison.
1:20:49
I'm not even concerned.
1:20:51
Adam: Yeah.
1:20:52
And, Michael W- I just, I don't get it.
1:20:56
I don't understand the, i- at all, the fear of Michael Wilson doing anything
1:21:00
Brandan: other than- It's not a fear of Michael Wilson, it's just that he's
1:21:03
going to finish the game with five catches- Well-… 60 yards, and they're
1:21:08
probably all gonna come against Pritchett
1:21:12
Adam: maybe against…
1:21:13
I, I was gonna go, like, four for 40.
1:21:15
I, I feel like that feels about right.
1:21:16
Either stat line there is, delightfully meh.
1:21:21
Like-
1:21:21
Brandan: Right
1:21:22
Adam: Yeah.
1:21:22
Brandan: But I, you know what I like is zero catches for zero yards.
1:21:26
Adam: Well, we all would like that, but the world isn't perfection now, is it?
1:21:31
Brandan: Yeah, Yokai Hawk coming in live with 2,000 yen.
1:21:34
Prediction, two wins, zero losses, zero ties, zero points for the
1:21:39
Short Breaks, for the Short Beaks.
1:21:41
Adam: Dude, appreciate that.
1:21:43
yeah, man, two wins.
1:21:45
Let's go.
1:21:45
I like the prediction a lot.
1:21:47
I'm hoping, you know, that, that yen hasn't cratered out.
1:21:51
Like, I heard it wasn't doing good there for a minute, and we had
1:21:54
to, like, try to bail it out, right?
1:21:56
Brandan: I have no idea.
1:21:57
I d- I keep track of, like, zero things that aren't football and work.
1:22:01
Adam: Oh, okay.
1:22:01
Well, yeah.
1:22:02
Apparently, apparently the, you know, the yen is having a
1:22:05
a tough time right now, so…
1:22:08
Brandan: getintheflock.com
1:22:09
if you wanna help support the show.
1:22:11
You can also go to seahawkerspodcast.com
1:22:14
and click the donate button if you wanna donate via Zelle
1:22:18
at Hawkra or, Cash App.
1:22:21
All kinds of ways to help support the show, and we appreciate it because, yeah
1:22:27
we get to do cool things like go out and, visit with the Flockers, Adam.
1:22:32
We, we got to meet a couple people.
1:22:34
also should mention a couple YouTube members, Yosa Mom
1:22:38
Christopher McSwain coming in via YouTube, so- Hell yeah, man
1:22:41
appreciate everybody coming in here this past week.
1:22:44
Adam: Dude, big week.
1:22:45
we're all fired up, man, to run this thing forward, and I'm, I'm so stoked
1:22:49
to have y'all with us 'cause this is, this is gonna be a season to remember.
1:22:53
I, I guarantee it
1:22:55
Brandan: All right.
1:22:56
What do you say we get into some Do Better-… and Better at Life?
1:23:01
Adam: Yeah, absolutely.
1:23:01
I love Yo Kai's, comment here.
1:23:03
"This is hilarious.
1:23:04
Adam, I have no paycheck.
1:23:05
I can't afford a deflation multiplier."
1:23:07
Understood.
1:23:08
Yeah, we're, we're all feeling it, bud.
1:23:10
Yeah.
1:23:10
No doubt.
1:23:10
Brandan: Absolutely.
1:23:11
Adam: Yeah.
1:23:12
Brandan: All right.
1:23:13
My Do Better this week is for all of the, I don't know, I guess we could
1:23:19
say Seahawks fans coming out, and one of the worst things that I think could
1:23:23
happen in our, among our fans, Adam, is Kenneth Walker coming out and
1:23:29
having a really good game against the Chiefs because it's reignited all these
1:23:34
feelings of, "I wanted to keep K9.
1:23:37
I thought he would've been the better guy.
1:23:38
Oh, but we have to manage the salary cap."
1:23:40
So- Mm… it, it's, it, the, these conversations that we had six months
1:23:44
ago rising to the top because K9 comes out and runs for, what was it?
1:23:49
Like 26, 27 carries and almost 200 yards, two touchdowns.
1:23:55
Like, the dude had a great game, and I'm genuinely happy for K9.
1:24:00
I, I…
1:24:01
And selfishly, yeah, I, I would want Kenneth Walker on this team, but y-
1:24:06
this is, these are all things that we have discussed in the off-season.
1:24:10
Like, we, we, we have staked our claim on this argument already, and
1:24:15
we've moved on from it because this is a, a long-term play by our GM.
1:24:20
And this is, y- you, you wanna move on from running backs before it's too late.
1:24:27
And while I hope that K9 goes on and has an awesome career, I'm just…
1:24:32
I'm, I'm a little bit upset that it's brought this to the surface, and now
1:24:37
one Monday night game a- and we're back at the arguments that we had all off-season.
1:24:41
And for that, do better.
1:24:44
Adam: I hear you, man.
1:24:44
I mean, A, week one, week one's weird.
1:24:47
B, it's one week.
1:24:49
You know, if you just flip the two words and then it's
1:24:51
you know, a little different.
1:24:52
Like, let's not make any conclusions yet.
1:24:55
also too, like, good for K9, you know?
1:24:58
It, we still all love K9, for sure.
1:25:01
helped bring us our second Super Bowl trophy, and, and all of that.
1:25:05
But, like, multiple things can be true at once, right?
1:25:08
Like- Right… the decision to move off K9 and not pay him and manage the
1:25:11
cap that way can be a good decision.
1:25:14
The Chiefs picking him up and, using him appropriately, like
1:25:18
that can be a good decision or, you know, a good thing and true.
1:25:22
Like, the idea that the- K9's gonna have a nice year, that can be true.
1:25:27
It can be true that we hit on our first round draft pick in Jadarian
1:25:30
Price, and, like, that worked out well.
1:25:32
It can be true that Jadarian had a really nice, opening weekend, right?
1:25:36
So it, I, I feel like that conversation that you're talking about here is
1:25:41
probably more appro- appropriately made, after we play the Chiefs in Lumen.
1:25:46
I think that, that's a time where you can do that.
1:25:48
Mm.
1:25:49
And then the next time will be in the off-season.
1:25:53
Brandan: It does feel…
1:25:53
It, and that's, I think, what it is to me.
1:25:55
It, it feels like a, a almost a two-year discussion because, you
1:26:02
know, what will the Chiefs have accomplished after two years?
1:26:06
Papa Ted in chat saying Andy Reid will run him till the tires blow.
1:26:10
I hope not.
1:26:10
I, I hope
1:26:11
Adam: that- I don't know.
1:26:13
Brandan: He
1:26:13
Adam: looked really
1:26:14
Brandan: good.
1:26:14
Adam: I, I mean, tell me, tell me which running back Andy
1:26:16
Reid has run into the ground.
1:26:17
Like, the Andy Reid story is, is that he forgets that running is a thing.
1:26:22
Brandan: Yeah.
1:26:23
Well, Papa Said did that with every back.
1:26:24
I, I don't know.
1:26:27
Adam: You're talking about, like, Brian Westbrook?
1:26:28
Brandan: I, w- with Shady McCoy?
1:26:30
Like, I don't know if he ran him
1:26:32
Adam: into the- Well, Shady had good years in Buffalo.
1:26:33
Brandan: Yeah.
1:26:34
Adam: Yeah.
1:26:36
Brandan: I don't know.
1:26:36
I, I just…
1:26:37
I hope that both running backs end up being awesome, and it just ends up being
1:26:41
the right decision in terms of salary cap.
1:26:44
And yeah, that's
1:26:48
Adam: Yeah.
1:26:48
L- DeSean was a- DeSean Jackson
1:26:49
a, a, a receiver, though, so.
1:26:53
Brandan: yeah, I, I think that…
1:26:56
I, I, I hope it works out for everybody because I do-
1:27:00
Adam: And it can, right?
1:27:02
… love Kane.
1:27:02
Yeah, absolutely.
1:27:03
It's on the board.
1:27:04
All right, man, you know what's on the board for me for my Do Better This Week?
1:27:07
It's my favorite publication that I love to freaking hate.
1:27:10
Brandan: Oh
1:27:10
Adam: no.
1:27:11
It's once again 12th Man Rising.
1:27:13
Brandan: And look- Are they trying to trade Jalen Milroe?
1:27:16
Adam: No, we're off that.
1:27:17
We're off that.
1:27:17
We're, now we're, now we're into writing counterdictory, contradictory
1:27:23
main headlines with secondary headlines.
1:27:26
And then, on a nonsense topic that doesn't even matter.
1:27:30
The title of the article, "Seahawks Should Already Regret Their Gratuitous
1:27:34
si- Signing of Dante Fowler Jr."
1:27:37
Brandan: Oh.
1:27:38
Adam: Sub-headline, "He Did Play Well Though."
1:27:43
Seahawks regret it, he played well.
1:27:45
Okay, let's get into the meat of the article here a little bit.
1:27:48
After losing Boye Mafe…
1:27:50
Here's another thing that I can't stand about the national
1:27:52
narrative about this team.
1:27:53
They all act like Boye Mafe was our number one pass rusher, not
1:27:57
our fourth best pass rusher, right?
1:27:59
Brandan: Right.
1:27:59
Adam: Like, Bengals wildly overpaid for the guy, and then…
1:28:04
No, it, I've looked into some of these, 12th Man R- Rising Charlie
1:28:09
writers, and they're real people.
1:28:12
Maybe they're using AI, but they're real human beings, from what I can tell.
1:28:16
And he goes into this, he's like, "Well, he only played 16
1:28:20
snaps, and they paid him 2.5
1:28:22
million," this Dante Fowler.
1:28:24
Oh.
1:28:25
Oh my stars.
1:28:25
Oh, no.
1:28:26
That's a cup of coffee in the NFL.
1:28:29
What the hell are we talking about?
1:28:30
And he didn't have an impact.
1:28:30
They could, they could've
1:28:31
Brandan: paid K9 for three games for that money.
1:28:36
Adam: Yeah, exactly.
1:28:37
And then, like, well, he did have, like, one impactful play.
1:28:40
Well, okay, that's all the more that B- Boye Mafe had any given
1:28:44
game over the last couple years.
1:28:46
This is so stupid.
1:28:47
Like, we're trying to pick a nit about the fourth pass rusher that barely
1:28:51
plays because he's the fourth pass rusher replacing our fourth pass rusher.
1:28:57
Like, I'm so sick of this.
1:28:59
These guys are idiots.
1:29:00
I can't stand this publication.
1:29:02
They should just fold up shop now.
1:29:04
12th Man Rising and, Ernesto Cova, who, I don't know, maybe he is fake.
1:29:10
Ernesto, do better.
1:29:13
Brandan: I, the only thing that I don't like about this is these dudes
1:29:16
have to be Seahawks fans, right?
1:29:17
To, to write for 12th Man Rising.
1:29:19
I, I don't like- Maybe… going after our own fans.
1:29:23
Adam: I don't know that they are.
1:29:25
People could hire me to write for the Niners.
1:29:27
I'd write bangers for them.
1:29:29
That's true.
1:29:29
They'd sound a lot more like Grant Cohen's, commentary
1:29:31
than anybody else, but yeah.
1:29:33
Brandan: Yeah, I, I think I'd pay money for that.
1:29:35
Do, can, can we make that happen?
1:29:37
Adam: Please.
1:29:38
Let's go.
1:29:39
Yeah.
1:29:39
I'll write, I'll write hate mail to the, the Faithful.
1:29:43
Like, that sounds good.
1:29:44
Brandan: Yeah.
1:29:45
I…
1:29:46
You know who did have a good game though?
1:29:47
Boye Mafe did have a pretty good game for the Bengals this week.
1:29:52
Sweet.
1:29:52
Another guy I'm happy for.
1:29:53
Yeah.
1:29:53
But also, I can be happy that we didn't pay $20 million to keep him.
1:29:57
Adam: That would've been insanity.
1:29:59
Brandan: Yeah.
1:29:59
I would see if…
1:30:01
I would've…
1:30:01
If, if we had kept Mafe and then seen the game that K9 had, then I would probably
1:30:06
be a little bit more disappointed.
1:30:09
Adam: Yeah, maybe.
1:30:10
Maybe.
1:30:10
But we won.
1:30:11
Patriots are still sad.
1:30:13
We're still current champs.
1:30:14
All is right in the world.
1:30:16
Brandan: Well, speaking of everything being right in the world, Adam, my better
1:30:20
at life this week, all the Flockers that we got to hang out with and meet
1:30:24
up with out in Seattle for opening week.
1:30:28
Getting to see the banner unveiled with guys like Jason Bonner, to Nick Hathaway
1:30:34
and Andrew Thackaberry, Tim Schmidt.
1:30:37
Josh Height was there.
1:30:38
Josh DeHooman in the Discord, you know him there.
1:30:41
Nick, who's in chat right now too, I believe.
1:30:45
Michael Paul.
1:30:46
oh, w- there were two Nicks.
1:30:48
There was Nick Hathaway and n- Nick Springer.
1:30:51
That's right.
1:30:51
we, Joshua Rhodes, Gary Blum made the trip over from New York
1:30:55
and we got to hang out with him.
1:30:56
That's funny.
1:30:56
Mark Flynn was there.
1:30:58
Nate Sheets.
1:30:59
Nate I saw in chat earlier.
1:31:02
Jake Burdine was there.
1:31:03
So a big group of Flockers, and, we had a good time too celebrating
1:31:10
Lisa and Greg's anniversary at, 13 Coins the night before.
1:31:15
just an all around good time.
1:31:17
I always enjoy spending time with, folks who listen to
1:31:21
the show, 'cause they're awesome.
1:31:23
And, to, to all of you who showed up, better at life than Skip Bayless.
1:31:27
Adam: This is how much all of you little Flockers
1:31:29
like, made Brandan and I's day.
1:31:32
w- for all of you that showed up, all of you that, like, listen to
1:31:35
the show and write in and everything.
1:31:36
But all the folks that we got to hang out with, and whether that was with our
1:31:40
good friend, Tracy Williams, for the, for the tailgate and all of that.
1:31:44
my better at life was gonna be the Flockers too, so now I'm gonna pivot.
1:31:47
Oh.
1:31:48
I gotta pivot, gotta pivot fast.
1:31:49
Brandan: We added Tracy to it, so the, you know, giving Tracy her own
1:31:52
better at life is fine too, 'cause that- Well-… that was a kick-ass tailgate.
1:31:56
Adam: It was a kick-ass tailgate.
1:31:57
Kick-ass spot.
1:31:58
Kick-a-… Just always.
1:31:59
she's the best.
1:32:00
She
1:32:01
Brandan: on the fly moved.
1:32:02
Like, we… It was supposed to be in a parking lot that was, like, three
1:32:06
blocks to the north, and then, like, she texts me, cool and calm.
1:32:11
Before, she's like, "Oh, we're gonna have to move."
1:32:13
Okay.
1:32:13
Yeah.
1:32:13
So then we ended up moving to another lot, which hopefully didn't im- I, I
1:32:17
think it did impact some people being able to make it, which was kind of a bummer.
1:32:21
Because they showed up to the, the spot that we had already planned
1:32:24
and maybe didn't get the message- Oh, no… of, of the new spot.
1:32:27
So, but, you know, things out of our control.
1:32:30
Adam: Yeah.
1:32:31
It was a, a angry Karen boss, that apparently got his little
1:32:35
panties in a twist or, or something.
1:32:36
So yeah, so
1:32:38
Brandan: Tracy's like- I think it was a Niner fan, actually, just
1:32:39
trying to make life hard on Tracy.
1:32:41
Yeah.
1:32:41
Adam: That, that, that, that tracks right there.
1:32:43
So basically, all I'm gonna do here with my better at life, Brandan, is I'm just
1:32:46
gonna expand it to the Twelves, man.
1:32:48
Just even all of you that are… Amy, you're always better at life.
1:32:52
Don't, don't do that to yourself.
1:32:54
Brandan: You're- Just because Amy didn't make it.
1:32:56
you know, she, she tried, and Adam's now including you- How many other-
1:32:59
in this, the group of the rest of the Twelves.
1:33:02
Adam: Yeah, and how many other times has Amy made it?
1:33:03
Like, all-
1:33:04
Brandan: Every time.
1:33:04
Adam: Yeah, exactly.
1:33:06
No, I will not accept… don't accept your, resignation
1:33:10
and, not better at life nomination.
1:33:12
I will not take it.
1:33:13
So I'm just gonna expand this all the way to all the 12s, man.
1:33:16
Like, look, when we got to the stadium and it filled in earlier than usual
1:33:23
or at least it felt like to me.
1:33:24
I- Oh, yeah
1:33:25
Brandan: it was packed for the banner unveiling.
1:33:27
Adam: Oh my- Packed… God.
1:33:28
And it was [catfish] electric, and it was you guys.
1:33:33
It was you guys.
1:33:34
Like, the energy in the stadium as Cam got up there.
1:33:38
G did a nice job, you know, doing his thing in bringing Cam up
1:33:42
on stage, and getting ready for the, the banner to be unveiled.
1:33:46
I was really excited to, like, film that so, I could have that as a memory
1:33:51
forever, and I don't do that very often.
1:33:53
missed it, 'cause it happened in a heartbeat.
1:33:56
Thank God Brandan got it.
1:33:57
I kept- I got your back… asking for the, for the video, but
1:33:59
that, I'm gonna need that, bud.
1:34:00
So just letting you know now.
1:34:02
But, man, Sherm raising the flag, the F-15 screeching over our heads
1:34:07
and the banking out of the stadium.
1:34:09
Oh my God, it was unbelievable.
1:34:13
And then throughout the game as we saw Sam get hurt and, like
1:34:16
there was some adversity and all that, and we can watch the team and
1:34:19
their resilience start to kick in.
1:34:21
And kinda needing that energy in the 12s with their championship mentality
1:34:25
and their resilience really bringing the energy and, like, ramping things up.
1:34:30
By the time that game ended, man, if there had been a roof on Lumen, it'd be gone.
1:34:35
Like, they would've blown it straight off.
1:34:37
You 12s are amazing.
1:34:39
What an amazing place to be with the best fan base in the world, to celebrate
1:34:45
the beginning of running it forward.
1:34:47
You guys are [catfish] fantastic.
1:34:50
Every 12 that was there, every 12 yelling at their TV throughout the, the game
1:34:54
you are better at life than Skip Bayless.
1:34:58
Brandan: I'm just happy, Adam, that six days out, you, you've recovered.
1:35:03
You, you sound like your normal self again.
1:35:05
Dude.
1:35:05
Because you sounded like a different person, the week or the day after
1:35:09
the game, the evening after the game.
1:35:11
And, yeah, I, I, we're back.
1:35:14
I, I feel it.
1:35:15
Adam: It…
1:35:16
Look, man, when we're at the stadium, you have one job.
1:35:19
You have one job.
1:35:20
And that is to start making noise, and I'm gonna make a point of this
1:35:24
all year, Jake, 'cause I'm trying to get this message out to as many
1:35:27
people in the stadium as possible.
1:35:30
If you have to save yourself for third down, I, I…
1:35:32
That's fine.
1:35:33
But if you, you can leave it all out on the field as a fan.
1:35:36
Start on first down, but every time you start making noise, it's when
1:35:40
the quarterback gets into the huddle.
1:35:42
That's where you can affect it the most.
1:35:44
Brandan: Yeah.
1:35:44
Adam: Right?
1:35:45
And really, I thought the 12s did a banger job at that throughout the thing.
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And yeah, man, I left it all out on the field.
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I sounded like, I, I was back at about 13 years old and
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all squeaky there for a couple days, but man, it was worth it.
1:36:00
Brandan: Look, if I had known that it was going to be that intense in the fourth
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quarter, I, I think I would've taken some plays off earlier on in the game
1:36:09
just to save myself, because it was all I could do to leave it all out there at the
1:36:13
stadium, toward the end of the game.
1:36:16
Adam: It's not like you weren't, you know, not the same, sultry
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baritone that you are, normally after that game, 'cause you weren't.
1:36:24
You weren't that guy anymore.
1:36:25
Brandan: I wasn't, no.
1:36:25
For
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Adam: a couple days.
1:36:26
Brandan: Yeah.
1:36:26
No.
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But it's fine.
1:36:27
I had a great time.
1:36:29
Charlie the Unicorns, they had F-15s.
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They're from Oregon National Guard, here to entertain you.
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They were awesome.
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Adam: They nailed it.
1:36:36
They nailed it.
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Yeah, man.
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And man, when those things rip overhead, overhead, oh my God.
1:36:42
Oh, it was cool, man.
1:36:43
I, but I, I'm a nerd for, you know, Air Force, so.
1:36:46
Brandan: You're a nerd for space.
1:36:47
You're a nerd for airplanes.
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You're
1:36:50
- Adam: Yeah, I'm a nerd for birds… all
1:36:50
Brandan: the nerd
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Adam: things.
1:36:51
Yeah.
1:36:51
Yeah, exactly.
1:36:52
Just put it in the air, I'm pretty excited about it.
1:36:54
Hot air balloons are sweet.
1:36:55
Yeah.
1:36:55
Brandan: One-handed Cooper Kupp catches, you're here for that, too.
1:36:59
Adam: I am, yeah.
1:37:01
And, you know, a, a lot of golf buffs- Just
1:37:03
Brandan: trying to th- come up with things that were in the
1:37:05
air and that, that came to mind.
1:37:07
Adam: That's right.
1:37:07
Drake Maye's, legacy, it was up in the air.
1:37:11
It came crashing down, I applauded.
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yeah.
1:37:15
It was cool.
1:37:16
Brandan: Great showing.
1:37:17
appreciate all the 12s.
1:37:19
Amy says, "OMG," and, "Shut the F up on offense."
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there…
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I thought that it was pretty good.
1:37:25
There, there were a few chants.
1:37:26
I don't think it impacted, it too much, but yeah.
1:37:30
I, I think you just have…
1:37:32
You know, we just need people like you, Amy, to coach people up in
1:37:35
in the stands and say, you know…
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And y- maybe the gentle type of coaching like, "Hey, you know
1:37:40
maybe this is your first game, but we need to be cool on offense."
1:37:43
We- Yeah… when our team's out there on offense, we gotta, we gotta be chill.
1:37:47
Adam: There was a few folks, you know, more than I, I would
1:37:50
imagine that the offense would like, that, you know, like a
1:37:53
fourth and two or whatever it was.
1:37:55
And you're just excited, you know?
1:37:57
So, like, I can get, like, that you're, you're getting
1:38:00
loud and you're just excited.
1:38:01
But, like, just a little situational awareness.
1:38:03
It's all we need there, you know?
1:38:05
And, they'll come along.
1:38:07
They'll come along.
1:38:08
And it…
1:38:08
You know what?
1:38:09
Maybe it's some of the newer fans, too, and if that's the case, no worries
1:38:12
we'll hold your hand, we'll point you through the right direction, and
1:38:14
you're gonna be 12-ing like a boss, you know, after we lift our second
1:38:18
Lombardi here in just,- Oh
1:38:19
Brandan: that's a good point
1:38:20
a few months… because yes, w- we did…
1:38:22
It's very possible that we gained some new fans in the off-season, because they
1:38:27
saw what we did, winnin' the Super Bowl.
1:38:29
They saw us through the off-season kickin' butt, and then we go on
1:38:34
Hard Knocks lookin' awesome and we got people goin', "You know what?
1:38:38
I, I think I'm a Seahawks fan now, and now I'm gonna go to
1:38:40
games, and now I'm gonna cheer.
1:38:42
I, I may not know the right time to cheer, but I, I know that 12s are
1:38:45
loud, and so I'm gonna be loud."
1:38:47
Adam: That's right.
1:38:48
And you know, if, if, if there's somebody that's a little, off on
1:38:51
their situational awareness there, we don't have to be mean about it, right?
1:38:54
Like, we can just be like, "Hey, man," like, "Save yourself."
1:38:57
Like, this is a time they need a little quiet.
1:38:58
But we're all good, bud.
1:39:00
Brandan: Yeah.
1:39:00
We're gonna need you.
1:39:01
We'll rip it
1:39:01
Adam: together.
1:39:01
Brandan: We're, we're gonna need you- We're gonna rip it-… when
1:39:03
the Seahawks are- Yeah… w- when the, the offense, the opposing
1:39:06
offense is in their huddle, and then we can make all the noise.
1:39:09
Adam: That's right, and then we're gonna rip it together on that third down.
1:39:12
We're gonna help the Seahawks go and just smother the life out of another
1:39:16
team as they chalk up another victory, as they run it forward, as we go
1:39:21
back to SoFi Stadium and win another chip at another rival's stadium.
1:39:26
I can't wait for it, man.
1:39:27
Let's go.
1:39:29
Brandan: And I think with that-
1:39:30
Adam: There's only one thing left to say
1:39:32
Brandan: go Hawks.
1:39:33
Adam: Go Hawks.