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NFL Week 3 MNF Showdown | Lions @ Ravens | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems going clear? The left up? What's up?
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  Speaker 2: Every one?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tamberline here aka TOTEG and Tembo back for another
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  Speaker 1: on the way in. Got hoopster title here with me
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  Speaker 1: as always, we're breaking down a fun one hoop. You
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  Speaker 1: got the Lions on. I got the Raven up top here.
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  Speaker 1: You know the teams. Everyone who knows us and has
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  Speaker 1: followed us, these are our squads. Titles the onlooker, but
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  Speaker 1: he's always on the raven side. I know that about
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  Speaker 1: him when he's making his bets. So got my guy
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  Speaker 1: with me to But who's there? You're you were set
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  Speaker 1: day go? And what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 1: How you doing that?
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  Speaker 3: It was actually a good day. Made money on both sites.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's always an accomplishment, especially nowadays it's it's tough,
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  Speaker 3: tough in the streets, so profitable on both sites. Had
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  Speaker 3: some solid teams, you know, didn't fully get there. But
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  Speaker 3: we'll take the green and move on and then I
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  Speaker 3: get to you know, come back tonight and watch my
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  Speaker 3: Lions get their ass kicked. I not feeling good about
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  Speaker 3: this one. We'll see, but I've been down on them
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  Speaker 3: obviously since the Packers NFL is crazy. I mean, you
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  Speaker 3: just look at it. It's like, all right, Packers look
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  Speaker 3: like the best team in football through two weeks. Cleveland
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  Speaker 3: looks like bottom three team in football through two weeks.
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  Speaker 3: What happens Cleveland beats Green Green Bay. It's just a wild,
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  Speaker 3: wild game. And like the you know, any given Sunday
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  Speaker 3: saying just remains undefeated because man, like anyone can win.
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  Speaker 3: It's a crazy game. In terms of the promo the marketing,
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  Speaker 3: I kind of dipped my toe was in the marketing
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  Speaker 3: streets yesterday and added a little incentive to the three
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  Speaker 3: So still time to get in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, excited about that, Excited about this game tonight. I'll
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  Speaker 1: bring title in one second. We've got to give a
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  Speaker 1: big shout out shut to our guy Sheets second in
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  Speaker 1: the million Maaker. But not just that. He's doing the
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  Speaker 1: pool stuff over at ship in Nation for anybody involved
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  Speaker 1: with that. And he said, worst play on the board.
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  Speaker 1: He did a look ahead. It's a premium show, so
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  Speaker 1: he got to be in there. But it was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: He did a look ahead in Survivor and he said
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people publicly are talking about they were
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  Speaker 1: twelve percent in the big splash pool with one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and fifty bucks for the two point five million dollars
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  Speaker 1: splash pool and they got taken out. And I was
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  Speaker 1: saying yesterday like these Browns, man, going into the dog
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  Speaker 1: pound is never an easy thing. I don't care how
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  Speaker 1: good your team is. And we're only two weeks in
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  Speaker 1: so we don't know. But Title, how is your day?
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  Speaker 1: What's going on? My man? And yeah, I know you
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  Speaker 1: were on the other side of that. No Green Bay
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  Speaker 1: in your pools. You were feeling the love there, you
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  Speaker 1: got the Seattle easy. What's going on, man, how you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Feeling good in Survivor. I mean I'd always say
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  Speaker 2: I'll cheer for my money over my team. There's not
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  Speaker 2: really such a thing anymore with what we do, but
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  Speaker 2: that was cool to see. I'm excited for this one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: my team is pretty much the Ravens too at this point.
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  Speaker 2: I keep being on them. I think they're the best
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  Speaker 2: team in football and yeah, they just keep falling up
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  Speaker 2: short every single time. But excited for this game today.
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  Speaker 2: It's I mean, there's big boy money up top. At
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day, though, any given Sunday, like
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  Speaker 2: you really do not know. Look at the defenses yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: the special teams yesterday, just a world win. The craziness
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL. That's a difference between college of Like,
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  Speaker 2: these guys are pros at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 2: They've been their best their whole life. So even though
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  Speaker 2: you're ten and a half point dogs, whatever it may be,
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  Speaker 2: it's the top athletes in the world going against each other.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the difference you get from Saturday to Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Very rarely are you going to see a twenty one
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  Speaker 2: and a half underdog or something upset a big favor
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  Speaker 2: like talent prevails at that level. These guys are all
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  Speaker 2: great and that's what it makes it fun. On Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: You think you know and then you get proved wrong
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  Speaker 2: every Sunday that there's things you don't know.
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  Speaker 1: What about this too. I think MMA is back this week, right,
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  Speaker 1: there's some big contests off top this Saturday. It has
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  Speaker 1: to be very I mean, that's what I always compared
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  Speaker 1: to when people just don't get it. It's like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: do you know how I mean, many people want to
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  Speaker 1: get to the octagon just to have a shot. They're
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  Speaker 1: both in there and I know your stuff says this,
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  Speaker 1: and typically it goes that way, but there's just so
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  Speaker 1: many other ways that can go. And they're literally fighting
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  Speaker 1: for their livelihood. It's like they're good enough to get
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  Speaker 1: in the octagon, which is such a hard place to
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  Speaker 1: get to in the first place, and people are automatically
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  Speaker 1: writing dudes off like Nope, no way. It's like they're
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  Speaker 1: fighting and they know how to fight and have trained
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  Speaker 1: their whole life for this, so it's pretty crazy. There
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  Speaker 1: is some stuff I love the Survivor streets this year.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just so heavily in them, and you know, like
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  Speaker 1: go glex is apparently going into the Panthers Den is
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  Speaker 1: a hard play Division game team on the road going
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  Speaker 1: in there. We know Bryce Young and tent and those
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  Speaker 1: types of guys that can pop up, man, And we
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  Speaker 1: said that too, so you never know. But one thing
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  Speaker 1: I loved, and I'll give my boy nids, I was
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  Speaker 1: on them with the takedown breakdown. That's what Cheets just
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  Speaker 1: doesn't care about, right, like he said it like this,
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  Speaker 1: like it. It had nothing to do with could be a
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  Speaker 1: trap game. It's there was huge future value on Green
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  Speaker 1: Bay and Survivor and it's not even a Survivor show.
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  Speaker 1: I'm giving too much props to this, but I'm just
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  Speaker 1: so excited about it this year. But it was so proven.
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  Speaker 1: That was like, man, everyone's saying they have no real
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  Speaker 1: future opportunity, but if you looked at the look ahead
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  Speaker 1: lines and thought about what they actually might be when
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  Speaker 1: those times come around, they have a ton of future
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  Speaker 1: value compared to right now. And so that was the setup, Hoopster.
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  Speaker 1: Anything else you want to add, man, If not, we'll
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  Speaker 1: get it rolling on this slate. I think it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a fun game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it should be a good game, I mean either way.
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  Speaker 3: I mean you look at the guys that you can
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  Speaker 3: play tonight, and there is multiple slate breaking guys on
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  Speaker 3: both sides. I mean just on Baltimore, three or four
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  Speaker 3: dudes that could just go off. On Detroit, three or
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  Speaker 3: four guys that could absolutely go off, and it should
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  Speaker 3: make it fun for fantasy. I think, you know, captain
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  Speaker 3: ownership probably gets spread out a little bit because there's
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  Speaker 3: so many guys that look like plays in the captain spot.
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  Speaker 3: Where should get things spread out? Yeah, some are going
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  Speaker 3: to be higher on than others. But you know, it
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  Speaker 3: looks like a fun one all around, and I'm obviously
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  Speaker 3: looking forward to watching it as a Lions fan. Of
• 6:32
  Speaker 3: know you are as a Ravens fan as well, But
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  Speaker 3: a lot of different ways to go. There's value plays
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  Speaker 3: on the slave. This is just a solid DFS showdown
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  Speaker 3: game matchup whatever you want to say.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's your grand scheme overview, So
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  Speaker 1: thank you for bringing that up early. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: go to title for his because one thing I'll say,
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  Speaker 1: and it's only you know, week three, I get it,
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  Speaker 1: But the Ravens can really play to their competition no
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  Speaker 1: matter who it is. But the only thing is we
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  Speaker 1: don't know Like the first week, like Hoop said, they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get crushed the next week and they and they're
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Lions are no good. Then they come
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  Speaker 1: back the next week and just pound those Bears. So
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  Speaker 1: what do you actually think is the situation you're titled
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  Speaker 1: with these Lions? Like, what type of situation do we
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  Speaker 1: get going into Baltimore tonight? How do you think this
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  Speaker 1: game plays out?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I think the Lions are fine. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think they're as good as they were previously, but
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  Speaker 2: I think they have two solid running backs. They can
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  Speaker 2: still get play action going with weapons on the other side,
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  Speaker 2: I just I think the Ravens are the best team
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  Speaker 2: in football. I guess I can't even keep saying that,
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  Speaker 2: I guess when the Bills keep beating them. But man,
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  Speaker 2: there's just so many one play to play, Like, I
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  Speaker 2: think Lamar and Josh are in a tier of their own.
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  Speaker 2: Derrick Henry the big Dog. You have Zay Flowers who
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  Speaker 2: can win any Mandaman coverage and you can't really double
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  Speaker 2: him with just how explosive that offense is now I
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: do worry a little like Mark Andrews just might be dust.
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: I mean it's DFS. We'll get to that at that point.
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  Speaker 2: Bateman's solid, But like the d hop the wall is,
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  Speaker 2: like the wide receiver three in the tight end room
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  Speaker 2: does concern me a little bit, and not just talking
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  Speaker 2: Poe season when you do have to go against solid
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  Speaker 2: decordinators that can take away the best players. But this
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  Speaker 2: Ravens seems to move the ball at will. Henry and
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  Speaker 2: Lamar's period is phenomenal. Now kind of just broad slate
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  Speaker 2: if you want me to wrap it into how this
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  Speaker 2: game plays. For that is the value is not great
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  Speaker 2: in the sense of like Charlie Kohler is the only
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  Speaker 2: one viable below one K, then you have to slaw
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  Speaker 2: Raymond Walker, excuse me, Walker, right, Tyland Wallace, Lions d
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  Speaker 2: like it's not comfortable to go click any names down below.
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  Speaker 2: But if you want to play Lamar, if you want
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  Speaker 2: to play Henry, if you want to play Amen Ra
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  Speaker 2: you have to embrace that. And I will be embracing
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: it because they're all going to be really low owned.
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: It has a chance that if you do get it
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: right down below, a touchdown from any of those guys,
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: like you can be looking at less than ten dupes
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: and stuff, and I want to play the stud so
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of thinking more stars and scrubs. I do
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: think like Batman's miss priced at four k Justice Hill
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: is miss priced at two point eight k t. Slaw
• 8:59
  Speaker 2: probably gets a little boost because he's one point two k. Oh.
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: You guys want to say Tesla the whole time.
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: So said, I'm just like, I'm gonna call Isaac coleslaw
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  Speaker 1: because I don't give it. It's not Tesla and it
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  Speaker 1: just sucks. It should be Tesla. You gotta go.
• 9:14
  Speaker 3: It's a law, is it not? Yeah, it is. But
• 9:17
  Speaker 3: I'm not cant. I'm not calling him to Slaw. I'm
• 9:19
  Speaker 3: calling them.
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not exaggerating the slough call him his name.
• 9:23
  Speaker 3: It does sound like it doesn't that is that's a
• 9:26
  Speaker 3: coast law like that's like we.
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: Have to emphasize it's there's an emphasis on the slaw
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  Speaker 1: like you got to say it like that. It's just no,
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying it that way.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, well that might be his name, but whatever you
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: guys want to call it.
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  Speaker 3: No, you're right, No, no, no, you're you're you're accurately
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  Speaker 3: pronouncing it. We just I just refuse to accurately pronounce it.
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: That's fair. But long story short, fifty percent of our
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: captain ownership Lamar Henry Zay Flowers. That's how we have
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: a captain ownership. The three highest know one we have
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: projected over ten percent on the Lions side at the
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: end of the day. This is only a four and
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: a half point spread, but I think it'll be concentrated
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: ownership down below with Bateman, with Justice Hill, Isaac Coleslaw
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  Speaker 2: whatever getting a little and there's so many other guys
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  Speaker 2: that will be on the field down below that if
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: any of them are optimal over those three, you could
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: be looking at a very big payday. Like we saw yesterday,
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: crazy crazy swings, I mean two way chop to get
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: their neighbors last catch, got them at three point three,
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: got the scatterbout captain team to the top instead of
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: them a homes team, just because I mean, no one
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: had the true optimal. What a gross game that was.
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: But hopefully we see another two piece and it's someone
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  Speaker 2: here watching up top.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Chiefs are unbearable at this point, but they
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: always have been, I think for besides for Chiefs fans.
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: But either way, yeah, that's just not a fun watch
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  Speaker 1: last night. Whatever, it's a game, we step and watch it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really excited for this one though.
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: Russell Wilson has to be done though, right, I mean
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: that's just like that's got to be the end of
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: the road. Like that one player where he threw three
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: out of bounds, like didn't even attempt to hit a receiver,
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  Speaker 3: Like that's just like a fuck you, like middle finger
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  Speaker 3: for reason, Like that's no effort.
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: Like though, for a league that people just get it,
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: like everyone gets away with so much and ye, you
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: just talk about how hard it is to make the
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: league or how hard it is to make the octagon,
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: like people get it. I feel like a fighter just
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: walks in the ring and turtles on their first opportunity.
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: Dan Is like, here you go, pale for coming out.
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: You're never coming back. How are you kicking a field goal?
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: I think it was the Saints yesterday down thirty six
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  Speaker 1: to three, and you got red Zone Hanson covering for
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: you saying it's probably they don't want to be the
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: biggest first half downfall since history. It's like, no, it's
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: probably just they know they suck. And like this is
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: just the worst stuff that should be fired.
• 11:36
  Speaker 4: Like it's like just the hold these olds in the NFL,
• 11:42
  Speaker 4: like they just they're immune to any criticism or losing
• 11:46
  Speaker 4: their jobs for dumb decisions, like people that have been
• 11:48
  Speaker 4: in this league forever.
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  Speaker 3: You see with the coaches and you see with like
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: the veteran players. But again, yeah, it's a good analogy
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  Speaker 3: with Dana White because that would be like you coming
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  Speaker 3: in the ring and you know, you tap out when
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: you clearly could have fought back or something, or you
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: just yeah, you just knowdle position and you just give up.
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  Speaker 3: Like he's gonna go in there, say your ass is done.
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: You're not fighting for the UFC anymore. In the NFL,
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: you can just keep doing that ship. But for Giants fans,
• 12:13
  Speaker 3: I hope, I hope they just get the young kid in.
• 12:15
  Speaker 3: There's no reason not to. I mean, Russe Wilson is
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: not going to lead.
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: That should have had half like they were still in
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: that game because their defense. You know how much fire
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: that would have lit on, Like if you really want
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: the town they go with second half, Dart beat them.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, Giants fans would have hope it was. It's crazy,
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: but how bad the Cowboys do?
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  Speaker 3: They think like Russell Wilson's like gonna lead them to
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  Speaker 3: something this year. That's what I don't understand.
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: You protect them I want, is my guess. But how
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: bad is the Cowboys defense when it's all set in un?
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: I mean rusty so bad? So bad?
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: I mean they just are They're hurting right now? Do
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: on top of that, like even that Digs ended up
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: playing yesterday but then went out, and then you had
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: Bland who's still out, and I mean.
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: He was guy got tourist by dunes. They try to
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: jam him at the line.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, seconds.
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  Speaker 1: Better than we you know again, people this week we're
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: giving him credit for it, but they haven't given him
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  Speaker 1: a ton until then. But yeah, Danny Dollars, how about
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: that guy? Yeah he's back, So I will say you
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: said it earlier, hoop. I was gonna say this like
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: people are like, oh, I hope my kid grows up
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  Speaker 1: to be a football superstar. I'm like, no, just grow
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: up to be a head coach. Like I saw this
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: week about Mike McDaniels. We've already seen the Cliff Kingsbury.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: These guys get paid. Mike McDaniels they're gonna fire his ass.
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: Probably should, but they're gonna fire him. He's still gonna
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: collect like nine or twelve million somewhere in that range
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: because it's all like undisclosed, and that's what he's gonna collect.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: And you think another team ain't gonna hire him, he'll
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: be in oc somewhere next season. Problems, he'll chill out
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: for a bit. Klingsbury went to Thailand or something like that,
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: made like nineteen million to come back to the Washington setup.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: And now he's got Jaden Daniels who's out right now
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: as his quarterback, and like good to roll again. And
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: they just get paid huge and they don't even gotta
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: put the pads on. Such a good setup to here
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  Speaker 1: son grow up or daughter grow up to be a
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  Speaker 1: coach in the NFL. Forget, forget the other side. That's
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  Speaker 1: pretty crazy. It's great, right, let's get back to it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go captain's title. I'm going to go to you.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: Let you kick it off first. But you said the
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: key point. First of all, you've already mentioned that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it is like fifty percent Lamar Henry Zay. Anything outside
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: of that, I don't think there's this I know there's
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: late steam, but I don't know if there's going to
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: be a Detroit captain that gets to ten percent, and
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: if there is, it might be one. And it's funny
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: because you know it's all matchups and things are different,
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: but a manra is coming off of what a three
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: touchdown game, whether it's against the Bears or not. My
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: point is like, usually you see some of that leak
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: over in showdown. Nope, fifty has to be one of
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: these three guys. That's the bottom line. What's your thoughts
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: of the other thoughts? I guess at the captain.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's partly to do because of his
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: price tag too. With Derrick Henry two hundred less and
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: then Zay Flowers two k less and they'll project pretty similar.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: People will just see that. I'm andra as clearly my
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: favorite Lions captain, and I want to be overweight to
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: that seven percent number I'm seeing just because there's so
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: many ways he can get there. He can have thirteen
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: catches when it's all said and done. Obviously get in
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: the box, good after catch, like he's gonna have to
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: be involved for Detroit to stay in this game. In
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: my opinion, I think the Ravens will try and take
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: away the run. I'm in Rock clearly my favorite guy.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm definitely playing Lamar. The good thing with
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: Lamar a his ownership isn't even getting crazy. We have
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: them at twenty one percent. I guess a little higher,
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: but I wouldn't be surprised if it's even if it
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: is twenty one percent. Do you want to play him naked?
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: Do you want to play him with two pass catchers,
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: three pass catchers just one? A lot of the stuff
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: that I was mentioning, the Hopkins, the Wallace, the Walkers,
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: the Kohlers, a lot of the cheap Ravens that are
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: gonna be low owned. It's a lot easier to play
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: them in the flex when you're playing Lamar at captain,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: just hoping it's something like last week where he does
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: throw touchdowns to no names and any one touchdown from
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: them to get that cheap guy and the optimal chalk.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Lamar at captain, though, just waging so many different ways
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: to pair him, so I will embrace that for sure.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: I'm almost always it feels like underweight Derrick Henry in
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: these Showdown games and I get owned. It feels like
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: in the quarter all the time. There's no strong stands
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: here there. I mean, he's so good, he's gonna get
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: the ball a ton. Game script's very favorable if you
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: are building him at captain teams. I just recommend thinking
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: about how that game script goes. Justice Hill is clearly
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: the passing down back. If they are down twenty one
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: to ten in the fourth quarter, you're gonna see a
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: lot more Justice Hill than Derrick Henry. So when you
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: build teams with him, just try and have it make sense.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Maybe Raven's defense in the flex could be a little
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: correlation there, like we saw Mason Vikings. I think the
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: low low owned guy at captain that I'll be overweight
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: on is Rashad Bateman. The reason for that is, just
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: like we saw plenty of times last year, he just
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: outperformed say Flowers. He's gonna be on the field a ton.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: It's a wide receiver two. The numbers haven't shown yet
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: this year. It's still such a small sample size, But
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: why couldn't he be one of the highest scores on
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: the slate. You get a clear price discount from all
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: the other captains. I'm really interested in, Like, I don't
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: think I were like anyone really below the ten thousand
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: mark at captain when you plug him in besides Bateman,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: like I'll let Hoop touch on the porta. Maybe he'd
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: be the only other one, but I can see him
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: scoring eighteen real DraftKings points. And if he does that
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: at captain allows you to do a lot of other stuff.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: You can leave money on the table easier. I like
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: him quite a bit, so obviously I'm playing Lamar, I'm
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: playing z. I think he's good. Henry, that's the chalk though, Bateman,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I'm in rust Saint Brown my clear two favorites after that.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: This Jimmy guy man this year has been joining us
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: a lot, and this is true. That's actually kind of funny.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Guy in Pennsylvania have been Robin Banks in a DraftKings hooty.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: They're calling him the fantasy Bandit. Can you imagine just
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: running around just Robin Banks in a DraftKings hoody. It
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: could be anybody. What do you think here? Wop the
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: set up a captain? I will say, like, it's all
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: to do with the values on the slate too, like
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: with no likely. I know people already talking about the
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Kohler Bear, which is a way cooler name than Tesla,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: But you know there's a couple different guys down there
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: that are cheap enough. But then you know, what, do
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: those builds look like? They're gonna kind of looks similar,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: and you're just rotating in the value plays, right, Like,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: if you've got Lamar up top, you're gonna need someone cheap.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: It can be col Or, it could be Wallace or Walker,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: it could be Tislaw, it could be somebody like that
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: that people go to. But my point would be you
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: kind of end up in those same zones versus someone
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: just mentioned in the chat. What if you put Jamo
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: up top. He's the opposite side and similar price point
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: to Zay at maybe half the ownership, And then you've
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: got the guys that aren't Zay flowers in the same
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: wide receiving room like Bateman who title mentioned. And also
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: don't forget about d Hop up top. They did say
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: they're gonna get him more involved, and he's already been
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: making better catches than most in the NFL this season,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: so maybe they can get him involved, But I don't know.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: There's other options for sure that aren't just Zay on
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: that side. And the Henry stuff is interesting as well.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: What do you got, Hoop.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: So I think this conversation is definitely leading to me
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: seeing things maybe a little bit differently on the slate
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: because we're going here and we're able to make the
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: case for how many guys up top so far, maybe
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: like ten to twelve, And when people go and build lineups,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: people like to spread things out and get a little
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: bit of exposure to everything. I think, based on the conversation,
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: just looking at some of this stuff and the fact
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: that we don't have many elite value plays, Lamar Jackson
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: has to come in closer to fifteen than twenty. Like
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I know we're showing twenty right now, but that has
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: to come down because there's so many guys in play
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: at Captain. Like on the Baltimore side, you have Lamar,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: you have Derrick Henry, you have Zay Flowers, who's probably
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: one of the most underpriced guys on the slate. Can
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: make the case for Bateman, we can make the case
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: for d Hop. Like you just said, you go to
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: the Lion side not as appealing, but you have volume
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: guys a Manra Gibbs. People will definitely play a little
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: bit of golf. You got the big play guy and
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Jamison Williams got the big play, not big play, but
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Sam Laporta, and then like the random dudes are gonna
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: get a little bit too, Montgomery's gonna get a little bit.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson has to be probably the lowest owed in
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: the captain spot he's ever been on a Showdown Slay.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: There's just no way around it in my eye. So
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking probably more thirteen fourteen, fifteen percent range, which
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: which to me is like I gotta I gotta get
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: way over on that. So that's the first thing that stance.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: And I think that also is gonna hit on Derrick
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Henry as well. I think Derrick Henry comes down a
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: little bit. We are currently showing uh fourteen, I think
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: it could be ten to eleven is So it's gonna
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: get spread out of captain because there's so many guys
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: that people are gonna view as being in play, and
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: I will admit I'm probably gonna spread it out a
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: little bit more as well. But like you know, Lamar,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Derek Henry good point by title, though, if you are
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: playing Derek Derrick Henry Captain, I think you do want
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: to be cautious with how you build those teams. And
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: I'm with title on this as well, where I'm usually
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: underweight on Derrick Henry on the Showdown and he just
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: fucking pounds me immediately. Like, if you're underweight on Derrick
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Henry going into this slate, you know he's gonna like
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: break off a fifty yard touchdown run to start the game.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: It feels like, at least it feels like it's happened
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: to be almost every single time I'm underweight on Henry,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: He's got like twelve points in the first drive, So
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: just to be cautious of that, but I think it
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: gets spread out for sure. And you know the guys
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: I'm most interested in Lamar probably Zay Flowers, and then
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: on on the line side, you know probably the volume
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: guys A Manra and Jamiir Gibbs. I mean, Gibbs can
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: get there in any sort of game script. I mean
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Game one, he had how many catches. I mean, it
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: didn't go anywhere, but it scores well on on DK
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: and he's getting more, Yeah, twelve or ten catches we've
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: won against Chicago's he did absolutely nothing at all, forty
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: total yards or fifty total yards and got fifteen Fantasy points.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Like that's not a big number by any means, but
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: the floor is extremely high, and they're not using Montgomery
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: as much like last year. Montgomery was out there first draft.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Every single time. It's Ben Gibbs, so I'm in on him. Like,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: you can definitely play the Jamison Williams up up top stuff,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: but I'm gonna be more focused on the volume guys
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: for the Lions and then Lamar and Zay for Baltimore.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: But I do think the main takeaway for sure is
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: it just it's gonna get spread out, you know what,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: way more than people think up top.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I mean this might open the doors up because you
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: didn't want to really bet like Lions versus Ravens anything,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: because you just have no faith in your team. But
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I will bet a lot on over thirteen percent Lamar
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: in the Captain tonight.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: I think that's I would too. I've got a lot
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: on the over. But I said it could get as
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: low as it like, it's probably minus. Yeah, I mean
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: it's favored definitely.
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: I see what you're trying to do. You're trying to
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: rope me into some bullshit bat here, but it's not
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: gonna happen. That's like the floor, Like I think it's probably, honestly,
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: like fifteen or sixteen. I feel pretty good with that number.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Sure I would say this, you know, agree with most
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: of the assessment. I think that the Dereck Henry stuff
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: is where we see it drop off. Like I don't
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: think any I think a lot of people are going
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: to feel the same way you guys feel about it
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: and then also still not play it and just hope
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: that he doesn't run that fifty yard or eighty r touchdown.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: And I don't see him coming in around fifteen or
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: fourteen or anywhere like I see him more like nine
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: or ten. I think Zay could get higher than we think.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Definitely a possibility. And I also think on the lion's side,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: like I said, it's I don't think anyone is likely,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Like right now, I don't see anyone over ten, but
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: if anyone was too, the one that I was hinting
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: out with title was definitely a Monro. I think a
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Monra can creep up there for sure fifteen point six,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: like he would take away from Henry at fifteen point three,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: which even though right now it shows that it's still swayed,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I think that could be the case, but I could
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: see them getting closer in line, and I think Henry
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: comes down, a Monro goes up. I think Zay goes up,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: and I think Lamar comes down a little bit. But
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: you know so I agree with Hoop's assessment, but nowhere
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: near that. I think it's floor is more like fifteen,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: and I think we end up seeing them more at
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: like seventeen or something along those lines, is the way
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I would see it. People just love Lamar, And there's
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: the thing is, there's so many options to make him
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: work tonight. Like I looked at lineups early and I
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: don't know what you got to sabers him up? Hoop,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: are you gonna Yeah, yeah, I got it uphold and
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: see what we're getting. Wrote me into some bullshit that
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: he's so mad about the showy last year. The first showy,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: he was fine with the second one. He was like, nah,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: He's like, you can't make that that one sided like that.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: But it was clean. We had the timestamps to prove it.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: But yeah, this is.
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, he's still mad.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: All right, there we go. What are we seeing on
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: the dry run, hoopsterore? What have we got?
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: So it's a lot of day flowers, like he's under price.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: We got Lamar Jackson thirty percent, Golf eight, Mark Andrews seven,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: and this is Sabers score by just the biggest amount.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: So fifty fifty thousand plus go to Flex. It's you know,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: a lot of Lamar. So it's loving Mark Andrews. And
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: this is our projections and U and our and our
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: ownership as well. So it's not I don't know, like
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: nothing really stands out when when going through this, Is
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: there any like super cheap guys that are showing up
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: a ton? No? Not really, so uh yeah, it is
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: getting a lot of zay Flowers here because zay Flowers
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: is you know, when you look at it, when you
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: compare his projection to his price, you know, one of
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: the more underpriced guys. So if we just cap this
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: at thirty, like what else comes in?
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Let's see if like the cheaper guys move up since
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: you're like the day Captain bills a lot of you
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: go more middling stuff with baby cheapest.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: It was just more just more Lamar. It looks like
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: that we ended up getting.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: But is it like Justice Hill in the Fly.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Justice Hill just went up in the Flex when the
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: So that's what it is. Like if you're spending all
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: the way up, you obviously salary based game you need
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: to grab below, whereas if you go like Zay, you
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: can go like Bateman is your cheapest and then go
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: more middling stuff.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that'd be a guy whope you did this
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: last year, like the Juju situation, Like Justice Hill is
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: just gonna pop into those Lamar lineups and make them work.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: But be the case. I also think this is another
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: thing that thinks interesting because our guy Jordan answered this
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: earlier and my thoughts were similar, but on the Captain
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: conversation more so, if I can find it, Yeah, I
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: said the answer to this question, which will be asked plenty. Yes,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: you can use both Hill and Henry together. It showdown.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: It's not just that it showdown as much as it's
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the price. Right, you got ten two and twenty eight hundred,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: you can definitely play him together. But what I'm saying is,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: you know, all there's a lot more casual players than
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: there is people watching these shows and breaking it down
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: from this perspective and learning how to actually play the game.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: A lot of people say, oh, I can fit Justice Hill,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I don't need to play Henry. I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: hope it's not a Henry game, and I'm gonna get
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: it through Justice Hill, even though they're not even gonna
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: be close to the same and it's totally different how
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: they set up and when they're using all these different factors.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: But I do think people find some calmness in that
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: title where they're like, oh, if i've guys, if I
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: don't have Henry, at least I got someone that could
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: vulture him. They don't always think of how it actually
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: works out, So I think that will be something else
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: that just keeps them in check a little bit. Anything
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: else you've got to add on this stuff seen so
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: far titled.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: That's not like the ft like four and a half.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm tempted. There's no live on it. Sometimes
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: when I'm really strongly tempted, though, I tell myself, like
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: almost the other way, Sharper. If it feels if it
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: looks too good to be true, it might be. I'm
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: definitely not betting the lines. I'm not saying that, But
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: any thoughts between the both of you, it's your teams
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: on this four and a half point spread, only.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: I mean only, I think the Ravens should be favored
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: by seven.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: That's what I mean four and a half, only like
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I was expecting a five and like a legit five
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: and a half.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: I thought you were saying you're gonna be interested in
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: the lines a little bit.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: I think my heart's everything's telling me Ravens. But when
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I feel so confident, that's when I like get scared.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: But I think it's like reverse line movement too. I
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: think a lot of people have been pounding that number,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: thinking like Hoop said, like it should be like six
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: and a half or seven and a half or something,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure, yeah, our guy said it opened
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: up at six and.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: By the day, I think it's so like we like
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: people saw the Lions bounce back and absolutely spank the
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Bears last week, so like, all right, they're back, you know,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: and you know, if they're back to where they were
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: last year, this is probably like a three point spread
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: instead of a four and a half. I'm just in
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: on the four and a half. Like it's a bad
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: spot for the Lions, like primetime game on the road
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: against a running quarterback. They suck against running quarterbacks, Like
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: I just it's a really really bad spot for the Lions.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: If I was making this line, I would definitely would
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: be like seven.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I'm curious, Yeah, what's the final score? Let's get the
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: YouTube chat involved, like always, that's always the fun one.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: What do you got the final score of this game?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: So who's who wins and what's the final score of
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: the game. Andrea said, what's the build strategy? The reverse
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: line movement is just a betting terminology like this, if
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: everyone's betting the six the six points because they think
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: they should win by more, yet the line keeps creeping
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: back the other way. The line movement is going in
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: reverse of the betting action. That's what we're talking about there.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: It's if you believe in like some people say, that's
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: all I better get on the Lions. The reverse line
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: movement means I gotta smash them, because that's what they're saying.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: And people believe in that, then you'd want to build
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: for it to be a closer game with the Lions
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: sticking in it or winning or whatever that might be.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: But I think, to be honest, most of us here
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: that are playing the game are gonna still be building
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: some of these Lions lineups and stuff that involves them anyway,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: just because so the chat's starting to fly in now
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: with the numbers thirty eight, thirty Ravens, big Ravens. Shout
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: out to our man, Jason Leatherwood, he's got a score up.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: But let us know who you got winning that game, Jason.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Maybe he means Ravens because everyone's just assuming that. But
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: everyone's got the Ravens pretty big, and.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: The old Lions in the under.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: And also like Drea saying, scat, look at yesterday's game
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: with the Chiefs Giants, scatabout captain was on the winner
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: with them only scoring one touchdown. So just because like
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: you think you know who wins, you think you know
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: the score, it doesn't mean that that's how it plays
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: out for DFS.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: So with your worthy hitter that time going out, look
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: at them sheets almost won the MILLI yesterday, you know,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: a tight end away with four guys from the team
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: it got pounded forty four to twenty one or whatever
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: that final score was of the Washington. He was making
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: light of it and having fun with it. But he's saying, like,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: of course I had the classic quarterback plus three no
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: run back by the team that got smoked, and the
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: top guy got the least amount of points for them.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it really it's fantasy points scoring. Why
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I always try and harp on that, even on the
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: classic slates when it's like, oh, but they're only gonna
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: put up seventeen points. That could be two touchdowns for someone,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: and then they could have six catches for one hundred
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: and eight and they're needed on the slate like, you
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: have no idea how that's gonna go. So it's trickier
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: to just go off that and assume that a blow
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: up means a five to one for example. So yeah,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: you know this arse came in Arse sixty ninety one.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Almost every time a shootout is predicted, it never happens.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Almost now walkxymoron, I think, actually I.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Feel better about my Lions after seeing every one in
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: the chats on the ravens.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Avery coming through in the clutch with another one. Nico
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: finally had a solid game and you know.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Ten points or ten yeah, yeah.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: So all right, let's talk about the running back room then.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Title we talked to a little bit about the quarterbacks.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I know already, like how you can build it if
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: you've got golf up top. It's gonna obviously be with
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: pass catchers. Things like that people know sort of the
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: basics of it. But when it comes to the running backs,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: the Justice Hill situation more curious the other side title.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: But like the Gibbs Montgomery stuff, I think Hoop has
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: some takes on it also. But what's your thoughts on
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: this running back set up for either team?
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I always enjoy like when there's you at least
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: think you can mix in a third running back on
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: either team that gets some ownership. I really struggle. I
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: think you're only playing Gibbs Montgomery almost if you have
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifteen you want to put in like
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: a Craig Reynolds or something, It's you're donating ninety nine
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: percent of the time. But it's Gives Montgomery for Detroit,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: it's Justice Hill Derrick Henry for Baltimore. What I'm seeing
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: is like Detroit side that DeMont is. We haven't projected
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: that twenty percent owning the flex only for someone that
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: has two touched on upside. Clearly, even if you had
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: twenty yards on the ground, he could the goal line back.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: He could score two touchdowns. I don't even know for
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: sure if it's the goal line back, but he's the
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: bigger back to bruiser. They still rotate like twenty percent
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: for a running back that's going to be mixed in.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: That's actually pretty solid, is what stands out. So I'm
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: probably gonna be overweight in the flex with him. I
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: don't love the idea of pairing Montgomery Gibbs, mainly because
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: of the price tags and just they don't share the
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: field too much together. I wouldn't make a rule. I
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: would trust Saber Sam and their correlation sliders and what
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: contests you're playing and all that, so I wouldn't make
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: a rule to exit out. But I doubt I get
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: there in handbuilds. Whereas if I'm playing Henry up top,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I can easily still play Hill in the flex, like
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: you said, for the salary reasons mainly, but what if
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Derrick Henry just eats them up in the first half
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: and they just they blow him out a blowout script
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Henry got there, scores two or three in the first half,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: they're up twenty one or twenty eight, and then Justice
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Hill's getting all the late work, and you can get
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: it that way. So I think you can easily play
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Henry and Hill together in a multitude of different ways.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I struggle a little bit with Gibbs Montgomery captain. Wise,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I probably only gonna play Gibbs and Henry up top.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: It feels like a long shot, especially someone that's putting
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: a little i know, ball into it that I think
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Ravens win for Montgomery to get their up top. It
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: feels like they have to be playing from ahead or
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: a very low scoring game where he falls in the
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: box twice.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and I think that's you know, the
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: chat's talking a little bit the Monty stuff up tops
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: and he gets you everything like there's certainly and Johnny's
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: always here supporting, so I appreciate the input. I mean,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: that's definitely true and it will still be different. So
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: that's the key. You can almost do what you want
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: at that point. He might be three or four percent
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: by the end of the you know, all things said
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: and done him up in the captain because it just
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: most people would be on somebody else if they're going
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: to that. He's still ninety three hundred. Like people can
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: get Laporta for less. People can go to the other
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: side and get Bateman or Andrews or whoever else they
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: want to fit in there. So I think that's a
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: unique approach for sure, Hoop, what are you thinking about this?
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I know you hinted a little bit earlier at sort
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: of the Gibbs versus Montgomery stuff, But what are you
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: thinking about these running back rooms?
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, after the Lions obviously Gibbs, I mean, as much
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: as I can get I want. I mean, the floor
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: is massively high. He's you know, obviously expensive, but man
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: like on a one game slate where a guy has
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: the upside to score multiple touchdowns, catch ten passes. If
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: he's not scoring multiple touchdowns, the security there is is solid.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: I want more of him than Henry, but I mean
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: I will have a good chunk of both. But comes
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: to David Montgomery, though I'm a little worried. I do
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: think it is higher than twenty. We're showing twenty. Saber
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: has it at twenty nine. Maybe it's somewhere in the middle,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: you know, twenty five, twenty six. I do think it's
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: probably closer to the thirty than the twenty. I just
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: struggle with these running backs like David Montgomery, who to
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: me now is like a backup running back at sixty
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: two hundred and even if he scores one touchdown like
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: that might not be good enough. He's had I think
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: ten or eleven carries in the first two games, no receptions.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: You're just really limited to I think multiple touchdowns. So
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: I'll be probably underweight on Montgomery and then Justice Hill,
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: I think is totally fine for this late. Like again,
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: these guys, these cheap backup running backs that can kind
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: of get everything you need from them in one drive,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: one to two minute drill or so valuable for Showdown.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: And I mean, no, give him carries at the goal
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: line too. If Henry busts off like a big run
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: and you know Justice Hills in there for a couple,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: they don't mind giving him the ball. So I think
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: he's a really good play. So for me, it's like
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Gibbs then He'll I'm saying in terms of how above
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: the field, I'll be Gibbs, then Hill, Henry, then Montgomery
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: for me. But I do worry about Montgomery quite a
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: bit here.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and only you need to go there obviously. It's
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: like I said, it's a way to get different in
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: your builds and you know what you're getting for that.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: So it's possible, like Title had said, maybe he's the
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: one that falls in. But the Gibbs stuff just seems
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: too light as well. Maybe he'll pick up some steam overnight,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: like you talk like as the night on, I mean,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: like you talked about Hoop and spreading it out because
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: him or a Monra, they're three hundred bucks apart in
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: the captain slot, but they're way more than Zay Flowers.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: They're way more than Jamo or any of those other
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: alternative options are going down to these spend downs, so
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: maybe that keeps them held in check. Plus it gets
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: spread out, so you can definitely get action that way,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: and Gibbs can can easily be up top tonight. I
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: mean it doesn't even regardless, they could lose the game
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: and he could be the part that does well for
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: the Lions and ends up being up there, like titles
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: point earlier. So yeah, I'm gonna have interesting Gibbs tonight
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: for sure. Let's go to wide receivers, Hoop, I'll stay
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: with you there. We talked a little a Monra, We
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: talked about Jamo's ability just to open things up, and
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: then on the other side, it's bigger because the Flowers chalk.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: But you've got Bateman, you've got Hopkins, you got tes
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Walker is now in the mix sum too, on top
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: of the other guys in that room. They got a
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: lot of options there though. So what's your thoughts at
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: the wide receiver position.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of viable options here. I mean basically
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: both teams, all their wide receivers are essentially in play
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: here for me tonight, obviously Saint Brown's the most expensive
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: at ten to four. But you know, we saw his
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: upside last week where he went off for like forty
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: fantasy points. His his style of play fits DK scoring perfectly,
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: whether they're playing from behind or playing with the lead.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Zay Flowers to me, is too cheap at eighty four hundred.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: I mean the ownership does reflect it. We're showing forty percent,
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: and I think that is pretty accurate. He's going to
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: fit in with any sort of build, Like if you're
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: playing if you're going cheap, cheaper captain, he's going to
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: fit in there. If you're playing an expensive captain, he's
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: going to fit in there. So he will be owned.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: But just you know, eye test, he looks good, like,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: he looks very good. He looks explosive. You know that
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: that Week one performance was very strong, But you know,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: nine or eleven targets last week, I mean when they were.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: It really wasn't a great offensive game for the beginning.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: They did end up getting there and blowing out Cleveland,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: but seven for seventy five, if he has that same
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: stat line to then and catches a touchdown, he's almost
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: certain to be inoptimal. So really like him, Jamison Williams
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: maybe has a chance to get squeezed like a little bit,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: like just a little bit at the eight K. I mean,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: we're showing so here's another gap between what Saber's showing
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: and what we're showing. Saber showing twenty we're showing twenty eight.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: I would bet probably somewhere in the middle. I mean,
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: and he can go off and if you are playing
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: golf captain, we really didn't discuss that a lot. I mean,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: I don't think I'm going to play golf captain, but
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: if you are, I think Jamison Williams is a good pairing.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Then you have six guys under five k that are
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: in place. So this is really where you find the
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: value on the slaves at this position. Hopkins, I made
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: some incredible catches to start the year at forty eight.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: We already talked about Bateman, you know, we said Zay
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Flowers looks under price, so does Bateman at four K.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Title brought up a good point. He's going to be
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: on the field. He's on the field a ton and
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: at four K it's not to take much for him
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: to pay off that salary. I think he's a great
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: play Tylon Wallace at three K, big play stuff. If
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: you have Lamar captain, he finds them once like that's
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: all you need. Lions continue to play Cliff Raymond quite
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: a bit. I mean, obviously i'd prefer Teslaw to be
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: out there, but you know Raymond's going to be out there.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: He's two K. At two K, don't need to do much.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: If he gets two catches for forty or fifty yards,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: that could be enough. A two K guy gets you
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: eight fantasy points, that could be enough. Walker was it
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: last week he had the two touchdowns or I believe
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: it was. Yeah, I mean two touchdowns, two catches, two touchdowns.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Hard to just x him out on this late and
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: then Teslaw, like we talked about at the twelve hundred,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: like this guy has to get on the field more.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: You have to imagine they're going to use him more.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Twelve hundred dollars plat I think he's a he's very talented,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: and I think he's a great play for the late
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: So long story short, like, I'm just gonna be playing
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: all these wide receivers just some degree, and it is
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: kind of rare on a slate where like almost ever,
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: you can make even if you don't like them, Like
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: you might not like some of these players, but you
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: can make a relatively strong case for I think every
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: single guy, which is pretty pretty darn rare.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it looks like tonight. It's all again.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be how you build it out. But I
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: think you know Nate said a good point in the chat,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: especially when people I was asking how much money can
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I leave on the table, Like if you had a
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: lineup where you wanted to pull Ze out and put
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: up Bateman, you could leave that money, and it also
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: could be a spot where that you still have money.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: But then you also look for a double dip of
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: not the double dip you're thinking of with the defense
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: and a kick returner, but like you say, okay, I
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: also have a twelve hundred dollars tesla like you said
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: in there, and then you say I'm gonna put Raymond
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: in for two thousands, So I'm still leaving a bunch
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: of money on the table, but I'm also gonna go
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I think Raymond probably will end up being half the
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: ownership of him. They probably have this, they're probably the
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: same thing as far as projection capability. Who knows all
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: that stuff goes. So it's like it just depends on
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: how you're building your lineup. But if you're doing it
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: like that, you could easily leave it on the table.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Then you look at comparing it to to tight end
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: as well, like Mark Andrews is four hundred dollars more
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: than Bateman, four hundred dollars less than Hopkins. So those
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: are all guys on the same team that no one
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: knows the answer to it. We all have opinions, we
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: all have thoughts, but you don't know the actual answer
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: to it too. Like if you landed on a lineup
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: with five thousand dollars left, you could play, literally just
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: play the lineup three times and put each of those
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: guys in, Because no, you don't really know. You can
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: put whatever you want into it and say you're good,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: but you know they're all going to be probably similar,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I would say. Besides, Hopkins will be a little bit less.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: But I think Andrews and Bateman will come in similar
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: ownership and then Hopkins a little less, so you can
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: do it that way as well. I think that's you know,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: another thing I'm thinking about on this slate title is
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: just how I'm setting up my builds and where I'm
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: landing versus just taking a stand on a guy or
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: something like that.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. On a quick side note, like Danny, you know
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: you're our boy. We appreciate you. You've been with us.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: You know from the beginning last season. You do not
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: get to victory lap the Vikings performance against Jake Browning.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Yes, they got the job done fantasy wise,
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: but this is not a cause for a victory lap. Sorry,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: can't do that.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: No, you're good. That's a good call out.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Defense beating up on a backup quarterback is a tough
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: one to follow up. Even though they did do that.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: It was pretty crazy. I know, I had the demand.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Hamdwich texted me every play that they made because he
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: put him in the slate plan, so he was all
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: funing up and I was like, all right, but what
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: about the other eight spots they got through? We got
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: the d Now what else right, what else do you
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: get for us? So shout out to Ham he's the man.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: What do you think title here? Wide receiver? Anything you
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: want to add with that stuff.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: This is the position that makes the showdown slate good.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Like running backs, you only have two on both sides.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: I think tight ends pretty condensed when we get to that. Obviously,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: quarterback like, this is where there's a lot of options.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: This is where the low pieces come in, low own
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: pieces to get different. You can leave money. We have
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: nine guys in play like that's wild to say, in
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: my opinion, four clear ones in Detroit, Amenrod Jmo. Then
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: to the Slaw ray Then would I have to say
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: about the Raymond Slow? Stuff? Really interesting? I do think
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: this Slaw is probably double the ownership. I wouldn't be
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: surprised if he takes.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: I think my title. Just like saying the name you want.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Me to want?
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: You just said like eight times straight, I'm.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Talking about the guy who do you want me to
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: call you?
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Hop?
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Like? Come on, what am I supposed to call the
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: dude his name? Or you want me to call him
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: something else? What am I saying?
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Tell me no, I just want to know. Tell me
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: I like it, though, because yeah, I mean, you're you're
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: dedicated to the proper pronunciation. That sounds good. I mean
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: it rolls off your tongue like perfectly.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know, more and more so.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Of a compliment than you know anything else. But carry on.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: His father used to call him tiger.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: All right, you want to call him tiger?
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: No, no, I want you to continue legit.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: That was his nickname because even his dad probably didn't
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: want to keep saying it. He was just his dad
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: just got the name given to him as well. He's like, ship,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I'm stuck with this, so call me this instead. And
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: so he just made up a nickname for his kid.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: But that's it is. Dad calls him tiger.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Tiger all right, No, no, no, no, you can't call him tiger.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: You gotta you, gotta, you gotta continue on with ta slaw.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: You got it perfect though. I mean it is. It's
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: like an adjustment for a lot of people, but it's
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: just it's flowing for you. I like it.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's gonna be a big name player, hopefully
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: by the end of the year.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: I mean I have him on like fifty of my
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: best ball teams.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping he's not my best right now too. In
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: the five fifty five, hopefully we get a game. So
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: the thing is, though all the hype like has been around,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: You're gonna make me like second guess every time I'm
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: saying that all the hype has been around Tuslah, whereas
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Raymond's the guy that no one wants on the field.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Week one, Raymond played almost all the snaps. To Slop
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: hardly played any He had the sick one handed catch.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Campbell's like, we got to get it more involved. The
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: gap really shrunk between Raymond and to Slah. Week two,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: it almost looks like that to Slap probably will outsnap
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Raymond today. With all that being said, though, I do
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: think we see double the ownership for him. He's cheaper
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: by eight hundred dollars. I wouldn't even be surprised if
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: it got a little higher than double. So in chalkier
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: teams or in teams that I'm not leaving as much money.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I prefer Raymond in teams that you just talk about
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: in ad situation, you're dropping down to baitman, you're doing this,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: you're doing that, then I will eat the chalk the
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: bigger play guy into slat like I think he has
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: way more upset. I think he's better, but game theory wise,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: projections pretty much the same. Pricing's very similar, and one
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: guy is gonna be over double the ownership. I think
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Raymond's the clear game theory pivot for that. I had
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: nothing to say about Amena Jamo. They're both solid, say
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Flowers Bateman. I think there are two best plays on
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: the slate at wide receiver. I think they're both critically underpriced.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: They have big play upside. I'm on the Ravens. I
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: like that. But then you have Walker Hopkins Wallace. Wallace
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: was the guy that clearly outsnaped or outsnapped the rest
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: in wide receiver three sets. He played like fifty percent
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: of snaps. Now, just because you're on the field, though,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: does not mean Lamar's throwing you the ball. It almost
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: feels like d hop who has way less uh snaps,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: like when he's on there, that he actually is getting
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: looked at a lot more. They're designing more plays for him.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: So I'd be lying if I had a strong stance
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: between Walker Hopkins Wallace. I'm gonna say Walker just because
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: he's sixteen hundred when D Hops forty eight and Wallace
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: is three K. I can just drop right down to Walker,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: hope he outscores them, leave a chunk of money and
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: do it that way. But I prefer Raymond to slot
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: over all three of the Walker, Hopkins, Wallace, and I
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: prefer Zay Bateman over Amenrod Jmo. So I hope that helped.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: If anything's confusing, let me know and I can answer no.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I will say though, when we go to tight end,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: are we going to talk about Laporta, Sam Laporta or
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: are we gonna talk about a Monra When we get
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: in there, we can we get your team, got all
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: these guys on it, Hoop, But I'll tell you what's
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: great here because you know me and I'm my rabbit holes.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: This man does have real nicknames too, so Hoop will
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: know these guys, and you know obviously he's We saw
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: this guy ed Lib actually Calvin Johnson Megatron, and they
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: call Tesla Vanilla Tron. He said, is his favorite one, Okay,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: he said, Then they called him, he said another one
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I heard today. He said, There's plenty of other gems.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: He said, Odell Blanco Junior.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: You got to do a lot more. You gotta do
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: a lot more than what he's done so far.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Because he made two one handed catches. But then the
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: other one he said, this is a good one. He said,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: that was pretty good. He admitted with a grin snow
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Dell Beckham Junior. It's making fun of him being white.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: But these are a pretty incredible nicknames. So yeah, you
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: guys gotta go down a rabbit hole every now and again.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: But Sam Laporta is a guy at tight end and
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: we got to move to tight end hoop, so we
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: got Laporta. But this is interesting both sides. You got Andrews,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: no likely, but the polar Bear coler Bear, you got
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: him there, and then you got Sam Laporta and brock
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Right as well. I believe brock Right was getting into
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: the mix on stuff. So what are we getting for
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: action here? And what else do we got?
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the bills like the two top guys here, Laporta,
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Andrews our fifty five for Andrews, forty five for the
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: porta kind of title kind of touched on it early on,
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: like Mark Andrews does concern me like a little bit,
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: like and it's just like nothing and he remember last
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: year like he started out so so slow and then
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: towards the end of the season just absolutely turned it on.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Was catching a touchdown basically close out the year, and
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: then yeah, at the end it came full circle and
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: he couldn't catch like an easy two yard which was
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: painful to see. I'm hesitant to be in on I'm
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: gonna play him obviously, but like if I get like
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: a crazy amount, like I wouldn't playing fifty and fifty
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: six percent of my teams, I will put some sort
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: of cap on how much Mark Andrews I have. It
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: is somewhat concerning. I would say, like how slow he started,
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: and the same thing as last year. The porta. I'm
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: fine with these backup tight ends like Right and Coler,
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Like if I get some, I'm fine, but I just
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: prefer I mean, we I think we have really good
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: value at wide receiver, which we just talked about. We
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: all kind of agreed on it, like I just prefer
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: those other wide receivers over these backup tight ends like
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Right and Coler. So Coler is six hundred though, and
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: that that can go a long way, and it's at
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: that price point where sometimes you just need one cheap guy.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: If they do anything like that's the that's the team.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: It's on the optimal, So like Coler is valuable in
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: that sense, but I just really prefer, you know, the
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: wide receivers, and even looking at Andrews and the porter
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: I think I prefer the wide receivers in their range.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: I prefer the Porta over Andrews. But like, I don't know,
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: I like the wide receivers better and I'm a little
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: concerned with Andrews. So it's kind of where I'm at.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like that, what was I gonna say? The the
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Andrews stuff. The car accident last year, Remember they said
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: it was because of that. He's he started slow because
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: he was in a car accident over the summer, and
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: then you know, you didn't have a good year. And
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: then I know, idol it was the playoffs right when
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: he dropped that pass that everyone thought.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: He humble was even worse. I mean no, everyone remembers
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: the two I mean not word, but for the game
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: the Lamar was driving and then it was gonna have
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: to force Jolts to do something they weren't just gonna play.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: It just so brutal on so many levels. But he
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: just looks slow man him Kelsey, like there's just no
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: there's no separation like absolutely none.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: That's the tricky part here, and that's why you know
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: people don't feel as comfortable. But the fact that he's
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: forty four hundred, you know in the flex especially, like
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think people are running to put him up top,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: but in the flex at forty four hundred, I mean,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: I'm I do probably think he is closer to that
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: twenty five mark where we currently have him. I think
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: that's about accurate, So.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if he's higher, right, Yeah, that
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: and that makes me like like I'm gonna obviously I'm
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: playing one hundred and fifty. I'm gonna play him. But
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: I'm with Hooper in the sense of like if I
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: got like thirty eight percent, I'm gonna manually bump him down,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Like I'm he's gonna pop in a lot of teams.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: He just makes so much work. Projections. Fine, he's on
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: the field, people know the name, like going down to
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: the rock rights the walkers, Like, that's not comfortable. Do
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: you hop in that same range? Like why would you
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: not play?
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: And being out which was like an announced thing where
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: people get really behind that stuff and just automatically moves
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: them be like, oh if he's out. I got to
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: go to the next guy, which should actually be the
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: first guy. But that's what we're saying. He hasn't even
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: really been that so I definitely think that's what's interesting
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: about it. If you guys are new here, but some
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: of you aren't new here, don't remember when Hoop throws
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: up the symbol, that's the bat, not the bat symbol,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: that's the bat room symbol. He's going to the bathroom.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Not this time, Not this time. I had to son
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: just got home from school, and I had to make
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: sure that I didn't lock him out and had the
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: door open.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Breath like me, you must know.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, hopefully did some cardio today.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: I hit that's it that car I Knowdill.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: You got stout in that way. Yeah exactly. So all right, Well,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: do you got anything else you want to add this title?
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: I mean you didn't really fully go through it, but
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: we talked a little bit the you know Coler, right,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I think those guys could be you know, guys that
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: slip in there. But like you said, there's so many
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: values at wide receiver. Anything else you want to add?
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but like let's talk touchdown props. Coler plus
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: eight fifty Wallace plus eight hundred, Raymond plus eight hundred,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Walker plus one thousand, brock Right plus eleven hundred. Like
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: all of those guys that we don't like that are chief,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: they pretty much have the same touchdown prop when I'm
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: playing guys down below. I'm not expecting these guys to
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: score or have like fifty yards and four catches. I'm
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: hoping they fall in the box once in sevens enough
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: to play Lamar and all the studs up top. So
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: six hundred, Charlie Kohler, He's also going to be on
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: the field, Hymond brock Right are going to be on
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: the field more than almost all those receivers we talked about. Now, yes,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: a lot of that's blocking short stuff, et cetera. But
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: I think Coler is very fine. He's the cheapest guy
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: in the pool at six hundred, Like no one below
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: him is even going to be on the field. So
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: just naturally that way, and then being able to plug
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: in a Walker, a Raymond to Slaw and then just
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: dropping them down the Coler, That's something I'll do to
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: get a little different. But I think Laporte is solid.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: I don't like I'm taking the I know ball stance.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: I'm playing Andrews, but I'm gonna definitely cap him at
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: a certain number.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: It's looked bad, I will say, maybe I'll trademark because
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: it's about the one handed catches, the old slaw claw,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: you know, bringing it in. But if you're waiting around
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: all game for that, it's what you said we saw
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: with Hawes last week. I know that the running back
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: that ended up getting in the box and Allie Gordon
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: the second or whatever ended up being what you needed,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: but Hawes was right there. This feels like a little
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: bounce around type slate where these value plays could be
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: the separators in the end. But if you're waiting around
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: all game for the slow claw, when it could be
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: like a coaler or a right getting rewarded off of
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: doing some of that blocking, putting in some of that
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: extra work, and then they're out there enough they get catches.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: There's things like that too. They could have a two
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: for twenty and a touchdown and still happen like that.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: That's definitely possible. So I like that thought process of
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: there is all the talk around the value wide receivers,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: who what when, if this then that, and it could
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: just end up being the backup tight ends, which we've
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: seen on tons of Showdown slates throughout the years, Yet
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: tonight we're not really seeing the ownership link to it
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: at all. I'm seeing them both kind of in that
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: five percent range if that. Will want to see how
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: it actually shakes out. So, anything else do you want
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: to talk about? Hoop the Kickers, D's anything else for
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: this slate in general? Slashank redemption, that's nice. I like
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: that one. Shout out to our guy, trisk it anything
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: else you got there? Hoop on this the Kickers and D's.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: Insane?
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: How long we let him go for?
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Baits has a big leg. I mean, definitely in on
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: him this loop guy, though, I was looking it up.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: When do we play they're on a Showdown slate? Yeah,
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: he's so he's the bildoofer two. He's got thirteen fans.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, you don't always want to look at game logs,
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: but when it comes to Kickers like I do, he's
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: got thirteen and twelve points, so like, yeah, he can
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: make kicks in on him in on Baits.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Defense golf going to be a statue, That's what I
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: was going to ask.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm definitely anytime I'm playing the Lions. I'm
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: just bringing full on pressure, like and I think the
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: Ravens are probably pretty good at doing that. Like, I'm
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: not an expert when it comes to defenses, but I
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: imagine they blitz and are aggressive, and I will. I mean,
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: that's a good price tag forty two hundred going up
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: against a statue quarterback. So I probably have more Ravens
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: defense than any defense I've had and showdown this year
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: just for that reason. And I'm, you know, obviously a
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: golf hater at this point, so it just makes sense.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: And I got a yeah, away game out of the dome.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: That is true, Like golf is better in a dome,
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: he's better at home. Well, they're not in a dome
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: and they're not at home, so you know, golf is
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: a little bit concerning. I know there's a third part
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: to that to make it all flow. I'm sure Tampa
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: is going to have it as soon as I take
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: it back to him, but yeah, I will have some Ravens.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Ravens d You just forgot to say, you know, if
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: he's not at home, he's not in a dome, he's
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: someone you might want to leave alone.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: And that's und I knew you had it. I could
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: see the look in your eyes. That's why I wanted
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: to wrap up what I was saying quickly because I
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: knew it.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, got you. Okay, so let's think about this then.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: One thing I want to say is this one the Ravens.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: KOCHI staff does love him. We draft they drafted him.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: We I'm not a we guy usually, but yeah, I
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: love the Ravens so much. They did draft him, But
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: I guarantee they don't like using them as much as
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: they have been because they got to get to the
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: end zone. That's like the whole setup of the obvious
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: most obviously ever, but I'm saying like that's the whole point.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: That's the struggles they have is staying on the gas,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: keeping that foot down, staying up and going all the way.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: So hopefully tonight they can do that and just you know,
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: crush these Lions. But we'll have to wait and see.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: And it does feel like the way that it's been.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: You know, we could see where the Ravens play down
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: like a twenty four to twenty one type game and
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: the and the Lions have a chance at the end
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: or something, and that's that's how it could play out.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: So if you see something like that, then you know
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: that that's that would be more of a back and
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: forth than what maybe others are giving it. But title
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: anything from you Kickers, do us anything else?
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: I just see our ownership. We have no one above
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: twenty percent now nineteen eighteen. Of course that way for
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: both kickers, but Kickers have been crushing I mean neither
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: of them of twenty percent also because they're getting priced
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: up a little more. And laport of being five to
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: four just two hundred more than baits four hundred more
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: than Loop. I think is a very If you take
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: laport out and you go to one of those two
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: when you leave money on the table, I think Laporte
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: is probably double. The ownership are pretty close to it,
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: So just make sure that makes sense in that game.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Script defense is yeah, I'd hate the Lions, but Ravens
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: a guy that can't really move with favor and pressure
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: things can happen there. So yeah, both Kickers and Ravens
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: C I think is very solid at ownership.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if the Ravens will get pushed up
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: any at all, because it actually does feel like both
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: kickers are gonna come in a little bit under because
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: the pricing, like you talked about, it's a key metric
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: actually that I only many are mentioning where now when
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: you can get a guy like Bateman for four k
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: as much as people like playing a kicker and loop
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: makes it sense and even if they're up and they
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: stall and all that, and we like that. It's like,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: I think people are more comfortable, like, oh, Andrews is
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: forty four, Bateman's four k or Laporta is only fifty four.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: They can just land on any of those guys and
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: feel pretty good about it. There's also options like a
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Hopkins if they want to go for a lower owned
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: wide receiver or something like they want to fit in.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: So that is kind of interesting that it probably keeps
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: the kicker ownership at least someone in check than we
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: usually see. And then the Ravens d is forty two hundred.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: They're two hundred bucks less than Mark Andrews, but.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: Ven's there too. I think they're kept in check because
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Bateman and Andrews the two hundred on both sides. I
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: think people will prefer to click both pass catchers, so
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: I think they should be in check.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, definitely something to think about.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: Because I just yeah, go ahead, Yeah, this is totally
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: off topic, not even really or something. Still, No, Tamba
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: just reminded me of this this guy on so Missus
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: Hoop and my daughter watched that America's Got Talent and
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: there's this guy on there and he's, uh so what
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: he does it's actually very very impressive and you should
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: check out the videos. But you know, Tambo is so
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: good with the rhyme. So this guy, his whole stick
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: is basically you give him a word or a topic
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: and have you seen it?
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, isn't he super impressive? Like it's so loud. The
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: guy's name is Chris Turner, Like, look this guy up.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: It is the most impressive thing ever. So he'll take
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: like he'll just grab five words or five topics from
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: audience and then they drop a beat and he wraps
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: about every single topic, ties it all together. It's honestly,
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: like the most impressive thing I've ever seen. But it
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: reminds me of Tamba on the shows where he'll just
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: grab these things and just like put it into like
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: a little it.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Was idle maybe off him.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: It is a full wrap. Isn't it impressive? Though?
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah? He does, Like I don't know what these I
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: think it's like gen Z, but like these apps where
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: you can like just randomize and like meet up with
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: someone on an app. And so he'll go on that
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: in a crowd of the you know, the boys will
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: be there and they'll like, see this dude, and they'll
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: be like, yo, give me a Yeah, this is the
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: other guy, Harry Mack. This is the guy I seen too,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Harry Max.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Harry Max.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: He says, okay, chill, chill, chill, don't just run past me.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: He's like, I know you're probably looking for some girls,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: but he's like, give me five words right now, and
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: then I'll do this, and he just hammers it out
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: and the boys go nuts. You can look up like
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: reactions on YouTube, but I I don't watch or study
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: these guys.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: It's post to that you're our version, you're.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: The wordplay. Is fun just to think about these things,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: and it's people love a good one liner, and it
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: keeps your keeps your brain young, stay witty. Right, That's
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: that's what it's about.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Harry Max. Great though, look at it.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: You don't watch TV, but you gotta you gotta find
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: find this guy's YouTube videos.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: I wrote it down I'll check it.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: Harry Mack.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: Those are the guys. Man, maybe they collab, who knows,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: but they might be enemies because their competitors. Yeah, who knows.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of not locked in, but I've seen some episodes.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: Now I'm like invested on this guy winning the show.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: It's it's coming down to that end, I think. I mean,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: he is by far the most talented dude on that show.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: So I'm show so.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: People don't care anyway, and we're gonna announce the winner shortly.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: We got to still hoop. I know he's a strategy
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: to look that up another thing, but just to say it,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: you know what drives me nuts about those shows, because
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: usually we do food takes at the end is extremely talented.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: It's something that like you could put a thousand people
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: in a room and he's probably the only one that
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: can execute this. And yes, maybe he's up against other
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: people that are similar to that, but it's it's rare.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: But then they don't win, they don't give him win
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: or whatever they.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: Got watching that show. That's a clear winner right there. Like,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: you gotta be able to do something unique different, Like
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: I get singers, they're very talented. They got great voices
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: all that sort of thing. For sure, a lot of
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: people can sing. There's like a much smaller percentage of
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: the population that can do what this guy does versus
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: people that can sing like you should be.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: In the same room. It's like there's no gonna there's
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: no way to have a challenge and it's nothing. I
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: mean again, that's the beauty of music. Everybody loves music
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: of their own variety, their own genre whatever, because there's
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: so many good singers, rappers, are country, whatever you're into.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: But it's like there's still a lot of renditions within that.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: There's not many people that have a super talent like that,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: whether it's people want to say, like what you can
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: monetize it for and all that, just it's America's got
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: talent and that's kind of a factor. That's a pretty
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: sick talent.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 7: So yeah, all right, FanDuel, any thoughts on on that?
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 7: I want to say, Well, you're bringing up FanDuel real quick.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 7: We did have we finally found this the Golden Shipper
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 7: winner because it's they get an email when they're ballots
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 7: drawn and then the it disappears and turns into a
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 7: screen name on DraftKings.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: It's hard to know to match them up. We don't
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: have everybody's DraftKings name matched up, but we did find it.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: So Joe Warner was the winner yesterday of the Golden Shipper.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: I think it was one hundred and fifteen or one
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen people in or something, and he took
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: it down. So congrats to Joe Warner. You are in
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: the finals of ship at Games. If you guys want
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: to know more, you could see it in the top corner.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: Hoops got it up there right now, seventy nine two
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty seven dollars in the top as you see, yep.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: And then for FanDuel, we can kind of go through
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: a quick then we'll pick the winner, and you still
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: have time. I mean you still have a few minutes
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: to get in. Three for three is the code. If
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: you get in now, you're eligible to win the full
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: on football package. It gets you all the way through
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. So the code is three for three,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: three dollars, three days of content. And if you get
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: in now, you have a couple more minutes because we're
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: going to do the drawing here right as as soon
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: as we're done talking about Fandel and the FanDuel talk
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: will go pretty quick. I mean it's very similar now.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: I mean the only thing is the scoring differences, and
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: then you're looking for pricing differences. And in terms of
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: pricing differences, you have Derrick Henry is the most expensive
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: player on FanDuel, four hundred dollars more than Lamar Jackson
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: running backs. Quarterbacks have a little bit of an advantage
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: on FanDuel because of the way the scoring is. Guys
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: like Amanra Saint Brown a little bit of a disadvantage
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: because he can't go out. You know, if he goes
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: out and gets ten for one hundred, he has a
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: chance on DK. If he gets ten for a hundred
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: on FanDuel, less likely that he's the the MVP that's needed.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: Z Flowers a little more expensive over here on FanDuel. Kickers,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: I guess like there's a pretty big difference between Baits
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: and Loop at six hundred. To check out some of
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: these cheaper guys, Bateman Hopkins in the same range, Justice Hill,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: Raymond's cheaper than Teslaw eight hundred dollars cheaper. And then
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: you come down and you got the backup tight ends,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: you got Walker, So all in all pretty similar. I'd say,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: like nothing major in reterms in terms of differences between
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: the two.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, anything for you title before we get out of here.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: No, not really. Like Coop said, pricing is so soft
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: on both sites, like the Brock rights the Cohlers like
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: you don't you can play them on fandal for sure,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: because they're gonna be even lower owned, super low own,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: and you can get a unique up top. But like
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: your lineup can look a lot better if you don't
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: play those guys. So my just thoughts is the value
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: is it's too cheap, the pricing's too soft. You can
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: play pretty much whoever you want. Defenses will be even
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: lower owned I think on FanDuel than DraftKings, but they're
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: gonna be low on on both sides today. If a
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: defense is on the winner, one of these hotkins walkers
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: rock rights like that's how we see the solo shippers,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: if it's a Justice Hill or a Bateman or something
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: like that. And to Slough or whatever. I think we
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: see a lot of dupes today. Yeah.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: One thing I was gonna say, I brought this up
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: from the other night was the Buffalo Miami game thirty
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: one twenty one, and we could easily see something like
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: that tonight here. That's kind of the setup of the
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: total fifty one or fifty and a half depending where
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: you look at center. So it's about fifty two the
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: home team winning by ten. I mean, all this stuff
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: is very possible, and it has nothing to do with
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: that because that doesn't mean it goes the same way
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: different matchups all that. But I will say for FanDuel,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: what I noticed is it's the balanced builds really like
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: or like using it. So for example, Alli Gordon ended
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: up being on the bill at thirty six hundred. Of
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: course he did two percent on that helps make it
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: a soul shipper for sure. But everyone if of the
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: two point two percent in that large field that used him,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: that's enough. Lineups out of all of them that used him,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: most used him with like a stars and scrubs approach
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: because he gets you at the world like I can
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: fit everything in, even in a flex spot. And the
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: difference is it had Wattle, no Tyreek or a Chan.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: It had Kinkaid, not you know, it had Shakir, So
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: it's Shakir Kincaid instead of the Coleman's and the other
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: guys in that range. It had cook up top and
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: not Josh Allen. Most could easily afford Josh Allen up
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: there if you use a guy like Olli Gordon. So
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: just little things like that to think about. It's not
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: saying to copy the build because they're two different matchups,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: two different games altogether. It's noting that. Like, it's little
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: things like that you don't really need. The price discrepancies
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: are like matter more on the bigger prices to me
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: on FanDuel because you can kind of get to whatever
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: you want. But if you find something you like, don't
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: immediately equate twenty one hundred dollars or sorry, fourteen hundred
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: dollars Coaler equals Now I gotta put Lamar up top. Well,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: what do you think everybody else that's using Even if
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: you get him out a smaller number and he helps
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: fit what you like, that's what most people are putting in.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: So I kind of just think about that stuff a
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: little bit differently. All right, point hoop, what are we
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: doing for this draw? We gotta we gotta pick the
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: winner and get out of here. So we are giving
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: away the three hundred and forty nine dollars football only
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: season long pass, which includes Sabersim gets you college football,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: everything else that goes with it in the discord, all
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: of that to somebody that signed up for the trial,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: you can still go sign up. We were gonna close
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: it out yesterday, but we're leaving it until the end
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: of tonight for kickoff for the three for three if
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: you want to get in and check things out, So
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: three bucks to check out tonight. See what we're all about?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: Hoop?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: What are we doing for the winner?
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna pull up everyone that signed up
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: using the code, so we have it here. I need
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: you to give me a number between one and twenty two.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: What number is to slaw He's an A eighteen.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: I'll go eight eight.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's the number eight.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: Let me get there isn't eight? Is Lamar Jackson eight?
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: I'm the worst to remember.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: You guys don't know this. What's Lamars Jackson number? Lamar Jackson?
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: This is it eight? Or no?
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: I think it's eight. It is eight.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: There you go, so it makes.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: Sense eight go eight eight. We'll go eight for.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: In the second. I need between one and thirteen eight
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: eight eight eight eight and eight. Is anyone number eighty
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: eight in this game? By the way, is there any
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: eighty one?
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: Eighty eight.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: Uh players eighty eight. Yeah, he's done. He's not playing next.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: Week, about three to four weeks. I was gonna let.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Eight and eight.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: Let me slide over two eight eight. The winner is,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: let's say this is for a full football package which
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: does include college football. The winner is I made a banner.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: I'm so proud of it, so I threw it out.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: Winner is.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Do you.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: George still Will? George still Will is the winner? So
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: congratulations still Will George just exactly how it sounds, Still
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: and Will together.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: The winner is George still Will. You've got to get on.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say that that might be pointing
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: us to something that.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, six lions, that's my night, Lamar Captain with Cohler
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: and there it is.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: Dang, all right, what do you actually before we get
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: out of here? Like, what sort of team do you
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: have left? After that? You got Lamar Captain, little little show, Core,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: Bonus Show Core, Lamar Cohler teslaw, Oh man, we got
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: we got ten thousand. If we can do some damage here,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: big boy damage Wow, Like, oh my.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: God, it's the absolute nuts too.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 6: I just wow, that's gonna hit hard man. I'm obviously
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 6: in on Teslau for sure. Cohler like it just now
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 6: it makes sense. Oh man, you can you can get
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: some nice things, nice things.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Now I might just ship everything with it and whoever
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: else figures it out can join us. But yeah, yeah,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be a community dub right there. Title. Any
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: final thoughts for you before we get out of here.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: Man, good football game, Ravens Lions. Hopefully we see some
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: Shipping Nation logos up top.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Good luck, everybody, Yeah, that'd be the best hoop. Anything
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: else you got to add? My friend, you know you
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: hit your marketing first three dollars you'll ever spend if
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: you go sign up?
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: And no, good Let's let's get some winners tonight and
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: hopefully my lines don't get their ass kicked.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: All right, that's hopefully they do. And that's my everybody.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: Thank you guys for watching. This is a fun one
• 1:10:54
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