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- 0:08Good afternoon. It's Wednesday, the twenty ninth of May twenty twenty four,
- 0:11just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK Colin News. I'm your host Mike
- 0:14Robson. Joining me in the studio today is Charles Mallett. Welcome to the
- 0:17program, Charles, Mike, and from Damascus as usual is Vanessa Billy No,
- 0:23Vanessa. We're going to get started off with RAFA. We mentioned it
- 0:27briefly on Monday, but you've got the details. Yes, I'm sure everybody
- 0:33is well aware of what happened on Sunday night with the Israeli bombing of what
- 0:38was effectively a refugee camp close to the Honor UN Agency. So this is
- 0:46just a little video to recap for everyone, if we can just roll that,
- 1:00mh. I mean really, as the UN described that this was an
- 1:49abomination, and we've seen plenty of massacres in the last seven months inside Crosser
- 2:00even also in the occupied territories, but this game in the context, and
- 2:04I think this is one of the interesting points to make. So this bombardment
- 2:08was basically, as I said, an unrah area safe area. Supposedly the
- 2:15Canessa is the whole preliminary vote designating Unrah a terror organization after their absolutely fraudulent
- 2:23claim that members from US were working with Unrah from the seventh of October onwards,
- 2:30bearing in mind of course that Hamas is the official recognized government of Gards.
- 2:37Also it came at the time also or just after the ICJ International Criminal
- 2:44Court guards are ruling, Israel was ordered to halt its Rougher offensive open the
- 2:50Gaza Egypt crossing for aid, which has effectively been close since the seventh of
- 2:54October, thanks both to Israel and Egypt. And of course, at the
- 3:00same time as the ICC had put in a request for arrest warrants for Natamyahu.
- 3:07And you have Gallant. Now, I just want to play those not
- 3:10my favorite person, and I apologize for putting him out there again. But
- 3:15let's have a look at how the US basically refuses to say that even this
- 3:22massacre has not crossed any red line for human rights abuses and war crimes.
- 3:28So this is John Kirby speaking to reporters repeating believe that the US doesn't want
- 3:36to see a major ground operation in Rapa, but Israeli thing has just moved
- 3:39into central rap Up. How is that not major military at all again,
- 3:44I don't want to talk about Israeli defense force operations, but my understanding is,
- 3:49and I believe the Israelis have spoken to this, that they are moving
- 3:52along something called the Philadelphi Corridor, which is on the outskirts of the town,
- 3:57not in the town proper. That's what these Raelies have said. We
- 4:00don't want to see a major ground operation. We haven't seen that at this
- 4:03point. How many more charred corpses does he have to see before the president
- 4:12considers the change of problem. We don't want to see a single more innocent
- 4:15life taken. And I kind of take a little offense at the question.
- 4:19No civilian casualties is the right number of civilian casualties? And this is not
- 4:24something that we've turned a blind eye to, nor has it been something we've
- 4:27ignored or neglected to raise with our Israeli counterparts, including ED this weekend as
- 4:32a result of this particular strike, now they're investigating it. So let's let
- 4:36them investigate it and see what they come up with. Unfortunately, for Kabe,
- 4:45the headline in Jewish media, in Hebrew media, IDF thanks roll into
- 4:51Central Offer in an unprecedented thrust into the city. So either the information that
- 4:59he was given is wrong or yet again he's trying to blush details. Basically,
- 5:05reaction internationally was strong against massacre and ruffa from Spain, Norway, Ireland,
- 5:13as the Foreign Minister in Ireland said one count Balman area like that without
- 5:16shooing consequences in terms of innocent children and civilians. All of these countries are
- 5:24speaking about a Palestinian state. Personally, I think a two state solution is
- 5:31playing lip service to the Zionist entity and it should basically be up to Palestinians
- 5:39to be able to liberate the territories that have been taken from them by the
- 5:43occupying force, including territory that has been taken since the seventh of October.
- 5:47Even a member of the Israeli Knesse Tumaslyman, this bloody government refuses to obey
- 5:55all orders of the tribunal and is taking the madness and vindictiveness a new criminal
- 6:00level. What did Natania who have to say? Bearing in mind Kirby is
- 6:04waiting for the results of a war criminal nation investigation into its own war crimes.
- 6:13Netaniaho Rufa strike is a tragic accident. Will never cave to Hammers.
- 6:17While the un IS as they said, calling it the most cruel abomination as
- 6:23you weighed up the ideas of sanctions on Israel. But within twenty four hours
- 6:30having called Ruffa the first rough bombing and mistake, at least twenty one were
- 6:36built in Israeli attacks on tent camp near Gazaz Rauffa and again close to an
- 6:44unrash agency center and warehouse. And I just wanted to show this. This
- 6:49was from a Haretz article, so this was Rafa three April twenty twenty four.
- 6:59You can that the majority of the buildings are intact. And this is
- 7:03how Raffer looks now from a satellite image, so we can see the extent
- 7:10to which Israel has effectively destroyed this entire area, which was sold by Israel
- 7:15as being a safe area. And we shouldn't forget who has given Israel the
- 7:24grim light to carry out these massacres. Biden Sunak frond Len, who is
- 7:30facing an ICC prosecution for her complicity in genocide, and of course Heir Starmer.
- 7:39And when I went to Twitter, both Kara Stana and Richie Sooner to
- 7:44see what they had potentially said about this appalling massacre. Imagine that this has
- 7:49been an attack carried out by RuSHA against Ukraine, they would be all over
- 7:55Twitter in outrage. But in reality, on the very day that the attack
- 8:01was carried out, this is what she sooner was doing. Play the video.
- 8:31I'm not sure what to say at the end of that, but there
- 8:35you go. No, there's not really much to say, Vanessa. And
- 8:37of course these people are effectively enabling this, so playing bowls and playing at
- 8:46politics at this time. Well, I think that clearly, it seems to
- 8:50me that that this topic and the issue of what's going on Gaza is off
- 8:54the table as far as the election is concerned. I think that all you
- 8:58know, both sides of the at least the two main parties see this is
- 9:03a divisive issue and they don't want to go near it at election time.
- 9:07Yeah. Absolutely, but I think with demonstrations that have been going on since
- 9:11their rough massacre, they're going to be forced to confront the situation at some
- 9:16point. Yes, indeed, Okay, thank you very much for that.
- 9:20Now let's come back to the UK and at least initially anyway, Now,
- 9:26on Monday, we were talking about this issue of national service and if you
- 9:31remember, were drawing parallels with what Admirals to Tony Radigin had said earlier in
- 9:37the year with respect to conscription and not being in a traditional sense of the
- 9:43word, that they were using the term conscription back in January and whatnot.
- 9:46No, it's not just the UK at least not just the Tory party that's
- 9:52talking about this. This is something that's being talked about in other European countries
- 9:56as well. So here is how line. Italy's League party introduces bill to
- 10:01bring back compulsory military service. This is from the twenty second in May.
- 10:07Bill proposes six months of civil or military service for eighteen to twenty six year
- 10:11olds. It's not just Italy. In Germany, this is your active saying
- 10:15Germany mules reintroducing conscription. This one is from March this year. But actually
- 10:22Germany just in the last couple of days has been talking about pulling back from
- 10:26making it a compulsory thing. So Germany attempting to talk about it this in
- 10:30the same kind of language as the UK as being a voluntary sort of thing,
- 10:35at least initially. So this is the buddhistverh saying voluntary military service an
- 10:41opportunity, not an obligation. Security cannot be taken for granted, protecting Germany
- 10:46and its citizens is and wilbermain the central mission of the Bundhesvar. In the
- 10:50future, everyone can do their part to defend their values, which whose values?
- 10:54Because of course, the response to this, at least in the UK
- 11:00suspect further afield, has been another rejection of the entire idea. So I
- 11:05see, as far as I can see, on one hand, governments needing
- 11:09the personnel because they're clearly on the war footing now and they see the need
- 11:13in the not to distant future four people at a time, particularly in the
- 11:16UK, as we mentioned on Monday, where there is a complete inability to
- 11:22recruit for the military, so they're trying to force people into it, but
- 11:26nonetheless at least initially talking about it being a voluntary thing. In the meantime,
- 11:33what do we have going on? Well, a few days ago in
- 11:35the Economist, the economists that have viewed Jan Stoltenberg, Sectary General of Niedle,
- 11:41and if you want to see the full interview, it's headline NATO's boss
- 11:45wants free to free Ukraine and strike hard inside Russia. And let's just look
- 11:48at the complete insanity of what he's saying here the time has come for Allies
- 11:54to consider whether they should lift some of the restrictions they've put on the use
- 11:56of weapons that they have donated to you Ukraine, especially now when a lot
- 12:03of the fighting is going on in Kharkave close to the border to deny Ukraine.
- 12:07The possibility of using these weapons against legitimate military targets on Russian territory makes
- 12:11it very hard for them to defend themselves. So openly calling for Western weapons
- 12:18to be used across the border in Russia. This is a direct attack therefore
- 12:22on Russia, and Russia is very clear in its military doctrine about what happens
- 12:28in retaliation should that kind of thing take place. But it's not just Doltenberg.
- 12:35This is the Russian Parliamentary Assembly pushing out a press release yesterday and they're
- 12:41saying in this Ukraine must be provided with all that it needs as quickly as
- 12:46possible and for as long as it takes for it to win. It went
- 12:50on to say that Allied governments, so called Allied governments need to support Ukraine
- 12:54and its international right through defend itself by lifting some restrictions on the use of
- 12:58weapons provided by natowhil to strike legitimate targets in Russia, and this is something
- 13:05that they describe as a hard hitting declaration. So, of course the response
- 13:09from Russia if we just put that back a second. So here's the response
- 13:13from Russia. This is Sergei Lavrov. I doubt that the Secretary General can
- 13:18take it upon himself to speak on behalf of members of the bloc before the
- 13:20issues discussed within NATTO. Well, it seems based on this Parliamentary Assembly press
- 13:26release, it has been at least to some degree discussed within NATO. He
- 13:30went on to say, I believe that Stottenburg has stepped outside of his authority.
- 13:33I think that may be true. This is Dimitri Peskov and his response.
- 13:39This cannot be his personal opinion. He is an official. He is
- 13:43a Secretary General of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, and that's how we perceive
- 13:46it. He went on to say, NATO is increasing the degree of escalation,
- 13:50NATO is flirting with warlike rhetoric, falling into wartime ecstasy. This is
- 13:56the reality that we have to continue to deal with. I think that's an
- 14:00unfair position. What are your thoughts, No, I don't think it's an
- 14:03unfair position at all, And I think you know, this entire narrative is
- 14:09crafting of an emergency, specifically with regard to the suggestion here of national service.
- 14:13It's often said that people forget their history. I think in a sense
- 14:16that politicians haven't, although they have no regard for practical delivery troubles because of
- 14:22course, the armed forces were enormous. I mean, you know, millions
- 14:26of men last time this was tried. But what people forget is how quickly
- 14:30it was done. In Military Training Act in nineteen thirty nine, happened before
- 14:33the war started. It was in May, two hundred and forty thousand people
- 14:37signed up immediately, and then when war was declared in September, the National
- 14:41Service Act came into effect that day. So I think people would do well
- 14:46to bear in mind how quickly these things can be changed. Yeah, it's
- 14:50the unfortunate thing is that should there be a complete rejection of the idea,
- 14:56they don't have the prison spaces to put people in so at this point in
- 14:58time, so it's a tracking situation for them. Better. It's not just
- 15:01Neto. So here's Joseph Perell, the form of so called Foreign Minister of
- 15:09the European Commission. Let's listen to this. We discuss also about something which
- 15:16has been high in the media and the Secretary General of Nature referring to it.
- 15:24It is the possibility of lifting restrictions on Western weapons used by Ukrainian forces
- 15:31to target military objectives in Russia territory in self defense. But in Russian territory.
- 15:39It's clear that this is a legitimate action on the international law when it
- 15:46is being used in a proportional manner. But it's also clear that it is
- 15:52a decision for each individual member states to take and to take their responsibility on
- 15:58doing debt or not. So Vanessa, very very briefly, I realize I'm
- 16:06hijacking a little bit here, but he is now claiming that this would be
- 16:08a legitimate action under international law. We're going to come on to the so
- 16:12called rules based international order in a minute. But this is just it's a
- 16:17perversion of international law. Well, of course it is. You know,
- 16:22everything that the West is doing and NATO is doing right now is a distortion
- 16:26of international law that is being bent out of shape in order to comply with
- 16:30their agendas. Whether it's Israel, whether it's Ukraine, China, International law
- 16:38is effectively non existent to the West. Yeah, indeed, so we're going
- 16:42to come on a little bit more in a second on that, but just
- 16:45to mention again, Rogers here reporting that the Ukrainians at least believe that the
- 16:49French are going to send boots on the ground for training in order to train
- 16:56personnel in Ukraine, so not to go to the front lines claim. But
- 17:00anyway, the French them still still trying to pull back from this position,
- 17:06but that seems to be increasingly. Let's come on to the international law aspect
- 17:11of this, because there's an article that was published in the Financial Times by
- 17:15Gideon Rackman, and it's really quite incredible because he's effectively admitting that the rules
- 17:22based international order is basically whatever Britain in the United States decides as it is.
- 17:26And he basically says that because it's really something that's mutable and can be
- 17:33changed and whatnot, it's just abandoned the term rules based international order completely and
- 17:37instead use a completely different term and something which is really just about protecting the
- 17:47West or some nonsense like this. So defending the free world, that's what
- 17:52it was. So that was what he was trying to do. So we
- 17:55need to rebrand and make it defending the free world. In the meantime,
- 18:00Zelenski has been in Europe, in Spin in particular, but he's mostly concerned
- 18:03about the fact that there's going to be a so called peace conference in Switzerland
- 18:08in a few days time, and President Biden might not be there because President
- 18:12Biden is also campaigning and he's apparently running a fundraising event or so on.
- 18:19But of course Russia hasn't been invited to this peace conference, and so it's
- 18:25not a peace conference at all. It's much more about organizing the war effort
- 18:30and so on, is how it seems. But he's unhappy that Biden might
- 18:34not be there because of electrical commitments. If anybody thinks, of course,
- 18:40that getting rid of Sunak is going to get rid of the war agenda and
- 18:42that Starmer is going to be better, I'm sure, pretty sure not of
- 18:48our viewers think that. But anyway, just in case you do, let's
- 18:51just remind ourselves what Starmer's attitude was during the COVID pandemic, and you can
- 18:56decide for yourself whether he's prepared to take a sort of opposition stance anti vaxxers
- 19:03getting platforms and so on, Well, we have to deal with the anti
- 19:07vax campaigns because they will cost lives, and if we need to pass emergency
- 19:11legislation to deal with them, I'd be quite prepared to work with the government
- 19:15on that. We could pass it in a couple of days in Parliament,
- 19:18and the sooner we do that, frankly, the better because for many an
- 19:22HS staff it is really distressing. They're under huge pressure and it's been building
- 19:27over the last few weeks and months. They're all doing their level best,
- 19:30they're all seeing that it's getting very very difficult and to come out and to
- 19:36have to confront that or even hear that is against the national interest. And
- 19:41if we need legislation that, I'll sit down with Boris Johnson. We can
- 19:45draft it, we can pass it very very quickly because that misinformation. So
- 19:49there you go quite clearly. At that time he was quite happy to be
- 19:52a member of the UNI Party, and I suspect that nothing has changed there.
- 19:56We're going to get the same kind of nonsense. So look, here's
- 20:00my point. This is where we're heading unless we change TAC And this isn't
- 20:04to scare anybody, but we've got to be realistic about the kind of lunatics
- 20:10that we have running the asylum at the moment, and we need a change,
- 20:15and so I want to really strongly urge people to get involved in this
- 20:18general election and get these fools out because there's nobody from any of the mainstream
- 20:23parties that is actually taking a pro peace position at the moment and the direction
- 20:30to travel is extremely dangerous. But anyway extremism, that might be an extremist
- 20:37view, you see. So we've talked about extremism and the new definition of
- 20:41extremism, which Charles is going to mention again in the second but there's been
- 20:42an update on this, Thanks very much, Mike. Yes. Essentially the
- 20:48continued reframing of extremism, most recently updated last week in the House of Commons
- 20:55with the Land for Parliament of Lord Walney's report on what called protecting our Democracy
- 21:02from Coercion. The then Minister for Security, Tom Tuganad, from whom we've
- 21:06heard a lot on this issue, talked about it being a timely and compelling
- 21:10report identifying a rising tide of extremism, and its central finding is that political
- 21:15intimidation and the incitement of hatred by extremist groups and individuals are infringing on the
- 21:21essential rights and freedoms of the British people. So we'll have a look into
- 21:26the report itself. Here it is protecting our democracy from coercion, and he
- 21:30starts with a forward talking about the elected representatives facing violent threats on a daily
- 21:37basis and intimidation. Slightly surprisingly or maybe not, he refers to noble causes
- 21:42such as the battle against climate change being hijacked by extremist groups, and at
- 21:48the same time hostile states have been emboldened, so he's very much conflating the
- 21:53apparent sort of risks and threats within and without the country. I've compiled a
- 21:59sort of score cogs. You might be interested to know what topics turn up
- 22:03more frequently than others. Perhaps far right top of the pops with one hundred
- 22:07and seventy one, Far left only one hundred and fifty four, Transgender Black
- 22:11Lives Matter, anti vax climate change, anti Semitism a fairly high score with
- 22:15one hundred and three, and of course nationalism whis crept in as being guarded
- 22:21now as a sort of criminal offense. But he also makes recommendations, and
- 22:26I think this one's particularly telling, Specifically Left wing, anarchist, and single
- 22:30issue threats to provide ideological coherence to the categories and add the word extreme to
- 22:36avoid unintentionally conflating mainstream left wing views with the far left. Now, of
- 22:41course that the far right has not been afforded the same privilege or indeed the
- 22:45right also a recommendation for MI five and counter Terrorism to publish information specifically to
- 22:55allow researchers, journalists, and the wider public to track, report on,
- 23:00and better understand the threat from failed terrorist attempts. Now, my question is
- 23:04what sort of researchers, journalists, and wider public, because I would doubt
- 23:10that it includes absolutely everybody. And as Mike said, the definition of extremism
- 23:15which is enabling all of this narrative to be put forward, but just to
- 23:18remind you, it's now defined as the promotion or advancement of an ideology based
- 23:22on violent hatred or intolerance that aims to negate or destroy the fundamental rights and
- 23:27freedoms of others, or undermine, overturn, or replace the UK system of
- 23:32liberal parliamentary democracy and democratic rights, or to create the environment where either of
- 23:37those things is possible. Now, the point of that is really what it's
- 23:41doing is shifting the ground in order to demonize people and describe them as being
- 23:45intolerant or full of hatred. And the shift here, as I say,
- 23:49is described as being the threat from extremism has been steadily growing for many years.
- 23:53So it's this idea that this is getting worse and worse. But also
- 23:57he goes on to say, this is inline the first duty of our government
- 24:00to keep our citizens safe and our country secure. Most extremist materials and activities
- 24:06are not illegal and do not meet a terrorism or national security threshold. I
- 24:11think that's a very important point, but of course lost over and I simply
- 24:14finished by with the quote attributed to the Code of Hammuravi from seventeen seventy two
- 24:19BC, in actual fact, saying that the first duty of government is protect
- 24:23the powerless from the powerful, which is quite a significant diversion from what Walney
- 24:29has suggested. And if you want to know where this comes from and indeed
- 24:32why we're on this path, we look at the document Operating with Impunity,
- 24:37which is reference. This goes back to February twenty twenty one and Sammart Rowley,
- 24:41the Metropolitan Police Commissioner involved in putting that together, in which he said,
- 24:48my last role in policing was a national responsibility leading counter terrorism policing.
- 24:52During those years, I saw terrorism and extremism transforming terrorism more from small secret
- 24:59organizations, the terrorism inspired and encouraged viars social media, something we've talked about
- 25:03a lot in the past. Terroristly to split their efforts between the long established
- 25:07tactic of planning large scale events and the new tactic of spreading their ideology online
- 25:12and through their agents to grow support and use this outreach to inspire some of
- 25:17their new followers into loan actor attacks. So it looks like that in order
- 25:22to cement this seed in people's heads, there are going to need to be
- 25:26loan actors found around Who's next? This sort of accusation can be hung.
- 25:33But this to just to make the point that this was rarely in twenty twenty
- 25:37one. Of course, he was appointed Metropolitan Police Commissioner in twenty twenty two,
- 25:41and I would put it that this is a very obvious reason for why
- 25:44that's why he was put in the job. Okay, if you like what
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- 26:52on. So also at the weekend or sorry on the weekend of during the
- 26:56second of twenty twenty four, if you would like to head over to Glasgow
- 27:03if you're in Scotland and there's going to be an event there for the vaccine
- 27:07injured, So please do visit that if you possibly can. And of course
- 27:11Charles on Monday you were traveling back from the stand and the light event,
- 27:15Yes, go through driving rain. But the festival itself was a great success,
- 27:19and so just to feedback, I think that the sense of delight at
- 27:23being able to encounter people face to face and share broadly similar views was really
- 27:29appreciated by everybody that turned up. UK Column had a stand there which i'll
- 27:33just show you see brand sort of surrounded by people who were very generous in
- 27:38their words and coming up to engage with us at UK Colin also a great
- 27:44opportunity for Kenny and Claire there to sell a good quantity of very special merchandise.
- 27:51But really just an encouragement to people to get out to these sorts of
- 27:53events because they're very very good natured. They're a great way of re engaging
- 27:59and in countering people with similar things to you know, to push the things
- 28:02forward that you can most about in life. So it's a real success,
- 28:04very well organized, absolutely beautiful countryside and there are about twelve about twelve undred
- 28:10people there, I think, Yeah, it was a lovely it was a
- 28:11really good size too, yeah, brilliant. Okay. Now, on Monday
- 28:15we were discussing the launch of the World Health Assembly, and well, one
- 28:19of the video clips that Mark Anderson showed was this one. Let's just have
- 28:23a look at it again. Also at the Assembly, WHO will be launching
- 28:30a new Global Health Strategy, developed in partnership with one hundred and ninety four
- 28:37member states and partners, which sets a course for getting the world back on
- 28:41track to hit the health related sustainable development goals. Crucial decisions are expected on
- 28:48a range of health priorities such as climate and health, who's work in health
- 28:53emergencies, access to transformative tools, communicabilities, uncommon abilities, is mental health,
- 29:02women's health, and the reform of WHO itself. On six May,
- 29:08WHO will be launching our first Investment Round, a new mechanism for WHO which
- 29:15the Executive Board approved in January. The Investment Round is designed to ensure that
- 29:22voluntary contributions, which are currently the majority of our funding, will be more
- 29:29predictable, flexible and sustainable. Our a new investment case outlines why and how
- 29:36supporting WHO is essential for progress in global health and saving millions of lives.
- 29:44It will be launched on twenty eight May. During the Assembly and the day
- 29:51it was launched yesterday, and here is the first graphic that they want to
- 29:56show. We're not sure what kind of salute that is they're giving, but
- 30:00what the World Health Organization will deliver between twenty twenty five and twenty twenty eight.
- 30:04So this is all about working with existing donors and other partners. They
- 30:08are calling it an investment run, so it's like a venture capital kind of
- 30:12thing that they're attempting to sell it as here and it aims to attract new
- 30:18donors through an inclusive, inclusive engagement process, will culminate in a high level
- 30:22financing event in the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four. So let's just look
- 30:26at what they're doing. So forty million additional lives save globally. This is
- 30:30our elevator pitch that you're saying right now, by the way, because this
- 30:33is what you know. It's like dragons Den. So they're attempting to sell
- 30:37this to investors. What else did they say? Seven billion people protect better
- 30:41protected from health emergencies. This is the World Health organizations doing this. It's
- 30:45fantastic work. It deserves massive investment. Six billion people enable to live healthier
- 30:51lives. They claim and five billion people able to access health services without financial
- 30:56hardship. But they had produced in the actual report a nice little infographic which
- 31:03tells us what the funding gap is that they have between twenty twenty five and
- 31:07twenty twenty eight. So there's seven point one billion dollars short of what they
- 31:11need. And I would say that there's an opportunity for a campaign that they
- 31:15to make sure that they remain seven point one billion dollars short of their with
- 31:21respect to their funding. And well, what more can we say. We're
- 31:26gonna have James Rogowski with us on Friday's program to give us a full update
- 31:30of what's been going on this week at the World Health Assembly, So join
- 31:33us for that on Friday. Now. In the meantime, Ivian Flew Charles
- 31:40Yes, yes again, but this time there is rather more to talk about,
- 31:44I think, because what we see is the slow march towards a well
- 31:48choreographed move into the creation of a pandemic. And I will just go through
- 31:55this sort of step by step. This morning, the Human Animal Infections and
- 32:00Risk Surveillance Group, part of the UK Health Security Agency, published a document
- 32:06called Avian Influenza in Livestock the risk statement. Now I'm not going to go
- 32:10through the specific details of it, but the point is that you put the
- 32:14suggestion out there that there is a defined risk or threat, and you allow
- 32:19that information to circulate whilst admitting at the same time that there are evidence gaps.
- 32:23So they admit that the source of infection to the index farm is a
- 32:27gap of gap in evidence, so is the severity of clinical signs, critically
- 32:32the risk to other ruminants and mammalian livestock. And also there's uncertainty around the
- 32:37transmission risks to humans in contact with affected cattle, risk factors associated with increased
- 32:43susceptibility and disease severity in human cases. So they're putting it all out there,
- 32:46but of course the headline really is that there is a risk or a
- 32:50threat. Now where is that coming from. The UKHSA put out of extraordinary
- 32:53graphic suggesting that birdfoo in Europe seems to becoming from Russia, but of course
- 33:00they don't substantiate that even at all. Russia is not actually referred to.
- 33:05And yet here we are now also from last month avian influenza in US cattle,
- 33:12of course, suggesting therefore that this could be anywhere. So here we
- 33:15go Birdley for chaios. We're monitoring reports of highly pathogenic influenza identified in dairy
- 33:21cattle. We'll come on to exactly how it was identified later. These reports
- 33:24do not change the risk level for animals in the UK, which is currently
- 33:28low, and we have no reason to suspect the virus is circulating in our
- 33:31cattle, not for now at least, and nor is this virus strain circulating
- 33:36in Europe. So the food standardency remaining vice remains that avian influenz op poses
- 33:40a very low food safety risk, But of course that doesn't matter because if
- 33:45the food has tested for it, then it will be destroyed and will not
- 33:51be fit for human consumption, because that's what they say. So that's the
- 33:53first bit. You put that sort of information out there, and then you
- 33:57need a willing media to effectively corroborate the suggestion that there is going to be
- 34:04a pandemic coming to here we have BBC obliging, and of course their question
- 34:08is corries in the US of bird flu is it inching closer to humans?
- 34:13And they are of course desperate, but it should be despite the absolute absence
- 34:15of evidence, And here written up as the long feared leap. The H
- 34:20five N one strain of avian flu has been around since nineteen ninety six.
- 34:22Well that's very much a qualified statement. But until now it has been largely
- 34:27confined to animals. But now it's jumped to cattle in America, and some
- 34:30think it means we're inching towards eventual human to human infection with potentially serious consequences.
- 34:35I should point out this article was written by somebody called David Ironovitch who
- 34:38has absolutely no background in science, medicine or anything to do with animals.
- 34:45Anyway. The next thing is, of course to be prepared for the outcomes,
- 34:49and here we have the Animal Welfare Commission reporting just last week on the
- 34:52use of high expansion nitrogen foam for cling poultry. Is effectively where you just
- 34:57fill poultry sets with nitrogen f in order to starve them of air with which
- 35:02to breathe. This hasn't been used on a large scale before, but nonetheless
- 35:07they're putting forward this as an idea for disposing of all the poultry that will
- 35:10be disposed of later this year. Now, these are the conditions that are
- 35:14being set in the UK, and of course these things don't always necessarily move
- 35:16at the same pace. So to highlight the difference, what I thought we'd
- 35:21do is take a look at New Zealand, which had an extraordinary and raconian
- 35:24response to the apparent pandemic in New Zealand in twenty twenty. But of course,
- 35:31here interestingly they say that you do not need a license if you want
- 35:35to keep animals in a rural area. So they are behind the UK,
- 35:38and the reason for that is that their Ministry for Primary Industry is declares that
- 35:42New Zealand has never had a case of highly pathogenic on avian influenza. Nonetheless,
- 35:49the Department of Health has within its page it's highly pathogenic avian influenza and
- 35:54believe it or not they state. At the moment this chapter is currently under
- 35:59review. As of April twenty twenty four, the guidance is being updated.
- 36:02In the event of a case of HPIA occurring sorry AAR occurring ahead of publication
- 36:08of the device guidance, interim guidance will be communicated to public health services.
- 36:13So here we have a country that has never ever declared that it's had a
- 36:16case of avlo and influenza updating its literature based on what's happening around the world.
- 36:22This is almost exactly the same as what happened at the Tailand in twenty
- 36:25nineteen, twenty twenty, and it's frankly, it's just only a matter of
- 36:30time. And of course the only thing they're basing is on was what was
- 36:35reported on UK column some months ago, which was the apparent discovery of bird
- 36:37flu in elephant seals in South Atlantic and that is what they're basing this on.
- 36:44Nonetheless, the next step, of course, having confirmed that it's possible
- 36:47to jump from one animal to another, is to suggest that people are also
- 36:51at risk. And here we've got the CDC in America talking about monitoring influenza
- 36:54data to better understand the current avian influenza situation in people, updated May the
- 37:00twenty fourth, twenty twenty four. So here we are moving into lockstep.
- 37:04And how do they do this. They do this by talking about testing.
- 37:07And this goes back to twenty twenty three where in the UK we were told
- 37:10that it had been detected in two individuals, but when we scrutinize the detail
- 37:15of it, we found it wanting. The two people returning positive tests are
- 37:17known to have recently worked on an infected poultry farm in England. Well,
- 37:22what does that mean? Neither has experienced any symptoms of avian influenza and both
- 37:27have since tested negative detection of avian influenza and poultry workers can follow contamination of
- 37:31the nose and throat from breathing in material on the affected farm, or can
- 37:36be true infection. So already they're admitting they have absolutely no idea what they're
- 37:39talking about, and they finished by saying it can be difficult to distinguish these
- 37:43in people who have no symptoms. So just think about that for a moment
- 37:49and consider that the tests use. The PCR test cannot, in the words
- 37:53of carry malice its inventor, be used as a diagnostic tool. It cannot
- 37:59tell you whether or not the thing it's detecting has come from another animal,
- 38:04or whether it's going to result in illness, So that needs to be considered.
- 38:08But of course the direction of travel therefore is towards vaccines, and they
- 38:13have all bases covered here. So first of all, we look at the
- 38:15pen Medicine news talking about PEN researchers developing an experimental mRNA avian flu vaccine.
- 38:22Well, I think this is again beginning to sound very very familiar, and
- 38:24look at the date May twenty third, So this is all being brought out
- 38:28exactly the same time. And this is again based on the assumption that everybody
- 38:32will pick up the narrative that an illness that is only determined in a laboratory
- 38:38and ascribed to poultry can infect other animals and therefore humans. That is the
- 38:45basis of this And now another chance to use UKC verify, because just yesterday
- 38:53Reuter's and many many other news agencies put out news or apparent news that bird
- 38:59flu vacaccines for laying hends prove effective in practice. They go on to say
- 39:04the Dutch government has implemented the use of a particular vaccine that they're going to
- 39:09roll it out across some their poultry population because it's been proven to be effective
- 39:15on farms. Now this is not true. We see here the particular university
- 39:20in question and they talk about two vaccines being effective against berdfick. This is
- 39:23from September twenty twenty three, and their laboratory tests, which I think we
- 39:28can safely say we're compromised to say the least suggests that it's been effective.
- 39:31But in actual fact, what they say quite clearly here is the trial on
- 39:36the two farms will last until the third quarter of twenty twenty five, so
- 39:40there's absolutely no way it's possible to say whether or not there is any sort
- 39:46of effectiveness or efficacy of this vaccine in this instance. And of course this
- 39:52again should reinforce the message that the premise that avian flu exists in the first
- 39:58place is the construct of laboratory experiments and of course culturing of samples, which
- 40:05is not possible to do in the field. And just to finish off,
- 40:07they say first results are expected in the second quarter of twenty twenty four.
- 40:10Of course, is where we are now. But the point is that we're
- 40:15seeing this play out in slow time and it is effectively a complete rehash of
- 40:19the COVID narrative, and it's going in exactly the same direction, and the
- 40:22consequences will be almost identical if it's not stopped in its tracks. Yes,
- 40:28thank you, Charles, Okay, Vanessa, back to you, And what's
- 40:31the let us on the rapid crossing. I just wanted to mention on that
- 40:37report about the bread flu. Also, doesn't that result in contaminated or backs
- 40:43in contaminated meat, eggs, et? Cetera. Anyway, we can talk
- 40:46about that in extra Yeah, this was a just an odd story that sort
- 40:53of jumped out at me. Biden officials are in talks with an EU group
- 40:59help re and the Rafa crossing, which is currently controlled by effectively Israel and
- 41:05Egypt. So the US is proposing bringing in a so called mutual third party
- 41:09to take control of the crossing. The European Union Border Assistant Mission or UBAM
- 41:16to the Rafa crossing point. The organization previously worked at the border in Gaza,
- 41:22but suspended its operations in two thousand and seven after Hamastokova. The EU
- 41:28Border Assistants didn't comment. Representatives with the EU Commission also did not respond.
- 41:36It's an EU funded organization in partnership with the International Organization for Migration, so
- 41:45I just wanted to have it. So I basically went to the UBAN site
- 41:52and let's have a look at its kind of mission statement on the website.
- 41:58On the next slide, what do we do? Who are we? So
- 42:01basically its head offices are in Odessa, in Ukraine and in Moldova. It
- 42:09basically monitors the borders between Moldova and Ukraine. It seems to be a sort
- 42:15of quasy military security organization just from looking through its various press releases, and
- 42:24I guess what I really want to do is to put the question out to
- 42:28the audience, because obviously this is about bringing in EU control into Gaza,
- 42:35into the border itself. The connection to Ukraine, the connection between Ukraine and
- 42:39Israel has also been talked about consistently. But why now and why this particular
- 42:49organization, Although it has a history of having been at the Rafa crossing,
- 42:52it was established in two thousand and five, it was at the Rapa crossing
- 42:57until, as they said, the Zionist settlers and courters withdrew in two thousand
- 43:04and five from US was elected in two thousand and seven. So if anybody
- 43:09has any bright ideas why this organization in particular, not, as far as
- 43:15I can see, funded by the US, funded specifically by the EU,
- 43:21and it has actually been held on a retainer of two point six million.
- 43:25So sorry, no, no, that was I was just going to make
- 43:30that point. They've been held on this retainer to do nothing on two point
- 43:34six year exactly. They're funding one side in June this year and then they've
- 43:39got to get a new trans of funding and so this annoine sense wea just
- 43:43in time for that UTRANs of funding. Perhaps yes, possibly, yes,
- 43:50you could be right, but but then why are we funding it for that
- 43:52purpose? Of course, this could be related to basically the distruction of the
- 43:59three hundred twenty million US peer if we just have a look at the video,
- 44:22Manion, So dare I say American build quality? I think at least
- 44:39two ships were washed upshore and are currently under repair. But yeah, just
- 44:45anybody has any comments on that story, please let me know or let UK
- 44:50column know. Yeah, brilliant, Thank you, Vanessa and Charles. Back
- 44:53to you then. On energy energy, Yea's something we've talked about in conjunction
- 44:59with foods Care quite a bit over the last few months. But I just
- 45:02want to look quickly at the energy trends, or at least the way that
- 45:06we're being told the energy trends are playing out. So the most recent report
- 45:09from the tail end of last year says that total demand has been down for
- 45:14twenty twenty three. The renewable share is at a record of forty seven point
- 45:17three. But will come on to explain exactly why that may not be the
- 45:21case. Win generation. They're saying is at twenty eight point seven percent.
- 45:24Overall electricity generation down eleven percent, the lowess since nineteen eighty three, and
- 45:29fossil fuel generation down twenty two percent, lowess since the nineteen fifties. Now,
- 45:34I'll explain what I mean when I say that things are not quite as
- 45:37they seem. Here we see what I've described as the cooking the book's feature,
- 45:42which is that the increase of one hundred and fifteen percent import of electricity
- 45:47for that quarter has skewed the statistics absolutely dramatically, which is the only reason
- 45:52that they're able to claim that renewable energy has made such a contribution. But
- 45:58of course we sing the same drum about the wind not blowing all the time,
- 46:01the sun not shining all the time, because of course they have to
- 46:05go on and qualify it by saying, with the exception of twenty twenty one,
- 46:07renewable generation has been largely stable. Now, that's in itself an admission,
- 46:13because the amount of renewable generation facility or capability has increased dramatically in that
- 46:19time, and yet the output has remained the same. So the vulnerability is
- 46:22enormous. Anyway, they talk about the drivers of changes in the generation being
- 46:25complex for renewables, but of course they are with the impact of new capacity
- 46:30interacting with variable weather conditions. I mean, the suggestion is that perhaps they'd
- 46:34imagine the weather would not have variable conditions. And we go on to see
- 46:37this in a graph format. The arrow that I've inserted that the red arrow
- 46:42show the solar generation, and of course everything coming down below the line is
- 46:45a decrease. And we've talked a lot about the amount of farmland that's being
- 46:50used for the construction of these enormous great solar farms, and yet of course
- 46:53the output is actually going down at the same time the capability is going up,
- 46:57so it's completely topxy derby. Nonetheless, the ESO, the part of
- 47:02the national grid that's due to operate the system's electricity system operator, has put
- 47:07out future energy scenarios in which they're trying to work out how we're going to
- 47:10do something towards find incredible ways that the UK can achieve net zero by twenty
- 47:16fifty. And it won't surprise you much. I shouldn't think to learn that
- 47:20it's largely based on research and modeling, when of course it is because we're
- 47:22not there yet. They use what they call the scenario framework, which has
- 47:29some variables, the worst of which they're calling falling short and the scenario not
- 47:34meeting the net aerio target by twenty fifty. And it's just interesting to specifically
- 47:37see what I've underlined there. The electric vehicle take up grows more slowly.
- 47:40Well, I think that does seem to be exactly what is happening. So
- 47:45this is already presumably way off course. We've got at the other side of
- 47:49it consumer transformation, and this is the behavioral change part. So the net
- 47:52aero target is met with measures that have a greater impact on consumers and is
- 47:57driven by higher levels of consumer engagement, by which they mean behavioral modification.
- 48:00They will have made extensive changes to improve their home's energy efficiency, and most
- 48:05of their electricity demand will be smartly controlled to provide flexibility to the system.
- 48:09Yes, but will they have chosen that for themselves or will it have been
- 48:13chosen for them? So just to highlight what they're wanting to do here,
- 48:15the projected to increase in annual demand by the year twenty fifty is two hundred
- 48:20and fifty four percent, So they're wanting to move from two hundred and eighty
- 48:22six terra what hours of electricity generated now up to seven hundred and twenty six.
- 48:27And bear in mind what I've just said about renewables, which seems to
- 48:29be the direction they want to go, that looks extremely unlikely. They do
- 48:32talk about large electricity demands, and in particular they highlight hydrogen electrolysis, which
- 48:37is effectually unproven. Nonetheless, they refer to it as being an emerging technique
- 48:43that, if commercially developed, could provide one of the following And I have
- 48:47to say it doesn't necessarily sound like the best bet. It could provide a
- 48:51higher level of general protection for the environment, or at least the same level,
- 48:54So again not particularly convincing. But I just had a look elsewhere in
- 49:00private sector. I found a company called Recharge, which say that it's much
- 49:04cheaper to produce green hydrogen from waste than renewable So tellingly, the chief executive
- 49:08here, Jean Louis Kindler, in twenty twenty, talks about creating hydrogen but
- 49:13without using the vast space that solar panels require. So again sort of finding
- 49:19some sense of it somewhere, but certainly not from the ESO or in the
- 49:22British government. But data center is really what I want to talk about a
- 49:27little bit, because of the push towards the fourth Industrial revolutionary in fact everything
- 49:31is controlled by the Internet. It's worth noting that data centers now consume about
- 49:36two and a half percent of UK energy, which is an enormous figure,
- 49:40and because they run around the clock, it's possible that they might waste up
- 49:44to ninety percent of the energy that they actually consume. Forty percent of that
- 49:47energy is just spent in cooling the various machinery required for in these data centers.
- 49:55UK has the largest data capacity in Europe, and just to give an
- 49:58indication of the exponential rise, it's said that there were two point eight zetabytes
- 50:04of data in the world in twenty twelve and at the last count in twenty
- 50:07twenty there were forty four zetabytes. So it's very very unlikely that this can
- 50:12be managed on the current projections. But what I want to point out,
- 50:15going back to the framework that they're putting out, is the effectively the push
- 50:22required so societal behavior and the growth of remote services to faciliitate hybrid working because
- 50:28of the COVID nineteen pandemics. So it's just another thing to look at is
- 50:30now the use of electricity, and of course the point again the second bit
- 50:36of highlighted text people being first instructed to work from home. So the suggestion
- 50:40is that people are doing this because they want to be doing it, and
- 50:43the reality is, in actual fact they're just being told to do it.
- 50:45But again we just finish off because everything now is about data and electronic systems.
- 50:52The Bank of England, of course, working on their CBDC, are
- 50:55very keen to put forward the case that's centrally controlled digital currencies are better for
- 51:00the environment, and in fact they're ticking the climate box because they're going to
- 51:05be energy efficient, whereas decentralized ones are bad and not not good for the
- 51:09environment. So they talk about it minimizing its impact on the environment and the
- 51:14physical effects of climate change and the transition to a netear economy can create financial
- 51:19risks and economic consequences. So that's again a telling statement that really should be
- 51:23applied to the idea that digital currency centralized digital currency has anything to offer at
- 51:30all. Yes, thanks for that, Charles and Vanessa back to you for
- 51:35one more time. In this used build and Egyptian Israel having problems, Yeah,
- 51:44a couple of days ago, there was basically a squamish as it's described
- 51:47here bile Myiadene on the raft for border, during which at least one Egyptian
- 51:54soldier was shot and killed. And if we just have a look at the
- 52:00reports, so Israeli investigations disagree with the Egyptian armed forces. Basically, Israeli
- 52:07sources report that Egyptian soldiers opened fire. Egyptian soldiers are of course saying that
- 52:14Israel basically targeted I think one of their watchtowers. There were reports today and
- 52:19Al Akbar is saying that both Egypt and Israel have agreed to basically defuse the
- 52:24situation and any inquiry, the results of which are going to be kept confidential
- 52:32so as not to inflame particularly an Egyptian public that is already pretty much up
- 52:38in arms against Egypt's role in facilitating the genocide and the blockade of Palestinians in
- 52:46Gaza. In fact, the Egyptian Nasaust Party, which to a degree reflects
- 52:52much of the population's opinions on Palestine, calls for the cancelation of the Camp
- 52:58David and Cord signed by Presidents Adat in seventy nine, which was effectively egypt
- 53:05normalization process with Israel. So let's have a look at what they're talking about.
- 53:09So they're saying severing all ties with the Israeli regime, canceling all treaties,
- 53:15foremost of which are the shapeful Camp David Accords and peace agreements, and
- 53:21that of course includes the Philadelphia Coords signed in two thousand and five that gives
- 53:25Israel some control of the Rafa border, providing all forms of support to the
- 53:31valiant Palestinian resistance, asserting Egypt sovereign rights over the Rafa border, crossing by
- 53:37opening it for humanitarian aid and the transfer of injured people without coordination with the
- 53:44Israeli regime, lifting the security restrictions imposed on the citizens, and releasing the
- 53:50prisoners of conscience, especially those detained due to their participation in pro Palestine protests,
- 53:59supporting pagns, boycotting the companies and products affiliated with the Israeli regime.
- 54:06The movement also affirmed the right of the Egyptian and Arab people to utilize all
- 54:09means and methods of expression in support of the Palestinian people. Now. Interestingly,
- 54:15today in China and Beijing, there is the Arab State Summit Heads of
- 54:22Egypt, Bahrain, Tunisia and UAE to attend Cooperation Forum in Beijing during state
- 54:29visits to China. Basically again, Saudi Arabian Bahrain are floating the idea of
- 54:36the two state solution. I've given my opinion on that, but I think
- 54:42really despite the rhetoric that we're hearing, this may be a potential opportunity for
- 54:49China to try and bring some of these states on board and away from the
- 54:54US and normalization with Israel. That's the hope. It remains to be seen.
- 55:00I think it's going to be extremely difficult with Egypt, who's you know,
- 55:05completely in hock to the IMF and to Saudi Arabia, UAE and to
- 55:09Israel to a large extent. Yes, Okay, thank you very much for
- 55:15that, Vanessa. Now let's just bring UKC Verify back on screen again because
- 55:22this was published in the BBC this morning. It's another bided the cherry of
- 55:28the Singapore Airlines plane which experienced extreme turbulence a few days ago. Tragically,
- 55:35a British man passed away as a result of this, and his wife and
- 55:38a number of other people injured in it. But never let the cynical British
- 55:43media, you know, take that they're going to use that as any opportunity
- 55:49to suggest climate change, which is what they did, of course. But
- 55:52the interim report is out on this now, and so they decided they had
- 55:55to create the sensational list headlines Singapore Airlines plane dropped one hundred and seventy eight
- 56:00feet in five seconds, according to the preliminary report. But first of all,
- 56:07well, what can we say about Isaac Newton here, Charles, because
- 56:12I wanted to highlight this paragraph in particular their preliminary report. This is the
- 56:16Singaporean equivalent to the NTSB or the Investigation Team for Air Accidents. The AAIB
- 56:28would be the equivalent in the UK. Their primary report said that rapid changes
- 56:30in gravitational force caused the altitude drop. What happens when win gravity changes,
- 56:37Charles, I'm not sure. I mean, I suspect it was a sort
- 56:40of scrabbling in Newton's grave because he struggled to get out to contribute to the
- 56:45news today. I don't know, yes, indeed, But anyway, the
- 56:47truth is forgetting about any claims. But I believe Sky News, by the
- 56:52way, also tried to claim it was there was some kind of change in
- 56:54gravitational force involved here, But what actually happened was that aircraft flew into absolutely
- 57:04between two major thunderstorms. Now, unfortunately the weather radar and these aircraft can
- 57:12see what they're approaching, but can't really see through it, particularly if it's
- 57:15dense thunderstorms and so on. And there was a third thunderstorm, major thunderstorm
- 57:20behind the two that it was flying in between, so it ended up hitting
- 57:23some major turbulence. And apparently what the interim report says is that it went
- 57:30from experiencing within a few seconds plus one point three five G to minus one
- 57:37and a half G, and that of course caused anybody that wasn't wearing a
- 57:39seat belt to hit the ceiling in the aircraft. Quite an aggressive change in
- 57:45direction, and so there was one hundred and seventy eight foot drop, but
- 57:50bearing in mind they were thirty seven thousand feet, one hundred and seventy eight
- 57:52feet in of itself is not a major problem. It was the speed at
- 57:57which the altitude change happened that was the problem. So absolutely fantastic reporting from
- 58:02the BBC on this, and we'll do more to highlight their errors in the
- 58:08coming days and weeks. I just wanted to end with this report from Declassified
- 58:15UK. The headline here is King Charles accepted award from Nazi veteran. So
- 58:21what they're saying here is that a photograph has been discovered of the then Prince
- 58:24Charles receiving an award from former member of the waff and SS. Charles was
- 58:30given an honorary law degree during a ceremony at the University of Alberta at Eponton,
- 58:35Canada in nineteen eighty three. In his acceptance speech, he praised those
- 58:39who'd sacrificed their lives forty years ago, referring to the Second World War.
- 58:44Yet the award was conferred on him by Nazi collaborator. I go further than
- 58:49that. I don't think that's the appropriate word. The university's chancellor, Peter
- 58:52Savereign originally from Ukraine. He served in the fourteenth Waffen Grenadier Division otherwise so
- 59:00Galiciate Division, that particular group responsible for absolute atrocities in Poland, in particular
- 59:07total war crimes. They were vilified for it after the war, but nonetheless
- 59:13Britain helped a lot of these Ukrainians out of Ukraine. At the end of
- 59:17the Second World war, and they quite a lot of them got sent over
- 59:22to Canada. So anyway, maybe perhaps if we were being charitable, we
- 59:28could argue that Prince Charles kind of known that at the time. I do
- 59:32wonder about this. We should remember, of course, the family ties to
- 59:36the Nazi party. This is Prince Philip, his father at the funeral of
- 59:39his sister, which of course was attended by most of the Nazi dignitaries at
- 59:45the time, including his brother in law. The Prince Philip's brother in law,
- 59:50who was Prince Christoph of Hesse, who joined the SS in nineteen thirty
- 59:53two, so well before Hitler came to par and also Christoph's brother also called
- 1:00:00Philip, except with two p's on the end instead of one, who joined
- 1:00:04the SA in nineteen thirty He was considered Hitler's favorite prince and actively acted as
- 1:00:12go between between Hitler and Mussolini all the way through the war, so until
- 1:00:15obviously Mussolini was no longer in charge in Italy, as it were so many
- 1:00:22many questions to be asked about Prince now King Charles and the entire family in
- 1:00:27fact, and of course, bearing in mind he is pushing and leading the
- 1:00:31charge towards net zero. I think these were reasonable questions to ask as to
- 1:00:37what his ideology actually is. But anyway, we'll leave it there and direedly.
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