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Death of a Unicorn: It's Not All Sunshine And Rainbows - Xenomania 72 · Xenomania

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  Jon: This week on "Xenomania," join us as we learn of the restorative
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  powers of unicorns, poor fathering techniques, wealthy pharmaceutical
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  magnates, and destructive unicorns.
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  This is "Death of a Unicorn," and we are "Xenomania."
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  No, no, no.
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  Ryan: are real.
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  Jon: The tapestries aren't real.
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  The tapestries are only real in a movie, man.
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  There are no y- real unicorns.
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  Kearns: I think that might be my least favorite part of the movie, how they
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  figured out all of this stuff from the friggin' curtains or whatever.
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  else about it was, like, somewhat fun and believable-ish if you're
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  suspending your disbelief, but then they grab napkins from, like, 800
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  million years ago and were like, "Well, look, it tells us how to kill them."
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  Ryan: It... Well, it kill
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  Jon: Wait,
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  Kearns: but, like, get rid
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  Jon: wait, is that turkey juice?
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Exactly.
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  Jon: no.
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  Ryan: The purple
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  Jon: I...
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  Ryan: the idea of, like, how it connects to eternal life is pretty
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  much an interesting concept, and we're talking about Death of a
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  Unicorn, to catch you guys up.
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  Kearns: Eternal life they're taking from the old myths, that if you get
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  the unicorn horn, you get the magic.
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  Ryan: I never, I never, like, thought it like that, I guess.
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  I thought maybe, like, how when they grab the horn, like Jenna
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  Ortega, and they have, like, that flash into, like, an astral plane.
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  "Okay, I understand that," but never the eternal life.
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  Maybe a little healing
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: but that's
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  Jon: Yeah, well, I, I think some of these characters prove that the unicorn
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  essence does not give them eternal life.
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  Kearns: true.
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  They g- it heals them, right?
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  Jon: it's restorative, not necessarily immortality.
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  Kearns: they needed to keep it on tap for the immortality part,
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: you get the kinda insidious rich people ruining it for
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  everybody, which makes the movie
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  Jon: It's, it's always the insidious rich people, man.
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  Kearns: Hey, man, we're all just working for them until the robots take
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  over and they don't need us anymore.
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  Ryan: Judgment day.
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  Jon: It's, it's only s-
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  Kearns: on a Friday.
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  Ryan: Oh,
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  Jon: it's only slightly coincidental that we're recording this on
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  International Workers' Day too.
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  Kearns: that is, that is a nice coincidence, and the fact that that kept
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  popping up today made it even better.
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  Ryan: Well,
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Ryan: viva
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Yeah,
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  Jon: Start the revolution.
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  Kearns: will not be televised.
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  But uh, Death of a Unicorn was a fun ride, and I liked it because it was easy.
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  It was... It's on Netflix.
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  It was...
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: And, uh, we watched it, like, on release weekend or whatever
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  and just enjoyed a nice little fun movie in the living room, and that's
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  what it is, a nice little fun movie.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Ryan: is.
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  Jon: Yeah, and I mean, it, it's got those class warfare undertones
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  to it if you wanna pick it up,
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  Kearns: Yeah
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  Jon: you don't, have to.
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  Kearns: It's not heavy like Don't Look Up or anything like that though.
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  It's,
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  Jon: No
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  Kearns: there, but it's got a star-studded staff.
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  Or staff, oh my God, cast.
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  Ryan: Yes.
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  Kearns: staff . The, the craftspeople were great on this movie.
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  Jon: Yeah, like it was good craft services.
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  Ryan: They got
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  Kearns: Damn.
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  Jon: the, the grip was really good too.
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  Kearns: Love when you talk dirty to us, John.
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  Ryan: Talk about the lighting.
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  Jon: no, Death of a U- the Death of a Unicorn cast is really solid from...
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  Really, I- it's not a large cast, but they really cast this movie well.
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  Kearns: Agree.
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  break the bank
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  Jon: And
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  Kearns: necessarily.
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  Jon: no.
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  Kearns: but Richard E. Grant above his weight every time.
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  Téa Leoni
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  Jon: Yay.
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  Kearns: amazing.
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  Jon: Yeah, she doesn't come up often enough in stuff anymore, I feel like.
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  Ryan: No.
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  Jon: sh-
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  Kearns: her before she...
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  Jon: she's got a show that I'm, not aware of.
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  Yeah, I guess she does.
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  Madam Secretary she's been in, but like that's over for a while now too.
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  Kearns: Yep.
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  Jon: She just... She's usually good in what she's in.
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  I'm surprised we don't see more of her.
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  Kearns: Uh, oh, she'll be infamous for Bad Boys for her entire career.
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  That
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: her above water forever.
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  Um,
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Ryan: The
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  Kearns: and then, and there's a couple of, like, young stars in this too.
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  Will Poulter and Jenna Ortega.
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  Jenna Ortega's the it girl right now, obviously.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: But Will
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  Jon: We're
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  Ryan: We're the Millers?
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  We're the
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  Jon: the Millers.
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  Kearns: We're the
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  Jon: Like,
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  Kearns: great movie.
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  Ryan: Oh, God, yeah,
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  Jon: it's thir- it, he's 13 years older, and he doesn't
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  look any different except taller
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  Kearns: And
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  Jon: than he was in We're the Millers.
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  Ryan: APAC app,
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Everybody's trying to get MCU bodies these days.
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  They're trying to-- Everybody's trying to get into the next
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  jump of the superhero stuff.
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  Ryan: We need a Chris Farley body, all right?
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  Jon: I'm working on it, guys.
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  Kearns: We trust in your, in your process.
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  Oh, man.
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  Ryan: by the river though, John.
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  Please,
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  I mean, maybe.
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  Kearns: And then
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  Jon: Maybe.
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  Kearns: we, we have to mention Paul Rudd because that's John's
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  favorite part of this movie.
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  Jon: Oh, I mean, listen, I like Paul Rudd.
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  I thought he was good in this, but Paul Rudd is not the
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  lovable Paul Rudd in this movie.
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  Ryan: No, he's not.
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  Kearns: He's not the Paul Rudd that goes on Conan and, and
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  shills out Mac & Me clips in this.
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  you wanna punch him in the face the whole movie.
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  I agree.
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  Ryan: But I
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  Jon: He's there.
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  Ryan: it's a redemption
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  Jon: Go ahead.
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  Ryan: You know, he d-- I feel like there is a bit of redemption and, like,
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  interwoven, um, as we were talking about, like, the class struggle, it
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: nicely with the dialogue and the script and the actions of the characters.
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  But I feel like it's a redemption family arc, especially for Paul Rudd, 'cause
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  yeah, you do hate him, but I feel like it changes by the time the, the movie ends.
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Jon: I mean, it, it gets there.
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  Like the last 15 minutes we get there.
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  But it's a whole-- It's an hour and a half of him doing exactly the opposite
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  of what a good father would do every opportunity he has to be a good father.
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  Kearns: not about his
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  Jon: Yep, yep.
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  Kearns: messed up.
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  Jon: Yep, and, with the excuse that this is what mom would've wanted,
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  Kearns: Mm.
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  Jon: doing this for you.
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  You know, the, all those, all those sort of typical excuses.
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  Kearns: Cliche white collar upper middle
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: crap.
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  Yeah.
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  Ryan: Yep.
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  Kearns: "I
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: game," that kind of
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Yeah, and I'm starting to reach a point with Jenna Ortega that we gotta
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  start casting her a little older.
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  Kearns: Yeah, I agree.
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  It's, it's getting a little ridiculous.
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  Jon: we, we gotta, we gotta start... Like she... I don't know what
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  age she's supposed to be in this.
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  It seems pretty young.
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  Ryan: Sixteen maybe, seventeen,
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  Jon: And I mean, we're... I feel like we're beyond that being something we
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  should be doing with Jenna Ortega.
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  Ryan: I mean, she's got two more seasons of Wednesday,
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  Kearns: That's the problem.
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  Ryan: it's, it's still in high school, so they still are gonna
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  like typecast her in that role, and she did that, um, that recent movie
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  with, um, the guy from Sherlock who plays Watson, where he's the teacher.
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  Jon: Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
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  I don't...
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  Ryan: it's not worthy of remembering the title basically, but it's like they still
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  typecast her as like the student, kid,
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Ryan: you know?
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  Jon: Yeah, she-- I mean, she's 23.
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  Like we're, you know, we're not, we're not like Ralph Macchio "Karate Kid" at
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  this point, but we're getting there.
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Ryan: yeah.
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  Jon: we're not the "Stranger Things" kids,
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  Kearns: Right.
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  And it
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  Jon: but we're getting pretty close.
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  Kearns: it with a young lady as... And a, a young Ralph
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  Macchio is a different animal
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  Ryan: Yeah.
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  Kearns: cast as the Karate Kid.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: who also have tabs open on feet pic websites
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  Ryan: Uh,
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  Kearns: are, that are stalking Ralph Macchio.
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  Jon: Well, I mean, there's plenty of shoeless scenes of Ralph Macchio in
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  "The Karate Kid," you don't need it.
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  Kearns: know.
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  Ryan: Fair.
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  Kearns: That's a good point.
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  It's getting a little hot in here.
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  All right So about the movie, about the movie and not
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  Ralph Macchio's perfect feet.
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  Uh, hmm.
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  Let's see.
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  So we get a pretty interesting start.
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  you immediately know the stakes are low as far as character
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  development and things like that.
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  They just throw these, like, profile sheets in your face.
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  Paul Rudd, bad dad.
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  Um,
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: I never use the character names.
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  I always use the actor names.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: is the troubled teenager with anxiety who
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: weed and has pimples.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  And yeah, I, I'm sure... I didn't go, go searching for this information,
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  but I'm sure the Ridley name is some sort of nod to "Alien."
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  Ryan: Yeah.
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  Kearns: Probably.
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  Jon: You just turn it upside down.
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  Ripley, Ridley, it works.
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  Kearns: It does.
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  It does.
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  Ryan: I like
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  Kearns: And...
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  Jon: It's a similar concept of a character.
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  Kearns: Now, this is Xenomania, so the second you bring in a reference to
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  Alien, we all be quiet and let you cook.
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  So keep cooking.
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  If there's anything left to throw on that barbecue, keep cooking.
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  Jon: No, no, that's, that's basically it.
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  Uh, you know, she's... It's, it's a similar type of character, sort
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  of reluctant hero, uh, the v- very ignored for a lot of the time.
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  Like, she's consistently throughout the movie, Ridley is the one who has a
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  clue of what's going on and what to do,
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  Ryan: Yes.
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  Jon: and it's... And she gets treated very much like the,
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  "Hey, you're seen, not heard.
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  Get in, get o- get back over there.
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  We're not listening to you.
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  You're silly."
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  Kearns: Yep.
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  Ryan: Which is similar to the Ripley character, at least in Aliens.
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  Kearns: She's cast
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: the weird kid by the rich family that they're going to stay
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  with, and then she's cast aside
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  Jon: Yep.
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  Kearns: as a liability who's trying to get the uber promotion in the corporation
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  the rich family that they're staying with.
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  So she's got nothing going for her.
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  Is there-- Does she get in with the help at all?
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  Yeah,
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  Jon: Yeah, she does sort of get Griff to come around to her thinking.
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  Ryan: Griff.
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  Jon: He... She does a good job with Griffin, who I l- I love that character.
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  And he's just so, like,
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  Kearns: cool.
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  Jon: right.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, like, "I've worked for you for how long and you don't know
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  that I have kids?" You know, that, that whole thing, you know?
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  He's
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  Kearns: Which does more
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  Jon: the put-upon.
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  Kearns: awful the family is than anything else.
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  Jon: Exactly, exactly.
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  And it, I mean, it's sort of unnecessary because as soon as each one of the,
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  that family opens their mouth, you know they're pretty terrible people.
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  Ryan: Yeah, I mean, in the beginning you feel like Richard
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  E. Grant he's, like, dying, Odell.
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  dying
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: a little more calmer, but then once he jumps back up, you can just
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  see he's like, he's just a jerk.
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  And
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  Jon: He
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  Ryan: getting vibes when he dressed up in the safari outfit, like from Alligator?
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  'Cause that's where my
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  Jon: Oh, yeah.
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  Yeah, for sure.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, I, I-- So I thought about that, and for some reason it, it also
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  flashed to "Ready or Not" as well.
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  I d- I don't know what that connection was, but it felt very "Ready or Not."
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  Kearns: it's the... Yeah, that's very ready or not.
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  It's, um, if the
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: out, like, weapons and started hunting the poors, it wouldn't have
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  surprised me at all during this
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  Jon: No.
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  No, not at all.
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  Kearns: they get, they sort of throw other people in front of the danger.
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  Ryan: Yep.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: life at all.
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  It's all about getting that unicorn blood.
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  Jon: Yep.
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  But e-even early on when Odel is still the dying version of Odel, you
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  can tell he's not been a good dude.
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  I mean, y- number one, he's a pharmaceutical company founder, executive.
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  A--
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  Kearns: Instant
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  Jon: he's probably done some awful things in that aspect, and, uh, he's just...
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  You can just tell that, that he's that kind of person, even sick and dying.
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  He's...
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  Ryan: It, it's also his face.
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  Richard E. Grant has such a villain
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  Jon: Well, yeah, yeah.
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  Like, he, he's a very good villain.
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  He's a very, very emotive villain in this.
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  Like, he's fa- You can just, he's, you know... You look at that character
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  and you're like, "Eh, villain." And then you get Téa Leoni and she's, you
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  know, the, sort of the stereotypical rich female villain, you know?
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  The,
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  Kearns: Yep.
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  Jon: you know, the, the, "I'm gonna do this for my foundation"
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  Kearns: It's very
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  Jon: person.
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  Kearns: very cold.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: Martha Stewart?
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  Kearns: Completely one... Martha Stewart has more warmth, even if it's fake,
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Ryan: that, that's because of Snoop Dogg.
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  Kearns: Hmm, maybe.
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  Jon: I mean, S-Snoop
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  Kearns: still had
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  Jon: d- Snoop humanized her, but she-- Yeah, that's what it is.
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  You just said it, Kearns, it's the home.
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  Kearns: Hmm.
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  Jon: Martha Stewart was always sort of associated with home,
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  not business, not foundations.
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  It was, she was the home lady, so there, there was always that
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  comfort element with her that you don't get from a Téa, Téa Leoni.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Like, she's like your rich mom, you know?
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  Like, if Mom had a ton of money to do all that stuff all
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  day, that's what she would be.
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  Kearns: That's the script, yeah.
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  Jon: The T-Téa Leoni as a mom is all about her,
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  Ryan: Yeah.
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  Jon: and it...
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  Kearns: Exactly she, did they ever do where she's like a little bit
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  upset that hubby is, healed at all?
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  I, I don't know if I was expecting that and it didn't come, or I think
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: be the case, where I was expecting her to be like, "Ah, damn it,
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  Jon: I,
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  Kearns: live."
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  Jon: I,
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  Ryan: thought...
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  Jon: I think it was more expectation than Something that they did and that's
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  probably kind of a missed opportunity.
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  Ryan: do
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Ryan: see their facial reactions though?
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  'Cause I feel like their faces also tell a story in the movie, and I
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  got that feeling too when she finds out he's alive or when she sees him.
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  Her face is,
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: of course because, oh God, he's, like, walking around.
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  But it's also like, "Ah, crap, he's not dying." Because
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  Kearns: short
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  Jon: Or,
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  Ryan: with it in- when he's
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  Jon: or is it, "Oh crap, he's not dying and that means I probably
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  have to have sex with him again"?
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  Kearns: many more times.
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  He's back to, like, his good old boy days.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Ryan: man.
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  Hoo-ha.
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  Kearns: Or the short story, "The Window," is the one where the wife is met with
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  people who say that her husband has passed in a train accident, she's... At
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  first she's shocked and numb, and then she goes upstairs and looks out the
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  window and sees, like, this world of opportunity now that he's gone and she
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  doesn't have to live under him anymore.
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  And she walks downstairs again after that's passed, and
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  he walks in the front door.
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  They were wrong.
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  And
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: I- It's interpretive.
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  She either passes out or... At that point, like one of the most bleak
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  short stories you could ever read.
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  Ryan: Sounds
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  Kearns: That's... I just made the connection from what you guys were talking
• 16:17
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 16:18
  Kearns: so
• 16:18
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 16:18
  Kearns: little diatribe.
• 16:20
  Jon: I don't see her character as having that sort of interest even.
• 16:24
  I, like she's got... If he dies she's got the money, but if he lives
• 16:30
  she's still kinda got the money too.
• 16:32
  Like it, it,
• 16:33
  Ryan: She's just gotta have
• 16:34
  Jon: there's plenty of money in that situation.
• 16:37
  Kearns: roots, since I can't say the other words, moms that's just numb and floating.
• 16:43
  Yeah.
• 16:44
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 16:45
  And
• 16:45
  Ryan: so
• 16:46
  Jon: they have their ob- their child of privilege, ol' Shepherd,
• 16:50
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 16:51
  Jon: Will Poulter.
• 16:52
  Kearns: out of the whole bunch.
• 16:52
  He is brutal.
• 16:54
  Jon: because he's not earned it in any way.
• 16:57
  Kearns: I just hate
• 16:57
  Jon: He...
• 16:58
  Kearns: I cannot stand them.
• 17:00
  Jon: Yeah.
• 17:00
  Yeah.
• 17:01
  I mean, Odell, like without a backstory, Odell has at least done something
• 17:05
  to earn the money that he has.
• 17:08
  Ta Leonie's character, I'm blanking on her name,
• 17:11
  Ryan: Belinda.
• 17:11
  Jon: has done...
• 17:12
  Belinda has done things to
• 17:15
  Ryan: Belinda.
• 17:16
  Jon: earn the money.
• 17:17
  Ryan: Linda.
• 17:19
  Kearns: Belinda
• 17:21
  Jon: and Shepherd's just sort of the spoiled rich kid who's like s- he, I
• 17:25
  mean, he has some interest in creating something for himself, but it's all like
• 17:30
  derivative and it's all hair-brained and, you know, and then he becomes
• 17:37
  addicted to ground unicorn horn.
• 17:39
  Ryan: was
• 17:39
  Kearns: I
• 17:40
  Ryan: Just,
• 17:42
  Kearns: would?
• 17:42
  Ryan: how he lines up, how they line up those scenes.
• 17:44
  'Cause I was like, "What
• 17:45
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 17:46
  Ryan: I'm like, "No, don't.
• 17:47
  Oh, okay.
• 17:48
  You're
• 17:48
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 17:50
  Ryan: But as he keeps
• 17:51
  Jon: Yeah.
• 17:52
  Ryan: "I wonder what the side effects are?" Like,
• 17:55
  Kearns: God.
• 17:55
  Jon: I mean-
• 17:56
  Kearns: massive, massive erections is my guess.
• 18:00
  That's why they, poach, um, rhinos.
• 18:02
  You know that.
• 18:04
  They poach
• 18:05
  Jon: Yeah.
• 18:05
  Kearns: a full-grown male rhino, take the horn, and then they sell it on the
• 18:08
  black market because there are people out there that think it gives you...
• 18:12
  Ryan: Oh,
• 18:13
  Jon: Yeah, virility.
• 18:15
  Ryan: that's-- no.
• 18:17
  That--
• 18:17
  Jon: Yeah.
• 18:17
  Kearns: is a YouTube-safe
• 18:19
  Jon: I mean, I don't think it's true, but that's, that's what the belief is.
• 18:23
  Kearns: they've disproven it all the time.
• 18:24
  That's why if you go into the gas station, the boner pills that are there, one
• 18:28
  that'll be like White Rhino and stuff like
• 18:31
  Jon: Yeah.
• 18:31
  Kearns: silly goose stuff.
• 18:33
  And it's funny too 'cause there's no r- there's no rhino horn in those.
• 18:39
  Ryan: I
• 18:39
  Jon: No.
• 18:39
  Ryan: It's just
• 18:40
  Kearns: I've never looked at them and read the back or anything,
• 18:42
  but I'm-- it's probably horny goat weed would be my guess.
• 18:46
  Ryan: they're always behind the
• 18:47
  Jon: Yeah.
• 18:47
  Ryan: right by the checkout counter, and I'm like, "Yeah,
• 18:50
  this is great advertising, guys."
• 18:52
  Kearns: They
• 18:53
  Jon: So I- I'll, I'll t-
• 18:55
  Kearns: right, John's ready to...
• 18:56
  Jon: on this.
• 18:56
  Hey, I'll tangent on this.
• 18:58
  Have you ever seen somebody buy them?
• 19:00
  Kearns: No.
• 19:01
  Ryan: No.
• 19:02
  Jon: I haven't either.
• 19:03
  Does anybody actually buy them?
• 19:05
  Kearns: dude who did, actually.
• 19:06
  I do know a guy who did, and he took like six packets of different ones, and
• 19:11
  Jon: man.
• 19:12
  Kearns: heart palpitations.
• 19:14
  Jon: Yeah, see, that's what I think they do.
• 19:16
  I think they make your heart explode.
• 19:18
  Ryan: So it's
• 19:19
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 19:20
  But he was-- There
• 19:21
  Ryan: Viagra.
• 19:22
  Kearns: of stuff involved in that cocktail that, that weekend
• 19:24
  'cause we were hanging out.
• 19:26
  It was our White Plains days.
• 19:27
  He used to live down there.
• 19:29
  And it wasn't like he was going home just to try it either.
• 19:32
  There was another human with him that was part of the ordeal.
• 19:36
  Yeah, but I think that it
• 19:37
  Jon: Oof.
• 19:37
  Kearns: that he couldn't
• 19:38
  Jon: Oof.
• 19:38
  Those,
• 19:39
  Kearns: that performing might have ended him.
• 19:41
  Was kind of the way it went.
• 19:43
  Ryan: he have a Four Loko on top of it?
• 19:45
  That would've
• 19:45
  Kearns: No, this is before Four Loko, brother.
• 19:47
  I
• 19:48
  Ryan: Ooh.
• 19:49
  Jon: are the really untested boner pills then.
• 19:55
  Kearns: Oh, yeah.
• 19:57
  Jon: Those
• 19:57
  Kearns: mean, that
• 19:58
  Jon: are...
• 19:59
  Kearns: era when you could get meth at the gas station.
• 20:01
  Jon: Yeah, they, they... Which sorta comes up in "Death of a Unicorn,"
• 20:06
  like they take credit for fen-phen.
• 20:09
  Remember fen-phen?
• 20:11
  Kearns: That's a nod to the, uh, the crisis of the oaps,
• 20:15
  Jon: Yeah.
• 20:16
  Kearns: list- dear listeners.
• 20:18
  Jon: Yeah, fen,
• 20:19
  Kearns: many, too many
• 20:19
  Jon: was the
• 20:20
  Kearns: statements for us to say.
• 20:22
  Jon: fen-phen was the pre-opioid pharmaceutical crisis.
• 20:28
  Like they're marketing essentially meth to people as a weight loss
• 20:33
  drug and it didn't go well.
• 20:36
  Ryan: I could imagine everyone got addicted very quickly.
• 20:41
  Jon: It was in everything too, like anything diet related had that in it
• 20:47
  Kearns: Oh, I'm sure.
• 20:48
  Jon: Uh, s- the SlimFast maybe didn't, but SlimFast was also... Like, SlimFast
• 20:53
  is also based on, like, the we're gonna load you up with a ton of protein so
• 20:57
  you're never hungry kinda concept.
• 20:59
  Ryan: delicious, I'm just saying.
• 21:01
  The vanilla one?
• 21:01
  Jon: Ah, see, no, I never liked, I never liked it.
• 21:05
  Kearns: like a petroleum taste to me.
• 21:07
  Jon: Yep.
• 21:07
  Kearns: Like it
• 21:07
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 21:08
  Yeah.
• 21:09
  Kearns: to drink liquefied, um, I guess petroleum jelly.
• 21:13
  I was trying to think
• 21:14
  Jon: Yeah.
• 21:14
  Kearns: damn brand.
• 21:17
  Jon: I feel, I feel like it also absorbed the flavor of the can, too.
• 21:21
  Kearns: Maybe.
• 21:21
  I didn't drink enough of them to get that deep, but it was, it was not fun.
• 21:26
  I was like, "Ugh." I thought it'd be like Ovaltine or something.
• 21:29
  Ryan: Ooh, Ovaltine.
• 21:30
  Jon: Oh, yeah.
• 21:32
  Ryan: Wait, chocolate or
• 21:33
  Jon: Ovaltine
• 21:34
  Kearns: Chocolate.
• 21:35
  Ryan: Oh,
• 21:36
  Jon: chocolate.
• 21:36
  Kearns: Malt's a little,
• 21:37
  Jon: Chocolate.
• 21:38
  Ryan: malt.
• 21:39
  Kearns: crazy.
• 21:40
  Ryan: The blue one?
• 21:41
  Jon: No.
• 21:41
  The
• 21:42
  Kearns: Nat King Cole and make
• 21:43
  Jon: one?
• 21:44
  Kearns: malt flavored Ovaltine.
• 21:46
  Ryan: That's what I do.
• 21:47
  Chestnuts
• 21:48
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 21:49
  Ryan: your open fire.
• 21:50
  Kearns: Baby, it's cold
• 21:51
  Jon: On your open fire?
• 21:53
  Ryan: Well,
• 21:53
  Jon: No, you can't sing "Baby It's Cold Out".
• 21:56
  Kearns: true.
• 21:57
  Ryan: uh,
• 21:57
  Jon: Ba- "Baby It's Cold Out" is canceled, man.
• 22:00
  You can't sing that one.
• 22:01
  Kearns: I mean, it should be.
• 22:04
  Jon: I mean,
• 22:05
  Kearns: I get it, but it's like I get
• 22:07
  Jon: I, yeah, I guess.
• 22:09
  Like, it's...
• 22:10
  Ryan: y-
• 22:10
  Jon: But it... I mean, it's of its time period, which is, was a bad time period.
• 22:18
  It
• 22:18
  Kearns: Yes, for women
• 22:19
  Jon: was a bad time period, yeah.
• 22:22
  Kearns: to leave, it was a
• 22:23
  Jon: Yeah.
• 22:25
  But, like, if, if you're sitting and innocently listening to that
• 22:29
  song, like, you don't pick that up.
• 22:30
  You, like, I do,
• 22:31
  Kearns: times for
• 22:32
  Jon: I never, I ne- if, until the controversy, I never
• 22:35
  would've thought about that.
• 22:37
  Kearns: we just don't, we don't go looking for
• 22:38
  Jon: Yeah.
• 22:39
  Kearns: That's our
• 22:40
  Jon: Yeah.
• 22:40
  Kearns: saying that it's like
• 22:41
  Jon: I mean, I'll g-
• 22:42
  Kearns: are, are triggered by it are looking for trouble, but the Me
• 22:45
  Too movement made us more aware of
• 22:47
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 22:47
  Kearns: like that.
• 22:48
  Jon: Yeah.
• 22:48
  I'm not above going and looking for trouble.
• 22:50
  Uh, it's one of my favorite sided habits, you know?
• 22:53
  Like,
• 22:54
  Ryan: Listen, w-wait,
• 22:55
  Jon: what can I get into, but...
• 22:57
  Ryan: wait till they tackle the Little Drummer Boy, all right?
• 23:01
  Kearns: Runner style?
• 23:01
  What
• 23:02
  Ryan: Like
• 23:02
  Kearns: are we talking about here?
• 23:06
  Ryan: oh.
• 23:08
  Jon: No.
• 23:09
  They're not, they're not gonna come for the Little Drummer
• 23:11
  Boy because it's too religious.
• 23:13
  Kearns: on my reference
• 23:16
  Ryan: There's
• 23:17
  Kearns: Ryan is picking up what I'm laying down.
• 23:19
  Ryan: there's so many references we can go with
• 23:21
  Jon: Yeah.
• 23:21
  Ryan: and then
• 23:22
  Kearns: Hey, do we have a game this week?
• 23:25
  Jon: Of course we have a game this week.
• 23:27
  Kearns: road.
• 23:27
  Jon: And we have steaks again this week, too.
• 23:30
  Kearns: Oh, no.
• 23:32
  Ryan: rare.
• 23:33
  Kearns: Now I get
• 23:34
  Jon: No, not edible ones.
• 23:36
  Kearns: stakes.
• 23:37
  Jon: so
• 23:38
  Ryan: Ooh.
• 23:38
  Jon: I'm just gonna tell you guys, there is a theme.
• 23:42
  Kearns: Okay.
• 23:42
  Ryan: It,
• 23:42
  Jon: There is a theme.
• 23:45
  Um- It's sla- stash three/five.
• 23:51
  Ryan: Okay.
• 23:52
  Jon: if you guess the theme within the first three movies, you get an extra.
• 23:57
  However, to prevent random multiple guessing per movie, every time
• 24:06
  you guess wrong, you lose a stash.
• 24:10
  Kearns: that's rough.
• 24:12
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 24:13
  Kearns: I like that.
• 24:14
  Although last time I did guess it right on the first guess, just saying.
• 24:17
  Jon: You did.
• 24:18
  You did.
• 24:18
  Kearns: saying.
• 24:19
  Jon: All
• 24:19
  Kearns: happening
• 24:20
  Jon: right.
• 24:21
  Movie number one.
• 24:23
  Stashing or slashing Xenomania alumnus Leprechaun.
• 24:30
  Kearns: Did I say the joke one that I was gonna say that's not serious at all?
• 24:35
  Jon: Sure, I'll let you get a joke one-off.
• 24:37
  Kearns: Are these movies where, um, Jennifer Aniston
• 24:41
  is in before her nose job?
• 24:44
  Jon: No.
• 24:45
  Kearns: I didn't think so.
• 24:46
  Okay.
• 24:47
  Jon: They're not.
• 24:48
  Kearns: Up, up, up, up, up, up, up,
• 24:50
  Jon: All
• 24:50
  Kearns: up.
• 24:51
  There's eight of these suckers coming, so I gotta s- I gotta slash
• 24:54
  Leprechaun, which feels sacrilegious.
• 24:56
  Are they in random order again, or are they, is this a
• 24:58
  Jon: They are,
• 24:59
  Ryan: order.
• 25:00
  Jon: are random.
• 25:01
  Kearns: Okay.
• 25:02
  Jon: are random.
• 25:03
  I know the order.
• 25:04
  I, I looked ahead, I know the order, but I, I did not create the order.
• 25:10
  Ryan: Hmm.
• 25:12
  I'm trying to figure out what the theme is.
• 25:15
  Like, I got an idea, but
• 25:17
  Kearns: mean, it's usually connected to what we're watching,
• 25:20
  and, uh, there's a leprechaun involved and a unicorn involved.
• 25:23
  Ryan: But it's like, would you-- Like, I have an idea, but would
• 25:26
  you, like, would you ex- You-- Are you looking for a specific title?
• 25:32
  Is the question.
• 25:33
  Like, if
• 25:33
  Kearns: Movies with mythological creatures in them.
• 25:36
  I'm just gonna burn a movie.
• 25:37
  Is that it, John?
• 25:39
  Jon: You got four, man.
• 25:41
  Kearns: I, I got... Yeah, I, I had to jump ahead of
• 25:43
  Ryan: Curse
• 25:43
  Kearns: you.
• 25:44
  Ryan: Curse you.
• 25:45
  Kearns: I was gonna wait for the next one to be sure, but I got nervous.
• 25:49
  Ryan: no, that's where I was going, Warp, but I was gonna say folklore, but
• 25:52
  I didn't think folklore would work, and I
• 25:54
  Kearns: Folklore
• 25:55
  Jon: it's, it's, it's mythological.
• 25:57
  It's... Some of them are not.
• 26:00
  Some of them are inspired by mythological more than directly mythological, but...
• 26:05
  Kearns: No, it's John.
• 26:06
  John, we gotta give it to Ryan, 'cause I did steal it like a thief in the night.
• 26:10
  Ryan should get the extra one
• 26:11
  Ryan: No, yours--
• 26:12
  Jon: never said it.
• 26:13
  Ry- you-- I wouldn't, I wouldn't have taken folklore.
• 26:16
  Kearns: Now you are y- you are a vicious host, John.
• 26:19
  Okay.
• 26:20
  Jon: I would not have taken folklore.
• 26:22
  Ryan: It's
• 26:22
  Kearns: he would
• 26:23
  Jon: All right.
• 26:23
  Kearns: Okay.
• 26:24
  Ryan: What?
• 26:25
  Jon: All right, so Ryan, Ryan, are you stashing or slashing Lep?
• 26:28
  Ryan: I'm slap-- slap shit left.
• 26:31
  Kearns: Lep, sounds like something you get from a bad weekend out.
• 26:35
  I got the lep.
• 26:37
  Ryan: I
• 26:37
  Jon: I have it by Monday.
• 26:38
  Kearns: Oh, boy.
• 26:40
  Oh, boy.
• 26:41
  I hope so.
• 26:42
  We gotta talk after the podcast.
• 26:44
  Somebody's got plans.
• 26:47
  Jon: All right, you ready for number two?
• 26:49
  Ah.
• 26:49
  Ryan: Yes.
• 26:51
  Jon: There we go.
• 26:52
  It's Antlers.
• 26:53
  Kearns: Antlers a lot.
• 26:55
  I liked Antlers a whole lot.
• 26:59
  I'm gonna... I-- It's a Wendigo movie, dude.
• 27:02
  Jon: Mm-hmm, and it's a, it's a produced by Guillermo del Toro.
• 27:07
  Kearns: Yeah, it's, it's double, double W for me.
• 27:09
  I'm gonna keep Antlers, man.
• 27:11
  Stash that sucker all day.
• 27:12
  thoroughly enjoyed this movie.
• 27:16
  Ryan: Oh.
• 27:16
  Jon: me too, and I was very surprised that it did.
• 27:20
  Kearns: Well, del Toro being involved made me take a little bit more,
• 27:25
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 27:25
  Kearns: but it does have its weak moments for sure, but
• 27:29
  Jon: Yeah.
• 27:30
  Kearns: really good.
• 27:32
  Jon: Yeah, it works though.
• 27:33
  Ryan: I gotta slash it.
• 27:34
  I never seen it.
• 27:36
  Jon: You haven't seen Antlers?
• 27:37
  Ryan: I wrote it down.
• 27:39
  I wrote it
• 27:39
  Kearns: He did write it down.
• 27:40
  Ryan: card.
• 27:41
  So I, I'm-- Once you said Wendigo, Guillermo del Toro, sold.
• 27:46
  I love a good Wendigo story.
• 27:48
  They actually, um, they're coming out with a, a Wendigo movie that's, like, got like
• 27:53
  the 1950s creature feature vibes, which,
• 27:56
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 27:57
  I didn't re- Just looking at this poster, I didn't realize how many
• 28:01
  of this year's Academy Awards related people were in this.
• 28:06
  I remember Jesse Plemons, but Amy Madigan is in there too.
• 28:09
  Kearns: Amy Madigan is on fire lately.
• 28:13
  Jon: Plus Guillermo.
• 28:14
  Kearns: Keri Russell.
• 28:17
  Not
• 28:17
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 28:18
  Kearns: what you were saying, but Keri Russell.
• 28:19
  Um,
• 28:20
  Jon: Yep.
• 28:21
  Kearns: Antlers was a great addition to this, John.
• 28:23
  Much respect.
• 28:24
  Jon: Okay.
• 28:25
  Nice.
• 28:25
  Good, good, good.
• 28:26
  Let's see how you feel about the next one.
• 28:30
  The Ritual.
• 28:31
  Kearns: thankful that I have the extra one now.
• 28:34
  Ritual too.
• 28:35
  I enjoyed this movie, um, a whole lot too
• 28:40
  Jon: I did too.
• 28:40
  I, I was surprised because this was the time that I wasn't sold
• 28:45
  on the Netflix original thing.
• 28:47
  Kearns: Well, this is stolen from Laird Barron.
• 28:49
  if you read Laird Barron, Blackburn's Baby is a take on the Wendigo story
• 28:54
  or the Wendigo concept, but it's a, it's a stag in the, the woods, and
• 28:59
  there's a cult culture around it, and there's a hunting party set upon it.
• 29:03
  But they're all just a ritualistic sacrifice, and they don't know it.
• 29:08
  it's
• 29:08
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 29:09
  Kearns: with, like, a couple of changes here with basically just
• 29:12
  zooming in on the hunting party as the group of friends going in
• 29:16
  Jon: Yeah.
• 29:17
  Ryan: Sounds cool.
• 29:18
  I gotta slash it.
• 29:19
  I've never seen it
• 29:21
  Jon: You didn't see this one either, Ryan?
• 29:23
  Ryan: I
• 29:24
  Kearns: The Ritual is, like, a mainstay in modern horror.
• 29:26
  You gotta watch it.
• 29:28
  Jon: Yeah.
• 29:29
  Kearns: important to you than probably
• 29:31
  Jon: I wrote it down.
• 29:32
  Ryan: down.
• 29:33
  Kearns: That's good.
• 29:34
  Ryan: That's the best I got right
• 29:37
  Kearns: know what it's, it is?
• 29:37
  Like on a s- if I have a sick day, I usually rip through like
• 29:40
  three or four of these suckers.
• 29:42
  Ryan: Oh, I'm sleeping.
• 29:43
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 29:44
  Kearns: I, I couldn't sleep on my last ones, unfortunately, but I tried.
• 29:49
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 29:51
  Kearns: The Ritual,
• 29:52
  Jon: right.
• 29:53
  Kearns: addition.
• 29:54
  Now, what mythological creature would this thing be?
• 29:57
  Jon: And,
• 29:58
  Kearns: Sort of like an...
• 29:59
  Jon: I, I, yeah, I sort of prefaced this after you guessed it with
• 30:02
  some of them are not directly but inspired by other mythological
• 30:08
  beings, which will become clear soon.
• 30:11
  Kearns: Got it.
• 30:11
  Gotcha.
• 30:13
  Jon: Um, all right, movie number four.
• 30:17
  Kearns: Oh, we work with this
• 30:18
  Jon: Krampus.
• 30:20
  Ryan: I'll stash this.
• 30:21
  I know this film.
• 30:23
  Kearns: This one also was another movie that was way better than
• 30:26
  I thought it was going to be.
• 30:28
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 30:29
  Kearns: Way
• 30:29
  Jon: I've liked this more every time I've watched it.
• 30:32
  The first time it was kinda just okay, but I've, I've really grown
• 30:36
  to like this movie quite a bit.
• 30:37
  Ryan: seen the, um, uncut version as well?
• 30:41
  Kearns: Have
• 30:42
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 30:42
  Ryan: It's, uh, I b- I haven't seen it either, but does it add
• 30:46
  more or is it still like... Yeah.
• 30:49
  Okay.
• 30:49
  Jon: A lot of the times with the uncut ones, I don't notice unless I watch
• 30:53
  them, like, almost consecutively.
• 30:57
  Kearns: Which is kinda tough on the whole
• 30:59
  Jon: Yeah.
• 30:59
  Yeah.
• 31:00
  Kearns: And then, I
• 31:00
  Jon: Yeah.
• 31:01
  Kearns: of dialogue.
• 31:02
  Like, rarely will you get, like, a sick cut scene that they had to get rid of
• 31:05
  for some reason, 'cause they keep all the good stuff in the movie for a reason.
• 31:10
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 31:10
  And if you watch it on physical, it's often the director's cut anyways,
• 31:14
  so they're adding that all back.
• 31:16
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 31:16
  Yeah,
• 31:18
  Ryan: Yeah, this-- They have a, a lot of good keepers.
• 31:21
  Um, the gingerbread scene.
• 31:23
  I love the, was it the, the clown?
• 31:27
  it a Jack in
• 31:27
  Kearns: that was creepy.
• 31:29
  Ryan: Love
• 31:29
  Kearns: I to slash it.
• 31:33
  I have to slash it
• 31:34
  Ryan: I, I, I mean compared to
• 31:35
  Kearns: I have two left and there's four left, I think, right?
• 31:40
  Four left.
• 31:41
  Ryan: Four
• 31:42
  Jon: Yep.
• 31:42
  Four... We're halfway through.
• 31:43
  You both have two stashes and two slashes.
• 31:48
  Kearns: Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.
• 31:50
  Jon: Let's see.
• 31:51
  Kearns: He wrote
• 31:51
  Jon: Let's see if you guys are gonna be...
• 31:54
  Ryan: three slashes.
• 31:56
  Jon: Yes, you have two left.
• 31:58
  Ryan: okay.
• 31:58
  I was like, "Wait a minute."
• 32:00
  Jon: You have two of each left.
• 32:01
  Ryan: got a
• 32:02
  Jon: I, I've got it all written down, man,
• 32:06
  Ryan: I just...
• 32:06
  Kearns: Do, do, do, do, do, do, do.
• 32:08
  Jon: weeks and weeks of this.
• 32:10
  All right, next.
• 32:12
  Kearns: Oh, I really like this one too.
• 32:14
  Oh my God.
• 32:16
  What a great reference to mythological creatures as well.
• 32:19
  This movie really punched above its weight at, at, at the time.
• 32:22
  When I
• 32:22
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 32:23
  Kearns: blown away.
• 32:25
  I
• 32:25
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 32:27
  Kearns: and then Trollhunter, like, within a week of each other too, and I
• 32:30
  was like, "What is happening? Why are movies so good now?" And then nothing like
• 32:34
  that came out for another 10, 15 years.
• 32:38
  Jon: Yeah.
• 32:38
  Yep.
• 32:39
  Kearns: Um, I'm
• 32:40
  Jon: Yeah.
• 32:41
  Kearns: slashing this.
• 32:43
  Jon: I like what Andre Ovredal has done.
• 32:45
  Kearns: What else has he done?
• 32:47
  Jon: Um, he did Autopsy of Jane Doe, which love Autopsy of Jane Doe.
• 32:54
  Kearns: Another phenomenal movie.
• 32:55
  Um, I'm gonna have to stash Trollhunter, and I know I'm gonna regret it 'cause
• 33:01
  it is amazing, but it is... It's more like Krampus is to me, where it's a,
• 33:05
  it's a fun ride kinda movie, but it's
• 33:07
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 33:08
  Kearns: And a found footage movie usually doesn't make its way into my
• 33:11
  slash, or stash piles, but here we are.
• 33:16
  Jon: Yep.
• 33:16
  Ryan: I wrote it down.
• 33:18
  It's
• 33:18
  Kearns: one does 'cause
• 33:19
  Jon: Y- you haven't, you haven't seen this either, have you?
• 33:22
  Ryan: let's just slash it.
• 33:23
  I wrote it though.
• 33:24
  It's
• 33:24
  Kearns: Bro,
• 33:25
  Ryan: It's, it's my new catchphrase.
• 33:27
  I
• 33:27
  Jon: Ryan.
• 33:30
  Kearns: That's
• 33:30
  Jon: Ryan.
• 33:31
  Ryan: Listen,
• 33:31
  Kearns: Real.
• 33:46
  Ryan: long list, but I've seen Seven Samurai.
• 33:49
  I'll always say that.
• 33:52
  Jon: Okay.
• 33:53
  All right.
• 33:53
  Kearns: You only got one stash left and we have three more movies.
• 33:56
  This is gonna sting.
• 33:57
  Jon: It is g- it is gonna sting because I remember two of the three that are left.
• 34:02
  Kearns: No.
• 34:05
  Jon: All right, next.
• 34:07
  Kearns: Oh, let's stash.
• 34:10
  Without, without exception, this must get stashed.
• 34:13
  Ryan: know this film.
• 34:15
  Kearns: I should have
• 34:15
  Jon: Now.
• 34:16
  Kearns: coming.
• 34:18
  I was so excited when you finally watched this.
• 34:20
  Ryan: It's so good.
• 34:20
  I
• 34:21
  Jon: Me too.
• 34:21
  Ryan: we cover it again.
• 34:22
  I gotta get the, uh, Criterion version of it.
• 34:25
  That's how much I do love this film.
• 34:27
  It's,
• 34:27
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 34:28
  Ryan: so well done.
• 34:29
  It's,
• 34:30
  Jon: Yep.
• 34:30
  Yep.
• 34:32
  Kearns: I can't watch it because it makes me so-- And now that I have
• 34:34
  children too, I watched this for the first time before I had kids.
• 34:38
  Now that I have
• 34:38
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 34:39
  Kearns: it impossible to get through.
• 34:40
  It's such a tough movie.
• 34:41
  I love it.
• 34:42
  Ryan: That's when you make it a family night.
• 34:45
  Jon: I don't know if I ever noticed that tagline before either.
• 34:49
  "Innocence has a power evil cannot imagine."
• 34:52
  Kearns: Hmm.
• 34:55
  Jon: I like that.
• 34:56
  Kearns: heart of the movie, yeah, that she does escape.
• 34:59
  Okay.
• 35:00
  Ryan: just...
• 35:01
  Kearns: So now
• 35:02
  Jon: All right.
• 35:03
  Kearns: the next two.
• 35:04
  Jon: You gotta slash the next two, and Ryan, you still have choices to make.
• 35:09
  You have one and one.
• 35:12
  Let's see how much this sting is gonna be
• 35:15
  Ryan: Ooh.
• 35:17
  Jon: There's The Shape of Water.
• 35:18
  Kearns: the Trollhunter for The Shape of Water for sure, but
• 35:21
  this doesn't, like, destroy me.
• 35:22
  I did enjoy this movie too, but between this and Pan's Labyrinth,
• 35:26
  I'm cool with my choice.
• 35:27
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 35:28
  Ryan: number one?
• 35:29
  That's my
• 35:30
  Kearns: You'll never know.
• 35:30
  Well, John says he didn't organize it where number one is where it is.
• 35:34
  It's just random.
• 35:36
  But...
• 35:37
  Jon: It is random.
• 35:38
  It is random.
• 35:39
  I do know the order this time, but it is random.
• 35:43
  Ryan: Pan's Labyrinth.
• 35:44
  I'll stash Shape of Water.
• 35:46
  I love Shape of
• 35:46
  Kearns: Nice, man.
• 35:47
  Respect, Ryan.
• 35:48
  Ryan: so good.
• 35:50
  Kearns: Respect.
• 35:50
  Ryan: Oh, I-- when,
• 35:52
  Jon: I don't...
• 35:52
  Ryan: his hand bitten off, and
• 35:54
  Kearns: That's the best.
• 35:55
  Ryan: it's very... I appreciate it because Guillermo del Toro basically did something
• 36:00
  with a universal horror monster that no one thought about doing, and that's
• 36:04
  with the creature from the Black Lagoon.
• 36:06
  Kearns: And it got a
• 36:07
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 36:07
  Kearns: trophy for it too.
• 36:08
  And glutes.
• 36:09
  Ryan: it's
• 36:09
  Kearns: Look at
• 36:10
  Jon: Yep.
• 36:10
  Ryan: it's a great homage, and they gave, you know, they gave the creature love.
• 36:15
  They gave it, like, more...
• 36:17
  Kearns: the back end on that thing, huh?
• 36:21
  Yeah.
• 36:21
  Jon: Yeah.
• 36:22
  Kearns: in love with it.
• 36:24
  Jon: Yeah.
• 36:25
  Kearns: some junk in that trunk.
• 36:27
  Jon: uh, probably the front end, too.
• 36:30
  Ryan: fins.
• 36:31
  Jon: I like... I really like this, this poster, too, with the pop
• 36:36
  of the red against all the blue.
• 36:38
  Kearns: I mean, that's vintage, right?
• 36:40
  Del Toro
• 36:41
  Jon: Yeah.
• 36:41
  Kearns: 101.
• 36:43
  Gotta use
• 36:43
  Jon: Yep.
• 36:44
  Kearns: And he
• 36:44
  Jon: Yep.
• 36:45
  Kearns: he put steroids under that and then set it loose in Frankenstein.
• 36:49
  Ryan: Yeah, he did.
• 36:50
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 36:51
  Kearns: Yeah, he loves
• 36:51
  Jon: Yep.
• 36:52
  Yep.
• 36:52
  Kearns: man.
• 36:52
  I really want him to do
• 36:53
  Jon: Yeah.
• 36:54
  Kearns: of Madness.
• 36:54
  I'm, like, freaking out over the fact that it's so close to getting done.
• 36:58
  But, uh,
• 36:58
  Ryan: Ooh.
• 36:59
  Kearns: but now he's got a whole-- They threw a million projects at him as soon
• 37:03
  as, uh, he did Frankenstein, so now who knows what we're gonna end up getting.
• 37:08
  Ryan: Hellboy
• 37:09
  Jon: Yeah.
• 37:11
  We might.
• 37:12
  I, I wouldn't mind a Hellboy 3 if it's produced by.
• 37:17
  I don't, I don't want him to direct another Hellboy.
• 37:20
  Kearns: Yeah, I agree.
• 37:21
  It was a
• 37:21
  Jon: I think he's g- I think he's moved past it.
• 37:24
  Kearns: his wheelhouse right now.
• 37:26
  Jon: I hate... It's, it's sort...
• 37:28
  Ryan: gotta
• 37:28
  Jon: Yeah, it's sort of l- I mean, he can write it, he can produce.
• 37:33
  I, I, I wanna see him direct more...
• 37:36
  Kearns: everybody, and Ron Perlman will make it himself.
• 37:38
  Ryan: Ooh.
• 37:39
  Touche.
• 37:41
  Jon: All right.
• 37:43
  Your last one.
• 37:44
  You're both slashing this one, and I don't think you'll be disappointed.
• 37:49
  Kearns: Oh no, I am so disappointed.
• 37:51
  Are you kidding me?
• 37:51
  I love this movie.
• 37:53
  Ryan: I'm
• 37:53
  Kearns: I love this movie.
• 37:55
  Ryan: It's a
• 37:55
  Kearns: This is one of my favorites, dude.
• 37:58
  I've seen this movie probably 10 plus times.
• 38:00
  Jon: I,
• 38:00
  Kearns: Not even kidding.
• 38:01
  Uh,
• 38:03
  Jon: I hit a sweet spot with you this week, huh?
• 38:06
  Kearns: me on the last one.
• 38:07
  That was a good, good place for Mothman.
• 38:09
  Ryan: four choices.
• 38:10
  Four choices.
• 38:12
  Jon: Yeah
• 38:12
  Kearns: the only, like the one that I would choose this over Shape of
• 38:15
  Water and I would, swap Trollhunter.
• 38:18
  I knew I was gonna regret it, but I wanted to give that movie
• 38:20
  respect because it does deserve
• 38:21
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 38:22
  Kearns: Mothman Prophecies deserves way more respect though.
• 38:26
  Ryan: Shape of
• 38:26
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 38:28
  Kearns: Such a good horror movie.
• 38:29
  Mothman Prophecies will keep you tense the first time you watch it
• 38:32
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 38:32
  Kearns: long time.
• 38:34
  Jon: Uh, this is another one that grew on me.
• 38:36
  I did not like Mothman Prophecies when it came out, like at all.
• 38:41
  And I've watched it a couple times since, and I've, I've come to really like it.
• 38:45
  Kearns: I'm gonna have to toss it on like tonight to go to bed.
• 38:51
  As I let out an insane yawn on the podcast.
• 38:53
  Um,
• 38:54
  Ryan: See,
• 38:55
  Kearns: no.
• 38:56
  Ryan: it
• 38:57
  Jon: All right.
• 38:58
  Kearns: Well, I was also pretty obsessed with the, the entire S- Mothman story, the
• 39:03
  Jon: Yeah.
• 39:04
  Kearns: and everything.
• 39:05
  Like there's a whole
• 39:06
  Jon: Yeah.
• 39:06
  Kearns: you guys ever wanna go down a rabbit hole, that's a fun one.
• 39:09
  Jon: Yeah.
• 39:10
  The Mothman stuff is pretty interesting.
• 39:12
  Kearns: Quite,
• 39:13
  Ryan: been a long
• 39:14
  Kearns: quite deep.
• 39:16
  And back into Death of a Unicorn
• 39:19
  Jon: I know there are people who don't like, like this
• 39:21
  sort of legacy Godzilla run.
• 39:25
  I, I like it.
• 39:26
  I like, it's... Are they great movies?
• 39:28
  Are they like the '50s and '60s Godzillas that we grew up watching?
• 39:32
  No, but th- these, these work.
• 39:35
  They're good popcorn movies, like
• 39:36
  Kearns: they are
• 39:37
  Jon: they're good summer blockbuster fun movies.
• 39:40
  Kearns: time getting through the most recent movie, though.
• 39:42
  We were-- We watched it in the theater, me and a few buddies, and I was sitting
• 39:46
  there like, "Oh my God, it's like Godzilla monster fight electric bugaloo,"
• 39:49
  Ryan: that the one with
• 39:50
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 39:51
  Kearns: where they're, like, drop kicking each other.
• 39:53
  Yeah, they, they, uh...
• 39:55
  He's red, Scar.
• 39:56
  Ryan: Okay.
• 39:57
  Kearns: like an
• 39:57
  Jon: Yeah.
• 39:58
  Kearns: thing.
• 39:58
  Ryan: I haven't seen it
• 39:59
  Jon: Yeah, that one, that part- Yeah, there are parts of it that
• 40:04
  are, that with that one that are tough to get through, but...
• 40:07
  Kearns: campy stuff.
• 40:08
  But
• 40:08
  Jon: But that's also, also- Mm-hmm.
• 40:12
  Kearns: two.
• 40:13
  Jon: Yep, minus, minus one.
• 40:16
  But yeah, yeah, that, uh, that teaser trailer hit.
• 40:19
  So did the teaser trailer for "Resident Evil."
• 40:21
  Kearns: That actually is...
• 40:24
  Have you played the
• 40:25
  Jon: I've been...
• 40:26
  Ryan: The new one?
• 40:27
  Kearns: No,
• 40:27
  Ryan: No.
• 40:27
  I'm
• 40:28
  Kearns: not yet.
• 40:55
  Ryan: or the whatever they did for, um, like the NPCs is like they're on their own
• 41:01
  Kearns: Right.
• 41:11
  Ah, I see.
• 41:13
  Okay.
• 41:13
  Ryan: pretty cool concept.
• 41:14
  And the new one coming out, I don't-- It's basically Silent Hill 2 in London
• 41:20
  Kearns: Okay.
• 41:21
  Ryan: literally.
• 41:22
  Jon: it, is it, is the triangle-headed guy in it?
• 41:25
  Kearns: Always.
• 41:26
  Ryan: Head?
• 41:26
  Yes.
• 41:27
  He's, he, he's in
• 41:28
  Jon: The triangle head, yeah.
• 41:29
  Kearns: He's a mainstay now.
• 41:30
  Yeah, he's like
• 41:31
  Jon: The guy with the triangle.
• 41:32
  Ryan: Head.
• 41:33
  Pyramid, Pyramid Head.
• 41:35
  Jon: I, I'll clo- I'll close that loop while we're, Silent Hill ca- comes up.
• 41:39
  I watched the new one.
• 41:42
  Oh my
• 41:43
  Kearns: It's
• 41:44
  Jon: goodness.
• 41:45
  It is...
• 41:46
  Ryan: You...
• 41:47
  Jon: I, I... And disappointment would be like three steps above what this is.
• 41:52
  Ryan: It would
• 41:53
  Kearns: They could've just taken a step towards Ba- Baskin and made the movie
• 41:56
  Jon: It, it
• 41:57
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 41:58
  Jon: w- it would be, it would be better if they had taken the money
• 42:01
  and given it to another project.
• 42:03
  That, that's the only way you could've saved this movie, give it to somebody
• 42:07
  else to make something different.
• 42:09
  Ryan: Yes, or Parasite Eve.
• 42:11
  Kearns: Hoorah.
• 42:11
  Oh, Parasite Eve, dude.
• 42:13
  Let's talk about it.
• 42:15
  my sister's in her bedroom blasting Britney Spears, Ba- "... Hit
• 42:18
  Me Baby One More Time," and I'm playing Parasite Eve on my, like, TV
• 42:22
  screen that's this big, like this.
• 42:25
  Oh, and I had a, I had a, um, on the CD for that too, so when I got to
• 42:30
  the final boss fight, it would stop after the second transformation,
• 42:33
  Ryan: Oh.
• 42:34
  Kearns: I did everything to try to fix that freaking scratch.
• 42:37
  It was a Blockbuster rental too.
• 42:40
  I did the cleaner, I did... I even tried to use candle wax towards
• 42:43
  the end 'cause it was a rental,
• 42:45
  Ryan: cleaner?
• 42:46
  Kearns: dumbest idea, obviously.
• 42:47
  Then I spent the entire time cleaning the
• 42:49
  Jon: Yeah.
• 42:49
  Wait I, I had that experience with Dying Light 2.
• 43:03
  Kearns: Oh,
• 43:04
  Jon: Like, I played Dying Light 2 when it first came out.
• 43:07
  I got all the way up to the end, and like you can't even like read online how it
• 43:11
  ends because there's different endings depending on what, how you, what you did.
• 43:17
  And I get, I got... I finished the final boss.
• 43:20
  I finished the game.
• 43:21
  I got to the cut scene at the end that shows like your fate and everything.
• 43:26
  It would, it crashed every time for a month.
• 43:31
  I was just like, "Done." I went back to it like a year and a half, two years
• 43:35
  later, and it worked, and it was so anticlimactic I didn't even care anymore.
• 43:41
  Kearns: Oh, really?
• 43:42
  Ryan: like the
• 43:42
  Kearns: It was that
• 43:55
  Ryan: Oh,
• 43:56
  Kearns: hungry?
• 43:57
  Ryan: yeah, like, um- My friend, he had it on PC.
• 44:01
  It worked fine.
• 44:03
  My PS4 copy just, like, broke.
• 44:05
  And I waited for
• 44:07
  Kearns: Dear
• 44:07
  Ryan: It was more for a PS5 game based on what, uh, CD Projekt Red
• 44:11
  did with the engine, and it worked fine, and it was, it was worth it
• 44:15
  because they gave free updates.
• 44:18
  They did a lot just to kinda save their image.
• 44:21
  I mean, these are the guys who
• 44:21
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 44:23
  Ryan: they mess up on this game.
• 44:24
  But it turned out to be a really good game.
• 44:27
  I, I have a high praise for Cyberpunk.
• 44:30
  Kearns: listeners, we
• 44:30
  Jon: I, I m- I mean, it's kind of the same thing that happened with Days Gone.
• 44:34
  It came out so glitchy that it, it really, like it killed
• 44:39
  the, the opinion on that game.
• 44:41
  If people who've played, who play it now, there's still glitches, but
• 44:44
  people who've picked it up since like the last three years love the
• 44:48
  game because it's a great game.
• 44:50
  Ryan: like there's no more glitches anymore because I've been playing...
• 44:53
  Jon: They're still there.
• 44:55
  They're still there.
• 44:55
  Ryan: I have not
• 44:56
  Jon: There, there's still a few.
• 44:57
  Ryan: glitch.
• 44:59
  you wanna play Days Gone?
• 45:00
  It's
• 45:00
  Kearns: break, and when we came back, we started talking about video games, and we
• 45:05
  have not segued back into the episode yet.
• 45:12
  Jon: We have dot.
• 45:13
  Ryan: in Days Gone, though?
• 45:14
  Unicorns.
• 45:15
  It's a travesty.
• 45:17
  Kearns: It is a
• 45:18
  Jon: There's no unicorns.
• 45:19
  Kearns: named Travesty in this movie.
• 45:20
  That would've been kinda cool.
• 45:21
  Ryan: basically
• 45:22
  Jon: That would've been
• 45:23
  Kearns: But
• 45:24
  Ryan: is travesty.
• 45:24
  Jon: good.
• 45:25
  Kearns: have another couple minutes of content to go over for the movie before
• 45:28
  we give our review, so we should, we
• 45:31
  Jon: Yeah.
• 45:31
  Paul Rudd's character, Elliot, is, you know, he widowed.
• 45:36
  He's trying to d- He thinks he's doing what's right for the kid.
• 45:39
  He thinks he's taking care of Ridley.
• 45:41
  Ryan: He thinks, but it, it's not the right way, especially when he bludgeons,
• 45:46
  you know, the unicorn with a tire iron.
• 45:48
  Jon: I mean, that
• 45:49
  Kearns: D word.
• 45:50
  Jon: or
• 45:50
  Kearns: no
• 45:51
  Jon: He, he bl- he, he bludgeons the unicorn to presumed end.
• 46:00
  Ryan: Okay, end.
• 46:02
  Kearns: it's so dumb that YouTube does this to us, but anyway.
• 46:06
  yeah.
• 46:07
  Jon: To its presumed passing.
• 46:09
  Kearns: They, merc this thing multiple times.
• 46:11
  Ryan: Yeah, they
• 46:12
  Jon: Multiple times.
• 46:14
  Kearns: times.
• 46:14
  Ryan: it's like that's where the
• 46:16
  Kearns: That
• 46:47
  Ryan: that was cool.
• 46:48
  That warmed my
• 46:48
  Kearns: was cool, actually.
• 46:49
  That
• 46:50
  Jon: Yeah,
• 46:51
  Kearns: is
• 46:51
  Jon: I re-
• 46:52
  Kearns: the whole parallel between Paul Rudd being a horrible parent
• 46:54
  and what a good parent does.
• 46:57
  Jon: Yeah, yeah.
• 46:58
  And I, I think that 15 minutes of turnaround in his character is why he's
• 47:07
  included in the unicorn restoration,
• 47:11
  Ryan: Redemption.
• 47:12
  Kearns: Yeah, resurrection.
• 47:15
  But yeah.
• 47:16
  And it is nice
• 47:17
  Jon: 'Cause...
• 47:17
  Kearns: least attempt a character redemption with him.
• 47:20
  Ryan: I'm--
• 47:21
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 47:21
  Ryan: have to.
• 47:22
  Jon: even if it is for the most part really misguided even then, like, you
• 47:28
  know, he's shoving Ridley out of the house and falling out of a window and
• 47:33
  whatever so he can, he can face the unicorn himself and presumably save her,
• 47:39
  but they... She's the one that has a clue.
• 47:44
  Ryan: It's true.
• 47:47
  Jon: Ridley didn't need saving.
• 47:49
  Ridley needed understanding.
• 47:51
  Kearns: Ooh, what a... That's a banger of a line right there, bud.
• 47:54
  Ryan: It,
• 47:55
  Kearns: You nailed it.
• 47:57
  Ryan: She just... You know, but at the age that Jenna Ortega's portraying in
• 48:01
  the movie, it seems like, you know,
• 48:04
  Jon: Yeah,
• 48:04
  Ryan: understand because her father basically shipped
• 48:06
  her out to boarding school,
• 48:08
  Kearns: That's the teenager thing.
• 48:10
  That's the
• 48:10
  Jon: I
• 48:12
  Kearns: aren't
• 48:12
  Jon: mean, he...
• 48:13
  Kearns: 'Cause
• 48:14
  Jon: Yeah, yeah.
• 48:16
  Ryan: It's true.
• 48:17
  Kearns: we're, w- we remember that age, we remember being that way, once you get to
• 48:23
  a certain age, my kids are teenagers, I'm definitely gonna be so far ensconced into
• 48:27
  the world of being an old fart that I'm,
• 48:30
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 48:30
  Mm-hmm.
• 48:30
  Kearns: "You don't get me, Dad, and my electronica EDM music that I love. I'm Gen
• 48:36
  Alpha." Or whatever they're gonna be like.
• 48:40
  Ryan: EDM music.
• 48:43
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 48:44
  I'll be listening to Linkin Park, which will be classic rock.
• 48:47
  Ryan: one of them's gonna be listening to death metal.
• 48:49
  know it.
• 48:50
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 48:51
  Kearns: I know which one too.
• 48:53
  Ryan: they
• 48:55
  Jon: I don't know, it's never the one you expect.
• 48:58
  Kearns: you might be right.
• 48:59
  Might have a goth phase coming with, for my oldest.
• 49:01
  Is that what we're going for?
• 49:03
  Ryan: Thrash
• 49:03
  Kearns: even goth,
• 49:04
  Jon: Maybe.
• 49:05
  Kearns: phase, which is... They're different.
• 49:07
  different
• 49:07
  Jon: They are, they are different.
• 49:10
  Kearns: But anyway.
• 49:12
  Jon: You can have a, you can have a goth metal phase, but being goth
• 49:16
  and being metal are not the same.
• 49:18
  Kearns: Nah, they can coexist though.
• 49:20
  Ryan: Yes, they
• 49:21
  Jon: Yes.
• 49:22
  Kearns: point.
• 49:22
  Jon: They overlap.
• 49:23
  There are definitely overlapping points.
• 49:26
  Kearns: Venn diagram.
• 49:27
  Is Ortega goth in this?
• 49:29
  No.
• 49:29
  Ryan: More punk.
• 49:30
  Jon: No.
• 49:31
  Kearns: She's definitely
• 49:32
  Jon: Mm,
• 49:32
  Kearns: but even that, I think
• 49:33
  Jon: more punk, but not... Yeah, she's, she's a hurt, fragile kid.
• 49:38
  Her mom's gone, you know?
• 49:42
  I mean, not in what you would d- not in what we really define emo as, but kind of.
• 49:50
  Kearns: to be considered to be weak and whiny too, and she's not
• 49:53
  Jon: Yeah.
• 49:55
  Ryan: Fair,
• 49:56
  Jon: not e- either really.
• 49:57
  She's, yeah, she just, she just needs Dad, and
• 50:03
  Ryan: He's
• 50:03
  Jon: Dad thinks he's d- I mean, I, I, I'll give him credit bec-
• 50:08
  Kearns: Paul Rudd.
• 50:09
  Jon: yeah.
• 50:10
  Yeah.
• 50:11
  I, I, I'll g- I'll give him the benefit of I think he intended well.
• 50:16
  Kearns: Yeah, I think you're right
• 50:17
  Jon: But he's also, he's also... Like, there, there's definitely
• 50:22
  moments in this where it's not about doing the best thing for her.
• 50:26
  It's about enriching himself
• 50:30
  Ryan: which is horrible.
• 50:31
  Jon: and end- endearing himself, like agreeing to go
• 50:35
  on a unicorn hunt with Odell.
• 50:37
  Ryan: Which
• 50:38
  Kearns: was wild.
• 50:38
  Indeed.
• 51:06
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 51:07
  Kearns: think it
• 51:08
  Jon: he, I mean, it, he, he go, he goes out with, like, rich guy arrogance
• 51:14
  that I'm gonna be able to sweet talk this unicorn into peace and letting
• 51:20
  me touch its horn and, you know.
• 51:23
  Kearns: That was a pretty cool end for him too.
• 51:25
  And by the way, he just got a new
• 51:26
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 51:27
  Kearns: which is the best part.
• 51:28
  Jon: Yep.
• 51:29
  Kearns: Best part, and he ruins it 'cause it's
• 51:32
  Jon: Yep.
• 51:32
  Kearns: enough.
• 51:34
  Jon: Yep.
• 51:34
  Kearns: The unicorn's name was Luigi, by the way.
• 51:37
  Ryan: What?
• 51:38
  Kearns: You guys didn't know that.
• 51:39
  Jon: Mm.
• 51:41
  Ryan: The male one?
• 51:43
  Kearns: Yeah, the male one.
• 51:44
  Ryan: Okay.
• 51:45
  Just wanna make sure.
• 51:46
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 51:47
  Kearns: female one was Peach But anyway, anyway,
• 51:51
  Ryan: is Mario.
• 51:52
  All right.
• 51:53
  Kearns: it is time to move on, I think, to reviews.
• 51:58
  Ryan: Oh, you don't-- I was gonna say, you don't wanna get into the other end scenes?
• 52:01
  'Cause Will Poulter had a
• 52:02
  Kearns: We can, we can blast through them if you want.
• 52:05
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 52:06
  Ryan: had a great end scene when he got kicked.
• 52:10
  Jon: Did you just make him French Canadian?
• 52:12
  Kearns: He's been doing a lot of interesting things with names.
• 52:15
  Ryan: Will Pou-
• 52:16
  Jon: Will Poulter.
• 52:17
  Kearns: is G-L-E-R-M-O.
• 52:20
  Ryan: well, Will Poulter, you know, get--
• 52:23
  Jon: Will Poulter.
• 52:25
  Ryan: he gets,
• 52:26
  Jon: Oui, oui.
• 52:27
  Ryan: gets kicked in the head, man, and it's brutal, but it's like, it's
• 52:31
  a feel-good end, you know what I mean?
• 52:33
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 52:34
  Ryan: little spoiled brat.
• 52:35
  Jon: Yeah.
• 52:36
  Yeah.
• 52:37
  Ryan: B or Belinda, I feel like-- I felt bad for her She
• 52:42
  gets disemboweled and it's...
• 52:44
  Jon: Man.
• 52:46
  I mean, the only thing I felt bad for her about was that Shep wusses
• 52:53
  out on taking care of things for her so she doesn't go out so badly.
• 52:59
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 53:00
  Jon: But I mean, it-- And it is weird because she does kind of get it the worst.
• 53:06
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 53:07
  Ryan: She gets chomped.
• 53:08
  Jon: you usually, you usually sort of reserve the worst
• 53:14
  ends for the worst character.
• 53:17
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 53:19
  Jon: And she wasn't.
• 53:20
  I mean, she's close,
• 53:23
  Ryan: Oh, would you k-
• 53:24
  Jon: but I th- O- Odell is worse than she is, and O- Odell gets
• 53:28
  sort of a, the just ending.
• 53:32
  Ryan: Would you have,
• 53:33
  Jon: But she gets brutalized.
• 53:35
  Ryan: flipped the two endings, like have Will Poulter Odell's ending, Richard
• 53:41
  E. Grant, and have Richard E. Grant go
• 53:43
  Jon: No.
• 53:44
  No, I, I, I think the Odell scene is perfect because it's, it is the arrogance
• 53:52
  of that type of human being to think that I can just talk to this beast
• 53:58
  and it will conform to what I want.
• 54:00
  Ryan: Fair.
• 54:02
  Jon: I think that works fantastically for him.
• 54:06
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 54:07
  Ryan: All right.
• 54:08
  I can't--
• 54:09
  Kearns: Would you say it was like a one-star death or
• 54:11
  like a five-star death or?
• 54:16
  Jon: He's a, he's about a 4+, 4.25 star death.
• 54:21
  Kearns: Nice.
• 54:21
  Jon: I, I take it that means you wanna hit some reviews, Terrence.
• 54:25
  Kearns: losing consciousness.
• 54:27
  It's time for reviews, boys.
• 54:30
  Jon: All right.
• 54:31
  So let's hit 'em.
• 54:32
  Uh, first off, 52% critic score on Rotten Tomato
• 54:36
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 54:37
  Jon: So, you know, slightly above average, I guess.
• 54:41
  Um, 76% audience though, so, so fans have enjoyed this more than critics.
• 54:49
  Kearns: Racks.
• 54:49
  Jon: so I found a five-star.
• 54:52
  Ryan: Whoa.
• 54:52
  There
• 54:53
  Jon: it wasn't that hard to find a five-star.
• 54:56
  Ryan: it
• 54:56
  Jon: "This movie knew what it was and leaned into it.
• 55:01
  Worked well.
• 55:02
  Fun watch, likable characters, and sweet resolution.
• 55:08
  I like when movies are just movies.
• 55:11
  Not everything has to be a profound message."
• 55:14
  Kearns: there is one in this, but okay.
• 55:16
  Jon: They're, they're in... But you don't have to walk away with like, it,
• 55:20
  it hits you, it gives you the message, but it doesn't force the message on you.
• 55:24
  Kearns: And that is
• 55:25
  Jon: You can,
• 55:25
  Kearns: you're right.
• 55:26
  Jon: you can choose to take that message and say, "All
• 55:29
  right, this is anti-capitalist.
• 55:30
  This is, you know, rich people are ruining things.
• 55:33
  This is anti, you know, uh, medications for profit." But
• 55:40
  you don't have to get to that,
• 55:42
  Ryan: Yeah, 'cause it's just
• 55:43
  Jon: which I like.
• 55:44
  Ryan: a fun movie.
• 55:45
  Jon: Yeah.
• 55:46
  Yeah.
• 55:47
  Ryan: are available for it, which is pretty
• 55:49
  Jon: Yeah.
• 55:51
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 55:52
  Jon: S- All right.
• 55:54
  So I, obviously there are people who don't like Death of a
• 55:57
  Unicorn, such as this one star.
• 56:00
  "I really wanted to like this, but it was slow, and I gave up halfway through.
• 56:06
  No characters that I was drawn to, and for a comedy, I found it flat.
• 56:12
  Even good actors can't do much with a bad script."
• 56:15
  Kearns: There's some,
• 56:16
  Ryan: I disagree.
• 56:17
  Kearns: some chops to that review, though.
• 56:19
  script is a little hollow.
• 56:21
  The, the comedy is fine.
• 56:23
  I, I disagree with that part, but the, the fact that you could
• 56:26
  take or leave any character in this movie is kinda true, too.
• 56:29
  Even Jenna
• 56:29
  Jon: Yeah, I... Yeah, if, and if, if you're not pulled in by either, either
• 56:36
  her or Elliot, y- I can see that.
• 56:38
  I mean, really Griff is my favorite character.
• 56:42
  Kearns: best.
• 56:44
  He's
• 56:44
  Jon: But
• 56:45
  Kearns: in the movie.
• 56:46
  Jon: yeah.
• 56:47
  Yeah.
• 56:47
  But they, they're... I can see where you get to that with, with Death of a Unicorn.
• 56:52
  I don't agree, but I can see how you get to that.
• 56:55
  I don't see how you get to a half star for Death of a Unicorn, but this person did.
• 57:00
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 57:02
  Jon: "I cannot believe this movie actually got made.
• 57:06
  There's not one saving grace in the entire movie.
• 57:10
  Awful waste of time.
• 57:12
  Awful.
• 57:13
  Just awful.
• 57:14
  I want my time back.
• 57:16
  How is this so bad with such an excellent cast?"
• 57:20
  Kearns: Fun cast.
• 57:21
  Ryan: Uh.
• 57:22
  Kearns: There's the half part of the star.
• 57:24
  Excellent cast.
• 57:25
  But, eh,
• 57:25
  Jon: Yeah.
• 57:26
  Yep, that's where the half come... I mean,
• 57:28
  Kearns: it.
• 57:30
  Jon: I, I g-
• 57:31
  Kearns: there that feel this way
• 57:33
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 57:34
  I, I think, I think sometimes those people are the people who saw the
• 57:38
  message and don't like the message.
• 57:41
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 57:43
  Could be.
• 57:44
  It's the member of the Bayer family
• 57:46
  Ryan: But...
• 57:48
  Kearns: battling it out, making sure these reviews get knocked down a peg or two.
• 57:53
  Jon: Yep.
• 57:54
  All
• 57:54
  Kearns: What do we, uh... Is
• 57:55
  Jon: right.
• 57:57
  Yeah, so we know what other people think.
• 57:59
  How about you guys?
• 58:01
  Ryan: Oh, do you want-- I'll go first.
• 58:03
  All right.
• 58:04
  I'm gonna give it four stars out of five.
• 58:06
  Jon: Oui,
• 58:26
  Ryan: different version of a jerk.
• 58:27
  It's more of like that dad jerk, and he does
• 58:30
  Jon: oui.
• 58:52
  Kearns: for Ryan.
• 58:54
  Okay.
• 58:56
  Okay.
• 58:57
  Um, three and
• 59:01
  half because it's just a, a fun ride movie, and it was well done, and
• 59:04
  it does what it's supposed to do.
• 59:05
  I'm pretty quick, pretty quick with my
• 59:08
  Jon: Yeah.
• 59:10
  I, I thi- I think I sit where you are, Kearns.
• 59:13
  I think this is about a 3.5.
• 59:15
  I, I do ha- I do have the issue with the, the hollowness of the characters.
• 59:21
  I'd like to see... I would've liked a little more out of them.
• 59:26
  And listen, I talked the whole lead-up of this about how much
• 59:29
  I didn't like Elliot and...
• 59:31
  But that's fine.
• 59:32
  You sh- really shouldn't like Elliot for a lot of this movie.
• 59:36
  Um, I like a lot of the stuff they do with the, you know, the, the visions
• 59:41
  of the unicorns with the purple sort of universe-y... Like, I love that visual.
• 59:47
  I thought, uh, I think maybe I'd rather have seen practical
• 59:51
  unicorns over CGI, but, you know, 3.5 fits for "Death of a Unicorn."
• 59:59
  Kearns: Okay.
• 1:00:00
  Ryan: All
• 1:00:00
  Kearns: The CGI belies the sort of laziness that's inherent in this movie.
• 1:00:05
  Like, it's a, it... They didn't put a framework to make a film.
• 1:00:09
  is just a
• 1:00:10
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:00:10
  Kearns: to go and enjoy.
• 1:00:12
  Like you said, popcorn movie earlier, like the Godzilla movies, kinda like that.
• 1:00:16
  This
• 1:00:16
  Jon: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:17
  Kearns: and it-- that's fine.
• 1:00:19
  fine.
• 1:00:21
  right.
• 1:00:22
  I guess it's, I guess that's it for "Death of a Unicorn," guys.
• 1:00:25
  Time for our top fives.
• 1:00:27
  Ryan: fives?
• 1:00:28
  Jon: Yeah
• 1:00:28
  Ryan: Well,
• 1:00:28
  Kearns: boy
• 1:00:29
  Ryan: top fives.
• 1:00:30
  So this movie was produced by A24, I will be
• 1:00:36
  Kearns: Ew.
• 1:00:36
  Ryan: my top five A24 movies, and we're gonna start off with a banger.
• 1:00:42
  I do enjoy, uh, Currents does not enjoy this film, and I understand why,
• 1:00:47
  'cause it's similar to the classic Rosemary's Baby, and that is Hereditary.
• 1:00:52
  we're starting
• 1:00:53
  Kearns: I didn't not enjoy it, I just didn't think it was great.
• 1:00:56
  Ryan: Well, yeah, I mean, compared to Rosemary's Baby, which is
• 1:00:58
  a masterpiece, so I get it.
• 1:01:00
  But Hereditary, thinking about it, is in its own little Rosemary's Baby
• 1:01:06
  world, the modern-day Rosemary's Baby.
• 1:01:09
  It does have its memorable scenes.
• 1:01:11
  I mean, the mailbox,
• 1:01:14
  the mom on like, you know, on the wall jumping down chasing her son,
• 1:01:20
  the son breaking his nose on the desk
• 1:01:23
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 1:01:25
  Ryan: like,
• 1:01:26
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 1:01:27
  Ryan: consider it early A24, but it's what made A- 2018.
• 1:01:33
  So like when it was still, like they were picking up steam, and that's
• 1:01:36
  what helped them pick up steam.
• 1:01:40
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:01:41
  Uh, yeah, that definitely helped them grow.
• 1:01:43
  Ryan: yeah, 'cause I mean, everyone was talking about
• 1:01:45
  Jon: Hmm.
• 1:02:36
  Ryan: it's a fun film.
• 1:02:37
  We're gonna be talking about it later this year, so we'll, we'll save it for that.
• 1:02:41
  And that goes into number three.
• 1:02:43
  I believe we've mentioned it before on the podcast.
• 1:02:47
  It's a favorite of mine.
• 1:02:49
  It's Midsommar.
• 1:02:51
  I love Midsommar.
• 1:02:53
  A lot of people think it's too long.
• 1:02:55
  I think it's a perfect time.
• 1:02:56
  Um, it's got, it's got good hits.
• 1:03:00
  It keeps your attention from the opening.
• 1:03:03
  Kearns: hits
• 1:03:03
  Ryan: Well,
• 1:03:04
  Kearns: into the ground.
• 1:03:05
  Ryan: It's the best scene, man.
• 1:03:07
  It's one of the best
• 1:03:08
  Kearns: That's definitely, definitely what kicks the movie up a notch.
• 1:03:12
  Ryan: I mean, it kicks it up a-- For me, the start of it when it's like the
• 1:03:16
  whole asphy- asphyxiation scene with the
• 1:03:20
  Kearns: Asphyxiation.
• 1:03:22
  Jon: Fixation.
• 1:03:23
  Ryan: asphyxi-
• 1:03:24
  Jon: that word
• 1:03:24
  Kearns: It's a good one
• 1:03:26
  Ryan: with the carbon monoxide and stuff.
• 1:03:28
  I, it got my attention.
• 1:03:29
  Then trying to bring the main character, uh, played by Florence Pugh, into
• 1:03:35
  a position to feel better about herself after a terrible situation.
• 1:03:40
  It's just an interesting, like, journey she goes through as
• 1:03:44
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 1:03:45
  Ryan: people are trying to help her.
• 1:03:48
  yeah, I don't think I'm ever going to Sweden during that time,
• 1:03:50
  especially after watching that movie.
• 1:03:53
  And goes to number two, because are troublesome, AI is troublesome, but
• 1:03:59
  this movie's great, and it's Ex Machina.
• 1:04:02
  I, oh.
• 1:04:04
  Kearns: I'll take that kind of, uh, robot trouble over the
• 1:04:06
  kind that we've got right now.
• 1:04:08
  Ryan: you guys hooked me up on this movie.
• 1:04:10
  I love it.
• 1:04:12
  It's, ah,
• 1:04:13
  Kearns: This was another one you hadn't seen yet.
• 1:04:15
  That's right.
• 1:04:15
  Was it on your little
• 1:04:16
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:04:17
  Ryan: bought the 4K on that one after we talked about it and then,
• 1:04:21
  Kearns: But
• 1:04:21
  Ryan: good.
• 1:04:22
  Got the 4K
• 1:04:22
  Kearns: I mean, is it still on
• 1:04:25
  Ryan: yeah.
• 1:04:25
  Kearns: that you write down
• 1:04:27
  Ryan: all
• 1:04:27
  Kearns: the movies on?
• 1:04:29
  Yes.
• 1:04:29
  We gotta save that sucker.
• 1:04:58
  Love this movie.
• 1:04:59
  Ryan: my
• 1:05:00
  Kearns: A24?
• 1:05:01
  Ryan: That's 824.
• 1:05:03
  Kearns: All right.
• 1:05:04
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 1:05:04
  Kearns: right.
• 1:05:05
  They're not like Blumhouse with me or anything, but A24 lost a little stock.
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  Ryan: Yeah, I
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  Kearns: You know, you know why.
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  You know why.
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  Ryan: her back?
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  Kearns: should've been left where she was.
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  We didn't need to bring anybody anywhere.
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  Ryan: was gonna put that on the list, but I like Hereditary more.
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  Jon: I was sure that was gonna be your number five.
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  Kearns: too.
• 1:05:27
  Me too.
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  soon as you said, "Kearns doesn't like it, but I do," kinda thing, I was like,
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  "Oh, you bastard." Another excuse to bring up that garbage pile of a movie.
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  Ryan: I
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  Kearns: A24 did Barbarian as well, right?
• 1:05:39
  Ryan: Um, I don't know.
• 1:05:40
  That was Neon.
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  Kearns: It's Neon.
• 1:05:42
  You're right, you're
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  Jon: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Ryan: uh, Zach
• 1:05:45
  Kearns: Okay.
• 1:05:46
  Ryan: Yeah, but no, The Lighthouse, it, ah, it's so good, and the Cthulhu vibes,
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  H.P. Lovecraft, it's just intertwined.
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  Kearns: lore.
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  Give me more, give me more Prometheus lore, baby.
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  Little, little Sisyphean in there too.
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  It's very... A lot of laden with Greek mythology, the
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  sirens, the mermaids or sirens.
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  It's cool.
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  I like it.
• 1:06:10
  I love it.
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  Ryan: It's a deep character piece that just, it works,
• 1:06:14
  Kearns: So deep.
• 1:06:14
  Character piece is so deep inside of us.
• 1:06:17
  Ryan: it, like the tentacle.
• 1:06:19
  But John, what is your top five?
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  'Cause wh-
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  Jon: Oh.
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  Ryan: you, wh- which way did you go?
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  Jon: I feel like my top five was pretty obvious based on my Elliot hate.
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  I went top five bad dads.
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  Kearns: Nice.
• 1:06:38
  Ryan: is...
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  Jon: I've done bad moms before, it's time to hit bad dads.
• 1:06:42
  Ryan: Question.
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  Would you include Stepfather in your list?
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  Jon: I'll have to wait and find out, man.
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  No spoilers, no list spoilers.
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  Number five.
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  Number five, Victor Frankenstein.
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  Ryan: Well, yeah.
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  Kearns: done.
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  He's a
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  Jon: Across the board, any-- across, across different versions
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  and generations, one thing is clear about Victor, he is an unfit father.
• 1:07:14
  He abandons his creation when it fails to live up to his lofty expectations.
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  Victor leaves his monster to navigate a world he doesn't know or
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  understand and that doesn't want him.
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  Bad dad Victor.
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  Kearns: on that,
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  Ryan: That was
• 1:07:30
  Kearns: John.
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  Jon: Thank you.
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  Bad dad.
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  my number four is a twofer.
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  It is Patrick O'Flynn and Seamus Muldoon in George A.
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  Romero's "Survival of the Dead".
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  Kearns: is a niche one, everybody.
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  Only the real
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  Jon: Yep.
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  Kearns: this one.
• 1:07:49
  Jon: Yep.
• 1:07:50
  So the fathers in the final chapter of Romero's zombie saga
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  are not inherently bad dads.
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  They don't do s-stereotypically bad dad things, except for their unwillingness
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  to end a Hatfield and McCoy style feud in the middle of a zombie apocalypse.
• 1:08:12
  You have something to fight besides each other, and you
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  choose to continue this fight with catastrophic results for your family.
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  Kearns: A good one.
• 1:08:26
  That's a good choice.
• 1:08:28
  Jon: Yeah, I wa- I was trying to figure out a way to fit Romero
• 1:08:31
  in the list this week 'cause
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  Kearns: It's been too long.
• 1:08:34
  Jon: it had been a while.
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  my number three We're gonna go with, Eldon Robison, who's also re- more known
• 1:08:42
  as Daddy in The People Under the Stairs.
• 1:08:48
  Yep.
• 1:08:49
  He's an all-around bad dude.
• 1:08:52
  he's evicting cancer patient tenants.
• 1:08:56
  He shoots them, he eats them, and then his own kids get kind of a worse fate.
• 1:09:02
  He lock, keeps them locked in the basement when they misbehave, and they're forced
• 1:09:07
  to resort to cannibalism themselves.
• 1:09:10
  That's a bad dad.
• 1:09:12
  Ryan: it
• 1:09:12
  Kearns: of
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  Jon: Uh, I
• 1:09:15
  Kearns: of the
• 1:09:16
  Jon: have two worse.
• 1:09:19
  I have two worse.
• 1:09:22
  One of them I think you guys can guess, and he's my number two.
• 1:09:26
  It's our guy Jack Torrance
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  Kearns: course.
• 1:09:30
  Ryan: Yep.
• 1:09:30
  Kearns: he's a bad dad.
• 1:09:31
  Ryan: I thought he was good.
• 1:09:34
  Kearns: made him do it, Your Honor.
• 1:09:35
  Ryan: Yes, he did.
• 1:09:36
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:09:37
  Kearns: for the fact that he's
• 1:09:38
  Jon: did...
• 1:09:38
  Kearns: the crap out of them before the ghosts...
• 1:09:41
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:09:42
  Yeah.
• 1:09:42
  Um, the Overlook Hotel may have pushed Jack over the edge to homicidal
• 1:09:47
  maniac, but it was always in him.
• 1:09:51
  We know on one drunken rage-filled occasion he broke Danny's arm, and
• 1:09:56
  it's strongly implied that this was not the only time he abused that kid.
• 1:10:02
  And there are definite fan theories about a whole other type of abuse too.
• 1:10:08
  Kearns: let's hope not.
• 1:10:10
  Ryan: No.
• 1:10:11
  Kearns: Kubrick version,
• 1:10:13
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 1:10:13
  Jon: There... Yeah, no, there...
• 1:10:16
  Ryan: 100%.
• 1:10:17
  Jon: I mean, I would ha- I would have to watch it again with an eye
• 1:10:21
  towards that theory, but the stuff that they lay out in a couple of the
• 1:10:27
  posts about that, kinda convincing.
• 1:10:30
  Kearns: to take a
• 1:10:32
  Jon: convincing.
• 1:10:34
  Kearns: Do, do, do,
• 1:10:35
  Jon: And my number one bad dad for this week, I'm sorry, Ryan, you're incorrect.
• 1:10:43
  It is a bad dad that we've talked about before, and it is
• 1:10:46
  our guy Don from 28 Weeks Later.
• 1:10:49
  Kearns: yeah, that'll work.
• 1:10:50
  Ryan: he's a
• 1:10:51
  Kearns: like this bad dad the best.
• 1:10:52
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:10:53
  Kearns: is the
• 1:10:54
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:10:54
  Kearns: a 3K super fast while his wife's
• 1:10:57
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:10:58
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:10:59
  We talked at great length during our episode about his cowardice running
• 1:11:03
  from his wife's fate, leaving her alone.
• 1:11:08
  But then it's his complicity in the spread of the virus in the quarantine
• 1:11:12
  zone, and his just general lack of interest in his own kids who help
• 1:11:19
  vio- break that quarantine zone and ruin the safety of thousands.
• 1:11:25
  I mean,
• 1:11:25
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 1:11:27
  Jon: listen, they, they set off something that we now know
• 1:11:30
  goes at least another 28 years
• 1:11:32
  Kearns: Right.
• 1:11:33
  They put Hawkeye in danger.
• 1:11:35
  He, he risked Imogen Poots' career.
• 1:11:35
  This guy's a
• 1:11:40
  Jon: And not only does he do all that, once he's turned, who's he going after?
• 1:11:45
  Ryan: the kids.
• 1:11:47
  Jon: His kids.
• 1:11:48
  Kearns: Right away.
• 1:11:49
  Bad-- The worst
• 1:11:50
  Jon: Don,
• 1:11:51
  Kearns: zombified.
• 1:11:51
  Jon: Don is the worst.
• 1:11:53
  Don is the worst dad.
• 1:11:54
  Kearns: Well done.
• 1:11:56
  Jon: stepfather's not a dad, but he definitely... He was definitely... He was
• 1:12:00
  gonna be five before I pulled Romero out.
• 1:12:03
  Kearns: Well
• 1:12:03
  Ryan: All
• 1:12:04
  Kearns: done.
• 1:12:04
  Ryan: close.
• 1:12:05
  Kearns: know, the dad in Frailty starts out as you, you're thinking he's the
• 1:12:10
  worst dad, and then you find out, oh no,
• 1:12:12
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:12:12
  Kearns: dad
• 1:12:14
  Ryan: a good
• 1:12:14
  Kearns: He's the best dad.
• 1:12:16
  Jon: He, he was getting votes for this list too.
• 1:12:20
  Kearns: But
• 1:12:21
  Ryan: is he really bad?
• 1:12:22
  Kearns: those were holy weapons.
• 1:12:23
  Ryan: Go
• 1:12:24
  Kearns: He was a messenger of Gord.
• 1:12:26
  Jon: mean, I mean, he's kinda bad.
• 1:12:28
  He does, he does create at least one serial killer.
• 1:12:32
  Ryan: yeah.
• 1:12:33
  Kearns: and one righteous slayer of them.
• 1:12:36
  Ryan: All
• 1:12:36
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:12:37
  Ryan: right.
• 1:12:37
  Kearns: Cain/Abel situation.
• 1:12:39
  Let's go, Bibble.
• 1:12:41
  say the actual words 'cause we don't wanna get flagged.
• 1:12:44
  All right, everybody.
• 1:12:46
  That was Death of a
• 1:12:47
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:12:48
  Kearns: for this week.
• 1:12:49
  Hope you enjoyed it.
• 1:12:50
  If you did, like and subscribe.
• 1:12:52
  Jon: Y-
• 1:12:54
  Kearns: week for, I think, the first Flintstones movie, right?
• 1:12:58
  Ryan: The first
• 1:12:58
  Jon: definitely the first Flintstone movie is next.
• 1:13:01
  Kearns: even know what
• 1:13:02
  Jon: I,
• 1:13:02
  Kearns: coming out next week, so we can't name it.
• 1:13:04
  Ryan: are you just mentioning it because it came out on 4K?
• 1:13:07
  John
• 1:13:07
  Kearns: I didn't realize that.
• 1:13:09
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 1:13:09
  Kearns: I didn't realize it came out at all.
• 1:13:10
  It just popped out of my head.
• 1:13:11
  Ryan: Halle Berry.
• 1:13:14
  Jon: We have a good one next week too.
• 1:13:16
  Kearns: Can't mention it 'cause who knows what he's gonna edit and what
• 1:13:19
  we're actually gonna come out with.
• 1:13:20
  Ryan: hold on, hold on, hold on.
• 1:13:22
  Wait a minute.
• 1:13:23
  We're gonna do, we're gonna be coming out with Good Boy,
• 1:13:25
  and then after Good Boy John.
• 1:13:29
  Jon: After Good Boy, after Death of a Unicorn.
• 1:13:32
  Ryan: Good
• 1:13:32
  Kearns: be coming out after, good boy.
• 1:13:34
  Ryan: then
• 1:13:34
  Kearns: so
• 1:13:34
  Jon: Go- you'll, you'll be, you will, you'll have just heard us talk about Good
• 1:13:39
  Boy when you put this one on, and then the next one is going to be our friend Bilal.
• 1:13:45
  Ryan: Oh,
• 1:13:46
  Kearns: Ooh, Basket
• 1:13:48
  Jon: Basket Case is next.
• 1:13:50
  Kearns: Oh, we're going back to when I would sneak in and watch
• 1:13:53
  HBO when I was a wee little sprout.
• 1:13:56
  Cool, cool.
• 1:13:57
  All
• 1:13:57
  Jon: I c-
• 1:13:57
  Ryan: Office.
• 1:13:58
  Jon: l- I kinda low-key love the next month.
• 1:14:01
  There's one movie I haven't seen coming up, and then
• 1:14:04
  Ryan: one?
• 1:14:04
  Kearns: You haven't seen?
• 1:14:07
  Jon: The Keeper.
• 1:14:07
  I haven't seen The Keeper yet.
• 1:14:09
  I put it on there, but I, 'cause it,
• 1:14:11
  Ryan: of
• 1:14:12
  Jon: curious about it, and I've heard... Yeah, neither have us.
• 1:14:15
  Kearns: Neither have us is right.
• 1:14:16
  All right, guys.
• 1:14:17
  Well, that's Xenomania episode m-m-m-m on the unicorn.
• 1:14:21
  Take, give it a watch.
• 1:14:22
  It's fun.
• 1:14:23
  Ryan: It's a good film.
• 1:14:24
  Jon: It's, it's a good ride.
• 1:14:25
  Yeah, it's a fun ride.
• 1:14:29
  See ya.