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• Jonathan: Yeah. Mortals to the Fantasy Football War Council's podcast. Here are your Gods of War, Jonathan Arson, along with Mario and Daniel Gutierrez. Welcome in, Mortals, to another meeting of the Fantasy Football War Council. I'm your God of War, Jonathan, and I'm joined by Gods of Mischief and Mayhem, the brothers Grim, Daniel Lamario. Me Mario: And boom. It was in ⁓ response. Good evening, sir. Jonathan: Gentlemen, good evening. Daniel: Good evening. Jonathan: ⁓ we have a fun podcast tonight. On tonight's War Council, we have some news that may or may not affect your fantasy teams. ⁓ we also have the wide receiver rankings. Because we spent so long on the quarterback we had to split them up. and yeah, we're gonna give it a the wide receivers their own show. We went all the way to twenty five. ⁓ before we start, remember to like the show, subscribe, share, podcast, wherever you may listen to it. It really helps us grow the show. Me Mario: Yeah. Sure, sure. Mm. Jonathan: Leave us a review and we may even read those on the show live. ⁓ also if you have any questions or need any help, ⁓ we are here for your needs. F F W C two three at gmail dot com or any of our social medias. Daniel, take us away. Daniel: Mm. All right. ⁓ first first part of the detention center here. ⁓ Denver Broncos linebacker Jonathan Cooper was arrested Thursday night by Parker Colorado police. As of Friday morning he was in custody in Douglas County jail. on multiple charges. He violated a protection order that he had that had been filed against him earlier in the week. Jonathan: ⁓ my god. Daniel: It is the second time in the last week Cooper has been arrested. In addition to multiple charges from his first arrest, including a felony charge, he now faces four new charges, two domestic violence charges, one harassment from repeated phone calls, and one violation of a protection order, according to records. Jeez. Sounds like he's starting a Christmas song and a partridge in a pear tree, dude. Jonathan: I know, right? Jake a hymn. And just full blown gone crazy, you know? Daniel: Full blown gone crazy. Me Mario: So d didn't he try to eat eat her phone too? Jonathan: I'm just here to follow off your phone. ⁓ yeah. He's the one that tried to eat her phone. Yeah, he's the yeah, that's that guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you had that too. Right. I know. Yeah, I wanna see that x-ray. I gotta see that x ray. Like trees. Daniel: ⁓ is he is he the one that tried to eat her phone? Me Mario: Yeah. But Jeez. I was I was like, excuse me, what? He it it says he ate her phone. I'm like please please let him let him at this point. Jonathan: Yeah. That's the next rate you want to see in the ER. Me Mario: Jeez, okay. Well, ⁓ here's for better news. Raiders signed third round pick defensive end Kieron Crawford to rookie contract. So they're gonna have a little help on the other side of Max Crosby there. Jonathan: Sadly the it just it just happened. I didn't have any details when I wrote it, so I didn't know ⁓ money's so Me Mario: Yeah. ⁓ a lot of ⁓ are getting signed, so we're it's it's looking good. Doesn't look like a lot of rookie holdouts. Jonathan: Yeah, yeah, yeah. ⁓ Daniel: Ty, Simpson and Mendoza are the only ones that aren't signed in the first round. The two quarterbacks. Me Mario: Yep. That's right. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. ⁓ Titans defensive tackle Jeffrey Simmons sig agrees to a three year extension worth up to one hundred and five point eight million dollars. Me Mario: Boy. Jonathan: Live me, Daniel: For you. Jonathan: I mean I'll take that. Daniel: Yeah, I'll take half that. Well that's what he's getting after taxes though, right? So yeah. Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. ⁓ yeah, ev no not everyone thinks they're not getting that full depends on the state you live in, how friendly they are with taxes and what they do, like they're not getting all that. They're lucky if they get half or a third, you know. Daniel: Mm-hmm. And then their people get their cut first too. Yeah. That agent and their yeah, everyone else. Alright. ⁓ Gino Jonathan: Their family, the family and friends. The circle gets there. You know. Mama mama gets a house, mama gets a car. Me Mario: Ha ha ha. Jonathan: Yeah, can't forget Baba. Daniel: Can't forget Mama. ⁓ Geno Smith could be in hot water already for was it a battery charge or an assault charge? Something like that. Apparently he he's the one that did it allegedly he did the hitting this time. Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: Alleged assault ⁓ yeah, it was alleged assault charge. Yeah. Yeah. I I I I think Mario, you saw the video as well about her chasing him into the garage and shouting the shit he did on the phone, but she looked crazy at that. But I at like at that point, you know, she's just wanting to Me Mario: ⁓ yeah. She it it was it was not a good look for her, but she was f she was filming in self defense, ⁓ so so it's to be seemed, so that if he did come at her, she was filming. ⁓ looks like he went and just scared her a little bit, so that he could get to the driveway without her continually harassing and barraging and Jonathan: New Mm-hmm. Me Mario: talking a lot of stuff to him and threw all her stuff out of his car in the driveway, so she just was going off. But ⁓ yeah. Bring the disabled son into it and saying that he beat her and we'll see. I mean, they gotta put an investigation on everything and always try to believe the victim first, but this was ⁓ a little tough just Seeing him look like he was fed up but for the most part calm. And ⁓ yeah. Didn't didn't look good on her side. Jonathan: No, it did it definitely didn't. But I hope the NFL issues ⁓ you know, an investigation into it and definitely, you know, warrants something from whatever they're looking into. So Daniel: Man. Me Mario: Yeah, always have to investigate it, make sure that I I really do want to root for good people in the NFL and ⁓ I wish they did a little better job at that and so I'm all for investigating. And Defensive In Cameron Yeah man, solid. How so Jonathan: Mm. ⁓ yeah. Speaking of good people. We get a good people. Me Mario: How more solid you can can you get? ⁓ wish he wasn't on the Saints, but it's good. It's good. ⁓ Defensive end Cameron Jordan resigns with the Saints for his 16th year and most likely his final season. 16 years. Jonathan: Yes. For a defensive end, that's that's pretty good. That's like Julius Peppers. He needs you know, if he did the one more and it was I think Julius has seventeen, so Yeah. That's good. Me Mario: That's awesome. Yeah. Dude he he still put up numbers last year, big numbers. Daniel: Oof. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah. No, he you know, he's a monster. I I and I love all the Cameron Jordan, Jordan Cameron, Ken Jordan. Daniel has stopped recording. We have lost Daniel. We have lost Daniel. Me Mario: Yeah. We all miss him. Jonathan: Yeah. I'll be back. Me Mario: And East Beck. Jonathan: It is right. Me Mario: Welcome back. Daniel: Thank you. Me Mario: All right. And to John. Jonathan: Keeps telling me you stopped. Yeah, it keeps telling me it's it's got the thing of it. It keeps telling me he stopped recording. ⁓ the NFL will not have a supplemental draft this year, meaning Brendan Soresby will have to wait until twenty twenty seven to get into the NFL. Wah wah wah. Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: Okay. Yeah. Fantastic. Daniel: All right, Me Mario: crushing the dreams of several teams. Which is a sad thing to say. Daniel: I I mean it it'd be it'd be interesting ⁓ t s to see what happens next year too, 'cause he's just gonna fall. He's gonna end up being a second third rounder no matter what now. All right. Let him fall. Yep. Jonathan: This is a double down? I gotta yeah. Me Mario: Yeah. Get rid of that one too. Jonathan: Which is crazy 'cause he's first round talent, so let him fall. Let him fall. Yeah, teams get a discount, so Me Mario: Yep. Daniel: Speaking of discount, Rasheed Rice released yeah, that's right, falling. He's got his punch card. Next next day's free. Rasheed Rice released from jail after a thirty day stint for car cash probation violation. And the videos are him tearing through a crosswalk with people walking in it still. So there's that. Jonathan: They get a fall, I mean. Me Mario: ⁓ man. Jonathan: As he left jail speeding away. That's a great look for ya. ⁓ on camera. Yeah. Hmm. Me Mario: Yeah. Can't can't fix stupid. Jonathan: No, you really can't. And the with social media nowadays and they know who you are, they see your license play. ⁓ you still get those tickets. We've been over this about ⁓ we did this in a newsboard about a a kid getting in trouble just by something he posted to social media. So Yeah. Don't be fucking stupid. Don't be stupid. Yeah, there you go. Don't be don't don't be fucking stupid, so Daniel: Right. Yeah, I don't you know Me Mario: Yeah. Ask Bran Ayuk about that. One dumb receiver to the other. Daniel: You know, some of these players you're like, you know, I really hope that they come to their senses and they clear all this stuff up and things like that, but I think like last year his mom was arrested for like doing porch pirate things. She was stealing packages and she had his jersey on while she's doing it. Jonathan: Yes, yes, I remember that. Me Mario: No. It it literally says Rashi Rice's mom on her shirt. And it's just like I mean, you know, there's your face, there's your name. I mean, yeah. You're I mean Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. Jonathan: Find your shirt. Yeah, change change your shirt. ⁓ This this goes back. No, this goes back to I remember this as a kid. You know, it's it's the stupid shit as a kid, you know? I I ran from the cops, I closed the door, I made it home. When I opened the door and played asleep, the cop opened the door and he goes, Go get your parents and I go, ⁓ I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, you answered the door in the same outfit I just saw you running away in, you idiot. Go get your parents. Daniel: So I don't have high hopes for him. Yeah, I d ⁓ he's he may not make it to the season, yeah. Jonathan: Don't be fucking stupid people. Jesus, don't be stupid people. Okay. ⁓ man, here. More good news. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Me Mario: Ha ha ha. Alright. So, offensive lineman Joe Tipman inks a four year extension for sixty six point four million dollars. Love to see those big guys get paid. Jonathan: I'd buy that for a dollar. Damn straight. I even put Chunky up today. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Okay. Daniel: Big man. Jonathan: Big man. We like the big man getting paid. ⁓ speaking of getting paid, Kyle Pitts agrees to a three year extension worth up to fifty four million dollars. Good for him. He had a good season last year. Finally, finally had a good season. Just took a little while. Now if we could just get his quarterback situation underhand, then it you know might be a little better, right? Me Mario: Yeah. I I think he's coming into his own finally health wise. Daniel: He's still so young. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Mm. Yeah. He's only twenty four years old. He's you know. Me Mario: Yeah. I know, he's he's younger than Kyler Shook. Daniel: Yeah. All right. ⁓ sad news. Former San Francisco 49er Alden Smith passed away at thirty-six years old. The number seven overall pick in two thousand eleven. The team did not disclose the cause of death. Our thoughts and prayers go to Smith family, go to the Smith family and friends. Me Mario: Ha ha Yeah. Jonathan: That's a that's a rough one. He was a good player. Damn good player for the Niners. So Me Mario: Yeah. Yeah. now ⁓ one that's still in question right now, AJ Brown. Already starting stuff over in New England. He left practice because he was complaining that he was being overthrown by Drake May. So Will Campbell stepped up and started taking his wide receiver reps for the rest of the practice. People say he looked surprisingly good out there and wasn't bitching. Jonathan: Yeah. Hey. Good for him. And when you look good, you get your starting reps. So keep walking keep walking out, AJ. That's why I want to move him down my rankings today. Phones are off the hook. ⁓ phones are ringing off the hook for Mac Jones and Shador Sanders. People are just calling left and right now. ⁓ Me Mario: Yeah, that's awesome. Jonathan: I mean, quarterbacks are needed, right? Me Mario: Dude, yeah. I don't know what they're I I don't know why. I'd like look if you're bad, there are good quarterbacks coming down the pipe next year. Don't sabotage yourself with somebody who's gonna get you to middle ground. If if possible. Jonathan: Yeah. But we see teams do it every year, though. We see it happen. It drives us crazy. Yep. Me Mario: And I I'm like, Wha why? Why? Daniel: I mean yes. But also the last few years a couple of teams have found their franchise quarterback that way too. So if you already got a more experienced guy, you don't go through the rookie curve, they've gotten their lumps everywhere else, you're gonna be better faster if you do sign that guy. But if he's good enough to get you mid then it's gonna suck. Me Mario: Yeah. Yeah. Jonathan: You call ⁓ franchise. I mean, that's a strong candidate to like franchise is like ⁓ a Josh Allen, a Lamar Jackson, you know, ⁓ a fill-in is a different thing. So are they franchises or they fill-ins, Daniel? That's what I want to know. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: What's Baker? Jonathan: Well see, I like Baker. But at this point, Baker is now at a at the point of where he's at a fill in. He's at he'll be through the last few years of his contract. We probably won't sign him again after this contract. Unless he really continues to produce. Me Mario: Yeah. I'd say f he's he's franchise worthy, I think. So w whether or not things are f for him for to to to stay in Tampa, I think he's franchise worthy. And I think there's only about eleven of those in the league right now. Where they're automatic I would say they're franchise worthy. Jonathan: Look, I I love Baker Mayfield, do not get me wrong. I don't know. When I think franchise, I do think it's that big it's that giant star studded that you know, it's the Patrick Mahomes. It's ⁓ there's a different face to that franchise. Hey they it was the Cam Newton when it was i it the Panthers. They they didn't have to be winning. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But ⁓ they were the highly paid. Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: Yeah, so so you Jonathan: Big contracts, the giant people, you know? Me Mario: So you think franchise has to mean possible Hall of Fame? Daniel: Tier. Jonathan: I mean, when you throw the term franchise out, I mean that's like that's a big term. Me Mario: See, I I think it's a step below Hall of Fame where it's like they did their job real really well for seven years. Daniel: Mm. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah, I'm not Yeah. Daniel: they steady the franchise at a position is what I was thinking. That's interesting. So there would only be like five franchise guys then. Me Mario: According to John. Daniel: Mm. Yeah. Jonathan: Who listens to me though? I'm crazy as shit. So ⁓ we all have different opinions, right? This is what we view things as, right? But hey, I'm the quarterback guy, so I don't know what you're talking about. So no, ⁓ look, I love Baker. I think he's a great guy. ⁓ do w do I build a team around him? Absolutely. But he's a cheaper quarterback to build that team around. ⁓ and I usually don't throw that term around for Me Mario: It's Jonathan: Not saying he's lower bottom of the barrel, 'cause I'd actually don't consider him lower bottom of the barrel. But I Baker out of my top ten this this year. Yeah. So yeah. I just saying I I don't know. I tend to the franchise term is that top is that top is that top face is the top five guy. It's the big the big one that always stands out. That I just that's just me. That's just me. So I don't know. Yeah, it's an interesting way to look at it. You're when you throw those terms around, right? You have rankings in your head and Daniel: Yeah, I think we both did. Yeah. I I just think that there's Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Interesting. Jonathan: To me, franchise is a b it's a it's a big term to g it's a heavy weight to to have on your shoulders. And it should be easily thrown around, you know? Daniel: Mm. Those are the yeah. Those are like league guys for me. Like they are the face of the f they the NFL league. But that doesn't mean that the the the Yeah. Mm. Right. And the and the but the the quarterbacks now are like teams aren't moving away, they're building around them. That's that franchise's guy for now. Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. A few years ago on Madden, they were the guy that had the star under You know? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I only make this joke because look, ⁓ complete comparison right here is Sam Darnold. Perfect comparison to Sam Darnold, Brad Johnson wasn't a giant blowout booming of a quarterback, but he did what he needed to. He filled a role and he won a Super Bowl. You know what I mean? Daniel: Mm-hmm. Me Mario: ⁓ I I think Sam Darnold is way more talented with with fit physically. Physically. I th I think his his problem's always been mental. Daniel: Ouch. Jonathan: I do not ranked. Daniel: I would take Sam Darnold over. Jonathan: It was ⁓ okay. Okay. Maybe it was a bad name to throw out Matt Johnson, but it's the idea that he it's a quarterback that has won a Super Bowl, but you go I ⁓ you know, it wasn't I don't know. Again, we're into rankings and thoughts of of level of of of talent here and I do think it was the defense that carried a lot of that team and some other people. ⁓ and yeah, I mean Daniel: That yeah. That defe yeah. That well Jonathan: He's gotta make the throw, but I don't see him as a top quarterback in my opinion. It's just me, so Daniel: Hmm. Interesting. ⁓ yeah, he's not a top ten, but I think that he's somebody that they're married to now. Because I mean he did he did he did do I mean that offense was still extremely impressive last year. And you could make the argument you happily. It's not a yeah. Yeah, but nobody's happy about that though, right? Jonathan: No. ⁓ yeah. Just 'cause you're stuck with a team doesn't mean you're a franchise. 'Cause I'll tell you right now, Deshaun Watson is stuck with a team and he's not face of a fucking franchise, so Me Mario: ⁓ my god Jonathan: No, God no. And money does not mean you are the face of a franchise. So I I'm not I'm not equating money to this is so Me Mario: Hey, I I would just like to say that there there is there is no bigger franchise guy out there than Deshaun Watson. He has been the reason for that franchise and how it's been Daniel: I Yeah, I agree completely. Jonathan: Well he ruins a franchise better than better than no man out there. So Yeah. Haven't seen anybody ruin a team better than him ever, so ever. He's gonna take number one of the bust list away from ⁓ Jamarcus, so you watch out. You watch out. Daniel: In the yeah, yeah. You could see that. Alright, last bit of news, which we all kinda like this one. There has been a rule change in the MOU for the referees. You, the referees that are performing at subpar levels can get benched. They can get cut. Call ⁓ up. Me Mario: Yes. Jonathan: I mean, you make a bad call. It's just because you wear the shirt doesn't mean it's good call, so I wanna see someone out there that knows what the hell they're doing. But you know, what do you do? All right. ⁓ wide receiver rankings. This is super exciting and I have a feeling names are gonna already be changing and they were already changing at the start of this document, so Me Mario: It's about time. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Ha ha. Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: As we started the episode. So yeah. ⁓ holy moly. Number one. Mario, I want you to take us away because you have the most shocking number one on your list. Me Mario: Is it though Is it though? Because ⁓ I if if you follow if you follow Matt Harmon and Reception Perception, this was Lad McConkey's call out to have the JSN year this year. And ⁓ he was doing pretty well on that and ⁓ you know I've believed in Herbert for a long time and w he it's it's one of those things like Jonathan: Okay is a hell of a drug. Hope for it. ⁓ yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. ⁓ Yeah, here. Me Mario: He's got all the talent, and there's just been a lot failing him all around. And now you have Mike McDaniels who he creates space. And then you have Harbaugh who believes in him. And you just have all this coming together. It could be a magical season. If it does, ⁓ Lad McConkey is pretty darn near uncoverable. and so Jonathan: It just something happens. Yes, something. Mm-hmm. Me Mario: If they're just smart enough to recognize what that is, and I trust Mike McDaniel, then he could have pro possibly the best season of his career this year as it comes in. And the rest of the league doesn't have much film on him and all this other stuff for this new scheme. So I've I've I've I went, you know, that's you got a lot of good a arguments, including the fact that he's on my dynasty team, so I'll put I'll put him up there. ⁓ Daniel: That's right. I would just like to preface that our rankings are all over the place. ⁓ and it's kind of fun to look at all of these lists because some of us have players that others don't and so high and around and all of that. So since since John you have one that's typical that's not quite typical, how about you ⁓ go ahead and and and go over your set your Jonathan: ⁓ and as they change. Yeah. Yes. Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah. Okay. So I will I will preface with the fact that I truly believe Amon Ra will have a number one year because I traded him to my wife. Daniel: Ha ha. Me Mario: Ha ha ha. Jonathan: There it is. I said it. It's gonna fucking happen because I gave him away this year. And that's usually what happens when I get rid of a player is they fucking boom. So guys, everyone, go out and trade for him because he's gonna boom this year. Why? Because I gave him to my wife. So yeah, that's it. That's really it. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Me Mario: I I was I was high on Jameson Williams and Isaac Tesla, but ⁓ now na now that you brought that evidence to the ⁓ to the room I'm I I I think I'm with you. I'm gonna have to move him up. Jonathan: ⁓ absolutely. No, I ⁓ yeah. I'm with you. I have to move him up. Yeah, no, absolutely absolutely. I mean it it's it's Starkineck. It's it's works because I mean she always has a strong damn team. And that's a scary player right there. He's got Jared Goff. Jared Goff is a really good talent. ⁓ I think the s it's the second season of the new coordinator there. They're gonna ⁓ shake things up. They're gonna do a little better this year than they did last year. And I just see I'm on rather. And I've got Jamison Williams in my top fifteen. Daniel: Hm. Jonathan: So I I think that offense is just gonna fire on all cylinders. I had ⁓ Jameer at number two, so ⁓ the team's gonna do well. Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. ⁓ I went with the token number one, Jamar Chase. ⁓ it's it's a borough year every other year, right? It is now every other year. He's gonna be insane this year because he's gonna have borough healthy all season. And then next year he won't. It it's but it's a borough year, right? Every other year. Yeah. Now Me Mario: Yeah. Safe pick. Jonathan: Right. Yeah. Yeah, it's called Me Mario: Yes. Jonathan: Damn, it is a burrow year. You're right. It is a burrow year. Yeah, he's always the one other I can see it dropping Puka here. Who's constantly dropping Puka the last two minutes? Daniel: I ⁓ yeah, I mean I dropped him to ⁓ just where you put him right now too. I just don't trust him as much. Yeah. Yeah. I was see I was seeing you make your amendments there. Alright. Jonathan: ⁓ look, he's sitting next to you. God, it's so funny how that happens. And I'm like, ⁓ look, not even looking at your list. And he just saw some I went to two to four. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Moving things around. I I like your number two pick though. ⁓ Daniel: I I did go again with ⁓ Justin Jefferson here. I two things. First off, if Kyler does win the job, he locks he locks onto targets. And Mario it's catching all the background noise. Me Mario: It's it's time for me. You have both? Aww. ⁓ Jonathan: Everything. Yeah. Me Mario: Yeah, sorry. Daniel: So ⁓ so if Kyler does win the job, then he's gonna lock onto his target and it's gonna be high volume for Justin Jefferson. If JJ McCarthy does win the job, that means that he's playing better than Kyler Murray who locks onto a target, which means that he's improved. So I'm putting him in that position because of his high ceiling and he had one bad season with horrible quarterback play. But I'm still gonna trust the talent and the situation and put Justin Jefferson at two. Jonathan: I like it. I mean, I think I have Kyler winning out the starting job over J J, the way that it's going and see if he ⁓ n no, not I haven't no, what's today? Yeah, no, I haven't heard last year, so Me Mario: Done. Daniel: ⁓ have you heard recently? By the end by the end of OTAs, JJ was ahead of Murray. They're saying that JJ McCarthy has improved massively and he is ahead of Murray in at the end of OTAs. Jonathan: No Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Yeah, this is all my last the last few episodes I've just been talking shit on him. It's it's turn it around. Yeah, turn it around. Daniel: Well he's you know, light that fire underneath the kid that's been given everything and see what he does, yeah. Jonathan: Wow. Putting somebody like Kyler in front of you and saying, Hey, he can play in front of you and you go, No, I don't want that kid playing in front of me. I'm gonna snap up. Yeah, good for real. Me Mario: Please. Yeah, they they said ⁓ Daniel: I can't even see him when I'm walking behind him. What are you talking about? Me Mario: I said Kyler showed up like he already had the job and JJ has been hungry the whole time. So Yeah, so we'll we'll see. I mean it's that's the best thing for the franchise. I mean the absolute best thing would be that ⁓ he continues to develop. They fight, Kyler starts, and JJ's able to take it from him. But ⁓ yeah we'll see how it goes. Jonathan: ⁓ okay. Well let's see it. would be nice to see in Minnesota. Yeah. That'd be something. Okay, well let's see. ⁓ Mario, your number two was my old number two. What makes you keep them? Me Mario: Yeah, Puka Puka Nakua because the band's back together. And ⁓ what ⁓ a good book you gave. I just everything he's done is repeatable with how he's done it. The only thing that scares me about Puka Nik well no, the sec the football related thing that it scares me about Puka Nakua is Their defense could be stronger, a lot stronger this year. So they won't need to take those chances. And so then they could tilt the rock more, which would put Kyron Williams and ⁓ what's his name? ⁓ Corp Yeah, Quorum. And they could their numbers could go up instead based on just game script. But I don't know. Jonathan: Mm. Daniel: Corn. Lake Corn. Me Mario: ⁓ McVeigh's kinda sick and I think he'll run it up, so yeah. I I still got p Niku up here. Jonathan: I management. Daniel: If they could put up fifty a week they would. Jonathan: No, I think I think yeah, I I think they would if they could. I I think they'll be one of the higher scoring teams of the league too this year, probably top three, top five. ⁓ I move Puka down to four only for that reason of what you just said is the defense is gonna be better, the running backs are gonna take over a little more, they're not gonna need to bomb it downfield as much. So Me Mario: Yeah. Yeah, I just can't walk down. The stairs is where I hooked myself. Going up back to the top of upper level. Well really? Yeah. Because I noticed this because we're going like this when I step up and I'm going like this up I don't know, white pulls. Daniel: right. Number two for John. Jonathan: ⁓ I I had Lad McConkey and he was sitting at four and I moved him up. ⁓ I I I really like what what's going on there and I do believe he is gonna be a a good receiver to have this year. And that's ⁓ I like Mario said, I have had major hype for ⁓ Justin Herbert this entire time and every season it's something, whether it's receiver doesn't Me Mario: So then you're not wanting to also call. Well what I can do with regular corn reaches out down there so that I don't have to call it walk up the hill. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: shine like you should have out of college. offensive lineman goes down and you have no protection and you're constantly scrambling. Whatever the bad offensive coordinator and slash coach. So you know lots of excuses, but really I see a talented kid. So it's time to shine. Yeah. If if I see if I see failure after this year Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Yeah. There's no reason, especially in this offense, there's no reason. Jonathan: You don't have my support anymore. It's time to start looking elsewhere, you know what I mean? So Yeah. Me Mario: Yep. Yeah, it's a make or break year for Herbert for me right now. I mean, he's got all the talent, but sometimes it just doesn't click with some people and that's all right. That's all right. Jonathan: Absolutely. Mm-hmm. Yep. Yep. Okay. ⁓ you two hold the same number three. Look at you. Me Mario: J S N Daniel: A boy. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah. Yeah, it's your boy. You definitely have him. Yeah. ⁓ Yeah. Daniel: Yeah my guy. Me Mario: Yeah. Chang changing coordinator scares me a lot. But but it you you can't put that genie back in the bottle after what he did, and you'd have to be an idiot not to use him some of the ways he was used last year. So that's that's why I put him out there. Jonathan: That's why I haven't added five. Well he's not far under you. Daniel: Okay. He still he still would have scored top three in wide receivers if you take twenty percent of his production away. So it's like, okay, take twenty percent of his production. One fifth. Take take twenty percent because of the fact that they've got a new coordinator, but that coordinator's still a McVaitree guy, right? So it's like he's not number one, but he could be, so I'm gonna put him at three. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Me Mario: Yep. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Jonathan: Or Me Mario: Yeah. Yep. Jonathan: Mm. Me Mario: And the the the other reason why I put him up high is because ⁓ their preferred guy is Charbonnet. And Charbonnet may miss around six weeks or so. And I know they got the rookie in there, but the rookie is gonna have some issues and you know, they just they they might lean on that Jonathan: Mm. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: Mm. It's got stumble. Daniel: ⁓ Passing game. Mm-hmm. Me Mario: on the air game, yeah, just just air rate it for a while first. And so I I was like, I just can't I just can't drop lower than this right now, knowing with what he did last year and what the team's coming up with. So yeah. I got him up year three. Yeah. That's fair? Daniel: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: put him out of the top five, but I did move him to five ⁓ because of the coordinator change. Yeah, you know, coordinator changes scare me because you never know what may come from it. So, you know. Yeah. ⁓ n my number let's see. My number three, Jamar Chase. ⁓ it's your number one. It's your number one. Yeah. I think I Burrow, it's a Burrow year. You ⁓ he's Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: Yeah. Yeah. All right. Daniel: Yeah. That is my number one. It's a borough year. Jonathan: He's gonna get force fed and it's gonna be Bur it's gonna be ⁓ Chase, Higgins, and Brown. They're all gonna have a good year, I think. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Nope th I think so. I agree. Alright, you wanna keep going to your number four or which yours and mine are the same? Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. ⁓ sure. ⁓ we both are Puka Nakua. And you are ⁓ and look at you, and you're my and you're Jamar J, so yeah. It it you know a lot of the similar names here. Me Mario: Well, I Yeah, so I say Yeah. I I have the re Yeah, I just have the receivers scoring more this year than they did last year. ⁓ because last year was a relatively low wide receiver scoring game, so I see regression coming back this time and with my numbers, Jamar Chase lands about here the really, really solid season. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: Very solid. ⁓ all right, moving on. So I've already said my number five was JSN, matching you guys number three. ⁓ you both have the same number five. Doing pretty well in your parents. Yeah. Me Mario: Yeah. I'm on Ross St. Brown. The sun god at five. Consistent as ever, but I see him getting hurt by Tesla and Williams. 'Cause Yeah and ki Dan Campbell's come out several times saying that those are the guys he's trying to feed more. Daniel: Yeah. Nice. Jonathan: Mm, mm. Tesla did really well. Yeah, and Williams. Mm. He's finally Has gotta say he's spreading it around, so you know when they bomb it all the number one over here. Daniel: I was gonna say ⁓ until they get in the season and it's just like, well, we're just throwing to the guy that's open. I'm on Ros A. Brown. Yeah, for sure. Jonathan: Yeah. Me Mario: Yeah, right. Well the the offensive coordinator has said that Jared Goff is the most accurate guy he's ever seen. And he's he's he's been loving airing it out in the OTAs and in his planning and scheming, so we we could see a little bit different for the Lions. Less lip less run game r Jonathan: Pretty good. Me Mario: reliant but yeah we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. Jonathan: Mm lo the loss of knuckles may do that, so yeah, yeah. Okay. ⁓ number six, ⁓ another pairing. Daniel, you and me, CD Lamb. Me Mario: Yeah. Come on. Daniel: Mm. Healthy season. Just you know, just gonna have a healthy season. He wasn't healthy last year. Jonathan: You know you gotta put ⁓ somewhere. Yeah, you gotta have ⁓ in the top ten. I just I don't like deck. I don't like deck. I'd probably have ⁓ higher. I I you know? I've got a lot of reasons, but I'm not sure. You know? ⁓ Me Mario: I don't know why you don't like Dak. All all this quarterback hate all this quarterback hate. Do you like football? Jonathan: Hey, hey. ⁓ I love football. I love football. You just talked about a quarterback I love. Jared Koff is amazing. So no, I'm just I'm not a I'm not a Dak fan. I I I think if he had a better quarterback, CeeDee Lamb would be sitting higher on my list, possibly. He's a very talented wide receiver, so Me Mario: Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Bet better than consistently top five quarterback in the league. Daniel: I was gonna say the those disrespect. ⁓ yeah, yeah. He is a bad rep. Jonathan: Wow. Look at that. Me Mario: Those are those are just numbers. ⁓ Jonathan: I have such disrespect yet you have been the same spot as me. How is it disrespect at six? Daniel: ⁓ no, I'm talking about Dak Dak disrespect. Yeah. Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: ⁓ well he's constantly injured. He's constantly injured. There's always something. It's never a healthy season. It's ⁓ come on, if Me Mario: All right. Well I I have Justin Jefferson here at six. Daniel: Hm it's it is a yeah nice. Jonathan: A solid pick. Very solid. Justin Jeffers he deserves to be in the top ten and top five, but even better quarterback might put him there, so Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: I Daniel: I like this next line. We're all highest on these players and it's a different player every one of us. Me Mario: His Jonathan: Yeah. ⁓ God, I am the highest. ⁓ wow. By a lot too. I should have tinkered that down because I'm not a fan of quarterback play there. And I think I do need to take that down. So I'm gonna take that down. I'm gonna say Tet McMillan should be at my number seven spot. Me Mario: Yeah. Yeah. Daniel: Now, I I would have to say, before you move Waddle down number seven, I have Waddle at thirteen because I think it's a lower floor. However, let me let me just let let me just bring in ⁓ Michael Thomas. Okay. Michael Thomas and Jalen Waddle are actually pretty close in size. Jalen Waddle's a little bit smaller than he is. Me Mario: Okay, okay. Jonathan: Yeah. He has a high ceiling, but I kinda have him where the ceiling is. Me Mario: His ceiling's huge. Jonathan: Right. Michael Thomas gets hurt a lot though. Daniel: Michael Thomas got hurt a lot at the end of his career. Now, but and then he didn't get better. Now, Jalen Waddle and Michael Thomas do all of the same things extremely well, with the exception of Jalen Waddell has the speed that Michael Thomas never had. Me Mario: No, he yeah, he only got her at the end and then he didn't get better. Jonathan: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Daniel: So could you imagine Michael Thomas in that offense if he was a four three guy and did all of the same things that he did? That's the possibility of what Waddle could be in that offense. Jonathan: It's kinda ⁓ no, absolutely. No. I I I have a high floor or a high ceiling for Waddle. ⁓ Me Mario: The yak. The yak. Daniel: It's sick. Yeah. I so I don't disagree with him at seven. I just have him a lot low I have him at thirteen for me personally, but I can understand why he's at seven for sure. So I just wanted to give the devil's advocate side since you are the highest on him, but I don't begrudge you at all for having him there because if you're counting on the ceiling, yeah. Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: say I was only gonna move him down like one or two spots ⁓ 'cause I believe he needs to be in the top ten, but ⁓ it's because of his ceiling I want to keep him there. But yeah, I I I I I wanna move him down just a hair because again quarterback play. And I'm shitting on the quarterbacks today apparently. ⁓ 'cause you know, when it comes to a certain quarterback, I'm gonna I trust a quarterback. And if you don't trust the quarterback, I don't trust the receivers as much. So Daniel: Hmm. Yeah, yes you are. Me Mario: Ha ha ha. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Me Mario: To to be fair, Bonicks got hurt at the very end of the season. We really we really don't know what he's gonna look like. And yeah. Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: Mm, yeah. But I don't know what he's gonna look like coming into the start. I don't even know if he's gonna start the fucking season. So yeah, absolutely. And he came out today, or he came out yesterday or so. There was an article and he was like, if I could start today, I would play. And it's like great, you would play, but are you a hundred percent? How do you feel? Like there's a lot of questions in it. I'm glad you'll go out there and play. Stop throwing your body out there if you don't need to. You know what I mean? You're worth millions. You're worth millions. Daniel: The the Yeah. Yeah. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. But could you plant? Me Mario: And and not not only that, but there's there's some real chafing between him and Sean Payton, I think. So Yeah Jonathan: Mm. ⁓ No, I I ⁓ Wa Waddle has the he has the ceiling to be number one possi quite possibly. Absolutely. ⁓ Daniel: Mm, mm. ⁓ Me Mario: He he he absolutely does. He does. And I was telling Daniel this a couple weeks ago. I was just like, I dude, I have no idea. I don't have Waddle high enough. But I there are all kinds of factors I don't know. So I'm gonna let him slide, but he really could be t top top five. Yeah. Jonathan: That's my factor. So if Bo comes out and Bo is healthy and it's the same Bo before the injury, I'm kind of even if he's just a little bit regressive because of the injury, I'm okay with that. ⁓ because you'll get better. But I need to know where he sits, and I don't know where he sits. So yeah. No, I I I think I'll put Dak McMillan just one spot ahead of Jalen McMillan. Daniel: ⁓ he he could be Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: I agree. Me Mario: Yeah. It's Okay. Daniel: Yeah, I mean Waddle could be a hundred and thirty reception guy with two thousand yards by the end of the year. That could be absolutely ridiculous, but or you know, he could be a back end w wide receiver one, low end wide receiver two. Mm-hmm. Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: It low end wide receiver two. That's what I yeah. I I could see him being down there at the wide receiver two position 'cause he just didn't get enough love or it went elsewhere. Javante Williams got a lot of love 'cause they're saying he's gonna get a lot this year. So I I don't know. It's I mean yeah. Broncos kinda scared me a little. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Mine Yeah. ⁓ my number seven's Drake London. I know we're a little scared of the quarterback situation over there, but no matter what the quarterback situation was in ⁓ Miami, those those receivers still put up points. So Me Mario: Yep. Jonathan: I laugh because before I tinkered, I think Drake London sat at seven right next to you. I was paired with you at seven. Yeah. I moved him down. I had to. I just quarterback play. I'm shitting on it today. Man, I don't trust it. Man, I don't trust it. Well, I mean what? Penix Penix may not start the season. So I I I I really I I don't like what they have. Let's get into it. Daniel: ⁓ yeah. Yeah, it was. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. Me Mario: No, I I think I think two is gonna take ⁓ all season. And I think two two is gonna look fantastic this season. Dinking and dunking because I think the the reason why I dropped London was because I think he's gonna have some great boom games, but he's gonna be Zach Branch and Pitts. Jonathan: Tua is Garbo. No, don't even say that. ⁓ my god, he's gonna dink and dunk to tile tile pits. Holy sha Me Mario: And it's gonna be all kinds of str stup ⁓ yes, and B and B. John Robinson. I think he's gonna be distributing close. He's gonna be nailing these and every once in a while you're gonna get a really nice shot to London. But I think Zach I Daniel: And Robinson. Jonathan: My goodness, I totally see that. And Bijan. Mm, mm. ⁓ Holy crap. Two is gonna be quarterback seven. Shit, you just man, you blow. Me Mario: I think Zac Zach Branch is going to be it's it's it's just such it's such a friendly scheme the way they've s they've had so many top eight picks that you it it it's gonna be a quarterback paradise. So with Daniel: Ha ha ha. Jonathan: You can only yeah, you can only draft down there for so long before you're good, right? Yeah. Me Mario: Zap Zachariah Branch has been lighting up OTAs and he may be the best wide receiver contributor this year from this draft. so yeah, that's that's Daniel: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Mm. Daniel: I Jonathan: Wow. That's that's a bad fact. That is a bold take. That is a bold take. Let's see how that pays out. Me Mario: It it is. I I think I think Tate's gonna do really well too, but n I think Branch is gonna be you're gonna hear his name more. So in PPR, full PPR, I think Branch is gonna be the top guy. ⁓ from everything I'm reading. Daniel: Yeah. I was just looking at like coaches history too, right? Stefansky has an awesome running back, an awesome tight end, and one whenever he has a healthy wide receiver, that wide receiver is awesome too. There are three producers in that offense. It isn't necessarily the quarterback and the best wide receiver and the best tight end he's ever had. So I'm like Jonathan: Interesting. Okay. All right. And Mm. Mm. And this may be the best running back that he's got, you know. Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: Says a lot. Says a lot. Man, Stevancy's gonna be like coach of the fucking year this year. Jesus. Hmm. No, he's gonna be QB seven. Fuck. What am I saying? I'm not gonna shit on Tua as much as I want to shit on Tua. Like, holy crap. I can't shit on that. Dean Dunk. That's a winning fucking yeah. You dink and dunk, and that's that's a winning strategy. Daniel: Says a lot. Yeah. But Tua's numbers might not be bad, but Tua's numbers might be shit. ⁓ So it's it's an it's offensive skill set that matches him. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Me Mario: Huh. He re But look, look. There's there Yeah. Jonathan: You can that's hard to stop. Me Mario: He he gets it out fast. He gets it out fast. And there's a big difference between fantasy and real life. Jonathan: Well he has to 'cause he's gonna run into a fucking wall and get himself CTE, so he's gotta give it up fast. Quick ha before I run into somebody. Fuck. Okay. Let's finish off the number sevens. Mario, you're number seven. Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: So my so Devontae Smith. Devante Smith is he is such a badass receiver. He's just so badass. And I I do. He's ⁓ if he's he's one of those guys Daniel: Or the yeah. Mario. Jonathan: Mmm You are the highest on him for sure. And I spent most of this episode moving his name down in my list. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: I mean if you think so. But Don't tell me I wanna shit on Jill and hurts too, dude. It's okay. Daniel: No. Me Mario: If i if he if he were just a little bigger, ⁓ we wouldn't have all this drama stuff with A. J. Brown. Jonathan: ⁓ my god, he's full of drama. Full of drama. What are you talking about? Me Mario: So yeah, without that I think Devontae Smith's gonna kill it this year. Jonathan: Smith is drama too. Smith is drama too. I don't know about that. Yeah, I do. I have not liked Smith since day one. It's just something about him. And ⁓ yes, that is my take. And it's it's ⁓ maybe it's his quarterback. ⁓ yeah, I'm not a Jalen Hurts fan. ⁓ I don't I d I just mmm. See, this is okay. When we got into Dynasty, I want to say it was Jaden Daniels, and then Jalen Hurts was the next name available, and I just stared at those two names and I'm like Me Mario: Think so? Maybe it's his quarterback. ⁓ Jonathan: ⁓ God, that's how I took Jane Daniels. I'm like it was such an ugly pick to me to take, but I you know, it's funny, why do I think such an ugly pick of a quarterback that runs and throws? I loved Cam Newton and I hate all these running quarterbacks now. I'm like pocket passer, pocket passer, stay in the pocket, damn it. Don't run. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Strategy changes. It's it's certainly dang it's certainly paid. It's certainly paid. But it's funny because ⁓ you traded for a player in Justin Herbert that is not a pocket passer either, you know. Alright, let's see. Me Mario: That's okay. A lot of people like the the warm blanket of mediocrity. Jonathan: Yeah, my strategy has definitely changed. Hey. Whatever, dude. Whatever. Hold on. Hold on. Me Mario: Yeah. Ha ha ha. Jonathan: Warm blanket of mediocrity my. Daniel: Nice. Jonathan: Who's got more championship rings, motherfucker? Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. It's true. Thanks to the mobile quarterback. And Cam Newton. Me Mario: ⁓ thanks to Cam Newton. Jonathan: Yeah, two of ⁓ were him. No. I'm gonna say thanks to Luke Keegley. Thanks to Luke fucking Keegley. Defense wins championships. Yeah. Defense wins championships. ⁓ man. Me Mario: Okay. That's why we're IDP. Yes, sir. Daniel: ⁓ I'm sorry. So you have to so as a Buccaneers fan, you have to thank the Carolina Panthers for your fantasy football championships. Cause it was Cam Newton. Jonathan: I have three Carolina Panther jerseys in my closet. Cam Newton, Christian McCaffrey, and Luke Bucky and Luke McCaffrey dude, Keekly and they they sit there in my closet because they won me championships. If you're on my team, I will buy your jersey. Listen to that people. Do well for me and I will buy your fucking jerseys. No, I'm not sure. There it is. Me Mario: Yes. Daniel: Yeah. Ha ha ha. Me Mario: And it's and it's the perfect month for them to come out of the closet. Daniel: Yeah. Hey, that's right. It's June. All right. Me Mario: All right. On to number eight. Jonathan: Shaming on shaming on my jerseys. How dare you? How dare you? Daniel: Okay. Me Mario: Okay, so we've heard John's Jalen Waddle. Jonathan: Yeah, we all know what I think. I mean I I think I I I just don't trust the quarterback. Yeah, I just don't trust the quarterback. Come on. Me Mario: Yeah, and we and we all agree. Yeah. But that the all the possibilities there. Jonathan: So many possibilities, but how do you have lad I gotta ask, how do you have Lad McConkie this fucking low, Daniel? How Daniel: That's me. Alright. High ceiling, low floor. I split I and and I and so no, I I I split the difference. Cause what was his floor last year? His floor last year wasn't he was a wide receiver three. Four. Jonathan: ⁓ and you're placing them in the floor? Question mark, question mark? Yeah. Well, I'm I'm not gonna take that because you for the fact that his quarterback was running for his life, he had no good or two two of his linemen were down with Slater and ⁓ Joe Alt. And then you have ⁓ no Hampton to open up the run game. You have nothing. Yeah got nothing and you ain't running. Forrest ain't running anywhere, motherfucker. So very shocking and surprising. But I'm okay with that. Me Mario: In the thirties. Yeah. Daniel: But QJ was very successful. So that s so there go so that's the thing, yeah, because he's on your your dynasty team, but so Jonathan: Well, he's on my dynasty team. But yeah, it's the fact that I mean, like, it's it's it's about Justin Herbert and you need you need him to have the good receivers because right now he doesn't really have a great receiver other than Lad McConkey. And you need to get him somebody else. Like ⁓ Stefan Diggs or I need somebody. Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: Mm. Daniel: Eight is I mean, like it's the he's still got top ten. He's still top ten, right? But his his floor was wide receiver four last year. He could be wide receiver one, like Mario has it marked in there. So I I'd put him towards the higher end. I didn't just split the difference, right? Eight Jonathan: Mm, yeah, mm, mm. see that I see that I was right in number two. I I guess my original spot at four should have stayed there because then it would have been one four eight and I would have been middle, you he'd be the high and you're the low point. So yeah, I guess I'm gonna I I guess we should have snapshotted our original ⁓ rankings and seen how much we tinkered with them and what we did to them. Yeah. Names you take off, names you move down, names you're like, ⁓ I don't want to move you down, but I'm gonna move you down. ⁓ Me Mario: Yeah. Ha ha ha. Daniel: Yeah. That's okay. I'll I'll be low on him. That's fine. Yeah. Yeah. Where they went across the last week and a half. Yeah. Yeah. Names you delete. Yeah. Mario. Me Mario: ⁓ yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. All right. Number nine. Wait, number eight, number eight. Chris ⁓ Mario's Chris Olave. Chris Olave. You know, you are the highest on Chris Olave, right? Yes, you are. And not by much, not by much. And especially for all of us. Yeah. All of us, yeah. Nicely rounded here. Okay. Daniel: Yeah. Barely. Me Mario: Very much so. Daniel: All of us. Yeah. Me Mario: But this this one makes me the most nervous of all my rankings because he's still showing signs of the blood clot and he may have to retire. ⁓ I should I shouldn't laugh. I shouldn't laugh, but Jonathan: Come on, talk talk about it. Talk about it. I was waiting for you to say that it's quite possibly a little bit of the quarterback play, but that's just 'cause of me shitting on quarterback play today. Daniel: No. Nah. No. You know, he had the best games of his career when Charler Shuck was throwing him the ball. Jonathan: I had do you think Shug's gonna play? You think Shug's gonna start? You think he's gonna win out? You think I mean I think so. They've already okay. Daniel: ⁓ yeah. They've already he's Me Mario: Against two. Daniel: Yeah, they've already said that he's the he's their quarterback. Yeah. Me Mario: Yeah, Shu Shuck's their guy. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's undisputed. It th the big the big thing is ⁓ Olave's ⁓ blood clot. Jonathan: Okay. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Daniel: But carton is wrong. Jonathan: Well, they went out they also went out and got the other receiv the rookie receiver. So, I mean they still got something to Me Mario: Yeah, but Daniel: It 'cause they don't know if they're gonna have a lava 'cause the blood clot in his lung. So Me Mario: Yes. He he could be forced into retirement. And the the other receiver that they drafted has injury concerns throughout college. So yeah. Jonathan: But just think of if they have both of them out there. Daniel: I know. Jonathan: So you're saying the Saints are definitely not a franchise that we need to be worrying about for the next, I don't know, three to five years? Daniel: ⁓ it just depends on health. Me Mario: It's it's really possible it could go either way. If if things are happening, I just wanted I said Olave's either off my list or he's here. So I put him here. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Jonathan: Well that yeah, I mean, dude, if he's having health issues with a blood clot, you either s just wipe him off your list or you draft him because you know he's talented and he can do it. You know what I mean? And you're willing to deal with a he could spend time on your IR slash straight up just fucking leave your team 'cause you retired. So that's a big and that's a big one right there. So Me Mario: Yeah. Yep. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Me Mario: Yeah, so so I was like per per his numbers he was incredible last year and ⁓ this is I just this is low for where he should be, but I w I didn't want to put him any higher because, you know, there's flashes in the pan when nobody's seen film. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah. Daniel: He's the highest on him and he says this is low. Alright. Jonathan: Fair enough. No, no, no. He's not wrong. Honestly, I wanted to put I wanted to put Chris Olave a lot higher. And it is because of the the the blood clot that you put him down a little bit. You it you don't know it's the question mark. It's the same thing with Jalen Waddle. There's a question mark because of something else going on. Look, I like Tyler Sug. I think Sug did great in the last few games of the year last year, and now you went out and got him another receiver as long as that one can stay healthy. You've got two town. Me Mario: It is. Yeah. Yeah. Jonathan: on the side to throw to, this team's gonna look a lot better. Me Mario: Unfortunately, yeah. Jonathan: Unfortunately, but hey, I've always believed that the NFC South has always been one of the better divisions to be in. ⁓ because we're the Buccaneers, but not only because we're the Buccaneers, but hey, Panthers were always a good div ⁓ team ever since they come in as the expansion team. Falcons have played very well, and always, man, the dirty birds give it to us. And the fucking Saints, man. The Saints have always had our number. Always. But I think that was a Sean Payton thing. So but the Saints always had our Come on. ⁓ yeah, absolutely. I think it's over for a few years. Yes. Knock on wood. Knock on wood. Okay. Moving on, moving. Daniel: Let's hope it ends. Ha ha Alright. Well hey, at number nine there are two of you. You guys have the same player at number nine. No Nico Collins. Break it down. Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: All right, y'all let you go first 'cause I wanted to move ⁓ down a little bit. So I'll let you go first. Me Mario: Okay. What yes, exactly what I thought. Exactly. I I was John wants him to move on from CJ Stroud. Daniel: Quarterback play. Jonathan: No book, I okay. God, I'm just shitting on the quarterbacks today. Come on, guys. Look, there is there is no top five quarterbacks this th this year. I'm sorry, I've shitting on all the quarterbacks. They're all gonna do crap. ⁓ it's a top forty. I just move ⁓ down. I just moved ⁓ down. So yeah. Me Mario: No he N N Nico Collins would have been wide receiver one last year. ⁓ he was until he got injured. Daniel: Tis the season. Jonathan: Except yeah, except he got injured. So ⁓ Yeah, exactly. And see with that, I put him down a little because of that. And I want to move lower because of that. When you keep getting injured, you're glass and you just keep getting injured. It's usually the same thing. It's you know, I don't wanna see that. I don't wanna be a part of that. I'll tell people, hey, you know what, good for you if you got him and he did well for you, but I don't want that on my team because Daniel: ⁓ again. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: I don't wanna have to deal with somebody that drops out from week four to week seven, week seven to week eleven, and then he's back for the playoffs, but it's a question mark because he didn't play half the year, so I don't know if I want to play him or not. That scares the shit out of you when he's missed, you know, three, four games sportically through the year, you don't know what he's gonna do. Do you really wanna start that person in your championship when you really wanna win and put number four right there? Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Jonathan: That's what I'm saying. Me Mario: ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah. Well he's got Tank Dale coming back, so he'll be taking all the entry luck. Jonathan: I like that that that right there. I like Tank Dell this year. Tank Dell is gonna be one of my big guys. That's that's somebody I like this year. I don't I shouldn't be sharing that with you two motherfuckers. But hey, we have a podcast, and this is for the people, and I'm gonna share that shit. And honestly, Tank Dell's gonna be a fucking stud this year. So no, no, I'm not I'm I'm not gonna shit on quarterback play in Houston. Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: That's right. Yeah. Jonathan: ⁓ quarterback play could have been better last year, and actually I think it was it was gonna be, and and it was pissed poor last year. So it I think there's only one way to go, and it's up. So Daniel: Yeah. my number nine's Chris Olave. We went over that well on on why. Me Mario: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah, Crystal Love. It's a good one. And I'm not much lower than you guys. So all right. ⁓ my number 10 is Drake London. And yes, we talked. I'm not the highest on him. I moved him down just a little bit. I was higher. I had him at seven. ⁓ but again it's the dink and dunk. And two is not a bomb it down the field guy. He's short yardage gain and press. Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: Isn't it? Jonathan: And you know, I I I think that's that that kinda hits it right on the mark what you s what you laid out. So yeah. I'll put ⁓ at ten, 'cause they'll stay as top ten. So Daniel. Yeah. I'll put it in the black list. Daniel: Hmm. Cool. still top ten. my top ten is is a curveball for everybody here. He's one of my flag plants personally. ⁓ Zay Flowers. Every year he's a back end wide receiver one, even though people crap on him all the time. He's he's back end wide receiver one consistently Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: But this year he finally has no harball in the building, different kind of offense, different kind of coordinators, different coaching. It could be the time that they ⁓ finally give him the volume that he's deserved for the last few years. Jonathan: That's a huge take. And honestly, it's not a bad take. ⁓ you're right. He does get shit on because it's the team he's on. He's on the ground in town team that'll just take it down the middle with either the quarterback or the running back. So ⁓ but you're not right. Like he's the one guy to throw to. And you need someone to throw to to relieve that throw for the run. So yeah. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: You put ⁓ in a good spot. I think it's disrespect to put ⁓ I don't know, I think it's a little high, but I think you're ⁓ if I had to place him in I'd probably place him somewhere to like twelve to twelve to eighteen. And it's sad because I don't have him anywhere on my top twenty five. Yeah. He's not on my top twenty five. Yeah. Well, I mean, again, when you had to look at some of these names, I ⁓ Daniel: He's not yeah, he's not even on your list. Yeah. This is a difficult exercise. Jonathan: Ooh, I'll throw one for you. I'ma do it. Me Mario: He is Daniel: Ha ha ha. Me Mario: He's he's ⁓ so he's he's the last guy on my list. Jonathan: I just dropped the other one. ⁓ Yeah. Disrespect right there. Yes. Okay. And I will share Mario. I had him right at twenty five as well, next to you, and I dropped him because I put Marvin Harrison there. Daniel: Yeah He is. He's twenty five for Mario. Me Mario: Uh-huh. Okay, fair. Jonathan: So ⁓ but I think I'll I'll stick to what I just said about keeping them between twelve and eighteen and I'll drop ⁓ right at fourteen there. So yeah. Okay. ⁓ let's try and speed up our we got like fifteen more to go and we're still we're at an hour already. I know. We're just this is so bad. We we hope you guys are still listening. No one's probably still listening to this shit. God, I love you if you're listening. So okay. Daniel: Mario's ten. Hope y'all like long form. Me Mario: Okay. Right. Yeah. Jonathan: Where were we? Eleven. ⁓ Mario Thomas. Okay. BPJ. What a solid pick. And you know what? Again, the massive disrespect by me to I don't even have them on my list. Yeah. And I will say that is because of what I believe in their quarterback. ⁓ So yeah, take that one for fuck. I'll buy that for a dollar. ⁓ Me Mario: Brian Thomas Jr. Daniel: Mario. BTJ. Me Mario: Brian Thomas Junior. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: ⁓ huh. Ha ha Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: Yeah, I think ⁓ he is he's got his head on straight. Everything from Minicamp has been bombs down to Brian Thomas all day every day. So it's ⁓ if if he's back to what he was his rookie year, dude this is where he belongs. Daniel: Nice. Jonathan: Talented kid. It is a super talented kid. Mm. Daniel: He was he was playing injured and through depression last year. One of his best friends killed himself right before the season started. So you know, he was he was playing so i you know, give him give him a chance to recover from that and the injury, the the emotional and the physical injuries that he had from last off season and and it's year three, let him fly. Let's hope for it. Me Mario: Yep. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. All right. No, you're not wrong. Okay, so you're the highest on All right, eleven. Take us away around the horn, Mario. You're Me Mario: Okay, Drake London finally lands here. ⁓ we all know how talented he is, but like I said, with the other competition and the new style and the offense, yeah, I think that's where I put him here at eleven. Jonathan: made it look like you were gonna start backspacing. I thought you were about to take him out of your eleventh spot, but going what do you have at your eleven spot there, Daniel? Me Mario: I know. Daniel: I've got Devontae Smith. I mean the the with without AJ Brown split on how he scores kind of speaks for itself. I think he's he's ⁓ wide receiver one potential, but as caution I put him at eleven. Jonathan: See, I drop him down way lower, and it's because ⁓ that offense is gonna go well into the double tight ends. They're gonna play into the 12 man, and I I I think it's ⁓ their their tight ends are gonna take over there. So ⁓ Chris Olave will round out my 11th spot, and then let's jump to 12. I have Amika Aguka. I am the highest on him, and yeah, I will not stay. Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. Jonathan: If I picked with my heart in this spot over my brain I will not answer that, ⁓ truthfully. But yeah, I will say that he I did I did put him a little higher because of my love for I got Baker right here sitting on the on the chair. ⁓ and and look, I was not shitting on him for not saying he's our franchise quarterback. Don't you dare say that. Probably one of the better quarterbacks our franchise has had. But like okay, but I mean like a franchise quarterback, Bob Brady. ⁓ There you go. Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: Ha ha ha. Daniel: Mm. Yeah. Yeah, it's like him and Brady. Honestly, it's him and Brady. Yeah. Yeah. Jonathan: Tom Brady's the franchise quarterback. That dude's a that that's a franchise quarterback right there. So I'm just saying when you build a franchise around someone, that's the term franchise. Hmm. So okay. All right. I digress. Number 12. ⁓ Mario. No, Daniel. Daniel. We're we're gonna go let him snake it. Okay, so you're lowest on him. Yeah, 12, not far, not far. Okay. And ⁓ you are Daniel: Ne Nico Collins, same reasons why you guys have him hire. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: ⁓ second lowest. No, you're the lowest on ⁓ you're number twelve, Mario. See? Daniel: CD. Me Mario: I'm the lowest on C D Lamb. Just 'cause splitting with Pickens and not just Pickens but Florinay also has shown that he deserves the ball more. Jonathan: Okay, okay. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: And you you see that there you go. Florina, I think, is gonna do a little more this year and eat in and eat into both of their ⁓ their numbers, even pickings. So Me Mario: Yes. Good it's good for the team, not so great for fantasy. Jonathan: Yes. Yes. Okay. ⁓ thirteen. What's your thirteen? Me Mario: Christian Watson of Green Bay. Jonathan: You are the highest on him. Look at you. Daniel: Mm. Me Mario: Getting paid and playing the part. Now you got dubs and wicks out of there. Jonathan: ⁓ huh. Money. Yeah, yep, yep. Daniel: Third year breakout. Me Mario: Yep. Jonathan: God, I I hope love does better. ⁓ there's a quarterback that I want to see do well, ⁓ statuesque kind of guy, but he's not putting up the numbers that I think he should be putting up. You know? Daniel: Gee okay, so I was watching some film on him today and hearing somebody talk about him. Yeah. He he would have been a five thousand yard quarterback this year if his receivers didn't have all the drops that they did. Hit hitting him right in their hands. You know. The only one that could catch last year was Tucker Kraft and look at the year that he was having before he tore his ACL. So like, let's improve on that and he'll there. Me Mario: I shared that with you guys, yeah. Yep. Jonathan: Yeah. Mm. Raf was doing something. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: You know, just have the guys catch the damn ball. And so Jonathan: Yeah. Me Mario: Mm. Jonathan: That's a good thing to work on in practice. Come on, receivers, step it up. And tight ends. Catch standball. Me Mario: And and Christian Watson's drops his drop percentage has dropped precipitously. So he's he's catching the ball, he's been healthy, and craft is coming back, so I think Daniel: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Improving. Jonathan: see that it was like from twenty five to like nineteen percent or something like that. Yeah. I did see that. Daniel: Mm-hmm. I heard somebody else talking and they said Christian Watson's kind of been following the same career trajectory as Devontae Adams. And I went, mmm. Me Mario: Yeah. Yeah. But he's bigger and faster. Jonathan: Interesting. Hmm. Daniel: But ⁓ yeah, that is true when you look into it, and that's kinda crazy. So hey, they're not the same people, but who knows. Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: Mm, interesting. All right. Daniel: I've got Waddle at thirteen. Super high floor. Lowish. Yep. Go for it. Jonathan: Jalen Wow. Yeah. Yeah, we've been over that. Yeah, I know. God, man. ⁓ I think he could be higher. I just I don't I I keep s I we're I don't wanna I don't wanna keep going on to the same players 'cause we'll just keep talking on it. But man, I think he could do well. Yeah. ⁓ Jameson Williams. I have Jameson Williams here. ⁓ I really think ⁓ I think the whole wide receiver core in Detroit takes a step up and just this is wide receiver two sitting at thirteen, so Daniel: I don't Yeah. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Nice. All right. Go ahead. Number fourteen. Jonathan: ⁓ Zay Flowers. Yeah. All right. And I moved him up. ⁓ I won't say that you convinced me or I put him on the list 'cause he wasn't even on my list. ⁓ out of it on the list. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ no, honestly, I mean like he was on my list previously, but I knocked him off. I thought Marvin Harrison should be there. So I just I don't know, I'm starting to now you're getting into the names that I start to struggle with and you're like, Okay, where do you guys move these things around? and Daniel: He di he put him on the list. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Daniel: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Jonathan: Mm, even my next name on my list. Do you s should you be a little lower and I I can see a couple of that should be a little higher and I'm gonna do this and do this. Yeah. They all to be replaced. Yeah. Points. Points. One yard, two yards difference, yeah. Daniel: ⁓ the next the next ten are razor thin. It's razor thin margin. Yeah. Yeah. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Yep. ⁓ I have Terry McLaurin. I have fourteen. First year. He will be the true number one in Washington. Jonathan: Now, is it his on year or off year? Question mark, because he's one of those guys that goes on and off 'cause scary Terry. So is it a scary year or a terry year? So I need to know. Daniel: Yeah. I'm saying it's more of a terror year. Jonathan: Okay. All right. That would be really good for Jaden. It would be really good for Jaden. I think he had a really kinda good end of the year last year. He started to do well towards the end. ⁓ so I'm kinda I'm sketchy on on Terry McLaurin. Me Mario: I I I definitely think it's an on year for him. But I just couldn't fit him up yeah. Jonathan: You both are higher. Yeah. No, you guys are both higher on him. And I that was one name I struggled with. Yeah. ⁓ definitely. Definitely. ⁓ and Mario, this is where you have Waddle. Daniel: Yeah. I'm way higher, but yeah. Me Mario: All right. This is where I finally have Waddle at fourteen. Jonathan: Hm. Lowest on a waddle. That's all right. I mean, honestly, it's a pretty good window where we have ⁓ sitting and Me Mario: Yeah. And that that was just like he usually misses a couple games. Sutton already has chemistry with Bonex. How does Bone X look? So this is just where I put him, but I I think his ceiling's higher than this. Daniel: Mm-hmm. ⁓ yeah. Jonathan: Okay. No, I won't be the highest on this name. ⁓ I will move I'm gonna move that. And I'm gonna move it to there. Daniel: Alright. I'm gonna go with my number fifteen player. ⁓ I put Brian Thomas Jr. here. Jonathan: Good pick. Good pick. Daniel: I just I think he just bounced back here. Mm-hmm. Yep. Alright. Go ahead, Mark. Yes. Me Mario: Insane talent. And I've got Josh Downs. Josh Downs with Michael Pittman gone and Alec Pierce still recovering. ⁓ it's him and Warren. And I I th I think Downs is finally gonna show what he's what he's got, so Jonathan: Mm. Yeah, I think it's gonna be a warren year. Yeah. I think he'll be a good I think he'll be good, but I think he's gonna be the number two on that team. I think Warren will be the number one there for sure. Me Mario: We'll see. Jonathan: I don't know. Just something just something I'm thinking. I'm feeling, you know. I I'm kinda high on their quarterback. I don't know what you're saying, but I'm kinda high on their quarterback. Daniel: Mm see. Me Mario: Wait. Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: I like their quarterback. Jonathan: Honestly, he did really well and if he comes back and shows that he can do it after his injury, I'd like to see that. ⁓ Me Mario: He's he's one of the smartest quarterbacks in the league and he's always been held back by injury and I think now that it's not his shoulder or neck, he should be fine. Daniel: Or franchise. Cool. Who you got at fifteen, John? Jonathan: Well yeah. ⁓ Luther Burden. Gimme some gimme some Luther Burden. I will be the highest I will be the highest on him. I'll take that. I'll take that. I think I think they're gonna do well. I think they're gonna move the ball around. They have the ability in Chicago to put that ball anywhere on that field. It's like Tom Brady in two thousand fucking like six and seven. Dude just got so many targets, it's gonna be spread around or everybody's useless. Daniel: ⁓ man. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Fantasy wise, but you can't stop the team's offense, you know what I mean? Me Mario: So Wi wishful thinking I left all the Chicago receivers off my list because ⁓ I'm hoping it all goes to Loveland. ⁓ And it is like Tom Brady to Gronk ⁓ Jonathan: Yeah. Daniel: Mm. Jonathan: Yeah, Jick Rock. I can see it. I can see it. Gloston Lovelin is gonna be a top top three tight end, I think. I got him high. I think I even have him at two on my list. That was my ranking, so yeah. Okay, so fifteen. What's your fifteen? Daniel: Ha ha ha. Me Mario: Yeah, he's up two at mine. Daniel: Yes. ⁓ sixteen. Me Mario: Sixteen, yep. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Sixteen? ⁓ okay. Down to sixteen then, though mine is Mike Evans. Mine is Mike Evans. Yeah, I mean I think ⁓ you know, new year, new team, purdy to Evans is gonna be kinda purdy, I think. I don't know. Daniel: Mike Evans. Me Mario: Nice. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Me Mario: I I think it will be. I think they're gonna click really well. And I I I see good things happening there. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah. Mm-hmm. Daniel: Yep, I agree. ⁓ my sixteen is Josh Downs. ⁓ I just think it's his year. Contract year, no Pittman. Yes, it'll be Tyler Warren and him, but ⁓ I think that they'll both eat. Contract year. All right. All right, Mario. Yeah, ugh, bet. Jonathan: contract here for him. Hmm. Good to good to know. I'm gonna move his name up a little bit here. What am I what am I talking about? Me Mario: Yeah. Alright, and then unfortunately I have Rashi Rice. I hate this guy. I think he's awful. I think she'd been in jail instead of in the NFL. But I think he's gonna play this year and with the six game suspension, I still think he's gonna make it right. Jonathan: ⁓ not even on my list. No. You think so? Hmm. Dang. I mean it is Patrick Mahomes. So we will put that and caveat that that he does have one of the better quarterbacks. But ⁓ yeah. ⁓ man. I don't know. I don't know if he plays as much. Yeah, I I left him off my list for that very reason. I'm not sure what his suspension looks like. Me Mario: I I don't like it. Daniel: Mario's the Mario's the only one with Rashid Rice on his list. Jonathan: Yes, he is. Yes. Me Mario: Ugh. That's that makes me feel even dirtier. Thank thanks guys. Jonathan: Yeah. Well we'll let you continue on. Yeah. Wash wash that out of your mouth with something else bad. Daniel: Now, ⁓ Mo, go ahead and get your other guy that you're the only one that have on your list so Me Mario: All right. George Pickens. George Pickens. ⁓ yeah. Jesus Jonathan: No, no. Again, Dak. No, no, no. I I I'll put ⁓ I'll put Florina higher than ⁓ Pickens this year. Daniel: That's ⁓ I it I think that this is a reasonable expectation for Pickens. I personally think that Florinoy is gonna eat into his more than he is Lamb. And so I took I I put them both down. I think he's top thirty, but he's he's not top twenty five for me. Yeah. Yeah. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah. If we went a little longer, he his name would be there for sure. ⁓ yeah, absolutely. But he's he's not sitting in the top twenty five on my list, no. There's too many other good names sitting there and you're your your seventeen is another w name that deserves to sit there in front of him in my opinion, so Me Mario: Yeah. I can see that. Daniel: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Me Mario: I could see that. Daniel: But I mean Not Romadunze. Yeah, I'm I'm still high on r ⁓ I know there's target, you know, discrepancies and all of that, but I mean when he for the four games that he was healthy, he was the top receiver in the league. Flat out. He was top well, he was the top fantasy receiver when the four games that he was healthy. So then he Jonathan: Hey yeah. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. ⁓ he's gonna he's gonna eat. ⁓ it's a good year. Let's see Caleb break the he'll be ⁓ he'll break the mad curse. Let's see it. Knock, knock, knock. Let's see it. Daniel: Then he broke his foot and then there's all these other you know, and it's just like mm, so I'm like ⁓ I he'd be s I hope I I hope he shatters their their never having a quarterback over four thousand yards. I hope he passes for fifty five this year. Mm hmm. Jonathan: four thousand yard record. ⁓ yeah. God I wanna see it. I wanna see him do so well for them. It's just Yeah Me Mario: So Colsta Loveland, let's go. Yeah. Jonathan: Love it. All right. My number seventeen is Michael Pittman Jr. ⁓ it's so gross to say that. Just I really like the talent of the receiver, but ⁓ that quarterback throwing him the ball. That dude needs to retire. And I believe it is his last season. He said he's gonna hang up hang it up after this year. Thank God. Thank Daniel: Mm-hmm. Me Mario: ⁓ man. He's he he's gonna get his little badge on his sash, just like ⁓ what's his name from up? Help assisting the elderly. And ⁓ he is the perfect, perfect target for Aaron Rodgers at this stage, and I think he's gonna be a volume king. ⁓ Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. He could be ⁓ incredibly touchdown dependent, just how many touchdowns. That's it. That's it. I think he could be super touchdown dependent. The guy can boom. He could be a little higher on this list because of that. I just mm yeah. Me Mario: I I think he's gonna be awesome. I just f it depends on how many touchdowns they get. I think the number of targets though are gonna make him top twenty easy. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah, in a PPR. Yeah, he'll be good in a PPR league, I think. Yeah. Absolutely. For sure. ⁓ just like this name just like this next name of mine is Josh Downs. I apparently am the lowest on Josh Downs at eighteen, so Daniel: Ooh. He is not even on my list. Yep. But we're way, way above industry. I think industry has him at like wide receiver thirty right now, thirty something, thirty-two. And I'm like, disrespect, man. He's gonna be a PPR, half PPR monster. Me Mario: Yes, they're re The ridiculous. Jonathan: Dang Yeah, that is that is some disrespect. Let's I wanna go we're gonna go back to these rankings at the end of the year and see how we did comparing to all of our rankings. I'm gonna I wanna see that. Yeah. That'll be a fun episode. Something funny. Something funny. Daniel: Yeah. It'll be fun. You're gonna be like, Who is what were we smoking when we put this stuff together, you know? You know. ⁓ my ⁓ eighteen's Mike Evans for me. Me Mario: I can't wait for that. Jonathan: Good eighteen. It's a good eighteen. I Me Mario: Yeah. Yeah it is. And mine is Michael Wilson of the Cardinals. Daniel: Bold take. Three in a row, Mario, three in a row. Jonathan: Not even on anybody else's yeah. Very bold. Although I would like to point out that I think Carson Beck is actually gonna have a pretty damn good year. I like Me Mario: ⁓ that's it. I gotta remove Michael Wilson then. Jonathan: Guy like Carson Beck. So I don't know, something about that quarterback. Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: Beck back No, not not so much here. Jonathan: It's okay. That's all right. Yeah, apparently he was doing really well today, so Daniel: Mm. Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. ⁓ let's see, let's see. Where are we at? ⁓ you're nineteen, Mario. Mm, that's bold. Hey, paired with Daniel too. Woo! Why do I not even have him on my list? Well, ⁓ I can't I cannot tell you. I put Rubagunze there. Daniel: Cool, Me Mario: Chris Chris Godwin. Daniel: Two. Mm-hmm. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Mm-hmm. You chose Mbuka. Me Mario: Yeah. Egg Egg Buka you have at twelve, so you're the highest on a buccaneer. Jonathan: I do, I do. And ⁓ I think he comes back and he has a much better year not being injured this year and he'll be the number one target for Baker, I think by the end of season, so Daniel: Yeah. I you know, that's that's where the money's at. That's what people are saying. ⁓ I just was I I'm just listening to Well, I'm listening to the press conferences and the receivers talking about him, about Godwin. And when they're when people they're they're like talking about each other in depth and how, you know, they're really good, they've seen a lot of growth and they're like and so how how's Chris Godwin doing? And they're just like Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: I I just don't see Godwin finishing the season. I think he makes it hurt. Mm-hmm. Daniel: CG's doing CG things. You know, like he's he's awesome. And it's like nobody's really saying anything about him, but if you kind of read between the lines and how the receivers that are doing really good things there are don't have anything to say besides dude's just doing doing his he's doing his thing. So they're flabbergasted at how good he is to in comparison that I'm like Jonathan: Mm-hmm. ⁓ Me Mario: Is it? Jonathan: Mhm. I wanna see him do well. I'd love to see him do well. Daniel: He could be an absolute steel league winner this year on your dynasty team because he could be a wide receiver one that you get in the like eighth round of drafts. Jonathan: End of the draft. Some people may not even have ⁓ drafted. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: So I'm higher on him than industry, Mario, same, but I'm just I'm just hearing what they're saying and I'm kinda reading between the lines and going, are they just keeping it quiet or what? Because it seems like he's showing out, so Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: If only I had another spot or two here. Yeah. No, it's a good pick. I wish I had some more space. I don't know. Well, let's see. Roma Dunze. ⁓ Rome is not WR one on my list on his team. I put Luther there, but I just have Luther's just break it out this year. And they covering covering Rome so he doesn't get as much he's getting targets, but he you know, he's had some struggle with catching, so I I have him not getting as much. Daniel: So nineteen you have Romadunze. Mm. Yeah, Jonathan: And it going the other route. So ⁓ twenty Devontae Adams. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Mm okay. Me Mario: All right. Very nice. Jonathan: Yeah, yeah, yeah. ⁓ you know. Exactly. And he's gonna continue with his touchdowns. There's not a whole lot of crazy yardage. ⁓ I think again, Kyron Williams gets more defense gets more time on the field and tackle, tackle, tackle, tackle, tackle, and who knows, maybe we still see ⁓ Aaron Donald come out of retirement 'cause he wants another Super Bowl ring. Who knows? It's so flip flop. It's so flip flop 'cause you see him like his his you see his woman holding the Daniel: Touchdown King. Me Mario: Yeah. That would be fun. Jonathan: The phone and they're sitting on the couch together and he's like I'm not coming out of retirement And then you see him on a podcast talking to Pat McAfee and like, ⁓ I don't know, I think I may have to make that phone call and you're like, Make up your fucking mind, dude. We all need to know Daniel: It it's gonna be after the buy. That's what my thought is. He's gonna he's gonna wait and see, make sure everybody's healthy, and then be there for the push at the end. Me Mario: Yep. Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah, you think that long? Oof wow, I didn't even think just waiting that long. Woof. Woof. That's not bad, 'cause that's and I bet he still makes just as much money. Yeah. ⁓ man. All right. ⁓ you're twenty, Daniel. Daniel: Half a season. Half a season. Yep. I this is where I have Christian Watson. ⁓ again, boomer bust, so that's why I put him at twenty. He fix he fixes his hands and he's a wide receiver one. He's a top ten guy. Fixes his hands. So I split the difference for me. Jonathan: Good place. Yeah. Yes. Yes. I think the same I think the same thing about Mario's number twenty. If he can fix those hands. Me Mario: Yeah. McLaurin. Daniel: It's ha it's his health that's been a problem. And shitty quarterback play. There I go on the quarterbacks though. He's never had a quarterback. Jonathan: Wow. Me Mario: ⁓ yeah. But McLaurin has ridiculous hands. Jonathan: Whoa. Whoa, shitty quarterback, but he's got Jaden Daniels. What are you talking about? Daniel: I mean previously, he had Kirk Cousins for a while, but he couldn't stay healthy. Jonathan: You saying Kirk Cousins isn't a good quarterback? I'm just talking with you. Come on. Yeah, I shit on quarterback play here with him too, so that's why he's not even on my fucking list. I don't even have on my list, so yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Well, you're n you're number twenty one, Mario and I don't have on our lists either. Jonathan: You know, and AJ was a lot higher on my list and he just kept being pushed down this entire episode. And I contemplate moving him off ⁓ for another name right now, but ⁓ we're already to number twenty one, so I will drop AJ Brown. And honestly, I just think Daniel: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: I don't know. Maybe he does well. I like his quarterback. I'll say that. I like his quarterback. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Dude is dude is drama and he doesn't play well when he's in drama. Jonathan: ⁓ he's full drama mode. And I hate dr receivers that are full of drama. I do not draft them. They do not come to my team. And this guy, I have once in my once I have drafted him on a team, and it was incredibly dirty. I did not like it. And I will say I did not do well that year. And I'll blame him. I'll blame him for sure. Me Mario: Yeah. I I think he's DK Metcalf Anniversary Edition. Jonathan: That's a funny take. I like that. Anniversary edition. What colors is there? Yeah, what colors is there. All right. Twenty one. Mario ⁓ Daniel. Okay, are you highest on Garrett? Yeah, you're the highest on them. Wow. I yeah, I definitely moved him down my list as well, so Daniel: Yeah Me Mario: Ha ha ha. Daniel: Garrett Wilson. First jet, I guess I am, yep. This was pre-geno punching, but I'll still keep it here. Jonathan: Yeah. Gino being Gino. I'm not sure I can yeah. Whoof. He might drop off my list completely, but ⁓ Mario. Me Mario: Yeah, he fell off my list and I have coming up next, Michael Pittman Junior, 'cause I just think he's gonna get all the volume from Aaron Rodgers. Jonathan: Yeah, me too. Me too. I don't know. I like your twenty two though. Daniel: Point. Me Mario: Yeah, thank you, sir. I know. ⁓ Alec Pierce coming up. ⁓ if he does get everything all straight, he was a hell of a long bomb target. And the only reason why I have him this low is because ⁓ Daniel Jones did Jonathan: I like your next few picks. I'm surprised they're a little low, to be honest, but hey, you're on your list. They're on your list. Me Mario: get injured and it will take a little while for him to get fully repaired. And so he may not be sitting a launch as much, which is why I moved downs up. Jonathan: Okay. You're twenty-three. We're gonna finish out the list and we'll move across to Daniel next. Okay, cool. Mike Me Mario: Okay, cool. Mike Evans. I just think the c connection in San Francisco's gonna be magical and we're gonna weep every time we see that beautiful connection. It will be very pretty. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: Dare we say thirty? Yeah, dare we say Purdy. Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: We'll wanna hold a candlestick up to that. Jonathan: ⁓ Daniel. ⁓ Daniel. Okay. ⁓ Mario finish out. I gotta hear Daniel. I gotta hear the logic. I gotta hear the logic. Yeah, I like this pick. Daniel: Mm-hmm. He Me Mario: Okay. Tet Tethero McMillan is number twenty four. And ⁓ dude showed he's got what it takes. And Jonathan: Man, Carolina Panther. Man, what am I doing as a buccaneer being a Carolina Panther fan, I guess. Me Mario: Shh he's he's got what it takes. And then ⁓ number twenty five is gonna be Zay Flowers. And the reason why I dumped him down this low is because I think for the first time he's actually got competition and for who was drafted they actually did a nice approach getting several very capable rookies to come in and compete. And ⁓ I think Mark Andres is gonna be a safety blanket and Zay Flowers Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: Mm. Hm. Hm. Not bad. Not bad. All right. ⁓ Daniel, you're twenty one and down, twenty two and down. Yeah. Daniel: Nice. ⁓ twenty-two and down because we twenty one's Garrett Wilson. Twenty-two Devontae Adams. Touchdown fiend, you know. ⁓ twenty-three I might be the only one that has him is T. Higgins. It's a it's a borough year. He's on the list for that. That's ⁓ twenty-four Marvin Harrison Jr. Again, that's a that's an injury thing from last year also. He just wasn't healthy. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. Me Mario: Yeah. I almost put him instead of Pierce. Jonathan: Mm. I had ⁓ here, but I moved ⁓ off, yeah. Yeah. Daniel: dysfunctional team, dysfunctional quarterback, you know, we'll see we'll see how that goes. And twenty-five is I have ⁓ Jalen Coker over Tedo McMillan. Now when Coker was hurt a majority of the last year, but after the first three games that he came back Jonathan: Very dysfunctional quarterback, yes. ⁓ Hmm. Daniel: And into the playoffs, the last game of the season into the playoffs, he was the number one target on that team when he was finally healthy. And so I am not knocking Tettero McMillan, but sometimes some people just have a better connection with different wide receivers. And I would definitely class my classify myself as a fantasy coke head because I love all of the statistics behind his play. Jonathan: Mm. If it carries through. Daniel: There's no reason why he should not be higher on most people's lists, but I think that there is a chance and I'm going out on a limb just so that I can speak this piece that he is actually the number one wide receiver for the Carolina Panthers. Or he's gonna kill it in the beginning of the season until they finally start taking coverage away from Tedaroa McMillan, and then Tedaro McMillan's gonna have a good second half of the season. So Jonathan: Cocaine's a hell of a drug. Me Mario: It's Daniel: Hell of a drug. Jonathan: Yeah, solid, solid pick. Look at you. Coker all the way, buddy. I love it. Okay. ⁓ all right. My twenty-two is Christian Watson. Yes, he's your cokehead. I love it. Starting a really bad nickname here. All right. ⁓ Christian Watson since a twenty two. I had moved Brian Thomas Junior onto my list at twenty three, feeling that just couldn't leave the mad disrespect of him not being there. Me Mario: Co kids. Ha ha ha. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: But it's mad disrespect for his quarterback. He's not higher on my list. ⁓ Garrett Wilson, ⁓ because of his quarterback play is sitting so much lower. ⁓ he was higher on my list and I just kept moving him down and down. And he almost ticked off. But I stopped tinkering a while ago. Yeah, I stopped tinkering a while ago, so I stopped moving people. 'Cause honestly like I would have dropped AJ Brown off. I probably would have moved a few people up, so ⁓ but Marvin Harrison will round out Me Mario: He dro Yeah, he dropped off of mine. Jonathan: ⁓ my top twenty-five. I think I have just I don't know, I've been a Harrison truther since he's been drafted. I know that he is super talented. He's just he's bigger than his dad. He's got all the things that really matter to make a good wide receiver do better. That's all I gotta say. ⁓ Daniel: Come on. Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah, or I'm not drafting you anymore. Okay. Wonderful top twenty five list, guys. 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