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Drive Thru News #4 - Happy Halloween! · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  Hello and welcome to another installment of the Drive Thru, October 2020 edition.
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  This is Brad, your host.
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  With me as always is Eric, and we've got Tanya as well.
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  As you may know, the Drive Thru is our monthly recap where we've put
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  together a menu of local, racing, and random car Jason videos.
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  Now let's pull up to window number one for some industry news.
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  First thing I'm going to talk about here is Ford says that they're
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  killing off the Shelby GT350.
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  It's time to say goodbye.
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  They didn't really announce they were kind of forced to because
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  there were some rumors going around that they were going to do this.
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  But because of the GT500 that is coming out, the 760 horsepower Mustang, super
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  Mustang, essentially, they are ending production now or relatively soon
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  this fall on the GT350 and the 350R.
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  is a very sad day for Mustang enthusiasts.
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  Those cars were probably the greatest Mustangs ever made until
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  people start driving the GT 500.
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  I assume GT 350 ran for six years and was widely unchanged during that time.
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  And it sported the flat plane crank, the Voodoo V8, 526 horsepower and
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  six speed manual transmission.
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  To replace this car, they are releasing a Mach one, uh, which is going to
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  have similar power to the GT three 50.
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  And it's also going to have the same six speed transmission from the GT three 50.
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  Sad news, sad Panda over here that that car is being killed off one
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  because it's such a great car.
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  And, and also because anybody that was looking to secure one on the used market.
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  Better do so quickly because the prices are going to skyrocket.
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  And next month's headline reads, Ford says goodbye to Mustang Shelby GT500 in lieu
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  of the King of the Road Cobra edition.
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  Right, I mean this is just going to be a downhill battle against Chrysler.
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  This is, this is what I see.
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  Unfortunately, I agree with you.
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  I think the 350 and the 350 R were a great compromise car, especially if you
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  wanted a dual purpose track street car.
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  But I've said it many times before, and people have asked
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  me if you could buy a new car to do everything, what would it be?
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  And I usually respond, if you told me the last car I was ever going to own
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  was a Shelby 350, I'd be okay with that.
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  So are we saying that there's a thing as to.
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  Too much power?
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  Because I thought everybody always complained you make a big power big motor
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  of America and now we're complaining that all we have 700 horsepower and not 500.
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  It's the Star Wars race, right?
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  It's the race to a thousand, but we've already gone there.
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  I mean, the demon and all those different challenger options, they're
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  already there making four digit power.
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  So I'd say, Like we say about Chevy being late to the party.
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  I think Ford's late to the party in terms of making big power numbers compared
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  to some of the other muscle cars.
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  I mean, if you're looking at the numbers that even the new Corvette supposed to be
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  putting out, it's like, all right, okay.
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  I think as a driver's car, the three 50 was the best of everything
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  to quote Jeremy Clarkson.
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  I mean, yes, there was such a thing as too much power.
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  He said it about, I think it was the eight 12 super fast.
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  Well, he was test driving it and he just, there is such a thing as too much power.
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  And if Jeremy Clarkson, you know, Mr.
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  Moore power, there's too much power.
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  Then yeah, it's, it's, it's a thing that can happen.
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  760, how are you going to use 760 horsepower?
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  On a racetrack, let alone the street.
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  I mean, some race cars don't even have that much power.
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  I think the, the IMSA GT cars are around the 500 to 600 range.
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  I don't think they're pushing over, over 650.
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  Well, they also weigh probably 1200 pounds less, if not more.
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  I mean, that's probably a low ball number.
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  So power to weight ratio on a, On an IMSA GT car is better than
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  a street car with less power.
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  But they can all, they can also use much stickier tires and suspensions
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  completely different and things like that.
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  But for an everyday car, you know what we're going the wrong way.
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  Who are we kidding?
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  No, there's, you can never have too much power.
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  Screw this, but to finish out the story, the sixth generation
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  Mustang has been around since 2015.
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  And in that time Ford has sold over 633.
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  Thousand of these cars worldwide.
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  I'd say that's a success given that this is a pony car that,
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  you know, until recently they haven't really sold overseas.
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  It hit market and it's just, it blew up.
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  It is a great car.
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  Eric will wax poetic about this car all day long.
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  Uh, the, the S five 50 Mustangs are excellent cars.
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  The GT three 50 was the best of the best of them.
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  So it is, it is sad.
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  I just hope that we don't go the way of.
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  Mustang 2.
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  We give all the credit in the world to Iacocca and the team that developed the
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  original Mustang and it was a hot cake seller as well, selling, you know, a
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  million plus Mustangs at the original, but you know, the Mustang 2 was not so good.
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  So let's hope that whatever comes next for the new generation of
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  Mustangs is not a repeat of the past.
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  So speaking of the Ferrari 812 Superfast, at some point we'll have an episode
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  where we don't talk about rich people.
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  And how much money they have, let me know, let me know what that is.
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  That's not this episode.
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  Unbeknownst to me, I didn't realize that Ferrari actually, I think for
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  about the past 10 years or something will make you a custom Ferrari, one
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  of a kind, if you have enough money.
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  And so recently they have made a custom Ferrari based off the 812 super fast.
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  And as the news release stated commissioned by a discerning European
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  client, the latest offering in Ferrari's line of unique coach built one off models
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  is a vibrant evocation of the values that define Ferrari in relation to GT racing,
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  a car that is equally at ease on the road as it is hitting the apex on the track
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  in the hands of a true gentleman driver.
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  Now I will say if you Google custom Ferrari A12 super fast, I will give
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  it to this discerning European client that he's got some good taste because I
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  actually think he made it better looking.
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  In my opinion.
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  So kudos for him and his one of a kind Ferrari from the front.
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  Yes.
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  I like the back better.
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  Really?
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  I don't know.
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  I'm digging it.
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  I think Ferrari also did this.
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  There was something bouncing around Jalopnik a year or two ago.
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  Somebody had a custom one off made based on the 488.
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  Very similar deal.
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  They made a one off and that car was stunning as well.
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  I'm all for letting rich people do rich people things with Ferraris and make
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  these one offs because I think they're all beautiful, all the ones I've seen.
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  I just thought the title of the article was misleading, right?
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  And from Jalopnik, the clickbait was Ferrari basically
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  made a prettier Dodge Viper.
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  And I'm like, it looks nothing like the Viper.
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  I don't even know what they're talking about.
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  And they're taking a shot at a car that isn't even being made anymore.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  And the Viper has its own unique style.
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  Which you can recognize right away.
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  All the Ferraris nowadays, in my opinion, kind of all look the same.
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  Not to say that that wasn't the case like back in the 80s with the 3 Series
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  Ferraris, the 308s, the 28s, the 48s, etc.
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  They all look the same, but I don't know.
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  At least it wasn't designed by a computer like the Senna and the
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  Veneno and some of these other cars.
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  Viper?
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  No, I don't think so.
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  Now, I haven't seen any spy photos of this alleged new Viper that's coming.
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  That they've been talking about ever since Fiat took over Chrysler.
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  But we'll see, you know, looking at this cat, this car more, it looks like
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  the wealthy businessman was looking at the two 50 GTO when he, and he was
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  inspired by that car to make this one.
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  Cause it very much has similar lines to me, uh, to that car.
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  The front of it looks like the F Type Jag.
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  That's what I, when I first glanced, I was like, it looks like a Jag.
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  So what else is going on in the industry?
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  Uh, Chevrolet, you know, they just came out with a new car, the C8 Corvette.
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  Well, other than not allowing me to sit in them at the dealership, they have
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  issued a stop sale order on C8 Corvettes because of a brake by wire issue.
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  Basically, there's possibly material contamination within the
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  electronic brake boost system.
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  And basically it can cause the brake boost system to not be able to
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  communicate with the brake pedal, forcing you to have to apply more pressure.
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  And then the system doesn't talk to each other and it just creates an issue and
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  you could die in a fiery ball of, uh, it does not just affect the Corvette.
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  It also affects the trailblazer, the encore, whatever that is.
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  And a few different Cadillacs.
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  This is the first recall that Chevrolet is issuing where you actually
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  have to go back to the dealership.
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  And the fix is basically to replace the brake boost module.
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  So what was wrong with vacuum?
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  Uh, it was too archaic.
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  It stopped the cars too fast.
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  Oh, okay, gotcha.
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  It worked!
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  Ah, that's the problem!
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  That's the prob got it.
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  Okay, all right.
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  But we can move on.
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  Thanks, Chevy.
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  Yeah.
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  And Chevy, I've got a little tip for you.
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  Please put a 1 C8 and whatever dealerships are selling C8 Corvettes in the showroom.
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  Don't have them all sold because people actually want to come and
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  look at a car and touch a car and see a car and sit in a car.
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  Before they buy a car.
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  Well, the problem is you got to stop licking the cars, Brad.
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  You know, you, you're doing it wrong.
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  Brad gets hungry.
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  So what else?
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  He don't want to know what the car tastes like.
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  So this next one or next two, maybe are probably irrelevant
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  to those of us living in the.
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  Wonderful United States.
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  But this is BMW who is unveiling yet another front wheel drive.
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  Uh oh.
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  Hold on.
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  Stop.
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  Don't fall out of your chair.
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  Yes, BMW and front wheel drive were used in the same sentence.
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  And we're not talking about minis.
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  On wheel drive.
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  So yes, they are getting ready to release their new 128 Ti hot hatch, which will
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  be front wheel drive and possibly is going to be an answer to Volkswagen's
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  GTI, specifically the GTI TCR.
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  That's going to be releasing only in Europe.
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  And I mean, this is not too interesting.
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  It's not coming to the U S so who cares?
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  There's a lot of people that thou hast the blasphemed greatly.
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  Oh, great Bavarians.
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  Um, how dare thou make a front wheel drive?
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  All I heard was grumble, grumble, grumble, grumble from all the BMW fans out there.
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  I mean, it's for their compact and sub compact cars.
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  So it kind of makes sense why they're doing it front wheel drive.
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  Let's you have more space, the engines oriented different.
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  You don't have the drive train going back to power the rear end.
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  So it lets you have a little bit more space in the cockpit cabin, if you will.
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  Um, so they're really doing it for those reasons to get a little bit more
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  space for people inside the vehicle.
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  And, you know, some other things are, well, you know, these days in modern
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  times, you really can't tell the difference between front wheel drive and
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  rear wheel drive, which you're going to trundle down the road and grab groceries.
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  As a normal person, that's probably true enough, with all the
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  nannies controlling everything.
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  Granted, if you were actually going to drive spirited or on a track,
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  you would still notice a difference.
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  But, again, it's not coming to the US, who really cares?
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  I will say, though, it's not unattractive looking.
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  I think they still need to figure out their whole kidney grill proportions.
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  It's not as horrific as, uh, Some of the cars we have here, but
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  it's not a heinous looking car.
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  I think it's a pretty nice looking lowered X3.
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  I was thinking Mini Countryman and BMW X1, which are already front
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  wheel drive, probably a very similar platform, much like, you know, VW has
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  the MQBs and all those different You know, shared platforms that they have.
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  U K L is what it's called.
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  So, yeah, it only makes sense.
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  And to your point, the whole reason behind front wheel drive, or like in the old
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  days, a beetle or a Fiat 500 or a Hillman imp where the motor was in the back.
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  Behind the people was to maximize the people space.
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  So it makes total sense.
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  And you're right.
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  If you've ever ridden in a BMW, as great as they are, they're very cramped.
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  And in the old days, especially in the heyday of the, you know, the E36s
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  and the E39s, you know, you got a three series cause it was the sports
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  car and you got the five series.
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  Because you wanted three extra inches of legroom in the back.
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  That's all you got.
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  And you went from one series to the next, right?
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  So I don't know.
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  I think in the advent of EVs, which we'll talk about here in a little bit,
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  it also makes sense to do away with a normal front engine, rear drive layout.
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  It just doesn't make sense anymore for these new power plants.
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  We'll see.
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  We're not getting one over here.
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  So BMW enthusiasts.
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  It's on the state side.
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  Do not panic.
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  They continue to rejoice.
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  Now the next one, all of probably zero people also care about this.
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  However, I care about this one.
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  You care about this one.
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  I would be remiss not to mention news regarding the fun favorite Toyota Yaris.
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  Who cannot love the little three cylinder beast that puts down 257
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  horsepower and 266 foot pounds of torque.
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  I mean, I would love to drive this little thing out of three cylinders.
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  Yes.
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  Wow.
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  That's impressive.
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  GR Yaris.
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  Makes those kinds of numbers.
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  I mean, that is insane.
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  Is that because of the turbo is the size of the block?
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  I was wondering that myself.
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  Details, details.
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  Okay.
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  Let's not worry about it.
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  Makes 250 horsepower at 47 pounds of boost.
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  Once it does it once, but it's spectacular that one time.
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  So apparently there's been some spy photos of a little Yaris running
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  around the Nurburgring lately.
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  And now there's all the rumor mills are going spastic about.
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  Is this the GRMN?
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  If you don't know what that is, that's the Gazoo Racing
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  Master of Nürburgring edition.
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  How exciting!
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  What does that bring?
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  How many more horsies and pounds of torque will we get out of three cylinders?
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  I mean, if you think about it, a hundred horsepower per cylinder
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  That's a hell of a ratio.
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  If they could get it up above 300 in that MN version, that would be nuts.
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  There was nothing indicating what, you know, any of the, the stats or
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  specs are on, on this version or what this version exactly is going to be.
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  But there's something coming that we will not get here once again.
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  So speaking of big horsepower and big fun, a company you've probably never
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  heard of until about last week, SSC, put out a car with a name that's even worse
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  than the Touareg and some of these other ones that have come out in the past.
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  They have the Tuatara, and I'm hoping I pronounced that correctly.
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  And if I'm wrong, I'm sorry, but come up with something better.
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  I shall drop knowledge now.
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  And it is pronounced Tuatara.
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  Sure.
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  I think I like Eric's pronunciation of the twatsara.
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  They are reptiles from New Zealand.
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  And it means peaks on the back.
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  And now that I look at the car, I totally get the name.
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  There you have it, folks.
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  That is the most interesting part of that entire article.
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  Thank you, James May.
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  It is now being touted as the fastest car in the world, with Incredible
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  top speed of 331 miles an hour.
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  It looks like every other super hyper car that exists.
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  So in terms of fashion and style, it's pretty cookie cutter, but here's the
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  one thing I take issue with this car is that yes, it just set the Guinness world
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  record for fastest car in the world.
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  However, I want to put a big Asterix there because the car that still
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  holds the fastest production car top speed in the world is still the
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  Bugatti Veyron or the Chiron, I guess.
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  In this case, because the SSC is still considered a boutique manufacturer, and
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  they are slated with a 2B and that's future production run of only 171
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  bespoke cars, which means there's got to be 171 people signing up for their
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  special edition limited production SSC.
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  So I know I'm splitting hairs here.
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  It is.
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  Technically the fastest car in the world, but I don't know.
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  I still tip my hat to Bugatti.
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  I think what's sad is that the owners, all the owners of these cars, they will
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  never reach five miles per hour because they are going to be put on a cart.
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  And dragged around their garage.
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  They're never going to run.
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  They'll have like 2 miles on them.
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  And it's basically just to get it off the truck that delivers it and into
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  the temperature controlled garage where they will stay until they
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  are flipped in about 3 or 4 years.
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  For whatever the new hotness is.
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  So switching to even more exciting news.
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  We are set to see ink dry on paper very soon.
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  The European Union has said they are going to improve a 38 billion, and that's
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  with a B, merger to create the world's fourth largest automaker by finalizing the
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  merger between Fiat Chrysler and Peugeot.
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  Once that's all said and done here, hopefully in the next couple
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  of months or so, we will finally see the birth of Stellantis, yet
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  another terrible name to follow.
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  Terrible names we've already mentioned on this episode, but I'm actually
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  excited to see where this goes, propelling Fiat Chrysler into that
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  number four spot around the world.
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  Stellantis and if it's right for you, some side effects may
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  include owning an Italian car.
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  Fun question since Peugeot and we'll get no cars over here probably, but
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  hypothetically in a different world, what Peugeot past, present, or future
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  would you want to see in the U S?
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  206 GTI from like the Gran Turismo days.
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  The 205 T16 is the rally car.
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  That's what I would go after the slightly older one, but I'm going
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  to mention one here in a little bit.
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  When we talk about retro cars, I'm actually a big fan of the
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  Peugeot RCZ and I'll explain that.
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  In a little bit.
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  If anyone's asking, I would have gone with the 205 turbo or a 208.
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  Well, speaking of retro cars, we found by way of Jalopnik, the missing
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  link between the last of the 300 Zs and the more modern 350 Z Nissans.
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  And it appears that there was a two door prototype.
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  That's a combination of the 280 ZX.
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  Some look and feel of the 300 ZX and some pieces borrowed over from the Sylvia.
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  We placed the link for this on the show notes, so you can check it out yourself.
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  Maybe leave some comments.
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  Tell us what you think.
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  Personally, I think it looks just like the Maserati 4200 GT
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  that came out in the early 2000s.
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  I agree with that.
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  At first glance, I actually thought it was Italian or maybe
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  the rebirth of like an Alpine.
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  I can see that.
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  You know, because at that time, well, this would have been in the 90s.
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  So Renault still hadn't had its influence yet, but it definitely has
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  some of those European cues to it.
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  Confused when I look at it, quite honestly, like, I don't
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  know what I'm looking at.
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  And I just stare at it, good or bad.
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  I haven't decided yet.
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  I just, And that's the beauty of prototypes, right?
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  As you kind of stare at them longingly wondering, should I, or shouldn't I?
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  They decided they shouldn't.
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  Absolutely.
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  And probably, okay.
• 19:57
  Honestly.
• 19:58
  So moving on from that and speaking of the French, I came across an
• 20:01
  article from grassroots motorsports, where they did a review on the.
• 20:06
  Peugeot RCZ, which I mentioned a couple of minutes ago, and it was
• 20:11
  Peugeot's answer to the Audi TT.
• 20:13
  So if you look at it closely, it carries some of the same design cues.
• 20:17
  It's based on the 308, the slightly larger hatchback, and it showed up in 2007.
• 20:23
  Audi was already working on the second generation TT at that point.
• 20:27
  So this kind of picked up where the Mark 1 TT left off.
• 20:30
  Personally.
• 20:31
  It's odd.
• 20:32
  It's quirky, but I like it.
• 20:34
  I've seen him in person.
• 20:37
  If I was living in Europe, it wouldn't be my first choice.
• 20:41
  I've actually never seen this car before, and I think it looks pretty slick.
• 20:45
  Totally looks like a TT.
• 20:46
  Like a TT kind of competitor.
• 20:48
  I think it's kind of cool, but here's the impressive part.
• 20:51
  Here's what gets me granted.
• 20:53
  It's front wheel drive.
• 20:54
  So everybody, everybody just discounted it immediately.
• 20:56
  And all the BMW people turned us off 10 minutes ago.
• 21:00
  It's got a 1.
• 21:01
  6 liter turbo.
• 21:03
  And depending on the model year, we're talking 266 horsepower and
• 21:08
  243 ft lbs of torque out of a 1.
• 21:12
  6.
• 21:12
  Now what most people don't realize is that 1.
• 21:15
  6 liter turbo is what eventually ended up in the Mini Coopers.
• 21:19
  So that's a strong bottom end that's been used in a lot of cars to include
• 21:22
  the SRT4 Neon and a bunch of other vehicles that use that same turbo.
• 21:26
  Peugeot 308 bottom end.
• 21:29
  It was also available as a diesel with up to about 160 horsepower and 251 pound
• 21:33
  feet of torque, but that gas motor, those are really, really good numbers,
• 21:38
  and those are still the kind of numbers we're seeing out of BMW and out of mini
• 21:42
  today on their smaller four cylinders.
• 21:44
  So as much as you can kind of take it or leave this car, I think it.
• 21:48
  Ushered in and it opened the door for these other companies to take advantage,
• 21:52
  at least of this power plant and use it for cars that a lot of us do like
• 21:56
  hats off to Peugeot on that one.
• 21:58
  Sadly, I don't think I fit.
• 22:01
  I stopped listening when you mentioned it needed one extra
• 22:04
  cylinder to get all that power.
• 22:06
  Nice.
• 22:08
  The Yaris Gazoo Racing, you know, has something to say about that.
• 22:13
  I want to know what it does at the Nürburgring.
• 22:15
  So many of you guys might not have ever heard of the B.
• 22:20
  A.
• 22:20
  T.
• 22:21
  Also known as the Batmobiles.
• 22:23
  And they're a set of Alfa Romeo concept cars.
• 22:26
  And they've been hidden away for many, many years now.
• 22:29
  private collection, and they're actually up for auction.
• 22:32
  And the price tag is somewhere north of 20 million dollars for all three cars,
• 22:38
  but a little bit of back history if you're not an Alfa Romeo enthusiast like I am.
• 22:42
  The BAT, which stands for Berlinetta Aerodynamica Technica, Which were
• 22:48
  prototypes designed to better understand the flow of air over a vehicle.
• 22:53
  So they're very streamlined.
• 22:54
  They're very futuristic looking.
• 22:56
  They're very much like the Batmobile from the 1960s Batman, but they
• 22:59
  were built in 1953 through 1955, and they're known as the bat five.
• 23:05
  The seven and the nine, and that's why there's three because they're actually
• 23:08
  three different models, although they look very close and they get
• 23:11
  slightly larger as every year went by.
• 23:14
  There's a lot of information on these cars in the article from CNN that we posted.
• 23:18
  You can also do a lot of research on them on the web, especially
• 23:20
  there's a really good blog.
• 23:21
  article on Wikipedia, but I also found out that there was a bat 11, which
• 23:27
  was designed nearly 50 years later to commemorate the original three bat cars.
• 23:33
  And it was built in 2008.
• 23:35
  And there was only one of that as well.
• 23:37
  So in total, there are only four bat prototypes.
• 23:40
  Ever built and the original three are up for sale.
• 23:44
  So if you got an extra 20 mil laying around, these would be really
• 23:47
  cool to add to your collection.
• 23:48
  So, uh, head on over to your local Barrett Jackson, right?
• 23:51
  I would like to start the bidding at 50.
• 23:55
  Uh, yes.
• 23:56
  50 and one, 50 and one.
• 23:57
  Do I hear 50 and two?
• 23:58
  And you might look at them and go, wow, they're unattractive.
• 24:02
  But guess what folks, they're not the ugliest vehicles ever.
• 24:06
  This is true.
• 24:07
  And we'll talk about that on another episode.
• 24:10
  But I got to hand it to Alpha because the coefficient of drag on those backcars
• 24:13
  is extremely low for that time period, unlike anything else at that time.
• 24:18
  So good for them.
• 24:19
  Again, Alpha pushing the boundaries of Italian design and engineering.
• 24:25
  So we talk about this all the time, not on the show, but just in general,
• 24:29
  talking about cars and car design, we've got a couple of members that say, That
• 24:33
  car design kind of died with, like, the whole aerodynamics revolution and
• 24:37
  trying to get the most efficient vehicles and, you know, uh, form following
• 24:42
  function, uh, and things like that.
• 24:44
  And I think they're quite stunning, actually.
• 24:46
  There, there's a lot of art, artistic ness in the design of these vehicles.
• 24:51
  And if they were aerodynamic at the time, I mean, This just
• 24:54
  proves that theory is wrong.
• 24:56
  All cars do not have to look the same to be slippery.
• 25:00
  So I don't know why car design changed, you know, over the years to where
• 25:04
  everything has to look the same.
• 25:06
  In an attempt to continue our thought here on what's old is new again.
• 25:10
  I think we're going to segue right into.
• 25:13
  A can of jolt cola.
• 25:21
  So what do you got for us, Tanya?
• 25:23
  Retro cars.
• 25:24
  Most people won't probably know a Fiat 126, but it's another one of those.
• 25:30
  It's very older Italian cars that a very small Italian
• 25:34
  person fits in very comfortably.
• 25:35
  Brad, unfortunately, no, you probably don't fit, but somebody decided to
• 25:41
  reimagine what a modern electric one, two, six would look like.
• 25:46
  And if you Google Fiat one, two, six electric, you'll see pictures of it.
• 25:50
  And I think this is a very good looking retro redesign.
• 25:54
  It's very reminiscent of the original, but it looks better.
• 25:58
  It's got the whole electrification.
• 26:00
  Yay for that piece, but it's cool looking.
• 26:03
  I've seen some comments, Oh, it just looks like the Honda E.
• 26:06
  No, actually, if you Google Honda E, which is their little electric
• 26:09
  that's coming out, this thing looks way better than the Honda E.
• 26:12
  Yes, they're similar in that they're both small little boxy cars,
• 26:15
  but it's kind of where it ends.
• 26:16
  I wish they'd make it put alongside the 500E that's soon to debut.
• 26:21
  And please put it right there with the retro Panda electric.
• 26:25
  Are you listening?
• 26:26
  Fiat Stellantis, are you listening?
• 26:28
  So for our Italian listeners out there, when I look at this, I see La 126, right?
• 26:33
  100%.
• 26:34
  It is a complete throwback.
• 26:36
  I honestly would say they should build this instead of the 500e.
• 26:41
  I like the way this looks.
• 26:42
  It's very rare anymore to see a two door coupe, especially a two door hatchback.
• 26:47
  You know, all these cars back then, be it, you could say on our side, the Escort.
• 26:51
  Or the GTI on the German side.
• 26:54
  I mean, they all have this very similar shape.
• 26:55
  The one unfortunate part is that this rendering it's, it's beige.
• 27:00
  I'd love to see it in another color, but it's a period appropriate color.
• 27:04
  And it's a color, but it's a color that the one 26.
• 27:07
  And, and I like it.
• 27:09
  I mean, I think it's cool.
• 27:10
  And I think we need more cars like this.
• 27:12
  I would love this.
• 27:14
  And I, and I like the Fiat 500.
• 27:16
  I mean, it's, it's iconic.
• 27:17
  It's classic, but if this existed and someone told me you have to choose
• 27:21
  between the two, I would definitely choose this one, but unfortunately again.
• 27:24
  We'll never see this.
• 27:25
  Moving on to more electric news.
• 27:27
  So besides that, we, we've got some industry news.
• 27:30
  We've got some Tesla news.
• 27:31
  We've got parts of cars falling off.
• 27:34
  We've got some battery fires and we've got two wheel fun for the first time.
• 27:39
  I don't think we've covered two wheel fun yet.
• 27:41
  So starting off with industry news around electric.
• 27:44
  So GM, similar to, uh, I believe it was last month.
• 27:48
  announcement from Ford with them retooling their Rouge plant for electric vehicles.
• 27:54
  GM is unveiling that their Detroit Hamtramck assembly plant is going
• 27:59
  to be reborn with a new mission to solely build electric vehicles.
• 28:04
  And I believe that factory was.
• 28:07
  Factory one or something like that.
• 28:09
  So they're going to call it factory zero now.
• 28:11
  Um, obviously that's a little bit of a play on zero emissions
• 28:15
  and all that good stuff.
• 28:16
  I thought it was patient zero.
• 28:18
  Whatever the factory is going to be where the new GMC Hummer.
• 28:22
  EV is going to be built.
• 28:24
  So if you heard this week, that unveiling and Brad's going to talk about it in
• 28:29
  a little bit, they're also going to build a couple other cars there as well.
• 28:33
  So the cruise origin going to be designed as part of the partnership
• 28:37
  between GM and Honda that they've got going on the facility itself.
• 28:40
  It's going to be, you know, 2.
• 28:41
  2 billion upgrade, and it's going to be pretty cool actually, because
• 28:45
  they're going to put it a hundred percent renewable energy to power it.
• 28:49
  So it's all going to be wind and solar, and they're going to do some other.
• 28:52
  If you will, energy saving and environmentally friendly
• 28:56
  things with the construction and how it's going to operate.
• 28:59
  So good on them.
• 29:00
  And I guess we'll be seeing some Hummers pop out of that.
• 29:05
  The Hummer GMC has decided that they're going to make the Hummer EV.
• 29:10
  And holy crap, they unveiled it with a five and a half minute video, uh,
• 29:14
  they took a cue from Lincoln and had a nice smooth talking Matthew McConaughey
• 29:17
  type dictate the details and everything over space and the Hummer driving
• 29:22
  on the moon or Mars or the desert.
• 29:24
  I don't know where it was.
• 29:25
  There are Wait, wait, wait, wait, they didn't bring in Neil deGrasse Tyson?
• 29:28
  That would have been better.
• 29:29
  That would have been better.
• 29:31
  He probably turned them down.
• 29:32
  He was probably their first choice and they, he turned them down.
• 29:35
  But anyway, there were a ton of specs.
• 29:37
  I've got a page here full of them.
• 29:40
  Thousand horsepower.
• 29:41
  This number is kind of funny.
• 29:42
  11, 500 torques.
• 29:45
  How they come to that, it's, they use a little bit of funny math.
• 29:47
  They take the actual torque number multiplied by the first
• 29:50
  and last gear ratios to come up with like a max torque number.
• 29:54
  They haven't actually said what the gear ratios are.
• 29:56
  So to come up to what the actual torque number is.
• 29:59
  Zero to 60.
• 30:00
  The first gear is.
• 30:01
  10, 000 to one, right?
• 30:02
  So, exactly.
• 30:04
  Uh, it's a CVT transmission.
• 30:06
  Uh, zero to 60 is in three seconds because every off roader wants to
• 30:11
  go zero to 60 in three seconds.
• 30:12
  The price is 112, 595.
• 30:16
  Uh, it comes with 35 inch tires stock, comes with adjustable air
• 30:20
  ride suspension that can take the ground clearance from 10.
• 30:23
  1 inches.
• 30:24
  To 15.
• 30:24
  9 inches, it can scale at 18 inch vertical, 24 inches of standing water.
• 30:30
  It can wait through my truck can wait through that.
• 30:32
  So I don't know why that's such a big deal, but in comparison to the new
• 30:36
  Sasquatch Bronco, which is the top of the line, like most offer capable Bronco
• 30:41
  that has a ground clearance of 11.
• 30:43
  6 inches.
• 30:44
  And so this, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 30:48
  The Sasquatch Bronco.
• 30:51
  Like, is that for real?
• 30:53
  Like, are we going to have the Bigfoot 150?
• 30:55
  Is that next?
• 30:56
  Because I'm so ready for that.
• 30:58
  The Bigfoot 150 exists.
• 30:59
  You just can't find it.
• 31:01
  Oh, okay.
• 31:03
  It's never been spotted.
• 31:05
  It's got four wheel steering.
• 31:06
  It also has a mode called crab mode.
• 31:09
  Which means all four wheels turn the exact same direction.
• 31:12
  And you can essentially just wait, what they all go forward, right?
• 31:17
  No, you can turn that.
• 31:19
  You can turn the wheel and the, all four wheels turn to a certain degree.
• 31:24
  Yeah.
• 31:24
  Crap, like a crab walks.
• 31:26
  Yeah.
• 31:26
  That's what I said.
• 31:27
  Crab mode.
• 31:28
  Crab crawl.
• 31:29
  Can I get a vanity plate for mine that says crab man?
• 31:31
  Sure.
• 31:32
  This could go wrong very quickly.
• 31:33
  Let's get off the crab thing.
• 31:36
  So the Hummer is a pickup truck, this edition.
• 31:39
  The, the edition one is a pickup truck.
• 31:41
  It comes with a five foot bed, which is plainly useless.
• 31:44
  Yeah, it's got a Ultium battery packs.
• 31:47
  It's a tri motor, 350 miles of range, 350 kilowatt, 800 volt charging
• 31:53
  up to 100 miles in 10 minutes.
• 31:55
  There is a package, it's called Watts of Freedom.
• 31:58
  The Watts of Freedom package includes, it's a launch control package.
• 32:02
  It primes the motor for max power.
• 32:05
  It lowers the ride height.
• 32:07
  It rumbles the seats.
• 32:09
  And it pumps in artificial noise through the speakers.
• 32:13
  You know, my Jeep does that when I do, uh, when I stand on the brake pedal
• 32:16
  and the accelerator at the same time, my first initial instinct or initial
• 32:21
  opinion of this, when I first saw it, other than the fact that, holy crap,
• 32:25
  it's going to be super expensive and I'll never own one or never want to.
• 32:28
  Uh, that it looks just like the Rivian R1T, the other electric
• 32:32
  truck that's coming out.
• 32:33
  It looks almost identical to me.
• 32:34
  Also, it's wider than an F 150 Raptor.
• 32:37
  Just saying a lot because those trucks are ginormous.
• 32:40
  I mean, a Hummer to me has always been something that someone with a lot of
• 32:45
  money is going to buy, I mean, because what they're so not useful, I mean, they
• 32:51
  get four miles to the gallon, right?
• 32:53
  The, the ice versions.
• 32:54
  And then my understanding is.
• 32:57
  A normal small svelte person barely fits inside one.
• 33:00
  They're cramped as all get out.
• 33:02
  Because all the drivetrain is tucked up into the cabin for ground clearance,
• 33:06
  so you can only fit four adults.
• 33:08
  Not well.
• 33:09
  I get it for the military use and all that, and they're extremely
• 33:12
  rugged and blah, blah, blah.
• 33:12
  Okay, that's a particular use case, but to go down to your local grocery?
• 33:16
  Yeah, but the, the mill size.
• 33:18
  Speck Humvee is not the same as your GM produced Hummer.
• 33:22
  Although they look the same.
• 33:24
  I understand that.
• 33:25
  So that's, I'm just, I'm just saying, cause people like, yes,
• 33:29
  there's Hummer of military and then there's the Hummer of every day.
• 33:33
  And if people think they're getting the military version, they're sadly mistaken.
• 33:37
  And the, and the Hummer that's.
• 33:38
  The pedestrian guts.
• 33:40
  If you want a GTM top tip, go pick up at a military auction, a decommissioned
• 33:44
  Humvee and stay away from the consumer oriented Hummer H1s that came out
• 33:50
  because the Humvee is going to be significantly cheaper and it's going
• 33:53
  to be a better vehicle for you.
• 33:54
  It's going to be a diesel and if you want to do some serious off roading,
• 33:57
  nothing can take a beating and a half.
• 33:58
  I just want to know in this Ludicrous mode that it has with 11 and a half
• 34:03
  thousand foot pounds of torque what tire they're going to put on this thing
• 34:07
  when I want to launch from a stoplight that won't basically Chernobyl the
• 34:11
  minute the launch control disengages.
• 34:14
  Duratrax.
• 34:16
  Oh, is that, okay.
• 34:17
  900 treadwear.
• 34:19
  No, and I don't want to offend anybody.
• 34:21
  Cause I always have thought of the Hummer as being kind of a niche thing.
• 34:25
  So just like any other niche car, you know what, if you got the money to
• 34:29
  afford it, I mean, whatever, more power to you, I mean, cool, but that's not,
• 34:33
  that's not the only thing GM has been lurking around in the dark, working on.
• 34:37
  Have they last month's talked about how they were going to Create an
• 34:42
  alliance with Nicola, who, you know, all hydrogen and EB and all that.
• 34:47
  And they're do this for semis on hydrogen and all this, this business.
• 34:51
  And they announced that they were going to do a big merger there.
• 34:53
  Um, or at least GM was going to buy in certain percentage into the company.
• 34:57
  And then.
• 34:57
  I think like, it was not even a week later, all of a sudden the
• 35:01
  shit started hitting the fan.
• 35:03
  And there were allegations against Nikola and misleading investors and bad
• 35:08
  characterizations of business dealings.
• 35:10
  And then shortly after that bomb drop, the other shoe fell and Milton stepped down as
• 35:16
  the CEO, and then he was accused of sexual assault and this, that, and the other.
• 35:20
  So then it was like, first thought was, Oh, what's going to happen now
• 35:25
  with this GM Nikola partnership.
• 35:28
  And so it looks like they're still sort of talking and it's likely
• 35:33
  to still happen that there's going to be some dealings going on.
• 35:36
  And they've got till December 3rd to reach an agreement on this 2 that's going down.
• 35:44
  There's really not much else to say on it.
• 35:45
  There hasn't been any other reporting other than GM hasn't fully walked away.
• 35:49
  They're still having conversations.
• 35:51
  Maybe it's still a good deal for them.
• 35:52
  I don't know.
• 35:53
  I almost think they kind of still need to go with through with it, especially
• 35:56
  since they announced the new, I agree with that vehicles that they're I'm
• 36:00
  sure they're counting on Nicholas technology and in part of this partnership
• 36:04
  to help get that off the ground.
• 36:06
  I mean, I feel like GM's walking around with this diamond encrusted
• 36:10
  dollar bill gun right now, just like, spraying money, making it rain 2Billion
• 36:15
  on the new plant factories here 2Billion to Nicola 2Billion over here.
• 36:19
  It's like.
• 36:20
  Good Lord.
• 36:20
  It's like, yeah, no wonder the Hummer is 112 grand.
• 36:23
  It's like, good God, but I'm hoping I'm crossing my fingers because maybe
• 36:28
  they've learned from the mistakes of everybody else from Ford, from Tesla,
• 36:31
  from Volkswagen, et cetera, and maybe they'll surprises and maybe they'll come
• 36:35
  out with something earth shattering.
• 36:37
  And that's where I'm kind of putting my faith at the moment that maybe GM will
• 36:42
  surprise all of us at the end of the day.
• 36:44
  So let's stay tuned on how that develops.
• 36:47
  So we would be remiss to talk electric and not talk about Tesla.
• 36:51
  So moving on to some Tesla news, apparently they're talking about building
• 36:56
  a more affordable electric vehicle that would be priced about 25, 000.
• 37:03
  Wait, wait, wait, so are they able to lower the price because they've
• 37:06
  decided to get their parts from Ace Hardware instead of Home Depot?
• 37:10
  They're getting military discounts at Lowe's.
• 37:16
  Senior citizen AARP discounts.
• 37:18
  Yeah, yeah.
• 37:18
  There's not a lot of information and to the extent that even the journalist who's
• 37:22
  reporting on this kind of Personally dubbed the car as the Tesla model
• 37:26
  two, seems like it would be something smaller than the current model three,
• 37:29
  helping bring the price down, et cetera.
• 37:31
  And the whole article was a little bit of annoying.
• 37:34
  Cause it was, you know, Tesla's 25, 000 electric car means
• 37:37
  game over for gas and oil.
• 37:39
  And it's like, not want.
• 37:41
  Uh, I love how Tesla's the only person making electric cars right now.
• 37:47
  You know, there's not Renault or Volkswagen or Porsche or Audi or
• 37:53
  Hyundai or Honda or any of those people.
• 37:55
  It's only Tesla.
• 37:56
  So only Tesla is going to be responsible for crippling the.
• 38:00
  Oil and gas industry.
• 38:02
  Let's get that right.
• 38:03
  I mean, it just goes on and on how it's going to be the Volkswagen
• 38:05
  golf killer and all this stuff.
• 38:07
  And it's going to go to directly compete against the ice.
• 38:10
  And I'm like, really?
• 38:11
  I mean, and if you're marking this in Europe, really?
• 38:14
  I mean, first of all, your competition is going to be the Renault and the
• 38:19
  Peugeots and the Audis and the Kias and the Hyundais and all the other things
• 38:23
  that are flooding into the market.
• 38:25
  And the Gazoo Racing Yaris, come on now!
• 38:28
  I mean, just wait for their electric version, it's gonna
• 38:30
  make like 900 horsepower with one little battery cell, okay?
• 38:34
  But it's like, I don't know, the whole article is slightly obnoxious.
• 38:37
  Yes, and?
• 38:38
  Great, make a more affordable electric vehicle.
• 38:40
  Wonderful.
• 38:42
  I mean it probably will be attractive in Europe where they still sort of like
• 38:47
  smaller cars, but I mean I don't know who would buy a Model 2 if it's going
• 38:51
  to be smaller than a 3 in this country.
• 38:53
  I don't know if it's as ugly as the Model Y that I saw on the road the other day.
• 38:57
  You can count me out.
• 38:58
  I've got two questions for you though.
• 39:00
  One, how many bags of mulch can it carry?
• 39:03
  And two, does Europe give EV credits like they do for against taxes here in the us?
• 39:10
  Does, do they have a program like that?
• 39:12
  I cannot recall.
• 39:12
  I'll leave it at that.
• 39:13
  I'm not sure.
• 39:14
  I'd have to look it up.
• 39:15
  Well, you know, we do need to circle back because I have to say, despite
• 39:19
  being a dinosaur, according to you guys and the listeners out there, I do
• 39:24
  still, I still like to burn my dinosaur blood, but I am intrigued by the idea.
• 39:31
  Of the E 150 that we talked about last month.
• 39:34
  And just after we recorded the third episode of the drive thru, Ford announced
• 39:39
  that they are coming out with a 430 horsepower hybrid version of the F 150.
• 39:46
  And apparently it's going to be able to tow up to 14, 000 pounds.
• 39:51
  Now, Ford, you have my attention.
• 39:53
  However, there's a big asterisk here.
• 39:55
  We talked about this on a.
• 39:57
  Different conversation.
• 39:59
  I'm a big fan of, and I wrote about this in a previous article, what I call self
• 40:03
  contained hybrid, where the ice motor is used basically as a generator to keep
• 40:08
  power going to the electric system, and I don't have to plug it in, and I don't
• 40:11
  have to deal with unicorn farts, and a lot of other things to power my vehicle.
• 40:15
  I don't have a good understanding to how this new F 150 hybrid is going
• 40:20
  to work, whether it's going to be a plug in and you're going to have
• 40:22
  some limited city range, or if it's going to be a self contained hybrid,
• 40:26
  similar to Ford's previous hybrids.
• 40:28
  If that's the case, you definitely have my attention because now you've
• 40:33
  got the range, you've got the backup power, you've got the ability to
• 40:36
  tow massive amounts, and probably you're Some really good city MPG with
• 40:42
  that self contained hybrid system.
• 40:44
  And all the articles tend to be very vague on listing out stats
• 40:46
  and specs and things like that.
• 40:47
  But it seemed like it was the hybrid, not the plugin, the self contained yeah,
• 40:53
  self contained not of the plugin variety.
• 40:54
  Furthermore, I'm extremely confused by this truck because there was one
• 40:58
  article that some, Folks had gotten their hands on the truck and all this stuff.
• 41:01
  They said there's not a single badge on it indicating that it's a hybrid, which
• 41:07
  the argument there was that sort of genius because you're playing to your market of
• 41:11
  people that, you know, want the built Ford Tough and Merca and gasoline guzzling.
• 41:16
  And I don't want no hybrid.
• 41:17
  And so.
• 41:18
  Don't put the hybrid badge on it.
• 41:20
  Confuse them a little bit.
• 41:21
  But then the few statistics that they gave, they talked about a 36 kilowatt
• 41:27
  motor and then it would run off a 1.
• 41:29
  5 kilowatt hour battery.
• 41:33
  And I'm really confused what the hell that could possibly do besides
• 41:38
  like Transcribed by https: otter.
• 41:38
  ai Run your auxiliary features.
• 41:41
  The other thing with this truck, a lot of the things, the attributes of
• 41:44
  it or whatever, it comes with the 220 volt plugs and all this stuff so that
• 41:49
  like, it's really being marketed more as this is a truck you work with.
• 41:52
  So I'm going to go to my construction site and I'm going to plug in my
• 41:54
  drill into the back of my pickup truck and, and all this stuff.
• 41:57
  And it's like, well, one, chances are, you're probably not going to.
• 42:00
  Back your pickup truck to wherever you actually need your drill.
• 42:03
  So I don't know how useful that's always going to be, but partially that battery is
• 42:07
  there to support these auxiliary functions for, you know, these particular use cases.
• 42:12
  I don't see such a small battery pack being useful to you're
• 42:17
  suddenly on an incline towing.
• 42:19
  I mean, that thing ain't going to do crap.
• 42:21
  Maybe it's powering your radio, but that's about it.
• 42:23
  But I mean, it's a step in the right direction, I guess.
• 42:27
  Now, in order to bring this truck to market, Ford had to do some testing and
• 42:33
  they got creative by building what I'm going to put air quotes around is robots.
• 42:38
  And if you look at the article, the first adjective that came to mind was robots.
• 42:44
  Because I don't know if these robots were designed by the local S.
• 42:49
  A.
• 42:50
  E.
• 42:50
  team at, you know, at like Michigan State or something.
• 42:53
  But to me, it wasn't the robots I was expecting.
• 42:55
  You know, granted, we all have a fantasy of Johnny Cab driving around
• 42:59
  and, you know, testing these vehicles.
• 43:00
  And the reason that they were using robots.
• 43:02
  Quote unquote robots to test the new E one 50 and hybrid F one 50 is
• 43:06
  that they're putting them in through conditions that no human would be able
• 43:09
  to, they say, quote unquote, survive.
• 43:12
  I think that's a big exaggeration, but I think the funny part of it was when
• 43:15
  you looked at how it was really cobbled together, it's cool that they're doing
• 43:19
  it and they're, they're doing a lot of this stuff remote, but it was just
• 43:22
  so janky and I think my favorite part.
• 43:26
  Was the ring gear that they attached to the steering wheel was zip ties.
• 43:30
  I mean, I just found myself chuckling at this going, we got 2 billion
• 43:35
  to spend on whatever, and this is the best you came up with in terms
• 43:39
  of robots for testing vehicles.
• 43:41
  It looks like something we've done.
• 43:42
  Yeah.
• 43:43
  Right.
• 43:44
  Zip ties in use.
• 43:45
  There's a, there's a warning label on the side of the door.
• 43:48
  Now I know where all the surplus stuff from RadioShack ended up.
• 43:51
  Robots come in all shapes and sizes.
• 43:53
  Okay.
• 43:53
  Yes.
• 43:54
  Maybe.
• 43:55
  They're taking a page from Tesla's playbook and buying all
• 43:58
  their supplies from Home Depot.
• 44:00
  We can build robots at Home Depot now, so we're all good.
• 44:03
  No, these all came from Radio Shack and Toys R Us.
• 44:06
  These are erector sets and little battery packs and stuff.
• 44:11
  Speaking of Tesla.
• 44:13
  And they're renowned build quality, just kidding.
• 44:17
  I mean, but seriously, I mean, it's common knowledge Tesla people themselves will
• 44:21
  admit that there are quality control, fit and finish issues with Tesla vehicles.
• 44:27
  We've got two more that are popping up.
• 44:29
  First is the Model Ys.
• 44:31
  At least one.
• 44:32
  And I believe there was at least more than one person to have the moon roof
• 44:37
  disappear while driving on the highway.
• 44:40
  So apparently you can be driving along the highway and your model Y and suddenly
• 44:44
  you can have a convertible Y for free.
• 44:48
  There was no upcharge for this folks.
• 44:50
  Part of the base package.
• 44:52
  Eric, there's your E prepared car right there.
• 44:54
  I know.
• 44:55
  What was that roof being held on by?
• 44:56
  Elmer's glue instead of superglue.
• 45:02
  It was held on by caulk.
• 45:04
  She's the wrong kind of pair.
• 45:06
  Yeah.
• 45:06
  Uh, you know, I don't, I don't, I hate to be mean.
• 45:10
  To them, but no, do it.
• 45:13
  Go for it.
• 45:13
  I mean, it happened to someone.
• 45:16
  So there you go, people.
• 45:17
  I like this next one better though.
• 45:19
  So on a model three, cause I like spending tons of money on a car
• 45:24
  to have pieces fall off while I'm driving when I didn't do anything.
• 45:28
  Okay.
• 45:29
  That's what I look for when I go car shopping.
• 45:31
  Don't know about the rest of you.
• 45:32
  So apparently the model threes, and this is A two year old problem that's
• 45:37
  finally being acknowledged by Tesla is, you know, you're driving around,
• 45:43
  you know, it's, it's a rainy day, you know, Oh gosh, you're out there.
• 45:47
  And then suddenly you're for your bumpers on the ground.
• 45:51
  And you wonder making my bumper fall off because of rain,
• 45:54
  the damn things melting off.
• 45:55
  No, no.
• 45:56
  From what I can gather based on pictures and everything is Basically,
• 46:00
  the whole rear bumper is one bumper fascia plus skid plate all built in.
• 46:05
  So apparently what's happening is road debris, sand, dirt, mud, water, because
• 46:11
  it's raining, because this only seems to happen when there's puddles and things
• 46:14
  like that, collects in the skid plate, and then eventually the weight is too
• 46:20
  much to bear, and the bumper falls off.
• 46:22
  falls off the car.
• 46:24
  I, I think they're going about this wrong.
• 46:27
  I think they, they meant to advertise it as a hydrogen electric car and
• 46:31
  that's just a water collector.
• 46:35
  Oh, that collects the water and there's a conversion.
• 46:38
  And then they have a, they have Home Depot parts in the trunk that convert it.
• 46:42
  And then use the hydrogen.
• 46:44
  They separate the hydrogen and oxygen.
• 46:45
  No, no, no.
• 46:47
  You don't understand.
• 46:48
  It is a water collector for the evaporative cooling system so
• 46:52
  that you can cool the batteries down by spraying water on them.
• 46:55
  And as it evaporates off it, it dissipates all that heat.
• 46:58
  We use it for inner coolers.
• 47:00
  It work.
• 47:00
  It's fantastic.
• 47:02
  Oh gosh.
• 47:03
  Can you imagine you're driving down the road or whatever and your
• 47:06
  bumper falls off 'cause it's crazy.
• 47:08
  I can honestly say that has never happened to any of the vehicles I've ever owned.
• 47:11
  What I wanna know is.
• 47:13
  And not that I've ever seen a Tesla in the snow, but does that bumper act as
• 47:17
  a plow when you're Well, now that's a, that's a great question now, actually.
• 47:20
  So apparently they have since fixed the issue with diffusers
• 47:26
  and, and other shields and this, that, and the other things.
• 47:29
  I don't know.
• 47:30
  They probably drilled some holes in the bottom of it.
• 47:31
  So drains because that would be, that would be more on par with the type of
• 47:39
  fixes that normally get reported on.
• 47:42
  At any rate, hopefully this doesn't happen in the future.
• 47:44
  The snow one's a probably really good question.
• 47:47
  I don't know, but watch out if you've got a model three or a model Y.
• 47:51
  So moving on from Tesla again, apologies, not to bash on them too hard, but you
• 47:56
  know, sometimes when you make it easy, so there was another article from friends
• 48:00
  at clean technica, their report on all EV stuff and things of that nature.
• 48:04
  They had a headline battery fires may slow the EV revolution.
• 48:08
  And I find their.
• 48:10
  Title a bit harsh, particularly they're pointing the finger right now at Ford
• 48:14
  and GM and Hyundai, who are all seeing issues with batteries and batteries
• 48:19
  overheating and then catching fire.
• 48:21
  You forgot a company to add to that list.
• 48:23
  Samsung had an issue with that too.
• 48:27
  And yes, that's very bad.
• 48:29
  And they need to address that.
• 48:30
  And they need to figure out, you know, the root causes and
• 48:32
  mitigate them and all that stuff.
• 48:33
  But.
• 48:34
  Also, let us not forget our friends Tesla, who also suffered some battery
• 48:39
  fire issues early on, and they have seemingly since addressed most of them.
• 48:45
  I mean, they seem to maybe still happen less frequently.
• 48:48
  I think the title's too critical.
• 48:49
  I don't think just because The technology and the evolution of that technology
• 48:54
  is suffering setbacks right now.
• 48:55
  It means that it's never going to work out in the future.
• 48:58
  They're already evolving battery technology.
• 49:01
  It's a known fact right now that lithium ion batteries are slightly dangerous in
• 49:07
  that they have an overheating tendency.
• 49:09
  And when they overheat, it leads to thermal runaway,
• 49:12
  which can then lead to a fire.
• 49:14
  These are known facts.
• 49:15
  And what are all the batteries?
• 49:16
  Kind of being used right now, lithium ion, because they're very powerful.
• 49:19
  They're, they're lighter weight, this, that, and the other.
• 49:21
  Evolution is already taking place.
• 49:23
  There's lithium iron phosphate batteries, sort of the same technology, the same
• 49:27
  kind of in the same family tree, if you will, of the lithium ion batteries.
• 49:31
  But the chemistry is such that generate less heat.
• 49:35
  While still generating pretty much the same amount of power.
• 49:37
  And so Tesla's actually talking about already shifting over to the lithium
• 49:41
  iron phosphate batteries, because they're inherently safer because
• 49:44
  they don't have this tendency for thermal runaway and to cause fires.
• 49:47
  Don't paint this doom and gloom prophecy here that Ford GM
• 49:51
  and Hyundai and everybody else are never going to get there.
• 49:54
  off and running with batteries because they're going to catch fire.
• 49:57
  No, what are they going to do?
• 49:58
  They're also going to move to lithium iron phosphate batteries because
• 50:02
  the manufacturers of these cells and whatnot are going to shift to that.
• 50:05
  I mean, at the end of the day, it's kind of growing pains.
• 50:08
  Are the different battery I guess components are the lithium iron
• 50:12
  phosphate batteries as efficient?
• 50:14
  Are they as powerful and as efficient have the same performance as lithium ion?
• 50:18
  Seemingly, yes, based on my very limited research, but your
• 50:22
  deep understanding of chemistry.
• 50:23
  So we'll give you that.
• 50:26
  Let's not.
• 50:27
  All right.
• 50:28
  So moving on from that.
• 50:29
  So we haven't talked about motorcycles very much or at all, and apparently
• 50:35
  there is a Texas startup that is going to be building an electric
• 50:39
  motorcycle called the Vulcon Grunt.
• 50:43
  All right, let's, let's stop there.
• 50:44
  Cause the names are getting really, really good these days.
• 50:49
  I don't make the names up.
• 50:50
  I just read the names.
• 50:53
  So let me get this right.
• 50:54
  The Vulcon Grunt.
• 50:56
  Not Volcan.
• 50:58
  Volcan.
• 50:59
  And not Voltron.
• 51:00
  Not Voltron.
• 51:02
  Volcan Volcan.
• 51:03
  And not gr Grunt.
• 51:05
  Exactly.
• 51:07
  Now you're with us here.
• 51:08
  All right.
• 51:08
  Brought to you by the letters . So the Volcan Grunt is gonna be a
• 51:13
  super affordable EV motorcycle.
• 51:15
  It's gonna be priced at just under $6,000.
• 51:18
  So $5,995, and it's gonna be ready allegedly in Spring 2021.
• 51:25
  The motorcycle's gonna have.
• 51:26
  50 horsepower, 75 foot pounds of torque and a 60 mile an hour top
• 51:30
  speed and a hundred mile range.
• 51:32
  Now I just heard everybody keel over going, what the heck?
• 51:35
  My understanding is I don't think this is at all intended to be a street legal bike.
• 51:41
  So I don't know much about bicycles, but there were some comments
• 51:44
  talking about how this bike is very similar looking to a Rokon.
• 51:48
  And even similarly named, I guess.
• 51:50
  So for people, motorcycle enthusiasts and, and kind of off
• 51:54
  roading vehicle enthusiasts, you might know what, what that is.
• 51:58
  So the intent is, this is more of a hobbyist or worker bike.
• 52:02
  So if you had, you know, your, I guess it makes sense in Texas, you're on
• 52:05
  your ranch and you want to get from one side to the other, you hop on your
• 52:09
  little electric bike and you scoot across the ranch, or maybe you're
• 52:13
  going to go out hunting or something.
• 52:14
  And this is your bike.
• 52:16
  Does it, it's, it's basically a electric dirt bike.
• 52:20
  I mean, if you think about it from that perspective, I can see the, the appeal.
• 52:24
  I can see the use.
• 52:25
  I can see sneaking up on wild animals much more easily because you don't
• 52:29
  have the going on where, you know, you can hear them from half a mile away.
• 52:33
  So I kind of liked the idea.
• 52:35
  I could see this being very popular in Asian countries, like, especially
• 52:38
  like Vietnam and places like that, where motorcycles are extremely popular
• 52:42
  and they have a lot of bikes that.
• 52:44
  over here we would consider not street legal.
• 52:47
  I could see something like this working out really, really well.
• 52:50
  I'm really shocked by the numbers though, because when you tell me,
• 52:54
  you know, a hundred miles of range and 60 mile an hour, I'm thinking
• 52:57
  moped on steroids, not motorcycle.
• 53:00
  So, I mean, neither here nor there, but you know, I'm still holding
• 53:03
  out for the Tron light cycles.
• 53:05
  So when those become available, please sign me up.
• 53:08
  And apparently this company too, they're also, they're
• 53:10
  going to be doing electric ATV.
• 53:11
  So they're very focused on this off roading hobbyist, not street
• 53:15
  legal running down the highway.
• 53:16
  So if you're in the market for anything, uh, look out for the Volcon Grunt.
• 53:20
  At your local grunt dealer, head on down.
• 53:23
  Also staying with the motorcycle theme.
• 53:24
  So I don't know if anyone's aware, the actor Ewan McGregor of various fames,
• 53:30
  most notably, I guess, Obi Wan Kenobi.
• 53:32
  From Star Wars, he embarked on a 9, 000 mile electric motorcycle ride, starting
• 53:40
  from basically the Southern most tip of Argentina, all the way up through
• 53:44
  South America, ending in Los Angeles.
• 53:46
  And he did this with a buddy of his and he was on a Harley Davidson live wire,
• 53:51
  which is Harley Davidson's electric bike.
• 53:53
  We're poo pooing just a second ago, very lightly poo pooing on the
• 53:57
  hundred mile range of the Vulcan.
• 53:58
  Well, the Harvey Davidson.
• 54:00
  Livewire has 146 mile range.
• 54:02
  So it's really not that much greater.
• 54:05
  So they were doing this as part of, um, some sort of TV series that he's,
• 54:10
  he's going to, he recorded all this whole journey for, so I think he's.
• 54:15
  I believe I recall him kind of being a bit of a motorcycle
• 54:17
  buff and even a car enthusiast.
• 54:20
  This isn't the first time he's done this.
• 54:22
  He actually did this in the early 2000s, I think on BMW motorcycles.
• 54:26
  He went all the way around the world.
• 54:27
  Yeah.
• 54:28
  So it'd be interesting to kind of see, obviously he's doing it this
• 54:31
  time, probably with the whole electric take, not a lot of details out.
• 54:34
  Cause they don't want to see.
• 54:35
  Things for the TV series, which is going to be coming out and apparently
• 54:38
  it's going to be on Apple TV for anyone who would be interested in this.
• 54:41
  They had support vehicles with them as well, which were allegedly
• 54:44
  Rivian R1T electric trucks.
• 54:46
  So that's pretty interesting.
• 54:48
  It sounds like it was a heck of a adventure.
• 54:50
  Obviously it goes without saying that there's probably not a lot of charging
• 54:54
  stations along the West coast of South America as you come up and whatnot.
• 55:00
  So.
• 55:00
  There were a couple of mentions about how they had to rely on the kindness
• 55:04
  of strangers, literally stopping at strangers doors and asking to plug into
• 55:07
  their, you know, electric outlets and then causing blackouts and stuff as they
• 55:12
  blew fuses in the, in the fuse panel.
• 55:15
  So I bet it's probably going to be a pretty interesting TV series.
• 55:18
  But nonetheless, they did travel that whole distance on electric motorcycles.
• 55:24
  It reminds me of the days of sailing ships.
• 55:27
  You needed to cross the Atlantic.
• 55:29
  It took six months.
• 55:30
  Now we can do it in two days, you know, or whatever.
• 55:34
  Yeah.
• 55:34
  I mean, he did do this in three months, apparently.
• 55:36
  So, and, and I don't think that was nonstop driving.
• 55:39
  I believe they, they stopped in different locations, probably tried to get culture
• 55:43
  and see different sites and whatnot.
• 55:45
  Granted.
• 55:46
  Obviously wait, you know, several hours to recharge.
• 55:49
  It's a really cool idea, but I think in some ways it adds fuel to that fire about
• 55:53
  electric and range and all that, which we won't get into in this particular episode.
• 55:58
  But, you know, I, I think it's interesting.
• 56:00
  I commend him for doing this.
• 56:01
  And then as Brad said, he did this.
• 56:03
  About 10 plus years ago, I actually didn't realize until time you
• 56:08
  shared this article that Harley was building an electric motorcycle.
• 56:12
  I mean, we have many people in GTM that are into motorcycles.
• 56:16
  I'm not one of them.
• 56:17
  So I thought this was actually Really interesting and I'm looking
• 56:21
  forward to seeing, you know, maybe what Harley does next.
• 56:23
  Maybe if they could double that mileage, you know, get it close to 300.
• 56:27
  You've got something.
• 56:28
  I think the live wire is kind of cool.
• 56:31
  It's been out for a little while, but it's way too expensive.
• 56:33
  Just like any Harley Davidson motorcycle.
• 56:35
  They just cost way too much.
• 56:37
  And it kind of reminded me a little bit of a sportster.
• 56:40
  I mean, it's not like everybody's regular Harley where, you know, you
• 56:43
  saddlebags and the whole kind of thing.
• 56:45
  He needed something for those off road conditions.
• 56:47
  So I like the fact that it was a little bit more racy, but I couldn't
• 56:52
  see your average Harley buyer going out and getting that because it's not.
• 56:56
  It's not the type of market that we have here.
• 56:58
  Now I, I'm probably doing a gross generalization, but the Harleys that
• 57:03
  I see out our way, most of them are, are the larger, you know, cruiser bikes
• 57:08
  rather than something like a sportster.
• 57:10
  Harley's trying to get away from their previous market
• 57:13
  because they're going under.
• 57:15
  So they're trying to find a way to capture a new audience and new.
• 57:19
  Buyers.
• 57:20
  And I think the live wire was a way they could have done it,
• 57:23
  but it's just way too exciting.
• 57:25
  It's like 25, 30, 000 for a motorcycle.
• 57:28
  Uh, millennials aren't going to pay that.
• 57:30
  They don't pay that for cars.
• 57:31
  They're not going to pay that for a Harley Davidson motorcycle.
• 57:33
  Um, but I do like the idea and to talk about the range a little bit.
• 57:37
  I mean, I've had a couple of motorcycles in my life and none of
• 57:39
  them got over 150 miles to a tank.
• 57:43
  I mean, it's got a four gallon gas tank and you know, they
• 57:45
  don't go very far anyway.
• 57:47
  So 146 miles range.
• 57:49
  On a motorcycle is actually pretty good as an aside, actually with Harley
• 57:54
  Davidson, I saw something earlier today.
• 57:56
  Actually, that apparently they're branching out into bicycles and
• 58:01
  they're actually going to be coming out with an electric bicycle line
• 58:04
  by Harley Davidson, which I can't imagine what that would cost.
• 58:08
  Look for those around your, your local track paddock.
• 58:10
  Yeah, there you go.
• 58:12
  All right, I think it's time for us to make some donuts and
• 58:16
  scoot into motorsport news.
• 58:19
  So first of all, we got to tip our hats yet again to our friends over at HPDE
• 58:24
  Junkie for always Providing us with the latest up to date information about all
• 58:28
  the track events going on in our area.
• 58:30
  Their list is extremely comprehensive.
• 58:32
  Always make sure to check it out.
• 58:34
  So the season is wrapping up here.
• 58:36
  We, Brad and I just recently released our fall finale episode from BIR.
• 58:41
  Unfortunately, Governor Cuomo had decided to start closing borders
• 58:45
  again and disallowing certain States from coming to New York.
• 58:49
  So we weren't able to really finish out the year like we wanted to at Watkins
• 58:52
  Glen with our friends from the Northeast.
• 58:54
  I'm happy to hear that a lot of people had.
• 58:55
  last weekend.
• 58:58
  But you know, there's really only a few events left in our area on the calendar.
• 59:04
  There's about three events left at New Jersey Motorsports Park.
• 59:07
  You've got a handful of events left at Summit Point.
• 59:10
  And that's to include helmets off to heroes, which is a charity
• 59:14
  event, which has been taken over by SCCA in the last couple of years,
• 59:18
  benefiting military veterans, etc.
• 59:21
  Usually held on Veterans Day this year happens to be held on November the 8th.
• 59:25
  So if you're You're looking to come out and have a good
• 59:27
  time, volunteer, et cetera.
• 59:29
  We also need coaches for that event.
• 59:31
  Look to either WDCR's website or Motorsport Reg for that listing.
• 59:36
  HPDE Junkie has a good number of events still left on the calendar for VIR.
• 59:41
  By my count, we have about six to seven VIR before they
• 59:47
  close the gates for the winter.
• 59:49
  So you're looking to make that trek for that.
• 59:51
  From the DC area, check out what HPD Junkie has on the calendar.
• 59:56
  And if you're somewhere else, remember that their schedule is
• 1:00:00
  nationwide and soon to include Canada.
• 1:00:03
  A little word of advice.
• 1:00:04
  If you're going to VIR, leave the slicks at home because the days start
• 1:00:09
  out typically in the thirties or forties around this time of year, and
• 1:00:12
  they don't typically go above 50, 55.
• 1:00:15
  Well, some exciting news for us.
• 1:00:17
  for 2021.
• 1:00:19
  There was an announcement through grassroots motorsports that Porsche is
• 1:00:23
  set to debut a North American Carrera cup.
• 1:00:26
  Now, a lot of the Porsche enthusiasts out there might be saying, well,
• 1:00:29
  this isn't really news to anybody.
• 1:00:31
  You know, we have all our GT cars and GT twos and GT threes and GT GT three blah,
• 1:00:36
  blah, blah, blah, and all this stuff.
• 1:00:37
  However, if you look at the history of cup racing, In North America,
• 1:00:42
  there hasn't been a fully sanctioned Carrera Cup since the days of the 993.
• 1:00:48
  And I'm actually really excited about this because I'm getting really
• 1:00:52
  tired of watching Ferrari Challenge and Lamborghini Super Trofeo.
• 1:00:56
  Seeing a Porsche Cup race for the first time in, let's call it, 20 years.
• 1:01:01
  Is pretty exciting.
• 1:01:03
  So I'm looking forward to this.
• 1:01:04
  I'm looking forward to seeing the final schedule.
• 1:01:06
  Obviously they're going to be coming to tracks like VIR,
• 1:01:09
  like Watkins, Glenn, et cetera.
• 1:01:11
  And so it's going to be exciting to see that kind of racing along with, you know,
• 1:01:15
  the featured races on an IMSA weekend.
• 1:01:17
  So good on Porsche.
• 1:01:19
  Sticking with racing news, NASCAR has added a couple races to the
• 1:01:23
  season next year for the Cup Series.
• 1:01:25
  Both of them at Bristol Motor Speedway.
• 1:01:28
  One of them in September during the playoff section of the season
• 1:01:32
  will be on the concrete track.
• 1:01:35
  But the most notable one is the race in March.
• 1:01:37
  March 28th at Bristol is going to be a dirt track race.
• 1:01:41
  So they brought in Tons and tons of dirt cover the track.
• 1:01:45
  Uh, and it's going to be the first time that NASCAR has run
• 1:01:48
  a dirt track race in 50 years.
• 1:01:51
  It's going back to the, uh, I guess the old days where NASCAR got its roots of
• 1:01:55
  the, the bootleggers running up and down the mountains, the last cup series race
• 1:01:59
  on a dirt track was September 30th, 1970.
• 1:02:02
  That was won by Richard Petty.
• 1:02:04
  Uh, so that's kind of interesting.
• 1:02:06
  Uh, two races at Bristol, one on the dirt, one on the concrete.
• 1:02:09
  It'd be interesting to see that the difference in lap times.
• 1:02:11
  The, and just the, the, the carnage that happens from a dirt track.
• 1:02:14
  I'm pretty excited about it.
• 1:02:15
  I'm not a NASCAR fan, but between adding the rovals, the, the half oval half
• 1:02:20
  road course tracks and adding something like this, they're definitely trying
• 1:02:23
  to appeal to a different audience.
• 1:02:25
  Uh, and I'm actually interested in tuning in next year to see what happens.
• 1:02:30
  Yeah, this definitely has my attention because nothing screams
• 1:02:34
  awesome like NASCAR's on dirt.
• 1:02:36
  Right.
• 1:02:38
  Kind of a dovetail to this.
• 1:02:39
  Recently, Mountain Man Dan introduced me to a show on the new
• 1:02:43
  streaming service, Peacock, and it's hosted by Dale Earnhardt Jr.,
• 1:02:47
  and it's called Lost Speedways.
• 1:02:49
  And the first episode is kind of an interesting episode.
• 1:02:52
  It's a touching episode, and he talks about, you know, his dad and
• 1:02:55
  his grandfather and stuff like that.
• 1:02:56
  But, uh, It highlights NASCARs on dirt down in North Carolina.
• 1:03:02
  And so I found it an interesting tie back into this particular article.
• 1:03:06
  So if you want to learn a little bit more about what Brad's talking about, why
• 1:03:09
  that ended, how they switched to asphalt, all that, I would definitely tell you
• 1:03:12
  to check out Lost Speedways on Peacock.
• 1:03:14
  It's worth a watch and it's available on the free side of the service.
• 1:03:18
  So you can tune in today, you know, whenever you like.
• 1:03:20
  Tanya, do we have your attention now for NASCAR?
• 1:03:23
  Actually, yes.
• 1:03:23
  I would say we have her attention.
• 1:03:25
  when they announced that NASCAR's going to COTA next year.
• 1:03:29
  Wow, that's She speaks with everybody, look at that.
• 1:03:33
  I'm just thinking about the S, like the Yeah, okay.
• 1:03:39
  Yes, I will watch that.
• 1:03:40
  Man, that hairpin at the end.
• 1:03:42
  Woo!
• 1:03:43
  If you think that's interesting, they've also said that they're going
• 1:03:46
  to do Watkins Glen with the boot, they're going to go to Road America,
• 1:03:49
  and potentially run the Indianapolis Road Circuit, the former F1 GP track.
• 1:03:54
  Are they planning to do any suspension modifications?
• 1:03:57
  Nah, nah, nah.
• 1:03:59
  Oxcart with slicks.
• 1:04:00
  We're done.
• 1:04:00
  I want to see NASCARs at Long Beach.
• 1:04:04
  And I want to see NASCARs at Laguna Seca.
• 1:04:07
  So basically, we're going full body IndyCars now.
• 1:04:10
  Is that what we're doing here?
• 1:04:12
  I mean, why not?
• 1:04:15
  Yeah.
• 1:04:16
  So, so IndyCars are running nothing but ovals and now the
• 1:04:18
  NASCARs are doing the road courses.
• 1:04:20
  Is that, is that what's happened here?
• 1:04:21
  If they can do super trucks at Long Beach, they can do NASCARs anywhere.
• 1:04:25
  But it just feels like Freaky Friday.
• 1:04:27
  You know, there's a lot of guys out there and some of our, our guys included, like
• 1:04:31
  Sam, who had, you know, as we talked about on the last episode was up at Road
• 1:04:34
  America doing the runoffs, et cetera.
• 1:04:37
  There are lots of guys that have budding.
• 1:04:40
  SCCA careers.
• 1:04:41
  But where do you go from there?
• 1:04:43
  Right?
• 1:04:43
  Unless you're 12 years old and super karting champion and this and that,
• 1:04:47
  and you've got somebody bankrolling you in the United States, maybe into
• 1:04:51
  something like NASCAR or stock car racing, et cetera, and working your way up.
• 1:04:54
  It's really hard to move out of some of these amateur and pro am racing series.
• 1:05:00
  Recently through an article through Racer, IMSA and SCCA are collaborating
• 1:05:05
  on how to cultivate more drivers coming out of SCCA to go into IMSA.
• 1:05:12
  So I'm really excited to see where this goes, and I think that's going
• 1:05:16
  to open a lot of opportunities for some very talented drivers
• 1:05:19
  in SCCA all around the country.
• 1:05:22
  To maybe have the opportunity to get away from formula enterprise and
• 1:05:26
  go into, you know, LMP cars or go into GT or whatever it might be, or
• 1:05:31
  some of these, you know, spec racer, Miata guys that are super awesome.
• 1:05:34
  They get the chance to, you know, drive in GTE or whatever it might be.
• 1:05:38
  So I'm really excited to see where this goes.
• 1:05:40
  And hopefully maybe we get some more American drivers.
• 1:05:43
  into these international series, which has been very difficult to do.
• 1:05:47
  I mean, I don't know all the facts like the guys from the International Motor
• 1:05:50
  Racing Research Center do about who won what and when we'll talk about them more
• 1:05:54
  in a minute, but I have a feeling like the last American that ran and won on
• 1:05:59
  the big stage was like Mario Andretti.
• 1:06:01
  You know, we're talking like 40 years ago.
• 1:06:03
  And so again, it'll be really cool to see where this goes.
• 1:06:06
  Now sticking with racing, Chevrolet.
• 1:06:09
  Has logged 80, 000 miles using 3d printed parts.
• 1:06:14
  Now, before you get all crazy, they weren't using like 3d printed pistons or
• 1:06:19
  any cylinder heads or anything like that.
• 1:06:21
  It's more of like the, the stuff you would expect, like the, the one
• 1:06:24
  piece items that you would expect.
• 1:06:25
  Um, but they use them in all their race cars in the car that runs an EMSA.
• 1:06:31
  In their IndyCars, the Silverado race trucks and the NASCAR
• 1:06:34
  Camaro that they've been using.
• 1:06:36
  I think that's kind of cool.
• 1:06:37
  I know 3d printing right now is expensive, but as the technology,
• 1:06:41
  you know, advances and it becomes more, I guess, readily available
• 1:06:44
  and more people are able to do it.
• 1:06:46
  It means you can print new parts trackside.
• 1:06:49
  Uh, if you've got the materials, it's very interesting to me,
• 1:06:52
  I think it's kind of cool.
• 1:06:54
  And in Formula One news, uh, some of you who may have been under a
• 1:06:58
  rock did not hear, Lewis Hamilton both caught and surpassed Michael
• 1:07:03
  Schumacher for most F1 wins in history.
• 1:07:06
  He recorded his 91st win at the Eiffel Grand Prix about a week ago.
• 1:07:11
  After that, Mick Schumacher, who's Michael's son, gifted him the Schumacher's
• 1:07:16
  helmet from the Final 2012 season.
• 1:07:20
  Uh, and then this past weekend, uh, he got the 92nd win and
• 1:07:24
  now he sits alone at the top.
• 1:07:28
  Eric, wake up.
• 1:07:30
  Oh, man.
• 1:07:30
  Yeah.
• 1:07:31
  Oh, were you talking about formula one again?
• 1:07:34
  Holy cow.
• 1:07:35
  But you know, it's an interesting question because Lewis Hamilton is
• 1:07:38
  still fairly young and he's still extremely dominant in that Mercedes car.
• 1:07:42
  Who cares?
• 1:07:43
  Who cares?
• 1:07:44
  I'm so tired of it.
• 1:07:45
  I watch Formula One.
• 1:07:46
  I think it's interesting.
• 1:07:47
  It is so boring.
• 1:07:49
  Oh my God.
• 1:07:50
  It's like a book report when I was in school.
• 1:07:52
  You watch the beginning, you watch the end, whatever happened in the
• 1:07:54
  middle is completely irrelevant.
• 1:07:56
  It is so boring.
• 1:07:58
  You're not going to watch the third Italian Grand Prix this weekend
• 1:08:01
  because they're at Imola this weekend.
• 1:08:03
  They've already done Mugello and Monza.
• 1:08:05
  I could care less, dude.
• 1:08:06
  There's so much more interesting racing.
• 1:08:07
  I'm On TV right now between IndyCar, TCR racing, IMSA, WRC.
• 1:08:15
  I mean, Formula One is kind of, it's just played out.
• 1:08:18
  I mean, that's my personal opinion.
• 1:08:19
  I know there's a lot of F1 fans out there.
• 1:08:21
  I stopped after Schumacher retired.
• 1:08:23
  And ever since then, I feel like I'm just watching WWE.
• 1:08:28
  Right.
• 1:08:28
  It's so much drama, so much BS.
• 1:08:30
  It's all super political.
• 1:08:33
  I don't know.
• 1:08:34
  Carry on.
• 1:08:34
  That's all I'm going to say.
• 1:08:36
  Why don't you tell us how you really feel?
• 1:08:38
  I'll go back to sleep.
• 1:08:40
  What's funny is that you mentioned that you were watching it back
• 1:08:42
  when Schumacher was dominant.
• 1:08:44
  How is this any different?
• 1:08:45
  It's like, it's still the same kind of racing.
• 1:08:48
  It's not, it's not really different.
• 1:08:50
  It's because back then they were still driving the cars.
• 1:08:53
  They were still mixed engines.
• 1:08:55
  They were still mixed technologies.
• 1:08:57
  There was still a lot of advancement.
• 1:09:00
  Now the cars are all the same other than the liveries.
• 1:09:03
  They literally all look the same to me.
• 1:09:05
  There really is no characteristic differences.
• 1:09:08
  The drivers are all like super young.
• 1:09:10
  They're all, in my opinion, they don't have the same.
• 1:09:14
  I don't want to use the word maturity because I see the stuff on Instagram.
• 1:09:18
  I see how all these guys act with each other, and it's funny for a minute,
• 1:09:22
  but they're not of the same caliber as a Fit Aldi or a Sena, or a Schumacher
• 1:09:28
  or a Stewart or a Hill, or a Graham or a Grabba or all these names.
• 1:09:33
  You're gonna look back and you're like, wow, Lando is a clown.
• 1:09:36
  And Ricardo.
• 1:09:36
  Yeah, he was a nice.
• 1:09:37
  guy.
• 1:09:38
  Nobody liked Hamilton, right?
• 1:09:39
  And I'm exaggerating a little bit here.
• 1:09:41
  It's different.
• 1:09:42
  And they've curated these characters and these personas around the
• 1:09:45
  drivers that don't need to be there.
• 1:09:47
  And so for me, it's ruined formula one, because it's no
• 1:09:50
  longer about the technology.
• 1:09:52
  It's no longer about pushing the boundaries.
• 1:09:54
  It's like this whole.
• 1:09:55
  Bread and circus thing.
• 1:09:57
  And I wanted to go back to the days where it was like Senate versus prost.
• 1:10:01
  Right.
• 1:10:01
  And it was, it was just different.
• 1:10:03
  And maybe I'm showing my age, but there's a reason I guess it's the golden era of
• 1:10:07
  F1, the modern era, et cetera, et cetera.
• 1:10:10
  Right.
• 1:10:10
  So I do agree with you that the Persona of the drivers has changed.
• 1:10:15
  It seems like there's a lot of immaturity bouncing around.
• 1:10:18
  You don't have any more of the James Hunt, like Playboys out there, you
• 1:10:21
  know, which was really cool back then.
• 1:10:23
  I guess it fit the era in which he drove nowadays, I guess, with
• 1:10:28
  millennials growing up and liking stuff like this, it's, you know, the
• 1:10:31
  persona of the driver is different.
• 1:10:33
  I agree with you that the personas back then were.
• 1:10:35
  Cooler and this is more fun, I guess, but there are people you look up to that
• 1:10:40
  you're they were your motor sports heroes.
• 1:10:42
  Nowadays.
• 1:10:43
  I have a hard time.
• 1:10:44
  I mean, and maybe it's because I'm on the other end of the pendulum, right?
• 1:10:47
  I mean, I'm looking at a driver.
• 1:10:48
  Who's let's call it 20 years.
• 1:10:50
  My junior.
• 1:10:51
  How do we how do you look?
• 1:10:53
  Up to them, you know what I mean?
• 1:10:55
  I guess maybe my kids will look up to them as a hero.
• 1:10:57
  I don't know.
• 1:10:58
  It's for me.
• 1:10:58
  It's just hard to relate anymore.
• 1:11:00
  I totally, I can, I can see that.
• 1:11:02
  And I understand your point.
• 1:11:04
  So anyway, we'll move on from formula one on a whole different plane of racing.
• 1:11:08
  The true, true pioneers.
• 1:11:11
  The true bat shit crazies, the motorcycle racers in a class of their own.
• 1:11:18
  So I came across a, an article that was mentioning Valentino Rossi and my dad
• 1:11:24
  used to watch all the super bike, the MotoGP, all the different racing classes.
• 1:11:29
  And, you know, so it was back in the day when we had VCR and we had
• 1:11:34
  TVs where you had to leave the TV on to be able to record on the VCR.
• 1:11:38
  Right.
• 1:11:39
  And so like, You know, countless, whether it was F1 at, you know, back
• 1:11:43
  then or, or motorcycle races or IMSA or whatever, there was always something
• 1:11:48
  being recorded on the TV and, you know, I'm trying to study on a weekend
• 1:11:51
  and well, there goes Valentino.
• 1:11:52
  So I happened to actually catch a lot of motorcycle races, um, long time ago.
• 1:11:57
  And even F1 races for that matter, don't really watch any anymore.
• 1:12:00
  Um, so anyway, I always like to kind of follow and see what Mr.
• 1:12:03
  Valentino's doing.
• 1:12:05
  Cause he's pretty much.
• 1:12:06
  Considered the greatest of all time in motorcycle racing.
• 1:12:09
  He's still active.
• 1:12:10
  He's I think 40 or 41 years old.
• 1:12:13
  So he's getting up there compared to the younger crowd that's coming in.
• 1:12:16
  And now he's a nine time world champion for people who don't know who he is.
• 1:12:21
  Seven of those championships are in the premier class, which is considered
• 1:12:25
  MotoGP, and then he's got one each in some lower CC, um, classes that he competed
• 1:12:30
  in when he was first starting out.
• 1:12:32
  So his record has not been broken yet.
• 1:12:35
  He there's actually, Mark Marquez is on, I guess, the cusp of.
• 1:12:39
  Tying him for MotoGP wins.
• 1:12:42
  He's sitting at six right now.
• 1:12:43
  He's not going to get it this year because Marquez basically shut
• 1:12:46
  himself down for the whole season.
• 1:12:48
  He broke his arm in the first race of the season.
• 1:12:50
  So he's been out.
• 1:12:50
  So he's not even on the points board.
• 1:12:52
  So we'll have to wait, I guess, till next year to see if he's able to tie Rossi.
• 1:12:55
  But the article that, that I came across was, uh, another former.
• 1:12:59
  Rival and racer Casey Stoner, who has since retired.
• 1:13:03
  Um, he's only with two world championships, but he, he made this
• 1:13:07
  comment about it's sad seeing Rossi celebrating top five victories now.
• 1:13:12
  And, and the article kind of went on that, you know, and it's true.
• 1:13:15
  I mean, he's no longer always winning.
• 1:13:17
  You know, number one position, et cetera, et cetera.
• 1:13:19
  He's, he's kind of mixing it a little bit.
• 1:13:21
  He, he does still get podiums, but he's often now back kind
• 1:13:24
  of in the top five and whatnot.
• 1:13:26
  But, and I guess he was being a little bit of critical of that and, you
• 1:13:29
  know, Oh, maybe it's time to retire.
• 1:13:30
  And then at the same time, you know, well, if Rossi is still out there
• 1:13:34
  enjoying it and having fun, it's up to him and rightfully so it is up to him.
• 1:13:38
  You know, I mean, he's.
• 1:13:39
  He's proved himself over and over again, he's just out there having a good time
• 1:13:43
  still, and he's still competitive.
• 1:13:45
  He's mixing up the field, more power to him, go for as long as he can.
• 1:13:48
  I mean, eventually you have a 41 year old or an increasingly older 40 year
• 1:13:53
  old competing against 20 somethings and they're at their prime, their
• 1:13:57
  reflexes and everything are there.
• 1:13:59
  And unfortunately, no matter who you are, those start to, to wane a
• 1:14:02
  little bit in your age and your, in your perspective has changed too,
• 1:14:06
  maybe he's not as aggressive anymore.
• 1:14:07
  Maybe he realized.
• 1:14:08
  Well, I don't need to do that last minute, late break, amazing pass in the last
• 1:14:13
  two turns to, you know, win the race.
• 1:14:15
  Maybe he decides it's just not worth it anymore.
• 1:14:17
  You know, whatever his reasons may be, but he is still out there.
• 1:14:20
  And interestingly, I don't know if many people know he actually is also.
• 1:14:25
  A little bit of a rally driver.
• 1:14:26
  And he's a seven time winner in the Monza rally.
• 1:14:31
  And he's actually set to race again in that rally that's coming up.
• 1:14:34
  So we'll see if he makes it in a eight time winner in that whole
• 1:14:37
  little, little championship they do.
• 1:14:39
  He's also competed in Britain, WRC, as well as one of the
• 1:14:43
  rally, New Zealand races.
• 1:14:45
  I love Valentino Rossi.
• 1:14:47
  I've been following him for years.
• 1:14:48
  I think he's amazing.
• 1:14:49
  And yes, he is the greatest of all time.
• 1:14:50
  In my opinion, on the formula one side, someone who's less Not quite
• 1:14:54
  as successful, um, but still kind of in a very similar situation.
• 1:14:58
  Kimi Raikkonen, I mean, he's still out there doing it.
• 1:15:00
  He's still mixing it up.
• 1:15:01
  I mean, this last weekend he went from 17th place.
• 1:15:04
  I think it was up to 10th place.
• 1:15:06
  And then obviously he fell back because of the car and just, he's, he's just
• 1:15:09
  out there having fun at this point.
• 1:15:10
  But yeah, I agree.
• 1:15:12
  If they're still having fun and they're still competitive enough to
• 1:15:15
  be mixing it up in the top, you know, five, 10 or 15 or whatever, why not?
• 1:15:19
  If people still want to give them money, throw money at them to get out there.
• 1:15:23
  And if people like their names, people like Rossi, I started
• 1:15:26
  watching MotoGP because of Rossi.
• 1:15:28
  I enjoy watching F1 partially because of Kimi.
• 1:15:31
  Why not?
• 1:15:32
  Hopefully they bring in more fans.
• 1:15:34
  I guess.
• 1:15:34
  I mean, I, I would, you know, kind of this whole conversation, we're talking
• 1:15:37
  about two drivers or pilot and a driver rather that have dominated for years.
• 1:15:43
  You know, you throw a Schumacher into that mix as well.
• 1:15:46
  And I kind of wonder though, why not, let's say, do your time and
• 1:15:50
  move on to another discipline.
• 1:15:51
  Right.
• 1:15:52
  And I'm not saying do something extreme, like, like Mika Hakkinen did
• 1:15:55
  where when he retired from formula one, he went to rally and he was
• 1:15:57
  terrible, but, you know, why not?
• 1:16:01
  You know, Hamilton, like you've already proven your point.
• 1:16:04
  Go do Lamont's like Alonzo did.
• 1:16:06
  Like I have more respect for Alonzo because he's gone and done other things.
• 1:16:10
  He's done Indy.
• 1:16:11
  He's done formula one.
• 1:16:12
  He's done IMSA.
• 1:16:13
  He's done Lamont's he's done all these other things.
• 1:16:15
  And so when I look at him, he's a more well rounded driver.
• 1:16:19
  And for me, those are the kinds of drivers that I'm more apt and more inclined
• 1:16:23
  to follow than, you know, the people that we were talking about earlier.
• 1:16:26
  And so, and you see that with.
• 1:16:28
  Other drivers that didn't make it like, um, who was it?
• 1:16:31
  Olivier pennies.
• 1:16:32
  He ended up being a touring car driver.
• 1:16:33
  He was extremely successful in touring car.
• 1:16:36
  He wasn't very good at formula one net.
• 1:16:38
  Then again, he wasn't on one of the better teams either.
• 1:16:41
  So there's some of that going on, but again, it's like kind of mix it up.
• 1:16:44
  You know, let's follow you to another discipline.
• 1:16:46
  Let's look at something else.
• 1:16:47
  There's more than just one way.
• 1:16:49
  Of racing.
• 1:16:50
  And, and, and this goes back even to that story of, uh, was it back
• 1:16:54
  when Montoya and Jeff Gordon swapped places, did that trading places day.
• 1:17:00
  And Jeff Gordon came up through carding.
• 1:17:02
  He got in the formula card.
• 1:17:03
  He's like, oh man, this is like the old days.
• 1:17:04
  This is amazing.
• 1:17:05
  And Montoya, he struggled with the NASCAR, but then eventually
• 1:17:08
  Montoya ended up in NASCAR.
• 1:17:10
  But it was good to see them cross the boundaries and try something different
• 1:17:14
  and not be completely typecast because the question is, yeah, so Hamilton
• 1:17:18
  just broke Schumacher's record.
• 1:17:19
  Where does he go from here?
• 1:17:21
  And does it really matter?
• 1:17:22
  Fun fact for formula one, the person you just spoke about
• 1:17:25
  Fernando Alonso, he's coming back.
• 1:17:27
  He will be in a Renault, I believe next year.
• 1:17:30
  All right, then let's see what's going on.
• 1:17:32
  He's come full circle.
• 1:17:33
  I think he's still trying to run Indy though.
• 1:17:35
  Cause he still wants that motorsports triple crown.
• 1:17:38
  Yeah.
• 1:17:38
  Which is super rare.
• 1:17:39
  And again, That is, you know, unless you're a Jim Clark, a Mario Andretti
• 1:17:44
  type, you know, AJ Foyt, those types of guys, there's very few names on that list.
• 1:17:49
  So to be on that list, I mean, that to me means more than I'm the nine
• 1:17:53
  time formula one champion, big deal.
• 1:17:56
  I will say in defense of Rossi, and it's probably more due to the nature
• 1:18:00
  of motorcycle racing is I wouldn't say that every race he was in, he
• 1:18:05
  was pretty Number one, and then the whole race went and he was always
• 1:18:09
  in the number one position, right?
• 1:18:10
  There was a lot of races where he was battling.
• 1:18:13
  He fell back in position.
• 1:18:14
  He came back remarkably, you know, forward in positions or it was lit or tons of
• 1:18:19
  races were literally, and maybe it was part of his awesomeness that he did
• 1:18:22
  it on purpose where, I mean, there was countless races where it's the last lap.
• 1:18:27
  He's not in first place, but he's somehow by miracle in the last lap.
• 1:18:32
  Four turns before the finish line pulls out, you know, this impressive
• 1:18:36
  pass from God knows where wins it.
• 1:18:38
  And a little bit as I don't know, is that just, he was that good at that time and
• 1:18:42
  could do those things and maybe held back a little bit or either that, or there's
• 1:18:46
  just the nature of motorcycle racing, there's just a lot more back and forth.
• 1:18:49
  So it's a little bit more interesting.
• 1:18:51
  It's, it's not, Oh, well, Rossi was in first place from lap one till, you
• 1:18:54
  know, the end of the, end of the road.
• 1:18:56
  I mean, the, the same.
• 1:18:57
  The same is true of Senna and some of the other great drivers.
• 1:19:00
  They didn't win every race they were in.
• 1:19:01
  And that's the part I have a problem with, with the current formula one,
• 1:19:05
  you know, everybody gets excited.
• 1:19:06
  Oh, well, Botas is at the top and so and so is on the pole.
• 1:19:09
  And then it's like three laps in and Hamilton's at the front.
• 1:19:12
  And then you're like, all right, it's time to turn TV off.
• 1:19:14
  Cause you know how that's going to end, right?
• 1:19:16
  So it does get boring if the same guy's always in the lead.
• 1:19:19
  And so again, in the old days.
• 1:19:21
  I think there was more competition.
• 1:19:23
  There was more discrepancy.
• 1:19:25
  There's more uniqueness between the cars.
• 1:19:27
  They weren't just cookie cutter.
• 1:19:28
  And that led to better competition.
• 1:19:30
  And I'd like to see that return in many of the sports.
• 1:19:33
  And to your point of drivers doing other disciplines, Jimmy Johnson from NASCAR
• 1:19:39
  will be running an IndyCar next year.
• 1:19:41
  Interesting.
• 1:19:42
  Someone to watch.
• 1:19:43
  We'll have to check that out.
• 1:19:44
  So now I think it's time to switch to our fan favorite section of the drive thru.
• 1:19:50
  A section we call Would you like some fries with that?
• 1:19:54
  Where we've scoured the world looking for the best in car adjacent news.
• 1:19:58
  So what's first?
• 1:19:59
  Best, but it's always interesting.
• 1:20:03
  So what's on the docket this month, Tanya?
• 1:20:06
  Well, the first one is this probably very little known Nissan 300 ZX
• 1:20:13
  turbo commercial that unless you were watching the super bowl back in 1990,
• 1:20:18
  you probably missed this little gem because that was the first and the last
• 1:20:22
  time that commercial was ever shown.
• 1:20:25
  And it's not because it was terrible commercial.
• 1:20:29
  It's.
• 1:20:29
  Very bizarre, um, and maybe fit in with 1990.
• 1:20:35
  I don't know.
• 1:20:36
  I mean, it's, it's this guy in his 300 ZX turbo and he's dreaming.
• 1:20:42
  And for some unknown reason, he's on some random deserted desert road and
• 1:20:46
  he's being chased by a motorcycle and then some bizarre looking prototype
• 1:20:51
  and then a plane, and then the plane is trying to catch him, but as he says,
• 1:20:57
  Just as they're about to catch me, the twin turbos kick in and he like
• 1:21:05
  skyrockets off some ramp or some crap like this, like off the hill in the road.
• 1:21:10
  I mean, it's bizarre.
• 1:21:12
  It makes zero sense.
• 1:21:13
  It was very dystopian, Mad Max ish.
• 1:21:16
  The reason why it was never, ever showed again is apparently the insurance
• 1:21:19
  Institute got very upset because apparently it was glorifying stuff.
• 1:21:24
  Speeding and it's like, really, have you seen a car movie
• 1:21:29
  or any other car commercial?
• 1:21:32
  No, it just exemplified everything that Ridley Scott put his hands on.
• 1:21:37
  If you've watched Aliens, if you've watched Blade Runner, what you described,
• 1:21:41
  dystopian, makes no sense, the whole thing, that is, you've summarized
• 1:21:46
  everything he's ever put his hands on.
• 1:21:47
  So, to me, when I saw this, I wasn't shocked, but I was I was in awe of
• 1:21:55
  what I had seen though, so I recommend people definitely check it out.
• 1:21:58
  What they didn't show at the end of that video is after the
• 1:22:01
  twin turbos kick in, the motor blows up and he stops at a crawl.
• 1:22:10
  It did remind me of the gentleman that jumped the bridge in Detroit last
• 1:22:14
  month as he came off of that ramp.
• 1:22:16
  I think all four tires were blown out and that motor was on the ground.
• 1:22:20
  Send it!
• 1:22:20
  100%.
• 1:22:22
  300 ZX were destroyed in the making of that commercial.
• 1:22:24
  But anyway, not enough.
• 1:22:27
  So another interesting little piece of news for three people that probably care.
• 1:22:32
  The Tesla roadster that's out there in orbit somewhere is
• 1:22:36
  close to Mars and moving on.
• 1:22:38
  No, just kidding.
• 1:22:39
  I don't know who really cares about this.
• 1:22:41
  I guess it's a fun fact.
• 1:22:42
  It's traveled 1.
• 1:22:43
  3 billion.
• 1:22:45
  Miles since it was launched and it's approximately 37 million
• 1:22:49
  miles away from the planet earth.
• 1:22:51
  So it's going to be a very long time before it's ever
• 1:22:54
  back, sort of close to earth.
• 1:22:56
  And even then you won't be able to see it with, you know, high power
• 1:22:59
  telescope or anything like that.
• 1:23:01
  And it did this on a single charge.
• 1:23:03
  Oh, just because you can.
• 1:23:08
  It doesn't mean you should.
• 1:23:10
  I still don't understand the point of the whole thing, but hey,
• 1:23:12
  it's out there being space junk.
• 1:23:14
  So, moving on.
• 1:23:15
  Does the bumper fall off when it collects moisture in space?
• 1:23:19
  Is there moisture in space?
• 1:23:21
  Dun dun dun!
• 1:23:23
  Sticking with the theme, just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
• 1:23:26
  We've got a public service announcement for you and anyone that goes to
• 1:23:30
  a car festival or a car show or a hot rod weekend at the beach.
• 1:23:34
  You know, like H2O and Ocean City.
• 1:23:37
  Don't be like this Dumfries, Virginia driver and shut down the Bay Bridge
• 1:23:41
  so you can do burnouts and donuts and all kinds of illegal activity.
• 1:23:45
  in the middle of the day, you know, for, for the gram, don't do that
• 1:23:50
  crap because you will get caught.
• 1:23:51
  You will get in trouble and you could get seriously hurt if you do it.
• 1:23:54
  So please don't be like this fool.
• 1:23:56
  It's just not worth it.
• 1:23:57
  So you remember last month when we talked about the DIY turbo kit on the Audi RS3?
• 1:24:04
  Do we remember how that ended?
• 1:24:05
  I especially remember the My feet ain't gonna do shit quote.
• 1:24:10
  I think Johnny Cash wrote a song about it, right?
• 1:24:13
  Yeah burning blaze fire Exactly.
• 1:24:17
  So speaking of burning blazes of fire in car shows We had a yet another entry
• 1:24:23
  come across our desk where you get to watch a twin turbo diesel pickup
• 1:24:28
  truck explode on the dyno as it's making 3, 000 horsepower Horsepower.
• 1:24:33
  It is epic.
• 1:24:35
  It is something to behold.
• 1:24:37
  An example of another perfect DIY scenario that ends in a huge flaming dumpster fire.
• 1:24:43
  I mean, it's been a while since I watched that video, but I mean,
• 1:24:46
  that could have been catastrophic.
• 1:24:47
  I mean, parts were flying.
• 1:24:49
  Correct.
• 1:24:50
  Like people could have died.
• 1:24:52
  I mean, that was insane.
• 1:24:53
  It is epic.
• 1:24:54
  So if you are a diesel owner, always remember to watch your EGTs.
• 1:24:59
  Follow up update from the story we had last month about the
• 1:25:02
  stranded Jeep in California.
• 1:25:04
  You know, someone really intelligent at Ford decided to reach out to this Jeep
• 1:25:08
  owner and ask if he needed some help.
• 1:25:09
  Someone at Ford, you know, reached out, sent the guy an email, and
• 1:25:13
  the guy confirmed that he was contacted by Ford, and they were
• 1:25:16
  going to rescue the Jeep for him.
• 1:25:17
  He did not take them up on their offer, and instead his Jeep was recovered.
• 1:25:22
  By a huge group of jeepers and people would pick up trucks and even in
• 1:25:25
  helicopter came out to get in on the fun So ford tried it was a great publicity
• 1:25:30
  stunt had they been able to do it But unfortunately the owner of the jeep
• 1:25:34
  did not take him up on it Well, I heard they he turned him down because they
• 1:25:37
  offered to pull him out with a bronco And he would have been too embarrassed
• 1:25:40
  that allegedly they were talking about pulling him out with a Bronco, but I'm,
• 1:25:45
  I'm sure for probably would have sent some big tractor or something to go
• 1:25:49
  out there and get them or whatever it would have been great for a photo op.
• 1:25:52
  It would have been excellent advertising had they been able to do it, but I
• 1:25:55
  guess they just, it wasn't in the cards.
• 1:25:56
  Regardless, someone give that man or woman at Ford a raise.
• 1:26:00
  Yes.
• 1:26:01
  Agreed.
• 1:26:01
  Brilliant.
• 1:26:02
  Was it good?
• 1:26:03
  Hey, but was it going to be the Sasquatch edition?
• 1:26:05
  That's what I want to know.
• 1:26:06
  So last month we talked about our crazy Northern neighbor who thought it was all
• 1:26:12
  right to, you know, recline the seat.
• 1:26:15
  And your Tesla, stick that sucker in autopilot and just
• 1:26:18
  cruise on down the road.
• 1:26:20
  Well, there was a headline about watching a clip of a Tesla Model 3 failing
• 1:26:24
  an automatic emergency brake test.
• 1:26:26
  That is hilarious.
• 1:26:27
  And so it caught my attention, of course, from our friends at Jalopnik.
• 1:26:30
  And so I clicked into it and it's really.
• 1:26:31
  It's a little bit of clickbait, if you will, cause the whole
• 1:26:34
  self driving automatic braking is not a Tesla unique thing.
• 1:26:39
  It's across a lot of different manufacturers are trying to
• 1:26:41
  roll out this technology.
• 1:26:42
  Tesla really likes to beat their drum on it and claim a little bit
• 1:26:46
  falsely about how autonomous their quote self driving is when the, the
• 1:26:51
  fact of the matter is nobody has.
• 1:26:53
  100 percent autonomous self driving vehicles right now.
• 1:26:56
  The technology is not robust enough yet.
• 1:26:58
  And so obviously all these manufacturers have to do tests and whatnot.
• 1:27:03
  And speaking of robots, they use dummies.
• 1:27:06
  They got rails in the ground and they got a little dummy that like shoots
• 1:27:08
  across and then there's a car coming and the car with these automatic
• 1:27:12
  break features is supposed to stop.
• 1:27:13
  Right.
• 1:27:14
  But no, it doesn't.
• 1:27:14
  I mean, it's funny, poor dummy, you know, obliterates the dummy.
• 1:27:19
  It looked like 10 pin bowling.
• 1:27:20
  I mean, it was like everywhere.
• 1:27:23
  I mean, and, and not to beat on Tesla because there was another clip
• 1:27:27
  or, or screenshot of a Honda and it obliterated the dummy as well.
• 1:27:31
  So, I mean, it's not, again, it's not a Tesla only problem.
• 1:27:34
  It's a technology ready problem.
• 1:27:37
  However, if I had been in the car.
• 1:27:40
  In that same situation, I would have stopped way earlier than what the
• 1:27:44
  automatic braking system did because I have eyes and a brain or, you know,
• 1:27:48
  I don't know, maybe they're just programmed with a smaller tolerance.
• 1:27:52
  I personally wouldn't stop within inches of a human being.
• 1:27:56
  Especially if I can see them, like I would have already
• 1:27:58
  been slowing down and stopped.
• 1:27:59
  If you're paying attention while driving and that's what you should
• 1:28:02
  be doing, you know, there's no reason to panic stop when you see a
• 1:28:05
  pedestrian crossing in front of you.
• 1:28:07
  So I've got a philosophical question for you.
• 1:28:09
  What do you think is easier, an easier problem to solve?
• 1:28:13
  Teaching these cars to stop for these obstructions using the
• 1:28:17
  LIDAR and the radar and whatever.
• 1:28:19
  Or teaching these morons not to walk out into the street in front of a moving car.
• 1:28:24
  Which one do you think is easier?
• 1:28:26
  That is a very difficult question.
• 1:28:28
  I mean, it goes back to the whole joke about Astronauts in space
• 1:28:33
  and writing instruments, right?
• 1:28:34
  We spent a gajillion dollars to design a pen that worked in zero gravity
• 1:28:39
  and the Russians took pencils, right?
• 1:28:41
  It's the same simplicity principle.
• 1:28:43
  So, yeah, I agree.
• 1:28:44
  We need to spend more time teaching people a how to drive.
• 1:28:48
  better and be to be more aware and get off their phones and whatever, as they're
• 1:28:53
  walking around and kids are kids, right?
• 1:28:55
  Kids are hard being a parent.
• 1:28:57
  They're, they're, they're rambunctious.
• 1:28:59
  They are not aware they, they think they're alone in their own little
• 1:29:02
  world, in their own little bubble.
• 1:29:04
  So you have to be extra vigilant and extra careful.
• 1:29:05
  But as adults, you don't know to look both ways.
• 1:29:09
  I don't know.
• 1:29:09
  There's a lot to be said there, right?
• 1:29:11
  You shouldn't be driving.
• 1:29:13
  You should be walking, you mean.
• 1:29:14
  Yeah.
• 1:29:15
  But speaking of people that don't look ahead while they're driving.
• 1:29:18
  In Kentucky, Kentucky man or woman, we don't really know, decides to
• 1:29:23
  try and run over a nine foot tall snowman during a recent snowstorm.
• 1:29:27
  And what do you think happened?
• 1:29:29
  Who won?
• 1:29:30
  Frosty or the driver?
• 1:29:33
  I'm going to tell you Frosty won because Frosty had a secret weapon.
• 1:29:37
  He had wood.
• 1:29:38
  He was built over a tree stump in the middle of this guy's yard.
• 1:29:42
  And I don't know what happened.
• 1:29:44
  No, they never caught the, uh, the person affected by the instant karma.
• 1:29:48
  Um, but apparently this guy did not like this snowman and decided to try to
• 1:29:53
  take it out with the pick them up truck.
• 1:29:55
  And he lost like, did he leave the truck there damaged the truck?
• 1:30:01
  No, the owner of the property.
• 1:30:03
  built the snowman in the morning, I guess, or the night before, and then went back
• 1:30:07
  after work, you know, the next night and there was the tree trunk was exposed.
• 1:30:12
  Frosty was still standing there and there were truck marks or
• 1:30:15
  tire marks leading up to Frosty.
• 1:30:17
  Wow.
• 1:30:18
  So we would be remiss again, not having a Florida man to comment on.
• 1:30:24
  Oh boy.
• 1:30:25
  And of course a headline like Florida man makes scooter with
• 1:30:29
  mop bucket and leaf blower.
• 1:30:35
  I mean, it very well might be clickbait, but you have to click on it.
• 1:30:39
  Right.
• 1:30:40
  And so I did Harley take note.
• 1:30:42
  Okay.
• 1:30:43
  So first of all, I want to say that leaf blower.
• 1:30:47
  is forced induction.
• 1:30:49
  All right.
• 1:30:51
  That is some turbo charged action right there.
• 1:30:54
  Well, I didn't look, is it a Ryobi?
• 1:30:56
  Is it a Ryobi 18 volt?
• 1:30:57
  No, this, this is, this is horrible.
• 1:30:59
  Like video, there's a video to watch.
• 1:31:03
  And I mean, definitely watch the video, but this whole
• 1:31:06
  thing is absurd and it's just.
• 1:31:07
  fake.
• 1:31:08
  I mean, a hundred percent.
• 1:31:09
  What a publicity stunt.
• 1:31:11
  Let's be real.
• 1:31:11
  There's so many things wrong.
• 1:31:13
  Why this isn't going to work.
• 1:31:14
  I mean, the still images are freaking ridiculous if you look at them.
• 1:31:18
  And again, the video, I definitely recommend it, but let's walk through it.
• 1:31:23
  First of all, the video starts and we're talking like the yellow
• 1:31:27
  janitorial mop bucket, right?
• 1:31:29
  We've all seen them on caster wheels.
• 1:31:32
  Okay.
• 1:31:33
  The video starts.
• 1:31:34
  The man takes his mop bucket and he dumps the water out from it.
• 1:31:38
  Then suddenly though, the mop bucket, the caster wheels are gone.
• 1:31:41
  And it's sitting on a skateboard.
• 1:31:43
  Okay.
• 1:31:45
  Next, the magic of Hollywood, but it gets better because next he's holding
• 1:31:49
  the leaf blower, which appears turbo charger, which appears to me to
• 1:31:54
  be a plug in electric type blower.
• 1:31:58
  Okay?
• 1:31:59
  Okay, it wasn't gas powered, it wasn't battery, it was no Ryobi, okay?
• 1:32:04
  He pull starts it, and you have sound effects as if
• 1:32:07
  there's a gas engine running.
• 1:32:09
  N n nothing started when he, whenever he pulled, okay?
• 1:32:13
  Now, the umbrella.
• 1:32:15
  He's holding an umbrella out.
• 1:32:17
  In front of him.
• 1:32:18
  Unless this is a NASA developed umbrella.
• 1:32:21
  Have y'all ever used an umbrella in the wind?
• 1:32:24
  It takes approximately 2.
• 1:32:25
  0 seconds for it to flip the other way when there's a little bit of wind.
• 1:32:31
  So how the hell is he, if the leaf blower was even running,
• 1:32:35
  how is the umbrella even stable?
• 1:32:37
  I call bullshit.
• 1:32:39
  I think we found a new form of racing here.
• 1:32:42
  And, and maybe, but, and then this just.
• 1:32:46
  Cheap, like, Walmart brand looking electric plug in blower that's
• 1:32:51
  operating off magic right now, because it's not plugged into anything.
• 1:32:56
  How the hell do you expect it to propel a 200 pound some odd man or something
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  across The road when you can barely sometimes push grass clippings in your
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  yard with the leaf blower, but yet he propelled himself with the leaf blower
• 1:33:11
  that's not plugged in with the umbrella.
• 1:33:13
  Florida, you don't need to make the stuff up.
• 1:33:15
  It dirty comes naturally . But thank you nonetheless.
• 1:33:19
  I mean, it was, it's amusing.
• 1:33:20
  I mean, watch it.
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  I mean, I'm dying.
• 1:33:22
  Every time I look at this.
• 1:33:24
  It just gets worse and worse and worse.
• 1:33:28
  Stop poking holes.
• 1:33:30
  I mean, the still pictures, you're like, okay.
• 1:33:32
  And then you watch the little, the video and you're like, yeah, okay.
• 1:33:35
  I mean, great job.
• 1:33:37
  Fun video.
• 1:33:38
  I'm sure people were staring at you.
• 1:33:40
  Florida man does Florida man things.
• 1:33:42
  Exactly.
• 1:33:43
  Well, let's talk about Michigan men because they're a special breed, too.
• 1:33:47
  I've got to say move over Toyota Hilux because the terrorists of the
• 1:33:51
  world have a new preferred vehicle.
• 1:33:54
  It is the PT Cruiser.
• 1:33:56
  There's a video out there posted on Jalopnik on October 19th of a
• 1:34:00
  group of terrorists in Michigan.
• 1:34:02
  They're called the Wolverine Watchmen and they were Developing a plan to
• 1:34:07
  kidnap the governor of Michigan, I guess they have differing political views
• 1:34:12
  and they thought the best way to handle it was instead of getting out there
• 1:34:14
  and vote, they would get out there and kidnap and their vehicle of choice.
• 1:34:18
  Was a PT cruiser.
• 1:34:20
  The video is actually quite interesting.
• 1:34:22
  These men are getting out, I guess they're doing some sort of military
• 1:34:25
  drill where they drive up and they stop the BT cruiser, they get out
• 1:34:29
  of all four doors and they just start shooting into somewhere.
• 1:34:32
  I don't know where they're just wasting ammo for the sake of wasting ammo,
• 1:34:35
  but yeah, so Toyota Hilux is no longer the preferred vehicle of terrorists.
• 1:34:39
  It's the PT cruiser.
• 1:34:42
  Wonder if that Kentucky man had a differing political view with Snowman.
• 1:34:46
  Let's go back down South to Florida for a hot second, Florida, man,
• 1:34:50
  and woman quote, obviously racing.
• 1:34:53
  So it was reported that two people were traveling at high rates
• 1:34:57
  of speed in and out of traffic and trying to pass each other.
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  Now I'm going to ask gentlemen, let's have some guesses here.
• 1:35:03
  No, we don't know what the woman was driving or the man was driving,
• 1:35:06
  but what two cars do you think?
• 1:35:09
  We're involved in this obviously racing scenario.
• 1:35:13
  Oh, one of them has to be a 1999 Dodge Caravan.
• 1:35:20
  I am thinking a Pontiac Sunfire with one headlight and a dent in the passenger
• 1:35:26
  door and then a Dodge Intrepid.
• 1:35:30
  No, no, it's going to be, it's going to be a, it's going to be
• 1:35:34
  a late 90s, early 2000s Corolla.
• 1:35:37
  Automatic.
• 1:35:38
  And I'm thinking they're obviously racing on the highway and an HHR,
• 1:35:45
  just because I want it to be an HHR.
• 1:35:47
  I actually think it's a Cadillac Cimarron and a Cadillac Cimarron.
• 1:35:55
  You found the last two in existence.
• 1:35:58
  Back racer Cimarron.
• 1:35:59
  Now, do you think that Cimarron can get over a hundred miles an hour?
• 1:36:02
  Doubtful.
• 1:36:03
  A hundred kilometers per hour.
• 1:36:06
  So they were traveling in speeds of excess of a hundred miles an hour.
• 1:36:10
  Apparently, I think you will be surprised with the two cars based on
• 1:36:13
  your guesses that were dead wrong.
• 1:36:16
  It was in fact, a Yugo, a 1991 Eagle Talon.
• 1:36:24
  What?
• 1:36:25
  At 108 miles an hour and a 2013 Subaru Impreza at 117 miles an hour.
• 1:36:33
  You know what?
• 1:36:34
  Mad props to the Eagle Talon.
• 1:36:36
  That's all I'm gonna say.
• 1:36:38
  For still running.
• 1:36:42
  That's the true gem of this story was the Eagle Talon.
• 1:36:45
  100 percent because the 117 is not impressive with the Subaru.
• 1:36:49
  That's actually pretty sad.
• 1:36:50
  But that Eagle, that's good stuff right there.
• 1:36:53
  Especially for early 90s.
• 1:36:54
  Which person was driving which?
• 1:36:56
  We don't know, they didn't say.
• 1:36:57
  I think the woman was driving the Talon.
• 1:36:59
  I'm with you on that.
• 1:37:01
  I don't know why, but I am.
• 1:37:04
  So, so we'll round out the last two with a little bit lighter,
• 1:37:08
  less serious and fun things.
• 1:37:10
  So I learned very recently that apparently Shaq, Mr.
• 1:37:14
  Shaquille O'Neal, is going to be executive producer and star in an animated
• 1:37:21
  comedy for kids called Shaq's Garage.
• 1:37:24
  So I really didn't know that apparently Shaq must be a bit of a car enthusiast.
• 1:37:29
  So, so interesting to him.
• 1:37:31
  The show follows the secret adventures of the NBA legends collection of
• 1:37:35
  animated cars and trucks, all of which have unique abilities from
• 1:37:39
  super spying to language, to music.
• 1:37:41
  The lead vehicle is named Big Diesel and will be voiced by Shaq.
• 1:37:46
  Through comedy and adventure, the show will showcase strong and
• 1:37:49
  diverse characters as positive role models with purposeful storytelling.
• 1:37:53
  This is going to be a special show that touches every button, music,
• 1:37:57
  adventure, humor, and positive, prideful messaging for kids.
• 1:38:01
  That's kind of nice.
• 1:38:02
  And from the animation, it actually looks very much like Cars, the cartoon movie.
• 1:38:06
  So, I mean, it's nice to, to see something that it's fun and positive messaging in
• 1:38:11
  the world, especially for little kids.
• 1:38:12
  I hope he's successful with that endeavor.
• 1:38:14
  So to Shaq's credit, I actually wrote about him in an article right after,
• 1:38:20
  uh, season two of Car Masters came out, the Rust to Riches, uh, series.
• 1:38:25
  And they talked about a kit car known as the Vader, which
• 1:38:29
  is built on a G35 Infinity.
• 1:38:32
  Shaq happens to own one of those.
• 1:38:34
  So, and I actually have a picture of him in his Vader in that article.
• 1:38:38
  So I think he is a bit of a car guy.
• 1:38:40
  Obviously that's a specialty car, it's obviously a kit car, but
• 1:38:44
  I would be very curious to know what else is in Shaq's garage.
• 1:38:47
  So kind of cool to know that he is a bit of a petrolhead.
• 1:38:50
  Did they say where this show is going to be, I guess, broadcast?
• 1:38:54
  Cartoon channel.
• 1:38:56
  Cartoon with a K.
• 1:38:57
  I mean, I'd check it out.
• 1:38:58
  It sounds fun to me.
• 1:38:59
  But let's talk about real fun because we are getting
• 1:39:02
  Dangerously close to Halloween.
• 1:39:04
  Yes, we are.
• 1:39:04
  We are at time of this recording fast approaching the witching hour,
• 1:39:09
  otherwise known as Halloween in 2020 has been quite the year so far.
• 1:39:13
  And unfortunately I think threatens typical Halloween trick or treating and
• 1:39:17
  other activities all across the country.
• 1:39:19
  If you recall, a few months ago, we reported on a drive through Halloween
• 1:39:23
  experience that was coming to.
• 1:39:26
  Florida.
• 1:39:27
  Oh yeah.
• 1:39:27
  And folks, it is here and it's still running through November 7th.
• 1:39:33
  So if you find yourself in or are from the Orlando area, you know, go check this out.
• 1:39:38
  It seems like it's probably going to be a pretty cool thing.
• 1:39:41
  Just wanna give a shout out to what seems like a really cool idea, which
• 1:39:43
  I could go on something like this.
• 1:39:45
  Um, I love haunted houses and Halloween and all that looks pretty cool.
• 1:39:49
  That's it.
• 1:39:50
  I will say, looking back, we did make fun of it a little bit, but.
• 1:39:53
  Putting on our COVID goggles, this drive thru trick or treat Halloween
• 1:39:58
  experience makes a lot of sense.
• 1:40:00
  And I will say, tune in to our November drive through for Florida
• 1:40:05
  man runs over vampire and werewolf.
• 1:40:10
  I was curious.
• 1:40:11
  I did go on their website, the haunted road.
• 1:40:13
  com and, and they list kind of out all their safety features
• 1:40:16
  and this than the other.
• 1:40:17
  And so basically.
• 1:40:18
  I think they've thought of that.
• 1:40:20
  So they said that as you're driving the car through this attraction, nobody
• 1:40:24
  is going to be interacting with you.
• 1:40:26
  So it's kind of like a point A to B to C to D kind of thing.
• 1:40:28
  And then you kind of drive up to the scene or the scenario or whatever.
• 1:40:33
  And then that's where the interaction happens in your car to put your car
• 1:40:36
  in park and this, that, and the other.
• 1:40:37
  And then while you're moving from one checkpoint or scene to the next,
• 1:40:42
  the speed limit is five miles an hour and all this stuff, and all
• 1:40:44
  the performers are wearing masks and complying with COVID recommendations
• 1:40:49
  and same thing if you're in your car and your windows are up, you're fine.
• 1:40:52
  If you have your windows down, they ask that you do also please
• 1:40:54
  wear masks, et cetera, et cetera.
• 1:40:56
  So apparently there's also a super scary experience for like certain age group
• 1:41:02
  or whatever that costs like way extra.
• 1:41:04
  So I'm not sure what you're getting out of that, but it's,
• 1:41:06
  it's, it's called carjacking.
• 1:41:08
  That's what I know.
• 1:41:10
  It's like an extra 80 bucks or something to go on like the
• 1:41:13
  ultimate experience or something.
• 1:41:15
  I'm like, Whoa, it's to pay the tow truck driver.
• 1:41:18
  So you can get it at a Hawk later.
• 1:41:20
  Yeah.
• 1:41:21
  I don't know.
• 1:41:22
  I want to throw out a challenge to any of our listeners who may be in that
• 1:41:25
  area who decide to go to this, please put a GoPro on the top of your car.
• 1:41:28
  We would love to see footage from it.
• 1:41:30
  100%.
• 1:41:31
  Well, folks, it's time to wrap things up with our final segment, the secret sauce.
• 1:41:36
  We rally together our GTM specific news.
• 1:41:40
  So to recap the month of podcast episodes, if you only tune in
• 1:41:43
  for the drive through, I think we set off the month pretty strong.
• 1:41:46
  We had our special guest, Mark Francis on break fix to talk about safety as a city.
• 1:41:52
  System, and he represents one of the largest motorsport safety
• 1:41:56
  distributors in the United States.
• 1:41:58
  That's OG racing and good news there.
• 1:42:01
  There's a lot of really awesome closeout deals right now on, especially
• 1:42:05
  on 2015 helmets and other goodies.
• 1:42:07
  So if you're looking to save a buck, please be sure to
• 1:42:10
  check out www dot OG racing.
• 1:42:12
  com.
• 1:42:13
  In addition to that, we played a round of name that engine or name that tune.
• 1:42:18
  We did a little lighter episode, a game show episode.
• 1:42:21
  where we pitted our resident Viking, Brad, our co host here tonight, uh,
• 1:42:27
  against mountain man, Dan, in a name that tune like game show where we
• 1:42:31
  played, uh, sound clips and had them guess for points, you know, what the
• 1:42:35
  vehicle was and what engine it was.
• 1:42:37
  They did have some lifelines.
• 1:42:38
  It was a very entertaining episode.
• 1:42:40
  So if you missed that, be sure to check it out.
• 1:42:43
  After that, we had a sit down with Garrett Walls from Chaz's used auto parts.
• 1:42:47
  We talked a little bit about the history of Chaz's, but we got deep and dirty
• 1:42:52
  in the world of dirt track racing.
• 1:42:55
  So if you're into that.
• 1:42:56
  Please be sure to check that out.
• 1:42:57
  In addition, we had a special bonus episode, which was a weekend recap
• 1:43:01
  episode that Brad and I did with John Richter regarding the fall finale
• 1:43:06
  at Virginia international raceway.
• 1:43:09
  And by the time you guys hear this episode, there will be a special pit
• 1:43:12
  stop episode, which is a sub series within break fix, where we do some
• 1:43:17
  off the cuff interviews with fans.
• 1:43:18
  folks specifically for John, uh, as he is transferring from the DMV down to Texas to
• 1:43:25
  join Tanya in the Southern States region.
• 1:43:27
  And, uh, we do a special recap episode with him about his time here in the DMV.
• 1:43:32
  And that'll be available on October 30th through Patreon.
• 1:43:36
  And we will re air on our normal stream sometime in January of 21.
• 1:43:42
  In addition to that, wrapping up the month of October, we had the Dr.
• 1:43:46
  Anthony DeCesaro and Race Liberante from Race Factory USA on the show to talk about
• 1:43:53
  how they're changing the world of karting.
• 1:43:55
  So five really strong episodes there for you guys to check out.
• 1:43:59
  And obviously that bonus Pit Stop episode with John Richter.
• 1:44:02
  And we have more really cool things coming for the month of November.
• 1:44:06
  So stay tuned for updates every Tuesday on our regular stream.
• 1:44:10
  In addition to that, I think we were happy to announce some new partnerships.
• 1:44:14
  Who have we got on board now, Brad?
• 1:44:16
  We have the IMRRC, or the International Motor Racing Research
• 1:44:21
  Center, and Garage Riot, who we hope to have on the show soon.
• 1:44:24
  In addition to that, one of our members, Jordan Furman, is putting
• 1:44:27
  together his capstone project.
• 1:44:30
  He is a soon to be filmmaker director, and it's a comedy based
• 1:44:36
  upon a car that is near and dear to Tanya and I, an 83 Audi coupe.
• 1:44:42
  It's supposed to be set in the nineties.
• 1:44:44
  It's a period comedy, and it's about an unlikely friendship, a replacement
• 1:44:48
  battery and sketchy street vendors.
• 1:44:51
  And so we're going to have Jordan on the show to talk about that
• 1:44:53
  a little bit more in the future.
• 1:44:55
  But right now he's asking for support.
• 1:44:57
  He's looking for funding, you know, Putting together a movie as his, you
• 1:45:01
  know, final, let's call it his final exam for school is a costly endeavor.
• 1:45:06
  So if you're interested in helping him out, we've posted the link in our
• 1:45:09
  show notes so you can go and support him through Indiegogo so that he
• 1:45:14
  can get this film off the ground and maybe finally graduate college, right?
• 1:45:17
  Outside of that, I think we have some, a couple of shout outs left.
• 1:45:21
  Uh, we'd like to thank Dr.
• 1:45:23
  T and Race Liberante from Race Factory USA.
• 1:45:26
  We'd like to thank Dan Rao for coming on the show.
• 1:45:28
  He's going to be on in November to talk about truck night in America.
• 1:45:32
  Uh, we'd like to thank Ryan Staub from Lockton Motorsports.
• 1:45:35
  And we have a couple new Patreons for October.
• 1:45:38
  First off, we have Leonardo Giambi.
• 1:45:40
  Lenny is an avid listener.
• 1:45:42
  He happens to be a relative, and we thank him for his support.
• 1:45:46
  And we look forward to more suggestions and feedback from Lenny as we continue
• 1:45:51
  to, you know, build out the show.
• 1:45:52
  In addition to that, we'd like to thank Andrew Bang for also
• 1:45:55
  signing up to be a Patreon.
• 1:45:56
  And holding on to that, 302 boss Mustang for me for an extra week.
• 1:46:03
  And of course we would love to thank our co host and the person who
• 1:46:07
  keeps the drive through going Tanya.
• 1:46:10
  Thank you.
• 1:46:11
  And I have a shout out or two.
• 1:46:13
  There's a certain host who I believe has a birthday this week.
• 1:46:18
  So.
• 1:46:21
  And also, member zero of GTM has a birthday this week, so I hope he's up
• 1:46:26
  there running some laps with Senna.
• 1:46:28
  That is for sure.
• 1:46:29
  And if you don't know who we're talking about, visit our website and search
• 1:46:33
  member zero to get that backstory on it.
• 1:46:35
  And it's part of the GTM origin story as well.
• 1:46:38
  But yes, uh, we can't sing happy birthday to Brad over the air because
• 1:46:42
  apparently royalties and copyrights, etc.
• 1:46:45
  So, uh, If you've ever seen, uh, several episodes of sunny in Philadelphia,
• 1:46:48
  we're not allowed to do that here.
• 1:46:50
  So yeah, right.
• 1:46:53
  But we will, we will wish you the best of happy birthdays and congratulations on
• 1:46:58
  completing yet another lap around the sun.
• 1:47:01
  Well, thank you.
• 1:47:02
  Thank you.
• 1:47:03
  All right.
• 1:47:03
  And with that, I think it's time to end.
• 1:47:05
  I agree.
• 1:47:06
  Let's let's end this, please.
• 1:47:07
  Hi,
• 1:47:18
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• 1:47:22
  There's some idiot in a Volvo, with his brights on behind me.
• 1:47:27
  I lean out the window and scream, hey, whatcha tryna do, blind me?
• 1:47:31
  My wife says maybe we should
• 1:47:38
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