Latest / Zone2Speak Podcast / Via Race, Chapter II: The Grand Departure
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- 0:00Welcome to Zone to Speak, reporting from the road at the Via Race,
- 0:054,000 kilometers of pure ultra-cycling from Italy to the Netherlands.
- 0:10I'm Juliana, traveling with the race and bringing you daily highlights,
- 0:15writer's stories, and the moments that define the ride. Let's dive in.
- 0:20You are listening to Zone to Speak, where endurance, mindset,
- 0:24and adventure meet on the road.
- 0:26I'm your host, Juliana, and for the next few weeks, I'm traveling with one of
- 0:31the most ambitious ultra-cycling events in Europe, the Via Race.
- 0:35From the southern tip of Italy to the north of the Netherlands,
- 0:40over 4,000 kilometers of self-supported riding, I will be bringing you daily
- 0:46stories straight from the course.
- 0:48Expect race highlights, conversations with riders, behind-the-scenes moments
- 0:54with the media crew, dot-watcher drama, and the raw reality of what it means
- 1:00to ride this far, this long, and this deep.
- 1:03Whether you are tuning in from a training ride or dot-watching from home,
- 1:08welcome to Zone to Speak on the road with Via Race.
- 1:12Via is no ordinary race. It's a self-supported ultra-distance that blends serious
- 1:17athleticism with serious storytelling.
- 1:20The route? It's not just about the roads. It's about recreating history.
- 1:26Last year, in Chapter 1, writers followed the path of Hannibal,
- 1:31yes, the Carthaginian general, who marched across the Alps with elephants to take on Rome.
- 1:40That journey ended in Giovinasso, a beautiful coastal town in the southern Italy.
- 1:46And this year, that 2024 finish line becomes the 2025 start line.
- 1:53Now, we are following the footsteps of Germanicus,
- 1:58a Roman general who led brutal campaigns into what is now Germany,
- 2:03chasing redemption for the Roman Empire after a humiliating defeat.
- 2:09The guy wasn't exactly known for his kindness, but his journey covered staggering ground.
- 2:15And that's exactly what VIA Chapter 2 aims to capture. Not war,
- 2:19just the epicness of the route.
- 2:22Roughly 4,000 kilometers and 40,000 meters of climbing, give or take a few blisters and breakdowns.
- 2:30Trust me, it's not for the faint at heart.
- 2:34Now, you might look at Google Maps and think, wait, 4,000 kilometers?
- 2:39That should be less than 2,000. True.
- 2:42But this isn't a straight shot.
- 2:45Riders must pass through a series of mandatory GPS checkpoints.
- 2:49Some are gates. Others are refuges.
- 2:52Gates are simple. Ride past, get pinned. Refuges?
- 2:57That's where riders can catch their breath, refill bottles, maybe chat with
- 3:02other weary souls before pushing on. The twist?
- 3:06The routing isn't totally free. The placement of these gates forces riders into
- 3:11some pretty gnarly climbs and, let's just say, creative detours.
- 3:16We are talking alpines, alps, black forests.
- 3:21It's going to be stunning and punishing.
- 3:26And who is taking this challenge on? This year, we have got over 120 riders
- 3:33signed up, a huge jump from last year.
- 3:36This includes 11 women, 5 pairs, and some incredibly inspiring participants,
- 3:43like paracyclist Wayne Harrod, who is returning after heat issues forced him
- 3:49to scratch last year, and Mel Nichols, a Paralympian, riding a handbike across the entire course.
- 3:57Just let that sink in. And while we never really know how a neutral will unfold,
- 4:05tired legs, route gambles, mechanicals, meltdowns are all part of the game.
- 4:10There are definitely a few dots to keep an eye on.
- 4:14This dot watcher gold comes from courtesy of the brilliant Bartek Piazzi,
- 4:20our favorite long-form tracker and storyteller.
- 4:24In the men's category, Adam Biliak, last year's champion and hands down the rider to beat.
- 4:32He crushed chapter one with a 16-hour lead. But don't count your eagles before they fly.
- 4:38This year, Bruno Witt has proven he's got the legs and the mind,
- 4:43outsmarting Adam at the race through Poland with flawless execution.
- 4:48Word is, Bruno thrives in cooler temps, so the weather might tip the scales.
- 4:54Also in the mix, Lucas Becker, second last year and always near the top.
- 5:00Christian Jabubek, who pulled off an audacious coastal move to snag third last year.
- 5:06He's not at peak form right now, but never count out a wild card.
- 5:11And Marc Buschel, a strong Swiss rider who might be looking for redemption after
- 5:17routing mishaps last year. And don't forget, he's got a bit of a friendly rivalry going with Bruno.
- 5:26On the women's side, it's shaping up to be an exciting battle.
- 5:31Joanna Ruminska-Pieti is back to defend her crown after a decisive win last
- 5:39year, though she had a near miss with a gate that could have cost her everything.
- 5:46Gossia Wehrlich, who just came
- 5:49second overall at the Indian Pacific Wheel Race, is an interesting one.
- 5:54She's done well in shorter events like Dead End Zendoche.
- 5:59Her background is long non-race rides might make her want to watch.
- 6:05And Fiona Shorten, who scratched last year but came back strong to win the Amherst
- 6:13Forest, Sourland Amherst Forest epic.
- 6:18Redemption? We love to see it. Via isn't just a race.
- 6:22It's a mirror of resilience, grit, and spirit.
- 6:26It's a platform for inclusion and for storytelling, which is where I come in.
- 6:32Each day here on Zone to Speak, I will be bringing you updates from the field,
- 6:39writer stories, route drama, surprise from the dot watching universe,
- 6:43and conversations that review what it really takes to keep paddling day after day across a continent.
- 6:51So, buckle up. It's going to be long, it's going to be tough,
- 6:55but it's going to be worth it. Let's ride!
- 6:59Now that I have set the stage, the route, the history, the dots to watch,
- 7:04let's head to the heart of it all, the writers themselves.
- 7:07I spent time at the registration in Giovinasso, catching up with writers as
- 7:13they checked in, loaded up, and took that deep breath before the storm.
- 7:17There is a mix of nerves, stoke, and quiet determination in the air.
- 7:22And every person here is carrying their own story to the star line.
- 7:26You will hear from seasoned contenders, rookies, and paracyclists defying limits.
- 7:33Some are chasing the podium, others are chasing peace, and all of them,
- 7:39Everyone is chasing something that exists just beyond the horizon.
- 7:44Here's what they had to say in their own words.
- 7:49All right, so what's your name? Enrico Hadix. And tell me, what are you riding here at VIA?
- 7:57I'm riding a recumbent bike, a Velo Mobile. How does that work?
- 8:03You just sit in there and you paddle.
- 8:07So yeah it's more like a laid-back bike so completely covered it's a lot better
- 8:14in wind and you have usually more speed except going uphill so that's kind of a challenge in this race,
- 8:22how did you create your route did you try to avoid hills as much as possible
- 8:27because of the velo mobile yeah of course i go a lot more kilometers than all
- 8:33the other participants i guess and try to avoid every hill I can avoid.
- 8:38But most of the track points are completely on top of the hill,
- 8:41so sometimes I have to go up there.
- 8:44And how do you plan to go up the hills?
- 8:48It's very interesting. I try to walk. I'm going to pull the Willemobile up there. Pull, not push.
- 8:56Is there a harness or something that you attach or just by hand?
- 9:00No, I put a kind of rag on me and then I pull it up.
- 9:05Wow, that's a lot of manpower. That's amazing.
- 9:09Yeah, like a horse.
- 9:12You said like a horse. And when you are inside, you are sitting,
- 9:17obviously, right? Yeah.
- 9:19And how do you eat and drink in there? Just like you're on a bike,
- 9:23just take one hand off? Or can you be hands-free?
- 9:27How does it work? It depends on the speed. I can do hands-free.
- 9:30It's pretty straight, so I don't have to steer all the time.
- 9:34But if it's going too fast, I need to have a hand on the brakes and on the steering wheel.
- 9:40Really cool. And how fast does this go on flats?
- 9:44And does it also, of course, no, of course, because I don't know,
- 9:47but it depends on the power you put on your legs as well. But how fast usually goes?
- 9:54Usually I'm depends like
- 9:57you can do if it's really flat and good roads you
- 10:00can around 50 kilometers per hour with around 100 120 watts amazing and have
- 10:07you done any of this type of events before with it I've done a couple of thousand
- 10:14kilometers around stuff but not that long,
- 10:18A couple of thousand kilometers is still a lot, so you do have the experience.
- 10:21You kind of know what to expect.
- 10:23Yeah, I did the first VIA last year with the upright bike, so I know what distance it is, yeah.
- 10:29Okay, so you were here last year. How was that? Oh, pretty hot.
- 10:35Yeah, I got a kind of heat stroke the first three days after puking and not
- 10:39sleeping and not being able to eat or drink.
- 10:42Then I kind of recovered and I got in in the
- 10:45into this place and on
- 10:48time so oh that's great kind of
- 10:51worked out yeah well sorry you got sick but glad you worked out in the end well
- 10:56it's nine or ten o'clock not even and it's already so hot but the forecast says
- 11:03that as we travel north we might have some rain and some cooler weather and how does the,
- 11:11the velo mobile does on the rain
- 11:14well i'm mostly covered
- 11:17except that i'm not here with the hood because it's
- 11:19too hot with the hood and therefore i'm gonna
- 11:22get some rain as well if it rains too long i
- 11:25had it coming here because i drove here by the velo mobile so
- 11:29i had rain for 12 hours straight then it
- 11:32kind of feels really wet in there does it
- 11:36accumulate water or is there like a sorry so many stupid
- 11:39silly questions or does it drain drains the
- 11:42source in there and the water just comes out again but all the stuff inside
- 11:46gets soaked so including me yeah where did you ride from from munich okay nice
- 11:54well best of luck i'm really really excited to follow you and see you at the
- 11:59finish line Thank you very much.
- 12:02What's your name? I'm Phil. Hi, Phil. Where are you from? I'm from Germany.
- 12:06And how old are you? I'm 43 years old. All right.
- 12:09And is this your first ultra race or you have some experience?
- 12:13It's actually the second one. I still don't have that much experience.
- 12:16I did three peaks bike race from Vienna to Nice last year.
- 12:21And I was really excited about that. But second day, I was like,
- 12:24why the hell am I doing that?
- 12:26But by the time I finished, I was pretty sure I'm going to do another ultra race.
- 12:32And yeah, I just came across VR Race and the routing was kind of nice and the
- 12:38team looked professional and well organized. So I signed up for VR Race.
- 12:42Awesome. Yeah, it's an amazing team. I love what they are doing.
- 12:45And it's a tough one for being your second ultra race.
- 12:50I think it has some aspects that a lot of people are afraid,
- 12:54which I am, of making my own route.
- 12:56How are you navigating that? Well, I spent a lot of time in front of the computer,
- 13:01did the research on different tools like commode, right with GPS and had a look
- 13:06at all the maps, Google Maps, Street View.
- 13:10And actually, it was kind of fun to do all the planning. So I'm really excited on how it ends up.
- 13:16But to be honest, from my experience from last year, I mean,
- 13:19last year, I didn't spend too much time on the route planning.
- 13:24But at the end of the day, things change. things
- 13:27change quickly so i might just do
- 13:31something spontaneously so i'm i'm i'm pretty
- 13:33confident i did good route planning this year but you never know that's actually
- 13:39a good point that you can make a route but if something happens or you change
- 13:44your mind you can always reroute and do something different and spontaneous
- 13:47definitely that's nice and that's that's part of the game and that makes it
- 13:52interesting and it's fun.
- 13:54And yeah, for me, it's just like playing a board game and you're just a small player.
- 13:59Like the map of Europe is just like a game for me.
- 14:03And do you have any goals? Are you enjoying, you don't care where you are,
- 14:08middle of the pack, back of the pack, front of the pack, or you have like a
- 14:12mission of, I want to do this in the next days?
- 14:15As I'm not that experienced and I just need to learn a lot more,
- 14:20how your body is dealing with all those issues you get along with during the race.
- 14:27I don't have too much expectation, but after 15 days, nobody is going to wait
- 14:33for you at the finish line. I mean, we have as much time as we want.
- 14:36We can finish within one month, but I would really like to finish within 15
- 14:41days to be part of the finishing party.
- 14:44Yeah, that would be fun to be at the finish party. If I do this,
- 14:47I'll probably take a month or more.
- 14:50Well, may the weather be in your favor and that, you know, do really well and have a wonderful time.
- 14:57And I'm going to be looking forward to seeing you at the finisher party.
- 15:01Great. Thank you very much.
- 15:02All right. What's your name? Hi, my name is Leona. Leona, I hear you are a rookie at the race.
- 15:10What is your experience and why via race? You mean my experience with the other ultras?
- 15:17Yes. Oh, yes. I've done a few ultras before, like Bright Midnight and Alps the Vite.
- 15:22And I'm also doing a lot of long distance stuff just on my own,
- 15:25like the European Divide Trail three years ago. So, yes, that was my biggest
- 15:30adventure so far without being
- 15:32in a race, but just being on my own and off-road crossing Europe. Yeah.
- 15:37Amazing. A lot of experience. And you have experience doing your route before
- 15:42since you've been crossing Europe as well?
- 15:44Yes. The route was fixed on the European Divide Trail and it was like 70% off-road.
- 15:51So, yes, it was maybe a bit more tricky like this one on the road.
- 15:57But yeah, we'll see how good I planned the road now.
- 16:01And how does it feel to be one of the few women here at the start line?
- 16:06It feels really good to be one of them.
- 16:09I really would wish for more women on the start line. Sadly,
- 16:13yeah, we are just a few here.
- 16:15But I really want to inspire other women to do the same like me and to be just
- 16:20brave enough to try and to go for an adventure. and push maybe some limits and
- 16:27to keep on growing for themselves.
- 16:30Beautifully said yeah i couldn't agree more i hope
- 16:33to inspire myself i have done a few ultras but
- 16:36nothing above a thousand kilometers and four thousand sounds
- 16:40a little bit scary i know people have a lot of time to finish you don't have
- 16:44to be at the finisher party you can continue and finish later but but what is
- 16:49your goal for this race do you have a set timeline to finish i have two weeks of holidays,
- 16:58so I have to finish in two weeks.
- 17:00If I would be a bit more quicker, I would be really, really happy.
- 17:04I just want to see how far I come throughout the day and just trying to keep
- 17:11on pedaling as much as I can and just enjoying the race.
- 17:16And any strategy on stops and sleep?
- 17:21How much you plan to stop and how much you plan to sleep? Some people like to
- 17:26be super efficient and have more time to sleep. Some people want to stop,
- 17:30take pictures and enjoy and maybe sleep less.
- 17:34Or some people actually just do all the above, right? They want to be super
- 17:39efficient, sleep as least as they can.
- 17:41Yes. So I will try to go really efficient this time, but I will just try to
- 17:47listen to my body and stop whenever I can.
- 17:50And especially in the heat, I really know I have to hydrate much more to really
- 17:55stay consistent throughout the long distance.
- 17:58I think I will at least sleep for two or four hours because I really know my
- 18:04body can handle this sleeping time very well.
- 18:07And then I just try to keep the stopping time as little as possible.
- 18:14Wow. Two, three hours for two weeks. I will try.
- 18:19That's the plan, but we can change the plan. Absolutely. That's the beauty of
- 18:23this race. You can even change your route if you want to, right? Yes, yes, I can.
- 18:29And how do you do with the heat? Is this a big challenge for you?
- 18:32Do you rather cold weather or is this a strength?
- 18:35Not my strength, but I think I'm pretty adapted to it.
- 18:39I was for the winter months until June. I was at Mallorca.
- 18:43So yeah i try to adapt to
- 18:46the heat but i'm more the nordic person i'm better
- 18:50with a bit more rain or cold but yeah i
- 18:53just take everything as i as i can where are
- 18:56you from germany ah okay yeah yeah well
- 18:59i'm glad you had some time to work on the
- 19:02heat adaptation yeah i wish you all the
- 19:05best i am very excited to follow the women obviously
- 19:08being one and wish you all the best yes
- 19:11thank you all right what's
- 19:14your name my name is Cesare from Bologna Ivalin
- 19:17all right I came to talk to you because I see you have a very interesting setup
- 19:21you are riding 4,000 kilometers on a fixed gear it's not a fixed gear it's just
- 19:27a single speed and the difference between a fixed gear and the single speed
- 19:31that is with a single speed you have the freewheel so you can coast yeah if you like.
- 19:37Fixed gear is when everything is fixed.
- 19:39No freewheel and you pedal up and down.
- 19:42I also used a fixed gear bicycle for an example for the transcontinental race in 2017.
- 19:51I used a fixed gear bike and it worked. It worked okay.
- 19:55And now I'm getting lazy. So single speed will be enough and enough challenging for me.
- 20:01Absolutely. How are you planning to go over the climbs? How did you make the
- 20:07route? Are you trying to avoid a lot of climb?
- 20:09I tried my best to avoid the climbs. Only?
- 20:13Every time I achieve this goal,
- 20:16but if something goes wrong and I need to jump off the bike and walk.
- 20:21As an example, last year I did the VRing and we had the Nibolet checkpoint.
- 20:28And so I worked for 40 kilometers on cycling shoes and I needed 10 hours, 10 hours for that time.
- 20:36And after that, it was all the same to the Vinaxel almost.
- 20:40Wow. Well, 40 kilometers, it's pretty much a marathon.
- 20:44So you walked a marathon in 10 hours. Actually, that's pretty good timing,
- 20:48given you have cycling shoes and a bike.
- 20:50It was easy because there was a speedometer on my bicycle.
- 20:54So I just had to stay on four kilometers per hour.
- 20:57And in 10 hours, it was at the top.
- 21:01So you are a VIA race veteran and you have a lot of experience.
- 21:05You mentioned you've done TCR. What are you looking forward the most on this year's race?
- 21:10I will try to get to the finish line in one piece and to enjoy this time by
- 21:17myself and also with my friends and the invisible peloton which will share my days, actually.
- 21:25I'm never alone now. I'm in this race. I know that all the other people are
- 21:30in the same race, in the same pain, in the same heat.
- 21:32And so I'm with all of them.
- 21:35And it's being together, riding our bikes by ourselves.
- 21:40Yeah, that's a good mindset to have. You know there's always someone ahead or
- 21:43behind and everybody's going through the same experience. Exactly.
- 21:47And how about sleep? Are you doing hotels or are you camping?
- 21:51I use my hammock and my sleeping kit. And I prefer hammocks to mattresses,
- 21:58air mattresses, because they are unreliable.
- 22:00And of my height, they are pretty heavy.
- 22:03And so hammock is perfect for me. I just find two poles, two threes,
- 22:07whatever I can fit my hemophone to, and it works.
- 22:13Wow. Okay. So I came to talk to you because of the Seville Speed bike,
- 22:18and now you also sleep on a hammock. Yeah. Never seen this before.
- 22:22Incredible. Is it easy to find two poles to... Whatever fits,
- 22:27it fits between two poles that are at least three meters of distance,
- 22:32one to the other, to six meters.
- 22:34From 3 meters to 6 meters so we can find many places in this park it's very
- 22:39easy very cool, well I wish you all the best I'll be in the refugee,
- 22:43so hopefully I'll see you around sure, we'll meet later,
- 22:47in the next days yes, thank you you're welcome.
- 22:53So what's your name? Christoph. Christoph. So where are you from?
- 22:57I'm from Switzerland, from Bern.
- 22:59From Bern. All right, nice. Well, it's nice and cool there. How are you dealing
- 23:03with the heat? Well, I'm adapting, I guess.
- 23:07It's a bit different, but we had hot weather before. But I guess if I look at
- 23:11the weather forecast now, it's pretty much raining. So we'll see how it goes.
- 23:16Yeah, I think as you guys ride north, it's supposed to get a little bit better with the rain.
- 23:21So there's hope but it's quite hot here at
- 23:24the southern Italy I think
- 23:27it's like 35 degrees right now we're all toasting here it is
- 23:30and I guess the next couple of days will will kind of be
- 23:33like that but it was my hope as well so going
- 23:36north getting more to my temperatures again but we'll
- 23:39see how it turns out but I guess
- 23:42preferring a bit of hot and then some kind of
- 23:45weather change in the worst and a
- 23:48lot of rain is not as easy as as a lot of
- 23:51heat again so we'll see yeah
- 23:54and what is your experience as a ultra
- 23:57rider i did a couple of shorter ones so i got with 500 to a thousand kilometers
- 24:04in usual races i would say and i had a lot of private projects two years ago
- 24:09i crossed the whole alps from vienna to finale liguria but on gravel and packed
- 24:15with tent and everything.
- 24:17And so there is a lot of experience in long distances, but not that many races, I would say.
- 24:22But yeah, that's why I'm excited to take it to the next step and go with 4,000
- 24:27and kind of crossing quite a bit of Europe.
- 24:30Yeah, it's a beautiful route. So much to see. I'll definitely be feeling FOMO,
- 24:36seeing all you guys pass my car.
- 24:38But I'll be also waiting for you guys at the refuge and hopefully get more of
- 24:42how is it going on the road. do you plan to camp at all or are you hotel?
- 24:48I have a hotel strategy just because of hygiene and good sleep.
- 24:54It's just, it's a long ride and I don't think I gain much by just have a crappy
- 24:59sleep and go from there. And so, but I have a.
- 25:04Emergency baby with me so if there
- 25:06is nothing I could find or if I just feel good and think three hours suffice
- 25:11then I will just sit down at a wall and take a nap but otherwise the plan is
- 25:16to have proper sleep and then go again just yeah yeah that makes a lot of sense it's it's long,
- 25:25ultra long distance 4 000 kilometers
- 25:27is no no joke and yeah also charging everything I'm also team hotel.
- 25:32I always prefer to stay in hotels because you can get a better night's sleep,
- 25:35you can shower, you can charge everything.
- 25:37But the BV strategy, I think it's brilliant because if you feel good and you
- 25:41want to keep going, you can.
- 25:42And if there's nothing, you can just be it, especially that the weather,
- 25:46you know, it's not, I mean, it's hot, but it's not, I think it's worse to sleep
- 25:50outside when it's really cold and you have to take more gear with you.
- 25:54Right? Exactly. And I guess we don't have to forget it's, it's a vacation.
- 25:59So it's, it's for pleasure and I love writing.
- 26:03I love writing hard and long, but in the end, I want to enjoy it.
- 26:07And I think with five hours of sleep, I will enjoy it a lot more than with some
- 26:12two, three hours in a ditch.
- 26:13So that's so team hotel. Yeah, definitely.
- 26:17I love the mindset. Well, I hope you have a wonderful time and get what you
- 26:22came here for. And I can't wait to see you on the road.
- 26:25Thank you. See you later. Later.
- 26:28So tell me your name. Sebastián Restrepo.
- 26:32Sebastian, have you had all the experiences in ultracycling?
- 26:36Yes, I've done around five races before this one. Three peaks, I did twice.
- 26:41Transiberica, Beehard in Bosnia, and Mittelgebirge Classic in Germany.
- 26:46Okay, so you're ready for this. I hope so, yeah.
- 26:49You get a lot of experience by doing it, but there's no guarantee of doing this
- 26:54thing. Yeah, you never know.
- 26:56Mechanicals, stomach, weather.
- 26:58What are you looking most forward during this experience?
- 27:02Just the landscape, meeting new people and making new friends and riding my bike.
- 27:09Awesome. And any motivation for the finish?
- 27:14Do you have a plan of how many days you want to finish this?
- 27:17So I think the first goal is to finish as long as it takes.
- 27:21But of course, you want to push yourself, do it as fast as you can.
- 27:24So I think after a few days, that motivation really kicks in and you want to do your best.
- 27:28But the priority is just to enjoy the time, ride my bike and finish.
- 27:33Sounds great. I hope to see you all there and get more reports on how you're
- 27:37doing on the road. Yes, see you on the road.
- 27:39So Rafa, tell me, you had quite a journey to get here to Giovinasso. What happened?
- 27:46I'm from Colombia, Bogota, Colombia. So I took a flight to Istanbul.
- 27:51I spent a layover of 13 hours because I was safer.
- 27:56The other option was two hours and I don't want to risk a long trip to miss
- 28:01a connection. So I took the 13 hour layover.
- 28:04I have a friend I had to visit and I flew to Badi this morning. for another two hours.
- 28:11Wow, so not so fresh for an early start tomorrow morning?
- 28:15No, pretty much the jet lag is going to be for the, I mean, I'm training the
- 28:19jet lag, so I'm going to be jet lagged for the rest of the two weeks that I've been riding.
- 28:24So yeah, not super fresh, but ready for the non-sleepy.
- 28:30Well, you're a very experienced rider. You were here for chapter one now we're
- 28:35back for chapter two what are you feeling.
- 28:40It's moving actually i was not supposed to be here.
- 28:48That's one of the things that happens when you don't sleep better,
- 28:55when you don't sleep good.
- 28:56So I wouldn't say I'm super experienced, but I learned a lot last year.
- 29:02I changed a few things on my setup.
- 29:04I already dealt with the traffic in Italy, which is, I think,
- 29:09a serious thing for many riders.
- 29:11It's very similar to home but but
- 29:15it's uh it's something i already know and and
- 29:18yeah i'm i'm ready to see what what's
- 29:22what's next what what happens in eslovenia and then going back and then germany
- 29:26and let's see what happens yeah we're all also super happy that you made it
- 29:31i know you are about to cancel the entire trip but you made it here i want to
- 29:36wish you best of luck i'm in you know,
- 29:39biased and we'll be cheering for you a little bit more because we do have a connection.
- 29:43Follow me each other on Instagram for quite a while. And it's so great to finally
- 29:47meet you face to face. Yeah, likewise.
- 29:50Yeah, it's exciting to make it and have a lot of support from many people. Thank you.
- 29:58And that's all for today's episode. I want to thank the listeners for tuning in.
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