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UN Ocean Conference 2025: Big Promises, Global Funding, and the Push for Ocean Protection · How To Protect The Ocean

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  I am back from
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  the UN Oceans
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  Conference in
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  Nice, France.
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  Beautiful
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  country, a lot of
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  stuff announced,
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  including a lot
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  of money that was
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  made for ocean
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  conservation,
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  but not enough to
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  really protect
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  the ocean. Quite
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  a bit shy.
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  We're also going
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  to talk about a
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  lot of
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  announcements
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  that were made in
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  terms of high
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  seas treaty,
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  in terms of the
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  global plastic
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  pollution
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  treaties and the
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  commitments
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  for that,
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  as well as marine
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  protected areas
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  announcements.
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  So we're going to
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  talk all about
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  that on today's
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  episode of the
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  How to Protect
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  the Ocean
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  podcast.
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  Let's
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  start the show.
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  Hey everybody,
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  welcome back to
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  another exciting
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  episode of the
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  How to Protect
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  the Ocean
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  podcast.
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  I'm your host,
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  Andrew Lewin.
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  This is the
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  podcast where you
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  find out what's
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  happening with
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  the ocean,
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  how you could
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  speak up for the
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  ocean, what you
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  can do to live
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  for a better
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  ocean by
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  taking action.
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  On today's
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  episode, we're
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  going to be
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  talking about my
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  trip to Nice,
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  France, not my
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  20th anniversary
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  that I celebrated
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  in these France
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  with my wonderful
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  wife, but we're
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  going to be
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  talking
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  about the UN
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  Oceans
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  Conference, which
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  is one of the
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  things that I
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  went to Nice for,
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  not only spend a
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  wonderful
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  time with my
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  wife, but also go
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  to the
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  conference, see
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  what's happening,
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  connect with
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  friends, connect
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  with colleagues
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  and meet new
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  people and new
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  friends at these
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  conferences,
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  which I
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  love to do.
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  Now I'm going to
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  just right off
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  the bat, I'm
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  going to say this
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  was very
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  different
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  from the
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  conferences that
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  I normally go to.
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  Now, normally
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  there's science
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  conferences that
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  I go to, and
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  this had a
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  science component
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  that was done the
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  week before I
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  went. I went from
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  the 11th to the
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  15th. This lasted
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  basically from
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  the second to the
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  13th, but there
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  was a lot of
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  stuff that
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  was said.
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  There was a lot
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  of stuff done and
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  it was a little
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  bit different in
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  terms that
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  normally
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  when you go
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  to a conference
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  that I normally
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  go to, it's at
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  one hotel. Either
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  you stay in that
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  hotel or you
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  just walk to it
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  from a different
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  Airbnb or a hotel
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  and you spend
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  most of the time
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  in different
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  rooms and
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  sessions and
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  workshops,
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  speaking with
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  people,
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  connecting with
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  individuals
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  and friends
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  and colleagues
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  and so forth,
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  maybe potentially
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  collaborating on
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  new projects. And
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  when you talk
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  with that and you
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  network, this was
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  a little bit
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  different, not
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  the networking
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  part. There was a
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  lot of that, but
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  the way
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  everything was
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  dispersed across
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  the city, it was
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  a little bit
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  hectic. There
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  was a blue zone,
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  which all the
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  delegations were
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  there, like all
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  the government
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  delegations and
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  the big
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  announcements
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  were done, which
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  I'll talk about
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  in just a sec.
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  And then there
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  was a green
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  zone, which was
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  open to the
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  public. This has
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  never happened
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  before. This is
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  the third
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  time this
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  conference is
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  done. It never
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  happened before
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  in Barcelona. So
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  this was cool
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  that they
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  opened it
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  to the public.
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  There's drawings
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  for kids. We
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  could talk about
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  startups. We
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  talked about
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  fishing. We
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  talked about
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  everything. There
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  was a little
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  presentations
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  going around, but
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  it was really
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  cool. Show some B
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  roll from some of
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  the pictures and
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  videos that I
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  took the city of
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  nice is
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  absolutely
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  gorgeous. There's
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  a lot of water
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  there to remind
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  you to connect to
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  the water. I got
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  to jump in the
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  water with my
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  friend Angela
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  Villa Gomez and a
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  number of
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  different people
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  that I met there
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  in the morning
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  before my
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  co-hosting
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  session for the
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  undertow that I
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  co-founded
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  started. And we
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  had a great time
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  there, but there
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  were a lot of
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  like, there's a
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  green zone that
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  you can go to.
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  There was a lot
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  of side events.
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  So it made it
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  pretty hectic to
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  run around and it
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  was hot. And so
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  if you're wearing
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  conference
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  attire, it was
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  very hot,
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  very sticky.
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  But it was a lot
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  of fun to go to.
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  But some of these
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  announcements
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  that I'm going to
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  talk about, I'm
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  going to
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  interject as I
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  recount these
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  announcements
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  were very
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  interesting. I
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  say to you, take
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  it with a grain
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  of salt. There's
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  a lot of stuff
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  that sounds
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  really great, but
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  don't hold your
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  breath. A lot of
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  what I've learned
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  from a lot of
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  these
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  announcements by
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  governments and
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  different NGOs
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  and stuff like
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  that is like, I
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  will believe it
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  when I see it.
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  And that's all
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  I'm going to say
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  there, but it is
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  in a positive
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  direction, which
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  is great. So
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  we're going to
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  talk about that.
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  I'm going to run
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  through it pretty
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  quickly. There
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  was some heavy
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  financial
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  commitments,
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  including 3
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  billion euros
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  from the European
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  Investment
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  Bank. And
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  the European Asian Development
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  Bank to tackle
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  ocean plastic
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  pollution through
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  2030, which is
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  great. Not much
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  detail in that,
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  but that was
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  great
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  announcement. 2.5
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  billion US from
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  the US Bank of
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  Latin America and
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  Caribbean CAF for
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  sustainable
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  marine
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  investments from
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  2025 to 2030.
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  There's a 119
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  million euro via
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  World Bank for
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  climate
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  resilience in
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  Guinea's coasts.
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  There is 2
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  million euro for
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  Mediterranean
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  ecosystems in
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  North Africa and
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  1.8 million euro
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  to reinforce
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  marine protected
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  areas in Costa
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  Rica and in the
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  Mediterranean.
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  Which is great.
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  And then we saw
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  private
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  investments when
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  capital raised
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  160 million euro
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  towards the Swen
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  Blue Ocean 2 fund
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  targeted 300
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  million euro for
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  biodiversity
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  focused startups,
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  which is great to
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  see. And then of
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  course, bird life
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  and philanthropic
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  public investors
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  committed to 8.7
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  billion euro over
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  5 years for ocean
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  conservation.
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  Now, if I say
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  this, despite
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  that influx,
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  which was great
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  to see, it still
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  falls short of
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  the estimated 175
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  billion dollars
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  that are needed
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  annually to
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  protect the ocean.
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  So that's the
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  financial
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  investments.
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  Again, I'll
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  believe that when
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  I see all those
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  investments be
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  spent and all
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  those projects
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  come through, not
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  all them will be
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  successes, but at
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  least there's
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  money going into
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  those projects.
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  And for the high
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  seas, the treaty
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  advances. So the
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  high seas treaty
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  needs to be
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  ratified. They
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  need 60 countries
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  to ratify those.
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  At the end of
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  this conference,
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  there were 50.
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  They added 12
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  countries,
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  bringing a total
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  to 50. Just 10
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  short of the 60
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  needed to bring
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  the high seas
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  treaty into
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  force. India did
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  pledge to ratify
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  soon, reinforcing
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  the movement or
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  momentum of the treaty.
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  So they're going to be able to
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  move forward with
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  that. Once the 60
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  are reached,
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  there will be 120
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  day countdown to
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  an enactment with
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  COP 1 scheduled
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  within a year
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  after that. The
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  new marine
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  protected areas
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  and 30 by 30
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  progress, the
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  niece declaration
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  of reaffirmed
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  support for 30 by
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  30. The target
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  marking progress
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  from 8% over 10%
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  ocean protection.
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  France, Costa
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  Rica, Cabo Verde
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  and others
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  announced new
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  marine protected
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  areas including
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  French
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  Polynesians, 5
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  million dollars
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  square kilometer
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  sanctuary. The
• 5:16
  world's largest
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  MPA when I say
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  this though, take
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  it with a grain
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  of salt. Some of
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  these MPAs still
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  allow fishing
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  activities like
• 5:23
  trawling into it.
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  The movie ocean,
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  which I reviewed
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  last week, really
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  played an
• 5:27
  important role in
• 5:28
  the discussion of
• 5:29
  banning trawling
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  within marine
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  protected areas.
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  That was brought
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  up a number of
• 5:32
  times throughout
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  UNOC, the United
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  Nations Ocean
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  Conference. And
• 5:35
  that was the
• 5:36
  purpose of the
• 5:36
  movie. It
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  actually mentions
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  the United
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  Nations Ocean
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  Conference at the
• 5:39
  end of that movie
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  and the credits
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  before the
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  credits run. And
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  so that was a big
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  topic of
• 5:43
  discussion within
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  that. I don't
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  know what the
• 5:45
  announcements
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  were around that.
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  But the pressure
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  was put on,
• 5:49
  especially on the
• 5:49
  UK for allowing
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  that to happen.
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  Deep sea mining
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  caution. So a
• 5:53
  growing coalition
• 5:54
  of 37 countries
• 5:55
  called for
• 5:55
  moratorium on
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  deep sea mining.
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  Advocating a
• 5:58
  precautionary
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  halt, pending
• 5:59
  better science
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  and governance.
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  French and
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  international
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  leaders
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  underscore the
• 6:03
  need to pause on
• 6:04
  seabed mining. Because
• 6:05
  essentially we
• 6:05
  don't know a lot
• 6:06
  about the seabed.
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  I think we've
• 6:08
  mapped 25% of the
• 6:09
  seabed. We still
• 6:09
  have a lot more
• 6:10
  to do. And we
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  just don't know
• 6:12
  what we're gonna
• 6:12
  screw up. And
• 6:13
  we're really good
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  at screwing
• 6:14
  things up. So
• 6:15
  that's something
• 6:15
  that we have to
• 6:16
  be careful of.
• 6:17
  Combating
• 6:17
  plastics and
• 6:18
  ghost gear. So
• 6:19
  the Declaration
• 6:19
  urges against
• 6:20
  plastic pollution
• 6:21
  and ghost gear
• 6:22
  pushing the
• 6:22
  fisheries and
• 6:23
  agricultural
• 6:23
  organization and
• 6:25
  other
• 6:25
  organizations to
• 6:26
  ramp up efforts
• 6:26
  to clean those
• 6:27
  up. Countries
• 6:28
  like Australia
• 6:28
  recommitted to a
• 6:29
  global plastic
• 6:30
  treaty, which was
• 6:31
  gone through the
• 6:32
  process over the
• 6:32
  last year and a
• 6:33
  half. We've
• 6:33
  covered it on the
• 6:34
  podcast here. It
• 6:35
  didn't come out
• 6:35
  great. I'm not
• 6:37
  sure we'll have
• 6:37
  to cover where
• 6:38
  the plastic
• 6:38
  treaty is now,
• 6:39
  but they've done
• 6:40
  all their
• 6:40
  meetings. And I
• 6:41
  don't know if it
• 6:42
  was actually
• 6:42
  agreed upon.
• 6:43
  We'll have to
• 6:43
  talk about that
• 6:44
  soon. Confirm
• 6:45
  support for the
• 6:45
  high seas
• 6:46
  protection
• 6:46
  Australia.
• 6:47
  And vowed to ban
• 6:47
  bottom trawling
• 6:48
  in 30% of its
• 6:49
  waters by 2030,
• 6:50
  which I assume
• 6:51
  that will be
• 6:51
  marine protected
• 6:52
  areas given the
• 6:53
  30 by 30 target.
• 6:54
  Improving ocean
• 6:55
  governance and
• 6:55
  finance. So
• 6:56
  investors voice
• 6:57
  concerns that
• 6:57
  unclear
• 6:58
  regulations and
• 6:59
  weak ocean data
• 7:00
  are limiting the
• 7:01
  private sector
• 7:02
  involvement. Take
• 7:03
  that with a grain
• 7:03
  of salt, because
• 7:04
  usually it's the
• 7:05
  private investors
• 7:06
  and private
• 7:06
  sector that are
• 7:07
  causing a lot of
• 7:08
  the problems. I'd
• 7:09
  love to see more
• 7:09
  investment from
• 7:10
  the private
• 7:10
  sector and
• 7:11
  getting them to
• 7:11
  help clear up
• 7:12
  these
• 7:12
  regulations. But
• 7:13
  a lot of times
• 7:14
  it's usually
• 7:15
  private sector
• 7:15
  that's working
• 7:16
  against the
• 7:17
  private sector.
• 7:17
  And so that's an
• 7:18
  interesting
• 7:18
  comment by some
• 7:20
  of the people who
• 7:20
  were talking
• 7:21
  about these are
• 7:21
  the big
• 7:21
  announcements.
• 7:22
  These investors
• 7:23
  call for stronger
• 7:24
  governance, which
• 7:25
  is absolutely
• 7:25
  needed subsidy
• 7:27
  reform, which is
• 7:27
  absolutely needed
• 7:28
  a lot of
• 7:28
  subsidies in
• 7:29
  terms of money
• 7:30
  goes towards
• 7:31
  fishing subsidies
• 7:31
  and more
• 7:33
  transparent
• 7:33
  frameworks to
• 7:34
  mobilize private
• 7:35
  capital. Now,
• 7:36
  just to go back
• 7:36
  to the subsidies.
• 7:37
  What I meant by
• 7:38
  fishing subsidies
• 7:38
  is giving it to
• 7:39
  the big
• 7:39
  industries, not
• 7:40
  the artisanal
• 7:42
  fishers. It's the
• 7:42
  big industries
• 7:43
  that usually get
• 7:44
  a lot of the
• 7:44
  subsidies and
• 7:45
  usually are the
• 7:46
  biggest problems.
• 7:47
  So now the NICE
• 7:49
  ocean action plan
• 7:50
  includes a
• 7:51
  political
• 7:51
  declaration and
• 7:52
  over 800 plus
• 7:53
  voluntary
• 7:54
  commitments from
• 7:54
  governments, UN
• 7:55
  agencies,
• 7:56
  scientists and
• 7:57
  NGOs, UN
• 7:58
  secretary
• 7:58
  general, I think
• 8:00
  that's how you
• 8:00
  pronounce the
• 8:01
  name, stress the
• 8:01
  shift from a
• 8:02
  plunder to
• 8:03
  protection, which
• 8:03
  is obvious. We
• 8:05
  need that shift.
• 8:05
  Urging world
• 8:06
  leaders to
• 8:06
  protect at least
• 8:07
  30% of their
• 8:08
  oceans by 2030.
• 8:10
  Will that happen?
• 8:12
  It doesn't look
• 8:12
  like it's likely. I'm hopeful that it will get close. Hopefully there'll be a big push. But will we worry about that?
• 8:25
  It's not going to
• 8:25
  be a paper MPa,
• 8:29
  it's got to be a
• 8:29
  proper MPa. It's
• 8:31
  got to work. It's
• 8:31
  got to be
• 8:31
  enforced. It's
• 8:32
  got to be managed
• 8:33
  properly. It's
• 8:34
  got to be done
• 8:34
  well. So bottom
• 8:36
  line is the nice
• 8:37
  conference achieve major boosts in financing, conservation targets and 3d progress. But funding is not going to help. It's got to be a way to deal with the
• 8:37
  achieve major
• 8:38
  boosts in
• 8:39
  financing,
• 8:40
  conservation targets, and
• 8:41
  treaty progress,
• 8:42
  but funding gaps
• 8:43
  still remain,
• 8:44
  and the
• 8:45
  scientists warned
• 8:45
  that the
• 8:46
  political
• 8:46
  decoration
• 8:47
  doesn't fully
• 8:48
  address damaging
• 8:49
  practices
• 8:49
  like harmful
• 8:50
  fishing,
• 8:51
  underwater noise,
• 8:52
  and the climate
• 8:53
  role of marine
• 8:54
  species.
• 8:55
  Still, global
• 8:55
  ambition is
• 8:56
  stronger,
• 8:57
  and with the high
• 8:57
  seas treaty
• 8:58
  nearing
• 8:59
  ratification,
• 9:00
  the world may
• 9:00
  finally
• 9:01
  be heading
• 9:02
  toward legally
• 9:02
  binding
• 9:03
  international
• 9:03
  ocean protection,
• 9:05
  which would be
• 9:05
  nice to see.
• 9:06
  I just don't know
• 9:07
  if that's
• 9:07
  gonna happen.
• 9:08
  So we're gonna
• 9:08
  have to see if
• 9:09
  that happens,
• 9:10
  but the biggest
• 9:10
  thing that you
• 9:11
  could do
• 9:11
  is talk to your
• 9:12
  government
• 9:12
  representative
• 9:13
  to say how
• 9:14
  important these
• 9:14
  announcements are
• 9:15
  and how important
• 9:16
  it is for the
• 9:17
  government
• 9:17
  to be transparent
• 9:18
  in their
• 9:18
  commitments
• 9:19
  if they committed
• 9:19
  during UNOC.
• 9:21
  So find out if
• 9:22
  your country's
• 9:22
  committed.
• 9:23
  It'd be
• 9:23
  nice to see.
• 9:24
  If your country
• 9:25
  hasn't ratified
• 9:25
  the high
• 9:25
  seas treaty,
• 9:26
  you can actually
• 9:26
  go, I'll put the
• 9:27
  link in the
• 9:27
  show notes.
• 9:28
  You can actually
• 9:28
  go to a website,
• 9:30
  highseasalliance.org,
• 9:31
  and there's a
• 9:32
  treaty
• 9:32
  ratification
• 9:32
  table
• 9:33
  that shows if
• 9:34
  your country's
• 9:35
  ratified.
• 9:35
  It's really cool
• 9:36
  to see the
• 9:37
  progress.
• 9:37
  We're 10 away
• 9:38
  from
• 9:38
  ratification,
• 9:39
  which will
• 9:39
  be great.
• 9:39
  It has to be done
• 9:40
  by, I believe,
• 9:41
  January, 2026.
• 9:43
  So we're still
• 9:44
  about six months
• 9:44
  away from it
• 9:45
  happening
• 9:45
  in 10 more
• 9:46
  countries.
• 9:47
  Canada, the US,
• 9:48
  Mexico have not
• 9:49
  done it in North
• 9:50
  America.
• 9:50
  That's a shame.
• 9:51
  I hope that
• 9:51
  they do it.
• 9:52
  I know Canada
• 9:52
  said they will.
• 9:53
  They'll sign,
• 9:54
  they signed onto
• 9:54
  it to agree to
• 9:55
  the treaty.
• 9:56
  They just haven't
• 9:56
  ratified it yet.
• 9:57
  And they just had
• 9:58
  an election.
• 9:58
  So hopefully
• 9:59
  they'll
• 9:59
  ratify it then.
• 10:00
  They've had a lot
• 10:01
  of political
• 10:01
  problems.
• 10:02
  Same with the US.
• 10:03
  And of course,
• 10:03
  all North America
• 10:05
  is just watching
• 10:06
  the US and see
• 10:06
  what it does.
• 10:07
  It's been fairly
• 10:08
  disruptive
• 10:08
  this year.
• 10:08
  So we'll see what
• 10:09
  happens.
• 10:10
  However,
• 10:10
  hopefully they
• 10:11
  will ratify it.
• 10:12
  It might be last
• 10:12
  minute, but
• 10:13
  hopefully they
• 10:13
  will ratify it.
• 10:14
  But that's the
• 10:15
  episode
• 10:15
  for today.
• 10:16
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• 10:16
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• 10:39
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• 10:39
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• 10:40
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• 10:43
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• 10:45
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• 10:46
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