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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Bruisers, a podcast about beer, coffee, booze, and Bruisers.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Ray John, and on this very special episode,
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  Speaker 1: we talk to Jenna Williams. We talk about getting into
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  Speaker 1: the world of fighting, women's MMA, and so much more.
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  Speaker 1: She will be fighting Brittany Bickhard tonight for Fury Fighting
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  Speaker 1: up in North Dakota. You can watch it on the
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  Speaker 1: UFC Fight Pass, so it's going to be a great
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  Speaker 1: card and you're not going to want to miss it. So,
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  Speaker 1: without further ado, here is Jenna Williams. I would like
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  Speaker 1: to welcome the show with Jenna Williams. How are you
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  Speaker 1: doing today, ma'am?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing good. How are you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm well. So for those listening, kind of paint us
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  Speaker 1: a word picture. Where are you at? What's going on
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  Speaker 1: around you?
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  Speaker 2: Let's see. So I am currently on base getting ready
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  Speaker 2: for the fights. We're up here in Minot, North Dakota.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm currently at a... B50 Brew. I believe it's
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  Speaker 2: like their one and only coffee shop here. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying to kill time before I have to start my
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  Speaker 2: water cut later this evening and then weigh in tomorrow morning.
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  Speaker 1: Oof, gross.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Is this your first time in North Dakota?
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  Speaker 2: It is, yeah. You know, so far, I didn't see
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  Speaker 2: much of it because I got in late last night
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  Speaker 2: at about 10. I mean, the sun is shining. The
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  Speaker 2: air is a little crisp out. We don't get that
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  Speaker 2: much in Phoenix with the The hot, dry heat. So
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  Speaker 2: you can kind of probably see some of the leaves
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  Speaker 2: are already changing here. So it's actually pretty enjoyable so far.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say, this is probably the best
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  Speaker 1: time for you to be up there. Any later in
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  Speaker 1: the year is like, no, I just, no thanks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Pull out your, your snow suits and jackets and
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  Speaker 2: coats and, but yeah, otherwise putting on a sweater, it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of nice. It's nice change actually.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Well, let's go all the way back
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  Speaker 1: in time. What is your noise? You're good. You're outside.
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  Speaker 2: You're yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You're fine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What's your earliest memory of martial arts?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, goodness. It probably was, let's see, how long ago
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  Speaker 2: would that be? So it was probably, as far as
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  Speaker 2: my involvement anyways, probably a little over 10 years ago.
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  Speaker 2: The reason why I got started was actually a co-worker
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  Speaker 2: of mine that I had as a personal trainer. He
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  Speaker 2: did a little bit of fighting back in his day.
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  Speaker 2: His name is Dan Walsh. He... held pads and mitts
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  Speaker 2: for some of his clients. And there was kind of
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  Speaker 2: a weird incident that happened to some females on our
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  Speaker 2: like inner train system in Portland, Oregon. And it kind
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  Speaker 2: of struck a chord with me that, you know, as
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  Speaker 2: strong and able and capable as I thought I was,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I don't really know how to fight
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  Speaker 2: or throw a punch or defend myself. So I had
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  Speaker 2: bought like a small package of sessions to just learn
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  Speaker 2: how to like hit and kick with him. And the
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  Speaker 2: rest is just kind of history kept building from there.
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  Speaker 1: Well, so I remember hearing in an interview you'd done
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  Speaker 1: before that you had kind of always been athletic your
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  Speaker 1: entire life. What are some, what did you kind of
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  Speaker 1: do when you were growing up?
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, really anything I could get my hands on. Yeah. Goodness.
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  Speaker 2: I think my parents started me in soccer when I
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  Speaker 2: was like three or four years old. So, you know,
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  Speaker 2: wee little thing just kind of running around, probably not
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  Speaker 2: doing much in soccer, but got into gymnastics at a
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  Speaker 2: really young age too. So I feel like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the combination of soccer and kicking with like any sort
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  Speaker 2: of Muay Thai and kickboxing, the gymnastics really helped me
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  Speaker 2: with wrestling and grappling, you know, Grambys, cartwheels, all that
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  Speaker 2: sort of stuff really translates well into the sport. So, goodness,
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  Speaker 2: really basketball, volleyball, football. uh, hockey golf, like the list
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  Speaker 2: just kind of goes on and on. I, I pretty
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  Speaker 2: much tried it all.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Well, I mean, with the gymnastics too, you're,
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  Speaker 1: you're learning body control. And so, which is a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times, a lot of men, women, and once they
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  Speaker 1: get in the cage, they, you know, they want to,
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  Speaker 1: everybody wants that highlight reel. Everybody wants the, the dynamic finish,
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  Speaker 1: but a lot of times you're putting everything into that
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  Speaker 1: punch or a kick, but then you don't know, Oh wait,
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  Speaker 1: that maybe they didn't land. And so now I've got
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  Speaker 1: to control my body and get back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. It really, it definitely, like I said, really
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  Speaker 2: helped translate into, you know, not only just being an
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  Speaker 2: athlete my whole life, but also gymnastics. It really does
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  Speaker 2: give you that awareness on how to move on, how to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, kind of roll with things, how to land properly. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So it was incredibly beneficial growing up and making that
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  Speaker 2: transition into martial arts was something that was pretty smooth, uh,
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  Speaker 2: pretty easy, I guess. I mean, there's always learning and
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  Speaker 2: there's always improvement. I know my coach will definitely tell
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  Speaker 2: you that. So, uh, yeah, we're just continuing to get
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  Speaker 2: better each day.
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  Speaker 1: Well, so how did the aspect of wanting to learn
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  Speaker 1: how to defend yourself turn into, you know, maybe I'll
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  Speaker 1: take a fight or maybe I'll take more than one fight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, you know, it had a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: coaxing from, uh, Dan Walsh, my first coach, because as
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  Speaker 2: I a personal trainer and someone that just is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: fairly considerate of people in general, it was definitely a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of a battle in my head of being like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like I do this job where I help
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  Speaker 2: people and I encourage them to be like their best,
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  Speaker 2: strongest self and, you know, to get in a cage
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  Speaker 2: and really potentially hurt somebody. It was a bit of
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  Speaker 2: a conflict for me mentally and internally. So that's where my...
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  Speaker 2: desire for competition. I've kind of always been an adrenaline
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  Speaker 2: junkie too, ever since I was little doing one kind
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  Speaker 2: of extreme sport or another outside of, you know, your
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  Speaker 2: general sports that are offered in the school system. So, uh, man, I,
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  Speaker 2: I love a good competition and I, I thrive off
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  Speaker 2: of it. So it's one of those things that I
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  Speaker 2: think that was ultimately what pushed me to, to try
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  Speaker 2: to join. I went to some local fights and in Portland, Oregon,
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  Speaker 2: and just saw, you know, the, the lights and the
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  Speaker 2: music and the crowd and the energy of it all.
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  Speaker 2: And then I got there and I was like, all right,
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  Speaker 2: like I'll try one fight. Like, let's see how this goes.
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  Speaker 2: And the one first fight went incredibly well. It was
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  Speaker 2: a first round TKO and, you know, walked away without
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  Speaker 2: a scratch or any sort of bruise on me. So
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  Speaker 2: we just kind of said, all right, well, let's keep
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  Speaker 2: going and trying this. And Even in some of the
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  Speaker 2: losses that I've had, I've always been learning experiences. I've
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  Speaker 2: never really truly been horribly beat. I've had some injuries, sure,
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  Speaker 2: but I feel pretty resilient when it comes down to it.
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  Speaker 2: It's really about a mindset and just pushing and driving forward.
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  Speaker 2: And that's definitely something that I feel like I have.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. So you're saying with your competitiveness, if
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  Speaker 1: we were having a game night, we would definitely want
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  Speaker 1: you on the side.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. If you're looking for someone to win that game night,
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  Speaker 2: that's going to be me for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Well, so I've heard you say that you don't get
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  Speaker 1: better by putting yourself in rooms where people are better
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  Speaker 1: than you don't get better unless you put yourself in
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  Speaker 1: rooms where people are better than you. What rooms have
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  Speaker 1: you put in putting yourself in for this fight?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, goodness, I've been really been doing that a lot
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  Speaker 2: of my life. You know, I've kind of tried to
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  Speaker 2: move to bigger and better schools. I've, uh, Moved. I've
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  Speaker 2: moved a lot in my life, but yeah, recently from.
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  Speaker 2: Portland down back to Phoenix, Arizona, where I'm actually from,
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  Speaker 2: but I was getting ready for an amateur title belt fight.
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  Speaker 2: And that was kind of during the pandemic when everything
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  Speaker 2: was shut down. my current coach at that time was, uh,
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  Speaker 2: him and his wife were pregnant with their first child.
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  Speaker 2: So he was like, Hey, you know, with all the
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  Speaker 2: scare and everything, like, I can't coach you like to
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  Speaker 2: be safe. And I was like, fair enough. So we
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  Speaker 2: kind of, we were trying to look into like maybe
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  Speaker 2: Thailand to go to, but, uh, Americans still weren't allowed
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  Speaker 2: over there. So he was like, you know, Arizona is
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  Speaker 2: really like a Mecca for fighting. Like you should really
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  Speaker 2: consider that there's, you know, a few, really a handful of,
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  Speaker 2: of really good fight gyms that are down there. And
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  Speaker 2: so my parents had actually moved back down there, uh,
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  Speaker 2: in 2020 as well. So in 2021 is when I was,
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  Speaker 2: I went down there for the fight camp, um, fought there,
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  Speaker 2: but it was, you know, you walk into the MMA
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  Speaker 2: lab and I, I can't imagine that there's, there's one person.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if you're already in the UFC that
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  Speaker 2: walks into that gym and is like, Oh yeah, like
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  Speaker 2: no problem. I've got this. You walk in and you have,
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  Speaker 2: Competitors from all over the world that come there to
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  Speaker 2: train that, you know, have moved and sacrificed and given
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  Speaker 2: up a lot in their lives just to be in
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  Speaker 2: that room with that level of competition. Um, with that
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  Speaker 2: level of coaching is, is really unmatched, you know, hands down,
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  Speaker 2: we'll say we are the best in the nation. Um, if,
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  Speaker 2: you know, really contending for a top spot, even in
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  Speaker 2: the world, like we've just, we've been doing this for
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  Speaker 2: a long time and they're very disciplined. They're very skilled.
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  Speaker 2: We show up every day, you know, with little to
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  Speaker 2: no excuses. Like you just go in and you train.
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  Speaker 2: And so walking into that room, goodness, I was there
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  Speaker 2: for about two months. I had two black eyes the
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  Speaker 2: entire time I was there. And, you know, even on
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  Speaker 2: like day one or two of being on on the
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  Speaker 2: fight team, I was like, yep, this is exactly where
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  Speaker 2: I need to be. Like, if I want to be better,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you've got to you've got to swim with
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  Speaker 2: sharks in order to be one. You've got to be
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  Speaker 2: able to surround yourself with the best. in any industry,
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  Speaker 2: in any room, if you want to grow and be better.
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  Speaker 2: So that was where I made probably one of the
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  Speaker 2: best decisions for not only my career, but also like
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  Speaker 2: family life to be able to be back in Phoenix.
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  Speaker 2: So it's 100% been such a blessing and a great
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  Speaker 2: choice for me to move back down to Phoenix and
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  Speaker 2: be at that MMA lab.
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  Speaker 1: How supportive of your parents for this?
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  Speaker 2: So supportive. They were desperately wanting to be here, actually.
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  Speaker 2: They've come to most of my fights, whether they most
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  Speaker 2: of my fights usually end up being not locally and
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  Speaker 2: they have to travel out of state. But it's a
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  Speaker 2: it's a very exclusive event going on here. It's mainly
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  Speaker 2: for military personnel only. We yeah, we only have so
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  Speaker 2: many corners. We only got two guest passes. And so
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  Speaker 2: my parents were like, you know what? Like, we'll hang back.
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  Speaker 2: We're definitely going to watch it on UFC Fight Pass
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  Speaker 2: and support you there. But yeah, they've always been amazing parents.
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  Speaker 2: So it's great to have people like that in my corner.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. Well, for people that don't know, you
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  Speaker 1: will be fighting at Fury Fighting October 2nd, which this
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  Speaker 1: is going to come out then, in North Dakota against
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  Speaker 1: Brittany Bickard. You know, obviously the question that everybody's going
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  Speaker 1: to ask is, how are you feeling for the fight? And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, how do you think it's going to go?
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  Speaker 1: I always hate those questions because you never... like you
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  Speaker 1: train for it and like you have a game plan,
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  Speaker 1: but again, it's the whole Mike Tyson. You never, everyone's
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  Speaker 1: got a game plan to get punched in the face. Totally.
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  Speaker 2: You never know until you walk into that cage. Absolutely. Because,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you can get surprised by someone that is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, even a highly rated underdog. Like we see
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  Speaker 2: it all the time in this sport where, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we have major upsets and people are just completely stunned.
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  Speaker 2: But as far as myself in my regard, this is
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  Speaker 2: probably one of the hardest camps that I've worked at. Um,
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  Speaker 2: Spending hours a day, two, three, four times a day sessions,
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  Speaker 2: like jumping in there and not only working martial arts,
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  Speaker 2: but strength training, speed training, agility training, making sure that
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  Speaker 2: I don't have any sort of hindrances as I walk
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  Speaker 2: into the cage. making sure that I'm calm and collective,
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  Speaker 2: even just kind of some mindset and like cognitive training
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  Speaker 2: to just be able to really control the fight that
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  Speaker 2: way and not be overwhelmed or overanxious. But it's one
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  Speaker 2: thing that I felt throughout this camp is a lot
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  Speaker 2: of peace and more excitement. I haven't really felt nerves
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  Speaker 2: or anxiety at all through this camp. It's just more
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  Speaker 2: so been like, all right, are we there yet? Like,
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  Speaker 2: let's get going.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, so, you know, we kind of talked about
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  Speaker 1: how we have weigh-in tomorrow. How are you with weight cuts?
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  Speaker 2: Usually pretty good. I did struggle a little bit in
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  Speaker 2: my last fight camp with my water cut. I was
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  Speaker 2: trying to cut about 30 pounds in 34 days. And
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  Speaker 2: so it was a little tricky. I had missed weight
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  Speaker 2: by a couple pounds, but my opponent missed weight by
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  Speaker 2: like six pounds. So, I mean, we still fought and
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  Speaker 2: the show went on. Yeah, normally that is not a problem. Again,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of it is about mindset and making sure
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  Speaker 2: that I hit my goal no matter what, no matter
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  Speaker 2: what it takes. But unfortunately, yeah, kind of with like
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  Speaker 2: my last fight, you know, women compared to men's hormones
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  Speaker 2: are definitely different. Trying to cut 30 pounds for a
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  Speaker 2: female is definitely a little tricky. I... Do know that
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  Speaker 2: field very well coming from being a personal trainer, a
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  Speaker 2: fitness nutritionist, all these things. So I usually have it
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  Speaker 2: in the bag, but timing was a little off. But
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  Speaker 2: this fight, I'm about three pounds off, three and a
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  Speaker 2: half pounds off currently. So ideally we'll be able to
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  Speaker 2: do the majority of the water cut tonight. Maybe even
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  Speaker 2: wake up, float a pound through my sleep and then
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  Speaker 2: weigh in and rehydrate and gain a bunch of weight
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  Speaker 2: back to be able to fight Friday.
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  Speaker 1: I hate to ask and talk about food while you
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  Speaker 1: are not enjoying the best food, but what is your
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  Speaker 1: go-to food after a fight?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, usually try to be carb heavy. Definitely need that
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  Speaker 2: energy source in order to take me into the fight.
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  Speaker 2: You ideally try to burn, you know, you go through
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  Speaker 2: your fat burning first and then once you really get
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  Speaker 2: into the you know, longer bouts of exercise, cardio training,
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  Speaker 2: then you start kicking into your carbs, and that's where,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if you have a high carb source anyways,
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  Speaker 2: that will really help you. But usually Italian is kind
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  Speaker 2: of what I try to go to. Initially, when I'm
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  Speaker 2: still in the event center for the weigh-ins anyways, I will, like,
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  Speaker 2: bring a bag of, you know, really healthy, really clean stuff, fruits, veggies, clean...
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  Speaker 2: Ideally kind of vegetarian, maybe just really healthy, you know,
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  Speaker 2: grass fed stuff anyways, as far as immediate things to
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  Speaker 2: go into my stomach, lots of water, hydration, uh, good
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  Speaker 2: sea salts. And then, yeah, later we'll, uh, get out
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  Speaker 2: to dinner. Sometimes when these weigh-ins are early in the mornings,
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  Speaker 2: we'll do brunch first, but you know, whatever, whatever time
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  Speaker 2: of day, whatever comes first, as long as I get
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  Speaker 2: to eat, I'm happy.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what about after the fight?
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  Speaker 2: After the fight, anything goes.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. We've kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Been, you know, we deprive ourselves for so long and
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  Speaker 2: I'm definitely one that really sticks to it that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't have any sort of cheat meals. I'm not drinking.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not doing anything that, you know, will hinder my
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  Speaker 2: performance or, you know, set me back at all as
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  Speaker 2: far as the weight or the water cut goes. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, after the fight, it's, you know, you get
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  Speaker 2: to indulge a little bit. I'll definitely try to be
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  Speaker 2: mindful of that because ideally i'm trying to turn around
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  Speaker 2: and fight again as quickly as possible after this so
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  Speaker 2: i can get one more fight in before the year
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  Speaker 2: is up god willing and if i can of course
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  Speaker 2: get an opponent that's always the tricky thing for female
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  Speaker 2: fighters but yeah ultimately i mean i've got like a
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  Speaker 2: list it's gonna be a crazy indulgence so we're uh
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  Speaker 2: i'm looking forward.
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  Speaker 1: To that as well i bet there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: good meat up there in north dakota.
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  Speaker 2: Too Yeah, I know. I was actually looking to see
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  Speaker 2: if there's some like a butcher shop or something here
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  Speaker 2: and might not because I'm very particular about the meat
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  Speaker 2: that I eat. I don't really go to grocery stores
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  Speaker 2: because you just never know what you're going to get.
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  Speaker 2: So I feel like butcher shops are pretty reliable. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to actually be looking that up here shortly
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  Speaker 2: and see what we can do for some some good
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  Speaker 2: quality meat.
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  Speaker 1: Well, so you touched on earlier about women not being
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  Speaker 1: able to get a lot of fights. And I remember
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  Speaker 1: hearing an interview earlier this year where you wanted to
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  Speaker 1: do at least four fights. And I think that was
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  Speaker 1: in January. And now we're on your second fight of
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  Speaker 1: the year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What is it that people aren't seeing when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to women's MMA? Because I am a huge proponent for
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  Speaker 1: women's MMA. I think that there's been better women MMA
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  Speaker 1: fights this year and the past few years than there
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  Speaker 1: have been for the men, whether they're getting the spotlight
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  Speaker 1: or not. It's a whole other thing. But you're saying
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: that even, you know, obviously on the regional levels, that
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: there's just not that many women fighters. Is it that
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: they don't want to take these fights or that we're
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: not having as much talent out there as we think
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: they are?
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, ultimately you come down to, I mean,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not exactly aware of the statistics of it, but
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, we have maybe about a quarter of the
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: number of female fighters that, you know, there are male fighters.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: So that number gets dropped drastically. You then have to
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: filter it. You know, are they amateurs? Are they pros?
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Moving past that, we've got weight classes that we have
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: to then filter into. Even if you find a pro
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: in your weight class, you know, you're not typically going
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: to match up a girl that's 2-0 compared to 13-0 or,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: you know, 10-0 sort of thing. So you want to
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: try to find somewhere that the skill set and the
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: experience is fairly close and Again, that just keeps filtering
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: the number down and down and down until you only
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: have so many girls to choose from. And even when
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: all that lines up, you've got some girls that maybe
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: they weren't training for the past six months. Maybe a
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: girl got hurt. And for females, maybe someone decided to
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: have a child. You never know what... what becomes of it.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: So again, like that filtering process just comes down to
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: very smart, small pool for girls and possibilities. So, um, yeah,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: we just, we keep searching. I've literally got a list
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: of organizations, a list of like female fighters that I've
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: already said yes to. So if they, my organization or
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: whoever contacts them and they say yes, it's an automatic
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: yes already for me. So yeah, I, uh, I did
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: recently just jump on with a management team. I've pretty
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: much managed myself. goodness, this whole time leading into this,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: but it's something that I like to have a hand in.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I'm really organized and I'll do the detective work to
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: ideally find that person, but it's kind of like the
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: stars all have to line up and make sure that
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: it's the right person to actually get this fight.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: No, that makes sense. Well, congratulations on getting the management team.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: We talked about the women's MMA aspect of it, but
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: people don't think about the money aspect of it and
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: the sponsorship aspect of it. How has that been for you?
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Because obviously people think, you know, they always see what
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: these men and women are making the UFC fights, but
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, do the backwards math. You got to
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: pay the management. You got to pay the gym. You
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: got to pay the nutritionist, all the other things. Like
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: by the time you get it done, like how much
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: do they really get?
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you definitely, again, leading up until this fight,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I haven't had to worry about management. I don't worry
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: about really like fitness coaches or nutritionists. I am that.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: It's a specialty of mine. I've been doing it for
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: over a decade. I was raised in a family that
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: was very health conscious and very, you know, fitness and
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: activity focused as well. So it's one thing that, you know,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I can kind of do that in my sleep. Thank goodness,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: because that definitely... saves me some money and, you know,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: finances spent. But, um, yeah, as far as the management
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: company goes, I think I've really, I've, goodness, I've probably
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: been contacted, you know, ever, even into my amateur career of,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: you know, probably about four or five different management companies
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: that have wanted to work with me through the years.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: And I've just kind of always said no, um, for
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: one reason or another, I don't need to get into that,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: but I just felt like, When I came across Isaac
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: with Waverly, the fit was right. You know, he was
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: very respectful. He was very humble. He really seemed like
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: he was looking out for the fighters and, you know,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: his clients as far as a management company is concerned.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: So I really respected that about him. So that was
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: an easy choice for me. Even within like the first
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: couple of minutes of talking to him, I could pretty
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: much tell that that was the right fit. But, yeah,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: especially at this, you know, a little bit lower level
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: when you're not quite in the UFC yet, it's– there's
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: a lot of cutting out that goes to, you know,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: your team and your coaches and your management. And if
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: you have to, you know, fitness coaches, nutritionists, like all
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: the things that you just kind of mentioned. So, yeah,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: we definitely don't get a lot. So that's where the
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: sponsorships definitely come into huge play. I have amazing sponsors. Goodness,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: I've had– Especially one sponsor in particular, MyFit Foods. They're
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: based in a few different states, Oregon, Colorado, mainly in Houston,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: I believe. Yeah, I think it's Houston, but Texas is
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: their headquarters. Mario, the owner of that, has just been amazing.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: He's literally been there for me since day one. No
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: questions asked. Always been excited to be in my corner
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: and help me out with expenses. I've gotten some newer...
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: sponsors over the years that have really just been as
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: supportive and has really made this journey a lot easier,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: at least on my bank account. So I can, I
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: definitely appreciate that. And, you know, we're always looking for
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: more sponsors. So if anyone, you know, really wants to
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: help out a female fighter on her way up, you know,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: hit my DMS, you know, reach out to either my
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: management company or me, Instagram, whatever, you know, you feel
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: like you can get in touch with us. We'll take it. Absolutely.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I love that. And be respectful if you're going to
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: slide into her DMs.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, please.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I don't want to ask about the DMs and the men,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: but I imagine there's a lot of weird guys out there. Actually,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of weird guys out there,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: so we'll just leave it at that.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: As much as this is a physical sport, obviously it's
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: a mental one as well, where whether you are having
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: to go in the deeper rounds for championship fights or
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: you don't know what happens to somebody in the locker
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: room all the way to the cage or going from
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: the hotel to the locker room, or even when it's
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: building yourself up and then, you know, kind of bring
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: yourself down mentally afterwards because there's a huge rush of adrenaline.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: What do you, what are some of your kind of
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: your mental workouts that you like to do?
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Um, that's, Definitely a good question. There's, there's particular ways
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: of breathing. There's one in particular called box breathing that
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: I really focus on. Um, there's, there's different patterns in which,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: you know, it really helped get oxygen back into the lungs,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: into the heart, everything into the muscle. So your body
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: functions correctly. Uh, pass the physicality of it. I mean,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: it really helps you cognitively be able to think clear,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: to be able to recall things, just, you know, be
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: able to calm down your central nervous system. So there
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: are definitely ways that, you know, I just try to
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: sit in, you know, I think about, try not to
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: think about the things that could stress me out. I
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: focus on my breathing patterns. I try to stay positive,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: you know, joking, laughing with, you know, teammates or coaches, corners,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: whoever I have there at the time. And, Just going
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: with that most confidence, you know, whether win or lose,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I know how much hard work I put into this
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: and can still be proud of the work that I've
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: done because I know that once I walk into the cage,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I'm going to leave nothing on the table, like no
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: gas left in the tank basically. So I will have
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: gone in and done everything ideally that I need to
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: in order to, to win.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I love that. Well, it's about to be holiday time.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: So as a personal trainer, what are little things that
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: the normal person can do to kind of keep back the,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: the Hollywood heavy that is going to about to happen?
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, you've got Thanksgiving and Christmas all coming
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: up new year's Eve. So it's, it's one of those
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: where people like to, you know, let loose a little
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: bit and indulge. And by all means, you know, that's life. It's,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: it's about a balance, you know, you're going to have
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: highs and lows and you've got to, again, with a mindset,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: just be okay with that. Like you're not always going
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: to be you know, in fight shape and fight ready,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: you've got to understand that, you know, you know, especially
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: for women, like our weight fluctuates, we're supposed to be
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: sitting at a higher body fat percentage than men. But
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: as far as ways to kind of combat that and
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: try to stay at your best physical self, meal prepping
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: is always a great thing. You know, whether you do
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: it yourself, whether you work through companies to do that,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: kind of being aware of your macros, which are, you know,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: your carbs, your proteins, your fats, One thing that I
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: sit down with clients a lot, I think is probably
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: for nutrition. One of the biggest things that surprised people
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: is their protein intake a day. Um, it's usually a
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: lot higher than people expect. So if for a quick example,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: whatever body weight you are trying to be, say, you know,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: you want to be 150 pounds, uh, whether, you know,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: you're dropping that or gaining that ideally you need about
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: 150 grams of protein a day. So, your ratio should
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: be about one to one as far as your weight
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: to your grams of protein in a day. And if
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: you're not eating that, you are going to deplete your
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: muscle mass. You're going to have a higher body fat percentage.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: And then, you know, once you kind of get that
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: switched and you're able to have a higher muscle mass
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: percentage and lean muscle mass, it's nice, you know, because
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: it's easier to maintain. Your body has, for your metabolism,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: runs faster and runs higher. So that way, you know,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: you burn fat easier. easier, quicker than if you were
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: to have less muscle mass. Um, muscle mass is really just,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: you know, such a driver for longevity for male or female,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: you know, no matter what age it's, you know, it's
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: such a prime indication of good health. So the more
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: muscle mass you can have on your body, honestly, the
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: better health easily that I would say anybody would be. So, yeah,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, as long as you can kind of watch
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: your protein intake, meal prepping is always convenient. It's going
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: to definitely help having a great support system too, you know,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: surrounding yourself with people that are like-minded, whether it's family
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: or friends, coworkers, et cetera. You know, if you, my
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: dad always used to tell me, you know, if you
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: hang out with bank robbers, you're going to turn into
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: a bank robber sort of thing. So, you know, that
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: goes for a lot of different, you know, aspects in life,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: you know, whether you want to, you know, be in
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: the best shape possible, whether you want to, move forward
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: with your career. We were just, you know, talking about
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: getting in those rooms of people that are better than you.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: You know, if you want to be better than yourself,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: then find those people that can help you along the
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: way that will be a good support system. And no
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: doubt you'll reach your goals as long as you stick
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: with it.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. I love that. Well, I have a segment
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: on the show. I call it the five counts, just
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: five random questions.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Number one, what is the last three things you Googled?
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Last three things I Googled. That's a good question. I
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: think a lot of it probably had to do with
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: the Air Force base. I was like, okay, what restaurants
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: are on base that I can eat at? Where's the
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: butcher shop and why not? I think a lot of
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: it was based around food. So a lot of food
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: that I definitely Googled last. Oh, we had one of
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: my teammates fought in the Dana White Contender Series. Unfortunately,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: it didn't go our way and get the contract, but
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: definitely was looking up recent fights and stuff like that too.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. I've seen multiple people get on there multiple
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: times and they end up getting it. So, yeah. Yeah.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Number two, if you owned a liquor company, brewery, winery,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: coffee shop or dispensary, which one would you own and
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: what would the name be?
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good question. Uh, you know, I'd probably
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: go with coffee. It's something that even, even today as
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I'm focusing on my weight and my water cut, um,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: coffee is something like for me personally, it's like an
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: everyday thing. Um, I think, you know, maybe a vineyard
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: or a winery would be probably a little bit more
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: lucrative than a coffee shop, but I mean, as far
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: as like necessities and what I would probably consume every
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: day and, and really appreciate would be a coffee shop.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: What would the name be?
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Ooh, that's a good question. Uh, coffee shop names. I'd
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: have to think about that. Uh, you know, maybe something
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: about just like kind of keeping people going, maybe something
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: to do with fitness or fighting too, but yeah. Okay.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Uh, number three, who was your first celebrity crush?
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. Way back in the day. You know, shoot,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: I might age myself a little bit. But I think
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: back in the day, I can't remember if he was
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: on like Full House as like a guest host. appearance
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: but Jonathan Taylor Thomas when I was really oh well
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: he was definitely.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: A heartthrob so yeah he was on Home Improvement with
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: the Tim Allen show.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah he was on Home Improvement but I think I
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: loved watching Full House and I think he was like
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: a guest appearance on on like an episode or two
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: so yeah Jonathan Taylor Thomas was probably one of my first.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I will look that up while you answer this next
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: question which is who or what.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Inspires you Who inspires me? Honestly, my parents have been
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: such a huge inspiration, particularly my dad. He's, I think,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: really set my mindset as far as, you know, of resilience,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: of hard work, of, you know, doing things that are for, like,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: the better good, whether it's for your family, whether it's
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: for yourself, even if you don't like to, even if
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: it's hard, even if it's grueling. He's always been... such
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: a role model and inspiration for me. And he's been
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: able to do it by still being there for both
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: me and my older sister, being there for my mother,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: his wife. You know, he's been such an amazing man
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: and been such an inspiration, I think, you know, for
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: any man like to really, you know, have a family
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: and be a provider and, you know, a businessman. So
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I would say definitely he's been a huge influence on
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: how I live my life and how my mindset is.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. I love that. So I'm not seeing him
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: on Full House. However, he was on Living Color for
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: an episode.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Living Color. OK, interesting.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Which is not something that I thought I was going
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: to ever find out. So I'm going to figure out
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: how to find that episode.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right. I definitely had a few different celebrity crushes
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: along the way. But I think as far as the
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: first one, when I was really young, if my memory
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: serves right, was was him.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, he was all over the Tiger Beat.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right. Yeah, that was it. Those heartthrob magazines, those
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: little ones, that's funny.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: So kids back in the day, there used to be
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: things called magazines. Yeah.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Seriously.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: And then number five, what would you tell your 17-year-old self?
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, man, 17, where was I? Goodness, high school. I
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: was honestly probably going through one of my first ACL tears.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: There was a lot that stripped me back.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: How many have you had?
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Two, unfortunately. Yeah, I had one when I was, goodness,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: I think I was just barely 17 in my senior
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: year of high school. It was a big soccer collision
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: that had happened. And then my second one was back
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: in 2021 from fighting. But yeah, it was, I think
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: 17 was kind of a rough year. I had a
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: pretty good high school. I know some people are like, oh,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I hated high school. It was terrible, this and that.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: I had pretty good high school years, honestly. But I think, unfortunately,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: my senior year was a little bit of a downer
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: for me just because I started off my senior year
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: getting my ACL torn in the fall season of playing soccer.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: So it was definitely a battle and a struggle getting
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: through that. You know, not only physically it was painful,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: but also just mentally. I was supposed to go play soccer, actually,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: for Northern Arizona University. And that kind of all got
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: dashed when they found out that I got hurt. So
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: unfortunately we, uh, sorry, there we go. Um, but yeah,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: unfortunately it was, you know, I, I had changed paths.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I didn't end up going to play soccer for college.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: I had actually gone up to Boise state where my
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: sister was and wanted just to be around family. But yeah,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I think what I would tell my 17 year old
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: self is, is, you know, any bit of pain or
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: any like negative experience that you're, you're going through in life. It's,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: it's a short fraction of time in your life here.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Your time is, and on this earth, ideally is, you know,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: a long one. So you have the ability to, to
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: change that outcome. You have the ability mentally to, you know,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: as long as you just realize that this too shall
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: pass sort of thing. You know, you can keep going.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: You are, you can predict what happens in your life.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: You know, whatever comes to you, you can choose how
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: you want to react to that, your mindset and everything
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: like that. Even if it's a negative experience, you know,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: you try to find the good in it. You try
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: to find the positive. And so that's what I think
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I would tell myself is to not let this deter me,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: like not let this get me down, stay positive and
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: keep pushing forward.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: That's perfect. I love that.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Well, if people want to find out more about you,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: obviously support you in any way, follow you online, watch
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: your fights. How can they do all the things?
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think probably the main thing that I keep
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: up with social media-wise is my Instagram. That's JennaWilliams underscore CPT.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: I've got a TikTok that I don't mess with too much,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: a YouTube that I don't mess with too much. I
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: think I have a Facebook account still active. It looks
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: like I'm on that, but honestly, my Instagram and my
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Facebook are linked. So if I post something on Instagram,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: it just automatically goes to my Facebook. But the easiest
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: way to probably communicate and catch up on what I'm
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: up to is probably my Instagram.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: There we go. And again, watch her fight tonight. Fury fighting.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: She's going to be in North Dakota. I've enjoyed this
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: so much, and I can't wait to have you back
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: in the future.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much. I appreciate it.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Jenna, for being on the show. Again,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: she will be fighting Brittany Bickhart tonight in North Dakota
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: for Fury Fighting. You can check it out on the
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: UFC Fight Pass. It's going to be an amazing fight card,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: so you're going to have a lot of fun with
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: that one. And then also, we have UFC tomorrow night.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: So it's a great weekend for MMA in general, so
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: obviously make sure to support her in any way you can.
• 36:22
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• 36:25
  Speaker 1: she is far more active, so While you're following her
• 36:28
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• 36:31
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• 36:36
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• 36:39
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• 36:41
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• 36:45
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• 36:47
  Speaker 1: you want to find out what I'm drinking, maybe we
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: can have a beer together. If you want to follow
• 36:50
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• 36:53
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• 36:55
  Speaker 1: and cheers.