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- 0:02Speaker 1: It's victory Monday, October thirtieth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by Jet Home Loans and now,
- 0:15Speaker 1: even though the pickens are slim, there's always hope.
- 0:19Speaker 2: You'll find a costume by tomorrow.
- 0:22Speaker 3: J P.
- 0:24Speaker 4: Checker.
- 0:26Speaker 2: When you work with words, words are your work and
- 0:29Speaker 2: welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. The first Hour
- 0:32Speaker 2: presented by Jet Home Loans. J P. Shadrick with you,
- 0:35Speaker 2: Pete Prisco coming up, Tony Pastelli a little bit later.
- 0:38Speaker 2: We're at the Hundai Studios at the Miller Electric Center
- 0:41Speaker 2: in Jacksonville. On ten tex LAM, Jaguars dot Com and
- 0:45Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube coming up. A recap of Jaguars twenty, Steelers
- 0:48Speaker 2: ten and now five straight wins for the Jags in
- 0:52Speaker 2: five different stadiums in four different cities over a seven
- 0:56Speaker 2: time zone stretch. What a run for the jag now
- 1:00Speaker 2: tied for the best record in the AFC. The bye
- 1:02Speaker 2: week ahead, we'll keep it real fanatics, fan questions, and
- 1:06Speaker 2: we've got a lot of show ahead.
- 1:09Speaker 4: Well.
- 1:09Speaker 2: Doug Peterson, Jaguars head coach, after the game, happy with
- 1:12Speaker 2: where they are going into the week nine bye week.
- 1:16Speaker 2: I told the team.
- 1:16Speaker 5: You know, the first half of the season, these first
- 1:19Speaker 5: eight games, I think, you know, with all the travel
- 1:23Speaker 5: and Thursday games and in and out of hotels and
- 1:25Speaker 5: different things like that, the guys have really handled it
- 1:27Speaker 5: extremely well. Proud of the guys for doing that, and
- 1:30Speaker 5: really excited to be you know, six and two at
- 1:32Speaker 5: the buy.
- 1:33Speaker 2: Let's welcome in the CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco
- 1:36Speaker 2: Tony BISSELLI will join us a little later in the
- 1:38Speaker 2: program tonight. Some other things going on early today, Pete,
- 1:42Speaker 2: what a win for the Jags. They go up to Pittsburgh,
- 1:44Speaker 2: they punch them in the mouth and get the job done.
- 1:48Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what JP that was. It was a
- 1:52Speaker 3: better win than the score would indicate because they had
- 1:56Speaker 3: issues at certain times. You know, Trey Herndon gets it,
- 2:00Speaker 3: which he would have had if he holds onto the football,
- 2:02Speaker 3: if Trevor Lawrence doesn't make that terrible, terrible throw, And
- 2:06Speaker 3: I don't know what the hell he was doing on
- 2:07Speaker 3: that play. There was nobody he could have checked it down,
- 2:09Speaker 3: maybe the ETN in the middle of the field and
- 2:12Speaker 3: lived another day. But I don't know what he was
- 2:14Speaker 3: doing there. That was so unlike him. And there were
- 2:17Speaker 3: just little things that kind of prevented them from from
- 2:21Speaker 3: being up more than what they were, and they dominated
- 2:25Speaker 3: that game. That's not a good Pittsburgh team. Mike Tomlins
- 2:28Speaker 3: got the best out of them, but they are not
- 2:30Speaker 3: a great Pittsburgh team. And so yeah, that's a good
- 2:34Speaker 3: win though. You go up there on a Sunday, you know,
- 2:38Speaker 3: when the last game before the bye, and you get
- 2:41Speaker 3: that victory.
- 2:42Speaker 2: That's impressive for them, certainly is on top of the
- 2:45Speaker 2: previous four as well. And now the entire idea of
- 2:50Speaker 2: this season has turned back to what we were thinking
- 2:54Speaker 2: going into the season. The Jaguars are right there. They
- 2:56Speaker 2: are tied for the best record in the AFCPT as
- 2:59Speaker 2: it stands today. If it ended today and it never does,
- 3:03Speaker 2: they would be the number three seed in the AFC playoffs.
- 3:07Speaker 2: A lot of big games coming up, of course, but
- 3:09Speaker 2: they're right there in the mix.
- 3:11Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 3:11Speaker 3: And again now you get to buy and you get
- 3:14Speaker 3: to sit back, and then you come off your by
- 3:17Speaker 3: and you have two home games, and one of them
- 3:19Speaker 3: against the San Francisco team that quite frankly can't stop
- 3:23Speaker 3: anybody anymore. I mean that's two games in a row
- 3:26Speaker 3: where they've given up a boatload of yards throwing and
- 3:29Speaker 3: they come in there, and then you get who's in
- 3:32Speaker 3: one after the Ravens right after that?
- 3:34Speaker 2: Is that who it is?
- 3:34Speaker 3: No, I got that schedule wrong.
- 3:40Speaker 2: And Titans. Of course the Titans.
- 3:44Speaker 3: So and Will Levis was outstanding on Sunday, and I'm
- 3:46Speaker 3: a big Will Levis guy, and I think you'll end
- 3:48Speaker 3: up being their quarterback. But you're again you're facing a
- 3:50Speaker 3: rookie quarterback on the road, and that's to your advantage.
- 3:54Speaker 3: So again, the schedule, I thought before the season, the
- 3:58Speaker 3: schedule is favorable playing out that way, and I do
- 4:03Speaker 3: think that you look back on the Chiefs game, they
- 4:06Speaker 3: had no business losing that game, I don't think. So
- 4:10Speaker 3: you look, you'd be sitting with the best record time,
- 4:12Speaker 3: with the best record in the league, and how whatever
- 4:15Speaker 3: happened against the Texans. We'll look back on that in
- 4:17Speaker 3: December and go, what was that? Because that's a good
- 4:20Speaker 3: that Texas team is is feisty and c J. Stroulds
- 4:23Speaker 3: playing well. But let's be real, JP, Yeah, that that
- 4:28Speaker 3: score was just got away from it.
- 4:30Speaker 2: And you remember after that game, I mean, Doug Peterson
- 4:34Speaker 2: was even saying, you know, he said on one of
- 4:38Speaker 2: the interviews with us. I think on the Doug Peterson
- 4:40Speaker 2: Show the next week, it was a lot of bs
- 4:42Speaker 2: going on, like what does that mean. I'm sure we
- 4:44Speaker 2: won't find that out until things are, you know, down
- 4:48Speaker 2: the road a little bit further. But if that's the
- 4:50Speaker 2: turning point of the season, then hey, that they had
- 4:52Speaker 2: to get away to, you know, get closer to each
- 4:56Speaker 2: other and everything. You always joke nobody.
- 4:58Speaker 3: End of that, that's Tony's Tony don't buy it.
- 5:01Speaker 2: But I mean that we'll find out. I mean, I'm curious,
- 5:04Speaker 2: and you know, if it comes to an end in
- 5:07Speaker 2: the super Bowl and all that and there's a trophy
- 5:09Speaker 2: and everything that comes with it, what that actually was
- 5:12Speaker 2: That Texans game could be the turning point.
- 5:15Speaker 3: Yeah, and again sometimes you have a game like that
- 5:17Speaker 3: and just kind of galvanize the whole team. They had
- 5:19Speaker 3: a lot of mistakes. Remember that game was all full
- 5:21Speaker 3: of mistakes, busts and coverages, and and receivers weren't sitting
- 5:26Speaker 3: down against the zone. They'd run right into the into
- 5:29Speaker 3: the zone and instead of sitting down and giving Trevor
- 5:31Speaker 3: Lawrence some options in that against that zone. So I
- 5:35Speaker 3: think there were a lot of things that play and
- 5:38Speaker 3: they kind of use that to like they did last
- 5:40Speaker 3: year with the Denver game, to kind of get them going.
- 5:42Speaker 3: And I think that's where they are right now. And
- 5:45Speaker 3: this is, you know, despite what some of the outside say,
- 5:48Speaker 3: it's a good football team. And I don't think they've
- 5:52Speaker 3: come close to playing as well as they can on offense.
- 5:55Speaker 3: I just don't it's not And I was I watched
- 5:58Speaker 3: the tape today JP and I'll talk a little bit
- 6:01Speaker 3: about the offense but in a bit, but I just
- 6:03Speaker 3: don't think they're right. They're quite there yet. In fact,
- 6:08Speaker 3: there's a lot of things you look at and you go, Okay,
- 6:11Speaker 3: what's missing, And we'll get into that later on if
- 6:14Speaker 3: you want to. But I just I just look at
- 6:17Speaker 3: it and I go, there's just a couple things missing,
- 6:19Speaker 3: particularly with the quarterback.
- 6:20Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get to that, and just a little bit.
- 6:22Speaker 2: Of course, the Jaguars offense, they've had some injuries on
- 6:26Speaker 2: that side of the ball as well. Well. This is
- 6:28Speaker 2: a defense peat that was dinged up little going into yesterday.
- 6:32Speaker 2: Two starting players and the secondary were out. Of course,
- 6:35Speaker 2: Tyson Campbell did not play. Andre Cisco was a scratch
- 6:38Speaker 2: with some cramping issues. The last couple weeks and it
- 6:41Speaker 2: turned into kind of a hamstring issue as well. So
- 6:44Speaker 2: Monterrey Brown at corner again, Andrew Winger comes in at safety.
- 6:48Speaker 2: Darius Williams has three more passes defensed. On the other side,
- 6:52Speaker 2: Trey Herndon was in the stat book again. Hey guess what.
- 6:56Speaker 2: The secondary stood up tall again and played big and
- 7:00Speaker 2: got the job done.
- 7:02Speaker 3: And you mentioned it. Winger was outstanding on Sunday. You know,
- 7:06Speaker 3: a couple of years ago we used to I did,
- 7:09Speaker 3: I'd criticize him, but didn't think he was that good.
- 7:12Speaker 3: In the last year and a half when he's been
- 7:15Speaker 3: on the field, he's become a different player. And the
- 7:18Speaker 3: interception he had, he was on the right hash and
- 7:23Speaker 3: went clear across the field to make the interception and
- 7:25Speaker 3: he never saw him, you know, Tramiski never saw him.
- 7:28Speaker 3: It was just a really good read the eyes of
- 7:31Speaker 3: the quarterback not being threatened in my area, so I'm
- 7:34Speaker 3: gonna go there and go attack it and go get
- 7:37Speaker 3: the football. It was a great play. But he made
- 7:39Speaker 3: a lot of plays in the run game as well.
- 7:41Speaker 3: He was active, and he's a good guy to have
- 7:45Speaker 3: as your third safety, and you know, and bring him
- 7:48Speaker 3: in in some dime packages as well. He played really well.
- 7:51Speaker 3: Darius Williams is playing at a Pro Bowl level, period,
- 7:54Speaker 3: end of story. He's been one of the better quarterbacks
- 7:57Speaker 3: in the league so far this year. Should have had
- 7:59Speaker 3: an interception, dropped it, but really playing good, smart, tough football.
- 8:06Speaker 3: And then Trey Herndon should have had to pick six.
- 8:09Speaker 3: I mean, that was a whole nother story that game.
- 8:11Speaker 3: That game is in a whole different feel to him
- 8:13Speaker 3: if he gets that one. But all in all, and
- 8:15Speaker 3: Brown didn't play as well this week as he did
- 8:19Speaker 3: a week ago. He gave up the touchdown to Pickens
- 8:22Speaker 3: and didn't play as well. But it wasn't a liability.
- 8:25Speaker 3: He wasn't like he was a disaster out there either.
- 8:28Speaker 3: And so add it all up, when Campbell comes back
- 8:31Speaker 3: and Cisco comes back, and that's a good secondary and
- 8:36Speaker 3: we didn't think it would be. They they've they've made
- 8:39Speaker 3: a lot of people eat their words about that secondary,
- 8:41Speaker 3: including us. We all said that they had questions about
- 8:44Speaker 3: the secondary. And Antonio Johnson got the hail Mary interception
- 8:47Speaker 3: at the end of the game. But he got one,
- 8:49Speaker 3: and when you get one sometimes you start feeding off
- 8:51Speaker 3: of that. So, yeah, you mentioned the secondary, kudos to
- 8:54Speaker 3: that group. They're playing above and beyond what I thought
- 8:57Speaker 3: they would play too.
- 8:58Speaker 2: We'll dig deep into the defense up, especially on the
- 9:01Speaker 2: defensive line, and some reasons why they've been so good
- 9:04Speaker 2: against the run. Yeah, the Steelers weren't running a lot
- 9:07Speaker 2: anyway coming in, but they ensured it again yesterday and it.
- 9:11Speaker 3: Was funny real quick though. Back to the secondary JP yep,
- 9:15Speaker 3: the opening play of the play of the game against
- 9:18Speaker 3: the defense. What happens if he hits Deontay Johns wide
- 9:21Speaker 3: open in the middle of the Probably he probably should
- 9:24Speaker 3: have caught it. It wasn't a great throw, but he should
- 9:26Speaker 3: have caught it. So he had that one. Then you
- 9:28Speaker 3: had the touchdown and the wide open in the end zone.
- 9:30Speaker 3: He threw it behind him. You know, you wonder what
- 9:33Speaker 3: happens if those passes get hit, you know, if they
- 9:36Speaker 3: hit those because those wide open guys they got they
- 9:39Speaker 3: busted on. The one was a pick in the end zone,
- 9:42Speaker 3: he got picked Monterrek Brown got picked off. He had
- 9:44Speaker 3: no chance. And then one in the middle field was
- 9:46Speaker 3: just a bust of coverage.
- 9:48Speaker 2: That can happen from time to time. We've seen that before.
- 9:51Speaker 2: Certainly we'll get to deeper on this defense. As we said,
- 9:55Speaker 2: including the pass rush, the Jaguars got home three times
- 9:58Speaker 2: for sacks, two of the from Josh Allen yesterday Pete
- 10:02Speaker 2: one of those from Trayvon Walker, and he pushed the
- 10:05Speaker 2: tackle back into the quarterback.
- 10:07Speaker 3: And you show you saw his power and we know
- 10:11Speaker 3: he has power. He does that move all the time.
- 10:14Speaker 3: He just gets into the midsection of the defensive lineman.
- 10:16Speaker 3: On that play, I mean the offensive lineman he had,
- 10:18Speaker 3: he just ran him over. The guy couldn't hold up
- 10:20Speaker 3: against him. Again though, the problem is the pass rush moves.
- 10:25Speaker 3: There was one play where he actually got a pressure
- 10:29Speaker 3: where he slid inside and made a pass rush move
- 10:32Speaker 3: and I thought there's progress. So it was better, much better.
- 10:39Speaker 3: How did they credit those sacks, because when you watch
- 10:41Speaker 3: him on the film, did they credit Josh Allen with two?
- 10:45Speaker 2: They did credit Josh Allen with two full sacks and
- 10:48Speaker 2: Trayvon Walker with one, so a total of three for
- 10:51Speaker 2: the team.
- 10:54Speaker 3: So the one sack looked like it was a shared sack.
- 10:58Speaker 3: But I guess it.
- 10:59Speaker 2: Looked like that's a good point. I need to go
- 11:01Speaker 2: back and see if they did a half and a
- 11:03Speaker 2: half and then yeah, it.
- 11:04Speaker 3: Looked like Roy Robertson Harris was right there.
- 11:06Speaker 2: I think it was.
- 11:07Speaker 3: That's who it was, was right there with him.
- 11:09Speaker 2: I'll have to dig through it and just to check that.
- 11:12Speaker 3: Yeah, but again, pass rush better, not great better. Josh
- 11:19Speaker 3: Allen playing out of his mind? What does that give him?
- 11:21Speaker 2: Now?
- 11:21Speaker 3: Ten?
- 11:23Speaker 2: Josh for the season is at nine. He's second in
- 11:25Speaker 2: the league. Now Daniel Honor has ten.
- 11:28Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Josh Allen making a bunch of money.
- 11:33Speaker 3: He's making a bunch of money. Kudos to him. I mean,
- 11:37Speaker 3: you know, look, we said it. I said it earlier season.
- 11:40Speaker 3: Didn't think he was a game wrecker. He's becoming a
- 11:42Speaker 3: game wrecker. He's playing like a game wrecker. And that's
- 11:46Speaker 3: all you can ask for him. It's a big season
- 11:48Speaker 3: for him. He spent the entire offseason away getting himself
- 11:52Speaker 3: in tip top shape, and he's playing to that type
- 11:55Speaker 3: of expectation that he has I know for himself, and
- 11:58Speaker 3: I think that many around the league had when he
- 12:00Speaker 3: came into the league. So he's been outstanding, continues to
- 12:03Speaker 3: get better and better, and that money. You wonder if
- 12:09Speaker 3: maybe they should have signed him to an extension before
- 12:12Speaker 3: the season.
- 12:15Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you get a little lot cheaper for
- 12:18Speaker 2: the Jaguars then, so sure, but I.
- 12:22Speaker 3: Get why they didn't. I get why they didn't.
- 12:24Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta go prove it, right, and he is
- 12:26Speaker 2: certainly going to prove it this year. We've got plenty ahead.
- 12:29Speaker 2: We'll come back and get into the quarterback play yesterday,
- 12:32Speaker 2: a little more on the defense coming up, and a
- 12:35Speaker 2: little later in the show. Tony PISSELLI coming up later
- 12:38Speaker 2: tonight in the second hour. We'll have the fanatics, fan questions.
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- 13:01Speaker 6: Yeah, we were an empty and I don't think I
- 13:04Speaker 6: don't know if we've ever thrown that ball with a
- 13:05Speaker 6: running back out there. So honestly got to give a
- 13:07Speaker 6: lot of credit to Travis for staying ready, for knowing
- 13:09Speaker 6: what the look was. They played a cover two and
- 13:11Speaker 6: the corner jumped are out by I think that was
- 13:14Speaker 6: Calvin at number two, our receiver there. So the corner
- 13:18Speaker 6: jumped that and Travis was just rolling down the sideline
- 13:21Speaker 6: and the safety really instead of getting high over the top,
- 13:24Speaker 6: he drove as well. I think he thought I was
- 13:25Speaker 6: throwing it to Calvin there too, and then you know,
- 13:28Speaker 6: got fortunate and I put enough air on it because
- 13:30Speaker 6: that could have been bad as he had a jump
- 13:32Speaker 6: on if I threw a flat. So you know, Travis
- 13:34Speaker 6: making a great play down the field. That's a tough
- 13:35Speaker 6: play for running back and him being able to haul
- 13:38Speaker 6: it in and then go and finish it and go score.
- 13:39Speaker 6: I mean, that was a huge play for us after
- 13:41Speaker 6: we had I think we had turned it over right
- 13:43Speaker 6: before that defense got a big stop and then we
- 13:45Speaker 6: went and had that play to score. So that was
- 13:47Speaker 6: a big, big swing for us right there.
- 13:50Speaker 2: That's the quarterback Trevor Lawrence, of course, discussing the fifty
- 13:53Speaker 2: six yard touchdown pass to Travis Etn Jr. Late in
- 13:57Speaker 2: the third quarter five minutes and changed to play in
- 14:01Speaker 2: the third and the Jaguars went. I'm seventeen to three
- 14:05Speaker 2: after that one, and welcome back is Jaguars Happy Hour
- 14:08Speaker 2: on Victory Monday. JP Shadrick Pete Prisco, CBS Sports Senior Writer,
- 14:13Speaker 2: and I believe that the Hall of Famer has entered
- 14:17Speaker 2: the chat. Tony, he's in a car. Where are you, Tony?
- 14:23Speaker 4: I mean I'm in San Francisco, Northern California. What do
- 14:26Speaker 4: you mean, sort of, Pete? I was getting phone calls.
- 14:30Speaker 4: I was in a meeting and I'm getting phone calls. Yes,
- 14:35Speaker 4: he's joined the shot. Pete is awful by himself.
- 14:41Speaker 3: You know what I did radio by myself for a
- 14:43Speaker 3: long time in that city, and it was far from
- 14:46Speaker 3: hawfull A and B. You were trying to make a
- 14:49Speaker 3: joke and your connection is so bad that it broke.
- 14:52Speaker 2: Up before you get unbelievable, so bad, JP, so bad.
- 14:59Speaker 3: A joke didn't.
- 15:01Speaker 2: Didn't it didn't hit And the screen is the wrong way, Tony.
- 15:05Speaker 2: It's everything's all wrong about that. That's great.
- 15:10Speaker 3: I mean, you look like you're in a desert or something.
- 15:12Speaker 3: Doesn't look like it. Where are where is Are you
- 15:14Speaker 3: in San Francisco or are you outside of San Francisco.
- 15:18Speaker 4: I'm outside San Francisco.
- 15:20Speaker 3: Yeah, you look like you're in a desert or something.
- 15:22Speaker 4: I'm not in a desert. I'm driving from call it
- 15:25Speaker 4: Stanford back to uh uh San Francisco.
- 15:29Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well, hey, let's let's get into the
- 15:34Speaker 2: offense yesterday and.
- 15:37Speaker 3: It's watching him on that his car shaking.
- 15:40Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not driving, are you, Tony?
- 15:43Speaker 4: No, I'm not driving.
- 15:44Speaker 2: I'm a passenger, relaxed, making sure.
- 15:48Speaker 3: I feel sorry for the driver by the way, yea,
- 15:50Speaker 3: trust me, Yes, listen to me.
- 15:53Speaker 4: He just he just got them listening to me for
- 15:55Speaker 4: an hour.
- 15:55Speaker 3: And I used to listen for Well, if you're going
- 15:58Speaker 3: for pell you're going for Palo Alto to San Francisco.
- 16:01Speaker 3: The show will be over by the Zan Francisco.
- 16:04Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll be sitting in traffic.
- 16:07Speaker 4: There's zero traffic. We're gonna be back in thirty minutes.
- 16:10Speaker 2: That's doubtful. Hey, Trevor Lawrence highs and lows yesterday right
- 16:16Speaker 2: the interception, and he admitted, yeah, I just made a
- 16:19Speaker 2: bad mistake. That was dumb. I shouldn't have done that.
- 16:21Speaker 2: And next time I'll throw it away kind of deal.
- 16:24Speaker 2: And but hey, they come back with a touchdown. You
- 16:26Speaker 2: just heard him talking about that play to Travis Etn
- 16:29Speaker 2: and the wherewithal to make that throw and then Etn
- 16:33Speaker 2: was back in the game at that point after an
- 16:34Speaker 2: ankle issue. He had turned his ankle and was like,
- 16:36Speaker 2: I gotta go back and finish. I'm gonna have a
- 16:38Speaker 2: week off next week anyway, so why not play. So
- 16:42Speaker 2: that pretty much got him out in front by two
- 16:44Speaker 2: scores and that was the difference.
- 16:48Speaker 3: Well, the game should have been over long before that. A. B.
- 16:53Speaker 3: I don't know what Trevor Lawrence was even seeing that
- 16:57Speaker 3: that was a two man route with the check down
- 17:00Speaker 3: being the third to Etn. And I don't know there
- 17:04Speaker 3: were eight Steelers in the area when he when he
- 17:07Speaker 3: threw that ball, it was I just don't understand what
- 17:10Speaker 3: unless he was he trying to throw it away. It
- 17:12Speaker 3: didn't look like it.
- 17:13Speaker 2: He said.
- 17:14Speaker 3: It was just not terrible.
- 17:16Speaker 2: He said after the game he was trying to hit Ridley.
- 17:19Speaker 4: It goes back to what I said a couple of
- 17:21Speaker 4: weeks ago. The biggest issue Trevor Lawrence has. He's too competitive.
- 17:25Speaker 4: He doesn't no one just to give up on a
- 17:27Speaker 4: plane and say, you know, let's live and fight another day.
- 17:29Speaker 4: And he's trying to make something happen when there's nothing
- 17:31Speaker 4: there to make happen.
- 17:34Speaker 3: Yeah, that one, I didn't That one, I didn't understand
- 17:38Speaker 3: at all. He could have checked it down. He did
- 17:40Speaker 3: have Etn in the middle for a checkdown. That would
- 17:42Speaker 3: have gotten it would have got like two yards. But
- 17:43Speaker 3: you're right, you live to play another down. What that was,
- 17:46Speaker 3: wasn't that first down?
- 17:48Speaker 2: Yes, first and goal to six?
- 17:50Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you check it down or you throw it
- 17:54Speaker 3: into the crowd. That's the end of that. That was
- 17:56Speaker 3: a bad decision. Uh. And then there were other plays where,
- 18:02Speaker 3: again with this problem is crept up a little bit,
- 18:05Speaker 3: where he had the second level and took the early shot,
- 18:10Speaker 3: the quicker shot, he sped up a little bit.
- 18:14Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna have a hard time being too critical
- 18:17Speaker 4: of him. He was twenty four for thirty two to
- 18:19Speaker 4: ninety two, and if you take away the one interception,
- 18:23Speaker 4: it was almost a perfect day.
- 18:24Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I'm not I'm just saying there are the
- 18:27Speaker 3: reason I say that, Tony. No, there is so much
- 18:31Speaker 3: more on that plate that they're going to get to.
- 18:34Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to say. I don't think. I
- 18:37Speaker 3: don't think we've come close to seeing the best of
- 18:39Speaker 3: this offense at all, all seasons. We head to the break,
- 18:43Speaker 3: the offense hasn't come close to being as good as
- 18:45Speaker 3: it's going to be. That's my That's why I say that.
- 18:50Speaker 4: I would agree with you. I would agree with you.
- 18:52Speaker 4: I think that if this team stays healthy, they're only
- 18:55Speaker 4: getting it better on the second half of the year.
- 18:58Speaker 3: I mean, I love seeing that play at n down
- 19:00Speaker 3: the sideline. That to me, you know who used to
- 19:04Speaker 3: do that? The guy that ye, yeah, there aren't a
- 19:08Speaker 3: lot of backs who can do that. That's that's a
- 19:10Speaker 3: that's a skill set, that's a real skill set. So yeah,
- 19:13Speaker 3: I was.
- 19:14Speaker 4: I was.
- 19:14Speaker 3: Look, he played really good football. He's been playing really
- 19:17Speaker 3: good football last two weeks. With a guy with an
- 19:19Speaker 3: injured knees, he played well. I just think there's so
- 19:21Speaker 3: much more and he knows it, and you know it,
- 19:24Speaker 3: and the team knows it, and the rest of the
- 19:25Speaker 3: league knows it. It's coming and it's gonna be those
- 19:28Speaker 3: next level throws. I still think it goes back to
- 19:31Speaker 3: earlier the season. They were a little the play calling
- 19:34Speaker 3: was a little disjointed because they were scared of the
- 19:37Speaker 3: interior of the offensive line. And don't get me wrong,
- 19:39Speaker 3: the interior the offensive line, Tony, I don't know, if
- 19:40Speaker 3: you watch a tape on your way to San Francisco,
- 19:43Speaker 3: it was it was. It wasn't great in pass protection.
- 19:46Speaker 4: Again, yeah, I didn't have access to it yet to
- 19:49Speaker 4: watch it later. So watching it live, I thought overall
- 19:54Speaker 4: the protection was above average. I thought Cam was great.
- 20:00Speaker 4: Eight against outside Smith, I thought I did a great job.
- 20:03Speaker 4: And I thought outside of you know, they left Anton
- 20:06Speaker 4: Harrison by himself more than I ever thought they would.
- 20:09Speaker 4: And I would say outside of two or three plays,
- 20:12Speaker 4: he did a good job.
- 20:13Speaker 3: He threw to the ground a bunch of times, and
- 20:16Speaker 3: he got away. I will say this, he got away.
- 20:18Speaker 3: He got away with about three holds. I mean, blake,
- 20:23Speaker 3: they don't call it. They've spoken like a true offensive lineman.
- 20:27Speaker 3: I loved it. But yeah, he got away with a
- 20:29Speaker 3: bunch of holes. But he threw me to the ground
- 20:30Speaker 3: a couple of different times. That that that that shows
- 20:32Speaker 3: you how powerful he is.
- 20:35Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought he played. I thought he played.
- 20:38Speaker 3: I think says you know that Shatley has problems in
- 20:42Speaker 3: past protection. Uh, the center had some problems in past protection.
- 20:49Speaker 3: But aside from that, you're right, it was it was
- 20:51Speaker 3: a solid day.
- 20:52Speaker 4: Yep. I thought they played physical there. They were tough.
- 20:56Speaker 4: I think it's a physical, tough minded team. Not much
- 21:02Speaker 4: phases them.
- 21:04Speaker 3: And the tight end, the rookie tight end. For the
- 21:07Speaker 3: first time, I've been waiting for it he was blasting
- 21:10Speaker 3: people on Sunday. You go back and watch that tape.
- 21:12Speaker 3: He's blasting people. He comes, he pulls, he gets in
- 21:16Speaker 3: those those those you know, he gets in the traps.
- 21:18Speaker 3: And he was hitting people on Sunday.
- 21:21Speaker 4: And how good's Evan.
- 21:22Speaker 2: Ingram Ten targets, ten catches, eighty eight yards. He did
- 21:26Speaker 2: lose one, but hey, the perfect day in terms of
- 21:29Speaker 2: catching him.
- 21:30Speaker 3: Yeah, he played, He played well, and you know, the
- 21:33Speaker 3: play call and I thought was better. You know, they
- 21:36Speaker 3: probably ran the screen fourteen times, I think, but there
- 21:40Speaker 3: were thirteen of them. They would have gone the one
- 21:42Speaker 3: that was knocked down at the line of scrimmage, that
- 21:45Speaker 3: was going that was gonna go for about thirty five yards.
- 21:48Speaker 3: And somebody they asked me all the time, what play?
- 21:52Speaker 3: What play? What play? Am I going to criticize on
- 21:54Speaker 3: Sunday the fans, I was going to criticize the shovel pass,
- 22:01Speaker 3: But after watching the tape, the shovel pass might have
- 22:06Speaker 3: gone for about twenty five yards. If sheriff makes his block,
- 22:12Speaker 3: Oh I had to do get in front of the
- 22:14Speaker 3: guy and make your block. It goes for twenty five
- 22:16Speaker 3: It was a crack and a crease and he didn't
- 22:18Speaker 3: he didn't make his block. Otherwise that's a big light,
- 22:21Speaker 3: so I can't really criticize. I didn't love it. I
- 22:23Speaker 3: don't like inside shovel passes to the tight end like that,
- 22:27Speaker 3: but I didn't mind it after watching it. So I
- 22:30Speaker 3: really didn't have any There were no bad decisions, nothing
- 22:33Speaker 3: really to criticize. For the first time, I come out
- 22:36Speaker 3: of the game and I left there thinking, Okay, there
- 22:39Speaker 3: were no bonehead decisions to criticis.
- 22:41Speaker 2: Well they didn't. They didn't go far and fourth down
- 22:43Speaker 2: either Pete in the game, so it was well, there
- 22:46Speaker 2: you go.
- 22:47Speaker 3: Well, there you go.
- 22:47Speaker 2: They kicked field goals all day.
- 22:48Speaker 4: I'm sure I'm sure Doug's sleeping much better this week
- 22:52Speaker 4: knowing that you didn't criticize them.
- 22:53Speaker 3: Pete, Well, he's got a buye a week. He doesn't
- 22:55Speaker 3: have me on his back, and it's all good. And
- 22:57Speaker 3: he six to two, right, what's what's not to like
- 23:00Speaker 3: about it?
- 23:01Speaker 2: Hey? By the way, the last time the Jaguars were
- 23:04Speaker 2: this good was nineteen ninety nine, when they were seven
- 23:07Speaker 2: and one through eight games. They were six and two
- 23:10Speaker 2: also in nineteen ninety eight. Those are the two best
- 23:13Speaker 2: starts through eight games until this year when the Jags
- 23:16Speaker 2: are six and two. You guys are both a part
- 23:18Speaker 2: of those teams. Ninety nine. Well, Pete, you were.
- 23:21Speaker 3: Covering ninety nine team was special, really special. Should have
- 23:25Speaker 3: been the champs. Gagged what should have been the champs. Thanks,
- 23:33Speaker 3: but you were the best team. You would have beat
- 23:36Speaker 3: the Rams. You were the best team.
- 23:38Speaker 4: I didn't say anything, but I didn't want. I'm trying
- 23:41Speaker 4: to forget about that.
- 23:42Speaker 3: You know what people forget about the ninety nine team.
- 23:45Speaker 3: That defense was the number one ranked defense in the
- 23:47Speaker 3: league that year. They forget that it was it was
- 23:51Speaker 3: really good. Well, I mean, this defense is playing well,
- 23:53Speaker 3: but in the number one ranked defense in the league.
- 23:56Speaker 3: So to compare the two is not fair because that
- 24:00Speaker 3: team was veteran team had more talent, more star talent,
- 24:04Speaker 3: at least I thought it did. But this team is
- 24:08Speaker 3: where I thought it would be, if not maybe one
- 24:12Speaker 3: game behind where I thought they would be at this
- 24:14Speaker 3: point the season, Fay have a.
- 24:16Speaker 4: Chance to get your thirteen and four.
- 24:18Speaker 3: Still, Pete, you do well, particularly you know you're in
- 24:21Speaker 3: San Francisco. All of a sudden, I can't imagine what
- 24:23Speaker 3: they're saying about the forty nine ers out there and
- 24:26Speaker 3: they play them next week, and we're all talking about
- 24:29Speaker 3: perty either we're talking about that defense.
- 24:32Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you what the sentiment in San Francisco
- 24:36Speaker 4: is about forty nine ers. My good friend at Business
- 24:38Speaker 4: Partners sitting right next to me asking me if it
- 24:40Speaker 4: should bench brock Per He was the problem. That's how
- 24:45Speaker 4: they feel about it right now.
- 24:47Speaker 3: But you know what, tell your business partner, maybe they
- 24:49Speaker 3: should betch the defensive players. They look at the look
- 24:52Speaker 3: at the look at they give it up, like what
- 24:54Speaker 3: six hundred something yards the last two weeks and three
- 24:57Speaker 3: touchdowns and four touchdowns and one pick? What do they do? Win?
- 25:03Speaker 4: Is it? Steve Wilkes, Pete.
- 25:06Speaker 3: You know somebody made a point to me yesterday. Steve
- 25:09Speaker 3: Wilkes sits upstairs. Robert Salah and Demico Ryans were on
- 25:14Speaker 3: the field banging it, you know how the motion of
- 25:16Speaker 3: it hitting guy. You know they kind of took fed
- 25:18Speaker 3: off of that. I wonder if there's a big disconnect
- 25:22Speaker 3: with that now. You know, you got to think about
- 25:23Speaker 3: that something. I mean, because that defense always seemed like
- 25:28Speaker 3: they cut it to twenty four to seventeen Sunday and
- 25:32Speaker 3: the Bengals get the ball and you're sitting here going okay,
- 25:34Speaker 3: well this is where the defense gets his sack, gets
- 25:36Speaker 3: the ball back, they go down and get his gore.
- 25:38Speaker 3: Noe Joe Burrow, big big, big, big bang, right down
- 25:40Speaker 3: the field. Game over.
- 25:44Speaker 2: Hey, let's come back. We got plenty of head. We'll
- 25:46Speaker 2: get into the Jaguars defense and where they rank and
- 25:50Speaker 2: other things we'll hear from. Andrew Wingert coming up as well.
- 25:52Speaker 2: He had plenty to say after the game in Pittsburgh.
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- 26:27Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 26:28Speaker 3: I don't want to hear no one complaining. I don't
- 26:30Speaker 3: to hear no one complaining in the comments about the Jags.
- 26:33Speaker 3: Days were six and two.
- 26:35Speaker 2: Let's go.
- 26:36Speaker 3: So he said, doll, Hey, hey, that's a little dollar.
- 26:38Speaker 3: We don't listen to nobody, Nobody we are nobody. Hey,
- 26:41Speaker 3: go out, have a hopey fans. We'll hope he would have.
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- 27:09Speaker 2: He'll be back with us in just a little bit
- 27:11Speaker 2: when he gets settled. Pete Prisco alongside j P. Shadwick
- 27:14Speaker 2: with you and Pete. That defense starting to talk a
- 27:19Speaker 2: little bit. Right after a game like that, the confidence
- 27:23Speaker 2: is there, and and we touched on the secondary earlier.
- 27:26Speaker 2: Let's let's get in the trenches now and this defensive line.
- 27:29Speaker 2: Devon Hamilton was back. How did he look on tape?
- 27:32Speaker 3: First of all, rusty, He looked a little rusty. I mean,
- 27:37Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, I understand it. You know what,
- 27:40Speaker 3: he looks a little lean almost JP. Maybe he didn't
- 27:44Speaker 3: get the lift as much when he had the back
- 27:46Speaker 3: injury or something. But but he'll be fine. I mean,
- 27:48Speaker 3: there was a couple plays where he puts. Did he
- 27:50Speaker 3: get on the statue? Did he show up with the statue?
- 27:52Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember if.
- 27:53Speaker 2: He defense, I don't remember.
- 27:54Speaker 3: He didn't play a lot of snaps.
- 27:56Speaker 2: Right, Uh, Hamilton is not on there?
- 27:59Speaker 3: Nope, Yeah, yeah he I mean he didn't play a
- 28:02Speaker 3: lot of snaps, so I don't know how many listen playing.
- 28:07Speaker 2: But yeah, defense, Hamilton played fourteen sat Yeah.
- 28:13Speaker 3: Yeah. So it's it's gonna take. It's a little prop
- 28:16Speaker 3: you know, process for him. But I do think getting
- 28:18Speaker 3: him back is important because he's such a good run player.
- 28:22Speaker 3: When he is on the field, I think he can
- 28:23Speaker 3: push a little bit inside. So it's good to see
- 28:26Speaker 3: him back on the field. I thought, you know, when
- 28:28Speaker 3: I watched tape, I thought Roy Robertson Harris played well.
- 28:32Speaker 3: You know, Fonocossi's been playing solid. Blaxon wasn't as good
- 28:36Speaker 3: as he was a week ago, but he was okay.
- 28:38Speaker 3: Gossis made some plays on defense, so they were a
- 28:42Speaker 3: good trader made a couple of plays. Still not great
- 28:46Speaker 3: rush in the past, but he made plays. And Josh
- 28:49Speaker 3: Allen was phenomenal up front, one of the most improved
- 28:53Speaker 3: players by the way of that team. I said it
- 28:54Speaker 3: last week. I'll say Devin Lloyd again. Mail. I don't
- 28:59Speaker 3: know how many tackles he was credited with, but he
- 29:01Speaker 3: was pretty much all over the field.
- 29:05Speaker 2: Nine combined tackles, seven solos and one pass defense.
- 29:10Speaker 3: Yeah, he was. He played well. He played well, and
- 29:13Speaker 3: that's a good linebacker group. So I don't think they
- 29:18Speaker 3: are a dominant, dominant defense, but they're a good defense
- 29:23Speaker 3: right now. And Mike callwell, let's give him a lot
- 29:25Speaker 3: of credit. I wasn't sure about this defense, and I
- 29:30Speaker 3: think they've overachieved it a big way.
- 29:33Speaker 2: Fourth in the league now against the run. I think
- 29:35Speaker 2: they're fifth on third downs top ten and scoring number
- 29:39Speaker 2: one and takeaways that that adds up to some pretty
- 29:43Speaker 2: good winning results for a defense that is, you know,
- 29:47Speaker 2: going into the game, that was the question they asked
- 29:49Speaker 2: forwards Pickings is why is the Jaguars pass defense so ineffective?
- 29:53Speaker 2: And that was that's what got him into the the
- 29:56Speaker 2: A little bit of trouble with the words the Hope
- 29:58Speaker 2: defense and all that stuff. But the Jaguars are thirty
- 30:01Speaker 2: first and passing yards, but Pete, they're twelfth in the league.
- 30:03Speaker 2: And passing yards per play, I mean they are overall
- 30:07Speaker 2: playing well. All of those yards come late garbage time
- 30:10Speaker 2: and the like.
- 30:11Speaker 3: Yeah. And and the other thing the takeaways. What should
- 30:15Speaker 3: they have had two more yesterday?
- 30:16Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, absolutely, they had two.
- 30:18Speaker 3: They should have They should have they should have twenty yep.
- 30:22Speaker 3: And that's you know, when you take it. And that's
- 30:24Speaker 3: how they kind of made their run last year was
- 30:26Speaker 3: they started taking the ball away. And when you take
- 30:29Speaker 3: the ball away and don't turn the ball over, you're
- 30:31Speaker 3: going to be in in a lot of games and
- 30:33Speaker 3: not win them, no matter who you're playing. So that
- 30:35Speaker 3: that's an important thing for them. It's interesting because we
- 30:40Speaker 3: sit here at least I do and talk about the
- 30:42Speaker 3: pass rush to pass rush to pass rush, right, Josh
- 30:44Speaker 3: Allen's done his thing. Normally, if you start getting concerned
- 30:50Speaker 3: about the pass rush being as good as it can be,
- 30:52Speaker 3: you're not getting the takeaways. Well they are, and I
- 30:56Speaker 3: think that's a very telling sign about how active the
- 31:02Speaker 3: secondary has been this year. And I can go back
- 31:05Speaker 3: to the winger play on Sunday, I mean that that's
- 31:08Speaker 3: that's just eyes on the quarterback not being threatened in
- 31:11Speaker 3: your zone. I'm gonna jump this and go over here.
- 31:14Speaker 3: He had not There wasn't a person in his area,
- 31:16Speaker 3: so he could be that aggressive and make that play.
- 31:19Speaker 3: And he read his eyes and went over there and
- 31:20Speaker 3: made the play, and it was that was a big,
- 31:23Speaker 3: big boy safety play. That's what that was. You know,
- 31:27Speaker 3: you see it all the time in the NFL. Read
- 31:29Speaker 3: the quarterback's eyes, jump the route, get there, pick it
- 31:33Speaker 3: off and make a play. And he did that. And
- 31:36Speaker 3: you know they've been making plays like that all year
- 31:38Speaker 3: in the secondary.
- 31:41Speaker 2: So the Jaguars, Pete, would you say, are they still
- 31:46Speaker 2: needing to go get somebody or can they? Can they
- 31:49Speaker 2: run the rest of the way with what they have
- 31:51Speaker 2: right now, considering the guy's back. That's kind of what
- 31:53Speaker 2: we heard from Doug Peterson. That was kind of the
- 31:56Speaker 2: tone today. Hey, some of these guys could be back.
- 32:00Speaker 2: Let's see how they play.
- 32:01Speaker 3: Are they talking about who could be back.
- 32:03Speaker 2: At Hamilton and smooth? Right? Those are the guys that recently.
- 32:08Speaker 3: They're back and they're not still not rushing the pastor
- 32:12Speaker 3: the way you need to be a star studed team.
- 32:14Speaker 2: Can they elevate that as it goes along? It's a
- 32:17Speaker 2: big question. You only have tomorrow to figure it out.
- 32:19Speaker 2: If you if you don't know by now, you probably
- 32:21Speaker 2: don't know.
- 32:21Speaker 3: I knows around JP, I'd still try and add a pair. Look,
- 32:25Speaker 3: I think this team has a chance to do something special.
- 32:28Speaker 3: They can win the whole damn thing. Okay, they can,
- 32:32Speaker 3: So why hold yourself back from exploring the possibility of
- 32:37Speaker 3: giving up a draft pick to go get a guy
- 32:39Speaker 3: who can help your team. Here's one Derek Barnett supposedly
- 32:43Speaker 3: on the market. If Derek Barnett is on the market,
- 32:46Speaker 3: Doug Peterson knows Derek Barnett, right, Yeah, so they're they're
- 32:52Speaker 3: you know, Montese Sweat and Chase Young might be available
- 32:57Speaker 3: because Washington's in the tank. Here's the problem. I think
- 33:02Speaker 3: there are three draft picks this year, two, three, and
- 33:05Speaker 3: four are all tied to the Ridley trade.
- 33:10Speaker 2: Right, all of them. Yep. You gotta be careful with those.
- 33:14Speaker 3: I don't think you can. You can't trade those. So
- 33:17Speaker 3: since they're all tight, so you're gonna have to trade
- 33:18Speaker 3: a future pick. Now, if you're Washington, for example, and
- 33:23Speaker 3: you lose Chase Young and free agency or Montes Sweat
- 33:26Speaker 3: and free agency, you're gonna get a three back. So
- 33:29Speaker 3: you're your bare minimum. You're gonna say, okay, I'll take
- 33:32Speaker 3: a three and twenty four and something I mean in
- 33:35Speaker 3: twenty five and something else in twenty four to get
- 33:38Speaker 3: the guy like that. But if you're gonna make the
- 33:41Speaker 3: run and the push, okay, let's look at Seattle. Look
- 33:44Speaker 3: what Seattle did today. Seattle wasn't happy where their interior,
- 33:48Speaker 3: their defensive line was. So then when I got Leonard Williams,
- 33:52Speaker 3: they're ready. They think they're gonna go make a push
- 33:55Speaker 3: for the playoffs. And once you get in the postseason,
- 33:57Speaker 3: anything can happen. So why not now Jacksonville needs I
- 34:01Speaker 3: think if I'm Jacksonville and I'm Trent Balky, I'd add
- 34:04Speaker 3: an edge rusher if I could, somehow, some way, I'd
- 34:07Speaker 3: add an edge rusher. You can never have enough of
- 34:09Speaker 3: those guys.
- 34:11Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. They're gonna do it by four
- 34:12Speaker 2: o'clock tomorrow. That's the trade deadline. And is there anything
- 34:16Speaker 2: else you would go pick up on defensive.
- 34:19Speaker 3: Look at depending on what's up with Za Jones. That
- 34:22Speaker 3: worries me a little bit.
- 34:23Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a weird one because I think he's finished
- 34:26Speaker 2: one game. Pete. If I'm not mistaken. He's come out
- 34:28Speaker 2: of some other two and then was inactive and out
- 34:32Speaker 2: for the rest of them.
- 34:33Speaker 3: So and and does he have a knee injury now, yes, yes,
- 34:36Speaker 3: that is yeah, And so they listed him week to week.
- 34:40Speaker 3: I think, isn't that right? And you know, I'm concerned
- 34:44Speaker 3: about him because they need him on the field because
- 34:46Speaker 3: he was not on the field.
- 34:48Speaker 2: Yeah, he opens up everything else.
- 34:49Speaker 3: Pete and who who is on the field if he's
- 34:52Speaker 3: not on the field? Agnew?
- 34:54Speaker 2: Tim Jones? Huh, Tim Jones are Agnew? Yeah?
- 34:57Speaker 3: And Tim Jones by the way, we'll block that he
- 35:00Speaker 3: does block, but need a you need another? Do you
- 35:05Speaker 3: explore that a veteran receiver? Maybe if Zay Jones is
- 35:09Speaker 3: hurt to the point where he can't go. Now, we
- 35:11Speaker 3: don't know that, but they got.
- 35:14Speaker 4: To check that.
- 35:14Speaker 3: I think they would know that, maybe have an idea
- 35:17Speaker 3: where he is, you know, now and tomorrow and then
- 35:20Speaker 3: if you can look around and see if you can
- 35:21Speaker 3: make a move for a wide receiver. Now, who's out
- 35:23Speaker 3: there that that remains to be seen. But you know,
- 35:26Speaker 3: you thought Hopkins might be out there. They would never
- 35:30Speaker 3: trade him to Jacksonville, but you thought he might be
- 35:32Speaker 3: out there. But he doesn't run that they need. They
- 35:36Speaker 3: need a speed guy. That's what they're lacking, you know,
- 35:39Speaker 3: that's what they're lacking.
- 35:40Speaker 2: And I mean, Zay is so good along the boundary.
- 35:42Speaker 2: He's already had two catches this year touchdowns that are
- 35:45Speaker 2: just incredible, the Colts game up there week one, where
- 35:48Speaker 2: he's on the side of the end zone and then
- 35:50Speaker 2: in the London game, the second London game in Buffalo,
- 35:53Speaker 2: the back of the end zone to tap it under
- 35:55Speaker 2: the crossbar. I mean, that's that kind of stuff you
- 35:57Speaker 2: don't find every day.
- 35:59Speaker 3: And they can use ingram more. I get it. I
- 36:02Speaker 3: understand that, but you still need that third receiver, and
- 36:06Speaker 3: I don't think what they have gives them a real
- 36:09Speaker 3: threat as a third receiver. You can gimmick up some
- 36:11Speaker 3: stuff for Agnew, but it's not a real threat.
- 36:14Speaker 2: There plenty more ahead. We'll come back in a moment, Pete.
- 36:17Speaker 2: We always do like the AFC South rankings, but considering
- 36:20Speaker 2: the Jags are what two and a half games ahead
- 36:22Speaker 2: of everybody right now, we're gonna do the AFC Power rankings.
- 36:26Speaker 3: Wow, we're really adjusting on the fly. Huh.
- 36:29Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going big. Yeah, that's really going out blazing
- 36:33Speaker 2: a trail here on this one. When we come back,
- 36:37Speaker 2: since I.
- 36:37Speaker 3: Do those every week at CBS.
- 36:39Speaker 2: We'll just copy years from the other day.
- 36:41Speaker 3: If I haven't ton them yet, we'll do it.
- 36:44Speaker 2: Right here first. As Pete Frisco, I'm JP Shadwick Tony
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- 37:18Speaker 7: As a as a competitor, you always look for something
- 37:20Speaker 7: to just motivate you to play a game, and I
- 37:23Speaker 7: still like for me, I just kind of went to
- 37:25Speaker 7: have a place to where flight the students could have
- 37:27Speaker 7: dropped me, they didn't, so I just wanted to come
- 37:29Speaker 7: out here first time in the stadium, just shown with
- 37:31Speaker 7: it was missing out on wine and just kind of
- 37:32Speaker 7: glad there and make place to win a game.
- 37:34Speaker 2: It's Travis et and Junior Jaguars running back selected one
- 37:40Speaker 2: pick after Naji Harris Steelers running back and it's Jaguars
- 37:44Speaker 2: Happy Hour. JP Shadwick with CBS Sports senior writer Pete
- 37:48Speaker 2: Prisco Tony BISSELLI will be back with us in just
- 37:51Speaker 2: a little bit. Love that kind of stuff.
- 37:53Speaker 3: See funny, it's funny how the chip these guys carry
- 37:56Speaker 3: these chips around, Right, they didn't pick me. I'm gonna
- 38:00Speaker 3: make him pay.
- 38:00Speaker 2: For it, you know, whatever it takes, right.
- 38:05Speaker 3: I mean, are you happy they didn't pick you? In
- 38:08Speaker 3: your playing in Jacksonville rather than in Pittsburgh. I mean
- 38:10Speaker 3: he should be right now.
- 38:13Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well not just that.
- 38:14Speaker 3: You get to live in Florida, you know, the state
- 38:16Speaker 3: income tax. You don't live in Pittsburgh. You live in Jacksonville.
- 38:20Speaker 2: Much better, big difference. It was like eighty two and
- 38:23Speaker 2: Sonny here all weekend. Nice.
- 38:25Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, absolutely, I think I think. Look, he's
- 38:30Speaker 3: having a phenomenal season.
- 38:31Speaker 2: He really is. Yeah, third in the league in rushing
- 38:34Speaker 2: yards now and number one and carry's still and up
- 38:37Speaker 2: there near the top in scrimmage yards and everything. He's
- 38:41Speaker 2: you know, he turned that ankle yesterday, but fought back
- 38:44Speaker 2: after the Bigsby fumbled, came back in the game after
- 38:47Speaker 2: that and finished it out.
- 38:49Speaker 3: He is the airback of airbacks. I mean, you know,
- 38:51Speaker 3: you want that guy who can line up and go
- 38:53Speaker 3: wide and catch a pass like he did. You want
- 38:55Speaker 3: a guy who can swing out of the backfield and
- 38:57Speaker 3: catch the screens like he does, and he can run
- 38:59Speaker 3: between tackles. I mean, he's he's perfect for the modern game,
- 39:02Speaker 3: which is exactly what you wanted when you drafted him.
- 39:05Speaker 3: And his value is great. He's not the most valuable
- 39:10Speaker 3: player on the team, the quarterback is, obviously, but he's
- 39:14Speaker 3: had a heck of an impact on this season so far.
- 39:17Speaker 2: He's a smart player too. I mean, he had to
- 39:20Speaker 2: work on some things this offseason to improve his game,
- 39:24Speaker 2: even before the snap and getting the football and everything
- 39:28Speaker 2: in his running style because he was getting blasted last
- 39:32Speaker 2: year Pete and just getting blown up all over the place.
- 39:34Speaker 3: Well remember he was really technically a rookie last year
- 39:37Speaker 3: playing He didn't he never played the game the year before,
- 39:40Speaker 3: so I think I think that was an adjustment for him.
- 39:43Speaker 3: But more than that, I just think his confidence is
- 39:48Speaker 3: there now. He knows he's good, you know, And and
- 39:51Speaker 3: when you start thinking you're good, you know you're good,
- 39:53Speaker 3: You're gonna be good. And I think that's what he
- 39:54Speaker 3: sees now, Bigsby, that's an issue.
- 39:58Speaker 2: It's not it's not ideal. I'll say it was an
- 40:00Speaker 2: issue early in the season. They kind of toned it
- 40:02Speaker 2: back a little bit, and they finally gave him a
- 40:04Speaker 2: chance again yesterday and and behold, it's on the ground
- 40:07Speaker 2: to get Now. It was a close call. However, it
- 40:09Speaker 2: was not overturned. It was a fumble and there you go.
- 40:12Speaker 3: Well, the other thing, he bounces too much. You know,
- 40:16Speaker 3: he's a big, physical guy. At some point you just
- 40:19Speaker 3: go and he has a tendency to Now, sometimes it works,
- 40:24Speaker 3: but he has a tendency to bounce too much and
- 40:26Speaker 3: maybe miss a four yard gain when he turns it
- 40:29Speaker 3: into a minus game, you know what I mean. He
- 40:31Speaker 3: gotta sometimes you just gotta go. And I think that's
- 40:34Speaker 3: the next step for him is learning how to just go.
- 40:37Speaker 2: Well, just go. You can't be putting the ball on
- 40:40Speaker 2: the deck anymore either. That's the number one issue.
- 40:42Speaker 3: And well, yeah, so security.
- 40:44Speaker 2: So where do you go from here at running back
- 40:47Speaker 2: behind etn If you can't trust Tank to hang on
- 40:50Speaker 2: to the football, which he can improve at it and
- 40:52Speaker 2: do all the things. But there's a nine game stretch
- 40:55Speaker 2: coming up where there's gonna be some big time carries
- 40:57Speaker 2: in big moments.
- 40:58Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're gonna need somebody to carry the football
- 41:01Speaker 3: because you can't give Etn all those carries. So you
- 41:03Speaker 3: got you got to decide what you're gonna do. I mean,
- 41:06Speaker 3: do you go to Johnson? I mean, is that is
- 41:08Speaker 3: that what you do? Do you make him number two?
- 41:11Speaker 2: I mean, there's the team to Michael Hasty's still here, right, Yeah.
- 41:16Speaker 3: You don't even he didn't even use him, right.
- 41:19Speaker 2: No, and Snoop Connors on the practice squad. But that doesn't.
- 41:22Speaker 3: Say that's not the answer either.
- 41:24Speaker 2: No. So, but think about what they've drafted at running
- 41:28Speaker 2: back the last few years, right, I mean Etn, Snoop
- 41:31Speaker 2: and now Tank three years in a row.
- 41:34Speaker 3: Yeah, they expected more from Tank at this point in
- 41:39Speaker 3: the season. They did. They thought he would be come in,
- 41:43Speaker 3: give him ten twelve carries or eleven, you know, ten
- 41:46Speaker 3: touch twelve touches and be a guy who can get
- 41:48Speaker 3: you short yardage numbers and that kind of thing. And
- 41:50Speaker 3: hadn't worked out that way. What's his what's his yards
- 41:53Speaker 3: per attempt on the ground JP for the season. Oh,
- 41:56Speaker 3: let's look it's not pretty.
- 41:58Speaker 2: Let's look at it. The Jacksonville Jaguars rushing statistics stand
- 42:03Speaker 2: by Tank bigsby two point three yards per carry.
- 42:07Speaker 3: Yeah, and granted it's not all him. The offensive line
- 42:10Speaker 3: hadn't been great at times run blocking. But that number
- 42:13Speaker 3: meets significantly.
- 42:14Speaker 2: Small sample size. Twenty three carries fifty four yards. He
- 42:17Speaker 2: scored too, Okay, it.
- 42:18Speaker 3: Should be twenty three for seventy five. If it's a
- 42:21Speaker 3: bad you know what I mean, that's it's not good.
- 42:24Speaker 3: And again, sometimes you just got to hit the hole
- 42:27Speaker 3: and go. He doesn't do that. And he bounded. He
- 42:30Speaker 3: was He's a bouncer. That was a reputation at Auburn
- 42:32Speaker 3: is he was a bouncer. So and he's too big
- 42:35Speaker 3: and physical to be a bouncer all the time.
- 42:38Speaker 2: Let's take a look at the AFC standings, Yes, the
- 42:41Speaker 2: conference standings, because the Jaguars are so far out in
- 42:44Speaker 2: front right now, knock on wood in the AFC South
- 42:48Speaker 2: that we look even to bigger fish to fry and Kansas.
- 42:51Speaker 3: Are you printing playoff tickets already? JP?
- 42:54Speaker 2: That would mean they have the home field if we are, Yeah,
- 42:56Speaker 2: that would be nice. Yeah they are not. No, However,
- 43:01Speaker 2: six and two is a fine start. Let's put it
- 43:03Speaker 2: that way.
- 43:04Speaker 3: Well, they would be they would have a home playoff.
- 43:05Speaker 2: Game as a division champ. Correct. So right now, Kansas
- 43:10Speaker 2: City at six and two. They lost to Denver. They
- 43:13Speaker 2: are four and one on the conference. Miami six and two,
- 43:16Speaker 2: also for and one on the conference, but a smaller
- 43:18Speaker 2: strength of victory and wins. Jacksonville three at six and two,
- 43:23Speaker 2: at four and two in the conference, Baltimore six and
- 43:25Speaker 2: two as well. So give us your AFC power rankings,
- 43:29Speaker 2: if you would please, mister Prisco, I.
- 43:33Speaker 3: Would still, you know, that's tough. Baltimore would probably be
- 43:40Speaker 3: in the head of Kansas City right now for me,
- 43:42Speaker 3: after what happened yesterday.
- 43:44Speaker 2: He had the flu. Pete didn't he have the flu?
- 43:47Speaker 3: Mahomes, you're on the field, you're accountable. The rest of
- 43:51Speaker 3: the team didn't have the flu. They didn't play very well.
- 43:54Speaker 3: Takes eleven and so I put Baltimore at one. I'd
- 43:57Speaker 3: probably put I might put Jacksonville at two, even though
- 44:00Speaker 3: Kansas City beat them, and then Kansas City at three,
- 44:04Speaker 3: and then or Miami at three and then Kansas City
- 44:09Speaker 3: maybe somewhere along those lines. And there's certain teams you
- 44:14Speaker 3: got to keep an eye on. And two of them
- 44:15Speaker 3: play each other this week. The Bengals, who have seemed
- 44:19Speaker 3: to have righted things, they played Buffalo at home this week.
- 44:24Speaker 3: That's an enormous game in the AOC. Then there's Miami
- 44:29Speaker 3: and Kansas City this week. That's an enormous game in
- 44:32Speaker 3: the APES. And then Baltimore plays Seattle, which is a
- 44:36Speaker 3: good game. So everybody, Jackson was gonna sit back and
- 44:39Speaker 3: watch all these AFC teams play important games this week,
- 44:45Speaker 3: and they could come out of it. Just say, Seattle one, well,
- 44:49Speaker 3: Kansas City Miami winner will be ahead of them, and
- 44:52Speaker 3: then and then Baltimore lost, or Seattle be Baltimore, And
- 44:56Speaker 3: then see Cincinnati and Buffalo. One of those teams is
- 45:01Speaker 3: going to get hot, really hot, and end up being
- 45:04Speaker 3: a dangerous playoff team, no matter what.
- 45:07Speaker 2: It might be. Cincinnati the way they're starting to warm
- 45:10Speaker 2: up with Burrow. Now, now, the Bills did sign Leonard Fournett.
- 45:12Speaker 2: Is that doing anything for you?
- 45:15Speaker 3: Uh?
- 45:15Speaker 2: No? Playoff Lenny, Come on, man, I.
- 45:17Speaker 3: Mean, what's the difference between him and Latavious Murray? I mean,
- 45:21Speaker 3: you know what I mean. They're just hand the ball
- 45:22Speaker 3: off and watch two big guys go. I mean, it
- 45:25Speaker 3: just doesn't. I don't think they run the ball enough
- 45:28Speaker 3: as it is, you have enough. There's not enough carries
- 45:30Speaker 3: for Latavious Murray, Letter Fournette and Cook.
- 45:34Speaker 2: So it's good to be in this kind of company
- 45:37Speaker 2: for the Jaguars, certainly at the midway point and then
- 45:39Speaker 2: the byeway coming up. Hey, quickly your thoughts on week ten? Could?
- 45:43Speaker 2: I mean, they got to decide by tomorrow.
- 45:45Speaker 3: They will flex it?
- 45:46Speaker 2: Will they won't?
- 45:47Speaker 3: It's no because who's in that tenant? Who's in that
- 45:50Speaker 3: Monday Nike Jetsunday Nike the Jet yet the Jets in
- 45:53Speaker 3: New York market against who the Raiders?
- 45:55Speaker 2: Raiders.
- 45:56Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they're flexing it because all you
- 45:58Speaker 3: ever hear about is the Jets, Jet Jets, Jet Jets, Jets, Jets,
- 46:02Speaker 3: and the Jets play the Chargers this week, though, don't
- 46:05Speaker 3: they That's right? That could be a loss. So they're
- 46:10Speaker 3: gambling with that a little bit. They are, Absolutely, I
- 46:13Speaker 3: don't do you see them flexing.
- 46:16Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but it's the it's two of the
- 46:20Speaker 2: hottest teams loss. Yeah, the four nine ers have lost.
- 46:24Speaker 2: That's that's taken a little bit of the steam out
- 46:26Speaker 2: of that argument.
- 46:27Speaker 3: Off this week though?
- 46:28Speaker 2: Are they are? Both teams are off this week?
- 46:30Speaker 3: So okay, So you got a team that's lost three
- 46:33Speaker 3: in a row against the small market team at their place.
- 46:38Speaker 3: I can't imagine they'll flex that game. No, I'll say no,
- 46:42Speaker 3: even the four. But I'll say no.
- 46:44Speaker 2: Could they go to four o'clock? Do I hear four?
- 46:47Speaker 3: That could happen.
- 46:50Speaker 2: We'll see. Hey, we'll come back in a moment, and
- 46:53Speaker 2: the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour is dead ahead.
- 46:55Speaker 2: We will have the fanatics, fan questions. We'll keep it real,
- 46:59Speaker 2: and we may or may not here again from Tony Biselli.
- 47:02Speaker 2: I have no idea he's somewhere in San Francisco. This
- 47:07Speaker 2: is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.
- 47:26Speaker 6: We've just been so caught up in our process and
- 47:29Speaker 6: every week turning the page and just finding a way
- 47:32Speaker 6: when Sunday comes, whether we play great, we don't play great.
- 47:36Speaker 6: You know, we have turnovers, we play clean, whatever it is,
- 47:38Speaker 6: just how can we find a way to win the game,
- 47:40Speaker 6: and whether that's our defense picking us up when we
- 47:42Speaker 6: need it after a turnover, whether that's us going and
- 47:44Speaker 6: scoring after the defense gives up a.
- 47:46Speaker 2: Touchdown and it doesn't matter.
- 47:47Speaker 6: And I think that mindset has given us a lot
- 47:49Speaker 6: of confidence because we've seen ourselves win these tight games
- 47:53Speaker 6: when the games that aren't clean, and we've won games
- 47:55Speaker 6: where we've been behind.
- 47:56Speaker 2: You know, we've found a way to win.
- 47:58Speaker 6: Last week in New Orleans, you know when they they
- 48:00Speaker 6: tied it up and we had a big touchdown and
- 48:01Speaker 6: we got to stop on defense. So all those things
- 48:04Speaker 6: just you know, pile on top of each other and
- 48:06Speaker 6: build a lot of confidence in a team. And we
- 48:08Speaker 6: got to keep playing with that and clean up some
- 48:10Speaker 6: of the mistakes like always.
- 48:11Speaker 2: But I love where we're at right now. That is
- 48:14Speaker 2: the quarterback, of course, Trevor Lawrence after the game in
- 48:17Speaker 2: Pittsburgh yesterday, a twenty to ten win over the Steelers,
- 48:20Speaker 2: and welcome back. It's our number two of Jaguars Happy
- 48:24Speaker 2: Hour and the second Hour presented by mister Chubby's Wings
- 48:28Speaker 2: j P, Shadrick Pete Prisco, Tony Biselli coming up in
- 48:31Speaker 2: a little bit. The Jaguars winning their fifth consecutive game,
- 48:34Speaker 2: five stadiums, four cities, including four of the five opponents
- 48:37Speaker 2: with a five hundred or better record at this point,
- 48:40Speaker 2: the defense leading the way again stuffing the run, playing
- 48:43Speaker 2: well against Pickett two takeaways. They continue to lead the
- 48:46Speaker 2: league in takeaways so far this season. Lawrence threw a
- 48:50Speaker 2: goal to go interception, but later in the game hit
- 48:53Speaker 2: Etn for a touchdown, a long one to put the
- 48:55Speaker 2: Jags up two scores. And now the Jaguars are on
- 48:58Speaker 2: the NFL's longest active winnings, tied for the best record
- 49:01Speaker 2: in the AFC headed into the Week nine bye week,
- 49:04Speaker 2: Hey in the Jaguars defense leading the way. Doug Peterson
- 49:08Speaker 2: spreading the credit around on that side.
- 49:10Speaker 4: Credit Mike Caldwell.
- 49:12Speaker 5: You know, great, great game plans, the defensive coaches, you know,
- 49:16Speaker 5: preparing their players. There's a there's a mindset over there.
- 49:18Speaker 5: Now there's confidence over there, you know.
- 49:21Speaker 2: And and.
- 49:23Speaker 5: You know when you keep when you keep things really
- 49:26Speaker 5: uh simple, and you got the same calls, and the
- 49:29Speaker 5: guys understand the defense and and the way they work
- 49:31Speaker 5: during the week, I mean everything, everything just translates to
- 49:35Speaker 5: to what you see in you know, on game day.
- 49:36Speaker 2: And and it's.
- 49:38Speaker 5: A credit to them because defense is really in my opinion,
- 49:42Speaker 5: they've really kept the offense in these football games, you know,
- 49:44Speaker 5: and and and then and then until the offense can
- 49:47Speaker 5: can kind of break out and score, you know, score
- 49:50Speaker 5: a touchdown.
- 49:51Speaker 2: You have it. The head coach Doug Peterson after the
- 49:53Speaker 2: game yesterday, we welcome back Pete Prisco, CBS Sports Senior writer.
- 49:57Speaker 2: And you know, in this in this streak, Pece, the
- 50:00Speaker 2: Jaguars have trailed for a total of seven minutes ten seconds.
- 50:07Speaker 2: The entire time they have not trailed, but only that
- 50:11Speaker 2: into the first quarter against the Indianapolis Colts when they
- 50:14Speaker 2: trailed three nothing. That's been it.
- 50:17Speaker 3: Yeah, and they haven't played that well. That's the amazing
- 50:21Speaker 3: thing to me. I mean, they just haven't offensively, they
- 50:26Speaker 3: haven't played that well. And it's coming. It's going to
- 50:30Speaker 3: be there. It's going to be special. You know, before
- 50:33Speaker 3: the season, JP, I thought Trevor Larns would throw thirty
- 50:38Speaker 3: seven touchdown passes for close to five thousand yards and
- 50:43Speaker 3: they would light up the sky. Yeah, well, what are
- 50:46Speaker 3: we eight games in? Is that right?
- 50:47Speaker 4: So?
- 50:48Speaker 3: How many how many yards does he.
- 50:50Speaker 2: App Trevor Lawrence so far in the twenty twenty three
- 50:55Speaker 2: season has that many yards nineteen hundred and thirty five.
- 51:01Speaker 3: That that ain't gonna get near five thousand.
- 51:04Speaker 2: I mean he's not even quite halfway, because there's no
- 51:07Speaker 2: true half anymore. But yeah, that's four. He's on pace
- 51:11Speaker 2: for fourth.
- 51:11Speaker 3: Four and eighteen touchdowns. That's not That's not what I expected,
- 51:15Speaker 3: which is why I think when they come off the buy,
- 51:19Speaker 3: he's gonna have more like eighteen touchdowns in the second half,
- 51:27Speaker 3: and he's gonna throw for more yards. How many times?
- 51:29Speaker 3: How many times has he been over three hundred yards
- 51:31Speaker 3: this year?
- 51:32Speaker 2: Let's look at the passing for the Jaguars. Three hundred
- 51:36Speaker 2: yard games one time against Buffalo.
- 51:42Speaker 3: And that's a number that I thought would be almost
- 51:45Speaker 3: every week.
- 51:46Speaker 2: He's been close. He was. He was two ninety two
- 51:49Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh and he was two seventy nine against Houston
- 51:51Speaker 2: and they were getting blown out. Right.
- 51:54Speaker 3: It's just it hasn't been the offense. Now, across the board,
- 51:59Speaker 3: offense to have struggled in the NFL. Scoring is down.
- 52:03Speaker 3: It's not just in Jacksonville, it's everywhere, and it's just
- 52:07Speaker 3: not But it's not what I thought it would be.
- 52:10Speaker 3: Watched the Chargers. You watch the Chargers last night. Now,
- 52:12Speaker 3: it's a bad Bears team, but the way they came
- 52:15Speaker 3: out threw it around early. He was what fifteen or
- 52:18Speaker 3: fifteen or whatever it was, they couldn't stop them. They
- 52:21Speaker 3: did whatever they wanted to. It was twenty four or
- 52:23Speaker 3: what seven that they half. That's what I thought Jacksonville
- 52:26Speaker 3: would be. And I think the play calling has been
- 52:29Speaker 3: impacted by the interior, the offensive line which is impacted
- 52:32Speaker 3: and sped up Trevor Lawrence, and that's why they haven't
- 52:34Speaker 3: been that good.
- 52:35Speaker 2: If they get that sorted, the interior line was healthy, right, and.
- 52:41Speaker 3: Then I and Jay Jones comes back.
- 52:45Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the other That was my next point, Like,
- 52:47Speaker 2: if Zay is not right, let's just say it's not
- 52:51Speaker 2: it's not firing or whatever is going on. How do
- 52:54Speaker 2: they overcome that? How do they make changes on offense
- 52:59Speaker 2: and to make that hum again, well.
- 53:03Speaker 3: I don't think they have the receiver to do it.
- 53:06Speaker 3: You know. If they don't, if they don't have Zay Jones,
- 53:08Speaker 3: they have to either do one or two things. Either
- 53:10Speaker 3: look to go get somebody tomorrow or or you know,
- 53:17Speaker 3: hope like heck, you can scheme around it with guys
- 53:20Speaker 3: like Evan Ingram and getting Strange involved in the passing
- 53:23Speaker 3: game more, because when you only have two, it changes
- 53:27Speaker 3: the way you play. Now they play a lot of
- 53:29Speaker 3: snaps with extra tight ends on the field. They run
- 53:32Speaker 3: the ball with a lot of extra dight I mean,
- 53:33Speaker 3: and they throw the ball with a lot of extra
- 53:36Speaker 3: tight ends on the field. I mean, look at the
- 53:38Speaker 3: snapcounts for the two tight ends yesterday. Yea, the two
- 53:41Speaker 3: top tight.
- 53:41Speaker 2: Ends, right, absolutely, I bet they're Yeah. Ingram was fifty six.
- 53:46Speaker 2: That's seventy nine percent of the snaps. Farrell was out
- 53:50Speaker 2: there for thirty three snaps, and the Strange had twenty
- 53:52Speaker 2: nine snaps. There were seventy one snaps in the game.
- 53:55Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so they're using a lot of tight
- 53:58Speaker 3: end snaps and.
- 54:00Speaker 2: Well, now it was yesterday the day for that, because
- 54:02Speaker 2: of the weather and the setup and the defense they're playing.
- 54:04Speaker 3: That's fine, But if you use those snaps for those
- 54:07Speaker 3: tight ends, what you're gonna end up doing is morphing
- 54:11Speaker 3: Ingram into more of a receiver, even more than he's
- 54:13Speaker 3: been if you don't have Za Jones. But the Za
- 54:19Speaker 3: Jones speed is what they will miss. That's what you
- 54:22Speaker 3: can't replicate. So maybe you could call the Giants and
- 54:25Speaker 3: try and find one of their speed receivers. Clearly the
- 54:29Speaker 3: Giants are in We're gonna have a fire sale mode.
- 54:32Speaker 3: They traded Leonard Williams today, So maybe they'll you could
- 54:36Speaker 3: call a guy like Darius Slayton who can run, by
- 54:39Speaker 3: the way, not a great receiver, but he can run
- 54:42Speaker 3: and scare some people down the field.
- 54:44Speaker 2: Tony VASSELLI back with us now, Hall of Fame left
- 54:47Speaker 2: tackle and we're talking trade deadline coming up of course
- 54:50Speaker 2: tomorrow four o'clock Tony, And the idea, if Zay is
- 54:54Speaker 2: not right for whatever reason, do you go make a
- 54:56Speaker 2: move at receiver?
- 54:59Speaker 4: Well, I mean I think you're I mean, it depends
- 55:00Speaker 4: on what I mean. Yeah, I mean, there's always positions
- 55:04Speaker 4: you can fill. But the reality is that that you're
- 55:07Speaker 4: you have limited draft capital next year because of the
- 55:12Speaker 4: because of the Calvin Ridley deal.
- 55:14Speaker 3: Ye, and so the two three and four, but the
- 55:16Speaker 3: two three and four are all tied.
- 55:17Speaker 4: Up to it, that's my point. They're all tied up.
- 55:19Speaker 4: So you have limited ability to go make any trades
- 55:24Speaker 4: unless you're gonna unless you get someone for a fifth,
- 55:27Speaker 4: six or seventh, which you're gonna have a lower you know,
- 55:31Speaker 4: maybe a down the line receiver possibly you could get,
- 55:36Speaker 4: but you know, are you gonna be able to get
- 55:38Speaker 4: one of those pass rushers for a fifth sixth seventh. No,
- 55:40Speaker 4: I don't think so. So then you have to start thinking,
- 55:43Speaker 4: can you trade a twenty five two or three or
- 55:47Speaker 4: four which has less value?
- 55:49Speaker 3: So I do think that you gotta think this too, Tony.
- 55:52Speaker 3: If I'm the Vikings and I keep to Neil Hunter
- 55:56Speaker 3: without getting anything for him, if he leaves via three agency,
- 55:58Speaker 3: at least I'm getting a three for him. So you
- 56:00Speaker 3: got to get at least a three.
- 56:02Speaker 4: Yeah, but Pete, you can't. I mean, are they going
- 56:04Speaker 4: to take a three and twenty five?
- 56:08Speaker 3: Well, but I'm saying if you're why would you trade
- 56:10Speaker 3: them if you're not going to get a three? And
- 56:12Speaker 3: Jaffares are kind of handcuffed by that because they can't
- 56:14Speaker 3: give them a three.
- 56:15Speaker 4: No, I think we're saying the same thing, Pete. I
- 56:17Speaker 4: think they're limited in what they actually can do.
- 56:22Speaker 3: Just a decision. By the way, you kind of restricted yourself.
- 56:25Speaker 4: Well a second, you were all for the Calvin Well.
- 56:28Speaker 3: For the really trade. But did you have to tie
- 56:30Speaker 3: tie every draft pick to it. You could have just
- 56:32Speaker 3: tried tied one to it, couldn't you, Pete?
- 56:37Speaker 4: I I love your like revisionist history. You were one
- 56:40Speaker 4: of the people thinking to say what a great trade,
- 56:42Speaker 4: great trade, great trade, great trade.
- 56:43Speaker 3: But then you look at it. But you look at
- 56:44Speaker 3: it on the surface and it sounded like great trade.
- 56:46Speaker 3: But when you when you're in a position to make
- 56:48Speaker 3: a move and you can't because you don't have any
- 56:50Speaker 3: availability in the draft pick, that's not necessarily a great thing,
- 56:53Speaker 3: is it. And I don't know if that's I've looked
- 56:56Speaker 3: it up and I've tried to find out. But the two, three,
- 56:59Speaker 3: and four are all top to some condition involving in
- 57:01Speaker 3: the trade they are, so they are not available to anybody.
- 57:07Speaker 4: That's my understanding, Pete. But I'm not an expert in this.
- 57:10Speaker 4: But my understanding is I mean, I guess you could
- 57:13Speaker 4: traders too, because you but at that point you're basically
- 57:17Speaker 4: saying we cannot sign Ridley to a new deal.
- 57:20Speaker 3: Which is something that I don't think you can determine
- 57:23Speaker 3: that right now.
- 57:24Speaker 4: Well you just say he's a free agent that you
- 57:26Speaker 4: don't sign it, like you.
- 57:27Speaker 3: Are saying, but for your good or your football team,
- 57:30Speaker 3: what if he goes out the rest of the way
- 57:32Speaker 3: and has.
- 57:34Speaker 4: No I agree with you, you can't do that. But
- 57:38Speaker 4: so I think, I mean, the only chance the Jaguars
- 57:41Speaker 4: have to go get it to Neil Hunter or someone else.
- 57:44Speaker 4: There's two paths there, you know, Montez Sweat to heck
- 57:50Speaker 4: of a player, and he's younger. How old is Daniel Hunter.
- 57:53Speaker 3: I don't think he's that old. I think he's.
- 58:00Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's a little bit older. But Montes Sweat,
- 58:04Speaker 4: I believe, is like twenty six twenty seven, if I'm
- 58:07Speaker 4: not mistaken. I mean, the only thing is twenty four
- 58:12Speaker 4: twenty four. But how's he playing this year?
- 58:14Speaker 3: I worry about it, kay, I worry about okay, But
- 58:16Speaker 3: you're right, durability is a concern. He's a better player
- 58:19Speaker 3: than Montes Sweat when he's on the field, but Montes
- 58:22Speaker 3: Sweat shows up every week.
- 58:23Speaker 2: Sweat's twenty seven, by the way, twenty seven years old
- 58:25Speaker 2: for Sweat.
- 58:26Speaker 4: I mean, Pete, would you give? The only chance you
- 58:28Speaker 4: have is do you give a one for either of
- 58:30Speaker 4: those guys?
- 58:32Speaker 3: Well, if you're good as you think you're gonna be,
- 58:35Speaker 3: it's not it's going to be a late one. But
- 58:36Speaker 3: but here's you're renting them for a one. You're not
- 58:38Speaker 3: gonna be able to pay him. That's the problem.
- 58:41Speaker 4: Well, that's that's my point. If you're gonna give a
- 58:43Speaker 4: one up a late one. Let's say, then you have
- 58:46Speaker 4: to say, can we do we have the cap room
- 58:49Speaker 4: to sign Josh Allen and Daniel Hunter or Montes Sweat
- 58:53Speaker 4: and then give Trevor Lawrence fifty million or.
- 58:58Speaker 3: The other side of that is this. You're six and two,
- 59:03Speaker 3: You're obviously gonna win. It's clear. It looks like they're
- 59:06Speaker 3: gonna win a division at least. I think that way.
- 59:09Speaker 3: You're gonna be a playoff team. You're good enough. You
- 59:12Speaker 3: haven't even come close to clicking on offense yet, so
- 59:15Speaker 3: why not go for it? Go for it. You go
- 59:19Speaker 3: for the go for the go for the ring. Who
- 59:21Speaker 3: you can worry about the cap ramifications next year. Go
- 59:23Speaker 3: for the damn ring. Because if they get another edge rusher,
- 59:27Speaker 3: the way the secondary has been playing Tony and we
- 59:29Speaker 3: were all we me and JP talked about this earlier.
- 59:31Speaker 3: We were all wrong about the secondary. They've exceeded expectations
- 59:34Speaker 3: in a big way. So go get another edge rusher
- 59:36Speaker 3: and go for it.
- 59:38Speaker 4: So you'd give up a one for about it?
- 59:41Speaker 3: I think about it.
- 59:42Speaker 4: Who would you take?
- 59:46Speaker 3: I take Daniel Hunter?
- 59:47Speaker 4: I would do.
- 59:48Speaker 2: Then you'd have the number one and two sack artists
- 59:51Speaker 2: in the league.
- 59:52Speaker 3: This ye, go ahead, and you got the number you
- 59:54Speaker 3: got the third run third rank run defense, the number
- 59:56Speaker 3: one and number two sack guys, and the secondary that's
- 59:58Speaker 3: over chieves and linebackers who can or playing their best
- 1:00:01Speaker 3: football they've played since they've been in Jacksonville. Go ahead,
- 1:00:04Speaker 3: go for it. And then you get the other side
- 1:00:06Speaker 3: of the coin. The offense hasn't come close to being
- 1:00:09Speaker 3: what it will be, not even close, and and they're
- 1:00:12Speaker 3: still winning games. So yeah, Now the concern is Zay Jones, Tony,
- 1:00:17Speaker 3: that's a concern. You know, what if he's not there,
- 1:00:20Speaker 3: what do you do you have to you know, if
- 1:00:21Speaker 3: there's a lingering issue with him, you need to find
- 1:00:24Speaker 3: another receiver somehow, Someway.
- 1:00:27Speaker 4: Yeah, but what was it? And I haven't paid attention
- 1:00:29Speaker 4: as much to the receiver receiving situation out there, Pete.
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: It's not a lot out there.
- 1:00:34Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't think you're gonna get much.
- 1:00:42Speaker 3: I mean I don't you could get is like somebody. Okay,
- 1:00:45Speaker 3: I'll give you an example, Washington. If they Washington's having
- 1:00:48Speaker 3: a fire sale, you're not gonna go get McLaurin, clearly.
- 1:00:51Speaker 3: But what about Tammie Brown who can run? He hasn't
- 1:00:55Speaker 3: probably been as good as expected. But he can run.
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: He can fly. That's what they need. He needs somebody
- 1:01:00Speaker 3: who can run to replace A Jones. If you don't
- 1:01:02Speaker 3: have z A Jones because you can't, you would agree
- 1:01:05Speaker 3: with this. If A Jones is there, they can't play
- 1:01:08Speaker 3: with Agnew as your number three receiver, well.
- 1:01:11Speaker 4: They haven't for whatever reason, So there's something there. I
- 1:01:15Speaker 4: mean they did not roll Agnew out. I mean Tim
- 1:01:19Speaker 4: Jones was the third receiver, right.
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: Tim Jones is a good block I told him he's
- 1:01:23Speaker 3: a good blocker.
- 1:01:24Speaker 4: Tim Jones, Yeah, I mean I'm not.
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: I mean Darius Slayton for the Giants another time.
- 1:01:33Speaker 4: Can you get for a fifth rounder, because that's all
- 1:01:35Speaker 4: you have, that's not probably what you could get. I
- 1:01:38Speaker 4: would look at it. But I'm intrigued, Pete, because I
- 1:01:41Speaker 4: was one hundred percent. Now is there anything you could do? Pete?
- 1:01:45Speaker 4: And I'm not I've looked at our cap situation. Could
- 1:01:48Speaker 4: you let's say you go get the nail Hunter for
- 1:01:50Speaker 4: one and danil Hunter and Josh Allen end up one
- 1:01:55Speaker 4: and two in the sacks, you know, sixteen and fifteen
- 1:01:58Speaker 4: for the year. Could you sign both to twenty five million?
- 1:02:03Speaker 4: Dollar deals, hold off a year on Trevor and then
- 1:02:07Speaker 4: pay wait to pay Trivor the next year.
- 1:02:10Speaker 3: It might be tough to do, but you there's ways
- 1:02:13Speaker 3: to get it. I mean, look, we've played the cap
- 1:02:15Speaker 3: game before. He can go, he can go, he can go,
- 1:02:17Speaker 3: and you could fit anybody in you want to. I
- 1:02:20Speaker 3: just think in this scenario, if you get Daniel Hunter
- 1:02:25Speaker 3: to go with Josh Allen and you have that quarterback
- 1:02:28Speaker 3: at that offense which hasn't clicked yet, you're going for it,
- 1:02:31Speaker 3: go for it. How many times are you going to
- 1:02:34Speaker 3: be in this situation where you can go for it?
- 1:02:36Speaker 3: Go for it?
- 1:02:37Speaker 4: And by the way, if you win it all that
- 1:02:40Speaker 4: first rounder is the number thirty two pick, and it's
- 1:02:43Speaker 4: really you know, like a second.
- 1:02:45Speaker 3: Rounder, right So I yeah, I mean so you're you're
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: you would give up the one for Denial Hunter. You're
- 1:02:52Speaker 3: giving it up. You're giving it up. Pacelli's given up
- 1:02:54Speaker 3: the one.
- 1:02:56Speaker 4: I'm starting to work that way.
- 1:02:58Speaker 3: I I am, I give it up. I'd give him
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: the one. Hey, dude, do you see that day to
- 1:03:04Speaker 3: go get Leonard Williams. Okay, they think they're gonna be
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: a playoff team. They're making a push that's they give
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: up what a two and a it was a two
- 1:03:12Speaker 3: and a four. I think, yeah, so get okay, give
- 1:03:15Speaker 3: up a two and of four.
- 1:03:17Speaker 4: You don't you don't have a two to give up.
- 1:03:19Speaker 3: Maybe they'll take the future. Maybe they'll take twenty twenty
- 1:03:22Speaker 3: five too.
- 1:03:23Speaker 4: I maybe. I mean, if you can go give a
- 1:03:25Speaker 4: two and a three and twenty five, get rid of
- 1:03:26Speaker 4: those two, I mean, I don't know.
- 1:03:28Speaker 3: I would, I would go for it. I think.
- 1:03:30Speaker 4: I think.
- 1:03:31Speaker 3: I think if you have Josh Allen on one side,
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: and you have Dneil Hunter on the other, and treybon
- 1:03:35Speaker 3: Walker can move inside and play in there, and you
- 1:03:37Speaker 3: could get guys like smooth slides inside he did it,
- 1:03:40Speaker 3: they could all of a sudden, the quarterback's gonna.
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: Go Oh oh my, I thought.
- 1:03:45Speaker 4: And I thought, now you know we're talking about, you know,
- 1:03:48Speaker 4: bringing in a passer shirt. And I didn't watch the tape,
- 1:03:51Speaker 4: but watching it live, I thought Trey Bond was.
- 1:03:53Speaker 3: Better, better, much better.
- 1:03:56Speaker 4: I mean, he's always good against the run, but I
- 1:03:57Speaker 4: thought he was bad like he had like those early
- 1:03:59Speaker 4: pastors against okafor We're good.
- 1:04:02Speaker 3: Well, he ran the one, he ran right through him
- 1:04:04Speaker 3: like he always does. Then he had another one where
- 1:04:07Speaker 3: he slid inside of him with a move inside of him.
- 1:04:10Speaker 3: I mean, there weren't a lot of them, but it
- 1:04:12Speaker 3: was better. Yes, But again, why not have three? Why
- 1:04:17Speaker 3: not have three?
- 1:04:18Speaker 4: Go ast to the New York Giants. How having three
- 1:04:20Speaker 4: pass rushers worked out for them against the Patriots?
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: Correct, Well, let's come back. We're gonna keep it real
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: when we return. And I think we just did. We
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- 1:05:11Speaker 6: Yeah I knew, you know, it was just a bad
- 1:05:13Speaker 6: play by me. You know, that wasn't the look, It
- 1:05:15Speaker 6: wasn't the coverage, the look that we wanted for that play.
- 1:05:18Speaker 6: And you know when I got to the top of
- 1:05:20Speaker 6: my drop and I saw one and two weren't open.
- 1:05:24Speaker 6: I should have just thrown it out of the back
- 1:05:25Speaker 6: of the end zone I think it was. I think
- 1:05:27Speaker 6: it was was at first first and five from the
- 1:05:29Speaker 6: five or something like that. I just should have thrown
- 1:05:31Speaker 6: it away right away, but I kind of scrambled and
- 1:05:33Speaker 6: then tried to throw one late to Calvin in the
- 1:05:35Speaker 6: back of the end zone and it's kind of double
- 1:05:37Speaker 6: covered there. So that's one that I know better, and
- 1:05:41Speaker 6: just in that moment, tried to do too much.
- 1:05:44Speaker 2: There's a quarterback of course, on his interception goal to
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: go first and goal with the six and welcome back.
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- 1:06:26Speaker 2: don't know if I'm going to be able to get
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: out there. I'm gonna try to though.
- 1:06:29Speaker 4: Yeah, we need to figure that out, JP, because I'm
- 1:06:32Speaker 4: gonna do my first hit out there. Maybe you can
- 1:06:34Speaker 4: come join me, maybe you can MC it. Maybe we
- 1:06:36Speaker 4: have to figure something out.
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because I'm on eleven for pregame on
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- 1:06:44Speaker 2: So then maybe maybe before that.
- 1:06:47Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely.
- 1:06:48Speaker 3: By the way, JP, he's a Hall of famer. Everybody
- 1:06:52Speaker 3: knows how to spell Beselli. What are you kidding me?
- 1:06:54Speaker 3: Everybody make you know. It used to be is a
- 1:06:57Speaker 3: little Jagson, little guy eight, This Tony Boselli, but now
- 1:07:02Speaker 3: he has the gold jacket. Price went up. People know
- 1:07:06Speaker 3: him now. Let me come on.
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people write in the checks now,
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: so they have to write that name on there too.
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: That's right.
- 1:07:13Speaker 4: Yeah, let's move on. Bitter real.
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: We are keeping it real percented by wood Bridge by
- 1:07:21Speaker 2: Robert mndave opened up a winner today really increading it's
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: award winning line by Robert Mundavi and it has to
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: do with the intended receiver on that interception in the
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: end zone. Calvin Ridley so far fifty eight targets for
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: the season, thirty three receptions, four hundred and fifty one yards,
- 1:07:38Speaker 2: two touchdowns. His best outings were Week one at Indy,
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: the first half especially, but he went over one hundred
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: in that game with a touchdown, and then against Buffalo
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: and London seven for one twenty two in that game.
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: His other touchdown came against Atlanta, of course, his former team.
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: So what is your opinion so far of Ridley's performance
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: this season and and what what else can they get
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: out of him this year?
- 1:08:07Speaker 4: I would say his numbers are lower than I thought,
- 1:08:11Speaker 4: but I think his contribution as far as overall and
- 1:08:16Speaker 4: how he has fit in to this team has been
- 1:08:19Speaker 4: great because you always worry, you don't know, you know.
- 1:08:23Speaker 4: They had a really good, uh kind of camaraderie culture
- 1:08:28Speaker 4: whatever you want to talk about, between the quarterback the receivers.
- 1:08:31Speaker 4: There was no one who really complained about whether they
- 1:08:34Speaker 4: got the ball or not. It was a pretty which
- 1:08:36Speaker 4: is by the way, pretty unique in the NFL. Yeah,
- 1:08:39Speaker 4: and uh, and you wondered what would it what would
- 1:08:43Speaker 4: happen with Calvin coming in and being you know, especially
- 1:08:45Speaker 4: in the offseason when everyone's like he's the man, he's
- 1:08:48Speaker 4: the man, he's the man, number one receiver, our local
- 1:08:51Speaker 4: media losing their brains about, you know, greatest thing you
- 1:08:55Speaker 4: know ever. And he's a very good player, and I'm
- 1:08:58Speaker 4: so happy he's on our team. I'm really impressive of
- 1:09:01Speaker 4: how he's handled probably not having the numbers he expected
- 1:09:05Speaker 4: or what we're projected, because he's a great team guy,
- 1:09:09Speaker 4: plays his tail off. He has not complained one bit,
- 1:09:14Speaker 4: has owned it when he had the bad game against Houston.
- 1:09:17Speaker 4: I mean, I've been super impressed with him. I think
- 1:09:19Speaker 4: he's been a very great addition to this team. Even
- 1:09:24Speaker 4: if the numbers are less than we thought they would be.
- 1:09:27Speaker 3: Would agree with you one hundred percent. Then he's handled
- 1:09:29Speaker 3: himself like a pro. I expected that though I heard
- 1:09:33Speaker 3: nothing but good things from people in Atlanta about him,
- 1:09:35Speaker 3: and Julio Jones kind of mendered him when he was there.
- 1:09:38Speaker 3: And Julio Jones is a pros pro. So and even
- 1:09:41Speaker 3: if he doesn't practice all the time, he's a pros pro.
- 1:09:44Speaker 3: But I am disappointed in the production so far from
- 1:09:48Speaker 3: my standpoint, but I've said that earlier before you came
- 1:09:51Speaker 3: back on Tony. I don't think the offense is quite
- 1:09:54Speaker 3: where it is going to be, and therefore I don't
- 1:09:57Speaker 3: think his numbers are where they're going to be. I
- 1:10:00Speaker 3: thought Trevor Lawrence was gonna throw thirty five to thirty
- 1:10:03Speaker 3: seven thirty eight touchdown passes. He's got nine, I mean nine.
- 1:10:07Speaker 3: And he hasn't been bad. He just hasn't been what
- 1:10:10Speaker 3: I thought it was going to be. And I thought
- 1:10:12Speaker 3: Ridley would catch one hundred passes for you know, fourteen
- 1:10:16Speaker 3: hundred yards and ten touchdowns, and he's not on close
- 1:10:20Speaker 3: to that pace. So it's not where I thought it
- 1:10:25Speaker 3: would be. But I think the second half of the
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: season you're gonna see a different passing game for the Jaguars.
- 1:10:33Speaker 3: I think I think you're gonna see more shots down
- 1:10:35Speaker 3: the field. And again I go back to what we
- 1:10:38Speaker 3: said most of the beginning of this season, the play
- 1:10:41Speaker 3: calling was affected by the interior of the offensive line.
- 1:10:45Speaker 3: The quarterback has been sped up by the interior of
- 1:10:48Speaker 3: the offensive line, and I think that's impacted the numbers
- 1:10:50Speaker 3: down the field.
- 1:10:52Speaker 2: By the way. Ridley leads the league in targets that
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: caused defensive pass interference six times this year, he has
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: been the intended receiver and drawn the flag for DPI.
- 1:11:05Speaker 3: Which means he might have, you know, say get three
- 1:11:08Speaker 3: big plays out of half, you get half of those things.
- 1:11:10Speaker 3: That's that's you know, taking away three big plays from him.
- 1:11:13Speaker 3: But there's been times where I think, you know, earlier season,
- 1:11:16Speaker 3: I thought they tried to feed him too much, and
- 1:11:18Speaker 3: they got away from that. Then he was doubled at
- 1:11:20Speaker 3: New Orleans. I mean, they took him away at New Orleans.
- 1:11:22Speaker 3: That's that's what they did. So that's what you do.
- 1:11:25Speaker 3: You go away from that. But now the next step
- 1:11:27Speaker 3: for Ridley when they do w if you're really a
- 1:11:32Speaker 3: star receiver, how do you handle it? That's the next step.
- 1:11:36Speaker 3: And so I think, I think the next half of
- 1:11:38Speaker 3: this season is gonna be big for him, and it's
- 1:11:40Speaker 3: gonna make him make an adjustment on it too.
- 1:11:45Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Pete and I are in agreement. I mean,
- 1:11:47Speaker 4: overall positive love these on our team numbers probably an't
- 1:11:51Speaker 4: where we thought they would be, but that's the same
- 1:11:54Speaker 4: to Pete's point, I mean, I thought Trevor would have
- 1:11:55Speaker 4: bigger numbers as well. At the end of the day,
- 1:11:57Speaker 4: who cares. You're six and two, Your defense is playing great,
- 1:12:02Speaker 4: You're you have one of the best running backs in football.
- 1:12:05Speaker 4: You're getting healthy questions with Jay Jones. I think missing
- 1:12:10Speaker 4: hurts them right now because he's a big part of
- 1:12:12Speaker 4: that offense. But I think overall it's great. I mean,
- 1:12:17Speaker 4: where they sit right now, I think it's outstanding. So
- 1:12:20Speaker 4: but with that, it made me think of another. Can
- 1:12:23Speaker 4: I change another? Keeping it real topic?
- 1:12:26Speaker 2: You don't go ahead, Tony? Yes? Please?
- 1:12:28Speaker 4: May you guys already talk about it. You guys talked
- 1:12:30Speaker 4: about Tank Bigsby. I think they have an issue of
- 1:12:32Speaker 4: running back.
- 1:12:32Speaker 3: Yes we did, but we agree with you.
- 1:12:35Speaker 4: Yeah, and I and I think, listen, etn Is, he's
- 1:12:39Speaker 4: one of the best five running backs in the NFL.
- 1:12:41Speaker 4: Let's just call it what it is. He's outstanding. I
- 1:12:45Speaker 4: think I would bring Daranis Johnson as the number two
- 1:12:48Speaker 4: now and give him more carries. I think he's a
- 1:12:50Speaker 4: good enough back where you can trust him. And I
- 1:12:52Speaker 4: think and I would bring up oh the Snoop twenty
- 1:12:59Speaker 4: two Hasty Jamal Hasty as my third back, and I
- 1:13:04Speaker 4: might let Tank relax a little bit for a while,
- 1:13:07Speaker 4: kind of just.
- 1:13:11Speaker 6: You.
- 1:13:11Speaker 4: I don't think the sense I get is they don't
- 1:13:14Speaker 4: trust him right now, and he not that he's earned it.
- 1:13:16Speaker 4: I mean another turnover. And I think you have to
- 1:13:20Speaker 4: have guys out there right now that you trust, that
- 1:13:23Speaker 4: you know, and you have to spell e ten down
- 1:13:26Speaker 4: the stretch. We have nine games left, and the volume
- 1:13:29Speaker 4: of touches and carries that he's that he's you know,
- 1:13:33Speaker 4: put on his back so far, it's pretty good, pretty
- 1:13:36Speaker 4: pretty significant. And you're gonna need somebody who can take series,
- 1:13:40Speaker 4: not just a play series off his plate. And I
- 1:13:44Speaker 4: don't think it's Tink, it's Tank bigsbye right now. Not
- 1:13:46Speaker 4: that I'm giving up on Tank. I think I still
- 1:13:48Speaker 4: think he'd be a very very good player in this league.
- 1:13:51Speaker 4: For whatever whatever's going on, you need to give him
- 1:13:54Speaker 4: a break. In my opinion, go with the Arnis Johnson,
- 1:13:58Speaker 4: get Jamal Hasty in there. You know what he is,
- 1:14:01Speaker 4: what he did last year and h and kind of
- 1:14:04Speaker 4: move forward.
- 1:14:05Speaker 3: I would agree with you. Uh And and I think
- 1:14:08Speaker 3: the other side of that Tony is he's averaging two
- 1:14:12Speaker 3: and a half yards per rush and he bounces everything everything,
- 1:14:18Speaker 3: And I think sometimes you just got to put your
- 1:14:19Speaker 3: head down and go. You just go. He's a big back,
- 1:14:22Speaker 3: he's got The whole idea with drafting him was to
- 1:14:24Speaker 3: improve the short yardage game and and and you know,
- 1:14:27Speaker 3: get him going in this for this short yardage stuff.
- 1:14:30Speaker 3: And that's not who he is right now. So I
- 1:14:33Speaker 3: tend to agree with you. I would I would probably
- 1:14:35Speaker 3: make Johnson my my number two right now. I think
- 1:14:39Speaker 3: you have to, you know, And and not just the fumbling,
- 1:14:42Speaker 3: because look, there's been great Tiki Barber was a great
- 1:14:44Speaker 3: backing fumbled remember a lot, and Tom Tom kind of
- 1:14:48Speaker 3: helped him get over that. You can get over that.
- 1:14:50Speaker 3: But I don't think he's running with the same power
- 1:14:54Speaker 3: and toughness inside that he can run with. So I
- 1:14:58Speaker 3: think there's something going on there. Let him you maybe
- 1:15:00Speaker 3: let him sit for a while and watch and get
- 1:15:03Speaker 3: back out there later in the year.
- 1:15:05Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.
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- 1:16:11Speaker 2: They're a lot submitted today at Jags fan five eight
- 1:16:14Speaker 2: five eight. Do you think the Jags will make a
- 1:16:15Speaker 2: trade before the deadline or keep what they have to
- 1:16:17Speaker 2: not disrupt any team chemistry. If they do make a trade,
- 1:16:20Speaker 2: then what position should they trade for? Well, we talked
- 1:16:22Speaker 2: through this a little bit, but what's your opinion of
- 1:16:25Speaker 2: this team chemistry part of it.
- 1:16:27Speaker 4: I don't I would make a trade. I am now
- 1:16:30Speaker 4: in the camp. I'll give it number one and go
- 1:16:33Speaker 4: get one of those pass rushers, because I think you're
- 1:16:36Speaker 4: gonna you're gonna go deep in the playoffs at this point.
- 1:16:39Speaker 4: If everything stays equal, you never have enough pass rushers.
- 1:16:42Speaker 4: Worry about next year, next year. I mean, you gotta
- 1:16:47Speaker 4: be careful, But I mean I think it's I mean
- 1:16:50Speaker 4: based on because what you have tied up with Calvin Ridley,
- 1:16:53Speaker 4: all you really have to do is get trade a one.
- 1:16:56Speaker 4: I don't think they're gonna do it though. I don't
- 1:16:58Speaker 4: think they're gonna do it. To me, it has nothing
- 1:17:00Speaker 4: to do with team chemistry. Let me tell you about
- 1:17:02Speaker 4: team chemistry. If you have good team chemistry, you're not
- 1:17:05Speaker 4: worried about bringing someone in because they'll conform to you.
- 1:17:08Speaker 4: You think, you know the Patriots when they were winning
- 1:17:10Speaker 4: all those games, worried about bringing in somebody. No, not
- 1:17:15Speaker 4: for a second.
- 1:17:15Speaker 2: Though.
- 1:17:16Speaker 4: When you have great when you have a great locker room,
- 1:17:18Speaker 4: a strong culture, it will it will, it will police itself.
- 1:17:22Speaker 3: I'm with you.
- 1:17:23Speaker 4: And by the way, I don't think any of the
- 1:17:24Speaker 4: guys are that are out there, that are we've been
- 1:17:26Speaker 4: talking about, are an issue anyways. I think they all
- 1:17:28Speaker 4: love football. I just don't think they're going to do it.
- 1:17:32Speaker 4: I don't get the sense they're going to make the move.
- 1:17:35Speaker 3: Well, part of the problem is if you go make
- 1:17:37Speaker 3: a move for a pass rush, you're you're saying to yourself, well,
- 1:17:39Speaker 3: or number one overall pick wasn't what it was supposed
- 1:17:42Speaker 3: to be.
- 1:17:43Speaker 4: Well, I hope that's the reason they don't. I hope
- 1:17:48Speaker 4: that's the reason they wouldn't do it, because that's the
- 1:17:50Speaker 4: wrong reason.
- 1:17:52Speaker 3: You mean, you hope that's the reason. That's not the
- 1:17:54Speaker 3: reason that they don't do it.
- 1:17:56Speaker 4: I hope that's not the reason they don't do it,
- 1:17:58Speaker 4: because trust I'm a big believer. I think great front
- 1:18:04Speaker 4: office individuals, great coaches are people who can admit their
- 1:18:08Speaker 4: mistakes if it's a mistake. And I don't think I'm
- 1:18:10Speaker 4: not saying Arrevon Walker, but right now he's not the
- 1:18:15Speaker 4: pass rusher you knew you would like him to be.
- 1:18:18Speaker 4: At this point of his career. I think Trademon Walker
- 1:18:22Speaker 4: is gonna be a long time Jaguarn and I thing
- 1:18:23Speaker 4: he's to make a lot of big plays for us.
- 1:18:25Speaker 4: But if you're looking at it right now and you know,
- 1:18:30Speaker 4: would another pass rusher make you even better on defense?
- 1:18:34Speaker 4: I would think so. The way Josh Allen's playing the
- 1:18:36Speaker 4: way that back half of the linebackers is beat or point. Absolutely,
- 1:18:40Speaker 4: I just don't think they're gonna do it.
- 1:18:41Speaker 3: It could make it downright scary, Tony. I mean, you
- 1:18:46Speaker 3: have a chance to get get a defense that has
- 1:18:49Speaker 3: the top two pass rushers in the league in terms
- 1:18:52Speaker 3: of sacks on your roster right now. I mean that
- 1:18:56Speaker 3: means somebody's gonna get one on one every time.
- 1:18:59Speaker 2: Yep, we were touching on this earlier, the idea that
- 1:19:05Speaker 2: some of these players are coming back Hamilton's back. Tony
- 1:19:09Speaker 2: didn't play a lot yesterday, but in theory that could
- 1:19:12Speaker 2: rise Smoot's back. Could that be enough to help the
- 1:19:16Speaker 2: overall front be better down the stretch.
- 1:19:19Speaker 4: Well, I think they're gonna be better. I think they're
- 1:19:21Speaker 4: just gonna keep on improving with those guys getting back
- 1:19:23Speaker 4: and healthier, healthier and healthier. But at Dwan Smoot's best
- 1:19:28Speaker 4: pre Achilles sixth sack guy, seven sack guy. I mean,
- 1:19:33Speaker 4: that's what he.
- 1:19:34Speaker 3: Is and could give you a couple from the outside,
- 1:19:36Speaker 3: a couple from the inside. That's what he's gonna give you.
- 1:19:39Speaker 4: Valuable teammate, valuable member of the Jaguars. But that's what
- 1:19:42Speaker 4: he is six SAC guy Devon Hamilton at his best.
- 1:19:47Speaker 4: I mean, now he was really good in preseason, but
- 1:19:50Speaker 4: now he's just trying to get back and get healthy.
- 1:19:52Speaker 4: But really he's a two down player for a second down.
- 1:19:56Speaker 3: He looks he looks small. I hadn't been able to
- 1:20:00Speaker 3: lift or something.
- 1:20:01Speaker 4: Tony Well, I mean, I'm sure he had some limitations
- 1:20:05Speaker 4: with the back.
- 1:20:05Speaker 3: Right, That's what I'm saying. So it's gonna take him
- 1:20:07Speaker 3: a while because even his snaps, I don't know if
- 1:20:09Speaker 3: you didn't watch a tape, but watching him, he didn't
- 1:20:11Speaker 3: look like the power player that he was before the injury.
- 1:20:15Speaker 4: Yep.
- 1:20:16Speaker 3: So it's gonna take him a month at least to
- 1:20:19Speaker 3: get close to being where he was.
- 1:20:21Speaker 2: Next question at the Realist AVD, with all the talk
- 1:20:25Speaker 2: about bringing someone in for past rush, can we talk
- 1:20:28Speaker 2: about what specifically makes this front so good against the run.
- 1:20:33Speaker 4: Number One, they're really big and physical upfront. They have
- 1:20:37Speaker 4: three interior guys that will just beat you up. And
- 1:20:41Speaker 4: then they have two deep outside I mean they're two
- 1:20:43Speaker 4: outside linebackers and Josh Allen Traymon Walker can set the
- 1:20:47Speaker 4: edge and are physical players, and Traymond one of the
- 1:20:50Speaker 4: most physical outside linebackers you're gonna see in the league.
- 1:20:53Speaker 4: And if you watch Josh Allen over this stretch and
- 1:20:56Speaker 4: then I saw it live, Pete, tell me if I
- 1:20:58Speaker 4: was wrong. Josh Allen made and plays from the in
- 1:21:01Speaker 4: the run game, just shutting down the edge and coming
- 1:21:04Speaker 4: off and making play.
- 1:21:05Speaker 2: Yep.
- 1:21:05Speaker 4: Yeah. So you have those five guys up front who
- 1:21:08Speaker 4: are just studs, and then you have two backers right
- 1:21:12Speaker 4: now and a Luacon and Devin Lloyd who are running
- 1:21:16Speaker 4: and hitting. And a Lucon's been doing it since the
- 1:21:19Speaker 4: day he signed here. He diagnoses a play faster than
- 1:21:22Speaker 4: anyone else maybe in the league. He is a leader,
- 1:21:25Speaker 4: he's smart, he's in the right place, not out of position.
- 1:21:28Speaker 4: And then Devin Lloyd is ascending right now and playing
- 1:21:31Speaker 4: good football. That front seven is why you're good. And hey,
- 1:21:35Speaker 4: let's not forget about Rashaon Jenkins coming down into the box,
- 1:21:38Speaker 4: who's one of more physical safeties and tacklers. And then
- 1:21:43Speaker 4: when they get Nickel, you have a nickel player and
- 1:21:45Speaker 4: Trey Herndon's great is a physical player as well. So
- 1:21:48Speaker 4: you just got a bunch of dogs out there that
- 1:21:50Speaker 4: are physical beat people up.
- 1:21:52Speaker 3: Yeah. And I said just earlier Tony in the last
- 1:21:55Speaker 3: three games, Devin Lloyd's the most improved player on the team.
- 1:21:58Speaker 4: He looks good.
- 1:22:00Speaker 3: It's amazing. It's almost like it went on. There's no
- 1:22:04Speaker 3: more where am I lining up? What zone am I
- 1:22:06Speaker 3: dropping into? He doesn't react, particularly in the past defense.
- 1:22:10Speaker 3: He drops, reacts tackles and they go down. Like you
- 1:22:14Speaker 3: said last week, they don't miss tackles if.
- 1:22:17Speaker 4: He drops one more interception though, with that nang cast on.
- 1:22:20Speaker 2: His thumb, that's what it is right now.
- 1:22:24Speaker 4: And the funny thing is, prior to the surgery, he's
- 1:22:29Speaker 4: one of them, had some of the best hands on
- 1:22:30Speaker 4: the defense.
- 1:22:33Speaker 2: That's right. They'll come back at some point at Nick
- 1:22:36Speaker 2: Pope Joy is the next question. Who is the MVP
- 1:22:39Speaker 2: of the offense and the defense At the halfway mark,
- 1:22:44Speaker 2: I narrowed.
- 1:22:46Speaker 4: Down to two guys on defense, either a Lua conn
- 1:22:48Speaker 4: or Josh Allen. On offense, I'm gonna go Travis etn.
- 1:22:58Speaker 2: Good choices, Pete Hard.
- 1:23:00Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard for me to not pick the quarterback
- 1:23:03Speaker 3: as the m v P. It just goes against everything
- 1:23:06Speaker 3: I believe in because you always pick the quarterback. But defense,
- 1:23:10Speaker 3: you said it would be Josh Allen has to be
- 1:23:12Speaker 3: the MVP.
- 1:23:12Speaker 4: I said, either Luacon or Josh Allen. They're both.
- 1:23:15Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going with a guy who has that that
- 1:23:17Speaker 3: Sack influence and that those Sack numbers and the pressures.
- 1:23:20Speaker 3: I'm going with Josh Allen.
- 1:23:23Speaker 2: All Right, the picts are in. Let's get one final
- 1:23:25Speaker 2: question at coach Knicks too.
- 1:23:27Speaker 4: Five.
- 1:23:27Speaker 2: What's your favorite Halloween candy? I'll go with the little
- 1:23:30Speaker 2: mounds bars. What do you got?
- 1:23:33Speaker 3: Well, that's a weird one. I mean I like mounds too,
- 1:23:36Speaker 3: but because I like coking up. But that's you're like
- 1:23:39Speaker 3: off the beaten path with that.
- 1:23:41Speaker 2: I'm talking about, no way, those off the beating paths
- 1:23:45Speaker 2: a little bit.
- 1:23:45Speaker 3: I mean most people say, you know, Snickers or your finger?
- 1:23:52Speaker 4: What do you like?
- 1:23:56Speaker 3: Butterfinger?
- 1:23:57Speaker 4: I got to mine is a Snickers.
- 1:24:00Speaker 3: I like that too, though in my.
- 1:24:02Speaker 4: My off the kind of off the beaten path one
- 1:24:06Speaker 4: I thought to be good, be good. You remember dots,
- 1:24:10Speaker 4: those little chewy like guns.
- 1:24:13Speaker 3: I never I don't mind dots. I can't say anything.
- 1:24:18Speaker 3: Especially the liquorice one was always good. Yeah, because I
- 1:24:21Speaker 3: actually I prefer sugar. This is gonna sound I prefer
- 1:24:25Speaker 3: those kind of sugar candies over chocolate to be honest
- 1:24:28Speaker 3: with you.
- 1:24:28Speaker 4: Well, and here's my problem, Pete, So do I A
- 1:24:30Speaker 4: lot of times, like to this day, my kids go
- 1:24:33Speaker 4: trigger te they come back. I steal the dots before
- 1:24:36Speaker 4: anything else. I love the texture, the chewiness.
- 1:24:41Speaker 3: I'm not gonna I'm not hating on you for.
- 1:24:43Speaker 4: That, especially the red dots.
- 1:24:45Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I love it. But like I always,
- 1:24:48Speaker 3: I like the juju fruits, you know, the I like
- 1:24:50Speaker 3: the sweetish fish, the red sweetish fish. Sweetish, I mean licorice,
- 1:24:55Speaker 3: you know, like licorice, not just I like string liquors.
- 1:24:59Speaker 3: It's hard to find anymore, but I like that. Yeah,
- 1:25:02Speaker 3: I prefer that over chocolate. I'm not a giant chocolate guy.
- 1:25:05Speaker 4: Red vines like red vines.
- 1:25:06Speaker 3: Bet they're okay.
- 1:25:08Speaker 4: I like the lord you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, hard to.
- 1:25:11Speaker 3: Find the you know, the strawberry ones are hard to find. Yeah,
- 1:25:14Speaker 3: the strawberry ones.
- 1:25:15Speaker 4: That's old school liquor, ye, Pete.
- 1:25:18Speaker 2: Prisco is kind of like the black licorice. If you
- 1:25:21Speaker 2: if you like it, you love it. If you don't
- 1:25:23Speaker 2: like it, you just hate it. Right, So your dad.
- 1:25:25Speaker 3: Hates black liquorice. JP's dad hates me.
- 1:25:33Speaker 4: I know, trust me. One of the things that puts
- 1:25:35Speaker 4: a smile on my face every day when I wake up, Pete,
- 1:25:37Speaker 4: knowing the JP's dad can't stand you and love me.
- 1:25:42Speaker 3: I don't know if he loves you. I think he
- 1:25:43Speaker 3: tolerates you. He just doesn't like me.
- 1:25:45Speaker 4: Well he no, he loves me compared to you. That's
- 1:25:47Speaker 4: all that.
- 1:25:50Speaker 3: I still haven't figured out why your dad doesn't like
- 1:25:52Speaker 3: me though he's never met me.
- 1:25:57Speaker 2: I don't know if you ever.
- 1:25:59Speaker 3: J's name, by the way, what's that? What's your dad's name?
- 1:26:03Speaker 2: His name is John. His birthday was this week actually,
- 1:26:06Speaker 2: by the way, seventy not like me.
- 1:26:10Speaker 3: You've never met me.
- 1:26:12Speaker 4: You have that effect on people, Pete.
- 1:26:14Speaker 3: But Jake Piece is over their lab He's like, he's
- 1:26:18Speaker 3: all proud of his dad haveing disdain for meat. We
- 1:26:24Speaker 3: interrupt you?
- 1:26:25Speaker 1: Is that?
- 1:26:25Speaker 3: Why do we not let you have the flow? I mean, JP,
- 1:26:28Speaker 3: he should hate the guy on Twitter that said calls
- 1:26:30Speaker 3: you out every week every week, that guy Tony. Did
- 1:26:35Speaker 3: you see that one today? Oh my god, we we
- 1:26:40Speaker 3: almost you know how like they do mean tweets on
- 1:26:43Speaker 3: on shows. That's that would be a mean tweet because
- 1:26:46Speaker 3: it doesn't just take you down, It takes frenzy down.
- 1:26:52Speaker 4: So are we are we not allowed to show it?
- 1:26:54Speaker 4: Isn't that bad.
- 1:26:57Speaker 3: You can read it. You can read there's not dirty
- 1:27:00Speaker 3: word in it.
- 1:27:01Speaker 2: I mean you can read it. Pete. I'm not gonna
- 1:27:03Speaker 2: read it. Oh well, not right now. We'll come back
- 1:27:05Speaker 2: in a moment.
- 1:27:07Speaker 3: I'll read it and you tell me it.
- 1:27:09Speaker 2: A kickoff the second half of the season at the
- 1:27:15Speaker 2: Bank when the Jaguars take on the forty nine Ers
- 1:27:19Speaker 2: November twelfth. Kickoff set for one o'clock. For now, tickets
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- 1:28:13Speaker 2: fan questions tonight. By the way, there was a lot.
- 1:28:16Speaker 2: There's a lot going on, a lot of happy Jaguar
- 1:28:18Speaker 2: fans this week five game wins.
- 1:28:20Speaker 3: I forgot this one though.
- 1:28:21Speaker 2: No, boy, oh boy, here we go, Here we.
- 1:28:23Speaker 3: Go, Tony, you want to hear it? What do you
- 1:28:26Speaker 3: want to hear the tweet? The mean tweet.
- 1:28:28Speaker 4: No, don't read out loud.
- 1:28:29Speaker 3: I won't read it out loud.
- 1:28:31Speaker 4: I don't know why.
- 1:28:31Speaker 3: I we't read it out loud because then we're gonna
- 1:28:34Speaker 3: we're gonna give the guy credit for it.
- 1:28:35Speaker 4: I don't want toive him any credit. He doesn't.
- 1:28:37Speaker 3: We want to block him. We want to block him exactly.
- 1:28:41Speaker 3: But let's put it this way. If your dad's that
- 1:28:45Speaker 3: mean to.
- 1:28:45Speaker 2: Me, my dad's like the nicest guy on the planet, Pete.
- 1:28:52Speaker 3: He just doesn't like me.
- 1:28:54Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's fair.
- 1:28:55Speaker 3: He doesn't know me.
- 1:28:57Speaker 2: That's also fair. I think it's just your general aura.
- 1:29:02Speaker 4: I get it. I felt like that. I felt like
- 1:29:05Speaker 4: that about Pete a lot of days in my life.
- 1:29:10Speaker 2: Let's go, let's go around the National Football League and
- 1:29:15Speaker 2: start with the Panthers a field goal at the end
- 1:29:17Speaker 2: beat the Texans fifteen to thirteen.
- 1:29:21Speaker 3: The two rookie quarterbacks, well, neither one was the best
- 1:29:24Speaker 3: rookie quarterback on Sunday. I can tell you that right now.
- 1:29:30Speaker 3: You know who that was, don't you.
- 1:29:32Speaker 4: Yeah, I know Will Levis, I think is his name
- 1:29:35Speaker 4: that you are. Let everyone on Twitter know, JP you
- 1:29:39Speaker 4: see that Pete. Let everyone know on Twitter.
- 1:29:41Speaker 3: I told you, I told you because I will tell
- 1:29:45Speaker 3: you when I'm right. Well, do you know why I
- 1:29:51Speaker 3: said that was him?
- 1:29:52Speaker 4: And Christian Ponder all along?
- 1:29:55Speaker 3: I know I was wrong about Christian Ponder. But you
- 1:29:57Speaker 3: know what's the best thing about being wrong about Christian Pond.
- 1:30:00Speaker 3: I worked for Rick Spielman and he drafted.
- 1:30:04Speaker 2: Oh wow, oh going through some of these games here
- 1:30:08Speaker 2: these Saints Pete, the Colts thirty eight twenty seven, the
- 1:30:12Speaker 2: Dolphins over the Patriots thirty one seventeen. Stop me if
- 1:30:17Speaker 2: any of these intrigue you. The Eagles over the Commanders
- 1:30:20Speaker 2: thirty eight thirty one.
- 1:30:22Speaker 4: That one that was interesting. I mean, I'm you know,
- 1:30:26Speaker 4: the Eagles traded for Kevin Byern because they had issues
- 1:30:29Speaker 4: in the secondary. They need safety help. To give up
- 1:30:32Speaker 4: thirty one to the Commanders. I mean, here's what I mean.
- 1:30:37Speaker 3: I'll say, Kayla Carter got hurt, by the way, and.
- 1:30:39Speaker 4: I'll say it this way, Pete and JP. This is
- 1:30:43Speaker 4: why I love the NFL, and this is why we
- 1:30:45Speaker 4: also gotta be careful. I'm not getting too excited about
- 1:30:48Speaker 4: being six and two. Three weeks ago, nobody could beat
- 1:30:52Speaker 4: the forty nine er. For the Eagles, they're the greatest
- 1:30:55Speaker 4: teams on earth. Bad Bad Bah Bah Bay or the Chiefs,
- 1:30:58Speaker 4: and then and the Chiefs were right there and then
- 1:31:00Speaker 4: like it's you know, you know, you have that narrative.
- 1:31:05Speaker 4: And now all of a sudden, a couple of weeks later,
- 1:31:06Speaker 4: it's like the forty nine ers have lost three in
- 1:31:08Speaker 4: a row. The Eagles lost their defense, you know, has
- 1:31:12Speaker 4: some issues. Obviously, give up thirty one. Chiefs lose to Denver.
- 1:31:16Speaker 4: Now I was snowing and my homes was sick.
- 1:31:19Speaker 3: My point isn't really snowing though it's supposed to snow
- 1:31:21Speaker 3: and it never really did.
- 1:31:23Speaker 4: My point is it's a long season.
- 1:31:25Speaker 3: Yep.
- 1:31:25Speaker 4: This is where as a franchise, and I think this
- 1:31:29Speaker 4: is one of the things that Doug is so good at.
- 1:31:32Speaker 4: Stay bounced. Don't get you ahead of yourself. Don't think
- 1:31:34Speaker 4: too far down the road. Let's worry about getting through
- 1:31:36Speaker 4: the buy and beating the next team on our schedule.
- 1:31:41Speaker 4: With that said, I'm gonna play the non coach, non
- 1:31:44Speaker 4: responsible person. There's nobody in this league that scares me.
- 1:31:48Speaker 4: As far as from the Jaguar standpoint, we are as
- 1:31:51Speaker 4: good as anybody in the NFL.
- 1:31:53Speaker 3: Yep, which is why you need to go for it.
- 1:31:55Speaker 2: YEP.
- 1:31:56Speaker 4: I agree.
- 1:31:58Speaker 2: Seahawks are going for it. They beat the Browns twenty
- 1:32:01Speaker 2: four to twenty yesterday Pete.
- 1:32:03Speaker 3: And then traded for Leonard Williams, which I think is
- 1:32:05Speaker 3: a good move for them. The Browns PJ Walker up,
- 1:32:09Speaker 3: You're up in the game three third and three. Late
- 1:32:13Speaker 3: in the game, two minutes left, he threw an interception.
- 1:32:17Speaker 3: Punt the damn ball in. Run the ball, make him
- 1:32:19Speaker 3: use the timeout, punt the ball in and make him
- 1:32:21Speaker 3: go down and get a field goal. These guys are
- 1:32:23Speaker 3: out of control, out of.
- 1:32:25Speaker 2: Control, out of control. Ravens over the Cardinals thirty one,
- 1:32:28Speaker 2: twenty four, Bengals beat the Niners as you mentioned, and
- 1:32:31Speaker 2: the Chargers over the Bears last night Monday Night Football,
- 1:32:36Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo returns from a back injury for the Las
- 1:32:39Speaker 2: Vegas Raiders at three and four as they visit Jared Goff,
- 1:32:42Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson and the five and two Detroit Lions. Who
- 1:32:45Speaker 2: you got in Motown on Monday night?
- 1:32:48Speaker 3: Hey, nothing like hold on.
- 1:32:51Speaker 4: You notice he was a little more reserved after flubbing
- 1:32:54Speaker 4: it last week.
- 1:32:54Speaker 3: Yeah, he was. He wanted to make it.
- 1:32:56Speaker 4: Wasn't very long. It was very basic, you know he
- 1:33:00Speaker 4: was he you know what? Last week? Yep, he was
- 1:33:05Speaker 4: all into it. Last week he choked And now he's.
- 1:33:07Speaker 3: Taking the ease, if you know what, And you know what,
- 1:33:11Speaker 3: it's almost at least last week he took the bat
- 1:33:15Speaker 3: off his shoulder and took the swings. This week he bunnet.
- 1:33:19Speaker 3: He was bunnet, JP, You were bunting the bat off
- 1:33:23Speaker 3: the shoulder. Get back in there and start swinging again.
- 1:33:26Speaker 2: Think the receiver is a short catch to get back
- 1:33:28Speaker 2: in rhythm. Maybe. I don't know.
- 1:33:30Speaker 3: You think Tony he took the easy way out?
- 1:33:34Speaker 2: Yeah, picked how about that?
- 1:33:37Speaker 3: I like the Lions tonight, and I think when you
- 1:33:40Speaker 3: look at the Lions, they're wounded. They got beat up
- 1:33:43Speaker 3: last week. They come home against a bad team, that's
- 1:33:45Speaker 3: usually a bad combination. I think they blow him out.
- 1:33:48Speaker 4: I think the Raiders are off all. They had a
- 1:33:51Speaker 4: team meeting where everyone could bear their thoughts. That's the
- 1:33:56Speaker 4: first sign of stuff hitting the fan and going down
- 1:33:59Speaker 4: the drain, and so I think the Lions blow them out.
- 1:34:03Speaker 4: I'm with Pete.
- 1:34:04Speaker 2: Yeah, rarely do you have players only or team meetings
- 1:34:07Speaker 2: when things are going swimmingly. That doesn't really.
- 1:34:11Speaker 3: Josh McDaniels can alienate some people.
- 1:34:13Speaker 2: Now he survives, Pete.
- 1:34:16Speaker 3: That's a lot of money.
- 1:34:18Speaker 4: They like they own all this money. The Raiders aren't
- 1:34:22Speaker 4: a rich franchise.
- 1:34:24Speaker 3: They're richer now because they're in Vegas and they have
- 1:34:26Speaker 3: that stadium. But you're right, for a long time they
- 1:34:28Speaker 3: could barely even keep up and pay their They had
- 1:34:30Speaker 3: to take money out to pay the bills at one point.
- 1:34:34Speaker 2: If they win tonight, they're five hundred.
- 1:34:37Speaker 3: Do you think they're winning to I JP?
- 1:34:40Speaker 4: No, Well, based on your intro to Monday Night football,
- 1:34:44Speaker 4: you know you're not even watching the game. I shouldn't
- 1:34:47Speaker 4: interested you were in that.
- 1:34:48Speaker 3: Uh, that's Monday night football. Hey, everybody welcome. Even if
- 1:34:53Speaker 3: you were calling the game. If JP were calling the game,
- 1:34:56Speaker 3: could you imagine I feel like Westwood want to cheating
- 1:34:59Speaker 3: them out of a dime or whatever you do.
- 1:35:00Speaker 4: Work drops back, He throws at the Devontia everybody.
- 1:35:06Speaker 3: I'm I'm here in Detroit and there's a game going on.
- 1:35:10Speaker 4: Terrible, JP, embarrassing formance.
- 1:35:13Speaker 3: Get back back in the game, JP, man to get
- 1:35:16Speaker 3: in the game. Try to get Tony b nice. You're
- 1:35:18Speaker 3: gonna be on John's hit list, I think.
- 1:35:21Speaker 4: Frankly, I think JP's dad, John is disappointed in his son.
- 1:35:26Speaker 2: Wow.
- 1:35:28Speaker 4: Wow, that's not the sun who John raised me. He
- 1:35:32Speaker 4: raised the guy in battle who fights gets back in
- 1:35:35Speaker 4: the game when he failed. Pete. I don't know who
- 1:35:38Speaker 4: he is. I don't think John even recognizes him.
- 1:35:40Speaker 2: How the hell have we go down this road? This
- 1:35:42Speaker 2: is unbelievable.
- 1:35:44Speaker 3: Because I always filed that one away when you told
- 1:35:46Speaker 3: me your dad didn't like me.
- 1:35:49Speaker 2: So and and for clarity's sake, he did clarify. He said,
- 1:35:53Speaker 2: I don't hate Pete. He's quite knowledgeable about football. However,
- 1:35:56Speaker 2: there are days.
- 1:36:00Speaker 4: Welcome to the club, John, there's days.
- 1:36:02Speaker 2: I have with you.
- 1:36:04Speaker 3: Hey, there's days I don't even like what I say.
- 1:36:09Speaker 2: Hey, what's the by week playing Tony? What do you
- 1:36:11Speaker 2: got Pete, you gotta work.
- 1:36:13Speaker 4: I'm going to I'm in San Francisco right now. We
- 1:36:16Speaker 4: back tomorrow in Jacksonville and then don't ask me why,
- 1:36:20Speaker 4: but I'm heading it back to the West Coast, going
- 1:36:22Speaker 4: to LA for a homecoming week at s S. My
- 1:36:26Speaker 4: wife has. She's doing something with the song girls, watch
- 1:36:28Speaker 4: my son in law, and then I take the Red
- 1:36:31Speaker 4: Eye after the game Saturday night and go to Cincinnati.
- 1:36:34Speaker 4: I'm doing the Bills Bengals Sunday night football.
- 1:36:37Speaker 3: And since, wow, very nice, You're racking up all kinds
- 1:36:41Speaker 3: of miles. Man, what are you doing. You're killing yourself,
- 1:36:45Speaker 3: that's what.
- 1:36:46Speaker 4: But Pete, I'm healthy now, I'm skinny.
- 1:36:48Speaker 2: I know.
- 1:36:48Speaker 3: Isn't it amazing you lose a little weight? You feel
- 1:36:50Speaker 3: like I told somebody yesterday, go, this is the first
- 1:36:52Speaker 3: time in the first week in November I felt this
- 1:36:54Speaker 3: good during the season.
- 1:36:55Speaker 4: Ever, yeah, I feel great. I actually do really feel good.
- 1:36:58Speaker 4: So I'm looking forward to be of travel.
- 1:37:00Speaker 3: But look, but the only problem with travel, Tony, you
- 1:37:03Speaker 3: gotta deal with other people.
- 1:37:05Speaker 4: Yeah, I got I got a routine. I get a
- 1:37:08Speaker 4: good seat, I put my headphones on and I act
- 1:37:11Speaker 4: like I'm reading something.
- 1:37:13Speaker 3: But I'm just saying getting on the plane, getting in line,
- 1:37:16Speaker 3: and getting out of the plane. But you probably have
- 1:37:19Speaker 3: all first class upgrades and it's in your contract and
- 1:37:22Speaker 3: everything else.
- 1:37:23Speaker 4: Knowing you, Yes, affirmative, Pete Prisco.
- 1:37:27Speaker 3: But you go to see USC play. They're terrible.
- 1:37:30Speaker 4: Yes, they're better than Arizona State, but they are not
- 1:37:33Speaker 4: very good.
- 1:37:33Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not very good.
- 1:37:34Speaker 2: All right, boys, you gotta run. Pete Prisco, Tony Vasselli,
- 1:37:37Speaker 2: our entire crew, Joe Fortunado, Brent Reever, I'm JP Shadwick.
- 1:37:41Speaker 2: Thank you for listening and watching. It's Jaguar's Happy Hour.