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The Craziest Hip Hop Conspiracies Pt. 1 · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 1: Win tranced true, I'm a check boots with the Audils.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy the Show. I'm your host
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  Speaker 2: Adam Todd Brown and this week very special co host.
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  Speaker 3: Who are you, Sliceburg?
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  Speaker 2: How's it going? Man?
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  Speaker 3: Pretty good, Adam? Pretty good? After Christmas type stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're recording this in that mid Christmas New Year's
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  Speaker 2: week where everyone's supposed to be doing nothing.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm a.
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  Speaker 2: Fucking tyrant who runs this network with an iron fist,
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  Speaker 2: so I demand people's still work during that week. So
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  Speaker 2: here we are. Sliceberg is my co host on a
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  Speaker 2: podcast called Pod six about the movies of Spike Lee,
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  Speaker 2: and we're talking about over the course of the next
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  Speaker 2: two episodes, we're talking about the ten best hip hop
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  Speaker 2: conspiracies of all time? What makes them the best? They're
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  Speaker 2: the ones I like the most. That's really the only criteria.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't take it to the people and ask them
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  Speaker 2: to decide, just threw a list together, handed it off
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  Speaker 2: to Sliceberg, and now we're going to talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: I think I did an alright job. There's some weird
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  Speaker 2: shit on this list. It is the very first one
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  Speaker 2: I think sounds like it's the weirdest but it's also
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  Speaker 2: one of the most compelling and plausible, Like it's not
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  Speaker 2: at all impossible that this is the case. The conspiracy
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  Speaker 2: is doctor Dre started the Burning Man festival. Ever been
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  Speaker 2: You ever been to Burning Man?
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  Speaker 3: I have not, but after his description of it at
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  Speaker 3: that time ninety five, yeah, it sounds pretty good. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think I would go to that. A lot of
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  Speaker 3: people just what naked, going crazy and drugs.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to be with that
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  Speaker 2: many people when I'm high in the desert on drugs,
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  Speaker 2: Like maybe just me, like some Jim Morrison shit. Just
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  Speaker 2: go out in the desert, do coote talk to cac
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  Speaker 2: die for a while. But uh, yeah, this theory it's
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  Speaker 2: a little misleading in name. The suggestion isn't that he
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  Speaker 2: started Burning Man because Burning Man technically started in nineteen
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  Speaker 2: eighty six, which was the same time he was starting NWA.
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  Speaker 2: You ever heard that first NWA album? It's called NWA
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  Speaker 2: in the posse.
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  Speaker 3: It's been a while, but I checked it because you
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  Speaker 3: mentioned it. I concur it's not that great.
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  Speaker 2: It's really bad times.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't find out identity yet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the album I think everyone regards as the first
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  Speaker 2: NWA album is straight out of Compton, which is man.
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  Speaker 2: If you listen to that, it still fucking holds up.
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  Speaker 2: If most of those songs came out today, they would
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  Speaker 2: still fucking kill. But uh that first album m bad,
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  Speaker 2: bad times, bad times.
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  Speaker 3: It's skippable. Skip it. A lot of.
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  Speaker 2: Songs by the Fela Fresh crew whoever they are.
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  Speaker 3: What is it about?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a compilation album. It's got It starts
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  Speaker 2: off really strong. It's got the original version of Dope
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  Speaker 2: Man and the original version of eight Ball and then
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  Speaker 2: it's just nightmare from there.
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  Speaker 3: Hey about him discovering this? Uh huh? He started Burned
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  Speaker 3: Man in the same way Columbus started America.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, some people here doing something. I can make money
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  Speaker 3: off of this. Possibly, I don't know. They're here.
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  Speaker 2: We can exploit this. These people who are here, we
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  Speaker 2: can exploit them. Yeah, you're right, it's so America was founded.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So fast forward to nineteen ninety five or rewind to
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  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five, depending on how much you're following along.
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Dre is in the desert somewhere in Nevada with
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  Speaker 2: Hype William's scout locations for the California Love video which
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  Speaker 2: did indeed take place in the middle of the desert.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't strike me as the kind of thing the
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  Speaker 2: director and artists do. There's usually like a scouting location person, good.
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  Speaker 3: Call, Yeah is with it? Those two specifically are out
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  Speaker 3: there doing that. Maybe hype, I can give it hype,
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  Speaker 3: but not Dre.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were both huge at the time, so they
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  Speaker 2: certainly wouldn't need to. But I guess quality control reasons.
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  Speaker 2: I don't necessarily have to edit all the podcasts on
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  Speaker 2: this network, but I edit most of them just because
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  Speaker 2: I'm I don't trust anyone more than myself to cut
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  Speaker 2: the stuff that I don't want people to hear, like
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  Speaker 2: it's not anything beyond that, right.
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  Speaker 3: Two is Dre always a stickler behind the scenes, traveling
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  Speaker 3: with the directory video he was in you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: He does seem like a bit of a perfectionist. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the Detox album was supposed to come out like five
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  Speaker 2: different times over the course twelve years, and then he
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  Speaker 2: eventually was like, no, I don't I'm not gonna do it.
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  Speaker 2: But here is another album that's not that good, thanks Dre.
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  Speaker 2: Remember the Compton album.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was praise but yeah, eh, you think
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  Speaker 3: Dre was SCOPI locations would keep their his ringing, I
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  Speaker 3: need something post apocalyptic.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder where they went for that. Probably New
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  Speaker 2: Jersey something like that. Yeah, they filmed part of World
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  Speaker 2: War Ze in New Jersey, and I've always thought that
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  Speaker 2: was funny. Really, it's like, well, we need someplace that
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  Speaker 2: looks like the apocalypse already happened. Let's head to New Jersey.
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  Speaker 2: So weird as it seems, Hype Williams and doctor Dre
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  Speaker 2: are the ones in the desert scouting locations for this video.
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  Speaker 2: And while he was there, he wrote a letter to
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  Speaker 2: his then girlfriend, which I think even by nineteen ninety five,
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  Speaker 2: I was over that kind of shit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah you say letter, what you really mean is original text. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this letter is so very thirsty. Yes, it almost seems
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  Speaker 3: if the talking to her is coincidental, because the focus
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  Speaker 3: of the letter seems to be that he's really excited about
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  Speaker 3: about him and Hype scoping this area out and these
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  Speaker 3: people in the middle of the desert.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he does just sort of throw in the romantic
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  Speaker 2: stuff at the beginning. In the end, it's like Kurt
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  Speaker 2: Cobain's suicide note right where it's just all a fan letter,
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  Speaker 2: and then there's four suicide lines in different handwriting at
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  Speaker 2: the end, and everyone was like, yeah, he obviously killed himself.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Should we read the whole letter?
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  Speaker 3: Yes? Please?
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  Speaker 2: Here it goes. It's a little long, but not that long. Nicole,
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully you're doing well and you realize you need to
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  Speaker 2: quit fucking with Sedale and come home to your doctor.
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  Speaker 2: I will take care of you, baby girl. I should
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  Speaker 2: clarify there Sedale Sedale Threat, who was an NBA player
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  Speaker 2: that Nicole was married to at the time.
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  Speaker 3: She no longer is lacas any back in the day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so doctor Dre is breaking up a happy home.
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  Speaker 2: Here a second part of the letter. I'm in Nevada
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  Speaker 2: with Hype looking at spots for this new video. We're
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  Speaker 2: shooting for that single I told you Pak is gonna
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  Speaker 2: be on once he's out. It's called California Love. We
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  Speaker 2: met a bunch of crazy, naked motherfuckers in the desert today.
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  Speaker 2: They were putting up some type of giant wood. Man.
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  Speaker 2: I guess they have a big party here for a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of days. I asked them how much they made
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  Speaker 2: or shit. God, his handwriting.
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  Speaker 3: Sucks, hey, kind of good joke. About his handwriting sucks
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  Speaker 3: because he's a doctor. Okay, that's all I want to say.
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  Speaker 2: It was solid. I asked them how much they pay.
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  Speaker 2: They said nothing. I was like, no money. Someone should
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  Speaker 2: get behind this shit and make some loot off these fools.
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  Speaker 2: Because they said there will be at least five thousand people.
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  Speaker 2: I think I'll have my office look into it just
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  Speaker 2: to see if there's easy money to be had here.
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  Speaker 2: I'm about to pass out.
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  Speaker 3: Girl.
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  Speaker 2: Wish I was up in that ass. See you back
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  Speaker 2: in La Dre. I love the ending of that letter.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, And can I say something, You've read that with
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  Speaker 3: the same excitement on the particular past of that letter
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  Speaker 3: where he put it at, because that letter is loaded.
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  Speaker 3: If that letter mentions breaking up a home between neck
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  Speaker 3: Nicole and Sidel, it mentions the beginning's a burning man,
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  Speaker 3: It mentions him hanging with Hype Williams, it mentions Tupac
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  Speaker 3: coming home, and just at the end of put the
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  Speaker 3: cherry on top, I wish I was up in that ass. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It checks a lot of boxes. It does a short
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  Speaker 2: amount of time. It's like a Beatles song. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of things are happening, but it's only like two minutes
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  Speaker 2: and twelve seconds.
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  Speaker 3: This ship belongs to the fucking Smithsonian or something. This
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  Speaker 3: is a history. This documents so many things in this
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  Speaker 3: one day.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder where this letter is besides just on this
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  Speaker 2: tumbler account that is solely dedicated to this Doctor Dre letter.
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  Speaker 3: This fucking hip hop history. He's his on wing.
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  Speaker 2: And here's the thing. It seems like a crazy theory
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  Speaker 2: still but not really Like once you hear that part
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  Speaker 2: of the letter. Doctor Dre by nineteen ninety five was
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  Speaker 2: doing really well. He was on death Row. Death Row
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  Speaker 2: was doing great by this point. They're talking about Tupacs
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  Speaker 2: All Eyes on Me album and that comes out like
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  Speaker 2: a few years into death Row being really huge. So
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  Speaker 2: he was probably looking for investments at the time. And
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  Speaker 2: what's weird is that letter was written in nineteen ninety five,
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  Speaker 2: and if you dig into the history of burning Man,
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  Speaker 2: that following year is the first time there is a
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  Speaker 2: formal business partnership set up to claim ownership of the
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  Speaker 2: name burning Man. So if it wasn't doctor Dre, someone
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  Speaker 2: shortly after he wrote this letter decided burning Man should
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  Speaker 2: be a business. And I mean coincidence, maybe.
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  Speaker 3: Possibly, I buy it a little bit just for the
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  Speaker 3: fact that again in that letter or where you read it,
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  Speaker 3: his focus seemed to be nine of tupacs home that
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  Speaker 3: this gathering is something, and that was the bulk of
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  Speaker 3: the letter. This gathering can be profitable, more so than
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  Speaker 3: qpoc asked and Hype Williams. That's what his focus was.
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  Speaker 3: This can be big.
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  Speaker 2: He's clearly excited about it.
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  Speaker 3: Right, it's not his venture. He just discovered he quote
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  Speaker 3: unquote discovered it, but he's really into this somehow. I
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  Speaker 3: wanted my people should do something.
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  Speaker 2: And here's the thing, not just does that formal partnership
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  Speaker 2: start the next year. Ever since then, burning Man has
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  Speaker 2: been run by an outfit called Blackrock LLC. So it's
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  Speaker 2: not really clear who the main person behind it is.
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  Speaker 2: And it's been that way also since doctor Dre wrote
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  Speaker 2: this letter. Also nineteen ninety six, last year they held
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  Speaker 2: burning Man without a fence around it. In ninety seven
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  Speaker 2: they put up a fence with just one point of
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  Speaker 2: entry so they could collect ticket money from everyone. And
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  Speaker 2: that's also the year tick It's went from thirty five
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  Speaker 2: dollars to sixty five to seventy five dollars. So someone
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  Speaker 2: stepped in in ninety six and decided to start making
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  Speaker 2: money off Burning Man.
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  Speaker 3: Is it possible that if let's assume dra is associated
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  Speaker 3: with somehow, just for the sake of the brand, to
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  Speaker 3: not in any way be publicly known, you know, to
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  Speaker 3: keep it the audience it is, you know what I mean, Like,
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  Speaker 3: let's not let people know Drey's any way financially linked
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  Speaker 3: to this to keep the perception.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think that's what it would have to be, right,
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  Speaker 2: because it would be a weird association that he would
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  Speaker 2: just get questions about for the rest of his life. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: and it would be a distraction. And also if you
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  Speaker 2: really dig into the details of what people allege happened here,
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  Speaker 2: the people behind Burning Man were having trouble coming up
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  Speaker 2: with the money to secure the permits to do it
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  Speaker 2: every year, and they argue that Dre stepped in and
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  Speaker 2: was like, well, I'll handle that every year in exchange
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  Speaker 2: for a cut of the ticket money, which for him,
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  Speaker 2: that's a really easy investment. He doesn't have to help
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  Speaker 2: run this thing, he doesn't have to plan it. He
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  Speaker 2: just pays a little money each year and gets a
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  Speaker 2: return on that money. I mean, I'm assuming he's not
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  Speaker 2: even paying the permits now he's probably just collecting money
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  Speaker 2: off it. If this is a real thing. So I
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  Speaker 2: believe this one. I mean, there's no way I can
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  Speaker 2: prove it, and it wouldn't be that like if someone
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  Speaker 2: did give me definitive proof, I'd be like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that does make sense. Like it's not that serious, right,
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  Speaker 2: It's almost not conspiracy.
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  Speaker 3: It's almost like just good business. Yeah, and everyone involved.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be a really smart investment on his
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  Speaker 2: part because again, really hands off, you don't have to
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  Speaker 2: do anything. Although what if he has secretly also been
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  Speaker 2: very involved in the planning all the art installations. The
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  Speaker 2: Burning Man probably has a Beat's logo on it somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: Now I can buy that, because if he's scoping video
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  Speaker 3: shoot locations, he's definitely micromanaging Burn Burning behind his scenes.
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  Speaker 2: They did move it shortly after this letter happened. They
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  Speaker 2: moved into a different location, so yeah, maybe Wow, maybe
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  Speaker 2: Hype Williams found that too.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, another silent investor.
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  Speaker 2: So I like that theory. I think I buy it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: This next one, though, I'm not quite so sure. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm also not quite unsure that three six Mafia are
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  Speaker 2: devil worshipers. This is ripped from the headlines because of
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  Speaker 2: a recent Bone thugs in harmony versus three six Mafia
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  Speaker 2: versus battle which turned into a fight because Busy Bone
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  Speaker 2: thought he was being mocked from the stage and man,
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  Speaker 2: Busy Bone is a loose fucking cannon.
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  Speaker 3: Love it every second of it. I saw it live.
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  Speaker 3: It was like NBA game. It got so chippy, it did.
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  Speaker 2: And they when that happened and they removed Busy Bone
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  Speaker 2: from the stage, Three six Mafia like they almost got
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  Speaker 2: inappropriate with the jokes. They were like, get him his pills, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because he's got like a long history of mental illness.
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  Speaker 3: They were low blows, a lot of low blows.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit. That all was precipitated by Busy Bone
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  Speaker 2: going on Instagram and putting up this, uh, very very
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  Speaker 2: very long Instagram post about how three six Mafia needed
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  Speaker 2: to denounce Satan at this versus battle and if they didn't,
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  Speaker 2: then they're devil worshipers.
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  Speaker 3: I call bullshit on Busy Sides, just for the fact
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  Speaker 3: that well one ninety percent of rappers have demonic imagery
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  Speaker 3: and their shit at some point. Two Bone has a
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  Speaker 3: lot of demonic shit in that early in imagery, a lot.
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  Speaker 3: And they addressed that I know, crazy said a lot
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  Speaker 3: of label execs pretty much control album art, things, promotion, shit,
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  Speaker 3: didn't put in what they want. Some to the rapid
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  Speaker 3: either go with it or maybe they lean into it
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  Speaker 3: and say, you know, fuck it. Yeah, we worked with
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  Speaker 3: the Devil, but a lot of rappers have that, and
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  Speaker 3: Bones not an exceptions, So that's a little hypocritical from
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  Speaker 3: Busy's part in my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like especially like around the time Bone
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  Speaker 2: first came out, which would have been it was like
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  Speaker 2: mid nineties, I think.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, round ninety four or five.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, especially with Southern rap, it seems like Hell
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  Speaker 2: and Things of the Life were a really big deal
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  Speaker 2: on album covers, and this is around the time like
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  Speaker 2: horror core starts and now you got motherfuckers like Tech nine,
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  Speaker 2: who probably is a fucking Devil worshiper. That motherfucker's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I think with Three six Mafia, it's more the name
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  Speaker 2: they chose, which I've actually always taken it as a
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  Speaker 2: gang reference because I grew up in the Midwest and
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: the two really big gangs in the Midwest are the
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  Speaker 2: Gangster Disciples and the Vice Lords, and Three six Mafias
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  Speaker 2: from Nashville. I think, which is basically the Midwest. It's
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  Speaker 2: like Cusp of the South, but still in the Midwest.
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  Speaker 2: And Gangster Disciples and Vice Lords are the two big
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  Speaker 2: gangs in the Midwest, and both of them, but especially
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  Speaker 2: Gangster Disciples, have a lot of satanic stuff in their
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  Speaker 2: imagery if you look into it, A lot of gangs
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  Speaker 2: do MS thirteen does. So I always just took this
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  Speaker 2: as a gang reference. And I was able to find
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  Speaker 2: a reference to six sixty six in the uh very
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  Speaker 2: wild Gangster Disciple literature that is posted on the internet,
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  Speaker 2: and it says six sixty six is a reference to
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  Speaker 2: three wars that happened in seventy six, eighty six, and
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  Speaker 2: ninety six. I don't know what those wars are. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: Gangster Disciples. We're working with the Reagan administration and fucking
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  Speaker 2: things up in South America. I have no idea, but uh,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what it means beyond that. But that's
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  Speaker 2: always what I thought this was. It was that a
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  Speaker 2: reference to that.
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  Speaker 3: That's interesting. You grew up in the Midwest, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: from the East Coast, so I took it at face
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  Speaker 3: value growing up. If it's three six mafia, I think
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  Speaker 3: this was a cool ast way, say he workship the Devil.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know about the Midwest gang life at that time,
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  Speaker 3: so I took it literal like most rappers. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it just kind of goes with hand in hand, like
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  Speaker 3: rock and roll. The Devil's there spot of the music.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the other thing. There's there's such a long,
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  Speaker 2: long history of rock musicians, like all kinds of artists,
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  Speaker 2: like all throughout history, especially with.
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  Speaker 3: Artists, yeah, all genres.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, using satanic imagery in one way or another,
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of cases just because it's provocative. Like
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  Speaker 2: if you go and look at Alice Cooper in his
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  Speaker 2: early days, he was just a shock to the sensibilities
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  Speaker 2: of so many people. But if you watch those concerts now,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, this is the corniest thing I've ever seen
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  Speaker 2: in my life. But he was at the time. It
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  Speaker 2: was very shocking, and he was just like he didn't
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  Speaker 2: actually want to murder little people on stage. He just
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  Speaker 2: made it look that way on stage because it was entertaining.
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  Speaker 2: Behind the scenes, he was like playing golf and starting
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: hot dog restaurants and shit. So yeah, it's a common
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: thing and it's hard to I don't doubt that there's
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: some some Satan worshipers in music. There's Satan, there's people
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: who worship Satan in real life. I don't know how
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: beneficial it is, but they do work a bunch of
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Satanic imagery into what they do. But also it seems
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: like it hasn't I mean, they want a Grammy, but
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like it's helped that much. It's not
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: like they've had a stranglehold on music this whole time.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: They had like that one moment when they got lucky
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: enough to be on the Hustle and Flow soundtrack. What
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: a great movie. And then after that it was they
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: were just back to like the master p of their region.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Maybe that was a deal. Hey, Satan, can we win
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: a Grammy? That's it? We want a Grammy. That's all. Really,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: that's not too much, is it? That Satan?
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: They should have asked, They should ask for more in retrospect.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you test it, like I doubt it works.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Holy shit, it worked, We should ask for more.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: It does make people want to talk about them, So
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: it's still a thing that's being brought up in twenty
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: twenty one when they embark on a versus battle. Also,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I don't really care. Like, if they want to worship Satan,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: fucking do it doesn't mean I have to. I don't
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: think they're gonna open any portals that are gonna send
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: demons into the world that are gonna destroy us. That's
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: just movie shit.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think DJ Paul isn't that much of
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: an alchemist. Also, it's just like, I don't know what
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: Busy's endgame is. What was with it? Like, Okay, I
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: think this hype just to show just like wrestling, Like
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: it's because you can get attack any rapper. If that's
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: the case, he should have a long list of other
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: rappers will do the same thing, if not his own
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: group members. Like it's just come on, it's pointless.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And what was he gonna do if they did
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: denounce Satan, right? That would that would almost been more awkward,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: because then you gotta be like, uh, okay, I guess
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: we're done here. Thank you, I've been Busy bone. I'm
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: going to go back to the green room and not
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: participate in any of this.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because he's off his mizz.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: But all of that had said. When I was researching this,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: I found a very weird article from twenty thirteen it's
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: an interview with three six member Gangsta Boo, who was
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: the woman in the group. This article, it's an interview
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: on Yahoo Sports. Naturally, that's so weird. And it wasn't
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: just they posted an interview from somewhere else, like it
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: was one of their podcasts that interviewed her, and then
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: it all went up on Yahoo Sports. And in this interview,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: she talks a whole bunch about experimenting with witchcraft after
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: joining the group. Here is one of her quotes. I
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: dibbled and dabbled in witchcraft because I was young and
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I wanted to know what the dark side was about.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I've always heard about it, and we were in this
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: group called three six Mafia, so I wanted to be
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: as dark as possible. That's a weird quote, I guess.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, she was young at the time and people
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: experiment with stuff like that. But you would think even then,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: like upon joining the group, someone would have been like,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: by the way, the three sixth thing, it's just our name, Like, uh,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: we actually we go to church every Sunday, not the
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Church of Satan. It's all very pleasant, so don't don't
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: worry about that. Just just a name. She apparently was
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: not told that because she started dibbling and dabbling in witchcraft.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know if dibble is even a thing.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: It's not. But so so my thing is, did Yahoo
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Sports I can't remember did he ask her this or
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: did she just submit this information just just for the
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: hell of it, Like if no one asked you that,
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: that's pretty specific thing to bring up.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: No, I'm they did ask her about it. They asked
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: her about the the rumors that they were Satanists, because
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: even back in twenty thirteen, those rumors existed. I mean,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: that's gonna happen if you you call yourself three six mafia.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: They're not from the South, but they're sort of from
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: the South, and I imagine Satanic imagery goes over even
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: worse in the South than it does in other parts
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: of the country. The Bible boat, yeah, yeah, that's where
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: religious people are fucking getting bit by snakes on purpose
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: and talking in tongues and shit.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: It wait, why is Yahoo sports inquiry? It's just such?
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: What are they doing for this information? Are their stats
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: involved in this?
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: What's crazy is it's not even going to be the
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: last Yahoo article that we pull a reference from Yahoo.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you That's how you know if an outlet
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: is being monitored and controlled by the government, Like, I
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: am confident Yahoo is not. I'm confident in Newsweek is not.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I'm confident The Daily Beast is not, because they have
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: all recently covered very huge stories that should have been
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: huge on the Washington Post and the New York Times,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: but they just weren't for some reason. It's not like, like,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: how do you find out that there is a nationwide
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: network of like fifty thousand spies that the Department of
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Defense has been putting together for like the last ten
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: years And the Washington Post doesn't run that on the
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: front page. That is huge news and it was not
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: reported anywhere but Newsweek.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Wow, it's good to know. So those are the ones
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: that scene but to stand true.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you heard it here first, I trust you
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Newsweek and Yahoo Sports.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, hoosports is giving you hard hitting.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Shit, hard hitting satanic worship in rap music news. Here's
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: another quote from Gangstaboo. I bought a witchcraft book and
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: my mama put me out the house. It's not that
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I was sitting in the circle practicing Illuminati scriptures or whatever.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I was just young, and when you're young, you explore.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I was exploring, and I do like certain things about
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: the dark Side because it's mystic, it's wicked, it's sexy,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: you know. I like to be miss as. What are
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Illuminati scriptures? Is that a thing I should know about?
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I think? So I'm gonna look into that.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Can I find those online? Like the Gangster Disciples literature?
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: It's gotta be because and I'm sure you need to
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: obtaine so many bowls of knowledge.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to be knowledge of bowl.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Oh ooh, nailed it.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about this next theory. Do you
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: remember Troop?
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: I do. The clothing line.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Most people back in that time late eighties hip hop
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: was a staple.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. If anyone listening isn't familiar with what Troop clothing
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: looked like, go watch any ll cool Jay video from
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: his first two albums, like especially the video for I'm Bad.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: He's wearing all sorts of troupe in that it was
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: kind of expensive. It was a really cool clothing line
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: for a while. Yeah, and then all of a sudden
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: there were the rumors that they were owned by the KKK,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: and man, they were not able to beat those rumors,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: which is pretty crazy.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Pre Internet. Yeah, pre internet was good forgetting things started
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: worry by mouth, but it also can fuck you because
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: there's something bad, there's no way to get your word
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: out that it is wrong, so you kind of you
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: live and die by public opinion back then, so they
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: thought it it's true you finished.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And there were there were rumors like this about
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: a bunch of not a bunch, but a few different companies.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Snapple at one point people said was owned by the
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: KKK because one of the ships on their early packaging
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: was said to be a slave ship, but it was
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: actually a ship from the Boston Tea Party, so it
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: probably wasn't used for slaves until much later.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Right, like more recently. I didn't know the reason for that.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: I did know as the kid, we heard that, and
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: there was a time we all enjoyed drinking delicious Snapples.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: It was like, fuck, okay, we know the reason. We
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: just like, I guess it's KKK juice.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: That's Snapple, peach t M, that's living right there. Also Marlborough.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: It's not like an actual K, but if you look
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: at their logo, it says Marlborough and then there's this
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: shape above it that is like a rectangle, but then
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: there's like a V carved out in the middle, so
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: it looks like a K. And there's one of those
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: on each side of Marlborough's. And so people said that
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: means they're own by the KKK, and probably not. They
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: just like they just kill people like they don't they
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: don't discriminate.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Right, And I think that's what happens. When you smoke
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: and look at anything too long, you're going to find
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: three ks on it. Yeah, it's just a notable much
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: it's got it three ks.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: So Snapple and Marlborough obviously overcame these rumors. Troop did not.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: They were especially susceptible to it because their market was
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: pretty dominantly black and Hispanic, like according to their sales manager,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: it was ninety five percent black and Hispanic.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Right, So now goo, But it seems like the KKK
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: rumors would do more benefit for the other two brands
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: as opposed to Troop as well of a plus for
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: the other ones. Like you're drinking it, you pop a
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: snap WLL open and you read the top it says
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: whether late the late is KKK news that it is?
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: You say, hmm, yeah, you can see you're drinking it.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: But you're not. You're not way in Troop.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there would be a whole part of the nation
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: that would just embrace Snapple in Marlborough more right, even today, Yeah,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: that would happen. Maybe it's free speech, you can like
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: whoever you want exactly, But Troop it didn't go so well.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: One of the rumors was that because they were owned
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: by the KKK, the name Troop was actually an acronym
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: that meant to rule over oppressed people, which is crazy
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: because it choires that people believe the KKK thinks black
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: people are oppressed, and that is not their business model.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: They think black people need to be more oppressed, right
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: than getting too free in that it's threatening our white
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: way of life, So they're not. There's no way the
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: KKK would refer to black people as oppressed.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Don't you hear These kind of things always have slick
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: ass acronyms to try to help support it, like, oh,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: come on, it got I mean, look a look at true.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, look what it stands for. I mean it
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: makes sense right.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: What I don't get about it is what would be
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: the point, Like what, so you're selling clothes to black
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: people that'll show them like that's not right. You're not
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: really hurting anyone. You're just giving ll cool J recognizable
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: sweatshirts to wearing his videos.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: If anything, it was just a roomor started by a
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: rival clothing company, it's probably started by Clarl Kanai.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Damon John something like that. The other rumor was
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: that if you cut the line of the jacket open,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: there would be a slip of paper that said thank
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: you and word for making us rich. It's like, for
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: one thing, that would be an extra cost in the
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: production line that most companies just aren't gonna like. That
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: would be frivolous spending.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Two things. One no, and I could speak for all
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: black people and I say is if any black person
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: bought a troop jacket, I guarantee you we're not cutting
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: the shit up. And two if we did and sort
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: in there, that'd be so dope, Like I got the
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: authentic woman and that tells me. It's like says Nigga
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: or something like this, this is real shit like it, Yeah,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: you wouldn't have cared like one. When I find out
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: if it did, I'd be impressed, like, Wow, they went
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: to extra length. This is you should be charging more
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: for this. This is a Nigga edition.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Flip that on eBay put in parentheses. Original racist note included,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: oh SCLECTI six hundred, six hundred dollars coat.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Now every one thousand jackets has the N word in it.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: That's a good marketing tool.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: That's like a golden ticket to go. You get to
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: go visit the Troop headquarters, but they just don't let
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: you leave when you get there. Sure scary. This also,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: this Troop rumor, it led to like dueling ll cool
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: J rumors. One was that he went on Oprah and
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: publicly denounced Troop as being owned by the KKK. The
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: other rumor was that he was in the KKK and
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: was working on their behalf to promote Troop so black
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: people would buy it.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Between those two things you just said, the latter one
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: is the more believable because anyone knows Oprah, even at
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: that time, did not fuck with rappers, So Elokuj was enough. One.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: I doubt was an Oprah any time. Yeah, when he
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: was especially wearing Troop, So no, he was not an
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Oprah at any point. Yeah.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: There's another theory we didn't include on this list because
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: there wasn't much information about it, but there is a
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: conspiracy theory that claims rapper Big Daddy ca Ain went
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: on Oprah once and said he had aids like there
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: would be video of that. It's Oprah. It's not like
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: they're burning the tapes afterwards.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Again see first one. No rappers on Oprah in the eighties.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: It just wasn't happening.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: So this rumor about Troop was not true. They were
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: owned by two Jewish dudes and a Korean guy, and
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: at one point their sales manager, a black man named
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Wesley Mallory, sliced open the linings of a bunch of
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Troop jackets during a press conference to prove that the
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: rumors were false. But it did not matter. They were
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: bankrupt within five years of forming.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Wait was that the twist? They're kind of like a
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: twist when you revealed who really owned it.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's still some weird racial connotations, you know.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: What I mean? Like either way, it's like whoa what
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: are we doing?
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely not for us, by us. That was
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: a whole it was a whole different brand.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Like look, no kkk, we just got two Jewish guys
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: a Korean guy, but a black guy is the sales
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: manager and He's pretty good, that's all.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, weird makeup of that board.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Now, Sureville Will was I think the I'm gonna pubout that.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: I think it was Coconi then, yeah, now that makes sense.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I mean Carl and I did take off pretty shortly
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: after this. Yeah, I looked it up recently. He's still
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: making clothes.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah he is. He just you find him now like unfortunately,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: like TJ. Maxis like he's been downgraded. Yeah, not cool anymore.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: I guess let's bring that shit back. Should be back
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: by now, right, it's the nineties. We should be wearing Coconai,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: big ass sweat is now and shit cross colors, normal
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Polo Calkara, I'm saying that.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, bring back cross colors. I want to wear some
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: gigantic green jeans next time I'm Mountain Public.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Hell yeah it was some tombs.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about another theory. I had never heard of
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: this one. This is not really a conspiracy theory. It's
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: more of a rumor that has been spreading for I
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: guess around twenty years now, which is that styles p
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: from the Locks has a a verse out there where
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: he disses Aaliyah shortly after she died, and people really
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: like Aaliyah, so they're not going to take kindly to
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: that news.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: This was news to me.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had never heard of this. But back around
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: the time she died, styles P was involved in a
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: beef with Damon Dash from Rockefeller Records, and Aliyah was
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: dating Damon Dash. So at some point during this conflict,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: styles Pe is alleged to have said this in a
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: verse Rock the Boat, Rock the Boat. That's one less
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: bitch in a rockaware coat, which yikes, because she was
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: filming the Rock the Boat video before she died, That's
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: why she was in the I believe. Yes, So, uh,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: that would be a very harsh thing to say.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: I would doubt someone would say that back then, but
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: it wouldn't be styles P of all people. But I
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: wouldn't doubts somebody would. Some bullshit rookie rap at the
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: time would have said that just to could arise out
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: of people for atention or eminem.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Eminem would have said some shit like that. Maybe maybe not.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: He would lost a lot. I don't think he would
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: have risk pissing off his black fans with that one.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: That's risky. Yeah, that shocks shit.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah that that that would be quite the risk yeah,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: and the whole the whole problem with this rumor is
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: that it is not true. There is audio of what
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: is alleged to be that verse, and it sounds very fake.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: One of the things you hear about audio that's been doctored,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: especially to make it seem like someone's voice is on
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: it who actually isn't. One of the things you want
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: to do is put a lot of background noise in
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: that recording, so it's a little bit harder to suss
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: out if it's real or fake. So, uh, with that said,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I'm going to play a little bit of this recording
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: that was finally posted that is alleged to be this
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: styles P verse. Here we go.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Yet here's the thing that doesn't need to sound like.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Either of it, because this is supposed to be Jada
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: kissing styles Pe, but it doesn't sound like at all.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: So this video is it's like a minute long. We'll
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: link to it. But you do eventually hear what is
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: suppose who is supposed to be styles P saying that
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: line in that recording, But someone eventually came forward and
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: said that recording was fake and that they made it.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: This is a quote me and my friend did the
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: shit initially to piss off some Rockefeller fans. I did
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: the voice of both Jada and Styles and my friend
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: mixed it. The sound authentic. We used three different crowds,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: not looped, but chopped and layered over each other. We
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: had it hosted on a web page so folks could
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: listen but not download. It could have been Geo Cities
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: or something. My homie handled that part. So I don't
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: think this one is real. I think styles Pea's innocent
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: and I'm going to get that printed on T shirts.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I rocket.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: In twenty fourteen, styles p commented on this audio after
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: finally hearing it. Here's his quote. This was during a
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Reddit ama. I just heard it, and all I have
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: to say to that is when did I ever have
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: that flow? When was I ever whack I can? Yeah,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: that's a good defense. Locks have been pretty great forever.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: So that one's not true, and it was a little
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: unbelievable from the beginning. Now let's talk about one that's
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: a little more believable. Sliceberg Nicki Minaj is actually jay Z.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Sorry to just drop that on you.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: But yeah, you got a spoiler alert. As a producer,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: I will say this, it is very easy to fuck
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: with the vocals to make it do what you want
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: or need to sound like it's not hard, especially to
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: say native technology. It's even easier now.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they've like we've had technology to alter voices for
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: a long time, Like even auto tune is like twenty
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: five years old by now, Like stuff like this has
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: been out there, and the theory here, this is one
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: of my favorite ones on the list, just because the
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: video sounds so crazy. The theory is that in the studio,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: jay Z is recording all of these Nicki Minaj songs
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: and her vocals are actually just jay Z sped up.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: And then the person we know is Nicki Minaj is
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: just the face of all this, and she's like, I
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: guess she's lip syncing in public? What does her real
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: voice sound like?
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: See, just this is bad because it's just another thing
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: to discredit female rappers Like it's it's it's unnecessary and
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: and it wouldn't make any sense, like does better ways
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: of attempting this. It seems like something you would do
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: like back in the old days, maybe like if you
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: didn't want girls in the studio, Like it it's just weird,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: No, Yeah, it there was that thing for a while,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: like the Milli Vanilli thing, where not just them, but
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: a bunch of different groups would have studio musicians and
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: then in the video it would just be people kind
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: of pantomiming ll cool Jay did it. He had the
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: in the video for doing it. Yeah, instead of just
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: having the woman who he did that song with in.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: The video, Lashawan.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a bunch of models lip sync her lyrics.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Do you though she was quote unquote too heavy?
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a bad look for Elo cool J. And
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: if that ever gets dug up again, So yeah, I
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: could have seen something like maybe it being something like that,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: But this is crazy. Nicki Minaj did say she's very
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: obsessed with jay Z and that's why she named one
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: of her albums the pink Print. It's like her version
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: of the Blueprint, all right, But what seems the dumbest
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: about this theory to me? If jay Z wanted a
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: female artist out there who was spitting his rhymes, he
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: could just write her rhymes, like you just find someone
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: with a decent voice who can deliver those rhymes adequately,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: and you just do that like that. I think we've
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: kind of passed the days where that's as frowned upon
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: as it used to be. Yeah, like Cardi B doesn't
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: write her rhymes and people don't give a shit, Like
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: jay Z could just do that.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: And why would he make double work for himself? Why
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: would he? Why would he do your home work? Two? Yeah,
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: it's that's actually worked for him, Like what the fuck it?
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: And it seems like this all stems from a twenty
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: fourteen MTV article where the author ran a Nicki Minaj
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: song through an app called video Star to slow down
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: the vocals, and when they did, it sounded like jay Z.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: And that part's true. There's a whole SoundCloud dedicated to
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Nicki Minaj songs that are slowed down to sound like
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: jay Z. But there's also a good chance they're not
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: just being slowed down like I think in a lot
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: of these examples, the voice is being tweaked a little
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: bit more than that. So let's listen. Let's listen to
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Uh this is I believe super bass but slowed down
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: to yourselves, people listening.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: When you come up in a club and be blazing
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: enough going deck like you saving up and help he failed,
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: He might beta del he a nigga, that right, He don't.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: He might help.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: He always in the air, but they have a black
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: couch and drug that does sound like chazy, yes, excuse me,
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: and I find that very fun.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: But you can also tell that voice is still being
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: manipulated in some way, like it doesn't exactly sound like.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: The picture.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: The thumbnail on this video is horrifying. Okay, is that
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: what jay Z sounds like when he sings? I doubt it.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: No, you see, it's the it's the the fact that
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: she kind of rhyme. She rhymes in this same similar cadence. Yeah,
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: So you slow it down too, because the way have
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: voice it made you know, it's done on purpose from
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: her part as far as style, But some people do
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: sound like people. If you play with the temple of
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: someone's voice, you can alter it to sound.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, and even her having a similar flow or
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: cadence when you take into account how obsessed with jay
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Z she said she is. That just I mean, she
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: was just influenced by jay Z, right, Like that's all
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: that's all that would be, Like musicians are influenced by
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: other musicians all the time. Also, it doesn't work quite
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: as well when you just speed up jay z lyrics
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: to make them sound like Nicki Minaj. Let's uh listen
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: to a example of that. This is drunk in Love
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: by Beyonce sped up, try to back up that mouth like,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone would hear that and go, oh,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: that's Nicki Minaj. Like there's similarities, but not like not enough.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I fucking love Drunken Love. That was a good song.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know about this one. No,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Nicki Minaj is not actually jay Z.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: It's just an example of just playing with audio.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is. That is the first half of this episode.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: I made the right choice splitting this up with this
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: would have been two hours long. On the next episode,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Part two, we're gonna run through the final five, kicking
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: off with possibly my favorite one on the whole list,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: which is that Shakira and Pitbull. Uh predicted a horrible
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: tragedy that happened in the twenty tens.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Totally true.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that one, I do belief, So be on the
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: lookout for that. Until then, Do we have anything to
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: plug before we get out of here? Slice Burg how
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: about you?
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, I have a new album out on my
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: bank camp. It's called She Her You can check it
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: out my bank camp slice Burg slim dot bankcamp dot com.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: I don't really have anything to plug. Patreon dot com,
• 44:29
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• 44:32
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• 44:42
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• 44:46
  Speaker 2: all right, and that's it. Let's get the fuck out
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: of here. Slice Burg say goodbye, goodbye people, goodbye everybody.
• 44:53
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