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- 0:47Hello and welcome to the inaugural episode of Scots with
- 0:50a Mic. Whether you're a new listener or
- 0:53from the Scots Abroad Days, we're excited to have you here
- 0:55as we go. For this new chapter, we're
- 0:57expanding from covering Scots abroad to know all things
- 1:00Scottish football. From the highs and heart breaks
- 1:02at Hampden to the chaos of the lower leagues, If it's happening
- 1:06in Scottish football, we'll be talking about it.
- 1:08Today I'm your host Finn Crocker, and today I'm joined by
- 1:11Aaron McIntosh, Joe Mctagger and James Scott.
- 1:16So let's start with the main story of yesterday at Scotch Cup
- 1:21final. Joe's The Celtic fan.
- 1:22How you feeling? I'm feeling better and hi on on
- 1:28the whole congratulations to Aberdeen.
- 1:30Celtic kind of have many complaints for how how they can
- 1:33finish. They did the damage themselves
- 1:36and I'm just very grateful than making about for a second.
- 1:40Yes, Aberdeen's first Scottish Cup in 35 years, last one in
- 1:441990. That was also when on penalties
- 1:47against Celtic. Obviously that was way back.
- 1:49Alex Smith was the manager then McGregor after the game said it
- 1:53was the worst moment of his football career.
- 1:56Jack Milne said it was the best day of his life of the mix of
- 1:59emotions. What do you guys think?
- 2:03Well, from my point of view, I think Aberdeen were the better
- 2:05team. I have to admit that.
- 2:07I think first half I have to see.
- 2:09I've seen their cup finals and cup finals aren't.
- 2:11Normally you know one of the. Probably the worst games of the
- 2:14season. They're normally spectacular.
- 2:17They they drag out, they they do take.
- 2:20And to be nervous and I think Aberdeen on the whole we're
- 2:22good, but they didn't really do anything to the second-half.
- 2:25Think Celtic, you've seen Celtic much better than what they were
- 2:27yesterday. First half particular.
- 2:30But then the second-half I thought was more of an ending
- 2:32game. Aberdeen, I think they just went
- 2:35no, what? We've got nothing to lose now,
- 2:36let's just go for it. Celtic obviously want to try
- 2:38and. Cut out it's.
- 2:40Two of the sloppiest goals you've ever seen in your.
- 2:42Life Final. And in a big occasion.
- 2:45But the more was going on, you know, you gradually thought.
- 2:49Aberdeen were going to do. It just just sense that was
- 2:52going to happen. Celtics were trying to kill them
- 2:53off, didn't happen. Then Aberdeen got.
- 2:55The goal and then. We went and just shifted, just
- 2:57shifted. After then.
- 2:59I think the moment I thought they were going to do it is when
- 3:02Maida missed, I think. I think it was just.
- 3:04Before it build time. Wasn't it?
- 3:06But 93rd minute or something like?
- 3:08That minute you'd. Back him when you you'd back
- 3:10him. I don't know.
- 3:13Obviously player of the year, he's got so much ability in his
- 3:16you. Know he he.
- 3:18Pulled back himself to score. That goal, but.
- 3:21You know, as soon as that happened, you just sensed it
- 3:23might just be Aberdeen's day and congratulations to them.
- 3:25I think you must have had a good fan in Glasgow.
- 3:29Yeah, I mean trying to be unbiased as possible in the
- 3:31podcast, but you know, I am an Aberdeen fan.
- 3:34I was there yesterday. Well, obviously the Heads fans
- 3:37will be annoyed that bumps them down from a guaranteed spot in
- 3:41Europe to qualifying round two, I think in the Europe league.
- 3:46But you know, I think on the day being there, it's hard to judge
- 3:50the real quality of the game. Probably one of the best as a
- 3:53supporter I've ever seen. I was I was at Darville when we
- 3:55lost and now I'm I was at the Scotch Cup final.
- 4:01I think it really showed the difference for me was demos for
- 4:05meet off. He was arguably my man of the
- 4:07match. Obviously like that the my the
- 4:09chance you mentioned, I think it was it was a bad miss, but it
- 4:13was an even better save from my point of view.
- 4:17And the penalties on penalties. It's such a contrast to last
- 4:20year's semifinal. Kelly Bruce was in goal for the
- 4:23last year. You'll know about him.
- 4:25I don't I don't think he dive. I don't think he even dived
- 4:27direct way once last year. I actually think Keller roof
- 4:31caused it. I would be not a semifinal kids.
- 4:34He bring down the injured Ryan Duncan's penalty.
- 4:38Yeah, Ryan Duncan's to wait another minute or so.
- 4:41And yeah, I'm putting yourself in Ryan Duncan's position for
- 4:44that semi final. I mean, that penalty, I don't
- 4:48get any. He may even be younger than me.
- 4:49I'm 21 and like that. That manager's going to get in
- 4:53your head against Joe Hart is such a seething professional.
- 4:56I mean, also just getting little and what's there for him by the
- 5:01sanction. Yeah, I mean, he was.
- 5:03He was 20 last year in semi in the semi final.
- 5:07Such a young a young player to be put under that pressure.
- 5:12But Kelly Ross, yeah, didn't even dive the right way for one
- 5:14of the penalties. And then you look at Dermot, our
- 5:16meet of steps up, some massive saves in the game.
- 5:19Even before them I had the chance.
- 5:21OK. I think it was clear I have got
- 5:25a pay this. I think I should have made a
- 5:27lift of the amount of both that you said yesterday.
- 5:29Carl McGregor was one of them. Michael Stewart said that.
- 5:32Brendan Rodgers said that. That penalty sure as well once I
- 5:36couldn't agree less. I mean, I think it was clear to
- 5:39be a good practice penalty more and not one Aberdeen the cup
- 5:42final, yeah, absolutely. Most penalty by Aberdeen were
- 5:45four of the best I've ever seen. And Celtic, I mean, karma, David
- 5:501 was really bad. But I mean, pretty obviously
- 5:55early on, who'd been practiced and then that ultimately that
- 5:58was one minute. Yeah.
- 6:01Alison Johnson, the one that missed the decisive penalty.
- 6:04First silverware since I think 2014 against Inverness.
- 6:07But, you know, it's League Cup. It's the first major, major
- 6:10trophy since 1990. Like I said, it denied Celtic
- 6:14the ninth ever domestic treble. Can move on to 202425.
- 6:18Recap. Obviously, Joe, you've written
- 6:21the article that we posted last week on our newsletter.
- 6:24But just to sum up, Celtic winning the league as usual, St.
- 6:28Johnson relegated after 16 seasons in the top flat.
- 6:30I think artist, that's the third longest run, fourth longest run,
- 6:35something like that. Fourth, yeah, 4th on this run.
- 6:38I think it's for a club their size that is incredible.
- 6:41Obviously they did the double 2021 as well, but this isn't
- 6:45overall if you look at the quality that that they put on
- 6:48the pitch of the change manager's mid season.
- 6:50But it wasn't enough for them. I think the, I think it's been
- 6:54some time for Saint Johnstone. I think after the the cup
- 6:57double, it's just been going gradually down downhill and you
- 7:02know, that's the, you know, that's the peak that's the
- 7:04highest you'll ever get, you know, for a club that size and
- 7:07you're just. Going to go.
- 7:09Downhill and there's there's no doubt about that and I think
- 7:13they've had, they've done very well done for a team that I
- 7:15think do have a limited budget. I've stayed.
- 7:17In that league for that long, when you consider some of the
- 7:20things in the Championship and for so long have been stuck.
- 7:24In there I mean. There's been bigger clubs in the
- 7:25Championship in. League One and.
- 7:28They've stayed there and they've been a credit to them.
- 7:31And I think obviously maybe it's not, it's not the end of the
- 7:33world going to the Championship. It will be a hard league and but
- 7:38no, I think they'll count themselves OK in that league
- 7:39next year. It just depends what happens
- 7:41with Lovingston and Ross County. But I think they've been the
- 7:46credit to the framership and the credit to the smaller clubs in
- 7:49the league. I think, I think they got quite
- 7:50unlucky with the the coefficient back in, back in 2021.
- 7:54Obviously I already know after they've won it, they've they've
- 7:57guaranteed league phase at least eight games including the
- 8:00playoffs. In 2021, obviously the
- 8:03coefficient was below 12th, so there wasn't that guaranteed
- 8:08league phase for the cup winner. And I was at the playoff game,
- 8:12the, I think it was a conference league.
- 8:13I think it was the first, I think it was the inaugural
- 8:16season, yeah. And it was the playoff against
- 8:19LASK after they had. That's right, yeah.
- 8:21Lost to Galatasaray after getting a draw, I think at home.
- 8:26And I was at that game and they should have won it.
- 8:29There was a red card that was questionable.
- 8:34And I think a guaranteed league phase.
- 8:37I think it was something like it's guaranteed 5 million even
- 8:40if you just go into the conference, they can finish
- 8:43bottom and 5 million to Club Lex and Johnston is survival for
- 8:48years upon years. That that's a decent plain
- 8:50budget for a while and you know, see you.
- 8:52Know all the money that. Comes with that, you know.
- 8:54You know. Not just to players, but review
- 8:57into the club 5. Minutes for Saint John's.
- 9:00Would be amazing and. The fans were probably the least
- 9:03surprised that everyone. They're probably surprised that
- 9:06it hasn't come soon after they had that great season four years
- 9:10ago. They sold their two best players
- 9:13in Jason, Karen, Allen, McCann for probably what could have
- 9:15been a bit more money. I I would say probably not
- 9:18invested that money well enough or they've not got enough for
- 9:21it. And since then the the funds
- 9:23have recognized that it's probably that relegation after
- 9:28losing to Hearts and also the draw in Dundee.
- 9:32It was it was coming for a while.
- 9:34They're probably the price. I'm so fortunate to hold on as
- 9:38long as they did. They got to make some results,
- 9:39including against Celtic. But then I think St.
- 9:44Johnstone are one of these clubs and I read that they got the
- 9:46throne of Livingston last season.
- 9:48But I think St. Johnson can actually benefit
- 9:51from going to Championship long term.
- 9:52It could be one step back to eventually go through three
- 9:56steps forward. Yeah, I think, I think it was a
- 9:59postponed relegation. I mean, if it wasn't for Sudib
- 10:02and Kompioka, I think they could have gone down a lot earlier as
- 10:05well as some a few other players like maybe meet off last season.
- 10:09I mean, Falkirk did slip up at the tail end of the season.
- 10:14They almost had step, but they did hold on.
- 10:17They're back. They're back in the Premiership.
- 10:20How excited are you to see Scott Scott Arfield back in the
- 10:22Premiership? He's probably he was probably
- 10:27the the, the player that changed the whole momentum around really
- 10:30when. You think about, I think.
- 10:30Faulkner could be on their debut.
- 10:32Patrick on his debut. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
- 10:34Yeah, Falkirk have been top since match the E.
- 10:36And the in the in. The championship they've been,
- 10:38they've been consistent all the way to 30 games when you think.
- 10:41About it, They've been top. And they've just about slipped.
- 10:44Up in the end, but. You know, that's the that's the
- 10:47signing or that's the thing that's probably sealed the
- 10:50thing. We can't, we can't If Scott
- 10:53Artfield doesn't come, I don't think Folkert win it because
- 10:56you're such an influential player, you should be playing at
- 10:58a higher level than Scottish Championship.
- 11:04It was, it was an interesting gamble and I'm probably more
- 11:08excited to see her, John McGinn, John Mcguin does than Scott Art
- 11:10Field to be honest. And because especially the
- 11:14Celtic fan, I don't know what you're on about.
- 11:16Listen, I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to.
- 11:22No, I think John McGlynn obviously took a bit of a hit
- 11:26after his last managing real gig.
- 11:30And then listen, that softball could come to park.
- 11:32It was last August, September, yeah, September.
- 11:36And they went ahead twice and they really brought the game to
- 11:38South. Can doesn't really like it.
- 11:41Well, they rotated squad by all means, but I mean of the quality
- 11:44on that part should be played before quick off the back before
- 11:47Kirk for outstanding. And I'm interested to see is you
- 11:53can argue that that's just it's a one off club game.
- 11:56There are something going to happen with it.
- 11:58They get beat anyway. I'm interested to see if they,
- 12:00excuse me, if they keep that up for a whole 30 game season or if
- 12:06Mcguiner is just going to be a little bit more pragmatic.
- 12:09I love. I'm obviously I'm also surprised
- 12:12that there's not been more talk about John Mcglenn going
- 12:16elsewhere. How many premiership teams are
- 12:18there looking for ages at 4:00? 4.
- 12:21Yeah, I mean, I think that I think that shows its commitment
- 12:24to Falkirk because if they wanted to go to one of these
- 12:28teams, them convinced he could get one of them no problem.
- 12:31And so he's obviously committed behind the scenes there all
- 12:35couldn't say that you don't see it for another year and wants to
- 12:37see what you can do. I think there's a real reason
- 12:39why we can't get excited then a lot of folks understandably
- 12:44because of how Steve Parker done looked at that kind of seem that
- 12:47he was the preference predecessor for Scott, manager
- 12:51of Naglind as well for Kirk and maybe goes on to finger back the
- 12:55hearts or if he's to go to typically top 7 club in
- 12:58Scotland, but don't see why he can't take that role instead.
- 13:02Yeah, because like see previously when John obviously
- 13:05went was at Livingston and Hearts, he was at way back.
- 13:08He obviously made that step up from the Rovers back then going
- 13:12to Hearts quite a big gig. But I think even in the loving
- 13:15someone as well, both, both jobs he had were Hanford financially
- 13:20and he didn't really get a fair crack at the whip and as an
- 13:23overs fan. I've seen John over the years,
- 13:25good manager, nice guy. You know, he's been he's done
- 13:28the rounds around Scottish football.
- 13:30He's been a manager for a good few years now.
- 13:32It'll be nice to see him getting a go at the Premiership again
- 13:36with a team that's, I mean, you'd say Falkirk is not a good
- 13:38possession going up. Like you said, they're playing
- 13:41good football. Like everyone's quite excited to
- 13:43see what they can maybe do. So yeah, be nice on a personal
- 13:46level for him. I'm glad that he's finally
- 13:48managed to get back to the Premiership and that he's he's
- 13:51in, he's got the, the foundation is to make one sure what, what
- 13:55he can do. I think what Falkirk need.
- 13:58Just to close it off really is I think he just.
- 14:01Needs a natural #9 and that and. They've not.
- 14:05They've shared the goals around in the Championship and that no,
- 14:09there's no reason to say why that won't work in the
- 14:11Premiership. But.
- 14:13Let's see, let's use done views, an example.
- 14:15If you don't have Simon Murray, then you know, where would
- 14:18Dundee finish? I mean, so you don't know.
- 14:21I don't. It's hard to see right now what
- 14:23poker can do because obviously. The windows not open really.
- 14:26Officially yet, but I want to If they got somebody who can score
- 14:31goals regularly even when they're not playing well enough,
- 14:34then that could be the thing that keeps them up.
- 14:38Or maybe even takes them up to. Top 6.
- 14:41You mentioned Joe, the managerial kind of switch about
- 14:47I think it was earlier this week.
- 14:48I can't remember this week or last week, but Michael Wimmer
- 14:53resigned from Motherwell. He's he's joined third tier
- 14:56sides. John Regensburg, sorry if I've
- 14:58been. Great pronunciation.
- 15:01Then as a, then as a language. And you did that right?
- 15:05Do you want to do the honor of Joe?
- 15:07How are you? How do you, how are you supposed
- 15:08to say that, Dean? Jan Ravensburg But you did well
- 15:12then. There we go, see like an expert.
- 15:13I'll take it. So yeah, Motherwell without a
- 15:16manager, Kilmarnock without a manager.
- 15:19Now after obviously joined Hearts earlier and the book is
- 15:25Stuart Kettlewell's now among the favorites for the Kilmarnock
- 15:28job. Obviously ex Motherwell manager,
- 15:30but more on the Motherwell side. Who do you think could take over
- 15:34there, if any ideas there? That's a hard one.
- 15:39Wasn't because this, you know, it's what I'll be looking for
- 15:42though. That's the thing.
- 15:42I mean, it's only just happened. Recently looking for.
- 15:47Somebody to get them. Sorry sorry Anne the two the two
- 15:52that come to my mind but both depend on different things.
- 15:56First the first question that I'd be asking if I was up for
- 15:58the job was what is success. I call but mother all yeah, I
- 16:03don't know if they're looking to a lot of thought looking
- 16:07wouldn't be looking to do this, but also a lot of people see
- 16:10Scottish ribbons, the top 2 and the rest.
- 16:13We're probably getting to the stage especially that I think
- 16:17McInnes is going to have Hearts. I generally I think it's going
- 16:20to be top to the written the next three and then the rest
- 16:25yeah, Hearts and Aberdeen maybe a bit harsher than the United
- 16:30there. So as the Motherwell manager's
- 16:34definition that's going to be breaking into top five, getting
- 16:38top six, avoid the relegation, try and win a cup, but I'm
- 16:42really unsure. But straight away, the first two
- 16:44names that I was thinking of and with Kettlewell almost
- 16:48definitely getting the killer job according to the sky.
- 16:51And I can see David Naismith put in it's hat in the ring.
- 16:55But I've heard that he's not in a rush to get back into
- 16:59management unless it's absolutely perfect for him.
- 17:02Another one's Tony Dock, I imagine, ready to get straight
- 17:05back into management because I can't imagine that that that
- 17:11second was expected for him. Yeah, I mean, we've mentioned
- 17:16the ones that are officially looking at the clubs that are
- 17:18officially looking for a new manager.
- 17:20But obviously with the takeover Illuminate Rangers, they will
- 17:25probably looking for a manager in the summer.
- 17:27That they've made contact reportedly with Angelotti son
- 17:29that the V day Angelotti, Russell Martin, among others,
- 17:33but objected so far Gerrard could could be back in the job.
- 17:40What do you guys think? I wouldn't appoint him.
- 17:43That's there's. There's only so much like old
- 17:46Stalinger and Rogers is different because that's proven
- 17:50success. You know, yes, Jared won.
- 17:53The title in 2021, but one title, 9 trophies up for grabs
- 18:01and let's be honest, since we're leaving Rangers, you didn't do a
- 18:04good job at Aston Villa. You could see get them up and he
- 18:08played all right, but looking at Aston Villa now that they won't
- 18:12want to stay up in the they want to not only just in the penalty,
- 18:14they're going for Europe. So and then going to Saudi
- 18:17Arabia is probably the thing that's probably going to kill
- 18:19him a job, but. Yeah, I like the fact I think
- 18:23there were the relegations on in Saudi Arabia for for most of the
- 18:26season. I mean, going to Saudi Arabia,
- 18:29it's for the money. But in a league like that, you
- 18:32do not want to be battling down the bottom of the league.
- 18:34Sorry, those names you mentioned there, Russell Martin was the
- 18:36one that so caught my ear the most just because Swansea did
- 18:41quite well. I got his move to Southampton.
- 18:44It's not gone great. I think we've got a look at
- 18:47their season sales. Pretty shocking.
- 18:48But I think he's, we all know like managers trajectories and
- 18:53typically just linear straight up.
- 18:54They're going to have bumps in the roads where they learn
- 18:56different things. And I think, yeah, Sean about
- 18:58equality, obviously through Swanson, hopefully he's learned
- 19:02from his time at Southampton as well.
- 19:05I I think that'd be quite a good actually like to get him on
- 19:07board would be quite a good one, I feel.
- 19:10Yeah, isn't If I'm not, he's the next.
- 19:12Player, yeah, he's there for, there for.
- 19:16About half a season, I think it was if I'm writing scene.
- 19:20Yeah, I, I, I read, I'm happy to be corrected here.
- 19:24I'm reading that it's a note a couple about a week ago.
- 19:27Yeah, that's what I heard as well.
- 19:29I think he wants. I think he wants to get back
- 19:31into the English. Football, and it looks like
- 19:33Lester's probably. The way that he's going.
- 19:35To go if. Reports are.
- 19:36Saying well. I think they're going to, I
- 19:39think they're going to go for Gerard.
- 19:41But I'm you're right. I'm actually, I'm actually open
- 19:45against managers coming back for a second then obviously.
- 19:49So that's I've gone against that with with Len and Ann Rogers and
- 19:53they've done well. But I just think in general
- 19:55you're you're asking for trouble more than anything.
- 19:58But Gerard, what would be interesting was who who back
- 20:00from staff would be Bill, Bill, Michael.
- 20:04Bill did such a big part in Gerard's success.
- 20:07I'm not going to come out and say that achieved the success,
- 20:10but at the top was that he was the main man and.
- 20:14If he's not going to be happy, come back as a former manager to
- 20:17be #2 he cannot come back either.
- 20:21He cannot come back after the Twitter scandal as well.
- 20:23There's no chance. No, I think, I don't think Jared
- 20:30would succeed coming back. And seriously, I can see this
- 20:32being put in a year after one of treble.
- 20:36But I, I, I'm not overly convinced by Angelotti either.
- 20:41Want it purely because you've got, you've got much, much of
- 20:45any experience as an actual manager, but like, you've got to
- 20:48start somewhere, haven't you? Obviously you're kind about
- 20:52everyone has to learn somewhere and that's true.
- 20:54The only thing it has been Rangers fans being like hungry
- 20:57for success as they are and wanting to get back to where
- 21:01they should be as well or not. A guy like that feels like he's
- 21:05going to get the time to maybe like work his craft and build up
- 21:11to becoming, you know, get into them where they are.
- 21:13Because I feel like in the past when things have gone wrong at
- 21:17the first heart of the new managers at Rangers, they don't
- 21:19get the patience they maybe should.
- 21:23So, yeah, right. At the same time, it'd be quite
- 21:27exciting to see that because, you know, it's always is a big
- 21:31name actually, son. So it would, it would be good
- 21:33to, it would be exciting anyway. There have been a lot of work
- 21:38going on behind the scenes before the end of the season.
- 21:41I mean, I know the 49ers are unofficially, but I don't know
- 21:45when it's expected to actually happen.
- 21:48But Rangers season starts so much earlier than the rival
- 21:52Celtic. I mean, Celtic season starts and
- 21:55when the league starts. So it's that first weekend in
- 21:58August. But Rangers have got 3-4
- 22:02qualifying runs at the moment to navigate through.
- 22:04Yeah, they've. Got to get. 3.
- 22:06Three at least. They're probably going to be
- 22:08exceeded for most of them, but you can't you can't afford to
- 22:11mess around in them. I think progress neither corn
- 22:14shows that, but I think the probably I didn't.
- 22:20Well, the media reported that they've got their top targets,
- 22:24but I don't think they can afford to wait around for too
- 22:26long because it's important to get these players and that they
- 22:29won and then get them ready for the qualified.
- 22:33You can't meet them as friendly. So moving away from Rangers now
- 22:37to the to the Scotland squad. The squad was posted like this
- 22:42week earlier this week. There's returns the squad for
- 22:45Josh Doig, Nathan Patterson and the Irving and of course Angus
- 22:48Gunn who missed the last few squads.
- 22:51Lennon, Miller and of course James Wilson have kept their
- 22:55places in the squad after getting their first collapse in
- 22:57the in the previous one. And there's a surprise admission
- 23:01for Kieran Bowie, who gets his first call up to the senior
- 23:04squad. Clark said in his his press
- 23:06conference after the after the squadronet was announced.
- 23:09He's always been impressed with Kieran when he's watching them
- 23:11in under 20 ones and he's been, in my opinion, such a pivotal
- 23:15player for the under 20 ones. And obviously they're under 21
- 23:19Euro campaign qualifier and just all their games in general.
- 23:23He's got six goals for Hibs this season.
- 23:25It's not a ton, but his physical presence said says is what makes
- 23:29this game top notch. What do you guys think of the of
- 23:32the squadron hole? When you're saying six goals
- 23:35firms, not too much. We did.
- 23:36He only played eighteen games. It was our season like massively
- 23:40like a big a big part of it was injury.
- 23:43I think it was a hamstring he got back in October and that set
- 23:46him out for quite a while. So for the age years, like he
- 23:49said, his physical presence, he's got good attributes that
- 23:52hopefully will allow him to sort of cut it at this level.
- 23:57And I think there's a few folk that have been watching him for
- 23:58years and he could be one of the guys who's going to lead the
- 24:01Scotland line coming up. So, and this is I mean, we're
- 24:04not up against to the the giants Europe for once and friendly.
- 24:08So hopefully 2 opportunities to get a result and really good
- 24:13opportunity as well for the young guys to come in because
- 24:16they could. There's the pressure's off and I
- 24:19think everyone's just really excited to see them, especially
- 24:21with like Selena Miller didn't get capped even though he was in
- 24:25the squad back in March. Like you said, it would just be
- 24:28interesting to see whether or not he's had his move come that
- 24:31point because I think we're all kind of just waiting on
- 24:33something changing there. Yeah, I mean there's been links
- 24:36to a host of clubs, most notably probably Strasbourg, which to be
- 24:40honest would probably be the dream move for development wise.
- 24:45Yeah, of course a lot of people know they've got the youngest
- 24:48average age of any squad in Europe, an average squad age of
- 24:5321 years and 284 days, so they are practically playing another
- 24:5621 side. He's also been linked to
- 24:59obviously a Borussia Dortmund as well as Man United recently for
- 25:05for around 10 million. I don't think Man United would
- 25:07be a great move, but Bruce who Dortmund or Strasbourg would be
- 25:11a great move from. There's no heck in the squad.
- 25:14But as we are speaking, he is and he is on the bench for
- 25:18Brentford. Josh Doyle kind of might fill
- 25:22that that role recently one Seri Seri be with Sasso, although
- 25:26after his move from Hells for OWN, I think it was last summer.
- 25:30So it'll be good to see another Scott in in the top flight, not
- 25:33just not just the second division.
- 25:36Yeah, I think he's become a little bit under the radar.
- 25:39I think just like just because, you know, we try our best to
- 25:42cover Sherry IB as much as possible, but you.
- 25:44Know it's not really too many places that you know.
- 25:48Showcase it. But you know, it's good to see
- 25:50him. But I had a feeling that they
- 25:51were going to go back straight away.
- 25:52Just seen the talent pill that sets us all.
- 25:54They're going to go straight back, you know, either by the.
- 25:58As a champion of right the playoffs and so it's great to
- 26:01see him, great to see him back along with all the rest.
- 26:03Of the guys. That was over there at the
- 26:05moment. Thank good to see him back in
- 26:06the Scotland squad as well. You know, I just had many call
- 26:09UPS before. I think he's about four or five,
- 26:11but it's not been on the pitch yet.
- 26:13And he's good thing. He is as well.
- 26:16Sorry, just until on template talking guys returning.
- 26:19He was on for a few years now. I think we've all been kind of
- 26:23waiting for Nathan to just kick on about and he's announced hard
- 26:26injuries sort of hold them back a little bit, so I'm hoping next
- 26:31season's going to be a huge one for him, especially David Moyes,
- 26:34everyone hopefully looking out from a wee bit.
- 26:36So good to see that right back position become a little bit
- 26:40more consistent. Built.
- 26:42Yeah. I mean, I remember his game
- 26:45against Poland. I think it was a Poland friendly
- 26:47and it was just running past the Poland players like they just
- 26:50weren't there up that wing. You know, they're they're they
- 26:55shared shade Morris esque. But keep on the keep on the
- 27:00topic of keep on the topic of fill backs, Max Johnson
- 27:05back-to-back league winner in Austria with Sturman Gratz now
- 27:07won the league yesterday with a with a draw over.
- 27:10I think it was Wolfsburg, not Wolfsburg was.
- 27:12Burger, Yeah. Wellsburger, yeah, that's one.
- 27:15He won the League Cup last season as well from from last
- 27:18season. I think he's become a more
- 27:19established star. Last season he was obviously in
- 27:21the squad, but limited minutes first half the season especially
- 27:25and it's just bits and pieces off the bench.
- 27:27He's an established starter for them one goal 5 assists in the
- 27:30league. He's obviously started in the
- 27:32Champions League as well. Great experience from and
- 27:35because the Champions League is really important yeah and
- 27:39because I know John gratis where runs a pure sight than that.
- 27:42But they again get exactly experience against players.
- 27:49And I mean, no offense, the Austrian league, I think
- 27:53officially they're higher than us in the coefficient played
- 27:57overall a bit better standard, I believe.
- 27:59But it's important to get the experience against those of a
- 28:03higher quality because he's old enough to be to to once and to
- 28:06be able to put in a high higher level.
- 28:09And if you can true that you can at least stand.
- 28:11There's no one against you know, your giant from Italy, France,
- 28:15Germany. Germany is probably the one that
- 28:17stands out because it's just over the border from Austria.
- 28:19But there's not there's nothing stopping them joining like
- 28:23comedy. Gilmore impressed.
- 28:24And and going in Italy as well and.
- 28:28But it was Atlanta that was. Yeah, he's had, he's had
- 28:30interest from Southampton, Ipswich, Atlanta, Hamburg and
- 28:34Augsburg. So it's a host.
- 28:36There's a chance of England, isn't there?
- 28:38Yeah, I, I to be honest, from a personal level, I do not want to
- 28:41see him in the Championship. I think staying abroad, Atlanta
- 28:46were top of the the Syria for I think it was 8 game weeks this
- 28:49season. They've got a host of talents
- 28:53in. Terms of the guys, if they seem
- 28:57they've their club is sort of known for making good signings
- 29:01and think of just the fact they're interested in him, is it
- 29:05pleasing to see? Because you must be doing
- 29:06something right in that respect. Yeah, I mean, I mean play.
- 29:09Play in a way against Dortmund in the Champions League, at the
- 29:13obviously Signal Dinner Park. Great experience from him and it
- 29:17just adds to his repertoire and his reputation, not just in
- 29:22Austria and in Scotland but across Europe because I think
- 29:26he's clearly all other clubs he's really.
- 29:28Up to his, he's really up to his game in terms of goals and
- 29:31assists, so obviously. One goals you.
- 29:33Know people will say that's. Not enough, but you know.
- 29:35For a fullback, no, that's not too.
- 29:37Bad and you get 5. Assists as well, and let's be
- 29:40honest, he's been a starter since.
- 29:42Probably after the new year. Since the comic book, the boy's
- 29:47name. Now, who was the first trace,
- 29:48right? Back he went to Cologne.
- 29:51He's become the first choice, right?
- 29:52Back and he's been every every game.
- 29:54Ever since he's played that believe every minute that's what
- 29:57I'm writing scene I'm after double check that, but he's
- 29:59generally started. Every game and.
- 30:02Five goal 5, assists 1. Goal.
- 30:05Plus, you know, 5 Champions League appearances as well
- 30:08before New Year's. Well, yeah, he's a great young
- 30:13player and that, you know, he's another one who probably should.
- 30:16You're having more caps as well a young age I'm.
- 30:18A pre believers like. Get me the young guys Caps
- 30:21remember what wheels were like. Goodness, how many years ago now
- 30:25the Caps players 16/17/18 Let them learn in the big stages.
- 30:29Let them learn their. Mistakes and then.
- 30:32You know 20-30 can't stand lane. They become established players
- 30:35at young age. Especially in friendlies.
- 30:38Yeah, exactly. Especially when you're playing
- 30:41Iceland at home and Liechtenstein away.
- 30:42I mean, you're not going to get you're not going to get a better
- 30:46chance. So obviously Iceland at home and
- 30:49then on the 6th of June and then salute goes out to anyone making
- 30:53the trip to Liechtenstein away on the 9th of June.
- 30:57Do you? That is impressive.
- 30:58My heart goes off to them. I was.
- 31:00Looking at flights, hardest places to get to, I think it was
- 31:05you and then actually the trainer.
- 31:07I don't know any hotels or many at all.
- 31:10And is it Vador values? Yeah, it's a really quirky
- 31:16football system in Liechtenstein because the bits playing the
- 31:20smart second division, spending the capital Liechtenstein and
- 31:24get Europe because they're playing the Liechtenstein Cup.
- 31:27Well, they almost bottled it actually because they were
- 31:29playing against a fifth tier side in Liechtenstein and the
- 31:335th tier side would tunnel up until the 65th minute and then
- 31:37collapsed 3 to or 4 to, I can't remember which invados
- 31:41disappeared up again. But then after those two
- 31:44friendlies, we have a break and then our World Cup qualifier
- 31:48campaign starts in the 5th of September with obviously
- 31:50probably our hardest game against Denmark away.
- 31:53I can't wait. I've got my planes out in
- 31:55Copenhagen Rd. Thank.
- 31:56It's going to be a really good test.
- 31:59I will be saving my money for for the Aberdeen European away
- 32:02this to be honest. Yeah, just looking ahead for for
- 32:07the for. The Iceland game at home, I
- 32:13don't know if it's going to be under the radar.
- 32:15That could be kind. I think I've got raised 50 of
- 32:17cap for Scotland, which is I didn't realize he'd claimed so
- 32:21high recently in terms of caps because when you think about the
- 32:25injuries he's had, I was looking on transfer market later on 812
- 32:29days were for football or like actual he's not he's mass
- 32:34strangeries. And the fact that that's him
- 32:37potentially getting his 50th cap just quite I mean, I've seen a
- 32:41few guys now creeping up to the higher numbers that have had a
- 32:44more consistent scored over the years.
- 32:46But I'll be, I think I'll be out to quite a special moment to see
- 32:49a guy who's given a lot but maybe not got a lot back from
- 32:55his career. And yeah, Speaking of Kieran
- 32:58Tierney, as we're speaking, he's back on the pitch fast and they
- 33:02scored 43rd minute. Southampton have just equalized,
- 33:07but it's good to see him back on the score sheet, back playing
- 33:09after such a torrid time with injuries, not being in the squad
- 33:13at all. And I'm kind of being overlooked
- 33:17by Michael Arthetta for for multiple seasons now despite it
- 33:22being so integral for us when he does play.
- 33:26He's not a good time at club level since probably two seasons
- 33:30ago I'd say. Yeah, it's great.
- 33:34It's great to see him back. It's great to see him back.
- 33:36I think you'll be a big you still.
- 33:39I still want him to do well in Scotland and you still would be
- 33:41well, Scotland. I think going to Celtics,
- 33:43probably the. Perfect move from going into the
- 33:44long haul. For him and Celtic, and for
- 33:47Scotland as well. And it's good to see him back.
- 33:50And you're right. And seeing that 50th cap against
- 33:52Iceland, if he should play. So that's a rule of honor and
- 33:56yeah, what we're seeing. About how many goods and.
- 33:59Players that we've got now in the high numbers, John Mcgann's
- 34:01got 75, Scott McDonald's got 60. Yeah, 60 at the age of 2028
- 34:06years old. Yep, Andy Robinson's got 82.
- 34:09You know. We've got lots coming up, you
- 34:12know, just, I'm just looking at the list.
- 34:14Now it's just a meeting. See how many?
- 34:18Players, because you know, before Clark took over, I think
- 34:21we had barely how many players got into maybe 20 or 30 now.
- 34:25We've got a good grip with more coming through as.
- 34:29Well, yeah, I mean, I mean Mcdormand as well.
- 34:32Obviously once Seri, I Seri sorry with with Napoli alongside
- 34:37Billy Gilmore on Friday. I was watching the game.
- 34:41Amazing scissor kick. I mean, just to cop up to top
- 34:45off the season. It's an amazing goal.
- 34:48If you've not seen her go, go take a look because it is quite
- 34:51some goal. A2.
- 34:53No win over Kagliari, Steal the title.
- 34:55I was. Going to talk about football,
- 34:57scrap meters. Friday night was just one of
- 35:00those nights where everyone went according to plan.
- 35:03Like it's, I mean, I took my eyes off the screen for one
- 35:06second and as soon as I had the net, I looked up and I knew it
- 35:09was going to come in and scored it.
- 35:11But he just he has just been so pivotal from the whole season.
- 35:1412 goals, eight of the 12, the score was tied now, now, So
- 35:19that's how much of A game changer he's been for an Apple
- 35:21in terms of driving them forward and getting the goals that are.
- 35:26I mean, there's such a it's, it's well known now how well
- 35:30Scots are done in Italy. But it's been an amazing season.
- 35:33Now it's Lewis Ferguson, obviously at Bologna captain
- 35:37this side to cop Italia win over a single and one nil down and
- 35:40doy with the only goal of the game And it's I think it's I'm
- 35:43right and said it's their first major trophy in 51 years. 51
- 35:46years, yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's an amazing sustest
- 35:49when you consider. How many good players have?
- 35:51Been in Bologna the last few years at least about.
- 35:55Four or five years at. Least.
- 35:56And now they're starting to. Get a good squad together to
- 35:59compete at the top level. Yeah, conference getting to.
- 36:02Europe as well. And Fred for him to captain
- 36:04aside, you know, not coming in too long ago, not not starting
- 36:09straight away, but finding his feet quite quite quickly, to be
- 36:12honest, learning the language. And no, captain, that's.
- 36:15Why I was going? To say learning.
- 36:16The language, I mean, you've got to learn the language or, you
- 36:18know, in places like that, same, you know, if somebody was to go.
- 36:22To Germany, you've got to learn the.
- 36:23Language and because it'll. Make a connection.
- 36:25To the fans, and that's the one thing I'm really fend off more
- 36:27than anything. It sounds silly to see.
- 36:29But. You know you've got to try and
- 36:31connect with these. These.
- 36:32Wonderful supporters that you've got.
- 36:34Over there. Scott Scott McDonald in
- 36:36particular, he's almost cooked the owner of the ton.
- 36:39And I'm like that well, I can barely understand English.
- 36:41Yeah, and English, it's proper, a proper Italian.
- 36:44It's not Scottish Italian, so I know.
- 36:46Yeah. And Lewis Ferguson last season
- 36:48won the the. I don't know how to pronounce
- 36:50this either. The Bill garelli #8 Awards.
- 36:54It's an award given from past, past players, usually they're
- 36:59Italian obviously and it's for the best midfielder the season
- 37:02not just in Syria but across Europe.
- 37:04And last season that was Lewis Ferguson that past winners like
- 37:08Pierre Lowe, Chavey Any Esta, Paul Pogba, Yaya Turi and now
- 37:13Lewis Ferguson and Lewis quite possibly Mcdominy this season
- 37:16so. I wouldn't be surprised.
- 37:17I mean, Tommy has won it. Yeah, he won the best, best play
- 37:20of the season in Syria this season as well.
- 37:22I mean, could could he be the first player since Ally McClure
- 37:25to get nominated for the Balloon Door?
- 37:29That's something I didn't consider that actually, but it's
- 37:32not. I mean he when he gets when he's
- 37:34earning such high awards and high plays across there, it's
- 37:39almost like why is he not in the conversation?
- 37:41Yes. I'm not, I'm not saying you
- 37:43should win it, but if you're getting player the season in one
- 37:47of the top top five, arguably top three leagues in the world,
- 37:49you have to be in the conversation to at least get
- 37:53nominated because I think it's 3030, players get nominated.
- 37:56I think you have to do something in Europe.
- 37:59Yeah, I think the same. I think just I think getting
- 38:02into the Champions League next season is where he's.
- 38:03Going to be just really a lot along the rest.
- 38:06Of the players. I mean, he's going to be in that
- 38:08candidate. The valandor is now done by
- 38:11calendar year, I'm sure so. Yeah, that's right.
- 38:13Yeah. You wouldn't really be able to
- 38:15get many Champions League game in Champions League games in
- 38:18until the Valandor was yeah, was awarded.
- 38:21So it's a funny one because if you do look at his performances,
- 38:26they are among the best in the world.
- 38:29I mean, obviously we maybe don't appreciate them as much because
- 38:32he is Scottish and it's just, it's like that, I don't know,
- 38:35you don't really appreciate something until it's gone and
- 38:38he's incredible over there. And Napoli, Billy Gilmore not
- 38:42playing a pivotal role, but obviously he got his winners
- 38:45medal so he'll not be complaining.
- 38:49I think when you're saying that as well, you're talking about
- 38:50like maybe not appreciate as much.
- 38:53I think it's almost the same conversation when people have
- 38:55where about John McGann and Arsenal fans go.
- 38:59If his name was Megan, Megan Dino or Megani Esther, people
- 39:03would be Raven much more. And we have got yeah, that's so
- 39:07true. And here's us maybe been
- 39:10comfortable with the same thing going well.
- 39:11Why is he not in that conversation?
- 39:14Well, I think we'll wrap it up there, guys.
- 39:16So thank you so much for coming on, giving your time.
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