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- 0:05Speaker 1: Drama, Darling, Drama, Darling Drama, Darling.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Well, well, well we meet again, you guys. We're here,
- 0:23Speaker 2: the Darlings are here, and it is a gorgeous California
- 0:28Speaker 2: day here, a day before Thanksgiving. If you're listening to
- 0:31Speaker 2: this on the public over on the Patreon, you got
- 0:33Speaker 2: this a day earlier, so we're looking at, you know, Wednesday,
- 0:36Speaker 2: the twenty seventh. But Happy Thanksgiving to those of you
- 0:39Speaker 2: who happen to be listening on Thanksgiving and Dianna's here.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving, Dianna.
- 0:44Speaker 3: Grateful for you.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, Grateful for you, very grateful for you.
- 0:50Speaker 2: I feel the same way. I'm super blessed, super lucky.
- 0:54Speaker 2: However you want to say it, Dianna, You've been with
- 0:56Speaker 2: me from the jump. I cannot thank you enough for that.
- 1:00Speaker 2: And I just have loved getting to do this podcast
- 1:03Speaker 2: with you and like, yeah, I didn't, and just getting
- 1:06Speaker 2: to know each other. It's just been so so fun,
- 1:08Speaker 2: what an embarrassment of riches of friendship.
- 1:11Speaker 3: Truly, and I've I've enjoyed the drama Darling thread that
- 1:16Speaker 3: we have. But there are other gals with Emily, Jamie
- 1:20Speaker 3: and Angelaula and Me and Amy and Heather Gay is
- 1:25Speaker 3: on there.
- 1:26Speaker 2: No, I'm kidding, she's not.
- 1:27Speaker 3: Yeah, and Andrew, you know, the producers, No, it's but
- 1:33Speaker 3: they're all and the Darlings like, we're all it's it's
- 1:37Speaker 3: just a few of us, but it's really all of
- 1:39Speaker 3: us on the thread at the end of the day.
- 1:41Speaker 2: You're right, and thanks to the Patreon folks, and the
- 1:44Speaker 2: chat is really over there, just starting to pump up.
- 1:46Speaker 2: And I have noticed and I've really been enjoying that.
- 1:50Speaker 2: So to those of you who would like more drama Darling,
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- 1:59Speaker 2: It's every day, it's it's multiple times a day sometimes,
- 2:03Speaker 2: and so head on over patreon dot com slash drama Darling.
- 2:07Speaker 2: I always have it in the notes. But today we're
- 2:09Speaker 2: gonna be talking about Beverly Hills. So Wowie wow wowersen
- 2:15Speaker 2: welcome in. It doesn't get old.
- 2:22Speaker 3: Still still hits, you know, as we kids say, still hits.
- 2:28Speaker 2: Geez, Louise, Well, I think that the best place for
- 2:34Speaker 2: us to start is to talk about bows. That's that's
- 2:37Speaker 2: where I feel we need to jump. I think that
- 2:39Speaker 2: we need to full throttle. Just jump in here and
- 2:44Speaker 2: bask ourselves in gold, sprinkles, dust. And that's Owerhouse Energy CEO. Extraordinary, unbelievable, unbelievable.
- 2:59Speaker 2: How did we get so lucky?
- 3:01Speaker 3: It's I can't believe it.
- 3:03Speaker 2: I can't. I was like, what are you doing? You're
- 3:05Speaker 2: you might be You're too good for the she is
- 3:09Speaker 2: too good for this show. So but thank you and
- 3:12Speaker 2: welcome in.
- 3:13Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome. I heard, and I should try to find
- 3:24Speaker 3: the episode, but I heard an episode on one of
- 3:27Speaker 3: those shows that podcasts that are that focus on entrepreneurial
- 3:32Speaker 3: people and badass You know, you really.
- 3:36Speaker 2: Show up to those podcasts, by the way. I appreciate that. Yeah,
- 3:41Speaker 2: I like those.
- 3:43Speaker 3: They inspire me, they make me. I love hearing people's journeys.
- 3:46Speaker 3: I love, you know, So with hers, I recall it
- 3:50Speaker 3: was years ago that I listened to it, but I remember,
- 3:54Speaker 3: you know, the host was talking about her looks. So
- 3:57Speaker 3: the looks we're seeing on this show that she's delivering,
- 4:01Speaker 3: that is also how she showed up in the boardrooms
- 4:05Speaker 3: in meetings. It's like, this is a gal whose presence
- 4:12Speaker 3: is just extraordinary.
- 4:16Speaker 2: Wow, I that doesn't surprise me. And you know, like
- 4:19Speaker 2: we see the Housewives, they get on the show and
- 4:21Speaker 2: they had this glow up and they do all the things. Yeah,
- 4:25Speaker 2: when we got to her house and she's just like skating,
- 4:30Speaker 2: floating through her living room, I ended up. I had
- 4:32Speaker 2: to pause it for some reason. When they first entered,
- 4:35Speaker 2: it was dewt and Erica, she and Bose was walking
- 4:41Speaker 2: through the living room and she had on this unbelievable outfit.
- 4:44Speaker 2: She had just sprinkled the gold dust on her apps.
- 4:47Speaker 3: Quite a bit, quite a bit of gold. I was
- 4:50Speaker 3: shocked at the amount of gold dust, yeah, being applied.
- 4:54Speaker 3: I was like, I might need half of the dust.
- 4:58Speaker 3: It's too dusty for me.
- 5:00Speaker 2: It was a live day, and I don't know what
- 5:02Speaker 2: it tastes like, so.
- 5:05Speaker 3: I tend to imagine not much, you know.
- 5:08Speaker 2: Of anything. It's just more of a texture and a
- 5:10Speaker 2: feeling like I'm eating gold because I can. Yeah, that's
- 5:15Speaker 2: right to go from like, yeah, like you said, an
- 5:19Speaker 2: embellishment an extra amount of gold dust to floating through
- 5:25Speaker 2: her living room. And then I just saw to read.
- 5:28Speaker 2: Maybe it was part of the perspective, but to read,
- 5:30Speaker 2: and Erica just looked like these two little girls and
- 5:35Speaker 2: like she just was leading the way like you know,
- 5:39Speaker 2: something that we've never seen before, and I just thought, wow,
- 5:41Speaker 2: what queen energy. And then I started to compare. And
- 5:47Speaker 2: I don't necessarily love to do this.
- 5:49Speaker 3: We have to. I didn't saying we have to look
- 5:53Speaker 3: at our history to see where we've been and now
- 5:57Speaker 3: where we're going.
- 5:58Speaker 2: You know, this is thank you for validating that.
- 6:01Speaker 3: Well, we have to.
- 6:03Speaker 2: And I don't want to slam Erica and Deurrea because
- 6:06Speaker 2: in terms of what they brought to the show because
- 6:08Speaker 2: obviously character wise unbelievable off the charts, you know, the
- 6:12Speaker 2: entertainment value, everything, the drama. But when I look at
- 6:15Speaker 2: their lives, you know, and you see how they got
- 6:19Speaker 2: to where they are, their journey to where they are
- 6:23Speaker 2: on this show, are they're so vastly different from one another.
- 6:27Speaker 2: I would say that Erica and Durreat's are very similar.
- 6:30Speaker 2: You know, they married wealthy men, and I think that
- 6:33Speaker 2: Doret did have somewhat of a career she as she said, well,
- 6:38Speaker 2: she said that she was the only one with a
- 6:41Speaker 2: college degree in that room in the reunion, which obviously
- 6:44Speaker 2: was completely untrue.
- 6:46Speaker 3: Completely untrue. And now bye that like, don't even any
- 6:53Speaker 3: time you want to Dorrit do not do not do.
- 6:57Speaker 2: Not, do not not. Yeah, I just was like thinking
- 7:03Speaker 2: the comparison of the three and where Bose has been
- 7:08Speaker 2: and and then and where and what kind of life
- 7:11Speaker 2: she's lived and where she is now. She's literally like,
- 7:13Speaker 2: I'm done. I'm just having fun in my life now.
- 7:16Speaker 2: I'm retired fun, but at the same time doing so
- 7:19Speaker 2: much powerful work as we saw, speaking, engagements, podcasts, everything,
- 7:23Speaker 2: and she speaks to everything regarding how she got to
- 7:28Speaker 2: where she is a workshop. Yeah.
- 7:33Speaker 3: I took a little screen grab of an article that
- 7:36Speaker 3: had her credits. I have you talked about all your credits?
- 7:39Speaker 3: May I you may do a cold read on this?
- 7:42Speaker 2: I would love you too, And if I might, I'm
- 7:46Speaker 2: trying to find the correct music if like, uh, I
- 7:50Speaker 2: don't know, maybe if oh.
- 7:52Speaker 3: I may get emotional this this level of these this
- 7:57Speaker 3: resume good god.
- 8:01Speaker 2: Okay, well I'm doing dramatic, Okay, not too much. That's
- 8:04Speaker 2: not that's not a perfect is it? Okay?
- 8:06Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, let's see Okay. Boz has served as
- 8:12Speaker 3: the global CMO of Netflix, the CMO of Endeavor, the
- 8:18Speaker 3: CBO of Uber, the head of marketing at Apple Music
- 8:22Speaker 3: and iTunes, and the head of music and entertainment marketing
- 8:26Speaker 3: at Pepsi COO. In addition to being named Forbes Most
- 8:30Speaker 3: Influential CMO in twenty twenty one, Boz is also an
- 8:34Speaker 3: author and created the Badass Workshop, which strives to empower
- 8:38Speaker 3: women by expanding their boundaries for career, health and wellness, lifestyle,
- 8:42Speaker 3: relationship goals, and so much more.
- 8:46Speaker 2: Wow, I had to do some lay some laying there.
- 9:01Speaker 2: We have to give you a DJA airhorn because you're
- 9:03Speaker 2: genuinely getting of a clump. Because I know how much
- 9:06Speaker 2: you love a power woman. I just know, I know
- 9:08Speaker 2: how much you love a powerful woman, so truly incredible.
- 9:12Speaker 2: And then to put all of that aside for a second,
- 9:16Speaker 2: and then to dive into what she's been through. And
- 9:19Speaker 2: I knew this was coming because I had already had
- 9:22Speaker 2: the heads up on her life. But when she shares
- 9:27Speaker 2: that she was married to a ginger haired Italian man
- 9:32Speaker 2: and they did have a child, and he was diagnosed
- 9:36Speaker 2: with cancer and died four months later, I am three
- 9:40Speaker 2: months three months later, I think, I think, okay, well,
- 9:46Speaker 2: I'm always putting some I you didn't do it for
- 9:49Speaker 2: a second. But for her to have negotiated that Pepsi
- 9:54Speaker 2: co deal that that Pepsi would sponsor the Super Bowl,
- 9:58Speaker 2: and then to find that out I think a month
- 10:01Speaker 2: later that he was diagnosed, then have to deal with
- 10:04Speaker 2: all that. And then when she talks about in her
- 10:07Speaker 2: Badass Workshop, the pivot, which was that when she was
- 10:11Speaker 2: brought to the table for her review, they said you
- 10:14Speaker 2: didn't have enough home runs, which is like, damn if
- 10:18Speaker 2: this is Pepsi where they're like, you don't have enough
- 10:21Speaker 2: home runs and she delivered on the Super Bowl. I'm like, oof,
- 10:25Speaker 2: that corporate world is a doggy dog. How many more
- 10:30Speaker 2: deals do you have to make to prove yourself within
- 10:32Speaker 2: a year? And so that pivot into what was next
- 10:38Speaker 2: for her and having to endure the loss of her
- 10:42Speaker 2: husband and then to carry on with that as a
- 10:45Speaker 2: single mother is astounding.
- 10:48Speaker 3: It really was, and I appreciate it. Also her saying
- 10:52Speaker 3: he was robbed and her daughter was robbed. I liked
- 10:57Speaker 3: that word. Yeah, because it's truth, and because sometimes I
- 11:03Speaker 3: think people are more comfortable hearing you know, he's always
- 11:07Speaker 3: with her, they're on the journey and that all may
- 11:10Speaker 3: be good and true, but rob is an appropriate word. Absolutely,
- 11:15Speaker 3: that's real, it's real, and it's true.
- 11:19Speaker 2: I felt that pain man. I wonder if we will
- 11:22Speaker 2: see her daughter on the show. We saw the picture.
- 11:26Speaker 3: She was cute. I bet you we may eventually. Yes,
- 11:31Speaker 3: You're old enough right that she could probably say yes
- 11:36Speaker 3: or no to it too. Yeah, she said, this new
- 11:40Speaker 3: letter is built by me.
- 11:42Speaker 2: I am the pivot. Oho. Whoa, Oh my gosh, that's beautiful. Wow,
- 11:49Speaker 2: I'm so glad you wrote that down. Oh my gosh.
- 11:53Speaker 2: You know, this is the reason why Housewives has the
- 11:57Speaker 2: redemption that it does and has the ass inspiration that
- 12:00Speaker 2: it does, because this is not just monetary. This hits
- 12:04Speaker 2: on every single It hits in every category of being
- 12:09Speaker 2: aspirational in terms of money, being successful, doing it yourself,
- 12:14Speaker 2: being in charge, being the boss lady, having a child
- 12:17Speaker 2: at the same time having a loving marriage. But then
- 12:20Speaker 2: of course the devastation that comes with life, and it
- 12:24Speaker 2: was all dealt to her. So she has a lot
- 12:26Speaker 2: to share and she's not afraid to share it. And
- 12:29Speaker 2: obviously her going on this show is part of that pivot,
- 12:34Speaker 2: part of the whole Let me share with you because
- 12:37Speaker 2: I want to give. I know how much I have
- 12:39Speaker 2: and what I've been through and what I've gained in
- 12:42Speaker 2: terms of wisdom. She has so much value and so
- 12:45Speaker 2: much insight into everything that it is. She probably feels
- 12:50Speaker 2: like it's her duty to share. You know, that's the
- 12:53Speaker 2: vibe I'm getting that She's like, this is like I
- 12:56Speaker 2: have to give of my riches because there's just too much.
- 12:59Speaker 2: You know, I'm over flowing with not just the insight
- 13:02Speaker 2: of yeah yeah and a business, but of life. Regardless
- 13:07Speaker 2: of it being painful for her to share, To have
- 13:09Speaker 2: to get up every time she does a talk and
- 13:12Speaker 2: then dredge up what she's been through, that's no joke.
- 13:16Speaker 2: That is that is hard, hard work. Emotionally so really
- 13:21Speaker 2: happy that she's on the show. Wow, and your assistant
- 13:24Speaker 2: is so cute Nico. Her assistant was adorable and totally
- 13:30Speaker 2: wondering if he is a Housewives fan. He is, Okay, yeah,
- 13:34Speaker 2: he's got to be.
- 13:35Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, but I felt it. I
- 13:38Speaker 3: was like, he is, like, how do you like the girls?
- 13:40Speaker 3: How do you like my girls? Like? You know, how
- 13:42Speaker 3: do you like the girls that I've known for so long?
- 13:45Speaker 3: Was the the.
- 13:46Speaker 2: Feeling my girls that I've known so long? Yes, and
- 13:50Speaker 2: I love her. I love Bo's interacting with everybody in
- 13:55Speaker 2: the scenes and discovering the knowledge as if she might
- 13:59Speaker 2: not know, but she probably has some clue. But I
- 14:03Speaker 2: like her being like, oh hmm, you know, because we
- 14:06Speaker 2: have to see her discover this whether she knows it
- 14:09Speaker 2: or not, and I'm not sure if she does.
- 14:11Speaker 3: I don't know. I think that, you know, for her
- 14:15Speaker 3: to take on going on a show like this, yes,
- 14:18Speaker 3: it is a market is she's her best product? I
- 14:22Speaker 3: think is it's something along those lines. This is an
- 14:25Speaker 3: expert move. She's the first time we are getting to
- 14:30Speaker 3: see her is when we're getting to see her position
- 14:34Speaker 3: this course right, Like, yes, that's not that has been
- 14:38Speaker 3: laid into the fabric of the contract before she got going.
- 14:42Speaker 3: Absolutely ceriod not as it should be. You know. Do
- 14:48Speaker 3: I think she sat and really watched the show. I
- 14:53Speaker 3: don't know. I tend to think based on her watching
- 14:58Speaker 3: Kathy take her extensions out, I almost think she is
- 15:03Speaker 3: not watching the show or grazed past a few episodes
- 15:07Speaker 3: to get a vibe. Yeah.
- 15:09Speaker 2: I think she would make the choice deliberately if she
- 15:12Speaker 2: was going to watch or not, and it would be like,
- 15:14Speaker 2: it's going to do me a disservice to watch, so
- 15:16Speaker 2: I'm not going to or you know what I do
- 15:19Speaker 2: think for me this will help, and I'm going to
- 15:22Speaker 2: watch a few episodes. I could see her making a choice,
- 15:24Speaker 2: and whatever interview she tells us in, I think she'll
- 15:27Speaker 2: be pretty forthcoming about it, you know, yeah, get that
- 15:31Speaker 2: vibe from her. So why don't we kick off at
- 15:34Speaker 2: the beginning where we left off last week, which was
- 15:37Speaker 2: at the Surrealism party, and we finished this conversation between
- 15:40Speaker 2: Kyle and Darite. So when Kyle picks up by saying, like,
- 15:45Speaker 2: I'm the reason why I said that on Amazon Live
- 15:51Speaker 2: is because of what you said at Bravo Con and
- 15:55Speaker 2: then you later said that I turned and then Durite
- 15:58Speaker 2: said later that Kyle turns on the tears for attention.
- 16:03Speaker 2: So Kyle's had an ax to burn for Dury for
- 16:06Speaker 2: a while, we didn't know that duri said that Kyle
- 16:10Speaker 2: turns on the tears for attention, but that was exposed.
- 16:13Speaker 2: Did we know that?
- 16:14Speaker 3: I did know that, but I don't know how, Like
- 16:17Speaker 3: I don't know if it was on the show. I
- 16:19Speaker 3: don't know if it was like a little aside, but
- 16:22Speaker 3: I had that information.
- 16:24Speaker 2: I don't know how. Okay, okay, good good, But those
- 16:28Speaker 2: are fighting words. So it really makes sense why Kyle
- 16:32Speaker 2: took Tamazon Live to say those things and you know
- 16:35Speaker 2: what at Bravocon. So I had this all wrong last week.
- 16:41Speaker 2: I just I saw the footage differently than I than
- 16:44Speaker 2: I understood it to be. And so now I understand
- 16:46Speaker 2: why Kyle was hurt because when Deury was asked the question,
- 16:50Speaker 2: it was the game drink if you don't want to
- 16:52Speaker 2: say anything. So when Andy asked who do you which
- 16:57Speaker 2: sister do you like best or something like that, she
- 16:59Speaker 2: started to drink as if she wasn't going to choose,
- 17:03Speaker 2: so that instead of saying, well, Kyle, of course, she
- 17:06Speaker 2: started to drink. So she was being shady and I
- 17:08Speaker 2: understand it was a joke, but I get it now
- 17:11Speaker 2: why Kyle was upset. I mean, obviously it's completely blown
- 17:15Speaker 2: out of proportion. And as Eric would say, the latter
- 17:18Speaker 2: are having Live and Bravo Kon. I mean those are
- 17:20Speaker 2: small things. I mean, who gets they do? You know?
- 17:23Speaker 2: I mean, but they do. And Kyle clearly has been
- 17:28Speaker 2: hurt by Dery several times. And it all falls into
- 17:32Speaker 2: one category, and that is Kathy Hilton. Kathy Hilton is
- 17:36Speaker 2: the center of their feud in my opinion, because Kyle
- 17:40Speaker 2: has said, you know you you were going towards what
- 17:44Speaker 2: the viewers wanted out of you that last season when
- 17:48Speaker 2: she started to lean towards Kathy about wanting Kyle to,
- 17:53Speaker 2: you know, at least admit her faults. You know.
- 17:56Speaker 3: So, I think Katy that was just to me that
- 17:59Speaker 3: moment that Kyle is so stuck on in the reunion.
- 18:03Speaker 3: I did understand Kyle's perspective, but I was also like,
- 18:07Speaker 3: in these reunions, this is where you're supposed to give
- 18:10Speaker 3: and take right, try to get somewhere. So to me,
- 18:14Speaker 3: that's what her friend was doing is like, let's it's
- 18:17Speaker 3: like negotiating a contract. Everybody has to feel good.
- 18:21Speaker 2: Yep. You know, so I think kat I didn't see
- 18:25Speaker 2: that as bad either. I thought she was trying to help.
- 18:27Speaker 2: And then especially at that reunion in the dressing room
- 18:30Speaker 2: after deurit was really there for her. I felt that.
- 18:33Speaker 2: So it's so surprising to me that they weren't able,
- 18:36Speaker 2: Like Kyle couldn't get it through her head. Kyle is
- 18:38Speaker 2: really really stuck on d read and Kathy, and it
- 18:43Speaker 2: became so much more clear to me in this episode
- 18:45Speaker 2: how much she sees that as a threat, and that's
- 18:48Speaker 2: why she doesn't trust to read. She sees Durit going
- 18:51Speaker 2: to Kathy for clout and to have some sort of
- 18:56Speaker 2: U you know, camaraderie with being on the show. And
- 19:00Speaker 2: that's kind of what I'm getting.
- 19:02Speaker 3: Here's the thing, Amy cut. Okay, I get in the
- 19:07Speaker 3: weeds with this too, with Kyle because we like her
- 19:12Speaker 3: to summon, you know. But here's what I'm hearing from
- 19:15Speaker 3: dread is like, first of all, Kathy is on the show,
- 19:19Speaker 3: whose choice is at Kyle's. So you can't completely want
- 19:25Speaker 3: full control out of everyone reacts to Kathy and expect
- 19:29Speaker 3: full loyal ship and have her be a character on
- 19:32Speaker 3: the show. Right. It doesn't.
- 19:34Speaker 2: We can't have it every which way.
- 19:37Speaker 3: Sorry.
- 19:37Speaker 2: Kyle's weakest link of herself, that is her trigger is
- 19:42Speaker 2: her sister is.
- 19:43Speaker 3: Right, But there she is season after season. She keeps
- 19:47Speaker 3: coming back, yep because Kyle wants her there, because she's
- 19:51Speaker 3: good for Kyle's show.
- 19:54Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, but.
- 19:56Speaker 3: You can't parse out everybody's No. People are supposed to
- 20:01Speaker 3: have genuine relationships, they're supposed to connect on the show,
- 20:04Speaker 3: and you can't be micromanaging every beat.
- 20:07Speaker 1: No.
- 20:08Speaker 3: In addition, I do think what I have felt from
- 20:11Speaker 3: Dery over the last two episodes and it seems quite clear,
- 20:16Speaker 3: is that the level of management and power that Kyle
- 20:23Speaker 3: has on the show is pretty intense. Yeah, yeah, and so,
- 20:33Speaker 3: and we're seeing it with how when she says to Sutton,
- 20:38Speaker 3: she's like, well, she made her bed, she can lie
- 20:40Speaker 3: in it. I'm paralyzing, but was.
- 20:44Speaker 2: Bomb drop thank you? And Sutton's reaction to that was
- 20:50Speaker 2: the exact right response, because Kyle has never been that
- 20:55Speaker 2: forthcoming about saying like she messed this up and now
- 20:59Speaker 2: she's going to get it.
- 21:00Speaker 3: And that is why Duet's going like, are we gonna
- 21:03Speaker 3: be real?
- 21:05Speaker 2: Yes, right exactly, or.
- 21:08Speaker 3: We're not gonna be real. Okay, we're gonna act like
- 21:11Speaker 3: you haven't been using your power in this show to
- 21:16Speaker 3: put your thumb on me. And she's like, guess what,
- 21:20Speaker 3: I got a microphone on I've got cameras on me.
- 21:23Speaker 2: Let's go yeah, And then Kyle actually does admit that
- 21:27Speaker 2: later to Sutton. I mean, it was honestly, like the
- 21:30Speaker 2: other shoe dropped in the same episode, we actually got
- 21:33Speaker 2: the right answer, and I was shocked that she actually
- 21:36Speaker 2: said it, to be honest with you, because the way
- 21:38Speaker 2: that she's playing this, it's just cover up, cover up,
- 21:40Speaker 2: cover up. But now we're really getting down to it.
- 21:43Speaker 2: And on the same level of that is what you're saying, Deanna,
- 21:48Speaker 2: with Kyle in her power, I also want to say that,
- 21:52Speaker 2: you know, Durite, you know her hands aren't clean either.
- 21:56Speaker 2: I mean she's been sure. Yeah, so she's she's showing
- 22:02Speaker 2: up over at Kathy Kathy's episode one. You know, she
- 22:06Speaker 2: knows that it's going to get under Kyle's skin.
- 22:08Speaker 3: I mean, yes, that's a reaction to Kyle icing her out.
- 22:12Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
- 22:15Speaker 3: Kathy took that meeting and.
- 22:19Speaker 2: I said less or I was saying on Stuart's podcast,
- 22:22Speaker 2: Kathy didn't even know who was in the room, like
- 22:24Speaker 2: you know, she could have. She took several meetings that day,
- 22:27Speaker 2: and yes, the people were it was like a revolving door.
- 22:30Speaker 2: It's like you know the Godfather. They just come in
- 22:33Speaker 2: and she's like, oh, are you sleeping together? Well, I'm
- 22:37Speaker 2: really you just want to check on your home, and
- 22:40Speaker 2: then people leave, you know. So I think absolutely they're
- 22:44Speaker 2: playing a very dirty game here, and Kathy's in the middle.
- 22:49Speaker 2: That being said, I think we're honing down on this,
- 22:52Speaker 2: which is kind of amazing, and Kyle saying, I you know,
- 22:57Speaker 2: when Darita said you isolated me, you and you didn't
- 23:01Speaker 2: come to me after everything that happened. Like I think
- 23:05Speaker 2: deit was in a tough position because it was happening.
- 23:09Speaker 2: What she said on Watch Happens Live Deret when she
- 23:11Speaker 2: was like, I feel like, you know, Morgan has taken
- 23:14Speaker 2: up a lot of our time and now she doesn't
- 23:16Speaker 2: talk to me. That was one hundred percent true. I mean,
- 23:19Speaker 2: she and that's not a bad thing in terms of
- 23:22Speaker 2: Kyle's life. That's what she chose, she needed. She that's
- 23:25Speaker 2: the relationship she needed at that time. And but Deurite
- 23:30Speaker 2: was certainly, you know, felt hurt and thrown away at
- 23:34Speaker 2: that point, So why wouldn't she And then Kyle saying
- 23:39Speaker 2: I had the hardest two years of my life. You know,
- 23:42Speaker 2: give me a break. I get that too.
- 23:44Speaker 3: I did too.
- 23:46Speaker 2: And then Dereite just balls to the wall. I have
- 23:49Speaker 2: given you grace, maybe too much. When you go public
- 23:53Speaker 2: and you say what you said, great time is over,
- 23:56Speaker 2: great time is over. Caught, I mean that was.
- 24:00Speaker 3: Greast time is over is now in the lexicon. It
- 24:03Speaker 3: will be used going forward. It's it's welcome in, you know,
- 24:07Speaker 3: it's everything like grace time welcomer is now.
- 24:14Speaker 2: A lot aggressive, a lot of laughter at the od there.
- 24:19Speaker 3: It just was so good.
- 24:22Speaker 2: Okay, I have, boy, I have a kind of a
- 24:27Speaker 2: major thing that I need to talk about. Like it's
- 24:30Speaker 2: not a conspiracy theory, but it's it's a conspiracy theory
- 24:35Speaker 2: that I believe is one hundred percent true. So I'm
- 24:37Speaker 2: just going to say this is true in my opinion,
- 24:40Speaker 2: and I want to know if anyone. I want to
- 24:43Speaker 2: know if anyone caught this at all, okay, or if
- 24:47Speaker 2: you see it the way that I see it, because
- 24:49Speaker 2: this is so obvious to me. So I'm skipping to
- 24:54Speaker 2: everyone's over at Sutton's house right with Kathy and Eric
- 25:00Speaker 2: to pack up that pizza party or whatever. So then
- 25:06Speaker 2: they were like, I was like, why is Kathy there?
- 25:09Speaker 2: You know? That was weird?
- 25:11Speaker 3: Yeah, And was it.
- 25:13Speaker 2: True that they were going to were they originally going
- 25:16Speaker 2: to surprise? Was the plan all along to go over
- 25:19Speaker 2: and surprise Kyle or were they just at Duritt's house,
- 25:23Speaker 2: I'm sorry, at Sutton's Sutton's house, and they were going
- 25:27Speaker 2: to have the pizzas there?
- 25:29Speaker 3: I felt it was in my opinion, they were always
- 25:31Speaker 3: going It was Sutton's brainchild to always have do a
- 25:36Speaker 3: surprise Kyle moment. So they were all going to drive
- 25:39Speaker 3: up together, pack it up, and go and drive over
- 25:42Speaker 3: to Kyle's.
- 25:43Speaker 2: Okay, So that was part of the plan. When they
- 25:45Speaker 2: came over, I thought, so, okay, good, I just want
- 25:48Speaker 2: to make sure that I'm on the same page. I
- 25:49Speaker 2: just want to make sure I have all my facts. Okay, great.
- 25:52Speaker 2: So in what world would Kathy ever go over and
- 25:57Speaker 2: pack up a pizza party and then bring it. It's
- 26:01Speaker 2: just not saying, okay. I want to mention that there
- 26:06Speaker 2: is a pajama brand called print Fresh, and print Fresh
- 26:12Speaker 2: is adorable, adorable pajamas. There's a lot of like animal prints.
- 26:19Speaker 2: You've seen them because they were wearing them last night
- 26:21Speaker 2: at the pizza party when Kathy just so coincidentally said
- 26:27Speaker 2: outside of the kitchen, I have pajamas for you guys,
- 26:32Speaker 2: and then they all put them on and then just
- 26:34Speaker 2: happen to have that conversation about Mauricio and the picture
- 26:39Speaker 2: and that whole scandal. Well, if you go to the
- 26:42Speaker 2: print Fresh website, you'll see print Fresh by Hilton pajamas.
- 26:46Speaker 2: Also the latest direct TV party at Kathy's, which is
- 26:52Speaker 2: the holiday party one of many in which she's underneath
- 26:55Speaker 2: her tree taking pictures with all the celebrities is also
- 26:57Speaker 2: a Print Fresh collaboration. They're always in jamas and so
- 27:03Speaker 2: not only was this an entire ad that was planned
- 27:07Speaker 2: for the Print Fresh by Hilton Pajamas, but this was
- 27:12Speaker 2: so set up from the jump that Maurice. We found
- 27:15Speaker 2: out that Mauricio put up a picture of him and
- 27:19Speaker 2: the Dancing with Stars Lady and took down in their home.
- 27:25Speaker 2: You think that we wouldn't find this out all the
- 27:28Speaker 2: way back when this happened, because we would have This
- 27:32Speaker 2: was information that Kathy and Kyle spun for this moment
- 27:36Speaker 2: on this show to make money on. And I also
- 27:42Speaker 2: think it was a collaboration with Amazon as well. And
- 27:45Speaker 2: the way they shot this, wow, was so brilliant that
- 27:50Speaker 2: none of you noticed it. They made it look like
- 27:53Speaker 2: Kyle was in a tizzy running a muck at who
- 27:58Speaker 2: was at the door. Didn't that look real to you?
- 28:01Speaker 3: Yes? I mean I was watching with my husband and
- 28:03Speaker 3: I was like, he was like, this is set up,
- 28:05Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, if he's But he didn't go
- 28:09Speaker 3: to he didn't go to the point of what you're doing.
- 28:11Speaker 2: No, But but that's all I need. That's all.
- 28:13Speaker 3: If he thought it was, I was waffling because I'm like,
- 28:17Speaker 3: I got maybe, but damn it if she's not selling
- 28:21Speaker 3: this to made the dogs, blending, the pigtails, everything everything I.
- 28:25Speaker 2: Was, the camera's outside of the rooms. It's brilliant.
- 28:29Speaker 3: It was just so well done that I'm like, I'm
- 28:33Speaker 3: buying it.
- 28:34Speaker 2: Yeah, and you should because they delivered it so good
- 28:40Speaker 2: that it only takes Wing's eye and mine to see
- 28:44Speaker 2: right through it. So the you know what the biggest
- 28:47Speaker 2: selling point was. That made me realize it when they
- 28:50Speaker 2: were leaving and Sutton is walking out with Kyle and
- 28:54Speaker 2: they turned to Sutton turns to the office and says,
- 28:57Speaker 2: is that room give you the creeps? Now that room
- 29:02Speaker 2: make you said? Or something like that. Remember when she's
- 29:05Speaker 2: talking about Marico's office And then Kyle's like, not as
- 29:09Speaker 2: much as the picture, love you guys. Bye, I mean
- 29:13Speaker 2: that was completely script Yeah, it was a button. And
- 29:18Speaker 2: then she goes to the room and she shuts the
- 29:21Speaker 2: door to the office. This was such a huge scene.
- 29:25Speaker 2: Not only am I talking about, you know, commercialized, but
- 29:29Speaker 2: this was a moment that they were like, Kyle, we
- 29:33Speaker 2: have to establish you as a single woman living in
- 29:36Speaker 2: this house without Mauricio. This is the moment the girls
- 29:39Speaker 2: come over. They know you're upset this, you know, erics
- 29:43Speaker 2: like Elenel that you're upset because Marisio has moved out
- 29:45Speaker 2: and you're all alone, and then they all give her
- 29:48Speaker 2: advice everything. It was like a lifetime movie. Oh my god,
- 29:54Speaker 2: I know we were all taken. And I'm not saying
- 29:57Speaker 2: that it was necessarily a bad thing or that it's
- 29:58Speaker 2: not real. It is real. Mauricio has moved out, She's alone.
- 30:02Speaker 2: This is a transition. We need to paint this picture
- 30:05Speaker 2: as Kyle alone by herself, chaos, the dogs, like the office,
- 30:10Speaker 2: the reminder, now closing those doors. This is the end
- 30:14Speaker 2: of a chapter. And it really did give me the
- 30:16Speaker 2: chills because I was like, they set it up and
- 30:19Speaker 2: they delivered it to us, but they commercialized the hell
- 30:22Speaker 2: out of it, which was really, really really shit.
- 30:28Speaker 3: Well okay, so yeah, yeah, I'm sorry you texted the thread.
- 30:34Speaker 3: Am I watching an Amazon commercial? In Yes? So I did,
- 30:38Speaker 3: and I was like, here, here's listen. I will say
- 30:43Speaker 3: integrated marketing is a whole world right to your point,
- 30:52Speaker 3: because I went back and watched the scene again. Okay,
- 30:55Speaker 3: and I was like, even hearing things, I think, uestion,
- 31:00Speaker 3: are those pajamas sold on Amazon?
- 31:03Speaker 2: Ooh, great question, I will look okay, But after further discovery,
- 31:10Speaker 2: it's really a Print Fresh commercial. But the fact that
- 31:14Speaker 2: Kathy was like, oh, I'll do it Amazon Delivery, should
- 31:18Speaker 2: I say Amazon Prime? It was so right.
- 31:23Speaker 3: So when I went back for the second viewing, they
- 31:25Speaker 3: said Amazon so many times, and I think because they
- 31:29Speaker 3: weren't bringing over stuff from Amazon. In my mind is
- 31:35Speaker 3: why it works so well. Because yes, they're saying it,
- 31:39Speaker 3: pajamas and pizza just sounds like a thing that people do.
- 31:43Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I mean honestly.
- 31:45Speaker 2: But it wasn't on the nose. But it wasn't on
- 31:47Speaker 2: the nose. It was almost like, okay, Print Fresh pajamas
- 31:50Speaker 2: are not available on Amazon. But the other thing is,
- 31:54Speaker 2: this is why I was thinking it might have been
- 31:56Speaker 2: because Kyle does Amazon line.
- 31:58Speaker 3: Yes, she on her Amazon contract fulfilled. They were like,
- 32:02Speaker 3: you have to say Amazon twenty five times. She was like,
- 32:04Speaker 3: got it, And Kathy was like, and I'm going to
- 32:06Speaker 3: get my print Fresh air.
- 32:08Speaker 2: There's no reson. This is why Kathy's on the show
- 32:11Speaker 2: this season. She is always be selling Kathy. I mean
- 32:13Speaker 2: she's gonna she wants to build, and this is how
- 32:17Speaker 2: she's doing it. There's no other reason Kathy would be
- 32:20Speaker 2: doing this scene. I'm sorry, she's not. You're not gonna
- 32:22Speaker 2: get Kathy Hilton in a car over to Durret's to
- 32:25Speaker 2: pack up pizza stuff. Yes, I'm sorry. I keep saying that, Yeah,
- 32:30Speaker 2: you're not gonna do that. So that was already sus
- 32:32Speaker 2: when they were in the kitchen and they have this scene.
- 32:35Speaker 2: And I have to tell you, Sutton is a good
- 32:38Speaker 2: she's pretty, she's better than we thought. But the button
- 32:42Speaker 2: at the end of that scene, she and Kyle both
- 32:45Speaker 2: biffed it. But that's okay, that's okay. It was just
- 32:47Speaker 2: a little heavy handed. But in the in the scene
- 32:49Speaker 2: the kitchen, it's Sutton's and she says, well, I heard
- 32:54Speaker 2: that something happened with a frame and then you know,
- 32:57Speaker 2: and then here Kathy is like, oooh, oh my goodness,
- 33:00Speaker 2: for oh geez, I can't believe this. You know about
- 33:03Speaker 2: the Mauricio things. So we get that moment. We're fed
- 33:07Speaker 2: that moment, and that's such a huge bomb drop, because
- 33:10Speaker 2: what a piece of shit you're telling me that Mauricio
- 33:13Speaker 2: took down a picture of his wife and replaced it
- 33:15Speaker 2: with a dancing with the star's mistress.
- 33:18Speaker 3: Allegedly in her home where her children are. Right, I
- 33:24Speaker 3: have that, Okay, I will say, Erica, is it possible,
- 33:29Speaker 3: Amy Phillips, Yeah, that that scene was real and not
- 33:33Speaker 3: part of the branding, and they built the branding on
- 33:37Speaker 3: that because Erica's reaction was authentic in my opinion, Okay,
- 33:43Speaker 3: I don't think. I think the way Erica took that
- 33:46Speaker 3: information in felt so authentic to me that I wonder
- 33:50Speaker 3: if that scene was like the spark of Okay, we
- 33:54Speaker 3: can Those are three scenes, three different scenes.
- 33:58Speaker 2: It's that.
- 33:59Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all.
- 34:00Speaker 2: I mean, it's completely possible. But I also want to
- 34:02Speaker 2: say that this season they have a new creative direction.
- 34:06Speaker 2: I mean, so they have a new director or something,
- 34:08Speaker 2: because they're doing more selling sunset vibes and lighting and
- 34:11Speaker 2: the music and the slow moan and all this stuff.
- 34:13Speaker 2: And when we see that scene of Kyle running around
- 34:16Speaker 2: being like, oh my god, the dogs shit come back here,
- 34:19Speaker 2: Like that was so real that you have to get
- 34:22Speaker 2: the dogs under control before you get an Amazon delivery.
- 34:25Speaker 2: That created so much chaos that it was so believable,
- 34:29Speaker 2: And the way the cameras were outside of the room
- 34:31Speaker 2: making it look like that it was brilliant. But again, wow,
- 34:34Speaker 2: you know, so that being said, it was it was
- 34:39Speaker 2: something to see these ladies pull it off. And Kathy
- 34:42Speaker 2: is at the top of this, you know, of this
- 34:45Speaker 2: ladder and Kyle, I mean Kathy and Kyle. They are
- 34:48Speaker 2: brain children when it comes to like marketing, and they
- 34:51Speaker 2: did it. I mean, and I say good for them
- 34:54Speaker 2: that they're going to make out on being suppressed by
- 34:59Speaker 2: the man if you will, or humiliated by the man.
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- 39:22Speaker 2: So wow, Sutton sitting Kyle down before we actually get
- 39:27Speaker 2: to that scene and saying like, I think you need
- 39:30Speaker 2: to file, and Kyle being like, why do you think that?
- 39:34Speaker 2: Or damning, why does anybody need a file? I don't
- 39:36Speaker 2: get filing. And she continues to say that throughout the
- 39:41Speaker 2: show and in her confessional, saying like we're not the norm.
- 39:44Speaker 2: We're not the norm in terms of like the way
- 39:46Speaker 2: that we began our marriage, we built we didn't have anything.
- 39:50Speaker 2: We built this from scratch. Everything is fifty to fifty.
- 39:52Speaker 2: When we split, it's like, that's yours, that's mine. Maybe
- 39:56Speaker 2: it's pompous to say that we aren't the norm. What
- 39:59Speaker 2: are your thoughts because clearly everybody, including us as viewers viewers,
- 40:04Speaker 2: are saying you need to figure this out. Because, as
- 40:08Speaker 2: Sutton said, men don't like parting with their money.
- 40:12Speaker 3: There was a time I think last season when Kyle
- 40:16Speaker 3: got the information out that Mo signed. She just signs
- 40:21Speaker 3: whatever he puts in front of her.
- 40:23Speaker 2: Oh right, right.
- 40:25Speaker 3: Part of me feels like we've been through New Jersey.
- 40:29Speaker 3: She's not an idiot. She knows that Teresa went to
- 40:32Speaker 3: jail for doing that. Right, Yeah, I don't buy that
- 40:36Speaker 3: she's not aware of that. She's aware of that. You know,
- 40:39Speaker 3: there's no world in which she's not. So I feel
- 40:42Speaker 3: right now that Kyle is saying they don't have a company,
- 40:47Speaker 3: they don't have a prenup.
- 40:49Speaker 2: Right.
- 40:50Speaker 3: He has built a massive, massive company, And I think
- 40:57Speaker 3: she is saying these things on camera preach so that
- 41:02Speaker 3: it will be helpful when it comes time to split
- 41:08Speaker 3: these assets. M because she's not that stupid unless.
- 41:14Speaker 2: She is right, and she's not.
- 41:17Speaker 3: She's not.
- 41:19Speaker 2: And if she has Kyle, I'm sorry, if she has
- 41:21Speaker 2: Kathy literally sitting there being like, yeah, Kyle, you need
- 41:25Speaker 2: to be doing this, and that it's like Kathy's gonna
- 41:27Speaker 2: straighten her up right quick and has a long time ago.
- 41:31Speaker 2: Oh I know what I was gonna say. Kathy dropping
- 41:34Speaker 2: that bomb in her confessional about Mauricio, and she's like, well,
- 41:38Speaker 2: let's come to my understanding that he's done a lot
- 41:40Speaker 2: of talking about Hilton and Hyland, and my advice, in
- 41:43Speaker 2: my opinion to Mauricio is gill overed. You know. I mean,
- 41:48Speaker 2: we saw Kathy speak on something that she has never
- 41:54Speaker 2: spoken on, and it's now Kathy is telling us I
- 41:57Speaker 2: turn on Mauricio. A long time ago. I knew he
- 41:59Speaker 2: was a snake then, I know he's a snake now.
- 42:02Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna goof around and be like, how
- 42:05Speaker 2: about the lifting of the weights. We're gonna joke around
- 42:09Speaker 2: about it. But at the end of the day, Kyle,
- 42:11Speaker 2: we're gonna take care of what needs to be taken
- 42:14Speaker 2: care of. And you're gonna listen to me, and you're
- 42:15Speaker 2: gonna listen right quick. You know, I think you're because yeah.
- 42:19Speaker 3: These are titans of industry, like Kathy Hilton Sutton has
- 42:24Speaker 3: had the most epic divorced settlement in the history of
- 42:28Speaker 3: all time. You know, these girls are not playing. These
- 42:32Speaker 3: girls are not playing. And Kyle's lived in Beverly Hills
- 42:36Speaker 3: for most of her life and then Ensino, but like
- 42:39Speaker 3: she knows this is this storyline. She knows what she has,
- 42:45Speaker 3: and she knows what she doesn't have, and I think
- 42:48Speaker 3: what she doesn't have is a prenup.
- 42:50Speaker 2: Right, No, she sure doesn't.
- 42:52Speaker 3: And that is very scary right now, I think for her.
- 42:56Speaker 3: And this is also a man that I believe has
- 42:59Speaker 3: cheated on her relentlessly and allegedly and legdlessly. Think I
- 43:05Speaker 3: think she knows it at the bare minimum, he cheated
- 43:07Speaker 3: on her the last time, right at the bare minimum.
- 43:11Speaker 3: So to be like he's going to like this idea
- 43:14Speaker 3: that she's just protective of mo and like he's going
- 43:17Speaker 3: to do the right thing when he hasn't.
- 43:19Speaker 2: Done the right thing exactly, I don't think so.
- 43:23Speaker 3: I think this is for the public opinion, the lawyers
- 43:28Speaker 3: to get it out there. I think it's it's legal ease.
- 43:32Speaker 2: Wow, And you think that, I mean, Eric is sitting
- 43:35Speaker 2: here going they I mean, come on, you know, like
- 43:38Speaker 2: she's You've got people all around you, Sutton, who has
- 43:43Speaker 2: a lot of money now because of her situation with
- 43:47Speaker 2: her husband, and she's able to get these payments because she,
- 43:51Speaker 2: very much like Kyle, has helped build the business with
- 43:55Speaker 2: her husband and deserves what she's getting because she earned it.
- 43:59Speaker 2: Kyle feels the same way. So for Sutton to be
- 44:02Speaker 2: giving her this advice at this point and for Kyle
- 44:05Speaker 2: to be like, I don't know. I mean, maybe that's
- 44:08Speaker 2: just silly for me to say, but I don't know.
- 44:11Speaker 2: There's way too much going on. I think that when
- 44:14Speaker 2: you said either she totally knows or she really just doesn't,
- 44:18Speaker 2: I have to believe that she one hundred percent knows.
- 44:21Speaker 2: I can't believe that she would be that naive. There's
- 44:24Speaker 2: just no way. In my mind. She's way too smart
- 44:27Speaker 2: for that.
- 44:27Speaker 3: I agree. Unless you know, she is a person who
- 44:31Speaker 3: I think put her head in the sands for some
- 44:33Speaker 3: things that happened in her marriage. And so this is
- 44:37Speaker 3: not unusual, especially women that are very bright. We have
- 44:41Speaker 3: seen it. It's not a news story that you just
- 44:45Speaker 3: want everything to be okay and you're you know, you
- 44:49Speaker 3: have some learned helplessness going on that you're not going
- 44:53Speaker 3: to look at the situation at hand. It's possible. I
- 44:57Speaker 3: just don't quite buy it.
- 45:00Speaker 2: Kyle runs from things. I notice, literally, that was such
- 45:10Speaker 2: a huge theme in this episode.
- 45:12Speaker 3: To me.
- 45:13Speaker 2: I was like, wow, I mean it just all became clear.
- 45:18Speaker 2: All she's been doing her whole time on this show
- 45:21Speaker 2: is running away from things. And settling in focusing on
- 45:25Speaker 2: something else in that moment. And it's very relatable. That
- 45:30Speaker 2: is something that I feel like we all do. I've done.
- 45:32Speaker 2: I know, you kind of like go one hundred percent
- 45:35Speaker 2: into something, but you're ignoring this. That is I mean,
- 45:39Speaker 2: that explains the whole Morgan situation and like how she
- 45:44Speaker 2: can turn something off so easily and quickly, but so
- 45:47Speaker 2: full throttle put her heart and soul into something else authentically.
- 45:52Speaker 2: And it doesn't mean that she wasn't authentically invested in
- 45:55Speaker 2: the other things or the other people or relationships or
- 45:57Speaker 2: projects that she was doing. It just means that she
- 46:00Speaker 2: gets like distracted, she gets hurt, she gets things happen
- 46:05Speaker 2: in her life, and she has to Like it's kind
- 46:07Speaker 2: of in a way a bad pivot in the sense
- 46:09Speaker 2: where you're not actually dealing with stuff that she escapes.
- 46:13Speaker 2: She has these escapes, and like you said, she quite
- 46:16Speaker 2: literally runs runs off camera run and then behind the scenes,
- 46:23Speaker 2: we we don't really know one hundred percent about what's
- 46:26Speaker 2: going on because there's just so much planning.
- 46:29Speaker 3: Management, you know, and sometimes it's almost like when someone's
- 46:34Speaker 3: sick and then like a lot of things happen, and
- 46:37Speaker 3: so it's a pile up and then eventually you're out
- 46:40Speaker 3: of moves. I sort of feel like Kyle has tried
- 46:45Speaker 3: to manage so much of this, yeah, especially the last
- 46:49Speaker 3: three years. And yes, I almost feel like she's almost
- 46:54Speaker 3: out of moves.
- 46:55Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow wow wow. Yeah. Now it's just a matter
- 46:59Speaker 2: of like she wants to stay afloat, and she's just like, okay,
- 47:03Speaker 2: we'll do that. Okay. You know, well these are quick
- 47:06Speaker 2: band aids, yes, because we don't have the type of
- 47:10Speaker 2: you know, foresight to think ahead by seven moves because
- 47:14Speaker 2: there's way too much going on and so much has changed.
- 47:17Speaker 2: I know now I'm talking like abstractly, but when Sutton
- 47:21Speaker 2: does say to her, you need to file, you need
- 47:23Speaker 2: to If you go on to do something after the
- 47:25Speaker 2: date of filing, that's yours. So you know, I'm not
- 47:30Speaker 2: I don't know about all of that, you know, because
- 47:33Speaker 2: but if they are fifty to fifty in terms of
- 47:36Speaker 2: them making money, I suppose in court you wouldn't be
- 47:39Speaker 2: able to prove this one was the one that was
- 47:41Speaker 2: the breadwinner. So then they do need to support you
- 47:44Speaker 2: or give you spousal support. So maybe that's what she
- 47:47Speaker 2: means in this particular situation, and I can understand Kyle
- 47:52Speaker 2: being afraid of filing or moving forward because there's so
- 47:56Speaker 2: much intertwined with their finances and if there's any sort
- 48:01Speaker 2: of wrongdoing or something on the books that's bad by
- 48:06Speaker 2: way of what he did allegedly.
- 48:08Speaker 3: Be on the hook for that, which makes me.
- 48:11Speaker 2: Think she should go off quickly or faster, you know,
- 48:14Speaker 2: to protect herself. But hard something something is really you know,
- 48:19Speaker 2: rotten in Denmark here that I'm a little bit right about,
- 48:23Speaker 2: Like I don't know.
- 48:25Speaker 3: Yeah, there's too much of what she's saying is two
- 48:29Speaker 3: hands off it all, And yeah, I forgot about like
- 48:36Speaker 3: how actually moving forward with the divorce, that is the
- 48:40Speaker 3: forensics are going to go in, because how do you
- 48:43Speaker 3: calculate You need someone to calculate. Okay, you started the business,
- 48:48Speaker 3: let's say, mo, but what how much does the marketing
- 48:52Speaker 3: of being on the show, which is Kyle, what Kyle
- 48:54Speaker 3: brought to the table, and her career that she created
- 48:58Speaker 3: that she brought you onto. How much does that affect
- 49:01Speaker 3: how your business? Did you know? All of that is
- 49:03Speaker 3: just yeah, I don't know how you calculate that. So
- 49:07Speaker 3: that is where I think the forensic people come in
- 49:09Speaker 3: and they assess the whole thing and put a price
- 49:12Speaker 3: on it.
- 49:13Speaker 2: And when Sutton said, when Kyle's like, he says, he says,
- 49:17Speaker 2: he wouldn't have any of this if it weren't for me.
- 49:19Speaker 2: He even said it, he says it interviews, he says it,
- 49:21Speaker 2: and even says it in his book. It's written down.
- 49:23Speaker 2: And Something's like, well, those forensics are gonna come and
- 49:26Speaker 2: fund those books and they're gonna burn them. You know,
- 49:30Speaker 2: I just thought it was such a reality check that
- 49:33Speaker 2: makes so for her to be saying that, just like
- 49:35Speaker 2: it blew my mind. The reasoning she has.
- 49:40Speaker 3: It's too stupid to be.
- 49:42Speaker 2: Too stupid to be real something is yeah, something Maybe
- 49:46Speaker 2: it's just like, Okay, we're going to go through this
- 49:48Speaker 2: whole process of the narrative of these ladies telling Kyle
- 49:53Speaker 2: she needs to get her shit together and we just
- 49:55Speaker 2: need to watch this, and Kyle doesn't understand at first,
- 49:57Speaker 2: but we'll see the evolution of her getting it and
- 50:00Speaker 2: figuring it out and then moving in that direction. I
- 50:02Speaker 2: don't know, but it's very weird.
- 50:06Speaker 3: So the Morgan amy, if I could say, you know,
- 50:11Speaker 3: I'm just thinking about Morgan and Kyle trapes her around
- 50:16Speaker 3: us last season traped here there everywhere, and now this
- 50:21Speaker 3: season she can't say her name. Well, I don't buy that.
- 50:24Speaker 3: I don't if you had to negotiate something with her,
- 50:27Speaker 3: if the relationship has changed, if she doesn't want to
- 50:30Speaker 3: be brought up on the show, you know, you say
- 50:33Speaker 3: to her, you won't be on the show anymore, but
- 50:35Speaker 3: like whatever, I'm going to say your name because you
- 50:39Speaker 3: were very much a part of it. Like, no, I'm
- 50:42Speaker 3: not gonna not say your name when people ask me
- 50:45Speaker 3: how we are, yeah, because that's not authentic or it
- 50:49Speaker 3: just makes no sense.
- 50:50Speaker 2: It doesn't. I honestly think that Kyle was the one
- 50:52Speaker 2: to make that decision, not Morgan. I think Kyle's like, no,
- 50:55Speaker 2: I'm not gonna bring your name up. I'm choosing that.
- 50:58Speaker 2: I don't think Morgan was like, they'll say a night
- 51:01Speaker 2: because I don't want to be I'd like h Like,
- 51:03Speaker 2: I don't think Morgan said to her leave me out
- 51:06Speaker 2: of it. I really don't. I think Kyle made that up.
- 51:09Speaker 2: And maybe it has something to do with the negotiations
- 51:12Speaker 2: and the separating. I don't know. Maybe it has something
- 51:15Speaker 2: to do with that, but it's so strange and that
- 51:18Speaker 2: the Bravo FanFest, like you know, She was asked on
- 51:20Speaker 2: one panel about Morgan and people and she answered it
- 51:25Speaker 2: and I honestly, I think I sent this to you guys,
- 51:27Speaker 2: and you're like, actually, I laughed because people booed when
- 51:31Speaker 2: her answer about Morgan and she's like, I'm not going
- 51:33Speaker 2: to say her name, and people were like booing.
- 51:35Speaker 1: You know.
- 51:36Speaker 2: I felt bad for her because I was like, oh,
- 51:39Speaker 2: I don't want she's deserved to be booze. You know,
- 51:41Speaker 2: that's just not nice, you know, But did laugh, But
- 51:45Speaker 2: it's true, Like you people are like, what are you doing?
- 51:49Speaker 2: And then Andy asked her again in another panel and
- 51:52Speaker 2: she said, it's just you know what, we all know.
- 51:55Speaker 2: She didn't ask to be on this show, so I'm
- 51:58Speaker 2: not going to bring her up. She signed up. She
- 52:00Speaker 2: didn't sign up for this.
- 52:01Speaker 3: I did so and I'm so sorry, babe, But she
- 52:05Speaker 3: didn't ask to be on this show. But she certainly
- 52:08Speaker 3: was on this show.
- 52:10Speaker 2: Yeah, she agreed to it.
- 52:11Speaker 3: Talking about she marched herself cameras deep deep deep here,
- 52:16Speaker 3: I am music this show, ding ding and ing with
- 52:20Speaker 3: the guitar on this show.
- 52:22Speaker 2: On the show, what are you talking about? If Kyle
- 52:26Speaker 2: like runs away from things, she acts like they just
- 52:30Speaker 2: go away magically and they don't. And she has a
- 52:34Speaker 2: hard time explaining how she can just abandon something, you know,
- 52:38Speaker 2: and we're all going, you can't just abandon that. It
- 52:41Speaker 2: does it exists, you know. It's like going back and
- 52:43Speaker 2: taking pages out of a book. You can't really do
- 52:46Speaker 2: that anyway. So totally, all right, Well why don't we
- 52:54Speaker 2: I think it's time to talk about PK and Deury
- 52:55Speaker 2: and that'll be the last thing we talked about.
- 52:57Speaker 3: Oh my god, this episode, I mean and truly, like
- 53:00Speaker 3: there's so much that went on. Okay, all right, and
- 53:04Speaker 3: this was like the thing that felt the biggest.
- 53:06Speaker 2: I know, me, I know, Okay, So why don't we
- 53:10Speaker 2: talk about p K and Dory. So yeah, they meet
- 53:15Speaker 2: at a hotel where he is staying, or a restaurant
- 53:18Speaker 2: and sorry, they met at a restaurant which actually I
- 53:21Speaker 2: believe was Allivet And I think it's the restaurant that
- 53:25Speaker 2: is owned by one of the former Ladies of London,
- 53:28Speaker 2: if you recall. And I've always wanted to go there,
- 53:32Speaker 2: but it's so far it's like in Westwood, you know
- 53:33Speaker 2: what I mean, it's so far far from anyway, you know.
- 53:38Speaker 2: It's just, yeah, we're not getting married too hard. Yeah,
- 53:43Speaker 2: so they they go there to meet and they kiss
- 53:48Speaker 2: and they hug and they sit down and I'm thinking, wow, okay,
- 53:51Speaker 2: And the way that we're introduced to this is that
- 53:53Speaker 2: Deriy is like, we're going to work things out, you know,
- 53:56Speaker 2: he's we're separated, and then we're gonna figure this out together.
- 54:00Speaker 2: But then by the end of it, she's like, what happened?
- 54:02Speaker 2: I don't understand again, what in the world? What's that?
- 54:06Speaker 2: And I'm like, what did we just see? Was this?
- 54:10Speaker 1: Is?
- 54:10Speaker 2: Like, I have so many thoughts about this, Diana, because
- 54:13Speaker 2: my mind is also now going into conspiracy land. I
- 54:16Speaker 2: don't think I really want to do that right now.
- 54:19Speaker 2: So let's just take it. Yeah, let's just take it
- 54:21Speaker 2: at face value. But just know, in the back of
- 54:23Speaker 2: my head, there's a small part of me that thinks, now,
- 54:28Speaker 2: hold up, okay, I'm ready that PK and Durie have
- 54:33Speaker 2: manufactured this so they can remain on the show because
- 54:37Speaker 2: of their money problems. Now I also think if that
- 54:41Speaker 2: is true, Kyle knows and she is not outing them
- 54:46Speaker 2: for it, and that's where I'll leave that. That is
- 54:48Speaker 2: to the side. Okay, But this monologue that PK sat
- 54:53Speaker 2: down and did. It was a literal, literal monologue. It
- 54:58Speaker 2: was like, look at mclothes, Pique. I didn't know how
- 55:03Speaker 2: bad I had this disease. You know, if we speak
- 55:07Speaker 2: to each other the same way we speak to we
- 55:09Speaker 2: speak to server the same way that we speak to
- 55:11Speaker 2: each other, we get kicked out of here. I didn't
- 55:14Speaker 2: realize we've we've been phone out of a Westwald. We
- 55:18Speaker 2: don't like each other. To Rea, we you know, I
- 55:20Speaker 2: made the biggest change. You know, you told me i'd
- 55:23Speaker 2: get sober. I did, What are you doing? What are
- 55:25Speaker 2: you doing? But Piqu, Yeah, we we got it. We're
- 55:30Speaker 2: not talking five times a day. We gotta we've gotta
- 55:32Speaker 2: break the codependency. But we're gonna talk five times a day, right, weird?
- 55:37Speaker 3: Wow, that would be amazing. What are we looking at you?
- 55:40Speaker 3: What are we looking at?
- 55:42Speaker 1: Well?
- 55:43Speaker 3: Wow? What I thought I saw was a man man
- 55:49Speaker 3: child Hipple of that area of the country, Beverly Hills,
- 55:54Speaker 3: who can't handle his wife's success and yeah, has no
- 56:01Speaker 3: ability to be not the main character of their relationship. Hmm.
- 56:08Speaker 3: This storyline about her going out a lot with him
- 56:13Speaker 3: when they first dated is the most idiotic, stunted growth
- 56:20Speaker 3: you have two small children. Bitch, Yeah, what the fuck
- 56:24Speaker 3: are you talking about?
- 56:25Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
- 56:28Speaker 3: You want her to be trapesing around with you? Like,
- 56:31Speaker 3: I hate to break it to you. You have you
- 56:34Speaker 3: are older man, but you have for the age of
- 56:37Speaker 3: your children. But they're there. They do exist. Also, It's
- 56:43Speaker 3: like he seems so freshly sober. If that's the case,
- 56:48Speaker 3: and I believe that, Okay, I'm like, I don't know
- 56:51Speaker 3: now what to believe.
- 56:52Speaker 2: But I know, but I do believe that. I do.
- 56:56Speaker 3: I think, I think, yeah, I mean, I don't think
- 56:59Speaker 3: we have heard that he had a drinking problem, but
- 57:01Speaker 3: it does feel right as well. He's so freshly sober.
- 57:07Speaker 3: And what I'm hearing is he feels like the getting
- 57:12Speaker 3: sober is the prize, right, and that that is the
- 57:16Speaker 3: only thing he's going to be held accountable form and
- 57:20Speaker 3: everything else on this day is Jerid's fault. That's how
- 57:26Speaker 3: I perceived what he had to say about their relationship.
- 57:31Speaker 3: Do I think that she's been kind of really rough
- 57:34Speaker 3: on him as well? I kind of do, and it
- 57:38Speaker 3: may be warranted, you know. I also think that these
- 57:42Speaker 3: two are like the couple you know, and Annie Bernadette
- 57:49Speaker 3: Peters as christer. Yes, they are kind of them.
- 57:55Speaker 2: Whoa, you just blew my mind. And they are their thieves.
- 58:01Speaker 2: They're con artists, you know, they're con artists. I know,
- 58:04Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you guys, because I think that the
- 58:08Speaker 2: truth may lie somewhere in the middle there where their
- 58:12Speaker 2: issues are one hundred percent real? Do I think that
- 58:15Speaker 2: they've had screaming matches where they've said the most horrific
- 58:18Speaker 2: things to each other one million percent? I mean, And
- 58:22Speaker 2: her examples in the confessional were.
- 58:24Speaker 3: Hot shacha ho tatta. She's like, do we scream and
- 58:31Speaker 3: say we'll throw each other off a building?
- 58:33Speaker 2: Yes?
- 58:34Speaker 3: Do we say, I hope all your underwear birds you
- 58:38Speaker 3: know fire? Yes?
- 58:41Speaker 2: Do we say I hope oh your fake teeth fall
- 58:44Speaker 2: out of your mouth right now? And doctor Appa in
- 58:47Speaker 2: Beverly Hills is no longer available for it to be
- 58:51Speaker 2: your doctor. Do we say that? Yes?
- 58:53Speaker 3: Yes? I mean, Yet they were very specifically specific, almost.
- 59:03Speaker 2: Two specific specific. I was like, Dre, we don't need
- 59:07Speaker 2: your examples because they're not landing, and yeah, either we
- 59:12Speaker 2: need more because this is the funniest thing I've ever
- 59:15Speaker 2: heard in my life or none at all, because yeah,
- 59:21Speaker 2: And then also for them for him to be like,
- 59:24Speaker 2: we say the most horrible things to each other. She's like, yes,
- 59:27Speaker 2: indeed we do. Indeed we do. You know, it's like
- 59:30Speaker 2: you can't really picture it in that moment, so for
- 59:33Speaker 2: them to be acknowledging that, it's also a layer of hilarity.
- 59:37Speaker 2: These two nutter butters have got me in a my
- 59:44Speaker 2: panties in a bunch, and I don't know, man, this
- 59:48Speaker 2: has me really thrown for a loop because this whole
- 59:51Speaker 2: season is messing with my mind to the point where
- 59:54Speaker 2: I've never felt this way about the inner workings of
- 59:58Speaker 2: a show before, as to like, yea, what is actually
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: really real and what is put on? And I know
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: that we all kind of thread that needle throughout the zeitgeist,
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: but this has so many deep layers to it that
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: it's going to make it difficult for me to recap
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: this at this point because I don't usually like to
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: go back and pull back the curtain on OZ. I
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: don't like to do that. It's too complicated. I don't
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: think yeah, and it's also like it's not really fun.
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: I like to take it for what it's worth, you know,
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: face at face value, and this situation across the board
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: is really throwing me for a loop.
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: Well, we've had listen, Beverly Hills has from the beginning
- 1:00:43Speaker 3: always been the most calculated city facts facts. You know,
- 1:00:51Speaker 3: the New New York is a close second, but they're
- 1:00:55Speaker 3: not doing it as well. Beverly Hills does it at
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: a pretty high level. But it is also you know,
- 1:01:02Speaker 3: everyone's super aware of the cameras at all times, and
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: so yeah, you know it's interesting. I I mean, I
- 1:01:14Speaker 3: am joying this new jury. Whether it's a agree fabrication,
- 1:01:20Speaker 3: I mean, I think uh more will be revealed. The
- 1:01:27Speaker 3: awareness of p K being like we the relationship is
- 1:01:31Speaker 3: dead over, I'm done with you, right and Dori, it's
- 1:01:36Speaker 3: thinking like there's a world in which we get back together.
- 1:01:39Speaker 3: Did feel very real, okay to me, But that's if
- 1:01:45Speaker 3: it's not all fabricated for reasons of what we're seeing already.
- 1:01:50Speaker 3: As their house is good, he's a key's offen of whatever.
- 1:01:52Speaker 3: That kind of car is a Bugatti or I don't
- 1:01:55Speaker 3: know what they're called. He's taking off in that and
- 1:01:57Speaker 3: their house is going into foreclosure right now, right like
- 1:02:00Speaker 3: they haven't paid the last five months of mortgage currently
- 1:02:04Speaker 3: like to date correct, So what's going so there are
- 1:02:07Speaker 3: money issues that.
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: Are staggering, oh big time.
- 1:02:11Speaker 3: And there have always been, and there's people running up
- 1:02:15Speaker 3: to her on the beach and there's things.
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: Yeah, because here she is interconfessionals going like I've stood
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: by him through bankruptcy, alcoholism. You know, she's listing all
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: these huge things and she's never listed them before until
- 1:02:33Speaker 2: this season. And so why would you just come out
- 1:02:38Speaker 2: blasting you're being shot out of a cannon. And Kyle
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: is like, I don't know this stor eat I I
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: you know, wow? But PK yeah, like really calling it quits,
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: really saying, you know, we're not going to have this
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: type of relationship. It's we have to stop the toxicity
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: and the codependency.
- 1:03:01Speaker 3: It was almost as if he was blaming his alcoholism
- 1:03:05Speaker 3: on the way Druid's cheating treated him throughout the EU.
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: You are so right, yes, yes, yeah that was bullshit.
- 1:03:15Speaker 3: Yeah, not buying that buddy.
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: Really gross.
- 1:03:18Speaker 3: What was the line Erica said. I didn't jut it down,
- 1:03:21Speaker 3: but it really made me laugh. She's like, Kate, p K,
- 1:03:24Speaker 3: and Moe are out living their best life and we're
- 1:03:27Speaker 3: stuck in where were we? She was like, and we're
- 1:03:30Speaker 3: here fighting in Cino was it. I don't know, like.
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: That's so funny. You're so right. She did say that.
- 1:03:37Speaker 3: Erica is so good this season.
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: She's gonna she's just gonna skate along through everyone else's issues,
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: and she's she deserves it. You know, she's done through
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: the ringer.
- 1:03:47Speaker 3: She seems authentic, she seems relaxed, she seems in the pocket.
- 1:03:52Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, if everything's calmed down legally
- 1:03:57Speaker 3: and she can breathe again. But wow, yeah, love love
- 1:04:01Speaker 3: this color on her.
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: Also, it was great to see that Bose's house is
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: in Hancock Park by Erica. Yeah nice, Yeah, Okay, well
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: I think we'll have to wrap up there, but you know,
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: really amazing and I just what an incredible show, so
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: much more to discuss, Deanna, thank you so much for
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: just drilling down with me and Darling's all darlings more
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: over on the patreon dot com slash drama Darling for
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: more recaps, and please check out Deanna Chang's website you
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: If you go there, you will see all the links
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: to how to Be less Old, her incredible substack, which
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: has a great podcast. It's a really fun binge if
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: you want to like Over the Thanksgiving break there, give
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: me an episode that's a really fun one on your substack,
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: and it's, by the way, it's available anywhere you listen
- 1:04:59Speaker 2: to pod cast something that you've done lately that you
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: feel like has really been popping off that the darlings
- 1:05:05Speaker 2: can listen to.
- 1:05:07Speaker 3: You know, I will say that this isn't necessarily on
- 1:05:11Speaker 3: being less old, but like the Black Friday of it
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: all has me in a choke hold, a choke hold.
- 1:05:18Speaker 3: This Black Friday has had its way with me. It
- 1:05:22Speaker 3: started four weeks ago and it is the lead up
- 1:05:26Speaker 3: to it, so we really unpack, like what items are
- 1:05:31Speaker 3: are you know, are having their way with us right now?
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: Nice? Nice?
- 1:05:36Speaker 3: You know I went to the Sabrina car the last episode.
- 1:05:39Speaker 3: I also went to the Sabrina Carpenter concert and got
- 1:05:42Speaker 3: my eye on the youths and what they were wearing
- 1:05:45Speaker 3: and night take away that, Wow, yeah, this is some groundwork.
- 1:05:50Speaker 2: Really okay, this is great. All right, thank you for that.
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: I think the darlings are going to really love that.
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: And Happy Thanksgiving, So thankful for you all. Really appreciate it,
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- 1:06:06Speaker 1: Guys Drama, Darling