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Bills vs Panthers Preseason Recap - Risers, Fallers, & More | DC & C1 Buf · Disguised Coverage

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  Speaker 1: It's thirty eight.
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  Speaker 2: All Bills can win.
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  Speaker 3: In here, Wake puts it down, the kick is on
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  Speaker 3: the way and dock m.
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  Speaker 1: The bell good one?
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  Speaker 2: How the hell that one.
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  Speaker 3: Home?
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  Speaker 1: How one?
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  Speaker 2: They were a party one not party way?
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  Speaker 1: Incredible?
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  Speaker 3: Why not combat by my bell?
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  Speaker 4: Jacksonville's perfect record on the line right here.
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  Speaker 3: Quick kicking, look excited. Touchdown Kyle Williams touchdound amazing, unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: They puttied william who's has to full back and he
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  Speaker 3: scores a touchdown. It's wealthier to face tackle.
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  Speaker 1: What's good folks, family, friends, loved ones, enemies, frenemies, wizards,
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  Speaker 1: which is muggles, mud bloods, people of Middle Earth to
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  Speaker 1: a special preseason post game disguise coverage Cover one Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: Good Evening mash Up edition. Here we have myself, Greg Thompson,
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  Speaker 1: Colin Ritchie, all three of us sat together in the
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  Speaker 1: shade today at the new high Mark Stadium to watch
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  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills in Carolina Panthers kick off the preseason.
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  Speaker 1: And so we are here to discuss that reaction notes, thoughts,
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  Speaker 1: answer any questions, comments, concerns, talk about the field. Because
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  Speaker 1: that was a big talking point. I had so many
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  Speaker 1: people coming back at me because I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: the field had some divots and some people are like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's grass that happens. So that was fun to have
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  Speaker 1: those social media interactions. But yeah, late night Saturday night action,
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  Speaker 1: you know, cover one after dark type stuff, Greg, how
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  Speaker 1: are you? Start with you? And then kick it over
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  Speaker 1: to Colin.
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  Speaker 4: Good lovely. It was an amazing day, amazing weekend. Spent
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  Speaker 4: Friday night at the Erie County Fair with my daughter
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  Speaker 4: and my nephews and brought them to the game today.
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  Speaker 4: We went through, as you said, thank god, got to
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  Speaker 4: enjoy the game in the shade. I underestimated how much
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  Speaker 4: walking around I was going to be doing prior to
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  Speaker 4: so I got a little more sun than I anticipated
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  Speaker 4: prior to the game. But the game itself was lovely.
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  Speaker 4: We were in the shade the entire time, in the
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  Speaker 4: immaculate palace of our new Highmark Stadium. And we'll talk
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  Speaker 4: a little bit about that as the game goes. Like
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  Speaker 4: you said, some interesting things about the field, but an
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  Speaker 4: amazing experience, amazing night there. So excited to talk about
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  Speaker 4: it here with you guys. How would you come?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, this was my first time in the new stadium,
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  Speaker 5: so being able to take it all in, see the
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  Speaker 5: giant buffaloes in person, and all the small little easter
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  Speaker 5: eggs that we were talking about in the stadium that
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  Speaker 5: we saw. It was a really cool environment to be
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  Speaker 5: a part of and a great test run for the
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  Speaker 5: regular season coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, can't wait, can't wait?
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  Speaker 1: Can't wait?
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  Speaker 2: Now?
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  Speaker 1: What's a Bart Scott? Is it can't wait? Is that
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  Speaker 1: can't wait? I'm thinking of it?
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  Speaker 2: Can't wait?
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  Speaker 1: Can't wait? Right, Bart Scott? Right, Yes, it's a good call, Scott,
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  Speaker 1: Jet's legend, Raven's legend.
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  Speaker 4: So what for things you can't wait for? What stuck
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  Speaker 4: out to you the most? From a positive just overall
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  Speaker 4: high level thoughts? What what stuck out to you the most?
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  Speaker 1: Anthony, It's two especially just like kind of watching it
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  Speaker 1: in person, not watching any tape, not watching it from
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  Speaker 1: the comfort of Mike Houch and me out. I made
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  Speaker 1: this joke to Colin earlier, like not being able to
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  Speaker 1: like pause everything and rewind, fast forward in slow motion
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  Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Offensively, it was and some of
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  Speaker 1: the stuff we talked about earlier today when we were together,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the under center play action and then that
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  Speaker 1: specifically leading to like shots in the intermediate potentially some
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  Speaker 1: stuff deep like kind of using that to generate chunk
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  Speaker 1: plays I thought was notable, and then you know Carolina
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  Speaker 1: was missing. There are two starting guards today, if I'm correct,
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  Speaker 1: right Colin. I think we just loved that earlier. Yep,
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  Speaker 1: And so Devil's Advocate kind of put that out there.
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  Speaker 1: But the Bills run defense look good and that makes
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  Speaker 1: me really excited because like that's kind of all you know,
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  Speaker 1: we were making the joke earlier of like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think you're only here for I feel like you're
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  Speaker 1: only here for the zip line, Like I was only
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  Speaker 1: here for the defense today. Like that's where I was
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  Speaker 1: like I wanted. I was like, okay, DJ Moore, Cool.
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  Speaker 1: The offense is the same. They're a good offense. We'll
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  Speaker 1: see what happens at left guard. But they're gonna run
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  Speaker 1: the ball well, they're going to pass well, they've got
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  Speaker 1: there built for today's NFL. Cool. I was very much like,
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  Speaker 1: get me to the defense. How much odd front stuff
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  Speaker 1: are we going to get? Who's at linebacker? What's the rotation?
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  Speaker 1: But all of that was like subplots to the bigger
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  Speaker 1: story of are they going to get like pushed around
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  Speaker 1: or what's the run defense look like? And granted Carolina
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  Speaker 1: Ransom Zone, which I thought played better into the Bills's hands,
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  Speaker 1: but I think it was literally the first play of
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  Speaker 1: the game, Dion Walker gets that stop and we were
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  Speaker 1: kind of off to the races with watching them kind
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  Speaker 1: of gum things up regularly. And so those were my
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  Speaker 1: two biggest ones.
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  Speaker 2: How would you kill?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I mean in terms of the defense, And was just
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  Speaker 5: touching on this. The first two plays we had five
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  Speaker 5: man fronts and then third down we were running man
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  Speaker 5: coverage and it's like, what defense is this? This is
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  Speaker 5: where are we The exact opposite of the Sean McDermott experience,
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  Speaker 5: and so that was great to see right from the
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  Speaker 5: very beginning with all the starters on the field, and
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  Speaker 5: then offensively, there were just guys running open and that's
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  Speaker 5: not something we're used to seeing a lot of and
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  Speaker 5: obviously DJ Moore plays a big factor in that, but
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  Speaker 5: Kaloshakir had a positive average depth of target. That's not
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  Speaker 5: something we're used to seeing it either. It was just
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  Speaker 5: great to see these receivers get downfield and have open
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  Speaker 5: space to run into and catch the ball and be
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  Speaker 5: able to turn up field.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think a lot of fans see when they
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  Speaker 4: hear passing down the field, they envision forwards and they envision,
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  Speaker 4: you know, thirty five forty yard passes.
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  Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, those are fun.
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  Speaker 4: There was a moment where we wanted one to happen,
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  Speaker 4: and we debated whether the quarterback on the field literally
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  Speaker 4: physically capable of making the pass that was needed. But
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  Speaker 4: what I was excited about was the fact that in
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  Speaker 4: the NFL, passing down the field and taking advantage of
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  Speaker 4: space and taking those you know, being aggressive downfield in
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  Speaker 4: reality and the current NFL is really fifteen to twenty
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  Speaker 4: yards is can you get the ball down the field?
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  Speaker 4: Not just checkdowns and not swings, and not just immediately
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  Speaker 4: in the line of scrimmage, but can you threaten that
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  Speaker 4: when they're dropping back and giving space that layer between
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  Speaker 4: queen the front where the coverage is created, are you
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  Speaker 4: able to get the ball into that space. I love
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  Speaker 4: the fact that we saw that consistently, like layering those
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  Speaker 4: throws in the post gampressor Klosha here that couldn't talk
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  Speaker 4: enough about the ball that Josh put over the defense
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  Speaker 4: into that spot to DJ Moore along the sideline on
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  Speaker 4: that outbreaking route and just being in a position where
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  Speaker 4: like we're taking those shots down the field and account
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  Speaker 4: you know, joked about it that you know close here
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  Speaker 4: is capable of being an intermediate receiver and that you
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  Speaker 4: know he is able to do those things. And obviously,
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  Speaker 4: like the biggest highlight play was a broken coverage by Carolina,
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  Speaker 4: but seeing you know, DJ Moore running and literally like
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  Speaker 4: like Leonard Fournette asking for the contact to come there.
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  Speaker 4: But it was fun to see that movement down the
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  Speaker 4: field and I think that is intentional of what's there.
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  Speaker 2: And then the other part.
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  Speaker 4: On defense, like you said, was wanting to see I
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  Speaker 4: know it's gonna be different. I know there's gonna be
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  Speaker 4: pieces that are gonna, you know, end up being used
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  Speaker 4: differently than what we're used to. But the immediacy of
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  Speaker 4: matching personnel, it was odd front the first two plays.
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  Speaker 4: Immediately then you have Landy Jackson come off, you have
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  Speaker 4: d Alford come in, and it converts to nickel, but they.
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  Speaker 2: Run it with man.
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  Speaker 4: But then also we I didn't realize it was person
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  Speaker 4: as personnel driven as it was until the second drive
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  Speaker 4: with the same starters and d Elford's in on the
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  Speaker 4: first snap, and that it's immediately opening up matching the
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  Speaker 4: eleven personnel of what's there. So I love that look
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  Speaker 4: that it wasn't like, hey, no, we're going to go
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  Speaker 4: base based nickel like, which again I don't want to.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a huge John McDermot apologist. I love Sean McDermott.
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  Speaker 4: I still have a soft spot in my heart for him,
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  Speaker 4: but base based nickel is the kind of thing I
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  Speaker 4: would have expected John de Derbott to kind of schedule
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  Speaker 4: as things went, and I loved the fact that we
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  Speaker 4: lined up and matched already to what it was going
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  Speaker 4: to be like. And at first I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: it was kind of interesting that I thought the starting
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  Speaker 4: defense state the game longer.
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  Speaker 2: To be able to do that, but it was.
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  Speaker 4: It was just that it took them three or four
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  Speaker 4: drives to get their ten snaps that should that Josh Ellen.
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  Speaker 2: Got in two drives.
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  Speaker 4: It took them through or four drives to get that
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  Speaker 4: because all of them are three and outs, so they
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  Speaker 4: it took them more drives to get their allotment of
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  Speaker 4: ten snaps first starter or whatever. Roughly it seems like
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  Speaker 4: what it was, but when you go three and out,
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  Speaker 4: three and out, three and out, it takes you a
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  Speaker 4: little while to get there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it takes you.
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  Speaker 1: It takes a quick second. I like the point. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we already spoke about a little here, and we were
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  Speaker 1: talking about a bunch during the day, like the the
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  Speaker 1: Khalisha Kiir aspect and oh man like nat and I
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have a negative average at the target in hah
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  Speaker 1: and all this like the the Bills last year, despite
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  Speaker 1: you know, not pushing the ball downfield a ton. So
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  Speaker 1: out of forty three qualifying quarterbacks last year, josh Allen
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  Speaker 1: was twenty eighth an average depth of target at seven
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  Speaker 1: point eight percent, and each of the past four years,
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  Speaker 1: as his average depth of target has gone down, the
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  Speaker 1: percentage of yardage of passing yardage for him duty yards
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  Speaker 1: after catch has gone up. But despite that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: especially last year, the Bills were still seventh in explosive
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  Speaker 1: passing plays plays of fifteen or more yards, So they
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  Speaker 1: weren't pushing the ball downfield, but they were doing these
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  Speaker 1: little you know, quote unquote like dink and dunks and
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  Speaker 1: then Khalils Shakir mainly, but other guys break a tackle
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  Speaker 1: kind of generate yardage, so they were getting you know,
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  Speaker 1: explosive passes, but they weren't doing it with air yards,
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  Speaker 1: and so I'm really excited to see this potential because
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  Speaker 1: we saw it in camp, we saw it in Blue
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  Speaker 1: and Red scrimmage. I like seeing it already in week
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  Speaker 1: one of the preseason that you know, if they are
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  Speaker 1: able to kind of push the ball down field from
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  Speaker 1: an air yards perspective, because again they were able to
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  Speaker 1: generate explosives just more due to like, hey, let's just
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  Speaker 1: get this guy the ball real quick and let it
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  Speaker 1: let them do something whoever it is. Now, if they
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  Speaker 1: can add that extra element, and then if we can
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  Speaker 1: push it even further, if we can get some stuff
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  Speaker 1: twenty yards or more downfield, whether it's djmore or whoever,
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  Speaker 1: it really starts to become like what do you do
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  Speaker 1: with this offense? Like the run game that they have,
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  Speaker 1: the short yards after catch, break tackle stuff, intermediate stuff,
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  Speaker 1: deep ball stuff. You've got athleticism, you've got some route running,
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  Speaker 1: you've got some straight up mash you and run through
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  Speaker 1: your face and all of this isn't like, guys, it's
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  Speaker 1: one preseason game, like you know, pump the rigs. This
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  Speaker 1: is something we've seen all since training camp started, like
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  Speaker 1: day one on camp, they were pushing the ball downfield
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  Speaker 1: a good chunk and I liked seeing it continue here
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  Speaker 1: in week one of the preseason. They're not tipping their
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  Speaker 1: hand too much, but it seems like they've made a
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  Speaker 1: concerted effort to rectify that, and that was kind of
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  Speaker 1: really the only thing that was missing, like more air
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  Speaker 1: yards and more deep shots and completions there, and the
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  Speaker 1: fact that they've kind of seemingly worked to address that
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  Speaker 1: in some capacity is as our just really exciting to
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  Speaker 1: see from week one in the preseason.
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  Speaker 5: And obviously the addition of DJ Moore helps with that,
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  Speaker 5: but so does the health of josh Palmer, and that,
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  Speaker 5: you know, slots everyone in better and so Colosial here
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  Speaker 5: isn't your most reliable downfield threat, and maybe Skyler Bell
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  Speaker 5: turns into something. I know there's someone in the comments
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  Speaker 5: asking about him. He didn't play today, he had an injury,
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  Speaker 5: but he's in a more reasonable spot in the pecking
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  Speaker 5: order because of the of DJ Moore arriving and Joshua
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  Speaker 5: Palmer being healthy, and that just also fine tunes everything
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  Speaker 5: and makes it easier for Joe Brady and Josh.
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  Speaker 4: Allen Fortune and Joe Brady said that if it was
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  Speaker 4: a regular season game he would have played. They were
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  Speaker 4: just being cautious with what's there. So how nice was
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  Speaker 4: it that we didn't really notice that Dawson Knox or
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  Speaker 4: Dalton Kinkaid didn't get a ball. It wasn't like lacking.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't a big concern. And again, they were only
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  Speaker 4: playing the first couple drives anyways, But it wasn't like
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  Speaker 4: a huge red flag that that would have been like
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  Speaker 4: a major issue previously because they were able to get
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  Speaker 4: right there that we didn't even hit the tight ends
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  Speaker 4: and we're on pace to put up a pajillion points.
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  Speaker 2: Before we get into some.
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  Speaker 4: Of the individual Obviously, tonight, I think we're not going
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  Speaker 4: to go drive by drive and go through all the
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  Speaker 4: intricacies of everything that's there. Will all of us will
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  Speaker 4: be able to go sit down and watch the actual
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  Speaker 4: game in the film itself once we get a chance
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  Speaker 4: to go through them, or try to do some of that.
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  Speaker 4: Tomorrow night, we'll go through some of the individuals. This
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  Speaker 4: stood out because I think that's the biggest takeaway for
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  Speaker 4: games like this, maybe a couple of the high level
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  Speaker 4: things that were maybe not as good or a challenge
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  Speaker 4: one is I was certainly in preseason form every other play,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know who someone was, Like the amount of
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  Speaker 4: jersey number changes plus new players last minute added to
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  Speaker 4: the roster, recent signings, guys who we've never seen in
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  Speaker 4: a Bill's uniform before that, Like, oh, I knew that
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  Speaker 4: guy was on the team, but I didn't even know
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  Speaker 4: he wore you know, number thirty two, where I didn't
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  Speaker 4: even know he wore. I didn't know can I Walker
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  Speaker 4: was number forty one, Like just going through moments like
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  Speaker 4: that because I didn't have a chance to get out
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  Speaker 4: to camp, so I knew the reports of how guys
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  Speaker 4: were doing. And you obviously you know anthe Anthea, you
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  Speaker 4: did a great job at camp going through there, so
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  Speaker 4: I knew the names and the people. But I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: that's literally the first time I saw him where number
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  Speaker 4: forty one, And took me a second like, oh, that's
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  Speaker 4: who Knightwalker is. Like when number seven was back there
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  Speaker 4: you joked earlier, but why is Terren Johnson back for
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  Speaker 4: the thing? Or like oh, Taylor rep looks really thick
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  Speaker 4: up there on the edge. Just multiple guys like oh yeah,
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  Speaker 4: those guys aren't on the team anymore.
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  Speaker 2: It just every other play.
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  Speaker 4: It was taking me a second to recalibrate, where like
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  Speaker 4: that's just such a default of like knowing exactly who
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  Speaker 4: guys are and like you don't need to think or
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  Speaker 4: hesitate on who's in what spot and I don't have
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  Speaker 4: those reps yeah and be like wait, wait, okay, now
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  Speaker 4: I know who that is, and just adding that extra
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  Speaker 4: time was hurt in my brain.
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  Speaker 1: Colin and I were talking about because what I had
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  Speaker 1: happened to me in camp happened to him when he was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, been at practices seeing you see number fifty
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  Speaker 1: like dropping in coverage and you're like, man like, look
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  Speaker 1: at what they're doing with Rousseau and it's like, no,
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  Speaker 1: that's not him anymore. He's fifteen. And it's just yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's so many like usually every year, and it's funny too,
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  Speaker 1: especially with the Bean McDermott era, and especially on the
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  Speaker 1: defensive side, like you kind of knew what you were
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  Speaker 1: getting year after year, and so the numbers kind of
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  Speaker 1: stayed the same. And now it's you know, new players,
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  Speaker 1: plus the jersey changes, and then I think plus like
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  Speaker 1: anybody can wear any number now, Like it's it's godlessness.
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  Speaker 4: It's one of my own man old man shakes fistic
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  Speaker 4: cloud takes like I used to love the fact that
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  Speaker 4: I knew automatically, instinctually, even in the game of a
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  Speaker 4: team I'm not following, I know what who a guy
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  Speaker 4: is by the range of numbers they could wear, Like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I know, Oh, that's interesting that there's a corner in
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  Speaker 4: that spect. Oh no, they just let defensive ends wear
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  Speaker 4: number nine now or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Just I used to always thinking college football was so cool.
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  Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, look at this linebacker, where's twenty two?
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  Speaker 1: Were like this defensive tackle, where's five? I was like, man,
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  Speaker 1: they should do that in the NFL. Now, what's happening?
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  Speaker 1: I was like, good lord, what have I done?
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  Speaker 5: Like, well, Greg, if it makes you feel any better,
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  Speaker 5: I'm a younger man and I have the same complaint,
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  Speaker 5: Like I feel like I'm a purist in that regard.
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  Speaker 5: Ad dresser shouldn't be wearing nine and fifteen, running back
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  Speaker 5: sholm be wearing seven. Off ball linebackers shouldn't be wearing fifty.
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  Speaker 5: It's just have some class people.
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  Speaker 4: There are states where Jadavian Clowney were in twenty four
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  Speaker 4: would have been a crime, Like that's just like, that's inappropriate.
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  Speaker 1: It's inappropriate, it's appropriate.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: We live in a society like that is that is.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Not we have rules here, like.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: I oh, it's like it's just like skin crawling. It's
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: a skin crawling. It's terrible. It's so bad, all right.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: So now, like to the actual focus of what's here,
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: let's start on the offensive side of the ball. Who
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: were in again, Obviously DJ Moore was awesome, Josh Allen's
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: really good, Like, those are fun things. Some of the
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: guys that may be more like fighting for a roster
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: spot or fighting for a positional battle. Who is someone
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: that stuck out? Let's start on the positive side. We
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: can talk about anyone else that's stuck out negatively that
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: flashed for you, that you thought was interesting, that was
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: out there and caught your eye. Positively, on the offensive side,
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: we'll start with you in.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna kind of group him as a as
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: a group the running backs. Again. You know, cook does
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: cook things, and we saw Ray Davis do some stuff.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: But I thought Wheeler looked good. Frank Gore continues to
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Frank Gore Junior is not sexy by any means, but
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: he just like consistently like I actually should attracked it, Like,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I feel like he has to have a very high
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: success rate of things. He just always seems like if
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: he if they get three yards, he gets four. Yeah,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: he's just making positive plays consistently. H Wheeler had some
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: good runs today too, And I think a lot of
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: that speaks to more of the run game overall, the
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: offensive line, And like the bigger point for me here
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: is like using the running backs and the run game
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: to make me feel better that now that Aaron Kromer's gone,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: the run game isn't going to fall apart. Like I
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: still think there will be some semblance of you know,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: you had one of the best offensive line coaches and
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: assistant coaches in all of football who also called your
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: run game. It's understandable that, you know there, you know,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: maybe you drop from like fourth best to sixth or
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: seventh best or something. But it was nice to see
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: them still be Nope, we're just gonna run duo and
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: it's going to be wide open, and we're going to
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: drive our running backs right through your face on it.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Left right, left right. That was also something I noticed too,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: more duo to the left today. I feel like they
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, if I had Spencer Brown and Osiris Torrents
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: on the right side of my line. I would probably
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: run behind them a ton too, But yeah, that I
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: thought the running backs looked good, like as an entire group,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: like collectively today, and I think that speaks to them,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: but also to the offensive line and the design. It
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: was nice to see that kind of from first string
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: to last string. The backs were rolling, they had space,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: they had yards before contact, and I thought they were
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: seeing the field well.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: So mine was because the bar was really low from
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: you and from literally everyone else who was at camp.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: I was expecting a absolute disaster from the backup quarterbacks,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: and they were functional, like, they were efficient, They ran
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: the offense properly. You know, we joked again about my
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: my rant of everyone else is somewhere on the spectrum
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: of not Josh Allen, and I don't particularly care where
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: you fall on that spectrum. In the future, someday I
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: will get a Day three pick with contract control and
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: all the all the fun things go with that. But
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: you know, again, it's the Panthers, It's not you know,
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: it's the dumb down. You know, Nathan Peterman looked good
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: in the preseason. People forget that he looked fantastic that preseason,
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: So this is not something to write home about. But
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: I was ready for an absolute denomination. I was ready
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: for dirted balls and terrible decision making and scrambling and
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: panic and that just the level of I don't want
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: to say like panic, but like the level of concern
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: or the drum beat out of camp of how poor
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: the backup quarterbacks were playing. I was prepared for, like, oh,
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: I hope this is so functional. And again that you know,
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: preseason production is not everything. But Cawai at fourteen out
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: of sixteen four hundred and eight yards, Bushelle at six
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: out of nine for fifty yards, no turnovers from either
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: of them, only two sacks for Kyi on and both of
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: them were not his fault, Like those were the plays
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: where there was nowhere else to go into one Memora.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: I think he even like stepped up in and reduced
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: the amount of lost yardage, which is sometimes you know,
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: the lesser of evils for some.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Of those things.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: So again, not anything exciting, I hope doesn't even matter,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: but I just met the bar for me was so
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: low that like, oh, these guys are functioning, and again,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: what's going to matter when we actually go to watch
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: the game in full is you can then actually evaluate
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: the other players, because the worst thing to have is
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: when you don't have a functional quarterback in a preseason
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: game and you really want to watch a receiver, you
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: really want to watch a tight end, or you really
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: want to watch pieces of an offense, you can't figure
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: anything out because the quarterback can't function to actually run
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: the offense. It could be really frustrating to try to
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: get a read on anything what's going on. So I
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: at least like that they kept the wheels in motion
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: and kept the train on the track to.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Like, hey, Kyle Allen, let us watch anything else.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Allen was the one who had a couple throws. Kyle
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Allen was the one who had a couple of throws
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: day where all three of us were like, oh, like,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: when the bills were coming towards us, he made a
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: couple of layer throws where we were like wow, like
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: oh like and then it stopped kind of becoming like
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: a high voice wrecking. Now it was instead of going
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: like oh, it was just like oh, like no, he
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: just keep Yeah. He had several throws today that it
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: was just like, man, this is kind of fun. And
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: then we quickly went from that to be like, wouldn't
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: it be cool if the Bills had like a Tyson
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Pagent or some fun backup quarterback for like four years.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, someday, someday.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: All right, you can double dip here coll and anybody
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: else that we didn't touch on yet. This stut out
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: to you positively and then maybe the first one that
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: was maybe a little bit of the concern or anything
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: negative on the opposite side.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So I was gonna go with the backup quarterback,
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: but I'll go a different route because you address that.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: But I completely agree with what you're saying, especially Kyle Allen.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: I found myself pleasantly surprised with him. There are a
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: couple of receivers that I don't know what the odds
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: are of them actually making the fifty three man roster,
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: but in terms of fighting for a spot on the
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: practice squad, and then who knows if we need to
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: call one of them up for game day in the future.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: But Steven Gosnell had a couple of nice plays, three
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: catches for forty four yards. Jacry Macklin had that nice
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: one handed catch. He missed the two plank conversion. I
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: was informed that it was more the pass than him.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: It could have been caught, but from the TV angle,
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: it was more the pass was off. But yeah, you
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: had that one handed catch. So just guys like that
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: still we don't perceive them as having a chance to
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: make the fifty three. But they're still fighting for jobs
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: in the NFL and a spot in the Bills organization,
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: even I it's with the practice squad instead of the
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: fifty three man roster.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: The guys, the guy, the gouys, anything, how about maybe
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: a concern or a guy who you think you know
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: not that got himselves cut but it might have not
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: helped his chances today.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, all these guys are making the team because
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: they were out with the first team. But Josh Allen
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: took a couple of hits. There's some comments in the
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: chat about that. We saw Spencer Brown get beat really
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: cleanly on a cut inside by Jalen Phillips that resulted
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: in Josh needed to strong arm him away and throw
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: it out of bounds. Not something you want to see
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: from your all world quarterback in the preseason getting under
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: dress that frequently. But we also have to remember that
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: no Connor McGovern and you're still trying to figure out
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: who you're starting left guard is, so there are posentially
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: two backups on that offensive line as they're still trying
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: to sort things out. But not my favorite thing to
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: see in the preseason.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna mention, you know, again, it's only
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: a snap or two, but there was more than one
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: negative flash for Spencer Brown. I was like, hey, come on, Like,
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: I know it's just preseason and we're not game planning
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: here and there's no like extra chips or help or
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: anything like that, but like, hey, I don't I'm not
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: looking to see that. Obviously in the moment, the maybe
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: concern for Alec Anderson, but he came right back in
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: so that didn't seem to be an issue. But you know,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: I was concerned with Connor McGovern being out and that
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: ended up being not too big of a concern. Again,
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: it's so hard to see anything for line play live
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: while you're watching, so there was nothing obvious with either
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Vamparank Granger, but it seemed like Chrishion Barry was good.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Got both drives where you swapped with the other two
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: for Anderson in Corbett at left guard, so Kushian Berry
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: getting both drives seems pretty definitively so far that he's
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: a notch ahead of Vamparan Granger, which such a weird
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Like I was getting messages of like, should we you know,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: let McGovern walk since we have Vamparan Grainger and like, oh,
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: do you think we could flip him for a day
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: two pick? And I just kept like, what do people
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: think that he is? Like I just didn't understand like
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: the the founding of like where it was coming from.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: We got some really good college highlights and that's what
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: most people look at, and so like you see a
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: center out in space mauling somebody and you're like, oh,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I should like play.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: It was just like it was it was a known
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: like a certainty that we had this hidden gem that
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: wasn't allowed to show what he was going to do
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: because we were we had to play kind of McGovern.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: It just just just good to pump the brakes a
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: little bit there. And then, you know, I don't think
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: there was anything, you know, concerning from a receiver standpoint,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: But I don't know that I saw anyone like show
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: anything there for whether it was Hardman or Pettis or
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: anyone there. You know, I was kind of hoping someone
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: in that bottom group might lash a little bit like
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: Josh Palmer.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: I saw him on the field.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: I know he was playing, but I don't didn't see
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: anything there.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: So if anything, by.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: Default, like Kean Coleman actually like look pretty decent as
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: the third receiver. There was certainly the guy that was
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: in in three receiver sets, so I was kind of
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: hoping one of those guys would do something to be like, oh,
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: that's going to be an element in fairness.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Hartman didn't have that.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Nice jet sweep later on that that you know, obviously
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: something he can do in that that gadgety type role.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: But yeah, the offense looked good, so like there's not
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: gonna be a ton of downside for things. But anybody
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: that we didn't touch on yet that stuck out to
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: you in.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: No, it was really just the and I want to
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: see that the tape, but it was the offensive line,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: you know. I Colin mentioned the one I think the
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: one that ended the first drive when Phillips beat Brown
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: inside but across the board and some numbers always get tweaked,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: as you know, reports finally come through. But the Panthers
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: as a team had a fifty pass rushing had a
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: fifty four point eight win percentage today, which is super high.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: The Bills, for reference, who generated some pressure and did
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: good today on their own, they had a forty win
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: rate today. The Panthers had a forty two point nine
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: percent pressure rate. The Bills had a twenty eight point
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: nine percent pressure rate. And then the Panthers had a
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: thirty two point one pass us productivity score. The Bills
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: had a twenty two point two. So kind of, however
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: you slice it, starters through the third team, Carolina team,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, the numbers bear it out, but I think
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: even just watching it from the stands, it felt like
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen was under some pressure. Shell was under some pressure,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Kyle Allen was under some pressure, and so I I
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: that would be the one downside, like the big one
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: that stuck on. I kind of okay? Was it? Was
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: it more protection based? Was it certain players who were
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: getting consistently beat? Is there something to tug on here?
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Is it you know, nothing in its preseason or whatever?
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: But that that, to me was was was the biggest one.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: And when I looked at the numbers back, I wonder
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: if you know these numbers are out yet or what
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: it looks like and I saw him and I was like, yesh,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: so it is like what I kind of thought it was.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: And so yeah, that that that's the big one for
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: me right now.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: And obviously the results show that, you know, the Bills
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: quarterbacks dealt with the pressure better than the pan Thirst quarterback.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: So like some fans will be like, oh, what do
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: you mean the offense look great, be like, well, that
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: can be one. Josh is the ultimate example of making
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: that right. Like the touchdown to keyn Coleman is a
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: perfect example where like that's just a Josh Allen play,
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Like you're not You're not supposed to roll out to
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: the right and turn to throw back across your body
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: and that for you know, probably twenty seven other quarterbacks
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: in the NFL, that's interception, Like that ball doesn't get
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: there and that's intercepted. But you know, Josh's Josh, so
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: that those things work. But like as far as the
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: offensive line goes multiple those plays, whether he escaped, whether
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: he made something out of it or did take actual
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: you know, in actual sack in that but nextually took
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: a second one that got wiped away because of the
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: face mask. But he actually took two sacks on that
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: right got hit, you know. So there's a couple other
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: spots where they got bailed out on a couple of things.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: So yeah, we'll watch it. And I don't think it
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: was like a disaster, but it's not shocking that those
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: numbers netted that out. And I do think a small
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: piece of that is the no game plan. They're not
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: doing a lot of extra chips and help for different
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: things there, so that plenty of that's not a major concern,
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: but I prefer not to see it. All right, you
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: guys take a break. We're gonna flip over to defense.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna talk about Dan Walker maybe thirty forty minutes.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Will you guys come back in a minute.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: So you decide.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Uh, just the timing of wearing my large human jersey
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: for the first time, and he destroyed like three of
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: the first five plays of the game, like all all
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: you know, context included. I'm pretty sure it was against
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: the backup Panthers guard on a couple of the plays.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I don't even know who starts at center for the Panthers.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Cole Mays was also out.
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: Luke Fortner, I had to look that.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: God bless lu Portner that it's still fun that he
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: looked ridiculous and was one of the guys that was
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: brought up as a player that potentially may benefit from
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: the scheme change and the usage and how they're going
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: to be able to put those things together.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: There's also some talk about maybe a little body.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Sculpting coming into this year, because I'd beusly a guy
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: who has been you know, pretty clearly playing on the
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: gifts of God given gifts of how he's been done.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: It wasn't like a physical specimen at six seven three
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: forty one so and he's still a big guy, but
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: like you could tell, like a little body composition, development
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: of things, and definitely in his postgame presser talking to
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: him in the locker room, just a real sense of maturity,
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: a very strong sense of confidence in like not a
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: lot of surprise, and like he's like, yeah, they expect
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: me to be able to take advantage of opportunities and
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: to be able to drive, you know, to dominate in
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: the in the spots where I get the opportunity, and
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: just very matter of fact, like very like yeah, that's
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: what that's what they expect me to be able to do.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: And I have to be able to take advantage of
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: those spots and seeing him, you know, you always get
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: nervous when you have guys where they're just so big
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: and so nimble at his size, so a lot of
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: times that means footballs come easy to him his whole life,
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: Like he hasn't had to work real hard to be dominant,
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: because when you're that big and can move like very
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: few people on earth can do there it doesn't always
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: align with grinding the details and the hard work and
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: things like that. So now seeing him come into this
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: second year taking that super seriously, working on his body,
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: working on his technique, being like talking about those granular details,
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: and then again it's a handful of snaps, it's a
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: preseason game against a poor opponent, like one on one
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: poor opponent, all those grains assault included. It was so
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: pretty awesome to see that kind of dominance and just
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: wrecking the game, and that you know, don't I don't
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: need him to turn into Christians or anything like that.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: But if we see progression from last year in the
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: sense of more often that we can just instead of
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: he had awesome flashes last year, but there were still
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: moments like he still he still had his moments where
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: he got washed out, he sawed his moments where he
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: over over penetrated.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: He his moments.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: Whether things needed if we now kind of turn that
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: up a little bit, where we clean up a little
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: bit of the off plays and we get more of
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: those dominant moments and those game wrecking chances, even when
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: it is situations like this where it's, hey, you have
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: to be able to take advantage when you have a
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: matchup advantage. And he did, and he didn't just take
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: advantage of it, he dominated it, like though, that's what
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: you need. That's those and that's you know, we'll get
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: to the coaching after we do defense. The excitement of
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: having a guy who can put people in a position
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: to take advantage of those things. You know, it's it's obvious,
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: it's on the nose for everybody watching on the broadcast
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: saw what we saw. But that was fun to see
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: him just kind of take over in those those moments.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was nice seeing him kind of shoot that
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: that first play, they ran zone away from him and
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: he kind of shot the back door on the center.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: But didn't like the way he played it. I don't
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: know if his center played it wrong or how he
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: played it. He was able. He didn't really like have
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: to get upfield. He was able to just bline it
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: straight to the back. And yeah, I mean that that
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: movement ability. I'm excited to see that. I like we
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: were talking about when we were there today, Like, I'm
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: excited to see him excel more in that role. I
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: want to see what it looks like when people run
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: right at him and like, how does that, you know,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: the ability to hold strong at the point of attack.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: How is he improved in that regard? But his I
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: mean his block recognition last year, especially on like gap
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: scheme stuff and down block things we were seeing in
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: the preseason last year. He had several stops against Tampa
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Bay where he recognized, you know, the guard in front
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: of him is pulling, and his eyes immediately are getting
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: to the down block that's come in his way. He's
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: fighting through it, he's making a play and it was encouraging. Yeah,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: to see you know, the start that he had today,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: two pressures, I believe, two tackles for loss, which was
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: nice to see in limited time. I also like that,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: you know, the the left elbow, even though it's taped up,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: embraced up, isn't really impacting him too much. So maybe
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: he just leaves it for aesthetic purposes because it kind
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: of looks pretty sweet. So if he wants to roll
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: with it and just kind of look, you know, kind
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: of like a baller like and do it. Hey, whatever
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: works for you. If it's not broken, don't fix it.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: Lynn Vaal Joseph had to support his arm for like
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: eight years, so there you go.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, whatever, Greg, I think to add to the bit,
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: you should also get one of those when you wear
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: your large human jersys.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, tape it up, brace it up and tape
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: it up.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: I don't actually like wearing football jerseys, Like I'm not
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: an old man. I like jerseys is totally cool for
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: people like to wear it, but like I do feel
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: weird wearing the jersey of another grown man and I'm
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: a grow Like it's just an odd thing for me.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: But as it well, like I own it.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: I got to lean into the bit and actually wear
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: so like the in fact that he did that, like
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: right off the bat, I was like, oh, hey, this
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: is fun.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: That was pretty cool.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah it was. I'm interested to go back and see
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: on the tape and kind of see what what he
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: had I know, on the first. I think, I'm like that.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: I think it was on the sack or whicheverone. When
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: he's that, he looks like Bruce from Finding Nemo bearing
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: down on Bryce Young from behind there. I think he
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: was like, I think he worked his way through. It
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: was almost like him and Ed. I think him and
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: at Oliver kind of ran a stump, but Ed penetrated
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: and it looked like Walker was just kind of there
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: and then worked his way through and fought through. PFF
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: didn't track him with any like he had a zero
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: percent win rate today but had two pressures and they
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: had a twenty eight point six percent pressure rate, so
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: for them it means like he didn't win an individual matchup,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: but he still got the pressure. So I'm interested. And
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: for what it's worth, he had the highest pressure rate
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: of any of the bills today at twenty eight point
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: six percent, which is fun for him in that regard,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm interested kind of see what was he doing.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: He also had that other one where I think it
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: was that he deflected it or led to it in
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: completion at the end of the first drive or maybe
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: the end of the second drive. So it's just good
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: to see him being active and they need any type
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: activity up front as they continue to go forward, especially
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: with all jokes aside, like Fiderian mathis suspended for three
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: games or whatever, and like there's other questionable things happening
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: at knows and we were talking about in the stands today,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: like you know, Okay, is Landon Jackson going to be
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: something for you, as TJ. Sanders is going to be
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: something for you. We know Ed Oliver is a good player,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: but sometimes he disappears. Sometimes he also gets hurt, Like
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: you've got all these kind of potential raps and other
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: worrisome spots. In a way, even though he's only in
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: his second year, Dion Walker might be like the least
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: questionable Bills defensive lineman, if that makes sense, Like could
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: you kind of just know what you're getting? And he's
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: he's still improving, there's still his room to grow, Like
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: I would say Ed Oliver's the best interior guy there.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: But the question is, like it can he stay healthy?
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Like is he gonna disappear at times like and then
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: the other guy?
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: How does it translate to this scheme like it is
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: he gonna fit the way we think? I saw this
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: come up and I wanted to save it to show
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: you because I thought you could bring it up. L
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: Batman agreed with you and posted it like the exact
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: same call, like when the zoom in of Dan Walker
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: smiling as he's doing it. And in the postgame in
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: the locker room interview, they asked him, I think it
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: was Catherain Fitzgerald asked him about the picture and he's like, oh,
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: it's probably I didn't realize I did that, but it's
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: probably because I saw brace young pump fake and I
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: thought he was going to throw it and I was
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: going to miss out on the sack, and when I
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: saw him tuck it down, I knew that he was
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: done for Yeah.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: It was awesome.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: It it was a great quote and he did look
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: like Bruce. So it's just perfect sure friends, perfect spot.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: So count do you also want to gush about Dan
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: Walker or do you?
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Guys?
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: I didn't know if other people played defense today, but
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: you guys appear to talk about them if they did.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: I will give a shout out to two guys that
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: also play on the defensive line, just so that we
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: spread the love a little bit. I'll leave the Dion
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: Walker glaze for you. Oh listen, I love Dan Walker.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: He's one of my favorite Bills too, but you are
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: the expert in that category, so I'll let you have that.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I'll start.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: I'll start by giving a shout out to the guy
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: that lined up next to Dion Walker on the very
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: first snap of the Bill's first game of twenty twenty six,
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: which was Landon Jackson, who we mentioned briefly. Uh to
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: see him there over t J Sanders, I know we
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: talked about that. Maybe depending on the formation or the
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: context of that snap, it made sense. But just to
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: see Landon Jackson as a starter for the Bills was
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: really a good thing to see when you invest a
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: Day two pick in him, and he lost his first
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: season due to injury, and then he was just kind
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: of in limbo last year. So to see him work
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: his way all the way up to a starter after
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: changing his body type to align with this scheme more,
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: I was really glad to see that. And he was
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: crashing into the middle for to stuff some runs and
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: that really helped slow things down for Caroline in those
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: first couple drives. The other guy I want to shout
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: out is a guy that really hasn't made any noise
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: at all in training camp from what I've seen, and
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: then had two sacks on the same drive. Mike Dana
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: I thought when we brought him and he was going
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: to legitimately push Javon Solomon for a spot on the
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: fifty three menters roster and also provide insurance if Michael
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: Hoyt wasn't ready to go. Well, Michael Hoyt was ready
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: to go, and Javon Solomon looked great, and you heard
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: nothing about Dana. And then he has two great pass
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: rush reps on the same drive on first down and
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: on fourth down to sack Kenny Pickett. And I was like, oh, yeah,
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: I remembered we still have Mike Dana. And this is
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: a guy that has started for the Super Bowl winning
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: Kansas City Chiefs and that Steve Spagnola defense. So maybe
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: we were too quick to write off that Mike Dana
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: edition this offseason.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: M OK, yeah, I like that.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: I like that call because again to say, not the
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: exact same as the backup quarterback thing, but like I
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: had kind of been like, all right, he'll just be
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: like a veteran camp body and just be this year's
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: Lyle Collins or whatever. But you know you're coming in
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: having production again, you're talking about a guy who's paid
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: as a starter for a super Bowl caliber team, not
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: that not that far in the past, against a team
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: that doesn't have great tackle depth and whoever their third
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: or fourth option was at that point. So you're supposed
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: to dominate those in that scenario. But he did, and
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: you have given credit like he did. He did what
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: he was supposed to do. And you know, I don't.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know that I've seen anything from Javon Solomon
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: that makes me think.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be unfair, I.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Haven't seen anything that makes me think he's anything more
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: than Sam Franklin is as a safety.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: How dare you speak of Sam Franklin in that regard.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: In the sense that like all anyone ever brings up
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: to me is like, well, yeah, but it's a defensive
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: end that plays four phases.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: A special team is a big cool.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: But like, like, I don't that doesn't like I can
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: have a and a lot of people play.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: People have to play special teams.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: Hey, I special teams.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: He does black a kick every now and then, So
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: I don't like it's fine, Like I'm not it's a bonus.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: That's a proper phrasing. It's a bonus when you have
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: a roster caliber player who can also contribute on special teams.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: So like the fact that Mikoel Hardman can be a
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: functional wide receiver and not like hurt actively hurt you
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: if he has to come in and play snaps is cool,
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: Like that is a benefit. We've had guys in the
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: past who were not functional position players, who were only
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: on the rest for special teams. You never wanted them
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: to play in those nes to the point where we
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: brought up practice squad guys to play instead of him
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: when you need to scrimmage snaps. So I'm cool with
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: that for situations like that. Like again, Hardman Dante Pettis
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: are a perfect example where that's a functional roster spot
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: where they can come in and play functional snaps. I
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: don't know that we could have Javon Solomon play to
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: this point. I haven't seen evidence that he's ready to
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: play scrimmage snaps at defensive end in the NFL. And
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: Mike Dana can and has and is also not as
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: old as people think that he is, so I care
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: way more about like, oh, okay, well, wouldn't that mean
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: someone else, including maybe Dana, has to play some special
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: team snaps. Yes, but if if there is a higher
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: likelihood that, hey, if we need snaps from one of
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: our fifth defensive events or fifth outside linebackers, our fifth edgeresser,
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: and they determine that, hey, we will get more contribution
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: if that guy has to be Mike Dana than if
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: that guy is Javon Solomon, well then he should get
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: the roster spot, and they'll figure like, hey, that's why
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: we hire special teams coordinators. Here's the humans you have
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: to work with. Build me for units that you can
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: out of these guys like he Javon Solomon is not,
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: is not Sam Franklin. Where Sam Franklin is a contributor enough,
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: like such a high level contributor on special teams that
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: that drives a roster decision. Javon Solomon doesn't contribute at
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: that level on special teams that it should drive the decision. Now, again,
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: if they're equal, it's the tiebreaker and he should make
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: the roster over him. But if they're not equal and
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: it's only a minor difference, but Mike dan is a
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: better defensive end, well then he should make the roster
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: and we'll figure the rest out later.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a fair point. I'm interested to
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: see what you know, especially with Hoyt being where he
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: is fingers crossed, no jinks. You've got Rousseau, Chubb and Hoyt.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: And then I really feel like Edge four through six
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: is like the Joker with the pool cue and just
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: throwing it in and like who wants to make the team?
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Like I am. It could be Solomon, it could be Dana.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I want to see what he did on tape today.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: But I think like the based off of Camp and
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: the Blue and Red, Andre Jones has probably been like
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: the best edge player that isn't one of the top three.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Like if I had to give it to somebody, I
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: would give it to Andre Jones off of Camp and
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: the Blue and Red. He was a guy who I
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: kept again not watching for anybody in particular, but they
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: like like you would just see like there goes fifty nine.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like, who's fifty nine Again, I'm like, oh, it's
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: andre Jones. And then like the next day fifty nine
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: would do something again, I'm like who's fifty nine? Like
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: it's Andre Jones. And he had a couple of real
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: nice plays in the Blue and Red. Yeah, Junior Train I.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: Was about to bring him up just to a p
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: because he brought up last week that we were talking
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: about the edge rum and I didn't mention Andre Jones.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: For people to yell at you, Anthony Pernatt mentioning TJ.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: Parker when you skipped from the top three. The other
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: four got that.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Well for who I think has performed great, and also
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: too not that I don't want to pour cold water
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: like TJ. Parker's sacked today. It was a tight end
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: that was blocking him, and the tight end held him
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: up with the line and then Parker pushed him through
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: because the quarterback had the ball for like three and
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: a half four seconds. Like it was good that he
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: did that, But I didn't see that as like well,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: and again this is for me. It's in totality of
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: what everything that's happened at camp in the Blue and
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Red where I feel like Jones has done stuff. But yeah,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I get he's not the first pick from this year's class,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: so that's probably not a favorable thing.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but again I don't I'm not concerned about TJ.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Parker.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: There's been other good flashes that I've heard, other good
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: comments about it. He did have a sack and another
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: tackle for a loss in another pressure like there were
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: other insider another quarterback hit. So we'll see, buddy, don't
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know that he flashed a ton for me
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: outside of the sack itself to be able to do that.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: I'll be interested to see what else was was out
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: there to be able to watch. Agree, So maybe in
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: the back end anything that this stood out to you positively, Anthony,
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: guys that flashed for you. And again this is again
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: like offensive line, really hard to do without seeing it
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: because watching guys in coverage, I can. I can assume
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: that the fact that the defense you know, went three
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: and out three straight and should have been four straight
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: if not for a Geno stone place pace massive start
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: the Geno Stone love early that obviously the coverage had
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: to be pretty good because Bryce Young didn't have anywhere to.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Go with the ball.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna assume that it was good. But I
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: don't know, you know, there wasn't a ton there. Well
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: timed Jalen Kilgore blitz that was encouraging, obviously, can I Walker,
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: you know, making a gutsy uh you know, jumping route
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: for an interception and the team going crazy for him
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: knowing undrafted free agent guy who I think didn't practic
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: this this week and like had to kind of gut
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: out some conditioning to be able to get in the
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: game just in case the team needed bodies in that spot.
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: And you could see the team reacting to that. Those
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: were all really really cool. I love that, but it
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: was hard. I don't know exactly what else may have
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: stood out there without being able to watch the other piece.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough without being able to see foot tape perspective,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: but it was nice. With our seats you could see
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: the covered shells in a lot of ways. Yeah, I
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: like the good place from CANi Walker. You know, that
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: interception was great. He also got beat over the top
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: on that one. Literally as we were talking about him
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: and talking about his college tape, got beat up the
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: sideline a little bit, which.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Would have been a touchdown.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's gonna happen. Like, he doesn't have the
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: best like foot speed or twitch or long speed, but
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I mean he's big, he's strong, he's physical, he's long like,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: and he wants to beat you up. So let him
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: put him on the line, let him press get his
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: hands on guys. He's got good eyes and good instincts
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: as there's some athleticalnotations there. Kill gor Yeah, that Blitz
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: was nice. There was a mistackle that I didn't like
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: from kill Gore, but that you know, I think kind
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: of just for as much of a you know, bigger body,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: like big Nickel type candidate who is gonna play true safety.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Now that happens to him from time to time, Like
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: he hits, but he's not like a thumper necessarily where
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: he's going through dudes, I think he plays them more towards,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: more towards the athleticism that he possesses than he does
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: like the size and frame that he necessarily possesses. From
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: a physicality standpoint, I I am not gonna speak too
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: much on because I know everybody already does. Like I'm
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: just Gino Stone and Jamar Hamlin are fine his backups.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: It is definitely like not fun though, when you come
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: out of a game and like you're starting, even if
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: it's preseason, but you're starting. Safeties are like oh yeah,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Stone into Marrow Hamlin. Although they did look sick with
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: like the pops of red underneath the all white jerseys,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: I thought aesthetically they looked very good today and I
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: was very I agree.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: I actually think Genostone looks cool as a football fair.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: I wish he was good, but he looks cool as
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: a football player.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he does, like he he You know, the aesthetic
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: was rocking, Damar was rocking a similar aesthetic. It's funny
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: that they're both like doing the same thing, and I
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: feel like it's like, all, what are the odds you're
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: both doing that. I'm like that the aesthetics aren't good
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: enough to win the fan base back over to you.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: I want to see Kilgary to get ready quickly, or I.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Like, Jalen, you you need to wear more red. You
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: need pops of red to like. Don't let them take
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: this from you.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: You can't let them out aesthetic.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: You Yeah, you can't get out aesthetic already.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: You're the young hipnack. You're supposed to know what this
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: looks like.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Come on, step upthetics, Jalen, what do you do it?
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: Jayleen? Kilguar shows up with the arm brace the next day.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, and the pops are red, so he's
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: rocking brace.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: It used to be like the little thin arm bands,
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: like multiple little thin armbands at each like muscle spot.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love those. Somebody did that once
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: and they got I think they got fined in the
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: NFL for it at all. They know, fun leagues. I'm
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: interested to see what you know. Igbin Nosen got a
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: good chunk of snaps. I want to see how he looked.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: But just immediate flashes. It was you know, can I
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: walk or pop? But also you know, some worrisome stuff.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: And then safety group is kind of underwhelming from a
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: true backup like safety three, Safety four, Like we were
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: talking I this is like the seventeenth time I've said
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: this in this episode, like we were talking about today
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: when we were at the game. You know, Gino Stone
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: into mor Hamlin are fine. You know if there your
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: safety three and safety four, they'ren't starting regularly for you.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: But it is you know, if you're in the preseason,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: it is kind of like, oh like man, I just
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: kind of watch back there.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: But it is what it is.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: I will say the I didn't see multiple negative flashes,
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: but you can't have elms or ram into a tight
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: end and third and nineteen when the ball's in the air.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: So for a guy who I think of as like
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: a smart player, like you got to have more situational
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: awareness there. I don't think you had a bad game.
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: I'm not like, oh, all of a sudden concerned or
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: off that train, but like, hey, gotta have a little
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: more heads up in that moment than like it's third nineteen.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: You gotta trust, like, get your arms up, don't ram
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: into the tight end running up the seam out of
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: all that he wasn't gonna catch either way, but like,
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: don't give the ref the chance to.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Throw that flag.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: I watched a couple other snaps specifically watching him. Saw
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: a nice handoff on one play where he carried a
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: guy across his own handed off to the outside third
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: really well and then cut back, you know and got
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: himself ready, So like seemed to be pretty you know,
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: spatially aware and in that cause I don't think anyone
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: has any concerns about him coming downhill, you know, in
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: tackling in run defense. But like the only reason I
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: already know Dorian Williams could do that too. I hoping
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: one of them can cover, and one of them could
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: be there and understand where they're supposed to be in space,
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: so that I'm gonna when I rewatch, I'm gonna watch
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: that and be able to see how he looks in
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: Bridge and gonna be curious to that, how about.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: You, Kim.
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So I'm gonna piggyback off the linebacker discussion. That
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: position group has been my favorite to monitor this offseason
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: because there's so many unknowns, there's so many question marks,
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: and I think it's time we have a conversation about,
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: if it's not a parent already, how the team views
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: Joe Andresen compared to some of the other linebackers on
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: this roster. After free agency ended, he was still the
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: second most experienced player in that room, behind Trow Bernard,
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: and then they draft Caleber elms or Or. Behind Bernard
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: and Dorian Williams, they draft Caleb elms Or and Kanty
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: Jenkins seems to leapfrog him after being a UDFA who
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: spent most of the year on the practice squads.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Is inevitable.
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: Oh, I'm full Kantay Jenkins.
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I don't think I've seen a single report
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: this summer. And this continued today in the preseason game
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: of Andresen getting a rep ahead of elms Or or Jenkins.
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: And I mean he's out there with Otis Reese like
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: fighting for a practice squad spot. Probably and so I
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: don't mean to upset the people of Lancaster, and I
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: know he's the hometown hero there. I mean no disrespect
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: when I say this, but I think we need to
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: be honest about where Joe and Riesen sits on this
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: depth chart. I know the unofficial depth chart that came
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: out had him listed on the second team with k EO.
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: But if you're use the evidence that the coaching staff
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: is showing you he is the fifth linebacker for a
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: scheme that typically carries four linebackers, if you.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Use your eyes, it is telling you that he is
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: not on the second.
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: Team correct well, and it's I mean, it's no different
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: than my comments on Jebon Solomon. They're no different than
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: you know, there are guys that you're going to have
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: to Yes, there are a few guys who can make
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: this roster purely from a special team's ability. I don't
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: know that he's won. I think that's something where hey
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: or that he's not discernibly better. Kanton Jenkins can do
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: does what you do on teams as well, So that's
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: who you have to beat out here that you're you're
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: competing against those guys. So we'll see where that goes.
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I think that's that's become fairly clear here.
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: Before we close things out here, maybe let's talk a
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: little bit about the coaching UH staff. Some interesting things there.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: I thought that for anyone who didn't hear the press
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: conference one, I've been not critical, but I've kind of
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: helped give some context to people that, hey, Joe Brady
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: is not a polished professional speaker, and that I think
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: the way the players react to him, and how you
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: hear other really smart football people talk about him, how
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: Sean Payton talks about him, how like other people that
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: I really respect. Davis Webb has made really positive comments
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: abou him, all the people around LSU. You hear people
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: talk about him and his acumen in his football IQ.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: I trust the fact that that translates. I think it
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: translates in a locker room and in a like training
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: room Stampa practice, you know, uh, you know, game prep room,
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: where he can be more off the cuff and in
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: all sincerity. I think it's where it's okay for him
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: to say the F word every like third word, because
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's good at filtering that very well.
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: Today in his postgame press conference was the first time
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: where I was like, oh, that sounds like an NFL
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: head coach, and it was like the first time that
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I think he's kind of coming
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: into his own a little bit, and that I felt
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: a bit more confident of a guy stepping in. And
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: he brought up here, so start this comment came up here.
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: He mentioned here that they were waiting and that he
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: was looking for situations during the game to work on
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: how the communication would work, and that hey, I waited
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: all game long because I wanted to be able to
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: go through a challenge to see how the communication would
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: go from the group to me with the with the
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: head coach. And it got to the point where, hey,
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: it's a potential fumble. It's now three minutes and thirty
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: eight seconds left in the game. You can't challenge after
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: the two minute drill. He had both challenges in his pocket,
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: like he wanted to see how the mechanism would work,
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: and you're going to take a time out before the
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: fourth and one play. Anyways, it is a perfectly good
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: scenario to test that out, to be able to go
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: through there in a preseason game. Otherwise you throw them
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: away because it's again, you know the two minute warning.
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: There's a minute thirty eight seconds. You were going to
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: have two more things to go through there. So he said,
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: you know, hey, I was just looking for a scenario
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: where I could plausibly you're not going to just literally
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: throw it on a random play. But there's the first
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: time that something came in that he had the chance
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: to be able to see how the mechanism was going
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: to work and how the communication went. So for anyone
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: who didn't listen to the postgame press conference going through
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: there just was an interesting nugget that I would have thought, like, oh,
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: he must have had a bad angle. Oh he must
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: not have gotten good information. He's like, no, he knew
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: that it wasn't going to be overturned. It just was, hey,
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: I'm going to take a time out. Anyways, I'm about
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: to lose the two challenges in a minute thirty eight seconds,
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: and I want to see how this works, and I
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: want to go through the communication with my guys and
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: go through the steps of how it was doing. So,
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: you know, again, just some context to the idea that
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: he wasn't all of a sudden just bad at throwing
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: challenges there.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: But I like that.
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: I like that a lot of our conversation was about
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: the excitement of the guy on the other side of
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: the ball more than that, Brady.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: That's fair. Yeah, it's a cool debut potentially for Jim Leonard,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: just you know, the odd front stuff, some of the
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: coverage things we saw on the back end. We'll see,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: you know what the tape show is really from. I
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: don't think they're going to show their hand too much,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: but we already saw again the Colin noted it right
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: off the bat, and I think I I think I
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: posted something about it when it happened to on that
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: first drive. Yeah, we're starting out with you know, odd front,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: tight front stuff, and then on third down we're playing
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: straight up man coverage across the board and like, man,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: just like right there there was just like a nice
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: punch in the face if you needed of. Like there's
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: a new defensive coordinator and there's new philosophy and identity
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: uh to the defense. And yeah, I'm excited to see
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: what we continue to get week in and week out
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: in the preseason with him. Again, I don't think it's
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: gonna be anything revelatory. I think they're going to kind
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: of keep it close to the vest, but a good
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: start for you know, what looks like probably hands down
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: the best defense in NFL history. I don't really think
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: there's any way to get.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Around second behind eighty five Bears.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, yeah, not to overreact, but every defense in
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: NFL history pales in comparison to the twenty twenty six
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: preseason Buffalo Bills defense thus far. And I'm excited for
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: the future of.
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: Well, even the fact he couldn't help himself like some
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: of those delayed blitzes that were perfectly timed, or he
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: knew what was what was coming, just like a couple
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: of those, you know, and they turned into I don't
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: think either a results in sex, but both Bernard and
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: Kilgore batty. Yeah, they both on the third down or
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: fourth where they came untouched because it was just perfect
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: timing him knowing what was coming there.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: And like, hey, Jim, keep a couple of those in
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: the back pocket. It's preseason.
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: Let's not give give a too much away here, but
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: you know, just a very encouraging start for somebody who
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: we're excited about.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: And I will say.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Comment, I saw it an immediately tongue.
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: I will give just a touch of cold water here.
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: If there's any history to the how the cycle of
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: head coaching things work. It's not unforeseen that someone in
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: their first year has that rocket chance. But I'll give
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: the same idea the Grant Udinsky and Nate shieldhouses of
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: this year. It is very very rare, even for incredibly
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: well thought of coaches to get their first head coaching job.
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: You know, you got to remember Clint Kubiak, Joe Brady,
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: guys like that. We're getting head coaching interviews last year
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: and Joe Brady two years ago to go through there.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: So it is very to this point, Jim Leonard has
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: never interviewed for a head coach and it's the first
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: time coordinator in the NFL. So could he make such
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: a difference that we skyrocket and go through you know,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: that kind of thing that quickly. Of course, it's possible,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: and it could be that amazing and we just benefit
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: from it.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: But it is that kind of thing.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: That, you know, it's far more likely that we probably
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: get a two year window and then it happens he
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: probably does get head coach.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: And interviews this year and we probably lose in the
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: end of next year.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Ever, he's stay forever and just stay with us and
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: it's going to be great, and he's not going to
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: go anywhere. I don't know. I don't know why we're
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: even trying to put in the universe. He's not going
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: to go anywhere.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: Why.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: No, he's gonna stay and we're all gonna be happy
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: and we're all gonna sing songs together and dance around
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: the campfire as he's here for years and years to come.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: And I feel like you're ironically calling back to our
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: conversation about obsession earlier.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Oh that's funny, Yeah, I kind of am. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: that's fair.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: Count anything else to sit out to you, from coaching scheme,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: anything else who we didn't touch on.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So this is something I didn't even really notice
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: or recognize until Cooked Books game in the comments just
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: brought this up. And I'm not saying I criticized Joe
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: Brady for this, because I understand why he didn't. But
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: we never saw a punting situation in this game. We
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: never got to see Tommy Doman and so obviously not
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: that I would expect them to punt at first and
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: ten with three seconds left, But if he did that,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't have been upset. I wouldn't have been mad
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: just to get the punting unit out there.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: I won't lie.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: I would have had more respect for him of like
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: fitting in. But so so, I'll give you a legitimate reason.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: He didn't Dave Kanalis at that point intentionally kick the
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: ball out of bounds when they kicked to us, and
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: did not try to do an outside's kick, did not
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: try to do anything in a sense of like, hey,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: we've had a good day, let's not get anybody else
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: hurt in a goofy weird thing.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: It isn't necessary.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: And to then have him do that and you come
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: out there and go like, oh, I actually want to
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: see my guys get a rep in punting, get your kids,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: your squad out there, we're gonna run this back.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: Would not have been appropriate to do in that Actually
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: I need to see.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: So to the counter to that, if because technically they
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: had scored and the game wasn't officially over and blah
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: blah blah, if Canalis had have done a on site's kick,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: I one hundred percent would have wanted to see that.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: I would have wanted them to run the clock down
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: to like three seconds, take a time out, and then
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: punt just to be able to see the thing go.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: So he did the appropriate respectful thing in the moment.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: But I kind of wish Canalis woud have tried to
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: keep going so that we could have done that just
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: for the fun money.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 6: Why does our new coach have to be such a
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: stand up guy?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, look QuickBooks, he brings up a good point.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: You don't think the Panthers would want to see their
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: punt returner. See, it's really great.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: I was doing it.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: To see what your part return of looks like.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: I was doing it.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: I just want to give you the reps, man, I
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: just just want to give you the chance. All right,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: Any final things here for the people before we let
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: them go enjoy the evening.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: No, I think there were some positive things to take
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: away as we talked about here, and some things that
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: maybe the table will shed some light on. And either way,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: first game, the preseason, stay healthy, get healthy, We'll see
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: what happens in week two, see what happens in week three,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: and then we'll come out swinging in week one against
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: For me personally, my AFC favorite to represent the AFC year,
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people thinking that yeah they're if they're off,
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  Speaker 1: If the Texans offense can just be halfway decent with
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  Speaker 1: and I think they can. With what their defense is
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  Speaker 1: going to be, they're gonna be a problem. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they've got a good test in week one, get out
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  Speaker 1: of the preseason healthy. But I do think there are
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  Speaker 1: you know, and this is the preseason essentially a meme
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  Speaker 1: of itself at this point, with people trying to you know,
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  Speaker 1: extra appollate too much and build on too much. But
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  Speaker 1: I do think they were sincerely encouraging things schematically, some
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  Speaker 1: bread crumbs to pick up if you know, you're looking
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  Speaker 1: in the right spot. And then a couple of good
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  Speaker 1: individual player performances. So that's just off a broadcast, and
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  Speaker 1: not even broadcast, that's of us seeing it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in person, not being able to like rewind a bunch.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm thinking the table shine a more positive light
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  Speaker 1: on some things and give us some good answers. So
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  Speaker 1: I think a good start to the you know, Brady
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  Speaker 1: Leonard regime here in Buffalo.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
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  Speaker 4: So tonight I am actually gonna finish things out by
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  Speaker 4: going to watch the D twenty three Horizons panel for here,
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  Speaker 4: but I have a substitute. It's my daughter's thirteenth birthday
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  Speaker 4: and she's going to help close us out.
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  Speaker 1: She gets in and we just start bulling.
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  Speaker 2: Do it. Thank you for watching the cover on Post
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  Speaker 2: Game Show with Anthony Purhasca, Calm Richie and Greg Toms
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  Speaker 2: that we are out.