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Underdog vs DraftKings Best Ball Strategy + ADP Risers & Late-Round RB Sleepers · Fantasy NFL Today

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  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, best ballers.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back into another Thursday edition of fantasy NFL today in the room.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm your host Anthony Quaranta.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm joined by Brian shade.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: His projection model over at sportsethos.com.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And now Brian, how's it going?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: How you doing?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome.
• 0:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the Thursday show.
• 0:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: doing well.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm I'm a new ish to best ball.
• 0:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got like ten drafts in me.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm excited to kind of hop in and learn from you and also see if I have any random insights that might be helpful to you.
• 0:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I feel like so you're new to best.
• 0:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I feel like sometimes that's that's a good thing, right?
• 0:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know that mean with like the bell curve where it's like
• 0:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: the seemingly like stupid take and then you get to the top of like the peak of the bell curve and it's like smart take.
• 1:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then you get to the other side of the bell curve and it's like the stupid take now sounds smart.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like there's there's definitely some of that when it comes to beginners and in anything.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm sure that you will definitely have some some points to take away.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I know that you we were kind of talking pretty show and you've drafted more so on draft Kings and underdog.
• 1:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I do all of my drafts in underdog, so I'm curious kind of what's the biggest difference or one of the biggest differences that you kind of see from each platform?
• 1:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I'd say the start, it was for me drafting the disease because already had like the normal bedding balance.
• 1:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's just easier to get it there to just kind of try it out, take a few promos, say the biggest differences I saw.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the main one is it's full PPR.
• 1:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They're running backs like Jalen Warren who I'm just as hill I'd loved in late rounds or just like a tie Johnson also like those guys that are the third downbacks that if you go not as heavy running back you can kind of those are guys that I look to get a bit more also you have twenty roster spots versus the eighteen and underdog so I think that
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It kind of allows you to be a little bit more flexible with your stacks and when you when you go for and you don't have to worry about, oh, I really want this stack in the middle rounds, but I'm worried I'm not going to be able to get enough running back to fill out the roster.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So it makes it a little easier doing that.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, kind of allows you to tack on an extra flyer to to help you feel better about a maybe a room you you didn't kind of draft so much in the beginning.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So do you underdog is pretty wide receiver heavy.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm curious with the full PPR and so the half PPR like is it the wide receivers go like even heavier or do you notice that some of the paths catching running back sneak up there a little bit more like I know you mentioned Jalen Warren.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't notice the big difference in like wide receiver.
• 3:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, most of my, I'm mostly just like season long.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So obviously I'm noticing way more wide receivers are going in basketball in general.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I would say,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm surprised someone like a Brock Bowers didn't go even higher just because full PPR you get that safety of a tight end like he's almost like a low and wide receiver one if you really think about it with all the volume he gets.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm surprised like someone like him didn't go higher.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I did notice quarterbacks.
• 3:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's just
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  [SPEAKER_01]: People like me who maybe are just wanted to kind of get into basketball and it's easy because our balances are in the same app that like you might have a few more newbies versus underdog where it's pretty specific.
• 3:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is best ball.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of feel like you have a bit more of that in draft Kings and you do in underdog.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's all interesting.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So what?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: What's your favorite strategy that you've kind of identified as someone who's just kind of getting into drafting, getting into basketball?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: What are some strategies you've identified that?
• 4:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: You released, you'll good about your team after you're done drafting them.
• 4:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's, I try to stick to the same kind of strategies that you season long, but maybe cater it like obviously stackings way more important.
• 4:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: But like, if I can stack on offenses, I actually think will be good.
• 4:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna try to do that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Or if I can stack on offenses, where I think their defense is just absolutely terrible.
• 4:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: So even if they suck, they still have to throw it.
• 4:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Think of the Browns last year.
• 4:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, they were terrible, but they still threw it all the time.
• 4:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you had random, setric, tillman, Jerry, Judy games.
• 4:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I tried to kind of do that.
• 4:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I ended up with a lot of, I did end up with a lot more like late round, young quarterback stacks.
• 4:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: where it's like Bryceon with somebody.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I got a bunch of Tiger Conquo camward stacks.
• 5:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just, I found those really easy to get.
• 5:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And to me, that feels like a pretty high upside, given where I'm getting them.
• 5:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have the most faith in camward, but either rookie QB you never know, reports are good, ish, so.
• 5:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: So do you lean then more towards the kind of late round quarterback tight ends and go running back receiver heavy?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you ever take any elite quarterbacks or elite tight ends and build that way?
• 5:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I definitely started out getting way more elite rushing quarterbacks because they fell.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they just fell further than I was used to compared to regular season long.
• 5:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I first three drafts I ended up with a Josh Allen, a Jalen Hertz and a Jane Daniels.
• 5:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: So then like I was pretty happy about all that because they're like, okay, to me it felt kind of pretty easy to stack with them.
• 6:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know what I'm getting.
• 6:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I felt good about those, but I also know like, I don't know with the running quarterbacks.
• 6:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: The benefit of them is kind of the floor, which in basketball you're looking more for ceiling, so maybe maybe I'm wrong for doing that.
• 6:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Only time will tell, but I do think that we have.
• 6:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do think the running quarterbacks aren't as shouldn't be as valued as all the passing, because if you can kind of take a shot going to approach it three pocket passers, I think it works better.
• 6:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that's a bit of a contrarian take, right?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Because everybody loves the Russian quarterback.
• 6:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, they give you the floor.
• 6:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: They also kind of give you that ceiling, right?
• 6:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, we look at Lamar Jackson.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You're a forty one type sounds like you're had over nine hundred rushing yards on top of it, right?
• 6:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like you saying that three pocket passers is your preference is is really contrarian, which can be great and basketball, because you're probably going to have some pretty unique builds in that way, right?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So who were some of your favorite pocket passers then for for best ball?
• 7:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, can't I have like rank.
• 7:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, McCarthy.
• 7:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're a big McCarthy fan.
• 7:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming you you like the Kevin O'Connell offense, then he'd think he's.
• 7:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's more O'Connell than it is McCarthy.
• 7:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 7:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like my data model had him way too.
• 7:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just because I use kind of pre, I use like the all sense from previous seasons to kind of adjust that.
• 7:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: So hey, Joe, then he just ends up looking way too good.
• 7:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I tried to kind of tamper him down, but he's someone I like a lot.
• 7:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like waiting for Jerry golf to fall a little bit further, because I feel like people are definitely down on him, but the encambles still in offensive mind.
• 7:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like Jerry golf this year, but like
• 7:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that kind of depends in the room here and some people go way too high.
• 7:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I either feel like he goes way too high or I'm like, wow, this feels like a steal with him.
• 8:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's another guy I've been pretty high on.
• 8:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Bryce Young, he's somebody who I just feel like could.
• 8:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is kind of now or nothing form or now or ever.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And he kind of has a little bit of that rushing upside to, I think, built in.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He can scamper around a bit.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Probably not as much as, obviously, you know, like, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Even Jalen Hertz, who doesn't run, other than making them the Toshkosh tremendously often, years dealers, or equals fans, and maybe I'm just wrong there.
• 8:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: But probably strong definitely does have a little rushing floor as well.
• 8:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I agree with you.
• 8:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that the panthers are a really good team to buy a low one, and especially price young, because it's largely because I think of Canales, the head coach, and the thing is that he, I mean, look what he did for Gino Smith and Seattle, look what he did for take
• 8:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Baker may field in Tampa.
• 8:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know John and I talked a bit about this during the last podcast, but the Panthers are a good one.
• 9:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I really like that you brought up Bryce Young.
• 9:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you kind of mentioned your model a little bit.
• 9:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you do you think that your model is helpful for basketball?
• 9:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like other, are there any kind of said maybe making some slight adjustments for MacArthur you kind of just mentioned?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Are there any adjustments that you do need to make when you are doing it for basketball?
• 9:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like what does that, how does that work?
• 9:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think the model, a lot of it is based on floor.
• 9:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's more like, all right, where is my, like, where target's telling your rush share going?
• 9:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if I don't, like, I don't, like, I don't Cleveland or to Cleveland quarterback situation.
• 9:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody knows who's gonna start.
• 9:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: So every quarterback, like, I have three quarterbacks taking a third of the steps.
• 9:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, yeah, that's clearly, it could happen, but probably not.
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and it's like when you project that out, it's like, all right, now they're all terrible.
• 10:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe one of them will have a week or two, so that's kind of hard to tell.
• 10:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then, like, everyone's so high on Musgrave, I think.
• 10:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Packers, tight ends?
• 10:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'll talk a craft.
• 10:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Talk a craft.
• 10:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sorry, yeah, a craft.
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: But like, they also have Musgrave at tight end, who's been hurt.
• 10:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then they have like five above average, at least wider severs.
• 10:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, who's getting the ball?
• 10:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe one of them breaks out, I don't know, like, I would've been way happier if Technic Millen went there and said a Matthew Golden just because Golden's more of like the Deshawn Jackson rule, where it's not, I mean, I guess that's a better baseball guy to go after, but he's not like a very consistent player.
• 10:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: He'll have three for ninety and then three for ninety in a touchdown or like two for twenty in nothing else.
• 10:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and those are the players I like for Bestball personally.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, does you, I mean, you get the good weeks and you ate the bad weeks.
• 11:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I could talk about Xavier worthy in that form.
• 11:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, pretty much all day for Bestball.
• 11:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's he's just got that spike.
• 11:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, just that spike week potential and man.
• 11:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I just don't, his game just doesn't lend well to me to, to redraft and for like, managed leagues because you just never know when he's going to get that long catch.
• 11:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yeah, he came on in the playoffs.
• 11:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, he absolutely did.
• 11:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then I know the Super Bowl you were probably pretty excited throughout it as an Eagles fan, but I mean, I know a lot of Garber's time he ended up with a crazy style.
• 11:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that that is kind of fueling my hype as well this season too.
• 11:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: So why don't we go ahead and
• 11:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Try to jump in.
• 11:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to do a best well-meaning draft today.
• 11:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Brian is going to try to get in as well.
• 11:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: So Brian, let me know when you've got this pulled up and we'll kind of do a little countdown and try to get in the same draft together.
• 12:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Anyone else that's watching wants to pull it up?
• 12:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Feel free to follow the countdown and maybe see if we can all get in the room together.
• 12:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got it up.
• 12:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Are you ready then?
• 12:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 12:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll click it in five, four, three, two, one.
• 12:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: and firm.
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And let's see, all right, we're going to be in the same room because we're waiting on six.
• 12:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I am at least, but I'm on way non six as well.
• 12:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, we're going to be in the same room then.
• 12:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to make it a little bigger.
• 12:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let me know, Brian, can you see that better on the screen there?
• 12:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: than you could before.
• 12:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have a problem.
• 12:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes I like to have a zoomed out so I can see more, but I realize on stream, like that's not always great, right?
• 12:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because then the people, people that are watching on YouTube can't.
• 12:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can't pretend.
• 12:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, I can see it fine.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have it a bit zoomed out.
• 12:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was stuck to see the whole screen and everything, but yeah.
• 12:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay, good.
• 13:01
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• 13:04
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• 13:07
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• 13:10
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• 13:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we are just waiting now for about forty five seconds.
• 13:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got the second pick, Brian.
• 13:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know, or your B shade five, I would imagine.
• 13:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I am.
• 13:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to.
• 13:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm likely to just go be John here.
• 13:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's safe and see what happens kind of anchor running back, go from there.
• 13:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: What are you thinking is, well, I need to need to talk about specific players, although obviously I'm probably not going to take the guy you're thinking about way down there, but what are your thoughts kind of as we approach the start of the draft?
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I ended up with this a lot like seven eight nine were like my most common picks for a draft games I was in.
• 14:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I definitely kind of picked a good assortment.
• 14:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm really high on Nico, but that feels a little early, but who knows.
• 14:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hold on, I got to go Jamar Chase, because St.
• 14:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Cole and Barkley went first.
• 14:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll just take the gift of Jamar Chase at one or two.
• 14:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry to me, Nikka, you all thought that was just weird.
• 14:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah.
• 14:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you're a fan of Nico Collins, you and John are on the Nico Collins train.
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: So who else are you thinking about here at one o eight?
• 14:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: A CD lamb goes off the board at one o three.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I like Christian McAfrey.
• 14:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're going best ball.
• 14:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Who's got a higher ceiling than McAfrey?
• 14:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're not wrong.
• 14:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've kind of faded McAir free a little bit worried about the age, the injury, the recent injury history, Blassey Blah, seeing all of his backups go down though, has me like, a little nervous about that fate.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to lie.
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they're receivers, like, yeah, I mean, we'll see if he falls previously.
• 15:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I ended up with like a lot of ominer on this range.
• 15:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how to get one.
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's also like just so safe to me.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 15:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to get the volume.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be a wider receiver one way more weeks than not.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to draw a great pick too.
• 15:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's see who goes here at.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Did it freeze for you?
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nope.
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: There it is.
• 15:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I did a little.
• 15:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: A little bit.
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Christian McCaffrey goes on one of seven right before you.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I knew who I'd pick here.
• 15:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: but you are on the clock at one o'clock.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Five seconds.
• 15:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I feel it, I'm in raw.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm in raw, okay.
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like that pick.
• 15:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Neighbors for me there would have been kind of the smash play, but I'm in raw's also this is an incredible player and someone that you can really anchor your team with and feel safe about and feel really, really good about it.
• 16:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's kind of my, I used to be super high on Puka, the Stafford News is scary.
• 16:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a hundred percent.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't mix in a ton of pooook because I normally, anything after when I was seven, I'm really trying to get a lot of milk neighbors.
• 16:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe Homer is a giant fan, but yeah, the map staff for news is really kind of a bummer as Nico Collins actually goes off at one out of twelve and neighbors at two a one.
• 16:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a great combination, I think.
• 16:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Pooca, yeah, that's a lot of all you.
• 16:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: It sure is, especially if the Maddie staff or news kind of turns out to be nothing, like, that start King Jiggly, like that, congratulations.
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: How do we come here?
• 16:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I really like the Nico Thomas one, too.
• 16:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Brian Thomas is another one.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's kind of falling out of the first run as the summer's gone on.
• 17:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: All the Travis Hunter hype.
• 17:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I saw you're on the clock here.
• 17:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
• 17:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 17:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like that.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's like your prime just if I want to go here or be if it falls that way, I feel like you just they're going to run the ball every time I try to bed against him.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: It never works.
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I also don't have him a lot.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I like this.
• 17:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, good to be different, right?
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Brock Bowers goes eighteen.
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, never bed against their kind of ease.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's just different.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's gonna end up being like Tom Brady, where everyone thinks he's gonna play too long and he'll retire before he gets to that point though.
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and like it being half BPR versus the full I don't it's a bit more I don't mind you as much.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a bit more palatable as far as you know Derek Henry's not gonna touch many passes.
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Who's on your mind here?
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: See, this is always tough.
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I really don't like the one to turn.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm probably just going to go Josh Jacobs to be honest.
• 18:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Gotta get a stud running back because you get a lot of volume.
• 18:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I try not to double up on bangles here because I just don't want to feel like I'm hampered by having to take Joe Burrow at forty eight forty nine, which if that's the way you want to build, I think that's probably worth it.
• 18:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I also just don't want to play the game and chicken like will he fall to seventy two seventy three because especially in a BBM like I'd rather just build a team That I know like I is going to be good to post to having to wait and so training brides interesting I might just Reach up here and go think I'm going to do that.
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just going to reach and kind of take Josh down and see where that takes me
• 18:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Are you a big week, Seventeen version?
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I see the value in it.
• 19:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think I can be if the chips are falling that way in a draft, I will use that as a tiebreaker, a hundred percent.
• 19:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I also recognize that it is so hard to get to week, Seventeen, that you got to get there for it to even matter.
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I will have your mind set.
• 19:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right, I will say that.
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: So in the two years, I've been this is my theory of playing basketball in the two years, I've been playing it.
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've had a total of four weeks, seventeen teams.
• 19:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the two that won big money did happen to have the week, seventeen correlations.
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: So maybe like that's kind of on the back of my mind where I like
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll kind of pay attention to it, but I don't prioritize it necessarily because like I said, it's just so hard to get there in these contests with like hundreds of thousands of people on it.
• 19:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and this is one kid I didn't expect to do.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I am a big fan of I went really far
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I went with Lamar because I went really far and told my season long leagues of, I'm guaranteed every rushing touchdown on that team, basically.
• 20:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a smart idea.
• 20:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I but really like stacking the margins with Henry.
• 20:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do it a fair amount.
• 20:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Looks like we're kind of starting this draft the same way receiver running back quarterback.
• 20:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I wonder if we keep that up or if we kind of diversify it a certain point just depending on how the board falls.
• 20:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel like you went big quarterback normally on it for me and DK I'd still try to get three quarterbacks every time in this if you have a stud will you try to maybe risk it with two or just see them.
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm definitely going to have no pressure up to grab a quarterback too.
• 20:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I am fine.
• 21:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: If it happens to work out that like I end up with like a giant receiver tied under like a Saints receiver tied under something.
• 21:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm perfectly happy just waiting till my last pick and taking either shock dart or Russell Wilson.
• 21:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: What I haven't really quarterback because realistically this
• 21:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: If Josh Allen goes down, it's going to probably be hard for this team to be successful.
• 21:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if I double down and use that, another pick on, even another like top a hundred pick on a quarterback like that's just, and Josh Allen doesn't get hurt.
• 21:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like I might kind of just guaranteeing that like a top hundred pick is just a zero every week.
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's going to be tough from a, I think from a depth standpoint to other positions.
• 21:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm probably going to wait quite a bit on my second quarterback.
• 21:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Unless I just get something like in the same value somewhere along the way.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hear you on that.
• 21:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think, here, do you think you're, do you think you'll end up going with like an elite tight end as you're on the clock now?
• 21:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because you win a lead quarterback or are you going to maybe not punt tight in a little bit of George Kittle sitting there for picks past AVP?
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm just kind of talking out loud.
• 22:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm I'm super between worthy and DJ more DJ more.
• 22:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just he was when I started to him out and he was way higher than I expected just because I kind of brought in a little bit of okay, this offense is going to improve going to look not fully like the lines, but like I used the lines and kind of
• 22:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: reverted the lines very close back to the mean like the league average and even then he'd just looked absurdly good.
• 22:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he's somebody who I like targeting.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: okay so putting a putting a bet on on the model here in basketball and going with cook or DJ more of a worthy I probably wouldn't wear the but you got a trust your model because if you're if you're not going to trust it who's going to trust it right yeah let's go with I like Jamison Williams speaking of the lions I think that I mean I think he ends up being a top twenty receiver this year plus his bike week potential is just so big for basketball yeah
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, yeah, I'm a big, like I am a big worthy fan.
• 23:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just, I couldn't, I have DJ more like, top ten.
• 23:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't have worthy at high.
• 23:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I just couldn't really justify it in my own head.
• 23:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, I get that.
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: That makes sense.
• 23:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, I like worthy a lot better for best ball than I do for managed leagues.
• 23:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's, I mean, it sounds like your, your model probably kind of agrees to an extent.
• 23:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was hoping to get exciting.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm normally not a bi week bro, but I'm gonna go with Wattel over Pickins.
• 23:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't the two week ten bias is interesting and we're kind of at a point now where
• 23:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're in the last like, thirty or so days for drafting and I want to do start making a push and kind of consciously targeting the players that I believe in and that I want to take a stand on and Jaila Wildell is just one of those guys.
• 24:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that, what, how does your model feel about the two dolphins receivers?
• 24:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it takes age and kind of like a, you know, decline that has to do with age and have variety of different things into a factor if it's more just plugging in numbers to a wide receiver one or wide receiver two and stuff like that.
• 24:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just to give it a little background.
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: It, it goes, it uses like an offense.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I have two years of offenses, last season and the season prior.
• 24:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: like last season there are way too many injuries are almost just kind of skipped last season.
• 24:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I, there were a lot of injuries last year, sorry.
• 24:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Charlie, I'm on the clock, man.
• 24:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I just don't want to.
• 24:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yo, yeah, yeah, yeah, always stop when you're on the clock.
• 24:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got to pay attention to that.
• 24:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're sure rice went at fifty five.
• 24:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to talk about him in a second because he's a guy that's been fall.
• 25:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 25:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, finish up your thought about the model a little bit.
• 25:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, lost my dream.
• 25:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought, but yeah, where was that going?
• 25:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: You were talking about how you kind of plugged in the last two years of off end of the A last year's a bit different because there were some injuries, so grain assault type deal.
• 25:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I used like the year prior's offensive data and then kind of reverted it back to twenty twenty five league average.
• 25:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: So like I can pick and choose kind of what I want.
• 25:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: like base model, like the base offense to be projected on like, for example, Chicago.
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I picked Detroit's offense from two years ago and then just kind of reverted it back to the meat.
• 25:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I can kind of pick and choose what I want to do with coaching changes or any of that comes into play.
• 25:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can like Ben Johnson's going to take his offense.
• 25:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to be as good so you can kind of revert it back to the mean, but
• 25:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's one thing that's kind of the start of it.
• 25:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then everything there is just honestly like volume based rushing chair and receiving chair.
• 26:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and so do you think next year?
• 26:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, kind of what we'll just stick with the bears offense because that's kind of what we've kind of been talking about and using an example of.
• 26:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, you said you kind of reverted it back to the mean a little bit considering that you know he's now ahead coach somewhere different new players.
• 26:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's probably going to take guys a little bit of time to you know, figure it out and get in and kind of get in the groove of things next year or you're going to kind of
• 26:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: No holds bar like the projection is a projection and you're on the clock.
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: So if you want to take a minute and talk through your.
• 26:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: My question.
• 26:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking.
• 26:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I have two very safe running backs.
• 26:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I want to get a little bit of upside there.
• 26:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I want my RV.
• 26:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a big Barbie fan, but I like what you're saying as far as like you Derek Henry and James Connor are both pretty safe.
• 26:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: So shoot for the movement on the third one.
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was just I'm not the biggest fan to be honest either, but where the value is I'm flying with it.
• 27:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like pure saw over Jennings, but I don't I don't it with that offense.
• 27:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Don't we don't talk about where he appears all if if I'm not on the clock.
• 27:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm he might go here that makes me a bit nervous.
• 27:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I he's I talked about kind of targeting guys heavily that I I truly believe in and there he goes at seventy he's one of those guys I was gonna.
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well tonight back.
• 27:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And all right, that's so upsetting.
• 27:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll go to my camera and he's a guy.
• 27:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a guy.
• 27:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to give you points.
• 27:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe not the best that small player.
• 27:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of on a week, two week basis, but sometimes you just need that floor.
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, you're not so okay.
• 27:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Plus, there's always the contingency that if junior games hits the lottery and decides he has one by football anymore.
• 28:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: David Montgomery probably has like a top like a top three.
• 28:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I so I try not to predict injury, but yeah, that that's hitting the lottery for me.
• 28:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that is kind of what I mean for these guys because I don't like to put that on anybody, but like if something happens to Jimmy or give is I mean, David Montgomery is like the guy, right?
• 28:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's early to me with Warren who went right out of you.
• 28:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think so too.
• 28:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I would, yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and we know it's gonna be a three game suspension.
• 28:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's the end of the world.
• 28:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I missed the pick, but that's okay.
• 28:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's the end of the world in terms of his value.
• 28:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're kind of the most healthy in the first three weeks, and I like through receivers I got to fill those positions.
• 28:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would have won Jayden Reed, but I would have almost felt locked into having to take Thorden Love as I was able to had Josh Jacobs as well.
• 29:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just didn't really want to be pressured into doing that here.
• 29:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm certain I like look at
• 29:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: my potential stacks coming up soon too and I don't.
• 29:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: See Lamar's tough, if you miss out on Zap Flowers, which is really kind of a hit or missed depending where he goes and drafts.
• 29:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you've kind of got the two tight ends.
• 29:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: You've got a shot of Bateman, and then you've got maybe like a deep target in or by deep, I mean, deep in drafts, like latent drafts.
• 29:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: The other Hopkins and whatnot.
• 29:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: So Lamar's an interesting guy to try to stack and how you're going to kind of try to figure this out here, as you're on the clock with couple seconds left,
• 29:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't see what he's been here ultimately.
• 29:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's it.
• 29:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: See, that's who I would have went.
• 29:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like Jayden Reed.
• 29:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's one of the guys.
• 29:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, he's upside.
• 29:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's just, there's so many people in that offense that have to eat.
• 30:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe he's the guy.
• 30:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's probably the most talented.
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just, he's the type of guy I normally avoid.
• 30:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know he's so frustrating because like he's he's a really talented player, but for whatever reason the packers only they only use him through water receiver sets.
• 30:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm hoping that'll eventually change and maybe I'm disbanging my head against the wall with so much full thinking, but I don't know man, I just like the pick especially in basketball because he does have such huge upside for like weak winning weeks.
• 30:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I
• 30:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got feeling like him and maybe the fact that Golden's there, he kind of stretches the defense a little bit and he can read, can kind of do his stuff in the slot and kind of be that power slot and yards after catch guy.
• 30:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 30:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll talk myself into it if I have to.
• 30:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 30:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we see Patrick Mahomes going down here at the seven eight turn.
• 31:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I wonder he went.
• 31:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: He went unstacked as did burrow.
• 31:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's an interesting strategy.
• 31:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then Kelsey, so he did an abstracting Mahomes.
• 31:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: What are you thinking coming back here on the turn?
• 31:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: You've got three running backs, three receivers and a quarterback.
• 31:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: to baiting Andrews.
• 31:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: But like Mark Andrews, I just don't.
• 31:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 31:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 31:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't.
• 31:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't feel like the value is quite there.
• 31:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.
• 31:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: How do you use him?
• 31:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: He goes and I go with your trip.
• 31:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
• 31:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: That would be okay.
• 31:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: You don't owe me anything.
• 31:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'd definitely buy the dip on the high-end equals brains of it concerning, but he's got plenty of time to recover, and you don't win the money in week one.
• 31:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Unless you're playing weekly winners, which we are not, we are doing best fall me and you had a shot for two million dollars.
• 32:04
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• 32:10
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• 32:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm up here at pick.
• 32:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ninety five.
• 32:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've got two running backs for receivers and a quarter back.
• 32:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um,
• 32:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know he on call and makes the most sense right from like a stacking standpoint a fifth receiver would be good.
• 32:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just not really a believer.
• 32:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Honestly.
• 32:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: What I'm so what I'm going to do is I think I'm just going to go with some upside and in J and Higgins.
• 32:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: He could be, I mean, he's probably at some point going to be the number two, I think in the Houston offense.
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like Christian Kirk a lot, a lot of respect for him.
• 33:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think he starts out as part of the second target, but I think as the season goes on, and Higgins kind of gets adjusted, they kind of go to him a bit more.
• 33:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And now I'll be back on the clock.
• 33:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Don't worry.
• 33:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to take Mark Andrews.
• 33:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's not my favorite.
• 33:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not my favorite target, especially if I don't have Lamar.
• 33:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I am going to do.
• 33:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Who, man?
• 33:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Going to be a bit of a home or I think go Tyrone Tracy.
• 33:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just completely out.
• 33:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Scatobo's interesting, he's an interesting player.
• 33:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's a day fewer running back, as was Tyrone Tracy, of course, the job that I'm in the fifth round last year.
• 33:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so the data on day fewer running back suggests that it's a really low hit rate.
• 33:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so you hit on one last year.
• 33:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And now you spent another day through pick on a this year, like what are the odds you hit twice in a row?
• 34:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I also understand that this is a really deep, like, you know, running back classes, far as the rookies go.
• 34:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's probably plays into the fact is why some of these guys probably went a little bit later, because team saw more depth, attacked other positions earlier, knowing that they would have someone there like that running back in the later rounds.
• 34:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Skate of Bow is also dealing with a hamstring injury, which is never pretty good.
• 34:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just trust Tracy.
• 34:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know people are going to talk about the fumbles and such, but he did.
• 34:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're playing running back.
• 34:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, I just unplug my mic.
• 34:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I saw your if there's a little bit of echo.
• 34:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just saw that now, but he's a kind of running back.
• 34:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just kind of so learning to play the position and he had a great season.
• 34:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: They can use him out of the back field as a past capture where they say scapegoat as well.
• 34:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Also, but I don't know.
• 34:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just I'm just in on Tracy a bit more.
• 35:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Probably because I've seen him do it.
• 35:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've seen him be good.
• 35:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: What is your model, I think, project?
• 35:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you like take into account rookies and like any sort of?
• 35:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's so like questionable on who's going to be the guy, it's just hard for the model to like both of them aren't projected to do well.
• 35:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because that offense isn't necessarily projected to do that well.
• 35:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty much neighbors and no one else.
• 35:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: that makes sense.
• 35:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And realistically, that's a likely outcome for the giant, right, is that it's a ton of league neighbors and a lot of just randomness and nobody's really worth it at that point.
• 35:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I see you went each year as I rambled about the giant running back room, which nobody particularly cares about.
• 35:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's fallen quite a bit as you're on the clock again here and now.
• 35:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm debating.
• 36:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how much I like this.
• 36:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
• 36:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll go for she.
• 36:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she needs a guy that I just.
• 36:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love receipts.
• 36:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's the best.
• 36:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, a lot of ways the best talent.
• 36:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think he's.
• 36:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't trust him to be healthy.
• 36:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he's she heed to me is like the definition of a best ball receiver.
• 36:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I like Bershigeed.
• 36:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm over fifteen percent Bershigeed, I think.
• 36:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm out.
• 36:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I think that's a great pick.
• 36:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I take him sometimes as high as pick one hundred if I need a receiver and that range is just kind of always tough.
• 36:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have no idea what I'm gonna do here.
• 36:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like my team.
• 36:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think we're solid.
• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's just no like obvious.
• 36:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just like obvious choice.
• 36:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: You also haven't eaten Thai then yet.
• 36:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know I haven't, and I don't love, I'm gonna go talk to say spears.
• 37:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just add another upside running back.
• 37:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm liking Tucker craft a bit more.
• 37:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know we talked about kind of they're being a lot of mouths to feed and in green bank, but I like him a bit more.
• 37:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's been a lot of hype about like he's the guy like they're going to get him the mall and may doubt a focal point.
• 37:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: And while there's a lot of depth, like all that depth comes from the receivers, like when you draw a place for like the tight end, like he's going to be the guy.
• 37:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: You could draw a place for different receivers, but if you want to go with your
• 37:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: tight end.
• 37:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to reach here for dawn.
• 37:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can keep by the way.
• 37:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, get my first tight end.
• 37:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, guy that can realistically be the number one target for Josh.
• 37:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's good.
• 37:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Zach too.
• 37:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, excellent.
• 37:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm, I'm happy to pull them up around.
• 37:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and yeah, so I think I've got, I've kind of got everything filled out and now it's a matter of this filling out depth everywhere.
• 37:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, as I've got a rock in a one, four, five, one through eleven rounds.
• 38:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Brian, we're at a point now where the receivers, as you can see, kind of scrolling through the ADP is pretty thin.
• 38:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I know you kind of took some other positions a little earlier in the draft.
• 38:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: So how are you feeling about the receiver room, the options, and having to maybe play a little catch up?
• 38:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Or you feel like you've got a great room, like maybe I'm just completely off base.
• 38:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, I wanted to kind of complete a stack with golf there.
• 38:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I felt like he kind of fell.
• 38:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: So now I have an almond.
• 38:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, oh, I like that.
• 38:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm in raw with a golf.
• 38:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: That makes me feel a little better.
• 38:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think I was pretty ornating.
• 38:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're just guaranteeing high end quarterback play on this team is.
• 38:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 38:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't really need.
• 38:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't feel the need with golf to get a third quarterback.
• 38:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: So
• 38:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, and then I can just kind of take shot.
• 38:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to need a third tight at my tight end group is not nowhere to be seen at the moment, but yeah, at this point you're definitely going to need three.
• 39:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I might need three unless I want to take one within the next two rounds, a guy that I really like, but I'll probably end up with three as well.
• 39:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm only taking two quarterbacks, even if it's just the last round, just to add somebody on for a by week filler, what have you?
• 39:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we're kind of starting to see some guys that I wanted to talk a little bit about as far as ADP shifts.
• 39:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know you took Travis ETN, but we've seen tank beads be rise at least on underdog.
• 39:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's up like twenty thirty picks now.
• 39:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: has he just you just went right yeah one thirty three.
• 39:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: If your model kind of a mess for the Jaguars running backs to because there are three of them right that are realistically going to probably get some work so how do you how do you project those guys and is obviously tn is the guy as far as a dp but it's the guy as far as your model goes to.
• 40:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, it's they're all kind of similar.
• 40:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know.
• 40:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I've heard some pretty good news on ETN and worse.
• 40:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like to me, I feel like worst case.
• 40:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: He kind of gets that Rashad white roll from the Tampa.
• 40:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that feels kind of high floory to me.
• 40:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I need to tie it down to you.
• 40:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like, oh, run stack.
• 40:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ferguson, I feel like he could a second or third option on that team.
• 40:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's like the third of his tight ends kind of happy there.
• 40:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the baiting.
• 40:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's to just go super high upside.
• 40:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: but I like, I'm a big Kyle Pitt's fan this season at cost.
• 40:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was hoping you get Josh Palmer.
• 41:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm smart as you go, go to over Ferguson as an Eagles fan, maybe you kind of realized that.
• 41:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's just always hurt.
• 41:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 41:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ferguson's probably a bit safer, I think, too, as far as fantasy goes.
• 41:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and when I'm moving my tight-end room looks like this, I'm gonna try to stay a little bit safer.
• 41:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and take pits here.
• 41:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: By the way, I was hoping I was opening a Palmer.
• 41:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: He went a couple of picks before me, but so cow pits, I think there's just kind of the next bus guy there.
• 41:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 41:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there are a few of the rookie tight-ends who I'm a fan of.
• 41:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
• 41:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, are you talking about later or like, are you talking about later?
• 41:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, later.
• 41:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 41:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a, oh.
• 41:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Braille and Allen went at, one, forty, four.
• 41:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Came worried.
• 41:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's taking a stand, I think.
• 41:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 41:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they are the end, so maybe they just didn't think they would last, but, you know what?
• 42:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll take the Hollywood value, right?
• 42:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hollywood's a guy like I think he's interesting.
• 42:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, because it's a good thing I cut him up.
• 42:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I missed hitting the draft button.
• 42:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think he could have some spike weeks in that Kansas City offense.
• 42:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's just really got to stay healthy, but I don't love that pick for me, but this range is kind of just, I think, a mess in itself.
• 42:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we're here, Miss.
• 42:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Hollywood Brown around discount is fine with me, I think.
• 42:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry for bait, man, but I guess he went already.
• 42:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, bait man normally goes in like the one teens.
• 42:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: At this point, do you have anyone to stack with them or not yet?
• 42:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: That can yet, but you're on the clock now.
• 42:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's why you were looking for.
• 43:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you can take him to Queen John Judge.
• 43:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Judd, Kim's bullet.
• 43:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: How do you do you think he's not playing this year?
• 43:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously none of us are experts on like the domestic violence or legal situation or anything.
• 43:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is that just a point for you?
• 43:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: We got the point where like the risk is worth a reward with whoever's off the board.
• 43:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've five pretty safe.
• 43:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, four.
• 43:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have four kind of safe ish running back, so him being my fifth.
• 43:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's more of an upside play.
• 43:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know when I was really stuck out to me, so I don't know how to take an upside play out for the best, but.
• 43:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's definitely a pretty tough range.
• 43:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking here at the board and I was going to suggest that you look for likely, but he went in the eleventh round, which he went annoyingly early.
• 43:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he normally he's been falling to because of he because he just broke his foot and I was also going to suggest key in Mitchell towards the end, but he went in the forking frown.
• 44:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you, uh, your aunt else, justice and allow.
• 44:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Justice Hill went to.
• 44:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man.
• 44:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: He got him both.
• 44:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: What are we?
• 44:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he also took bait man.
• 44:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, me might.
• 44:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he's a raven sent.
• 44:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: He has Bateman, yeah.
• 44:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Does that, does that low key feel like a waste of a Pooka neighbor's start?
• 44:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you like kind of look down the, I know you're on the clock.
• 44:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: So in a second, he, he went Pooka neighbors, Wilson, Kyron Williams, Stefan Diggs, which I think is a fine start.
• 44:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, Bateman, Engram, likely, Biggsbee, Justice Hill, Key and Mitchell.
• 44:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like it kind of feels like we're kind of teeter on the point of like,
• 44:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, just feels like an interesting team to me.
• 44:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like did I snipe him from getting?
• 44:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like it.
• 44:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: That might be it.
• 44:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's just going full revenge on you because you might have snipped in some or long line and like from getting Lamar, maybe I don't know.
• 44:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe Lamar though, isn't really like the worst guy to have unstacked, right?
• 45:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because he has he's a lot of his value comes from the rushing and they typically spread the ball out a lot.
• 45:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: They don't have like a guy that like they
• 45:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: they target super heavy now that Mark Andrews is kind of in in the second half of his career.
• 45:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: So if you can't end up getting de-hopply in the draft, if you even really want to take that route, like the Mark Jack is not the worst dude in the world to have unstacked.
• 45:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I haven't queueed up just because he's somebody's stack, but I'm not loving it, but
• 45:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right, right.
• 45:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's just I mean at that like at that point what if you again if you got like one or two weeks out of out of your sixteenth round effect like you're probably feeling pretty decent, right?
• 45:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's like do I want that or do I want Tesla this stack with potential golf?
• 45:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Tesla's higher ceiling.
• 45:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Way lower, but
• 45:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you could probably get both, but, but I hear what you're sounding like.
• 45:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's at this point you're kind of just playing a game, right?
• 46:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, hey, maybe Lamar finds Deon Draupkins for fifty yards and two touchdowns won game this season, right?
• 46:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then you're probably feeling pretty good about it.
• 46:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, maybe that's reverse ebers.
• 46:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Are you done with it or are you you keep going?
• 46:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: This this this this position stinks.
• 46:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just going to go ahead and take my darling where you go down to reach way up the board.
• 46:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't know.
• 46:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I might add a seventh receiver dance to your question.
• 46:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I might add a seventh.
• 46:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I picked you to make millions.
• 46:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, there we have seven now.
• 46:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 46:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm saying.
• 46:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I pick you to make me on on the first side of that turn to get me to seven.
• 46:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll kind of see how it goes.
• 46:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll see maybe a lot on an eighth.
• 46:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I'm going to go with a third tidy yet either or how many running backs I want to finish with.
• 46:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I think I've a lot of flexibility with this with this team at the moment.
• 46:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was looking at board who just went.
• 47:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's a everyone like still in Samson just in case.
• 47:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: When Sean's asked, yeah, I feel like, or it'll get some more the, like he'll be a bit more trusted to the end on passing down, which you just are more likely to get some.
• 47:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: who I'm so.
• 47:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so who are you now that Ford's gone?
• 47:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you've got to make a different selection.
• 47:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so were you thinking of Ford solely because you have John Git, Judkins, and kind of just to to handcuff that situation, or were you like, what were you thinking there as far as wanting Ford and two guys from the same backfield?
• 47:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't even really thinking about the Judkins at first.
• 47:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just like his value there.
• 47:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, now that I have job can to probably wouldn't have made sense anyways after I look at it.
• 47:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I heard good things about Mason Taylor.
• 47:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would say he just got hurt.
• 47:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, but I have two old older safer tight ends.
• 48:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, Taylor, I'm hoping it's kind of the upside play.
• 48:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I Ferguson Henry and Taylor.
• 48:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't hate that tight end room as a whole, given how long I waited.
• 48:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I just kind of go for some upside plays at receiver.
• 48:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I really like for Titan room.
• 48:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think Ferguson likes it.
• 48:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think Ferguson is good.
• 48:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: He could be the second target some weeks.
• 48:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like Hunter Henry and then Mason Taylor as long as he can recover from that high ankle sprain.
• 48:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't linger all season.
• 48:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is what probably the number two target for the jets at the moment?
• 48:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 48:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, come and up here.
• 48:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've heard things about Woody March.
• 48:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 48:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like Woody Marks a lot.
• 48:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think he ends up probably being the starting running back to a certain point in Houston.
• 48:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've got about over ten percent Woody Marks at the moment.
• 48:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm going to go there.
• 49:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was between him and Sanders.
• 49:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not positive.
• 49:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Javante is getting that role.
• 49:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't think Sanders is that great anyways, but
• 49:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Felix Sanders is like he looks like what people want their running back to look like, even though he hasn't done that much other than buying the Eagles offensive line.
• 49:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna tell you if I wandell.
• 49:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, really not.
• 49:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: To be honest, that baby values looking really nice, but honestly, probably not.
• 49:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm, I'm really in a pickle with my QB-II because there is, I don't have anybody.
• 49:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: They've, they've not a single option.
• 49:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, you got an upside play there.
• 49:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: You've convinced me.
• 49:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: You've convinced me.
• 49:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's a guy and the Richardson is going to be the pick here.
• 49:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I actually like Jane Danny or not Jane Daniels.
• 50:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I really like Daniel Jones.
• 50:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think better.
• 50:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's going to end up being more consistent and probably give the cults a better chance to win.
• 50:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Whether we want to admit it or not, and the culture coaching staff is coaching for their jobs, right?
• 50:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: So they're going to want to take the guy that is going to give them the better chance to win.
• 50:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I will go ahead and just stack him with Alex Pierce.
• 50:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Call it a day.
• 50:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, I'd recommend.
• 50:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, God.
• 50:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: To me, I feel like it's this like screams to me, Richardson starts the season.
• 50:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: He does poorly coaching, coaching staff tries to save their butt.
• 50:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: They put in Daniel Jones.
• 50:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then they get fired because the team's just not that good.
• 50:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then their interim puts back in Anthony Richardson because why are we gonna play Daniel Jones if he's for sure not the long term.
• 50:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 50:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Learn something.
• 50:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like we know Dino Jones isn't that great.
• 51:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like yeah, easily I'll let back up.
• 51:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, solid backup, a starting quarterback, not so much.
• 51:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I didn't, I'm looking at it now.
• 51:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just come over on my roster.
• 51:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got a nice little twenty two pig discount there on Anthony Richardson and the BBM.
• 51:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: So ultimately, I guess you can't really hate that, right?
• 51:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, not at all.
• 51:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was going to before you said,
• 51:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: about.
• 51:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you hear my dog whining?
• 51:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do not actually.
• 51:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
• 51:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's just sitting here.
• 51:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, you ended up going to eat up.
• 51:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 51:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: We've got we've got a Lamar stack.
• 51:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: We fell long.
• 51:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was to bathe him a few rounds earlier just to get something, but he kept falling.
• 51:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'll take it.
• 51:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 51:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, I think he's a fine pick at two hundred right like that's.
• 51:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a good pick.
• 51:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't even really remember what.
• 51:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I was going to talk about Seattle for a second before you kind of convinced me to get Richardson.
• 51:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was probably just going to go with Sam Darnold and then who's still on the board here in the two hundred and the eighteenth round, which I think is kind of wild.
• 52:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I was going to go with him and then stacked him with a rollo and either MDS or Horton here at the end.
• 52:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: didn't play out that way.
• 52:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think in a BVM, the higher upside in Richardson was probably a better place.
• 52:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: So thank you for, thank you for bringing that to my attention.
• 52:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Are you going to go get a third or, you know, I'm not going to get a third quarterback.
• 52:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I am perfectly happy with the two with a two quarterback room with Josh Allen leading the way.
• 52:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to decide if I want a third tight end or a sixth running back.
• 52:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like that's, that's the decision.
• 52:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: but I'm gonna be facing here.
• 52:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I guess I'll go Tesla.
• 52:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, so you ended up with a two, six, seven, and three.
• 52:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like adding Tesla out there on the end.
• 53:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was between him or getting more running back upside with Monungai or in like Korean hunts of value at this point in the draft.
• 53:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't, cause like what if he just has kind of that third downroll, the trusted role on that team again?
• 53:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't know how I feel about.
• 53:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't know how I feel about the Chief Frame Act situation at all.
• 53:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: For Shard Smith is probably the guy that I target just busy.
• 53:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of the unknown rookie mystery on an exploits that were all the number two.
• 53:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: You said what?
• 53:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sheeply just went without saying.
• 53:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he went into the thirteen.
• 53:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would he was on my mind for that week for that week's seventeen correlation.
• 53:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is where I was like, you know, I don't really like will sheeply.
• 53:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've been really taken, but like it makes sense here, but then he ended up going.
• 53:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: There aren't any like running backs that I really love all of my all the targets I like late.
• 54:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: go earlier than this now, so I'm going to go ahead and go with a third tight end.
• 54:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Take Theo Johnson.
• 54:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's kind of the last.
• 54:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's the last guy here at tight end that is like going to be the story.
• 54:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 54:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like that could be that like number one option.
• 54:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so the drafts is over, Brian and I'll each kind of go through our teams.
• 54:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I ended up with a two, five, eight, three bill to the quarterbacks being Josh Allen and Anthony Richardson.
• 54:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: My running back room is Josh Jacobs, David Montgomery, Tyrone Tracy, Tajaj Spears and Rico Doutel.
• 54:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: My receivers are Jamar Chase at one of two.
• 54:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Chameleon Williams, Jalen Wattel, Jordan Addison, Jalen, Haker, Jaden Higgins, Hollywood Brown, Jalen McMillan, and Alec Pierce.
• 55:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then the three tight ends are Bowing King Cade, Kyle Pitz, and Theo Johnson.
• 55:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ryan, what is your team look like?
• 55:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I am quarterbacks.
• 55:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Two, or I did a two, six, seven.
• 55:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So quarterbacks Lamar and golf.
• 55:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Probably went a little higher than I need to on the second QB, but I, because my first fighter Sero was almond raw.
• 55:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I felt like I enjoyed that stack running back.
• 55:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I pretty safe, honestly.
• 55:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've like older names in Derek Henry, James Conner and Travis at the end, two rookies in RJ Harvey and Quinn.
• 55:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Her three rookies in RJ Harvey, Quinn Chun-Jubkins and Woody Marx.
• 55:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: So,
• 55:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: a little bit of safe and upside.
• 55:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I actually really enjoy that running back room.
• 55:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why do receivers?
• 55:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just kind of went target chair based.
• 55:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, at least for the first four picks, I'm in raw, D.J.
• 55:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Moore, J.D.
• 55:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: and Reed, hoping for the best, and then Clealshuk here.
• 55:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's, to me, just, he's the widersiever one, whether it's uglier or not.
• 56:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the widersiever one at the moment for Josh Allen.
• 56:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's, to me, seems valuable.
• 56:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's just kind of a lottery pick over the best.
• 56:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can see him at least being rostered twice or having two weeks where he's a starter.
• 56:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, and then de-hop and Tesla are just more stacks just in case.
• 56:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just kind of emergency stacks fill out the bridge.
• 56:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would avoid end.
• 56:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 56:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, tight ends are just Ferguson Henry Mason Taylor Taylor's kind of an upside play in Ferguson and Henry.
• 56:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like that.
• 56:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have any stacks on my tight end cubies.
• 56:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of like what I prefer to do is get the cuby tight end stacks.
• 56:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it didn't fall.
• 56:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: People were pretty high on the rate.
• 56:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: The one guy was very high on the Ravens players.
• 56:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'll take what I can get.
• 56:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so why do you why do you favor stacking tight ends with the quarterback above kind of maybe some other thing?
• 57:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's some other positions per second.
• 57:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because I think like unless you're a top here tight end, the reason you're going to be a starter is because you got a touchdown.
• 57:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if you were to get touchdown, that means you're quarterback through you one.
• 57:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's ten points.
• 57:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of like
• 57:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Unless I'm going for a McBride for a Bowers.
• 57:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: And to me, like, that's some people are super high on Kittle.
• 57:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: To me, it's a very clear McBride Bower.
• 57:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Bowers, then McBride is the first here.
• 57:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then Kittles is own, and then kind of after that, it's a few different, probably like the older guys and Andrews Kelsey, et cetera.
• 57:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if I'm not getting the top three, then I just kind of want to shock on approach and just get tight ends who can fall in the end zone.
• 57:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that's probably the way to go as far as head end as well.
• 57:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of what I do, too.
• 57:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think my, it probably took a slightly higher talent as far as my tight end as thing you did per se, just because I took them a little bit earlier, but I kind of took the same approach with the Kate Pitz and the O Johnson.
• 58:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: All guys that could be high targeted, target earners on their offense.
• 58:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: All guys that can have a splash week, especially concave with Allen.
• 58:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like that a lot.
• 58:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I was happy to reach around for that for him.
• 58:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just because I didn't really like a lot of the players there for the build that I was in.
• 58:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I wanted to make sure I got someone to pair with Josh Allen.
• 58:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that was good.
• 58:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Brian.
• 58:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: One question before we shut down shop here, we're going on about an hour.
• 58:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Did you enjoy yourself as a new basketball player?
• 58:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Did you enjoy it?
• 58:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Did you learn something?
• 58:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're going to play a little bit more.
• 58:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I put money in, so.
• 58:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I definitely did.
• 59:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's funny how like, I mean, this is everybody like how annoyed you can get at someone like why did this one random dude just get four Baltimore Ravens and five rounds?
• 59:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, all above ADP, just so you couldn't take them.
• 59:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 59:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's, I mean, it's just kind of funny how that works out.
• 59:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I enjoy, like I, the one earlier I never had to pick one.
• 59:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: So like I enjoyed that draft.
• 59:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: The fun part for me is kind of picking in different spots, run like to avoid the seven denying range, just because I'm in that a lot, but this is definitely a different team that I've ever had.
• 59:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, stuff's kind of constantly changing all of the
• 59:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: ADPs and stuff like that.
• 59:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I ended up with the rushing quarterback again, like I said, normally I wouldn't, but I do.
• 59:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: You said you prefer to have three pocket passers and then they're going to the Marjax and bang third round right off the rip.
• 59:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it's like, I'm not knocking it.
• 1:00:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I won.
• 1:00:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I won two leagues last season with having hurts and say clot.
• 1:00:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, where?
• 1:00:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's beautiful.
• 1:00:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: where like every rushing touchdown on that team, on a run heavy team with a great offensive line I had.
• 1:00:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you got you had every Eagles touchdown because you, yeah, half of it.
• 1:00:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was jail and hurts passing the ball too.
• 1:00:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: So like you had, have you had a part of every single Eagles touchdowns.
• 1:00:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm, I don't know, they exactly, but I'm willing to bet they scored a lot.
• 1:00:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:00:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And especially at the end of the season when the defense was doing well, like they ran the ball a lot.
• 1:00:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm almost hoping this is kind of that version of it.
• 1:00:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if it weren't for Sake Juan and hurts last season, like it would have been Henry was like, everyone's favorite player.
• 1:00:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's just kind of that kind of play.
• 1:00:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's been home maybe since all year.
• 1:00:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're going to get that this year just just in Baltimore instead of Philly.
• 1:00:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:00:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And like I live closer to Baltimore anyway.
• 1:00:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: So
• 1:00:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: maybe I want to do the Eagles play in Baltimore, maybe you can go catch a road game and down there.
• 1:01:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they I think they played last year.
• 1:01:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they played this season.
• 1:01:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a bummer.
• 1:01:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm down here near Charlotte and the Giants played the Panthers.
• 1:01:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
• 1:01:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was last year, right?
• 1:01:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, man, I'm going to go.
• 1:01:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty excited.
• 1:01:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then when schedule came out, they went to Germany.
• 1:01:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was the game, and I was just like, oh my goodness.
• 1:01:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: That sucks.
• 1:01:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Really?
• 1:01:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was like, you know, I really like, I like that they do the games overseas, but I was like, it had to be this one.
• 1:01:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, I'm not normally like, I'd almost prefer not to go to like, I mean, I say that I went to the Super Bowl this year, so that was fun.
• 1:01:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:01:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hold on, we got a hold on time out.
• 1:01:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was going to try to end the show because we're a little over an hour, but no, how was the Super Bowl?
• 1:01:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you were amazing.
• 1:01:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it was equals fan too.
• 1:01:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure it was out.
• 1:01:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was that much better.
• 1:01:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Probably the reason why you forced the issue to go.
• 1:01:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: But like, yeah, what was that?
• 1:01:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: My God.
• 1:02:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was like a once.
• 1:02:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy they won because it's like, I went with my cousin and uncle half season tickets to Philly.
• 1:02:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, most of my families in the Philly area.
• 1:02:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Very cool.
• 1:02:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I went with them.
• 1:02:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: They went to the previous Super Bowl that we lost to the jeeps.
• 1:02:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they were like, they were kind of like, oh, maybe we'll go probably not.
• 1:02:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, well, if you do end up going like let me know, I guess I'll go with.
• 1:02:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I know this is my guess I'll go with you as your role.
• 1:02:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, then they decided to pull trigger on it.
• 1:02:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was, I mean, definitely I want some like time thing like, yeah, we had the tickets we got had like the pre-concert.
• 1:02:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: So like,
• 1:02:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, so you run as curious.
• 1:02:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like they, I think it's Fandel, kick a destiny.
• 1:02:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like that was just like you could watch it.
• 1:02:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
• 1:02:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Martian Lynch was like playing cats with kids and like, you're just like a round a bunch of people in the downtown city.
• 1:02:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: You just like walk past random like stars.
• 1:02:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: So like that was the cool part of it.
• 1:03:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: The game, which is nerve wracking because we're up by so much that it's like, I don't want to be the team that blows this.
• 1:03:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, there's always that like we can't be the Falcons.
• 1:03:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like yeah, but then the Cooper Degene picks six just kind of sealed it like I bought myself a Cooper Degene Super Bowl jersey as a just the like you made my experience way better, where it's just you can enjoy it after that.
• 1:03:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the nice little momentum, right?
• 1:03:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because like, I mean, I'm sorry, it's a jersey of your favorite team.
• 1:03:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: So like, that's pretty cool, right?
• 1:03:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: But like, you kind of got a specific player that I was like a specific moment.
• 1:03:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of ingrained in your, in your football, in your football fandom as, you know, a pick six in the Super Bowl that you will wrap that they won.
• 1:03:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like that's, yeah.
• 1:03:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's really cool.
• 1:03:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I fit that all season I won and I was like, I want to get a sequel on just like he did all this and I was like, I feel like I have to go to Jane after that pick six.
• 1:03:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's always good to be a little bit different with the jerseys.
• 1:03:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I say it one Thursday, what a hit different.
• 1:03:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure for pillage fans.
• 1:04:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have an autograph chance.
• 1:04:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Take one jersey.
• 1:04:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's currently hanging in my closet.
• 1:04:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, no, that's always cool.
• 1:04:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Really glad you guys experienced Super Bowl.
• 1:04:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've always said if the giants get there again, because that was a high school, the two times that they went.
• 1:04:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: So like, I didn't really have the money like that or like, yeah, or like the, I guess, ability to make that decision like that.
• 1:04:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: And parents are gonna be like, nah, I'll be like, you gotta go to school for the next day, right?
• 1:04:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now that I'm like an adult, I've always said if the giants get the Super Bowl, like I don't care where it is.
• 1:04:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I am going to find a way to get there.
• 1:04:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm really like, I'm happy for you that you got your experience that.
• 1:04:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah.
• 1:04:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, especially is like, I mean, we're doing a podcast about fans.
• 1:04:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: If like, we're football fans, I feel like it's a one to the lifetime thing.
• 1:04:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
• 1:04:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I, like, what I do it again, probably not, but like, that's just because it's late.
• 1:04:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I went.
• 1:04:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:04:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I did it.
• 1:04:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I had a great time.
• 1:04:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was awesome.
• 1:04:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, and like, I was even going to say prior to like, I'm not a big like, if I go to a football game, I almost don't want to go to my teams.
• 1:05:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because I want it to be like the social aspect where like you tailgate, you do all that stuff.
• 1:05:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: But like I'm watching the Eagles, I want to be like in on it.
• 1:05:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: You trying to watch the game, right?
• 1:05:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah.
• 1:05:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think what I love going to sporting events, you know, the the atmosphere, the camaraderie, like it's all great.
• 1:05:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like you said, the social aspect, but like you're trying to like sit down and like watch the game, like
• 1:05:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: live isn't is an always the best for that the first day so i i completely get that i mean should i go to any i would want to do well last year if i had an opportunity like i don't i go to super long ago super well but like if the giants ever got that like i'm i'm gonna force the issue yeah
• 1:05:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And like, yeah, I don't have kids yet.
• 1:05:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: So there was like, this was the perfect timing where I'm out of college enough, but I have money and I don't have kids yet and all the responsibilities like I can do this.
• 1:05:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, man, that's super cool.
• 1:05:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm probably got to chat about that for a couple of minutes.
• 1:05:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Any any other closing remarks, Brian?
• 1:06:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's just what I mean.
• 1:06:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm down to try this again for sure.
• 1:06:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully I won't draft a rushing quarterback after I told after I said I wanted three shotgun pocket passers, but you know,
• 1:06:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, right?
• 1:06:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that happens sometimes like when you're on like when I'm on a stream talking about like a draft like oh, like I prefer to do this or like like doing this and then like the way the draft falls is like I do the complete opposite thing.
• 1:06:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: But that just shows like it's good you have to be flexible and it's good to not be sold on one plan because you never know how the draft is going to go.
• 1:06:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: He ends it's different you probably feel this and you probably feel this way too.
• 1:06:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's different when you have the picking front of you like yeah, I have rankings but like
• 1:06:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Who am I really going to get it?
• 1:06:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I see Lamar standing there to me.
• 1:06:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's like the number one quarterback by fall.
• 1:06:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 1:06:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to get Lamar.
• 1:06:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like you said, you know, there are rankings, but when you're on the clock and then you're trying to build a team like sometimes you just want to build it a little bit different and maybe most of your drafts like you said you prefer the pocket passers, but like, hey,
• 1:07:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't love, I don't love these picks at the moment.
• 1:07:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go with them our Jackson and see what happens.
• 1:07:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think you ended up with a pretty good team.
• 1:07:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll kind of see if either one of us advance.
• 1:07:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to keep note of this league and of our team.
• 1:07:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: See if any of us advance to the playoffs for for Bestball Mania and try to win us some money.
• 1:07:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you all for tuning in.
• 1:07:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Again, the fantasy NFL today show in the room.
• 1:07:33
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• 1:07:35
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• 1:07:39
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• 1:07:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you all for tuning in.
• 1:07:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Make sure you tune in next Thursday as we'll do another draft.
• 1:07:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Have some more fun and go from there.
• 1:07:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: But until then, happy drafting everybody.