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Nik Ewing: Local Natives · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

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  Speaker 1: A promt to know chief thing King sometime do you
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  Speaker 1: feel the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: Today, We've got Nick from Local Natives, super excited to
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  Speaker 2: chat with you.
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  Speaker 3: Nick.
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  Speaker 2: You've been in the band now for over ten years,
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  Speaker 2: going on what like twelve thirteen years something like that,
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  Speaker 2: ten something like that.
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  Speaker 4: Probably, Yeah, twelve thirteen however, reminded. But I am the
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  Speaker 4: new guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're still still the new guy. Yeah. I grew up.
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  Speaker 2: I grew up in like the like very rural kind
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  Speaker 2: of Midwest, and my my grandma and grandpa actually lived
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  Speaker 2: in for sixty years and even more rural part of
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  Speaker 2: the Midwest, like in a town of like less than
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  Speaker 2: a thousand people.
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  Speaker 3: And even though.
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  Speaker 2: They lived there for sixty years, like died there and everything,
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  Speaker 2: because they weren't originally from there, they were never seen
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  Speaker 2: as like a local. And so maybe maybe someday you'll
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  Speaker 2: be considered a local, local native. But yeah, as of
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  Speaker 2: right now, you're still You're still in the new guy,
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  Speaker 2: You're still the transplant.
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  Speaker 4: It's all relative. There's always someone that's been there longer
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  Speaker 4: than you, and no one's been here longer.
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  Speaker 2: Any How are you doing today, Well, how's life on
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  Speaker 2: the Pacific Coast?
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing well. I'm a little It was racing over
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  Speaker 4: here in our studio. Nice podcast lovers love when you
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  Speaker 4: talk about stuff they can't see. But I'm in my studio.
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  Speaker 4: As you can see in the background raced over here.
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  Speaker 3: Is that your own studio or is that the band studio?
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  Speaker 4: This is the band studio?
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  Speaker 3: Nice?
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  Speaker 2: All right, So we're like we're seeing, we're seeing how
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  Speaker 2: the sausage is made.
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  Speaker 4: You're seeing a podcast as love.
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  Speaker 5: That is the shiniest piano I've ever seen. I literally
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  Speaker 5: feel like I'm i mean, like a Cadillac right now.
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  Speaker 4: You see a reflection in there.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Is that like somebody's garage or is it like
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  Speaker 2: its own like kind of space or.
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  Speaker 4: No, it's the sound space. It's like, I mean, it's
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  Speaker 4: like a an actual studio that we converted into like
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  Speaker 4: a like someone was living here before and we just
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  Speaker 4: turned it into like our workspace recording studio.
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  Speaker 2: Beautiful, and you almost like live close enough where you
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  Speaker 2: can kind of just go there whenever if you need.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like between all our houses. I could walk
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  Speaker 4: here if I wasn't running late. But that's just three minutes,
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  Speaker 4: as is the way in La.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, Colin and I have gotten to know Dustin
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  Speaker 2: Cancer really well from Thrice, which I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: you are you guys. You guys are in La now right.
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  Speaker 4: We're in La. But he Thrice there was some connection
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  Speaker 4: with Thrice in the the guitar player I think recorded
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  Speaker 4: at EP before it was local natives. Okay, Dustin came
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  Speaker 4: to our last La Greek show. Okay, he was like
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  Speaker 4: front row. He like bought a ticket. Oh yeah, it
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  Speaker 4: was disarmy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it.
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  Speaker 4: Well.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, I've gotten to know him pretty well.
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  Speaker 2: And he talks about how Thrice has, you know, their
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  Speaker 2: own like studio space, and I think it's like one
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  Speaker 2: of the guys is like backyard kind of big shed
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  Speaker 2: or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not I've never been there.
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  Speaker 2: But he's talked about it, but he talks about how
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  Speaker 2: like because the band owns it, He's like, it is
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  Speaker 2: the greatest investment that that band has ever made. He's like,
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  Speaker 2: it's probably the big reason why they're still a band
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  Speaker 2: after like almost thirty years is because like they have
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  Speaker 2: like their own specific space where they can record and
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  Speaker 2: do everything.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, if we were a wiser band, I remember talking
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  Speaker 4: about it like eight years ago. We should not be
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  Speaker 4: rented in any stage of life. You should not be
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  Speaker 4: renting if you're able to. But really, economic world that's crumbling.
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  Speaker 4: But if you can buy itself, Yeah, it's probably more
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  Speaker 4: valuable to have real estate than to be in a band.
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  Speaker 5: So can you like bunk up there and everything too?
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  Speaker 4: In theory? Is a fridge or is a washing machine?
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  Speaker 4: All your essentials?
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  Speaker 5: Dang, that's all you know? Well, I think the washing
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  Speaker 5: machine needs to be an instrument on the next album.
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  Speaker 2: There's a band that Colin and I listened to where
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  Speaker 2: one of the there's a guy uh or the guy
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  Speaker 2: that is like in the band for like, the percussive
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  Speaker 2: part of the song was a guy banging on like
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  Speaker 2: a washing machine or maybe it was like an old
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  Speaker 2: was it washing machine?
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  Speaker 4: Colin?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a washing machine. They pick it up.
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  Speaker 5: They would pick up a washing machine as they would tour,
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  Speaker 5: so like they would just check like Facebook, marketplace and
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  Speaker 5: pick up a washing machine and then bang it.
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  Speaker 3: And just a bang on that. For that one specific song,
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  Speaker 3: it was pretty coo.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty DIY. Some friends of mine there
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  Speaker 4: their first rec they had a song called trash Can
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  Speaker 4: and it was just a trash canlet that they like
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  Speaker 4: they would hit as like a percussive instrument that.
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  Speaker 5: Sounds very slip knot like his addressed as a clown.
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  Speaker 4: As well, or no, I wish it was like it's
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  Speaker 4: very it's rock, it's like Americana Hell yeah, indie rock. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about how you even got into music,
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  Speaker 2: even before you got into local natives, Like what what
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  Speaker 2: got you inspired to just even play music to begin with?
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  Speaker 4: I honestly don't remember time. Music wasn't part of my life.
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  Speaker 4: There was like a piano in my house, and I
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  Speaker 4: kind of just taught myself how to play the piano.
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  Speaker 4: And then after I taught myself, that put me in lessons.
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  Speaker 4: My dad was in a band when I when I
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  Speaker 4: was a kid, I got eighties hair eighties hair metal band.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, your dad and my dad should hang out.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of Yeah, a lot of these dads
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  Speaker 4: should hang out. Yeah. So that was like, I guess
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  Speaker 4: the introduction, But I like I was music. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I played the end of my whole life. And then
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  Speaker 4: high school started joining New Junior high just like start
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  Speaker 4: joining bands, worship band. That was definitely like my first,
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  Speaker 4: like from junior high to college. Yeah, just like you know,
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  Speaker 4: you're playing.
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  Speaker 2: Every worship band and your dad was in the eighties
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  Speaker 2: hair metal band is your dad?
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  Speaker 4: And Striper No, but he's a big Michael Sweet fan
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  Speaker 4: of course. Yeah, he's always telling about his new album.
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  Speaker 5: How many of those have you listened to?
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  Speaker 4: U zero this century? But I do remember in the nineties,
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  Speaker 4: my parents were very just back to your your tweet
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  Speaker 4: that connected us to your coffee shop Christian tweet that one.
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  Speaker 4: But my parents and one of my bandmates, one of
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  Speaker 4: my guest friends you talked about, who said, Nate Pargazzi
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  Speaker 4: has this bit where was like I grew up Christian
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  Speaker 4: in the nineties, which was like the most Christian.
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  Speaker 3: And my parents more than Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a part in the nineties where my
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  Speaker 4: parents were so Christian that they got rid of all
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  Speaker 4: my CDs and then you have to go to like
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  Speaker 4: the Christian bookstore, like if you like blinkin eighty two,
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  Speaker 4: you might like Reliant K or something like, and there
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  Speaker 4: was like all these things. Oh, because the last time
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  Speaker 4: I listened to the reason I noticed I got the
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  Speaker 4: singer of Striper's solo album in the nineties because I
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  Speaker 4: was forced to throw away my Beatles and my Zeppelin.
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  Speaker 5: And even your Beatles records.
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  Speaker 4: Have you listened to? Have you? Have you listened to those? Backwards?
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  Speaker 4: Pretty pretty demonic.
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  Speaker 5: They're demonic going forwards too.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you knew, but yeah, Revolution nine.
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  Speaker 4: But I remember going to this bookstore and like, it's like,
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  Speaker 4: if you like and I think, if you like Real
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  Speaker 4: big Fish, you might like Michael Sweet from Streiper his
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  Speaker 4: solo album, which which there is no correlation.
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  Speaker 5: No, no that whatsoever.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So growing up in that kind of household, you have
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  Speaker 5: a whole lot of other things that were throwing out
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  Speaker 5: because they were too of the world or anything of
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  Speaker 5: that sort.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, Like it was very christ very a lot
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  Speaker 4: of movies and TV shows and remember Simpsons and Harry
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  Speaker 4: Potter was all very There was a moment where it's
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  Speaker 4: like this is really, yes, the work of the devil.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and waging a spiritual war.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, a secret war Pokemon. I remember that was the
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  Speaker 4: one I was just gonna say, can't do that. I yes,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't even think about that.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, Christmas one year, the one thing I wanted
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  Speaker 5: were these Pikachu slippers, and I wanted them so bad,
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  Speaker 5: and my grandma got them for me and I opened
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  Speaker 5: them up on Christmas. My mom immediately threw them in
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  Speaker 5: the trash because they were demonic because it's a pocket monster.
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  Speaker 4: Was this a bigger theme than I guess I realized,
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  Speaker 4: like a lot of kids.
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  Speaker 5: And oh, I think, I think, especially where Mason and
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  Speaker 5: I are from, it was very big. Yeah, but you
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  Speaker 5: grew up in California as well.
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  Speaker 4: I grew up in San Diego, so southern California.
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  Speaker 5: And okay, yeaheah.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like any I think like anybody who grew
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  Speaker 2: up like a youth group culture in the nineties and
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  Speaker 2: two thousands especially can really attest to like that type
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  Speaker 2: of story regardless of where they live, whether it's the South,
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  Speaker 2: the Midwest, out West, it doesn't matter, like it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be kind of the same universal experience.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Nate Pargossi is talking about it. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 4: that was that was like childhood and music. But the
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  Speaker 4: whole point was like in high school, okay, like eased
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  Speaker 4: up a little bit or I could start sneaking stuff
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  Speaker 4: and that's when I started like joining high school bands
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  Speaker 4: and terrible dance.
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  Speaker 5: And what was your what was your gateway drug into
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  Speaker 5: the secular world again.
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  Speaker 4: It was definitely emo music. It was like and I
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  Speaker 4: still ride for him, and I've like said this publicly
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  Speaker 4: and I have like friends who like playing his records,
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  Speaker 4: but like Connor Oberst and like Bright Eyes was like
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  Speaker 4: my yeah, my huge one. Like I think he's a genius.
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  Speaker 4: I was like and then and then it was like
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  Speaker 4: a tree of like high school emo music. And then like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I can listen to the White Album as a seventeen
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  Speaker 4: year old and I was that kind of blew my
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  Speaker 4: mind and because I was all thrown away.
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  Speaker 5: Before, Oh man, that hurts my soul.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we we all, we all survived. And
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm talking to a friend about a
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  Speaker 4: similar upbringing and her upbringing was even more religious and
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  Speaker 4: she's a well adjusted, great artist. I'm just like this,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, it's kind of kind of amazing that
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  Speaker 4: you can go through that for you do have to
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  Speaker 4: play as you.
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  Speaker 5: Have to play a little bit of catch up though,
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  Speaker 5: you know. But I do kind of have like a
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  Speaker 5: little bit of jealousy around certain things like that, because
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  Speaker 5: you know, a lot of people discover music and movies
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  Speaker 5: and things like that in their high school years, and
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  Speaker 5: for a lot of people, especially if you grew up
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  Speaker 5: in the nineties or the early two thousands in a
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  Speaker 5: very Christian household, you you probably weren't exposed to any
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  Speaker 5: of it, so you had kind of like this delayed
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  Speaker 5: gratification of like getting to see and experience all like
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  Speaker 5: the coolest things in the world with like a more
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  Speaker 5: mature mind.
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  Speaker 4: You know. Yeah, yeah, I guess so yeah, yeah, you
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  Speaker 4: can like kind of experience it for the first time
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  Speaker 4: as like an adult or not like an adolescent or
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  Speaker 4: something versus this is just normal, right yeah, yeah, awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Uh well I'm curious then, like what maybe even right
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  Speaker 2: before Local Natives, Like what kind of got you maybe
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  Speaker 2: to eventually get into local Natives?
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  Speaker 3: Like were you in touring bands before then? Were you in.
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  Speaker 2: Bands that recorded previously, Like because I would imagine you
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  Speaker 2: don't go just straight from like just your you know,
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  Speaker 2: local generic high school band to playing in a band
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  Speaker 2: like local Natives at that point.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, like so yeah, high school bad bands,
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  Speaker 4: and then I guess college I was. I started my
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  Speaker 4: own project, which I did for a few years, and
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  Speaker 4: then honestly, like for like five years trying to think
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  Speaker 4: big timeline, like four or five years. I was just
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  Speaker 4: like in so many touring and recording bands and just
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  Speaker 4: some I'm like really proud of, and some are like
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  Speaker 4: known bands, but yeah, just like I don't know, it's
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  Speaker 4: like a the cliched l a experience, but just like
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  Speaker 4: you're kind of like a hired gun or then becoming
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  Speaker 4: friends and they're like, all right, you want to help
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  Speaker 4: on this record? And then but yeah, so I was
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  Speaker 4: in a ton of ton of bands. Uh, Morning Venders
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  Speaker 4: was the one that turned into pop et Cetera was
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  Speaker 4: the one right before and Rooney Tape, Deck Mountain, the Sands,
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  Speaker 4: the Howls. I'd have to really go through my desography.
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  Speaker 4: There was a ton.
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  Speaker 5: So how did how did? How did the fellows from
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  Speaker 5: local natives discover you? And uh and take you under
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  Speaker 5: their wing?
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  Speaker 4: We were like in similar friend circles, but we didn't
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  Speaker 4: really know each other. And one of my bands had
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  Speaker 4: played a show that one of them DJ and like
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  Speaker 4: on the peak first record that Gorilla Manner and then
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  Speaker 4: and they parted ways at the end of Griller Manor
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  Speaker 4: with their founding based bass player, and then they had
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  Speaker 4: a touring a dude fill in so that he's like
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: play random shows while they're making their next record, Hummingbird,
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  Speaker 4: and that guy he's he's a really good friend of
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  Speaker 4: mine and he kept like just giving me stuff. He's
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  Speaker 4: like I used to he used to be in Rooney
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  Speaker 4: and then he did something. I was like, hey, do
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  Speaker 4: you want to be in Rooney? And then he's in
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  Speaker 4: a band called Fidbar, which is like this kind of
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  Speaker 4: punk band, and they were taking off and they were like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: do you want to tour with us? And he's like,
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  Speaker 4: I would love to, but I really want to see
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  Speaker 4: my band through. And then they'd like kind but he's like,
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  Speaker 4: we should get my homie Nick. And they were just
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  Speaker 4: kind of trying people out, and I did like a
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  Speaker 4: tryout and we were vibing. It was more like I
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  Speaker 4: don't know, like a Tinder date or something like obviously
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  Speaker 4: like everyone everybody who's trying.
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  Speaker 5: Out a good time at the under One.
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  Speaker 4: There was not. It was you know, it was a
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  Speaker 4: respect to ball t ender day because like everyone's like
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  Speaker 4: the second date, right, yeah, yeah, everyone's trying out, can
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  Speaker 4: like play the like everyone's good, you know, So it's
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  Speaker 4: like more like the right vibe can you a lot
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  Speaker 4: of touring like you play ninety minutes a day of
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  Speaker 4: music on average, and like twenty two hours of chilling
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  Speaker 4: and hanging out, and so like the the vibe is
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  Speaker 4: kind of more important than so it's it's.
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  Speaker 5: More of like a hinge date. That is what you're
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  Speaker 5: trying to say.
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  Speaker 4: I dated, I got married before all the dates took off.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know the difference between.
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  Speaker 5: See the same same here, but I do know that
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  Speaker 5: hinge is where like the serious people.
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  Speaker 4: Go like gotcha there, like you're finding out a life partner. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think that their slogans like designed to be deleted or.
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  Speaker 4: Something, Yeah, gotcha, And then there's other ones like designed
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  Speaker 4: to hook up or something, yeah gotcha. Yeah, So it's
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  Speaker 4: a hinge date. Nice, My references are off.
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  Speaker 5: So we talk about this all the time on here.
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  Speaker 5: One of the things that we keep hearing is that
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  Speaker 5: it you really have to be a good hang, because,
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  Speaker 5: as you said, everyone's good, everyone's if you're trying out
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  Speaker 5: for a band, everyone's already good. Anyway, it comes down
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  Speaker 5: to are you a good hang? Can we stand to
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  Speaker 5: be around you for twenty hours a day or something
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  Speaker 5: like that? Right?
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  Speaker 4: For touring? Absolutely? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: And then and then there's also like an artistic wavelength,
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  Speaker 4: and I feel like we were on a similar one.
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  Speaker 4: So it was very I wasn't expecting, but I was
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  Speaker 4: very quickly there, like I was a touring member, and
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  Speaker 4: then very quick they're like you do you guys? Do
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  Speaker 4: you want to join us? Man?
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  Speaker 5: So when you say the same artistic wavelength, like what
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  Speaker 5: is that? How would you more how would you go
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  Speaker 5: into better detail about how to describe that?
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  Speaker 4: I mean it.
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  Speaker 5: Does lock in well, it's yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, like especially I think tours a good breeding ground,
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  Speaker 4: especially if we were in our young twenties. But just
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: like why you think why you like this new music?
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: I think Sergeant Pepper's is overrated? Or like why you
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: really were into like Kida but not okay computer like
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  Speaker 4: just like getting into Nybie and a lot of it's
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: like new music. It's like stuff that's going on in
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  Speaker 4: pop culture right now. You're like, why do you like
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  Speaker 4: or not like the Playboy Party record or something, and
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  Speaker 4: it's just like.
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  Speaker 3: Damn it really is.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean this is like I'm talking like fourteen
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  Speaker 4: months to do that. But like you're like you're realizing
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  Speaker 4: what you like, what you just like what the other
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  Speaker 4: person likes how to push some or like and then
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  Speaker 4: for me it was like I was like I wasn't
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: a part of the band, but I was like, all right,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: the set change, the set list needs to change, because
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: like this song into this song could be better, like
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: go like this and like like anything artistic or creative
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: vision when it's collaborative, like you're you're trying to convince
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: each other in some sense and compromise and like you're
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: all trying to like make what you guys think is
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: the best song, the best concert, the best T shirt
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: design or whatever it is. It's like, and we're like
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: a very collaborative band, So I think down process, we
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: all kind of like, okay, this is a good sit Yeah.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: As a band, Yeah, Local Natives, in my opinion, has
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: always been very complex with textures and things of that sort.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: And so I guess when you said artistic wavelength, I've
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: always just kind of wondered when you start playing new
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: music with somebody or like, like you're like you're trying
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: to create something new for the first time, do you
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: feel like it's like like you you like you just
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: speak the same language and everything just locks into like
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: the same like a kind of like a hive mind
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: almost kind of a situation or like what happens then
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: when you have like disagreements about a base tone or
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: something like that.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: I honestly feel like we've rarely achieved high mentality, very
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: like you're arguing over a based melody or like a
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: just a detail, but like it's it's tough to explain,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: but it's just like you're there. I'll take the conversation
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: away from even like being the new guy like I could.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: I can remember instances on our last record doing the
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: same thing, and it's just like, technically we can make
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: a song, but maybe it's not what we all want
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: it to be. Like there's all the parts, but like
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: something's not right, and it's all of us are trying
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: to figure that out together, and we have different opinions
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: on why that is. We're like, all right, what if
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: we make like a just embrace like seventies drum sounds?
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Is that a thing we want to do? And half
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: of us like yeah, and two of us are like no,
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Like all right, well what if we try to a
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: drum machine? Like we're all trying to like find that
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: to get other And I think looking back is a
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: little bit easier to see that making a record, I
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: think you're very easily lost in the vortex. But there
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: are like ten poles and references. But I can look
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: back now and be like, Okay, something that you since Hummingbird,
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: Aaron Destner and Layer and stuff or Yoleu Street experimentation
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: in seventies. Like it's easier now years away from it
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: as opposed to like in the middle of it, when
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: we're all kind of like figuring out what we want
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: this thing to do.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I want to kind of go back on
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: the point really quick on just being kind of like
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: a good hang almost being like just such a huge
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: part of why certain people get picked in bands. And
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: it just reminds me of I see you have a
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: it looks like a Stanley Cup Finals had on. So
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I'm guessing, I'm guessing your sports fan of some sort
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: or is that just anesthetic?
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: This is all aesthetic because I don't know hockey at all,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: but I love basketball and football fair enough.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Well if you're a basketball fan.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: So I was watching this podcast episode with Lebron James
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: and he was talking about how there are guys in
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: the NBA and I would imagine, like every sport has this,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: But there are guys in the NBA who make an
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: entire career making millions of dollars where they will probably
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: never play more than like ten games a year. But
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: the reason why they continue to be on teams year
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: after year after year and making millions of dollars is
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: because they're the good guy to have in the building.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Like they're the guy that the team just by the Yeah,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: they're they're the guy like even like with the like
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: the the.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Building staff, Like they're the that's the guy that's like
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: picking up trash so that the.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Janitor doesn't have to in the building.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Like it's those are the kind of guys that Lebron
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: James has said, Like, those guys, even though they might
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: not be the most talented, they will make an entire
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: career in the NBA just because they're the guy that
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: like will pick up after themselves, or they're the guy
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: that like make sure that like when somebody else in
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: the building, you know, maybe their their daughter is sick,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: and like he gets the A card. Like those are
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: the kind of guys that stick around for a long
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: time even if they're not super talented. And so it's
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: it's something to be said about like if you're just
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: like a good hang, just a good person like that
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: really will take you places in life. And obviously you
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: need to have some level of talent, right like you
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: are a talented basis, and lots of musicians who are
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: in these incredible bands that we all love, they're incredible
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: musicians right at the end of the day.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: But also like being.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Like a good person is going to get you in
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: a lot of places in life and give you a
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: lot of really cool opportunities.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Totally. I mean, like I guess that example is so great.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: I just read this athletic piece this morning about PJ.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Tucker on the Knicks, and he's like this that who's
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: like forty, he's washed. I love him. He was on
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: the Clippers, my team, but like he's definitely has no
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: basketball substance to get a team. But he was brought
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: into the team and there was this whole like long
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: article just like having these team old only meetings, and
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: he was like talking to the stars and like you
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: got play better defensive, so you got communicate this way.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: And he literally did not play like more than like
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: sixty seconds in the playoffs, but he was so crucial
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: to the team, like you know, like in sometime in
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: the sense like a band as a team, or like
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: I've never had like a real job, but I gotta imagine,
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: like I don't know, if you're an accountant, there's like
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: a team like you guys want to do something together.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: So I think I think it kind of could relate
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: to a lot of stuff, like obviously you have to
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: be a good accountant. This dude I'm talking about he
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: can shoot threes like great, but then he's like a
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: one percentage point off of like like whatever, like a
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: prime NBA player should shoot it, or like yeah, me
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: or many people in bands, like when I tried off
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: with me is there's so many people who could play
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: the same notes I played correctly, But obviously it wasn't
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: just about that.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: It reminds me of like I just saw like maybe
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: maybe this is actually a quote, but I saw like
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: a tweet the other day that was like marriage isn't
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: actually a fifty to fifty relationship, It's a sixty to
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: forty relationship. And the trick is to see the trick
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: is to try to be the person that's doing the
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: sixty percent.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: And I'm like again, like I think it kind of
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: you know relates to Yeah, like if you're just like
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: the person that's gonna work hard and do like everything
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: the right way, like you're going to get in places
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: in life. And whether that yeah, is a band like
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Local Natives or an accounting firm or the NBA, like
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: if you're that kind of or even a marriage, Like,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: if you're that kind of person, it's just gonna work
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: hard and do the right thing, like you're gonna you're
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: gonna get the opportunities that you should deserve.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I can only speak from my experience.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: I can't speak for all humans, but it's just like
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: like that, there's also like I I see like like
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: like a lot of unfair hands dealt and a lot
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: of it is luck and be in the right place
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: at the right time, but also like you know, having
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: the skills and tools to do that stuff when that
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: opportunity comes, like you know you're ready to go.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm love it.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about the new album came out last April, now, right,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: and so yeah, what love to just kind of hear
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: were there like certain things on this album that maybe
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: you guys were trying to experiment with or trying to
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: do something maybe a little new that y'all haven't maybe
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: tried before.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: This last record. We kind of talked about the one
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: right before it came out the year before as.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Well, less like less than a year apart, right.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there were like ten nine months apart.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: They were all made together, so it's basically how I
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: view it. It's like a double album that got split
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: up and then we put them out in pieces, and
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: it was definitely a transition time in the career or
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: in the arc of the band. I think the record
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: before I feel like, I don't know if every artist
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: says this, but every record is kind of like a
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: conversation or reflection of the record before. So like Violets
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Street felt very maximalist and very experimental and one of
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: my favorite albums records I've ever made. Incredibly proud of it.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: But it was a lot, and so we were like,
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: all right, let's try to do like everybody's playing one thing,
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: like a classic Beatles record or something. So that was
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: like the North Star for a while. We're just like,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: all right, let's just let the song speak for themselves
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: and keep it classic and not like a ton of
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: sans a wild experimentation. So the second part, but A
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Way for You is just like the second half of
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: that or like they're they're kind of all one thing. Yeah,
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: and that was also the last record that Kelsey was
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: a part of and had like a tough time getting
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: back together. He spoke pretty candidly about it. We did
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: on the first record, and I think part of the
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: music you can hear too is just like us trying
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: to keep it together, the five of us. And I
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: think I can hear very specific parts or tension between
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: us when I hear it. I don't imagine everyone can
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: hear that, but it is like it is like the
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: end of an era. So we we put that record
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: out before like the public unit it Kelsey was quitting,
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: and then we announced it soon afterwards.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, do you want to speak on that a little
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: bit more about where you plan to go without Kelsey?
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we were kind of this is like
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: his choice, and we love them and we support them,
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: and so this was just choice to leave. And having
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: said that, like we're kind of just viewing it now,
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: it's like, I don't know, an opportunity is like a
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: like a reset of the band, Like all right, like
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: let's rethink how we make music, and I feel like
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: a lot of us it's tough as you get older.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: I feel like time will come first all the title,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: but you don't really want to get in ruts like
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: this is how you make a record. You do the drums,
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: then you do the bass, and then you say it
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: like that's once you get formulaic. It's it's a pretty
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: bad place to be, Like no one's making their their
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: best work in that spot. And so this is like
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: an unexpected mix up. But we're like, I mean, we're
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: sorry working on the new record, and there's so many
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: songs I'm excited about and our band is so let's
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: talking about it so democratic, so like it's very little
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: like all right, you play the guitar because you're the guitar,
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: but you play it like there's so many songs. I
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: don't play bass, and I played all the keys on
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: or something, or like someone will write a chorus and
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: someone will write the verse or anyways, it's like it's
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: a band. So there's there's so much music that we've
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: already put out where it's like, all right, three of
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: us made this song, and then two people made that one,
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: and then four of us minus this other dude was
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: part of this, Like, so we're already kind of in
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: a weird sense, We've made a lot of songs without Kelsey.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: They've made a lot of songs where I haven't played
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: on it, so because we just want the best song
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: and we're trying to get like our egos out of
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: the way of like, okay, now I need to come
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: on and fix the space part, you know when that's
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: probably just my ego speaking, So it's less about even Kelsey.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: But it's like we've made music and so many different
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: configurations in this band already that we've done. We've made
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: songs without Cals, and we're well, we're gonna make a
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: whole record now without you know, is that kind.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: Of a daunting or scary experience?
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: From from your point of view, you know, when you
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: take off one major piece of you know, an original
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: or original member of the band, does that feel like
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: it's like WHOA do we kind of have to like
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: look for a different kind of identity here or do
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: you feel like this this is just business as usual
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: and we're gonna you know, we miss him, but.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: You know, yeah, no, I don't feel it doesn't feel
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: daunting or overwhelming in the slightest like made it's not
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: even about him. But it's like we've made a lot
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: of music without him, He's made music without me. Like
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: it's just like I can remember very specific songs that
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: he wasn't a big part of, and there's a lot
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: of songs I wasn't a big part of. So it
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: doesn't it doesn't feel like this massive scary thing in
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: a sense, but kind of an exciting tier. I don't know,
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: we've made music. I think it's more just like, all right,
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: and I love him, He's gonna be my brother forever.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: It's much less about him and much more like what
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: we would do this part of an album cycle already.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: It's like, all right, we're working on music, and like
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: I see it the threat between those two. But I
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: don't I don't know if I want to make that
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: record or like we're all just in that stage right now.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: We're trying to like figure out what we want to make,
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: which is a pretty normal, sure part of our process.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, it sounds like because he wasn't like the primary songwriter,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: but because you all sort of equally had that responsibility,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: it sounds like, you know, because you know Obviously, losing
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: any member is going to change some artistic direction to
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: some degree. But it doesn't sound like because he wasn't
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: the primary songwriter that it's not like you all are
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: going to now start to become like a punk band
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: or whatever. Right, My guess is it's still going to
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: be very distinctively local natives.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure you can. You'll hear a lot of
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: through lines from previous records. I mean, he was a
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: primary songwriter or on some so a lot of songs,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: but we're there's there were like three primary songwriters, so
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: there's just it wasn't like yeah, like I'm trying to
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: think of an example. Yeah, I don't know, like when
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: like the singer of a band and it's basically just
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: like if Kevin Parker quit Tam and Pault, like that'd
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: be done. Yeah, it ceased to exist, but we were
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: like a band. Love it.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I know you all it looks like you
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: only have like maybe like one show coming up here soon.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: But I'm guessing you've done it kind of most of
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: the touring of this previous album. But yeah, are you
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: kind of hoping to get out on the road again
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: sometime soon? I mean Also it sounds like you guys
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: are writing, So yeah, what's kind of the future of
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: the band right now?
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: We're only go like a handful of shows this year,
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: which is kind of like a normal we call it
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: the album cycle, but like we put out put Away
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: for You last year, away from that one the year before,
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: so it was like it was and then we kind
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: of do like a post covid our first tour back
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: like right before that record. So it's felt like a
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: two and a half almost three year album cycle of touring.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: So it's pretty natural for us to go away for
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: a while and just play a handful of shows and
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: festivals while we're like working on a record, because those
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: are wildly different parts of like the like once you're
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: touring is very hard to like be creative or like
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: make music. We'll do it in mad respect to them,
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: but I guess maybe as a band, so we're we're
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: just focusing on a new record and I had to guess,
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: you know, it comes out next year and we tour
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: next year.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, is there a part of the album process with
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: that whole album cycle that you're talking about, Is there
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: a part that maybe is like your favorite part, Like,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: is it the actual creation of the album. Is it
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: the promotion of it? Is it the is it the shows?
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Like do you have just like you personally have a
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: favorite part of that cycle?
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: I don't it feel like such a cop out. I
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: really love recording. I love creating just in general. But
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: I really and this is like a man made cycle.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: So it's not like it's like this this uh ornated
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: like thing that came down from the guy, like this
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: is God telling us like how you're supposed to tour music.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: But I do appreciate, like it is like I have
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: so much fun coming up with promotion. I'm so involved
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: with that, have like a small label myself, so like
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: I really like doing that type of stuff. And then
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: we talked about it a bit. But like when COVID hit,
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: anyone was touring, and then the after COVID tours, like
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: we all came back. We hadn't played shows in so
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: many months and years. Made us at least us as
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: a band, and me myself like realized, like, oh, music
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: is communal. It's not just like making something I think
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: is so sick with my boys or by myself fun
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: a computer like like realizing like oh, there's like sounds
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: a crystal through through, but it's like there is like
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: an energy being shared. It's like I can't put my
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: I've played thousands of shows and I can't put my
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: finger on what creates like good energy in a room.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: But you know it when you feel it. They know
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: when you feel it, and other shows like you every great,
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: but something's just off and it's just like a disconnect
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: with the audience or vice versa. Anyways, I'm giving you,
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: I'm explaining audi answer all the stages that I really
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: appreciate them all and then I feel like and then
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: after a long tour, I can't wait to be home
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: and not tour and sure more fun stuff Again, that
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: does leave.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: Me to do like a different question, and that's when
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: you walk up on the stage for the first time,
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: do you automatically know like it can they immediately read
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: the room and know what is got a happened that night?
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: Like how the crowd is going to respond? Or do
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: you like viewed as like a challenge you like I'm
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: gonna win you over something like that?
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Or we talk about that like we've done a handful
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: of like opening and it's like opening you there's like
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: a you're trying to convert. You're trying to make believers,
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: You're trying to convert people, and so that's like a
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: whole different beast, but we'll like analyze. Definitely, it's tough.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, opening gigs are tough and I feel bad.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: We have a lot of amazing openers, but it's like
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: we open for like The National and Kings Leon and
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: like these really big bands and it's like half full
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: in front and like people are getting their wine and
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: like like they're not really paying attention. But then you
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: can like, oh, this one song, I feel like the
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: energy shifted and they I don't know, we got more
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: Instagram followers at night, like you can like see something.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: Well, you already said enough, you already said enough. That
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: that you that you said that they're getting their wine.
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: You know what kind of you know, what kind of
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: crowd you're playing to if they're getting their wine instead of.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Their best National that's definitely not Kings Leon. But we
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: will talk like even our own shows, like headlining, like
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: you go out first song and then you're like uh oh,
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: and then like like this is us debriefing after show?
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: Its like and then when we played like wide ice Forth,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: I feel like something shifted and then we had them,
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: and then they were with us. Yeah, even like a
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: show can start average or below, like it's no indicator
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: where it will go or vice versa, or it's like
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: it's like hitting hard out of the gates, but it's
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: a Tuesday night and people are dwindling at the end
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: because it's a random Tuesday night and is raining.
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: And yeah, yeah, so with with Local Natives, I mean
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: Local Natives had a lot of success even before you
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: were in the band, and so there was kind of
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: a built in, a built in audience to a certain extent.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: Have you you ever had just like an awful experience
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: playing a live show?
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Oh my god?
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: And what what would that be?
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I think they're mostly private gigs, like we like everyone,
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: every once in a while, someone with a goodly amount
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: of money of wealth, like, hey, can you guys want
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: to play this wedding?
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: Or this a wedding?
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: Holy shit, a wedding?
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like when they ask you to play a wedding,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: are they asking you to play local native.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Songs or covers?
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Like are they basically like trying to get like the
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: best wedding band cover band ever?
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: No, the it's and it's so like so like I
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: remember that, like the the couple, like the person was
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: so rich, they flew so like amazing crazy wedding. The
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: couple loved us as a band, and maybe like ten
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: other friends. It's and so they were stoked out of
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: their mind. But then like like one hundred and ninety
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: people had no idea who we were. They're older, they
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: didn't care, they're like their ants. Like so it's like
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: maybe like I don't know, fifteen people were stoked, but
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: just like some mid tempo indie rock after the first
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: dance wasn't reaching everybody. This is I mean, yeah, play
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Dancing Queen totally. Most most of the horrible ones are
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: like Privates or my bands before, where you're just like
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: you're playing to the other three bands.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, there is something about I. I you know,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: you talk about like opening for the National but so
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Culin and I are really into like heavy music, punk music,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: and then obviously lots of indie stuff. There is something
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: about like going to like an indie show right where
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: even if you're like the biggest fan of that band,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: there's a certain kind of energy that you have where
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: it's a lot of you know, just like you're swaying
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: or you know, like I'm a huge like Explosions in
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: the Sky fan, and I've gone to a number of their shows,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: and it's like, you know, what do you do other
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: than just stand and like just kind of like this
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: is cool. Whereas like if you're at a punk show
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: or a metal show, like you're participation. You're like, even
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: if you're not even in the mosh pit, there's like
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of like weird dancing or what like
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: the but there's some sort of energy that like it's
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: very clear, just very visibly clear that wow, these people
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: are into it. And a lot of that is because
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: of you know, when it comes to like punk or
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: metal shows, like the band like entire I mean, there's
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: times where like the singer will be out there mashing
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: with the fans or whatever.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Right, And what.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: I've always loved about The National is they bring almost
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: this like punk rock ethos to their live shows. Obviously
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: they don't sound anything like a punk band, but you know,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: like Matt will often be in the crowd doing punk rock.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Singer kind of shit.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: Uh totally, And that's.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Something I've always loved about a band like The National,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: And they're one of my favorites ever. But yeah, I'm
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: just curious like for you, like, is that something that
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: you guys have thought about, like knowing that Okay, yep,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: we're an indie band. We're not ever gonna be like
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: a punk band that's gonna have that kind of energy
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: at a show, but like, has there like been thoughts
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: about like how do we maybe incorporate that type of
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: crowd participation or how do you incorporate that kind of wait,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: like that type of energy into a lip show.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: We say that we asked that question as Mason and
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: I have never yet had the chance to see you, So.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: That's true, that's true, Okay, yeah, yeah, I mean you're
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: bringing up Matt from the National and we've played like
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: a ton of shows with them, like the tours with them.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: They've always been so supportive socially. Baron produced our second record.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: We we definitely were inspired by him and one of
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: our singers. We'll go in the crowd in a similar way,
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: and it's very much Matt bearing er influence because we're
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: like this harmony heavy, beautiful indie music. So yeah, we'll
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: do that a little bit.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Nice, nice, Yeah, I love, I mean it's It's always
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: a little like disappointing when you see an indie band
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: and they just they're just standing up there playing their
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: songs the best that they can and like, you know, respect,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: like that's one way of doing a show. But again,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: maybe I've just been like so so influenced or so
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: we've been tainted man, maybe yeah, maybe yeah, tainted or
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: brainwashed by punk music. That like my expectation is if
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go to a show that either myself
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: is going to get on stage or the like one
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: of the musicians better be coming down off the stage
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: into the crowd. That's just yeah, I don't know, I
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: just have been so tainted by that.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: We I mean, we've played like I don't know, I
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: feel like we're like we're definitely an Indian band, but
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: we've like open for like National Kings of Leon and
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: like Paramore, and I feel like or like even this
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: weekend we're doing a festival and Ziggie Marley's playing right
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: after us. I feel like all all those different artists.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know if everyone does this, like we try
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: to like skew our set towards that like what we
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: think those fans would like, you know, like we're not
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: we're not doing covers, but it's like, all right, let's
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: let's play our most high BPM songs on this h
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: this paramore stuff, and then like let's get very beautiful
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: on this National. Like it's just like you kind of
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: skew it that way. That makes sense. Yeah, I don't
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: know if everybody does that in the opening slaws or
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: if it's like this is our thing.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: I've seen the National play and opening for them was
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: Lord Huron and it was a very similar kind of situation. Uh,
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: you know, there was a I don't know, like a
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: four minute Theoremon solo before the National, But I've also
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: seen Lord Huron without the National and there was no
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: Theoremon solo. Right. Uh, do you guys? Do you guys
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: ever try to like one up other bands like Seek secretively?
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: Maybe I don't know.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, we don't open a ton, but it is like,
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: I don't know, you're trying to back to religion. You
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: are trying to make believers and convert people, and I
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: feel like there's like a little sportsmanship is like we're
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: we're trying to steal your fans, but you can be
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: a fan of There's not like a limited amount of
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: artists you can be a fan of. So I was
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: just like, we're trying to I don't know, take these people.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, I mean there is a I mean,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: obviously there's lots of ways to convert somebody to liking
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: your music. I mean, honestly, a lot of It's like
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: for me, it's like word of mouth. Like if I
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: just see that there's a lot of hype going on
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: about one particular album or band or whatever, I'm like, well,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: I guess I have no other choice but to be
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: interested or at least, like, you know, take a listen.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: But another one another way of that is if I
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: see an opening band and I'm just like memorized by
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: memorized by it. I'm just like this has got like
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: I've gotta I gotta figure out what these are all about.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Like that's another way to convert me as well.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I like we've had so many sick openers
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: and as like the headliner. I always like love when
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: they're like amazing and like crushing, because I feel like
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: it's just like making the night so much better, Like
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: you know, it's just like this people are getting their
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: money's worth, Like this is like awesome.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: It sounds like, yeah, a little bit of an off
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: year for shows, but new music at some point. I'm
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: guessing you know you'll be recording, or it sounds like
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: you certainly are writing, but I'm sure recording some point
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: this year and yeah, next year getting the album out.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Are we ready for top five?
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: Culin, Let's do it.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: Let's do it? Okay, Nick?
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: You ready for your top five most influence albums?
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: You know I should have thought about this more. I'm
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: gonna go in. Some of these are recycled on other
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: lists I've done. Blonde by Frank Ocean is just the best,
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: the best album at the last a few decades or something.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: Anyone who knows me already knows that.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: It's just like, yeah, I don't know, has he done
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: anything lately. I feel like I just haven't really been much.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: I feel like, no, he is. He's put out some
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: a lot of songs like five years ago, but nothing.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: That sounds about like the time.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Last time I heard about him was yeah, yeah, so yeah,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: it looks like yeah, Blonde was his last like actual
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: studio album.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: No.
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: I don't want to make any judgments about you, but
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: I remember when that came out. It was every lady's
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: favorite album. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: it's a gendered album by any means, but.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean he's messing with the like
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: he I mean his record before, he like didn't really
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: want to talk about sexual like he's he's very you know,
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: pushing those boundaries without really wanting to talk about it.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, I don't know. I think he's a
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: musical genius. I feel like that album is so gorgeous
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: and so many like I've listened to, Like there's this
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: podcast called Dissect and like they break apart a record,
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: So I've listened to like a like the record a
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: million times, but like I've listened to this podcast, like
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: listen to like forty hours breaking down the podcast, and like, oh,
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: like there's so much intentionality in beauty in this record.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: I could even realize I needed help with It's gorgeous.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: It's a It's a perfect record for me.
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, love it?
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Another one another one twenty two a million by
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: Bonny Ver.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Oh oh yes, was that twenty yeah eighteen? Now was
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: when I came out.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: I think I was also twenty sixteen so a big year. Yeah,
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: well sixteen, yeah, or come I seventeen.
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: If I can add one thing to that. So you
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: you learned about Mason through his tweets. Mason uh became
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: Twitter famous. I don't know what may since six years ago,
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: seven years ago, something like that. But there's a there's
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: a tweet from forever ago and it's my all time
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: favorite tweet of Masons. Mason, do you remember it? Do
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: you want to say it?
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: So, like it's sort of like in parentheses it says, uh,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: dog sitting your hipsters like dog sitting for your hipster friend,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: and like quote end quotes, I say come get your bone.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: Ever okay, and it blew up on Twitter.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: It did not blow up at all.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: That was that was this is just your favorite.
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: Pre pre Twitter famous, but it was my favorite tweet
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: that Mason's ever had.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: No, I mean, this is what I keep referencing it.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: But I'm sure You've had a lot of moments. But
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: just like the I could spot something like a coffee
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: shop if it's like quasi Christian, Yeah, yeah, like I
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: could figure that out, like and know that spoke to
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: me and especially as a touring artist, I bet yeah.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of boniver though, like unbelievable band. So I'm
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: really stoked about the new album as well. I'm you know,
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: it just came out like a month or two ago.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: But yeah, he's kind of like going a little bit
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: back to the kind of acoustic e singer songwriter type
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: of roots.
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: I love the I love there's like a meme going
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: around right now where it's it's it's the dude from
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: Bonivere basically like explaining every song on his on his
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: most recent album, and he's like, this one is inspired
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: by like like music, if music was just like an
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: ethereal thought within your head that oh I saw.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: I saw that video too. It was so good.
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: It's so accurate because if you listen to like the
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: song Exploder episode with Boni Vere, it's just like that.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: It's what he broke down a song on the new record,
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: and that's what you're talking about.
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: So it's not actually him. It's a guy guy pretending
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: to be him, and like every song is just like
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: more ridiculous than the last in terms of how he's
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: explaining his thought process. It's it's so good, but it,
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, it is true. He definitely pulls from a
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: completely different box than I would say most artists do.
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, Yeah, that record in particular, I just
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't think it's a universally everyone's
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: favorite Bunny Bear record. But the glitchiness, like all the
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: kind of distorted electronics like it while he's like kind
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: of grappling with God and uh yeah, are we just
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: assignee meaning and all? Like the numerology Like I felt
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: that the artwork I thought was so so inspiring. Yeah,
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: it just felt so thought out and thought provoking. Yeah,
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: and more than just sonics and songwriting.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: A true musician, a true artist, like through and through,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: like that guy will do art for the rest of
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: his life, like whether it's music.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: Or something else.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: But he just seems like one of those people that's
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: going to live and die as an artist.
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, totally.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: So all right, that's the second one.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: Right, two. Yeah, I'm gonna also go with Pacific Ocean
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: Blue by Dennis Wilson.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know if I know who Dennis Wilson is.
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: I haven't heard this.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: He was in the Beach Boys. He died in the eighties. Okay,
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: he's the drummer of the Beach Boys.
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: He's the high pitched voice.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: Right, Nope, he's the lowest one.
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: He's the lowest one.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, kind of mixed up. It's not maybe even
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: my favorite Beach Boy thing, but it so. Then I
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: have a solo project and I covered that album in
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: its entirety from beginning to end, which isn't a plug
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: for that record, but it's just more than like this record.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: I don't know. It feels like a special, quintessential LA record.
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: And I remember the first time I heard it. I
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: remember like how like it like I listened to all
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: I'm sure everyone did, and especially being in this band,
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: all the Beach Boys stuff, and like how inspiring that
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: is for a harmony band like this. And then discover
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: this record and it's not like, yeah, it's not better
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: than Pet Sounds or anything, but it is like so
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: broken and so beautiful and feels so la and so
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: tragic if you put it out and didn't do well.
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: And then Brian, his brother who's a genius, kind of
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: like shit on it, and then he died before Brian's like, oh,
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: I should have been more encouraging of him. Ryan tragic
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: figure as well, No doubt anyways, that one's always been
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: like a special one for me.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at the the artwork and it's you know,
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: just a portrait of him, but it's reminding me of
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: a thought I had the other day. Was every guy
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: in like the sixties and seventies just naturally hairer than
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: every guy now. Like it's humble, like the amount of
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: men that And maybe it's just like a thing that's
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: just like selective because we only see the pictures of
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: like artists or whatever, and those guys were just you know,
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: having like cool ass mustaches or cool beards or whatever.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: But it just.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Seems like every dude back then, like it feels like
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: as a human species, over the last like fifty years,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: men in particular have just gotten less hairy, especially in
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: terms of Mason.
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: There was no low tea in the sixties.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: Was it was all the highest of teas. Like I
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: swear to god, every dude was just like either on
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: steroids or human growth hormones or something.
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: A lot of biotin. They're just they're just eating biotin.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if you guys have ever had
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: that thought, but just like, yeah, I mean, just even
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: looking at like photos of like old like Western guys
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: or whatever.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: It's just like.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Every dude had a mustache and also mustache, and you
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: just like never see guys that.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: Can have Yeah, just like, oh, how is that possible?
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: Because if you if you couldn't grow a mustache, then
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: you wouldn't you wouldn't make it in the movie, or
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: you wouldn't make it on the on the Olme cover.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: I guess. So it's just it's really unbelievable anyway. I
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: don't know, it's just the thought.
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: That's the fiest thing I've ever heard you say, those
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: are the thoughts that I have sometimes.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: All right, that's number three. What's number four?
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: I'm scrolling my phone right now to get this right.
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: I don't even know if it's I don't much when
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: I want to go with I feel like I want
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: to do a song. I don't know if that counts.
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: But it is from a record, and I don't know
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: the record as well, but it was it was Max
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: Richter The Blue Notebooks, which came out about like fifteen
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: years ago. But then there's this mashup of Dina Washington
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: Max Richtor this Bitter Earth like it's like a sixty
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: soul song that was put on top of this A
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: cuss shoally beautiful UIC. Yeah, I would encourage anyone who's
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: listening to it like this. I don't know. This song
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: is like the most I don't know, like the closest
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: I felt like to touching God or something like. It
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: is so beautiful and it's technically a remix. It's like
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: this sixties soul singer and this neoclassical music from fifteen
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: years ago.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: And who is it matched up with? So you said
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: Max Richter? And who.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: Washington?
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: Anything related to Dina Washington?
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: I'm in man, Yeah, dang, okay this Bitter Earth on
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: the slash on the nature of Daylight?
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, one did that?
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: One?
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: Did them?
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: You say, Max Richter? Was that?
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: Who was? Yeah? Okay, wait what's it? Yeah? Okay double shacking, Yeah.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right. It looks like maybe like two thousand
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: fourteen is when.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: It came out.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's so.
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: He like two thousand and nine or so. Okay, that's
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: when his record came out. I don't know when this
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: like remix was made, but it is.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: Oh, I see, I love it?
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Cool, Well that's a that's a I'm definitely gonna check
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: out the song. All right, so number one or the
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: last one or however you want to call it. But yeah,
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: what's uh?
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: What's uh? What's the album?
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: How many I got? I get four? Yeah, I feel
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: like they fucked this list up. There's so many I'm missing.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to pick a Neil Young record.
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: I don't know what's Oh, that's always tough, That's always tough. Yeah,
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: I love Young.
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: I think I don't want to be a basic pitch
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: and just pick Harvest.
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: But you gotta pick harvests, right, I might have.
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I would do like the Ditch trilogy
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: I love. I don't know. I'm giving. I know he
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: gave me a prompt and I keep pushing it to
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: this limit. But after the gold Rouse Harvest, but then
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: the disc trilogy, I like love just seventies Neil Young.
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: I'll go Harvest.
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: Okay, good call, good call.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: But I truly understand the difficulty of trying to narrow
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: it down for a Neil Young album.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: I feel like he has to be on my list,
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: like he's especially seventies Meal, I don't know, just a
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: brilliant songwriter. H Yeah, I.
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: Feel like he was. He was in a completely different
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: kind of like state of mind than most of his
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: contemporaries at that time. How do you feel about his
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: his legacy, in his in his his place in the
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: music world now, I guess.
• 57:56
  Speaker 7: I mean, I feel like it's I don't know if
• 57:59
  Speaker 7: it's it's tough to judge, Like he's made so many
• 58:03
  Speaker 7: records and a lot of them are not really good
• 58:06
  Speaker 7: as of late ye, and he's also been like pretty
• 58:12
  Speaker 7: political for a long time.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: And kind of write about a lot of things for
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: a long time. But I don't know if they even
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: translate to like, Okay, does a song slap or not? Though, right, yeah,
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: I feel like just kind of time well even that
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: stuff out, Like I feel, yeah, I feel like I
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: really messed with this stuff. Like the other person I
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: feel like I should have a person is Dylan. I
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: love Dylan and Neil Young are just like or Leonard Cohen,
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: I really mess it up, Like they're just like this
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: this this top bar for me, and their careers were
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: so long, like it's so hard to judge them at
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: different different points. But kind of I don't know, maybe
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: Leonard Cohen's the best. When like when you pass away
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: enough time passes, people start viewing it as a workup
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: thing and not like what your concert was like when
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: you're seventy six. Like that's that's kind of a not
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: a good way to like cement your legacy, you know.
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, from from from a guy who's from such a
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: harmony driven band, I'm surprised that you picked three guys
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: there who are definitely not known for being fantastic singers.
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: It's kind of interesting.
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm really like, I don't like good voices
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: or like beautiful.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: I'm with you, I'm with them.
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: I'm saying that, like I feel like everyone in my
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: band besides myself, has an amazing voice. Uh, Like I
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: get I just sing the high notes like I'm really
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: good at hitting the false settle anyways, Like I'm saying that,
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: and I know our music is so beautiful and a
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: lot of that's driven by the voices, but I don't
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: I'm not if someone can sing like very good and
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: this is so unfair, like Jeff Buckley singing hell yah
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: SIUs Leonard cohensing like one is clearly better. But like
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna gravitate towards Leonard like just I do too.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: You're not even a knock on Jeff and maybe it's
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: more a knock on, like I feel like he created
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: worship music or something, so maybe there's something else there.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: But anyways, I just I don't, I don't really like.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: But also Frank and Justin Vernon have beautiful voices, so
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: they're on the list.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: But that's true.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: By the way, Neil Young has an album coming out
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: next week.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: You could say that. You could say that, like every month.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: I'm still waiting on my I'm still waiting on my
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: shipment for my player.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: So yeah, you might be waiting for a while. I mean,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: I respect the work ethic and yeah, feeling, I don't know,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: it's just touring like crazy. I guess there's mad respect.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely absolutely I would. I would love to see
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: Neil Young live. I have not seen him yet, but man,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: I saw Bob Dylan a few years ago, probably almost
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: ten years ago, well more than ten years ago now, Jesus,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: time goes by quick. He is hard to listen to now,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah I can. Yeah, I've heard that. I haven't seen him.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Timothy would be more listenable at this point doing so.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I would say Bob Dylan's voice is
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: dropped at least two total octaves.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: I don't know if this is all the cigarettes in
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: marijuana he smoked, but I don't know.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: But man, but like I feel like Lennard, it got sick,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: it got cooler. When it draw he.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: Got he got better. Yeah, same thing with same thing
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: with Johnny Cash.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: Johnny Way American albums.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: I like his I like his voice more on those
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: American albums than his early stuff.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: Me too, because it's not it's not always uh, it's
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: not always there too. Sometimes sometimes his voice fades off
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: and it's like, oh man, that's a human good luck
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: a I try to replicate that absolutely.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta see them all if I like, there
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: don't have many more years left. But I also like,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: I loved that last Dealing record.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was great.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: Thought it was so beautiful, and that somebody that's like
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: eighty can only make that record, like like a twenty
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: five yeople could not make that record.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: Did you hear his his his Sinatra songs?
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: No, I skipped that one, but how how was it?
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: It's actually not too bad. It's it definitely feels like
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: a more folksy Sinatra, which is kind of hard to imagine.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: But he did it, he did it off, he pulled
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: it off. Yeah, it's fun.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Well, good list, great singer songwriters on every single one
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: of them, so which I would imagine so with a
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: band like Local Natives and the fact again like all
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: all of you were basically primary songwriters to the band,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Like it would make sense that you that you all,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: I would imagine the entire band loves good songwriters.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and I bet our lists are wildly
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: different and that's what makes us a band.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah that's cool.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: Well, Nick, what do you want to plug?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: So it sounds like you guys are writing, uh, and
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: I'm sure maybe maybe sometime potentially next year, new album?
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you want to plug?
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, Local Native stuff is so far away. I
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: have a record label and a solo project, just chewing.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: What's it called? In chewing? This is the music I
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: make by myself chewing. Okay, I'll put a piano only
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: album out last year, just solo piano. But Chewing ink
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: dot Com is all like the label and the music
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: that I'm making by myself, beautiful.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: Love it, love it, sick, Nick, what else would you
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: like to plug?
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: I think I talked about it earlier, but when I was.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: I did a lot of like church stuff. I did
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: like church plays too. If I talked about that, like
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: like not shocked at all.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: Like like the Heaven like the Heaven and Hell play
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: that or the Heaven's Gate player or whatever they do
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: at every church.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: Is that is that one that we all did? I
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: remember I I did like like Jonah and I got
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: the role of Jonah, Like that was a big thing.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, looking yeah.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So like I was, I was, I was. I
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: was doing plays, like I was doing the worship stuff
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: that came later, but like I was doing that stuff.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: And then in San Diego, you know, it's not like
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: I was getting the big parts in these in these
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: uh church and local productions. And it eventually led to
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: me being on do you remember this serial called Kicks,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: like k with the with the X right, yeah, k
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: I X. So there there's a there's a commercial I
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: landed in the in the nineties. Maybe you can find
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: it on YouTube where I I was the kid in
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: this Kicks commercial.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: Really, so what what kicks hijinks? Did they have you
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: getting up to here?
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's my memory. I was like a kid,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: but it's like it's a lot more boring than you thought.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: Like it was just like you're you're doing the same
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: shot of like the spoon and holding it up and
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: then they're just shooting it different ways. So it's like
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: in my mind, I was like, this is gonna it's
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: gonna ye my parents' mind. I saw home alone like
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: the tournament to nikolay Culkin. But then it was just
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: like a day in La and you're like just in
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: this production warehouse and just like holding up a spoon
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: with cereal and the shooting it three different ways and
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: you you have like literally three lions, And yeah, they
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: thought it was breaking.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: And see, I never understood Kicks because they always tried
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: to kind of position themselves as the healthy, the healthy
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: alternative that kids like.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was like tricking parents are chicken kid Like,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: I don't even know who they're trying to.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: Probably I think they were trying to check everybody. I
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: think they were just as big and bad as the
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: fruit Libs people, but you know they're they're they were
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: trying to be like if you if your mom takes
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: you to the grocery store, she's going to get you
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: Kicks because it's good for you and you're like fuck that.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: I don't want to have something that's good for me.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: I want I want the thing that tastes the best
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: and kicks always tastes like dog water to.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: Be Yeah, Big Cereal is not your friend.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: Big Cereal is definitely not your friend.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: I just love how Hollywood, Uh, you know, you do
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: this little commercial and then Hollywood just unanimously was like,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: you know what, that guy, that kid has a face
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: for an indie rock band.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So are you an industry plant? Is that what
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: you're trying to tell us or what?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Like h G R Her and me are not
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: that different or Billie Eilish that's right.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Right, Okay, I do have to I've always wanted to ask,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: like child actors this, but did you actually like the
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: money that you got from this commercial? Did you get
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: that is sort of like your parents gave you that
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: money or did they pocket themselves?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: I have I had no idea, and this is a
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: great question.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, you probably got like a few hundred dollars
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: out of that, right even I remember.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: I remember, I imagine I was like a thousand or something.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: I remember we got to go to like a good,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: a good pizza place, afterwards, like that was like, my
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: a job well done. We weren't that we weren't there.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: Did you get a skip school for the day?
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: Uh no, because it was on a Saturday.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: Oh that's the worst.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: Like that would be an epic to be able to
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: like go to school. I mean it's all already cool
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: to say, like you know when you when you're in
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: school and tell kids that you're gonna be on TV,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: but it'd be extra epic if you get a skip
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: a day of school for that.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think I was hoping for that the whole time,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: so you could like tell everyone like I'm gone on Thursday,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: Like why you've gone?
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: I've got an acting gig.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: So so when your friend when your friends saw it
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: at the school, would they would they say?
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: Uh? It was like it was a big moment, but
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: like it was also like you couldn't, but you can't,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: you can't. I feel like those word of mouth, like
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: you guys are like thinking of TV today, like if
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: you missed it, if you were like there was no
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: way to know when it was on, but a handful
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: of people saw it. If you're watching Nickelodeon at the
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: right hour, but it wasn't like you could record it.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: I don't even think we had, Like that's why I
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: think I tried to like the thing. Yeah probably no, no, no,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: or like you're just like trying to hit record on
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: the VHS, like you're definitely missing, Like there's no reason
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: to just record commercials all the time.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: Right. My wife was recently at a commercial for her
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: university that she went to and it played during the
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl, which is wild and.
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  Speaker 3: So locally, what's that like a local commercial?
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: Well, it's an STSU commercial.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, there's no way they're playing in the STSU
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: commercial in LA or something.
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  Speaker 5: Right, Probably not, I know, definitely not in La. No,
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  Speaker 5: it'd be like it'd be like you're like a regional one, right, Yeah,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: you're a regional commercial.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: I should say, Yeah, okay from San Diego. I thought
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: you guys were from.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: Oh sorry, South Dakota. So Lakota. Yeah, the better the
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: one that actually has uh you know, national titles.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: We made it to this whole podcast that's not d
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: two universities against each other.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: Come on, now, there're d one. But yeah, So, so
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: she was getting like she was at work during the time,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: and she got like twenty messages during the Super Bowl
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: and she's like what is going on? And I was
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: like your commercial displayed. She's like, oh that makes more sense,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 5: Like why it would happen?
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: I mean super Bowl is prime time?
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  Speaker 3: Hell yeah right?
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, one last question for you. You wouldn't happen
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 5: to go to the same church or did you go
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: to the same church as John Foreman.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: I did not, but I kind of know him. He is,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: how do I I don't remember the connection. I was
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: in a band and the singer was like a guitar
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: tech for switch Foot, and so then we were like
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: open for switch Foot and it was like a really
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: big thing.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: Oh hell yeah. I can actually see you guys working
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: really well together on the same bill, Like that'd be.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: Oh like local natives, Yeah, yeah together not local natives. No,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: So this was like a different band, Like.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Right, but you guys, like you guys should play together,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: that'd be that'd be a sick Yeah.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: I know, you guys would work well together.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: I could see a crossover. Yeah, but yeah, he he
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: was always really supportive of my like San Diego bands.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: What a dude. I've never heard a bad thing about
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: that guy.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't know him super well, so
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: I can't speak on his speak on him, but he's
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: been nothing but like super generous and sweet to me.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: That's awesome.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, San Diego and music in that time
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: is not the biggest world, true true. Yeah, I love it.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: Well, awesome Nick, thank you so much for chatting more
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: about Local Natives. Just yeah, big fan of the new album,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: excited for the new music that will come out here
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: maybe the next year or so. But yeah, just really
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: really stoked about it. And yeah, thanks for thanks for connecting.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: I know, it's kind of a little random that we
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: got connected and and then you know, fortunately I'm a
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: big music fan and I was like, what in the
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: world this is so cool that Local Natives dude just
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: followed me. And so yeah, just really really cool to
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: be connected. And so yeah, thanks so much for chatting
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: about the band.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it was a blast. Nice men you all,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: and thank you every On the last I you didn't
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: know how said
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: It'll know, you know,