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[SPEAKER_04]: Hello there, welcome to another Digital Film and TV review.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm joined by my regular hosts, Andrew, I found so and Richard as they give their little opinion on what was hitting the streaming and cinema releases over the last month.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Got a few titles out for the autumn season.
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[SPEAKER_04]: One by 12th mother, sent me to a value, a herner for course, court stealing, Wednesday and a few other turtles as we go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So we'll kick off actually with film, with... Seems like a good word of mouth, obviously no decapio, kind of like a...
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like a grunge in the comedy it looks like, but you all free saw this, looks very intriguing premise, looks like a post kind of like setting the same current climate, very kind of rebellious army.
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[SPEAKER_04]: kind of like subvertive premise.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I might mean no to Caprio and trying to find these doorchills on another one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But tell us a bit more about the premise anyone that said Richard, you saw this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I found someone looking at you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I found someone looking at you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I found someone looking at you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I found someone looking at you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it directed by Colt Thomas Anderson, who will most surely be nominated and even win the Oscar for
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the next Oscars for this film.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, you think you think it's going to get it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: For sure, I'm like, yeah, I would say he's at the top of the list.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's the same amount.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, they pronounce the caterer's list.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And everyone is very hyped about this movie all over the Twitter and the internet,
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's level the plot, the plot is about a group of revolutionaries from the left political left who do some kind of, let's say bomb beings and some kind of violent acts of resistance
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[SPEAKER_03]: Also, I don't know if I can say more, but the plot jumps into the future at one point and we get they are at some point that the government just goes after them very hard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: let's say that came from her mother was also here and the child's mother were in this group and after a few years they are again in danger and chased very heavily.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of like on the time said too much but that's a it's a chase movie in it at its center.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of a comedy and it's just film at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It has very good acting, humor, action, characters, I don't know, everything, it's very good in general.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I liked it a lot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, Andrew, do you think, uh, quite promising?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, promise to you like it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I mean, that was a good introduction that Lepon said did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, basically, I think the reason that this film is getting the, uh, that's accolades that it's, or the phrase that it's getting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is a good film.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, for one thing, it's very different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: are somewhat different than the directors of their phones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This may be a little bit more grounded, even though some unusual stuff happens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you've seen other stuff on Paul Thomas Anderson, that's to be a little bit more unusual.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In the certain ways, this is a little bit more grounded, and it's maybe more mainstream.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, that's maybe up for a matter of perspective.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the other thing is that it's very timely, at least in the US.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it was meant to be like that, but just given all the news about what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Revolutionaries that are in the film, the group is called the French 75.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And their whole thing is to free migrants who are coming in to the US from just Latin American countries, trying to free these migrants out of these detention facilities and try to get them into the larger population in the US.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so early in the film, they come across when the commanding officers of one of these facilities.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just me clear, it's not based specifically off of things in real life, but it can seem that way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when the commander landing officers in these facilities is played by Sean Penn, and without getting away too much, he becomes kind of the main antagonist in the film.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not just like a small thing for him, he does appear quite a bit in the film.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, the film mentioned Leonardo DiCaprio, but also Chase Infinity, I don't know what all she's really been in, but she does a really good job here and really doesn't stand out, so maybe she'll be recognized come a word season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's definitely timely, and again, I don't know if it was meant to be like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can see how a lot of people log quick seeing it could be like, you know, that seems like what's going on now in the US.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even though it's a fictionalized version, it's not specifically mentioning things like ice or real life law enforcement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of like, but it can seem very similar and
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[SPEAKER_01]: And to be fair, the film does kind of critique things on both the right and the left.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like just one instead of the other, just to be fair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, I could see how people seeing it, critics, or just in general could see the nods to us going on now in real life in the US from the film.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I thought it was a pretty decent film, kind of a little different than the director's other films, without giving too much away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so we'll see what happens in the word season.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, Richard, was it?
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, we have the hype, you think?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I guess, not what a man is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think it was very well done, movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I agree with you,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, yeah, I don't know, yeah, very old scabbers and the fact that it's called the best publisher of the year, well, technique-cleaper apps here for the experts in the map, perhaps here, but I'm trying to put myself in the shoes or just as an audience member, I've seen better, but I kind of understand where they're coming from by saying that it is, it's a very
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, no, I'm not saying, but yeah, I did enjoy it somehow, let's say, but let's just say a couple of days later already for God about it, maybe I don't know, Shen Pen is quite amazing in this movie to be honest, as the bad guy like Andrew was saying, I think actually
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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember more about his performance than the Caprios performance.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why I'm saying that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why I'm not so excited about this one is because while the director, Potomac Anderson, has done amazing work in the past.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Amazing movies.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some of them I consider almost masterpieces.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if I...
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[SPEAKER_02]: compared, stupidly compare, this one compared to other works, but as an as an as an, I think it's not, it's not, it's best definitely not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was more amazed when I first saw my Nuriya, for example,
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[SPEAKER_02]: or there would be blood, for example, or even on a total different genre, a penished on cloth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I definitely want to be watched these ones, and not really rewatch one battle at the Yoruba to go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, on to a more family drama, I think, I think it should probably be required not to film festival this October.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think a sentimental drama from about five and two sons, I'll reach it in for this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm intriguing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What do you recommend to you think?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, only if it's one of those, but we talked about earlier, one of those movies actually that is released in France first and then released all around the world afterwards, whatever, but yeah, because it has, as you said, it has a huge success in festivals and especially in the French
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it's a very, this one yeah, talking about movies that I remember more than two days after watching them, yeah, this one definitely was pretty great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, the plot quickly is,
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, it's a movie from Norway, and you have Stellan scout, he plays literally, he plays a very famous name in the film industry, which is kind of a way who he is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What we focus more on is it is a personal life where it is actually the father of a family whose wife passed away and he has two daughters and were in bear of 30s, 40s and and quickly understand that I'm not trying to spoil much so I'm
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[SPEAKER_02]: Quickly on this note actually, but he has obviously had a very successful plays and films career, but he has not been the best father let's face it, while he's two daughters were growing up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, and one of these two dollars, I think, is the oldest one, played by a circumferenceation by Renat Terenzva, I guess that's her name, who actually was also in the birbubbi by the same director Joaquin Trier, but I still have to watch, that is, from the Mr. Joaquin Trier, which is also very famous, which I haven't seen yet, but now I definitely
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[SPEAKER_02]: So Renata Ren's verb is the others daughter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's definitely the main character because she has become herself, some kind of an artist, some kind of an actress, but in a way she has to she has to become herself, someone that's there and not leaving the shadow of both,
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[SPEAKER_02]: her father but also her parents and it's kind of a personal struggle and the source struggle of the whole family more than anything else, this movie and it's amazing acting, everywhere you look at the acting is for me the best of the year by far.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Nominated at Oscar's and Block Gunnar Globes, and she doesn't win, I don't understand, to be honest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But not only her, even the supporting actress, who, again, I never heard of, was quite amazing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I definitely recommend this one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Quite amazing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right, good, good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, I said, well, we're going to get now at the best of all, it'd be a bit, a bit, a bit, a bit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So,
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know why it's released in October, but it's actually in this coming week, we've got the festering.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So it's going to be, it's a feature there, so it's a good opportunity to catch it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Next, a, well, a traditionally a Fox property, and the amount running a franchise of the alien world is a nerf, which
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[SPEAKER_04]: Disney, I guess Disney's first series for Ray into this darker franchise too, which we were expected well quite a few over the years and decades, but so it was a bit of
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it kind of, it's Richard, you saw this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was nervous about this, but in some cases, it looked quite a beautiful looking and very high production of any you looking series.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And but how did you find the you watch the whole episode?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's about what it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm not, I'm not too alien.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Superfan franchise, whatever I watch all the Indian movies, very know if I watch for me views, yeah, I know about the franchise very well, but I won't consider myself a big fan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm guessing that a lot of people when this project was announced on this necklace, I was kind of worried because it's not
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[SPEAKER_02]: a saga like the Star Wars or Marvelous a draw, where it's definitely family friendly thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In the end, is originally a horror science fiction franchise.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's face it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Very gory sometimes, a very, a lot of logic, et cetera.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you think, how can Disney plus do it right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, after watching it, I have the answer, okay, so, okay, okay, the plot quickly, if you want, the plot is, so tell me if I'm wrong, interrupt me, I just didn't, because maybe after I'm going to talk about the alien franchise term.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, if I don't mistake it, it's said couple of years before alien the first one, but it's not mainly based on its space, but for once, it
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm sorry about those noise waves, police actually in the streets next to my place.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you hear noises, I'm sorry about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, everything is fine, but it's just actually bad days.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not a problem.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You have some other day in Paris, isn't it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, it's very embarrassing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, so yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's two years before the first alien base is set on Earth to sum up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: young very actually children who through some kind of science fiction process are very consciousness transferred into the body of very advanced and droids, very very advanced and droids who actually look like now teenagers, young adults, not children, but their children actually
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we saw the phatobies kids who work for one of the five corporations, but all the earth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And these kids were first mission because apparently they need to have some... They need to do something in their own life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this big owner was only like kind of a man's recovery kind of style corporate guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: anything they can from a ship that crashed on earth and obviously on that ship they are a lot of aliens of different kinds that we only have Xenomorph but they are also Xenomorphs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess that's the way you can describe the plot at the beginning of the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then the
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so yeah, my two things that you say and I would talk about anything else because it wouldn't be fair to anyone who hasn't seen the show, but the two problem is that as I said, you follow the fate of these kids' life teenagers and you mostly follow them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So in a way, it's more a show about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: kind of a blood-runner-ish show, which isn't fine by the way, and I don't mind, it's about quite interesting stuff about, in this show, about robots and the fact that they're souls and they want to be all, etc.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, but not much about the end of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I mean, the middle of the earth is very like, I don't know, sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And even when he shows up, it looks terrible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, sorry, say, but I don't know how much of his shoe costs, but they managed to have the middle of the earth that look less convincing than the one that we had in the 80s.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It is an expensive looking show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It does look beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, and like I said, I mean, the whole premise of Aiden is obviously it's a slasher killer.
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[SPEAKER_04]: A haunted house, xenomorph, that is just killing off crew one by one, traditionally and then variations of that in subsequent sequels.
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[SPEAKER_04]: In this series, it's the least interesting part of the show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It is more like he makes guest appearances.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It is, I'm glad they went a more in a practical suit, but it is a very much average looking guy just passing around in a suit and you kind of like think, okay, where you've made your guest approach, just in case you forgot what show you're looking at, but
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[SPEAKER_04]: On the other's flip side, the most interesting part of this show is the exploration of Android, synth, sidewalks, how are future and our place is it with it, if what as we go to integrate ourselves with it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So some interesting ideas, but it probably would have been more
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[SPEAKER_04]: played one of the TV series, I would say, because that's the big, some interesting hooks in there, and it is cut back corporate politics and everyone trying to get their hands on this biological materials.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And as you say, this ship crashes with a managerial of
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[SPEAKER_04]: Disney aliens, I almost say, because some of them are... Yeah, I mean, I said that that's important.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, they're out in the warps.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're out in the warps in this thing, but they are all the kind of aliens who are... I don't know, I just... They are just there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean... They are just there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It seems the greatest mastermind there is And I I Because it's big but he seems to be doing all the plot thinking and the great brains behind the entire series really which is intriguing, you know, I think, you know He's maybe an internet favourite now as in, you know And back to what I was thinking about horror franchise Hmm Well,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Good job.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You did an alien show of 80 peasants and there is, I think, I mean, when is it gory?
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[SPEAKER_02]: When there is blood?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, perhaps in two scenes out of eight hours of show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, well done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's almost I feel like that was a compromise you have to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but yeah, yeah, that's how many, 20 aliens.
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[SPEAKER_04]: When you come under a Disney banner because
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[SPEAKER_04]: Even though you can sub-separate it, oh, this is Hulu or it used to be, maybe here, but I think there's not really a distinction anymore.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's on your platform.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I think they have to be... I don't think there were any restrictions on here because it is quiet.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The bloody, but they don't dwell on it, but I don't forget they compromise on self too much, but I think this is more of an idea as show, and it's very intriguing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think some good, good casting there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He got Timothy on the phone as a I don't know why I got to you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We have a couple of newcomers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I call them newcomers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can't even know them, but perhaps they did be before with.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to describe it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The guy who plays the Android.
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[SPEAKER_02]: who survived the crash, let's describe it like this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The only survivor of the crash, that's going to be sweet, I thought he would did a great job.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The main female character with the main character, I think he's with the great job as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's stand now, actually, she's very, and there is her brother who who played in Andor,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's pretty good as well.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a good dynamic between the private and sister.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think there's this central question, because obviously it's his dead.
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[SPEAKER_04]: or sister or they kind of promise this kind of idea of you can have a new body but then is this really your sister or is it just a carbon copy and it's the most interesting question about the whole series but I think it's kind of like a lot of people were saying well what does happen afterwards they don't seem to answer questions or so much but I think this is more just leading into a season two which
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm quite, I'm more pleased with it than I'm happy with it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I just expected a bit more of a vanilla, alien and that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You just have to deal with it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I genuinely would you like a season two, over it or you can like, I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You don't care.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, I don't care, but I thought it was not too bad.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There are worse things in the alien franchise.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There are further more horrible crimes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm not on the fence on this one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, OK.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And Andrew, you also saw an F, where are you on this?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It would come out on both sides of the fence with between me and Richard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was really into it in the beginning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it's called Alien Earth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've seen in the movies, but here it expands upon the very beginning of the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They do an explanation of the different types of
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[SPEAKER_01]: Artificial lifelines, I guess, that the hybrid, which are the main characters, human consciousness, download into Artificial bonestrokes, you have the sense, which you've seen so far, like in the movies, it's an old Artificial, everything's Artificial, and then you have cyborgs like that moral character in the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: who's basically human, but has.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Part of what I was talking about, okay, yeah, more of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Maro is the loan, whatever of that ship crash.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's actually the most interesting part of this show, even though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you focus a lot more on the characters on earth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess the best episode for me and I made for other people is in the middle of the series we have the flashback to what happened on the Magino, the ship which is basically the series kind of part to the Nostromo.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The film was in the first movie, this is, uh, Magna is on the, uh, series.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you think like, oh, I know what happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they kind of put signs, head so to speak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, I don't want to spoil what happens, but it definitely makes your rethink things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, value weight, you know, during motivations of the characters,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the other thing about the world building is the idea that the world is divided up into separate corporations rather than governments.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've seen that in the movies a little bit, but here it's not just about Wailand, Utahny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you do see them in the series, but the main focus is this other company prodigy, which you've already mentioned and talked about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's like a rival company, but also like a rival government.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that transcends what we could think of as borders in our present day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, basically the ship crashes and what's called new siam, new siam, whatever, basically, I guess it's Bangkok or I'm not sure what city is supposed to be, but yeah, but it basically in this world, the company's transcend borders and
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have prodigy versus Will and Dutani, and prodigy wants to lay claim to things that are on the ship because the crash in mid-Settaratory.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and then you see some of the other extra terrestrial characters, whatever you want to call them, the eye, the oselis, whatever, the eye of tentacles,
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's like a lot more extraterrestrial entities or if you want to call characters and they're more interesting in some ways than the xenomorphs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I was the enomorphs of there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're all right, but it's just so much more on the show going on.
29:38
[SPEAKER_01]: That said, I do feel it kind of peeked in the middle with that flashback episode.
29:48
[SPEAKER_01]: But then the series that gave me too much way just kind of, it seems like they kind of rushed through it a little bit.
29:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's because they may be, we're filming it during the strikes, but I had to stop filming it at a certain point.
30:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And we start much later.
30:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And at certain points, the actors can work together because they were on your different unions depending on the country.
30:10
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I feel like there were certain things that aren't really resolved.
30:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe there'll be another season, and then they'll answer those questions, but it's sort of like, okay, you know, you kind of got this thing, but what does I mean going forward, and certainly how's it tie into the movie is so.
30:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, there's definitely a lot of interesting world building a lot more than.
30:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what you've gotten so far, but I think if you just go and expecting xenomorphs, you already said this, but you're going expecting like that, it's maybe a little disappointing, but if you go in with the idea of the, let's see more the world building, maybe it's a little bit better.
30:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And now I thought the show was okay, but there could have been more things during the second half of the season that would have maybe made it better and so.
31:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it is a kind of like a problem, it seems when you've got, you've got now inherited franchises with a fan base and their expectations of what they think or what they want and what the series has to deliver and from their perspective make it fresh for new generation and not mentioning other names Star Wars, but it is
31:33
[SPEAKER_04]: a bit problematic.
31:35
[SPEAKER_04]: This, the world building is probably what the meaning to and, you know, it's, it's intriguing enough just to leave the alien behind, but I don't know.
31:45
[SPEAKER_04]: It's interesting, you know, but what we'll see.
31:49
[SPEAKER_04]: I actually hope there is a season two, but we'll see.
32:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Come on, it looks like a crime kind of like, I was comedic, it's got Austin Butler in another moment.
32:10
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm all hot to Matt Smith.
32:13
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm Dr. Huffane.
32:14
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
32:16
[SPEAKER_05]: I've decided to go to my private school, yeah.
32:18
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's a couple of...
32:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Criminal underbelly kind of like someone fives us on some unexpected circumstances, which you saw.
32:28
[SPEAKER_04]: It looks quite intriguing, because these are two quite good actors, actually.
32:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Very good character.
32:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
32:34
[SPEAKER_02]: So that was a good surprise, because I didn't, when I went to see it, I didn't know anything about this movie, not at all.
32:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Or I knew because of the posture, but it was still
32:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, another very talented director, by the way, um, but I didn't know anything else.
32:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so it, yeah, it was a good surprise.
33:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, sometimes you take a shot, you go to do it to appreciate it.
33:06
[SPEAKER_02]: You watch what thing and you just cross the fingers and yeah, in that case, it was a, it was, uh, in a way, this is a kind of movie, but,
33:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I don't see and movie theaters anymore, if you know what I mean.
33:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Not that actually it's supposed to, it's kind of a movie but you will see only on streaming services nowadays, but it's, it's, it's, it's sad that this movie is back in a day when I was growing up, there was room for these movies to be released, this kind of movie, what I mean is that it's at the blockbuster, it's not, uh,
33:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's an Oscar bait or it's not made for the Oscars, perhaps I don't know the time, I don't think so.
33:50
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a good movie, but you watch on Friday night, you know?
33:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's made with middle-like medium budget, not you and the pandemic, not long past it.
34:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
34:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Because now, because obviously you have the choice of releasing these things on streaming or not releasing them at all, whatever.
34:09
[SPEAKER_02]: So obviously, yeah, it's not much room for these things.
34:13
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I was kind of happy to feel this way to begin.
34:19
[SPEAKER_02]: To sum up the story, and I will not go into details because surprisingly, Nupon intended surprising me, they are twist in this movie.
34:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Things that I didn't see coming, and that's why I like even more, this movie.
34:35
[SPEAKER_02]: So Austin Butler is the main character,
34:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it about stealing?
34:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
34:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.
34:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it about stealing?
34:47
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, that's not too easy.
34:49
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a too easy twist, but you're... I'm... I said, is it about and in the New York?
34:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, yeah, in part of New York.
34:57
[SPEAKER_02]: New York City, I mean.
34:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it about and kind of... feel like he failed his...
35:05
[SPEAKER_02]: He is a failure.
35:06
[SPEAKER_02]: He failed his life because back in the day few years before the movie starts it.
35:14
[SPEAKER_02]: He had chances to become some kind of successful, I think it's baseball, not basketball baseball player.
35:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he had a chance to become baseball player, a professional one.
35:24
[SPEAKER_02]: But he made terrible mistakes, but ended up having terrible car accidents.
35:33
[SPEAKER_02]: That would
35:35
[SPEAKER_02]: and obviously his career ended before he even started.
35:40
[SPEAKER_02]: So now he's like, yeah, so the bartender and he's dating character play by Zoek Harvitz.
35:47
[SPEAKER_02]: He lives in kind of a difficult neighborhood and his neighbor is played by trying to think about what I can say.
35:59
[SPEAKER_02]: He's played by Mike Smith who is kind of a drug dealer drug addict.
36:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, who at first seems friendly, um, and, you know, it's that kind of, it was kind of plots where just a random thing happened to him at some point in the first 15 years of the movie and it starts a chain reaction and it becomes involved with all, a list of
36:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And he asked you to find the way out.
36:36
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a very proud of what I just did.
36:39
[SPEAKER_02]: It's actually that doesn't give you any spoilers.
36:42
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's actually a very good way, actually, to give you maybe the intention of seeing this movie.
36:48
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, that's kind of it.
36:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, he's involved with mafia, police, and everything.
36:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it's when it starts after a very small
37:01
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... it's uh... it's uh... it's kind of nonstop and uh... really re-enjoyed the ride uh... and uh... said specially uh... there's one by means couple twist with this one particular twist i'm really insane coming uh... was amazed by it's very good movie very nice little movie not uh... or scourry but very nice movie uh... black yeah don't forget those like middle nice yeah buddy comedy wow i'm not sure how comic it is but it looks like
37:31
[SPEAKER_02]: care to pieces and you made me think, in a total different genre, you made me think of a panic room.
37:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why, because it has nothing to do with panic room, but you look at the kind of movie, but you would watch it with theaters back in the day, but you found it's 90s.
37:45
[SPEAKER_02]: But not a chance that the movie, like panic room, will have a huge window of opportunity in the movie theater nowadays, I guess.
37:54
[SPEAKER_04]: OK, I'm a sketch on streaming if we can't get on the cinema,
38:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Next, the house of Guinness, which is, I mean, I circle drama on the back, the start of the Guinness Empire, I think from the Founding Fathers, our funds of you saw this, looks like a big costume drama, I think they're looking to maybe, you know,
38:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I've seen a couple of episodes, um, yeah, it's, um, from Stephen Knight, the creator of Tiki Blinders, and weirdly enough, also the creator of who wants to be a B, a millionaire, the TV show.
38:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Really?
38:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Stephen Knight created us to be a millionaire.
38:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we do other people, but yeah, he's one of the creators.
38:56
[SPEAKER_03]: So I guess he's, I made a A
39:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, I haven't watched the videos, but this seems different, because it's like one of these movies where the movie films have a lot of series where a death in the family starts the whole plot.
39:35
[SPEAKER_03]: So this is the the father of the Guinness brewery empire, let's say, like, a whole
39:47
[SPEAKER_03]: And he has three sons, one daughter, who are thinking about what will happen with what they will get in inheritance and when the wheel is red in the second episode, well, they all get
40:14
[SPEAKER_03]: pissed for different reasons and yes and there are characters around them who want different sorts of things from them and they all want different things that what they got and so it's about high society.
40:34
[SPEAKER_03]: about ambition, but nothing like in a very wild way to say.
40:39
[SPEAKER_03]: It feels like a little bit killed at age, let's say.
40:44
[SPEAKER_03]: It's quite more calm than your gangster kind of series.
40:51
[SPEAKER_03]: and it's about people talking in rooms and some riots from what I've seen.
40:57
[SPEAKER_03]: It has a lot of, I mean, it's an expensive series, it's historical and high society, so expensive.
41:08
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's nicely done.
41:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it can please most people.
41:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't thrilled.
41:16
[SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't bored.
41:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, it's I can I can just keep watching or not it was was entertaining not let's say but the I think for my taste nowadays I wish the plot moved a little bit faster but it's quite a short the series is quite a short in what it does so even it takes its time but knows what it wants to go
41:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm guessing it was trying to exist in the space where you've had serious like family didn't, didn't steal like succession and I guess be he blinders and all that.
41:58
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm guessing that's where they're aiming to get their their mark.
42:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean it's funny that it's the same kind of I think it's succession.
42:06
[SPEAKER_03]: It's also three brothers and one sister
42:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the succession, it also has a very living father and a lot of swearing, this is this much more polite and scheming.
42:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll leave it with a backstab in a little bit of a tell me everything that you know about this brother that is doing this secret thing with that the person No, I want to know everything that can comprise his political career because there is also the father left a lot of things that money or no money and the control of a business or not
42:47
[SPEAKER_03]: and a political career, so they have, all of them have kind of mum, some of them have plenty, some others not a little bit.
42:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's weed out much.
42:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Are you intrigued?
43:00
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just marooning.
43:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Would you go watch episode two free?
43:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I am keeping with it, but in a, let's say, in a non-prime
43:17
[SPEAKER_03]: in the more alive, after lunch time.
43:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Alright, I have a question for you guys.
43:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't you think, I mean, when I saw, you know, I had Netflix and so you have recommendations and obviously also Guinness was everywhere for a few weeks.
43:37
[SPEAKER_02]: And I didn't know it was even night, as well.
43:40
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's a good setting point.
43:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Just for business, yeah, I watch it, I don't know.
43:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it me or Hollywood, since social network, as fans, but as realize that people want to know how big brands were born?
44:04
[SPEAKER_02]: In order, it's actually because I was thinking very social network now is this, but they were also like,
44:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Tetris on Apple TV, if I'm not mistaken, there was this crazy movie on Amazon a few years ago about air, Michael Jordan, basketball shoes, and I think to be.
44:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because guns are also IP, let's say that's very well known.
44:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, to attract to the guests, yeah, to people, yeah.
44:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so everything can get a movie even though all this, and talking about the social network, all these apps, all these very companies that created apps, even the companies that didn't create the app, but sold a concept that was revolutionary.
44:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I got some examples out there.
44:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Because what aren't sucking roads, the screenplay roads, obviously, obviously, Zuckerberg and other people involved, said that actually, but it is definitely a distortion of the reality.
45:10
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a real, it's just inspired, but definitely not a real life events that we see on screen.
45:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's a lot of reason.
45:26
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm thinking perhaps, yeah, perhaps the producers think, yeah, you're right, but actually, that's these brands obviously, it's a big name, so people will watch, but how, how much, what the world faith can, people have in those streaming movies or movies, obviously, these things are, I mean, the whole, the twist and turns and all the stories
45:52
[SPEAKER_02]: behind those brands, I don't think that all of them are completely true, but that just made for cinema.
45:58
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
45:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm surprised that all the stories of the genesis of these big brands, they all evolved like struggles and fights, etc., like not all of them are worth a movie, but I'm saying, but I mean, it's me, I don't know.
46:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Not that many brands.
46:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure that none of them are worth it.
46:25
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it serves as a hook.
46:27
[SPEAKER_04]: I think this is what we look like.
46:28
[SPEAKER_04]: If you're looking at the age of what it's like, you've got Barbie movies, you've got Mario.
46:33
[SPEAKER_04]: This is the same kind of thing.
46:35
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
46:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, Facebook, I've heard of that.
46:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, let me intriguing.
46:38
[SPEAKER_04]: It's recognizable.
46:39
[SPEAKER_04]: People said,
46:41
[SPEAKER_04]: having it just the hook is it's just the age of film and TV where we are now instead of doing something totally fresh it's either a remake or known brand and then that's I think that's
46:54
[SPEAKER_04]: one big question on TV.
46:57
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what gets the green light really.
47:01
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's why.
47:03
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why.
47:04
[SPEAKER_04]: But then tricky stories I do like those how you people got there, you know, it's not a drama involved in it or the promise of it because you imagine these people were, I've had to do things to get there.
47:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
47:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely, I wasn't in being negative about this.
47:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, social network, I think is still a very good movie.
47:23
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a very, very well done movie.
47:25
[SPEAKER_02]: And because of Stephen Knight, I would definitely watch us a business, but it's just more of a normal comment.
47:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking, yeah, man.
47:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that's like a thought, but I'm only with producers, I've had an investment.
47:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, one next to another branded TVE spin-off.
47:47
[SPEAKER_04]: So you can feel comfortable.
47:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's see, I was family spin-off series Wednesday, which is the second season with Jenna Ortega as the Tartar character.
48:00
[SPEAKER_04]: You're pricing her well again.
48:02
[SPEAKER_04]: So, big,
48:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Kind of hit, I think season one kind of hit the social media kind of nexus, the dance bow, which you give you saw this, is it season two and force wing or devotee, I'm guessing, of when's the items?
48:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, okay.
48:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's start with the not-by-foughts, but let's start with the plot kind of.
48:37
[SPEAKER_02]: So kind of in Harry Potter series, this, once they show apparently, is one season, one season equal one year in this Harry Potter-like school.
48:55
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is the second.
48:57
[SPEAKER_02]: school year of what's the items in the school but I already forgot the name the private school etc.
49:06
[SPEAKER_02]: of the private school but it is yeah thank you it's kind of a mix of all words and child Xavier X-Men thing um because people have superpowers for some reason and um anyway so um
49:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so the first season was kind of a murder mystery kind of who done it and that was very interesting.
49:33
[SPEAKER_02]: The whole plot of 80 pieces was literally one plot kind of a wood on it and the maker actor when the Adam's was kind of the one actually trying to find out who's who's interesting for me, the way it was told but first season.
49:51
[SPEAKER_02]: The second season, the plot,
49:55
[SPEAKER_02]: That's maybe the main problem is how to explain the plot of the second season based like a five different plots in the twins I don't know it is just that yeah, they are problems but involved the roommates played by whether it was played in Minecraft as well
50:19
[SPEAKER_02]: which actually may be the most interesting actress of the show trying to him in my ears.
50:26
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's a plot involving her and developing some part of some side of herself.
50:33
[SPEAKER_02]: She's becoming more spoiled for the first season.
50:35
[SPEAKER_02]: She's becoming some kind of a wear wolf.
50:39
[SPEAKER_02]: But also the whole school, the new director of the school played by Steve Wichimi is a kind of a
50:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Psychopath.
50:50
[SPEAKER_02]: That's another storyline.
50:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Ben Barry is the storyline of the bad guy the first season that comes back to on everyone.
50:58
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the first storyline.
50:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Ben Barry is not a joke.
51:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Ben Barry, the parents of West Adam, West Adam's, were much more involved in the second season.
51:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Even his brother, her brother, is much more involved.
51:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And there is a plot with her brother and some
51:19
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you have another plot with the parents, and her mother's past, but goes back to home, when's the items?
51:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Based so much happening in a space of eight hours, that's so crazy.
51:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Based like a thousand characters, thousand things happening.
51:38
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, if you like things happening on screen and you can be glued, but honestly, it's such a mess for the first, I would say,
51:49
[SPEAKER_02]: but you kind of give up for the link, all these things.
51:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Fortunately, after a minute, the first three pieces are much more interesting.
52:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Even though they try to solve everything at once, but still, after a minute, yet, the ending is much better, even...
52:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Even the acting gets better for some reason, by the way, for some, because, yeah, even you know, if they go, I've never been impressed by the acting performances in the past, but definitely the second part of the show of the second season is much better in that regard.
52:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I wasn't very impressed by the second season.
52:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I really enjoyed the first season, like everyone else.
52:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the first season broke.
52:39
[SPEAKER_02]: the viewership records of Netflix all-time.
52:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Seconds then I don't think it will.
52:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And for good reason.
52:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, and I'm finished my kind of review by saying that I mentioned that in court stealing, there were two, well, a couple of twists by the NC coming and I was amazed because that was really good, you know.
53:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe the twists at the end of,
53:09
[SPEAKER_02]: But I will not say what it is.
53:10
[SPEAKER_02]: There is a twist in the series in finale of when's the adams.
53:15
[SPEAKER_02]: When you watch it, guys, you will laugh your ass off.
53:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking, who is the writer of this show?
53:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Because it's, it's all the stupidest thing.
53:26
[SPEAKER_02]: It makes sense, I'm not saying that that makes sense, but it's all the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
53:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And it definitely got inspired by Harry Potter, but it doesn't matter.
53:36
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just about,
53:38
[SPEAKER_02]: They sell this like the big twist of the whole show, and you say, right?
53:43
[SPEAKER_02]: So who gave this shit?
53:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and I really tell you, the whole scene is like very dramatic.
53:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I say, okay, but that's completely.
53:52
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that may mean that.
53:54
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah.
53:54
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, overall, obviously I didn't like one choice in the scene.
53:57
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
53:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Hmm.
53:58
[SPEAKER_04]: There.
53:59
[SPEAKER_04]: There enough.
54:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
54:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Next, more grounded series looks like the leg shift.
54:09
[SPEAKER_04]: It's about I've been coming the shifts of medical staff are dedicated now.
54:14
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a working healthcare now, how horrible these shifts are as I do myself.
54:20
[SPEAKER_04]: In an understaffed hospital ward, quite intriguing by this, is it, so what is, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
54:31
[SPEAKER_02]: very grounded.
54:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Very grounded.
54:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's interesting to, yeah, that's a definitely a world cost of emotions that we're talking about when it's the items.
54:44
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, no, it's a piece, yeah, so this talking about earlier about better after the other, this might be in my top three of the best movies
55:00
[SPEAKER_02]: for me again, the best movie of the year, so yeah, so it's a co-production between Germany and Switzerland, and I talked about the package, it's the first movie, but I watch coming from
55:19
[SPEAKER_02]: It starts the only Beneck who is starting, she's from Germany, but that's from the German part of Switzerland, she's from Germany.
55:28
[SPEAKER_02]: And who actually has appeared in a couple of the movies before, where she was quite good, she had a supporting role a few months ago, who last year, the movie about what was the name?
55:50
[SPEAKER_02]: or live pink hostages from the point of view of ABC, then in my right, that's the name of the thing, that's a teacher's lounge.
55:59
[SPEAKER_02]: And teachers lounge, and teachers lounge, yeah, from Germany, teachers lounge are stored as well, back in the day, two years ago, I think.
56:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Very good, actually.
56:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, in September 50, she was on the second, in September 10, but teachers lounge has a main role, and that was a very strange movie about, obviously, school.
56:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Very good movie.
56:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, in that case,
56:21
[SPEAKER_02]: So you follow her, she plays a nurse and you literally use follow her night shift, so it starts at like eight, nine p.m.
56:30
[SPEAKER_02]: and all the way to five, six in the morning.
56:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And it is so well directed that it almost looked like a documentary most of the time.
56:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Very well done, very impressive.
56:44
[SPEAKER_02]: A few long sequences with other characters, you know, very well done as well.
56:51
[SPEAKER_02]: And you literally, when you watch the only event playing, you completely forget, but actually, but she's an actress sometimes.
56:58
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how good she is.
57:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I never worked in those with all.
57:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I never, obviously, I know, but it's one of the biggest issues in a lot of countries, friends, I'm guessing UK as well.
57:12
[SPEAKER_02]: But actually, it does limit it stuff, does limit it funds, et cetera.
57:16
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a recurring issue in a lot of countries.
57:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, literally, if you are down for a few issues, watch this movie because it's definitely a movie about that as well about how you ask one person to do a thousand things a minute and obviously impossible.
57:40
[SPEAKER_02]: So she does a best and and yeah, I said it's extremely realistic.
57:46
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I enjoyed it so much.
57:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And which is a good thing.
57:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's like an hour and a half or something like that.
57:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Remember which is great because it feels again like like a documentary in the way that actually that you just there is no time wasted on on the some some ideas story lines for some reason.
58:09
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it feels again, you just go through her pain, her struggles and that's it.
58:18
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's definitely a great experience in Wichita.
58:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I know that, again, this one, like I've always had mentioned, was very successful in festivals.
58:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's surprise.
58:30
[SPEAKER_02]: No idea what you're going to do in the US early next year, and Golden Globes, and the Oscars.
58:39
[SPEAKER_02]: But I believe that,
58:41
[SPEAKER_02]: He's trying to get an ammunition in the International Feature Film category, and I hope he would get it, because it definitely deserves it, yeah.
58:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I'm just going to have to watch it.
58:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Definitely watch your time, guys.
58:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Definitely watch your time.
58:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, right.
58:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Next, a genre piece, I mean, from the pin of Stephen King.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The long walk was usually a good premise for Stephen King release or books that become a visa and drove you saw this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Usually, he's, yeah, his material does make good premises, Stephen Kings had a precious, how did this one fan?
59:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's based on one of his earlier novels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was one that he wrote under the Richard Bachman name or pseudonym, early in his career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what happens here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very dystopian.
59:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's set in a, I guess, an alternate version of the US, but again, it's a very timely story given what's going on.
59:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, interestingly enough, direct to biophanious historians, that's something that they play along the trailers, fancy historians.
1:00:03
[SPEAKER_01]: It's known for doing the Hunger Games movies.
1:00:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And basically it has to elaborate on what the rules are, at least as far as I understand it,
1:00:15
[SPEAKER_01]: in the novel.
1:00:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So similar to the novel, but not exactly the same.
1:00:20
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a group of young, I guess, boys teenagers, they're gathered together and the rules are they walk for however long, be like hundreds of miles.
1:00:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And if they go below three miles an hour, then they get a warning.
1:00:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And if they don't pick up the pace, they get two more warnings
1:00:46
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is just the basic rules, not really spoiled, that rules us to establish.
1:00:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, if they go for an hour, if they get their first warning, and they go for an hour, and they go at their normal pace of three miles an hour or more, then they get a warning taken away, whatever.
1:01:05
[SPEAKER_01]: But the point is that they basically have to keep walking until there's only one survivor.
1:01:11
[SPEAKER_01]: So,
1:01:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and but basically is in this film is that there is a I guess you have the protagonist is Ray I think he's played so he's played by Cooper Hoffman and speaking of Paul Thomas Anderson he's Cooper Hoffman is not for doing one of that director's films so here he is I guess he could say he's like the main character but
1:01:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's the other actor who we focus on, he played, I guess Andy in the Alien Romulus.
1:01:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So in the beginning, you have the different rivalries between the different boys, different guys, and it starts off very light, relatively, and they're going to have military escort with the major known
1:02:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you don't really get his name.
1:02:06
[SPEAKER_01]: He's called the major, whatever call that he's played by Mark Hamill, but there's a little bit of a history there, but I'm not going to really mention more about that because of spoilers.
1:02:15
[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess you could say he's the main antagonist Mark Hamill's character, but really the greatest scope villain as it were as this whole society they live in, to do the Hunger Games analogy, again, it's from that same director, there's been some kind of, uh,
1:02:30
[SPEAKER_01]: conflict in the U.S., the war as a war, economic collapse, and so the U.S.
1:02:36
[SPEAKER_01]: is trying to get back to something, you know, society, some kind of normal sea,ish, I guess.
1:02:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And so the idea is that things are pretty bad economically, and if these boys participate in the long walk, you know why
1:02:57
[SPEAKER_01]: they can get anything they want and they're basically set for the life.
1:03:01
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a pretty bad society that they're living in.
1:03:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So the obviously want to do this to get out of the poverty, the extreme bad situation they're in.
1:03:11
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's also a popular form of entertainment, again, to do the Hunger Games and other analogies.
1:03:18
[SPEAKER_01]: analogy with another Stephen King's story that's getting a film later this year or different version of it.
1:03:24
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's similar stories that we've seen before, not being said it is pretty well done.
1:03:30
[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty disturbing.
1:03:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I mean, I've seen a classified as poor.
1:03:36
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of a mix of poorer drama, different kinds of, but I would say it's more in the sense that it's a pretty horrific situation and just the idea that society has come so badly that
1:03:50
[SPEAKER_01]: at the habit kind of resort to this.
1:03:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, it's not something uplifting.
1:03:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Just say at least something for the jury.
1:04:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And you see these people who they can't stop walking or drop below the three miles an hour speed limit that they have.
1:04:08
[SPEAKER_01]: They have to go at least three miles an hour.
1:04:09
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no bathroom breaks.
1:04:11
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no people get hurt.
1:04:14
[SPEAKER_01]: They get injured.
1:04:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, it still doesn't matter to the people running it, so it's just, yeah, it's a pretty disturbing situation.
1:04:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And you get to see, like, what happens when people just have their normal body functions, you know, they can't have an oxygen.
1:04:33
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and you get an old bit of idea of, like the backstory of, you know, what's going on, at least with one of the characters, and why they're doing this.
1:04:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, it's definitely something that's worth a watch, but again, it's not something that's the most public thing certainly in these times, but again, timeliness, as with we talk about one battle after another, this is also kind of a timely thing, even though it's based on an awful, from decades ago, and they've attempted to do an adaptation that can't
1:05:12
[SPEAKER_01]: at some point, but yeah, so that's what I thought of it with watch.
1:05:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a question for you.
1:05:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it, I mean, other scenes shocking or gore or whatever?
1:05:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Because in France, it was released like 48 hours ago, and I think it has a minus 18 or minus 60,
1:05:42
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, actually, it's literally forbidden for kids under 16 to 17, something like that.
1:05:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would say it's really a family film.
1:05:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know to compare it to other films, but I mean, there's definitely more violent films out there.
1:05:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's just what happens.
1:05:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's violence in the film, but I would say it's more disturbing what's going on in general.
1:06:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, rather than any particular scene, I mean, there are violent scenes in it, but it's more disturbing just the idea that people have to resort to this and again things seem pretty light in the beginning of the film, but then it gets darker and darker as
1:06:19
[SPEAKER_01]: as a walk continues, and yeah, it's definitely just stirping in that sense, so it's more psychologically disturbing than anything you see, even though there's plenty of violence in it, so that's, yeah, I don't know how the rating systems work in other countries.
1:06:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I was just with the rate, but yeah, okay.
1:06:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:06:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
1:06:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks, that next.
1:06:45
[SPEAKER_04]: I think a never kind of like Lord did film.
1:06:48
[SPEAKER_04]: I think in competition and for the palm door, I think was that a simple accident, she's I think a Iranian.
1:07:02
[SPEAKER_04]: director or backdrop.
1:07:03
[SPEAKER_04]: I think involving an accident, that sets in motion series of consequences, I think, against an old for Terry and kind of backdrop, all themes that it's discussing.
1:07:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Richard, do you saw this, I'm intrigued with the hype in their words that it's been touching around it?
1:07:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a bad maddoer, bad maddoer in Can, so it's released a parody around the world, which will be released around the world in the name, but I mean, it was just an accident, I believe.
1:07:42
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a snap accident, which is the original name.
1:07:48
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a movie by an Iranian director called Jaffa Panayin.
1:07:54
[SPEAKER_02]: We're trying famous already.
1:08:02
[SPEAKER_02]: But also, I mean, it's not a real French movie, but kind of complicated.
1:08:12
[SPEAKER_02]: It's definitely an arena director, but it was produced by friends, because obviously the even the topic made him actually forced him actually to create this movie outside of his own country.
1:08:32
[SPEAKER_02]: So what's about some joy?
1:08:36
[SPEAKER_02]: This is, yeah, I'm not trying to talk much about this movie.
1:08:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the plot, because it's only been released at the beginning, friends.
1:08:50
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's follows the story of a guy who works in a mechanic in a garage in Iran, obviously.
1:09:06
[SPEAKER_02]: He, the movie set, obviously, after a lot of tragic events, political events in Iran, and he is mechanic and, like, a lot, a lot of other people in his, in his 40s, 50s, a lot of other people, went through terrible times years of decades earlier.
1:09:31
[SPEAKER_02]: They were tortured because they were
1:09:36
[SPEAKER_02]: supposed to be political opponents or whatever.
1:09:38
[SPEAKER_02]: So they were tortured, etc.
1:09:45
[SPEAKER_02]: So now we kind of live in a neuron that is perhaps most stable, but this mechanic at the beginning of the movie thinks at first things that he recognized one of his torture, one of the guys that he tortured in,
1:10:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Although why he was tortured, he was mostly at the blindfold, right?
1:10:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Most of the time.
1:10:13
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, he only guesses that he has found just by, by mistake, by chance, one of the guy who tortured him for days and weeks and months.
1:10:26
[SPEAKER_02]: So he decides, again, I'm not going to go to find the movie,
1:10:35
[SPEAKER_02]: kidnapped this guy, and instead of just killing him, kidnapped him and go find other people, friends of his, who also were part of the people who were tortured, to help him identify this guy.
1:10:53
[SPEAKER_02]: So in a way, this will be his, obviously it talks about tragic tragic stuff, but it's a very dark comedy most of the time.
1:11:01
[SPEAKER_02]: It talks about
1:11:03
[SPEAKER_02]: political stuff, obviously, it talks about, as a torture, there is nothing graphic and it's just talk about it.
1:11:13
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like they've been tortured, they just talk about it.
1:11:18
[SPEAKER_02]: But there's always, it becomes quickly a road trip almost, a road trip of four or five of these friends wine
1:11:35
[SPEAKER_02]: try to recognize this guy and there is kind of an internal fight for them to decide whether or not he is the one, whatever they have to do, if is the one and how will they feel, how they felt for the last few decades and how will they feel if they do to him what they did to them.
1:12:06
[SPEAKER_02]: not thriller, but drama, definitely a drama.
1:12:11
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really good acting, very well good acting, actually.
1:12:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a very surprising plot, because a lot of time you laugh in this movie.
1:12:22
[SPEAKER_02]: It made me think, I tried to refer to my, I say, it's kind of little misunderstanding.
1:12:29
[SPEAKER_02]: If little misunderstanding was set in Iran,
1:12:34
[SPEAKER_02]: during a dictatorship with torture as a main topic, because it's almost like a movie is like this, it's like to me sunshine.
1:12:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I recommend it because for me it is for once in a lot of years, for a long time.
1:12:53
[SPEAKER_02]: For once, I agree with people that you gave the Parvador, because this being definitely deserves all the recognition he got.
1:13:01
[SPEAKER_02]: For example, last year, I know how to Parvador, I found a mistaken, and I said, I don't understand why, because I think it was, I mean, it could move me, but come on, all this recognition, I don't get it.
1:13:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Based on what we had deserves, everything he gets, I think, and it deserves to be people who should see it,
1:13:23
[SPEAKER_02]: And the last 20 minutes, it's quite extraordinary what you see on screen, the lights and the cinematography, and it's very stressful, but let's in the bad way, let's say.
1:13:54
[SPEAKER_02]: decades.
1:13:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Because it is extremely smart and the director kind of play with the audience.
1:14:06
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's it.
1:14:08
[SPEAKER_02]: To give you an idea, again, no spoilers here, no worry, but to give you an idea, it's a scene.
1:14:18
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the ship keeps going.
1:14:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And in the movie theater, it was packed, there's one sound that comes back, comes back and then the lights in the movie theater are turned off by switch on the lights and the movie ends like this and I can't tell you what more about this scene, but because how it's directed, it cuts like this.
1:14:52
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so surprising that everybody in the initiator looked at each other, I think, that's the end.
1:14:58
[SPEAKER_02]: But not in the bad way, they say it is so smart because the mission of a movie is, but you think about it, as I said before, for days and weeks, we bad kind of ending.
1:15:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I can assure you that everyone in the movie theater had been talking about this movie to their parents and they closed once all night long because it was such a great idea to end a movie like this.
1:15:19
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I recommend this movie 100%.
1:15:22
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, well deserved, I ordered to film a good, good, good to hear.
1:15:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, wayward, um, this is, I think, Tony Colette and this one, um, seems a, uh, it seems the process of school of wayward teenagers, and I think comes under the investigation
1:15:50
[SPEAKER_04]: of what this school is about and it's charismatic meter.
1:15:53
[SPEAKER_03]: It's almost like a Stephen King premise again, but... Yeah, it's a Mr. Schiller thriller, and it's also an academy.
1:16:07
[SPEAKER_03]: As Wednesday, not for gifted, but for travel teenagers in a town called Tol Pines.
1:16:19
[SPEAKER_03]: And the Academy is also called Seoul Times Academy.
1:16:24
[SPEAKER_03]: And well, let's say a couple coming to town, a new police officer who is also the director, who plays the police officer who is a transgender man, and it's my Martin who
1:16:47
[SPEAKER_03]: created also the comedy field good a couple of years ago and now she has like say change genres and we're doing this as a thriller and she's now well and I'm sorry he is now a transgender man sorry
1:17:10
[SPEAKER_03]: And so he comes into the town with his wife, played by Sarah Gadden, who is pregnant and also a former Academy student, full-fines Academy student, who, yeah, is from my, I mean, the Academy is
1:17:37
[SPEAKER_03]: in a sort of like religious leader almost kind of way.
1:17:43
[SPEAKER_03]: It's this kind of vibe of a cult.
1:17:48
[SPEAKER_03]: So you never, there are two other protagonists who are a couple of teenage girls.
1:17:56
[SPEAKER_03]: And well, as you may guess, they end up being sent to it.
1:18:04
[SPEAKER_03]: It kind of me won't wear another.
1:18:06
[SPEAKER_03]: are being like institutionalized in these plays who has, well, it's own rules and a cast of teenagers who give it quite a charming vibe, let's say.
1:18:26
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a, it's a, it's a place for outcast
1:18:35
[SPEAKER_03]: the high school, let's say, in this case, that they form like sort of a end-up performance, some kind of mismatch family.
1:18:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
1:18:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the thing is that there's mystery to be solved.
1:18:51
[SPEAKER_03]: The movie starts with one of the teenagers escaping from the academy and trying to escape and see, and ended up
1:19:00
[SPEAKER_03]: and he ends up crossing paths with the police officer with my emergency and his wife and from then on both the two girls and these cops try to solve what is this place really about and what
1:19:29
[SPEAKER_03]: it expands farther than that.
1:19:32
[SPEAKER_03]: It's, you get the real sense of this being in the big cast of like, and to be said, in this community, in this place, where there's something really off.
1:19:46
[SPEAKER_03]: And so this main character, the police officer, really starts noticing that things are off there, in toll pines, and in toll pines, the ceramic boat,
1:20:00
[SPEAKER_03]: So you get the series, it's about discovering what is happening and about from the perspective of teenagers inside just trying to see how they can manage the academy, which is not well, well, it can be tough for them to or even then you're
1:20:29
[SPEAKER_03]: and then because it's like this kind of, you know, like, three-lord series.
1:20:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:20:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, two series done.
1:20:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Is that it?
1:20:37
[SPEAKER_04]: It is a series, yeah.
1:20:38
[SPEAKER_03]: It is.
1:20:39
[SPEAKER_03]: It is.
1:20:39
[SPEAKER_03]: It is.
1:20:40
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
1:20:40
[SPEAKER_03]: It can be a mini series.
1:20:41
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if it's going to continue, but it could continue or not.
1:20:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
1:20:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
1:20:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
1:20:51
[SPEAKER_04]: Next, I can't say re-imagining and re-telling again of where I say re-make video for the War of the Roses, which I think was the film that came out.
1:21:06
[SPEAKER_04]: I think late 18, so if you had the exciting about then it was Michael Douglas and Kevin Turner.
1:21:14
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, here it's, uh, well, Benny, come on back, and I love what you call when in a, I guess, telling the same story of a,
1:21:23
[SPEAKER_04]: couple to uh, bringing the strains of marriage and things escalate.
1:21:30
[SPEAKER_04]: There's come a semi-comedy button, big hit them back back to the original version, but this one is uh, seems a, it's interesting what their take is um, you saw this
1:21:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I think that's the right words that you use, yeah.
1:21:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:21:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I have watched the other one from the 80s like once in my life was fun.
1:22:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Was this remake necessary?
1:22:07
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
1:22:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's put it this way straight away, no, obviously.
1:22:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, if you really want to make a remake of a movie like this with bad kind of plots,
1:22:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess you have to choose the rights couple.
1:22:28
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, for the plot, I mean, it's a remake, but the plot is obviously, but it's a couple.
1:22:35
[SPEAKER_02]: That's better than life with children who are three teenagers.
1:22:40
[SPEAKER_02]: And, and,
1:22:45
[SPEAKER_02]: At first, he's very successful in his career.
1:22:48
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not, after five minutes, something happens.
1:22:51
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's been over around.
1:22:54
[SPEAKER_02]: She's become extremely successful in his career as a kitchen chef.
1:22:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And he got fired and he becomes a state that home has burnt.
1:23:07
[SPEAKER_02]: But he has a lot of regrets about not going to work anymore.
1:23:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And this situation about her big successful, but being kind of not bare for the children and him on the other is very around.
1:23:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, creates obviously a lot of resentments and problems in the couple and it escalates and liked in the movie.
1:23:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's described so far, but actually we start to not only fight verbally, but they also literally fight each other all the time, but and back in the day, it was dark comedy and he's here definitely also dark comedy with some scenes that are, what try to be emotional, but yeah.
1:24:03
[SPEAKER_02]: First thing that needs to be done well is to find a couple, but that's good chemistry and to act as an actress that have great, let's say, but make people laugh, literally, but have great sense of shimmer and that kind of talent.
1:24:23
[SPEAKER_02]: All the documents, obviously, for me, is extraordinarily extraordinary
1:24:32
[SPEAKER_02]: person, I think, in interviews and in some movies, in early in the career, a program, she but she's in areas and she's definitely the best part of the couple.
1:24:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think Betid Kamba Bach was the right person for this job.
1:24:46
[SPEAKER_02]: In my personal way, I don't think is, I mean, the good
1:24:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't see actually that they were a real couple most of the time.
1:25:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I definitely only saw they come a batch and earlier comment, which is a problem.
1:25:09
[SPEAKER_02]: There's also not enough scenes about literally being them being in love.
1:25:16
[SPEAKER_02]: What I mean is that
1:25:28
[SPEAKER_02]: but they try to make it like it's dramatic, not only funny but dramatic, but it is lacking.
1:25:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, for movie lacks is lacking in the first part of the movie.
1:25:39
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have you don't believe in bare romance, so it doesn't work.
1:25:47
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't work, it doesn't work, it's
1:25:50
[SPEAKER_02]: now is the movie funny but which is the most important thing is the way funny overall I think they are a few scenes where the movie is hilarious but not thanks to them but thanks to the supporting cast by the way every time there's actually scenes that involve the supporting cast to the movie becomes hilarious so thanks to Alice and Jenny from the West Wing she has one scene and she kills it um
1:26:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks to Ken McKinnon and Adam Sandberg from SNL, we have a few scenes and every time we are on screen, we are in areas.
1:26:21
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, for the main couple, yeah, I was not very interested.
1:26:27
[SPEAKER_04]: looks like camp having the success of the region one would need heavily that it was there were two big mega stars basically and they're close, I mean they're both have a, yeah, convening to their company, I mean they have the dramatic trops to do the serious stuff and the comedic stuff so yeah maybe maybe maybe not the best pair for this but let me find Ryan Gosling or Margaret
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[SPEAKER_04]: as a equivalent, maybe in this version, it could be different, but yeah, I think it really does the surprise that I've got to be work as a series, maybe, but as a film, it's tricky one to pull off.
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