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EYL #259 Van Jones On Jeff Bezos's $100 Million Grant, Leaving Obama White House, & Changing Prison System · Earn Your Leisure

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  Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child
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  Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador
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  Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with
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  Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just
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  Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President
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  Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy nom the United States
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  Speaker 1: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border
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  Speaker 1: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you
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  Speaker 1: are here illegally, your next you will be fined nearly
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  Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, and deported. You will
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  Speaker 1: app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally.
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  Speaker 1: Do what's right. Leave now. Under President Trump, America's laws,
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  Speaker 1: border and families will be protected.
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  Speaker 2: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland.
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  Speaker 3: Security working with jay Z to build a reform Alliance
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  Speaker 3: to get people out of prison. I was with jay
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  Speaker 3: Z a board meeting for the Reform Alliance. Now I
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  Speaker 3: mean to be rude, but I know a lot about
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  Speaker 3: criminal justice stuff.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a lawyer.
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  Speaker 3: I've been doing this for thirty years. So I said
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  Speaker 3: one place, I don't have to worry.
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  Speaker 5: About jay Z beating me the home game for you,
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  Speaker 5: it's a home game for me.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not worried about jay Z. And this is my territory.
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  Speaker 6: So you know, my team would come up with stuff
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  Speaker 6: and we.
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  Speaker 3: Were presenting on me, and I knew my stuff was tight.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm impressing jay Z. I know this dude
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  Speaker 3: is proud to get And after I finished talking, you
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  Speaker 3: just just looking at me, just looking at me. And
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  Speaker 3: we've been talking about probation and parole and supervision reform
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  Speaker 3: and how we're going to perform supervision so folks don't
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  Speaker 3: get sent back on for no reason and it's gonna
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  Speaker 3: change it. And he just looked at me. He's just like,
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  Speaker 3: how many people in this room were supervised into being better?
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  Speaker 3: In the room got dead quiet. We're like, uh oh uh,
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  Speaker 3: he is anybody here, He's not the only billionaire in
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  Speaker 3: the room. It's a whole bunch of billionaires that he's
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  Speaker 3: out the organized all in the room, And.
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  Speaker 4: Did did you did you?
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  Speaker 3: Did you did anybody here get supervised into being better
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  Speaker 3: or did you get mentored into being better?
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  Speaker 7: All right, guys, welcome back e y L. We're back
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  Speaker 7: home and this is a very exciting episode for us.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Well, we're into politics a lot. My mom's been watching.
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  Speaker 4: Our parents are doing the same thing.
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  Speaker 8: They watch it like it's ESPN.
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  Speaker 4: It's all they watched.
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  Speaker 5: I got an argument, like we were doing our show,
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  Speaker 5: and I would argue, like, you're watching this show more
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  Speaker 5: than you're watching your son. I could do more for
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  Speaker 5: you than it the people you're watching. And so they
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  Speaker 5: started mixing it in. But you know their daytime programing
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  Speaker 5: is politics.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So we have the man, the myth, the legend, Van Jones,
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  Speaker 7: so serial entrepreneur, entrepreneur used to work at the White
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  Speaker 7: House and just got a huge grant from Jeff Bezos
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  Speaker 7: that we'll talk about, best selling author family man that
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  Speaker 7: should have said that first. And somebody that has just trailblazed.
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  Speaker 7: I just found out a story about Prince that I
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  Speaker 7: just found out just now. So somebody that has been
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  Speaker 7: a leader, uh in thought leadership for a while, and
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  Speaker 7: somebody that we kind of grew up watching on television.
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  Speaker 7: So it's always good to actually connect with people that
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  Speaker 7: you see on TV in real life because it's a
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  Speaker 7: weird idea.
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  Speaker 8: Hit a voice in you think they about to cut
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  Speaker 8: the commercial.
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  Speaker 5: Notched you for so long, I mean currently on CNN,
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  Speaker 5: but even from the standpoint where I went to see
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  Speaker 5: you live, Yeah, that's crazy. And I didn't realize it
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  Speaker 5: was six years ago. But brought my mom because she
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  Speaker 5: had to see you, and we ended up you ended
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  Speaker 5: up posting me.
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  Speaker 4: This is now a full circle moment.
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  Speaker 3: It is a moment that was We did the Wee
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  Speaker 3: Rise tours right after Trump had gotten elected, so we
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  Speaker 3: were going around trying to you know, gather people up
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  Speaker 3: and get people's you know, hearts, you know, back pumping.
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  Speaker 3: And we got a chance to be at the Apollo
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  Speaker 3: and Corey Booker was there. Victory Boyd, who's now a
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  Speaker 3: rising gospel stars. She it was her first time on stage.
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  Speaker 3: I got your interview, Alice Sharpton. But the crazy thing
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  Speaker 3: about it is we look back in the photograph that
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  Speaker 3: I posted had you in it.
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  Speaker 4: This is true. This didn't didn't know you at all.
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  Speaker 3: And also also by the way, you know, it's funny
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  Speaker 3: because you're talking about, you know, seeing somebody on TV
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  Speaker 3: is so much more intimate. How I know you guys
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  Speaker 3: because you're in my ear. You know the podcast is
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  Speaker 3: not I mean, TV is like over there. The podcast
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  Speaker 3: is right here. You be on the little tread me
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  Speaker 3: a little bit. So to seeing you guys on the elevator,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I was like cheezing because I was like, wow,
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  Speaker 3: it's like and also you y'all are much taller and
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  Speaker 3: much much much stronger than.
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  Speaker 7: I knew, Like down has dropped six inches off of
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  Speaker 7: our height exactly.
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  Speaker 4: I think we're gonna do our next episode standing up. Hey, listen,
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  Speaker 4: y'all tim.
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  Speaker 3: Dates so folks like these was in the gym, I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I gotta, I need to go get some get some
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  Speaker 3: some barbells. All serious brotherhood, but I just want to
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  Speaker 3: say it. You know, it's it's such a gift what
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  Speaker 3: you're doing.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you.
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  Speaker 6: We've been hearing.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, you know we should own you know, we own
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  Speaker 3: your own black man. You know the boat ties and
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  Speaker 3: the bean pies and brother, what do you? But we
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  Speaker 3: don't know how. It's one thing to wish it or
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  Speaker 3: want it or drink it, but it's how do you
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  Speaker 3: actually do it? And as somebody I'm now in my
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  Speaker 3: mid fifties. Uh, I'm just now learning a lot of stuff,
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  Speaker 3: and I learned a bunch from you. I've got a
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  Speaker 3: chance to you know, like you guys have a relationship
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  Speaker 3: with Robert Smith and stuff like that. And it's unbelievable
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  Speaker 3: how you know. I mean, I went to law school,
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  Speaker 3: I went to college. You know, I'm raised, I've raised
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  Speaker 3: you know, children, I got a grown son, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: still just now realizing the power of being able to
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  Speaker 3: use business, uh for for for social change, a family change.
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  Speaker 3: It's just it wasn't something that was really explain the
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  Speaker 3: way you guys explained it.
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  Speaker 8: Appreciate it, Thank you, Thank you. We have a lot
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  Speaker 8: to talk about.
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  Speaker 7: But for anybody that might not be familiar, just want
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  Speaker 7: to kind of quickly go over your backstory. How do
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  Speaker 7: you get into politics? Worked at the highest leedgl worked
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  Speaker 7: at the White House, and you know, seeingn bestselling author.
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  Speaker 7: People see your resume, but they might not know how
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  Speaker 7: that actually happen. So how does all of this happen
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  Speaker 7: to you get to this point?
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, my parents. Honestly, I mean.
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  Speaker 7: Did you always have a passion for politics? Like this
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  Speaker 7: is what you knew you wanted to do?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, because I was born in ninety sixty eight.
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  Speaker 8: So it starts with advocacy sart of it.
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  Speaker 3: It started with just just seeing what my what my
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  Speaker 3: parents went through. I grew up on the edge of
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  Speaker 3: a small town in rural West Tennessee, Jackson, Tennessee. My
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  Speaker 3: father was born in Orange Mound, Memphis. Anybody who knows Memphis,
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  Speaker 3: Orange Mound is the hoodie hood even to this day,
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  Speaker 3: that's what people. Yeah, so my dad, my dad was
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  Speaker 3: born there, and you know, and real poverty in nineteen
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  Speaker 3: forty four, segregation, all that kind of stuff. So he,
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  Speaker 3: my dad saw the worst of it. I mean, just
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  Speaker 3: straight in word bubble Jim Crow, Jim Crow for real,
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  Speaker 3: people like that stuff was a thousand years ago. No,
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  Speaker 3: my parents were born in segregation, not my grandparents, not
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  Speaker 3: my great green My mom and my daddy were born
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  Speaker 3: in segregation.
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  Speaker 6: They were married under segregation. Not my great great grandparents.
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  Speaker 3: My mother and my father and so and I watched,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he had joined the military to get out
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  Speaker 3: of poverty. Now this is when everybody's trying to get
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  Speaker 3: out the military. My dad tried to get into the military,
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  Speaker 3: went into the military, became a cop in the military,
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  Speaker 3: trying to get out of poverty, got out and put
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  Speaker 3: himself through college at a little black college called Lane
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  Speaker 3: College in Jackson, Tennessee, and he married the college president's daughter,
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  Speaker 3: my mother, because my dad was trying to make moves right,
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  Speaker 3: but automatically that just creates a lot of tension because
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  Speaker 3: my mom was kind of like the bougie side, you know,
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  Speaker 3: her dad had been a college president. You know, she's
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  Speaker 3: a aka and a link and all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And my dad is still trying to get his family
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  Speaker 3: out out of the hood. And pretty much everybody that
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  Speaker 3: got out of poverty in my family, one way or
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  Speaker 3: the other, got up poverty on this bridge called my
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  Speaker 3: father's back. Even though he's like working as a school teacher,
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  Speaker 3: he's constantly sending money back, trying to make sure people
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  Speaker 3: don't get evicted, trying to put people into school.
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  Speaker 4: He put his little brother through college, she put.
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  Speaker 3: A cousin through college, and when he died, the picture
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  Speaker 3: they put on the funeral program with him standing in
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  Speaker 3: front of Yale Law School the day I graduated, with
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  Speaker 3: his hands in the air, and what he was said
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  Speaker 3: to me was, you know, you're a ninth generation American.
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  Speaker 3: We've been here for nine generations. You're the first one
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  Speaker 3: in our family that was born with all your rights.
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  Speaker 3: You were born with the euro because those bills passed
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  Speaker 3: ninety sixty or sixty five. So I was born in
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  Speaker 3: sixty eight with my twin sister. So y'all were born
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  Speaker 3: with all your rights. And look at what you've been
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  Speaker 3: able to do in one generation to be able to
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  Speaker 3: go to a Yale law school. So for me, much
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  Speaker 3: to his dismay and frustration, I said, well, look.
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  Speaker 6: I'm here, I've got the law degree.
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  Speaker 3: I'm twenty four years old with dreadlocks and a law degree.
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  Speaker 3: I want to go. I want to help you know,
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  Speaker 3: people like you did, Daddy. I want to I'm suing cops,
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  Speaker 3: you know I'm doing.
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  Speaker 4: My Dad's like, wait, don't make some money.
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  Speaker 8: We want you to work for a law firm.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you wanted me to go, like it's like we
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  Speaker 6: didn't go through all this for.
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  Speaker 3: You to go be justice broke or more broke than
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  Speaker 3: your cousins. I was like, no, Daddy, I want to
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  Speaker 3: be like you. And so I'm still in my mind
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  Speaker 3: for thirty years, I'm trying to catch my dad because
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  Speaker 3: he helped so many people when you know, at that funeral,
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  Speaker 3: it was lines around the block for my father, black
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  Speaker 3: and white because he had become a teacher and he
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  Speaker 3: become an assistant principal in the naacp suit Our County
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  Speaker 3: so he could become a principal, and so he was
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  Speaker 3: like a black principal and he took this. They gave
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  Speaker 3: him this like little shitty middle school that was like
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  Speaker 3: the scary middle school, like three housing projects feeding into it,
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  Speaker 3: Jackson Middle and he turned it from the worst to
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  Speaker 3: one of the best in the state. And he got
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  Speaker 3: like state awards as an educator. So when he died,
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  Speaker 3: there was white teachers, black teachers, white students, black teachers, students.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, this dude started with literally zero and it's
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  Speaker 3: helped this many people. Now he's put me in a
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  Speaker 3: position where I'm leaving Yale Law School. How am I
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  Speaker 3: ever gonna catch him? In terms of what I can
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  Speaker 3: do with my life? So, I mean I spent like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, twenty twenty five years just trying to use
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  Speaker 3: my law degree to help people through politics, through advocacy.
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  Speaker 3: In the Sancusco Police Department Open Police Department, we closed
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  Speaker 3: five abusive youth prisons in California, you know, building not
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  Speaker 3: for profit organizations that could actually help people. And as
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  Speaker 3: a result, I know how to build not for profit organizations,
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  Speaker 3: I know how to move policy, but I am only
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  Speaker 3: just now learning how to build businesses. I'm just now
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  Speaker 3: learning how to move capital because I really, at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the day, you know what the game is about,
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  Speaker 3: and that's brand new notice for me, for my whole family.
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  Speaker 4: Is that's something that you know, we don't know a
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  Speaker 4: lot about.
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  Speaker 5: We've had maybe one or two guests that talked about
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  Speaker 5: the non for profit side of creating organizations. So what
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  Speaker 5: are some of those challenges that you faced. I guess
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  Speaker 5: going back to maybe the nineties that you actually see
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  Speaker 5: our prevalence still in getting in that space and the
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  Speaker 5: non for profit.
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  Speaker 3: You know, people come to me all the time now
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  Speaker 3: and say, you know, I want to start not for
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  Speaker 3: profit organization.
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  Speaker 6: They want me to help them do that.
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  Speaker 3: I really challenge them, like, is that what's missing in
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  Speaker 3: our community? Like we don't have enough not for profits,
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  Speaker 3: we don't have enough charitable organizations. Is that is that
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  Speaker 3: really where the lack is? People say, oh, I want
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  Speaker 3: to go to law school. You know, you went to
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  Speaker 3: law school I want to go to law school.
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, really, really, is that? Is that what you think?
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  Speaker 6: We don't have enough?
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  Speaker 4: We don't have enough lawyers.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we've had lawyers, going back to Thurgood Marshall,
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  Speaker 3: We've had lawyers. You know, we had not for profits.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's good maybe for your first five or
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  Speaker 3: six years out of school just to kind of like
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  Speaker 3: give back and be grounded. But what we don't have
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  Speaker 3: is enough people who understand financing technology. If you look
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  Speaker 3: at how power functions, there's four corners of power in
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  Speaker 3: this country's.
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  Speaker 4: Washington, D C.
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  Speaker 3: Politics, A bunch of lawyers there. I know that world.
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  Speaker 3: I come out of that world. But that's one corner
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  Speaker 3: New York City where we're sitting right now Wall Street finance.
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  Speaker 3: I don't see how many black people doing that. And
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  Speaker 3: so automatically you know something is wrong because here we
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  Speaker 3: have all these black people in politics, public affairs, lawyers, senators,
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  Speaker 3: congress people. We've got a black Vice president, we got
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  Speaker 3: two black senators. Of the top ten cities in America,
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  Speaker 3: seven have black mayors. Hakeem Jeffery is about to run
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  Speaker 3: all Democrats in the House. I mean, we got a
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  Speaker 3: lot of black people in politics, public service, not for profits,
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  Speaker 3: law degreees. But you get in the train from DC
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  Speaker 3: and come up here to New York and go to
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  Speaker 3: Wall Street. You don't see as many black folks up here.
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  Speaker 3: Wait a minute, that's a problem. Then you hop on
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  Speaker 3: on an airplane, go from New York City JFK Land
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  Speaker 3: in the Bay Area, SFO. Now you're in Silicon Valley technology.
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  Speaker 3: Very few of us in that world hold on a
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  Speaker 3: second trillion dollar industries being launched biotech, AI, quantum computing,
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  Speaker 3: but very few.
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  Speaker 4: Of us there.
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  Speaker 3: Then if you leave SFO, pop down a lax in
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  Speaker 3: La Hollywood. Okay, we have a lot of stars, but
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  Speaker 3: we don't own the studios.
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  Speaker 4: You have very few Tyler Perry's, very few Oprahs.
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  Speaker 3: So if you're trying to play a four corner game
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  Speaker 3: of power and all we have is a bunch of
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  Speaker 3: lawyers in the politics corner, but we don't have power
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  Speaker 3: in the finance corner, the technology corner, in the media
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  Speaker 3: ownership corner, then no matter how well we play the game,
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  Speaker 3: we're probably going to lose more than we win.
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  Speaker 7: So it's media, finance, tech and politics. Politics.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, and you just see it on the map, DC
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  Speaker 3: is politics. New York is finance, Bay Area is technology,
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  Speaker 3: and LA is media ownership. And most black folks are
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  Speaker 3: in politics and entertainment, but we don't own the Prince's
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  Speaker 3: always tell me Van, you're on CNN. You don't own CNN.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not impressed. Right, those help prints would talk to us.
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  Speaker 3: That's how friends should talk to each other. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, so, so you asked a question about it.
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  Speaker 3: What I would say is, I think it's time for
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  Speaker 3: us to start using business. It's time for us to
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  Speaker 3: start using investment. It's time for us to start using
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  Speaker 3: the power of the market to uplift our community as
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  Speaker 3: our primary strategy. And then you not for profits of
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  Speaker 3: the secondary strategy. We've been in reverse. We've been primarily
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  Speaker 3: trying to go to politics, protests, not for profits to
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  Speaker 3: fix everything.
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  Speaker 6: Other communities they don't do that.
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  Speaker 3: Other communities they have businesses and they have a lobbyist
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  Speaker 3: to go to the government to help their businesses. We
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  Speaker 3: mostly have a bunch of lobbyists with no business to help. Well,
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  Speaker 3: it's not gonna work.
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  Speaker 8: Talking to somebody.
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  Speaker 7: I think he's from Congo, but he was talking about
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  Speaker 7: the whole continent of Africa. And he was saying that
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  Speaker 7: charity is not going to solve Africa's problems. Billions of
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  Speaker 7: dollars has gone into charity and it's not doing Anything's like,
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  Speaker 7: only real infrastructure and business is going to change the
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  Speaker 7: things because he's like the politicians, they can't get it right.
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  Speaker 7: It's gonna get mismanaged anyway. And when he when he
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  Speaker 7: explained it to me, it was it made a lot
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  Speaker 7: of sense. And I kind of see the same thing
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  Speaker 7: in America, right, And that's why we started our platform
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  Speaker 7: because like you said, I mean, it's not changing anything
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  Speaker 7: to have lawyers. It's good to have it, it's good
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  Speaker 7: to have social programs, but ultimately it just kind of
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  Speaker 7: keeps you at the same level that you're at.
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  Speaker 4: Look, everybody needs to vote.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying anything negative about that, but the ballot
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: box is not where you can get what you want.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: The ballot box is where you can lose what you've got.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: So if you don't show up, you can lose what
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: you've got. So we have to vote defensively to make
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: sure they don't take more rights from us, take more
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: stuff from us.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: But that's your defensive strategy.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Your offensive strategy has to be what part of this economy.
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: Do we want to own and control?
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: And you know, part of with the reason I wound
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: up getting that big grant from Jeff Bezos has to
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: do with me trying to figure that out. And it's
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: amazing how one thing will lead to another thing. So
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: I was trying to be a do gooder, you know,
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: trying to help people who don't have anything in our community.
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: And you meet people, you know.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: People who see you on TV or they they hear
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: about your work you're doing and they want to come,
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: they want help. And a lot of times people have
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: they have money, you know, they're they're wealthy people.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: So Felicia Horowitz.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Who's an African American woman exactly married to Ben Horowitz,
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: and reason Horowitz is like the big the biggest investment
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: firma in Silicon Valley, the biggest investors in technology, the
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: most successful in technology.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: Well you know this is a Jewish guy with a
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: black wife.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: So these they understand oppression, they understand what's going on.
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: And so Felicia Horowitz had to ask.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Her mission to try to get more of us involved
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: what's going on in Silicon Valley. And we're right there
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: in California, not not really noticing what was going on.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: So she's you know, mc hammer and NAS and myself
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: and other people. She would bring over to the house
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: and try to give us game, and Ben would try
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: to give us game, and you know, we were very
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: hard headed because you know, it's like, well, I'm successful,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, and she's like, no, you don't understand anything
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: about what's going on in the state. And so over
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: time I started realizing, wait a minute, like we're we're
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: sitting here in California. We're billions of dollars of being
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: the main technology. We're not uploading apps, we're downloading apps.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: When you're downloading the app, that means when you move
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: your thumbs around, you're making money for somebody else. It's
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: when you upload an app and somebody uses the app
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: you uploaded, that's when you make money. Black people moving
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: that thumb around making money for somebody else. That used
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: to be called picking cotton. Okay, so we're like a
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: bunch of digital cotton pickers out here downloading other people's
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: stuff making money for them. And so I said, okay,
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I need to do something different. And then she introduced
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: me to the people who run the Sun Valley Conference
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: and they invited me there, and that's where all the
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: billionaires go once a year to talk and do deals
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: and stuff. So I show up there with my eyeballs
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: like about to fall out of my head because you know,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: there's Zuckerberg right there, There's you know, all these names
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: that you've heard of, and they're just walking around, no staff,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: you know, just talking to each other, eating meals, and
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: you start to realize, Hold on a second, this is
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: the whole community of people that are billionaires. It's not
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: like one billionaire over there and one billionaire over here.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: They know each other, they speak the same language, their
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: kids go to the same schools, and there's very few
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: of us that participated at that level. And so I realized, man,
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Felicia is really changing things by just even just the exposure.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: But then, you know, I would come out of it
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: and I would feel depressed because like, I don't know
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: how this world works, and you know, what am I
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: supposed to do and how is it supposed to And
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: so you have to go through that whole period of
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: just feeling disoriented and almost like a big dummy, like
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: I spent my whole life out here, Like it's.
• 19:47
  Speaker 8: Like the matrix.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you got to see the other side. There's
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: a lot time on the fact there. I mean you
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: brought something that Robin Smith to talk to us about
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: about being on the wrong side of the equation.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: Right, And so when you're talking about uploading to download
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: to different things, Yes, when you broke down that four
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: corner analogy, I'm like, this is brilliant, right because you
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: come from law, you have entertainment media in a sense
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: where your Emmy Award winning work for CNN, but you're
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: now seeing the tech sector.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Is this the inspiration now for Yes We Code?
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: Because when I'm hearing, I'm thinking, you've now seen it,
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: but your advocacy is how.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: Do I now invote change?
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: And when we think invoke and change, it always starts
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: with the youth. And so this is this kind of
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: the inspiration for Yes We Code.
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know it is.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Yes We Code is something that Print and I put
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: together early days trying to figure out how to begin
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: to make a difference in that sector, and then it
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: became dream core tech and now itstream dot org tech.
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: I'm now at a.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Place where my visibility into what's going on is scaring me.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: You start spending enough time with not with like these
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: tech giants, you know, the people who are really I mean,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: they're basically laying the groundwork for a different human civilization.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, you think about you mentioned being a family guy.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: I have an eighteen month old baby girl, okay, to
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: show you how technology is going to change her whole
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: entire life. Her first crush in you know, five, six,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: seven years, it's not probably not going to be like
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: a pop star or rock star or dashing cartoon character.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: It's probably going to be an AI.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: It's probably going to be an artificially intelligent being that
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: she can interact with like that's that's not how we
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: grew up. When it's time for her to have kids,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: given where biotech is going, in thirty thirty five years,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: she might just be able to open up her laptop.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: And design my grandkids.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, in eighty ninety years, when she's buried, she might
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: be buried on Mars. I mean, when you look at
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: what's going on with private space flight, when you look
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: at what's going on with biotech, what's going on with
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: quantum computing, which is gonna accelerate AI. These people are
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: creating a whole new human civilization. With I didn't say
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: million dollars, billion dollars. These are trillion dollar industries that
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: are just getting started with very little black and brown participation.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: And so I look at that and I think to myself, Okay,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: first of all, we need to take this seriously.
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: Not just oh, AI is gonna take my job. AI
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: is gonna you know, they.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Have racist robots profiling me. Okay, that's that we need
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: to protect against the negative. But we're so oppressed man,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: and traumatized and hurt that we're very threat sensitive. Oh
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: what's a I gonna do? Is gonna hurt me? But
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: we are not opportunity sensitive. How can it help me?
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: How can I get on the ground floor. How can
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: I experiment with these technologies and build the next Disney
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: on my laptop? How can I actually use this combined
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: with what black folks.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Are great at.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Look look at what we've been able to create with
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: literally nothing. We took two turntables in a microphone and
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: took over the planet. That's not much technology. This technology
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: as creative as we are. If we're not scared of it,
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: if we say we're gonna grab it, use and own
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: it on the future, own the future and what's amazing
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: to me is to see people who because they don't
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: come from that oppression, they don't come from that trauma,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: they just think.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: It's their right to build the future and we don't.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: And so we even we can't even call it racism
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: yet because it's not like we're banging on the door
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: and they're saying no Negroes allowed.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: If you're not banging on the door, don't even know
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: the door to bang on exactly bang on.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: So you know, it's like, you know, like like with
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Black Wall Street, Like Black Wall Street, we build Black
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Wall Street and they burned it down, Well, that's racism.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: But what if we never built it, what if we
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: never even gave ourself permission to build it? Is that
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: racism or is that internalized self limitation, oppression, trauma and pain?
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: And so what I'm saying is never will there be
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: a bigger opportunity for black wealth creation ever, ever, ever
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: in the next five to ten years.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: In the technology space, and.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Even if you don't have an advanced degree in AI,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: there's going to be so many industries that are built
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: around it and built into it. Whatever you're doing, you
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: to be adding AI to it anyway, And to me,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: I would have never thought this way. But Felicia Horwitz
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: opened a door. I got a chance to meet people
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: I would never met. Also, Robert Smith opened the door.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: I got a chance to do stuff with him. I
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: would have never got a chance to do, you know,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: working with him and Jay Z and those guys to
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: build a reform alliance to help people go out to
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: a jail. I'm doing do gooder stuff as a lawyer
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: in the not for profit space, but I'm meeting all
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: these titans who want a help, and then rather than
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: just writing a check, they're like, here, come here, let
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: me teach you something. Felicia Howitz, Hey, let me come here.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Robert Smith, let me show you something. Just being around
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Robert Smith without him saying anything, made me a better person.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Just watching him and how he talks to his staff,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: The level of respect, the level you know he's not
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: respect of you. Better do this, you better do that.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: He just he's at this level and he expects you
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: to be at this level. So even if you didn't
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: know you could be at this level, all of a sudden,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: you said me, you just want to just to be
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: in a conversation.
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: You coming up with stuff you didn't even know you
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: knew like so being.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Able to be around people like that, working with jay
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Z to build a Reform Alliance to get people out
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: of prison. I was with jay Z in a board
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: meeting for the Reform Alliance. Now, I mean to be rude,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: but I know a lot about criminal justice stuff.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: I'm a lawyer.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: I've been doing this for thirty years. So I said,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: the one place I don't have to worry about jay.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Z beating me the home game for you.
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: It's a home game for me. I'm not worried about
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: jay Z. And this this is my territory. So you know,
• 26:04
  Speaker 9: my team had come up with stuff and we were
• 26:06
  Speaker 9: presenting on me, and I knew my stuff was tight.
• 26:08
  Speaker 9: I'm like, I'm impressing jay Z. I know this dude
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: is proud to.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Get And after I finished talking, you just just looking
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: at me, just looking at me. And we've been talking
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: about probation and parole and supervision reform, how we're gonna
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: perform supervision so folks don't get sent back on for
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: no reason, and it's.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Gonna change, and he just looked at me.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: He's just like, how many people in this room were
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: supervised into being better in the room got dead quiet.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: We're like, oh oh uh. He says, is anybody here?
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: He's not the only billionaire in the room. It's a
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: whole bunch of billionaires that he's helped organize all in
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: the room.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: And he said, did did you did you? Did you?
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Did anybody here get supervised into being better? Or did
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: you get mentored into being better? He says, why are
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: you talking to us about fixing supervision? You should be
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: turning all these programs into mentorship program I was like,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: oh my god, we've been working this stuff for twenty years.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Nobody had even realized you're basically polishing a turd, Like
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: the whole thing from the beginning can never be fixed.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: This dude comes in and this what the thing about
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: black billionaires. You can be a white billionaire and just
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: be smart in one direction. To be a black billionaire,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: you got to have genius on top of genius, wrapped
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: up in genius deep fright in some more genius. So
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: you're going to be smart and so many different key
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: word is deep front. Yeah, And so you know, just
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: being exposed to these guys and how they think and
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: how free their minds are. But also you know, they
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: don't let a lot of bs around them.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: You know, you have to be like a bionic crab
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: if you're black, you know what I mean.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Because to be that crab, try I got out of the barrel.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: You have so many people trying to pull you down.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: And also you got to put many people on your
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: back from your community, for your family.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: You have to be a bionic craft.
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: That's what.
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: So we talked to Timbland and he was saying that
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: he's like, you know, do you ever find it weird
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: that like all of our billionaires is like Oprah one
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: billion dollars at that time, Kanye one billion dollars? Did
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: he one billion dollars? Jay Z one point five billion dollars?
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: Riona one billion. He's like, everybody's like one billion, two billion.
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: Robert Smith's a outlive, but even he's at nine billion.
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: You got random people that you never heard of, thirty
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: seven billion, fifty eight. But he was like to me,
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: jay Z is already fifty billion dollars because he's like
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: he's so exceptional, there's no way it's the only worth
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: one billion, Like he won every Olympic medal possible, and
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: the guy like just a random crypto guy is fifteen
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: billion that you never heard of that's thirty years old.
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: So what you're saying is right and is true on
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: a variety of different standpoints. That the level of exceptional
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: that you have to be as a black person. It's
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: hard to articulate because even the successful people in the
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: grand scheme of things are not really as successful as
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: they should be. But they realize that this really like
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: underachieved their counterparts relative to the level of success that
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: they've actually achieved, the influence that they've actually been able to.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: It's called the Puff thing.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: When we're talking to Puff and he's like, guys, I'm
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: in rooms that you haven't gotten to yet. And then
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: I still am kind of the outlier and I'm seeing
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: things that I can't even explain yet, right, and so
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: he's got to kick down doors for us to now
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: come into the room. But it's a fight that we're
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: looking at him like this is the highest level. There's
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: so many years we're looking at our entertainers and athletes,
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: this is the highest level, not realizing that.
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: You realize that it's not the highest level, a lower level.
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: But let me ask you this, as far as speaking
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: to people at the highest level. Jeff Bezos, I think
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: he's the third richest person in the world currently.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Today today can change the mom.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Don't don't bet against him, definitely, And that's divorced. By
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: the way, he's third divorced, so she is I think
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: the third wealthiest woman. So it's like, so you cut
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: doesn't have he's still number three.
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: So I want to talk about this, but first, so
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: you were awarded the Courage and Civility Yes Award in
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: twenty twenty one.
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: What is that?
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: Can you kind of explain what that actually means? Then
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: we can go into the grant.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: You know, Jeff Bezos and Laurence Sanchez, his partner, decided
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: they wanted to give people some incentive for working across
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: the aisle, working with different races, different political people, whatever.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: And because all the incentives are to not do that.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: You know, the incentives are the more you can put
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: down the other side, the more attention you get away,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: you know, the whole game. And so they decided to
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: create this award. That's an annual award. It's one hundred
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: million dollars a year. It's not to the individual, so
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: it's not like I have a hundred million dollars now
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: I'm a rich person.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: You gotta hunt let me exactly exactly like.
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: I for you exactly.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Nobody's ever said that except Deck. Seriously, I'm like, I
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: do not have a hundred million dollars.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: That's for me.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: It's it's for charity, you know, to support charitable organizations.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Basically gave gave me the right to direct one hundred
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: million dollars of his charity charitable dollars to causes that
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: that I believe it.
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: Don't you feel fit?
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: I feel fit with with no board or oversight. I
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: don't have to go back and not handcuffed to me,
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: handcuffs whatever. And it's really radical because you know, a
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: lot of times these billionaires, when they do want to
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: do some some good adults set up a big foundation
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: and then the foundation is going to hire a bunch
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: of people. And now I went to college. Now I
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: all have big you know, suit loans, payoffs, they got
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: to get big salaries, and they got all have laptops.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: And by time fish with all that, most of the
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: money is paying for the foundation, you know what I mean,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: and the people and not getting much.
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: We need to discuss this in Aruba.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Agree, Yeah, we gotta gotta redo our mission statement. We're
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: gonna bring in fifteen consultants for that, and he's just like,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: could we have twenty cents in the hood. So uh
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: so it was really radical for him to do that.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: And he also picked a chuffles andres and uh and
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: he picked all the part and they're gonna pick some more.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: But what was so amazing about it to me was
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: that the way it came about. I told you, Felicia Horwitz,
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: it you know, got me in the room. And then
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I had a TV show called Redemption Project. We were
• 32:39
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• 32:42
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  Speaker 5: You and your mom kive me a lot trying to
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  Speaker 3: So, so dian bon first Burg saw the show, and
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  Speaker 4: Can you put that on the notes?
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Just like a situation like a Dovo's type of situation exactly,
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• 33:29
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  Speaker 3: of us there. And when you get there, it's a
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: totally different culture. You may as well be on Neptune.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: It's like completely different how they talk and how they interact.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: But instantly this woman comes over and grabs me by
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: the hand, and she's like the queen mother, which I
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: didn't know at the time of all Sign Valley, everybody
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: loves Diane bon Furstenburg and so all of a sudden,
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: without me realizing it, again doing good, this woman noticed
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: me and she took me by the hand directly of bezos.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: And it's like people like like trying to figure out,
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: like it's like it's like double Dutch. She was trying
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: figure out when they can get in and say something,
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: and she just WHOA, you should meet this young man.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: And so because she tapped me on the shoulder, he
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: said okay, And so you know, we sat.
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: Down and talked and the good thing about it was.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: I was in a good place emotionally, I had some
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: good therapy, I wasn't stressing out. I didn't have a
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: whole big agenda. I didn't expect to meet him in
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: the first place, and so we just started talking from.
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: The heart, and UH.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Mentioned that I had left the Obama White House under
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: fire from the right wing, which is the whole other
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: part of my story. And then somebody who was overhearing
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: and said, yeah, Glenn Back and started saying bad stuff
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: about people a Fox, And I said, oh, a second,
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Glenn Back is my friend now, And Jeff said what
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: I said, Yeah, Glenn Beck is my.
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: Friend, Glenn Black. You got a relationship with one Back?
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: I do, I did.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: I don't agree with him on anything politically, but because
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: he he had been the person who had been so
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: hard on me when the Obama administration that ultimately decided
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: to resign.
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: What happened with this Obama situation?
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I was working for Obama and I was
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: working on clean energy and that type of stuff. The
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: right wing really wanted to stop Obama. They just hated him.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: And at that point, he's the most popular human ever born,
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like he got a Nobel
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Prize just for inhaling and exhaling. I mean, you know
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: what I mean, like just I mean just literally because
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: he exists. I mean, it's never happened before in the
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: history of the Nobel Peace Prize, you know, sixty votes
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: in the Senate, Pelosi run the House for him. I mean,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: this dude is an unstoppable juggernaut. And so the right
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: wing I figure out, well, what can you do to
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: stop this guy? So they try to analyze him. They
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: can't do anything to him. They look at all his
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: cabinet secretaries, just trying to find anybody with any kind
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: of dirt. So he get all the way down to me.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: I'm a special advisor. Now I'm look, this is a
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: show for business people. Just understand just one thing about politics.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: This is you got to meet political people. Just understand
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: one thing. The shorter the title, the more power the
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: person has. Okay, president, vice president, you know what I mean.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: So the shorter your title, the more power you have.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: The longer your title, the less power you have. So
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: if you're the secretary of you know, under secretary, deputy
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: under secretary, the.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Longer your title, less power you have. You know what
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: My title was one for Obama. My title green Energy Specialist.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Say listen, Special Advisor for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: at the White House Council on Environmental Quality.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: That was my title.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, so it's like I was one step above an intern.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: And yet the media was so fascinated by having this
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: black guy who's from the Oakland area, who's doing all
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: this stuff with the solar panels or whatever. It's mediagenic,
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: so they had to shorten me down to green jobs.
• 36:51
  Speaker 9: Are Czar Oohar one says was the bizarre that did it.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: That was the putting a bullseye of forehead. And so
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Glenn back then decides, Okay, I'm gonna get this guy.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: I found him, came him all the way down to
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: the special advisor level. And here's this one black guy
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: who used to suit cops in Oakland, and I was
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: I was a fight the power.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Radical black activists.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: I make no apology for it because while I was
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: in my twenties, they were building prisons coast to coast.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: They were right after Rodney King. I make no apologies
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: for it.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: I was on the left side of Pluto when I
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: would have been further left back and figured it out.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: And I've never hidden that, I've never apologized for it.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: If you don't like what my politics were, then the
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: politics where the big people should have been different. Y'all
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: politics are putting us in prison. We don't have to
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: like that, we don't have to go along with that.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: But now I'm in a white house.
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: So what'd you do? What they find?
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: So they found that I was a left wing activist.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: They found that I've been in you know, socialist collectives.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: They found I was you know, protested and cops.
• 37:55
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: They made up some stuff as well. But in those
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: days you can be controversial being white house. This is
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Brock Obama's white house. And we were trying to be
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: a clean, queaky clean and so Obama's people said, you know,
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: we want to stay.
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: We want you to stay, We want to fight.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: I said, no, you don't. You don't want me to stay.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: I'm to say, right now, if you think this little
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: stuff and they've found in trouble, wait till they really
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: started digging.
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: I was at every protest you can imagine.
• 38:19
  Speaker 9: So I said, that's him again, that's him again, that's
• 38:25
  Speaker 9: got the millionaire march.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: I was not. I didn't I was I had the flu.
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: Obama was right.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: I think he was.
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think he was. Common They made that a
• 38:32
  Speaker 8: big deal.
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: Exactly, he's got the millionaire a million people.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: What's yeah, Yeah, I had the flug.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: I couldn't go but so so Glenn Beck used that
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: to just I mean, they did I think seventeen eighteen
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: shows on me alone.
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: Like propaganda, propaganda, prop extreme exactly wing the communist exactly,
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: exact commnists. And this is this is the guy that
• 38:59
  Speaker 7: has Obamas trying to good energy.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: Man, they made him back.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: I'm just trying to give like solar panels to the hood.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Like now, I'm like, you know, I'm like stalling our mouth.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: So so I resign.
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: And you know it was tough, man, I was.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: You know, that was one of the toughest things I
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: ever did, because, of course you want to be there
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: with him, with Obama. Of course you want to all
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: your dreams have come true. You're at this pannacle of power,
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: and the next day you're gone. And I'll tell you something.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: We had blackberries in those days, and when I was
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: working for Obama, my phone was literally just buzz.
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: I mean, I couldn't eat dinner.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: I couldn't be in the shower come back thirty messages.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: I mean it was just buzz buzz buzz, buzz buzz.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: And and after I was resigned from the White House,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: I was like, it's just my bad.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Number.
• 39:54
  Speaker 9: Who is I was like, it's my bad to something
• 39:57
  Speaker 9: that they cut me off to be.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: Paying my attention.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, nobody reaching out and uh so Glenn Glenn Beck,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: uh you literally called said you know, I have a
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: scalp number one, ban Jones is a scalp number one.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna get more number one.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: I took a scalp like yeah, like he told you that,
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: he said on the air to the whole world. And
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: so so when my name is so now I'm talking
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: to Jeff Bezels about my life when this story comes up,
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: somebody who knows said yeah, and Glenn Beck, like you know,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: took him out and I said, hold on. I said,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Glenn Beck is a friend of mine. And Bethel said
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: what I said, Yeah, he's a friend of mine. He said,
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: how is that possible? I said, Look, I had small
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: children at that time, and I didn't want them to
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: feel that there was some mean guy named Glenn Beck
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: that hurt their daddy because we don't agree on stuff.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: So I re shot to toe beec and I said, look,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: I don't care about the public stuff, but you and
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: I need to sit down and talk man to man.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: And he was shocked to hear from me.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: And we sat down and uh we you know, he
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: acknowledged that, uh that you know, of course a couple
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: of years had gone by, he could acknowledged that, Uh,
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: he would have handle it differently if he had to
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: do it over again.
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: And that was enough for me.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: So I'm telling the story to Bezos and Bethel said,
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't think I could do that. I
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: really don't think I could do that. He said, I
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: need to get to know you. He said, that's he said,
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: that's that's that's very interesting to me. And so we
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: just started talking about redemption. I said, listen, man, I
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: go into prisons where young brothers have literally killed other
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: young brothers, and I don't block their blessing from me
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: based on that they've sold poison to our children. And
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: I if I'm going to relate to you based on
• 41:54
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• 41:56
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• 42:00
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• 42:02
  Speaker 4: What are we gonna do? How can you be great?
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: Now?
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: If I can go into prisons and do that, then
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: I look like a big phony.
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: If I then say, but only if you look just
• 42:14
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• 42:14
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• 42:21
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• 42:25
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• 42:28
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• 42:31
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• 42:39
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• 43:03
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• 43:08
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  Speaker 3: I'm serious about this stuff. And then Lauren Sanchez, his partner.
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  Speaker 3: You know, she's Latina. She comes from the same communities
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: that I'm talking about, and I think it really moved
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: her to see somebody like for real fighting. And by
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: the way, because I didn't hold all these Republicans in
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: a negative light, I was able to work with them
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: later on a bunch of other stuff. And anyway you
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: pass bills stuff like that. So at the end of
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: the day, how did I get one hundred million dollars
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: at a black woman therapist, black women Felicia Horowitz who
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: got me in the door, a Jewish woman Diane von Furstenberg,
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: who brought me over to Jeff and Latina Lauren Sanchez,
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: who said, we need to do something with you. So
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: like I just talked about, would do something. And so
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: that's the other thing that people need to talk more
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: about is often women behind the scenes that are making
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: a way for men, that are opening doors, that are
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: helping out, that are seeing more in you.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: Than you see in yourself, that are giving me these opportunities.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: And then okay, well, now you see Van Jones and
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Jeff Bezos shaking hands on stage. There's a whole lot
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: that went on behind the scenes to make that even possible.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: And then also.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Doing that inner work meant that when I had the conversation,
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: I wasn't having a conversation about, Oh, I'm a victim,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: I was discriminated against, I was mistreated. I had a
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: conversation about possibility and redemption and forgiveness, which I think
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: is the universal language of love that can create all
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: kinds of miracles that certainly did in my life.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: So what's the goal for the fun now? Right?
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: The one hundred million is there, and I would you know,
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: especially in our community, when anything is awarded, there's a microscope.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: What are you going to do? When is it going
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: to happen? How fast can it happen? Right? Where?
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: I don't think with the chef and Dally Parton, It's
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: going to be a similar situation too.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: So do you.
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: Feel that that type of pressure or angst when it
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: comes to it and of the plans for it.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Look, I immediately it just almost had to turn my
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: phone off because so many people, you know, they didn't
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: bum rush to your point.
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: They didn't.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: They didn't bum rush the chef or Dolly, but they
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: definitely bum rushed me. I want to use the money
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: to disrupt the incarceration industry as an investor, as a philanthropist,
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: like I'm going, I'm changing even before your eyes, you know,
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: from being an advocate, a lawyer, not for profit guy,
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: I see myself now more as being somebody I'm not
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: trying to move Congress. I'm trying to move capital and
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to move capital into companies that can disrupt
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: the prison industry, that can disrupt the pollution in our communities,
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: they can disrupt poverty. And so you know, the plans
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: for the for the money, you know, there's I think
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: we did an article about it about it recently, but
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: you know, we built an incubator to help company that
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: want to disrupt the incarceration industry. The incarceration industry is
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: an eighty billion dollar a year industry, ninety billion, ninety billion.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: Every year just to lock us up.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: There's zero alignment of financial incentives for anybody in that
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: industry to help us. It's only to help hurt us.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: So first, if you're a warden of a prison, public, private,
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: I don't care. You have ten guys in your care
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: for ten years, one hundred thousand dollars a piece. I'm
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: not good at man, that's a lot of money. Okay,
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: So you spent that much money locking these ten guys up.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: If they leave on Friday, and God forbid all ten
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: of them kill somebody, and they're back in your care
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: Monday morning, you don't get fired.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: Nobody asks you, wait a minute.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: You spend how many millions of dollars on these guys
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: and they didn't do any better than that, You don't
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: get fired at all. Or better case scenario, suppose a
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: year from now, all ten of them win a Nobel
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: Peace Prize. You don't get a raise, you don't get
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: a promotion, you don't get a thank you. There's no
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: alignment of financial incentives at all. You're in charge of
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: all these people, and no matter what happens, and you're
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: going to have a job, and in fact you'll get
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: more money. They keep coming back. So that's an incarceration industry.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Well I'll call on a second now that have more
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: of a billionaire perspective. I'm looking at this industry, say, well,
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: on a second. They disrupted the taxi industry with Uber
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: and Lyft, different technology, different model. They disrupted hotels with Airbnb,
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: different technology, different model. They disrupted all of retail with
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: Amazon dot Com, different technology, different model. They disrupted the
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: whole dirty energy thing with solar panels and electric vehicles
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: and wind turbines. Different technology, different model. How come nobody
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: has tried to disrupt the incarceration industry, the industry that
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: does the most damage to our community, that makes the
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: most money off of our payment suffering. They continue to
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: group produce over and over again, repeat customers through a
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: revolving door, and nobody's trying to disrupt it. Nobody's spent
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: a pen need to disrupt it. Nobody's created at one
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: incubator to put companies together. They can say, give me
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: that sister, give me that brother. I'll educate them, I'll
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: get them better nutrition. Nobody that's my job.
• 52:13
  Speaker 8: So how do what kind of companies would disrupt?
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Okay? Okay, So for instance, we built an incubator. Is
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: a company called RASA that we invested in, and we
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: can We can do that because he's made it as
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: a program related investment, so I'm not making money off
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: of it, but the fund you can return money to
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: the fund. So this is not evangels making money. But
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: this company called Rassa very simple. Uh, take something like
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: prison expungement of prison records. Okay in the states where
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: that's allowed. Well, if if you get your record expunge,
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: you can get any job in the world you want to.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: If you can't get your record expunge, you're going to
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: be stuck in a low level, which why a lot
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: of guys wind up going back to what they're doing
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: before because they.
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: Can't make no money.
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: So that's a part of the revolving door.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Well, why don't people take advantage of expungement because you
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: have to hire a lawyer and spend three to four
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars to get your record expunge in the states
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: where that's allowed, which means rich folk get their records
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: expunge and poor folk don't. So we put money into
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: a company that has an app that can get your
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: record expunge for five hundred dollars because they just basically,
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: you know, use AI and just automate the whole thing.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: And so we by reducing the cost way down. Now
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: way more people can get their records at sponge and so.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: But nobody wanted to bet on that company. What are
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: you talking about, Like, is that even a thing. There's
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: a massive market there, but nobody want to invest in
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: that company. So, so that's a company. Now they will
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: they're practically printing money now because somebody can change your
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: whole life even you know, you can do a gofund
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: me now and be able to do that in the
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: States where where they're operating. There's another one used to
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: be called conconnect. It's basically linked in AI powered LinkedIn
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: for formally incarcerated people because what happens is you come home,
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: they say, okay, go get a job. Well, you only
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: have so much everybody got only so much energy in
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: their little battery. Even the energizer bunny eventually runs out.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: How many times can you go and apply for a
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: job and get no no, no, no, no, no no
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: no no before you give up but with this company,
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: they changed the name recently, but it's usually called cond
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: CONNECTI if you want to want to google it. They
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: use AI to figure out very quickly, Okay, if you
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: got a home invasion thing on your record, you're probably
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: not going to be doing cable installing. Okay, So there's
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: certain things you're just not going to do. So they
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: figure out very instantly based on your record, based on
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: what you want to do. You know, where are they hurting,
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: and so it radically accelerates the process by which people
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: leave jail and get a job. But because it turns
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: out formally incarcerated people, if they get a job, they're
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: very loyal. So it's actually to the benefit of the
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: employer to get people from that population because they don't
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: feel they can just go quit, quit and go get
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: twelve more jobs. So you're gonna save a bunch of
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: money hiring people coming home because you're not gonna have
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: to replace that person. So it's a benefit all the
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: way around. But using technology to get a win win
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: win for the employer. So these companies did not have
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: an incubator, didn't have that kind of help, so we
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: built that for them. So people are like, well, what
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: are you doing with the money? I said, guys, I
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: could just pass the money out and just give everybody
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: a book bag, you know what I mean, like turkeys,
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I mean, none wrong with that,
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: nothing wrong with that. We give back, you know what
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, and everybody all is so wonderful or whatever.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: I can take a bunch of pictures, a bunch of
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: kids or whatever. But then the next year the money's
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: gone and it cans, you know, another book back.
• 55:41
  Speaker 8: It's not sustainable.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: It's not sustainable and so and we have plenty of those.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: And by the way, the other people can do that.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: And so I'm taking a lot of heat from people like, well,
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: what's he doing the money? What's he doing with the money?
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: The good thing is I'm fifty five. I'm not twenty five.
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: I've had thirty years to watch a lot of stuff fail.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: From which I was doing that we thought was gonna
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: have a good outcome, didn't have a good outcome.
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: And it's good to be in my fifties. Now.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: I'm not working on my resume. I got a great resume.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: I'm working on my oh beed, I'm working on my
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: oh bit. What did I do that really made a difference,
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: whether I got the credit for it or not. What
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: did I do there? Like my father, you know, he
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: really made a difference. I still can't go home without
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: somebody come up to me in the convenience store at Walmart.
• 56:29
  Speaker 8: You will at your own son.
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: He used to beat my ass with a paddle.
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, like, I mean the type of difference maker
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: we need. You know what I mean.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: So for me, like, I take this very very seriously.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: If there's some way for us to so, then if
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: we bet on these companies and they do well, we
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: get the money back, we can bet on another one.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to build.
• 56:51
  Speaker 8: It like a VC model.
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: That's what you're implementing. V. How much money have you
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: have you distributed so far?
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: We still have more than half the capital, more than
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: the kind does it start every year it's the same
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: investment or is it just one hundred Of.
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: Course I have one hundred and lump sum.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: Then and if I haven't deployed all the capital, all
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: the initial capital in ten years now it is in
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: eight years, then it goes back. So basically, so basically
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: here's one hundred million dollars. You have have ten years
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: to figure it out.
• 57:22
  Speaker 7: Is the money growing, Is it an investment or is
• 57:24
  Speaker 7: it just well we'll see what I'm saying, Like the
• 57:26
  Speaker 7: fifty that you haven't spent, Yeah yeah.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: Let me Yeah, that's that's all. And you know, stocks
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: and bonds that type of stuff. But the stuff that
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: we're making bets and listen, so.
• 57:37
  Speaker 7: All your money is going into companies, into private company,
• 57:39
  Speaker 7: you're not putting money into like.
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: Well, programs. That's the center of the of the bulls eye.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: But my real game I'm playing has to do with
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: how can I manipulate financial incentives to get better outcomes
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: trock community. That's the real game I'm playing. So if
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: I can figure out financial incentives for people to use
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: technolology to help people come home from jail, I'll play
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: that game. But here's another game, which is not a business.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: There's a brother's name, Pastor Carl Day in Philadelphia. Yeah,
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: I mean they call it Philadelphia for you know a reason.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: And it's not like it was when I was coming up.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: People aren't killing each other over turf and drugs like
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: you know, percocets, Like the drug trade is not what
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: it used to be. It's pills and percocets, it's not
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: people are making people killing each other over just disis.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: Oh you know, somebody posted something on a on an
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: Instagram or TikTok and and and and so there's a
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: lot of just random chaotic violence because people just don't
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: have much direction. And I met this guy, Pastor Carl Day,
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: and he's just a genius. I mean, he's formally incarcerated,
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: you know, found you know, God in prison, came out.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: He's like the pastor of the hood. And when when
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: you know, gunfire goes off, grandmoms will call him befo.
• 58:52
  Speaker 8: They call the cops where is he at North Philly?
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: All over Philly. But in fact he's one of the
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: few people that can be all over Philly. And that's
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: the crazy thing about him, Like he's he's not turfed
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: out anywhere. Everybody respects him. And so I was talking
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: about it what he was doing, and he educated me.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: You know, he said, all these a lot of these
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: anti violence programs, they're not even touching the kids who
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: are violent. They might have five hundred kids in the program.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: These are like b students, you know what I mean,
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: they haven't been violent their whole life. And then they're
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: hiring people who went to college with whiteboards and stuff,
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: who also are not violent. So these big programs are
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: basically getting b students after school activities. And he's paying
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: off student loans for college graduates. But if a truly
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: violent kid walked in there, they call the cops, you
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. So he's like this, He's like,
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: he's like, hey, listen, I'm trying to I'm trying to
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: go see my grandma's you know. So it's not it's
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: not honest. But this dude is talking to the actual
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: cats that actually have their hands on guns, who are
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: actually doing stuff that everybody's scared of. And he said,
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: if I could just have one hundred days with these guys,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: I could help them turn their lives around. Say well,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: what do you need to go? He'd be able to
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: pay them. I said, what do you mean pay them?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: He goes, well, look, these college kids are getting paid
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: on violence. Everybody's getting paid on violence except the violent people.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: We want to get a thousand dollars spent to talk
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: about one hundred thousand or a million dollars to talk
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: about the people talking about the people talking about the kids.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: And nobody's talking to the kids but.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: Me I said, you know what, let me make a
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: bet on you. So we wrote a substantial check for
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: him to start a pilot, just prove that at a
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: lower dollar amount he could save more lives. So what
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: he did was he just once the guys. He knew
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: who they were. So I'll pay you to come off
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: the corner. I'll pay you to sit down here with
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: me every day. We're going to go through this one
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: hundred day plan. We're gonna do all this self improvement anger,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: all this sort of stuff, and you can get an
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: actual job.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: And what crazy thing was?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: One of the guys like, I can't get a job.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: And I said, what do you You can't get a job
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: because I can't get a job. Well, yeah, you got
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: credinal record, but no, I can't get a job. What
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: are you talking about? He goes, if you got me
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: a job at subway, my ops would drive by and
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: see me in there, and they'd drive back by and
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: shoot the whole place up. I can't get a job.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: What are you talking about? Pastor said, warehouses? What if
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: we got you a job from ten pm to six
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: am in a warehouse?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: You get paid that way? The guy said, I'll do.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: It eighty eight percent. Well, first of all, nine seven
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: percent of the kids who went to that program are
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: employed or have their own LLCs. One hundred percent of
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: retro to vote, they all have their driver's license or whatever.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: The three percent is the one kid that got killed. Okay,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: so it's really life or death like that. But what
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: we were able to demonstrate was incentivize peace. If these
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: are the people who are having the problems, put the
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: money in their pocket, them into a program, help them out,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: get them a job.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 6: It's appropriate. Now these folks.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: Are, they're employed, they have their own businesses, they're using
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: their leadership in a different way.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: And it was a radically.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: Less expensive than these other programs that literally are just
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: counting the number of noses of people that they talked to.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: We had one hundred contacts with troubled youth contacts. That's
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: not saving any lives. So again, what's the game I'm playing.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out. Okay, can I change the
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: financial incentive on the street. Incentivise you to invest in yourself,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: don't yell at you and tell you what you should do.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: Incentivis you to do it.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 7: Financial Like somebody said something like you don't scare a
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 7: straight program. And the idea is to take kids to
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 7: jail and to scare them so they don't go to jail.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 7: But it's like, instead of trying to scare somebody, won't
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 7: you try to inspire them. Yeah, So instead of invest it,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 7: they'll take them to corporate, take them to Africa, take
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 7: them to different things where they can actually expand their
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 7: horizons and like you said, mentorship and as a post,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 7: they're taking them to the.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 8: Worst place possible. We as a deterrent to to not go.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 7: And once you said and like you said, most of
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 7: those kids that are going to ski straight are even
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 7: going to jail anywhere exactly, they came.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: To middle school and it was like a permission slip.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: I'm like, like a field, I don't go home and
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: ask my can I go to jail?
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: This is just not gonna work. It's not gonna work
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: And one of the percentages that are very important that
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: you're enough because the program you just described was beat
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: the block. Yes, beat the block fifty percent of though
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: the people are starting their own business.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: Yes, So that changes it.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: And so now I'm looking at this as an ecosystem
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: that you've built right, we got the Reform Alliance, and
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: you got the fund which is creating an incubator for technology,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: and I got a question about that. But you also
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: have another system that's keeping people from going to the
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: system exactly. And so on your vision board is this
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: how you planned it? Or are these things happening? And
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: I can improve on this, I can change this, I
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: can change this.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: I'm learning as I go. I didn't understand a lot
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: of things, man, Like, that's the question a business person
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: would ask, right, And I didn't know to think that way.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 6: You know, when you come.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: Out of kind of rapid response mode, grassroots mode for
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: thirty years, you just kind of like, oh, here's the
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: opportune here.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 6: You aren't thinking in a business way.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: And so in the two years that I've had the grant,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: I've actually realized, Okay, some stuff I'm doing doesn't make sense,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: Like that's not the right way. I've had to bring
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: in different advisors. So I wish I could say, you know,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: if I was the dishonest person, I'd say, yes, you know,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: I had this master's strategy. I was going to build
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: this ecologics and was like no. It was like I
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: met some people that I thought were frankly deserving of
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: a bigger bet than they were getting.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 6: And then I learned, Now.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: Though.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: You know, there's a machine that needs to get built.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: It's going to take ten years to build. It's gonna
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: take a lot more than low money I have. But
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: I'm beginning to see a kind of a job's not jails,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: machine that needs to get built. And there's a way
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: that there can be some thilanthropic stuff. There can be
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: some VC stuff, there can be some enterprise, there can
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: be some technology. All the stuff I was doing with
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: protest signs and lawsuits and voting campaigns when I was
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: in my twenties and thirties, I think I can better
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: do with my pitchies and sixties with capital and building
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: a machine that can take some of those young folks
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: out of a pastor Carls beat the Block program. Wouldn't
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: it be amazing if we could move them? Okay, now
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: you're not in trouble anymore. You start your own little company.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: Now we'll put your company in an incubator. Now we
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: take the incubator. Now we can pass you up the line. Okay,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: now you're going to sign Valley. Okay, now you're going
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: to Davos, Right, that's what I want to do.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: Well, let me just follow out really quickly because it
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: happens in Philly, but it also can happen in New York.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: Yes, it could happen in Baltimore.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: Yes, once we get the pilot, right, once the pilot
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: is the incubation the part is interested in because I'm
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: and this is something that we've seen from private equity
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: and VC finding companies that we can actually put in
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: the pipeline.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: What's the challenges there? Right?
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: We find because a lot of times we want to
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: invest in people that look like us, yes, but we
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: have to have people that look like us that are
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: creating the companies that we can invest in.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: So it's the duality is it becomes a struggle, right Yeah.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: As an investor, you know, the pipeline problem is the
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: biggest problem, Like how do you find how do you
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: find great companies that somebody had already put all the
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: money into you, Like, you got to find a great
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: company right before they're going to prove themselves you can
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: get in uh, and then you got to be able
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: to support those portfolio companies so that they can actually
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: meet their full potential. And the thing is once you
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: put the money in there. You know, it's kind of
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: like different between dating and being married. When you're dating,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: you're getting all the good news, your diligence process, you're
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: doing all you can to try to figure out what's
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: really going on. Once you put the money, and then
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: you find out what's really happening, you're like, oh, lord, like,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: we got a bunch of problems fixing clean.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: Now we need to.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 6: Bring and so I'm learning, man, like, how did how?
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: How you do this?
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: But part of the pipeline problem that is solved for
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: us on this incubator because it's a a sister fund
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: called the Decarceration Fund, and they've already uh diligence I
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: think one hundred plus companies they want to investing in
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: about five. We invest in in four. So right now
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: we're kind of surfing along the back of their diligence process.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: But because we can bring capital, then you know it's
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: a good partnership there. But these are the type of
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: problems that you get into. Very few social change entrepreneurs
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: like myself have had access to this much unrestricted capital
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: to play these games with, to to make these kinds
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: of of of of investments and moves, and so I'm
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: learning a lot.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 8: Green took politics for a minute.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 7: So super PACs is something that I think is very interesting,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 7: and I think I had a conversation with one of
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 7: my friends, and you know, I feel like amongst young people,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 7: there's a strong disbelief of the political system because they've
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 7: seen black people vote for a long period of time,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 7: mostly democratic, and not much has really changed, or the
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 7: socio economic situation has definitely not changed, probably even has
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 7: gotten worse, And so a lot of people have the
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 7: frame of mind that voting is a waste of time.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 7: And I was saying that I don't agree with that,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 7: but I understand it because just voting just for the
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 7: sake of voting is not beneficial with no economic power
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 7: put behind it. So we interviewed a congressman and he
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 7: was saying that when he first got elected, from the
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 7: first thing he got elected, all the way to the
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 7: time that we interviewed him, he's gotten calls every single
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 7: day from super PACs. Everybody from the is really super packed,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 7: to the pro abortion super pac to the pro everybody's
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 7: given them, NRA, everybody right, and he's like the only
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 7: people that he's never gotten a phone call is a
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 7: black super pac. I don't know if there is any
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 7: black super PACs. So talk about that, because I don't
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 7: think that people are even fully educated to understand the
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 7: importance of that and the economics behind the politics, which
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 7: is actually, in my opinion, more important than any other
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 7: aspect of it.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: So this this is complicated because there's two there's two
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: different ways that politicians get approaching. They get approach based
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: on issues, stop police brutality. We don't believe in abortion,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: that's issues. And they get approach based on interest. Okay,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: I'm a coal company. I need you to pass loss
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: and support the coal industry my economic interests.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 6: I'm a solar company.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: I need you to pass to support the solar come
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: based on my economic interests as a solar manufacturer. For
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: most communities, most ethnic groups, frankly, they spend most of
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: their money on the second one. Like they go and
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: they say, pass tax breaks to help my business, tax
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: past regulations that will help my business. That's what eighty
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: percent of politics is. We don't have a coherent strategy
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: as black people to know what industries we're trying to protect.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: So for instance, suppose we decided, well, you black people
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: are going to own all of AI related entertainment. That's
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: what we're gonna do. We're gonna focus on that. We're
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: gonna launch companies based on that. We're gonna make sure
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: that our entertainers and our athletes are all built into that.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: That's our industry is entertainment meets AI. We're gonna build
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: the Disney of that. We're gonna build it the motown
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: of that.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: Now, when you call a politician, you're saying, look, pass
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: this law just to protect this industry. I'm going to
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: make a ton more money than I would have, and
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: I'll give you a donation. The fact that no black
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: people can do that gives you a sense of how
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: bad our strategy is.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 6: Like you have to pick Remember when I hope I
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 6: don't pick anybody else.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: Do you remember when the Ethiopians, like every time you
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: went to a parking garage, it was Ethiopians that was
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: It was just in California, But there was a time
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: when they had just targeted like parking garage.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 8: It's like the hotel and motel industry with Indians.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you pick something and then you dominate that, and
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: you protect that politically, and then you start putting your
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: kids into different schools and whatever you branch out from that.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: Our problem is we never have been able to figure
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: out how to dominate where we show up. So we
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: show up right now in the entertainment industry. That's really
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: where we show up the strongest. In sports and sports,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: so sports, music, entertainment, film, that whole thing.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: So all of our ability.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: So the Lebron comes out of that, Jacy comes out
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: of that, Tyler Perry comes out of that, Opra coomes
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: out of that. That's where we have been able to dominate.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: But there are other sectors in other industries that we
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: could dominate if we decided to do it. So I
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: just want to point out the mere fact that we're
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: talking about a super pac for issues for black issues
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: and not super pack for black business.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 8: I would say, so it's not a super pack for reparations.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 7: It should be a super pack for the music industry
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 7: to protect the artist. That's more beneficial than trying to
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 7: do a social I would issue.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: I would say that we should at least have a
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: double barreled approach. We need to do a better job
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: of getting government to help our businesses. That's all I'm saying.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: Government should be helping our businesses. Government should be helping
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: our entrepreneurs and not saying that people haven't thought about
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: that and tried. Is difficult, but that's going to give
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: you more of return on investment. That said, issues matter
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: to and we should have we should organize our money better,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: and I believe Charles Phillips and some other guys we're
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: working on that the last election cycle, to try to
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: organize black money around black issues. It's true if a
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: politicians they need to things, they need money in votes.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: Black people show up saying we'll give you votes, White
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: people saying will give you money, and so.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 8: They use here's my thing.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 7: I'm a registered independent good I lean towards Democratic social
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 7: issues pre liberal, I lean towards Republicans when it comes
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 7: to the economy. I personally feel that the Democratic Party
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 7: has used black people to get votes because, like you said,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 7: we have a lot of numbers in key states, so
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 7: that they pandered to the votes. They go to like
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 7: churches and they do the whole thing. But then that's it.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 7: It's like we just get the votes and that's it.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 7: Like you said, other groups will come with money, so
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 7: we need your votes to get elected, but then we're
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 7: going to actually cater our policy to the people that's
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 7: giving us the money. Everybody's kind of in on it.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 7: The people that's given them the money probably know that
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 7: as well. Only people that's kind of left out in
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 7: the whim are just black people because they just left
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 7: hopelessly voting over and over again, because it's been drilled
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 7: in our head like this is our pathway to succeed.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 7: It's like going to college, right, this is our pathway
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 7: to succeed until you realize, dam well, I have a
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 7: liberal arts degree, I'm unemployed, I'm thirty years old, and
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 7: I have one hundred thousand dollars doent loans. This didn't
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 7: work out the way that they told me it would.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I mean I'm gonna shock you and say
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: I don't disagree with anything you just said.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: Some stuff is.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: Frankly white racism, think of the certain outcomes. But some
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: stuff is bad Black strategy, and it's sometimes hard to
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: know where one starts on the other stops. We should
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: be much more strategic in how we vote and who
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: we support. Work when you create a situation where one
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: party can just take you for granted and the other
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: party can just write you off.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: Then you lose leverage. And so it's.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: Important that we actually and you know you Diddy and
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: other people. I'm not the only one that it said this.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: It's important that we are a lot smarter. What I
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: will say is as bad as things are for us,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: if we stop voting, they will get worse. That's why
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: I said, you don't vote to get what you want
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: any business for that. But if you don't vote, you
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: can lose what you've got. And so we do have
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: to continue to vote.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: Listen, people want to vote for Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, Green Party.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: I don't care who you vote for, but you do
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: need to vote. Because my view is people say it's
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: a waste of time. It's not waste of a lot
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: of time. It's like waste of an hour or two,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: which you're probably going to use. Anybody's been an hour
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: on your social media today, So it's not the waste
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: that much time. But I think it's important. But here's
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: what I would I want us to have a strategy.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: That's what's missing. And the strategy can't always be about
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: who's going to be the president or the mayor. That's
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: only going to affect so much. It can get a
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: lot worse for you have the wrong one, but it's
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: not gonna get that much better for you your other
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: right one if you don't have other stuff in place.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: That's why you guys are so important. We have to
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: put other stuff in place. And by the way, if
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: we build a black business class, it's gonna be a
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: lot more black conservatives because you're gonna have a lot
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: of black business people are gonna want to vote for
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: the party that's more for business. So we're gonna have
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: a little bit more political diversity in the community. And
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: that's okay. But what I but here's the thing that
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: I'm concerned about. Let's go back what I said at
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: the very beginning. If we're going to have a new
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: human civilization with all this new technology being built by
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: people who don't look like us, trying to solve problems,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: they're not our problems. Making money off of stuff that
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: you know is never going to come back to our community.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: That's a big problem. That's a big problem. That's a
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: multi trillion dollar problem that we can't vote our way
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: out of. We're gonna we're gonna have to Nothing good
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: happens for black people on accident. Nothing good happens to
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: black people accidentally. It requires planning, It requires persistence, it
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: requires purpose. And in this century, the last century, you
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: can vote in protests and maybe you'll get something done.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: In this century, you're gonna have to launch businesses. You're
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: gonna have to attract capital that's going to use this
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: technology to help us either get us more money or
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: solve our problems. That's what I'm trying to do. We
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: have problems with the criminal justice system. I want to
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: launch businesses. I want to move capital that can disrupt
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: that whole industry. I want all ninety billion that's supposedly
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: being spent to keep our community safe. I want it
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: in the pockets of black entrepreneurs who actually can't keep
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: our community safe. And until that happens, I'm not gonna stop.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: That's different than saying I want to I want to
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: outlaw police brutality. It's a different conversation. I'm gonna build
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: a set of business interests to fight the other business
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: interests and then use government to support my business interests
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: over theirs.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: We've never done that before.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: And so if we can take our political genius, if
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: we can take our entertainers and our cultural influencers, and
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: then put the business people at the table erase or chalkboard.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: While we used to do it and design that strategy,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: we can win. Yeah, and voting will be a part
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: of it. It just won't be the only It'll be
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: a smaller part of it than it used to be.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: Extremely impressive.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: My last question, I just want just a final thought
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: for you, because I know you're gonna close it up
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 5: a little bit. You talked about legacy. You came into it,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 5: wanted to be greater than your dad. Tough mission, yeah,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 5: impossible mission.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: But you are creating a legacy for yourself.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 5: And so I'm wondering as you're navigating through the space
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: you did nonprofit, now you're in business. You've been in
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: some rooms that most people will never be in. What
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: are some of the biggest lessons that you've learned now
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 5: in the world of business.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 8: M hmm.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 6: I'm worthy. I'm worthy. I had a lot of.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 8: Shame, self doubt, impasta syndrome, shame, shame for what.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: My dad was tough on me. He was tough. I
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: admire him.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: I'll never catch him.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: He was tough on me, and I was sensitive and nerdy, goofy, bookish,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: and he was like a big you know, like you do,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: and it made me feel bad about myself.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 4: I didn't think I was good enough to to be
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: his son.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: And so I realized I probably spent thirty years trying
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: to overcompensate and improve and prove and do and do,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: and just trying to just to catch him, but also
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: to impress him. You know, hey, you know, I may
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: I've been a football player and this type of stuff,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: but like I'm all right, I'm I've found out later
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: that he was always saying good stuff behind my back
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: the whole time. He liked me, but he just thought
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: that just cussing me out and pushing me and telling
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: me that that that was this way you're supposed to
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: at NOK a drill sergeant. He comes out of the
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: military as I was supposed to make a young man.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: But it hurt my feelings.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: Man look at me at his value in what I'm doing.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And so I spent a lot of time
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: trying to prove something to him, trying to prove something
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: to myself. But inside I didn't feel good about myself.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: I felt.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: They call it imposter syndrome, but I think that's become
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: too much of a buzz where I just felt a
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: lot of shame.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: And so then I'm in these different places and spaces
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: and I'm not I'm anxious man, Like I would go
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: back to my hotel room. I just cry, you know,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: go back to my hotel room and have like panic attacks,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: you know, like did I do okay?
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: Did I say that's the right way?
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 6: I say that the right way?
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: Was that right? Was that wrong? Shut?
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, just beating myself up, not enjoying any of it,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: you know, so I'll be on TV or I get
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: it the bestseller amy, all these different things.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: Never enjoyed a day of it.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: I would feel it wasn't enough or or it wasn't
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: just I mean, just a lot of self flagellation. Getting
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: that hundred million dollars brought even more problems because then people,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: you know, want stuff from you. But it did let
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: me take a breath, and I noticed all these guys
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: are getting therapy. All these guys are using psychedelic therapy,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: this therapy, that therapy. They the Landmark Forum Hopin Institute,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: polyvagel Ifs, Internal family Sism. Of all these guys and
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: women were spending time just on themselves, trying to make
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: themselves better, trying to make themselves, trying to deal with
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: their mind and daddy issues. And then a sudden they
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: would get to a point where they could just take off.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: And I realized, you know, I was, I was gonna
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: put myself in an early grave because you have insurmountable opportunities,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: but also you have instmountable obstacles.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 6: You can also have instrumentable opportunities. You guys are going
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 6: through that now.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: The door is just opening and opening and opening and opening,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: and that can stress you out, and that can also
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: bring a lot of haters and a lot of criticism.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: And I was going to be an early grave man.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: And so you know, this summer, I just feel really
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: blessed because I was able to get some therapeutic help
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: that was useful. I was able to find my way
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: back to prayer, meditation, I started getting the gym you
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: can't tell, and I would start there. You know, we're worthy,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: We're worthy to be in these rooms. We're worthy to
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: move capital. We're worthy to imagine whole industries. We're worthy
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: to imagine that every black neighborhood could be Wakanda, that
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: we could drive in you know, through you know cultural uh,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: you know, cultural renaissance, but also technology transfer and investment.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: We could make every black neighborhood into Wakanda with the
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: best technology in the world. Every black kid could have
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: an AI tutor better than Harvard MIT for free.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: We could all of these things.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: We're worthy to have those dreams, and we're worthy to
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: fight for them and not just fight for them, just
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: to damn manifest them and say, this is what is
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: going to be in my community, and uh, that's what's available.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: I think as an entrepreneur, so much of politics is
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: about the past and the present and the present.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: Reparations is about the past, you know. Redistribution is about
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: the president. Ah, we have a come inequality. We got
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: to tax you to give money to her so that
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: she can. And it's all about the past and the present.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: That's politics, either operations or redistribution. But the future has
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: not been written, Princess say, the future is worth fighting for.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: The future hasn't been written. Why can't these technologies be
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: used for us? Why can't we own the future? Why
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: can't we own that? Why can't we build that? We
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: have the genius, we have the creativity, we have the passion,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: we have the magic, and now they're given these magical tools,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: and this AI stuff is damn near magic. Well, shoot,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: they take magical people, use these magical tools and build
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: a magical future. That's what I'm committed to. The stuff
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: I've learned has to do with math is not much.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: You guys are better that than I am. The stuff
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: that I've learned to do with management is not much.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: You guys are better than that than I am. But
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: the stuff that I've learned about meaning, the stuff I've
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: learned about me is priceless, man, and I'm just glad
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: to be here talking all about it.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 8: You're worthy, real quick political question. You can answer this
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 8: in one minute.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 7: Electoral college it seems very stupid to me at this
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 7: point in time, and I don't fully understand why it's
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 7: still even in existence. It helps the Republicans obviously a
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 7: lot more than Democrats. Why we still have the loctor
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 7: electoral college? And can there ever be a time where
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 7: we can just get rid of that and just have
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 7: a one vote You vote for this thing if you
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 7: want him to become president. It goes not If I
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 7: live in New York, my vote doesn't even count if
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 7: I vote Republican goes to the Democratic state or Wyoming
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 7: vice versa. It seems like every other country has kind
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 7: of just revolutionized that and just make it very easy.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 7: Can you just give like a thirty second explanation on
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 7: why this is still in existence.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: Well, because it's hard to change the constitution in any
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: way it's going to help us. But there is this
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: thing called national popular vote, where where if enough state
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: legislatures pass pass the law that says they're going to
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: give all their electoral votes, because they can say can
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: give their electoral votes however they want you. So they
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: all say, if enough of them say we're going to
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: give our electoral votes to whoever wins the national popular vote,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: that's an in run around the constitution because then they
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: all say, well, look, you can all vote here if
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: you want you, but whoever wins a national vote, that's
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: who we're going to give our electoral college votes too.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: So there is a way to get it done. It's
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: called national popular vote. You can google that. But you know,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of things in our politics that don't work.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: But what I know is about black folks is we're
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: the most politically sophisticated people in the country.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 4: We know way more about you.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: Talk to the average black person in the barbershop knows
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: way more about politics, and the average white dude in
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: a bar I mean massively more. But we haven't tied
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: that political sophistication to an economic strategy that will get
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: us those trillions of dollars that are going to come
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: down the pipe in the next ten years. And if
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: we can just take that, we can't fix some parts
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: of the system, but we do have a stronghold. The
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: reason I worry when people say don't vote, say, hold
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: on a second, let's use what we've got to get
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: what we want. We've got politics, we've got entertainment. Don't
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: give up. Don't throw that in a garbage can and
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: then you have nothing. Use the politics, use entertainment to
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: get finance and technology. If you can use what you've
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: got and then get what you want, you win the game.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: And honestly, the fact that we survived fur hundred years
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: is bullshit and we're still here in a position who
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: we can make those kind of moves now is a
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: testament to our parents and our grandparents and our great
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: grandparents and their genius. Their result they passed us these batons.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: Don't throw them in the garbage. Can just use them better.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 4: I got I got a yes or no say yes,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 4: no question?
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, maximum age limit on elected officials.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 6: There should be some competency.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 8: The freeze is crazy.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 4: The freeze is crazy.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 7: Well, pleasure, thank you anything you want to let the
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 7: audience know before we go.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: You know, you guys, you know eighty five South just
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: inspires the heck out of me. You guys just inspired
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: the heck of me because you came your own way.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: You came your own way. I came the establishment way
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: at a degree. You know, I went to a fancy
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: law school. I worked for the White House. Well on CNN.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: If I was talking to anybody who's a young person today,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: I would say, do it your way, don't do it
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: my way, because I'm climbing up institutions that are crumbling.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: Cable news is crumbling. You know, the political system is rickety.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: Like you said, going to spend a gazillion dollars going
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: to private school education whatever that may or may not
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: ever pay off. But if you have a dream, if
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: you believe in something, you can start where you guys,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: started six years ago, you would come and to see me.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: Six years later, I'm coming.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 8: To see you.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 9: So if you if you want, if you want to
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 9: understand where the world is going, that right there will
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 9: tell you the last time I saw you.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: You will come to see me.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 6: And I'm sitting here in the lobby trying to come
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 6: and see you.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 4: That's all I got to say. You have it for
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 4: my mom made it.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 8: Mama made it. Thank you guys, Rocking West'll see you
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 8: next week.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 6: Peace.
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