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E Michael Jones on Culture Wars and Universal Ethics | Jerm Warfare · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: My name is Jim. This is germ Warfare, the Battle
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Speaker 1: of Ideas. Doctor E. Michael Jones. Thank you for joining
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Speaker 1: me in the trenches.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Jeremy, thanks for being here.
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Speaker 1: You know, I use the metaphor trenches in information war,
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Speaker 1: battle of ideas. That's all very military like. But we
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Speaker 1: are in an information war, an't we.
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean i'd say it's a culture war.
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Speaker 2: I think that the fact the most recent event here
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Speaker 2: is that the Vatican just issued a statement on an
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Speaker 2: encyclical on artificial intelligence. So the Catholic Church is taking
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Speaker 2: official cognitis of the fact that AI is causing problems
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Speaker 2: and AI is basically it's a contested space. AI is
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Speaker 2: a player in the marketplace of ideas and money, which
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Speaker 2: is known as the Internet, and it's a significant, probably
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Speaker 2: the most significant player out there, and we have to
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Speaker 2: understand what it's doing and how we need to react
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Speaker 2: to it. That's the gist of the in cyclical that
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Speaker 2: the Pope just issued.
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Speaker 1: What is the real world implication.
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Speaker 2: The real world implication is that he recognized that it's
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Speaker 2: a form of control. I've been saying this for years now.
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Speaker 2: I wrote a book called Libido Domainondi sexual liberation as
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Speaker 2: political control. I just finished my autobiography since I'm seventy
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Speaker 2: eight years old now, and I said, it's called Born
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Speaker 2: under a Bad Sign, and it's my life as a
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Speaker 2: guinea pig in an experiment that nobody ever talked to
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Speaker 2: me about. And if you wanted the actual term that
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Speaker 2: I'm referring to, it's called social engineering my life. I
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Speaker 2: was born in nineteen forty eight. While I was in
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Speaker 2: my mother's womb, the Kinsey Report came out. The Kinsey
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Speaker 2: Report was paid for by the Rockefellers and the WASP
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Speaker 2: believe to basically change the default settings of sexual morality
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Speaker 2: in the United States of America. And that's what it did.
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Speaker 2: It aspired to do that, that's what it did because
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Speaker 2: they wanted to control the population of the United States
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Speaker 2: of America in a way that they could not do
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Speaker 2: if people were behaving in a moral fashion. Saint Augustine said.
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Speaker 2: Saint Augustine said, a man has as many masters as
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Speaker 2: he has vices, and that's exactly what the Rockefeller in reverse.
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Speaker 2: So Saint Augustine says, if you want to be free,
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Speaker 2: you better be moral. The Rockefellers and Kinsey said, if
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Speaker 2: you want to control people, you better promote vice. And
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Speaker 2: that's that's what happened during my lifetime.
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Speaker 1: How successful was that project at Agenda?
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Speaker 2: It wrecked my generation? So yes, very successful. So the
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Speaker 2: Rockefellers paid a lot of money to make water run downhill.
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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is you have a natural tendency as
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Speaker 2: a result of original sin. It's called concupis since you haven't.
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Speaker 2: Adam had perfect control over his passions, we do not
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Speaker 2: have perfect control over our passions. We need all kinds
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Speaker 2: of assistance to get through life successfully. And the only
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Speaker 2: way you can be an autonomous human being is to
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Speaker 2: follow the moral law. That means you're you're in rational
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Speaker 2: control of your life. As soon as you're succumb to
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Speaker 2: your passions, someone else is controlling your life, the people
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Speaker 2: who control the stimuli around you. And that's the whole
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Speaker 2: point of what happened to my generation. The sequel A
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Speaker 2: So yeah, nothing stands still. So we're talking about three
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Speaker 2: generations away from that now, at least three generations, and
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Speaker 2: we're talking about the consequences of what happened there. So
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Speaker 2: nothing stands still. What you saw was a country like Germany.
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Speaker 2: I lived in Germany. I speak German, I have German friends.
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Speaker 2: The total collapse of sexual morality, and the result is
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Speaker 2: a nation full of zombies who can hardly talk to
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Speaker 2: each other and pretend that bad things are not happening
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Speaker 2: to them. Classic example would be the blowing up of
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Speaker 2: the North Stream pipeline. They simply accepted it. Oh, you know,
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Speaker 2: shit happens. I guess they just blew up without anyone
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Speaker 2: in that country seriously looking in to an existential attack
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Speaker 2: on their prosperity. They need cheap gas in order a
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Speaker 2: powerful industrial complex. It was destroyed and nobody's even looking
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Speaker 2: into it. That's the classic example of sexual liberation and
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Speaker 2: political control. The entire German population were guinea pigs in
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Speaker 2: a social engineering experiment that was much more ruthless than
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Speaker 2: what we as Americans were subjected to because they were
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Speaker 2: a conquered nation.
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Speaker 1: Would you argue that politics is downstream from culture? Always
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Speaker 1: culture downstream from politics.
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Speaker 2: No, Obviously culture comes first, and what these people, what
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Speaker 2: social engineering does, is basically changed at the fault settings
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Speaker 2: of your culture. So I mean, I've also just written
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Speaker 2: a book about American identity. I can go back all
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Speaker 2: the way to the beginning. It was what I do
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Speaker 2: in this book. How did we are now undergoing a
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Speaker 2: crisis in America and the world is going through it too,
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Speaker 2: because we're at the end of the Third Republic. First
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Speaker 2: Republic lasted from the Constitution being created seventeen eighty one
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Speaker 2: eighteen sixty one, ends with the Civil War. Next or
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Speaker 2: second republics. Certain things do not pass into the Second Republic.
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Speaker 2: Slavery was effectively abolished, all States rights effectively abolished. Second
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Speaker 2: Republic begins in eighteen sixty five and ends also eighty
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Speaker 2: years later. Everything lasts for eighty years, nineteen forty five.
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Speaker 2: That's the beginning of the Third Republic. It's now twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty five, actually twenty twenty six. Now that's coming to
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Speaker 2: an end. The American Empire is coming to an end.
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Speaker 2: All the presuppositions that we had at the beginning of
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Speaker 2: that Third Republic are being called into question, the most significant,
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Speaker 2: of course, being the rule of law. The United Nations
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Speaker 2: was founded the Charter of Rights. Donald Trump has been
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Speaker 2: and effectively torn up that document and thrown it out
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Speaker 2: that no longer has any meaning. And he was asked
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Speaker 2: in an interview by The New York timeshow so do
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Speaker 2: you believe international law. No, well, what do you believe in?
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Speaker 2: Then he said, my mind, my mind. We have a
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Speaker 2: guy who's trying to navigate these dangerous were always got
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Speaker 2: no compass, no north star, no nothing, just as mind
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Speaker 2: totally is going back to the basic fundamental identity American identity,
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Speaker 2: which is Satanism. I make this claim before. I made
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Speaker 2: this claim before. What I'm talking about is the effect
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Speaker 2: that Milton's poem Paradise Lost had on the founding fathers
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Speaker 2: of the United States of America. Every single man who
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Speaker 2: signed the Declaration of Independence was reading Paradise Lost, specifically
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Speaker 2: Satan's speech at the beginning of Paradise Loss as the
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Speaker 2: formula and hidden grammar of this new republic, either directly
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Speaker 2: or indirectly. Most were reading it indirectly because the most
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Speaker 2: famous pamphlet in American history, and certainly the most read
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Speaker 2: document at that time, was Tom Paine's pamphlet called Common Sense.
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Speaker 2: Quote Satan has quoted repeatedly all throughout quotes from Paradise Loss.
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Speaker 2: So this has been the flawed American Republic. And now
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Speaker 2: we're going through a crisis because the empire is coming
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Speaker 2: to an end.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you speak about order your book logos rising is
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Speaker 1: about that. It's the divine reason and order, which is
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Speaker 1: the master key to everything.
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Speaker 2: You're right, absolutely right, absolutely right. Okay. I wrote the
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Speaker 2: first book I wrote as really as a book was
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Speaker 2: Degenerate Moderns, about the rationalization of sexual morality. And in
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Speaker 2: that book, I said, we have two options in life.
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Speaker 2: Either you can subordinate the truth to your desires, or
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Speaker 2: you subordinate your desires to the truth. We want to
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Speaker 2: know what was wrong everyone. We had a country that
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Speaker 2: was determined to subordinate the truth to their desires. Now
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Speaker 2: that's on an individual that I go through all kinds
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Speaker 2: of individual people who claim to be scientists or writers,
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Speaker 2: Margaret Mead, Sigmund Freud, a lot of people, and basically
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Speaker 2: the key to understanding them is to understand what their
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Speaker 2: desires were, because they projected their desires onto the rest
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Speaker 2: of us. If you do that, you're going to have
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Speaker 2: trouble because no one's there's only no desire is more
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Speaker 2: powerful than reality, and you invariably run into trouble, especially
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Speaker 2: if many people do it. And that's precisely what happened
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Speaker 2: to our country and to the world. Basically, they're thinking, well,
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Speaker 2: the mind is its own place and can make a
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Speaker 2: heaven out of hell and a hell out of heaven.
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Speaker 2: And this is Satan talking ready for another revolution, another
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Speaker 2: attempt to overthrow God. And then he says, it's better
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Speaker 2: to reign in hell than to serve in heaven. So
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Speaker 2: what's what's heaven? Heaven is order, God is lo Gos
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Speaker 2: is God rationality. By being reasonable, we participate in the
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Speaker 2: being of God. And you can have desires. So I
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Speaker 2: don't care if that's gouy. I want to reign in hell,
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Speaker 2: even if it's in hell. I want to be in
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Speaker 2: charge because I want to follow my own desires. And
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Speaker 2: you end up in hell, and that's where we are.
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Speaker 2: That's what happened. So logos, the whole tradition of logos,
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Speaker 2: was undermined by people, powerful people who were determined to
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Speaker 2: pose impose their desires on the rest of us.
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Speaker 1: So, in other words, if civilization recognizes or rejects logos,
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Speaker 1: that is a big determinant.
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Speaker 2: That's what happens everything, Because so what the classic example
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Speaker 2: would be what happens to America. Over the course of
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Speaker 2: the Third Republic. We had repeatedly, repeatedly had opportunities to
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Speaker 2: create a better world to have and there were willful
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Speaker 2: power for people who said no, so I'm A classic
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Speaker 2: example was Germany, the reunification that Berlin Wall comes down
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Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty nine. Peace is peace is breaking out
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Speaker 2: all over the world. This is the greatest, the big
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Speaker 2: event of my life. We survived the Cold War. It's
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Speaker 2: not existing anymore. And within two weeks the wicked took charge.
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Speaker 2: And I'm talking about the murder of oswind Herhausen, who
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Speaker 2: was head of the Deutsche Bunk at this time. Two
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Speaker 2: weeks we were waiting Herehausen was going to do to Russia,
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Speaker 2: going to have a Marshall Plan for Russia, low interest
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Speaker 2: loans that would help them rebuild and so on and
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Speaker 2: so forth, for giving Third World debt, which you have
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Speaker 2: to do if you want to have a system that
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Speaker 2: will work. And the oligarchs did not want that to happen.
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Speaker 2: The American elite, and this is Kissinger, Henry Kissinger at
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Speaker 2: this time, basically Harehousing came to America, gave a speech
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Speaker 2: about this plan and Kissinger, you do that, don't do that,
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Speaker 2: you know, and the next thing we know, he's dead.
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Speaker 2: Now they tried to frame the bottom mindhoff Gang. It
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Speaker 2: was the elites that murdered Harehouse, and then instead of
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Speaker 2: getting a renewed culture, instead of extending loans, they got
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Speaker 2: the Love Parade. And the Love Parade was a replay
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Speaker 2: of Woodstock, and Woodstock was the inauguration of the Age
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Speaker 2: of Aquarius that told people to act on their sexual desires.
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Speaker 2: And it happened within one week of my marriage. So
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Speaker 2: that's what wrecked the generation. And you have wicked people
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Speaker 2: repeatedly intervening in history and trying to create outcomes that
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Speaker 2: they desire and wrecking everything in the process.
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Speaker 1: This, obviously, though doesn't apply to Israel, the Chosen People.
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Speaker 2: What are you talking about? What are you kidding me?
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Speaker 2: Is this a joke? Is this a joke? Okay? So, yes,
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Speaker 2: you're right. What we're talking about is it's the end
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Speaker 2: of the Third Republic. The fundamental conflict of the Fourth
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Speaker 2: Republic is going to be okay, it's ethnic ethnicity. I
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Speaker 2: Derek is Protestant Catholic Jew. When the Protestant disappear, which
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Speaker 2: is what is happening right now, it's going to be
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Speaker 2: a battle between the Catholics and the Jews. The Catholics,
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Speaker 2: as Pope Leo just reaffirmed, and is pencyclical on artificial intelligence.
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Speaker 2: Believe that there is a universal moral law that everyone
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Speaker 2: has to follow. It's called practical reason. It's another way
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Speaker 2: of saying low goosh and the realm of human activity.
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Speaker 2: The Jews believe in racial superiority. They believe that they
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Speaker 2: are above every law because they have sacred DNA, which
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Speaker 2: is what they argue with Jesus Christ in chapter eight
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Speaker 2: of John we are the seed of Abraham, so don't
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Speaker 2: tell me what to do, and now we have this conflict.
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Speaker 2: They have proven this beyond any shadow of a doubt.
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Speaker 2: If we look at their behavior in Godza. They never
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Speaker 2: apologize for anything. They are brutally violating every norm of
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Speaker 2: civilization and bragging that they will get away with it
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Speaker 2: because they've taken over control of the presidency of the
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Speaker 2: United States of America and the American Congress as well.
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Speaker 1: But you also argue that race is a fake category.
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Speaker 2: Race is a category of the mind. Let's be specific here.
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Speaker 2: Ethnicity is a category of reality. Okay, a category of
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Speaker 2: the mind is created for political purposes. So race was
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Speaker 2: created in sixteen o nine. To be exact, you can
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Speaker 2: go to the OED. You'll find that there was a
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Speaker 2: play about Virginia in which they referred to people as white,
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Speaker 2: the first time anyone ever said that people were white. Okay,
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Speaker 2: So why did they do that? Because they in the
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Speaker 2: way after math of Bacon's rebellion, the proletariat, the Celtic slaves,
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Speaker 2: and the African slaves united and almost overthrew the government.
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Speaker 2: And so Virginia had to come up with something so
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Speaker 2: that they divided them because that's the principle of Empire
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Speaker 2: DV Day and Emperor divide and rule. And they privileged
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Speaker 2: the white slaves and they disprivileged the black slaves. And
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Speaker 2: that was the beginning of this category of the of
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Speaker 2: the mind that has had profound effect on American identity
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Speaker 2: because I'm saying it's a pseudo identity that was creative
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Speaker 2: for control, not a real identity. Real identities are Protestant, Catholic,
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Speaker 2: jew In America, it's called the triple melting pot. After
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Speaker 2: three generations, your country of origin disappears, you lose the
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Speaker 2: language of your grandfather, and you become a simil related
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Speaker 2: into America according to your religion. So that's the real
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Speaker 2: American identity.
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Speaker 1: So like, for example, whiteness is an abstraction that erases authentic.
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Speaker 1: What did you say, Catholic ethnic identities such as like Polish, Irish, Italian, German.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, that's the story of my life. So
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Speaker 2: I'll be very specific. I was in a Catholic Irish
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Speaker 2: neighborhood in Philadelphia up until nineteen fifty four, so I
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Speaker 2: was six years old. And suddenly we have black migration,
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Speaker 2: orchestrated black migration. We live in a world of orchestrated,
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Speaker 2: weaponized migration in the United States. It was bringing black
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Speaker 2: people up in Philadelphia. It was from North and South Carolina.
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Speaker 2: In Chicago is from Mississippi, bringing them up, flooding the
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Speaker 2: Irish neighborhoods Okay, at this point, the Irish Panic everybody
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Speaker 2: puts their house up for sale at the same time.
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Speaker 2: It's called blockbusting. The value plummets because everybody selling at
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Speaker 2: the same time, and they move out and they move
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Speaker 2: into a suburb. Technically the suburb was in the boundary
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Speaker 2: of Philadelphia, but when you move to the suburb, you
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Speaker 2: become white. So in the every neighborhood in the city,
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Speaker 2: it was a European colony. The major ones or the Poles,
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Speaker 2: the Irish, the Germans, and the Italians. So if you're
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Speaker 2: a poll in Chicago, when you get moved to the suburb,
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Speaker 2: you become white, you lose your identity and as a result,
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Speaker 2: you don't know who you are, and as a result,
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Speaker 2: you lose your political power. That was the point of that.
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Speaker 1: So you mentioned earlier about Jewish superiority, and I think
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Speaker 1: you're right about this in your book Jewish Privilege.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I had the first hand. So it's two
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Speaker 2: thousand and four. I believe the Jews were called neo
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Speaker 2: conservatives at that point. They had gotten the United States
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Speaker 2: involved in the war in Iraq that didn't serve our
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Speaker 2: purposes at all. And so the question is I have
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Speaker 2: to deal with the Jewish question, Well, what is it
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Speaker 2: are they? Are they an ethnic group? Are there religion?
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Speaker 2: Is it a racial thing? And I had to disconnect
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Speaker 2: the Jewish question from the racial question because the Jewish identity.
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Speaker 2: I had to go back to this foot of the cross,
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Speaker 2: when the Jewish, the Jewish people rejected Jesus Christ as
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Speaker 2: their messiah. The jew the Jews hoy euleoi what Saint
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Speaker 2: John calls hoy euloi, that is, the Jewish people the
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Speaker 2: Jews does not mean all Jews. Okay, the Jews are
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Speaker 2: a political entity. Back down they were ruled by the Sanhedrin.
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Speaker 2: Now they're ruled by major Jewish organizations, and they have
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Speaker 2: meetings and they have they work in buildings. You can
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Speaker 2: find their addresses. This is what the Jewish people is.
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Speaker 2: And the Jewish people formally as a people rejected Jesus
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Speaker 2: Christ and called for his death and chose barabbas a
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Speaker 2: revolutionary instead of him. And I'm saying, if you kill
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Speaker 2: the Logos incarnate, which is what Jesus Christ is, you
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Speaker 2: are in rebellion against the order of the universe. And
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Speaker 2: when you're in rebellion against the order of the universe,
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Speaker 2: you're a revolutionary. And that has been their identity from
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Speaker 2: then all the way up to this day.
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Speaker 1: You effectively asking what is a Jew?
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Speaker 2: Right? A Jew is ajectject, rejector of Logos. He's a
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Speaker 2: member of this group called who were the Chosen people?
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Speaker 2: When the Messiah came, they rejected him, and they have
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Speaker 2: chosen a negative what should I say, a satanic negative
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Speaker 2: identity over their true identity. So Jesus got to the
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Speaker 2: heart of the matter. At the end of this heat
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Speaker 2: of discussion, he says, your father is Satan. Well, that's
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Yeah, that's a powerful term because that's
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Speaker 2: what we're talking about America. You're choosing to rebel against
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Speaker 2: the order of the universe. That is the ultimate Satanic act.
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Speaker 2: That's what Satan did. That's why he was cast into hell.
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Speaker 2: That's why Satanism is always problematic. Anti Semitism, to quote
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Speaker 2: Joseph Sobern and anti Semite used to be someone who
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Speaker 2: didn't like Jews. Now is someone jew is someone Jews
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Speaker 2: don't like. Anti Semitism is a term. Is a category,
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Speaker 2: a weaponized category that is supposed to lure you into
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Speaker 2: a trap because it is never defined. So if you
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Speaker 2: want to go back to the origin of the term,
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Speaker 2: it was created in eighteen seventy nine by a German
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Speaker 2: named Wilhelmaher who was a revolutionary from the Revolution of
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Speaker 2: eighteen forty eight. He was he hated the Catholic Church.
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Speaker 2: He didn't want to use religious categories to deal with Jews.
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Speaker 2: He wanted to use biological categories. And that's what he did.
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Speaker 2: Is a racial term because Darwin was very important at
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Speaker 2: that period of time, and so he claimed it could
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Speaker 2: be scientific. So it's basically biological determinism. The Catholic Church
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Speaker 2: does not believe in biology logical determinism. The act that
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Speaker 2: I already described here, this confrontation between the Jews who
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Speaker 2: killed Christ and the Jews who worshiped Christ as God.
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Speaker 2: They are the same DNA. So race has no bearing
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Speaker 2: on this question. But the Jews love to bring it
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Speaker 2: in because everybody's against racism, and if we can condict
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Speaker 2: you of racism, you lose the argument.
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Speaker 1: You were talking about the revolutionary spirit of Jews. And
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Speaker 1: this can be traced through I suppose the Latin and Bolsheviks,
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Speaker 1: Frankfurt School, and funnily, Kevin McDonald and he's book, A
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Speaker 1: Culture of Critique, echoes exactly what you're saying.
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Speaker 2: Sure, sure, yeah, Well Kevin, Kevin and I are. He's
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Speaker 2: a little bit older than me. We're both Irish German
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Speaker 2: Catholics raised in the United States. We were both in
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Speaker 2: college at around the same time. And he someone did
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Speaker 2: a documentary was going to put the two of us
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Speaker 2: on and he basically told about his experiences in college.
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Speaker 2: You know, a young Catholic boy swept away by the
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Speaker 2: sexual revolution never came back. I was almost swept away
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Speaker 2: by the sexual Revolution. I almost I tried to go
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Speaker 2: to Woodstock one week after I got married, and God
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Speaker 2: prevented that by getting me stuck in traffic. So if
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Speaker 2: they are but for the grace of God, I could
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Speaker 2: have ended up like Kevin McDonald, God bless him. He's
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Speaker 2: a good researcher in spite of his biological determinism, because
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Speaker 2: biological determinism doesn't make any sense. He never got over that.
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Speaker 2: He's still trying to talk in those terms. There are
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Speaker 2: totally obsolete terms that have no meaning anymore, never had
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Speaker 2: any meaning. If you don't know who you are and
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Speaker 2: you can't identify the enemy, you will lose every battle.
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Speaker 2: And so the whole story of my people, the Catholic
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Speaker 2: people in America, has been identity theft. So just to
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Speaker 2: give you one example, the Martin Luther King shows up
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Speaker 2: in Chicago in nineteen sixty six and he marches into
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Speaker 2: Marquette Park and he's standing on one side of the street,
23:10
Speaker 2: and the people who live there on the other side
23:12
Speaker 2: of the street. Well, if they're black, Now those other
23:14
Speaker 2: people are white, right right, they look white. Well, if
23:18
Speaker 2: you ask them what they are, they would say they're Lithuanians.
23:22
Speaker 2: So what you do is you steal the identity of
23:25
Speaker 2: the Catholic Lithuanians. You then impose this white identity on them,
23:30
Speaker 2: which means that you're a racist, and then you've won
23:34
Speaker 2: the battle they did. That was sixty six just two
23:38
Speaker 2: years ago. Three years ago in Saint Louis, another guy
23:42
Speaker 2: tried the same thing they wanted. This was the aftermath
23:44
Speaker 2: of Black Lives Matter. This wave of iconoclasm is sweeping
23:48
Speaker 2: the United States and this self appointed revolutionary Umar Lee
23:53
Speaker 2: is going to tear down the statue and he's got
23:55
Speaker 2: to get rid of the people. So those people are
23:57
Speaker 2: defending the statue, they're white supreme. Well you look at them,
24:03
Speaker 2: and they prey, and the rosary is that white supremacy.
24:06
Speaker 2: I thought they burned crosses on your yard or something
24:09
Speaker 2: like that. That was identity. Yet, because if they became white,
24:12
Speaker 2: he was going to win. So the culmination of this battle,
24:15
Speaker 2: I debated him, I accused him of identity set And
24:17
Speaker 2: then the culmination comes when this Catholic nun from Africa
24:22
Speaker 2: leads the group and well she didn't look white, you know,
24:24
Speaker 2: so he can't accuse her of being a white supremacist.
24:27
Speaker 2: And the whole thing collapsed, and that statue was still standing.
24:30
Speaker 2: I'm saying, this is the fundamental battle. You have to
24:34
Speaker 2: have the proper categories. This is what culture wars is
24:37
Speaker 2: in some sense, yet using the proper categories, refusing the
24:42
Speaker 2: imperialism of improper categories imposed on you, making you accept
24:49
Speaker 2: the commands, internalize the commands of your oppressor.
24:53
Speaker 1: You've spoken about Catholicism quite a bit, and you mentioned
24:56
Speaker 1: the Pope a couple of times. Doctor is not to Dome.
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Speaker 1: Still Catholic?
25:03
Speaker 2: No, okay, why do I say that? Okay, Every Catholic
25:11
Speaker 2: university up till nineteen sixty seven was held it was
25:16
Speaker 2: owned by the bishop of that diocese. In otherwords, it
25:18
Speaker 2: was owned by the Catholic Church. In nineteen sixty seven,
25:23
Speaker 2: Father Theodore Hesberg orchestrated basically stole the university from the
25:28
Speaker 2: Catholic Church, not me. I did a biography of Cardinal Krohle,
25:32
Speaker 2: who was the chairman of the committee that was revising
25:35
Speaker 2: the Code of canon Law. He said, under the canon
25:38
Speaker 2: Law that was known as alienation of church property. It's
25:41
Speaker 2: similar to the Reformation. The Reformation was a looting operation
25:46
Speaker 2: and basically what they did was privatize the wealth of England.
25:50
Speaker 2: That had been built up by monks and priests for
25:54
Speaker 2: nine hundred years for the English people, the benefit of
25:58
Speaker 2: the English people, and they privatize it, kicked everyone off
26:02
Speaker 2: the land and graized sheep there because they wanted to
26:04
Speaker 2: sell wools to the Italians. It's the same thing that
26:07
Speaker 2: Notre Dame did and as a result they lost their
26:11
Speaker 2: status as a Catholic university. They stole the place. Now
26:16
Speaker 2: over a period, it's very similar to what happened in
26:19
Speaker 2: England at the time of the Reformation. At a certain
26:22
Speaker 2: point by the time this is Hilaire Billock, but says basically,
26:25
Speaker 2: by the time of the Gunpowder plot, everyone accepted the
26:29
Speaker 2: fact that possession is nine tenths of the law. So
26:31
Speaker 2: the crook stole it and at that point they gave
26:34
Speaker 2: up trying to get it back, and that's been the
26:37
Speaker 2: history of England ever since. Wicked Looting had nothing to
26:42
Speaker 2: do with theology. The Reformation had nothing to do with theology.
26:46
Speaker 2: It was theft, theft of the church property.
26:50
Speaker 1: You're alluding basically to a battle between the Protestants and
26:54
Speaker 1: the Catholics.
26:55
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, well, I mean guess five hundred years. Just
27:02
Speaker 2: focusing on the Church of England. It's been in existence
27:04
Speaker 2: for five hundred years. Any's evaporating. So I'm not worried
27:07
Speaker 2: about battles between Catholics and Protestants anymore, because the Protestants
27:11
Speaker 2: are disappearing. They're either like the Anglican Church in America
27:15
Speaker 2: has been taken over by homosexuals. They have a female
27:19
Speaker 2: bishop of whatever is Canterbury, whatever, whatever bishop it is.
27:25
Speaker 2: They will disappear. No point in fighting somebody who's going
27:29
Speaker 2: to disappear.
27:30
Speaker 1: Did the Protestants do that to themselves? Or were they subverted?
27:35
Speaker 2: They subverted themselves. So what was the what did the
27:38
Speaker 2: Protestants do? What was the turning point? Nineteen twenty nine
27:41
Speaker 2: the Lambeth Conference approves contraception. That was the beginning of
27:46
Speaker 2: the end. Okay, so you're not having children. So by
27:49
Speaker 2: the nineteen thirties, let's say, within ten years, they're all
27:53
Speaker 2: worried about the Catholics. It's basically, what are we going
27:56
Speaker 2: to do about the Catholics? They're all having these children.
27:58
Speaker 2: It got even worse during the nineteen fifty and this
28:00
Speaker 2: is when they tried to get the Catholics to impose
28:03
Speaker 2: birth control, to use birth control. Hensburg was hired by
28:08
Speaker 2: John D. Rockefeller to subvert the sexual morality of the
28:12
Speaker 2: Catholic people. Hesburg betrayed the Catholic people for money. It
28:16
Speaker 2: was that simple. He held secret conferences at Notre Dame.
28:20
Speaker 2: I'm the one who exposed it. That's part of history now.
28:24
Speaker 2: And he became rich and famous. And then he dropped dead,
28:28
Speaker 2: an old old man, proof that the good die young.
28:30
Speaker 2: That he lived to be ninety six years old. Okay,
28:33
Speaker 2: And now where is he? He wrecked sexual morality at
28:38
Speaker 2: Notre Dame and Saint Mary's where I taught. When I
28:41
Speaker 2: arrived at Saint Mary's, it was totally controlled by the feminists.
28:45
Speaker 2: I was against abortion. I got fired one year after
28:48
Speaker 2: I got there for being against abortion of the Catholic college.
28:51
Speaker 2: This had a devastating effect on the Catholics, but it
28:54
Speaker 2: had even more devastating effect on the Protestants themselves. So
28:59
Speaker 2: what so I once, I once gave a lecture on
29:05
Speaker 2: the requirement to get into college, the most important, the
29:08
Speaker 2: most important requirement to get into Harvard? What is it? Its existence?
29:14
Speaker 2: If you don't exist, you can't go to Harvard. Why
29:16
Speaker 2: do I say that my son went to Harvard? Why
29:19
Speaker 2: did my son go to Harvard because the Protestants stopped
29:22
Speaker 2: having children, the Waspy League stopped having children. This was
29:28
Speaker 2: the big fear at the Rockefeller Foundation. One of the
29:31
Speaker 2: I think it was Alan Greg, the head of the Rockefellers.
29:33
Speaker 2: He said he wrote to John D. Rockefeller. He said,
29:36
Speaker 2: he said, wait a minute, what's this talking about small families.
29:38
Speaker 2: We don't want small families. We want big families for
29:42
Speaker 2: us and small families for them. So no, but the
29:45
Speaker 2: first people who are attempted to go to the berthkey
29:47
Speaker 2: to call clinic are our children. We're destroying ourselves. That
29:52
Speaker 2: was Alan Greg.
29:53
Speaker 1: But what about the Catholic Church itself? I mean, hasn't
29:56
Speaker 1: that also been under attach Vatican two for example, Vedigan
29:59
Speaker 1: won even.
30:02
Speaker 2: The church will always be under attack because the devil
30:04
Speaker 2: hates the Catholic Church. And so what it's in the
30:08
Speaker 2: gospel the parable of the Christ to sleep in the boat.
30:15
Speaker 2: The boat is the church. The storm that's been created
30:19
Speaker 2: is because the devil has power to create do evil
30:22
Speaker 2: in this world. And when we're going through this crisis,
30:24
Speaker 2: it always seems that Christ is asleep, and so the
30:28
Speaker 2: apostles go to and say, wake up. Doesn't you care?
30:30
Speaker 2: We're all going to die. So I use this to
30:33
Speaker 2: my uh the schismatics. I Bishop Williamson came to our house.
30:40
Speaker 2: David was a couple of times when Rosinger listened to
30:43
Speaker 2: the excommunications. I went to Wimbledon and I said, time
30:47
Speaker 2: to end theism and that was my message to the sismatics.
30:51
Speaker 2: And they're determined to die outside the church. But I
30:54
Speaker 2: mean what you're saying is, of course, the Catholic Church
30:57
Speaker 2: is always going to be contested. America was a place
31:00
Speaker 2: where if all decent people hated the Catholic Church. But
31:05
Speaker 2: you know of the church. You can't destroy the Catholic
31:07
Speaker 2: Church because it was created by God to last until
31:10
Speaker 2: the end of time. And so we Catholics have prevailed
31:12
Speaker 2: over the Protestants that tried to destroy us, and we
31:15
Speaker 2: will prevail over the Jews, who are we are now fighting.
31:19
Speaker 2: We're in a life and death struggle with the Jews
31:23
Speaker 2: over whether there is a universal moral law and whether
31:26
Speaker 2: you are allowed to do anything. The most disgusting, infamous
31:30
Speaker 2: acts you can imagine, and I'm not going to describe them,
31:33
Speaker 2: are being inflicted on the Palestinian people by these these
31:37
Speaker 2: idea of soldiers. And you can find a Rabbi to
31:40
Speaker 2: justify it. This is disgusting and this is the battle
31:44
Speaker 2: right now, right now. And when Pope Pope, Pope Pope
31:48
Speaker 2: Leo issued this statement, what is the hidden grammar of
31:51
Speaker 2: the statement on Ai? It's Jewish control of the internet.
31:57
Speaker 2: And he can't he can't bring himself to say the
32:00
Speaker 2: word jew. It doesn't appear one time in that whole document.
32:03
Speaker 1: In your opinion, doctor, how does such a small group
32:06
Speaker 1: of people become so influential?
32:10
Speaker 2: Uh answer first answer usury, Okay, this is what happened
32:16
Speaker 2: in the United States, happened in every country, happened in England.
32:19
Speaker 2: They come in and say, read the Merchant of Ventis.
32:24
Speaker 2: It's an absolutely brilliant play. Read t Mone of Athens,
32:28
Speaker 2: where Shakespeare talks about how the money lenders took over
32:31
Speaker 2: England after the Reformation. You come in and you lend
32:36
Speaker 2: money to people who doesn't want money. Oh great, give
32:40
Speaker 2: me money. Look at what happened in Ireland during the
32:42
Speaker 2: era of the so called Celtic Tiger. What was it
32:46
Speaker 2: You came in and lent the Irish money. Oh I
32:49
Speaker 2: didn't know. I have to pay it back. I just
32:51
Speaker 2: wanted to go on a vacation. In MAJORCA, and I
32:53
Speaker 2: borrowed money and now I'm a slave. That's the main vehicle.
32:58
Speaker 2: The other vehicle is Marl subversion, bribery, the money that
33:03
Speaker 2: they accrued. So beginning in nineteen seventy three, you had
33:07
Speaker 2: trillions of dollars transferred out of the pockets of the
33:11
Speaker 2: working class who had high wages, into the hands of
33:15
Speaker 2: the users, the Jewish users on Wall Street, trillions of dollars.
33:20
Speaker 2: And what they had as a cover for that was
33:22
Speaker 2: sexual liberation. So nineteen seventy three is also the year
33:25
Speaker 2: that abortion gains legalized. It's the year of the credit card,
33:28
Speaker 2: where credit cards are mass produced, and as a result,
33:32
Speaker 2: the Jews make so much money that they can buy Congress.
33:36
Speaker 2: Did you watch what happened two weeks ago with Thomas Massey.
33:41
Speaker 2: They spent thirty million dollars for one congress to defeat
33:45
Speaker 2: one congressman because they cannot tolerate any opposition. The shows
33:50
Speaker 2: you also the blindness of the Jews. What you did, Okay,
33:52
Speaker 2: who cares Massy didn't have any power anyway. What you
33:56
Speaker 2: proved beyond the doubt is the Jews control of the
33:59
Speaker 2: American Congress, and that is going to cause opposition. We
34:03
Speaker 2: don't like it anymore. We've had I'm talking speaking for
34:06
Speaker 2: the American people. I am sick to death of you
34:09
Speaker 2: wasting my money on some war and attacking people. I
34:12
Speaker 2: have no grievance against it, in particular the Iranians.
34:15
Speaker 1: Right now, How influential are Catholics in the US government?
34:19
Speaker 2: They are not influential. I mean what what? Who was
34:24
Speaker 2: first of all the only Catholic president who felt that
34:27
Speaker 2: he had a mandate from the people, with John F.
34:30
Speaker 2: Kennedy When I was when you're getting ahead of me here, Okay,
34:36
Speaker 2: when I was when I was fourteen years old, when
34:40
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty two, I went to the July fourth celebration
34:43
Speaker 2: in America, Philadelphia Independence Hall, and there was a Catholic
34:48
Speaker 2: mayor on the platform, a Catholic governor of Pennsylvania, and
34:51
Speaker 2: a Catholic president of the United States. And the wasp Belite,
34:54
Speaker 2: which did exist at that point, thought, this is our
34:58
Speaker 2: worst nightmare. The Catholics are taking over for this country.
35:00
Speaker 2: And as you just indicated, within a year, John F.
35:03
Speaker 2: Kennedy was dead. Now, maybe you think it was a
35:06
Speaker 2: loan to range gunman. Okay, No, you don't think. Okay,
35:12
Speaker 2: it was Meyer Lanski, it was David Bengurion who wanted
35:17
Speaker 2: to get nuclear weapons. Where there were James Jesus Angleton
35:20
Speaker 2: who was in the CIA, who was the laison with
35:23
Speaker 2: the Israelis. These are the people that killed John F.
35:26
Speaker 2: Kennedy to prevent peace. Let's face it, he was back
35:30
Speaker 2: channeling with Nikita Krush Jeff He was going to put
35:34
Speaker 2: an end to the Cold War. He was going to
35:36
Speaker 2: break up the CIA, he was going to issue the government,
35:40
Speaker 2: was going to issue money. It was all of these
35:42
Speaker 2: things were nails in his coffin and they killed him.
35:45
Speaker 1: He also wasn't that he wasn't a Zionist, if I
35:47
Speaker 1: remember Greectly, it.
35:49
Speaker 2: Was an anti Zionist. He didn't want nuclear to get
35:52
Speaker 2: that bad issue, to get nuclear weapons. His brother was
35:55
Speaker 2: his brother was an attorney general, and he was going
35:58
Speaker 2: after the Jews, say the word Jews. He went after
36:02
Speaker 2: Modallits drove him out of Cincinnati and that was the
36:05
Speaker 2: beginning of Las Vegas. He went after Jewish pornographers. Had
36:09
Speaker 2: put the trial in Philadelphi because he knew he could
36:11
Speaker 2: get a conviction. They knew what was going on, and
36:14
Speaker 2: when Kennedy died, then the next guy is Robert Kennedy,
36:17
Speaker 2: and he's going to find out who killed him, and
36:20
Speaker 2: he's going to kick button take names, and they killed
36:24
Speaker 2: him too. So this is the story of my life.
36:28
Speaker 2: I was supposed to be part of the elite. The
36:31
Speaker 2: Catholics were coming to their own at that point, and
36:34
Speaker 2: they killed my leader and we were subjected to ruthless
36:39
Speaker 2: social engineering. Trump is the most pro pro Israel president
36:44
Speaker 2: in history. At JFK was not pro Israel before nineteen
36:47
Speaker 2: forty eight. There was no Israel to be pro for.
36:50
Speaker 2: It was a completely insignificant issue in the United States
36:54
Speaker 2: or Amurga, But I mean it was there. I mean
36:57
Speaker 2: I talked about the baut Hollywood was a Jewish post
37:01
Speaker 2: where they were determined to subvert the morals of the
37:03
Speaker 2: United people of the United States. And it was the
37:06
Speaker 2: Catholics who stood up to the Jews in Hollywood with
37:09
Speaker 2: the Legion of Decency imposing the production code and for
37:13
Speaker 2: thirty one years from nineteen thirty three to six thirty
37:16
Speaker 2: two years to sixty five, Hollywood through Joe Green, controlled
37:21
Speaker 2: the type of film that got made.
37:23
Speaker 1: Didn't That also occur in the Wimar Republic.
37:28
Speaker 2: The Weimar Republic was deeply involved with Jewish subversion. First
37:34
Speaker 2: of all, you had someone like sexual subversion, with someone
37:36
Speaker 2: like Magnos Heersfield, the Jew. If Margous Heersfield didn't exact,
37:41
Speaker 2: Hitler would have to invent him. Hitler got more mileage
37:44
Speaker 2: out of Magnus Heersfeld than anybody else in the Jew
37:48
Speaker 2: and a homosexual, the father of transgenderism. It was perfect.
37:52
Speaker 2: Hitler didn't have to do anything. Also, you had the
37:55
Speaker 2: political subversion, which is basically the Soviet Republic of Bavai.
38:00
Speaker 2: Do you remember the Soviet Republic of Bavaria. No, nobody
38:03
Speaker 2: remembers that, but the Jews took over Bavaria. The man
38:07
Speaker 2: who went there was Eugenio Pachelli, the nuncio who later
38:12
Speaker 2: became Pope Pious the twelfth, and he wrote a report
38:15
Speaker 2: back to Rome saying, look, these are not Germans. I
38:18
Speaker 2: went to the headquarters, I went to the Philisbach Palace.
38:21
Speaker 2: It's all Russian Jews, like Oig and Levine. He's not
38:24
Speaker 2: a German, he's a Russian Jew. And they've taken over
38:26
Speaker 2: our country, and the Germans are upset. There's going to
38:31
Speaker 2: be a reaction. That's exactly what happened. If you if
38:34
Speaker 2: you're if you're talking about the Holocaust. It was created
38:37
Speaker 2: during at the end of World War two, and Hollywood
38:40
Speaker 2: had a crucial role in creating it. Basically, when they
38:43
Speaker 2: when the when Eisenhower came into Ordruff, the first camp,
38:48
Speaker 2: there were dead bodies all over the ground. There are
38:50
Speaker 2: no gas chambers. No one ever said there were gas
38:52
Speaker 2: chambers there. How'd they die? They died of typhus that
38:55
Speaker 2: the naked bodies were lying there. Eisenhower saw a moment
38:57
Speaker 2: of opportunity, brought the Psychological Warfare operation in General McClure, C. D. Jackson.
39:04
Speaker 2: And the next place that down the road was Bulkenvald
39:09
Speaker 2: and they brought the people of weymar out, marched them out,
39:12
Speaker 2: and they had Billy Wilder. Remember Billy Wilder's name was
39:15
Speaker 2: Schmool Wilder. But in Hollywood he would did some like
39:19
Speaker 2: it hot, you know movies with marionly Monroe, that type
39:21
Speaker 2: of thing. He filmed it. So that was the beginning
39:24
Speaker 2: of the Holocaust narrative. The propaganda films that they tried
39:27
Speaker 2: to they imposed on the German people and the rest
39:30
Speaker 2: of us. The lady who did on the was on
39:33
Speaker 2: the Titanic movie with what was her name now I
39:36
Speaker 2: forget her name now. Anyway, she did The Reader, Kate Winsley,
39:42
Speaker 2: Hey Winsley, and she got an award for doing The Reader,
39:44
Speaker 2: which is a Holocaust film. And he said, thank you.
39:46
Speaker 2: I got the award because I finally did my fucking
39:49
Speaker 2: Holocaust movie. That's that's why I hate to antagonize the
39:53
Speaker 2: people there, but that's what she said. So that was
39:55
Speaker 2: your ticket. You punch your ticket, and that was your
39:57
Speaker 2: way to success in Hollywood.
39:59
Speaker 1: And then was You've got people like Spielberg et cetera,
40:01
Speaker 1: who then a great storytellers.
40:05
Speaker 2: Yes, Schindler's List is probably the ultimate Holocaust movie, but
40:09
Speaker 2: unfortunately Spielberg is a Holocaust denier. If you watch Schindler's List,
40:16
Speaker 2: first of all, it's an R rate of movie because
40:18
Speaker 2: you got get all those ladies, take your clothes off,
40:20
Speaker 2: put them in the gas chamber. What happened? Then tell
40:23
Speaker 2: me what happened? Then theer what came out of the
40:27
Speaker 2: shower head? Yeah? What came out of the showerhead?
40:30
Speaker 1: Zachlunb Water in the movie. Yes, of course you're right.
40:38
Speaker 2: Well, wait a minute, that's Holocaust denial. But Schindler okay,
40:42
Speaker 2: so no, it's Spielberg so we're not going to do it.
40:46
Speaker 2: That That narrative was destroyed in Canada in the mid
40:49
Speaker 2: eighties when A Zundel went on trial and he brought
40:53
Speaker 2: in the dean of Holocaust studies and the guy refused
40:57
Speaker 2: to swear under earth as they were gas chambers at Auschwitz.
41:01
Speaker 2: So that was the end of it. He couldn't. He
41:03
Speaker 2: had a choice either I do a realistic film, in
41:05
Speaker 2: which case after his water, or I go with the
41:07
Speaker 2: propaganda film, in which case I wreck my own movie
41:10
Speaker 2: by making it an overtly propaganda.
41:13
Speaker 1: Norman Finelstein was on my podcast and he says that
41:17
Speaker 1: the whole thing is an industry.
41:20
Speaker 2: That's right. He wrote a book with I tell you
41:21
Speaker 2: the Holocaust industry. Yes, that's right. His parents were in
41:25
Speaker 2: some concentration camp. They never got a nickel, never got
41:30
Speaker 2: a dime from the Holocaust industry. All that money went
41:33
Speaker 2: to lawyers and big things like the the major Jewish organizations,
41:39
Speaker 2: who then brokers all that reparations money. The people in
41:42
Speaker 2: the camps were lucky if they got pennies on the dollar.
41:46
Speaker 1: You've written around what twenty books more or less.
41:50
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, remember that E. Michael Jones wrote books. He
41:55
Speaker 2: didn't spend his life scrolling. He actually did something. There's
42:00
Speaker 2: a passage in the Gospel, you have not chosen me,
42:04
Speaker 2: I have chosen you to go and bear fruit that
42:07
Speaker 2: will last. So I'm hoping that I'm doing fruit, producing
42:11
Speaker 2: fruit that will last. Because we have been deprived of
42:15
Speaker 2: our identity, We've been deprived of our philosophical heritage, We've
42:20
Speaker 2: been deprived of all of these things. And I got
42:23
Speaker 2: expelled from a Catholic college for teaching for being against abortions.
42:27
Speaker 2: So what in effect, I've written Between Logos Rising and
42:31
Speaker 2: The Dangers of Beauty, which is on aesthetics, mogus rioting
42:34
Speaker 2: is metaphysics, Dangers of beauty, aesthetics, barren metal economics, Libido
42:41
Speaker 2: dominati psychology. I've written a curriculum for the University of
42:46
Speaker 2: the Future where we'll finally get over all the social engineering,
42:49
Speaker 2: all the feminist composition teachers, all the people who are
42:54
Speaker 2: hired because of the color of their skin, and get
42:56
Speaker 2: back to the reality of philosophical discourse and scholarship in
43:03
Speaker 2: the West. This is my I'm trying to talk to
43:05
Speaker 2: the Iranians. I'm trying to be going there for years,
43:08
Speaker 2: haven't been there lately because of the war. But I'm
43:11
Speaker 2: trying to say, there is a philosophical tradition that will
43:15
Speaker 2: allow us to live in peace, and it's based on logos,
43:20
Speaker 2: and that's what I'm trying to promote. I'm trying to
43:22
Speaker 2: promote these discussions that will bring discussion peace to the
43:26
Speaker 2: entire world.
43:27
Speaker 1: No, but I mean in the modern era of people
43:29
Speaker 1: do unlocked discussions. We have to put everybody into a
43:34
Speaker 1: little box with a label.
43:36
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. I agree, and so I am insisting on
43:41
Speaker 2: using the proper categories. Every English speaker is a nominalist. Okay,
43:46
Speaker 2: They're all the heirs of William of Akham, who thought
43:49
Speaker 2: all categories were categories of the mind. That has wrecked
43:53
Speaker 2: discourse in the English speaking world. It wrecked it. The
43:57
Speaker 2: only thing that the English do well is poetry. And
44:01
Speaker 2: that's why if you want to understand something is important
44:03
Speaker 2: to the Reformation, reach Shakespeare, reach Shakespeare. They have to
44:08
Speaker 2: put it in poetic language, because that will foil the
44:11
Speaker 2: censors if they told them. If Shakespeare said that, basically
44:18
Speaker 2: all the looters ended up being in debt to the Jews,
44:21
Speaker 2: which is the story of England from the sixteenth to
44:23
Speaker 2: the nineteenth century, they would have hanged them. Okay, so
44:28
Speaker 2: well it's Athens. I'm just talking about Athens. I'm not
44:31
Speaker 2: really talking about that. That is the reality of life
44:37
Speaker 2: and why poetry became so important to the English because
44:40
Speaker 2: they couldn't they couldn't be honest about what was going on.
44:43
Speaker 1: Do you think Israel will make it to one hundred years?
44:47
Speaker 2: No, it won't make it to eighty years.
44:51
Speaker 1: That's a that's around the corner.
44:53
Speaker 2: I know. I'm the same age as Israel. So you've
44:55
Speaker 2: got two years left, fellows, you got two years left. Okay,
45:00
Speaker 2: says the same thing. I said this years ago, because
45:04
Speaker 2: of Ahood Barack, because of this eighty year cycle of
45:07
Speaker 2: human history, and now it's a lot closer than it
45:11
Speaker 2: was back then. You know, there weren't missiles and drones
45:14
Speaker 2: reigning on Tel Aviv when I was saying that, and
45:16
Speaker 2: now that's happening. I don't think Israel can serrive. I
45:20
Speaker 2: think that they are the rats are leaving the sinking ship.
45:23
Speaker 2: I know a priest in Cyprus who says that the
45:26
Speaker 2: Greeks are upset the Jews are going there on moss
45:30
Speaker 2: Milai is allowing Jews to go to Argentina to Patagonia.
45:36
Speaker 2: They are not going to last. They cannot last under
45:39
Speaker 2: these conditions. You cannot alienate the entire world and expect
45:43
Speaker 2: to say, oh yeah, you have a right to exist.
45:45
Speaker 2: You know, it's not going to happen.
45:47
Speaker 1: If the US pooled its support for Israel, it's game over.
45:53
Speaker 2: Like that. And this is the tragedy of Donald Trump.
45:57
Speaker 2: All the people who died because Donald Trump could not
46:00
Speaker 2: stand up to Israel. All he had to do was
46:02
Speaker 2: hold up the weapons. Every single Palestinian who died in
46:06
Speaker 2: Godz that died with an American weapon that he allowed
46:09
Speaker 2: into that country. You could have said, no, sorry, num
46:12
Speaker 2: more weapons. You're on your own. Fellas. You got this
46:15
Speaker 2: invincible id F, this invincible harmy, go for it. Well,
46:19
Speaker 2: that's all fiction. And this is the tragedy of Donald Trump.
46:23
Speaker 2: He campaigned to say he was going to end the
46:25
Speaker 2: war in the Ukraine, didn't do that, didn't do anything
46:28
Speaker 2: to stop the genocide in Godz. He's a total pawn
46:31
Speaker 2: of the Israel.
46:32
Speaker 1: Lobby and his success that will probably also.
46:36
Speaker 2: Be generally history goes by way of reaction. So don't
46:48
Speaker 2: I don't see I don't I don't The only person
46:52
Speaker 2: who knows the future is God, and that's why we
46:56
Speaker 2: need faith. Okay, this can't go on forever. This cannot
47:02
Speaker 2: go on forever. So I don't know what's I don't
47:05
Speaker 2: know what's in the cars. I've already told you about
47:07
Speaker 2: Thomas Massey. They have total control over our over our Congress. Uh.
47:13
Speaker 2: But the American Empire is coming to an end, and
47:17
Speaker 2: so what what will come out of this is something
47:21
Speaker 2: that we can't see right now. We can't see. I
47:24
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to last. I don't think it's
47:26
Speaker 2: going to last. I think that there will be a shock.
47:29
Speaker 2: The American people will have to wake up to the
47:31
Speaker 2: reality of the situation, and out of that consciousness, a
47:34
Speaker 2: new republic will emerge with new parameters.
47:39
Speaker 1: Let's say Israel isn't around. The Jews will be scattered
47:42
Speaker 1: around the world. Do you think Christians and Muslims, for example,
47:48
Speaker 1: can live harmoniously.
47:50
Speaker 2: That's my hope. I think it's possible. I think that
47:54
Speaker 2: I've been talking that way. I've been talking to Muslims.
47:58
Speaker 2: You know, there are problems there. Basically, what's the situation now?
48:03
Speaker 2: You have Iran as now the hegemon over the Middle East? Okay,
48:08
Speaker 2: they closed the Straits of horrorm moves. Well, if you
48:10
Speaker 2: talk to a Muslim, for the most part, they're ninety
48:12
Speaker 2: percent sunny. The Iranians are Shia. They don't like the Shia, Okay,
48:18
Speaker 2: I kind of. I don't tell you who you're going
48:20
Speaker 2: to like. But the fact of the matter is that
48:22
Speaker 2: they are the hegemon. And this is going to has
48:25
Speaker 2: been decided by what Bismarck called blue on Eisen. It
48:29
Speaker 2: wasn't discussions. It was the fact that the Americans attacked
48:33
Speaker 2: and the and the Iranians closed the Straits of Hormus.
48:36
Speaker 2: And there is now a political fata complete on the
48:39
Speaker 2: table now that the world is going to have to
48:41
Speaker 2: get to come to grips with. Come to understand.
48:45
Speaker 1: I don't like the idea of the American Impire collapsing.
48:48
Speaker 1: Why because it affects me. Whatever happens in the US
48:53
Speaker 1: affects everybody else. If the US absolutely right, if the
48:55
Speaker 1: US sneezes, I get a cold later on, right, right?
49:00
Speaker 1: Do you think it's inevitable? Though?
49:03
Speaker 2: Yes, everything I'm talking. If you read Logos Rising, there's
49:07
Speaker 2: a whole chapter on Vico, which is a man the
49:10
Speaker 2: Neapolitan philosopher who took time seriously, and he said, basically,
49:14
Speaker 2: all empires are natural things, and natural things come into
49:18
Speaker 2: existence in time, they grow to maturity, and then they
49:21
Speaker 2: go into decline and then they disappear. And his paradigm
49:25
Speaker 2: was the Roman Empire, which is like Saint Jerome thought
49:31
Speaker 2: it was the end of the world when the Roman
49:33
Speaker 2: Empire started to crumble because of my Barbarian German ancestors
49:37
Speaker 2: coming down to you know, but it wasn't it began.
49:42
Speaker 2: It took a long time. There was a lot of violence,
49:44
Speaker 2: a lot of suffering, but eventually it was succeeded by
49:46
Speaker 2: the Holy Roman Empire, which was Europe. And that was
49:49
Speaker 2: a higher civilization than Rome because it had Christianity behind it.
49:53
Speaker 2: And so you know, that's the paradigm that I'm taking here.
49:57
Speaker 2: But look at Europe now, yes, so am I What
50:04
Speaker 2: am I saying here? First of all, what was the
50:06
Speaker 2: most dramatic blow to European unity? It was the Reformation.
50:13
Speaker 2: So obviously wicked men can affect human history. God knows
50:17
Speaker 2: that God allows evil. He permits it. He doesn't will it.
50:23
Speaker 2: He permits it because he knows that there is a
50:26
Speaker 2: greater good that's going to come out of it. That's
50:29
Speaker 2: that's the story, and that's what Hagel called the cunning
50:32
Speaker 2: of reason. He was a profoundly Christian guy who was
50:35
Speaker 2: trying to understand the role of divine providence and human history.
50:38
Speaker 2: And you want to know it. It's the story of
50:40
Speaker 2: Joseph at the end of Genesis, who is sold into
50:44
Speaker 2: slavery wicked act by his brothers, but then he ends
50:47
Speaker 2: up ahead of the granary, and when his brothers come
50:49
Speaker 2: for food because they're starving, God knew that that's how
50:52
Speaker 2: He's going to preserve the Hebrew people. And Joseph said,
50:55
Speaker 2: the evil you intended to do to me has been
50:57
Speaker 2: turned by God's power into good. That's the story of
51:01
Speaker 2: human history.
51:02
Speaker 1: A few years ago, I was in Amsterdam with my
51:05
Speaker 1: wife and we were traveling around with the Dutch friend
51:09
Speaker 1: and we saw a number of churches all empty, and
51:15
Speaker 1: eventually I asked her why are all the churches empty?
51:21
Speaker 1: And her response was profound She said, look, I'm a Christian,
51:25
Speaker 1: but the truth is we killed God.
51:28
Speaker 2: Right I understand. So if you're talking about the span
51:34
Speaker 2: of human history, the Jews are the people who killed
51:36
Speaker 2: Christ and our enemies of the entire human race. Now
51:39
Speaker 2: Why is Amsterdam so interesting because a lot of Jews
51:42
Speaker 2: went there and the Dutch I lived near, I lived
51:47
Speaker 2: right across the Dutch border in Germany, and you know
51:51
Speaker 2: the Dutch, they're kind of they're like Jews. I mean
51:55
Speaker 2: a lot of Jews went there because after they were
51:58
Speaker 2: expelled from Spain, half of them went to Amsterdam and
52:00
Speaker 2: the other half went to Turkey, just Myrna. And when
52:03
Speaker 2: they got there, they took over the holland became it
52:06
Speaker 2: became like the Jewish capital banking became very important there,
52:10
Speaker 2: the first bank of the Distal bank that was in Amsterdam.
52:14
Speaker 2: The Sephardi Jews or Jews. Sephardi Jews had a big
52:18
Speaker 2: influence on on Dutch culture and Dutch identity. So when
52:23
Speaker 2: it later comes around, so they're they're Protestant. This was
52:27
Speaker 2: the colony, the country that was that Philip the second
52:33
Speaker 2: could not reconquer and bring it back into the Spanish Netherlist.
52:36
Speaker 2: So you have a Protestant identity, Protestants or crypto Jews.
52:40
Speaker 2: And so in a sense, that's what we're talking about
52:43
Speaker 2: about how they killed Christ. It took over a period
52:46
Speaker 2: of time until point this this what should I say
52:49
Speaker 2: this avaricious nature. I don't offend any Dutch people out there,
52:53
Speaker 2: but the Dutchman loves to cheat. You go to Amsterdam.
52:58
Speaker 2: Have you been to After you've been to Amsterdam, what
53:00
Speaker 2: do you think the red light district is about? What
53:02
Speaker 2: do you think the drug deals? The hashtag? They want
53:06
Speaker 2: to extract every single penny from your pocket before you
53:09
Speaker 2: leave Amsterdam. That's the Jewish culture of Amsterdam. I took
53:15
Speaker 2: I took my son to I was going to do
53:18
Speaker 2: a conference in Germany. I took my son. We go
53:21
Speaker 2: to the train station. I'm going to do on the train.
53:24
Speaker 2: I hand the lady two tickets costs forty euros. I
53:28
Speaker 2: hand her one hundred euro bill. I can't take that.
53:32
Speaker 2: She says, you have to change it. You have to
53:34
Speaker 2: not change Wait a minute, you take euros, yeah, but
53:36
Speaker 2: you have to break it down to twenty euro bills.
53:39
Speaker 2: Well wait a minute, what's going on here? This is
53:42
Speaker 2: the Dutch national rail system. And you got to go
53:46
Speaker 2: to the userer next door and he took five euros
53:49
Speaker 2: from me because to break the one hundred bill. It's
53:52
Speaker 2: institutionalized in Holland. They like to cheat you. They like
53:58
Speaker 2: to cheat you. There I'm waiting to hear from the
54:00
Speaker 2: Dutch Chamber of Commerce. Okay, but this is my personal
54:04
Speaker 2: personal experience.
54:05
Speaker 1: I feel like this question I'm going to ask you
54:08
Speaker 1: as a horseshoe. All the way back to the beginning
54:10
Speaker 1: of our conversation. But my wife and I were driving
54:12
Speaker 1: in the car and we were talking about sort of
54:15
Speaker 1: the the the spiral downwards of society into degeneracy and immorality.
54:21
Speaker 1: And she asked me if I thought that it was
54:25
Speaker 1: correlated to arise in atheism, what do you think?
54:29
Speaker 2: Sure it was, of course it was. So the Dutch
54:32
Speaker 2: lady who talked to you, she was probably talking about
54:34
Speaker 2: Nietzsche because Nietzsche talks about killing God. Okay, so it's
54:39
Speaker 2: the satanic element of America goes back to John Milton,
54:43
Speaker 2: who was a rageous side He killed the king and
54:45
Speaker 2: beg king was a representative of God. And so, of course,
54:48
Speaker 2: of course that was. But atheism didn't come into its
54:51
Speaker 2: own until you had a certain technological development and you
54:57
Speaker 2: felt we were abstracted from nature and you're the let's
55:01
Speaker 2: face it, Nietzsche's father was a Lutheran pastor. The Lusers
55:08
Speaker 2: belief in solar scriptura, which means you just interpret according
55:12
Speaker 2: to the Bible alone and solar script tour. He was
55:18
Speaker 2: a smart guy and he realized that's just will. That's
55:22
Speaker 2: why he said, it's all just Wilson power. If you
55:24
Speaker 2: believe in solar scriptur, you're opposing your will on the
55:28
Speaker 2: scriptures and you're using it to justify it. So that
55:31
Speaker 2: was the kind of transformation that's took place all the
55:34
Speaker 2: way up to the Four Atheists. Remember that dance craze,
55:37
Speaker 2: it was like disco. It was philosophical disco. At the
55:42
Speaker 2: beginning of around two thousand and twenty ten. Christopher Hickins, Dawkins,
55:47
Speaker 2: Daniel Dennett, they were some of the dumbest people I
55:50
Speaker 2: have ever run into in my life, some of the
55:53
Speaker 2: dumbest design Dennitt was the only philosopher in the group,
55:57
Speaker 2: and he said, the world, the universe brought itself into
56:02
Speaker 2: existence out of nothing or something very small. That is
56:06
Speaker 2: the dumbest statement in the history of philosophy. What are
56:09
Speaker 2: you talking about. It's either nothing to something which only
56:13
Speaker 2: God can do, or the universe created itself. I have
56:16
Speaker 2: a question, professor, how can the universe in order to
56:23
Speaker 2: bring itself into exist? To existence, the universe had to
56:27
Speaker 2: exist before it existed. How is that possible? How is
56:31
Speaker 2: that possible? Professor? I'm just a dumb student, but this
56:34
Speaker 2: is ridiculous. This is all real to power, it's all.
56:39
Speaker 2: If you want to know, the real hidden grammar of
56:40
Speaker 2: atheism is father deprivation, which is the same basis for homosexuality.
56:49
Speaker 2: God is an exalted father. That's what Sigmund Freud said.
56:53
Speaker 2: It's true, not in the sense he intended it, but
56:55
Speaker 2: it's obviously true. You get your idea of God from
56:57
Speaker 2: your father. If you have father problem, you're going to
57:00
Speaker 2: be more and more atheistic. The culture will become atheistic
57:05
Speaker 2: the more feminist it becomes, because the father is robbed
57:08
Speaker 2: of his power that he has right by nature and
57:11
Speaker 2: by God. And so you're going to have a whole
57:13
Speaker 2: population now that's more attuned to this to basically a
57:16
Speaker 2: psychological problem. And then if you go to that and say, well,
57:22
Speaker 2: there's no God, I can do whatever the hell I want,
57:24
Speaker 2: and then you get involved in activity that is immoral,
57:27
Speaker 2: then you're going to feel guilt, and then you're going
57:28
Speaker 2: to think you're going to be angry at God and
57:30
Speaker 2: so on and so forth. That was Christopher Hitchins.
57:33
Speaker 1: Is atheism morally bankrupt.
57:37
Speaker 2: Atheism is a psychological problem. It has nothing to do
57:41
Speaker 2: with ontology, It has nothing to do with the universe.
57:45
Speaker 2: It has to do with your psychological problems and what
57:48
Speaker 2: the main lead The main thing that leads you to
57:52
Speaker 2: rebel against God is the desire to satisfy your own
57:56
Speaker 2: illicit passions. That's why they promote sexual liberation. To get
57:59
Speaker 2: back to the beginning of our discussion here, because if
58:03
Speaker 2: you get involved in sexual illicit sexual activity, you're going
58:07
Speaker 2: to hate God and you're going to rebel against the
58:12
Speaker 2: order of the universe, and that will lead you to
58:14
Speaker 2: deny the existence of God, which only an idiot would do.
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