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- 0:01Speaker 1: Taking a Walk Nashville.
- 0:02Speaker 2: Hey listeners, it's Sarah Harrelson, your host of Taking a
- 0:06Speaker 2: Walk Nashville. Today with me is drummer Steve Gitzman of Exile.
- 0:13Speaker 2: He has been the heartbeat of Exile for decades, holding
- 0:17Speaker 2: down the groove through massive genre shifts and generations of touring.
- 0:23Speaker 2: A little bit about Exile, they formed in 1963 looking
- 0:27Speaker 2: to play small clubs in Richmond, Kentucky. and then they
- 0:31Speaker 2: managed to top both the pop and country charts with
- 0:34Speaker 2: 18 hits collectively, including 11 number ones during their 60-year-long career.
- 0:42Speaker 2: You may know their iconic smash hit, Kiss You All Over.
- 0:45Speaker 2: It spent four weeks at the top of Billboard's pop
- 0:48Speaker 2: chart in 1978. It was used in the 1996 Adam
- 0:54Speaker 2: Sandler movie, Happy Gilmore. You may remember that scene. Exile
- 1:00Speaker 2: has written hits for other major label artists including Alabama,
- 1:04Speaker 2: Diamond Rio, and Restless Heart. The five members reformed in
- 1:09Speaker 2: 2008 and they continue to tour today. They just celebrated
- 1:14Speaker 2: their 60th anniversary as a band and they are releasing
- 1:19Speaker 2: a new album this October. It's called Look Out Heart
- 1:24Speaker 2: and they just released two singles off the new album,
- 1:26Speaker 2: Rain Keeps Falling and Look Out Heart. Join me today
- 1:31Speaker 2: as I speak with Steve Gitzman, the drummer of Exile.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Welcome to Takin' a Walk Nashville with your host, singer-songwriter
- 1:44Speaker 1: Sarah Harrelson.
- 1:45Speaker 2: Hi listeners, it's Sarah Harrelson, your host of the Takin'
- 1:49Speaker 2: a Walk Nashville podcast. Today with me is drummer Steve
- 1:53Speaker 2: Gitzman from the band Exile. Steve, how are you doing today?
- 1:58Speaker 1: Very well, Sarah, how are you?
- 2:00Speaker 2: I'm good. Thank you for joining me while you guys
- 2:03Speaker 2: are on a break from your tour. In 2023, Exile
- 2:09Speaker 2: just celebrated 60 years together as a band and also
- 2:14Speaker 2: the 45th anniversary of your hit Kiss You All Over.
- 2:17Speaker 2: What does it mean to still be recording and touring
- 2:21Speaker 2: together as a band after all these years?
- 2:24Speaker 1: Well, we all feel a lot of gratitude that we
- 2:26Speaker 1: can still get out there and do it. We have
- 2:33Speaker 1: product out in the market, but we don't worry so
- 2:36Speaker 1: much anymore about hit records or album sales. It's now
- 2:42Speaker 1: more live performance centered, and it's like being a garage
- 2:47Speaker 1: band again. And it makes it a lot of fun.
- 2:50Speaker 1: And yes, we've been together for a very long time.
- 2:54Speaker 1: We're now in our 63rd year. And so we're like family, too.
- 2:59Speaker 2: That's amazing, especially after all these years. You know, it's
- 3:03Speaker 2: hard to keep a band together, especially with the original members.
- 3:07Speaker 2: Is there a secret sauce you guys have to staying
- 3:11Speaker 2: together after all these years?
- 3:12Speaker 1: Well, I think there are a lot of elements. First
- 3:17Speaker 1: of all, we were friends in Kentucky, in Lexington, Kentucky,
- 3:21Speaker 1: or in that region, and we grew up. uh, as
- 3:24Speaker 1: teenagers grew up together playing in different bands and playing
- 3:28Speaker 1: in the local clubs and recording studios. And so that
- 3:33Speaker 1: was all before we came together as exile. So there's
- 3:38Speaker 1: a lot of, um, there's a lot of history, uh, and,
- 3:43Speaker 1: and a reality base, if you will, amongst the five
- 3:47Speaker 1: of us, um, And so that's part of it. Our
- 3:51Speaker 1: Kentucky heritage is another part of it. And we just
- 3:57Speaker 1: like each other. At this point in our lives, most
- 4:02Speaker 1: of the egos are gone. And what's left are remnants.
- 4:07Speaker 1: So we've learned how to work together and coexist and
- 4:14Speaker 1: enjoy one another. And I've noticed recently we laugh a lot.
- 4:19Speaker 1: especially on the bus when we're traveling.
- 4:23Speaker 2: That's so important to get along and just have fun together.
- 4:27Speaker 2: Were you friends before you joined the band or walk
- 4:33Speaker 2: us through how you were introduced to joining the band
- 4:37Speaker 2: and what were you looking for as a drummer back then?
- 4:40Speaker 1: Well, yes, I knew everyone quite well before I joined.
- 4:46Speaker 1: I joined when I was 27. I guess the best
- 4:49Speaker 1: place to start would be I was working as a
- 4:52Speaker 1: session drummer in Lexington. And some of the guys in
- 4:58Speaker 1: the group at that time would come in and perform
- 5:03Speaker 1: on sessions. And so I was playing with them. And
- 5:09Speaker 1: during the session, we were doing stuff like country albums
- 5:12Speaker 1: for people and lots of local jingles, gospel albums. And
- 5:18Speaker 1: so we became a pretty tight rhythm section in the studio.
- 5:23Speaker 1: They had a different drummer at the time. And then
- 5:28Speaker 1: things changed. They were a pop band. They were a
- 5:31Speaker 1: rock band evolving to pop. And I was better suited
- 5:37Speaker 1: as a pop drummer than the drummer that they had.
- 5:40Speaker 1: So it just evolved. He was an incredible drummer. And
- 5:44Speaker 1: he had huge shoes to fill. But it was a
- 5:47Speaker 1: different direction. And so they asked me to come on board,
- 5:53Speaker 1: which I did, and I'm very glad I did.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys have had such a tremendous career, as
- 5:59Speaker 2: I mentioned. You're currently on tour, many stops along the way,
- 6:03Speaker 2: and it looks like you guys have three shows in
- 6:07Speaker 2: Tennessee coming up, correct?
- 6:11Speaker 1: Yes. We also have some Alabama shows. They've been using
- 6:15Speaker 1: us on a number of their dates. which is just
- 6:19Speaker 1: really nice because we're good friends with them and have
- 6:21Speaker 1: been for years, decades, in fact. And it's amazing. They
- 6:26Speaker 1: still pack arenas. They can sell out 15,000, 20,000 seats consistently.
- 6:33Speaker 1: So it puts us back on the big stages. And
- 6:38Speaker 1: the production is incredible. And the people are incredible. And
- 6:42Speaker 1: the guys are friends of ours. So That's really cool.
- 6:46Speaker 1: Along with it, we're playing a lot of performing arts centers.
- 6:49Speaker 1: And then during the summer months, we play some fairs
- 6:52Speaker 1: and festivals.
- 6:53Speaker 2: Yeah, I see you have a lot of festivals on
- 6:55Speaker 2: the lineup for the remainder of this year. Exile is
- 7:00Speaker 2: also performing at the 70s Rock and Romance Cruise next March.
- 7:05Speaker 2: That should be fun. Are you excited to perform on
- 7:09Speaker 2: the cruise ship?
- 7:11Speaker 1: Sure. This is our second time in. it's funny, you know,
- 7:15Speaker 1: it's all these heritage rock acts, um, performing on board
- 7:20Speaker 1: and we have one big pop hit. So we, we
- 7:23Speaker 1: kind of snuck in there with one hit. And so
- 7:28Speaker 1: we get the, we get the hang, you know, with
- 7:30Speaker 1: all these people that we looked up to all those
- 7:32Speaker 1: years and admired. And now everybody's, uh, it's like, it's friendly. And, uh,
- 7:39Speaker 1: so we have a great time performing. It's an easy, uh,
- 7:43Speaker 1: gig i mean you're on board for four or five
- 7:46Speaker 1: days and you play like two 60 minute shows and
- 7:49Speaker 1: that's it you know the rest of it's just fun.
- 7:53Speaker 2: Yeah you don't have to move the drum kit constantly for.
- 7:56Speaker 1: That yeah we get our own stage so once it's
- 7:59Speaker 1: set it's set.
- 8:01Speaker 2: That's great listeners can find all upcoming shows on your
- 8:04Speaker 2: website in addition to touring exile also just released two
- 8:08Speaker 2: new singles this year Rain Keeps Fallin' and Look Out
- 8:12Speaker 2: Heart both are singles off the upcoming album Look Out Heart.
- 8:16Speaker 2: It releases this October. Steve, tell me about this new
- 8:20Speaker 2: album and how it came together.
- 8:23Speaker 1: Well, again, we're very fortunate. We're signed to a label
- 8:28Speaker 1: out of Florida, Clearwater Records. And, you know, at this
- 8:33Speaker 1: point in our careers, we're actually... kind of surprised that
- 8:38Speaker 1: we have a record deal and that we're still able
- 8:40Speaker 1: to record. Sarah, we always played on all of our records.
- 8:45Speaker 1: That wasn't always the case with country acts, particularly out
- 8:49Speaker 1: of Nashville. We're very proud of that. Everything you hear
- 8:54Speaker 1: on our records is us, and the same is true today.
- 8:58Speaker 1: We've been recording for Clearwater for some time now. We have,
- 9:01Speaker 1: I think, three studio albums with them. The most recent
- 9:06Speaker 1: We finished this year, earlier this year. It's called Look
- 9:09Speaker 1: Out Heart. And the title track was the first single.
- 9:14Speaker 1: And then now we have a second single called Rain
- 9:17Speaker 1: Keeps Falling.
- 9:19Speaker 2: Great singles. I was listening to them yesterday. I'm looking
- 9:22Speaker 2: forward to the upcoming album. Being in the studio for
- 9:27Speaker 2: this album, what does the recording process feel like for
- 9:31Speaker 2: the five of you today compared to when you were
- 9:34Speaker 2: recording in the 70s and the 80s?
- 9:37Speaker 1: Boy, it's really changed with technology particularly. Back in the
- 9:43Speaker 1: olden days, we would all go into the studio together
- 9:47Speaker 1: with a producer. By the time we got there, we
- 9:51Speaker 1: would have spent time in rehearsal with the new material.
- 9:57Speaker 1: But now it's entirely different. Our primary writers, of course,
- 10:01Speaker 1: are in the band, Sonny LaMere and JP Pennington. For
- 10:06Speaker 1: this album, they joined with another writer, Sarah. I'm sorry,
- 10:13Speaker 1: her last name escapes me right now. The three of
- 10:16Speaker 1: them wrote everything on the album. She lives here in Nashville,
- 10:22Speaker 1: as does Sonny. JP lives in Lexington, Kentucky still. So
- 10:26Speaker 1: they write by Zoom. Okay. And so once they've written
- 10:31Speaker 1: the song, then the guys shoot it out to us,
- 10:36Speaker 1: and we hear it. And then they accompany that with
- 10:39Speaker 1: ideas for basically basic ideas of what we should play
- 10:44Speaker 1: and sing. Then, uh, JP goes into a studio in
- 10:49Speaker 1: Lexington and he puts down some basic tracks. Uh, he
- 10:55Speaker 1: puts down the guitars and, uh, some percussion and then
- 11:00Speaker 1: he'll sing. Uh, if it's his lead vocal, he'll do that.
- 11:05Speaker 1: If it's, if less is going to do the lead vocal,
- 11:07Speaker 1: then less comes over. Less lives in Lexington too. Less
- 11:10Speaker 1: comes over and puts down his lead vocal. Once that's done, then, uh,
- 11:17Speaker 1: Sonny and Marlon, I don't sing. Sonny and Marlon will
- 11:19Speaker 1: drive to Lexington and spend a day doing background vocals
- 11:22Speaker 1: or two days, however long it takes. So then all
- 11:26Speaker 1: those tracks are shipped down to Nashville to a studio.
- 11:31Speaker 1: And then I go in and put in my drum parts.
- 11:35Speaker 1: And that usually takes two days to cover all the tracks.
- 11:38Speaker 1: As soon as I'm finished, Marlon comes in and puts
- 11:41Speaker 1: his tracks down, the keyboard's. And then we have all
- 11:45Speaker 1: the tracks, and then it's just a matter of mixing
- 11:46Speaker 1: and mastering.
- 11:48Speaker 3: So in a way, it kind of loses its family feel,
- 11:54Speaker 3: but it works.
- 12:00Speaker 1: And we all feel that this is the best music
- 12:02Speaker 1: we've ever made. JP and Sonny are producing, and it's phenomenal. Sonically,
- 12:08Speaker 1: it's the best we've ever done. And so, heck. which
- 12:13Speaker 1: is good news for us.
- 12:16Speaker 2: It's definitely different when you don't have to all be
- 12:19Speaker 2: in a live room to track anymore. You mentioned to
- 12:24Speaker 2: Modern Drummer Magazine about the evolution of playing to a
- 12:28Speaker 2: click track in Pro Tools. And when you were first
- 12:32Speaker 2: tracking your first few albums, it was... live vocal and instruments,
- 12:37Speaker 2: and now you're playing to a click track. Was it
- 12:41Speaker 2: tough to kind of adapt from the natural feel to
- 12:45Speaker 2: playing to a grid?
- 12:47Speaker 1: Yeah, I think every drummer I've ever heard of has
- 12:51Speaker 1: kicked up some dust when they had to start playing
- 12:55Speaker 1: to a click track. You like to think that you
- 12:58Speaker 1: can hold a groove and playing to a click track
- 13:02Speaker 1: is unnatural, but it's not. it's just a different perspective.
- 13:10Speaker 1: If you're doing a really good job, you bury the click.
- 13:13Speaker 1: In other words, if you're right on it, you really
- 13:16Speaker 1: can't even hear it. If you get off, you can
- 13:18Speaker 1: hear it. But it's nice. I played to a click
- 13:24Speaker 1: on stage for a long time, and I was the
- 13:27Speaker 1: only one playing to a click. So my band members
- 13:30Speaker 1: would get excited and pull me in one direction or
- 13:32Speaker 1: another in it. and it was a battle, but now
- 13:36Speaker 1: we're all playing to a click on stage, and it's great.
- 13:40Speaker 1: I mean, we just lock into the grooves like we
- 13:43Speaker 1: never have before, and everybody enjoys it.
- 13:46Speaker 2: That's great. So before, when everyone was getting used to it,
- 13:49Speaker 2: would you just turn the click off when everyone was
- 13:52Speaker 2: kind of in different places?
- 13:54Speaker 1: Yeah, occasionally. Most of the time, I could hold them.
- 13:58Speaker 1: They would stay with me, but Sometimes it did get outrageous,
- 14:01Speaker 1: and I'd just have ring children turn it off.
- 14:05Speaker 2: That's funny. Well, you've definitely grown with Evolution as a band,
- 14:10Speaker 2: and it's a treat to have a drummer on the
- 14:12Speaker 2: podcast today. We usually interview artists, guitar players. But I'm
- 14:18Speaker 2: sure I have a lot of listeners on today that
- 14:21Speaker 2: are also drummers, including my husband. Steve, I want to know,
- 14:26Speaker 2: what's your preferred drum kit and brands?
- 14:30Speaker 1: Oh, I love Yamaha. I had a Pearl endorsement for years,
- 14:34Speaker 1: and that was really great. I think they gave me
- 14:36Speaker 1: a total of five kits over as many years, and
- 14:43Speaker 1: that was really a Pearl, our great drums. But at
- 14:46Speaker 1: the end of the day, Yamaha is my pick, and
- 14:50Speaker 1: that's what I'm playing now.
- 14:52Speaker 2: Awesome. And behind you, is that an electric or practice kit?
- 14:57Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. It's the new Alesis kit. It's a practice kit,
- 15:03Speaker 1: so I didn't buy anything to use on stage. They're
- 15:06Speaker 1: like the bottom of the top of the line rated
- 15:10Speaker 1: electric kits, and I'm really enjoying it.
- 15:14Speaker 2: Yeah, we have one here. I definitely like that kit. Well,
- 15:17Speaker 2: thanks for giving us information on your drum brands. So
- 15:23Speaker 2: I want to talk about your band's hit, Kiss You
- 15:25Speaker 2: All Over. It spent four weeks at number one on
- 15:28Speaker 2: the pop charts in 1978. When that song exploded, you
- 15:33Speaker 2: found yourselves playing on stages with everyone from Aerosmith to
- 15:37Speaker 2: Fleetwood Mac. What's a favorite memory of yours from that
- 15:42Speaker 2: wild crossover era?
- 15:45Speaker 1: Well, as long as I live, I'll never forget the
- 15:47Speaker 1: first night that we hit the road with a huge
- 15:52Speaker 1: hit record. We have been playing fraternity parties and nightclubs.
- 15:59Speaker 1: And occasionally we'd get in and open for somebody like
- 16:02Speaker 1: we did open for Fleetwood Mac early on. But then
- 16:06Speaker 1: suddenly we had, well, the hottest record in the country.
- 16:11Speaker 1: And so they told us to hang on, cancel all
- 16:15Speaker 1: your shows, and wait. So we did that. I think
- 16:17Speaker 1: we waited about a month or six weeks. And the
- 16:20Speaker 1: very next show, we opened for Aerosmith at Market Square
- 16:23Speaker 1: Arena in Indianapolis to a sold-out house. I remember... Going
- 16:29Speaker 1: up those stairs to get on the stage, and I
- 16:32Speaker 1: had chills all over me. It was like going from
- 16:37Speaker 1: zero to 120 in an instant.
- 16:40Speaker 2: That's amazing. Yeah, and then decades later... The same song
- 16:45Speaker 2: resurfaced again. It found a whole new generation of fans
- 16:49Speaker 2: through movies like Happy Gilmore and Employee of the Month.
- 16:53Speaker 2: What was your reaction when you saw Adam Sandler singing
- 16:57Speaker 2: along to your groove on the big screen?
- 17:00Speaker 1: Oh, it was a treat. That song's like the Energizer Bunny.
- 17:05Speaker 1: It just will not quit. And it's given us a
- 17:09Speaker 1: great career. What a blessing. And when the song was,
- 17:13Speaker 1: our producer wrote it. And when it was brought to us,
- 17:16Speaker 1: we weren't really sure what to think of it because
- 17:19Speaker 1: it was so different from everything that we were doing.
- 17:24Speaker 1: So we worked it up, of course, and recorded it.
- 17:26Speaker 1: And then we started playing it live and it got
- 17:28Speaker 1: no reaction at all until it hit the radio. And
- 17:32Speaker 1: then it was gangbusters from that point on.
- 17:36Speaker 2: Most of your songs are so crossover, like you mentioned,
- 17:40Speaker 2: shifting from rock to pop to country. Was it a
- 17:45Speaker 2: challenge for you at all shifting the genres you were
- 17:49Speaker 2: playing as a drummer, or did you always enjoy being
- 17:53Speaker 2: a crossover genre band?
- 17:56Speaker 1: No, it wasn't a struggle at all, really, because we
- 18:00Speaker 1: had all done so much session work. You know, as
- 18:04Speaker 1: a session musician, you have to be a chameleon. If
- 18:07Speaker 1: a country client comes in, you play country. If a
- 18:09Speaker 1: gospel client comes in, you know, we play gospel, pop.
- 18:13Speaker 1: You know, you're doing all the different formats in the studio.
- 18:15Speaker 1: So we were all sort of well-versed in the different formats.
- 18:23Speaker 1: And we all always shared the same tastes. All of
- 18:29Speaker 1: us grew up loving what we heard on the radio,
- 18:31Speaker 1: Top 40 radio. stuff and we all gravitated towards R &
- 18:35Speaker 1: B as youngsters. But when you grow up in Central Kentucky,
- 18:41Speaker 1: you're going to play a lot of country music. We
- 18:44Speaker 1: played mostly country music in clubs up there, so we
- 18:49Speaker 1: had that under our belt. When we made the decision
- 18:53Speaker 1: to switch from pop to country, it was a natural evolution.
- 19:00Speaker 1: We went into a basement of a piece of rental
- 19:03Speaker 1: property that I had at the time and spent six
- 19:06Speaker 1: weeks transforming from pop to country with the new material.
- 19:14Speaker 1: But it was all natural, Sarah. It was just not
- 19:18Speaker 1: a struggle at all.
- 19:19Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. That's amazing. Exile made their Opry
- 19:24Speaker 2: debut in 2008. You guys have logged well over 120
- 19:29Speaker 2: appearances on the Opry stage, and you openly shared that
- 19:34Speaker 2: becoming official members of the Opry family, it's an ongoing dream.
- 19:38Speaker 2: What would that formal invitation mean to you and your
- 19:42Speaker 2: band at this point in your career?
- 19:44Speaker 1: It would be incredible. Honestly, Sarah, I don't think it's
- 19:49Speaker 1: going to happen. It's not that we're not qualified, but
- 19:55Speaker 1: we do have an R & B bent to our
- 19:58Speaker 1: country music. And I think that will disqualify us. Our
- 20:02Speaker 1: manager disagrees. I'm glad that he does. And he has
- 20:05Speaker 1: an ongoing campaign to have us inducted. It would be
- 20:10Speaker 1: incredible if we were inducted into the Grand Ole Opry.
- 20:17Speaker 1: We admire those people, those artists, members so much. And
- 20:23Speaker 1: when we get out there, there's a lot of artists
- 20:26Speaker 1: around when you play the Opry. And so it's kind
- 20:30Speaker 1: of old home week. We touch base with artists we
- 20:33Speaker 1: haven't seen in a while on the road. And of course,
- 20:36Speaker 1: the audience is incredible. They play seats, I think, about 5,000.
- 20:39Speaker 1: It's usually settled out. The production's fantastic. You have to
- 20:44Speaker 1: run on and run off. You get two songs, maybe three.
- 20:48Speaker 1: You don't play your own gear. You play what's there.
- 20:51Speaker 1: And so it's a little chaotic, but boy, there's so
- 20:55Speaker 1: much prestige and status being involved. We'd love to be members.
- 20:59Speaker 2: Isn't there a rule on the Opry stage that you
- 21:03Speaker 2: can't mess with the drum kit? Like you can't change
- 21:06Speaker 2: the height.
- 21:07Speaker 1: Of Well, you know, they expect you not to. It's
- 21:13Speaker 1: not a rule, not a formal rule. But for obvious reasons,
- 21:19Speaker 1: there's so little time between acts. It's a professional courtesy
- 21:25Speaker 1: between drummers to not move or move as little as
- 21:28Speaker 1: you possibly can. I'll make an adjustment to the hi-hat
- 21:31Speaker 1: height usually and maybe the tilt on the snare drum
- 21:34Speaker 1: and that's about it. Eddie Bears and Matthew Beckett are
- 21:39Speaker 1: the two regular drummers on the show, both of them
- 21:43Speaker 1: monster session players. So if nothing else, out of respect
- 21:50Speaker 1: for them, I make sure that I don't make too
- 21:53Speaker 1: many alterations.
- 21:54Speaker 2: Right. Well, I fully support your manager's campaign for getting
- 22:00Speaker 2: you guys a formal invitation to join the Opry team.
- 22:04Speaker 2: I think it's well-deserved. Putting it out here on the
- 22:07Speaker 2: universe for our podcast listeners, you have performed at the
- 22:10Speaker 2: Opry so many times. Steve, it's been a treat having
- 22:14Speaker 2: you on Taking a Walk Nashville today. My last question
- 22:17Speaker 2: for you, we're on Taking a Walk Nashville, so what's
- 22:21Speaker 2: your all-time favorite studio you have ever walked into and
- 22:26Speaker 2: recorded in Nashville?
- 22:29Speaker 1: Well, I guess our history, we have a history in
- 22:32Speaker 1: Los Angeles, but in Nashville, when we started turning into
- 22:40Speaker 1: a country band, we started recording at the sound shop
- 22:44Speaker 1: that was owned by Buddy Killen, who was our producer
- 22:47Speaker 1: at the time. It's since been leveled and other things
- 22:51Speaker 1: have been built. But that was a legendary studio. And
- 22:55Speaker 1: we did, I think, probably four or five albums there.
- 22:58Speaker 1: And so that's really where my heart is.
- 23:02Speaker 2: That's great. Yeah, and as you mentioned, today it sounds
- 23:05Speaker 2: like you do a lot of recording in multiple studios,
- 23:09Speaker 2: some in Lexington, and then it sounds like you record
- 23:12Speaker 2: your drums here in Nashville.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Right.
- 23:14Speaker 2: That's great. Well, Steve, thank you so much for being
- 23:17Speaker 2: on the podcast today. Listeners can look forward to Exile's
- 23:22Speaker 2: upcoming shows. Find it on your website and also your
- 23:27Speaker 2: upcoming album, Look Out Heart, that releases this October. Steve,
- 23:32Speaker 2: thank you again.
- 23:33Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Sarah. Thanks for listening to Taking a
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