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55KRC Friday Show - Tech Friday, Steve Goodin, Robert Sprague, Jack Windsor, Cory Bowman · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Five o five at fifty five KRC the talk station. Friday. Yay,
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  Speaker 1: some sense a vacation.
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  Speaker 2: There.
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  Speaker 1: It is a woo hoo for Friday. All right? Well
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  Speaker 1: asking Joe Strecker questions, not hearing him. I heard him
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  Speaker 1: that time. Uh it is Brian Thomas right here. Glad
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  Speaker 1: to be the host of the fifty five Casey Morning Show,
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  Speaker 1: especially on a Friday where I feel a little bit lighter.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why, I guess just the reality as
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  Speaker 1: we go into a weekend. We've got some great plans
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  Speaker 1: going on this weekend, and hope you can stick around
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  Speaker 1: all morning. What an amazing show, Joe tracker Man. This
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  Speaker 1: is the kind of lineup that just really puts a
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  Speaker 1: big smile on my face. And by the fact I
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  Speaker 1: always have a smile on my face on a Friday morning.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up Tech Friday, Love talking to Dave had her
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  Speaker 1: Tech Friday to children at risk for identity theft. From
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  Speaker 1: here we go. A new word we can learn together today, sharonting. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: another topic, another stupid new TikTok trend, which is basically
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  Speaker 1: boiled down to creating home invasion photos with artificial intelligence
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  Speaker 1: in order to scare parents. Into calling nine to one
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  Speaker 1: one that that's even a thing if you sit back
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  Speaker 1: and make up something extraordinarily stupid whole cloth, go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and sit down, come up with something that's dumber than
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  Speaker 1: that anyway. Plus the TransUnion data breach, so your big
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  Speaker 1: credit Union another data breach. Been through that one before.
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  Speaker 1: We'll hear about that from Tech Friday's Dave Hatter, Steve Gooden,
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  Speaker 1: counsel candidate Steve good and lawyer extraordinary Steve good and
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  Speaker 1: Steve good from the law from a porter right return
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  Speaker 1: to the fifty five Caresiting morning show to give us
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  Speaker 1: a lowdown on his campaign. What's going on with that?
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  Speaker 1: Plus apparently getting involved in a social media bickering with
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  Speaker 1: Irish Rowley, which I guess is not difficult to do.
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  Speaker 1: My understanding is if you mentioned your name, you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: end up in some social media back and forth. That is,
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  Speaker 1: if you choose to engage in social media. Steve Gooden,
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  Speaker 1: as a candidate for office, must do that, I suppose
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  Speaker 1: to some degree in spite of the fact that my
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  Speaker 1: employer is not happy with me for it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you don't necessarily have to engage in social media if
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to don't do it. I have a
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  Speaker 1: minimalist presence out in the world on social media, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm actually kind of proud of that. You can find
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  Speaker 1: me on Facebook and you'll see me wish you a
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  Speaker 1: happy Friday every Friday, as I did this morning. Let
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  Speaker 1: you know where a listener lunch is, and maybe post
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  Speaker 1: a picture of the Doberman or my grandkiddy ash Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: we'll hear from the current Treasurer Robert Sprague, who's running
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  Speaker 1: for Secretary of State. Robert Spragg joins the program after
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  Speaker 1: Steve Good and Steve at seven oh five. Robert Spragg
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  Speaker 1: at seven thirty. We'll get the latest on the campaign.
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  Speaker 1: What is the Buckeye Business Loan Program? Plus Ohios to
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  Speaker 1: begin accepting cryptocurrency as payment for state services? How's that
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  Speaker 1: going to go? That's always like piece of God for me,
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  Speaker 1: cryptocurrency anyway, Jack Windsor at eight oh five, editor in
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  Speaker 1: chief of the iiO pres Network. Jack returns at eight
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  Speaker 1: o five to talk about dwines war on Hemp and
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  Speaker 1: Bill Sitz's property tax plan, the board that was created
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  Speaker 1: after Governor de Wine vitos some of the tax relief
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  Speaker 1: provisions in the budget. He promised big things from this
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  Speaker 1: board of harumphers. Bill sites on that board. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to find out what they came up with. Jack wins
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  Speaker 1: is going to explain it to me, because the reporting
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  Speaker 1: I read on it it was again also like the
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  Speaker 1: piece of God. It's like what I don't even really
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  Speaker 1: quite understand what the proposals are. So smarter people to
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  Speaker 1: me joined the program like Jack Windsor to get this
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  Speaker 1: out and educate all of us on that. Finally, Joe
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  Speaker 1: Drecker cracking me up this morning eight thirty. Did you
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  Speaker 1: watch the debate last night between Corey Bowman and a
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  Speaker 1: Toab Parvall. I'd love to hear from you. If you did,
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  Speaker 1: please call five on three seven four nine fifty five hundred,
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  Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty two three talk count five fifty
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  Speaker 1: on AT and T. Phondes have to acknowledge I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: watch it. I was just I got to bed at
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  Speaker 1: eight and last night I was just I was nodding
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  Speaker 1: off before even eight o'clock. So I have to admit
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  Speaker 1: that we'll hear from Joe's got it on the rundown.
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  Speaker 1: Jd Vance's half brother joins the program at eight thirty
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  Speaker 1: to talk about the debate the aftermath and if social
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  Speaker 1: media comments, and I did go to Facebook this morning
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of people said he did a fantastic job,
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  Speaker 1: some describing a f to have Provoll as arrogant and
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  Speaker 1: a bit of a well we give an award era
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  Speaker 1: in the fifty five KCEME morning show, typically in the
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  Speaker 1: five o'clock hour, and some are suggesting maybe after a
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  Speaker 1: Provall was worthy of the award. If you saw the debate,
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  Speaker 1: you can let me know one way or the other,
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  Speaker 1: who won the debate. What you who you thought made
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  Speaker 1: better points? So he thought came across as a more
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  Speaker 1: credible candidate. I saw that they were talking about crime
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  Speaker 1: right out of the gate. Is the city safe? Do
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  Speaker 1: the candidates believe this city stafe? And all the reporting,
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  Speaker 1: all the crime statistics show that violent crime is down.
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  Speaker 1: Violent crimes do, however, we do have an uptick and
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  Speaker 1: property crime, which is well reflected in certain areas in
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  Speaker 1: downtown Cincinnati. Everybody seems to believe that crime is a
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  Speaker 1: serious problem in downtown Cincinnati, notwithstanding what the crime stats suggests.
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  Speaker 1: Corey Bauman suggested that these cities response to crime has
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  Speaker 1: been a little too late. I think He's got a
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  Speaker 1: valid argument on that we have all these beatdowns which
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  Speaker 1: result in the city reacting, what do we get in
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  Speaker 1: the aftermath of the multiple beatdowns? We had the stabbing
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  Speaker 1: of Sarah Herringer's husband in their apartment, and over the rhyme,
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  Speaker 1: we had Holly who's been on the thirty five Ksey
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  Speaker 1: Morning Share, receiving an undist without question, an inexcusable, inexplicable
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  Speaker 1: punch of the face for doing literally nothing, which was
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  Speaker 1: the result was a reaction, which is what Corey Bauman
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  Speaker 1: pointed out. You know, you're being reactive, not proactive. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: if we had a bigger police presence in downtown Cincinnati
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  Speaker 1: before that beatown occurred, that might never have happened. That
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  Speaker 1: kind of suggestion, which I think makes sense. Proval said
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  Speaker 1: he believes statistics show that the crime is down, but
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't believe that matters to the residents who believe
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  Speaker 1: that it is very dangerous out there. He said, what
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  Speaker 1: matters is what's in the hearts and minds of Cincinnatians.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good point perception. What people's lived experience is
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  Speaker 1: a lot more important than reality what the crime statistics day.
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  Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people believe the crime
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  Speaker 1: statistics have been fudged. I mean, if you can't even
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  Speaker 1: find out there's a felony murder on the criminal docket
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  Speaker 1: when you look, because the clerk courts took them off
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  Speaker 1: of the criminal docket, you might not have a real
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  Speaker 1: good perception of what's actually going on in terms of crime. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I had to interject that, because we recently found that
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  Speaker 1: that was going on. So he said, what matters to
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  Speaker 1: the hearts and minds of Cincinnatians. Many of them don't
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  Speaker 1: feel safe, which is why the city council moved quickly
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  Speaker 1: to prioritize visibility. For the first time in a very
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  Speaker 1: long time, par Vall said, police officers are out of
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  Speaker 1: their squad cars and walking to beat. Isn't that a
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  Speaker 1: concession of Corey Bowen's part that you've been reactive. For
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  Speaker 1: the first time in a very long time, police officers
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  Speaker 1: are out of their squad cars and walking to beat. Well,
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  Speaker 1: why did it take so long to do that? Par
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  Speaker 1: of All promised that we're going to continue to hiring
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  Speaker 1: police officers. He'll continue to work with the police department,
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  Speaker 1: who did not endorse him. He actually got asked about
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  Speaker 1: the FOP since they didn't endorse him and voted no
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  Speaker 1: confidence earlier this year. He addressed the state how we
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  Speaker 1: would win their support back. Parvall was asked about that,
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  Speaker 1: he said he works to collaborate with the police. Talking
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  Speaker 1: about the recruitment initiatives this council, he said, as opposed
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  Speaker 1: to the past, as invested in recruit classes every single year,
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  Speaker 1: and we continue on that path, we will hit the
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  Speaker 1: compliment that we need at some point in the future,
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  Speaker 1: I might interject, we don't know when that's going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: It's a little difficult getting police officers to actually well,
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  Speaker 1: getting people actually to apply for the police officers to roll.
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  Speaker 1: And if you get brand new people that got to
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  Speaker 1: go through a recruit class, which takes like six months
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  Speaker 1: or more, you can only do a couple of those
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  Speaker 1: a year. So you're trying to do lateral hires. And
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  Speaker 1: there's only so many people out in the world that
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  Speaker 1: are at a police department that might be willing to
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  Speaker 1: come to the City of Cincinnati. Where I think the
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  Speaker 1: perception is the government, the city council and the mayor
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  Speaker 1: and the city manager don't really seek to get along
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  Speaker 1: well with the police officers. Most of them are comprise
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  Speaker 1: the folks who have been part of the defund the
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  Speaker 1: police movement. So go ahead and work toward that goal.
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  Speaker 1: We can't get an immediate compliment. That's the problem. What
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  Speaker 1: do you do with the with the resources you've got now.
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  Speaker 1: So Bowman was endorsed by the FOP also noted that
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  Speaker 1: the Firefighters Union didn't endorse AFTAB proval either. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know that they hasn't endorsed Bowman, but they specifically have
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  Speaker 1: refused to endorse AFTAB proval. Housing here's an interesting one.
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  Speaker 1: Candidate's asked to address the housing development like in Hyde Park, which, really,
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  Speaker 1: if I may be frank, at the five o'clock hour,
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  Speaker 1: pissed off the residents of Hyde Park. That's why they
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  Speaker 1: got a signature initiative to get it on the ballot.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't have to do that because the city backed off
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  Speaker 1: on its well dictatorial mandate that they were going to
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  Speaker 1: do in Hyde Park what the city council told them
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  Speaker 1: to do and they would have no say in it.
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  Speaker 1: So you're walking into a real problem in that kind
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  Speaker 1: of line of questioning. So what about Hyde Park? Bowman
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  Speaker 1: said that it's the job of elected officials to reflect
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  Speaker 1: the will of the voters. Interesting concept that one representative democracy,
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  Speaker 1: pointed out by Corey Bowman. That's the reason you're in
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  Speaker 1: the office. He criticized the Connected Community plan as well
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  Speaker 1: he should, He said, the Hyde Park development was the
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  Speaker 1: first time that we're seeing what is this connected Community's
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  Speaker 1: issue is about. It's about city Hall dictating what zoning
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  Speaker 1: needs to be for our communities without considering the voices
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  Speaker 1: of the communities. Well, stated good point Corey Bowman. That's
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  Speaker 1: exactly why the city capitulated and withdrew its imposition of
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  Speaker 1: its plans on Hyde Park. I love Purvol's response, pointing
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  Speaker 1: out Cincinnati's in a housing crisis and we need affordable housing. Now,
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  Speaker 1: what is affordable housing? Market forces are going to dictate
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  Speaker 1: that to a large degree, unless, of course, you do
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  Speaker 1: a zoron mom dommy rent control kind of thing. Doesn't
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  Speaker 1: exactly inspire investors that might otherwise build housing if you're
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  Speaker 1: going to dictate what the rent can be. Nobody suggested
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  Speaker 1: that yet. But what is affordable housing and how do
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  Speaker 1: you bring it about? It's a big question. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to do Section eight housing that kind of thing, So,
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  Speaker 1: he said, the city's previous zoning laws were hindering progress.
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  Speaker 1: Talk to Corey Bowman about that the previous zoning laws
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  Speaker 1: were hindering progress, but they were preventing people from actually
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  Speaker 1: investing in buildings. He had area of folks in his
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  Speaker 1: area that wanted to put in housing. They wanted to
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  Speaker 1: do their own thing. They had ideas that might make
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  Speaker 1: the builder or the rehaber, as the case may be, profit,
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  Speaker 1: and all kinds of hurdles were thrown down in front
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  Speaker 1: of those efforts by up the city its regulations, it's rules,
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  Speaker 1: and its vision for what is approved or what will
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  Speaker 1: be approved of what won't be approved. Purwell said that
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  Speaker 1: they sometimes need to disagree with residents, they being the
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  Speaker 1: city council of the mayor in one part of town,
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  Speaker 1: in order to address the needs of the residents in
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  Speaker 1: the entire city, so Hy Park, you must capitulate to
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  Speaker 1: the broader needs of the collective city of Cincinnati, even
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  Speaker 1: though your neighborhood is completely separate and different from say,
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  Speaker 1: Bond Hill or any other of the fifty two neighbors
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  Speaker 1: in the neighborhoods in the city of Cincinnati. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to do the hard, sometimes unpopular work of
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  Speaker 1: building housing across Cincinnati because poll after poll shows you
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  Speaker 1: we need housing and we need more, specifically affordable housing. Huh.
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  Speaker 1: I think anyone could just generally say we all might
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  Speaker 1: want affordable housing. Affordability is really I suppose a question
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  Speaker 1: of individual family income. What is and what is not affordable? Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: questions about immigration and the worst the Trump administration did
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  Speaker 1: come up. How are you going to work with the
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  Speaker 1: Trump administration? Among others? Did anybody play the drinking game
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  Speaker 1: last night watching the debate? I'd love to hear from
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  Speaker 1: you again. Please call if you watch. I'd love to
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  Speaker 1: know what your perceptions of it were. Five eighteen right
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  Speaker 1: of things to talk about before we get to Dave
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  Speaker 1: to click on crime stopper bag guy that week. We'll
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  Speaker 1: catch one later in the day. Of course, we had
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  Speaker 1: Jay rattlafon yesterday, the our aviation expert, fun times with him.
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  Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson, you got it on and on and
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  Speaker 1: on fifty five kr sea dot Com over to the
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  Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal speaking of crime, Urban crime spike is real,
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  Speaker 1: So what is your perception? What is the reality. Apparently
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  Speaker 1: national crime is way up and point out President Trump's
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  Speaker 1: crime is ramp at the US city's well. Critics assert
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  Speaker 1: that it's under control and dropping that sounds like a
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  Speaker 1: local issue or statement doesn't And Trump sent the National
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  Speaker 1: Guard to select cities. Of course, a judge just yesterday
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  Speaker 1: blocked Trump's Illinois National Guard deployment. Didn't see that coming
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  Speaker 1: digit anyway. Associated Pressure reports that the president's rhetoric mirrors
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  Speaker 1: that of conservatives going back decades who have denounced cities,
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  Speaker 1: especially those with majority non white populations or led by
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  Speaker 1: progressives as lawless or crime ridden and in need of
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  Speaker 1: outside intervention. Ap having to go with Trump, so question mark,
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  Speaker 1: they ask, have our cities become crime ridden and unpleasant
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  Speaker 1: or are they safe and livable? Then they turned to
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  Speaker 1: the research from the Bureau of Justice Statistics National Crime
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  Speaker 1: Victimization Survey, they suggested answers the question. The survey finds
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  Speaker 1: at the rate of violent crime in urban areas increased
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  Speaker 1: sixty one one percent between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty four. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: that spike only in cities. Turning to suburban and rural areas,
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  Speaker 1: they said increase in violent crime over the same time
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  Speaker 1: period four percent in suburban and two percent increase in
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  Speaker 1: rural areas, which they say isn't statistically significant. There's your difference.
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  Speaker 1: Live in a city, be faced with a massive increase
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  Speaker 1: in crime, live out in the burbs, and you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be okay, they say. In twenty nineteen, before George Floyd,
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  Speaker 1: pandemic closures, and the defund police movement, the rate of
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  Speaker 1: violent crime in urban areas was roughly identical to the
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  Speaker 1: rate nationwide. In twenty twenty four, the rate of violent
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  Speaker 1: crime in urban areas forty six percent higher than the
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  Speaker 1: nationwide rate, more than double one hundred and four percent
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  Speaker 1: higher the rural rate. Pivoting over to property crime, they
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  Speaker 1: say it's always been more prevalent in cities than elsewhere,
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  Speaker 1: but the gap has widened. Nineteen property crime fifty one
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  Speaker 1: percent higher in urban areas than nationwide twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: Are you ready eighty six percent higher number of property
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  Speaker 1: crime victimizations in twenty twenty four per thousand households one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and eighty one point six in urban areas, ninety
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  Speaker 1: one point six in suburban and only forty eight point
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  Speaker 1: three in rural areas. Those rural and suburban areas looking
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  Speaker 1: mighty appealing, aren't they? Rather than relying on police reports,
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  Speaker 1: National Crime Victimization Survey asked US residents whether they were
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  Speaker 1: a crime victim recently. If so, says the nature asks
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  Speaker 1: the nature of the crime, demographics of those involved, and
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  Speaker 1: whether crime was reported the police. Nation's largest crime survey
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  Speaker 1: has been conducted since the Nixon administration, so it goes
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  Speaker 1: back quite a bit. One thing the survey cannot measure,
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  Speaker 1: the Journal points out, is homicide race, as it's a
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  Speaker 1: survey of victims this survey conducted murders, they say are
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  Speaker 1: the easiest crime to count, so police statistics in this
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  Speaker 1: room should be quite reliable. Homicide count in two cities
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  Speaker 1: that Trump sent guards to District of Columbia, look there,
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  Speaker 1: number homicides rose thirteen percent that time period twenty nineteen
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  Speaker 1: to twenty twenty four, and sixty one percent up if
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  Speaker 1: you put it back to twenty seventeen and compare it
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  Speaker 1: to Trump twenty twenty four. Homicides about doubled between twenty
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  Speaker 1: nineteen and twenty four, and they say it's true. Both
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  Speaker 1: cities had even more murders than twenty one and twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty two than twenty twenty four. That shows how high
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  Speaker 1: their murder rates were before falling back. It's that's that
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  Speaker 1: COVID era murder rate. As to the demographics of the crime,
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  Speaker 1: survey finds a likelihood that whites, blacks, and Hispanics will
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  Speaker 1: be victims matches the percent of the population. Fifty two
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  Speaker 1: percent of incidents involving black victims also featured black offenders.
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  Speaker 1: The result not true for any other racier group. They say,
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  Speaker 1: including up the survey results, the primary reason black residents
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  Speaker 1: were disproportionately likely to be victims of crime despite the
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  Speaker 1: high rate of interracial crime, is that there are comparatively
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  Speaker 1: few crimes committed against black victims by white offenders. Survey
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  Speaker 1: shows white residents made up sixty percent of the population,
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  Speaker 1: yet were offenders in only seven percent of incidents involving
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  Speaker 1: black victims. That's the connection between crime and crime is
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  Speaker 1: Black on black crime is statistically much more significant than
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  Speaker 1: white on black crime, they say, and conclude most overlook
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  Speaker 1: US crime story in recent years has been the huge
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  Speaker 1: crime spike in our cities. Violent crime doesn't rise in
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  Speaker 1: suburban or rural areas, but rises sixty one percent in
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  Speaker 1: urban areas. That should be big news. They conclude. Trump
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  Speaker 1: is right that American cities aren't nearly as safe as
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: they were before. Systemic racism became a familiar accusation and
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: defund the police became a rallying crime stir that pot
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  Speaker 1: of division, defund the police, low and behold, crime goes
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  Speaker 1: through the roof five point twenty seven Right now, fifty
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  Speaker 1: Five thirty one on it Friday, one hour for Now
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  Speaker 1: Tech Friday with Dave hat Or. Next, Steve Gooden returned
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  Speaker 1: in the program talk about the campaign got Treasure, Robert
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Sprague running for Secretary of State. Coming up, Jack wins Or,
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  Speaker 1: editor in chief the High Press Network, coming up, Dwin's
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  Speaker 1: war on Him, plus sites property tax Bill. Can't wait
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  Speaker 1: to have Jack on the program to explain that property
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  Speaker 1: thirty to talk about the debate. Over to the phones.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see what Tom's got this morning, Tom, thanks for calling.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Friday brother.
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, And today is the day I broke out
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: the hoodie for the first time this season. So I
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: figure forty two degrees warrants, that's why a hooded sweatshirt.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought about that when I got out of
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  Speaker 1: my car. You know, my world reality is I am
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  Speaker 1: in my garage walking to my car, which takes about
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: five seconds to get in my car. My garage obviously
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: a lot, you know, more comfortable than outside. Then I
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: get out of my car and I park in the
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  Speaker 1: parking garage here and I'm only outdoors for another ten
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  Speaker 1: seconds as I walk into the elevator area. So I
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  Speaker 1: felt the cold, and I thought, yeah, maybe I should
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: say something about putting a jacket on this morning, but
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not exposed to the temperatures enough to feel like
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  Speaker 1: I really need one.
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  Speaker 4: You have a rough life, Brian.
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  Speaker 1: I know I did.
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  Speaker 5: It must be tough being you. Now.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: The only difficult thing about being me is getting up
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: at two thirty in the morning and having to miss
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: things like the debate. Yeah, that's that's it. Was it crime?
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  Speaker 4: Some of us get up, some of us get up
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: at two thirty in the morning, but not to go
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: to work, if you know what I mean.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, anyway, I'm sixty.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're sixty. You know exactly what I'm talking about.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys laughing right now.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're you're talking about crime this morning, and
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: you're talking about what causes crime. And I mean, it's
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: a it's a no brain there where. I mean, we're gonna,
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: we're gonna beat this drum, beat the dead horse, whatever
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: you want to call it.
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  Speaker 5: It's uh. Yeah, when you.
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  Speaker 4: Take away something that stops people from misbehaving, oh they're
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: gonna misbehave. It's just it's common sense, it's human nature.
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  Speaker 4: I don't understand I don't understand what the discussion is about.
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  Speaker 4: What what why? Some people just don't get it. You
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: have to have uh, well, what do you call it? Guardrails, roadbox?
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: You gotta have you know, the bouts are standing at
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: the door. You have to have a presence of something
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  Speaker 4: that people say, Hey, you know what, I'm probably gonna
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: I'm probably gonna behave myself because I don't want to
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: deal with that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let me ask that that you have. You have
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: trouble in form a couple of forms. And I'm wondering
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: whether you suspect that the the erosion of people's faith
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: and higher power has anything to do with the increase
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: in crime, because when you know, growing up, I always
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: like sort of felt the wrath of God might come
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: down to harm me. You know, if you're planning on
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: doing something wrong, You've got your parents to worry about,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: you have society, your peers to worry about and how
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: they look at you. You have the criminal justice system
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: and whether or not your activity or your anticipated behavior
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: might land you in the hands of the police officers.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: But then there was always that threat, in that fear
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  Speaker 1: that there might be some sort of divine retribution in
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  Speaker 1: the afterlife if you committed it. God views what I'm
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: planning on doing as a sin, so maybe I might
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  Speaker 1: want to not do that. Yeah, you think there's any
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  Speaker 1: connection with that?
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, fear of consequences. I mean, look at the left
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: is look what the left has tried to remove from
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  Speaker 4: society and been fairly successful at it. I mean, you
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: go all the way to the top, the most important
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: thing about God, removing God from everything they can possibly
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: removing from, treating people who believe in God and who
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: fear God or whatever, treating us like we're terrible people
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: and we're trying to browbeat other people. Know, We're just
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: trying to tell you we believe in God and we
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: don't want to upset him. We want to make him
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: happy with us. Yeah, some of it is because we
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: don't want his punishment. And then you go all the
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: way down to your parents, and then you talk about teachers.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: In school, there was always somebody around who would say
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: something and be able to do something about your behavior,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: and kids knew this. They don't know this anymore because
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: the people who have who have the ability to do
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: something about it, have been scared into not doing anything
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: about it. Don't I'm not gonna say nothing to these
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: kids because I don't want my carkeet or whatever. It's
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: become acceptable to lash out of the people who are
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: in place to keep our society going on the straight
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: and narrow and real quick to do something. Do you
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: think Hamas accepting the Trump's piece deal. Do you think
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: that him bowling up those boats in the Caribbean had
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: any effect whatsoever on their decision to go, you know what,
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: we might want to go along with this. This dude,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: this dude looks like he's gonna he's willing to do something.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know if if he had that in mind.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: I don't necessarily agree with doing that, but you know,
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: when you do stuff like that, it lets people know,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: you know what, I might not want to mess with
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: this guy. And sometimes mom and dad have to do
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: stuff like that, you know, not cross the line or
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: do something illegal, just show hey, I'm willing to step
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: in front of you and stop you from doing whatever
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: it is you're going to do. You have to let
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: people know that, because if you don't, all bets are
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: off and it's mass chaos. And that's exactly what the
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: left is about. Let's let everybody do whatever they feel
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: like doing, and it's reaping the benefits of exactly what
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: they're out to get. So don't vote Rhino and don't
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  Speaker 4: vote Democrats.
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  Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, Brian, Yeah, you have a great
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: weekend too. Yeah. Donald Trump did issue a profound threat saying, listen,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: you don't get in a settlement agreement. You don't you
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: don't you don't end this war, you don't release the hostages.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a world of wrath of God
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: type fury is going to be needed down upon you. Heye,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: And maybe they did put the two together. Trump's willing
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: to violate the Constitution in the United States of America,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: and will he nearly go around bombing boats that he
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: doesn't even know if they're coming to the United States
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: of America anymore? Jesus, this guy's maybe unhinged. Let's perhaps capitulate,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: just boiling it down from a different point of view.
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  Speaker 1: There five point thirty seven fifty five krs DE talk
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• 25:19
  Speaker 3: The talk station, can you play John the Fisherman?
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: It is five forty one, it is Friday. The answer
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: to that question is always yes, as long as Joe
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Striker's exactly show, the fifty five Karsite Morning Show, and
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: always putting a smile on the face of my friend Jeff,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: who anxiously awaits the moment. But you can hear less
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: hit the base round, Good morning, Jeff. Stack of stupid. Now,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: if you had to boil it on the stack of
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: stupid two three critical elements, they would include a naked
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: person that's not a Friday anyway. A naked person in
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  Speaker 1: Florida in a Walmart. We have a trifecto fund Amen
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: brother nine one one call about a naked guy chasing
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  Speaker 1: Walmart employees around a parking lot in North Florida. Man
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  Speaker 1: was still naked when police showed up. It was a
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  Speaker 1: quarter to three in the morning on a Wednesday, October eighth.
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  Speaker 1: Lake City Police Department responded to the responded it happened
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  Speaker 1: to Walmart West US Highway ninety, Lake City, Florida. The
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  Speaker 1: store was closed at the time. Court of police found arrival.
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  Speaker 1: Officers advised that an unknown male completely nude, was chasing
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  Speaker 1: employees in the parking lot and had fled toward a
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  Speaker 1: wooded area north of the store. Officers canvassy area located
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: to the guy in his hands and knees in a
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: wooded area. The subject appeared to be agitated and paranoid.
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  Speaker 1: Taken to the hospital of the staff, medically cleared and
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: to be arrested and taken a jail. Identified at the
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: jail via fingerprints, charged with indecent exposure and resisting an
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: officer without violence. Drugs are I'm going that direction to
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Joe paranoia entergy equation, and I'm going to flag it
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: as a drug issue. Oh, we got a local one here.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: It involves public nudity. It does not involve the Walmart,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: though it involves a TJ Max. Thirty year old man
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  Speaker 1: arrested Thursday, September twenty fifth, just reported last week facing
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: multiple charges, including theft and public nudity at the TJ
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Max on Ohio Pike or just off Ohio Pike. Union
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  Speaker 1: Township Police Department. Insert report said Cody Partridge now facing
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: charges of disorderly conduct, resistant arrests, substructing official business, and
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: of course, public indecency. Eleven thirty six am Tuesday, September
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: twenty third, officers called a responder to a disturbance. Employee
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: told police the Partridge inside the store yelling and screaming.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Partridge barely removed several backpacks from the shelf, put them
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: inside his own bag, also took down a shelf items
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: ended up on the ground. After that, he then exited
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: the store with the stolen stuff. Returned later. At that point,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: comple deletely naked and yelled at staff and customers. They
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: say the incident escalated when he picked up a pair
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  Speaker 1: of sweatpants, began arguing with a customer before leaving the store,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: and during the altercation, I love this when my concealed
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: cary friends out there, he threatened the customer with a
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: pair of scissors. The customer, in response, pulled out a firearm.
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  Speaker 6: Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiot.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Told Partridge to drop the scissors, that says the customer
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: then secured his firearm and exited the store to distance
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: himself from Partridge. The appropriate way of handling the situation.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Police got there by stead it poured it out Partridge,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: who was then shirtless and wearing gray pants, continuing to
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: yell profanities. Officers instructed him to stop. He ignored them
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: after warning him he would be taste. He still attempted
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: to walk away from the officers, and they said eventually
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: one of them in fact used the taser, which in
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  Speaker 1: opacitated mister Partridge. He continued resisting while on the on
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  Speaker 1: the ground. Officers ultimately were able to apprehend him. A
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: quarter of a report. There were no indication that he
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  Speaker 1: was under the influence of drugs or alcohol at the
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  Speaker 1: time of the incident. Just plain old batcrap insane five
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  Speaker 1: point forty five right now fifty five krs de talk station,
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  Speaker 1: more stupid or phone calls either the way he goes
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  Speaker 1: aokay with naked guy happened last week. He said he
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: was being bitten by snakes, phrasing Troy Edward Adkins, fifty
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: nine of Let's See Whiteville charged with a misdemeanor indecent
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: exposure and intoxicated and disruptive. Also charged with an unrelated
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: speeding ticket from Chadbourne Police. Bond set at five hundred dollars.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Shaff's report said deputies were called to the Seven Creeks
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Highway about five am after reports of this naked guy
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: our behaving erratically. They found him in a ditch and,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: according to the Urest report, exhibiting signs of extreme and
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: time oxication and disorientation and pulling at his genital area phrasing.
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  Speaker 1: In a related point, apparently, he told deputies that snakes
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  Speaker 1: were biting him phrasing, and asked them to quote cut
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  Speaker 1: the head off close quote phrasing. No, you think he's
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: a hockey player, Joe at getting deliberate penalties to get
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: in the penalty box. Oh, a snapshot. I don't know
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: considering the what he was engaged in by way of
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: behavior at the time he said cut the heat off.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: He was he referring to phrasing We're left to jar
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  Speaker 1: our own conclusions. Taken the Columbus Regional for evaluation, and
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: arrested after release. Oh look, naked guy.
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  Speaker 5: Good.
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  Speaker 1: We're in New Jersey for this one. We're a vilad
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: man accusa committe multiple lewed acts on Highbee Beach during
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the month of August, corn to Lower Township Police. In
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the first incident, a woman told police that she had
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: an interaction with the guy, later identified as forty four
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: year old Leonardo L. Madero. She said it made her uncomfortable.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Madera briefly left the area, reappeared naked and committing a
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: lewd act phrasing. A few days later, two people reported
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: a similar incident with a man committing a lewd act
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: where they were in a highby beach. Description given was
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: similar to the prior act that was I just mentioned,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: with acts seemingly being committed by the same person. Madero
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: identified as the suspect charged with multiple counts of ludenis
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: currently residing in the Cape May County Correctional Facility. A
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: woman who had worked as a substitute teachers now been
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: charged with allegedly arranging to meet a minor for the
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: purposes of engaging in sexual activity. Thirty year old how
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: are you doing? We have no idea because you're an idiot.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Thirty year old Crystal Sims, Cave City, charged with unlawfully
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: using electronic communication to solicit, procure, or promote a child
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: for sexual activity. Arrested October second after an interview with
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: the Baron County Sheriff's deputy. Released from that detention center
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: on a twenty five thousand dollars cash bond. Deputy Adam
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Bo said he received information that Sims had been communicating
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: with a male juvenile for the purpose of meeting him
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: for sex. Student told the deputy that she he had
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: met Simms when she was the substitute teacher in his class,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: who's watching your children? Student added, Simms later accept that
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: a friend request he's center on Snapchat. Student told deputies
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: out on August twenty second that he and Sims began
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: talking about meeting in Cave City to have sex and
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: recorded call man of the same day. A female can
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: be heard asking the juvenile if he is coming to
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: meet her. This edited the call later transitioned to a
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: video call in which she exposed breasts on the call
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: while she was in a shower.
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiots.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: While being recorded, so she had to record herself naked
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: in the shower. Brilliant. She was told deputies October second
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: that while substitute teachers, several boys in the class attempted
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: to add her on social media, but she didn't accept
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: any of those requests. She admitted to being the female
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: in the recorded call. I guess because it's her and
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: her boobs in the call, but said that she had
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: agreed to meet the student so that he could apologize
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: for the way he acted in class. Claims she didn't
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: meet the juils student and nothing physical happened between them. Yeah,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: so conceivable, you really, I see? Okay, So you're on
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: the call to arranged for an apology meeting. Why were
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: you in the shower naked recording yourself having that conversation? Yeah,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I know. Five fifty five fifty five KR. See the
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• 34:12
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• 34:15
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• 34:17
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• 34:34
  Speaker 1: morning and that your day even improves beyond the greatness
• 34:37
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• 34:39
  Speaker 1: hour Tech Friday with Dave Hatter Steve Gooden in one
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: hour latest on the campaign and he's apparently going back
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: and forth with Iris Rawley, the defund the police activists
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: currently on the City Cincinnati payroll. Ohio treasure Robert Sprague
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: running for Secretary of State in the current race. We
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: will get the latest on his campaign, learn about the
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Buckeye business blowing program and Ohio well upting cryptocurrency as
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: payment for state services. That's at seven thirty. Jack Windsor
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: from the Ohio Press Network on Dwine's war on him
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: and Bill Sitz property tax plan, along with Corey Bowman,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: who's going to join the program at eight three to
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: talk about the debate last night. Someone who's on the
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: phone right now, former Vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: mister smith Van himself running for Cincinnati Council. Christopher Smithman.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Welcome back, my friend. You're always welcome on the morning.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Should you get a chance to tune into the debate
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: last night, I.
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: Did Brian and a couple of observations, and I'll have
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: more on Monday during the Smither event. But one of
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: the things, you know the politician and power is hit
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: in the wrong direction or is worried, is when he
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: spends part of his debate blaming the previous administration. Yeah,
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: we spent time acting as if Mayor John Cranley or
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: our city manager Paula Bogg's new thing are responsible for
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: his current and condition. This guy has been the mayor
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: for years, four years. You've got to own it, and
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: so when you I just I'm signaling to the citizens
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: of Cincinnati as they vote today in Norwood, here's a
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: guy that wouldn't own anything. That's observation observation one. Observation
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: two for me was he acted as if he supported
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: the police the entire debate. Look, the Cincinnati Police Department
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: took a no confidence vote in this mayor. I have
• 36:37
  Speaker 7: never seen it before. So you have the police department saying, look,
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: I don't have any confidence in this man's leadership or
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: his administration. But if you heard him talking yesterday, you
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: would think that he was the greatest supporter of the
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: police department, when it is absolutely the opposite. I can't
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: wait to hear at some point from press than in
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: cob because there are two stories here in the story
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: that I believe Brian Thomas is the story coming out
• 37:08
  Speaker 7: of the FOP saying we have nine hundred and thirty
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: or so officers, two hundred of them are in drop.
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: We've had a administration that has been not supporting us.
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: It's made it more difficult for us to recruit. That
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: this is an administration that absolutely is a defund The
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: police are reimagine the police. They're even hiring a central
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: consultant who absolutely doesn't support the police department paying them
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: almost six hundred thousand dollars, and he stands before the
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: City of Cincinnati when crime is out of control, saying
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: that is John Cranley's fault. The previous administration in some
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: way is responsible for his failures.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Well, that's what I read, and I get you all day.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: He has been there quite some time, and his his
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: his points on his reaction to the crime. You know,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: he says, well that the stats are down, but I
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: understand people's perceptions. The crime is bad and we have
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: you know, reacted to that. Well, he only did it
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: after Holly got punched in the face and we had
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: the brutal brawl that was just at the end of
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: July in the fourth year of his term as the
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: mayor of the City of Cincinnati. It was at that
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: point that he decided to sort of rethink the way
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Patris police patrols are going to be and to start
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: enforcing the curfew, at least in certain neighborhoods in the city.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was in response. That was Corey's point,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: wasn't it that you're reactive? You should be proactive.
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: Exactly, And also the observation that we just had an
• 38:44
  Speaker 7: active shooting on Fountain Square this week, not two months ago,
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: literally this week, and so they presented this question to
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: both candidates that crime was down. This is coming from
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: the moderator. This is coming from the inquirer. Crime is down.
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: It's your perception. He's saying that, and those questions are
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: being asked. Think about this with Ronda Win, whose daughter
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: Cassandra Win was shot in the back in OTR kill
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: this year, just months ago, and with Holly sitting right
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: in front of them, like in.
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: The front row. So you have these two of it.
• 39:25
  Speaker 7: The only person who wasn't there was Sarah Hearing Hearinger,
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: who's who's whose husband Patrick was killed in OTR this
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: year in his own home. I'm saying, you have the inquirer,
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: the moderator, whoever this was, is Xavier even presenting the
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: question that crime is down and it's your perception and
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: my perception not reality, right, and the mayor doubling down
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: on that while these victims are right in front of him.
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: He could have easily said, right then, Holly, I am
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: so sorry for what happened to you. Ronda. I am
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: so sorry, Ronda win. What happened to your daughter on
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: my watch? She was shot in her back, thirty shots fired.
• 40:08
  Speaker 7: She was an innocent victim, a mother of five. He
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: has no connection with the reality of what you and
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: I and citizens are experiencing. That's the problem. This guy
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: is disconnected from reality. And so the question with leading.
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: I thought Corey did a good job answering it. But
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: there has to be a tremendous pushback at the ballot
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: box when people are voting, whether you're a Democrat, Independent,
• 40:35
  Speaker 7: or Republican, there has to be an action, Brian Thomas.
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: People can't just sit around and listen to this mayor
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: give them four more years. We're in an election and
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: then go in and cast a vote for here?
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Would you since you live in the city of Cincinnati
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: and you're always out canvassing and connection with your effort
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: to become since councilman again, you obviously have great connections
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: with a lot of neighbors in the community, and you will.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're just you're informed. Do you get the
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: perception that the residents of the city of Cincinnati are
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: enthused about voting for a FTA pervo means a blue city.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Corey Bowman's got this massive uphill challenge. He's got to
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: win over the hearts and minds of people who usually
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: don't even vote. And that's the point of my question.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: People will go out and vote when they're enthused about
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: a candidate, and if we're typically have a ten percent
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: fifteen percent turnout, I mean, that's maybe Corey Bowman's salvation
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: because I know people who know Corey Bowman and want
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: to see a different direction of the city. They seem
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: to be very motivated. The only problem is most of
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: the people that are truly motivated for Corey Bowman don't
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: even live in the city of Cincinnati. So what's your
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: perception of the lay of the landscape among the residents.
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: Well, Democrats in the city that I'm speaking to. We
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: were lid dropping in Mount Adams yesterday and there were
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: Democrats that we spoke to who are not supporting him
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: because they're very concerned about crime. So that was the feedback.
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: There were others that were saying, I'm going to hold
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: my nose or not show up at all and vote
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: for him because I am concerned about Donald Trump. And
• 42:10
  Speaker 7: we were trying to explain to those citizens that this
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: local election has nothing to do with Donald Trump. But
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: that's why you saw the mayor during the debate start
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: talking about Maga. Maga, he Keith, he's Keith. He's worried
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: about the re election. So what he's trying to do
• 42:30
  Speaker 7: is deflect and make this election about Donald Trump and
• 42:34
  Speaker 7: not about his terrible policies and the direction and his
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: inability to keep our fifty two neighborhoods and its residents faith.
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: That is his number one responsibility and he has failed
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: and the members of council has failed to do that.
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: That is why the police department took a no confidence
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: vote in his leadership.
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: But if you heard him, he was.
• 43:00
  Speaker 7: Spending more time talking about Maga and Trump and the
• 43:05
  Speaker 7: moderators refeeding him red meat, allowing him to walk down
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: that road with Corey Bowman standing next to him. This
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: election has nothing to do with that. Politics are local.
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: If you want your popholes fixed, if you want your
• 43:20
  Speaker 7: your if you want your snow removed, if you want
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: your trash removed, if you want to be safe with
• 43:25
  Speaker 7: police in fire, you've got to vote for Corey Bowman.
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: And so the other step that he took was he
• 43:32
  Speaker 7: said anybody and everybody supporting Corey Bowman is a MAGA person, right.
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: This is the MAGA ticket again. This is this cultural
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: signaling that he's trying to get his base and he's
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: trying to feed them in this most extreme way. Not
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: talking about the gunshots, the murders. I live in North Avondale.
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: There was a twenty five year old killed right in
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: Evingston in the last two weeks. I was lit dropping
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: in rolls line last weekend at twelve thirty in the afternoon,
• 44:04
  Speaker 7: there was a young man murdered in an apartment. His
• 44:09
  Speaker 7: body was still inside. I want you to hear that,
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: Brian Thomas, his body was still inside. As I just
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: happened to be lid dropping in Roseline. I'm saying, this
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: is the level of violence that's happening around us, whether
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: it's downtown, whether the woman who put up on a
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: Facebook page in Hyde Park that she's sitting at a
• 44:33
  Speaker 7: light and a group of young men get out of
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: their car broad daylight with guns and try to hijack
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: her car, try to take her out of her carjacker.
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: This is the craziness that's going on around us. And
• 44:47
  Speaker 7: the mayor just stood there yesterday saying it's your perception public,
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: it's the previous administration. This is John Cranley, this is
• 44:55
  Speaker 7: the previous city manager. Paula Balg's new things faught. It's
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: not me, and he did own anything. I thought Corey
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: did a good job. I think the mayor was trying
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: to be a bully. And the last point I want
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: to make, the outbursts that were happening in the audience
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: were an embarrassment.
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: Look, if you're going.
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: To hold a debate and be a moderator and you
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: start the debate off and you say I only want
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: applause at the beginning and applause at the end, there's
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: a point of that because you don't want to lead.
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: Something was happening in that audience yesterday that was absolutely inappropriate,
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: and the moderator didn't shut it down. You're you're clapping
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: and yelling and shouting while the city manor, while the
• 45:39
  Speaker 7: mayor is talking about the collaborative agreement. I don't know
• 45:42
  Speaker 7: who those people were, but I tell you that was
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: a poor showing for the moderator to not shut that down.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman will hear you on Monday at seven twenty.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Every Monday here in the fifty five Kresey Morning Show
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: the Smith. Keep up the great work, my friend, and
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: good looking the campaign trail looks like west Side. Jim
• 45:59
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• 46:01
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• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Happy Friday, Bottom the Air of course Tech Friday with
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Dave Hatter always something I look forward to. And David,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: you two, and it's always good to hear from west Side.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Jim next in line on the phones. What's said? Welcome
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: to the program, my friend. Good to hear from you
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: this morning.
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: Morning.
• 46:25
  Speaker 8: Brian, Yes, I watched every minute of it last night,
• 46:28
  Speaker 8: and first off, I like to comment on Corey. He
• 46:33
  Speaker 8: did a great job of sidetracking duck Boy when he
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: called him mister Bowman, Corey and Corey Bowman. So that's
• 46:44
  Speaker 8: the old political strategy of trying to kick off your
• 46:48
  Speaker 8: opponent by mentioning their names like that and seeing how
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: they would react. And Corey was very professional in each
• 46:56
  Speaker 8: one of those circumstances, and he didn't bite on what
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: he did. Now, I will give Purvall one credit. He
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: was well prepared through his bobos on mentioning the things
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: that he was trying to convince the public that Corey
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: was not qualified, and basically he kind of softballed that
• 47:19
  Speaker 8: several times about the fact of, oh, if you want
• 47:22
  Speaker 8: to run the city or you want to be mayor,
• 47:25
  Speaker 8: and those kind of, you know, objectives to Corey, and
• 47:28
  Speaker 8: Corey handled it very very well. Now, I don't the
• 47:34
  Speaker 8: one softball that was thrown Corey's way, and I hope
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: he brings it up in the next debate is when
• 47:41
  Speaker 8: Holly got decked, and you know, it was mentioned last
• 47:46
  Speaker 8: night and it was kind of dropped pretty quick. I
• 47:49
  Speaker 8: hope he brings it up about the fact that he
• 47:51
  Speaker 8: was out of town Purple and didn't respond. And I
• 47:57
  Speaker 8: don't think he's ever did respond to Holly, And I'm
• 47:59
  Speaker 8: not sure.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: About that, but about the fact that.
• 48:03
  Speaker 8: He didn't call her, didn't participate. I don't think he
• 48:06
  Speaker 8: had any of his city manager or anybody else call
• 48:10
  Speaker 8: her and see what her situation was.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Why I asked her that last week of listener lunch
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: and as of last Wednesday, anyone that he had not
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: reached out to her at all.
• 48:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and I don't think he will, No, I really don't.
• 48:22
  Speaker 8: It's Kevin Aldridge, is what Christopher was talking about. That
• 48:26
  Speaker 8: was the moderator. He's a bleeding liberal, works for the Enquirer.
• 48:31
  Speaker 8: If he doesn't work for the Enquirer, he's one of
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: their outlying people.
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: But I think it was a good debate.
• 48:40
  Speaker 8: I think the next one will tell more because it's
• 48:43
  Speaker 8: going to be on live TV, so people will listen
• 48:47
  Speaker 8: and watch. It was very easy to find last night.
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: It took me probably a minute, so I'm hoping a
• 48:54
  Speaker 8: lot of people watched it. As far as the audience
• 48:57
  Speaker 8: speaking out and clapping, I did hear a lot of
• 49:00
  Speaker 8: stuff for for Corey, unless I'm mistaken, when he was
• 49:05
  Speaker 8: bringing up points about the crime and things like that,
• 49:08
  Speaker 8: and granted, Christopher's right.
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: You shouldn't. You shouldn't do that.
• 49:13
  Speaker 8: But I did notice that Corey did get a lot
• 49:15
  Speaker 8: of response on some of his answers, so I'm happy
• 49:20
  Speaker 8: it went that way.
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: Again.
• 49:23
  Speaker 8: He handled himself very professionally, and the question of he
• 49:27
  Speaker 8: can handle this city part of all walked into the
• 49:29
  Speaker 8: clerk's office. The clerk's office, for god's sakes, that's about
• 49:33
  Speaker 8: as non political as far as a reputation and qualification
• 49:39
  Speaker 8: as you can get.
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: It's a job, and yes.
• 49:42
  Speaker 8: It is a Democrat job right now, and when he
• 49:45
  Speaker 8: walked in it was a Democrat job. But that doesn't
• 49:48
  Speaker 8: qualify him to be mayored. So why not give Corey
• 49:52
  Speaker 8: a chance? I mean, this guy has failed miserably, so
• 49:57
  Speaker 8: there's no reason not to give you know, a city
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: a new chance. And again, I'm not going to keep
• 50:04
  Speaker 8: beating a dead horse. But Corey did a great job
• 50:07
  Speaker 8: on coming back on everything that that Purvoll came outing with.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Glad to hear it. Well, appreciate your analysis and look
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: forward to the next debate and we'll see how things
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: go and encourage people to tune in to watch it.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: West Side, Jim, I hope you have a fantastic weekend,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: my friend. Appreciate you all lot. I really do. Sorry
• 50:23
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• 50:47
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• 50:49
  Speaker 9: Always my pleasure to be here, Brian.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: And a new word. This one's new on me. Every
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: time you show up you typically have a new word.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: I've learned a lot from you over the years. Today,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Sharon ting, what the hell was that?
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: Well, the concept is not new, but the word is
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: relatively new. Until I stumbled into this article, I had
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: not heard this term myself. Good And it's the idea
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: of parents sharing things online. For a long time, experts
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: have warned that parents share too much information about their kids,
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: and I think over the years, you and I have
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: talked about the fact that kids are often targeted for
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: identity theft, because if you can steal the identity of
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: a small child, it might be many years, if not
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: maybe a decade or more before they realize that their
• 51:33
  Speaker 6: identity has been stolen, you know, when they go to
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: get a loan, maybe apply for college, sure, go to
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: apply for a job or something like that. So it's
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: been well known in the industry that kids are targets
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: of identity theft, and this is on my mind a
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: really interesting term that can hopefully put a finer point
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: on this for parents that if you're going online and
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: sharing lots of information about your kids, photos, information about
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: what they do, information about their pets, and so forth,
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: it may eventually come back to bite them. And I
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: think it also is trying to drive home the point
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: that people typically don't really understand the idea of privacy
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: on the internet. Just because you're on TikTok and you
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: set something to private when you post it, does not
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: mean that whoever can see it won't take a screenshot
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: of it or something like that and share it with
• 52:22
  Speaker 6: Does it mean that the company that has that data
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: might not sell it or it might get breached. So
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: it's really a warning to parents that the less you
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: share about your kids, the better. And again, the idea
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: of this has been out there for a long time,
• 52:34
  Speaker 6: but I think this is sort of a catchy way
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: to hopefully drive this point home from parents and get
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: them to put less information online about their kids.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: That's interesting because my wife is probably listening right now.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: She traditionally listens to my program in the morning when
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: she's getting ready for work, and she's probably nodding and
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: smiling and basically saying, yeah, I told you so. Because
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: I rarely over the life of my children, I have
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: read really posted a picture of them. It's not because
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: I don't love them or I'm not proud of them.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: It's because my wife and I have a rule. We
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: don't put pictures of the kids up on social media period.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: End of story. My wife doesn't use even social media.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: But I remember one time I put a picture of
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: my I don't know my daughter or son up there,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: maybe both of them. Man, I got an earful when
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I got home, I mean an earful.
• 53:19
  Speaker 9: So well, that's the right approach.
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: I agree where I understand, and you know, I can't
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: say I've never been guilty of this, especially when my
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: oldest kids were younger. You know, I think especially when
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: social media was new and people didn't really understand these risks.
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: And I get as a parent, you know, you're proud
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: of your kids. You love your kids, right, you want
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: to you want to brag on them because you're proud
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: of them and you want to make them feel good
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: and that sort of thing. But here's what I think
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: people often lose sight of, especially now in the age
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: of AI, where it's not just the identity theft angle,
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: it's bullying, it's things like sex stortation, which we've talked
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: about before, and as a reminder, many kids have killed
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: themselves because they have been extorted by folks. And while
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: you know, some of these kids have made a mistake
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: and send a nude photo or something, I know you
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: and I've talked about the stories where use an AI
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: you can take someone's photo and basically make them appear
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: to be nude. You know, if you're a fourteen year
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: old kid and suddenly a fake nude picture of you
• 54:17
  Speaker 6: is sent to you and someone says, send me money,
• 54:20
  Speaker 6: are you going to be able to have the ability
• 54:22
  Speaker 6: to say, well, that's just a deep fake and I
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: don't care.
• 54:25
  Speaker 9: You know.
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: So there's a lot of different angles to this, but
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: you know, the identity theft one is where this mostly goes,
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: and it's it's the whole idea of you know, if
• 54:34
  Speaker 6: you put a picture of your kid on there with
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: their pet Fluffy, or a picture of them at their
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: first day at school X think about this. How many
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: times have you had to reset a password? And when
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: you set up your account, there these security questions. What
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: was your first school, what was your first pet, Well,
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: the bad guys potentially have access to that information through
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: information you're sharing about your kids, so when.
• 54:58
  Speaker 9: They do their in nefarious.
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: And you also have to understand, folks, so many of
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: the people who are behind the kind of crimes I'm
• 55:06
  Speaker 6: talking about here are essentially professional con artists. They're just
• 55:10
  Speaker 6: not out on the street trying to run a scam
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  Speaker 6: on you like in the movie to Sting. They're now
• 55:14
  Speaker 6: using these online tools to collect information, to impersonate you,
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: to impersonate someone else, to steal your information. So again,
• 55:22
  Speaker 6: you've got the sextortation risk, you've got the bullying risk,
• 55:25
  Speaker 6: you've got the identity theft risk. And for all of
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: those reasons, as much as you may love your kids
• 55:31
  Speaker 6: and you really just want to be out there promoting
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: them and you know, proud of them, you really are
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: better off if you share as little as possible, or
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: frankly nothing online.
• 55:43
  Speaker 9: And that's just where we're at.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: That's where we're at. I appreciate my wife give me
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: an earful at one time, and I don't think I've
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: done it very many times since I saw he ever
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: appreciate it, and she is listening. She just texted me
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: and said yes, I'm listening. So there you have it,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Dave Had. We're going to continue another n talk Station
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: six thirty nine about KRCD talk station and a happy
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Friday to day tech part of it. Dave had our
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  Speaker 1: interest it dot com is where your company can find
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  Speaker 1: the best in the business to deal with your computer
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: related needs, and Dave will keep you out of trouble,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: maybe get you out of trouble if you landed in it.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Pivoting over. Kids do stupid things. I toarted trying to
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: remember back, Dave, if I was ever stupid enough to
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: do something like this another TikTok trend. Let's have it.
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  Speaker 6: Well, Brian, you know, I know you and I have
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: said this many times over the years we've been doing
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: this show. Thank God none of this stuff existed when
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: we were teenagers. I was a total idiot when I
• 56:39
  Speaker 6: was a teenager, and I cannot tell you how happy
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: I am that none.
• 56:41
  Speaker 9: Of this stuff existed.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Amen.
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: Now, I don't know, I don't know that I would
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: have done something like this, because it's actually kind of
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: mind numbing to me that someone would even think of
• 56:51
  Speaker 6: this and would them think, Hey, this would be a
• 56:53
  Speaker 6: funny prank. But the basic gist is and apparently this
• 56:57
  Speaker 6: has shown up a couple of times and the Brown
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: County Sheriff has learned about this, which is how I
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: first found out about it. In some other reporting that
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: kids are basically using generative AI tools, you know, think chat,
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: GPT or something like that, Sora vo three from Google,
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: that you know, a lot of these things CROC have
• 57:16
  Speaker 6: the capability not only to generate text, but generate audio
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: and or video and photos. And they're going in and
• 57:26
  Speaker 6: they're creating very realistic looking and I'm going to use
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: this term, I just call it an image rather than
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: a photo, because it's not a photo, and it's they're
• 57:33
  Speaker 6: just creating an image that looks like someone breaking into
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: a house. And then they call their parents and send
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: this photo on the phone, right and say someone's breaking in. Well,
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: of course, you know they think this is a funny prank. Now,
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: if you're a parent, what are you going to do
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: when your kids sends you a photo that appears to
• 57:52
  Speaker 6: be someone breaking into your house?
• 57:55
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: Of course you're going to panic, you know, are you
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: going to really scrutinize the photo? Go, well, I don't know,
• 58:01
  Speaker 6: maybe that looks like it could have been generated by AI.
• 58:04
  Speaker 6: I mean, first off, what parent would even think of that,
• 58:07
  Speaker 6: because it would not even occur to me that my
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: kid had done something like that. And then secondarily, again
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: you know, while I'm always trying to encourage people, don't
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: trust anything you see at this point, you know, look
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: for any sort of tell that it might be AI.
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: One of the things you'll often see, Brian, when someone
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: generates a video or an image using AI is things
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: will be a little off, especially like if there's a
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: logo on their shirt. If you look at it real carefully,
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: it will often just be some nonsensical mumbo jumbo. Well, again,
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: what parent is going to scrutinize the photo at that
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: level if they think their kid is under assault?
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: I guess so. It might depend upon the age of
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: the kid who sent this. But my immediate reaction, at
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: least when I heard this was someone's actively breaking in
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: the home, You took a picture of them, and you
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: didn't call the police. First I would go home and
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: if this actually happen, then after I dealt with the situation,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: made sure everybody's okay, metaphorically slap them across the face
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: for being an idiot in contacting me before they got
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: in touch with the authorities.
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you would hope that you would have
• 59:12
  Speaker 6: drilled into your kids all along. Yeah, don't forget your address, Johnny.
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: And you know, Susie, if you're home and there's an emergency,
• 59:22
  Speaker 6: don't call me first, dial nine one one. You know,
• 59:24
  Speaker 6: you'd hope those are the kind of conversations you'd be
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: having with their kids, your kids. But again, think of
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: the panic that's going to sweep over you if you
• 59:31
  Speaker 6: get something like that. Plus, how would you know that
• 59:35
  Speaker 6: they didn't call.
• 59:36
  Speaker 9: Nine one one already?
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: Well, of course the parents call nine one one. You know,
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: the police show up, you've wasted their resource. And I
• 59:43
  Speaker 6: would argue this is almost a form of swatting self swatting, Right.
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: Swatting is this idea that someone that doesn't like you,
• 59:51
  Speaker 6: for whatever reason, often for political reasons, calls the police
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: and claims there's a shooting going on at your address,
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: or domestic violence or whatever. You know, the police obviously
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: are obligated to respond to kicking the door. People have
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 6: been killed in these swanning incidents. You know, this is
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 6: almost like a form of self swanting. When your mom
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 6: calls nine to one to one, So it's you know,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 6: I think kids don't realize a the risk they're putting
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 6: themselves in by doing this, be the risk they're putting
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 6: society in, and the waste of resources, and see the
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 6: potential long term consequences to their reputation, you know. And
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 6: I'm not an attorney. It's probably going to depend on
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 6: the jurisdiction. But this is potentially a crime. So again,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 6: it's hard for me to imagine how any kid would
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: think that this would be a funny prank. But apparently
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 6: some have done this now, and you know, so the
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 6: warning is going out war your kids that hey, even
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: though you can and to me, Brian, this even goes
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: beyond just this incident. Yes, you can get on these
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: tools now and generate all kinds of things, things that
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: could potentially backfire horrifically on you and cause problems for
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: you well into your future. So I think the broader topic,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: in my mind is really have a talk with your
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 6: kids about these tools, how they should and should not
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: use them, and certainly not to use them in any
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: way that would potentially cause law enforcement related and legal
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: consequences for them and your family potentially again many years
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: into the future.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Well or emotional harm. You mentioned just photoshopping a naked
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: body onto it one of your classmates heads that could
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: be really really dangerous. I mean, someone could commit suicide
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: as a consequence of an image like that. So you
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: really need to have a heart to heart with them,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe get some illustrations like Dave brought up this morning,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: and walk through how something innocent could turn really really bad. So, yeah,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: that's a very helpful exercise for people to have with
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: their I guess younger people at home, Dave had or
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: I guess.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 9: Run real quick ups to this.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 6: Brian is in addition to us talking about it, you know,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 6: parents could go out there now and find examples of
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: this stuff in the press and go say, okay, Johnny,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 6: here's an example where some kid did this.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 9: Here's how it went wrong.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't do this exactly. Very very valuable communication, all right,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: coming up? Oh goodie, TransUnion data breach. We got that
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: to talk about with Dave had of what that might
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: mean for see the talk station six fifty fifty five
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: kre Cede talk dation. It's Friday. We're doing Tech Frida
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: with Dave Hatter Steve Gooden for Cincinnia City Council after
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: the top of the hour News and Robert Sprague, I'll
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: have a treasure running for Secretary of State. He'll be
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: on at seven thirty the mean time. Back to Dave Hatter, Dave,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: let me ask you the initial question before we dive
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: on into Transunion's breach the credit companies. I have had
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: my credit frozen at least I think now for years
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: and years because of stuff like this, these breaches. So
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: my credit is frozen. Will it stay frozen until I
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: unfreeze it? Or is that something I have to go
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: back and refreeze from time to toime. I just want
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: to get that initial question out of the way.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 6: Well, that's the smart play, and that's going to be
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 6: one of my pieces of advice byan and everyone should
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 6: go freeze their credit. And then when I put the
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 6: the show notes out there from today, I'll add a
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 6: link to how the easy way to do that. And
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 6: it's not that easy, but as far as I know, Brian,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 6: as far as I know, on all three credit bureaus,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 6: once you freeze it, it will stay frozen until you
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 6: go in and unfreeze it.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's what I thought.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 6: That that's my current understanding. Now keep in mind, you
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: have three different credit bureaus. Each one is a separate business.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 6: You know, each one of them could change how this
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 6: works at any given time. But as far as I
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 6: know and I have, I have done the same thing
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 6: as you. I keep my credit locked until such time
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: as I would want to apply for a loan or something,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: and then go in temporarily unlock it. On most of
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 6: these things, you can basically say I want to unlock
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 6: it for three days or something, and it'll go back again.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: Though you have to figure this out for each one
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: of these things on your own, and it could change
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: at any time. The last time I did it, I
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: was able to do that. But the bottom line is
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: these three companies have an enormous amount of information about
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 6: you because the nature of what they do right and
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 6: you know, if you think about it, your credit score,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: especially if you were someone that isn't independently wealthy and
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 6: doesn't ever need a loan, is important for you. It's
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 6: also sometimes used, you know, as an evaluation of whether
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: you're going to be a good employer or whatever. So
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: I would encourage people to go check that occasionally, you know,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 6: look at your credit work, get your free credit report
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: once a year, see what's on it, challenge those kind
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 6: of things. But the real meat of this is really twofold.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 6: So Transcenion has reported a breach. Apparently four point four
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 6: million customers had information stolen. When you hear the term
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: breach in this context, basically your information has been stolen.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 6: And I'm going to do a presentation later today I
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: do on cybersecurity. I do a lot of these things,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 6: and I always ask in trying to make the point
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 6: everything is digital, everything is online. Why you should care
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 6: about this? Who in the crowd has not has not
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 6: gotten a letter telling them their their information has been breached?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 6: And I tell you, Brian, it's been years and it's
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 6: sometimes hundreds of people where there hasn't been a single
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 6: hand go up. Everyone has had their data stolen, Everyone's
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 6: gotten this letter.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 6: So this is an interesting angle though, because again, if
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 6: you think about the information that could be accessed to
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 6: a credit bureau, it's practically everything about you. In this
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 6: particular case, what they're reporting so far is TransUnion itself
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 6: was not breached. This was an example of what I
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 6: would what's what's called in the business third party risk.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 6: They're using a third party system to store data. In
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 6: this case, apparently Salesforce dot com. A lot of people
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 6: use that. It's a well known CRM, and apparently other
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: companies had their data recently stolen through Salesforce as well.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: Now Salesforce, of course, is saying their platform has not
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 6: been compromised. This is, you know, probably a bad password,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 6: no MFA kind of situation, kind of like the Snowflake
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 6: reach a few years ago, like where at and T
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 6: was a company amongst many they had data stolen. But
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 6: the bottom line here is TransUnion claims that they were
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 6: not breached. They claim that the very sensitive information wasn't stolen,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 6: that they were essentially using this as a customer relationship
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 6: management tool, so phone numbers, things like that.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: Also in the same story, they say several companies have
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 6: already been caught in a wave of Salesforce linked attacks,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: including Google, Farmers, Insurance, Alliance Life, Workday, Pandora, Cisco Channel
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 6: and others, or Chanel and others. Rather, so I'm trying
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 6: to make two points here. When you use third party platforms,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: who does it?
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 10: Now?
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 6: Wright More and more companies are using the cloud quote
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: unquote third party platforms rather than having their own servers
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 6: and their own software installed on these things. You have
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 6: to make sure you're securing your accounts there so this
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 6: doesn't happen. But back to the meat of this story.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 6: If you get a letter from TransUnion telling you your
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 6: data has been breached, could become any day now, you
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: should take that seriously. And I also want to point out, Brian,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: when you see these kind of things, it is super
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 6: critical for folks go freeze your credit, keep an eye
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: on your accounts, be even more skeptical than usual. But
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 6: if you get an email or a text or a
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 6: phone call reporting to be from TransUnion, how would they
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 6: make a phone call to you the bad guys?
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 9: Well, now they have all your information.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 6: You can get a call and email a text for
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: reporting to be TransUnion claiming to be reaching out to
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 6: you about this breach.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Right, Well, I'd be skeptical about that call because TransUnion
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: has our information for literally hundreds of millions of people,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: right I mean exactly, They're gonna call you. They picked
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: you out of everyone. Basically, My point is these.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 6: Are professional con artists. They have your information. They could
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 6: reach out to you via email, text, or phone call
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 6: claiming to be from TransUnion having interesting information that would
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 6: lead you to believe they are from TransUnion. Scammers will
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 6: scam using the breach and telling you because you have
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 6: been breached, you need to do X, Y or Z.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: So my bigger piece of advice other than to freeze
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 6: your credit and be skeptical, is if TransUnion quote unquote
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 6: reaches out to you in any form other than a
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 6: written letter, you should be extremely skeptical of that. Don't
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 6: click the links, don't talk to the person, don't call
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 6: the phone numbers they supply go to Transunions, Transunion's website,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: or there's a number here you can check by calling
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: the TransUnion Fraud Victim Assistance Department at eight hundred and six'
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 6: eight oh seven to eight. Nine my point is assume
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 6: anything that you get other than a letter in the
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: mail is potentially. Fraudulent you go To TransUnion dot, com
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: you look up a number from their, website you initiate those.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: Transactions if you have A TransUnion, account because you have
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 6: locked your credit and frozen your, credit you, know make
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 6: sure you have multi factor authentication turned, on make sure
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 6: you have a strong anque password on, that and you,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 6: know sadly there's really nothing if you get the letter
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 6: and they offer the credit.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 9: Monitoring turn that.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: On, Yeah i'm just going to ask. You it's a
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: good thing to have the credit. MONITORING i have, LifeLock
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: i have for, years AND i really don't pay much
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: attention to. It they do alert you if there's something
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: like The TransUnion, breach but fortunately for, me there's been
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: no other.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 6: Breaches so, yeah they alert, you and they have attorneys
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 6: and experts that can help you if you're a dint
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 6: stolen because a lot of people, say, well what can
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 6: what can.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 9: They do THAT i can't?
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 6: Do, well they can monitor at, scale which you probably
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 6: can't even if you're a, discipline and they have experts
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 6: that will help you unwind this stuff.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: And afford to pay the legal bills because you do
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: have a fairly sizable legal coverage protection with something like.
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  Speaker 5: Brian thank you from.
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  Speaker 1: Law firm Reporter. Rides steve always helps us analyze legal
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: cases that affect local communities even. Nationally it's a brilliant
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  Speaker 1: insight he always. Provides he's also previously on city. Council
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  Speaker 1: we have a record we can attribute To Steve. GOODEN
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  Speaker 1: i think he did a fantastic job and he was
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: there running for council. Again let us start with the
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  Speaker 1: debate last. NIGHT i understand you at least caught some
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: of the debate Between pervoll And Corey. Bowman what's your
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  Speaker 1: reaction and what do you?
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  Speaker 10: Think, well it's more of the same stuff from the.
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  Speaker 10: Mayor you, know we you know are you? Know i've
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  Speaker 10: been feeling it. TOO i mean they had a meeting
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 10: that about two weeks ago between the mayor and the
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  Speaker 10: other council, candidates which leaked immediately where he told, them,
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  Speaker 10: look you just have to call everyone who is AGAINST
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  Speaker 10: Us republican Or Democrats, maga, maga, maga because apparently they've
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  Speaker 10: done some polling that showed, one you, know that a
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  Speaker 10: lot of the council candidates at least are in trouble are,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 10: incumbents and number two that his numbers apparently aren't so.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 10: Great so rather than deal with his, performance he wants
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 10: to make everything about national issues and deflect everything to
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  Speaker 10: The trump, administration which is still pretty unpopular within the.
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  Speaker 10: City and you could see that playbook absolutely and pretty
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 10: much everything he. Said rather than acknowledge at all the
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  Speaker 10: fact that we have a massive spiking crime in our populous,
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  Speaker 10: neighborhoods rather than even discuss the fact that we had
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  Speaker 10: a shooting right outside Of Fountain square at five o'clock
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  Speaker 10: on a, weekday the people are getting out of their
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  Speaker 10: getting into their cars to go home from their, offices
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  Speaker 10: where people were just absolutely. Horrified it was right by my,
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  Speaker 10: office by the, way the two idiots getting into an
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 10: argument and both pulling guns and shooting each other there
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 10: On Vine. Street you, know that's rather than acknowledge any
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 10: of those, things all he wanted to do was, say
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 10: talk about the evils Of Donald trump and implying that
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 10: people are being kidnapped by ice throughout the city and fear.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 10: Mongering so it was really disgusting AND i, think you,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 10: Know bowman hit back against that the best he. Could
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 10: but the plan there was to absolutely gaslight the audience
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 10: and anyone who's watching this and make them think that
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 10: the city's perfectly fine but for the fact that we
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 10: have a terrible administration In, washington d. C and that
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 10: he's going to stand up and fired for. You so
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 10: it was more of the same garbage that we've been
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 10: seeing in the last few, weeks but also a real
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 10: sign that they feel like that their grip on City
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  Speaker 10: hall is.
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  Speaker 1: Slipping well you see through. IT i, mean the idea
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  Speaker 1: that The trump, administration what they're, doing has an impact
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  Speaker 1: on the city Of, CINCINNATI i suppose to even suggest
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: that and make that argument is to believe that your
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: audience is filled with idiots who believe that there is some.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Connection that's, insulting but.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 10: Well it's extraordinarily insulting and from the people that we're
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 10: talking to out in the, community it's not. Working it's
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 10: not even. Working you, know with the lot of the
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 10: really Progressive democrats out in the city that we. ENCOUNTER i, mean,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 10: look the only reason The Lord cincinnati may pass through
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 10: from slips is because of the fact that the crime
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  Speaker 10: here has become so. BAD i, mean that's the. Issue
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 10: i'm not one of these people that thinks The National
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  Speaker 10: guards should be deployed over street. CRIME i think that's
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  Speaker 10: an absolute last, resort you, know and and and that
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 10: is you, know there's constitutional issues there as, well saying
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 10: that it's from a kind of constitutional conservative. Standpoint but
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 10: all that being, SAID i mean the issue is crime.
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  Speaker 10: PERIOD i mean public. Safety that's we need more police.
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  Speaker 10: Officers we're two hundred short of a compliment that was
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  Speaker 10: set all the way back in two thousand and five
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 10: when we had a very very different. City we need
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  Speaker 10: to we may need up to four hundred more police
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  Speaker 10: officers if we're going to seriously police a city and
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 10: actually have beat, patrols he, said which we know are
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 10: the best way to combat. Crime, so, uh it's all
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 10: just other incomplete. Nonsense it is a complete, deflection and
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 10: it's what they've been doing all. SUMMER i, mean, look
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 10: it's it's you, know we had a terrible. Summer the
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 10: city is more violent than it has been a long.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 10: Time it's a tougher place to, work and it's more,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 10: divided and it's more divided one hundred percent because of
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 10: the mayor and the people he's got working for. HIM i, mean,
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  Speaker 10: look you, KNOW i know we were going to talk
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  Speaker 10: About Irish rollie as, well but he has a police
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  Speaker 10: critic on his. STAFF i mean that works some reports
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 10: to the city manager into, him who is openly critical
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 10: of the. Police because of her, job she's supposed to
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 10: be some sort of a. Consultant BUT i mean this
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  Speaker 10: results in a total demoralization of the police force that's already.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 10: Understaffed we see the results every. Day this has nothing
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  Speaker 10: to do With Donald.
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  Speaker 1: Trump clearly has nothing to do With Donald. Trump and
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: he tried to, deflect and we talked about this With
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: Christopher smiman earlier this. Morning deflect blame basically On John.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: Cranley he's been mayor for four years, Now when is
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: he going to take credit and or take responsibility rather
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: for the issues that are plaguing in the city Of.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: CINCINNATI i, mean that's kind Of that retreat was REALLY
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: i think childish or shallow and. Hollow he's got a
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: lot of time to improve the. SITUATION i, mean how
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: how many lane miles HAS aft had provol improved since
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: he's been. Mayor we're behind four hundred million dollars in. Infrastructure,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: OH i, go, well you, KNOW i.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 10: Mean if we would get get into. That but we
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 10: now know that they have. Money this came out last
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  Speaker 10: week AND i think The Business courier that they have
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 10: almost twenty million dollars that they could have spent on
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 10: on pothole repair that they just haven't bothered to get
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  Speaker 10: around to.
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  Speaker 5: SPENDING i, mean it's it's.
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  Speaker 10: Really just incompetence upon incompetence down. There and look at.
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  Speaker 10: Me you, KNOW i was at a debate On monday
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  Speaker 10: night and out lookout what the council, group and of
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 10: course that that's you, know what they've been instructed to
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 10: say about. Us they, said we're cleaning up the mess
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 10: of the prior council Of John, cranley the prior. Council
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  Speaker 10: but it's been you, know it's been four years and
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 10: actually the roads were getting paved four. YEARS i, mean you,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 10: know we did say what you want About John. Cranley
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 10: but the, police the police department was better. Staffed it
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 10: wasn't fully, staffed but it was better. Staffed they got,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 10: raises morale was. Good THE fop engaged with and ultimately
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 10: endorsed the. Mayor right, now they gave it no confidence
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 10: vote TO aft. Have, yeah but at the, time you,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 10: Know cradley worked with them very, well and we had
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 10: a working majority on council that involved me And Christopher
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 10: smitherman And Liz keating and we all listened to the
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 10: police officers needs and tried to tried to take care
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 10: of what the neighborhood, wanted what they, want what the officers.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 10: Need so we did exactly what we were supposed to
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 10: do at the best we could within the budget. Constraints,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 10: Anyway so it's a totally different scene, here and it
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  Speaker 10: is a absolutely, intentional uh and really disgusting and divisive.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 10: Thing this group is, dowing not JUST aft to have
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 10: with the council, candidates to deflect On trump and on
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  Speaker 10: now on to prior council members and. Mayors they've had
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 10: four years and they have absolutely wrecked the.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: City, well a QUESTION i Asked christopher earlier in the,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: PROGRAM i want to gauge your. Reaction you, know he's
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: out and about you're going out and about you're doing town,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: halls your door. KNOCKING i, mean you're familiar with what's going.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: On what is the enthusiasm level right? Now considering the
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  Speaker 1: city Of cincinnati is really low on turnout with, voters
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  Speaker 1: what was, it ten? Percent fifteen percent of the folks showed,
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  Speaker 1: up and those are usually going to, be from my,
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  Speaker 1: perception filled with a lot of THOSE ngo, folks those
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: community activists that are getting cash contributions from from The
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: city Of. Cincinnati they're really good about going out and
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: helping those elected officials that help. Them in other, words you,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: know one hand washes the. Other we know how politics.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: Works but so is there enthusiasm among the Regular cincinnati
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: voters FOR aftab provoll or do you suspect that we're
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: going to have another low voter turnout considering the city
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: is pretty much one hundred percent. BLUE i know it's
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  Speaker 1: not but Overwhelmingly.
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  Speaker 10: Democrat, well you, know we're almost a week into early,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 10: voting AND i can tell you what the numbers, show
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  Speaker 10: and they actually show both not just an lack of
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  Speaker 10: enthusiasm FOR, aftab but timpathy FOR i HAVE. Tab but
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 10: we also see that it's going to be a pretty
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 10: low turnout election unless things change right. Away and from
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  Speaker 10: the early vote in person and plus the mail and vote,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 10: requests it looks like it's down about thirty percent Among,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 10: democrats it's down a little less among non affiliated And.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 10: Republicans it's only down about two percent Among. Republicans so
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 10: what it tells me is there's a lot of just
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 10: discussed among The democratic base about what's going on. There
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 10: they may not be moving to, bowmen but they're going
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 10: to vote with their feet and stay, home and that
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 10: opens up a lot of opportunity for other. Candidates and
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 10: it also means that the total number of votes that
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 10: you might need to win if you're someone say like
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 10: A charter right or A, republican that vote number is
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 10: going to go down because it's the best of nine
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 10: and with people staying. Home what we also do know
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 10: is that a lot of independent voters who still make
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 10: up the majority of the, city they tend to Vote,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 10: democratic like not really truly affiliated with the party or activists.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 10: There those folks have shown the least to drop. Off
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  Speaker 10: so we know that that that big mass of independent,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 10: voters which can be as much as forty percent in
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 10: the city. Election but they're still coming, out AND i
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 10: don't think they're coming out because they're happy WITH. Aftab
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 10: and also to your point about the, ACTIVISTS i think
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 10: that's the really kind of disgusting thing that's happened over
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 10: the last to several decades at City. HALL i, mean
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 10: we you, know famously got rid of patronage when we
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 10: passed our churner in the nineteen. Twenties but now we
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 10: have a new patronage where you, know the mayor and
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 10: the administration and so forth canned out a lot of
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 10: dollars in a lot of bogus contracts to nonprofit agencies
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 10: and agencies that are just created, to you, know really
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 10: to suck up the money that we know are involved
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 10: in election hearing come, elect you, know come every two.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 10: Years so you, know that's a lot of the game
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 10: that The democrats and council have, played which is using
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 10: nonprofits who then turn around and help them in the.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 10: Election and it's really disgusting and it's really outside the.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 10: Charter and really these independent contractors and nonprofits kind of
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 10: fall outside of all the city and state ethics. Laws
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 10: they can do as they. Please and it's an open
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 10: secret here in. Town but this year it doesn't seem
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 10: to be taking because you cannot convince the average. PERSON
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 10: i don't care what neighborhood they're, in AND i don't
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 10: care what their race. Is what we're hearing across the
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 10: board is discussed with the situation where public safety discussed
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 10: about the. Crime everyone knows we don't have enough police,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 10: officers and no matter how much they say that isn't the.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 10: Case the lived experience of people in the neighborhood belies.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 10: That AND i just don't think it's working this.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: Year that sounds like an opportunity for otherwise Like, Republicans,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: independence maybe some of the Sane democrats maybe change the
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: tide in the city Of. Cincinnati your vote really truly
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: does matter. More With Steve, gooden we're going to find
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: out about This irish. Rolling a little bit of a
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: going on between you, Two. Steve we'll talk about that
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: in just a minute seven to. Seventeen right now fifty
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  Speaker 1: Online go To votegoden dot. Com there's a little donate.
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  Speaker 1: Button i'm. There i'm sure you'd appreciate a campaign, contribution
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: maybe getting the yard. Sign he's running For Cincinnai City
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: council and demonstrably, intelligent good guy with some great ideas
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: for the, city running as a charter, right and that's
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: a okay with, Me steve Good and pivoting over to
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: your latest row With Iris, rowley there was being intentionally.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 10: On that.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: One so what is the? City obviously community active, issues
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: part of The Black Lives, matter AND i guess she's
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: a defund police. Type she's been interfering with police officers
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: trying to do their duty and deal with crime and
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: problems in Downtown. Cincinnati so we know about. Her what
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: do you how'd you get in a mix with her? Online,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: well you, know, yeah.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 10: It's kind of. Crazy she she And Reverend David lynch
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 10: kind of unleashed their online followers on me this week
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 10: to the point where we where we where we actually
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 10: had to have the police check out some of the
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 10: MESSAGES i was getting from them that were threatening and just.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 10: Bizarre you, know hundreds of people piling on at her
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 10: urging and what's really wild here is she is a
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 10: long time community, activist was deeply involved in The Collaborative
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 10: agreement back in the early two, thousands and back then
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 10: you actually did some work that that a lot of,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 10: people including police, officers actually came around to see what was.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 10: Positive but you, know as they always, say you, know
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 10: in these, stories you, know you start out as a,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 10: hero but if you stayed in the stage too, long
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 10: you end up as the. Villain and that's kind of
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 10: where we are. Now she is a paid consultant to the,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 10: administration reporting to the city manager and TO aftab to
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 10: help allegedly help with The Police Collaborative agreement and police community.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 10: Relations but what's really happened is she has she makes
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 10: hundreds of thousands of dollars that she funnels in part
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 10: to her, son who is her sole employee of her small,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 10: company and no one really knows exactly what they do all.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 5: Day there's no.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 10: Metrics and we do know that she is openly critical
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 10: to police and that there's at least one video that
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 10: an officer has of her interfering with someone trying to
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 10: cite someone for a. Misdemeanor so she's a, big big
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 10: flash point in police community relations both. Ways but her
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 10: real job is to go out there and whip up
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 10: support in the black church community for the. Mayor and
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 10: that's what she's doing. Now if she were an actual city,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 10: employee she would have civil service rules imposed upon her
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 10: where she couldn't engage in electioneering and. Campaigning but there's
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 10: a loophole here for these paid, consultants so she makes
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 10: more than city, employees actually interferes with police, business and
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 10: then goes out in campaigns and tries to whip not
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 10: just whip up support for the, mayor but attack other.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 10: Candidates had the temerity to call that out on a
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 10: couple of different radio programs and on A tv interview
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 10: into the improprieties around her, contract and she came at
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 10: me all. Weekend, Uh and you, know some of, it
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 10: some of it was kind of. Funny one guy keeps
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 10: referring to. Me one of her followers keeps referring to
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 10: me as, quote a mediocre, douchebag WHICH i THOUGHT i
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 10: was at least an extraordinary dude, bag and bring. Disappointed
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 10: we call a mediocre. One and most of it's just
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 10: the kind of stuff you shrug. Off but the organized
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 10: nature of. IT a paid city consultant is the part
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 10: of the part that should it should disturb, people, ye
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 10: which is AND i don't think it's very. Effective we're
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 10: not losing any, sleep AND i frankly didn't THINK i
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 10: was getting any votes From irish only, anyway And i'm
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 10: just fine with. That but my, POINT i guess my
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 10: point of view is it's yet one more gigantic ethical
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 10: lapse from this. Administration it's the kind of thing that's
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 10: going on in broad daylight that everyone should just be disgusted.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 10: By she is getting the tax dollars for a contract
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 10: to do god knows what during the, day but we
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 10: know and see that the real purpose of it is
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 10: for her to go out there attack the mayor's opponents
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 10: and whip.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: Up, support you, know for his.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 10: Agenda and they're using tax dollars to do. It and
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 10: that's just.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: Wrong it is fundamentally. Wrong Steve gooden, again votegodin dot.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: Com wish you all the, Best, steve AND i presume
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: you And i'll be talking before the. Election keep up
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  Speaker 1: the great work And i'll look forward to talking with
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  Speaker 1: you again real. Soon thanks for your time this, morning, Anytime.
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  Speaker 1: Bran thank you all, Right take care, brother have a great.
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  Speaker 1: Weekend on top of, That ohio Treasure Robert spragg run
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  Speaker 1: For secretary Of. State he is going to be give
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  Speaker 1: us the latest on here For secretary Of. State welcome
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: back to the fifty Five Krssey Morning, Show Robert. Sprague
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  Speaker 1: it's the pleasure to have you on this.
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  Speaker 11: Morning Thanks, brian and with, you it's.
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  Speaker 1: Pleasure sprague For, ohio s P R a G U
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  Speaker 1: e For, ohio the word for not the number For
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  Speaker 1: ohio dot com where you can Find Robert spegg's. Website
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  Speaker 1: i'm sure you'd appreciate. It cam pagn. Contribution let us
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: start off a treasure spread on your campaign For secretary Of.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: State what's your motivation for running and how's the campaign
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  Speaker 1: going so?
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  Speaker 5: Far?
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  Speaker 11: WELL i, Think, brian that the cost of our freedom
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 11: is eternal, vigilance and the threats are constantly. Evolving our
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 11: enemies certainly would love to be able to control our,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 11: elections at the very least be able to influence. Them
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 11: and as your Next secretary Of, state IT i want
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 11: to make sure that our elections are secure AND i
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 11: also want to make sure that they're, fair AND i
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 11: have a plan to make sure that our elections are
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 11: both of those.
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  Speaker 1: Well what would you think as it currently, stands what
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: is wrong with the current process in what way will
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: you fix it when you are elected to Be secretary Of.
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  Speaker 11: State, Well i'll tell you we do a very good
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 11: job with elections in the state Of. Ohio but there
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 11: are a few things THAT i would make sure that
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 11: we are able to evolve and make sure that we
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 11: build upon the successes that we're already having and make
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 11: our election system even. More for one, THING i would
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  Speaker 11: make sure that we have a front and citizenship check
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 11: to make sure that there are Only americans voting In ohio.
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  Speaker 11: Elections you, know this idea of citizens being able to
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 11: vote in their, government having a social contract with their
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 11: government is so important to our constitutional. Republic and as
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 11: a matter of, fact our Current secretary Of, State Frank,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 11: LeRose who's done a very good, job he led the
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  Speaker 11: effort in twenty twenty two to make sure that Our
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 11: constitution was amended to say that Only american citizens can
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  Speaker 11: vote In ohio elections in a passed with seventy seven
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  Speaker 11: percent of the. Vote so that's the first THING i
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  Speaker 11: would do Is i'd move to a front end citizenship.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 11: Check and we can do that if we work with
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  Speaker 11: the federal government and The trump administration make sure that
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 11: we have access to those.
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  Speaker 5: Databases and that's so.
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  Speaker 1: FINE i saw this recent, article AND i don't know
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  Speaker 1: If ohio Uses dominion voting. SYSTEMS a lot of red
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  Speaker 1: flags way about this big. COMPANY i guess more than
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: twenty states Used. Dominion it just got bought out by
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: A missouri tech, entrepreneur Former republican director Of Saint Louis
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: City board Of, elections a guy Named Scott, liendecker and
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: he announced this the other. Day as of, Today dominion is.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: Gone Liberty vote assumes full ownership and operational. Control he's
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: a pro paper ballot kind of. Guy so does that
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  Speaker 1: transfer Of dominion ownership mean anything To? Ohio do we Use?
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: Dominion and this suggests made me a movement in the right.
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  Speaker 1: DIRECTION a lot of people are still hankering to get
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  Speaker 1: their paper ballots back because they have no faith in basically.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: Electronics AND i understand.
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  Speaker 11: THAT i do, too AND i think that no matter
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 11: who owns the voting, machines at the end of the,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 11: day you've got to be careful that they're not. Compromised
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 11: and so that's why the second THING i would do
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  Speaker 11: as your Next secretary Of, STATUS i would make sure
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  Speaker 11: that we move to all paper ballots in every county
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  Speaker 11: in every election that we have in the state Of.
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  Speaker 11: Ohio AND i used to work At ernst And young
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  Speaker 11: WHEN i Grant soon WHEN i first graduated from. College
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  Speaker 11: and what they will tell you is that the paper
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  Speaker 11: ballot gives you a beautiful audit. Trail you can always
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  Speaker 11: go back and you can count the. Paper and as
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  Speaker 11: a matter of, fact that's the requirement of The Ohio,
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  Speaker 11: constitution is that we vote by, ballot which is a
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  Speaker 11: secret piece of, paper and being able to check on
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  Speaker 11: the paper and tabulate the paper gives you a check
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  Speaker 11: on the. Machines the paper is never. Wrong and SO
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  Speaker 11: i want to move to all paper ballots in the
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  Speaker 11: state Of. Ohio sixty percent of the counties are already.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 11: There that's the way they. Vote you have a separate
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  Speaker 11: piece of, paper you can see who you voted, for
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  Speaker 11: and then you submit it in the ballot box and
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 11: then it's. Tabulated it's the best way for us to
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  Speaker 11: vote in the state Of.
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  Speaker 1: Ohio scored some points in my listening audience for that, One,
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  Speaker 1: sir appreciate that got to have a paper trail all,
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  Speaker 1: right pivoting over in your role as At, treasure what
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  Speaker 1: is The Buckeye Loan? PROGRAM i saw this just announce
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: that you just launched.
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  Speaker 11: This this is a fabulous new. Program we want to
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  Speaker 11: bring production back to the state Of. Ohio we want
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 11: to bring jobs back to the state Of. Ohio manufacturing
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  Speaker 11: has always been the backbone of our, state and so
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 11: we're starting there with our brand New Buckeye Business. Advantage
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  Speaker 11: if you're a listener right now and you happen to
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 11: have a small company under one hundred and fifty, employees
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 11: you will qualify if you want to expand your balance,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 11: sheet if you can take out with the financial, institution
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 11: your local financial, institution you can take out up to
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 11: a million dollar loan to expand your. Business it could
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 11: be working. Capital this is flexible. Capital it could be
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 11: it could be you expanding your, plant it could be
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 11: putting in that new product. Line and we will reduce
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  Speaker 11: the interest rate on that million dollar loan by up
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 11: to three percent for up to two years for. You
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  Speaker 11: and that's the big deal because, look all the federal
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 11: news is about the lowering of interest. Rates, Correct, yeah
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 11: and here we are lowering interest rates with the state
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 11: twenty five billion dollar balance sheet by three hundred basis
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 11: points three, percent front running The. Fed THE fed just
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 11: lowered by zero point two five percent or twenty five basis.
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  Speaker 11: Points so this is a way that we can put
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  Speaker 11: our balance sheet to. Work, well the first thing we're
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 11: doing is we're focusing on manufacturing because that's our bread
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 11: and butter as a. State october is manufacturing. Month and
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 11: then we anticipate coming out with some other focuses on small.
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  Speaker 11: Businesses but this is a great thing to help our
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 11: state bring back, jobs bring back, production bring back and know.
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  Speaker 11: How AND i think that this is going to be
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 11: a big help to a lot of these small.
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  Speaker 1: Businesses, well and you're still getting points on the loan.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: Too it's not like you're giving it away for. Free
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: they have to pay. Back it's just a lesser loan
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: rate THAT i, mean that's a that's a great incentive
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: for folks to go out and borrow the money because
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: million dollars borrowed at what current bank, rates that's a
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: sizeable difference over a three point.
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  Speaker 11: Drop, yeah three point drop was actually real money for
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 11: a lot of these small, businesses and it could be
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 11: the difference between them being able to expand or not.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 11: Right AND i love what you, Said, brian because it's
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 11: not as if we're stepping in as the government and
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 11: giving a. Grant it's actually the private market capitalism at.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 11: Work you've got to get the loan from a private.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 11: Institution but we'll do our parts in the back office
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 11: plumbing of lowering the interest.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: RATE i think that's an important. Component that you're still
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: working with a bank who does due diligence and evaluates
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: the nature of your business and your credit. Worthiness so
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: the bank is actually doing the laboring or of work
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: for the. State the states is backing it up with
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: its own financial. RESOURCES i think this sounds like an excellent, idea.
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  Speaker 11: And there's no risk at The treasure's. OFFICE i, mean,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 11: ultimately the bank or the financial institution has to underwrite THAT,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 11: novem in other, words back it up with their own,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 11: money so there's no risk to. Us so this is
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 11: a win win for, everybody and we hope that it'll
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 11: help small businesses expand and help our state grow.
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  Speaker 1: Economically all, RIGHT i will acknowledge my ignorance on the entire.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: TOPIC i regularly refer to cryptocurrency as like the peace Of,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: god it passes all human, understanding while at least, acknowledge
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: it Passes Brian thomas's. Understanding, listen MY mensa membership is
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: worthless when it comes to stuff like. This it doesn't mean,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: anything and it never. Has but what's the story on
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: the state Of ohio accepting crypto in connection with certain. Transactions,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: well i'll tell you.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 11: What we decided that The Treasure's, office we could either
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 11: follow everybody, else all these other states that are being
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 11: able to accept cryptocurrency as, payment or we could. Lead
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 11: and there are a few states out there that are
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 11: doing it. Already but we have decided that if we,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 11: lead we get to determine the, process we get to
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 11: make it, secure and so we've decided that we are
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 11: going to launch a brand new crypto payment. Platform the
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 11: future is this digital. Currency everybody's going to want to
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 11: pay with their phone With, apple pay With, PayPal with stable,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 11: coin with, bitcoin with, ethereum and pretty, SOON i think
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 11: what you're going to see is it's not just people
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 11: that are going to want to pay with these digital.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 11: Currencies it is also corporations because it is instantaneous and
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 11: in many ways it's cheaper and it's more. Secure so
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 11: there are some valuable reasons to do. It we're going
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 11: to do it the right. Way we are going to
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 11: develop a cryptocurrency payment platform for the entire. State that,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 11: way you can pay in cryptocurrency if you, will if
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 11: you want, to and we are immediately it's going to
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 11: happen actually outside The treasure's, office but we are going
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 11: to immediately make sure that it's transferred and transformed INTO us,
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 11: dollars and so we will only HOLD us. Dollars we
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 11: will not be holding, cryptocurrency but it will facilitate the.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 11: Payment and by the, way the state is not paying
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 11: that user. Fee the user is paying a user fee
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 11: to be able to use that new. Product we think
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 11: that we are going to have the best and the
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 11: safest product in The United states Of. America we just
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 11: went through THE rfp process and The board Of deposit
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 11: approved it, unanimously and we're looking forward to getting that
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 11: up and.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: Running and, BRIEFLY i don't want to hold you up
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: BECAUSE i know we only have you this one. Segment
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: Sir robert spa treasurer or running for a secretary of,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: state how do, you, again going back to my ignorance
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: on the, topic how do you deal with the volatility at.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: CRYPTO i, mean one day bitcoin's trading for twenty thousand,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: dollars the next thing is trading for thirty thousand, dollars
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: and it's back to. FIFTEEN i Know i'm overstating the
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: volatility of, it and trust, ME i have no faith
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: in the fiat. Currency but The american dollar does not
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: struggle with that level of volatility on a day to day.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: BASIS i guess if i got one hundred dollars bill
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: And i'm paying with, crypto crypto is worth x amount
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: one day and maybe less than next, tomorrow how does
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: that translate into something that you can use or real Briefly, roberts.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 11: That's a great, Question, brian and just real Briefly. Bitcoin
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 11: because there's a limited amount of, it which is what
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 11: makes it, valuable it goes up and, down huge volatility every.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 11: Day you could pay in, bitcoin and the, transaction obviously,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 11: digitally is almost, instantaneous and SO i guess that's how
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 11: you deal with the. Volatility but there's also stable, coin
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 11: and stable coin is a digital, coin but it's basically
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 11: a money market. Account it's a share in a money market,
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 11: account and so it's backed up for every stable, coin
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 11: it's backed up by A United states dollar and then
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 11: that dollar is in the money market. Account it's invested
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 11: In United States treasury short term, treasury so it basically
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 11: operates just like a money market. Account and those stable
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 11: coins are pegged one to one to The United states.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 11: Dollar so you can see now the difference between the
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 11: bitcoin and the stable, coin and you can see where
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 11: corporations with you, know maybe one of transact more and
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 11: more transactions in the stable coin type of a digital,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 11: currency which will be, instantaneous. Safer and the other advantage
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 11: from like the treasure's office standpoint that people don't think.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 11: About when you write a check to The treasure's, office
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 11: it does not cost you, anything but it costs the
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 11: treasure in the state Of ohio a lot because those
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 11: checks are pieces of paper and it cost us actually
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 11: a great deal to process all that.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: Paper Understand so there definitely.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 11: Are advantages of moving into digital currency, direction but we
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 11: have to be very. Careful we're being, cautious we're being.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: PRODED i appreciate the prudence and the caution if we
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: enter into the great. Unknown robert spraggu he's running For
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: secretary Of state he's currently our treasure help him out
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: on his. Campaign sprague For ohio Dot. Com Roberts, BRAGG
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: i appreciate your willingness to come on The Morning show
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: over the, years AND i wish you the best in the,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: future AND i look forward to having you Ash House
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: secretary Of state and further conversations down the, road. Sir
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: it's conversing editor in CHIEF Jahih Press, Network Jack windsor
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: returns talk about the, wines what he refers to his
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: war on, hemp And i'm kind of puzzled over that.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: ONE i know he came out with some pronouncements regarding
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: hemp products the other. Day we'll see if that transcends
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: the law on the state of the, land which, is you,
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: know we're allowed to apparently grow hemp at zero point
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: three PERCENT thchc and. Lower, anyway cites his property tax.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: Plan what's in? It what does it mean and what
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: did they come up? With so we'll get that explanation
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: From jack after the top of the. Hour then at
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: the bottom of the Ur Corey bowman on the debate last.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: Night he'll join us at a. Thirty thank You Joe
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: streker for making me crack up every TIME i look
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: at the, rundown because he didn't Put Corey bowman. Down
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: he Put Jade vance's half brother. Down because that seems
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: to be the way the Enquire another local media tends
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: to refer to him as he has a, name it
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: Is Corey. Bowman let's see What bobby's got this. Morning,
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: Bobby welcome to The Morning. Show Happy, friday my.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: BROTHER i like to make a comment about the debate
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: IF i can absolutely all some. WELL i saw some
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: people THAT i. RECOGNIZE i was in the audience and,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: stuff and they're the new cast members of the sitcom
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: that there will be producing In. CINCINNATI i don't know
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: if it's out yet or, not but it's Called The.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: Grifters you talk about the members of the non governmental
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: organization of those who are influenced by very various paid
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: for non governmental organizations Using city Of cincinna taxpayer dollars
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: for political. Purposes is that what you're referring?
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 11: To, hello.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: And the next one we got we went ahead to
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: sit a shooting handicap For polkopolis at five and a
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: half for the. Weekend is that what it?
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: Is, okay, well be a. Shooting i'll be thinking of you, Today,
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: bobby going to head out to the range with my
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: daughter and her fiance and squeeze off some handgun and
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: long gun rounds at my private. Range AND i know
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: you're a fan because you always say, faith, family flag and.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: Firearms so your ears are burning Today bobby and me
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: have mentioned you on the.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: Range it's, uh it's glock day also.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow my remark three glock days. Tomorrow thank you for
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: the extra spot for my friends at twenty three, Three,
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: bobby have a wonderful, weekend, man keep the flag. Flying.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah on the, DEBATE i got to mention this real
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: quick here because the huge problem that popped up After Hyde.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: Park you, know we all know the backstory on that
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: they have the connected communities. Thing it applies to all.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: Neighborhoods you have no say as a local, neighborhood one
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: of the fifty two within the city Of. Cincinnati sucks
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: to be. You you aren't allowed to control your own.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: Destiny that's the bottom line and the point on That
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: Hyde park, said hell, no they got a petition to
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: go on the ballot to repeal that mandate regarding the
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: well connected developers and the various projects they were doing
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: in spite of the desires Of Hyde park. Residents, WELL
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: i have to have purple kind of addressing this, yesterday
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: he claims we're in a housing, crisis and solving the
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: crisis required construction of affordable. Housing got a market force
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  Speaker 1: problem with that atab sorry, said Since i's previous zoning
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: laws were hindering, progress so what do they? Do they
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: slapped a one size fits all connected communities proposal on every,
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: neighborhood and he said that they sometimes need to disagree
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: with residents in one part of the town in order
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: to help the needs of the residents in the entire.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: City quote tell me if you don't hear little marks
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: in this from each according's ability to each accurting to his. Need,
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  Speaker 1: quote we are going to do the, hard sometimes unpopular
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  Speaker 1: work of building housing Across cincinnati because pole after pole
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: will show you we need, housing and we need, more
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: specifically affordable, housing suggesting that the city cannot become a
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: city for solely wealthy. People, now is that a marketing
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: strategy to bring people in the city Of? Cincinnati in other, words,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: hey you are always going to be subject to the
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: whim of Cincinna City. Council it's unpopular. Work we're doing
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: that unpopular work is going to land or potentially could
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: land in your. Neighborhood, so as you're selecting a neighborhood
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: that fits your, needs your, style your measure of, affordability
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: you might Like Hyde. Park you might look at the
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: square and, say, man this is a gorgeous. Neighborhood it's
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: basically a walking. Community look at all the lovely, homes
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: look at the, cars look at the, shops look at the.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: STORES i like it. Here but the looming thread is
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: that your neighborhood may be, disrupted disrupted in the form
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: of a mandated affordable housing. Complex going in there and
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: ask yourself this, question how do you calculate? Affordability you
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: old real estate, mantra, location, location, Location AND i would
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  Speaker 1: argue that the new housing that was originally proposed In Hyde,
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  Speaker 1: park if you let market forces apply and you don't
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: institute sort of rent, control if you want to live
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: In Hyde, park it's going to cost you. More let's
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: say you have a seven hundred square foot apartment apartment.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: Complex you know you're, OKAY i got my rent on
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: seven hundred square. FEET i guarantee you as sure As
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: i'm sitting. Here rent on seven hundred square feet In
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  Speaker 1: Hyde park is going to be a hell of a
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: lot less than rent in let's just pick one, Randomly
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: avondale or even on the west, Side West, End Corey
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: bauman's down. There how much rent would you get for
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: a seven hundred square foot apartment in The West end
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: Versus Hyde. Park so you can't just say we are
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: going to build affordable housing unless you dictate what exactly
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: affordable is and you limit market forces from actually. Applying
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: you can see how this works. Out i'd be scared
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: as hell about, that AND i don't think that's a
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: good look for The city Of. Cincinnati in other, words
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: you in any given neighborhood can't control your own. Destiny
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: your property values may very well be impacted by something
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: the city. MANDATES i don't like that at, all AND
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: i feel very sorry for some of my residents in
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: The city Of cincinnati because that's already happened to. Them
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: how much is your house work worth over and, say,
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: OH i don't, know price hill now versus maybe fifteen years,
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: ago six right? Now if you have kercity talk, Station
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: Jack windsor from The High Press network on that war
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: on hemp and we'll figure out around the. COUNTRY i
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: need to know the weather in, traffic don't know FI
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  Speaker 1: r talkstation appropriately time bumper music From executi Producer Joe.
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  Speaker 1: Strecker to deal with the first, topic we're going to get.
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  Speaker 1: Too If Jack windsor returns to these editor in chief
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: of The Ihio Press, network which you can find, online
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: AND i encourage you to do so The ohio pressnetwork
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  Speaker 1: dot com front page right. There Governor Ohio governor suspends
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  Speaker 1: sales intoxicating hemp. Products Jack, windsor it's great having you
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  Speaker 1: on the fifty FIVE Krc Morning. Show, Sir welcome On Happy. Friday.
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  Speaker 12: Brian it's always an honor to be here with you
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  Speaker 12: and the karc family And, joe thanks for setting it.
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  Speaker 12: Up always appreciate being.
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  Speaker 1: Here thank, you AND i love having you on because
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  Speaker 1: you'll be able to explain a couple of things to.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: Me most, notably we're going to get to. THIS i you,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: Know I'm i'm confused as hell about The ohio property tax.
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  Speaker 1: Situation let's table that just for a. MOMENT i THINK
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  Speaker 1: i UNDERSTAND hemp a little bit. Better that's not a revealing,
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  Speaker 1: statement but we have hemp is legal to. Grow i've
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  Speaker 1: HAD i, Mean Thomas massey worked on this. Forever hemp
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  Speaker 1: has what point three or less of the INTOXICATING, thc
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  Speaker 1: which is the big thing that's going to get your.
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  Speaker 1: Stone so hemp has got a million different industrial. Uses
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  Speaker 1: you can make clothes out of, it you can make
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: ballpoint pens out of, it you can make wood out of,
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: it on and on and. On an amazing multipurpose. Use
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: minder staying it's easy to, grow it's it grows. Quickly
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  Speaker 1: so this has got all kinds of positives built into.
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  Speaker 1: It BUT i draw a, parallel and, You Jack, windsor
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  Speaker 1: can tell me If i'm. WRONG i guess industrial hemp's
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: kind of like the poppy. Plant you can get opium
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: out of, poppy but that's not good. Enough you need something,
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: stronger so you make morphine out of the, opium and
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: then you make heroin out of the. Morphine so you
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: keep concentrating it and refining it to the point where
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: it gets well dangerous zero point three PERCENT, THHC i,
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  Speaker 1: guess can be concentrated down to an intoxicating level OF.
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  Speaker 1: Thc IF i got the lay of the land on that, Right,
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  Speaker 1: JACK i think.
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  Speaker 12: You do you have the lay of the land on
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 12: that and one of the, issues and Then i'll stop
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 12: because you may want to direct me into a different.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 12: Direction so, one it can be hyper concentrated and extremely.
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  Speaker 12: Intoxicating that's number. One but number, TWO i think the
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  Speaker 12: geist under Which DeWine has proposed This Executive order twenty
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  Speaker 12: twenty five FIVE. D he's calling it an adulterated consumer
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 12: product emergency is that these products are maybe not labeled
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 12: accurately and they are sold without. Verification so the issue
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  Speaker 12: That DeWine talks about is a kid can go to
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 12: a corner, store ce, store convenience, store gas station and, say,
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  Speaker 12: HEY i want some of those things that look like
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 12: gushers or those things that look like cabbage patch kids
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 12: or those things that you know looks look like, whatever
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 12: and buy, them go to, school take, them get. High
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  Speaker 12: and if you saw the press conference he had On,
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  Speaker 12: wednesday was really what the lab coat beside him said
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 12: from The Poison Control center was that there has been
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 12: a drastic increase in the number of calls and poison
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 12: cases for nineteen year olds in, below some of those
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 12: resulting in. Hospitalization so there is there are a couple
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 12: of issues, here and we can kind of tease, those
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 12: tease those, out But i'll just stop.
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  Speaker 1: There, no that's an excellent it's a, great great explanation
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  Speaker 1: of what's going on. Here so it sounds to me
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  Speaker 1: like something that's in need of labeling laws or you,
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: know there needs to be, warnings maybe an age cut
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  Speaker 1: off like there is for, alcohol like there is for
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: purchasing legalized. Marijuana you can't just walk into a store
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: and buy weed at a marijuana, shop got to show
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: them YOUR id to get, in blah blah. Blah so
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: you can go to the like a convenience store and
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: buy these concentrates in the form of hemp without any
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: other protocols in. Place that that sounds like something to
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: be need. Fixing so do you have any criticism with
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: the way in which he went about? It this sounds
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: like it requires legislative.
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  Speaker 12: Action oh, YEAH i spent my entire radio show yesterday
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 12: Dragging mike to wine BECAUSE i want to remind listeners
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 12: And i'm, sorry not. Sorry this is a guy who
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 12: vetoed The Say act that would have kept kids from
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 12: taking chemical castration drugs and cutting off healthy body. Parts
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 12: this is a guy who used tax dollars to incent
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 12: experimental jabs for, kids which we now know calls my o,
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 12: carditis and we knew back, then but he ignored those.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 12: Warnings so Whenever Mike DeWine strolls out with a lab
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 12: coat beside him to pretend like he cares for, kids
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  Speaker 12: my initial thought is how MUCH bs AM i going
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 12: to have to wade through here to get the. Truth
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 12: so that's one, Issue but the second issue is are
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 12: we using a wrecking ball where we could use a?
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  Speaker 12: Scalpel AND i like, Bourbon i'm not afraid to say,
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  Speaker 12: that and so WHEN i look at INTOXICATING, HEMP i,
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  Speaker 12: go why don't we treat it like? Bourbon and WHAT
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  Speaker 12: i mean by that is if you go to any gas,
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  Speaker 12: station you can get, beer you can get, wine and
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 12: you can get those little. Fireballs now they're water.
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  Speaker 1: Down bourbon or water down. Liquor, basically if it's under
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: WHAT abv or something like, that.
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  Speaker 12: Yes if it's under a certain, percentage you can get.
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  Speaker 12: It and if you want the good, stuff as bourbon
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  Speaker 12: drinkers like me would tell, you you go to AN
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 12: ohlq site In kroger or In Giant. Eagle so why
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  Speaker 12: can't we do the same, thing and people, go, well you,
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  Speaker 12: know do you know how hard it is to let
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 12: people know that they need to? Card AND i, go, well,
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  Speaker 12: no that seems like a strong man, argument because if
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  Speaker 12: he's going to outlaw intoxicating him by the, fourteenth guess
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 12: what he's going to communicate WITH cea, stores gas stations
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  Speaker 12: and other purveyors of these. Products why can't you then
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 12: say in that, communication we're going to require you to,
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  Speaker 12: card and then you can start this process of making
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  Speaker 12: sure the labels are, accurate making sure that we create
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 12: rules through legislation around how much concentrated hemp you can.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 12: Sell but why can't we treat it like? Alcohol my big,
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  Speaker 12: Beef by the, WAY i have some friends in the
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 12: alcohol distribution. BUSINESS i don't understand why an alcohol distribution
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 12: business who sells hemp beverages is now required to take
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 12: all of that off their shelves when, frankly those are
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 12: the ones that are probably labeled accurately and sold to adult.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 12: Consumers so, again this feels to me like a wrecking,
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 12: ball whereas scalpel is. NEEDED i hope that makes.
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  Speaker 1: Sense it, does And i'm not disagreeing with you. Fundamentally
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  Speaker 1: now are there quality controls in connection with the so
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: called intoxicating hemp Products because you go to a marijuana,
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: store it's got all kinds of quality. Controls it has
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: to tay exact concentrations when it was, inspected it was
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: expected by a third party outside. Inspector so you get
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: some level of comfort what you're smoking or taking whatever
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: isn't laden with all kinds of chemicals or mites or.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: That now with the concentrated hemp, industry are they subject
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: to those quality?
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  Speaker 12: Controls you know they are, not and they should. Be
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  Speaker 12: AND i think that is the crux of the issue
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 12: is how do we get our arms around the, packaging
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 12: what's inside the package and making sure that it's, compliant
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 12: that it's, accurate that it's. Safe and so that is
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 12: certainly a steer that we have to wrestle with. HERE i,
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  Speaker 12: mean if you look at the story we have on
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 12: the iiO press, network we have, them we have pictures
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 12: There gushers and then you have some other smaller branded.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 12: Gushers that is. Confusing and by the, way that's probably
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 12: an intellectual property. ISSUE i, mean that's a lawsuit waiting to.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 12: HAPPEN i can't believe somebody has sued those. Distributors, Right, so,
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  Speaker 12: yes those are issues THAT i think we have to wrestle.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 12: With but, AGAIN i think we do it. Legislatively but
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 12: here's the other ISSUE i want to bring, Up, brian
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  Speaker 12: BECAUSE i THINK i think it needs to be. DISCUSSED
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  Speaker 12: i have a fundamental. Issue if we're going to do
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 12: this the same way that we did, casinos we created a.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 12: Cartel we created a government. Monopoly and if you're telling
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 12: me that in order to sell, hemp you have to
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 12: now do it through the handful of dispensaries that our government,
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 12: APPROVED i think that creates an other government created, monopoly
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 12: AND i think that stifles. Competition And i'm not for
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 12: that makes.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: Sense it, does and we outright rejected that cartel. Situation
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: the voters Of, ohio the ones that approved legalization in,
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: marijuana ultimately said hell no to these hands selected what
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: we always referred to as cartel. MEMBERS i remember talking
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: to the people who were behind the, effort and when
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: you look behind the, Scenes, GEE i wonder how somebody
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: was hand. Selected, oh it's because You're John bayner and
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: you're part of one of the collectives that is pushing
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: for one of these, licenses so and it was supposed
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: to go into The constitution at the time as. Well
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: oh my, god what a train wreck that. Was so
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: nobody out there in The ohio population wants to go
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: down that. Road Jack, ones, RIGHT i agree with. You,
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  Speaker 1: now is there something in connection with the chemical nature
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: of this intoxicating? Himp BECAUSE i know law enforcements always
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: struggling and legislators elect officials always struggling with they come
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: out with a designer drug which is not on anybody's
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: field of. Vision it doesn't. Exist it comes up one,
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: day it gets people whacked out of their, mind but
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: it's not. Scheduled they have to pass a loss scheduling
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: that new. Compound is there some component of that involved
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: with the type OF thhc that's coming out of these.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 12: CONCENTRATES i think that's exactly what's going to happen this executive.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 12: ORDER i believe it has empowered The High department Of
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 12: agriculture to determine what is intoxicating hemp and what is legal. Hemp,
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 12: essentially because intoxicating hemp will then be forbidden at least
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 12: for ninety, days unless the legislature says after thirty, days,
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 12: no we're going to handle. This there's no more emergency.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 12: Order SO i think what they're going to have to
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 12: wrestle with is exactly what you're talking, about what is
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 12: the concentration. Level and we're going to have to get
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 12: that stuff though over the finish line in, bills not executive,
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 12: orders and SO i think that's where this will shake.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 12: Out the challenge that we're going to run into is
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 12: the governor's intoxicating hemp ban has already drawn a. Lawsuit
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 12: The Ohio Healthy Alternatives association Said thursday it's suing to
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 12: block the executive. Action so this will likely get tied
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 12: up in. Court so potentially that executive order might you,
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 12: know a judge might issue a stay while this plays
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 12: out in. Court, yeah and so we're gonna have time
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 12: to figure all that.
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  Speaker 10: Out.
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  Speaker 1: Well if they issue an, injunction that is a suggestive
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: of likelihood of success on the, merits meaning those who
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: are seeking to stop this executive. Order if they get an,
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: injunction then the court has already determined that maybe something was.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: Wrong he didn't have the authority to do, it he
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: overstepped his. Boundary this is something that belongs to the legislative.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: Branch so popcorn's out on that. One Jack winsor will
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: see what happens points well taken this, Morning i'll tell you.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: What we'll pause, now we'll bring you. Back see if
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: you can unpackage property tax in the state Of. Ohio,
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: Yes Bill Sitz's Property Tax Working group has issued their
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: recommendations war With Jack windsor after these brief words stick.
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  Speaker 3: Around fifty FIVE. Krc it's eighteen on A.
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  Speaker 1: Friday Happy friday to. You bottom of the. Hour we're
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: gonna hear From Corey bowman aka Jd vance's half. Brother
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: thank You joe on the rundown. Anytime jack wins is
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: on the. Front he's a editor in chief of The
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: Ohio Press. Network final online ad of, course The Ohio
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: Press network dot. Com real quick comment on the last, Topic,
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: jack question from one of my listeners on an instant, Message,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: Well governor to, wine build a build a wall to
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: block the borders From ohio To kentucky and Maybe indiana
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: in order to keep intoxicating hemp products. OUT i guess
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: the next question on that Real, Briefly Jack, windsor this
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: doesn't stop people from ordering it online and having it
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: delivered to their front, door does?
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  Speaker 12: It, well that's a great, question and that's a question
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 12: THAT i didn't have an answer to, yesterday And i'm
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 12: still trying to. Discern the initial answer was, no they
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 12: can still do the mail order, thing BUT i was
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 12: warned yesterday that that might be a sticky. Area so
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 12: if that's what you're, DOING i don't want to give
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 12: any legal. Advice and, frankly, AGAIN i think that there's
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 12: probably going to be an injunction issued BECAUSE hemp is,
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 12: legal and there are not laws essentially being, broken and
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 12: so you have an executive order to me that does
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 12: not have a law to backstop. It SO i think
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 12: we're kind of in murky water. HERE i think the
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 12: best the wine is going to get is a, pause
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 12: and we're gonna probably have to get the lawmakers, involved
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 12: AND i think they're frankly between you and me as
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 12: we toggle to this next, TOPIC i think lawmakers are
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 12: collectively rolling their eyes like there goes the governor, again you,
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 12: know trying to trying to play congressional representative or state
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 12: lawmaker instead of playing. Governor AND i think they're about
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 12: to take the reins on, this.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: Right he'll get smacked by the courts and then the,
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: lawmakers recognizing the obvious need for some fixes and some
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: holes in the bucket being, plugged should act very. Quickly
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: this seems like a no, Brainer, jack all, right what
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: isn't a Nor Property Tax Working group and the. Recommendations
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: we've got a serious problem in the state Of, ohio
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: so much so there's a baut initiative to eliminate all
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: property taxes at constitutional. Amendment AND i know that's got
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of people quicking in their, boots AND i
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: sort of smile over the concept BECAUSE i love the
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: idea of not having property, taxes but The charlie foxtrot
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: reality of having no property taxes up ends the whole
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: financing structure for parks and police and fire and local
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: issues and school. Boards and are we gonna Let columbus
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: decide where the money goes and are they going to
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: collect some extra sales tax? Whatever but, that of course
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: has resulted in The Property Tax Working group on the
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: heels of the veto of three provisions that would have
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: provided some measure of relief for O high as it
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: was in the. Budget dwaine promised that none of The
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: Property Tech Working group is going to give us some
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: great ideas and here they. Are is there anything in
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: This Property Tax Working group that you can explain to my,
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: listeners because AS i read, it my eyes gloss over
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: jacket really is painful to.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 10: Read let me.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 12: Take two tracks. Here the first one is to shed
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 12: light on how serious this. IS i, believe based on
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 12: my conversations with, Lawmakers, brian that lawmakers Take Governor Dowin's
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 12: Property Tax Reform Working, group stacked with lobbyists who have
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 12: vested interest in maintaining the status, quo about as seriously
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 12: as guys like you and me would take a toddler's
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 12: crayon scribbled business plan for running a lemonade stand. IN i,
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 12: mean it's, king but at the end of the, day
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 12: we're looking at a toddler's. Work that's totally HOW i
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 12: feel that lawmakers are looking at, this and you're, right real,
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 12: quick just a, Reminder Originally County Budget commission authority would
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 12: have been increased in the, budget cash balance carryovers for
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 12: schools would have been, restricted a revamp at the twenty
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 12: mili floor calculation would have been in, play and school
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 12: district leve levees would have been restricted because it would
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 12: have take away misnomers like emergency and replacement. Levees dwine
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 12: didn't like. Those but here's at the end of the, Day,
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 12: no when you talk about, one lawmakers are not taking this.
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  Speaker 12: Seriously so regardless of what they did or didn't, do
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 12: DON'T i don't think it's going to, make you, know
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 12: a bit of.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: Difference but.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 12: It was a symbolic. GESTURE i, mean there was some
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 12: focus on short term, fixes like they would move the
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 12: carryover balance that schools could carry over to one hundred
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 12: percent instead of forty. Percent they would create this five
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 12: year glide path for, levies which essentially, says look their,
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 12: grandfathers you can't cut them. Right and there was a
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 12: lot of support for existing pieces of, legislation and so to,
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 12: me it shied away from radical, overhauls prioritizing what they
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 12: would call fairness and transparency over deep. Cuts and at
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 12: the end of the, Day, BRIAN i think you hit
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 12: it nail on the. Head at the, beginning this feels
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 12: like we're rearranging deck furniture on The titanic because property
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 12: taxes might be a sinking ship in the state Of.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 12: Ohio citizens said all, right lawmakers, Listened they put it
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 12: in the. Budget dwind, vetoed and now they did the
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 12: right and they came up with this twenty point plan
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 12: that doesn't seem to make a damn bit of difference
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 12: for the average. TAXPAYER i think what this has done
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 12: is it has increased interest in totally slashing property, taxes making,
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 12: them you, know. Unconstitutional that's WHERE i think we're.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: At how let me just test the, Waters Jack, windsor
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: how does that play out in? Reality going back to my,
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: point you take away the local property tax, issues you
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: take away the local levy issues because there's no more property.
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: Tax how does how do you sort of deal with the? Aftermath?
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 12: Jack, yeah no fair, Question And i'm really glad that
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 12: you're holding my feet to the fire on. This the
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 12: Example i'll give you that's cheeky is if you ever
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 12: taken a drug of choice away from an, addict an
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 12: addict will always find a way to get their drug of,
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 12: choice you, know all things being. Equal, well you're trying
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 12: to take money away from people addicted to power and.
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 12: Money eventually they're going to figure out a way to
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 12: get their. Money and SO i think the real question
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 12: is has it been done? Before and the answer is,
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 12: yes places Like Wyoming, Tennessee, Nevada, Florida, washington they have
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 12: a state income tax of. Zero now In ohio we
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 12: have a two point seventy five percent flat. TAX i
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 12: think we're headed to zero, there but right now it's
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 12: two point seventy five. Percent those other states THAT i just,
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 12: named they have zero point six percent point sixty six
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 12: point six to eight point eight nine point ninety, two almost,
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 12: zero but not zero property. Tax and so, ultimately if
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 12: we have two point seventy five percent income, tax that
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 12: buoy's some of that. Money it's just we're going to
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 12: have to change The Ohio Revised code and rules and
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 12: The High Administrative code on how money flows through to those,
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 12: entities particularly, schools fire, departments and police. Departments but, overall
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 12: when you look at this these other, states you, know
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 12: no income, tax low property.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 10: Tax what do they?
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 12: Do then they rely on sales tax seven to ten,
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 12: percent or excise taxes or business. Taxes so there are
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 12: other revenue, streams and what we will simply see is
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 12: an increase in those taxes and in those. Assessments But
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 12: i'm going to go back to if you ever take
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 12: a drug of choice away from an, addict they always
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 12: find their drug of. CHOICE i don't think we're going
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 12: to have an issue with The General assembly or other
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 12: people in power finding a way to get the money
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 12: that they. Want we're just going to have. To we
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 12: all like, change, Right it's the transition that. Sucks it's the.
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 12: Transition it's going to be tough because we're going to
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 12: have to go from relying on property taxes to fund
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 12: these things to relying on other revenue. Streams but, ULTIMATELY
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 12: i think that's what's going to.
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: Happen, well they're gonna have to get ahead of the
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 1: curve on this property tax issue where they look at
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: the work property tax working group, stuff or some go
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 1: down some other path because they're going to have a
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 1: lot of work to do in electric. Capacity if we
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: repeal the property tax In, ohio they're gonna have to
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 1: do a lot of work to. Do, yeah all, right
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: for Sid Jack, windsor you can find him again at
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: The Ohio Press network and we'll look for you. Online Jack,
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: winsor appreciate what you.
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 12: Do.
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: Man you're always welcome here on the fifty Five Krssey.
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 1: Morning you should have a great, weekend Brother, brian you,
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 1: too thank. You, Decation Happy, Friday early voting is going
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  Speaker 1: on right. Now you apparently have twenty eight days and
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 1: you can see the countdown At coreybowman dot. Com it's
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: right there on the front page of his. Website twenty five,
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: days eleven, hours fifty nine minutes and now eighteen seconds to.
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  Speaker 1: Vote Corey, Bowman welcome back to the fifty Five Cassey Morning.
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 1: Show on the heels of your debate against aftab pervol
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: last night At. Xavier how you feel this, Morning, Corey.
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 13: Well i'm chilling a lot. BETTER i just stopped by
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 13: my shop and got my first quartato for the, day
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 13: so it's gonna be a good day, today. Sir how
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 13: you doing great to have be on the. Show it's.
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: Great so you Know wednesday night at the smitham and.
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: FUNDRAISER i, MEAN i know you pretty, Well. COREY i
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: Mean i've talked to you a lot on the, Air
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 1: i've talked to you off. Air i've heard you comment
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: In in no, way shape or form WOULD i ever
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 1: like declare you as some sort of maga, conservative which
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 1: apparently is exactly what after have Pro ball came, out
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: we created a drinking game yesterday in anticipation or. Debate
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: anytime someone Mentions trump OR. Maga that was a, shot
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: and of course he accused you of being A Maga.
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 1: REPUBLICAN i don't know why the. Audience somebody said he
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 1: said you're A maga extremist and the audience. Booting SO
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 1: i don't know why the audience is. Doing and the
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: fact that he REPRESENTS. MAGA i, mean you either support
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 1: The trump agenda or you. Don't you can't run for
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 1: mayor and not be concerned with the federal employees who
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: are getting, fired not be concerned with the racializing of
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: our own public safety challenges here in. Community, DUDE i
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 1: have never heard you racialize. Anything i've never heard you
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: even address federal level funding and spending because you're not
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 1: running for an office that controls or has anything to
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 1: do with. It that did that really irk? YOU i
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: guess this is my fundamental. Question did you feel, like
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: oh my, GOD i have to actually spend time pointing
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 1: this reality? Out?
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 5: WELL i don't.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 13: Know it's because basically we knew that these were going
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 13: to be the talking. Points you, know the playbook's always the.
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 13: Same and for, me like you, said we're running this
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 13: race For, cincinnati and so our biggest battle that we've
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 13: had throughout the entire. Year is just showing people that
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 13: we're not running this based on copy and pasting national.
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 13: POLITICS i have opinions on national, politics like everybody, does
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 13: but that really shouldn't be brought to city hall when
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 13: it comes to just fixing your roads and making sure
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 13: the money spent properly and make sure that your crime
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 13: is in. Order these are practical issues that require just
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 13: common sense, solutions AND i think that's what people are tired,
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 13: of you. Know and people were booing when that was brought,
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 13: up because that's what people are fed up. With they're
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 13: fed up with people from city hall trying to act
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 13: like they're on a national stage when really we need
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 13: to be focusing on the people that are on the
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 13: streets Of. Cincinnati and that's.
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 1: It, well and they kept coming back with. IT i
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 1: noticed the end of the, debate they just ask you, out, Pointy,
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 1: plank if there's anything you disagree With trump on. AGAIN i,
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 1: Mean trump's dealing with global, affairs, warfare he's dealing with
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: interstate commerce, issues fighting like national drug. CRISES i, MEAN
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 1: i know what they're trying to.
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 12: Do.
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: Corey i'm not an, idiot but you know IT'S i think,
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 1: personally it's insulting to the audience in the, crowd who
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 1: are presumably residents of The city Of cincinnati or care
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: about City cincinnati issues for him to be pushing things
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 1: on a national. Level Christopher smithlan has harped on this
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: for years and. Years why are they passing ordinances in
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: the city Of cincinnati saying something like we disagree With.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: Israel he got no connection With. Israel get back to
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: the business of the city Of. Cincinnati, Dammit, no you're absolutely.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 13: True you, know there's obviously things from the national level
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 13: that impact local. Citizens and so if there is clear Anti,
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 13: semitism that there's clear discrimination against a certain group for a,
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 13: race that's stuff that we have to stand up against
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 13: him matter. What but you know what's funny is THAT
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 13: i was at THE boe AND i was casting my.
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 13: Vote i'm a little. BIASED i won't tell you WHO
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 13: i voted. For but As i'm, THERE i speak with
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 13: a gentleman and he's wearing A palestine sweatshirt, on and
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 13: initially he's yelling at my guys because he disagrees with
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 13: a lot of stuff from a national standpoint of what
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 13: the conservative movement stands. FOR i spoke with him for five,
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 13: minutes AND i kid you, not after five, minutes he
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 13: realized what we were running this race on and he
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 13: told me point, Blank i'm going to switch my vote
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 13: from mappab to you because of what you've just told
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 13: me right. Now SO i just think that that is
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 13: symbolic of what this campaign has to, represent is just
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 13: getting people to, realize we have to run this For.
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 13: Cincinnati we have to take care of our own. Streets you,
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 13: know one thing last night they kept, saying AND i don't,
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 13: KNOW i don't know whether he just has people in
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 13: his ear that flat out, lie but he kept saying
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 13: That i've called for The National guard to come To
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 13: cincinnati Never and What i've What i've told people over
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 13: and over and over is that number, one we don't
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 13: have violent riot currently in the. Streets that's not the,
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 13: case that we don't need. It Number, two a city
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 13: that's run properly can actually take care of its own.
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 13: Crime but that's not what's happening right. Now we've got
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 13: to change this from internal structure Within.
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 1: Well pause Ring corey bumming. Back we'll talk about the
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: crime specific conversation and, exchange but ALSO i want to
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 1: talk to him about the exchange about controlling one's own
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 1: destiny in one's own neighborhood within the city Of, cincinnati
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 1: insofar as property. GOES i thought that was rather revealing
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 1: what they have. Had Pro baoll revealed yesterday eight thirty,
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: Six right now With Corey bowman after these brief, words.
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 3: Fifty FIVE krc is your five million talk.
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 1: Station Brent towmins With Corey, bowman mayoral. Candidate find the
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 1: on Line Corey bowman dot. Com we have a choice
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 1: and it is open voting right. NOW i want to
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 1: pivot over to housing and, development AND i have to
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: have Pro ball was on and on Yesterday Corey bowman
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 1: about the need to create and build affordable. HOUSING i
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 1: think he claims he wants to. Build he personally is
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 1: going to get a hammer out and build forty thousand
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: affordable housing. Units before we get to the question of
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 1: what exactly is affordability and is it the same in
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 1: any given. Neighborhood he sure as hell pointed out that
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 1: you do not really have the right to self. Determination
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 1: we need affordable. Housing he's firm in that in order
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 1: to solve that, crisis we have to build. Them and
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 1: he said the prior zoning laws were what was binding
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 1: or hindering. Progress, NOW i know you'll have a word
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: or two on that in your neighborhood, specifically you know
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 1: what was hindering. Progress but he said sometimes that the
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 1: council and the mayors always need to disagree with residents
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 1: in one part of town or to address the needs
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 1: of residence in the entire, city saying we're going to
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: do the, hard sometimes unpopular work of building housing across
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 1: the city because pole after pole will show you we
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 1: need this kind of affordable. HOUSING i, mean he's isn't
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 1: he basically saying that if you move in the city Of,
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 1: cincinnati you're under threat or risk of having your neighborhood
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 1: completely transformed in spite of what you want on popular
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 1: as may, be by them foisting a bunch of affordable
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: housing in your. Neighborhood that is not exactly a welcome
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 1: sign for moving to the city Of. Cincinnati Corey, bowman your, response,
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 1: NOW i think that you, know.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 13: The argument on the other side is that you know
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 13: what we're seeing from the federal government, dictatorship and you,
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 13: know taking authority where you.
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 5: Shouldn't but that's exactly what we.
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 13: Saw last night from From Atpa purval and he said
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 13: the he, said the real part out loud is that,
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 13: basically no matter what you feel about your, neighborhoods no
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 13: matter what you feel about, development we are going to
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 13: issue our own, development our own standards on, zoning and
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 13: you're not going to have anything to say about. It
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 13: AND i don't think that's Right cincinnati. Especially you, know
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 13: it's one thing to regulate certain things downtown because you
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 13: have to have businesses and you have to have residential
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 13: all working. Together but we are a city of fifty two.
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 13: Neighborhoods every neighborhood has its own, uniqueness its own. Character
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 13: and if you're sitting there saying that we're going to
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 13: copy and paste our own, design development and zoning regulations
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 13: on you and you basically can't say anything about, it,
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 13: well in my, mind that is not properly representing the
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 13: people of your. City AND i don't think that's. Right you,
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 13: know we see that in The West. End they've put
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 13: somewhereabouts you, can you, know basically prove about sixty seven
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 13: to seventy, percent but really it's about you, know closer
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 13: to eighty percent of affordable, housing and they keep calling
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 13: it affordable housing and government subsidized. Housing you, know LIKE
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 13: i jokingly, said BUT i knew the fact that it
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 13: is thirty sixty. Percent. AMI i have a friend that's
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 13: developing a property across the street from my coffee. Shop
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  Speaker 13: he's doing eighty. Percent. Ami it's just government stuff to die.
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  Speaker 13: Housing to try to put it, down the problem is
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  Speaker 13: is that what they're funding is organizations in goos and
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  Speaker 13: people that don't have the tenant's best interest at. Heart
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  Speaker 13: they're funneling, money and then on top of, that they're
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  Speaker 13: building concrete blocks that basically feel like a, prison and
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  Speaker 13: they really are because they're keeping people in poverty the
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  Speaker 13: rest of their. Lives there's no pathway. Out AND i
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  Speaker 13: couldn't disagree more with the policy of what's been happening.
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  Speaker 1: Currently, well you may have answered my question because earlier
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  Speaker 1: in the, PROGRAM i was, saying what is affordable? Housing
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  Speaker 1: just like you. Are no one ever puts a dollar
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  Speaker 1: sign on, it, necessarily but even if they, did if
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  Speaker 1: you build a complex In Hyde, park six hundred square foot,
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  Speaker 1: apartments that's going to command a certain rent because it's
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 1: in a certain. Neighborhood now if you build the same
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 1: complex in your neighborhood in The West, end would a
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 1: six hundred square foot apartment command the same rent as
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 1: an apartment In Hyde? Park Location location, LOCATION i would suggest,
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  Speaker 1: perhaps at least as of right, Now Hyde park's going
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  Speaker 1: to command a much higher rent because of market forces and.
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  Speaker 13: Desirability, no, absolutely and, honestly and that's why the entirety
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  Speaker 13: of The West side is so up in arms right
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  Speaker 13: now is because you can buy a house with the same,
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 13: property same architectural design on the west, side same, beauty same,
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  Speaker 13: character and then you buy the same house on the east,
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  Speaker 13: side and the east side is going to go for
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  Speaker 13: one hundred and two hundred thousand. More and so what
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  Speaker 13: happens is that these, policies when it comes to the affordable,
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  Speaker 13: housing ultimately you're kind of trying to mimic or you're not,
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  Speaker 13: mimic but you're trying to dictate the, market and when
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  Speaker 13: you do that property value just goes. Down, overall you're
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  Speaker 13: concentrating the. Poverty therefore you're concentrating the. Crime and then
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  Speaker 13: one Thing i'd say to the opposition is that you're
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  Speaker 13: showing up for photo ops to Paint Black Lives matter
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  Speaker 13: on City, hall but really Do black lives matter when
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  Speaker 13: it comes to this affordable. Housing from What i've, seen
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  Speaker 13: you concentrate poverty and, crime which inadversly it affects the black.
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  Speaker 13: Communities and that's something that we have to. Fight we
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  Speaker 13: have to give everybody the opportunity to have a step
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  Speaker 13: up in. Prosperity and that's not what's. Happening that is
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  Speaker 13: not what's. Happening all, right we're gonna pivot over to.
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  Speaker 13: Crime we'll take a quick break right, now Bring Corey
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  Speaker 13: bowman back to talk about the back and forth yesterday
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 13: during the debate At Zavier university on. Crime one more
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  Speaker 13: with mayor ole Candidate Corey bowman again online At coreybowman dot.
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  Speaker 3: Com let's be right back fifty FIVE Krc Sports.
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  Speaker 1: STATION i share that sentiment on A, Friday Corey bowman's
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 1: on the line he was involved in the debate With.
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  Speaker 1: MAYOR i have to Have. PURVOL i think he did
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 1: an excellent job last. Night Corey, bowman and you got
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  Speaker 1: one more debate with the. MAYOR i guess real quick
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  Speaker 1: here on the property, THING i Think MAYOR i have
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  Speaker 1: to Have parvol said something along the. LINES a city
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  Speaker 1: can't become a city just solely for wealthy. People but
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 1: isn't that exactly what they did when they gentrified over The,
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 1: ryan kicking a lot of longtime residents out because they
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: can no longer afford, it moving in a bunch of
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 1: urban hipsters because they came with jobs and salaries that are, Taxed,
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  Speaker 1: corey wasn't that the point of? Gentrification?
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  Speaker 13: No and then also in the current area OF, otr
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  Speaker 13: everybody wants to talk about south Of, Liberty that's where
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 13: the mayor has all the. Videos nobody wants to talk
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 13: About north Of. Liberty you, know last NIGHT i invited
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 13: the Guests Ronda winn to be on the front. Road,
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 13: Now i'll be honest with, You i've had talked with
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 13: her and she wasn't fully convinced about the race. Yet
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 13: she's just trying to get justice for her daughter's murder
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 13: that happened north Of liberty IN. Otr and still to this,
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 13: day the mayor has not reached out to. Her last,
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 13: night he had a perfect example to meet her and
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 13: didn't meet her on the front. Row and then so
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 13: Afterwards Ms ronda comes up to. Me he, Says i'm with.
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  Speaker 13: You we're going to get this.
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  Speaker 5: Thing and so those are things.
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  Speaker 13: That we're, seeing is that when you talk about the
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  Speaker 13: gentrification or when you talk about these housing, policies it
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  Speaker 13: ultimately leads to concentrated, crime and that is leaving victims
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 13: at the hands of all these. Criminals and that's what
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 13: we've got to stop. It it's basically a trickle down
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 13: in confidence from the top.
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  Speaker 1: Down, well and based on his comments last, night you
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  Speaker 1: Think mary have to Have provoll was the best friend
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 1: of the police. Department, he's, oh we've worked, together we're
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 1: we're busy doing, this and that we're going to hire
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 1: more police. Officers but you pointed out an excellent, point
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 1: and he has been very reactive as opposed to proactive
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 1: when it comes to. Policing what. Happens we Have Sarah
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 1: herringer's husband stabbed the death in their apartment and over
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 1: the rhine that through tremendous. Outrage that's when we found
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 1: out that, no they're not monitoring ankle bracelets out on
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 1: the World low And. Behold then of course you had
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 1: the Late july beat Down. Holly we all saw the
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 1: video And i've talked to her and had her on the.
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 1: Program you've met her and talked to.
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  Speaker 13: Her he was there last, night she was, good And
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 13: mayor failed to talk with her last. Night we had
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 13: ample opportunity before and after to speak with multiple individuals
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 13: in the, room and he did not speak with any
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  Speaker 13: of those. Victims die And Buy it on the front
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  Speaker 13: row last.
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  Speaker 1: Night and we made it to the national stage for that,
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 1: incident which prompted him to do what implement curfew enforcement
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 1: at least pay lip service to it in certain, neighborhoods
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 1: improve policing in certain, neighborhoods and a cry to hire
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 1: more police. Officers all of this was in reaction to
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 1: the post national. Headlines what had he done prior to, that,
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 1: though is really What i'm, wondering especially since he hired
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 1: On Iris rowley as a very well paid consultant who
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 1: is nothing but an apparently an agitator who actually interferes
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 1: with police doing their.
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  Speaker 13: Work one thing they kept saying last night on the
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 13: other side is That corey doesn't know what he's, doing
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 13: and that came right back and, said you didn't get
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 13: the endorsement OF. FOP i got THE. FOP i think
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 13: they know what they're, doing and then you didn't actually
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 13: get this just came out that he didn't get the
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  Speaker 13: endorsement from the fire department, either AND i believe that
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 13: they know what they're doing as. Well SO i think
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  Speaker 13: the ultimate thing is that maybe after four years of
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 13: being in, office he doesn't know what he's. Doing and
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 13: we've got to bring to the table because not only
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 13: just these professionals of public, safety but we cannot forget the.
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  Speaker 13: Victims the people that have been most affected are the
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  Speaker 13: people like The Sarah, herringers The Rohmda, wins the mother
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  Speaker 13: Of Krishanda. Win, oh you got to talk About holly
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  Speaker 13: who got Beat she was one of the many people
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 13: that night that was trying to stop the. Violence she
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 13: wasn't trying to instigate, it and she gets beat, down
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 13: and that's unacceptable in a major city In. America and
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 13: so we can talk about the, stats the policy all we,
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 13: want but, ultimately if we fail to recognize the victims
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 13: and the people that have seen the consequences of these,
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 13: policies then we're forgetting what it's all.
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  Speaker 1: About and one final topic that was addressed toward the,
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  Speaker 1: END i guess you're a hell no on increasing the income,
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 1: tax ALTHOUGH i have to have provol welcomes an increase
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  Speaker 1: in income tax apparently because he, said need to bring
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: in money if you want to accomplish what we want to.
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  Speaker 1: Do another red. Flag if you want to improve the
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 1: desirability of living in the city Of, cincinnati raising taxes
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  Speaker 1: is not the right way to go from my, Perspective,
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  Speaker 1: corey your.
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  Speaker 13: Take, NOW i had another guest last. Night her name Was,
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  Speaker 13: taniqua and she is actually a business, Owner black business
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  Speaker 13: owner woman in the city and very. Successful but what
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 13: she told me was that when she was down on her,
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 13: luck she went through slumlord after slum, lord and she
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 13: was getting, abused she was getting taken advantage. Of and
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 13: this is her and her children that were in terrible living,
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 13: situations and all these slum lords were funded by the. City,
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 13: well then she buys her own property and she's now a,
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 13: homeowner and she's a. Renter now a, renter but she's a.
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 13: Landlord and she's told me that ever since she's done,
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 13: this she has felt demonized or basically felt like that
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 13: she's guilty for being successful because she has to pay
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 13: into more, fees more, taxes more. Everything so that's the
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 13: system that we're under right, now is that we incentivize.
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 13: Rendership we incentivize being reliant on the. Government but if
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 13: you want to have a successful, business if you want
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 13: to be a property, owner if you want to own
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 13: a single family home in the, city then you are
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 13: basically treated.
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  Speaker 5: As the bad.
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 13: Guy and what do you think those policies.
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  Speaker 10: Are going to.
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  Speaker 13: Do the taxes have to come from. Somewhere the taxes
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 13: have to come from, business they have to come from,
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 13: property they have to come from. Income and the thing
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 13: is is that if the taxes aren't coming from that
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 13: or even the earning, text people are going to stop
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 13: spending their money In. Cincinnati and then all of a,
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 13: sudden you're going to be left with a lot of
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 13: people that will rely on the government in, renting but
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 13: they're not going to be able to step out of,
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 13: that and you're going to leave the city worse and
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 13: worse and worse and more of a. Despicit they're going
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 13: to have less money on the, books and it's just
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 13: not going to do well for the future days Of.
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati Corey, bowman it sounds me like you have a
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 1: good recipe for success as mayor of The city Of.
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati it doesn't bother me a wit that you haven't
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 1: held political office before everybody starts. Somewhere you're surrounded by good.
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 1: PEOPLE i know you've got great ideas for who the
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 1: city manager might. Be hopefully you get A Steve gooden
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 1: and At Christopher smithman And Liz keating all with. You
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 1: there are are, options there are our. Choices you can
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 1: start voting and you maybe should have already twenty five
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 1: days and eleven hours. Left Corey, Bowman you're always welcome
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 1: here on the morning, show continued to wish for success
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 1: for you and your, campaign and another encouragement my listeners
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  Speaker 1: head on over To coreybowman dot com to maybe help you.
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 1: Out take care of my. Friend have a wonderful. WEEKEND
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 1: i know we'll talk again real, Soon.
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  Speaker 13: Brian thank you so, much having an amazing.
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  Speaker 5: Weekend thanks.
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