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How Far are the Buffalo Bills from Dethroning the Chiefs? |DC · Disguised Coverage

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n t In tonight's episode, r J sums us up pretty well, saying
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the villain won. The entire planet outside of cheese, fans are sad and
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we are living in the worst timeline right now. That's actually just I should
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have just led with that. I should have just copied. I should use
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this to the episode description. Everything well, said our J in tonight's episode
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titled how far are the Buffalo Bills from Dethroning the Chiefs? And the graphic
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you know, showing chasing the Chiefs, it's a little focused on the Chiefs,
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but in the larger picture and grand scheme of things for tonight's episode,
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where we're going to dive into just how far off or how close are the
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Buffalo Bills from really getting over that hump in twenty twenty four, it seems
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once you get to a spot where success is expected and success is relative,
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but when championships are expected, and if you're defining success by championships, once
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you get to that point when you're not winning championships and they're expected, it
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gets to be a pain point for your fan base. It's a natural progression,
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and it's hard in football and sports in general, but especially in the
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NFL, where the odds of your one team winning it versus the other thirty
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one teams are are small, unless sure, the Kings City Chiefs and you
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win like every frigid year, but whatever. So you're always looking at fighting
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an uphill battle because of going up against the entire field, and then you
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have the variables of single elimination and individual playoff pieces and matchups and all that
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kind of stuff and everything they can go into it. And this episode kind
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of came about organically. It wasn't originally my plan for tonight's episode. Kind
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of came about last night and into today. But you know, I've seen
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some talk in my real life and then on social media and different pieces in
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terms of kind of chasing the Chiefs, and not only chasing the Chiefs if
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you're the Bills, but chasing that larger picture and piece of the pie of
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finally getting out of the AFC and being able to potentially get yourself to a
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championship spot. And it's something that again is a pain point for Bills fans.
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And we're going to talk in tonight's episode again within reference to the Kansas
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City Chiefs, but just kind of with that bigger picture and the larger landscape
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of it for this episode in the show, sorry, I was sending a
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text message to my wife a little peak behind the show notes there. I'll
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grab some comments as we started to go through here, Oh kay and Moorey
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coming in saying, with some bright news, the Savers are up five.
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I mean, it's always fun when the Sabers score goals and don't give up
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goals. Comment here from Mark saying I hope Bean has more than a few
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tricks up his sleeve. He'll need to this offseason with the cap space that
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is not available but could be available. What the free agent landscape looks like
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at positions of need. And then the draft with them already having nine picks,
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probably having a tenth, not even probably most likely having a tenth inform
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of the comp pick for Tremaine Edmunds, that pick most likely being a third
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round pick, So, you know, seeing what they could do. They
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have a bunch of Day three picks. Do they stay on pat at Day
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three and you know, look to continue to build upon their Day three success
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in rounds you know, four, five, six, and seven, or
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do they try to package some of those picks, and you know, we
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talked in the last week's episode about the need for them to get better at
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specific position groupings and how this off season really needs to click given Josh Allen's
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contract situation really starting to kick in from a cap hit perspective now going forward.
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So yeah, being needs to uh, he needs to have another you
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know being after dark magic being type of off season for this Buffalo Bills team.
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This is funny from JG saying doesn't matter who wins the super Bowl if
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it's not the Bills are very fair, very fair. Yeah, Oh what's
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up, Joe? Joe says, I show neighbor. Sorry if my music
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is too loud. Sad music is how I forget about my football team.
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Yeah, sports are paying. Sports are misery. I say that for everything,
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and it's with every sport right like, but I think football is just
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so so much more difficult because of the single elimination fashion. There is no
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like baseball bengaling with the major sports Baseball, basketball, hockey. Even if
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like you're a you know, soccer guy, and you know which I am,
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Like, if you're big into the Champions League, at least you've got
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like two legs to try and do something like there's more of an opportunity for
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you to kind of, you know, collect yourself and course correct a little
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bit in the other major sports and turn it around and figure something out.
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But football, if you have one bad day, you're done, even if
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you're the better team, even if you're the best team, If you have
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one bad day, or somebody important gets hurt in practice that week, or
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the weather's really bad, or you have one bad matchup, anything, you
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lose, and you're done. And that's what makes winning a Super Bowl so
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hard. And that's why it makes it even more frustrating to see the teams
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who were able to consistently do it and find different ways to win and get
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those games together and just consistently pull it in, you know, year after
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year after year. Roy, We're taking care of this. Right now,
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Roy says, has the little tree been bad? He's not getting as good
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of a screen showing as his big brother. That's perfect. Shout out to
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my wife who managed to come in and push the little tree back into frame
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for being off screen. No, that's just my fault. I moved it
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over to do some dusting and cleaning in the office and I didn't put it
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back in frame. That's on me. Great job, It's perfect. Thank
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you so much. Shout out to the wife. Fantastic and thank you Roy
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for calling that out. I one hundred percent saw this comment from Roy and
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texted my wife and she came in like the true hero that she is,
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coach b ball or nine point forty two coming and saying the offense has to
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execute in machine like efficiency to win the Super Bowl, and defense has to
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be able to play man and pressure the quarterback. Very fair, very fair,
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some of those pieces that we're gonna get into tonight. While well,
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the Sabers are up seven nothing. Man, I need to oh after being
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up six nothing. Obviously, after being up six to nothing, but when
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I still update there, I just go back to not watching the Sabers.
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Maybe that's the key to getting them to finally win, because they have been
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very very frustrating, very frustrating. This is a good thought here from RJ
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saying, unsurprisingly, Kansas City was the luckiest team of all time, or
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at least since twenty twenty seven fumbles and they recovered six of them. I
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think not this exact point, but it ties into something I think is very
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frustrating when it comes to watching the Kansas City Chiefs. And I don't mean
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this as a knock against the Chiefs, because they obviously are a very good
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football team. They're tremendously well coached. They have two of the greatest coaches
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on individual sides of the ball of all time, and Andy Reed and Steve
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Spagnolo. They've got Mahomes, They've got Kelsey, they got it. Like,
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I don't want to get into how good of a team they are while
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coach. They are schematically and talent wise and all that stuff, But it
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just seems like even when they're not the best team, even when they don't
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execute the right way, they just find ways to win. You know,
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the lagarious need making the tackle on Zay Flowers and then punching the ball out
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from them at the goal line. Even in this game against the forty nine
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ers, like Drake Greenlaw popping his achilles just going on to the field,
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and the fumble on the punt return that you know, Ray Ray McCloud tried
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to pick it up because it dropped from the sky and hit dude on the
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back of his heel. Like all these little pieces that just kind of add
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up to the Chiefs finding a way to win even when they're not. Maybe
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they don't even when they don't have the most talent, or they don't have
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the best day, or they don't bring their best game, they just consistently
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find a way to win. And that's wrapped up in a bit of the
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conversation for the Bills as well, in terms of how can they finally get
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past that team and slay that dragon, even if it's not the Chiefs,
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just get out of the AFC as a whole, because I think with this
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Chiefs when a lot of people are gonna forget how good the Cincinnati Bengals are,
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and I know they have to fix some issues with their team, but
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you know, the Burrow injury, I think kind of put them on the
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back burner. I don't think the Ravens are going anywhere. I know how
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much Bills fans dislike that and the Lamar Jackson conversation and dialogue and all that
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kind of stuff, but the Ravens are a really good squad. The Bengals
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are a really good squad. There's some problematic teams in the AFC, and
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so the Bills have to do their due diligence that they want to get over
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that hump and that is where we're going to dive into this conversation before we
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but you know, going back to him being the defensive coordinator for the Giants
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team that you know, stopped that Patriots juggernaut in their undefeated regular season.
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There is a case to be made for Steves Bagnolo being like arguably the greatest
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defensive coordinator of all time. And I'm gonna get into get me into it
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later with one of my points here, but it's also just extremely advantageous for
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the Chiefs that you have a a offensive minded head coach who is one of
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the greatest offensive minded, you know coaches in NFL history, one of the
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and then he could just check off the box on his checklist of being like,
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okay cool, I checked in with the defense because Spags can just run
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everything. I've talked about it a bunch on this show. Similar with how
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the Bengals operate with Zach Taylor and Luann Rumo. Like Taylor can just sit
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and do his thing offensively because he has a guy on the defensive side of
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the ball who can just run everything holistically and also probably doesn't want anybody poking
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their nose into what he's doing. Like and it's just so nice when you
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are that level of a coach on one side of the ball and you can
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be a head coach and still do that and not have to worry about the
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other side of the ball like Andy Reid does because he because he has Steve
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Spagnolos. So that's a huge point. And again we are going to be
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talking about that. Grab some more comments here. As we start to go
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through here, Joker says, what do you think of that safety from Utah
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on the draft? Which one saoy Vaki or cold Bishop actually out? His
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answered boll, I've watched a little tape of both. Didn't love either at
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the Senior Bowl too much, although Vaki was pretty cool on the second day
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working with like slot receivers and running backs and getting some work there. He
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was a bit of like a slash type of player in high school and even
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a little at Utah as well in terms of oh, I see account that
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their joker Bishop. Yeah, so Vaki does some cool things. I'd like
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cool Bishop. I don't know how successful he'll be the further you get him
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away from the line of scrimmage, but I think he's very much a process
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ye type of guy, you know, who just does his job, does
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the whole one eleventh thing. If you know he was going to be a
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bill you know you're looking at Sean McDermott, you know you cold Bishop,
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you know he does his one eleventh. I just think he's assignment sound,
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he's responsible. Don't think he's like the best athlete or the plus dude,
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but he's physical, he plays fast, he plays under control. At the
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same time he plays aggressive. So there's stuff to like on tape from both
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of those dudes. I've seen a little bit. I'm not completely done with
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my evaluation for either, and have some senior both senior bowld notes for them
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as well. But yeah, there's some things to like there. Uh yeah,
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exactly right. As Kao Morey says, can An NFC team police fire
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and aroumo ins bags, that's even more of it too, Like I don't
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know I assume just neither wants to be a head coach, or maybe it's
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because they're older and teams don't want Teams don't want to hire a defensive minded
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head coach, and they also don't want to hire an older, defensive minded
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head coach. But it's just nice that they just year after year just get
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to stay where they are, and stay where they are, and stay where
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they are. Great comment here from Pete saying, must reload the defensive line.
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Retaining Daque is the tip of the iceberg. Yep. I said it
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last week. It was my biggest point in terms of off season priorities.
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This defensive line is gonna need a lot of attention, going to need a
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lot of focus, and gonna need a lot of retooling, and Bean and
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co Are going to have to get creative in terms of how they do that
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and what they do. I appreciate the kind of words Taylor saying, like
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the stream for the great camp off Bills coverage the pro and I appreciate that.
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Thank you very much, Thank you very much. Daniel Aurie looking forward
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to the Obviouselyason saying to get past case, the Bills need a good wide
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receiver number two, get healthy on defense, get more from the D line,
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O line, stay healthy, Milano healthy, and he we are there.
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That's fair. That's a fair point. So actually that tis in well
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with my first point here, you know, kind of chasing the Chiefs,
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but also just getting over the hump in twenty twenty four. So you know,
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before we get into as we start to get into the individual topics,
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I should say I do think the Bills are close, and not just with
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regard to surpassing the Chiefs, but also just in terms of reaching the Super
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Bowl and getting out of the AFC in general. And I say that knowing
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how they've lost to Kansas City in the playoffs, especially the most recent two
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times, I know the loss to the Bengals the year before, but I
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don't think they're far off. And like I mentioned earlier, when you get
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to the playoffs or when you play good teams in general. I've said so
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much on the show, but margin for air is extremely small. Anywhere from
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two to five plays can decide the game. And it even happens in the
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regular season two but especially in the playoffs. Every play, every penalty,
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every turnover, every drop, every missed assignment or well executed play or poorly
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executed play, everything is put under a magnifying glass and amplified, and it
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just happens to be unfortunately that the Bills have been on the wrong side of
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those two to five plays against the Kansas City Chiefs. And again, it's
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single elimination. So if you lose, you're done. There's nothing left to
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it. No, like, you know, hey, it's game one.
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Will course correct and we'll figure out a way to win this best of seven
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or best of five series. No, if you don't bring your best,
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then the other team does, or you get a bad matchup, you're done.
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It's over, and you're sent packing and looking towards next year. And
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I also want to again I mentioned the Bengals the loss even more so than
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this most recent win against the Chiefs, even the thirteen seconds one. The
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loss that still bothers me the most is the Bengals one, with how poorly
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they showed up. But even that one is a game that had a lot
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of extraneous variables that it's annoying to even talk about an unpack. So there's
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just always all these little things that seem to just get in the Bills way.
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Somehow, Someway. So again, this episode's going to look at several
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points related to how far off or how close the Bills are in terms of
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getting past Case in the postseason and everyone else in the AFC to finally reach
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the Super Bowl under Sean McDermott. And the first point I wanted to bring
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up and great point here from Royan to ties in exactly well with my first
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point, exactly well, ties In, I don't know whatever, I'm tired.
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Being healthy going into the postseason is also important. That's what roy says.
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And that's my first point here, and I hate mentioning it because I
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don't want it to be like a caveat type of point. But again,
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with this loss this year to Kansas City Chiefs, the Bills lost twenty seven
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to twenty four to the Chiefs in a game that also, keep in mind,
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should have at least been twenty seven to twenty seven. Bess makes that
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kick and then you're sitting there making Mahomes have to go do something. Now,
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I didn't have much faith in the defense getting a stop, but regardless
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of that, it should have at the very least been twenty seven to twenty
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seven. Who knows, maybe the Chiefs drive down and win at thirty to
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twenty seven. Maybe they go down and score a touchdown and the final score
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is different. Regardless, the Bills in that game were severely and significantly banged
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up, and they went toe to toll with the eventual Super Bowl winners,
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who were largely healthy and unscathed from an injury perspective. Now, I am
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not here advocating for a silver lining or any type of moral victory. Well,
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I'm not ugh, wow, wow, horrible Tuesday. I'm slurm speech.
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It's crazy. I am not here advocating for any type of silver lining
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or a moral victory or anything like that. But I'm fine with the people
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who believe that if the Bills were healthy in that game, they win that
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game. The only reason I don't just completely subscribe to it is because if
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you replace players with other players, even if you're replacing poor players with better
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players, there's so many variables in different offshoots at avenues. It's like the
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Butterfly effect that movie with Ashton Kutcher, where anytime he changed is anything,
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it drastically changes everything going forward. So it's not a like for like replacement,
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but I think it's a fair point and a fair conversation to have that
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if the Bills are healthier on that defensive side, and I'm not talking about
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Milano and the injuries that happened earlier in the year like with Tray mllana.
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I'm talking just immediacy to that game. If for Swull Douglas isn't playing on
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one leg, if Terrell Bernard plays, if Christian Benford plays, it's just
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a drastically different game on that side of the ball. And even the injury
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to the Tyrrell Dodson, who I know is a bit of a polarizing figure
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still among Bills mafia, even though he played better this year, just so
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many injuries on that side of the ball. And if the Bills win that
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game against Kansas City, even if they lose to the Ravens the AFC Championship,
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if the Bills beat the Chiefs in the Divisional round this year in the
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playoffs, this conversation isn't happening. This episode isn't happening any of that.
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So that's the starting point for everything for me in terms of how close the
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Bills are. A multitude of injuries going back to the beginning of the year,
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right when Milano first went down and then went down and rwell, Trey
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went down, first, Trey going down, Belano going down, Day Kuon
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going down, and then everything that happened going into that into the playoff run
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and in that Steelers game with Benford and Bernard and Douglas and well Douglas happened
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in the week before anything and everything that really impacted them from an injury standpoint,
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And they went toe to toe with the Chiefs again. They didn't fare
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great. They got picked a part defensively, especially at that linebacker spot,
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especially at the second level, like their vulnerabilities were exposed. But they went
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toe to toe and punch for punch with the eventual Super Bowl winners and the
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Kings of the AFC and Kings of the NFL again and the Kansas City Chiefs.
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So using that as the starting point in terms of man and I know,
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this Bills team in twenty twenty four isn't going to be the exact same
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team as it was in twenty twenty three from a coaching standpoint, from a
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player standpoint, roster makeup and construction, all that kind of stuff. The
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Bills barely losing in that game right there, just that's where you have to
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start. And I know it might feel like, well, no, because
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I never thought they were going to win that game. And at the end
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of the day, it doesn't matter if they lose by three or they lose
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by thirty a loss. As a loss, they can't get past them.
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I still feel far off, and that's fair to think that, and I
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understand it. But just using that as the barometer, they're not too far
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off, and that brings me that conversation starter. And using this most recent
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game against the Chiefs in the divisional round brings me to my first point,
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and it's one that is hard to control and it's one too correct for.
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And again, like I said, Roy mentioned it a bit earlier in the
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chat here when he said being healthy into the postseason is also important. And
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that's my first point in terms of getting over the hump. You got to
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be healthy down the stretch. And granted this ties into depth and roster construction
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a little bit, but the last several years or the Bills have just been
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rough from an injury standpoint, this year more so than the rest the Bills.
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And we've talked about a bunch on the show. Everybody and their mothers
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talked about it. This year. The bill has just lost such a significant
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amount of reps in terms of both quantity and quality. You lose Malone for
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the year, you use Dakwon Jones for most of the year, Trey White
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for the year, Bernard in the playoffs. Greg Russeau was playing with a
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banged up foot from majority of the middle of the year. He was laboring
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at different times where Suell Douglas banged up in the playoffs again, that Chiefs
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game, You're watching him trying to run down dudes. He's playing on one
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leg. He's not one hundred percent. He's trying to gut it through.
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And I also recognize that everybody towards the end of the season and come playoff
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time is hurt or banged up in some way. But there's a difference between
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playing hurt and playing injured. Douglas is playing injured in that game. Benford
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is out in that playoff game against the chief Gabe Davis, I know,
22:36
juxta polarizing player as well. Gabe Davis is out. Dawson Knox getting hurt
22:40
during the year, Jordan Phillips missing the back end of the year again,
22:44
having some vulnerabilities there, but was a good rotational player for them, especially
22:47
in a game where you need that defensive line help. With what the Chiefs
22:49
did and with what you were having at the second level, this year for
22:52
the Bills was wild for injuries, unlike any other that the Bills have really
22:56
had the past several years, and even really you know under McDermott and Bean,
23:02
but even if you don't, you know, look back at the past
23:03
this year, when you go back last year. Last year it was Von
23:07
Miller and Micah Hyde and then Daikon in the playoff game missing against Cincinnati.
23:11
The year before that, it was Tredavious White. It just seems like they
23:14
get hit with these It's not oh, you know this depth guy or this
23:18
third wide receiver or their second string tight end or a starter who's good or
23:23
okay, but you know, isn't that important. No, they keep getting
23:26
hit at integral points schematically on this team. They are getting hurt at primary
23:33
positions. And not only are getting hurt at primary positions, but the dudes
23:36
that are getting hurt at those primary positions are really good football players that are
23:40
really good for the Bills and also play very important roles for the team overall,
23:45
and again, the fact that they continue to happen on defense is just
23:48
a little bit ironic. It's hard to win when you have injuries, and
23:52
yes, they're part of the game, but it's hard to win when you
23:56
have injuries. It's even harder when you lose your top guys. It's even
23:59
harder when you you lose your top guys and important positions. And then it's
24:03
even harder when you lose your top guys at important positions and you also lose
24:07
the guys that are behind them. And you always hear that old adage come
24:11
playoff time that usually the best teams at the end of the year are the
24:14
ones that are healthiest. And there's a reason that's a proverbial statement. There's
24:18
a reason that's an old adage, and it makes a lot of sense,
24:22
like sometimes being the best team in January isn't necessarily about being the best team.
24:27
Sometimes it's just about being the healthiest team and having more of your starters
24:32
than the opponent does. And again, I hate to lead off with that,
24:36
but it's so important for the whole sake and crux of this conversation,
24:40
because if the Bills beat the Chiefs, in the divisional round last month.
24:44
Again, this episode isn't happening. This conversation isn't happening, regardless of if
24:48
the Bills lose to the Ravens or not. In the AFC Championship, you
24:52
slayed the dragon. You got past the Chiefs. Now it's like, okay,
24:56
how do we get past Baltimore? Is Baltimore here to stay? YadA
24:59
YadA, so on and so four. It's a different conversation piece if the
25:02
Bills beat the Chiefs. And part of the reason why the Bills didn't is
25:04
because they were playing with a mass unit on that defensive side of the ball.
25:08
Now, like I mentioned earlier, the Bills currently have nine picks in
25:11
the twenty twenty four draft. Should have ten. With the Tremaine Edmunds compick
25:15
that should be coming. It should be a third round pick that brings you
25:18
the opportunity to secure depth in a multitude of positions. Or again, like
25:22
I said earlier, package some of the picks together to secure a higher valued
25:26
pick and with the Bills propensity for finding value on Day three, finding guys
25:30
like Taron Johnson in the fourth round, finding guys like Gave Davis in the
25:33
fourth round Dane Jackson in the seventh round. Even if they just stam pat
25:38
with what their picks are and where they are, it gives them the chance
25:41
to help themselves. But they is so much of it again, and like
25:48
I mentioned earlier in leading off with this point, like some of this is
25:51
tied to depth and roster construction and everything, but at a certain point,
25:53
it's just like bad luck. Like the amount of you know, does third
26:00
teen seconds happen if Trey White is healthy? You know, with how they
26:03
roll coverage in that situation. What does this team look like if Von doesn't
26:07
go down last year? Because again I know what Von Miller was this year
26:10
and what the conversation and worry is for him in twenty twenty four. But
26:14
Von was playing like a stud to start twenty twenty three. He looked every
26:18
bit like the guy that they paid him to beat. And I know everybody's
26:22
you know, kind of using hindsight and looking back and being like, man,
26:26
what a horrible contract. Can't believe they signed Von to that money that
26:30
wasn't happened. At the beginning of twenty twenty three, Vaughn was cooking,
26:33
and he looked every He looked like he was earning every single shekel that Brandon
26:37
Bean gave him, and then he gets hurt and he goes down, and
26:41
then Daikwon's down here already missing Micah Hyde again, all these injuries that they
26:44
continue to have, and I know the Chiefs had Joe Tuney out, so
26:48
that's that's a big loss to them in the AFC Championship and in the super
26:51
Bowl. But having all these injuries just pile up, that's a huge piece
26:56
in getting over the hump in twenty twenty four. This Bill's team is a
27:00
good football team. They are well coached, and yes, I know they
27:03
haven't gotten the job done in the playoffs and they keep losing these big games.
27:06
But the healthier you are, the more talent you have on the field.
27:11
I know that's a stupid ad, and this may be an obvious answer
27:12
to some they'd be like, I can't believe this is the first point,
27:15
but I think it's a basic one that changes so much. And again,
27:18
it changes so much because I'm in that boat with I'm not guaranteeing victory against
27:22
the Chiefs in the Divisional round if the Bills again, not everybody, I'm
27:26
not talking about Milano and Trey and all that. But if Bernard is healthy
27:30
in that game, and Benford is healthy and Rasseull Douglas is healthy, I
27:33
think it's a different Bills game against the Chiefs in that divisional round. It
27:37
was just and there's a JG saying we're also missing the backups to the talent.
27:41
Again, Yeah, that's the huge piece. Like think about that.
27:45
You like, we're sitting here being like, man, I wish Terrell Dodson
27:48
wasn't banged up and Terrell Dodson was banged up because Milana was already out.
27:52
Like the fact that they had a J. Klein leaving family vacation or whatever
27:56
to come start for them in the NFL playoffs is why. Like, that's
28:00
how much you were being tested, even with Benford, Right, Benford had
28:03
a really good year, but technically he's like what CB three on the team
28:08
if Trey is healthy, so he's down, So you're playing with CB four
28:14
in that game because Benford's out and Trey is out, and then Rasul Douglas
28:17
is also banged up, So your own your healthiest corner is CB four for
28:22
you. And it's just all of these pieces that continue to mount and again
28:26
it adds up with what's happened in the past several years. That's a huge
28:29
starting point. And again it was a great comment from Roy, almost like
28:33
you were peeking into my notes before the show started. But you know,
28:37
and and I don't My first point, my main point with this first topic
28:41
is you know, and I don't want to make it seem like you know,
28:45
I'm giving them points or kudos for losing close games. But again,
28:48
the Bills lost this divisional round game by three to the super Bowl champs,
28:52
and again should have tied the game with a chance to potentially win after Now,
28:57
do I think the Bills if the Bill tie at twenty seven to twenty
29:00
seven, do I think that the defense prevents them from prevents the Chiefs offense
29:04
from driving down and winning the game. No, I really don't. But
29:07
who knows. Maybe Mahomes fumbles the snap, Maybe it's an errant snap in
29:11
there in shotgun, Maybe there's a couple drops that happen, Maybe someone else
29:15
fumbles or anything and everything, and Oliver finally wins a rep and we get
29:18
a strip sack, Like, who knows, There's a multitude of things that
29:21
could have happened. I'm not guaranteeing it either way, but they lost by
29:26
three to the eventual Super Bowl champs and should have had it tied late despite
29:30
being played with injuries in that game. It doesn't make the loss better.
29:33
It actually might make the loss even more frustrating. But they were extremely close
29:37
already despite being a mash unit defensively. That's why it's my first point,
29:42
because if they don't lose this game to the Chiefs, this episode, this
29:45
conversation, this entire offseason narrative that will rise and ebb and flow at certain
29:52
points of can the Bills get past the Chiefs? What do you have to
29:55
do to get past the Chiefs? Is this team built for the playoffs?
29:57
Is Sean McDermott a choke artist? What all the different narratives and forms and
30:02
fashions that this loss to the Chiefs will spark and create offshoots? For none
30:07
of it happens if the Bills obviously win this game, and a significant part
30:11
of why they lost that game was because of the injuries. And that's why
30:15
my first point for getting over the hump in twenty twenty four is staying healthy
30:21
again. And it's just so hard to control, like, especially with like
30:22
random ones like Matt mlonald breaking his leg, Like, dude, just there's
30:26
something to be said for dudes who like always have like soft tissue injuries,
30:30
or you know, this guy pulls his hammy every year. It's just how
30:32
he's built, or his diet and workout regimen, so on and so forth.
30:34
But when you have dudes, like when you have like a Tank Dell
30:37
type of injury or a Matt mlonal type of injury where somebody falls into a
30:40
certain way and breaks your leg, it's just man like just makes you feel
30:45
kind of cursed a little bit. Oh, I forgot even this point from
30:48
from John saying, yeah, if Diggs doesn't drop that pass, who knows,
30:52
because you know, if the Bills go down right, if the Bills
30:53
go down there, if he makes that catch, even if they miss the
30:56
field goal there, there's what two or three more minutes left on the clock,
31:00
and all of a sudden, it's not a if Casey gets one first
31:03
down, the game is over type of thing. So it's a different type
31:07
of conversation there. Yeah. Yeah, And Taylor said this is a good
31:10
comment here from Taylor saying thirty one teams lose every year one out of thirty
31:12
two odds to when the Super Bowl is tough Man absolutely absolutely ooh like this
31:18
comment here. Since we'll never be picking in the top ten or fifteen of
31:22
the draft, never say never, no Jinx, but could being give up
31:26
assets to go up and get a wide receiver like Romo duns Josh needs weapons.
31:30
It could. I don't know if the draft calculation of picks would have
31:37
to be, but you could move from twenty eight into the top twenty or
31:41
top fifteen to secure like one of those. If Neighbors falls, or if
31:44
a Dunsa falls, or if you feel particular about Brian Thomas or something.
31:47
I do not, but some people do, you could move up. My
31:51
only concern with that is with what their cap situation is like this year and
31:56
going forward it changes a little bit, But you need to start to hit
31:59
on cost effective talent, and with the multitude of picks they have in this
32:04
draft, I would like to take as many swings as I could, especially
32:07
considering how deep this draft class is as a whole and what it looks like
32:10
at the positions of need for the Buffalo Bills. So you could, you
32:14
know, sacrifice some of those picks and try and get a high value,
32:17
high leverage target in a Romo Dunze or someone, but then you're potentially sacrificing
32:22
some of the opportunities for you to build that cost effective talent across the board.
32:27
But it's possible, and we'll see how far Dunze falls. Picking in
32:30
the top ten would be rough though, or like moving up to that top
32:32
ten, which is round where I think Odunza is going to go. But
32:37
we'll see, we'll see, We'll see Pete saying this is the draft,
32:42
it's just take two wide receivers rather than mortgage more picks to moving up.
32:45
That's the trade off in the conversation that everyone is going to be having all
32:49
year. And you know it correlates well with a comment I just pulled up,
32:52
like, this wide receiver class in this draft tremendous top tier talent and
32:58
also a very deep wide receiver class. So do you want to secure the
33:01
top talent? Is it better to go after the top talent or is it
33:05
better to just stand pat and take as many swings at the well as you
33:08
can because it is such a deep class. That's my thinking conversation as a
33:13
whole, and we're going to get more into it as we go forward in
33:15
the offseason. But I've said it a bunch on the show already, like
33:16
if a specific defensive lineman, then I'm targeting or safety fall to twenty eight,
33:23
or any other position to need. But if again just making up,
33:27
but if Byron Murphy or Cam Kitchens or Tyler Numan are there at twenty eight,
33:30
I'm pulling the trigger on any one of those three dudes, especially Byron
33:34
Murphy. Byron Murphy is my dream target defensive tackle from Texas at the end
33:38
of the first round at pick twenty eight. If he's there, I'm pulling
33:40
that trigger, no questions asked, and everyone's going to say, no,
33:44
you need to take a receiver, you need to take a receiver. You
33:46
don't because the drop off from the receiver that you are getting at the end
33:51
of round one to who you're getting in round two isn't as significant as the
33:54
drop off from Murphy to whoever the defensive tackle you're gonna be able to get
33:59
a round two or three or whatever. The drop off at wide receiver is
34:01
far less severe than it is that these other positions in need. But again
34:06
to other people's points, Yeah, but if this draft class is so good
34:09
and so deep at wide receiver, then that means the top tier talent is
34:12
even better, so you should go out and try and secure it. We're
34:15
gonna do this is a Batman in Joker scenario at the end of the dark
34:17
night where we're destined to do this dance for forever. You're gonna get people
34:22
on both sides of it. It's gonna be a conversation that and talking about
34:24
being able to get past the Chiefs is gonna be a conversation that dominates the
34:30
entire offseason. JGS saying, do we ask Trey to take a pay cut
34:32
or just cut him this off season. I'm not cutting Tray White. I
34:36
know it's gonna be a hard road back coming from that Achilles injury, but
34:39
for me, you can just never have enough corner back depth and talent.
34:44
So having a top three of Benford, Rausseul Douglas and Trey White whenever he
34:47
does come back, I love that. And then having Kyrie Elam will see
34:52
what he does. You know under a die is that new secondary's coach and
34:57
what they do with more man coverage stuff, We'll see. I Kyrie Elm
35:00
can take a turn a little bit and become a legitimate rotational piece. But
35:02
I don't think you can ever have enough cornerbacks and never have enough offensive lineman.
35:07
I would like Trey to take a pay cut or potentially restructure him in
35:10
another way, which we're gonna get into in the salary cap Extravaganza this Thursday
35:14
at nine pm. But I'm not cutting trade for me. I just what
35:19
he means to the team, even just that aside from a leadership perspective and
35:22
am a rale perspective, but just you can never have enough good corners on
35:25
your team. Could coming here from Pete Sand the offense was a foot away
35:31
from putting up thirty one on a defense that held three other teams to seven,
35:35
ten and nineteen and their other playoff games and regulation. Yeah, man,
35:38
if if Allen connects on that second down throw to Shakir, that's also
35:45
a huge piece too. I didn't want to get into all the rabbit holes
35:46
and avenues of that game against the Chiefs. Yeah, but if Allen connects
35:49
with that who knows man, all of a sudden, it's thirty one twenty
35:52
seven, or at least thirty to twenty seven. We'll see if back Bass
35:55
makes the extra point, or even if he makes a better decision on the
35:58
third down, that's the one that bothers me more. Should have had the
36:01
opportunity to make about fourth and one, or if Kinkaid breaks a tackle,
36:05
maybe it's a first down and a new set of sticks. Yeah, they
36:08
they very easily could have had twenty seven or thirty plus on the Chiefs in
36:14
that game. And yeah, it's frustrating. And again the defense was was
36:19
a SIV and leaky throughout the entire game. But considering what they were playing
36:22
with, it's unfortunate John saying, why did we trade a first round in
36:31
the deepest wide receiver class in history? There were four wide receivers to be
36:36
had in twenty twenty for a starting wide receiver at the Bills pick. We
36:38
gave it away for Diggs. I'll say those So this is a conversation.
36:43
I've had a bunch you could have had one of those receivers, and you
36:45
could have stood pat and just taken justin Jefferson there. But here's the crux
36:50
of the conversation. It's the same with the Patrick Mahomes conversation and the Wyatt
36:52
Teller conversation. For me, if you take a player out of one team
36:58
or from one team and drop them into another, there is literally no guarantee
37:01
that they become the exact same player for that other team. Nature is very
37:07
important, but nurture is also very important, and team environments and coaching staffs
37:13
and surroundings go a very very very very very long way in terms of how
37:17
a player develops and how their career trajectory turns out. I do not think
37:23
if Patrick Mahomes comes to Buffalo that year and as the Buffalo bill starting quarterback,
37:29
I don't think he necessarily develops the same way. Everybody forgets about how
37:31
we got to sit that first year and learn from Alex Smith. And then
37:35
again he's working with Andy Reid and b Enemy and Naggy and the players that
37:39
he's playing with and so on and so forth. It's just a completely different
37:43
situation. And the dig situation, because I've heard this a bunch of maybe
37:47
you're not necessarily referring to Justin Jefferson, But you know, I've heard all
37:51
the time we could have just stood pat and taken Justin Jefferson. How do
37:53
we know that Adam Thielen wasn't integral to Justin Jefferson's development and his career trajectory.
38:00
Even aside from that and the other examples we can give for how Jefferson
38:02
developed in Minnesota, the Bills needed a true presence right then and there in
38:08
that season. Josh Allen needed an established, bona fide number one. They
38:14
needed somebody from a leadership perspective, from a work ethic perspective, and from
38:17
a proven on field production and execution perspective. Stefan Diggs gave them everything they
38:22
needed. He helped that offense to ascend, he helped Josh Allen to ascend,
38:28
and also within that was still one of the best receivers in the NFL.
38:30
So, yes, you could have stood pat and potentially taken another one,
38:35
but there's no guarantee that that player comes to the Bills and produces it
38:39
the same way he does for another team. And the same thing with the
38:42
Wyatt Teller aspect. Every says all the Bills could have kept Teller and had
38:45
this all pro guard. Wyatt Teller went to Cleveland and got coached by Bill
38:49
Callahan, who's one of the best offensive line coaches in the NFL and in
38:52
the history of the NFL. So it's also not a like for like that
38:55
Teller stays in Buffalo and becomes an all pro. I just don't think it's
39:00
you know, you pick up this guy out of this team and drop him
39:02
into another situation in scenario and he becomes the same player. You don't know
39:07
if you're gonna have that success rate. Not to mention, I think Diggs
39:08
gave them everything they wanted from that position in terms of production, and more
39:14
so from a leadership and kind of bringing that team up and galvanizing everything from
39:20
an on field and execution perspective. John also mentioned the yeah he traded away
39:23
the Mahomes pick. I don't think Patrick Mahomes becomes Patrick Mahomes if he's in
39:27
Buffalo. The Bills were not set up to bring in a franchise quarterback right
39:34
then and there and just right the ship and stem the tide. Like they
39:37
were not built for them. Even look at what Allen was like his rookie
39:40
year the year after that, Like it just wasn't That's not how they were
39:45
built. It was a very different situation that Patrick Mahomes went into in Kansas
39:47
City versus the situation he was going to be going into with Buffalo. Oh
39:53
jokers saying I want Troy Franklin. I really like franklin speed. He runs
39:57
like a gazelle. It's super enticing. I don't think he's a very good
40:02
or clean route runner right now, and I think there's something wet, something
40:07
to you know, be desired in terms of how he plays from a physicality
40:12
standpoint. But the speed is very enticing, and I think he opens up
40:15
a lot for any offense. I would not be opposed to him coming to
40:17
the Bills at all or any team. You know, if you want somebody
40:20
who can stretch the defense, win downfield, he's your guy. He know,
40:23
he can pull coverage, he can be guys off the line, just
40:27
because of that speed. And then you're banking on the fact that you can
40:30
polish him up. You can build more in his route stem and build more
40:32
in his releases and deception and all that kind of stuff. I do think
40:36
he's more of a one trick pony right now than a complete wide receiver.
40:40
But that one trick is a tremendous trick and it's very useful. And then
40:45
you know you draft him for that, and then have the faith and belief
40:49
in your coaching staff to coach up the rest of the pieces to make him
40:52
a complete wide receiver. So I understand the love for Troy Franklin. There
41:00
oh boomoo, saying hopefully a wide receiver run. Let's get all the good
41:02
d lineman to follow the buffalo. Yeah, give me a run on wide
41:07
receivers, Give me a run on quarterbacks. Give me as many quarterbacks in
41:10
that first round as possible, give me the Big Three with Kayleb Williams and
41:15
Drake May and Jayden Daniels, and throw JJ McCarthy in there, and hopefully
41:22
somebody wants to take Pennix or bow Knicks in the first round or in the
41:24
first half of the second round. Like, throw as many quarterbacks into that
41:30
first round as possible, and even wide receivers. But yeah, give me,
41:34
give me that big time quarterback run in the first please, please,
41:37
please, please, and thank you. What other comments, Right saying rabbit
41:45
holes are like conspiracy theories. You can get really lost, absolutely absolutely absolutely,
41:53
John saying z A. Jones had his best year with US, Right,
41:55
I think his best year statistically may have come with Jacksonville last year two
42:00
years. And I also think you're making a lot of assumptions, saying every
42:02
wide receiver here succeeds usually. I don't think that's necessarily a case. I
42:07
mean, Kelvin Benjamin didn't. I mean, that's kind of like a one
42:09
off, outlier situation in scenario. But I just think it's a lot to
42:13
guarantee, Like, man, if the Bills had drafted this guy, he
42:15
would have performed just as good and been the same player. And I think
42:19
that's the same for everyone, right, Like, I don't think if the
42:22
Jets take Josh Allen instead of Sarrum Sam Darnold, or the Browns take Josh
42:29
Allen instead of Baker Mayfield, I don't think he necessarily becomes Josh Allen there.
42:32
That becomes the same Josh Allen with those teams as he is with the
42:36
Buffalo Bills. And you hear it all the time, like, oh,
42:38
what's the draft adage that teams fail players more than players fail teams. That's
42:45
a conversation that's had every draft cycle, every draft season. And the reason
42:50
that is is because of how important the whole nurture aspect is. Environment,
42:53
coaching, staff, rapport, chemistry, your teammates on the field, off
42:58
the field, everything that goes into becoming part of a franchise. It is
43:02
not the same from team to team across the other thirty one teams that a
43:07
player can play for, So there is no guarantee that if you pluck a
43:09
player out from one team and drop them into any other. Even if you're
43:14
taking him from a horrible team and dropping them into a great team, it
43:16
doesn't necessarily mean that player is going to be on that same career trajectory.
43:21
They could be better, they could be the same, they could be worse.
43:22
You have no idea, it's such. There are far too many variables
43:27
to just sit and expect the same, like for like production and trajectory.
43:31
By grabbing a player from one team and then dropping them into another, what
43:38
else? What else? What else? Okay, what we are saying we
43:45
could have, would have, should have. Got to work with what we
43:46
have. Oh, I'm just gonna grab this real quick from one on the
43:51
next point, zen Clover saying Franklin isn't strong enough, I think for a
43:52
speed guy like Worthy from Texas, I love Xavier Worthy. He is my
43:57
wide receiver four after Harrison and Neighbors and o'doonza, Xavier Worthy is my wide
44:04
receiver for my only concern and not necessarily concern is he is more of like
44:09
a Stefan Diggs type of replacement. You're looking at Xavier Worthy to be more
44:14
of like a slot wide receiver and a ze wide receiver. That guy you
44:16
can put in motion, that guy you can move. I would like them
44:19
to get more of a true X receiver. And I do have some concern
44:23
about Xavier Worthies drops, But man, I would not be opposed if I'm
44:27
sitting there at twenty eight. Even though I really like Franklin's fit and what
44:31
he is from a speed perspective, I think Worthy can also offer you that
44:37
while being a more complete route runner, just how he operates in the stems,
44:40
he can get in and out of his breaks at full speed, he
44:44
can accelerate and decelerate to create deception at the break point and in his stems
44:49
just everything. He does have some drop issues, and with his size,
44:52
height and frame and weight, you know you're gonna wonder about fifty to fifty
44:55
balls and contested catches, and he consistently is going to have to separate to
45:00
make plays because he has had some drops issues and contest to catch pieces.
45:02
But man, I wait, Xavier Worthy is such a really fun wide receiver
45:07
to me, and if I if I had to, like, if I'm
45:08
ranking them, Worthy is ahead, I'm moving too much and making a camera
45:13
got to focus. That's a Xavier Worthy does to me, if I had
45:15
to, you know, from a ranking perspective, Worthy is definitely a head
45:19
of Franklin for me. Franklin's usage and role in skill set fit into the
45:23
Bills offense. That versus worthies is a very interesting conversation from a fit perspective.
45:31
And that's what's so intriguing about Troy Franklin to me, to the Buffalo
45:35
Bills. But if I had to look at him like like for like and
45:37
wide receiver for wide receiver, I'm taking the Xavier Worthy ten out of ten,
45:42
and I'm taking him every single day of the week, twice on Sunday
45:45
type of deal. Like, I think Worthy is a better wide receiver than
45:46
Franklin right now overall from a complete perspective, And I also like how that
45:52
sets him up for success going forward. Could comment, Pete, we should
45:59
all I think we all agree we should have drafted pookin Nakula. Bean stinks.
46:02
One of my greatest, not greatest regrets, but a big regret that
46:06
I have. I was pumped to watch Pookin Nakula at the Senior Bowl last
46:09
year. I was watching Boise State defense tape going into the Senior Bowl last
46:15
year, I was starting with Jail Skinner sermon stage and I didn't like what
46:20
I saw in the first game I watched. It was Boise Date versus BYU,
46:22
and Nicula made like two or three catches in that game that I was
46:25
like, well, I don't like Skinner's tape, but Nikua is fun.
46:29
And so I watched more BYU tape and I liked what I saw from Nakula.
46:31
And he was at the Senior Bowl and on day two he either either
46:37
got knocked on day one or I think he was sick or something, but
46:40
he came out of the locker room on day two just in like in street
46:44
coats. He was wearing like shorts and a shirt. And I was so
46:46
disappointed that he wasn't going to practice on day two, and he was just
46:50
kind of in the back of my mind. I didn't tweet about it or
46:52
you know, make any prophetic statements about him, but I thought he was
46:55
going to be like a dude to watch in the draft. And when he
46:59
went to the rams like, Oh, that's a really cool fit. I
47:01
didn't think he was gonna blow up like he did his rookie I don't think
47:04
anybody did. But man, yeah, he was a dude who I was
47:07
really excited to watch at the Senior Bowl. And I think he was sick.
47:08
I don't think he was hurt. I think he had like the flu
47:10
or something, and he didn't practice on day two and didn't really perform,
47:14
and I was so disappointed, disappointed, disappointed. What a lot the chatter
47:19
is really blowing up? Joey Kamp says, do you think Jackson powers Johnson
47:23
makes any sense for us? If the Bills cut Mitch Morse, which they
47:27
potentially can, because cutting him saves like eight point five million, it only
47:32
has like a three million dead cap hit. If they decided to cut Mitch
47:36
Morris and move on from him, then I think you could see that move.
47:40
And especially because he has that center guard versatility, that's an awesome thing
47:45
to have, and I know Kromer likes that. Chromer likes to have all
47:47
of his offensive lineman be versatile and trained in everything, so he wants his
47:50
tackles to be able to play left and right He wants guards to be able
47:53
to play both guard spot and have a little center flax of centers to be
47:55
able to move to guard a little bit like he tries everybody out at every
48:00
at every position and gets them work at every position so they're comfortable within that.
48:04
I think with Jackson powers, Johnson's size, mental aspect, his football
48:09
IQ, and his athleticism at the size that he's at at three hundred and
48:13
thirty pounds, yeah, I think he would make sense. But only if
48:15
Mitch Morse, you know, goes then I could spententually see him creeping up
48:20
into that that first round piece, aren't you saying? Xavier Worthy would be
48:24
incredible with that speed. Get him in a big wide receiver that plays big
48:28
in this draft. That's the other piece, right, If I'm taking Xavier
48:30
Worthy then or you know, maybe I address that bigger type of receiver in
48:34
free agency. Maybe it's a one year deal for Van Jefferson or DeMarcus Robinson
48:39
or some you know kind of one year, three four million dollar type of
48:44
wide receiver that gives you that X body type physical stature, so that you
48:49
could get an Exavier Worthy who would also long term be a good replacement for
48:52
Stefan Diggs, or yeah, maybe you do get that big receiver at another
48:54
point of the draft or big body piece something like that. Joe come in
48:59
and saying, what if the ANTS wide receiver isn't so much a big body,
49:00
conventional boundary guy, but rather a nice lad from the south. Nice
49:05
play there for Lad McConkie. I like where you Headzay. I really do
49:07
like Lad McConkey, and he has inside outside versatility. He's arguably the best
49:13
route runner in this whole class. Dude just separates. He's a real technician.
49:15
He's a professional route runner. Really high floor. That would be very
49:19
interesting. M hmmmm. Wow. I love all the arguments in the chat
49:25
about wide receivers and all these different pieces. Yeah, funny, funny.
49:30
I'm gonna pull up this common from Zen and then we're gonna move on to
49:32
the next topic. But Zen Clover says, well said Anthony, which I
49:36
appreciate, But I agree we need a bigger wide receiver as well for contesta
49:39
catches and outside stuff. So I'm in a similar boat. But my thought
49:44
that I always push back against myself with is Josh Allen prefers receivers that separate.
49:51
He's not a big anticipatory thrower, and he likes to see guys break
49:57
open and then throw it to them. Every once in a while, hill
49:59
On cork a three with really good timing or anticipation, But usually it's like
50:01
the digs or somebody that he knows is going to be at that spot and
50:05
so he throws it to that spot networks. Usually he likes to see guys
50:08
that separate. Usually bigger bodied receivers are not those big separation type of guys
50:14
like Keon Coleman, for example, receiver from Florida State, big athletic.
50:17
Let's see how we test. But you know he's got punp returnability, so
50:21
he's got speed, he's got athleticism again, the height, the contested catchability,
50:24
the ability to go up, climb the ladder, get it, pluck
50:27
the ball like he wins those fifty to fifty balls. He wins contested catches.
50:31
I like that. I want that for this offense because it really hasn't
50:36
been present. This offense is all the receivers have always been kind of like
50:38
smurfs. They've been smaller type of dudes. Gave Davis was that bigger bodied
50:42
receiver. But he wasn't this athletic, go up, climb the ladder type
50:45
of guy. I would like that piece in the Bills offense. I don't
50:49
know if Josh Allen wants that type of piece, because again, usually those
50:52
guys don't win in the ways that he prefers his receivers to win. Which
50:59
is an interesting point there, but I second that notion. Where elsewhere else?
51:07
Okay? All right? Oh? John coming back like last week saying
51:13
the Oregon wide receiver no matter what. John's son is a big Oregon fan
51:16
and he swears by Troy Franklin, and so John is all aboard the Troy
51:20
Franklin bote. I remember this from last week's episode. I like it.
51:22
I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it.
51:27
Also just kind of like wrap on the little receiver piece for the draft.
51:30
And we're gonna get into this so much on the show as we go
51:31
forward in this offseason. But I think this draft class is going to be
51:35
similar to whatever year the Bills took Cody Ford. And I don't say that
51:39
have to like throw shade at being because the Bills needed offensive lineman at that
51:42
point. But whatever year the Bills took Cody Ford. That was the draft
51:45
with where like McLaurin, Deebo Metcalf, and I think one other receiver went
51:52
in the second round where you had a whole bunch of really good like round
51:54
two wide receivers. I think this draft is going to be solid where you
51:57
are going to get twenty nineteen draft. Yeah, twenty nineteen draft. Thank
52:01
you, Sech I think you appreciate you. Yeah yeah. And Ralph says
52:06
the Washington receivers are all good. Curtis Samuel is also another intriguing piece.
52:09
I would like to see into Bill's uniform, but I think he might be
52:12
too expensive. Ah Aj Brown went in that draft, Thank you, Kim
52:15
warrit Man. That second round was loaded with wide receivers. I think you'll
52:21
get a similar contribution of from the second round wide receivers in this draft class
52:25
and maybe even going into the third like Jaylen McMillan from Washington as a dude
52:29
who I like he could go in the second. I think he might even
52:31
fall to the third. Like this draft class is going to be very productive,
52:35
first round, second round, and third again, productive being relative,
52:39
But that's my reason why I'm not full bore wide receiver in round one type
52:45
of deal, because I think you can get a very good player still in
52:51
round two and or even round three. Again, my dream scenario is Byron
52:53
Murphy defensive tackle from Texas in round one and then Javon Baker wide receiver from
52:59
UCF in round two. But you know, we'll see, We'll see,
53:02
he will see. Oh. I love this comment. Let's go get the
53:07
other Josh Allen. We need defensivelyman, man, I would love to get
53:09
the other Josh Allen from Jacksonville. I just it's gonna be tough, all
53:15
right. I answered this last question, and then we're going for Zach says,
53:16
what about Malachi Corley. I've heard some buzz about him. Big yards
53:21
after catch, dude, good frame, thick, jacked, fast, athletics,
53:25
showed well at the Senior Bowl. Better release package than I thought.
53:31
I like a lot of the pieces that he's that he showed at the Senior
53:35
Bowl. He doesn't have a ton of tape out that I've seen thus far,
53:37
and what I've seen has been kind of men. But I like what
53:44
he brings from an athleticism standpoint, in the yards at the catch standpoint.
53:46
I have to get more into him from like a tape study standpoint. And
53:51
I know a lot of people are like lauding over him now because they're just
53:52
watching his highlights, and his highlights are very impressive. But I want to
53:58
see, you know, what he uh, what he brings, what he
54:00
brings from an All twenty two standpoint, But we'll see. Oh, Ralph
54:04
says he was talking about the Huskies with this common earlier, the Washington receivers.
54:07
Actually, that's mad funny that both Washington's receivers are good. The Washington
54:10
Huskies with O'doonzay Polk and McMillan, and then the Commanders with McLaurin and Johan
54:19
Dotson and Curtis Sanbell even like Diane Brown is kind of sweet. Like the
54:22
Washington's are loaded with wide receivers. Yeah, fairpoint, Ralph. Yeah,
54:27
the Huskies have even Jack westover their tight end. I like what I've seen
54:31
from him on tape. Him and Ben Sinnett, the tight end from Kansas
54:37
State, are two dudes that I like. Ooh, I like this com
54:39
from Black Panther saying, I like Malachi Corley here reminds me of Parrott Pierre
54:44
Garson. Ooh, ooh, that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool, Steve
54:51
said, great minds, which means I have to oh nice, Steve.
54:53
Steve said Byron Murphy round one, wide receiver, round two. In light
54:57
of the depth, this would be the best value you a mere right here.
55:00
Great minds, great minds. All right, let's go. Actually,
55:01
let me put this comment from David before I go to the next Yes,
55:04
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please, please, and thank you. This is a fun conversation.
55:22
I'm excited as always to get I'm excited for every episode on the show,
55:27
but to get more into the draft cycle and free agency cycle going forward.
55:30
Because even just again, like we've gotten sidetracked here in a fun way with
55:35
the chat, but just with how engaging this draft class is, given how
55:39
it stacks up, and given what the Bill's needs are it's gonna be a
55:45
real lot of engaging and fun conversations to be had. Oh, Elvis KUSCHNAULTZ.
55:52
I don't really know what happened to him since he left Jacksonville and went
55:55
to Carolina. I haven't watched a bunch of him. I was intrigued when
56:01
he came out of college, but I haven't really kept up on him enough,
56:05
and I haven't watched tape yet on it. But you know, I'm
56:07
open to kicking the tires on a lot of dudes. But I don't think
56:12
I'm too keen right now, but we'll see. I like this, so
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I like it. I like it all right. Last one here,
56:36
Jordan says Cam Kitchens to Andandre Sweat, Keon Coleman, Troy Franklin are still
56:40
on the board. Who do we go get if it's in the first round?
56:44
Oh? This, Cam Kitchens is my one, Franklin is my two,
56:52
Caw Coleman is my three, Sweat is my four. I could reverse
56:57
Coleman and Sweat, but Cam is my hard one, and then Franklin is
57:00
my hard too. That's a conversation. All right, I gotta stop there.
57:04
We're gonna go forward next piece. So getting over the hump in twenty
57:07
twenty four. First one I mentioned again, which is hard to control getting
57:10
healthy at the right time, staying healthy at the right time. And again
57:13
it's not just holistically across the team. It doesn't mean like everybody has to
57:17
be healthy. But the Bills just need a season where they go into the
57:22
playoffs and their core players or premium position players are not banged up. Just
57:29
give me a postseason where edge one isn't out for the year, or or
57:34
corner one isn't out for the year, or your All Pro linebacker isn't done
57:37
for the year, or you're potentially All Pro defensive tackle. Yes, I
57:40
think Daikwon Jones would have made the All Pro team had he stayed healthy this
57:45
year based on how he was playing, isn't lost for the year. Give
57:47
me a season where your most important players are not hurt. I understand injuries
57:53
will happen, and that's fine. Let them happen to some of the deaf
57:57
guys or a special teamer. No disrespect, and I'm not wishing in upon
58:00
anyone. But step one is getting healthy at the right time, staying healthy
58:04
at the right time. As Pete says here, the Bills just need guys
58:07
to play through broken legs and torn packs. Is that too much to ask?
58:09
I don't get it, just like I don't know, Duck, take
58:13
your legs. Stop being a quitter, right, you know? I just
58:15
don't understand. Although actually no, it was a UCL. The Ala Gretti,
58:19
the guard for Kansas City that was filming for Joe Toney, was playing
58:22
through a torn UCL in the Super Bowl, which I thought was pretty cool.
58:23
Shout out to him from oh I like this comment here from Maria real
58:30
quick. Is it just me or did you get NBA vibes from the Chiefs
58:31
like just play good enough to get into the playoff and then turn it on.
58:34
This may be a way to keep guys healthy. I have compared the
58:37
Chiefs to those Warriors teams when they had KD and Staph and Clay and Draymond,
58:42
where it just seemed like they were dog walking teams in the regular season,
58:45
but it felt very much like they were just like, dude, whatever,
58:47
get to the playoffs and then they get there and bang they turn it
58:51
on. It also helps that they have one of the best defensive coordinators in
58:52
big game Hunters in terms of Steve Bagnola on defense. But yeah, man,
58:59
yeah, the comments from Joshua and Carl just rub some turn out it.
59:00
You'll be fine that I like that a lot, all right. Now,
59:06
next point here, this is a little tied to the injury piece that
59:08
we talked about. So there were so many injuries that affected this Bill's team
59:15
this year, majority of them coming on defense. Starters, important starters,
59:20
backups, backups to the backups, all going down with significant injuries at seemingly
59:24
the worst time as possible. But one unit that was pretty unscathed as far
59:28
as injuries was the Buffalo Bills offensive line. And I think that's one of
59:32
the most important pieces to talk about when you talk about getting over the hump
59:37
in twenty twenty four in a good way. And it's the continuity that the
59:39
Bills have on the offensive line, which is something they have not had in
59:44
recent years. They're even going back as far as last year they signed Connor
59:46
McGovern, But it's like, Okay, what does McGovern look like, and
59:50
does Spencer Brown take a jump in his game to just be more consistent or
59:54
average and not be such a roller coaster And we got a good season from
59:58
McGovern. We got a on roller coaster season from Spencer Brown and the Bills
1:00:02
offensive line in twenty twenty three finished fifth in pass blocking efficiency, which is
1:00:07
wild. They also had one of the best rushing attacks and run games in
1:00:09
twenty twenty three. Offensive lines and good offensive lines and continuity on the offensive
1:00:15
line is a very important team building and team success piece to have in general.
1:00:22
So this is huge for the Buffalo Bill's going forward in twenty twenty four.
1:00:23
They have a good offensive line in terms of pass protection and run blocking.
1:00:28
They have a good offensive line coach with Aaron Kromer. They also have
1:00:30
a very strong depth piece in Ryan Bates. The offensive line is set up
1:00:34
for success now. As I mentioned earlier with that question about JPJ. We'll
1:00:38
see what happens with Mitch Morse. Again. He could be cut to save
1:00:42
eight point five million dollars and a dead cap hit up three. I would
1:00:45
like him to stay. I love what he does from a leadership perspective,
1:00:50
from a chemistry and continuity perspective upfront, and then just his athleticism, the
1:00:55
technicality that he possesses. I know he's not the biggest dude and he will
1:00:59
struggle at time versus some dudes with size, and know the concussion history is
1:01:02
there, but he's one of the best movement centers and dudes out in space.
1:01:06
He's like Jason Kelce light and I mean that as a compliment. So
1:01:10
again, we'll see what happens with Morse. But the Bills have the opportunity
1:01:15
to basically run it back in twenty twenty four with a strong offensive line that
1:01:19
they had in twenty twenty three, and that is extremely important when you already
1:01:22
have a franchise quarterback and emerging running back, one of the best wide receivers
1:01:27
in football, a dynamic young tight end going into your second year, and
1:01:30
then you're also looking to add more weapons in the offseason, having to do
1:01:34
work on the periphery of your team, at the quote unquote skill positions,
1:01:37
at the weaponry spots. It's easier to do that when you already have the
1:01:42
offensive line in place, which the Buffalo Bills do. Now, there were
1:01:46
some concerns down the stretch, especially for me. You know, I think
1:01:50
the right side of the offensive line, Spencer Brown and Cyrus Torrence got tested
1:01:53
more as the season went on. They got worked a bit by two man
1:01:58
games. Some stunts and twists and things caused some problems on the right side.
1:02:01
And again I do think Spencer Brown had a better year. He showed
1:02:05
more consistency in his game overall, but there were times where he got waxed
1:02:09
brutally on that right side. But you know, Josh was able to evade
1:02:13
or it came into Bill's win and so it didn't get talked about too much.
1:02:15
But you saw improvement from Spencer Brown. Also, nice to see him
1:02:19
that or see for him that he was relatively healthy. Funny how I when
1:02:22
to DoD is healthier, they tend to play better and not be awful.
1:02:23
So you know, kudos to him for that. And Ocirus Torrance showed a
1:02:27
lot of promise as a rookie I still think he's gonna have to continue to
1:02:30
work against speed dudes and guys with juice and good get off on the interior.
1:02:34
So we'll see what he does in year two. But in theory,
1:02:37
both Spencer Brown and Osirius Torrance should get better for twenty twenty four. And
1:02:43
so one of my main concerns again for the old line in twenty twenty three
1:02:45
was that right side, how they got worked by two man games and such,
1:02:50
And my other little thing. I don't think any one player on the
1:02:52
Bills old line is all pro caliber or a great individual player, which can
1:02:57
be problematic when you're facing top your defensive lineman and games, or you're facing
1:03:01
teams with multiple top tier defensive linemen in games. But like I said in
1:03:07
the lead and for it, overall, this offensive line is a quality unit
1:03:09
that's well coached. They offer versatility and they won't lose you a game their
1:03:15
sound and pass protection. They can function in zone run schemes, they can
1:03:17
function in gap scheme runs. You can pull dudes, you can run power,
1:03:22
you can run counter, you can pin and pull, you can do
1:03:23
tackle, wrap and dart, which we've talked about a ton on this show.
1:03:29
The biggest concern for me with the offensive line, and I mentioned it
1:03:31
earlier in regards to the injury piece. The bigger concern for me with the
1:03:36
offensive line is again that they went largely unscathed with injury in twenty twenty three,
1:03:40
which is pretty unheard of. They had the same starting group from start
1:03:45
to finish, from end to end. That's gonna be hard to replicate in
1:03:47
twenty twenty four. Offensive line typically gets banged up in some way for every
1:03:52
team every year, and the Bills completely avoided that in twenty twenty three.
1:03:57
And it's kind of like the football gods, you know. Maybe the cost
1:04:00
for a healthy offensive line in twenty twenty three was the injuries that happened literally
1:04:04
everywhere else. But that's my only cause for concern for the offensive line in
1:04:09
twenty twenty four. Like I would like Spencer Brown to take another jump,
1:04:12
I would like ol Cyrus Torrants to take another jump. But even if they
1:04:15
don't, and they just play at their levels that they were at in twenty
1:04:17
twenty three, this is the fifth best offensive line in terms of pass blocking
1:04:20
efficiency, one of the best offensive lines with adjusted lineyards in the run game,
1:04:26
one of the lowest stuff rates and you know, rushes for negative yards
1:04:30
and one of the best power success teams like Eddy Metric any advanced metric by
1:04:34
which you measure offensive line play in the past, and or the run.
1:04:38
This Bill's offensive line was a very strong unit, top five, top ten
1:04:42
at worst, which is awesome to have, considering you have Josh Allen and
1:04:45
considering you're try to add to your weapons. Again, my biggest question for
1:04:47
the offensive line in twenty twenty four is can they stay healthy and avoid injury
1:04:53
like they did in twenty twenty three, which is going to be hard.
1:04:55
But again, it's nice to have a good offensive line coach and Aaron Cromer
1:04:59
to get everybody coached up, even the depth guys. It's nice to have
1:05:01
that depth piece in Ryan Bates that gives you a lot of opportunities. So
1:05:05
we'll see what happens there. Oh. I think it's a question here from
1:05:09
Rev Rev saying how much of the Bills run efficiency would you attribute to the
1:05:13
jumbo package with Edwards? Good question. I liked the addition to David Edwards
1:05:17
even just as a depth guy before the year started. But yeah, that
1:05:23
Jumbo twelve or the heavier, heavy personnel package, however you want to label
1:05:26
it was a nice piece they and I think too, even just from the
1:05:30
run aspect. Their success in it with the run, but then also how
1:05:33
they tied the pass game and play action work off of it was very successful.
1:05:39
I'm not going to attribute a ton of the Bills run efficiency to that
1:05:42
jumbo package, especially because their most successful plays were you know, that tackle
1:05:46
wrap dart play out of gun where it's just a five man surface and then
1:05:50
they're handing off the cook or whoever, those mid zone runs that didn't necessarily
1:05:54
have Edwards in it. But I think it was a really nice wrinkle and
1:05:57
a really nice sub package that team had to plan for, and I think
1:06:01
it was I think it was a kudo to kudos to Chromer and Edwards and
1:06:06
Dorsey and Brady for using that piece, especially you know, Brady leaning into
1:06:11
what more is the season went on. I really like that aspect of that
1:06:14
offense. That's good. That's a good question. I like that. Let's
1:06:16
go back see what comments yep. See, as David says here in the
1:06:23
comments, I'm worried the old line injury luck won't replicate next year. The
1:06:26
Bill should probably take a center or guard who can play center in the draft.
1:06:29
Yeah, it's a little, it's a little, it's a little worrisome.
1:06:31
It's just hard to have back to back years where your offensive line stays
1:06:35
completely healthy, even you know, and I'll even take injury to a degree
1:06:39
where like, oh, somebody misses one or two games, but just be
1:06:42
in the playoffs where your starters are ready and good to go, or if
1:06:45
you're missing one guy, I understand, But I'm just worried that the plague
1:06:50
that the defense saw is going to move to the offensive line and they'll be
1:06:54
out multiple starters for multiple games, or three dudes are going to go down
1:06:58
for the most important game, or just we're just going to see this injury
1:07:01
regression to the mean, which is a scary thing. What yep, Trek,
1:07:09
if we were saying bring back Dave Edwards, I agree. It's also
1:07:11
nice too that he's, uh, you know, traveled with Cromer. He's
1:07:15
kind of a Cromer disciple. He had a good year as that sixth offensive
1:07:18
lineman. I don't know if it was good enough to parlay into a starting
1:07:24
role with a team somewhere else. I would assume he's looking for that.
1:07:28
I don't know what he was told when he was signed, you know,
1:07:30
if it was going to be a competition aspect and he lost out on that,
1:07:33
or he knew what his assignment and role was going to be coming into
1:07:35
the team. But I do wonder if he's looking for more of a starting
1:07:39
role having a solid year that he did, but I would love for him
1:07:43
to come back as that you know, quote unquote sixth offensive lineman. Having
1:07:45
the offensive line that the Bills have with their starters again Dawkins and McGovern and
1:07:49
Morse and Torrence and Brown, and then having David Edwards and Ryan Bates as
1:07:55
your super subs off the bench, tremendous depth on that offensive line. Being
1:07:59
did a great job addressing the offensive line last year, and I hope they
1:08:02
continue to have that health and that depth on the offensive line. I'm also
1:08:08
team draft offensive lineman every single year. Offensive lineman and corners you can never
1:08:12
have enough. So I don't care if it's a Day one, two,
1:08:15
three pick, whatever, I don't care if it's late rounds, early rounds,
1:08:17
mid rounds. I'm taking offensive lineman every single year in the draft because
1:08:20
you always need you always need offensive lineman. Guys already says the offensive line
1:08:27
was decimated in twenty twenty two, so maybe it evens out. Yeah.
1:08:29
I don't know, Like I don't know how the football gots decide things.
1:08:32
I wish I did, wish I did. Yeah, Pete says Brady was
1:08:36
spam in tackle rap. Dorsey did it a bit last year. No,
1:08:40
yeah, in the twenty twenty two season as well. The snow game on
1:08:45
Saturday Night against the Dolphins in twenty twenty two. That game was closed out
1:08:49
by running tackle rap on three straight plays and four out of five with Devin
1:08:55
Singletary. It was just literally tackle rap to the left, tackle rap to
1:08:58
the right, and just rinse and repeat back and forth. It's been a
1:09:00
good staple for them, and it makes sense. You know, when you've
1:09:02
got good, physical, mobile tackles like Dion Dawkins and Spencer Brown, you
1:09:06
lean into that aspect. So yeah, it was a piece that Brady definitely
1:09:13
leaned into and something that Dorsey did as well. It's been a successful concept
1:09:15
for them literally for multiple years now, so I don't expect that to change.
1:09:18
I would like to see some things built off of it as teams really
1:09:21
started to figure it out. Towards the end of the year, really starting
1:09:25
with the Jets in that Week eleven game. Even though the Bills kind of
1:09:30
boat raced them a little bit, they started crashing that front side and really
1:09:32
kind of figuring out what was going on there. The Cowboys are really the
1:09:35
only team that didn't adjust to it, so they're gonna need another answer built
1:09:39
off of that, or another scheme to kind of rotate through which they had
1:09:42
with mid zone and duo. But yeah, that tackle wrap piece was very,
1:09:45
very very nice. Love it from Rev. We have Bates, resigned
1:09:49
Edwards and draft a swing offensive tackle. Absolutely, you can never It's never
1:09:54
a bad idea to invest in the offensive line, never never never never never
1:09:58
never never never never, John saying we had decent depth on the offensive line
1:10:05
as well. It's the least of my worries right now. Yeah, I
1:10:10
agree. I'm just worried about that health staying, but we'll see. Yeah.
1:10:14
So that's a good piece, right and again you juxtaposed with that injury
1:10:15
point that we let off with the first piece. So this is a good
1:10:17
thing to have for the start of twenty twenty four, especially too, if
1:10:20
you're comparing it to other good teams. In the NFL, or even the
1:10:24
Kansas City Chiefs, Like I know Tray Smith had a very up and down
1:10:28
year or not Trey Smith. Donovan Smith had a very up and down year
1:10:30
at left tackle for the Chiefs. He and Jawan Taylor were weak links on
1:10:33
that Chiefs offensive line, but they were so strong on the interior with Creed
1:10:40
Humphrey and Trey Smith and Joe Toney that it almost kind of balances out a
1:10:43
little bit. Like usually the top tier football teams, the best football teams
1:10:48
have good offensive lines, and the Bills are starting to trend in that direction.
1:10:53
And if you can get another year with this group and the chemistry and
1:10:56
report that they have in the execution, you know, it's a fun piece
1:11:00
to have. And Joe says, I'm also worried about Brown in a contract
1:11:02
year and him potentially playing out of the Bills price range. I'm okay with
1:11:05
that, because cool, you can draft a tackle this year, you can
1:11:11
draft a tackle next year. I like what Spencer Brown is and what Spencer
1:11:15
Brown does. I'm not worried about replacing Spencer Brown. I don't think Spencer
1:11:18
Brown is playing at a level where you're like, oh man, how are
1:11:21
we going to replace that hit now. He is a bit of a unicorn
1:11:24
with his athleticism, especially what he can do in the run. He is
1:11:26
a plus blocker in the run game, and I love what he does.
1:11:30
But overall, I think the production that he offers you you can find that
1:11:35
in the draft or even potentially in free agency, although it tends to cost
1:11:40
a little more in free agency. I don't think he's playing at a level
1:11:42
where you know you're worried about, like, oh man, how do we
1:11:45
replace that now? Depending on what he's looking for long term, you know,
1:11:49
you see, you can try to lock him up. But if he
1:11:51
if he's even getting to that range where he's pricing himself out like Gave Davis
1:11:56
for example, I would love to keep Gave Davis. I think what he's
1:11:59
gonna get on the open mark, he's pricing himself out of Buffalo easily.
1:12:02
That's disappointing. But I also think like, okay, you can find someone
1:12:08
else to replace that level. And you know, maybe again, if you're
1:12:11
if you're trying to sign him because you believe he's going to continue to get
1:12:14
better and better and better, maybe he will. That's still an if he
1:12:16
also does have that injury history, so I'm interested to see what kind of
1:12:21
twenty twenty four he has yet if he does price himself out potentially, But
1:12:25
as of right now, I'm not really worried about replacing him given the level
1:12:30
that he's currently playing at. More. If you're paying him more for the
1:12:33
ceiling and trajectory that he could potentially hit, that's fair. But I think
1:12:38
you could find, you know a way to kind of cobble his role together,
1:12:43
either investing in the draft or investing in free agency. Oh I love
1:12:49
the back to back comments that kind of go. Steve says Spencer can grow
1:12:53
and become an even better high stealing guy. And then Roy comes in and
1:12:56
say, why pay Brown after one good year? Ooh thoughts a little bit
1:13:00
opposite thoughts. Oh another time here for we should pay Brown now before the
1:13:02
price goes up, Joe saying it's more so the combination of losing him and
1:13:08
Morson needing to plug two spots on the line simultaneously. Fair. But again,
1:13:12
that's why you draft offensive line every single year, so you have guys
1:13:15
waiting in the wings. So it's like, oh, hey, we have
1:13:17
this fourth round offensive tackle that we think can replace Spencer Brown, or hey,
1:13:21
we took a center in the fourth round or fifth round that we actually
1:13:25
like and we think can start for Mitch Morris. Or we took another guard
1:13:28
because we're gonna put Ryan Bates at center and he's going to be the long
1:13:30
term guy. Like they have options. I'm much more concerned about replacing mich
1:13:33
Morse than I am Spencer Brown, although I do like Ryan Bates and I
1:13:38
would like to plug him in for Mitch Morris. I Morse goes away,
1:13:42
Yeah, asked my thought, oh could come in here from Kem Morris,
1:13:44
saying depends what Doyle and Vandermark can bring. I guess hopefully we don't get
1:13:46
our lower picks poached Tommy Doyle even when he was healthy. I was kind
1:13:51
of mad. Band of Mark is an interesting one, better at left tackle
1:13:56
than right tackle if I remember correctly from the preseason. But yeah, an
1:14:00
interesting piece as well. But again, that's why draft offensive lineman every single
1:14:05
year, every single draft offensive lineman, it is they are worth the dart
1:14:10
throw. You can get guys who can develop, especially with Aaron Kromer.
1:14:13
You take somebody on the offensive line and let them sit just for a year
1:14:16
and coach them up. That's a fourth round guy or a fifth round guy
1:14:18
like who knows, box of chocolates. You never know what you can get,
1:14:23
all right. So first piece getting healthy at the right time. Second
1:14:28
piece the continuity on the offensive line. I think the third piece here and
1:14:32
kind of talking about how far the Bills are from dethroning the Chiefs and or
1:14:36
getting over the hump in twenty twenty four is what you're gonna get from the
1:14:41
coordinators for the Bills in twenty twenty four. So this point, aside from
1:14:45
the injury point, which cannot be controlled, this point, I think is
1:14:49
one that has the greatest potential in twenty twenty four of either getting them over
1:14:54
the hump and finally slaying the dragon or setting them back potentially. And it's
1:14:58
mainly because of the immediacy and the impact of it. We'll start with the
1:15:01
offensive line. Offensive line, We'll start with the offense. What we saw
1:15:05
from Joe Brady in twenty twenty three very encouraging. The layering and the sequencing
1:15:11
for him, those are the words I continue to use every time I talk
1:15:14
about Joe Brady. The layering and the sequencing in particular, both very strong
1:15:18
from him. I liked his you know, ability to incorporate the running backs
1:15:23
more in the past games schematically by designed as either first or second reads in
1:15:27
the progression. We saw what he was able to do with James Cook,
1:15:29
We saw what he was able to do with Ty Johnson. Even like I
1:15:32
still would never have had that on my Joe Brady bingleboard that Ty Johnson was
1:15:35
going to become a factor in this offense. But you know, it was
1:15:38
nice to see some of the things that Joe Brady did, But that came
1:15:42
while running Ken Dorsey's offense. Again, not to say that Brady can't,
1:15:46
but just when Brady took over. We said it on the show A whole
1:15:49
bunch said in the film room with Eric at that point mid season new offensive
1:15:55
coordinator, it is too late to uninstall in offense and installing new one that's
1:15:59
not a possibility. So everything that Joe Brady was doing again it was his
1:16:02
layering, his play calling, his sequencing and different tweaks and window dressing.
1:16:06
But it was still Ken Dorsey's offense. So what does the twenty twenty four
1:16:12
Bills offense look like fully under Joe Brady? What do the Bills look like
1:16:15
in Joe Brady's system, his offense, his terminology, and a full off
1:16:20
season of install and rapport building with him and the players in his system.
1:16:26
Do we continue to see a commitment to the run game. How much twelve
1:16:29
personnel do we see? Who gets phased out of the offense? What free
1:16:31
agents are targeted and brought in? Big question, what happens to Stefan Diggs
1:16:35
in terms of his usage and his role. What do we see from Josh
1:16:39
Allen? A lot of this is tied to Josh Allen's production as a whole.
1:16:44
Josh Allen needs to get back to work when it comes to his mechanics,
1:16:45
his footwork, his arm angles, his decision making. I hope he
1:16:50
gets back with Jordan Palmer this offseason. I hope we see more team gatherings
1:16:55
where he's throwing the dudes and they're working on stuff. I think he's gotten
1:16:58
away from that. These pasts are years and it's showing on the field in
1:17:02
terms and again, you know, I know with the touchdowns and all the
1:17:04
production that he had, but from a technical perspective in terms of playing the
1:17:10
quarterback position, he was sloppy this year. So Allen's going to correct for
1:17:14
so much. Right, you can have the worst offensive coordinator in the world.
1:17:17
If Josh Allen goes out and does Josh Allen things, then no one's
1:17:19
going to notice or no one's going to care because Josh Allen's going to value
1:17:23
out and do Josh Allen stuff. So so much of the same piece I
1:17:27
said with Dorsey too, Like when the Bills offense was struggling under Dorsey,
1:17:30
if Allen just hits like one or two more of those throwers per game,
1:17:33
or the Bills have a couple less turnovers, a lot of these questions and
1:17:36
worries with Dorsey are not a thing, And so similarly with Brady, his
1:17:41
system, his offense. It might be not great, it's schematically, it
1:17:45
might be kind of mad, but if Allen is balling out and doing Josh
1:17:48
Allen thinks, no one's really going to notice and it's not going to impact
1:17:50
them too much. Although again, could it show up come playoff time,
1:17:54
Yes, absolutely so that offensive side. What does this offense fully look like
1:18:00
under Joe Brady in twenty twenty four? Again, his offense, his verbiage,
1:18:03
his play calling. Again, we've already seen him with layering and sequencing
1:18:08
and what he likes to do from an attack standpoint, But what does this
1:18:11
team look like fully enveloped in and bought into his system. On the defensive
1:18:15
side, what does Bobby Babbage bring as first year defensive coordinator for the Bill's
1:18:19
defense. Also tied into that too, A bit of a minor storyline,
1:18:25
or maybe even middle level storyline is how big of a loss is John Butler
1:18:29
to the secondary and the defense as a whole? You would you would hear
1:18:32
multiple guys talk about it in training camp, in the offseason, in mini
1:18:38
camps, and during the season. Rasseull Douglas talked Abottom after his multiple interception
1:18:43
game against the Patriots. John Butler did a really good job with this Bill's
1:18:47
secondary, and I think, you know, a good amount of the success
1:18:49
that we've seen in the secondary and with the corners and the development and trajectory
1:18:54
that we've seen on that back end can be attributed to him. I also
1:19:00
won you know what was he involved with as far as game planning. Usually
1:19:01
your position coaches handled some aspect of the daily of the weekly game planning,
1:19:05
like red zone, third down defense, early down stuff, short yardage stuff,
1:19:10
some kind of something. So how big of a loss is John Butler
1:19:14
I think ties into the Bobby Babbage piece a little bit. But Babbage's track
1:19:18
record, it's been talked about a bunch. You know, what he did
1:19:20
with Hide and Poyer and the safety starting in twenty seventeen, and then with
1:19:24
the linebackers starting in twenty twenty two and this year I think speaks for itself.
1:19:28
You know, Hide and Poyer under his you know, leadership, became
1:19:31
arguably the best safety canem in the NFL. And then with the linebackers,
1:19:38
Tremaine Edmonds probably had his best season as a Bill in twenty twenty two.
1:19:41
And then Milano became an All Pro in twenty twenty two, and then what
1:19:45
Bernard did this year, what Dodson did this year, what Milana looked like
1:19:47
before he went down. You know, Babbage's track record from a player development
1:19:50
standpoint is high and speaks for itself and his ability to help players reach their
1:19:55
ceilings and also raise their floors. I believe had a significant part obviously in
1:19:59
him getting the defense W role. But what does that DC role entail?
1:20:03
Is he calling plays? If so, what does this defense look like?
1:20:06
What kind of sub package juice do we get? What type of personnel do
1:20:11
we lean towards white type of tendencies do we see from him? I know
1:20:14
for many people, Sean mcdee, Sean mcde shaw, McDermott's head could potentially
1:20:19
be on a pike, and it's very torches in pitchforks with anything and everything
1:20:21
that goes wrong with this team. But I liked a lot from what we
1:20:25
saw from the Bills defense in twenty twenty three. And again, like we
1:20:29
talked about in our first point here, that was while missing several important pieces
1:20:32
across the board for a majority of the season, ended big moments. Mcdee
1:20:38
getting this defense the kind of course correct itself and whether the storm after all
1:20:42
the injuries that they had. Again, in terms of quantity and quality,
1:20:45
I think he deserves, you know, some kudos for that. So do
1:20:47
we see a drop off in twenty twenty four, especially considering once everything's healthy
1:20:51
when this season starts next year? What do they look like under Babbage versus
1:20:56
what they look like under McDermott, Because in the beginning of the year,
1:20:58
when they were healthy, they were clicking, they were given everybody problems and
1:21:01
just the turnovers, the how sound they were schematically, just what they look
1:21:06
like from a mindset standpoint and a philosophical standpoint, they were a real treat
1:21:11
to watch under McDermott. So what do they look like under Bobby Babbage.
1:21:15
Again, that's even if Bobby Babbitte is calling plays, but knowing that they
1:21:18
hired Al Hocme to be their linebackers coach, I would imagine that means Bobby
1:21:21
babbageh will be calling plays as a defensive coordinator. But we'll see. So
1:21:26
again, is there a drop off in twenty twenty four? Is their improvement?
1:21:29
What tweaks or changes do we see and are they good or bad?
1:21:32
This also ties into, obviously to the Bill season as a whole, right,
1:21:35
you know, getting over the hump in twenty twenty four, your coaching
1:21:38
staff, your player development, you're calling your layer and you're sequencing your game
1:21:42
planning, all that kind of stuff. But this one is also huge in
1:21:45
direct relation to going up against the Kansas City Chiefs, chasing the Kansas City
1:21:49
Chiefs and getting past them and trying to dethrone them. As I mentioned earlier,
1:21:54
the Chiefs have one of the greatest offensive coaches of all time and Andy
1:21:57
Reid, and they have one of the greatest defensive coaches of all time in
1:22:00
Steve Spagnolo and Spags being there. I cannot say this enough. Spags being
1:22:08
there allows Andy Reid to focus more on the offense and not have to worry
1:22:12
about the defense. There is no like, hey, let me sit in
1:22:15
the defensive meeting room this week and help them game plan because I need to
1:22:17
watch over my DC. No, it's just a simple knock on the door
1:22:19
and be like, hey, Spags, everything going good, all right,
1:22:21
cool, see you practice later. That's it. Andy Reid gets to focus
1:22:26
on Patrick Mahomes, he gets to focus on Travis Kelcey. He gets to
1:22:29
focus on the game planning and the game design and his scripted plays and the
1:22:33
answers and the adjustments and the callbacks, and yes, he's got you know,
1:22:38
he's overseeing what's happening with the team as the whole. But having Steve
1:22:41
Spagnola on that side of the ball, he's got a guy who can completely
1:22:45
who can completely run the defense and does not need him to do anything,
1:22:48
which allows Andy Reid to just focus on gameplay design, game planning, play
1:22:55
sequencing, everything. He gets to just be you know, a mad scientist
1:23:00
offensively, because he's got a guy who can completely run the defense. Also,
1:23:03
you know, if we're talking about their leadership, you know, shout
1:23:05
out to their GM Brett Veach who continues to just build well for this team
1:23:10
and free agency on the draft. I think he doesn't get talked about enough.
1:23:13
But if you're looking at this Bill staff and you're looking at Brady and
1:23:17
Babbage and then Sean McDermott by extension, but you know, just talking about
1:23:20
the coordinators because they're new, first year full time coordinators with the Bills,
1:23:26
it's Brady and Babbage, and then they're going up basically against Andy Reid and
1:23:30
Steve Spagnoble. So you're going up against two Hall of Fame coordinators, two
1:23:33
Hall of Fame coaches. So even if you are good, or even if
1:23:38
you're really really good, you're still probably at a disadvantage from a coaching standpoint
1:23:43
against the Kansas City Chiefs. And that's what it's going to be. Like,
1:23:45
what level do these coordinators play at that you or play at or game
1:23:49
plan design and play call at to combat those guys. So Bobby Babbage when
1:23:54
the Bills play the Chiefs, it's Babbage versus Reid. We think could be
1:23:59
make your still running the show and calling the plays defensively, you know who
1:24:01
knows at this point, but it looks like it'll be Babbage. And if
1:24:04
it is, it's Babbage versus Andy Reid. What do you get on the
1:24:08
other side, it's Joe Brady versus Steve Spagnolo. Now we got a glimpse
1:24:12
of Brady versus Bags from what we saw in the playoffs. And again,
1:24:15
I know the Bills lost and there were some things that could have gone better
1:24:17
offensively, but I like Brady's game plan. You know what he was able
1:24:20
to do on the ground against the Chiefs. It worked well and the Bills
1:24:25
were I don't know, like a foot or two away on that second down
1:24:30
shot to Khalil Shakir at the end of the fourth quarter of putting up thirty
1:24:32
plus on the Chiefs in this game, and again it should have been twenty
1:24:35
seven to twenty seven at the very least. But we'll see ken Brady continue
1:24:40
to do that with his offense or how much does he pull from the Dorsey
1:24:44
offense? Right like him, and it's fine to have faith in him and
1:24:46
think, man, I think this offense is really going to take off with
1:24:49
Joe Brady. I'm excited to see it with Brady. I think it'll do
1:24:51
better than under Dorsey. That's fine, But the point still stands of it
1:24:57
is going to be a new offense for this team and new offense for him.
1:25:00
How much again, is he putting in of his stuff? How much
1:25:03
is he pulling from Dorsey? What verbiage? How much does he try to
1:25:05
tie in? What does he pull together for this offense that is fully his
1:25:10
in twenty twenty four as opposed to him taking over in the interim in twenty
1:25:14
twenty three and still basically running Ken Dorsey's offense. And then Babbite is even
1:25:17
more of a wildcard first time defensive coordinator. What are you getting going up
1:25:21
against the top teams in the AFC, But especially again if we're tying it
1:25:27
back into the Chiefs, who are the Kings of the AFC, Kings of
1:25:30
the Conference, Kings of the NFL, that's what's always going to be tough.
1:25:32
Like, even if you have a really great group of coordinators come playoff
1:25:36
time, you're going up against two Hall of famers who are still performing at
1:25:42
a Hall of Fame level. It's not like Andy Reid and Spags are Hall
1:25:45
of famers, but they're past their prime. Their shelves of themselves. They've
1:25:48
earned their tenure and everybody knows they should be out the door, but the
1:25:53
organization doesn't want to do that, and they can go when they want to
1:25:56
go. No, they're still performing at a Hall of Fame level right now.
1:25:59
So you have to bring your a game and anything that you bring,
1:26:02
anything that you do, they've seen it, and they've beat it on the
1:26:06
biggest stage, on the small stages, regular season, playoffs, super Bowl,
1:26:12
they've seen everything. They beat everything. So how do you combat that
1:26:15
and having a first time defensive coordinator and not a first time OC in the
1:26:20
NFL? Brady was OC with the Panthers for a bit, but having a
1:26:23
first time OC with this team from a full time capacity, full offseason install,
1:26:29
verbiage, rapport, chemistry aspect, I think that's a big one that
1:26:33
isn't getting talked about enough. I know Spags and Reid receive their flowers all
1:26:38
the time, but man, just when you're juxtaposing them with what the Bills
1:26:42
are gonna have at the coordinator spot. And I'm not saying this means the
1:26:45
Bills are dead in the water, the Bills are done or the Bills are
1:26:46
screwed. But it's a huge matchupiece. That's what you're gonna have to think
1:26:49
of going into the regular season against the Chiefs and then going into the playoffs
1:26:53
against the Chiefs. If these teams do meet Spags versus Brady and Babbage versus
1:26:59
read Like, it's that's a tall task for anyone, even if you're a
1:27:02
really good DC or OC. You're going out against two of the best who
1:27:05
have ever done it. And again, you could make the case that Spags
1:27:09
is the best defensive coordinator of all time, which is wild. And he
1:27:12
gets to sit on that staff and just run the defense, which gives Andy
1:27:15
Reid one of the best offensive minds coordinators coaches, however, we want to
1:27:19
label him of all time to just sit back and build with Patrick Mahomes and
1:27:26
man, it gives Reading that offense such a huge advantage because of what Spags
1:27:29
does. And the same thing for Spags, like he gets to coordinate a
1:27:31
defense knowing what he's got on the other side of the ball with Andy Reid,
1:27:35
Mahomes and that whole aspect schematically, So it's a tall task to beat
1:27:41
them because of how good they are in these big game scenarios because they've seen
1:27:45
it all, they've done it all, they beat it all. Yets o
1:27:47
man question here from the chat, Saint Sean keeps calling plays? He was
1:27:53
superb. Yeah, I liked what McDermott did. I don't know if he'll
1:27:56
want to keep calling plays. I think this year was more of him doing
1:28:00
it out of necessity. But I do think this defense was good under him.
1:28:02
So we'll see if he wants to continue doing that, or you know,
1:28:06
we'll see if Babbage is ready to take the reins or how involved he
1:28:11
is. Is it what kind of you know? Is it a fifty to
1:28:13
fifty split, what type of you know? I guess defensive relationship do they
1:28:16
have? And we've also heard from multiple players talking about the impact Sean McDermott
1:28:21
had on them by being in those meeting rooms and running the defense. He
1:28:25
received, you know, high praise from a ton of players across the board,
1:28:30
and the results showed on the field. Again. I know they had
1:28:31
that rough stretch, especially when they were getting like outgunned in second halves and
1:28:35
they weren't adjusting well, but he righted the ship for the most part and
1:28:39
Again, I know the season ended not great and YadA YadA what happen against
1:28:44
Kansas City, But I also think his hands were pretty tied given what was
1:28:45
available due to all the injuries. But yeah, we'll see, we'll see,
1:28:48
we'll see. M M what el going through? Comments here? Yeah,
1:29:01
well off coming in Saron defense is very good in still the injuries absolutely
1:29:05
absolutely, Walter're saying the Dolphins defense was injured more than our defense and played
1:29:11
on the road in sub zero temperature and still forced more punts. No excuse
1:29:15
for that poor defensive performance injuries or not. I guess if you're judging it
1:29:21
by like who forced punts? Sure, but given the nature, and I
1:29:26
also don't know how you're quantifying the Dolphins defense being more injured than the Bills.
1:29:30
They still had Jalen Ramsey going, They had Javon Holland going, They
1:29:34
had I know Baker was banged up, but they had Baker. They had
1:29:38
David Long, they had Christian Wilkins, they had Sealer. They were without
1:29:42
their big ones were Xavier Howard was out. They didn't have Jordan Phillips,
1:29:45
they didn't have Jalen Phillips, and they didn't have Bank ankle, and they
1:29:49
didn't have Bradley chubp So again I don't know how we're quantifying it. But
1:29:54
again Bernard out Millana, well we want to call Malona one, but Bernard
1:30:00
out, Benford out, Rasoul, Douglas playing but not one hundred percent,
1:30:04
day Kuon playing but not one hundred percent. I don't know how you want
1:30:08
to quantify it. But also to considering the Dolphins had starters out but then
1:30:13
their backups were in. The Bills had their starters out and then had backups
1:30:16
that were out and then had backups to the backups that were also out.
1:30:19
So again I think it's fair if you want to go with that route,
1:30:24
you can. I just don't know how to quantify, like their defense being
1:30:26
more injured than the Bills relative to the quality and quantity that was out for
1:30:30
the Bills. And not to mention too like I don't know how much was
1:30:33
the weather really hindering what the Chiefs were able to do in that game.
1:30:38
I think from a sub zero temperature perspective, like it hinders everybody and changes
1:30:43
a lot. Again, they didn't force punts, Chiefs got touchdowns. Chiefs
1:30:46
continue to get like field goals and get stopped a bit against the Niners against
1:30:50
the Ravens, so I understand like the frustration with the Bills giving up everything
1:30:54
they did. I also think the Bills weren't sound schematically in their run fits,
1:30:58
which they tried to adjust and switch some roles and responsibilities in terms of
1:31:01
who was occupying what gap and what they were doing. But the Chiefs had
1:31:05
good answers for that. I think maybe that's part of the reason why Eric
1:31:08
Washington kind of was gonna go anyway. The defensive line performance just was not
1:31:13
up the snuff in that game against the Chiefs whatsoever. But you know,
1:31:16
again, difficult situation. Yeah, Rev comment here I was. I mentioned
1:31:25
this earlier Rev in the lead in like I always mentioned them in Lockstep,
1:31:29
Zach Taylor and lou Ana Rumo in Cincinnati and then Spags and Reid in Kansas
1:31:31
City. Just the fact that Taylor can sit and do what he wants with
1:31:35
Burrow and Higgins and Chase and Boyd and mixing, and then all he has
1:31:40
to do is just knock on the door and be like, Loo, everything
1:31:42
good for the defense? All right? Cool, I have a good one.
1:31:43
See you later, Like see at the end of the week. See
1:31:45
on game day whatever. Yeah, just like this comment here from Oloff saying
1:31:49
maybe if kin Kid breaks out, the Bills offense becomes next level. It
1:31:54
could. When you have a truly dynamic tight end, it opens up a
1:31:58
lot for your offense. And that's just especially one who can do it in
1:32:05
the run in the past. Like I gravitate more towards those type of dudes,
1:32:11
So the Gronks, the Kittles, Sam Laporta. I had Sam Laporta
1:32:15
ranked ahead of Dalton Kinkaid this past year in the draft, mainly just personal
1:32:19
preference. I like dudes who can do it in the past and as a
1:32:23
blocker, not thinking Kaid is a poor blocker, but I just think he
1:32:26
thought he needed more work there and more development there, but he's a better
1:32:30
receiver. Yeah, it just forces your hand a lot schematically. I do
1:32:32
think he needs to continue on that trend of being good as a blocker in
1:32:36
the run in the past to truly put defenses into binds and figuring out,
1:32:43
Okay, what do we have to match, what personnel are we going with?
1:32:46
Do we have to go with a subpackage? Are we going with base?
1:32:48
How do we choose to defend Dalton kin Kaid, because then that ties
1:32:51
into what coverages you can play, how you fit the run, so on
1:32:56
and so forth. That's really where you take advantage of his skill set is
1:33:00
by forcing teams into that bind. You can only force them into that bind
1:33:03
if he's a you know, a capable blocker, which he showed in his
1:33:06
rookie year, and I think he'll continue to get better there. If not,
1:33:10
then you have to hope that his trajectory just follows this receiver heavy path
1:33:16
like a Travis Kelcey, And that's just hard to do. Like there has
1:33:19
been a tight end like Travis Kelcey who was just such a pure receiving threat
1:33:25
that you could have him be your ex receiver assessional essentially and just went on
1:33:30
the outside or put him in motion and do whatever the hell you want,
1:33:32
whenever the hell you want. It's so hard to be that in that spot
1:33:40
and not like to just expect him to hit the Travis kelce trajectory or ceiling
1:33:46
as a pass catching tight end is hard. But I think if he continues
1:33:50
to progress as a blocker man, you're gonna see a lot of a lot
1:33:55
of schematic problems being caused for defenses Walter, saying, well, green to
1:34:00
disagree, then that's fair. I think missing your top I don't know tw
1:34:04
is or your top two pass rusher CB two and banged up LB's is more
1:34:09
impactful than us missing our two LB's. But also too, you're not just
1:34:13
missing the CB. Well, if you're gonna do all of the injuries,
1:34:15
then that the Bills are missing. So the Bills are missing Trey White,
1:34:17
the Bills are missing Christian Benford. They're playing with a shell of Rasoul Douglas.
1:34:21
You're missing your top two linebackers. Terrell Dodson is also playing banged up.
1:34:28
Leonard Floyd was banged up, and Daikwon Jones was not one hundred percent
1:34:31
healthy. So that's eight then, and I don't know. So then they're
1:34:35
two, three, four or five. I don't know. Is it like
1:34:40
eight versus five? Is it seven versus six? I don't know how to
1:34:44
like quantify, And I think at the very least, again, I think
1:34:46
they're very close. And I also think the weather aspect changes a lot like
1:34:49
it's not it's not a like for like scenario with the weather that the Bills
1:34:55
are playing and that sub zero temperature affects both offenses significantly, and so I'm
1:35:00
just not going to compare like for like. Again, I know dolphins,
1:35:03
you know, if they force more punts, cool, and if that's how
1:35:05
you're judging that success piece, But I just don't think it's a like for
1:35:10
like giving the temperatures. And I also don't know how to quantify their injuries
1:35:14
more than the Bills, or even the Bills more than Miami's. And the
1:35:18
Bills are banged up at significant spots across the board. But you know,
1:35:23
it is what it is, all right, last piece here, getting over
1:35:29
the hump in twenty twenty four. This is a little tied to Josh Allen
1:35:31
and also tied to the entire roster as a whole. I just titled it
1:35:36
your top dude showing up when it matters most and or getting more top dudes.
1:35:43
So this team, I know this gets said all the time, this
1:35:45
team, good or bad, will go as far as Josh Allen takes them.
1:35:47
I understand that notion. I understand that sentiment. However, for me
1:35:50
at least, and I think it's shown in the tape, it's shown in
1:35:55
the results. I think Josh Allen's game is too volatile to be able to
1:36:00
just rely on him to drag you to victory in a playoff run. And
1:36:03
I think that can really be said for most quarterbacks. It's a lot to
1:36:06
just be like, well, we'll just put it on the shoulders of this
1:36:10
guy and we'll see what happens. Like that's a hard thing to do in
1:36:14
general. But what's also tough is his play style and how he swings that
1:36:20
pendulum. It makes having to solely rely on him, or expecting him to
1:36:26
be that sole driving factor even a little tougher. So this isn't to say
1:36:30
you can't win with him, just that his play style makes it hard at
1:36:33
times because of the variance he plays with, and in a single elimination playoff
1:36:38
format, all it takes is one poor swing of the pendulum from Josh Allen
1:36:42
and you're done, Which also ties back to point one that we talked about
1:36:46
here, where a bunch of the Bill's best players from a quality and quantity
1:36:49
perspective in twenty twenty three missed that playoff game against the Chiefs in that division
1:36:55
round, or they were playing and were shells of themselves, and we're you
1:36:59
know, playing but a man not healthy as well. I forgot about Jordan
1:37:01
Phillips who Wilson missed that Chiefs game as well. Man, they just had
1:37:04
so many dudes that were out for that game. There's no page there.
1:37:11
It is so the point this point here for me. It also ties to
1:37:15
something I talked about in an episode last offseason in regards to hitting on more
1:37:18
of your day two picks, you know, those day two bicks being rounds
1:37:20
two and three, in order to have more higher end talent on the roster.
1:37:25
The Bills have hit on Day three and been relatively very successful compared to
1:37:30
the league with what they've hit in the being era. Dane Jackson, Gabe
1:37:31
Davis, Khalios Shakir Christian benferd Balen Spector, Tyler Bass, Taron Johnson day
1:37:38
three guy, those are all hits in that Day three aspect given being able
1:37:43
to make the team, fulfilling a role, becoming a low end starter,
1:37:45
becoming a higher end all pro starter, even like Taron Johnson. But hitting
1:37:49
on those guys is different than the Bengals, for example, hitting on their
1:37:56
Day two guys like Logan Wilson, Jermaine Pratt, Jesse Bays, Sam Hubbard,
1:38:00
t Higgins, especially umtaposing that with all the misses that the Bills have
1:38:03
had on Day two. And that's just one a little example or a nice
1:38:08
Michael cosm of the point that I'm trying to make, and that point is
1:38:13
you either need game changing impact players or you need quality Tier two and Tier
1:38:18
three dudes across the board as much as possible. You either need several A
1:38:24
plus dudes, ideally at premium positions, or you need a whole bunch of
1:38:28
bs and B pluses everywhere. Now what it means, you're twenty twenty four.
1:38:32
It's gonna be hard to get A plus guys as rookies or in free
1:38:34
agency this offseason given what the Bills cap situation is. So I don't know
1:38:39
how much pendulum swinging will happen in that regard this offseason, but you know,
1:38:43
using twenty twenty three as an example, the twenty twenty three Bills had
1:38:45
three A plus guys going into the season for me, Josh Allen, Stefon
1:38:50
Diggs, Matt Malano. Like I mentioned earlier, I think Daikwon Jones was
1:38:54
on an all pro track and trajectory before he went down, So I'm gonna
1:38:58
include him in there and say he was playing like A plus dude before he
1:39:00
went down, So that gives you four. Two of those four went out,
1:39:04
so while you had left with Stefan Diggs and you had Josh Allen,
1:39:08
so two of the four A plus dudes went down for a majority of the
1:39:11
year. And again, like I mentioned with day kuon him playing against Kansas
1:39:14
City, I don't know how you know, quote unquote healthy he was coming
1:39:16
back from that tour Peck then torn Peck. Then on top of that,
1:39:20
like we've said so many times, they lost some B plus dudes and some
1:39:25
B dudes, and suddenly you're fighting a battle against the Chiefs and against other
1:39:29
teams with depth players and or depth players to those depth players because your second
1:39:35
stringer goes down, your third stringer goes down, and now you're playing with
1:39:39
you know, guys who just came off of vacation. Like aj Klein point
1:39:43
is, I think they need more it's twofold here. They either need more
1:39:47
top end talent to fight the Chiefs and not just the Chiefs but other top
1:39:51
tier teams in the NFL. They need more B plus and above guys to
1:39:56
be able to fight fire with fire versus the best teams in the league,
1:40:00
and or swing the pendulum in their favor versus the Chiefs with Mahomes and Reed
1:40:04
and Spags and their strong core of B plus and above guys, or the
1:40:08
Ravens or the Bengals kind of insert any team there. But the Chiefs are
1:40:12
the champs. They continue to be this dragon the Bills cannot vanquish. So
1:40:15
that's why they're using this example. And then when the Bills do have that
1:40:19
talent again, like I said, this whole topic being you know, getting
1:40:24
more top dudes, but also your top dudes showing up when you do have
1:40:28
that talent, that talent needs to show up, you know, just going
1:40:30
with the low hanging fruit example, Ed Oliver was put in hell by Joe
1:40:35
Tooney in that game against the Chiefs, and he was largely non existent.
1:40:39
And that happening while Greg Russou also being relatively quiet is a problem. Although
1:40:45
I did charge something very interesting after the Bills Chiefs game, like the only
1:40:50
two of the Chiefs successful runs were run to Greg Russo's side, and when
1:40:57
they were run to his side, they were even cut back up the middle,
1:41:00
so I forget how many they had, but all of the Chiefs run
1:41:04
successful runs except for two, came with Greg russo either off the field or
1:41:10
run away from him. So the Chiefs also mitigated him a bit in terms
1:41:14
of kind of running away from him or you know, not running into him
1:41:16
as much. But is an interesting point as well. So when you have
1:41:21
those top dudes, they have to show up, and I think that's been
1:41:24
a problem for this team, tying into the injuries as well. You know
1:41:30
you're one of your top dudes. A couple of years ago in the thirteen
1:41:31
seconds game, is Trey White cool, he's not there. You bring in
1:41:33
Von Miller as a top dude to try and take you over the top.
1:41:36
He goes down. Mikel Hyde is one of your top dudes, he goes
1:41:39
down. But when you have the talent that's there, even if other dudes
1:41:43
around them are hurt, that talent needs to show up. And so again
1:41:45
this Chiefs game in twenty twenty three in the division rounds a good example.
1:41:47
You know, Ed Oliver kind of gets a race by Joe Toney and that
1:41:50
also happens while Greg russoe is quiet. So those are two of your top
1:41:55
dudes in that game, guys that you look to to lend support to your
1:42:00
A plus guys and they're not having that game. And also, you know,
1:42:04
in that game, Michae Hyde and Jordan Poyer are kind of quiet and
1:42:08
or ineffective. Although that Poyer punch out on Mi Cole Harbon was awesome after
1:42:12
he chased down pa check out even forced that situation. And I say it
1:42:15
all the time on the show. You can win with talent or you can
1:42:17
win with scheme. But for me, at least, despite being one of
1:42:20
the best teams in the NFL the past several seasons, which the Bills have
1:42:24
been despite you know, four straight AFC East titles to spent or just spent,
1:42:30
despite multiple you know, Final four appearances in the AFC, I don't
1:42:34
think the Bills have been one of the most you know, quote unquote talented
1:42:38
teams. I think they've definitely been a quality team, but I think they've
1:42:41
been a quality team that's been more some of its parts than individual standouts.
1:42:46
And I think it's it's been a team, and I'm fine with this because
1:42:48
I like building my team this way. I think they've been a team with
1:42:50
more B pluses and A minuses more than anything else. And the years where
1:42:56
you've had the chance for all of those parts to come together the time a
1:43:00
been off. Trey White goes down, Micah High goes down, Jordan Poyer
1:43:02
gets hurt and is playing banged up. Von goes down, Alan gets banged
1:43:06
up, Milano goes down, Cole Beasley gets hurt, Daikwon Jones, all
1:43:11
of these pieces, it seems like that timeline kind of never never meshes well
1:43:15
with what they have. But that's been a huge piece that prevents this team
1:43:21
from not getting over the hump. If you look at the Kansas City Chiefs,
1:43:26
right so, you know they're big three Mahomes, Kelsey Jones. They
1:43:30
show up every single game pretty much no matter what the Bills have games where
1:43:36
Alan sometimes doesn't show up, Digs sometimes doesn't show up. And then even
1:43:41
aside from that, right because those are the Chiefs, you know, three
1:43:43
top tier dudes, and the Bill's top tier dudes are Alan and Diggs.
1:43:46
But then if you go across from that, like Lugarius Needs showed up each
1:43:50
game, McDuffie showed up each game, Justin Reid shows up more often than
1:43:56
not. Mike Edwards is doing his thing, Kamari Connor is a rookie doing
1:44:00
his thing. Drew Tranquill is doing this thing, Carl Loftis will play well.
1:44:02
And if Carloftis isn't having a game, Charles and Menahue was having a
1:44:06
game. If Tranquill's not doing anything, Nick Bolton is making a play.
1:44:10
If Bolton wasn't making a play, Willie Gay is going to make a play.
1:44:12
Like they have this. They have their guys who usually step up,
1:44:16
and if one of them doesn't, someone else does. And the Bills have
1:44:20
not gotten into that sweet spot and not gotten in that rhythm of their core
1:44:28
guys or they're needed guys, their top guys. They haven't gotten into that
1:44:31
rhythm where their top guys show up or if they don't, someone else steps
1:44:36
up for them. They haven't had that game where you know Ed Oliver doesn't
1:44:40
have it today, but you know Tim Settle, he went off today and
1:44:44
had a great game. You know Greg Russo didn't show up today. But
1:44:46
aj Avanessa had three sacks and kind of balled out and had all these pressures
1:44:49
so on and so forth. Or when they do have them, they're not
1:44:51
coming in these big moments. They're not coming in these playoff games, or
1:44:56
at least coming against the Chiefs, like you're having that lack of top dudes
1:45:00
showing up and it's impacting this team. And I think largely some of that
1:45:04
is just bad luck, right, Like sometimes dudes have bad games. Sometimes
1:45:08
it's a bad matchup. And again in the case of d Oliver going up
1:45:11
against the Chiefs, he was up against Joe Toney, all pro left guard,
1:45:15
one of the best guards in the entire NFL, and Tony got the
1:45:17
better of them. Ed gave Tony some problems in the previous two matchups when
1:45:21
they played against the Chiefs, but Tony just got him on the stage and
1:45:24
absolutely dominated him. Sometimes you get got but then if Ed's getting got,
1:45:29
okay, someone else has to win. Maybe Jordan Phillips would have helped if
1:45:31
he was in there. Maybe if Daikwan's one hundred percent, you know,
1:45:34
we see a different effort at that spot on the interior. But I think
1:45:40
that's what that piece is, is just not having too many guys not step
1:45:47
up together and having too many guys go absent. And usually it's those top
1:45:51
tier dudes that are going absent. But then also no one else is stepping
1:45:55
up and kind of making a play for them or doing something for them to
1:45:58
kind of mitigate that lack of that top tier dude stepping up, and that's
1:46:01
our hard thing to correct for, because how do you correct for that?
1:46:03
Do you go out and you get better players? Is it a coaching piece?
1:46:06
Is it the player piece? Is it? Are they banged up or
1:46:10
they're hurt and we don't really know about it. Are they too worn down
1:46:13
from the season? Is it a workload issue. There's a multiple reasons or
1:46:15
multiple variables and reasons as to what as to why we're seeing that and in
1:46:20
terms of like what we're seeing and why that's manifesting on the field. But
1:46:25
at the end of the day, the Bills have just had too many losses
1:46:28
where you are wondering, oh, hey, like where were so and so
1:46:33
today, or how come we didn't see more from this guy today? And
1:46:38
it's just been unfortunate and for a team that isn't laiden with top tier talent.
1:46:44
And I th again, I think the Bills are a very good team.
1:46:45
I don't want to make it seem like they're not, but they're not
1:46:47
this team that's loaded with all pro dudes and loaded with these household names.
1:46:53
So the dudes that you do have, they've got to step up because when
1:46:58
you're in the playoffs against the Chiefs or against the Bengals or against the Ravens,
1:47:02
you're going up against teams with multiple all pros, with multiple household names.
1:47:06
So your guys have to step up and kind of mitigate those dudes,
1:47:11
and if they don't, someone else has to step up and mitigate those dudes.
1:47:14
And you're just not getting You're not getting enough from the entire cast.
1:47:21
I think it's like the best way to put it, there's too many guys
1:47:25
going absent and not enough guys stepping up. And again, it's hard to
1:47:30
get everybody to kind of find that sweet spot and find that rhythm where you
1:47:33
get everybody clicking. And again, so much of it is matchup base right
1:47:36
if you are playing if you're playing better teams with better players, that's tough.
1:47:44
You know. Sometimes it's what's the statement, It's not X's and O's,
1:47:47
it's the Jimmy's and Joe's. I think a lot of times, and
1:47:49
the Bills have gone into the playoffs against the Chiefs or against the Bengals like
1:47:55
their Jimmy's and Joe's don't necessarily stack up with the other teams, as Jimmy's
1:47:58
and Joe's. Think if I said that correctly, and the Bills Jimmy's and
1:48:02
the Bills Joe's have not balled out like the opponents have, or they're Jimmy's
1:48:06
and Joe's that you want to rely on. For the Bills, they're hurt
1:48:10
or they're injured, or they're completely out, or they're playing but they're not
1:48:12
ready to go, and they're not they're going, but they're sixty percent,
1:48:15
they're gutting it out. It's just been this rotating door of guys not stepping
1:48:21
up, guys behind them not stepping up. Somebody, you know, somebody
1:48:27
that you need to have a good game from, doesn't have a good game
1:48:30
and nobody steps up to kind of make the difference, or there's too many
1:48:32
injuries in that position for anyone to make a difference. Or player A has
1:48:35
been balling out all year and now he's out and doesn't play, or he's
1:48:40
too hurt and he's a shell himself. It just seems like all these kind
1:48:43
of rotating door of injuries or poor play or poor execution or poor design.
1:48:49
At the end of the day, though players are on the field, the
1:48:51
players make the plays. If the Bills are healthier come playoff time. I
1:48:57
think a lot of this kind of not solves itself, but it helps significantly.
1:49:01
I don't want to sit there and say, you know, if the
1:49:04
Bills are healthy, their top guys are automatically going to step up, you
1:49:08
know, because again not to keep harping on them, because I think ed
1:49:10
Oliver had a tremendous twenty twenty three, but I think ed Oliver was largely
1:49:14
healthy going into that playoff game against Kansas City and you just didn't see what
1:49:18
you needed to see from Ed Oliver. And again that's just one example,
1:49:20
but I think if they are healthier as a team, then you have more
1:49:27
of your B plus guys ready to go. You have more of your B
1:49:29
guys and your A minus guys. And if you have that, that gives
1:49:31
you more rotation capabilities. It gives you more of an ability to play matchups
1:49:35
and do those types of things without having that significant drop off. But at
1:49:39
the end of the day, the Bills dues needs to show up, and
1:49:45
that's kind of getting them a little bit like there you just know week in
1:49:47
and week out and come those big game moments that their dudes kind of disappear
1:49:55
a little bit, and it's tough to just point it into one thing.
1:49:58
Like I'm not gonna sit here and say, like, it's the players and
1:50:00
they suck and they're not doing enough. I'm also not gonna sit here and
1:50:01
say it's the coaches. The coaches aren't doing it, they're not putting them
1:50:04
in positions to see. It's a combination of multiple things, which is why
1:50:08
it's so frustrating, which is why I'm not going to sit here and say,
1:50:12
you know, here's the one solution, because I don't think it's a
1:50:15
one solution thing. It's a complicated issue which requires a complicated solution. But
1:50:19
I think the easiest way to mitigate that, or try and avoid your top
1:50:24
dudes disappearing or your top guys not stepping up, is to get more top
1:50:28
guys, to get more B pluses or hopefully land yourself some as or A
1:50:33
or A plus dudes, or just stay healthy. Right, if you can't
1:50:38
make your roster better, you have to make sure your guys that are good
1:50:42
stay healthy. And it just seems like the Bills can never get in that
1:50:45
right rhythm in terms of their good dudes play well or their good dudes play
1:50:49
well, and then they get hurt, or they disappear, or they're out,
1:50:53
or they're playing banged up. There's all of these pieces that just seem
1:50:57
to not fall in their favor. I think a lot of it, a
1:51:00
lot of the things we talked about in this episode kind of stems into that
1:51:01
number one point of just being healthy at the right time. If that happens,
1:51:06
it tends to mitigate or at least give you a better floor in terms
1:51:11
of removing variables, kind of putting you at an even position to evaluate and
1:51:16
kind of see what's going on. But all in all, I don't think
1:51:23
I don't think this Bills team is far off. Again. I know the
1:51:26
loss of the Chiefs and the playoffs was ugly. I know it was less
1:51:28
than ideal, but given what they were working with, like the fact that
1:51:32
they lost by three and again, it shouldn't have. At the very least,
1:51:39
we should have seen Mahomes with the ball going down to either get the
1:51:44
Chiefs to kick a game winning field goal or have to score a touchdown to
1:51:46
go up ahead of the Bills. So this team just so perplexing year after
1:51:53
year. Man with the waight that with how they find ways to lose with
1:51:57
how things fall apart at the wrong time, either execution wise or player wise,
1:52:00
or coaching wise or health wise. Like it's so frustrating to watch them
1:52:05
year in and year out. But I don't think I don't think this team
1:52:11
is far off and it's just gonna come down to one of these years can
1:52:15
they win those two to five plays that make a difference against the Chiefs or
1:52:19
against the Ravens. But it seems like for whatever reason, they are destined
1:52:24
to do this dance with the Chiefs every single year, and with the run
1:52:27
that the Chiefs are on, at some point you're gonna have to face them.
1:52:30
So if you face them in the wildcard, or you face them in
1:52:32
the divisional round, or you face them in the AFC Championship, you're gonna
1:52:36
have to face them. Like the AFC is going to continue to go through
1:52:39
the Kansas City Chiefs for as long as Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, and
1:52:43
Steve Spagnolo are there. Maybe somebody takes them out at some point, and
1:52:46
if you're the Bills, you go a playoff run without having to play the
1:52:49
Chiefs, you potentially see what happens. But at some point you're going to
1:52:53
have to go through the Kansas City Chiefs and the playoffs, which is how
1:52:56
this continues to look. It looks like at the very least, they're making
1:52:59
the play laffs every year. They're probably went in their division every year.
1:53:01
Cool, can you get home field advantage? Cool? Does that even matter?
1:53:04
Because they went on the road in Buffalo and went on the road in
1:53:08
Baltimore and won both. They're just a good football team. And again,
1:53:13
like I said, it's not just about Kansas City, although I know how
1:53:15
I made the graphic and titled this episode, but I'm just using him as
1:53:17
kind of like the torch bearer and the standard for the AFC in the NFL
1:53:20
obviously because they won the Super Bowl. But you know, in order to
1:53:24
get over this hump, whether it's Kansas City in particular, or it's just
1:53:28
getting out of the AFC, or it's just getting past a healthy Bengals team
1:53:31
or the Ravens if you play them, or I don't know what retold Miami
1:53:35
team, or we'll see what the Houston Texans become as they get another year.
1:53:40
What does your two Tank Dell look like? What does your two CJ.
1:53:43
Stroud look like? What does this offense look like with Nico Collins and
1:53:45
another year with Slowick and Will Anderson does he take a jump? And Derek
1:53:49
Stingley, you know, getting another full year, what does he look like
1:53:53
in year three? And they have money? And what do they do in
1:53:55
the draft? Like getting past anybody and just getting out of the afcbviously,
1:54:00
again using the Chiefs as that standard and that example. In order to do
1:54:03
that, all these things do need to kind of mesh up or mesh and
1:54:08
match up. For the Bills, you need to get healthy at the right
1:54:11
time and be healthy come playoff time. Again, having continuity on the offensive
1:54:15
line will put them in good position to get over the hump in twenty twenty
1:54:17
four. What you get from the offensive and defensive coordinators, you know,
1:54:20
new staff in this upcoming season. How much does that narrow the gap or
1:54:26
push you over the hump or does it set this team back and not work
1:54:29
out in the way that you wanted it to. And then at the end
1:54:31
of the day, Yeah, your top dudes showing up and being those top
1:54:34
dudes, and if they don't, do you have someone else who can step
1:54:39
up? If you have a plus guys, they have to play like a
1:54:42
plus guys come playoff time and if they don't cool, how many B pluses
1:54:45
do you have? How many bees? How many B minuses do you have?
1:54:48
Do your B plus dudes play like B plus dudes? If they don't,
1:54:51
do you get a C plus guy who plays like a B plus guy?
1:54:55
How do you plug those holes? How do you put that puzzle together
1:54:59
in order to have the Jimmys and Joe show up and bring it when you
1:55:01
might not necessarily have the x's and o's, or are the x's and os
1:55:05
so brilliant and so schematically devised and well done that the Jimmies and Joe's don't
1:55:10
matter because you have the schematic advantage at the end of the day. Oh,
1:55:15
this is a fair coming here from artist saying I just have feeling the
1:55:16
only way to get past Kansas City is to have Kelsey and Reid retire.
1:55:20
I'll tell you what, I don't even think it's as much Kelsey. I
1:55:23
mean, Kelsey's awesome, and I don't want to like put down Kelsey at
1:55:27
all, but man, just seeing like what they are with Reid and Spags,
1:55:33
like, it's gonna be hard to get past Kansas City knowing that they
1:55:36
have read and Spags like, it's gonna be hard to get past that group,
1:55:40
and you know who knows. We'll see what Baltimore is now now that
1:55:43
McDonald has gone. We'll see what ohays Ralph says here. You know what
1:55:46
do Jim Harbaugh's Chargers, what are they gonna look like coming out of the
1:55:49
AFC West, Like, I don't know, maybe Antonio Pears unlocks something in
1:55:54
the Raiders and the Raiders that have always played the chief stuff. I don't
1:55:57
know, maybe the Raiders suddenly become a player in the AFC, or I
1:56:00
don't know. There's a multitude of things that can go wrong if you are
1:56:03
a Bills fan in this Bills team, but they're close. They are still
1:56:09
one of the best teams in the NFL. The cap situation can be managed
1:56:12
to bit this offseason. It's not gonna be sunshiny rainbows. They're not going
1:56:15
out and training for Josh Allen and signing Mike Evans and doing all these crazy
1:56:19
things. Watch. They probably will do that now and then I'm gonna look
1:56:21
like a fool. But it's gonna be tough for them to make a big,
1:56:24
huge splash and free agency. They're gonna have to be smart they're gonna
1:56:27
have to get good value. They're gonna have to find scheme fits at a
1:56:30
good cost. They're gonna have to nail this draft. But there are things
1:56:33
to like with this team, and as they get healthier and come back next
1:56:35
year, you're still looking at Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs and a year two
1:56:39
Dalton Kincaid and a year three James Cook and a very good offensive line,
1:56:44
and another year with group, another year with Ed Oliver and Bernard and Milano
1:56:47
coming back and becoming maybe one of the best linebacker tandems in the NFL.
1:56:51
Benford and Russell Douglas. We'll see what you get from Trey White. You
1:56:56
have an all Pro Nickel and Tarren Johnson. We'll see what happens at safety.
1:57:00
There is work to be done for this team, but they're close.
1:57:02
And even with a mass unit of a defense in the Divisional round, man
1:57:09
that ending of the game, still the Bills should have been in position to
1:57:13
make the Chiefs have to go down and put points up on the board to
1:57:15
win that game of the Divisional round. Now, I didn't have a ton
1:57:18
of faith that the defense is gonna be able to stop them, but still
1:57:20
you never know. It's just a wild situation for this team to be and
1:57:25
year after year where it constantly seems like the pieces are there, they just
1:57:29
don't click. The pieces are there, they just don't click. And I
1:57:30
don't think that necessarily can be blamed on any one person or any one thing.
1:57:33
I think a lot of it is just chalked up to the nature of
1:57:36
football and how hard it is to win a Super Bowl and all the pieces
1:57:40
that need to align for you to win a championship in the NFL. But
1:57:44
then also looking inward on this team, yeah, where they have to be
1:57:45
better as a coaching staff, and be better as a roster and from an
1:57:48
execution player standpoint, from the players, from the coaches, anything and everything.
1:57:53
But they're not far off. It's closer than it may seem. So
1:57:59
you know, how far are the buff Bills from dethroning the Chiefs. I
1:58:00
don't think they're very far. Again, I know the regular season is different
1:58:03
from the playoffs, with the Bills continuing to beat the Chiefs in the regular
1:58:06
season definitely says something. They just got to figure out a way to do
1:58:10
it in the playoffs, And I don't think it's as far off as it
1:58:13
may seem, even though it's very demoralizing to continue to lose to this team,
1:58:16
but we'll see what happens as they go forward. That'll do it for
1:58:20
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Live every Wednesday, seven pm Eastern. Oh that's awesome, Carl, Thank
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you so much. Carl says, thanks, and as always, use a
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couple of dollars for you. I appreciate the hell out of you, Carl.
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You are You're here every week on Disguys Coverage. I'll see in the
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and the comments and the engagement. But thank you for the kind words and
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for the super chat. That's awesome, man, Thank you so much.
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I really appreciate that. That's super cool. I appreciate that. I almost
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go to break it. I also just saw this comment from you saying homes
2:00:48
can win eight rings and take over the title of the goat from Tom Brady.
2:00:51
That's fine, but I would like to see the Bills have some luck
2:00:55
and win one or two Super Bowl rings during that time we have. Josh
2:00:57
Allen. I brought this comment up because I'm same boat. I don't need
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I would love the Bills to have a dynasty in this huge run. I
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don't need that. Give me just one. I just want one super Bowl.
2:01:09
That's it. Just give me one. If I got two, if
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the Bills got two, I'm over the moon. But yeah, just give
2:01:14
me at least one. Man, that would be That would be some kind
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of something. But I appreciate that comment, and again, Carl, thank
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you for the super chat. And I appreciate everyone else with the kind words
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as well. Thank you very much. I hope you and your family and
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