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- 0:00Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Monday, March twenty fifth, I'm your
- 0:03host, Tom or the Akron game in one hundred and sixty days, the
- 0:06game against Michigan in two hundred and fifty days. On Saturday, the Ohio
- 0:10State back Eyes held their first scrimmage of the spring. It was closed to
- 0:14the media, closed to the public. But sometimes, folks on the staff
- 0:18at Buckeye huddle dot com, here's some things, and sometimes there's some interesting
- 0:22information to come out, and it's not always super detailed play by play information,
- 0:28but generally the folks who are there know what they're talking about, and
- 0:31so if they let you know something was interesting, it's generally pretty good information.
- 0:35And bring in Kevin Nowon of bucke huddle dot com. He've been shot
- 0:38talking about this stuff on the huddle board at bucke huddle dot com basically since
- 0:43the scrimmage ended. And Kevin, I guess let's start with the one position
- 0:47group on the defense where there are maybe some question marks this year and some
- 0:51turnover the linebackers. It sounded like scrimmage won. Things look pretty good,
- 0:56pretty darn good there. Yeah, I think there were a lot of concerns
- 1:00with Ohio State losing Tommy Eikenberg and Steel Chambers. I mean, two guys
- 1:04that had locked down the positions for a couple of years, what was the
- 1:07position going to look like moving forward? And while I didn't necessarily get rotations,
- 1:12I was told, quote unquote, the linebackers looked really good. So
- 1:17that means guys like Cody Simon, who is a known But then what happens
- 1:21at that point is that a Sunny Styles is a a CJ. Hicks.
- 1:25I wasn't able to get much further, and I didn't want to put my
- 1:27source really out over his skis, but he said that they looked really good,
- 1:34that they were flying around out there, And I mean, I think
- 1:37that's going to have to be something that people really grasp onto because, as
- 1:40you said in the setup there, linebacker is the one position on the defensive
- 1:45side that I think people have the questions just mostly because of in a four
- 1:49to two five the two are gone, so you were having to put new
- 1:53guys in there. And while Cody Simon isn't a new guy with the amount
- 1:57that he's played, especially on times I went back to more of a traditional
- 2:00four to three, he has not been in every down type of player at
- 2:06Ohio State yet. And I think if you had to ask Ohio State fans,
- 2:12you know that I can let you pick one position group on the defense
- 2:15to hear, Hey, things were looking really good during the first scrimmage.
- 2:19I think most people would pick the linebackers because there's sort of a level of
- 2:22expectation. Yeah, the corners are probably going to be pretty good. Yeah,
- 2:23the safety are probably gonna be pretty good, The defensive line probably gonna
- 2:27be pretty good. For the linebackers to be pretty good, to be impressive
- 2:30this early. That feels like that's probably about the best possible news Ohio State
- 2:34fans could get at this point. Oh yeah, I certainly agree that getting
- 2:38positive news about the linebackers because that is kind of the missing link. I
- 2:43mean, we do know on the defensive line when you return Jack Sawyer,
- 2:46JT. Tuamoloou, when on the defensive tackle when you return everybody but my
- 2:52call, all of that is important. I mean, I think that they're
- 2:54going to there's gonna be the need for depth at a lot of positions.
- 2:58It's going to be a long season, especially if it's a successful season,
- 3:01potentially going out to sixteen games. Let's not say seventeen, because if we
- 3:05say seventeen, that means you're having to play a first round game in the
- 3:07playoffs, and nobody wants that. That doesn't that doesn't A, that doesn't
- 3:13help you, and B that means that maybe your season wasn't as special as
- 3:16you'd hoped it would be. But with the linebackers really showing up there,
- 3:21and again it's a scrimmage, it's it's early. I mean, I don't
- 3:24want anybody go on out and getting on their favorite getting on their favorite sportsbook
- 3:29site and laying bets based on what we're talking about here on you know,
- 3:34late March. But scrimmage one linebacker's good, and scrimmage one sounds like defensive
- 3:40line good as well. And that is not probably as much of a surprise
- 3:45because there's a lot of returning talent there and even the second level talent there.
- 3:49Some of the younger guys have seen the decent amount of action. But
- 3:53you know, again, this is one of these things where it feels like
- 3:57that's you know, if you have we're Kevin, they're one in the trenches.
- 4:00So a good start for the defensive line feels like a good start for
- 4:04the spring for Ohio State. Well, I mean, everything kind of feeds
- 4:09into itself. If you if you get a good pass rush that helps out
- 4:12your secondary. If your secondary is really good, then maybe you have a
- 4:15little bit more time for your defensive line to get home. If everything works
- 4:19together. I mean, that's you know, that's what separates a good team
- 4:23from a great team, and a great team from an excellent team. And
- 4:26Ohio State certainly has a chance to be an excellent team. I'll be very
- 4:30curious to see how can Yata Jackson, how Kate Curry some of you know,
- 4:32these two's on the on the at the end, how they look.
- 4:36I'll be curious if if Tywan Malone has been able to really kind of take
- 4:41that next step. But the fact that they were getting after it is,
- 4:46you know, it could be a catch twenty two. They're going to be
- 4:46the people out there that are the last half empty guys. We're gonna say,
- 4:49well, that just means that the offensive line was no good And I
- 4:53haven't necessarily gotten a detailed report about how the offensive line looked, but this
- 4:59defensive line, when you just look at the amount of guys that have come
- 5:00back, the amount of the amount of reps that they've all had, game
- 5:03reps they've had, it's going to be a handful for anybody to try and
- 5:10contain. So before people start freaking out over the offensive line, I was
- 5:15not able necessarily to get up well. The O line just wasn't able to
- 5:18do it. Stuff. I just think it was the D line being pretty
- 5:21darn special well in the offensive line. And there's a lot less, a
- 5:26lot less, you know, hair pulling concern about the offensive line this time
- 5:30of year than there was this time last year. So you're automatically sort of
- 5:34in a position where you don't necessarily assume this is bad news about the offensive
- 5:39line. Is the defensive line. The offensive line supposed to better. The
- 5:42defensive line is also supposed to be better. So it feels like this might
- 5:45be more glass half full than glass half empty. But scrimmage one again.
- 5:49We'll keep watching throughout the course of the spring. Other side of the ball,
- 5:54Too true freshman. Now, I'm going to let everyone in the audience
- 5:58take one second as to which who is one of the true, too true
- 6:00freshmen who we were hearing very very very very positive things about. All Right,
- 6:06pencils down, get ready to get your shocked faces ready, Kevin.
- 6:10It sounds like Jeremiah Smith might have had a pretty good day. Yeah,
- 6:15Jeremiah Smith has already lost his black stripe. And as we talked about on
- 6:18a show that actually was very popular here on the channel at YouTube dot com,
- 6:23slash Buckeye Huddle, he is the real deal. I talked to somebody
- 6:29who was involved with the seven on seventeen on Saturday, and I said,
- 6:32I heard Jeremiah was really good. He's like, yeah, big surprise,
- 6:35So you know, you kind of you kind of go from there. Could
- 6:41he be a Day one starter? I think so. I mean, I
- 6:45guess so much of it depends on what formation Ohio State opens the game in.
- 6:49Everybody wants to sit there and talk about what the starter is. I
- 6:54mean, if Ohio State comes out there in twenty two, which it doesn't
- 6:58really, but if it came if Ohio State came out they're in twenty two,
- 7:00there's probably not gonna be a lot of opportunity to be to be a
- 7:02receiver out there. But I think I think Jeremiah Smith is going to see
- 7:06action from from game one. He just I mean, he has all the
- 7:12talent, he has all the skills. Oh and by the way, he
- 7:15is a hard worker. He really he's got a lot of Marvin Harrison Junior
- 7:18in him in terms of how much work he puts into his craft because he
- 7:23knows that he has all of this god given ability. But it doesn't mean
- 7:27anything if you don't go out there and develop it. So I hate saying
- 7:33this for a true freshman, but enjoy him while you got him. And
- 7:35I know that we got a three year count on him, But enjoy him
- 7:38while you got him, because this is this is going to be a short
- 7:43run with him. For practices like this, you generally are not getting a
- 7:47you know, paragraphs and paragraphs of texts from sources about stuff. Tony Gerdaman
- 7:53said he just reported one word that he got from someone but Jeremiah Smith,
- 7:59that was quote unbelievable exclamation point close quote. Sometimes you don't need very many
- 8:05words to say a lot of things that this feels like one of those cases.
- 8:09Now here's okay. The first guy, Okay, you probably figured out
- 8:13that this is going to be someone you're going to be hearing about. Second
- 8:16one was a little bit of an oh really kind of moment. Sure,
- 8:20you probably are thinking, hey, maybe they're going to talk about the transfer
- 8:24quarterback, and we are, but not the one you're probably thinking about,
- 8:28because Bill Howard came over from Kansas State broadly considered to be, you know,
- 8:31maybe the favorite or one of the favorites to win the starting job this
- 8:35fall. That was not the one that our folks got some reports on on
- 8:39Saturday, Julian saying, true freshman, he's technically an Alabama transfer. He
- 8:45was at Alabama for about the amount of time it takes to get a pizza
- 8:48delivered, and then transferred up to Columbus after Nick Saban's retirement. And it
- 8:52sounds like Kevin Juliansayan is making a very positive early impression. Yeah, and
- 8:58you know, I kind of touch base on several of the quarterbacks here.
- 9:01And it's not that Air Nolan because they're going to be forever linked Ar Nolan
- 9:05and Julian say and as the two incoming true freshman quarterbacks at Ohio State one
- 9:09via Portal one via you know, the traditional method of how you obtain players,
- 9:16saying, had you know, just looked really good out there. I
- 9:18mean he just seemed to be very confident. It didn't look like it was
- 9:22too big for him. I mean again, playing over at the Woody versus
- 9:26playing at Ohio Stadium are two different things. Playing against your teammates versus playing
- 9:31against another team is another thing. But you know, he looked really good.
- 9:35I heard. I was also told kind of on the side that it
- 9:39wasn't that Aaron Noland didn't look good out there, that they really like Aaron
- 9:41Noland. They think that Aaron Noland is progressing. But Julian saying just took
- 9:46a huge step here, very early. I would expect that black stripe to
- 9:50probably be coming off in the next week, quite honestly. But when you
- 9:56are an Ohio State quarterback and you are throwing against the secondary that Ohio State
- 10:01has, those windows are smaller than any window you've ever gone against. Because
- 10:05you know, Ohio State, somebody told me big if true, Ohio State
- 10:09has a pretty good secondary. So to shine as a quarterback Ohio State is
- 10:15no small undertaking. Yeah, you've got pretty good wide receivers to work with,
- 10:18but also the guys on the other side of the field pretty darn good
- 10:22at what they do as well. So and Kevin, we live in an
- 10:24era of overreaction. And you know, as soon as you hear anything about
- 10:28true freshman looking good. Everyone says day one starter question mark, and I
- 10:33think you know, with Jeremiah Smith, I am like slowly and grudgingly coming
- 10:37along the line to like this has gone from probably not to maybe to possibly
- 10:43to probably. So okay, you've dragged me along with the Jeremiah Smith thing.
- 10:50Julian saying true freshman quarterback, I know, early, exciting, good
- 10:56news, all of that kind of stuff. You're not starting a true freshman
- 11:03quarterback this year with as veteran a team as you have, and with as
- 11:07many other veteran quarterback options as we have, are you? I don't see
- 11:11it. I mean, now, if he comes out there and he's twenty
- 11:16five percent better than everybody else, but then the fear is how many guys
- 11:20hit the portal if that's the case. I mean, that's again the reason
- 11:24why we're not going to come out of spring football knowing an Ohio State starter,
- 11:26even if somebody is like five hundred percent better than everybody else. I
- 11:31don't think that Ohio State is going to announce that because we have such an
- 11:35amount of movement in terms of especially at quarterback that happens throughout college football,
- 11:41and you want to make sure that you have depth. Oh Ohio State has
- 11:43five quarterbacks, well you want to figure out how Ohio State is gonna have
- 11:46like two quarterbacks announced. Julian's saying, as as as your starter, and
- 11:50we'll see what comes from that. But I think Julian's saying right now would
- 11:54be competing for the backup role because what happens coming out of spring, what
- 12:03happens coming out of fall practice. Let's say that Will Howard does live up
- 12:07to what you know, what the expectation is and Will Howard and I heard
- 12:11a lot of good things about Will Howard from the scrimmage, his ability to
- 12:16run the ball. He's a little bit more of a of a of an
- 12:18Urban Meyer type of quarterback with with that ability, which I think doesn't translate
- 12:24as well in a scrimmage when you're doing more of a thud ball type of
- 12:28thing protecting your quarterbacks. You just you know, you don't, you don't
- 12:31know what you don't know, But no, I don't. I don't see
- 12:33Julian saying or ar Nolan being the starter. Now with that being said,
- 12:39if if Will Howard is the guy, and he's a mobile quarterback, and
- 12:43we know players are bigger, faster, stronger, and things happen, you
- 12:48better be ready. In Ohio State has to do a good job of maintaining
- 12:52its numbers and making sure it keeps everybody happy. Are you going to be
- 12:56able to keep five quarterbacks happy? Absolutely not. Do I expect there to
- 13:01be five quarterbacks scholarship quarterbacks on Ohio State's roster for the Akron game in one
- 13:07hundred and sixty days or whatever it was you said, No, I don't.
- 13:11I think that they lose one, maybe two, I don't know,
- 13:13but yeah, it's gonna be fun. I'm looking forward to next weekend when
- 13:18we get to go and see the scrimmage for Student Appreciation Day. Unfortunately,
- 13:24that is not one of the best viewing events just based on the way that
- 13:26it's set up, but you know, maybe we'll be able to coroborate some
- 13:31of the things we've heard. Yeah, we're looking forward to that. We're
- 13:33going to be back inside the Woody a bunch this week Tuesday for interviews,
- 13:39Thursday for interviews again, and then Saturday for the scrimmage, and then we'll
- 13:43have another interview session after that. So a lot of stuff coming there,
- 13:46a lot of stuff coming in a whole bunch of other fronts right now with
- 13:50the Buckeyes in a whole bunch of other sports. As if the time we're
- 13:52recording this, they have not tipped off the women's game for the second round
- 13:56of the NCAA Tournament. Women's hockey will play the national championship game a little
- 14:01later on on Sunday afternoon. Men's basketball earned the right to play in the
- 14:05third round of the nit that will happen on Tuesday night. As of the
- 14:09time we're recording this, we don't know where that's going to be, but
- 14:11we'll have a whole bunch of information about all of that stuff coming up for
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