Latest / Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo / Jenn Nizza: The Subtle Lure Of Dark Crafts & Demonic Influence
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- 0:00As I go through my teenage years and I get older, the demonic presences, the entities,
- 0:10multiplied every reading, clairvoyant readings, crystals every time, little did I realize,
- 0:19but that's what was happening, demons were multiplying around me.
- 0:24This became my job, I was a professional psychic medium and I still thought I was the good
- 0:28guy because, you know, after all, I wasn't charging as much as other people.
- 0:33I wasn't interested in being on TV, I didn't want to do the restaurant circuit, I was the
- 0:37good one.
- 0:41Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events, defending
- 0:49biblical Christianity, no topic, off limits.
- 0:54And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
- 0:59So friends, we'll be talking about that today with our guest, Jen Niza, who's back with
- 1:03us, her website, xpsychicsaved.com, that's expsychicsaved.com, and we'll talk a little bit
- 1:13about what she was telling you, they were telling the audience there at a recent presentation
- 1:18she gave.
- 1:19Let's bring her in right now, Jen, so good to see you, thanks for your time today.
- 1:23Hi, it's so good to be back with you guys, God bless you.
- 1:27God bless you too, I appreciate your ministry and just a little teaser, you got a new book
- 1:31coming out, but it's going to be in October, we'll have her on again to talk more about
- 1:35that.
- 1:36But tell us about, I'm going to ask you specifically about something you said there
- 1:40in that clip, but before we do that, you were in Canada, that was in Calgary, was it
- 1:45Story Fest?
- 1:46Is that right?
- 1:47Yes, Story Fest is about that.
- 1:49Tell us about that.
- 1:50Oh boy, so the creator of it, Ryan Stachert, he's so great, host of Thunder, yep, Thunderinlightstudios.com,
- 2:01and this was in the making for a year, and he had reached out to me on a DM in Instagram
- 2:08over a year ago to ask me if I would come and talk and share my testimony in front of
- 2:16hundreds of people, and it was a huge event, David, so many great testimonies from all
- 2:23over the place, a whole day event, and honestly, I think it was, yeah, my first time speaking
- 2:33to a group that large, the little headset and everything, and yeah, whenever God calls,
- 2:40I say yes, when God wants me to do something.
- 2:44Well, I'm thankful, I'm sure you are too, that he seems to be enlarging your territory,
- 2:49giving you a larger sphere of influence, and that's a greater responsibility for all of
- 2:54us.
- 2:55It's a privilege, it's an honor to be used by the Lord, to be ambassadors for Christ, but
- 2:58you have an amazing story, and you can reach a different audience that we could reach
- 3:02here with World View Matters, because you've been through something that a lot of people,
- 3:07a lot of younger people maybe can relate to, they know a little bit about the new age or
- 3:10witchcraft, or maybe they were tempted, and maybe there were still people struggling
- 3:15with that.
- 3:16So you've got a different niche, and I think God's using you a big time sister.
- 3:19So what I wanted to know is that was in Canada, they tend to be a little bit more intolerant
- 3:26of the biblical world view.
- 3:29Did that affect any of the planning, or the event itself, can you tell me anything about
- 3:35that?
- 3:36No, it didn't affect anything at all.
- 3:40Ryan Pradeward was able to secure a church to hold the event, and the people were fantastic.
- 3:48They were absolutely fantastic.
- 3:50And it was amazing to see so many young people there, and come up to me afterwards and ask
- 3:57really great questions.
- 3:59And I think it just gives more evidence that the enemy is attacking the youth today,
- 4:08and that's something new and I'm very passionate about exposing the new age in the occult is
- 4:14glamorized and very mainstream in our culture, and these young people coming over to me and
- 4:18saying, hey, there's a group of girls that practice witchcraft, and they're in my class.
- 4:23How can I reach them?
- 4:24What can I say to them?
- 4:25They've got crystals and amongst many other questions.
- 4:30So it was just fantastic.
- 4:32And it is a blessing to be able to meet people in person.
- 4:38God has since brought me out speaking again, and I have more in the work.
- 4:43So public speaking is new on the list there, David, and I'm happy to.
- 4:51Awesome.
- 4:52Let's get to a couple of questions about one is what you said about demons multiplying
- 4:58when you were doing the psychic readings.
- 5:00That's very interesting, because a lot of times we think it's not real, there's no
- 5:04really connection with the spirit realm, but that's not exactly true.
- 5:08And then the other thing I want to ask about tarot cards, before we do that, you're starting
- 5:12up season three of your podcast.
- 5:15How can people, I know it's on YouTube, right?
- 5:18It's on your website and on YouTube at ex psychic save Jen Niza on YouTube.
- 5:23Well no, that's not actually so YouTube is just my separate YouTube channel.
- 5:28Okay.
- 5:29The pod you can stream through all podcast streaming platforms by Google Apple, there you
- 5:35go.
- 5:36There it is.
- 5:37Edify.
- 5:38And I tell you, David, God put a fire on my heart when I came back from NRB back in
- 5:45February, which is a big media, Christian media convention.
- 5:51And got me back into the audio version of my, of the podcast, I should say, audio podcast.
- 6:00Because I was just dropping episodes maybe even monthly.
- 6:04Now they're weekly.
- 6:05And of course, it's like, well, God, you want me to do this weekly?
- 6:08What do you want me to talk about?
- 6:09We're going to find everything updated.
- 6:13Guests after guests after guests.
- 6:15I already have loads of shows in the bank.
- 6:18So we're set.
- 6:19We're off to quite the start.
- 6:21We are busy exposing the evil schemes of the evil one over on ex psychic saved.
- 6:27Good.
- 6:28Good.
- 6:29So let's talk about something you said in that opening clip about demons were multiplying.
- 6:33So you were a psychic.
- 6:35You had a business.
- 6:37You thought you were helping people.
- 6:39And then you said the demonic presence or demons were multiplying.
- 6:43Can you explain that to someone who might not understand how that works?
- 6:48When you enter into divination, which is an abomination to God, what you're doing is
- 6:53you're going to, you're going to demonic forces.
- 6:56Because the actual divination tool has no power or knowledge over anything or control
- 7:03over anything.
- 7:04But when you, you're entering to divination by doing readings, tarot card readings, psychic
- 7:09medium readings, any kind of reading, any form of divination, fortune telling, interpreting
- 7:14omens, etc.
- 7:16So what you're doing is you're going into this sin and you're going directly to demons
- 7:21for demonic contact.
- 7:23Now you don't realize I didn't realize that's what I was doing.
- 7:26I really believe the object, you know, the planets, the stars, the numbers and the cards
- 7:32had supernatural information and knowledge and wisdom and all of those things.
- 7:39And I really did believe I was helping people.
- 7:41I really did.
- 7:42And I wanted to help people and I'm so glad you brought that up because that is a
- 7:47clear difference between people that look the part.
- 7:51You know what I mean?
- 7:52I know I say this a lot, but I like to drive it home that what people think which craft
- 7:57and new age, it has a certain look about it.
- 8:01Well let me tell you something, Satan masquerades is an angel of light.
- 8:04So just as I was pulling my clip, oh I was the good guy, well I was a good guy, I also
- 8:08shopped at the gap, I was a family woman, this is not somebody you think would be tapping
- 8:13into the evil, you know, evil entities and demons.
- 8:20And I didn't think I were either, but that is exactly what you're doing and they are multiplying
- 8:25every door you open, it's not a joke, it's not entertainment, that's with the enemy.
- 8:31As a deception of the enemy, making people think, oh these are just hucksters, these
- 8:35are just charlatans, this is just slight of hand or a parlor game or whatever, well that's
- 8:40a very convenient way for you to laugh it off and keep exposing you to it, desensitizing
- 8:47people to it, right?
- 8:49So to the enemy's machinations.
- 8:52So you were one of the good guys or you thought, right?
- 8:55So can you clarify, a lot of people have a misunderstanding, maybe it goes back to the
- 9:00Wizard of Oz and Glenda, the Good Witch, right?
- 9:04Or the Witch of the Good Witch of the North.
- 9:05So there's really no distinguishing between black magic and white magic or a good witch
- 9:13and a bad witch, can you clarify that for us?
- 9:16Absolutely, and thank you so much for bringing that up because we saw with the movie Wicked
- 9:20Ariana Grande, not only is it a very woke movie, but this is a movie promoting that very
- 9:26concept that you can have a white witch and any other color witch and some are golden
- 9:32white witches, white witches are good because, and listen, you know, in all seriousness,
- 9:38witchcraft, real witches, take that practice very seriously, they take it very seriously.
- 9:43So a white witch would think that, well I'm not, you know, I don't have bad intentions
- 9:48towards you, I'm not trying to put spell on you, I'm trying to draw things to myself
- 9:54with my intentions and my wanting power and control.
- 9:58Whereas a black witch is the one who's sitting there, you know, putting spells on other
- 10:02people, incantations, doing incantations, et cetera, and it's very real, is there a difference
- 10:09between the two?
- 10:10Zero, zero difference, okay, again we have that masquerading, which is a very convenient
- 10:16way for the enemy to make you think it's okay to step into something that God condemns
- 10:22and bring you into complete disobedience to the Lord and distract you away from the truth,
- 10:28which is Jesus Christ and that you have no power or control.
- 10:32Wow, I just had this thought of this memory that came up and this is kind of unrelated,
- 10:37but I want to share this.
- 10:38A friend of mine was a worship leader, she was from Florida, she was on an airplane sitting
- 10:43next to a guy dressed really clean cut white business shirt, dress shirt, and they got into
- 10:49a conversation and a long story short, he said, well, we're praying that every marriage
- 10:58in America will end in divorce and he said, that's what the Lord wants and she said, what?
- 11:05She said, that's not the Lord, the Lord doesn't want that long story short, he was a Satan
- 11:09worshiper and he was serving Satan and he wanted, he saw he's for abortion, he's for divorce,
- 11:16to break down the family and so just so you think that you know, you see people that look normal
- 11:22but you don't know the world view, you don't know what's really behind what they're about.
- 11:26So that was, I've always remembered that I'm going, wow, so we can't assume that people are
- 11:30going to look wicked, people are going to look like they're evil and you know, casting spells
- 11:35and they're scheming. No, they were normal people, like you said, you were a mom, you know,
- 11:40you shopped at, what do you see the gap? And yet you were, and you were doing psychic readings
- 11:47and you thought you were helping people. But anyway, back to, by the way, friends, if you want to look
- 11:52up, we did a couple podcasts with Jen here at World View Matters and you can search those on our
- 11:57website to share more of her story, more details about her testimony, go to worldviewmatters.tv
- 12:04and on the search bar and the upper right type in Jen Niza, N-I-Z-Z-A. So we talked about your
- 12:10story. There it is. There's one, two. So we talked about the occult and the kids, especially starting
- 12:17in the 90s, maybe with the Harry Potter, the growth of that brand and all that, maybe Harry Potter,
- 12:22Twilight and you go on down the list, witchcraft has exploded. And now it's more zombies, I think,
- 12:29than anything on, like on TV, but with books and with movies and with television programs.
- 12:35You said something in one of your videos, something about tarot cards, because that's what drew
- 12:39you in. Tarot cards are really accessible or people can buy or kids can buy them easily. Can you
- 12:47talk to us a little bit about that, Jen? You know, Barnes and Noble has what can be argued as a
- 12:53larger new age section than a biblical section. So right there and then right at these local bookstores,
- 13:02you can go in and purchase a deck of tarot cards and they are marketing them towards children.
- 13:07They look like they're for kids, tarot cards for kids, beginning tarot cards for kids, you know,
- 13:14or pretty little pictures. One, I remember looking like the peanuts. I love the peanuts. I don't
- 13:18think it was Snoopy, but looked something like that. So this is just to draw in the children,
- 13:25because Satan never stops David. Yes, it's exploded and we've got social media and we've got all
- 13:30these things making it so attractive to children, especially Netflix. I mean, who doesn't
- 13:36Netflix and chill? Lots of people Netflix and chill. So you see these shows on their promoting all
- 13:41of these tools of divination and mediums and psychics, which can prompt an interest in that. And now
- 13:50your kids on Instagram and now they go to the mall and they're at Barnes and Noble. Oh, I want to
- 13:55try that. I want to tap into that supernatural, the supernatural is intriguing. But yeah, you can go
- 14:03and you will see these items, toy stores with the Ouija board. Of course, there's always been,
- 14:08you know, marketed as a toy. You have to be eight. I don't know if I've said, forgive me if I
- 14:12repeat myself. It just gets my go because you have to be, you only have to be eight to contact
- 14:18demons, David. Wow. Okay. But you have to be what age to drive. I don't recall 17, 18 years old.
- 14:28But you are seeing these these items everywhere and it's that nice push through social media,
- 14:34through the movies, reality TV. My first episode of season three is with Marcia Montenegro.
- 14:41We talked about two of the trending tap 10 shows on Netflix just over the last few months
- 14:48and how they have weaved in tools of divination. Why do they need to do that? Yeah.
- 14:55Not surprising. Attracting children, right? If you can get them young, if you get them interested,
- 15:01market it a certain way. Anyway, we've got to take a brief pause where with Jen,
- 15:05Neza, the website xpsave.com will be right back on World View Matters.
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- 16:03new podcast coming out. You're doing a lot more content. You recently did one with Marcia Montenegro.
- 16:09And one of the things I wanted to ask you about, you talked about a lot of things,
- 16:12but acupuncture. I really haven't read up on a lot of that or talked about that, but
- 16:19I hear a lot of Christians recommending acupuncture, acupressure, I think acupuncture.
- 16:26But I just don't feel right in my spirit about that. Can you explain just briefly about acupuncture?
- 16:33Yeah. Oh, yeah. And the video is on my YouTube channel. Marcia is a wealth of information.
- 16:38As you know, David. And acupuncture is a pseudo science really, you know, healing,
- 16:47healing modality with no evidence of actually doing anything and does have new age routes and
- 16:56relies on something called meridians. And so the thing is this, if you're putting a little needle,
- 17:02right, a little pin on somebody, our brains make endorphins because now you've stuck me with
- 17:09something. So the brain makes endorphins to take away the pain of that, make you feel better.
- 17:15So I can give you this kind of false sense of healing, but there's no evidence of it actually
- 17:22doing anything. It has nothing rooted in science at all whatsoever. And like I said, it really
- 17:26goes back to new age routes. And I would encourage people always to do your due diligence and
- 17:33do a deep dive on the origin of these healing modalities, which unfortunately usually are
- 17:41new age pseudo science modalities. Yeah, it's really big. Like the Chinese are well known for
- 17:47acupuncture. And so there are there are I would imagine their spirits behind these things.
- 17:52But then you're going to get some people say, well, I had it done and I felt better.
- 17:57Well, you know, you might feel better based on what you explained about how the body works with
- 18:02you get it a little pin put in and then the endorphins kick in. All right, we've got to move on,
- 18:06though. I want to ask you before we go to the next thing, a warning for parents. I'm a lot older
- 18:14than you, maybe. And I want to ask, could you give some advice to young parents? Because this stuff
- 18:23is everywhere, the tarot cards, the witchcraft, the casting spells. It's on books, TV, movies.
- 18:32In school, I'm sure they're getting a little bit of it everywhere. Social media. So and it's subtle.
- 18:40It's subtle somehow it draws kids in. Can you give a little warning for parents or what they can do
- 18:45to kind of prepare their kids or kind of keep them from this? Well, the warning would be to know
- 18:50what they're looking at, know what they're watching have. I mean, the best gift you can give your
- 18:55children is zero social media. I don't mean to tell like a grump or whatever. I mean, of course,
- 19:01that's an age appropriate thing. And Christian parents out there, I mean, I'm praying for you. It's
- 19:07a tough, it's a tough job and it's a tough world. But you need to be aware of these things and
- 19:13have an age appropriate conversation with your children about divination. Go right to God's word
- 19:20and have an age appropriate conversation with them about what it is, define the terms for them,
- 19:26and give examples of it. Because again, what I always say, oh, you know,
- 19:32Necromancy poster in a black cloak bed, but Jen Niza, you know, doing a reading in her gap outfit
- 19:41with some crystals and some pretty music and candles. Good. No, both bad. So you need to give examples
- 19:48because what they're going to see is a lot of smoke and mirrors, a lot of illusions because that's
- 19:52how the enemy does it. So like you said, David subtleties, there'll be subtleties. So you need to
- 19:58do your own due diligence to know what these things are. I pray that churches would start preaching
- 20:04more about it, David. I really do. And educating the church. Yeah, I agree. There's a little bit of
- 20:12ignorance on the occult. I'm not sure a lot of pastors know what to do with it. But then that's where
- 20:18you come in where you can speak at churches. By the way, if someone wanted you to do a presentation,
- 20:23how do they get a hold of you just through your website? Yeah, I actually have a form on there
- 20:27on my website. If you'd like me to come out and speak, you can go and fill out the form.
- 20:32And I am excited to be going, but God sending me out. I'm excited. I'll be in Houston. I'll be
- 20:38upstate New York. Yeah, I was in Brooklyn recently. Oh, that was very quick.
- 20:45Of course, Canada. And I love it. I absolutely love it. I love being, I've been on this side of
- 20:51the camera for a long time. Now getting to shake people's hands and answer questions
- 20:56person and even give lots of hugs. I just love it. And yeah, people need it. So I'm thankful for
- 21:02the people that have reached out to me and say, Hey, no, our congregation needs to know about this.
- 21:07Yes. Yes. And this is kind of a little transition. I wasn't sure I was going to mention this,
- 21:12but there's a movie that's out in the theaters because there's so much trash out there. And as you know,
- 21:17Netflix or wherever else regular television, you can watch shows about witches and the goodness of
- 21:22witchcraft and demons and vampires and zombies and everything else. It's almost like you can't get
- 21:27away from it if you are taking this in, whether it's TV or movies or social media, Hollywood. But
- 21:34there's a movie called The King of Kings. And it's Charles Dickens story about the life of Jesus.
- 21:41And it's a couple of weeks ago, it hit number two at the box office. And I just want to bring this
- 21:47up because there is a hunger out there, Jen, Neza for family, friendly entertainment and good
- 21:54quality, you know, even Christian movies, but family friendly, friendly movies. Angel studios put
- 21:59this on. It's called King of Kings. Number two spot. It earned more than $19 million when it came
- 22:07out. And it's still going. Obviously, it's still in theaters. It's new, but it's got the voices of
- 22:12Pierce Brosnan, Forest Whitaker, Mark Hamill, Umatherman, and others, but it's very fascinating. So
- 22:21it's doing very well in the studio again, King of the King of Kings. If you guys want to check that out
- 22:26because there is some good entertainment. Maybe talk just a little bit about your thoughts on
- 22:30entertainment and how I mean, I don't know if Hollywood, you would think with the numbers like
- 22:36stories like this, you would think they would get the message that some of the trash they put out,
- 22:40just bombs and the wokeness. A lot of the woke stuff now is bombing at the box office, but I'm
- 22:46not sure if Hollywood's going to get the message. Do you have thoughts on that real quick?
- 22:50I'm with you. I don't think that they're going to get the message because I think that they're
- 22:53Disney. Yeah. Yeah. And they're being influenced by demonic forces, David. They're they're
- 23:00driving force is greed money. I'm sorry to be a nasty but greed, money, a lust for a lust for
- 23:07those things, right? And of course, woke the woke culture has to be a part of it. They don't
- 23:14care if it bombs. It has to be because they still ultimately just have to be light. They have to
- 23:18get their rewards. They have to do all that stuff. I don't remember the last time I saw a movie
- 23:23in the movie theater to be honest with you because there is nothing to see, honestly. I know
- 23:30you just mentioned that. I don't know anything about that film, but it's a disgrace. It's very sad
- 23:38and yet I'm encouraged to see how God still in his grace and his compassion is still giving his
- 23:46children all of us a say to right getting out there. I'm maybe not as much yet in cinema,
- 23:52which I would really love to see. I would really love to see that. Yes. Yeah, there are more coming out
- 23:58and I think that's the ones I've seen. I don't go to the theaters a lot either, but when I do go,
- 24:02usually it's like what do you call that crowdfunding when the movie is done independently and they
- 24:06just only have a certain number of days. But this is an interesting animated film. Again, Charles
- 24:12Dickens, the author tells his son Walter about a kind and humble king who gave his life from mankind.
- 24:19I think, wow, I mean, it is animated. Maybe that's why it doesn't get, it's gotten great reviews.
- 24:25So I don't know, but I just think that was really interesting and just there's such a need because
- 24:29kids get sucked into all the bad stuff. So Jan Mert, we've got about three minutes left.
- 24:35Don't want to open it up another can of worms, but just your thoughts on when you get out and talk to
- 24:42recently, when you've talked to people, younger people, what have they shared about what they're
- 24:48exposed to, what they're tempted by? I'm sure maybe you get some people opening up to you
- 24:54about the lures of witchcraft. Just give us a little insight on that.
- 24:59Yeah, actually things that you may not think are so evil looking, right? Crystals. So we know
- 25:05the crystals are awful. All glory to God for them. They're pretty rocks and that's it. We're never
- 25:12supposed to be using them. We're not instructed to use them to attain any sort of supernatural
- 25:19information to get protection from them, healing from them, or anything other than just giving
- 25:25God the glory for such a beautiful creation. Yet, unfortunately, crystals are used for chakra bracelets,
- 25:33crystals are used for witchcraft, believing that you can attract what you intend towards yourself
- 25:40by wearing them, putting them in your pocket, holding on to them, and that again is bringing you to
- 25:46the object, the creation, and not to the creator, which is the distraction and the desired result
- 25:54that Satan has. Manifesting is, or the law of attraction is huge. It is huge, right? And there's
- 26:02just three million different methods that come out on how to do it. So again, Satan's agenda and
- 26:09idea is the same. And then these different things will play off of it and then they'll become viral
- 26:13on tic-tac. So one feeds the next thing, the next thing. And these people, because people want
- 26:19things and we look at the world, it is so turbulent. It really is. It really is. It's not easy. I
- 26:26mean that when I say that it's not easy. Yet, we want to point people to Christ because though we
- 26:32want in the world, we're not of the world, when we have Lord Jesus, and he is the solution, of course,
- 26:37to all things, and the only one who is good, and the only one who is truth, and the only one who
- 26:43is sovereign and has authority over all creation, right? So stop going to the creation. Manifesting,
- 26:51you may think it's nice. What's wrong with some goals? Well, it's not about goals. It's about the
- 26:56fact that you're going to do this whole process because you believe if you do this process of
- 27:00visualizing, believing, being positive, that you're going to create it into existence, speak it
- 27:07into existence, or create change and control your own reality. Yep, this stuff is dangerous. I'm glad
- 27:13you brought that up, but I'm even more glad you brought up crystals because you know, they may be
- 27:18created by God, but people put so much emphasis into some of these things. Jen, Niza, thank you so
- 27:23much just for your voice, your heart, and what you're doing. I can't wait for the new book. We'll
- 27:29have you on again, and we're just thankful for your ministry. Appreciate your time today, Sister.
- 27:34Good to see you. God bless you. Thank you for you too. Thanks. All right, guys.
- 27:39Oh, expsychicsave.com. Check out her other books as well. God bless you, and as always,
- 27:45keep speaking the truth about things that matter.