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PLEA DEAL? D4VD 'COOKED' ARREST IN DEATH OF CELESTE, 13 · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a plea deal and Tonight
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Speaker 1: D four v D aka David Anthony Burke aka Murder
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Speaker 1: Suspect is cooked as an arrest goes down and the
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Speaker 1: death of Celeste, a thirteen year old little girl found
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Speaker 1: dead allegedly dismembered in Burke's Tesla trunk. I'm Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories.
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Speaker 2: I want to thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: A home incinerator was it purchased at the time of
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Speaker 1: Celeste's death?
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Speaker 3: For perent pages have in fact been used to render
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Speaker 3: down human remains.
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Speaker 4: This is something you would typically find out a farm,
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Speaker 4: and you gotta wonder what the man ultimately did.
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Speaker 5: Let's maybe get rid of her firm NOLLA.
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Speaker 2: Tonight is a plea deal in the works.
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Speaker 1: This ass an arrest goes down connected to the death
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Speaker 1: of a thirteen year old little girl. It's a lest
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Speaker 1: leave us her body found in the trunk of highly
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Speaker 1: popular D four VD aka David Anthony Burke aka Suspect
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Speaker 1: joining me an all star panel to make sense of
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Speaker 1: what we know right now?
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Speaker 2: What sparked news of a potential plea deal.
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Speaker 6: Burke's close friend Neo Langston arrested at his mother's home
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Speaker 6: in Montana on an unspecified warrant issued by the LAPD,
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Speaker 6: booked for dodging a mandated appearance as a material witness
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Speaker 6: in the homicide investigation. Langston is held without bail at
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Speaker 6: the Lewis and Clark County Jail in Helena.
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Speaker 1: Could somebody just surprise me just one time? Can a
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Speaker 1: defendant not be found hiding under his mother's bed? Day
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Speaker 1: one straight out to private investigator who has become immeshed,
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Speaker 1: embroiled in the D four VD David Anthony Burke case.
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Speaker 2: It's Steve Fisher.
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Speaker 1: Now high profile private investigator, missing person, the private investigator,
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Speaker 1: search and rescue expert, Steve Fisher. This all started when
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Speaker 1: Langston aka Neo aka Neo the Asian refused to come to.
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Speaker 2: Grand jury and they have to go look for him.
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Speaker 1: And of course he's hiding under mommy's bed in Helena,
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Speaker 1: far far away from that grand jury proceeding, so they
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Speaker 1: drag him back. That sparked discussion of a plea deal,
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Speaker 1: and I think they're right now. Some outlets misquoted you
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Speaker 1: stating that you thought DFURBD Burke is going to get indicted,
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Speaker 1: But I think that's best Awkwards.
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Speaker 2: What do you think, Fisher.
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Speaker 4: Well, you said that about dfourbd indicted. What they called
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Speaker 4: me saying is that he maybe a plea deal, and
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Speaker 4: then I did not say that. What I said was
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Speaker 4: the fact that they were bringing Linkston in on that
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Speaker 4: failure rope here worried me.
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Speaker 5: And I think he might be getting an immunity deal.
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Speaker 4: Because I quite frankly I would expect him to possibly
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Speaker 4: be a target, and then you even typically expect them
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Speaker 4: to bring a target in front of the grand jury
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Speaker 4: like that, And it makes me.
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Speaker 1: Think that hold that thought, Steve Fisher, I think you're right.
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Speaker 1: Let me go to high profile defense attorney joining us
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Speaker 1: from this jurisdiction is Joanna Nieva's criminal defense attorney, founder
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Speaker 1: of the Nievs Law firm. Joanna, here's the deal. Let
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Speaker 1: me just break it down.
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Speaker 2: He has a choice.
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Speaker 1: He can either be a co defendant or he can
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Speaker 1: be a witness. That's how I'm seeing it from here,
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Speaker 1: because I guarantee you, Joanna Lapd and I've heard this
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Speaker 1: from an insight source has this huge, huge wall and
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Speaker 1: they have digital tracking, a phone calls, GPS, locators, nav
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Speaker 1: system of all of D four vd's friends, including him, which.
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Speaker 2: Means they've got it down to the minute.
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Speaker 1: If Langston aka Neo was traveling along in a car
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Speaker 1: and I think I've identified one thing they're looking at, Joanna,
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Speaker 1: it's the night that DEFOURVD goes out into a densely
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Speaker 1: wooded forest area late in the night two three am.
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Speaker 1: Many people think to dispose of a body or scout
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Speaker 1: a spot.
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Speaker 2: To dispose of a body.
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Speaker 1: If it turns out that Neo Langston phone was traveling
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Speaker 1: along with D.
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Speaker 2: Four VDS, he's up the you know.
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Speaker 1: What creek without a paddle, so he can choose did
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Speaker 1: you dig the hole or do you want to end
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Speaker 1: up in the hole?
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Speaker 2: Langston?
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Speaker 7: So this is all assuming that he's got information to
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Speaker 7: offer that might incriminate David or even himself. But he
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Speaker 7: may be being called in to stick a timeline down.
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Speaker 7: He may be exculpating David in some way or another
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Speaker 7: person who is a person of interest in the matter.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I just choked on my te.
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Speaker 1: Hold on, well, let me see her please, joe an
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Speaker 1: Andy Evis, did you just say with the straight face
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Speaker 1: that LAPD puts out a in jurisdictional warrant and tracks
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Speaker 1: down Neo Langston who was de four Vidy's bestie, because
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Speaker 1: he has exculpatory evidence that may exonerate Burke. That is
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Speaker 1: not why they dragged him by his toes out from
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Speaker 1: under mummy's bed.
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Speaker 2: No, because he has evidence.
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Speaker 1: It's a grand jury investigation and charging arm.
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Speaker 2: Absolute Please let's be real.
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Speaker 7: They want the information, but also they're required to provide
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Speaker 7: all of the information, not just the things that want
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Speaker 7: to paint the picture that they want to put in
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Speaker 7: front of the grand jury. The grand jury may have
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Speaker 7: additional questions, and Neo Lanston may be able to shed
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Speaker 7: light on times, places, locations and relationships. So it may
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Speaker 7: not necessarily be about this one Santa Barbera trip. It
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Speaker 7: may even be just about what was the nature of
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Speaker 7: the relationship between David and Celeste, if there was anything inappropriate,
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Speaker 7: as many people have been speculating. But there's also speculations
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Speaker 7: of what the relationship may have been between Neo and
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Speaker 7: David himself. So I think that really we don't know
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Speaker 7: what his testimony will be. I do find that it's
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Speaker 7: probably going to be obviously material that they went through
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Speaker 7: these great lengths to get him there, but ultimately just
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Speaker 7: because he didn't go up doesn't mean that he's got
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Speaker 7: something incriminating for himself for somebody else. He may have
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Speaker 7: just been putting its head in the sand hoping that
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Speaker 7: this thing disappeared without having to participate.
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Speaker 2: I ask you a question, where did you go to
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Speaker 2: law school?
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Speaker 7: Florida State Gonoles.
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Speaker 1: That's a great school, and you've tried a lot of
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Speaker 1: criminal cases too. But I can guarandamn t you this
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Speaker 1: technical legal term. They did not drag him back to
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Speaker 1: ask him what's your relationship with Dfourvd.
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Speaker 2: That did not happen.
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Speaker 1: He was dragged home from Helena, Montana, back to LA
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Speaker 1: to testify in front of a grand jury.
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Speaker 2: And put in jail.
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Speaker 1: And that's not to find out if he and Dfurvid
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Speaker 1: were upbraiding each other's hair at night.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of that.
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Speaker 1: Steve Fisher, Steve Fisher, do you agree or disagree with
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Speaker 1: jo Anna Theevis?
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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what she's doing.
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Speaker 1: She's a world class defense lawyer and she is painting
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Speaker 1: a pretty picture, a pristine picture for Neo Langston.
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Speaker 2: But I guarantee you.
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Speaker 1: They did not drag him all the way back to
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Speaker 1: LA from Montana to find out about his relationship with
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Speaker 1: David Anthony Burt, I want to hear about the disc
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Speaker 1: you found in D fourvd's home. What photos were on
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Speaker 1: the disc?
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Speaker 5: Well, there's a there's eleven hundred photos on it.
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Speaker 4: There's telling me there's a neo is in a lot
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Speaker 4: of them with David and they have a very close relationship.
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Speaker 5: There's he's at the house a lot.
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Speaker 4: He's him and about like two other people seem to
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Speaker 4: always be around. I what worries me about this bringing
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Speaker 4: him back is that they even need his testimony, Because
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Speaker 4: if they haven't been able to make the case five
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Speaker 4: months later and they need his testimony, I would.
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Speaker 5: I would think you'd be a target instead of a witness.
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Speaker 5: And so that's what worries me.
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Speaker 4: That maybe they're going to offer him an immunity deal,
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Speaker 4: which I would hate to see if he has any
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Speaker 4: involvement in this.
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Speaker 1: Okay, because I was trying to figure out why you're
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Speaker 1: worried about it, But I see what you're saying. You
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Speaker 1: want everyone potentially involved in the death and the dismemberment
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Speaker 1: and the disposal of her body Celeste to be prosecuted.
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Speaker 1: I agree, look at her. Don't take down that picture.
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Speaker 1: That is Celist, that is cleist a few short years
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Speaker 1: after that, she's dead and I want to find out
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Speaker 1: why I'm with you.
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Speaker 2: Fisher, Hey Fisher.
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Speaker 1: Another saying, guys, the reason Steve Fisher became embroiled in
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Speaker 1: this is the owner of the DEFOURVD mansion hired him
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Speaker 1: to find out what the hay was going on.
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Speaker 2: He had.
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Speaker 1: The permission to go into the home and search where
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Speaker 1: did you find the disc?
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Speaker 5: It was left behind in the house.
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Speaker 4: They moved out pretty pretty hastily, and they left a
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Speaker 4: lot of stuff behind, and it was it wasn't it
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Speaker 4: was just a memory card from Okay, and it was
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Speaker 4: on floor and we were able to recover the images.
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Speaker 5: From it, so it's just not behind, you know.
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Speaker 4: And but they it was a very quick move on,
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Speaker 4: and they left a tremendous amount of stuff behind it,
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Speaker 4: including the burncage, including the chainsaw, and you know a
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Speaker 4: lot of things.
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Speaker 2: So it's fund Let me ask you something on that disc.
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Speaker 1: You said there are about eleven hundred images, including D
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Speaker 1: FOURVD and NEO lying in bed together where they clothed.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes there were, and photos of them curled up
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Speaker 2: together on a sofa were they clothed.
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Speaker 4: They were, And a lot of these have already hit
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Speaker 4: the internet because some of these you he actually took
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Speaker 4: off the camera and posted, you know, like you're showing
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Speaker 4: on screen. Now, these are the type of images, but
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Speaker 4: the focus seems to be between him and his relationship
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Speaker 4: with him.
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Speaker 2: Were there any women on there?
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Speaker 1: Any naked photos of women or is it all neo
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Speaker 1: and DEFOURVD?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no provocative photos of women. Got him in
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Speaker 4: the background, actually of him.
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Speaker 5: And neo.
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Speaker 2: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: Let me be clear, Steve Fisher, let me see Steve Fisher.
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Speaker 1: I don't care who is whose boyfriend or girlfriend, or
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Speaker 1: who's sleeping together, who's not sleeping together, really don't care.
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Speaker 1: What I care about is if there is an unbreakable
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Speaker 1: bond between Neo Langston and David Anthony.
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Speaker 2: Burke also known as D four VD.
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Speaker 1: Because if there is an unbreakable bond, I'm not going
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Speaker 1: to get anything out of Langston. He's not going to
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Speaker 1: give it up. And if he's only being charged with
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Speaker 1: failure to appear as a material witness, that's a very
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Speaker 1: light sentence. He'll be in and out in no time
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Speaker 1: for basically a can tipped charge.
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Speaker 2: So bottom line, he's going to have to.
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Speaker 1: Be given immunity, And the reason he has to be
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Speaker 1: given immunity is if you're a target, you can take
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Speaker 1: the fifth the Fifth Amendment right to remain silent. If
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Speaker 1: the state says, okay, you've got immunity, we can't prosecute
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Speaker 1: you under the law, you can no longer take the
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Speaker 1: Fifth Amendment.
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Speaker 2: So what you said at the get go is correct.
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Speaker 2: Trying to find out if he's getting an immunity deal.
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Speaker 1: Is he going to be a co defendant because if
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Speaker 1: he's along for the ride, that's aiding in a betting,
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Speaker 1: you know, slam dunk or is it more okay? While
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Speaker 1: I've got Fisher up on the screen, isn't it true,
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Speaker 1: Steve Fisher that you amassed ring him and other video
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Speaker 1: of the neighborhood as D fourvd's.
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Speaker 2: Tesla was moved from spot to spot? Isn't that true?
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Speaker 5: Yes, it's true.
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Speaker 1: And isn't it also true that you saw the face of.
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Speaker 2: Who was driving the tasla? Isn't that true? That is true.
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Speaker 4: I can't say we've been through this before. I I
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Speaker 4: can't it will come out. I can't listen. I don't
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Speaker 4: want to take the chance of somebody this is there's
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Speaker 4: there's somebody taking justice in their own hands.
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Speaker 5: In that that's really a possibility.
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Speaker 1: And well if it wasn't Neo, then why would people
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Speaker 1: take justice into their own hands?
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Speaker 4: Well, until we know, you know, what people's roles are
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Speaker 4: and whoever the driver was, you know, shouldn't I don't
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Speaker 4: think people should be you know, I think it needs
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Speaker 4: to go through the core process. And I would hate
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Speaker 4: to be responsible for breting name out there and then
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Speaker 4: somebody getting hurt because somebody there was vigilanting justice.
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Speaker 2: You'd be You're worried about putting who out there?
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Speaker 5: Anybody anybody that happened Tesla that day?
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Speaker 2: I think you said him. Have you handed all this
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Speaker 2: over to the LAPD?
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Speaker 4: Of course, yeah, it was that we handed it over,
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Speaker 4: you know, the day that we did it with a report,
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Speaker 4: you know, of breaking down frame by frame.
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Speaker 2: Got another question for you, even though you're not point
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Speaker 2: blank giving me a name, Steve Fisher.
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Speaker 1: Was it just one person moving the car or did
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Speaker 1: that person come with.
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Speaker 2: A buddy? Were two people moving the car at the
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Speaker 2: same time?
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Speaker 5: No, I will say it was one person.
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Speaker 1: One person every time the car was moved, because it
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Speaker 1: was moved several times. Was that always the same person
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Speaker 1: moving the car.
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Speaker 4: So we only have a surveillance that of being moved
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Speaker 4: that last day, which was July twenty ninth, third exciping
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Speaker 4: me right now, the last day which is the day
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Speaker 4: they left for tour.
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Speaker 5: We only have this so that we have reports from
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Speaker 5: neighbors of.
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Speaker 4: Where the car was parked back in May and stuff,
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Speaker 4: but that surrounds unfortunately that had been overridden.
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Speaker 8: An out of state warrant issued by LAPD is a
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Speaker 8: failure to appear when Langston fails to appear as a
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Speaker 8: mandated witness for a grand jury in the homicide of Celeste.
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Speaker 8: Montana police assist LAPD when Langston captured at his mother's
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Speaker 8: house in Helena. Langston taken to Lewis and Clark County Jail,
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Speaker 8: held without bond before being transferred into the custody of LAPD,
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Speaker 8: extradited to la and booked a.
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Speaker 2: Plea deal in the works. That's the question tonight.
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Speaker 1: This after the arrest of D four VD David Anthony
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Speaker 1: Burk's best friend and running buddy Neo Langston aka Neo
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Speaker 1: aka Neo the Asian Okay straight back out to Steve Fisher,
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Speaker 1: joining us private investigator hired by the owner of D
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Speaker 1: fourvd's mansion. Steve Fisher, you mentioned immunity when you first
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Speaker 1: started talking. Why did you say that. What are your
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Speaker 1: sources telling you?
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Speaker 5: Well, I just think that if they were, if indeed.
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Speaker 4: This is for a grand jury failure to hear, if
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Speaker 4: they need him, I think they're bringing him in as
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Speaker 4: a witness and not as a target. And I think
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Speaker 4: he would have gotten a target letter, and like you
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Speaker 4: said earlier, you know he'd lead the fifth So if
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Speaker 4: they need him and he's got information, that means the
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Speaker 4: he's made yet in my mind, and he'd probably offered immunity,
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Speaker 4: and I just can't leave at the point.
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Speaker 5: And five months later, and.
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Speaker 4: With all the digital evidences out there that they need
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Speaker 4: his testimony.
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Speaker 5: But if they do, then I'm afraid for the case
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Speaker 5: to be honest.
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Speaker 1: And there you see Nea lyingston handcuffed, he hands behind him,
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Speaker 1: with armed law enforcement wearing tech gear, putting him in
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Speaker 1: the back of a cruiser. That's where our friends at
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Speaker 1: the Independent record And again I find it really hard
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Speaker 1: to believe that he is just coming in to discuss
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Speaker 1: his relationship with DFOURVD.
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Speaker 2: Under Mommy's bed.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Cheryl Eric joining us clinical forensic psychologist find her
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Speaker 1: at Creative e m d R dot com.
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Speaker 2: Doctor Eric, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: Why does everybody go home and hide out at mommy's house?
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Speaker 2: I mean, I've said a million times at.
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Speaker 1: A BF calendar bond forfeitter, here's his mom's address.
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Speaker 2: Just go straight out there, all wait, he'll be back
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Speaker 2: in about twenty minutes.
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Speaker 9: Why that is such a great question, Nancy and I
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Speaker 9: think it's because it is the safest place in the
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Speaker 9: person's mind when they are running and they don't know
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Speaker 9: where else to go, running to mom is the place
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Speaker 9: to be. And you're right, it could save everybody a
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Speaker 9: lot of time to just head right there. Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: Alexis Tereschuk joining us. They're in LA Crime Stories. Investigative
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Speaker 1: reporter Alexis what do we know about Neo Langston? What
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Speaker 1: do we know about his relationship with D four VD?
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Speaker 1: What do we know about a potential plea down, plea
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Speaker 1: deal going down for either him, Langston or Burke.
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Speaker 10: What we know about him is Neo Langston is a
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Speaker 10: Twitch streamer, so he plays video games online and other
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Speaker 10: people join him and watch him. Super popular, very well known.
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Speaker 10: He and D four VD are best friends. Some people
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Speaker 10: think that he's actually his assistant, so he would help
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Speaker 10: him out with everything, you know, with travel and business
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Speaker 10: and booking anything for him. Not his record label, just
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Speaker 10: his personal assistant. They are together all the time. They're
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Speaker 10: constantly together, photos, videos, appearances, live. He was there by
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Speaker 10: his side for a very long time. The plea deal
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Speaker 10: we are is just coming to like perhaps there may
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Speaker 10: be one. The thing is he has only been charged
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Speaker 10: with failing to appear as a witness, nothing else. And
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Speaker 10: as you remember in court a couple months ago, there
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Speaker 10: was concern there that this witness didn't show up.
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Speaker 11: It stopped the grand jury proceedings.
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Speaker 10: D four vd's representative from his record label was saying, well,
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Speaker 10: I don't know what I'm supposed to be doing here.
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Speaker 10: I didn't I wasn't the one that was in charge
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Speaker 10: of like turning him into the police or anything like that.
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Speaker 10: But the prosecutors really wanted to speak to this friend
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Speaker 10: length he did not show up.
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Speaker 11: They expected him to show up. They were all in
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Speaker 11: court that day.
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Speaker 10: So it took a couple of weeks for the LAPD
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Speaker 10: to get the warrant and have it served in his
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Speaker 10: house in Montana or his mom's house in Montana. There
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Speaker 10: so far has not been any release of a plea deal.
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Speaker 10: And again he was only brought here just because he
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Speaker 10: failed to appear as a witness. So the prosecutors want
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Speaker 10: to talk to him. They want to know exactly what
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Speaker 10: he saw when he was in this house because he
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Speaker 10: appears to be D four vd's closest friend.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I like says to restaurant. I hear
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Speaker 2: what you're saying.
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Speaker 1: But he can be a witness today and a defendant
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Speaker 1: tomorrow based on what happen happens at this juncture.
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Speaker 2: Many times you and I have.
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Speaker 1: Investigated and covered cases where we start off with one
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Speaker 1: charge and it morphs into something much more serious. The
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Speaker 1: only thing that makes me believe he will remain a
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Speaker 1: witness is because he was called to testify, and you
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Speaker 1: can't make a target testify.
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Speaker 10: And the thing is he is seen so much more
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Speaker 10: with him than Celestie ever was.
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Speaker 11: There's so very few pictures of Celestia.
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Speaker 10: The last one we have is from over a year
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Speaker 10: ago at this point, really almost two years. But he,
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Speaker 10: NEO and D four VED are together all the time,
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Speaker 10: so he may just have seen something.
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Speaker 11: They just want to talk.
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Speaker 10: To him right now, But he refused to come into
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Speaker 10: the grand jury, led the state hit out with his mom,
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Speaker 10: but then the LAPD brought him back.
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Speaker 12: They got a charge at LAPD that you would not believe.
20:55
Speaker 12: They've got this thing down to a timeline that's almost
20:59
Speaker 12: by the minute. It's triangulated to the location, if you
21:04
Speaker 12: can believe that. And it's not just one source. When
21:07
Speaker 12: I say triangulated, it's media, social media, cell phone, tesla,
21:15
Speaker 12: other and I'll qualify. All I'll say is other kind
21:20
Speaker 12: of GPS tracking.
21:23
Speaker 1: Devices from our friends at two Angry Men eleven and
21:27
Speaker 1: year Agos.
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Speaker 5: You know, we also found the chainsaw.
21:31
Speaker 3: What would be the purpose of someone happiness? I'm sure
21:34
Speaker 3: the shrubs are lovely.
21:36
Speaker 5: They didn't have to do any of their own yard work.
21:39
Speaker 1: They did not seize the chainsaw, they did not fingerprint them,
21:42
Speaker 1: they did not illumine all them. I mean, that's bad,
21:45
Speaker 1: bad police work, right there? A plea deal in the
21:49
Speaker 1: works in the death and disposal of a teen girls,
21:53
Speaker 1: Celeste Rivas. This as the Very Best Friend of D
21:59
Speaker 1: four v D aka David Anthony Burke is caught at
22:01
Speaker 1: his mother's house in Helena, Montana and brought back to LAPD,
22:06
Speaker 1: who is neo Langston.
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Speaker 8: Neo Langston is not only a close friend of Burke,
22:11
Speaker 8: but is also a popular twitch streamer, often referred to
22:14
Speaker 8: as Neo the Asian. Neo is known for his high speed,
22:18
Speaker 8: energetic streaming persona and vlogs featuring his buddy Burke.
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Speaker 1: You are seeing video now of Neo Langston Andy four
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Speaker 1: VD straight out to Forensics expert Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University,
22:32
Speaker 1: author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, and star
22:35
Speaker 1: of a hit podcast, Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan.
22:40
Speaker 1: More important is the fact that he is a death
22:43
Speaker 1: investigator who has investigated over ten thousand death scenes, be
22:49
Speaker 1: the accidental natural causes, suicide unexplained, or homicide. Tonight a
22:57
Speaker 1: huge step forward in the investigation. What does what impact
23:03
Speaker 1: does this have forensically all the case now that we
23:07
Speaker 1: know Langstone has been brought back to the jurisdiction and
23:11
Speaker 1: will testify in front of the grand jury. What forensically
23:15
Speaker 1: does that mean? What would you be looking for now?
23:20
Speaker 3: Okay, this is very critical and here's why. I just
23:22
Speaker 3: give me a little bit of rope here, Nancy. The
23:24
Speaker 3: idea that all of these people we're talking about celess
23:28
Speaker 3: who you know, seems to get lost in the mix here,
23:32
Speaker 3: this child. They're all living at this same address, and
23:37
Speaker 3: when we as investigators begin to peer into what has happened,
23:43
Speaker 3: we begin to talk about all of the principles that
23:46
Speaker 3: are involved in this in this environment. So what points
23:49
Speaker 3: of contact are there relative to her and all of
23:53
Speaker 3: these other subjects in the house. I think that it's
23:55
Speaker 3: critical with Langston because look, he is at the house
24:00
Speaker 3: this over and over and over again, very frequently. So
24:04
Speaker 3: you're telling me that suddenly she up and vaporizes, and
24:08
Speaker 3: you don't have any questions about, hey, what happened to Celeste?
24:12
Speaker 3: And so if he has knowledge of what happened, if
24:15
Speaker 3: there's any kind of any kind of talk that happens
24:20
Speaker 3: in this very intimate environment, well yeah we saw her,
24:23
Speaker 3: but now she's not here, or maybe somebody just makes
24:26
Speaker 3: an off the cuff statement. It's like the last time
24:28
Speaker 3: I saw her, she was in the bathroom and then
24:31
Speaker 3: she disappeared. I want to know how many times have
24:35
Speaker 3: they seen her in the past, was there any kind
24:39
Speaker 3: of trauma that they've ever witnessed that was inflicted upon her?
24:43
Speaker 3: Because I'm going to go to those specific locations and
24:46
Speaker 3: look for any kind of trace elements that are left behind.
24:49
Speaker 3: He is a major thread in this case because he
24:52
Speaker 3: has intimate knowledge of her movements through the house. What
24:56
Speaker 3: space did she occupy when she slept in this house?
25:00
Speaker 3: Is there any and is it very specific? And also
25:03
Speaker 3: are there any tools around the house that we weren't
25:06
Speaker 3: aware of at the particular time. Steve's talked extensively about
25:10
Speaker 3: chainsaws and burn cages and all this other stuff, and
25:13
Speaker 3: he said that a lot of stuff had been left behind.
25:15
Speaker 3: I'm curious as to what may have been taken away
25:18
Speaker 3: from there to facilitate hang onto it the utility of
25:23
Speaker 3: a dismemberment, Nancy. I want to know what did they
25:27
Speaker 3: have at their disposal and who else was in that house, you.
25:30
Speaker 1: Know, I'm very curious also, Joscott Morgan. They've brought Neil
25:34
Speaker 1: Langston back to the jurisdiction rousted him out of his
25:38
Speaker 1: mom's house. They've got to have his fingerprints, So were
25:44
Speaker 1: his fingerprints on any of these items such as the
25:49
Speaker 1: burn cage, such as the implements used to well, you
25:54
Speaker 1: know what I've got, Steve Fisher, the implements that you
25:58
Speaker 1: found there, in addition to a burn cage which I
26:00
Speaker 1: believe you say gets up to sixteen hundred degrees. You
26:05
Speaker 1: were concerned about other implements, seemingly farm implements that could
26:10
Speaker 1: be used in the dismemberment of a body. Now they've
26:13
Speaker 1: got Neo Langston. I don't think he had a record
26:16
Speaker 1: for any reason to give a fingerprint up until now,
26:20
Speaker 1: but now they have his fingerprints. What do you think
26:23
Speaker 1: they're doing with those prints right now, Steve Fisher?
26:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, I suppose they're probably comparing them against probably prints
26:32
Speaker 4: from the Tesla, from places you know, in the house
26:37
Speaker 4: the burn cage wasn't open, but the chainsaw was out
26:40
Speaker 4: of its packaging.
26:41
Speaker 5: There was also, I'll tell you that there was knives.
26:46
Speaker 5: David seem to have this infatuation with knives.
26:49
Speaker 4: There's a lot of pictures of him with like I
26:51
Speaker 4: don't know if there's switch blades, but switch blade looking knives,
26:53
Speaker 4: and there was I'll tell you there was one. And
26:57
Speaker 4: that was on a shelf in a closet, in a bowl,
27:00
Speaker 4: and that.
27:02
Speaker 5: Was so I think they'll compare prints against things like that.
27:06
Speaker 2: What did you say was in a closet in a bowl.
27:08
Speaker 4: There was a there was a knife and listen, I
27:11
Speaker 4: will say that I used a blue Star and didn't
27:15
Speaker 4: come back with anything.
27:15
Speaker 5: But there was just a there was a knife, a.
27:22
Speaker 4: One thing would use for like, you know, flaying, and
27:27
Speaker 4: it was in Sicilian a bowl on a shelf, in
27:30
Speaker 4: a posit, but nothing else in it, nothing else in
27:33
Speaker 4: the closet besides that.
27:34
Speaker 2: You know.
27:35
Speaker 1: That leads me to a question to doctor Cheryl Errett.
27:38
Speaker 1: Here is a guy who's basically raised.
27:42
Speaker 2: In the lap of luxury.
27:44
Speaker 1: His dad is a digital expert lawyer who is handling
27:50
Speaker 1: the digital evidence for very high profile cases.
27:55
Speaker 2: All right, so why does he pose himself as like
28:00
Speaker 2: right out of Compton? What's that all about?
28:02
Speaker 9: He's a rapper, he's you know, he is. I think
28:09
Speaker 9: very has been very popular and understands the culture. And
28:17
Speaker 9: I think that that he the way that he was
28:20
Speaker 9: living was consistent with being privileged and also being in
28:24
Speaker 9: that community. And so I don't really see any discrepancy
28:29
Speaker 9: in that.
28:30
Speaker 5: I do have some.
28:32
Speaker 2: Okay, so have you ever been a Compton.
28:35
Speaker 9: What I mean is I don't see any discrepancy between
28:38
Speaker 9: him being in rap culture and being privileged. I understand
28:42
Speaker 9: that he wasn't living like he was in Compton, of course, Okay.
28:46
Speaker 1: Joanna Nieva's joining us, criminal defense attorney, founder of the
28:49
Speaker 1: Nievs Law Firm.
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Speaker 2: He is assuming the persona of a badass rapper. Okay,
28:58
Speaker 2: he is a privileged kid. His parents fed him with
29:01
Speaker 2: a silver spoon. What's with that?
29:05
Speaker 7: I mean, I think we can't blame him for his
29:07
Speaker 7: artistic expression, right, this is exactly that a persona. It's
29:11
Speaker 7: attracting fans, it's attracting viewers, it's what gets it gets paid.
29:16
Speaker 7: But it doesn't necessarily mean that that's who he is
29:19
Speaker 7: at the core, and that he can be prosecuted for
29:21
Speaker 7: what he put on display in his concerts or his performances.
29:25
Speaker 1: Okay, So I don't believe anyone suggested that he's going
29:29
Speaker 1: to be prosecuted for his performances.
29:31
Speaker 2: His performances are great.
29:33
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is he had a completely different persona
29:37
Speaker 1: than who he actually really is. Okay, you know too,
29:41
Speaker 1: Just Scott Morgan joining us. Now that back to where
29:44
Speaker 1: we started here. I took us on a circuitous route
29:48
Speaker 1: back to where we started. Neil Langston was arrested and fingerprinted.
29:52
Speaker 1: We have the Prince, Now what do we do.
29:56
Speaker 3: I'm going after DNA hands down. As a matter of fact,
30:01
Speaker 3: anybody that occupied the space. I'm getting a buckle mwcoastal
30:05
Speaker 3: swab off of them. And also I would hope that
30:11
Speaker 3: this scene has been thoroughly searched, that it was sampled
30:14
Speaker 3: by law enforcement for any other sources of DNA, and Nancy,
30:19
Speaker 3: listen to me, and listen to me good. I'm going
30:22
Speaker 3: to go here in this particular case, I'm not just
30:25
Speaker 3: merely talking about touch DNA. I want to know if
30:28
Speaker 3: there's any seminal deposition around this place. I want to
30:31
Speaker 3: know who it links back to. I want to know
30:34
Speaker 3: who was there, because, as far as I'm concerned Celestia's case,
30:39
Speaker 3: it's got a it has a flavor to it relative
30:44
Speaker 3: to the way she was treated. She's objectified, she is dismembered.
30:49
Speaker 3: I think that they treated her like she is a playtoy.
30:53
Speaker 3: And I want to know in intimate spaces around that house, bedrooms, sheets, toilets.
31:00
Speaker 3: I don't care where it is. You pursue this as
31:03
Speaker 3: fully as you possibly can, and as my granddaddy used
31:07
Speaker 3: to say, let the hide come with a hair. Whoever's there,
31:10
Speaker 3: we're going to develop a profile on them, and they're
31:12
Speaker 3: going to be brought in for questioning. Now some of
31:14
Speaker 3: the stuff is going to be very passive. You know,
31:17
Speaker 3: you can have touch DNA and I think the defense
31:19
Speaker 3: attorneys will argue this, Well, they occupied the space, so
31:22
Speaker 3: you would expect to find But you have to consider
31:24
Speaker 3: the source of the DNA what is it because some
31:27
Speaker 3: things are richer than others. We've got tons of cases
31:30
Speaker 3: out here, Nancy. We're solving them now based upon seminal
31:34
Speaker 3: deposition that took place years and years ago. It all
31:38
Speaker 3: depends on how far the investigators and scientists are willing
31:41
Speaker 3: to go in this particular case.
31:44
Speaker 1: J Scott, you keep referring to touch DNA and siminal deposition.
31:48
Speaker 1: You're throwing around a lot of highly technical forensic terms.
31:54
Speaker 1: When you say siminal fluid, you mean sperm, which suggests
31:58
Speaker 1: sex activity.
32:00
Speaker 3: I'm talking about.
32:00
Speaker 9: Yeah.
32:01
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Now, when you're talking about touching DNA, could you
32:05
Speaker 1: explain that as only you can do so?
32:07
Speaker 5: Well?
32:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love to. So Listen, the Jurgons has
32:13
Speaker 3: made tons and tons of money right off of dry skin.
32:16
Speaker 3: The reason we have dry skin is that we have
32:19
Speaker 3: dead skin cells that we slough every day. People don't
32:23
Speaker 3: realize this. You sluugh thousands of these things, all of
32:27
Speaker 3: the time. So when you touch a surface, you can
32:30
Speaker 3: actually leave behind a skin cell and it's not going
32:35
Speaker 3: to be a complete DNA molecule. It's going to be fragmented,
32:40
Speaker 3: but it can be amplified and you can develop a
32:43
Speaker 3: profile on that. That's why I'm drawing this difference between
32:47
Speaker 3: the sourcing of the DNA. Okay, so yeah, you would
32:51
Speaker 3: expect somebody that's touching a doorknob, a counter, those sorts
32:55
Speaker 3: of things, or even handling you know, cook wear, knives, cutlery,
32:59
Speaker 3: anything like that, you could find touch DNA in these environments.
33:03
Speaker 3: But it's a completely different animal when you begin to
33:06
Speaker 3: think about bodily fluids. All right, we're at another level
33:10
Speaker 3: at this point, and so we would have questions relative
33:13
Speaker 3: to this. Maybe it means nothing, but you know, as
33:16
Speaker 3: you know as an attorney, if you never asked a question,
33:19
Speaker 3: you never get an answer. And so that's going to
33:22
Speaker 3: be up to them to see how thoroughly they've investigated
33:25
Speaker 3: the space and if they can tie this back to
33:27
Speaker 3: anybody that's in there.
33:29
Speaker 6: Burke has a very small circle of friends, and even
33:31
Speaker 6: though the friends have not been named publicly, police know
33:34
Speaker 6: where each friend lived inside the house rented for Burke.
33:38
Speaker 6: Investigators have triangulated signals of all cell phones, social media,
33:42
Speaker 6: the Tesla and more for Burke's inner circle. Neil Langston
33:46
Speaker 6: is one of those people in the inner circle, having
33:48
Speaker 6: been close to Burke for years, sharing time and space,
33:51
Speaker 6: creating digital content.
33:53
Speaker 1: In vlocks, we're learning and indictment looms and it is
33:57
Speaker 1: a homicide indictment and the a similator doesn't.
34:00
Speaker 2: Show what they're like. Hell, you know, put it in
34:03
Speaker 2: the trunk, back up and punt.
34:06
Speaker 5: I don't think these are geniuses by any means.
34:10
Speaker 1: Tonight the last known photo of Celeste Rivas and what
34:15
Speaker 1: does it prove? It was found by none other than
34:19
Speaker 1: private investigator Steve Fisher. Tell me about the photo and
34:22
Speaker 1: how you were managed, how you managed to date it.
34:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it was it was a photo that was
34:29
Speaker 4: on the card that we found and the EXIF metadata
34:33
Speaker 4: that's embedded inside the photo shows that it was taken
34:37
Speaker 4: January second, twenty five at five oh five pm at
34:44
Speaker 4: Baldwin Hill's. The scene of overlooking this picture is always
34:49
Speaker 4: really hard for me to look at because she just
34:52
Speaker 4: looks so lost and confused and you know, fourteen years
34:56
Speaker 4: old and some guy has lured her into this life
35:00
Speaker 4: away from her family and school, and she just looks sad,
35:04
Speaker 4: you know, And it's just it's really hard picture for
35:06
Speaker 4: me to look at.
35:10
Speaker 1: When you say lost and alone, what do you mean
35:14
Speaker 1: by that somebody was with or someone took that photo
35:18
Speaker 1: on whose digit camp was it taken?
35:22
Speaker 5: Yeah?
35:22
Speaker 4: I just been lost in the one like she's got
35:24
Speaker 4: herself in the situation where David David listened, David took this,
35:27
Speaker 4: this this photo, and I don't think she was happy anymore.
35:30
Speaker 4: And you know, I think at the beginning it was
35:33
Speaker 4: probably oh, there's this celebrity or whatever. But now now
35:36
Speaker 4: she's been brought into this world. But that for a girl,
35:39
Speaker 4: she just looks like she's just defeated.
35:42
Speaker 1: To me, this fourteen year old girl did and dismembered
35:46
Speaker 1: decomposing in the trunk of David Anthony Burke. That Tesla
35:52
Speaker 1: moved repeatedly to avoid getting Toad. Ultimately it was Toad
35:58
Speaker 1: and that's the only reason her body was even found.
36:02
Speaker 2: It was in such a state.
36:05
Speaker 1: We believe that no cod can't be determined cause of death.
36:11
Speaker 1: Before I go to Joe Scott Morgan on that issue,
36:14
Speaker 1: Steve Fisher, you stated that this photo is believed to
36:17
Speaker 1: be the last known photo.
36:19
Speaker 2: Take it off.
36:20
Speaker 1: Celeste in life January two, twenty twenty five, in the
36:25
Speaker 1: late afternoon, just before dark.
36:28
Speaker 2: Where is the photo taken.
36:31
Speaker 4: Baldwin Hill's Scenk Overlook, which is kind of like in
36:34
Speaker 4: the heart of La here, it's kind of in between
36:39
Speaker 4: Hollywood Hills and Lax.
36:41
Speaker 1: And you're stating that this was taken on Burk's camera
36:45
Speaker 1: or cell phone?
36:46
Speaker 5: You think it was taken on a camera and on
36:49
Speaker 5: a cell phone.
36:50
Speaker 4: He had a standalone EO or camera that was DSLR.
36:57
Speaker 2: Okay, what do we believe?
37:00
Speaker 1: What have we been led to believe Steve Fisher about
37:04
Speaker 1: the approximate date of her death?
37:09
Speaker 4: So this photo is the last one that we're aware of.
37:14
Speaker 4: LAPD may have the more. I just will make that clear.
37:17
Speaker 4: But January second, twenty twenty five, and I'll tell you
37:22
Speaker 4: shortly after that, the behavior of the Tesla, the Black
37:26
Speaker 4: Tesla changes. There's no more photos of it appearing in
37:30
Speaker 4: David's Instagram like it used to. And then on February first,
37:35
Speaker 4: a new Tesla is least And so I think, you know,
37:41
Speaker 4: I think something could have happened in January. I mean,
37:44
Speaker 4: I know investigators have thrown around like April time, but
37:48
Speaker 4: I think it could go back as far as January.
37:51
Speaker 1: What date approximately do you believe the tesla started moving
37:55
Speaker 1: around in the neighborhood. And we were misled at the
37:59
Speaker 1: get go by our own calculations. We were basing time
38:04
Speaker 1: of death connecting it to when that tesla started moving around.
38:10
Speaker 2: But that may or may not be true. It may
38:12
Speaker 2: be arbitrary.
38:13
Speaker 1: She may have been dead long before she was put
38:16
Speaker 1: in the car trunk or long before it.
38:18
Speaker 2: Started moving around the neighborhood.
38:21
Speaker 1: So what's our best guest, our best educated guest about
38:26
Speaker 1: her date of death? Steve Fisher, what do you think?
38:30
Speaker 4: I think it goes back to January and now people
38:33
Speaker 4: note and the security private security company note that around
38:37
Speaker 4: May is when the tesla starts moving around. But keep
38:40
Speaker 4: in mind the temperatures in January February are really you know,
38:45
Speaker 4: they're very cool. So if she's in that front trunk,
38:48
Speaker 4: I'll tell you that the neighbors across the street.
38:53
Speaker 5: Reported to me that they had a dog die.
38:56
Speaker 4: In February and they buried that dog in the backyard
38:58
Speaker 4: and they were getting this fact odor which is right
39:01
Speaker 4: next to where the tesla would work anytime the temperture
39:04
Speaker 4: would gt above about like seventy five degrees. They thought
39:06
Speaker 4: they didn't bury the dog deep enough, and this dog
39:09
Speaker 4: died February twenty second.
39:11
Speaker 1: So okay, wait, well, wait, wait is this going where
39:15
Speaker 1: I think it's going. You're saying that the stench of
39:19
Speaker 1: celeste decomposing body, this little girl was mistaken for a
39:24
Speaker 1: dead dog that had been buried.
39:27
Speaker 4: Well, they were getting this odor in the backyard and
39:28
Speaker 4: they were going to rebury the dog. And then once
39:32
Speaker 4: this all went down and the tesla disappeared, they didn't
39:35
Speaker 4: have to rebury the dog.
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Speaker 13: Smelting Away Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, My Stars, Joe
39:50
Speaker 13: Scott Morgan, this little girl's remains, because of the stench,
39:59
Speaker 13: was confused.
40:00
Speaker 2: For a dead dog that had been buried.
40:04
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what, Joe Scott, Just when I
40:07
Speaker 1: think I've heard it all and seen it all, something
40:10
Speaker 1: new happens that just drops on my head like a bomb.
40:15
Speaker 2: The thought of people confusing the smell of her decomposing.
40:20
Speaker 1: Body with that of a dog buried in a yard.
40:23
Speaker 1: I mean, do you not see the poigancy of that?
40:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it certainly is. And again that goes back
40:30
Speaker 3: to an earlier comment I bade about objectification of her
40:34
Speaker 3: remains well of her I think probably in life, but
40:37
Speaker 3: also remains how they're treated. But Nancy, let me drop
40:41
Speaker 3: this on you. I was just thinking about this because
40:43
Speaker 3: I want to go chasing rabbits here. But you know,
40:45
Speaker 3: with rex Huerman, there's a hearing that's coming up relative
40:49
Speaker 3: to the unidentified Asian male that they have, and you
40:53
Speaker 3: know what they're going to be using to determine postmortem
40:56
Speaker 3: interval in that case. They're going to be taking the
41:00
Speaker 3: microbial life in that individual's remains and trying to do
41:05
Speaker 3: build out a succession. And did you know that there's
41:08
Speaker 3: been a lot of success with this with decomposing bodies.
41:11
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, it's more accurate than say
41:15
Speaker 3: things that we do relative to you know, riger mortis
41:19
Speaker 3: live or mortis, all these sorts of things, because you're
41:21
Speaker 3: going into the gut of these microbes that live in there,
41:24
Speaker 3: and we can profile the DNA and you can put
41:27
Speaker 3: a much tighter tighter timeline utilizing this. I'm wondering if
41:33
Speaker 3: what kind of sampling has been done relative to this,
41:37
Speaker 3: because these microbes in dwell within our body and they
41:41
Speaker 3: continue to live even in death, and so you can
41:44
Speaker 3: do a succession. It's kind of like entomology, but much
41:47
Speaker 3: more specific. And you couple that with the smells that
41:52
Speaker 3: we're emanating, You couple that with a lot of circumstantial
41:55
Speaker 3: information that we're getting relative to when she's last known
41:59
Speaker 3: a lot, and you begin to kind of tighten down
42:02
Speaker 3: that window. And that's going to be the big thing here,
42:05
Speaker 3: because we've got this huge, mysterious gap in time. You know,
42:09
Speaker 3: we've heard things all the way from spring.
42:13
Speaker 1: You have put it in death con four, yet again,
42:18
Speaker 1: put the brakes on it, Nelly, hold on. When you
42:20
Speaker 1: say microbial lifetime a timeline, you are stating that based
42:26
Speaker 1: on the gut micro organisms in her body, in her stomach,
42:32
Speaker 1: they can date.
42:35
Speaker 2: The time of her death, much like here's a good.
42:39
Speaker 1: Comparison from my lay person point of view, forensic etymology.
42:45
Speaker 1: Based on the date and the development of maggots from
42:52
Speaker 1: being tiny eggs to turning into maggots to turning into
42:55
Speaker 1: full on blowflies, you can tell how long the body's
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Speaker 1: been here. That's how I compare a microbial timeline. Would
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Speaker 1: you say that's an accurate comparison.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's accurate. But this is that's an accurate comparison.
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Speaker 3: But what I'm talking about is much more specific. Now,
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that they could utilize this to bring
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Speaker 3: it down to the very minute that this happened, but
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Speaker 3: with this succession that takes place in the microbial life, got.
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Speaker 1: It, which leads me to the next point. The next
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Speaker 1: point is take a look at this concert video. If
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Speaker 1: Steve Fisher and Joe Scott Morgan are correct, did defour
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Speaker 1: VID's camp go so far as to plant a Celeste
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Speaker 1: look alike at concerts and in public to throw everyone
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Speaker 1: off the trail to obscure the fact that Celeste was dead.
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Speaker 2: From clips of David Wow give out precisions against two
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Speaker 2: eyes gives a super smart Apparently the past five school
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Speaker 2: has been like these arts schools that.
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Speaker 5: I like, super cool elections or what not. That's my fans.
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Speaker 5: I guess you on the ground. One little well.
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Speaker 8: Police Burke on video loitering around high schools without permission,
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Speaker 8: trying to get attention of high school students who saw
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Speaker 8: posts on social media that Burke would be around the
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Speaker 8: school giving out scissor tickets as part of a scavenger
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Speaker 8: hunt in light of the death of Celest Burke having
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Speaker 8: unfettered access to underage girls without permission from the school
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Speaker 8: is shocking.
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Speaker 1: Why is David Anthony Burke an adult hanging around with
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Speaker 1: unfettered access to high school high school girls and boys?
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Speaker 2: Isn't that where Celeste was before?
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Speaker 1: Or she got plucked out and ended up living with
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Speaker 1: Burke and all of his cohorts in his mansion. This
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Speaker 1: is from the David Gaming you. This is from David
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Speaker 1: Gaming YouTube.
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Speaker 2: Alexis Teresha.
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Speaker 1: What is he doing at high schools without any chaperone?
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Speaker 2: Nothing?
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Speaker 10: What he's trying to do is get attention for himself
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Speaker 10: and to cause an online a viral stir. He's handing
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Speaker 10: out concert tickets. He's putting up social media post saying, Hey,
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Speaker 10: I'm outside the school in Philadelphia, come out. I'll give
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Speaker 10: you guys tickets. It's part of a scavenger hunt. It's
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Speaker 10: really just trying to.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I know that much. I just heard that.
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Speaker 2: I'm saying, he's not. Let me refrain my question, your honor.
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Speaker 2: How did he get authority.
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Speaker 1: To go on a high school premises on chaperone with
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Speaker 1: all of these teams?
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Speaker 2: I mean, he doesn't does not that? Does that not
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Speaker 2: give me a window in too him. What about it,
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Speaker 2: doctor Ert?
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Speaker 9: Well, the thing that keeps striking me is that Celeste
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Speaker 9: was probably not even old enough to be going to
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Speaker 9: that high school. Nancy. She was like thirteen and just
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Speaker 9: turned fourteen when she was living in his house. And
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Speaker 9: I think when we think about somebody that young and
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Speaker 9: that vulnerable, who was surrounded by adults who were potentially
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Speaker 9: exploiting her and something so awful happened to her, I
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Speaker 9: can understand us being nervous about somebody who may be
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Speaker 9: a person of interest or a suspect being around high
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Speaker 9: school kids. I think there's a lot of investigation that
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Speaker 9: needs to happen to figure out what exactly was his
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Speaker 9: relationship with Celeste. There was that discord video at one
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Speaker 9: point where he says something about immedia trained you and
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Speaker 9: that's controversial, and then she said something about out as
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Speaker 9: controversial as raping kids and laughs in this like wildly
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Speaker 9: inappropriate way, and it really it just begs the question,
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Speaker 9: what exactly is going on?
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Speaker 2: Hey, look at this, doctor Ert.
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Speaker 1: This is Burke hanging out by a school without permission.
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Speaker 1: He's handing out merch, talking and he almost gets maced.
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Speaker 2: And this is in Baltimore.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking Steve Fisher and I don't see
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Speaker 1: any teachers or security anywhere.
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Speaker 2: What the hey?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you do see that's his manager behind him
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Speaker 4: on the left, who's co signing this too, which is
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Speaker 4: unbelievable that Morgan Rath is.
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Speaker 5: Is he wrapped up in this too?
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Speaker 1: Okay, Dave Matt Crime Stories investigative reporter, can you say
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Speaker 1: similar transaction?
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Speaker 14: To back up very quickly the videos that show him
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Speaker 14: outside the high schools. It was like some kind of
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Speaker 14: a grassroots marketing thing that they plan and purposely avoided
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Speaker 14: telling the schools are seeking permission or anything. I don't
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Speaker 14: know what the police are actually waiting for. Nancy, you
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Speaker 14: would know much more about that than I would. But
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Speaker 14: at some point in time, somebody's got to lay the
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Speaker 14: hammer down.
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Speaker 1: Guys, if you know or think you know anything about
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Speaker 1: this case, however inconsequential you think it may be, please
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Speaker 1: dial two one, three four eight six six' eight nine.
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Speaker 1: Zero we remember An american hero, Officer Donald, Sahota VANCOUVER,
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Speaker 1: pd shot in the line of, duty leaving behind a
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Speaker 1: grieving wife and two children without. Dad american Hero Officer
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Speaker 1: Donald Sahotah Nancy gray signing off goodbye, friend