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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 117 | Hot Takes for Jaguars' 2024 Home Stretch · Jags A.M.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in to Jagdam today. I'm Kindannie Stevens, branz Exton
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Speaker 1: and John Ozer are with me. We are fresh off
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Speaker 1: of bye week and we're ready to talk to Jaguars
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Speaker 1: football once again. We'll start off with big Thing number one,
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Speaker 1: which is back at It. We are back at It
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Speaker 1: week thirteen after that Week twelve by talking about football
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Speaker 1: once again. Brian, we were all kind of catching up
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Speaker 1: before the show just now about what we learned in
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Speaker 1: the bye week. I tried to stay a little bit
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Speaker 1: away from football, but you watched all the games yesterday.
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Speaker 1: What did you take away from it?
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Speaker 2: Well, and I'm going to get it. This is my
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Speaker 2: hot take.
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Speaker 3: What I got into it was that with the schedule
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Speaker 3: that's remaining for the Jaguars, there's an opportunity for them
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Speaker 3: to win some games here at the end of the year.
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Speaker 2: And I know what you're thinking, it's too little, it's
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Speaker 2: too late. John. We're not talking.
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Speaker 3: About significant games at that moment of the schedule where
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Speaker 3: you're like, that's Thanksgiving. You'd love to be playing a
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Speaker 3: game with the if this then that scenario at the
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Speaker 3: very least, and we're not. But at this point of
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Speaker 3: the year, you still have an opportunity to win some games.
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Speaker 3: Nothing has gone this team's way this year, and when
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Speaker 3: you look at the division and the schedule that's there,
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Speaker 3: there's an opportunity for them to make some things happen
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Speaker 3: for themselves.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's unfortunately you're talking about a team
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Speaker 4: that hasn't performed playing against a bunch of other teams
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Speaker 4: that haven't performed. So anything's possible, and it would give
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Speaker 4: you a better feel for the end of the season.
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Speaker 4: I think they got a chance to win Sunday. That's
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Speaker 4: sort of part of my hot take as well. Soon't
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Speaker 4: get into it, but yeah, you can come out of
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Speaker 4: here with a better feeling than what you've had in
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Speaker 4: the first what eleven games, and that's something when the
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Speaker 4: season so far is, you know, frankly been nothing.
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Speaker 3: And Kay, it's worth pointing out really if the coaches
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Speaker 3: and players come back with a little bit of energy,
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Speaker 3: like kind of we feel here, the focus of where they're.
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Speaker 2: At has got to be on these last six games.
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Speaker 3: It's human nature for people to start thinking about what
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Speaker 3: their future holds. Will they bear change, will coaches need
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Speaker 3: to move on, you know? Will players be here? Doug's
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Speaker 3: biggest challenge for this football team is to keep them
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Speaker 3: all focused on these six games and not letting just
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Speaker 3: that natural progression of what am I going to do?
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Speaker 3: Where am I going to be take over these six
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Speaker 3: games will decide that.
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Speaker 1: Good boy, Brian. I think that brings us into our
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Speaker 1: second big thing, which is no news is good news.
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Speaker 1: Now over the bye week, we did not get any news.
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Speaker 1: Going into the bye week, a lot of people expecting
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Speaker 1: their changes with the coaching staff, changes with the front office,
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Speaker 1: changes elsewhere. But now at this point, John, I think
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Speaker 1: it's clear we're not going to see any changes at
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Speaker 1: this point with the team. I know we're not big
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Speaker 1: fans of coaching changes in the middle of the season,
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Speaker 1: but to have at least that going forward and you
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Speaker 1: know kind of where the team is at at this point.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you would think to a degree it would stop
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Speaker 4: the weekly questioning after games, although.
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Speaker 2: I don't know they will stop that question quite frankly.
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Speaker 4: So it should give the players at least a feel for, Okay,
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Speaker 4: these next six weeks, as Brian talked about, we'll have
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Speaker 4: a focus, will know what we're going to be doing,
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Speaker 4: We'll know who we're going to be listening to. You
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Speaker 4: would think it gave them that is no news good news.
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Speaker 4: I guess it depends on your perspective. For a lot
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Speaker 4: of fans, it's probably not for the team. I would
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Speaker 4: guess it's at least okay, Brian.
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Speaker 3: There's a certain portion of the fan base that will
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Speaker 3: not stop asking that question. But there's a more casual
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Speaker 3: side of it that will like winning, and if you
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Speaker 3: go and you win, you won't take away the are
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Speaker 3: you going to make changes?
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Speaker 2: You'll just soften it a little.
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Speaker 3: Bit and people will focus on, Hey, they've got to
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Speaker 3: win against the Texans. Now they go and play the Titans,
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Speaker 3: So you can diminish that a little bit by winning.
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Speaker 3: You're not going to make it go away entirely, because
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Speaker 3: the dissatisfaction of a season that's not ending with the
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Speaker 3: playoff berth is not going away.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it is, and I think we'll be
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Speaker 1: talking about that for a long time even after the
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Speaker 1: season as well. So our final big thing today is
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Speaker 1: going to be home stretch. Brian. We talked a little
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Speaker 1: bit about what they could maybe do in terms of wins.
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Speaker 1: What do you want to see in terms of long
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Speaker 1: terms for the team, What do you.
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Speaker 3: Need to see from the team that focus, right, I
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Speaker 3: need to see guys who are dialed in completely on
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Speaker 3: what they've got to do week to week and not
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Speaker 3: And you guys have both been in locker rooms for
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Speaker 3: a long time. You know what that look in their
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Speaker 3: eye is when they're not all the way into it.
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Speaker 3: We always joke that the last game of the year
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Speaker 3: the cars running in the parking lot. I want to
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Speaker 3: make sure that the car keys are in the locker
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Speaker 3: and not in the car, and that these guys are
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Speaker 3: drilled down into what Doug and his coaching staff are doing.
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Speaker 2: I want to see him win games.
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Speaker 3: You've got time here, You've got a schedule, You've got
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Speaker 3: you've got four games against the division, the Raiders and
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Speaker 3: the Jets. I mean, that's not what you just came
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Speaker 3: through with the best teams in the NFC. I mean,
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Speaker 3: like Packers yesterday were great, Vikings came from behind to win.
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Speaker 3: The Eagles have won seven in a row and are
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Speaker 3: now nine and two, and the Lions are ten and
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Speaker 3: one for the first time since nineteen thirty four. Right,
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Speaker 3: you just came through a gauntlet. Three of those games
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Speaker 3: you had a chance to win one. Obviously you weren't
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Speaker 3: in it. All these games that are left on the
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Speaker 3: schedule should afford you the opportunity to build a little
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Speaker 3: bit of I don't know see momentum, because you're not
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Speaker 3: going on into January very deep, but it will give
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Speaker 3: you something that you can hang your hat on.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you'd like to see some young players play and develop.
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Speaker 4: I know I'm gonna start getting questions in this couple
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Speaker 4: of weeks. Just play all the young guys. Well, that's
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Speaker 4: harder to do than that question implies. But I think
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Speaker 4: there have to be some situations where you try to
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Speaker 4: get Parker Washington more involved, You try to get Bigsby,
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Speaker 4: you know, Big Time Carey, you try to get guys.
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Speaker 4: It's a shame Cooper Hodges isn't playing right that level.
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Speaker 4: I think you've got to take advantage of these last
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Speaker 4: six weeks to do that because frankly, there's some veterans
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Speaker 4: who you already kind of know what it is. So
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Speaker 4: I don't know where that balance is, but you'd like
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Speaker 4: to try to find some of it.
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Speaker 2: Well'll give you an interesting one. How about Tray Prince.
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Speaker 3: Right, He's a guy who we saw through training camp
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Speaker 3: in the preseason make some plays and here and there,
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Speaker 3: I'd love to see him on the field, however, because
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Speaker 3: you know that Ronald Darby is a one year fix,
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Speaker 3: so you'd like to see what you've got with this guy.
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Speaker 3: But if it comes down to winning, these coaches are
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Speaker 3: going to keep Ronald Darby in instead of trade Prince.
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Speaker 2: Balance is the right word, John. You got to figure
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Speaker 2: out what that is, all right.
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6:41
Speaker 1: getting ready for Week thirteen. Bye week last week much
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Speaker 1: needed for everybody. I think at this point fans as well.
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Speaker 1: Took some time away. But football still happened on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit about what went on
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Speaker 1: in the division and what went on elsewhere in the
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Speaker 1: NFL last week. So Titans get the big upset over
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Speaker 1: the Texans yesterday. Hopefully that doesn't piss off the Texans
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Speaker 1: too much coming into town this week, but it can
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Speaker 1: be done. And what we've seen from the Texans and
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Speaker 1: I think that makes it more frustrating for all fans.
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Speaker 1: They don't have this division locked up by any means.
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Speaker 1: They're showing that this division was very winnable.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the division was winnable, and you have some regret
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Speaker 2: for that. I mean, c J.
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Speaker 3: Stroud has not played as consistently well as he did
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Speaker 3: as a rookie. Nico Collins has been injured, so has
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Speaker 3: Will Anderson. Their offensive line is good, it's not great.
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Speaker 3: You know, they have moments where Joe Mixon looks like
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Speaker 3: the old runner that he was in all those years
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Speaker 3: in Cincinnati. When they put it together. They're the class
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Speaker 3: of the division right now. But it was obvious watching
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Speaker 3: them the last couple of weeks that if the Jaguars
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Speaker 3: had the kind of season that we thought they could have,
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Speaker 3: they'd be right there in the middle of this thing.
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Speaker 2: They just didn't.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I got a lot of questions a grief from
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Speaker 4: fans this off season when people said, well, the Texans
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Speaker 4: are doing this, Texans are doing this, and I said, well, look,
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Speaker 4: let's not anoint the Texans. Yet I was right but
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Speaker 4: I didn't really realize the Jaguars were going to be
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Speaker 4: this right, right, So.
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Speaker 1: I was right, But who cares?
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Speaker 2: Right? So yeah, they're very vulnerable.
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Speaker 4: They don't look like a team that's going to compete
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Speaker 4: once the postseason rolls around. But the rest of the
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Speaker 4: division seems to be ebbing so quickly that it doesn't
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Speaker 4: matter for them, So good on them. They'll get a
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Speaker 4: division title at nine and eight.
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Speaker 1: Some drama elsewhere around the league, things going down in
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Speaker 1: New York getting blown out by the Bucks after they
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Speaker 1: cut Giants QB Daniel Jones earlier in the week, dealing
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Speaker 1: with that contract situation, still going out, not playing well
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Speaker 1: the league neighbors, chirping at some of his teammates. This
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Speaker 1: is just a little bit of it can always be worse,
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Speaker 1: So we can remind ourselves that things are not perfect
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Speaker 1: anywhere else either. John, When you look at kind of
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Speaker 1: things being handled poorly, I know you've seen a lot
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Speaker 1: throughout your years not going well in New York.
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Speaker 4: Right, Well, when it goes bad, it goes bad. And
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Speaker 4: I'm not close enough that situation. Didn't know why things
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Speaker 4: are handled one way or the other, but they're clearly
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Speaker 4: to reset this is what the league is now. You
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Speaker 4: go with your quarterback until you don't and then you
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Speaker 4: have it out the door and you reset.
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Speaker 2: So they're in that find it, find it, find it.
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Speaker 4: Until they find it, they'll probably be where they are.
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Speaker 3: So I mean, you have the same issue across the
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Speaker 3: parking lot, so to speak with the Jets, where it
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Speaker 3: appears to how Aaron Rodgers is incapable of playing at
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Speaker 3: a high level again and there was the thought of
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Speaker 3: the owner, Woody Johnson talking about benching him, and you
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Speaker 3: just in some situations you just have to be very
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Speaker 3: thankful for the fact that you've got a locker room
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Speaker 3: full of guys that are willing to kind of keep
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Speaker 3: it focused on the team as opposed to while I'm
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Speaker 3: not happy. And for Elie Neighbors, look, we'd heard he
9:46
Speaker 3: was mercurial when he was at LSU. He's an extreme talent,
9:50
Speaker 3: but for a rookie to come out and say that,
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Speaker 3: even at this juncture of the season, that one caught
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Speaker 3: me off guard.
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Speaker 1: Frustration certainly boiling over in New York for both football
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Speaker 1: teams elsewhere. I also want to point out we're playing
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Speaker 1: the Raiders later in the year, just before Christmas, Gardner
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Speaker 1: Minshew familiar around here. He's going to miss the rest
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Speaker 1: of the season. Broke his collarbone, and so that means
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Speaker 1: we will be facing off against Aidan O'Connell or quarterback
10:11
Speaker 1: to be named later at them.
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Speaker 3: And maybe Desmond Ritter who finished the game for them.
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Speaker 3: You know, every time I watched Gardner Minshew, I good
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Speaker 3: for him, right. I mean, he's on his fourth team
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Speaker 3: in his sixth season, and he looks like a guy
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Speaker 3: who can play ten or twelve years as a backup.
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Speaker 3: It was unfortunate that he had to take that blow.
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Speaker 3: He had the Raiders in there against the Broncos and
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Speaker 3: playing pretty well and then he took that shot, it.
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Speaker 2: Was all over for the Raiders.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Gardner is an amazing story. Like you said, he's
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Speaker 4: carving out a ten to twelve year career that will
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Speaker 4: have many highlight moments both ways. And a credit to
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Speaker 4: him because as everybody knows in this you know, in
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Speaker 4: this market, he was very close to being out of
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Speaker 4: football in college and through guts and hard work, has
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Speaker 4: made himself a career. I'm sorry to see him hurt.
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Speaker 4: He's a fun guy to watch.
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Speaker 3: Well, if you know his whole story, you're talking about
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Speaker 3: a guy that play at four different colleges in five years, right,
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Speaker 3: and now four different teams in six years. But he
11:11
Speaker 3: gets to be himself and do it his way. So
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Speaker 3: for him, congratulations. He's going to make millions of dollars
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Speaker 3: and be able to call his own shot the rest
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Speaker 3: of his life.
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Speaker 2: That's a win.
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Speaker 3: I mean when you talk to players, they want to
11:21
Speaker 3: get to that pension. They want to put enough money away. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: they won a Super Bowl, but Gardner's winning no matter what.
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Speaker 1: Not bad, not bad at all. Stay with us. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna give you our hot take predictions for the final
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. We are fresh off by week getting ready
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Speaker 1: to give you some hot takes, at least for what
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Speaker 1: we think are hot takes for the last final six
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Speaker 1: game of the season. Hot Takes presented by Firehouse subs Brian,
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Speaker 1: what does your hot take predictions final six games?
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Speaker 2: It's got an asterisk next to it.
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Speaker 3: The asterisk is if Trevor Lawrence comes back to play, right, okay,
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Speaker 3: And if Trevor Lawrence comes back to play, I think
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Speaker 3: the Jaguars will finish four and two, and I think
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Speaker 3: that they'll finish four and two in the division, which
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Speaker 3: means that they would go three and one against the Titans, Colts,
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Speaker 3: and Texans the rest of the way. Four and two
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Speaker 3: would be great over six games. It doesn't do much
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Speaker 3: on the season, they'd only finish six and eleven, but
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Speaker 3: I think the division.
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Speaker 2: Stinks, to be quite honest with Yaid, the.
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Speaker 3: Texans we talked about are only marginally better than everyone
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Speaker 3: else at this point. Anthony Richardson looks like a gladiator,
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Speaker 3: but it looks like a gladiator has no clue what
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Speaker 3: he's doing. All he wants to do is run. And
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Speaker 3: there was a couple of series where he was in
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Speaker 3: the pocket with a wide open receiver right in front
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Speaker 3: of him and either missed the guy or threw the
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Speaker 3: ball into the dirt. He's just not playing at an
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Speaker 3: NFL quarterback level. And you can stop the Colts if
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Speaker 3: you can stop Jonathan Taylor and the Titans look like
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Speaker 3: they'll be a handful, but they're always a handful for
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Speaker 3: this team though, So I think I think the DAGs
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Speaker 3: have a chance to go four and two, and I'd
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Speaker 3: like to see it over the final six weeks.
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Speaker 4: It's funny with this team, and I'm not trying to
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Speaker 4: be pattis say they could go four and two, they
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Speaker 4: could go six, and then they go and six. I mean,
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Speaker 4: it's anything. So my hot take is that I think
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Speaker 4: they'll win Sunday. And I'll joke with this because the
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Speaker 4: league is stupid and that's how things go in this league.
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Speaker 4: You saw it this weekend the Browns meat Steelers. There
13:29
Speaker 4: was another game that sort of fit into that as well,
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Speaker 4: where you're like, really and so all of that and
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Speaker 4: I think we'll talk about later in the week.
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Speaker 2: I think the Texans are very.
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Speaker 4: Vulnerable right now. After that, I have no idea because
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Speaker 4: this seems so hard to predict the way it plays.
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Speaker 4: It will be in for the last six games, yep.
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Speaker 4: And maybe they make a play at the end. Maybe
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Speaker 4: they don't. So far they haven't, but I have no idea.
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Speaker 4: So my hot take is probably because if you're astis.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, listen, how about the Cowboys going in and
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Speaker 3: taking on a red hot Commander's team and winning, I
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Speaker 3: mean in a stupid fashion, right with two kickoffs for
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Speaker 3: touchdowns and the big play to Terry McLaurin. I mean,
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Speaker 3: it's just it's tough to predict some things that happen
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Speaker 3: in this game these days.
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Speaker 1: So I think we're getting to that part of the
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Speaker 1: season too, where teams that are playing for something, you're
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Speaker 1: getting a little tight. There's a lot of pressure on
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Speaker 1: you versus the teams that know where they are at
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Speaker 1: unfortunately not involved in it at this point, so you
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Speaker 1: can play a little different style.
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Speaker 2: Since you bring that up, where's this team? I mean,
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Speaker 2: are they no?
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Speaker 1: No? No?
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Speaker 3: Can they go play loose and relax like that because
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Speaker 3: they have nothing to lose?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 1: I mean I think my hot take is also, if
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence plays the rest of this season, I think
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Speaker 1: from what we've seen two parts, Treyror Lawrence will prove
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Speaker 1: that he's the best QB in the AFC South. I
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Speaker 1: think we've seen in the last two weeks without him
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Speaker 1: makes you appreciate him a heck of a lot more,
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Speaker 1: maybe than you did before, and also looking at elsewhere
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Speaker 1: in the division, Will Levis, Anthony Richardson's they're not even
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Speaker 1: in the conversation with me anymore. And I think CJ.
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Speaker 1: Stroud in this sophomore slump that we're seeing him in
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Speaker 1: right now, he's not playing anything like what we saw
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Speaker 1: at the end of the back end of last season.
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Speaker 1: So until we see maybe a third campaign out of him,
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Speaker 1: I don't think you can really annoint him at this point,
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Speaker 1: just seeing how much he has been struggling recently. If
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Speaker 1: you've been watching, so Trevor Lawrence come back, comes back,
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Speaker 1: does something with this offense that we saw nothing from
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Speaker 1: last two weeks, literally zilch, that will prove his worth to.
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Speaker 2: Me first spot on.
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Speaker 4: I like that hot take, and I think it turns
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Speaker 4: this week if Trevor plays, it turns it into maybe
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Speaker 4: the last truly meaningful game of the season. If Trevor
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Speaker 4: could play, you beat this team he plays well, all
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Speaker 4: of a sudden, there's a little more in the fan
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Speaker 4: base of Hey, our guy is maybe better than this
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Speaker 4: other guy who we wondered about. So I have zero
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Speaker 4: idea if Trevor will play on Monday, I mean on Sunday,
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Speaker 4: but that would be a cool storyline to watch this week.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Stay well, let's we'll tell you what's coming up
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Speaker 1: All right, we'll back in the swing of things here
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Speaker 1: as Jaguars are gonna play this week against the Texans
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Speaker 1: divisional game. But we're not on normal schedule, a little
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Speaker 1: bit off because it's Thanksgiving this week. So we will
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Speaker 1: hear from Doug Peterson in a couple of minutes here
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Speaker 1: this morning on Monday. We think we'll know who the
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Speaker 1: quarterback will be at the end of that conversation.
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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm gonna tell you now that Doug
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Speaker 3: loves to play the quarterback game.
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Speaker 2: I don't think we'll have any clue.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, and not just he does like to
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Speaker 4: play a game, but I also think it'll be an
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Speaker 4: unknown because the shoulder that would be my guess.
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Speaker 1: All right, we should hear from some quarterback on Tuesday,
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Speaker 1: so we'll be back with you guys on Wednesday to
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Speaker 1: recap everything before you get you a preview for the
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Speaker 1: game on Sunday as well. See then