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NFL Week 9 Main Slate | November 2, 2025 | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems going clear the left.
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  Speaker 2: What's up everyone, Tyler Tamberline here aka TOTEG and Tambo
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  Speaker 2: back for another edition of the NFL Mainslade Show Here
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  Speaker 2: on the Ship at Nation YouTube Station, Week nine ahead.
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  Speaker 2: We're getting through the season quickly. Got hoopster and title
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  Speaker 2: here with me as always an hoop I'll bring it
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  Speaker 2: to you first. But I feel a little lost without
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  Speaker 2: my helmet right now.
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  Speaker 3: And you went all show with that. I Like I said,
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  Speaker 3: I was hoping as a spaghetti strap situation where uh
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  Speaker 3: you know, it was a couple couple of minutes and
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  Speaker 3: then we did the wardrobe show change, but you stuck
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  Speaker 3: to it all the way through. I have no clue
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  Speaker 3: how you did it. Hopefully got some extra candy out there,
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  Speaker 3: trick or treating for your commitment to the costume.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, the kids loved it, so it was a
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  Speaker 2: lot of fun. We had a good Halloween, good weekend
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  Speaker 2: at you. Other than a few different little things last night,
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  Speaker 2: the best World Series of all time title I'll kick
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  Speaker 2: it to you regardless. Obviously was cheering for the J's
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  Speaker 2: but you can never complain. Like everybody said, get that
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  Speaker 2: spot before the series starts. Having to go down the
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  Speaker 2: way that it did, every little thing. That was literally
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  Speaker 2: the best World Series ever and in a loss.
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  Speaker 1: I loved it.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think, oh man, oh I thought it
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  Speaker 4: was a mute for a second. It doesn't get any
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  Speaker 4: better than that. There were the two best teams. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it's just a game of centimeters, the game of inches.
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  Speaker 4: I mean each individual little plays, little plays that up.
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  Speaker 4: I know, I haven't seen anyone else really say it.
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  Speaker 4: I'll say it though. The secondary lead from third base
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  Speaker 4: when he got thrown out just the half inning inning
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  Speaker 4: after the announcers talked about it, Mookie on second base
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  Speaker 4: his secondary lead like it was night and day. If
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  Speaker 4: you go back and watch that, you know you're the
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  Speaker 4: winner or the I mean that that wins it all. Like,
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  Speaker 4: what are you doing? Like little little things? I don't
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  Speaker 4: whop coaches baseball, he sees it. There's so many hitting
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  Speaker 4: the cutoff guy, just Dave Roberts. Shout out to Dave
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  Speaker 4: Roberts throwing Andy po Has in center field for the
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  Speaker 4: arm because if it was a sack fly, you gotta
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  Speaker 4: throw it. The game's on the line. What a jump
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  Speaker 4: he had on the ball. I mean, just everything. Mcguil Rojas.
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  Speaker 4: That was the best game Vladdy dis misses that was
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  Speaker 4: That's what baseball is all about. Man, what a what
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  Speaker 4: an awesome series, what an awesome game. Dodgers deserved I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Blue Jay's deserved it. Dodgers deserved it. I'm not don't
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  Speaker 4: love seeing these big market teams win, but when the
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  Speaker 4: littlest guys on the biggest teams do it, and then yeah,
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  Speaker 4: shout out Yama Mota.
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  Speaker 5: That dude is he's different.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he is for sure.
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  Speaker 2: The pod like I loved your coming in the discord
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  Speaker 2: last night, said he most him and kept from that
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  Speaker 2: ball either. By the way, that's like nine times out
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  Speaker 2: of ten, that's just getting crushed. But yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you can't complain about too much. Everything was phenomenal. It's
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  Speaker 2: you know, THEMS. People have one hundred different excuses for
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  Speaker 2: different things. With the end of today, Dodgers got it done.
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  Speaker 1: Great.
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  Speaker 2: Team Jay's made it happen. They got their fan base
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  Speaker 2: all the way to the very last game, two extra innings. Hoop,
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  Speaker 2: I'll kick at you. I know it's an NFL show,
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  Speaker 2: but I think a lot of people were watching the
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  Speaker 2: World Series. It's the freaking Dodgers versus all of Canada.
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  Speaker 2: Basically last night is what happened. Did you have any
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  Speaker 2: other thoughts on it before we hop into this main sleet.
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  Speaker 3: I think I'll say I think most people in the
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  Speaker 3: in the US were probably probably rooting for your your
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  Speaker 3: Blue Jays, like people hate the big market stuff. I
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  Speaker 3: was definitely rooting for the Blue Jays, my son rooting
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  Speaker 3: for the Blue Jay. Whole our whole house was rooting
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  Speaker 3: for the Blue Jays. Like I just hate the aspect
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  Speaker 3: of baseball, like the big market teams where they could
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  Speaker 3: just get every single player just it really really pisses
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  Speaker 3: me off. It's super annoying and it's like it puts
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  Speaker 3: teams at a huge disadvantage. Now at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the day, you got to go out there and just win,
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  Speaker 3: you know, no excuses, you know, work harder, all that
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  Speaker 3: sort of thing. But man, it was a great baseball game,
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  Speaker 3: great series, Like you got every aspect of it, like
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  Speaker 3: bases loaded, bringing the infield in, guy making you know
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  Speaker 3: at that catch in left field, I mean really it
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  Speaker 3: was left field. I mean he came all the way
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  Speaker 3: over from center because who was a key yeer in
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  Speaker 3: Andez I believe it was that who was in left.
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  Speaker 3: He was not catching that ball. There's zero zero percent chance,
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  Speaker 3: and he just big bodied him and said, get out
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  Speaker 3: of the way. I got this ship and that was
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  Speaker 3: that was an incredible, incredible catch. Yeah, and all the
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  Speaker 3: small stuff came into play, like not getting the good
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  Speaker 3: secondary Like I don't know how he doesn't that that
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  Speaker 3: play was too close at home, like he should have
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  Speaker 3: gotten there. I thought, like the guy he got the
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  Speaker 3: ball kind of kind of stumbled when he got up,
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  Speaker 3: like you gotta you gotta get to home on that play.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's that's clear as day, Like that's what
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  Speaker 3: we work on with our kids on third base. The
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  Speaker 3: balls hit the second like you know you're going. It's
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  Speaker 3: not like it's a line drive and base through lodus.
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  Speaker 3: You got no choice. You gotta go, and uh didn't
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  Speaker 3: get there. But it was a great baseball game, great series. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, unfortunate result. I wanted to believe just to
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  Speaker 3: get the job done.
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  Speaker 1: It happens.
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  Speaker 2: I think you guys broke it down solid. It was
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  Speaker 2: a really good one. We were definitely here to talk football.
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  Speaker 2: So everybody that's just joining us, we appreciate you. And
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  Speaker 2: let everybody file in. If you can do us a
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  Speaker 2: favor on the way and make sure to hit that
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  Speaker 2: thumbs up. We're going to do our natural grand scheme
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  Speaker 2: overview title, and I'm gonna start with you. We have
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  Speaker 2: eleven games. Not know about you, but when you're building
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  Speaker 2: these lineups, I mean we'll get to the KSE Buffalo game.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, it's a huge total afternoon game. There's some
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  Speaker 2: other games in the afternoon as well in pieces there,
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  Speaker 2: but it almost feels like people are building early only lineups.
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  Speaker 2: Right when you're putting your lineups together, it's like, wait
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  Speaker 2: a minute, do I even have it? And remember you
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  Speaker 2: don't need anything in the afternoon until you do right,
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  Speaker 2: you can get the most points and then anti sweat
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  Speaker 2: and just fend everybody off. So if you love your lineup,
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  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people ask this, like, oh
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  Speaker 2: do I have to get someone? I feel like I'm
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  Speaker 2: dead if I don't have the person or the player
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  Speaker 2: that creeps up the board. You need the most points,
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  Speaker 2: that's what you need, So wherever those come from, get
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  Speaker 2: after it.
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  Speaker 1: Title. I'll kick it to you. Your Grand scheme over
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  Speaker 1: here with eleven games on a week nine Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, at first, I just wanted to shout out our
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  Speaker 4: man hoop for the big MMA win yesterday. Yes, some
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  Speaker 4: of us were definitely watching some fixed UFC fights Tyler,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 5: Some fishy was going on. That's all.
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  Speaker 4: I gotta say the line, don't do that in that
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  Speaker 4: short amount of time that hard.
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  Speaker 5: They closed everything.
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  Speaker 4: So we will be definitely I'll be watching that for
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  Speaker 4: the week's coming months coming.
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  Speaker 5: To see how that all plays out.
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  Speaker 4: As far as this, I'm this late, I mean, it's
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  Speaker 4: all roster construction wise is just so similar. We have
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  Speaker 4: all these cheap running backs that are in starting spots
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  Speaker 4: that project well, and then you can spend up for
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  Speaker 4: the pukahs, the chases like quarterbacks if you want, you
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  Speaker 4: can really do anything you want on this late if
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  Speaker 4: you are playing the handful of cheap running backs like
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  Speaker 4: everyone is Manungai Tracy Henderson, I mean, and if you
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  Speaker 4: want to spend up, you have JT what priced way
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  Speaker 4: up and then I think McCaffrey's the clear one. People
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  Speaker 4: will go to the savings in a lot better matchups.
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  Speaker 4: So it's just so concentrated in roster construction sense. But
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  Speaker 4: it's really easy when you do.
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  Speaker 5: Stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: There's so many ways to get different. You can flip bills,
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  Speaker 4: not play as many cheap running backs. You can play
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  Speaker 4: a receiver or tight end in the flex position that
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  Speaker 4: I think will be pretty low owned. The nice thing
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  Speaker 4: though about NFL, well, we have eleven games versus ten
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  Speaker 4: last week, which is good. But quarterback is always spread out,
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  Speaker 4: and at the end of the day, like you're stacking
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  Speaker 4: your quarterbacks, your receivers, your runbacks, you're overstacked. Whatever you
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  Speaker 4: gotta do that will all be pretty ownership will be
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  Speaker 4: pretty in check. So you can eatch off. You can
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  Speaker 4: play my nong guy if he's the best player, you
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  Speaker 4: can play choff pieces around it, and you can get
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  Speaker 4: different pretty easily after that. I do agree, though, I
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  Speaker 4: don't think many go into these afternoon games, even though
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  Speaker 4: we got I mean, case Buffalo, that's gonna be one
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  Speaker 4: hell of a game for sure, But for DFS perspective,
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  Speaker 4: Ram's a huge favorite against Saints. Not the most appealing
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  Speaker 4: game outside of really Pooka Kyron maybe Buffalo case for sure,
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  Speaker 4: but Buffalo is always tough with the receivers and stuff,
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  Speaker 4: and they're priced up. And then Jacksonville, Vegas. I do
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  Speaker 4: think it's a little bit of ownership. But there's no
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  Speaker 4: doubt the values in these early games.
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  Speaker 2: Good news is I'm gonna like Hoop run with his
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  Speaker 2: grand scheme overview. But Roshan's also that's what the manung
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  Speaker 2: guy talk is early on the slate.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not just Swift, it's you know, no Roachhawn either.
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  Speaker 2: So if you think it's Travis Homer, then go ahead,
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  Speaker 2: but that's just I mean, he's six hundred dollars less
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  Speaker 2: versus the guy that's starting and has everything going for him.
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  Speaker 1: Hoop, I'll kick it to you.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe that's part of your grand scheme over you. But
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  Speaker 2: as title said, as the chat said, congrats to you.
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  Speaker 2: Love the post out there winner back in the Winter
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  Speaker 2: Circle and in the MMA Street shut out the title
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  Speaker 2: in Marley always getting it done and Hoop always pumps
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  Speaker 2: that up, is like, hey, it's just I'm just putting
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  Speaker 2: the stuff together. These guys got it covered. So congrats
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  Speaker 2: to you man.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they do it the best in the industry.
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  Speaker 3: I set it from day one, like no one else
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  Speaker 3: is doing that sort of breakdown on a weekly basis,
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  Speaker 3: not just for pay per view cards. I mean they're
• 8:30
  Speaker 3: every single week for usc which is like forty some
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  Speaker 3: weeks throughout the year, I believe, and I do a
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  Speaker 3: phenomenal job breaking it down and kind of getting myself
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  Speaker 3: and our members on the right path. And I've had
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't like track like winning per
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  Speaker 3: sport or anything, but when you look at like amount
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  Speaker 3: invested versus return, I probably say MMA has been my
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  Speaker 3: best sport over the last like two years. I've had
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  Speaker 3: some mess wins and had a nice stretch last year
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  Speaker 3: where I think it won like three or four weeks
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  Speaker 3: in a row, like the the main high dollar one
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  Speaker 3: to yesterday was the uh, you know, twenty dollars, and
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  Speaker 3: then every single other contest it was the team was
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  Speaker 3: the nuts and you know it's all based off of
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  Speaker 3: our content. So shout out to those guys, and I
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  Speaker 3: will say, man, there is nothing better. I've swept millions
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  Speaker 3: of dollars multiple times. Obviously got all the way through
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  Speaker 3: one time winning the Millie, but I've had other sweats
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  Speaker 3: for a MILLI you FC, sweats are the best when
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  Speaker 3: you know, like that you just need this guy to
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  Speaker 3: beat that guy and they're locked in a cage and
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  Speaker 3: they're trying to essentially kill each other like that is
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  Speaker 3: the best sweat in sports, like you know, bar not,
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  Speaker 3: It's absolutely phenomenal. So it was fun. I knew I
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  Speaker 3: needed Garcia to want and when, and he absolutely beat
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  Speaker 3: his ass. It was like never ever in question at
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  Speaker 3: any point in that fight.
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  Speaker 4: So that was you're very good on those last wonder
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  Speaker 4: boy as an underdog when you need one guy late,
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  Speaker 4: your guys have you guys have full through more times
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  Speaker 4: than not.
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  Speaker 3: That's worked out well because I have a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people hedge and I don't hedge. I just said, just
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  Speaker 3: let a roll and I know you people, you can't
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  Speaker 3: hedge in those spots very I needed this guy to
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  Speaker 3: beat that guy could have bet the underdog, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: I just firmly believe like if you're doing this all
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  Speaker 3: the time, it's gonna balance out. So no need to
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  Speaker 3: have just kind of my mindset. But you can do
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  Speaker 3: it however you want. In regards to the NFL slate,
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  Speaker 3: it's a really good slate. I will say that the
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  Speaker 3: one thing that definitely stands out so many teams in
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  Speaker 3: really good spots, massive team totals up and down the board,
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  Speaker 3: So that to me immediately says things are going to
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  Speaker 3: get spread out at quarterback, and that it's always the case.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's even more so today. You can make
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  Speaker 3: a case for a lot of different quarterbacks, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of different stacks. The one spot we're going to see
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  Speaker 3: some consolidated ownership is definitely running back because they're just
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  Speaker 3: the best standout values on the slate. We'll get to
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  Speaker 3: each of them. But then, like when I look at
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  Speaker 3: running back, it's like Jonathan Taylor under ten percent, jon
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  Speaker 3: Robinson under ten percent, Like you have plays, like you
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  Speaker 3: have some really really good plays at that position outside
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  Speaker 3: of the very popular stuff. And then wide receivers a
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  Speaker 3: big question mark. Wide receiver has been a big question
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  Speaker 3: mark for weeks. You got the guys at the top,
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  Speaker 3: but there's a lot of uncomfortable stuff at wide receiver.
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  Speaker 3: And then tight end is loaded. I mean it's got
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  Speaker 3: to be the most loaded tight end position I think
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  Speaker 3: of the season, Like so many really really good plays.
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  Speaker 3: But definitely the main thing for me is some really
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  Speaker 3: appealing spots that are just going to have to go
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  Speaker 3: low owned. And we'll talk about it. And one is,
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  Speaker 3: you know the hat I have on right here. The
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  Speaker 3: Lions are in a phenomenal spot and no one's going
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  Speaker 3: to be playing them today, and there's many more as
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  Speaker 3: we go along. So I'm looking forward to talking through
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  Speaker 3: this one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, i gotta say Shubernation, Home of the Ladies. Shout
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  Speaker 2: out to Drea out there, our girl Nika. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: our girl Kim is out there somewhere. We always got
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: at least two to three, so doing better than most
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: of the other the other shows and sights. Appreciate all
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  Speaker 2: the ladies coming out to play the dfs. You know
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people talk.
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  Speaker 1: Bad or oh my wife hates it, do just that
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  Speaker 1: and the other. I love seeing everybody in the streets.
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  Speaker 1: That's what's awesome about this game.
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  Speaker 2: One note, I wanted to bring up my quick grand
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  Speaker 2: schemoview is not gonna be long. We're gonna get right
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  Speaker 2: to this first game title. I'm gonna start with you
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  Speaker 2: on the Mnung Guy conversation in that game. But I
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  Speaker 2: want everyone to go in the chat right now. You
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  Speaker 2: can hit the thumbs up while you're there. Give us
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  Speaker 2: your Kansas City versus Buffalo final score in the chat
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  Speaker 2: and who wins. So if you got k Sever, you know,
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  Speaker 2: beating Buffalo, put that in the score and let us know.
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  Speaker 2: I want to know what you think of this afternoon
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  Speaker 2: game with those guys, and we'll pull them up here
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  Speaker 2: in a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you title.
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  Speaker 5: I'll kick it to you.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to the first game Bears at the Bengals
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  Speaker 2: double b's and we got Caleb Williams and Joe Flaco,
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  Speaker 2: but Bill Health seems to be okay, he's gonna go
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  Speaker 2: Jamar Chase mnung guy.
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  Speaker 1: We got a bunch of stuff going on with this
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  Speaker 1: one to kick things off.
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  Speaker 4: Start us here, Yeah, I mean you have one of
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  Speaker 4: the most popular yet one of the best mini sacks
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  Speaker 4: skinny sacks on the slate right away and Manunguy Jamar.
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  Speaker 4: I'll start with mcnong guy because he is gonna be
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  Speaker 4: the most popular play on the slate. Yeah, it's not
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  Speaker 4: only Swift, there's no Roashan Johnson. Ben Johnson has liked
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  Speaker 4: Manunguy too. He's been a lot more willing to use
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  Speaker 4: his rookie running back this year than even with the
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  Speaker 4: healthy Swift and a lot of other coaches so far
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  Speaker 4: in the NFL. The props all check out for the
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  Speaker 4: price minus one fifty to score seventy six and a
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  Speaker 4: half on the ground fifteen and a half through the
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  Speaker 4: air applied for twenty five points or twenty seven. Excuse me,
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  Speaker 4: Bengals aren't good like it all checks out, And that's
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  Speaker 4: back to the point. There's it's how you your lineup
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  Speaker 4: is constructed. If you're playing all the chalk at the
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  Speaker 4: end of the day, maybe you should get different. I'm
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  Speaker 4: a young guy. If you're playing Jared Goff to Jamison
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  Speaker 4: Williams or so many different stacks or roster constructions, I'm
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  Speaker 4: anong guy. Is gonna be my highest own player. I
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  Speaker 4: just think he's by far the best. He projects the
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  Speaker 4: bells best. He has a lot of outs to get there,
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  Speaker 4: and I can get different in other spots. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm definitely gonna be playing it in lineups. I'm not
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  Speaker 4: playing it. I think Caleb Williams is very interesting. If
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  Speaker 4: he doesn't get there, Caleb can use his legs, he
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  Speaker 4: can throw it a Doonesday's the kias. There is no
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  Speaker 4: Luther Burden, there is no Cole Camet, so it is
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  Speaker 4: a little more concentrated.
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  Speaker 5: Zakia is very cheap.
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: If I'm playing Caleb, you can and go Caleb's a Kias,
• 14:01
  Speaker 4: just because it's so cheap. Zakias full point PPR and
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: CAB's rushing, but I probably prefer getting Odoon's Day just
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: because when Caleb fully gets there, we've seen it earlier
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: in the year and he just can't really be owned
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: at sixty six hundred. So and you can also play
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: Mononguy with Caleb Williams and just lock up all the
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: points for cheap. So a lot of different ways to
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: play it. I'm definitely playing a bunch of manong Guy
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: bingals side. Yeah, I'm Flaco to Jamar Chase the skinny
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: stack like. I'm fine with that. When you're getting twenty targets,
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: twenty three targets like it, Flacco can just bring one
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: guy along and it can be Chase, absolutely breaking the slate.
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: You can play Chase in any lineup you want again,
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: nineteen twenty three targets is just out of this world then,
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: Tee Higgins, I don't mind when I am playing Flacco
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: stuff if you throw him in doubles. Do I love it? No,
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: not really. It's mainly the Manonguy Chase and then the
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: Caleb stack that way, But I don't hate Flacco skinnies.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: I wonder if anyone's gonna go manun Guy and just
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: fade him completely out there. I think it's gonna be
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: more locked by and fades, but hoop, yeah, I'll kick
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: it over to you. Obviously, this is a bit of
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: a conversation I've seen around and in the discord is like, oh,
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: but we just saw Jean Robinson chalk Bust last week.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: But quite a difference when you've got a you know,
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: everything going for you in this spot. But just the
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: price difference eighty eight hundred versus forty six hundred.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: Is playing, by the way, my bad, not that it
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: means much for the them, but burdens out concussion comet's playing.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: I said the same yesterday.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: I was I was in falling closely enough either, and
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: I was like, I kind of, I don't know. I
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: think we just want this loveling thing to work. But yeah,
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: it's like just another interference piece there with cometic Go ahead, hoop,
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: I'll kick at you on this game.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: Is that a heart drawn on your coffee cut? Is
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: that part of the cut?
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look at that.
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: My body picked my body picked it up.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll ask Starbucks. Barista must must have a little
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: thing for him there, And so it's good to know
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: not too much more to add Manung Gui. Great play
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: is going to be massively owned. You know, is it
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: an absolute slammedun play? Like, no, you could he could
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: go out and get six seven eight. It's definitely in
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: the realm of possibilities. But it's much different, like you said,
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: than an eighty eight hundred running back going out and
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: busting like you can still do something, your lineup can
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: still do something. If he doesn't go off, it's just
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: too cheap. He's gonna get all the work. It's a
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: really good spot. They're projected to score four touchdowns, like
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: the projector to score twenty seven, twenty eight points. Like
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: he's just a really good play, I mean, just really good.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: I'm sure he'll catch the ball like he can do.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: He's gonna do everything out there, So really good play,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Caleb Adunza, Zakias. You know, DJ Moore should be kind
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: of overlooked here and he hasn't had the greatest season,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: but he would be pretty low owned. And then on
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: the Bengal side, it's really just like Flacco to Jamar Chase.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, the targets are absolutely insane for Jamar Chase
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: twenty three and nineteen, like twenty three and nineteen target.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Dude's got forty two targets in two weeks. With Joe
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Flacco's quarterback, that's absolutely unheard of. You know, there were
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: some injury concerns for Flacco, but it sounds like he's
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: good to go. And you know, if Flacco does happen
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: to go out or get hurt, I mean, the outlook
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: for Chase is not going to be as good. But
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: I mean you just don't see that in the NFL,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: like averaging twenty targets over the last two games, so
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: he's fine. You can throw Higgins in there as well,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: but I mean it's clearly just you know, we're going
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: to pepper jamar Chase and it's been working out fine
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: for him lately. So good game, I mean, very very
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: good game. Good pieces. If you're looking for something low owned,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: like you know, a Dunesday's ownership is going to stay
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: in check and even DJ Moore is going to stay
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: in check. So you know, kleb to those guys. But
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: it's a it's a good game, and there's a lot
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: of really good games. I mean that's the thing you
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: got to make some decisions to depending on I mean,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: this is this would be a tough slight if you're
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: only making like three lineups, right, if you're like a
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: three lineup person, like it's it's gonna be tough to
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: because youve got to make some very tough decisions because
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: just about every single game we talk about, one of
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: the sides is going to look really really good and
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: one of the sides basically has like a twenty eight
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: team total, which is big, so good slate for mm me,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: I think today.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just starting on this one. Lots of things
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: to unpack here.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I do like Kevin's comment they always trying to get
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: married men in trouble and then our guy Rob with
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: the good one there. It is Jordan Love's birthday today,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: and title knows all about Jordan Love and those Packers.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: So maybe that's a spot we'll talk about here in
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: a couple of games coming up. Also, I say to Aaron,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I believe didn't Browning throw Chase two touchdowns the game
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: that he or at least the second game that he
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: played with him. So I think it's a bigger conversation
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: around if Flacco does get injured, it doesn't mean Chase
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: is done.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Like there's no It's not like he's dead. I mean, yeah,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: it's not going to be you know, it might not
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: be as good. He's still totally fine, and he is
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: chasing that record.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I forgot this is a complete narrative street but you
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: never know Calvin Johnson's four consecutive ten reception games, it's
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: it's definitely a spot for him to get it.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: If anything. The biggest thing for.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Me, though, is, you know, it's not who you play,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: it's how you play them, as I always say, but
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: this game is all about that. When do the Bears,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Like I've said this a million times, you look at
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: the Lions some weeks and I'm like, okay, if they
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: got a thirty one and a half point team total,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: those just don't exist very often.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: So you better figure it out.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: And we're going to talk about that when we get
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: to the Indie game. We're going to talk about that
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: when we get to the Kansas City Buffalo game. When
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: do the Bears ever have a team total of twenty
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: seven points? So if you're not playing man, young guy,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: which I know most of you are, you still better
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: be trying to think about what you're doing in this
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: game unless you just assume it busts like somebody mentioned
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: it Bengals d at like no ownership. Sure if you
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: want a way to sort of leverage the opposite side,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: but really that seems very telling to me.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Also, this game total opened at forty eight and a half.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I feel like title here, but this one's noticeable to
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: me up to fifty one and a half now as
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: we get to game time. So all this stuff that
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: you can get to, they are missing, you know, like
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: you said, missing a piece from the Luther burden on
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: the Bear side, No Swift, no Johnson. You can play
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams with Macnung Guy. You could play on quads
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: that you can play Williams Manung Guy, pick one and
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Oz if you want, and then run it back with
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Jamar Chase as a way to get different with that.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: So I think you can kind of do whatever you
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: want in this game. But I definitely think I'm just
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: making the case that obviously a lot of doing Manung
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Guy and moving on, it could be other pieces in
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: this game that you need to work with. And with
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: a twenty seven point team total for the Bears implied,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I think that's something to think about certainly here And I.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Mentioned already on the Placo side.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I think the other thing is like last week t
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Higgins one off, he started strong, he had the forty
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: four yard touchdown right away, and then it just shuts down.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I was all excited, like that was a nice piece
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: for Flacco.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Well, the chase is still gonna get his, and then
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: we got Higgins in some one off spots. I think
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: you could have like anung guy Higgins. I do think
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: outside of the earlier grand scheme overview, I gave one
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: interesting note on today would be balanced builds right where
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: you're getting to some of these mid range guys and
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: hoping that the twenty five to thirty pointers come from them,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: and it really starts with the running backs. And it's
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: probably a good segue, Hoops. So I'll move to you
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: for Game two because it involves your Lions at home,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: and it involves a running back. And there's other plays
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: here as well. Bobblehead Day by the way, for a
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Monroe Saint Brown for those that follow. But the Jamier
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Gibbs play a K. It's not like he's getting no ownership.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: But when you have JT and CMC and and young
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: guy and there's all these other value guys, it's you know,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: everyone has to be at least somewhat kept in check
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: in certain areas. So what do you think your Lions
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: today at home? And how do you see this one
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: playing out?
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean another team projected to score four touchdowns
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: on the slate and another team with that big total
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: that's getting ownership relatively low. I mean, in check, nothing's
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: crazy here in terms of guys. They're going to be super,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: super popular. And I think it's a phenomenal spot at home.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, this offense can nuke and they'll keep the
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: foot on the gas pedal. That's a nice thing about
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: the Lions. I mean they're one of very few teams
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: in the NFL. A lot of these teams in the
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: NFL they get the two touchdowns and they get the
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: two touchdown leads and like all right, yeah, let's start,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: you know, jamming it with David Montgomery or something like that.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: The Lions will continue to go and they're going to
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: be alone. Golf is going to come in at probably
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: five percent or below. Gibbs will definitely be held in check.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: With all the value running backs. I think he's a
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: phenomenal play and it's different from last year. I mean,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: they started the games with David Montgomery in there, so
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: you know, Gibbs really wasn't getting in in some cases
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: to the end of the first quarter. Now he's out
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: there and he's the man. I mean, he's phenomenal. Play
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: can get there in so many different ways, and ownership
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: held in check. If people are spending at wide receiver,
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: it's probably Jamar Chase or Puka. It's not going to
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: be a Mon Ross Saint Brown. And he has just
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: as much upside as those guys. I mean, obviously, if
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: they're going to throw the ball to Jamar Chase twenty
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: five times, it might not be as much upside, but
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: he can score two three touchdowns. We've seen it. The
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Jamis and Williams thing, you just got to you gotta play.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, like if you're playing lion stuff,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: you have to include Jamison Williams. If you're building multiple lineups.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, the ongoing joke is he's an eighty million
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: dollar decoy. He hasn't done shit this year, and there's
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: been a ton of talk from offensive coordinator, head coach
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: everybody that like they've they've done this guy a disservice
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: and they have to get him the ball, it's gonna
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: have a big game, Like this offense is too good.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: He's too good. He's gonna have a good game at
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: some point. Is it today? Hopefully, because I'm gonna be
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: playing them, so I think he Especially if you're getting
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: overweight on the lines, make sure to conclude Jamison Williams,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, just too much upside there. And then Laporte
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: is another tight end forty three hundred, very very cheap
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: lines are a phenomenal spot. And then if you want
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: run backs like no one's gonna be owned on the
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Minnesota side, you got justin Jefferson there. I think Jordan
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Addison is fine, and it really is. It is probably
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: just those two. I don't like the split with Jones
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: and Mason. The one thing at running back today you need,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, with with these game totals and team totals
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: and running backs that are too cheap, you need a
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: big boy scorer. So like I don't you don't know
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: questions about backup running backs today, like we definitely not
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: in play. You need your running back to score a
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: lot of Fantasy points today, So you know, no thanks
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: on Mason or Aaron Jones. The run backs are Jefferson
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: and Addison, and they're both very low owned options. So yeah,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I think the Lions are in a really really good
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: spot today and should be low owned. And so many
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: different ways to stack them, Like I mean, you can
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: play golf with Gibbs if you want. You can play
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: golf with two pass catchers. You can play golf with
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: the tight end. So just a variety of ways to
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: stack them. Really good spot here for the.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Lions, your boy, don't forget it's the Battle of New
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: verus Ny.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Back and forth was as exciting as as last year.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Last year was fun going back and forth. Your team
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: actually performed quite well this year, like you know, not
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: going so well and when they lose by like three touchdowns.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: So I just keeck. All I asked, Danny, is that
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: you keep coming back here even though when your vikings
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: like really disappoint you and you realize they're a very
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: shitty team. I just want you to come back every
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: day and we can we can talk about something else.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be the Vikings line. It could
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: be anything else you want. But we love your support here.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: I just asked you to keep coming back when you
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: finally realize your vikings fucking suck.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: You know what Hamwich tried to talk me into the
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: He wants to do JJ JJ JA for the for
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: the Viking side with JJ McCarthy, Jamison, Justin Jefferson and
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Jordan Addison and then jay A Misson Williams on the
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: other side and get all them in there and run
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: a three to one that way. I prefer the golf side.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: And I think this is a good question to skip
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: it over to you here title. But you know Ken
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Minnesota push today or does it matter? Because the thing
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: is the Lions not afraid to run things up. If
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: you don't think it's gonna be them doing something, it
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: might just be the Lions smashing forty one nothing. You know,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: who knows how these guys pull these things off. What
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: do you think of the spot?
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: This is probably the spot I'm most concerned with, but
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: I am not getting much and I think a lot
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: of it just comes down to one of Hoop's last points,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: which I guess you can take both ways. There's so
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: many ways to stack them there is. There's just too
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: many ways to stack them. For me, I'm gonna play
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: Jamo and Amura with golf and now Montgomery Gibs the
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Laporte is gonna have it, I'm gonna play the other
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: ones and there I just it's really hard for me
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: to get it exactly right. I think the Lions situation
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: in general is just super hard to get it exactly right,
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: which you need on eleven game slate. I think it's
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: a lot easier on like a four game slate or
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: something like that if you just miss the one guy
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: you play Jamo and it's a Laporte today, like you're
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: just drawing debt for the top. So I think there's
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: other spots that are more condensed. I don't feel good
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: about it. I mean the Lion fading. Not playing the
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Lions is scary. It's just when they have six different
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: guys and they're all priced pretty efficiently at the end
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: of the day too, which is something to note.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: Other side of the ball.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Like I love Addison, I love Jefferson, but I don't
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: know about McCarthy, like I truly don't. They're implied for
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: twenty points when other teams are applied for like twenty seven.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: So I'm scared about it. But I will not have
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: much of this game.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a I don't know, maybe it's
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: just the product of the slate. Like I'm way more
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: worried about when you get to like packers and and
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: bills and of course the chiefs and all that stuff
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: where they literally just spread it.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Around like crazy.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Here, I can play golf with Gibbs, but realistically it's
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of golf with two of Amanra
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Jamison Williams and Sam Laporta. Run it back with JJ
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: or j or Addison and call it a day. I
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: feel pretty good about the spot. I think there is
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: a chance that you could just see the Onslaught come
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: through and you have cheap options to be able to
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: make it work, but then you'd sort of land the
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: same as others that go that route. But I think
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: you could see a route of the Lions just absolutely
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: smashing these guys.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Here.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: It's again people are talking about the JJ McCarthy homecoming
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: and all these different factors. It's like, you got to
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: you still gotta be good. That's that's the thing you
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: gotta I'm sure you know everyone's gonna complain about that
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: statement too, but it's it's got to be shown and
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: that's until it does. And then when it does, that's great.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: So all the big JJ McCarthy vans. Maybe he'll be
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: good soon. It has not been the case right now,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: So I think there's a chance here. We could just
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: see the Lions running up on these guys. And I
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: think I definitely want to have a part of it.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: It's just whether or not. And and the Jameis and
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Williams thing too, hoop, like that's on them, right, they've
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: taken the blame for that, And I don't believe, you know,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: the coachpeak is always hard to track and people try
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: and follow it, and this set and the other, and
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: they've set a ton of stuff this week. But they
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: paid the money. Like everyone's like making fun of him
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: for running CARDI, who's like, my checks cashed. I'm good,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Like they don't want to get me the ball, don't
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: get me.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I'm good.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I'll stay healthy. But he wants the ball. He wants
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: to compete, and they say they want to get it
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: to him. So I think if you're building those stacks
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: this week, you've got to be thinking about him within
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: those anything else to add their hoop? If not, you
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: could take us to the next one, which is the
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Packers at home versus the Panthers.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing else bad. I guess the one thing I
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: will slay with the Lions like that. To me, it's
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: like it's easy to get the main pieces. I think
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: the issue is like the trick plays and the randomness
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: of you know, standing someone put in the comments about
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Dan Skipper catching touchdowns, like right now, it's like it's
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: definitely Gibbs way over Montgomery, so you don't really have
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: to worry about Montgomery. It's not like you have a
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: wide receiver three here. They're not using the wide receiver
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: three at all, so it's really a Manra and Jamison
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: and then Laporte is chiefs. I think if you are
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: building multiple teams, it is easy to get this in
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: a variety ways, but you do have to allocate some resources,
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: which I think Title is kind of touching on, to
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: make sure you get every combination of it, because it's
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: not going to be fun if you the Lions score
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: like thirty five points and you know you don't have
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: the guy that scored the two touches.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: I'm more worried about Montgomery too. He's minus one thirty,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: Like that's the dude. I just fricking hate if they
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: go all the way down and Montgomery punches it in.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: You just could have wasted nine minutes of the clock.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: And but it's it's the most scary fade for me
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: for sure, because like they're going to move the football,
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: they're applied for a bunch of points.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: It's just you when you.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: Stack it up, you better hope you get those right guys,
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: because one lapoor today and not a j mo O day.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: You're just you're you're dead for first yeah man maybe
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: and then you played Gibbs and you know what I mean.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: It's just but it's a really scary fadure. I argue
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: I think the Chiefs are easier to figure out now
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: than the Lions for the sense of its rice. It's worthy.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: It's else because they can't run the ball. But we'll
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: get there.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, this is definitely a spot where I don't know.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: It's like I don't know how you I don't know
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: how to go about playing the Packers. I mean, they're
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: favored by two touchdowns here at home, projected to score
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: twenty eight. They now have Christian Watson back in the
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: mix as well, a team that already spreads it out.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: They're likely to score here, But like, how does it happen?
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: You know, Josh Jacobs is pretty damn expensive, and it's like,
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: all right, do you want Josh Jacobs or do you
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: want to take a shot on Jonathan Taylor or Bijon Robinson.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: He's really expensive on FanDuel. He's right up there with
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: those guys on FanDuel. So I really struggle with this game,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: like Tucker Craft, I think is you know, I view
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: him as kind of their wide receiver one. So if
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: I am playing this, it's going to be tucker Craft.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: I struggle. I probably won't have much of this game
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: and it will be low owned. That is the nice
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: part if you do want to play it, Like nothing
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: here is going to be popular, but maybe you guys
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: can talk me into something here because I'm just not
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: seeing it. And apparently the Panthers have now finally realized
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: that it should have been Rico. I'm sticking with it, Doubtle.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Should have been No No Dotal Sorry yeah no no.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: I said it the right way. I want to go
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: back to say it the wrong way, Rico Dodal. They
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: finally realized that he's the guy that they should have
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: been using the past couple of weeks with Chubble Hubbard
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: back so who the hell knows what's happening with that situation.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: But this is a This is a tough one for
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: me outside of craft. So if you guys have something,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: maybe you can talk me into it.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: No, and title probably knows the Packers better than most,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: but I'll say I do agree with one statement earlier,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: but it would be against this spot. I think Mahomes
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: finally might be easier to figure out than the Packers.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: This is just nuts.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: I have no clue. How like someone said it, I
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: honestly would not be surprised. You're your conversation about Montgomery
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: very clean, makes a ton of sense. I feel like
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: even you could see Emmanuel Wilson here into the mix,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: and you have Dobbs Golden Watson craft like, you got
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: so many options here that they could go to.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: It's really tricky. I guess Love would at least make sense.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Is going if you went Love naked?
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe, because then it's you know, if you think they're
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: putting up their twenty nine points or whatever it is
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: at home, and it's not going to be Jacob, so
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: you don't have Jacobs in there and whatever else. Maybe
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: that's the way to do it. But even that gets
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: tricky with so many other quarterbacks on this leg. Give
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: us your thoughts, your Packers at home, brust the Panthers,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: big boy favorites.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: Copy and paste what I said about the Lions. I mean,
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: you're all right, they put up thirty five, you played Romeo,
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: Dobbs and Golden and it's a Jacob's day. You played Jacob.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: It's just there's too many guys rotating in. It's even
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: more murky with Watson Tucker. Craft's definitely my favorite. Interesting
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: pricing note Fandle the DraftKings talked about the Cash Show DraftKings.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: He's the highest priced tight end on the site. We'll
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: keep his ownership lower. Fandle, he's the fourth highest price
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: price tight end on the site. Will definitely be more
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: popular over there. I think he's a good play on
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: both sites. His yards after catch, he's just a beast.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: And then I think Packers defense. I think they have
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: a lot of outs to get after after the quarterback,
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: and I mean, yeah, you could see a big score there.
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: So pretty much just those two.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: It's just everything I said about the Lions can say
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: about the Packers. But I'm a lot more scared fading
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: the Lions than I am the packers because yeah, I mean,
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, the Lions can move
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: the ball a lot better at home than it.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: Feels like the packers.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: I will say the last thing.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: Weather.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: There really is no weather on the slate, but Ross
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: said that the winds are fifteen miles an hour, could
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: see gusts at twenty five thirty. It's only yellow. There's
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: no weather to worry about. I'm the slate, but I
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: want to mention.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: That this might be my favorite comment in a long time.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Just wait, just wait.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I gotta check this now because I didn't look because
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: we're live on the show. But Nate just posted his core.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Oh it scored, it has it has a packer in it.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: It is not Golden.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, he's been calling me.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: He knows.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: No, it's not good either.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: It's wow. You got to get in the discord.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, gotta get in there.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: He could definitely couldn't resist his packers. But man, yeah
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: we made them in here pumping Golden. He's been stroking
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: that dude since week one.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Jacobs could do something on this slate.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: He would fit that balanced thing I met you know,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, and it's uh, somebody.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Who just ran all over Carolina? Somebody? What was it
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: who played them last week? Man? I can't remember to
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: three or something?
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Was it? Oh James Cook?
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, James, Oh yeah, yeah.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I think he just crushed and ran all over them
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: that so yeah, I mean, obviously Jacobs can do things here.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I just had a thought like if you went if
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I was doing this, and I'm probably not, but if
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: I did, it was you know, one or two lineups
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: like Jordan Love, I'll put it somewhe where it matters
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: if that's the case, but like Love Dobbs Craft, and
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: I'd probably use Jalen Cocher or something cheaper on the
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: other side, versus obviously tent would make the most sense
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: and fit. But I think that's where it gets a
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: bit tricky, and I try and look for something cheap
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: to be able to still fill it out with good
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: running backs and roll it out from there versus just
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: the same as everybody else will.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't have too much to
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: add on this game.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Packers d gonna go overlooked because we have the Rams
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: later at thirty nine hundred. We have the Chargers upcoming
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: at thirty eight hundred. We've got the Lions at thirty
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: seven hundred, so I just like, obviously you're paying up.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Well, say, I want to add on to that point
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: before we move on, because you know, titles talked about
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: it a little bit like we don't always advocate for
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: paying up at defense, but man, this might be the
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: week to put an emphasis on some of these strong
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: defenses because there's four or five that are in really
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: really good spots and we don't have many like cheap
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: defenses that look good. So this could be a week
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: to maybe prioritize defense a little bit.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: Good show defenses matter, I mean, even the positions. So
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: we've we've talked about it more and more. Shout out
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: to Lando. We got the Vikings Mason week, the Lions week,
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: Like you need those those scores some of the times
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: unless you have the Stone nuts. I don't know if
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: it's two weeks ago, like the defense at four in
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: the MILLI because he got everything else right, but you
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: I've started to prioritize defense a little more too, and
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: really thinking about stuff.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: So one thing I'll say about that, because it's a
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: good topic and all, I'll kick a question for a
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: little engagement in the chat.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: First, because Ham actually brought this up. I thought it
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: was funny.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: He said, we're gonna have Nathan Peterman two point zero
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: this week. If you remember that game when the I
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: think it was the Bills faced against the Chargers and
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: there was five interceptions in the first half or something,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: just absolutely ridiculous. Who is gonna be the Nathan Peterman
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: of the week and who can we include in this?
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: We can include JJ.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: McCarthy, Bryce Young, Tyler Show or however you say his
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: last name, and there's one more cam Ward cam mooardre.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: And the interesting thing about that, what I'll say is,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: as people are starting to answer that, I'm curious, who
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: do you think it would be this week that's gonna
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: be in the spot as we go to the Texans
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: at home versus the Broncos, Because I think title, like
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: you said, at the prioritizing of it, it's like, I
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: know there's high variants. I know it's tricky to figure
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: out a defense, but you're figuring out your pool. It's
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: high variants. That's why we may cap if you're playing
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: like an MME set and you're playing one hundred and
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: fifty linef so I'll take twenty percent whatever I get,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I get, but if you can finagle your pool, so
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: you got to think about who these players are coming
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: in and would they protect them in this spot or
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: are they just gonna let them feed them to the wolves?
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Because whatever happens happens, Who gives a shit.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Those are the spots you want, and that's you know
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: where you sometimes get that versus they bring somebody else in.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: We're like, Okay, they're gonna make this a really easy
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: game plan on them and go from there. So I
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: don't know, I think it's a definite option today with
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: some of these with some of these defenses we have.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: But title, I'll stay with you.
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: We got the.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Texans at home versus the Broncos. A lot of bo
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Nicks hate this week, even though it hasn't really done
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: anything wrong. It's just people are starting to say, like
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: it's like certain matchups, he's gotta been better, And they're
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: talking about Drake May who's coming up to the next game,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: being the better guy than bo Nicks. And if you
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: look into the stats, what's your thought here on the
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Broncos going into Houston.
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I got nothing bad to say about
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: bow Knicks.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: It's just you go from a really good spot to
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: one of the most difficult spots. Houston can play defense.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: They're at home, they're front seven's good. I mean, I
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: think they can get after bow Nicks a little bit here.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: I promise we'll get to games that I like more.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: I just and I like that that Bengals Bears game
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: to start it off.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: I really don't like this game.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Nico Collins again, when people are going up for Jamar,
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: Chase and Puka, he's kind of been a dead range.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: No.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Patrick Surtan big play guy. Like if Nico has twenty
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: five at the end of the night, he's on the
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: winner at I don't know, very very low ownership.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: Would I be shocked.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: No, so when I'm playing Manung guy a lot of
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: chalk and I fell on him as a one off.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: Sure. Other than that, though, I really don't like this game.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Houston d I think Collins my guy. Alex yesterday
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: on Leverage Lane w hoop, he brought up some Collins
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: stats for the games he plays. The problem the thing
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: about Collins, it's funny you said the thing about Jamison
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: earlier with jameson Williams, where it's like, oh, the eighty
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: million dollar cardio man or whatever. It's like this. The
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: thing about Collins is he would have a two thousand
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: yard season if he could stay healthy. Well, yeah, the
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: second part is very important to being able to make
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: that happen.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: So he is healthy right now, he's out there. It
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: is CJ.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Stroud who's not looking himself, but he can always bounce
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: back and this could be a spot but it is Denver,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: but no certain So that's I guess what the thought
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: process here is around the call and stuff back your boy,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Dalton Schultz is cleared to go. But what's your thoughts
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: here on the Texans at home versus the Broncos.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Just gonna be Nico Collins. I mean, this is an
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: ugly game, and the Texans have played a lot of
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: ugly games, and their defense is pretty good, their offense
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: is terrible, and I think they know that they have
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: to play the ugly games, and they've done a really
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: good job of playing a lot of ugly games. So
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: I just the total in this game is forty, and
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: we have a lot of totals around fifty. We have
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: a lot of team totals around twenty eight. These teams
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: are projected to square around twenty the running backs are
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: both splitting. You know, it's a crowded backfield on both sides.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Courtland Sutton really hasn't gotten the job done this year.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: It's a tough spot. It's just some Nico Collins and
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: that's it for me. I'm not I don't want to
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: play this game.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. The team total.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, the game total opened up much much higher,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: dropped like five points.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: It's actual open and not.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like it doesn't seem like that much
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: really changed beyond It's like it just you know, people
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: realized it. So maybe maybe that's part of it. But yeah,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: if you're going going here, I think Collins as a
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: one off. I think Texans d if you land on them.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: That's about all the interest that I have, So hoop,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: I'll stay with you Patriots at home versus the Falcons.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: I know there's certainly some people in our discord this
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: morning looking for the Bijon Robinson flat leg, even though
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: on paper bad matchup. But Bijon couldn't catch balls. He
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: can run, he could get three touchdown. I mean, it's
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Bjon Robinson. He could easily bounce back and have a
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: big week. But certainly hurt some feelings last week, that's
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: for certain.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's you know, Bijon sub ten percent.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: I mean probably not gonna have many opportunities to have
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: that situation in place. We're showing seven. I think that's
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: probably right, and it could come down well, it could
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: be five to six, like and if you're playing I
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: mean this comes down to if you're playing a lot
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: of teams. If you're playing a lot of teams, like
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: getting overweight on Bijon is easy, and even the matchup
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: is tough. Like he can catch eight balls, you know
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: so and get there without scoring like a touchdown. So
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: I'm interested in him, like I want the volume guys
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: on the Falcon side, Bijon and Drake London, And Drake
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: London's a guy that can get fifteen targets and you know,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: I want to play them the Patriots. I will say
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: almost I almost went with like Drake may As as
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: a core play today, but I just the same problem
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: remains when looking at Drake may stuff is like who
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: do you play him with? Like, and it's it's very difficult.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: I know, we talked about it last week. I think
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: title had brought it up. It's like it's very tough
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: to pair him with a pass catcher. And then you
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: look at Hunter Henry, but it's like man tight end
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: is absolutely loaded today. You know, I'm fine getting some
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Hunter Henry, but as like a main team sort of thing,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: it's just tough to play Drake May. And I do think,
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: you know, Remondre Stevenson being out could lead to some
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: additional Drake May run. So maybe it's just Drake May naked.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: I'd be fine playing him without any pass catcher, I think,
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: but I do really like him. I just struggle to
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: find the way to play on Trey Von Henderson, I
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: think is fine. You know, I don't think he's like
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: a slam dunk play. I mean, I definitely prefer a
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: nung guy and you know project and everyone does. So
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: it's not saying anything crazy, but I do worry that
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: they don't give him like the full full workload like
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: with Manungay. You know, he's getting all the work. With
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Trayvon Henderson, you know, I don't think he gets the
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: full on work, but he's cheap. And again we talked
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: about it in the Cash Show a little bit, and
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: it does differ a little bit in tournaments for sure,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: but where he's priced, especially on fando, he's like fifty
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: two hundred, like one touchdown and you're good, like you're
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: you're cool with that and you're moving on DK. I
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: do a little bit more, so I definitely perform more
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: on fanduo, but he's fine. I love Drake May. I mean,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: you can definitely play him with digs, but man, so
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: many guys are willing to throw the ball to Booty Hollins,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: the Mario Douglass. It's just so many guys. But I
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: do like the spot and it could be a sneaky
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: game too, like if you played Drake May and you know,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: pick your your favorite option and then you know Bijon
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: on the other side, that's a nice little low owned
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: stack there. So I am. I am interested in this
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: tough though, to figure out how to play Drake May.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Drake nay kid, if you want.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: To go and plays all over.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: I think it's more interesting to figure out the Henderson
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: stuff too, because I know the chat's already talking about
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: a title and with the you can play mcnung guy
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: and Henderson if you wanted to on this light and
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: then just pick a pay up or go different with
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: your lineup construction. But the other thing is Henderson is
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: right there three hundred bucks more depending on how you
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: project him, and we have him met a little bit higher.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I think then he does start to look all right.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: But then obviously the ownership looks like you could travel
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: with him as well. How do you actually think the
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Henderson situation plays out. What's your thoughts on him and
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: then the rest of this game.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: I'm a little nervous about it for the sense of
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: they've been so hesitant to just get this guy involved
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: when Stevenson has given him every right to get involved.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: With his fumble problems and stuff. He can't pass block,
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: which is definitely a concern when you have, i mean
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: their franchise quarterback back there as well.
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: You need to do that.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: As a running back, Terrell Jennings has a real prop
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: the backup running back twenty real prop twenty two and
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: a half rushing yards. Trayvon's is fifty two and a half.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: Like he's gonna be on the field. Travion is not
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: gonna be on the field nearly as much as Mnonguay.
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: He's minus one fifteen to score one fifteen, which isn't bad,
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: but when you're comparing Manungui and Trayveon props like Manonguy
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: looks so much better. Ownership will obviously follow, but I
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: just think there's a lot more pass Henderson can fail.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: On top of him.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: Drake May is good, like he can design run himself,
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: he can mix it, throw it around to everyone. So
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: I don't love Trayveon to be on and so I'm
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: gonna play some. He's really cheap. He's a good player.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: One screen pass he can take it. But you can
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: definitely play Drake May with Trayveon. But I'm a little
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: more hesitant on the lower. Not only is it manong guy,
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: we have Tracy, we have war Jalen Warren is pretty
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: cheap at fifty five hundred if you want to find
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: the money there. We have plenty of cheap running backs.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: So I don't know about Trayvon. I'm a little scared
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: Drake May. Oh, I'm kind of kicking myself. Like I
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: said it last week and it was right like who
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: is it? But then I was like it's Booty, and
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: it is. It's like always Booty. Now the dude just
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: absolutely check out Rio's value report.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: And we got to clip that all right. We got
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: to get someone to clip them play that song in
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: the background. Booty Booty, Booty booty.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: I mean it has been always booty. It's tough though, because, yeah,
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: I like digs a little bit. I like Henry. You
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: can play May naked. The thing with Drake May is
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: the dude's just I mean, he's a baller and he
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: keeps getting the job done. You go look at the
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: game log like you probably wanted him on a lot
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: of teams. Our guy a Nung Newing.
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: Exactly how to pronounce his name, big guy hunter k
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: in the two percent, Drake May in the fifteen hundred
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: last week. Super sharp and when you play plays like that.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: He had a snowflake in his team. You don't have
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: to be perfect when you get off the board and
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: stuff like that. So Drake May has thirty plus pointing upside.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: His pass catchers are all cheap. I'm gonna play some,
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: but yeah, it's kind of back to the Lions and
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: the Packers, where it's it's really really tough. But I
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: do think the Patriots is my favorite spot to try
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: and figure out. They're a lot They're cheaper than a
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: lot of those The lines and stuff too.
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I like this game a little bit.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I will say the secondary stack maybe have like Henderson
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: in London or Henderson Pitts. I think is a nice
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: way to get some action to this game. There's definitely
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: a possibility we see a little bit more of a
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: back and forth if you're going drank May. I prefer
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: the overstack, but I get the just playing him naked
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: like that makes sense because it's hard to figure out.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: It's just as bad off as like some of those
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: other spots we talked about with the Love spot or
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: the Mahome spot, which, like you said, has even got
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: easier now.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: I actually think later when we get to it, it'll
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: be a spoiler.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: I'll spoiler alert now, but I think Buffalo is harder
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: to stack, even though I'm going to try the Kansas
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: City stuff. Now it seemingly has become a little bit easier.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Yet they still spread it out a ton, so it
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean it's easy. It just feels easier to build
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: the lineup with the Patriots. You've got May, Henderson, Diggs, Booty,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: one of Hollins or Pop Douglas seem to be able
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: to get into the mix if they want to as well.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: You have Hunter Henry. Oh wait, it's not him, that's
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Austin Hooper catching the ball. Oh they look the same.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. So it's really tricky from that perspective.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: But I do think the difference maker this week on
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: the the thought process around this is the Falcons being
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: able to keep in this with Pennis back. It's not
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: because of him necessarily, but it's the full you've got Robinson,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: you've got with London back.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: It just makes things a little bit easier.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Now we talked about Mooney last week when it was Mooney, Casey,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Washington and Pitts. It's a little bit different than with
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: and cousins versus Pennix and London being in the mix.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: On top of Robinson Mooney, you've got Pits and then
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: even Tyler Algier who gets in the mix. So you
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: could see them push it at least a little bit here.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: That would be the one thing. And then title the
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: chat was getting.
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: On you a little bit.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: You didn't you didn't bring Hunt into the into play
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: when you talked about those cheap running backs.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: That's all I gotta sayt Mega cheeks, that dude, We'll
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: get there. I mean he's not. I'm not saying it's
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: a daily fantasy game. Like yeah, if there was ever
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: a spot for Hunt to get there, but I mean,
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: just it test Wise watched the guy.
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: He might run like a five five forty right now.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Title is biased too, don't forget because he does not
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: have a Hunt Chiefs Jersey that he wants to keep forever.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: It's it's another one McKinnon that he's got over there,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: so he's against this guy. But by the way, speaking
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: of kicking at old school, we will get there later.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Cech brought up to the squad this week. So they
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: got wow E on their squad this week. That is
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: gonna be something else.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: To say that X first round pick LSU guy they
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: went all the way and Mahomes wanted Clyde Edwards. Imagine
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: if they actually made a good pick there, how good
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: that team could have been.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well we'll get there in a little bit
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: on this stuff.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of good conversations coming up here in
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: the chat, but just to see it, yeah, well we'll
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: see O this one goes.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Let's move on though. I think this one's a really
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: interesting one. Title and I'm gonna.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Stay with you where are we at with the Jackson
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: dark conversation now when it comes to cash games, and
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: then leak it over into tournaments as well, because I
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: know at fifty two hundred, I think his rushing prop
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: is almost forty alone. It's not like he's some three
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty yard pass guy. But you never know
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: our stack rankings like him the back and forth of
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: this game. What's your thoughts on Jackson dart and this
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: game against the forty nine ers?
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: Very much?
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: And play for cash if you want to spend down
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: the floor of him is just so much better than
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: a lot of guys because that rushing floor, like you said,
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: thirty six and a half rushing prop. Now know Scatabo,
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: there's this in run plays for him. He's a game
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: or two man. He's fun to watch. He can make
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: plays with his legs, extend plays. He doesn't have the
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: best weapons out on the outside, but I'm going to
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: play him just because he can have two rushing touchdowns.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: And if that's the case, there's so many different ways
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: to go about it. I honestly don't even think I
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: hate going dart Tracy. It's not my favorite ways to
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: do it, but Tracy can catch some passes out of
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: the backfield, and then you just get every single rushing
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: attempt with touchdown upside from both of them as well.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Probably my preferred way is to play him with THEO
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: or Wandale or even both. And I don't hate Slayton too,
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: So Dart will be pretty popular.
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: Pretty popular quarterback is.
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: Always a lot lower than like it really matters at
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, and he has so many
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: ways that you can pair him that the ownership is
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: even less within stuff because you can get different with it,
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: which people will do.
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: I really like the giant stuff.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: Again, I'm definitely in on Dart, definitely in on the catchers,
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: and then the runbacks are clear. You have Christian McCaffrey,
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: who's gonna be popular, but just looks like it's such
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: a great spot. I mean, he can catch ten balls
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: in this one too. What is he to get a touchdown?
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: I think it was yeah, minus two twenty. I mean
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: he looks like a slam dunk. But do know like
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: people will be when they're spending up at running back,
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: it will be McCaffrey over JT over all the other
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: ones with that price discount.
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: So once you start going.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: Manong Guy McCaffrey Dart, like, start start really thinking about
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: the other spots. Maybe that's when you go Slayton and stuff.
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: Jawan Jennings.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, they're still beat up at receiver and he's
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: forty three hundred George Kittle forty eight hundred tight end's good.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: He's gonna have to be low owned. So yeah, it's
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: maybe it's weird. I'm passing on like these Lions, the Packers,
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: all these games, and I'm slamming this game. But I
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: really like it on both sides. We play a salary
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: based game. A lot of these guys seem pretty cheap.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hoopball, I'll kick it over to you on this one.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: The spot looks really good. It reminds me of like
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: last week with Tampa Bay, New Orleans, where it's like
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: we can just over stack the shit out of it
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: and see what happens.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: I think those builds look really good.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: You won't get the opportunity to late swap the late
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: swa opportunity as I like to call it. You won't
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: get that this week, though. You will find out early
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: on what's gonna happen in this one.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: So give us your thoughts. Giants at home versus the
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: forty nine ers.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's cheap. And besides Christian McCaffrey, everything
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: here is really cheap. Like the quarterbacks are cheap. Both
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: of them play kind of built my preliminary teams, and
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: I was getting a lot more of these quarterbacks than
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: I anticipated. So, you know, unless I go in and
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: manually change something, like I'm gonna have a lot of
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: this spot, I think I'm fine with it. Like if
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: you play like the Giant Stacks, like you're gonna be
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: able to get some of these stud running backs, You're
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: gonna be able to get some Jonathan Taylor, gonna be
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: able to get some Bjeon Robinson. So from that perspective,
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: I like this game because of what it can do
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: for the rest of your lineup. Like the only expensive
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: piece here is Christian McCaffrey, and he's a great play
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: don't get me wrong. Like you can definitely play him,
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: and I will be playing a lot of them, but
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: it allows you to play other expensive things outside of
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: this game. I think both quarterbacks are fine. You got
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: a cheap running back in Tracy if you know, all
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: all the pass catches are cheaper. Juwan Jennings Kittle is
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: is cheap Wondale Robinson, Slayton, Steo Johnson at tight end,
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: so you have a lot of cheap options. I guess
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: the reason I like this game is what it can
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: do for the rest of your lineup when you play it.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, again, there's just one spend in this game,
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: and it's Christian McCaffrey, who definitely a good, good, good option.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: But if you want to go elsewhere with your spends,
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: it allows a lot of flexibility within your lineups. I
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: think this is a good game to stack and then
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: have a strong secondary stack to go along with it.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: Like if you load up on this one and you
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: want I don't know, like you can do you know,
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: Gibbs and Justin Jefferson or something like, you have so
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: unlimited options if you stack this game. So I like
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: it and overstacking I think is fine, good game to target.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what was I going to say? There was something
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: else somebody had brought up about this one, but yeah,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: what one wonder Lay Wanderlay. Wanderlay.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: That's the guy you can get in there if you
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: want to make something happen. But I think, yeah, the
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: overstacks of this game of what I have most interesting.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: I also think Mac Jones became a lot more interesting
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: to me just overnight. And you know, I got it
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: in the slate plan and thoughts around that. It's the
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: opposite side of Dart. We've seen this a million times.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: He's two hundred bucks cheaper. You can play him with McCaffrey.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: You can use it to move off McCaffrey, you can
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: run just passing its attacks. I think the other one, too,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: is the pricing. FanDuel and DraftKings can't decide, and you
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: guys know him in these fandul streets these days. If
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: you look at Jennings over there, it's you're like paying
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: up for probability because he's sixty one hundred versus he's
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: forty three hundred on DraftKings. On DraftKings, Born is five
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: k versus forty three hundred on Jennings, And we know
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: the Jones Bourne connection could still be there. So I
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: think it's a little bit interesting, and you could have
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: like a mac Jones, Jennings Born Kittle, skip out on
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: McCaffrey and get something from the other side if you
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: like it. I think the slate and stuff is interesting,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: So that's the thing. About this game versus the Tampa
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Bay New Orleans one last week. It's early, so there's
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: no real time to late swap for do anything. You
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: can't you're playing it or you're not. You're making that
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: decision right away. And then second, I think there's more
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: ways to get different within this. There's the you know
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: you do two tight end. I don't know if that's
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: the week four with all these running back values, but
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: just noting if there was a way that it would
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: get there, it would probably be in like a game overstack.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: So this game I've definitely got interested in. I think
• 54:19
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• 54:21
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• 54:23
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• 54:35
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• 54:40
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• 54:42
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• 54:46
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• 54:48
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• 54:52
  Speaker 1: So for nineteen bucks, less than twenty bucks. Give it
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: a shot. Anything else on this one, hoop?
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: If not, I'll let you take it to the Steelers
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: at the Colts and Jonathan Taylor a thousand bucks more
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: than McCaffrey, just using the most basic, easy example because
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: we were just on it and pretty much the exact
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: same projections and ceiling. Obviously his ownership much lower because
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: of that, But yeah, I think that's where people struggle
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: this week. At almost ten k for Jonathan Taylor on
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: draftings at least.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, another game that should go kind of overlooked. And
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: the one thing that definitely stands up to me in
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: this one is the Steelers defense has been dogshit. I mean,
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of people look at the Steelers and, oh, defensive,
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: you know, sort of team like their defense has been bad.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Now they're going up against i don't know, probably the
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: most productive offense like all around this year. I mean,
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: the Colts have just been rolling. Daniel Jones has been great,
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: Taylor's been great, Pittman's been awesome, Tyler Warren's been awesome.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: I kind of hate to go through all these games
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: and say I like them, but this is another spot
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: I really like. And again low ownership, it's not going
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: to take much Like again, it very It would be
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: very difficult for me to play three teams today like
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: I would just I don't think I'd be able to
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: do it. And if you are someone that normally plays
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: three and you want to play more, I would go
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: down in stakes and just play more contest or more lineups,
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: play twenty max instead of three if you feel comfortable
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: doing that, Because I just I want to exposure to
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: some of these spots, and this is one. I mean,
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: they're projected again to score twenty eight. Jonathan Taylor has
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: the right price tag on both sites, very expensive on
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: both and rightfully so he's been very, very good, and
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: that's just going to lead to low ownership. We're showing ten.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: I think it probably comes down. I think it's probably
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: eight win a luck seven or eight, So in on him,
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: Jones to Pittman, Jones to Moren and then on the
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: other side you got plays Jalen Warren fifty five hundred.
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: I think fine option, DK Metcalf, fine option. I'm not
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: going to mess with the tight ends for the Steelers,
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: but you have a lot of different ways to play
• 56:54
  Speaker 6: this game. It'll be low owned and I don't know
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: like you. Again, the Cults are rejected to score right
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: around twenty eight. They're another team that's projected to score
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: four touchdowns. So I want some exposure at low ownership.
• 57:07
  Speaker 6: So I'm in on this one. And again you have
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: direct run backs if you want Warren and DK Metcalf.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or you could play Warren squared in this game too.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: A little secondary stag, but I think this is the
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: one title I spent some time on this on leverage lane.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: I know probably not everybody gets to catch that, but
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: just a note on this game. It is one where
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: I sort of reverse engineer the thought process. And also
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: I'll repeat it quickly. But like when you're if you're
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: not on Jonathan Taylor, I get that. Like the price
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: we just talked about it, you have CMC, same projections,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: different ownership, but a thousand bucks. It can add up,
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: it can move, you can move different things. There's if
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: you want to go Gibbs, there's so many ways to go.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: Plus all those value running backs. So at least I
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: get that. But then you talk about this Colts team
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: with a huge team total, even on the road, and
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: usually at least a more condensed offense, especially if you're
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: not going to Jonathan Taylor. So you're thinking about, Okay,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: now it's Daniel Jones, Pittman Downs, Pierce Warren.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Is there other dudes that could get in the mix?
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Sure, but you can definitely stack Daniel Jones with two
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: or three options. So I am thinking about this spot
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: in a lot of lineups if I'm not on Jonathan Taylor,
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: because there's where do these points come from?
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Do they happen? I think yes?
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: And then where are they coming from? I'm going to
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: try and figure that out of my lineups. What's your
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: thoughts on that? And then this game as a whole.
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure.
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: I mean I'm staring at the stone right now and
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: I see two defenses that are pretty bad through the
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: air and two that are solid through the ground. And
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: I like that in the sense of like JT's super expensive,
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: and yeah, I mean not these good plays minus three
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: tennis score ninety six and a half rushing prop whatever.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: If he gets one touchdown ninety six the yards, He's
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: probably not on the winner. But all these Colts pass
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: catchers like they're so much cheaper. I mean, I think
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: Tyler Warren is very mispriced. And finally, it seems like
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: a game where in the second half it could be close.
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: The Colts have just dominated so many teams in the
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: first half. JT gets all this stuff and the pass
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: catchers don't get anything after that if this game's competitive.
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: Alec Pierce, I mean, he gets like at least one
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: deep shot a game, and he can haul it in.
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: He big body, the box out an MDA or basketball
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: term box out the dB last time just went up
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: and grabbed it like you can do that again. Pittman's
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: been great. Downs is my least favorite of the bunch,
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: and I watch it be a Downs there. I have
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: nothing against him, It just it seems like Pittman and
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: Warren have been his primary targets. But I'd like Daniel
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: Jones pair him with two or whatever you want to do,
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: and run it back with either Jalen Warren or DK Metcalf.
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: I think Warren Warren He's gonna be pretty popular, no doubt,
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: but he would have been way more popular if we
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: didn't get like Mnungai stuff or the Tracy stuff like
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: there's just other cheap running backs that'll eat into his ownership.
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: He can catch passes out of the backfield. He's been
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: very efficient. Rodgers will dump it down. I like him
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: a lot. And then Dk Metcalf. This Colts team has
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: been really good this year, but they have been vulnerable
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: through the air. If they get down two touchdowns and
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: Rodgers has to sling it, it's always look off the safety,
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: come back to DK, find him when he's one on one.
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: So I like this game quite a bit for sure.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: First stacking coltside, you have a clear run back either
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: Warren or in Metcalf.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot, a lot of different ways you could
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: go here. I definitely like the Colt side. I think
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: it's just a ton of different ways you can play it.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: I think the one that i've you know, I came
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: around to Bourn a little bit more in the previous game.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: I definitely have love for Jennings there. He's just been great.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: I think the same conversations being had around Alec Pierce here.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: He's been fine. He can catch a ball, you know,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: a couple of balls downfield. They just like toss it
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: up to him, so that would be how it sets
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: it up. But I also think it could be Downs,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: and I really like Warren. The interesting thing about Warren
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: is everyone's talking about Tucker Crafts ceiling game last week.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Well check your calendars and watch who they played last week.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: It was the Pittsburgh Steelers. So it could be a
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: good spot for my namesake, mister Tyler. Warren love to
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: see that spot hit as well, So if you want
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: to really stack it up, you can go like Jones, Pittman,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Warren and even pick one of Downs and Pierce and you.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: Don't have to run it back. But it could be
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: a spot for Metcalf.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: The other interesting thing is Metcalf is the exact same
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: price as Warren, and that would be a spot where
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: people would be using Warren in a in a running
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: back or flex, most likely where you could get away
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: with a wide receiver in the flex based on the
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: setup of your build because you're not going with Warren,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: you're going with Metcalf instead. So at least somewhat interesting
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: from that perspective. But the Pittsburgh side pretty healthy. It's
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: just a bunch of guys that it's hard to pick through,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: so I think we want to go to Colt.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Side on that one hoop.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: I'll kick it back to you Chargers at the Titans
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: the last of the Morning Games. I talked about it
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: last week, having to sit through and late swap to
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: these Titans and watch this guy cam Ward.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: It is a very tough scene.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: So I think the Chargers D is certainly in play here,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: and then you've got Kamani Vidal with no Haskins.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: You got all kinds of opportunity here.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: I think on this Charger side it can be tricky
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: to get right as well, with guys like Gadsend and
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: QJ as the outliers to the Maconkeye Allen Vidal and
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: set up that they have there.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Give us your thoughts on this one.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean charge with D for sure. Videll just
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: where he's priced. I mean he's a little more expensive
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: than those cheap guys, and then you know he's not
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: in that top tier. He has to be held in
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: check a lot of different ways to get there. I
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: think he's totally fine. The Justin Herbert stuff, it's getting tough,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: you know, similar to what was it like Drake May
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: We talked about how it's difficult to stack him. The
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: Chargers difficult to stack Herbert, I guess for another reason,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: just because so many options. It was Quentin Johnson earlier
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: on in the season. Now it's not Quintin Johnson, and
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: he's going to be like unowned, So I guess that
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: is like that would be maybe like a low owned
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: sort of play where early on in the season, like
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: if Quintin Johnson's price where he was, we're just absolutely
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: jamming the guy. Uh Now it has been you know,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: kind of three straight weeks of not too much. I
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: don't hate him as a low owned option if you
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: are playing Herbert lad McConkie's fine, Keenan Allen's fine, and
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: then Gatson just has to be held in check because
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: there's so many tight end plays and he finally has
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: that price bump, so you know, there are again projectors
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: score a lot of points. I don't think ownership is
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: going to be all high outside of McConkie. Vidal will
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: get some. It is tough though, like do you want
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: a Titans run back? And for me that's the answer
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: is absolutely not like zero interest in playing any Titans day.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: So many good teams today. I just can't. I can't
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: click any of these names. So I do want some
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: exposure though to the Chargers, and again another reason to
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: you know, look to maybe drop down in stakes and
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: play more more lineups today opposed like a three max
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: or five max. Just so many, so many spots where
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: guys and teams could go off, and this is definitely
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: one of them.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like my guy Aaron over here, he's got
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: it covered. I think Vidal fits that same mentioned that
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: I had earlier. If you have something like a Gibbs
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: v doll with Williams coming up in the next game, yeah,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: you have no Hmanung guy, But I'm saying you could
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: have seventy five percent an Unguy in your portfolio, or
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: you could have them in four of your five max
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: or something like that. You've got eighty percent of them
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: within your five max and you end up going this road.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: I just think it is somewhat interesting to do something
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: like that. That chat was mentioning Shamir DK. This guy
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: could be the guy if he gets something going in
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: the slot, but it also could be you know, six
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: catches for sixty and that's what you get. So title,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: I'll kick it to you on this one. You're Chargers
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: on the road in Tennessee against the Titans.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: Is it DK or Dyke?
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: For sure?
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: K well either way, just for the sake of the name.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: For sure. I just had that.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: I've never watched the volley or never have the volume
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: on for the.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Tennis d on the on the broadcast.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean if you're playing any Titan, I
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: guess you can do that. We're playing eleven games slate
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: though it's Showdown. I'm sure play him, like I can't
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: play these these Titans. Yeah, I think vid all Chargers defense.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: I like, I'm not going to compare Cam Mooard to
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: Nathan Peterman. I actually think cam Ward's talented, and I
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: hope he finds a spot eventually to get some pieces
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: around him and a coach and.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: Just a franchise.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: But I mean, right now, with what he's working with,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: he has an uphill battle all game long.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: And I this Chargers. They're favored by ten beat all.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: He has to be cut in check just because you
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: can go a thousand down and you can find starting
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: running backs for cheaper. He's kind of in a dead
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: range there. He'll get ownership, But I mean, I don't
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: think really enough. Being ten point favorites minus one fifty
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: five to score seventy six and a half rushing prop
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: he looked good like I nothing.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: Everything screams vid All is a great play.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: Pair them with Charters defense Titans have been someone to
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: pick on all year.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: I like it now if it's.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: Not of a vat all day, I think I'm just
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: more likely to play these guys as one offs and
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: just hope I get the Ladd McConkey day, I get
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: the Gadson day.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: It's more condensed there.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: I don't love the Herbert full stack, just I'm worried
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: that they don't get pushed. And there's I think whatever
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: is on the winner, whatever stack or quarterbacks on the winner,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: I have a hard time seeing them not be pushed
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: on the other side. With an exception, maybe it's the
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: Lions because we've seen Dan campbell willingness to run it up.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: But I think it's Vidal.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: I think it's the Charters d And if I had
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: to pick any pass catcher, I think I'm.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: Just gonna go Lad.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: It feels like it's starting to turn back to last year,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: where Ladd is the wide receiver.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: One props agree he is the most.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: Receiving yards for the Chargers receiving room, and then it's
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: Gats actually Keenan forty six and a half, then Gats
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: and then Johnston. Crazy, it's a week to week NFL
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: how far that has changed. But Vidal is my favorite
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: with Chargers.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: D had some sixty four hundred over on FanDuel just
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: and see it the way it goes. It's not like
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: it's not deserving from what he's been doing. I'm just
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: saying it's crazy to think about what he was just
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: a few weeks back, and that's kind of the way
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: that it goes that way. Speaking of DK, that guy
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: there was a it was the interception at the end
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: of the game last week. It was one hundred thousand
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: dollars interception because if DK catches that ball, it was
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: the bonus, the touchdown for him and Ward and that's
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: what I needed as I was creaking up the board.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: So it happens, but a lot of people were waiting
• 1:06:43
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• 1:06:44
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  Speaker 2: swap opportunities on this leg. Give us your thoughts on
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: this game here, because I think this is something we
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: could see that becomes where people are, you know, going
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: on the Casey Bills or they're making the Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 2: stuff happen. But there is Phuka Nakua back on, there
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: is the Williams. They're coming off a buye, they're going
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: against the Saints. What's your thoughts on this one?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the one thing that definitely stands out is they're
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: again projected to score a lot, and I don't think
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: ownership is going to be all that high. Like if
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: people are deciding between Jamar Chase and Puka, I think
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: majority of people are going Jamar Chase over Puka, which
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: will hold his ownership in Czechlo. But DeVante Adams has
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: a big boy price tag that people do not want
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: to pay anymore. And then Kyron Williams is kind of
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: again in a weird spot and I like Kyron actually
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: quite a bit. So maybe that's the way that I
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: get most Max Bosher here. They're favored by fourteen and
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: a half or something, and then you can just naturally
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: pair him with the Rams defense like Kyroen and Rams
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: defense I think is a really good play. Kyen should
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: be held in check again. We talked about VDAL last game.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: Same thing with Kyron, like he has to be held
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: in check a little bit. I will have some Stafford stuff,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: but you know, DeVante Adams looks overpriced and I think
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: probably a really really low owned option. Now, if you're
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: trying to get involved in this game in total, it's
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: a little difficult because I don't want to play anything
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: on the Saint side projected to score fourteen points two touchdowns,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: like there is nothing here. You know, maybe some Alave,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: some Shaheed if you want, but this is a slate
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: where it should be very high scoring. Like in if
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: I'm playing guys and I'm getting overweight on guys, I
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: need them to have a huge ceiling, and I just
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: don't know what sort of ceiling these Saints players have today.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: So I guess, yeah, now that I know kind of
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: talked through this, I think Kyrain Williams Rams defense. It's
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: definitely my favorite way to go about this game. And
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: you know, I like it quite a bit. I like
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: spending a defense. Like we talked about it, It's not
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: a lot of times where we're actively looking to spend
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: that defense, and I think I am actively looking to
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: spend that defense today. And Rams are you know, might
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: be at the top of the list.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, our guys, Sean says, Saints get Curbs dear. Sure,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: the Rams get up early and the Rams just run
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: with Kiren and Korum to end the game. This is
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: probably a possibility to shout out to Michael Tyler here,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: but it's like you said, who gets them title?
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: What's your thoughts on this game? And if that's the case,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: who gets them?
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: Pooka's back. I like Pooka. The dude's a freaking man.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: Are people forgetting?
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: There's just so many design receiving His first read is
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: always Pooka. He's always open. He has all the upside
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: in the world. So he's my favorite play by far. Yeah,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: I like the Kiren take. I nothing wrong with that.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: There sixty eight hundred you can play with Rams d
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: similar to the Vidal Chargers stuff.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: For talking.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: Davante, Yeah, he is way way up there.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 5: There's no doubt about that.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: If I play Davante, do I just go Stafford and
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: get all the way?
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: I really don't love it. Outside of Pooka, Rams d Kyron,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: So I'll just leave it there.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: I guess from a late swap perspective, like go collect
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: our man, Kyle just mention this, I would take it
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: a step further just to say that. I think if
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: you're dead going into the afternoon with your Mahomes lineups,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: which people are definitely playing them, it's somewhat of a
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: clip this week. It's fair enough to say, and for
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: good reason, the way he's played this season, but just
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: noting it, that would probably be the late swap, right,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: you can move again. Of course we'll get to this
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: next game with Lawrence and Geno. There's tons of different
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: ways you could go with these next two. But I
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: think if you're stuck on something there and you want
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: to move off of it, I wouldn't hate trying to
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: get to like the Stafford Pooka Adams stuff. You don't
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: need to run it back and just see what that
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: looks like when you're switching out your builds and and
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: doing stuff that way, because it's probably lower owned, and
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: you'll also have a good inclination of what the Nakua
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: stuff is gonna be for real, once you see what
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: the Chase stuff is.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: And I'm talking by stuff, I mean ownership.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Once you see what that ownership is early on Chase,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: Like Hoop said earlier, it's gonna be directly correlated with
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: the Puka stuff later on at the eighty five hundred
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: dollars price tag.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. I like the Stafford side. You
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: are paying up for probability.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: One thing I'll say is, if you do have all
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: these value running backs on this late this could be
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: a spot. It's pretty much this and the Kansas City
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: Chiefs and Bills game where the payoff spots are where
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: you go to expensive quarterback more expensive quarterback at Stafford
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: at sixty three hundred Nakua eighty five, Adam seventy five,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: move on from there. That would be a way to
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: do it differently. But I don't know, title, Do you
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: have anything else you want to add to this one?
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: If not, we could go to Jags at the Raiders.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, really, Jaggs Raiders.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: I actually do like this game quite a bit, probably
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: my favorite in the afternoon. The reason I like it,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: I'll start on the Jag side is, I mean, really
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: sad it was Travis Well, it's not like he died.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: I mean Travis Hunter he's out for four weeks, but
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: he was finally coming on.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: It almost looked like wide receiver one.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: Now he's out for four weeks non contact, but it
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: just leaves these Jaguars pass catchers under price up. Yeah,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: people might hate it. I'm gonna keep playing Brian Thomas.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna forget what he did last year and
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: the potential this guy has in the upside. So I
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: think Brian Thomas for sixty two hundred is a great play.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: But you also have two other cheapies below four K,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: Parker Washington and Demi Brown. Like I can just easily
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence stuff because it doesn't take much salary to
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: pair him with. He gets me the bonus at three
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: hundred even two touchdowns. I think there's a lot of
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: ways to go, and I think I had the nut
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: runback in brock Bauers. He's five K. He's fully healthy.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: That's all I need to hear. He's fully healthy. It's
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: five k's drafted like what sixteenth pick and best ball
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: and stuff like that. Earlier he was far and away
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: the best tight end, So I'd get the best tight
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: end or one of the best in football five K.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: I get plenty of cheapees on the other side. And
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: then if you're avoiding this whole game where like we
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: talk about Portfolio, Raiders defense is the same price as
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: Falcons defense, and they might be half the ownership. So
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: if you want to pivot at the defensive position, we
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: know Lawrence can make mistakes there.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I like this game quite a bit.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be playing Laurence stuff, and brock Bauers seems
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: very very strong.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Hoop sold me a little bit on the Lauren stuff,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: I think. And also then the discord this morning was
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: chatting about there's tons of different ways you can go.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: I've got lineups that feature three of these guys with them.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: Think you got the Parker Washington situation, but then all
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: but he's gonna be a chock value.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, let me put him in with Brown as well.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: Let me put him in with with Thomas Junior, let
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: me run it back with Bowers, let me not run
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: it back at all and play the balance running backs
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: that I talked about, where most people already have Manung
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: guy whatever ends up happening and goes from there, but
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: you could have a bunch of other points put up
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: in different ways, so you can get completely different roster
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: construction builds. I do like that the Raiders d calls
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: a way to get different at the cheap range. I
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: will say, though, and I said this last week, Hoop,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: I'll kick at you on this point. Is when we
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: did the box score watching like you do for the
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: Kickers and showdown. The Jags haven't been that bad either,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: and people talk. People literally said Gino's name when I
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: didn't include him earlier in Who Could be the Nathan
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: Pierman of.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: The Day Jr.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: Pops as well too, a little bit in the stone,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: So if you had something, you don't need to mix them.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying there's definitely thoughts here around some options
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: to go at defense in this game too.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I'm fine playing either defense. But I actually
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: really like the offensive side of this game for sure.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: It's kind of starts with Brian Thomas, like it just
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: the dude is too talented and like he just has
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: to do something. I've been playing a lot of them
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: this season. I'm sticking with it. I just I think
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: this is a spot. It's a really good matchup against
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: the Raiders. Now Hunters out of the mix and again
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: he wasn't doing anything crazy, but like it just eliminates
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: one body and the targets could be massive for Brian Thomas.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: The prices at an all time low. I'm just I'm
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: in on it, and I'm in on the Trevor Lawrence
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: stuff as well, and it's kind of more so like
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: what it does for the rest of the lineup. We
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: kind of talked about it in that Samffran Giants game
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: where you can stack it up and then you're able
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: to get big, you know, stud pieces to go along
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: with it. That's kind of why I like this game.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: Like I can play Trevor Lawrence with Brian Thomas, Parker Washington,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: Deami Brown if you want. And then if you do
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: want to stay within this game, you have an underpriced
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: Black Bollowers, you can go to Jacoby Myers, you can
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: go to Trey Tucker and it's all super cheap, and
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: then I'm able to play other expensive guys with it.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: So I really like the spot for Trevor Lawrence in
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: the offense the running backs here. I'm not going to
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: have as much of etn gent, not not super excited
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: about it, but I'm very interested in this game ownership
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: should be should be held in check for sure. There's
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: nothing any Bowers is going to get some ownership, Brian
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: Thomas is going to get some ownership, Parker Washington will
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: get some. But it's not like a crazy amount where
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: you have to avoid it, and it's just another cheap
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: game that I think could go off. I think this
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: game could go off, but I'm also playing the defenses too,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: and we're talking about the Jaguars and the Raiders like
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: anything could happen here. Gino has been terrible, he's been
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: really really bad, but he's getting Bowers back and I
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: think that does make a difference. So a variety of
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: ways to play this one, but this is the my
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: sneaky game. The total sit at forty three, much lower
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: than some of these other spots. I think it could
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: potentially go off. So I do like this one. And again,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: people will play Brian Thomas, people will play Parker Washington,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: people will play Bowers, but not many people are going
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: to be playing the quarterbacks here. That's the main difference.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: And I don't even hate some Gino as well. He's
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: been very very bad, but forty six hundred, forty six
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: hundred for Gino, he's got Jacobe Myers. He has brock
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: Bauers back. Like I'm in on that side of it too,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: So I like this game.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think if we get the big Brian
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: Thomas junior game, it's gonna be something big. Like it's
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: not just I don't think it's gonna just BEI yeah,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: eight for one hundred and a touchdown and we're like, oh,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: we finally had a big game. I think it's gonna
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: be when it happens, it's actually gonna be an explosion game,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: and it's gonna be something you're like, holy shit.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: He has eight for one sixty and two touchdowns. And
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: now that's obviously very helpful for Trevor Lawrence. That can
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: also make up for one of the cheapies.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: If you do want to put them with like Brown
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: and Washington and they only end up with ten or
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: eleven points at thirty eight or thirty seven, it's not
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: the end of the world if you do get that
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: boom for the other two guys with it, or if
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: you overstack it and then you don't need someone. But
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: there's definitely ways to push it. On the other side,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: what I do care most about is if you don't
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: want to try and figure out Jent Myers, Tucker Bowers,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: et cetera. You just feel like that can be something
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: that pushes the spot, like it's Gino with all his
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: options for once. Somebody mentioned in the chat here was
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: GBR Classics, So Gino's best game of the year was
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: the first time he's calling for that, But he said
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: first time of the year with Myers and Bowers in
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: the lineup together since week one. There was other comments
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: about when he had Bauers in the lineup two twenty
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: plus point gains this season. Obviously, twenty plus is good.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: At forty six hundred, if that happens, it's more of
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: a tournament play. But I think the Tucker spot looks good,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: the Bowers spot looks good.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: You never know what you're gonna get with Myers, but
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: it's a similar as the San Francisco side too.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: Before we go to this last game, title is Myers
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: is fifty four hundred on FanDuel to Tucker's fifty five hundred.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: But then you go over to DraftKings and they want
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: fifty three hundred for Myers and only forty eight hundred
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: for Tucker. So I don't know if anyone's even going
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: there anyway. But I just look at stuff like that
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: and see is there anything we can gleam off of that?
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: But anything else you have on this game, if not
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: take us into this one. The Chiefs at the Bills.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what a real life football game in this one, man,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: I think the Chiefs the best even in football right now.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: But you have Josh Allen.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: On the other side that always, I mean, anytime he's
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: two square off, it'll be a great game as far
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: as DFS, though that doesn't great real life game doesn't
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: necessarily translate to DFS.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 5: No, it definitely can.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: But I mean, well, I like Mahomes, I like Kelsey
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: at at want off position. I like Rashi Rice, but
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: after that, I'm really struggling. Like I always like my
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: guy Worthy, but it feels like the risk group. I mean,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: he has the big play up side, but it feels
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: like the floor is too low for me on an
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: eleven game main slate. It feels like a more afternoon
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: type one where it's clearly Rashi Rice and he really
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: still likes Travis Kelce right now. And yeah, like you said,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: the Juju Hollywood, there is other guys, but Rashid Rice is.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 5: The freaking man like I want to play a lot
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 5: of Rashi Rice.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: He hundred plus right upside, two touchdowns, ten catches, like
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 4: he can nuke this late. I want to be in
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: even at seventy six hundred Kelsey at forty six hundred.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: He continues to like him and the home So that's
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: really how I'm playing it. When I am playing Mahomes,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: I don't even love mahomes stuff much, though I don't
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: think I want too much of this game like stad
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: or whoever is saying I forgot cream Hunt like I said,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: no I did. He stinks plus one fifteen to score
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 4: fine forty seven and a half, rushing prop garbage. I
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: don't want cream Hunts at all. I do not think
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: it's a cream Hunt. Spot Bill's side. It's really tough,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: but you said I think Bill's side is harder to
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: get right than the chief side, and for that reason
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: and then having to pay all the way up for Josh,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: I'm really gonna play no Bills. Rice is my favorite.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: Playing with Mahomes is fine, Kelsey fine, and I won't
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: have much of this game again pre block again, late
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: swap and stuff. I'm gonna leave it in the hands
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: of everything, but yeah, pre stuff. I do not like
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: this game much. It's my least favorite in the afternoon window. Actually,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: Jaggs Vega is clearly my favorite.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: I love you went from pre flop post loop to
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: prelock post lone.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 5: I know I almost said pre flop, but I.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: Think it's funny because we know you're in the poker streets.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's obviously funny, but just that you could
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: flip the words pretty quickly and make it sound the same.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: I also thought you pulled it nicely. You were gonna
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: pull a little shark tank action there.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: He said it. For that reason, I'm out. When it
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: came to the l on.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: The investments of James Cook this week, our man Naid's
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: in the chat said, no one playing Cook again. It's interesting,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: and I think Nads is back with me this Monday, myself,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: him and Bellman will be back on the Takedown breakdown.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: We'll be walking it through tomorrow at ten am Eastern
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: with the results of this slate.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: But the one thing I'll say is last week on
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: the stone we had James Cook was definitely a good spot.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: Like you said, once you saw it and you went
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: back and saw it, you were like damn, like that
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: was something I should have thought about. It was a
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: way to get action to this every and you could
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: work here again. It really feels though, hoop. I know
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: there was some big Boys scores in the chat about
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: people posting it, but more people talking about it. The
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: common theme I keep hearing is the yous are gonna
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: bear down on defense. It feels like it's gonna be
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: under this if it's always baked in, why is the
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: total up to fifty two and a half? Like I
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: could certainly see that. What I could see happening is
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: an explosion game that is way lower owned than it
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: probably should be based on everything. And by the way,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: most people won't be able to late swap because this
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: is the spot they would be on if they're there
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: to late swap too. If you're already done in the
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: morning with everything else, you can't get there. You're just
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: gonna watch it happen. And then we see it in
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: the playoffs or something with a fifty point total and
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: then it's twenty to seventeen and one team grinds out
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: to win. We've seen this tons of times in all
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: sorts of football stuff. But what do you got with
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: this one who bills at home versus the Chiefs.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: I'd struggle with it.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 7: I mean, I'm going to be on it some in
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 7: my one fifty, but I do struggle with it, like
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 7: I you know, it kind of been We've been beaten,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 7: or at least two of us have been beating the
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 7: Mahomes drum for the entire season.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: Where he's a different quarterback this year than previous years,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: running it more, you know, kind of almost like a
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: running quarterback. Last year, they just wanted to win the nasty,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: ugly games and we, you know, we're in all we
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: were all in agreement where you know, not much. You know,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: Mahomes was needed last year and he definitely didn't this year.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: He's a different guy. But the problem I have with
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: the Mahome stuff, it's like you're gonna be the same
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: as everyone else. I guess someone's playing Mahomes. It's Rashie,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: Rice Kelsey or both. Right, And like there's just Worthy.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: I agree with what title said with Worthy, it's like
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: he's now the third option on the slate and even
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: if he does get like one touchdown, it's like you
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: need more than that on this sort of slate. So
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: I do struggle with the worthy stuff, so it's like
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: you're kind of in the same spot as everyone else.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: And then like the bill side doesn't look it's tough
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: to take get a bills like run back, Like, who
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: are you gonna play? I guess it's Shakir probably, which
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: I would be fine with playing Shakir. But the thing
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: about this game that interests me the most, I think,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: and I don't know like how much I'll have of it,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: But it's like you're looking at this game and now
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: everybody I'm gonna go against like my Mahome stuff a
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: little bit. Now everyone just wants Mahomes over Josh Allen,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: Like Mahomes is a better DFS quarterback than Josh Allen
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden because of you know what Mahomes
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: has done this season. So if you're building a couple teams,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: right and you want exposure to this game, I would
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: one hundred percent if I was handbuilding, played Josh Allen
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: over Patrick Mahomes. Like, to me, that's the easiest thing.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: Like Josh Allen was you know, DFSQB one basically all
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: last season you always wanted Josh Allen. Now everyone wants
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: Mahomes over Josh Allen. Josh Allen's at home, Like I
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: would just have to play Josh Allen over Mahomes in
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: those handbuild teams. And you know the nice thing about
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: playing Josh Allen is you don't have to pair him
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: with anyone. You can go Shaki, you can go Kinkaid,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: but it is tough. And then James Cook and know
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: Nate's posted in there about James Cook and he's been good.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: But man, there's just so many running backs. I do
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: kind of struggle with this one a little bit. But
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: the one take I would have for sure, if you
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: want exposure to this game and you want to play
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: it and your handbuilding, I would definitely play Josh Allen
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: over Mahomes. And then you're gonna be kind of different
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: than everyone else.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna have some full game stacks. You know
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: what side that's gonna start with. But I also think
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: the sharpest way to play this, and I think this
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: will really well actually today is to play Josh Allen
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: with Rice and Kelsey because they can have the games
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: where it's just I mean seventy six hundred Rice. It's yes,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: it would still help Mahomes, but I'm saying Josh Allen
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: could have every he could have two on the ground
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: for the bills. He needs something to push it. Those
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: are the guys that push it. He still outdes Mahomes
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: for just two hundred bucks more. You land on the
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: exact same build, you don't have to figure out his
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: side if you don't want to. Or you could try
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: and do it and throw like a Coleman in there
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: and still have Rice and Kelsey on the other side
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: and do an unconventional like a two to two where
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: it's like Alan and pick one with the other two
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: guys that I think it is from the other side,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: And then you're hoping what Hoop said is correct in
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: that Alan does outdo Mahomes for two hundred bucks. Different
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: because well, one quarterback is starting to run this season
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: a lot more than he has and it's been fine.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: I think the other quarterback we know loves to run,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: and he loves to run in touchdowns as well. So
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: that's the other tricky part of what the hunt thing.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: I'm with title on the prop stuff and everything with it,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: but to the point of, like a lot of people
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: saying the touchdowns variants, it's true, and I still agree
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: even on that angle of it. But it's like when
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: people are saying he needs those touchdowns, like you're talking
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: about the best team in the NFL getting to the
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: red zone, whereas where he gets his opportunities.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: Does this team get to the red zone?
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: Do they score thirty points often? Or can they? Yes?
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: Would that help him even though it's annoying as hell?
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: So it's like that's where the tricky stuff comes in.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: Obviously, when you have guys like Manung guy and situational
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: stuff there, it makes it tricky. But obviously you can
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: also play three running backs on a slate, So see
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: see how that works for you out there. I think
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: for me, you know the Coleman's Shakirs, Kincaid's Worthies. There's
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: enough guys in this game to move it around. But
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: if I had a lot of lineup saying I do,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: and I had none waiting for me at the end
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: of the day, I will not feel very comfortable because
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: you'll be winning a lot of money in the morning
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: because there is just simple math. Eight games in the
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: morning with a ton ownership versus the three afternoon games
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: that have what a little bit of rams D, a
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: little bit of Puka and Williams in that game.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: What do we see here?
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: A little bit of Parker Washington, maybe a little bit
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: of Brian Thomas but light and then some on the
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: case Bills with the Rice, but even like Kelsey's not
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: super own. So yeah, I mean, there's not much ownership
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: in the afternoon. So you will be winning a lot
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: of money if you're winning money going into these afternoon
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: games and then hoping that these things go badly. And
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: what we saw Tampa Bay, New Orleans go bad last week,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: let's just hope that does it again. But man, it's
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: not gonna feel good. Have you got a Chase Chiefs
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: Bills team chasing your ass down? Because if they start
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: popping early, it's gonna keep going most likely, and then
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: you're gonna be really in trouble if you don't have that.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: So I have interest here.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: It's on the Bills side, of course, leaning into playing
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: those guys on the chief side. But title anything else
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: you want to add for this slate or anything else
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: that we missed going into the finale here, you're.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 4: Just making me like this Hunt talk and all this stuff.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 4: I've been getting into college football a little bit, and
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 4: it's just names on a paper to me, And I
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 4: really like that actually, because like me watching all these games,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 4: I get biases like I'm watching with my own eyes
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 4: how bad I think Kareem Hunt looks. But that doesn't
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: necessarily Like we play a DFS game, opportunities like random
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: stuff can happen. So it just made me think, like
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: I know MBA, I know MLB, I know these guys
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: playing at DFS sport where it's just all on paper
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: processing ownership, that it's kind of different fun to mention
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 4: and it reels everything back into the end of the day.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: Some of the best DFS players know nothing about the
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 4: sports they're playing, and that's not We're not just trying
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: to predict outcomes when we were predicting ownership, We're predicting
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: inputs and when you win, what's the easiest way.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 5: To get their game theory wise. So, I mean, it's
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 5: just a beautiful game, is DFS. So good luck everybody,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 5: enjoy every single Sunday that we have left.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think so at all. Like this
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: is what I'm saying is again, remember I'm cutting it
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: off there. Almost all Allen lineups will will not stop
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: with two chiefs guys and just run it that way.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying is makes it different, especially in
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: a higher dollar, smaller field, and then those can be
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: big time differences. If Josh Allen out does Mahomes by
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: say eight to ten points, well now it really starts
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: to rack up. But your lineup construction didn't change it
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: all over the two hundred bucks like you gotta in
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: instead of the rams D. You got the Lions D
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: in a great spot too, Like little things like that.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: It's two undred bucks, So I definitely think this, And yeah,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: the chosen Nick comes in and says, I mean, why
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: are we forgetting in the past the Chief Bills game
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: has gone for eighty before with worst players on the roster.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's not like it's gonna be unowned.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's interesting that the more people I
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: hear talking about are even those that are typing the
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: high scores, I caution them to go look at your
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: lineups so they reflect that, because if you think this
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: is a thirty seven to thirty four game, you might
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: want to figure it out on your builds and have
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: your lineups ready because that's not gonna feel good later
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: on when you knew it was going to be high scoring,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: but because you couldn't figure it out, you didn't angle
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: towards any of that. I think it's a little bit
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: better of a spot to figure out this week, and
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: at least worth trying from whatever perspective you choose.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: Hoop final thoughts from you, man, before we get out
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: of here.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: I've been distracting you. Got me think because I actually
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: liked that that called the Josh Allen, Rashi Rice, Travis
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: Kelsey stack. That stuck in my head. I like that
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: because people think that combined ownership for sure is going
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: to be there, not really because no one's playing Josh Allen.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: I mean it makes you a little bit different because
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: people play Rashid, Rice and Kelsey, they're just gonna play
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: my homes Josh Allen. Those guys can still get there
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: and Josh Allen can rush in two touchdowns. So I
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: like that call, and I've been thinking about it for
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: a couple of minutes. So regardless, it's a good slate, though, Man,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: there are so many spots today, so many really really
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: really good spots. Uh not a ton of super chalk
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: like tight ends. Has so many different plays they'll all
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: be held in check like the big time Chalk is
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: definitely at running back, Like those guys are gonna be
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: very popular, and there's different ways to go about it.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: So I like this late it's gonna be high scoring slate,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: I think, and you know, good luck to everyone. Let's
• 1:30:35
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• 1:30:38
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• 1:30:44
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• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: continue on and get some big wins today.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just around it.
• 1:30:51
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• 1:30:53
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• 1:30:57
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