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- 0:02Here's your host, Alex Dearren. Well, as you know, Garrett is
- 0:08on the go, so why not have Terminello's take on the go. I'm
- 0:12on the train about to get my literal ticket punched in March. But lou,
- 0:17wow, what a week so far. Thanks for joining us, Alex,
- 0:22thanks for having me your first take on the regional brackets. I mean,
- 0:26were you disappointed at all? Well, I knew based on the craziness
- 0:32of the conference tournaments, the results, the upsets, what happened last week,
- 0:39you know, with New Mexico, when North Carolina State pulling off the
- 0:43upset and winning the ACC tournament, Duquine getting in, They wouldn't have gotten
- 0:49in if they didn't win the tournament. That cost somebody a spot. Texas
- 0:55A and M getting to the semi finals of the Southeast Conference, Alabama Birmingham
- 1:02winning their Conference USA championship, Drake winning the Missouri Valley. All those successes
- 1:12pushed a lot of those teams that we thought were going to be in out,
- 1:17including Seaton Hall, Oklahoma, Saint John's Pitt. So yeah, I
- 1:26was surprised the way the week went. I knew that it would be a
- 1:30very tough job for the committee to pare down to the sixty eight teams,
- 1:38and remember thirty two automatic bigs. So then let me ask you this.
- 1:44Obviously we've talked about it during it. There's a train right there. We've
- 1:48talked about this before for football, So people forget this is applying to basketball.
- 1:52All this re expansion and expansion and changing in realignment. Does that even
- 1:57complicate things next year for March Madness or I really don't think so, because
- 2:02we've never seen anything like we saw this year. You know, I don't
- 2:07think that it plays into next year, not at all. I really don't.
- 2:16You know, obviously, three Big East teams only you know some controversy
- 2:23there was six Mountain West teams in, but a lot of the bracketologists going
- 2:29into the tournament conference tournaments had six Mountain West teams in. Yes, they
- 2:37did have four or five. Some had six Big East teams. Some had
- 2:43both Providence, Seaton Hall and Saint John's in. But the way the way
- 2:49it played out, it just didn't work out the way. The thing that
- 2:53surprised me when I looked at the board as the teams are being announced,
- 2:59and I think we talked about this softfair on Sunday night when I saw the
- 3:04name of the Virginia Cavaliers come up, that surprised me. They finished the
- 3:08season poorly, and obviously in last night's first four they were absolutely thoroughly embarrassed
- 3:20with their performance against Colorado State, losing sixty seven to forty two. They're
- 3:24always offensively challenged in the coach Tony Bennett's system, and they went fifty nine
- 3:32minutes of real time clock time without without scoring and which is without scoring a
- 3:40field goal, which is amazing, about seventeen and a half minutes of basketball
- 3:46time. They shouldn't have been in. That's the only one that should have
- 3:50been in. And when you look at the NCAA first bore out, the
- 3:55official first boor out, Oklahoma was the first first first or out and Sycamore
- 4:00was the second team. So that really really is frustrating for fans of Sycamore
- 4:05University, that's for sure, and you know that's the way it goes,
- 4:12and it's just very, very frustrating. But again, the committee, the
- 4:17committee had a tough I think one of the toughest years that they've ever had
- 4:23to look at as far as selecting teams. Indiana State Alex number twenty eight
- 4:30in the net. And I don't even know how they formed the net anymore.
- 4:33What the algorithm algorithms are? You know what the what the formula is.
- 4:39It's just crazy. But no team were twenty eight? No, it
- 4:43might be NCAAI. Why not right? Yes? Why not is right?
- 4:53And I'm seriously now I got flack on Twitter for standing by what Brendan Tierney
- 4:57said and others said about Saint John's rejecting NIT. Do you feel like it
- 5:01was childish for them to do that or was it the other in there?
- 5:04Right? Of course? But what did that show to you that they rejected
- 5:08the n While the NIT is not a major tournament anymore, it was when
- 5:16I was young. Remember when I used to go to many n games.
- 5:21There was only twenty four teams that went to the NCAA tournament and sixteen teams
- 5:28went to the niit and they all was games will play at Madison Square Garden.
- 5:34So you would have remember only one team per conference made the NCAA.
- 5:41So you all these that large teams that we see now, they would be
- 5:46playing at the garden if there was nineteen seventy, so you you would see
- 5:50these two seeds, these teams that didn't win that conference at MSG, so
- 5:57the NIT was tremendous tournament. Look, I'm not going to kill Saint John's
- 6:01for not going. I think Saint John's really my opinion, I really don't
- 6:12even went their five game, six game winning streak at the end and their
- 6:15credible performance against the Saint John's. I don't think they did enough all season
- 6:21to get into the NCAAA. They really only beat Creighton at the you know,
- 6:26at the end of the year, but Seton Hall beat Yukon, Seaton
- 6:30Hall beat Marquette, Seton Hall lost a triple overtime game to to Creighton.
- 6:35Seaton Hall played two games without their best player and lost to another bubble team,
- 6:41Providence, when Kadari Richmond was heart Setenhall beat Saint John's twice. Saint
- 6:48John's was outscored twenty eight to nothing against Seaton Hall at Prudential Center, and
- 6:54they blew a nineteen point lead at Ubs. I think see, I don't
- 6:58think Saint John's is any kick coming they were. They weren't even the first
- 7:01four out on the n c A official nca A first four out. I
- 7:05don't know where they ended up now. Should they have played the n I
- 7:09T. I mean, uh, Coach Betino's talking about New York basketball and
- 7:14all this kind of stuff. And I understand why they don't want to play.
- 7:17They disappointed. But anytime you have a chance to play, I think,
- 7:21I think you should play. But I'm not. I'm like I said,
- 7:25I'm not going to kill him for that. No, I know it's
- 7:29Uh, it's touching because you want more exposure as a program and for recruiting
- 7:33purposes. Can't the n I T still be used as popular recruiting, especially
- 7:38with this portal even more every year? One hundred percent correct? And uh,
- 7:45you know it shows pride in the program, pride that you want to
- 7:49that you want to win, that you want to play, that you have
- 7:50pride and putting that uniform on and playing another game. And uh, but
- 7:56you said something about the portal, and now you now we're jumping to something
- 7:59else. There's over five there's over five hundred and fifty players who have entered
- 8:05the portal that opened up on Monday. How could the NCAAA. How could
- 8:11the NCAAA allow the week of their biggest three weeks, the first week of
- 8:16their biggest tournament, after day after selection Sunday allow the portal to open up.
- 8:24What a joke. I mean, this portal is is just out of
- 8:28control. The Nils out of control. It take it takes a little bit
- 8:33of the luster out of the college game. Yes, lou don't you know
- 8:39they can get millions of dollars now they're even professional. I mean, this
- 8:41is that's what it feels like. Anyway, It's well, as coach Patino
- 8:46said before the season began, I'm coaching professionals. That's why when people were
- 8:52ripping him for tearing into his players after they blew that nineteen point lead to
- 8:56Saint John's, I everybody was him. I didn't I knew where he was
- 9:01coming from, and they responded. They played six games, their body chemistry
- 9:07was different. They were a totally different team, and like I said,
- 9:11they gave more than a credible performance against the Yukon Huskies. The idea that
- 9:18these coaches are too tough on the players, well, they're getting paid to
- 9:22play. They should play the game right, right, I mean, to
- 9:24blow in nineteen point lead and get paid to do it makes it even worse
- 9:28at the college level. Alex, You're one hundred percent correct. And if
- 9:33these guys can't take a little criticism, then they might as well just turn
- 9:37in their uniforms. And they responded to the criticism. Can you respond to
- 9:46the criticism? I think the biggest story of the week is Long Beach State
- 9:48take coach. Can you give us a little bit of what happened there?
- 9:50He got fired, but he wins the conference. I mean, can you
- 9:54imagine a crazier March Madness story than that? That is a crazy story.
- 10:00And coach Munson has had a very good career. He was a successful coach
- 10:05at Minnesota. He got fired and I believe in two thousand and five,
- 10:07two thousand and six, and for the last seventeen years he's been the coach
- 10:11at Long Beach State. They finished their season poorly, they lost their last
- 10:16five games in a row. They won, they won the conference Tournament of
- 10:20the Big West and made the automatic bid and he got fired and the last
- 10:26week of the season. And now he's going to the NCAA first round.
- 10:33So that that is that's a wild story. Alex. He's only sixty two
- 10:41years old. You'll probably get another job if he wants it, and so
- 10:46you know that they're going to rehire him. That's my question is that they're
- 10:48going to rehire him after the season. Well, I'm sure they've made their
- 10:52mind that they're probably not going to rehire him. But it's a good story.
- 10:58And like I said, he's been a long time coach and he's been
- 11:00a successful coach. I think I think he was coached here more than one
- 11:05time in the Big West, so that you know, that shows you,
- 11:11like I said, he was a good coach at University of Minnesota. You
- 11:16know. So this is just one of those things that it's just it's interesting.
- 11:24They're not gonna I mean, unless they go on one of these miracle
- 11:28runs that we see in the NCAA every once in a while. He is
- 11:33I don't believe he's going to get rehired. But again, they're and they're
- 11:37playing They're playing Arizona, which is going to be a very very tough out
- 11:43in this tournament. Arizona can get to the to the final four weekend.
- 11:50Can we talk about the five and twelve matchups? Because I was a little
- 11:54disgusted that on air, as your school is, as the school's being announced
- 11:58selected, one of the commentators goes, Althoy'll be knocked out. I mean,
- 12:03what kind of comment is that? Yeah, Well, that was Seth
- 12:05Davis and obviously traditionally the twelve. There's always been an upset most years in
- 12:16the twelve five games. I think maybe just one or two years in the
- 12:22last fifteen that a twelve hasn't beaten a five. And yes, I mean
- 12:31I would not rush to judgment as soon as the teams are put up on
- 12:33the board, Well, a twelve is going to be the five, the
- 12:37twelve is going to be the five. Now looking at the twelve five games
- 12:41here, let's see, let's go to the first twelve five game that we
- 12:46see on the board. Here. You got Grand Canyon, a very good
- 12:52team playing Saint Mary's is a very good team. There are five. I
- 12:58can't I'm not going to be against Saint Mary's on that one, But that
- 13:01would be a twelve five team and it would game, and it wouldn't be
- 13:07that big of an upset if Grand Canyon won. He got UAB in San
- 13:13Diego State. San Diego State, which lost to Yukon in the NCAA Championship
- 13:16game last year. They're not as good as they were last year. I
- 13:20can't I can't see I can't see UAB UAB beating San Diego State on the
- 13:28other side of the bracket. You got. Oh, this is the one
- 13:30that says Davids said is going to happen. James Madison is going to be
- 13:35Wisconsin again. I'm gonna be honest with you, Tall Transparency. I've seen
- 13:39Wisconsin play and they've been up and down. There was they lost four or
- 13:46five games in a row in February, in the late January, early February,
- 13:50so you know they've been up and down. I've Tall transparency. Like
- 13:56I said, I haven't seen James Madison play one second this year, so
- 14:01I can't come on that. I just do you somehow know about McNeice.
- 14:05I don't know how you know about McNeice because everybody in the world found out
- 14:09there was a college named McNeice on Sunday night. Well, I was watching.
- 14:16I was watching that tournament and they have a very athletic team and a
- 14:22lot of people like them, and the team with live bodies, and so
- 14:30they'll be an interesting watch. And yeah, McNeice is an interesting watch.
- 14:37Now another upset that might happen. I haven't seen this team play, but
- 14:43everybody is like on Samford not to be confused with Stanford Samford. Sam Their
- 14:50thirteen seed and they're playing Kansas. Kansas's star god, Kevin McCullough junior,
- 14:58is out for the tournament and Hunter Dickinson, a transfer from Michigan, has
- 15:03been banged up. So a lot of people are turning on on Kansas,
- 15:07which has had an inconsistent year. Obviously, they're a perennial power house in
- 15:13college basketball, so a lot of people are are hooking there. Vets on
- 15:18Sanford, I don't know, that's just another game, another game to look
- 15:22at. Well, there's no doubt that they'll sulf have somehow struggled in the
- 15:28tournament sometimes, isn't that a factor with this Yes he has struggle. Now
- 15:33he's won two championships, but there's other years where you know they have they
- 15:37have fallen short when you didn't think they should fall short. But this year
- 15:41they're banged up. This year that they are that they're legitimately banged up,
- 15:48and losing Kevin mccullis junior for the tournament is a huge, huge blow.
- 15:54By the way, for the listeners, we're going a little rapid fire.
- 15:56That's just because there's so much to cover. And speaking of bangeda local hero
- 16:02now Wagner Seahawks played in one with seven guys in the first four. Now,
- 16:08Lou you probably know him because you've been around Seat Hall forever. Donald
- 16:12Copeland goes in there, changes the program up. I mean, he's there's
- 16:18some Seaton Hall influence in that in that locker room there. Well, yeah,
- 16:22I mean he played for Seaton Hall and he was an assistant coach for
- 16:25six years at Seaton Hall. And he's he's at done a good jump for
- 16:33Wagner this year. And ironically there's a point guard who's who starred at Wagner
- 16:41who is the NCAA championship coach now has a chance to win it again in
- 16:47who was a former Seaton Hall point guard in Danny Hurley. But Wagner's done
- 16:52a nice job. They rallied at the end of the season. They pulled
- 16:55a big upset in the tournament and they won the nc tournament. They played
- 16:59with seven players last night. They slowed the ball down because they they only
- 17:07have seven players. They can't get you know, they can't get into a
- 17:14high scoring game where the floor is open and you can get into foul trouble.
- 17:19So they have to play a very you know, a very controlled game
- 17:22and tomorrow at two forty five when they play number one seed North Carolina alex
- 17:30It's it's a miracle if they could, if they can hang with these North
- 17:37Carolina tar Hills. They're nineteen and a half point well remember though, I
- 17:41mean obviously UNC is number one now, but they did not start out that
- 17:45well and they picked it up. I mean, maybe you can analyze why
- 17:48they had a downspouder to start the year and then picked it back up.
- 17:52You know, it's really it is really strange that they they struggled last year
- 18:00and they got off to a soso start this year. They just put it
- 18:03together and Youbert Davis has done a terrific job. They have a great senior
- 18:12point guard in R. J. Davis who hits forty of his three point
- 18:19shots. Harrison Ingram Junior, who's a transfer. They got him in the
- 18:25portal and he's been another player from him. And they have the twenty five
- 18:30year old kid from Notre Dame Matt May, who had a big game in
- 18:38the when they played Duke a couple of weeks ago. They have a very
- 18:45good team. They can go they can go far. There's a lot of
- 18:49good there's a lot of good teams out there. But again, Wagon's gonna
- 18:55need a miracle. I said, anything we know can happen in the NCAAA
- 18:59tournament. I just can't see this happening. And Wagon's gotta keep the game
- 19:03and around fifty to even have a chance. And I don't know if they
- 19:07if they can do it, and they might get into foul trouble tomorrow and
- 19:11with only seven guys, that's that will be a death now. Uh,
- 19:15you know, going in, going into the tournament, Alex, there's no
- 19:21team better than the University of Connecticut. The defending champions have great chemistry on
- 19:26the court, and they have the best coach in college basketball and Danny Hurley.
- 19:30Right now, I can't remember the last time where I've seen chemistry on
- 19:37the court and with their coach, it's a it's a very strange, unique
- 19:45coach player chemistry dynamic. Now, anybody can win one game in the NCAA
- 19:52Tournament, We've seen that a thousand times. But if this was any kind
- 19:56of series, two out of three, three out of five, nobody's being
- 20:00University of Connecticut. Nobody. They're a deep team. They can beat you
- 20:07any which way. They have stars getting uh, Cam Spencer from Rutgers in
- 20:15the transfer portal. The kid has been remarkable Tristan Newton. I mean he's
- 20:22an efficient playmaker, he can guard, he can score. Stephen Castle,
- 20:30you know, as good a freshman as you can want on a championship team.
- 20:33On the returning championship team, Alex, they got they got it all,
- 20:38Donovan Klingen, Alex Caravan, a power forward who gets lost in the
- 20:45shuffle. They got NBA guys, and they got a coach who's driven.
- 20:52Yeah, sometimes he gets out of control, but he's driven. You are
- 20:56a history guy, Louis. Last time a team went back to back when
- 21:00when was that? It was Flora with with Billy Donovan and uh Jani Noah
- 21:07in two thousand and six, two thousand and seven. This could have Yukon
- 21:15definitely definitely could match that for sure. I mean there's no gonna But you
- 21:23know it's funny. I feel like the pressures not on them in the sense
- 21:26if they're not being talked about as much as what will do do? And
- 21:30I mean maybe you can disagree on that, but Produce seems like they have
- 21:33the most pressure of all these teams because of their failures the year at number
- 21:37one well again, Purdue right now is pretty happy that they're not playing a
- 21:44New Jersey mid majors. The last two years they've been knocked out by a
- 21:51fifteen seeded team. Two years ago in Saint Peter's and last year there aren't
- 21:56that back at that in that same region. I think Saint Peter's in that
- 21:59region aren't Yes they are, they are, but Saint Peter's has a toll
- 22:06task to get by Tennessee. But they are, they are in the same
- 22:11region. But yes, Purdue doesn't want to play New Jersey mid major.
- 22:17That's for sure. Getting knocked out, like I said, by Saint Peter's
- 22:19two years ago and by FDU last year, only the second sixteen seed to
- 22:23be the one seed in the history of the tournament. They have it all.
- 22:29They have a great roster. But is Matt Painter gonna come through as
- 22:34a coach? A lot of pressure on Matt Painter. They have the you
- 22:38know, they have great players right throughout. They got a balanced roster.
- 22:48We'll see. I don't think, I don't think. I don't think that
- 22:52they're gonna win the tournament. I mean, I'll just throw the teams and
- 22:56you know, I'm not big on predictions. Yukon is the clear I like
- 23:02Kentucky, they might be too young because another thing got taken to consideration,
- 23:07what the matchups are the course of all these extra years that these guys got.
- 23:12There are some teams that have twenty three to twenty four year old guys,
- 23:18twenty five year old guys like North Carolina ads in the may Kid,
- 23:22and you have other teams that might be dominated by eighteen and nineteen year old
- 23:27guys. That makes a difference, the difference between maturing mentally and physically when
- 23:33you're nineteen years old and you're twenty three to twenty four years old. That's
- 23:37a big gap. So you got to watch that as you're looking at these
- 23:40matchups. Houston plays great defense. They're one seed. Kelvin Sampson's an excellent
- 23:48coach, but they go through these offensive droughts like they did against Iowa State,
- 23:56who embarrassed them in the Big twelve championship game. And look out for
- 24:00Iowa State. Iowa State has a very, very formidable team. There were
- 24:07two seed and that yeh that that could be a roadblock for for Connecticut in
- 24:18that in that region. But Connecticut is going to play this week at at
- 24:22Brooklyn, so there will be a lot of Connecticut fans there. Probably half
- 24:30the building will be for Connecticut and then the Eastern Regionals at Boston. Uh
- 24:34that I was gonna say Boston Garden at tv UH Center in Boston. So,
- 24:42uh, it's it's laid out for It's laid out for Yukon. In
- 24:48my opinion, to get to the final four. I was moving back to
- 24:51the Big East the biggest thing they could do for that program. I feel
- 24:53like it's energized them again, Alex if they if they were if they were
- 24:59still in the American Athletic Conference, they weren't the one that they want to
- 25:03have won the championship last year and they wouldn't be going to repeat this year.
- 25:10And I'm not even sure if coach Earley would still be there. I
- 25:15don't even know, if you want to know the truth, I don't even
- 25:17know why the Big East let it back in. Yes, it was good
- 25:19for the Big East to let a prestigious program like Connecticut back into the conference,
- 25:25but Connecticut benefited more by coming to the Big East than the Big East
- 25:30bringing in Connecticut. Connecticut benefited more with the ACC now expanding, right,
- 25:42do you see every Syracuse wind about out. I know we're seeing Clemson bow
- 25:47out of the ACC. Could more teams follow? Well, Connecticut wants to,
- 25:52I mean, Clemson wants to investigate go into another conference, but the
- 25:59the IT fees to come out of the ACC a pretty ironclad. And you've
- 26:04got to stay to twenty thirty six to get your TV money. Now.
- 26:10I don't know how the judges are going to look at that. Florida State
- 26:12has already done the same as Clemson did the other day. I don't know
- 26:18what's going to happen to the ACC. But Syracuse will not be back in
- 26:25the Big East, that's for sure, because a foot the Big East doesn't
- 26:30want to get back into the football business. I don't believe. Yes,
- 26:33they made an exception with with Yukon, but you know that that that's that's
- 26:41a rarity. They're not They're not going back to where they were, where
- 26:44they were a football and basketball conference. But Lou and I know we're going
- 26:48on history lane right here. Those are the best years for the Big East
- 26:52football championships. You had excitement around the conference for both seasons. I mean,
- 26:59can you agree with yeah, you know, let's look at basketball Syracuse.
- 27:02First, Yukon the Classic at the Garden. You weren't there for that,
- 27:04were you? You mean the six over? Was that the six overtime?
- 27:07Yes, I watched it. I wasn't there. I was not there
- 27:11for that. But I think I don't I don't think, uh yeah,
- 27:15those those are great days. But I mean last week I didn't think that
- 27:22was that something was lacking watching the Big East Tournament, I didn't think it
- 27:29was lacking. Well before Yukon returned to the conference, when you had Villanova,
- 27:33and uh during when Seaton Hall beat Villanova for the in the championship game
- 27:40with Isaiah Whitehead. You know, I mean, you might want to reminisce
- 27:45on that, but I think I think the Big East it's fine just being
- 27:48a basketball conference. The other thing is you got a public you got a
- 27:52state school like Yukon, and the rest of the teams, the rest of
- 27:56the universities and college is in the Big East are private. That gives you
- 28:02kind of huge advantage. Well, let me ask you about this, because
- 28:07you know, the Big East has issued a statement on this. I mean,
- 28:11look, only three teams going is a disappointment, and I think val
- 28:17Ackerman was very, very diplomatic in his response, But you were surprised the
- 28:22biggest commissioner actually issued a response. I was, I was surprised. I
- 28:26just figured, Okay, you know, you take the high road. One
- 28:30of those years, that probably not going to happen again for a while.
- 28:33You're not going to see that many kind of upsets. But again, you
- 28:37might see those kind of upsets because there's so much parity in college basketball and
- 28:41there's so much changeable rosters from year to year. You're recruiting every year.
- 28:47Now you're not going to have a player for three years, four years,
- 28:52two years, so it's different. I was. I think she made she
- 28:57made the statement because you know, she just had to because obviously there was
- 29:06a lot of up people. But I don't think she's she's she was looking
- 29:10to to start any kind of controversy. She made the statement. She probably
- 29:14will not make any further statements on what happened. Well, an interesting thing
- 29:21for me is she wasn't really pointing fingers at the NCAA in the sense of
- 29:25I guess she was a lot, but she was more saying, we're going
- 29:26to restructure the schedule. Now you know the schedule you follow these teams schedules.
- 29:32Was it a particular bad non comference schedule for some of these programs or
- 29:36what were you seeing there? Well, you know some of these some of
- 29:42these teams don't play any teams from other conferences that could help them down the
- 29:49road in their net. I mean, all of year played Baylor, They
- 29:53they played Rutgers, they played Iowa, they played USC, and I mean
- 30:00while USC was finished under five hundred, USC beat Arizona the last week of
- 30:06the season, and Arizona is a two seed. So if Seaton Hall had
- 30:12had beaten USC, that might have got them in that that that that's another
- 30:18uh, your points go up, well when they put all those that formula
- 30:23through the computer. Same thing with Iowa, which is a you know which
- 30:26is which is an N I T but still a big ten team. Seenhall
- 30:32lost all those games they lost to Baylor. Baylor is a team that can
- 30:34go far in the tournament. So Seen Hall played, you know, play
- 30:40its usual schedule. I forget. I mean, I think Saint John's uh,
- 30:45I don't remember their their their preseason schedule as well. But yeah,
- 30:51you got to do it, you got Unfortunately, that's one thing uh,
- 30:55Kentucky always does, I mean they come out and they're playing Ducal like the
- 30:59second game of the year. And usually John cal Powry has eight new guys
- 31:03on a team and he's playing a Duke or a Kansas or Michigan State.
- 31:08You gotta you gotta do that. You might lose. Uh. You gotta
- 31:12play like Gonzaga plays. You know, all those teams Gonzaga and the milliare
- 31:18of their conference schedule, played at Kentucky and they beat Kentucky and they went
- 31:26for a bubble team. Uh uh, and they got into a five and
- 31:30they got a five seat. The last couple of weeks they rose from the
- 31:33from being a bubble team to being a solid tournament team. They did beat
- 31:40Saint Mary's for Saint Mary's only conference loss. You gotta do that, Alex.
- 31:45You can't be playing all the cupcakes of the world, as they say,
- 31:48no, you can't. I always thought Kevin Willer did a good job
- 31:52of scheduling at the Big Hall, and and she's, you know, just
- 31:56still getting the swing of things there. They just what I thought Seahole schedule
- 32:00was fine. This year I did steal it, and then, of course,
- 32:06you know, I was freaking out on you. Patino's losing all of
- 32:07a sudden and you're like, give it time. And I know you got
- 32:12to give it time and give him some recruiting space and seeing what happens.
- 32:15But you know, with Patino, he just doesn't seem interested in this whole
- 32:22money game in this transfer portal, Like he just doesn't seem genuinely interested in
- 32:25coaching college basketball. That's a problem. Group. Oh, I disagree.
- 32:30I disagree. He he wants to coach, as he said, as much
- 32:36as ever. And uh, the only guy that he brought back from from
- 32:43last year, saying John Steam or Soriano, and he had ten new guys
- 32:49and they got off to a good start, but then they lost Stay out
- 32:52of Ten. That's what caused him the tournament. They lost Stay out of
- 32:54Ten. And know he he wants to make he wants to bring Saint John's
- 33:05back. This is his last coaching job. He's seventy one years old.
- 33:08You know, he loves coaching. He loves coaching in the Big East.
- 33:13Remember he was at the coach of Province when they went to the Final four
- 33:16back in nineteen eighty seven. He did a spectacular job getting that team to
- 33:20the final four. He loves coaching in the garden. You know, he's
- 33:29he's all in. I just don't know why he is out about how he
- 33:35doesn't enjoy coaching at Saint John's. I don't know if that's a ploy what
- 33:37he says or what. Well, when they grew that nineteen point lead,
- 33:42he said that wasn't enjoyable and he and that was again to get that get
- 33:45that point across to his players, because then he then he went off on
- 33:49his players, and he went off on the facilities. And there was a
- 33:52method to his madness. If you want to be big time in the Big
- 33:57East, which you know is a is a Power five conference, you know,
- 34:05you can't only have your toe in the water. You gotta be you
- 34:09gotta throw your whole body in and uh and swim. You can't be He
- 34:15it's not get out of the Big East and join another conference that where the
- 34:21pressure is not great. And Rick Patino doesn't want that. He wants Saint
- 34:27John's to go to the Final four on his watch before he retires. I
- 34:35think that's why he originally took the job, and I know that's why I
- 34:37took the job, and I believe it him. It just is it a
- 34:39little dishearten to hear in some of the other interviews I've seen him just say,
- 34:44you know that the college basketball with this guy going to this college because
- 34:49there's money. It just it is right. He's right, but it's a
- 34:53bit depressing to know that the game has become this. I guess, yeah,
- 34:57well, that's that's not on him, that's what the game has become.
- 35:01It is. It's depressing for me as a long time college basketball fan.
- 35:07I hate the way the game is now. Alex, how could how
- 35:12many guys do we see They've been at three colleges in six years? I
- 35:16mean really, well, let me ask you this. You're always about seeing
- 35:22where the future of the of these you know leagues go. In the NFL,
- 35:25with the possibly eighteenth game that actually might actually have happened, you're predicting
- 35:30that to happen. Who had the NCAA. What radicalization do you see happening
- 35:34there that we haven't already seen. I mean, they've already done a lot.
- 35:37I mean the season now starts. Oh, besides the realignment, I
- 35:42guess is there any more extension of I know the college playoff is expanding,
- 35:45but do you see this tournament becoming like a two or three game series.
- 35:50No, right, that cannot I don't see that. I know there's been
- 35:53talk about expanding the NCAA Tournament to seventy two teams to eighty team. I
- 36:00mean, as you can go back twenty years and Billy Packer, the late
- 36:04Billy Packer, said every team should be in the tournament. And I think
- 36:07there was like three hundred and thirty teams at playing Division one. Then I
- 36:12think there's three hundred and fifty four now and he said it would only be
- 36:15two more games, but everybody would be in. So, first of all,
- 36:20the regular season doesn't mean anything. And I think sixty four sixty eight
- 36:28like they have now or is a good number. Some people want to push
- 36:31it up to seventy two. I saw coach Cali Parry, I guess yesterday
- 36:38in the press conference and maybe this morning, said he doesn't he's totally against
- 36:44expansion of the of the NCAA Tournament. Brett Yormark, commissioner A Big twelve,
- 36:53kind of leans towards expanding the NCAAA Tournament. The coach of North Carolina
- 37:00State keats he wants the tournament expanded. The other thing, Alex is I
- 37:09don't know. If you need the conference tournaments anymore, I really don't if
- 37:13you're going to expand it. I don't even know if you needed at sixty
- 37:16eight. But if you're going to expand the NCAA tournament, do you really
- 37:21need the conference tournaments? Yeah, it's a money maker. It's good for
- 37:24the networks, for Fox and for ESPN and for CBS, But really do
- 37:32you really need them? I mean, if you go to ninety six teams,
- 37:37which some some people want to go to, do you really need conference
- 37:42tournaments? No? But that would that would just send a bad message,
- 37:50you know, Like everybody at the Ultimate Participation Trophy, I guess you'd say,
- 37:53right that, that's right, that's that's that's right. It's a participation
- 38:00trophy. Well, loud, thank you for participating your trophies in the mail,
- 38:06and we will do this again as the co keep something. I know
- 38:14you have some contacts that you might want to bring on now the tournament would
- 38:17love to have that, but always love talking to you. Is the anything
- 38:21else about this tournament you want to talk about before we wrap up? No
- 38:24matter how controversial it is with the NIL or with the transfer portal, or
- 38:31with the selections made by the committee that put teams in this tournament, in
- 38:37the at large portion of the tournament. Come come tomorrow at twelve o'clock when
- 38:44those games start, We're going to be in front of our television sets and
- 38:46we're gonna be watching till twelve o'clock midnight Tomorrow and Friday and throughout the next
- 38:52three weeks. There's gonna be great games. There's going to somebody's gonna make
- 38:57themselves a hero. Guys that we had ever heard of, a team that
- 39:00we may not never heard of. But that's what makes these three weeks fun
- 39:07and exciting. But again, all I know is to beat the University of
- 39:12Connecticut, somebody's going to have to make a herculean effort. And good thing
- 39:15it's only a one and done because I don't think anybody in this tournament could
- 39:21be Connecticut two out of three. Well, how about this. I want
- 39:23to ask you this because everybody feels like they want to sneak away from work
- 39:28to go to the bar. And you're not a bar guy, but did
- 39:31you ever, you know, maybe play hooky a little bit to see the
- 39:35first day of the tournament. Everybody does. It feels like alex as you
- 39:40know me long enough, I'll never tell a lie. Yes, I was
- 39:45at the first round games twice at Nasal Coliseum and I played hooky from work.
- 39:53One of them was on Saint Patrick's date, and one time at the
- 39:58Meadowlands and so yeah, yeah I played hooky. Well, I'll tell you.
- 40:06My dad tells me the story. He went all the way to Washington,
- 40:08Seattle, Washington to see the Pirates take them. I wasn't it Michigan.
- 40:15Yeah, they got Michigan. I mean, how cool of a story
- 40:17is that that he went all over to Seattle. Well, I also went
- 40:22all the way to Seattle to see a nineteen eighty nine wins. The Pirates
- 40:27got to the final four and they played it Duke in the National semifinal.
- 40:31They were down twenty five to eight, and I said, oh my god,
- 40:37and Seaton Hall just went crazy after that. They were they went down,
- 40:42they were down seventeen and they won by seventeen. And then they lost
- 40:46the memorable overtime game two nights later, eighty to seventy nine the Michigan,
- 40:52a game that they should have won in a game that was that was a
- 40:54site on a controversial call by John Clogherty on the path I saw off from
- 41:00Ramel Robinson who he called a foul on and Ramel Robinson hit the two free
- 41:06throws and seen all lost eighty to seventy nine. And that that was a
- 41:10that was a heartbreak. And then they avenged that in a way a few
- 41:15years ago on a nine time of the answer that that was really a healing
- 41:19moment that went against Michigan up in Ann Arbor. Yeah it was, but
- 41:22I would still have taken the April third, nineteen eighty nine win, and
- 41:27I would have lost that game a couple of years ago if I could have,
- 41:30I could have switched. But yeah, it could have been on that
- 41:32court. I know, Louis, Well, this has been fun and always
- 41:37loved going down memory lane that we went to the coliseum a couple of times.
- 41:43Kentucky had won one of the regionals in NASA at the Coliseum and they
- 41:49had me at front court with them with the cheer team when I was a
- 41:52little kid. So I remember that very well. I took home one of
- 41:53the k you know, the King and Kentucky. And then and then I
- 41:59saw you counch ten years ago. I mean we're talking ten years ago in
- 42:01these regionals when you knew Kevin Ollie had something special and they went all the
- 42:07way to win the tournament ten years ago. So and beware of Kentucky this
- 42:13year. They have a lot of talent and they if they put all together,
- 42:19and they have Reed Shepherd, a fantastic freshman player. The kid is
- 42:22just fantastic, and they have a deep team. I mean, if they
- 42:29put it all together, they just might be too young. Now, Lou,
- 42:31you know one thing before we sign out here is the Deon Sanders effect.
- 42:37I mean not that that influences the you know, the committee here,
- 42:39but Colorado making it what a boon for that beyond Deon Sanders, especially if
- 42:47you know they're in the big tournament this week. Well, I think obviously
- 42:52because of Deon Sanders notoriety, the team after they three and oh start obviously,
- 43:00uh didn't make any bowl games and as we said, it's forty four
- 43:02of them, so they were they would they end up five and six.
- 43:06But yes, he has he had boosted the brand of the University of Colorado
- 43:13athletic department and Colorado basketball playing in the first for tonight, you know,
- 43:20with a late season tournament push got in. They were very very much on
- 43:25the bubble of even further down. But if they win tonight, you know
- 43:31they'll they'll move on. But I heard an interview with Dion the other day
- 43:37and he is gung ho on moving to the Big Twelve conference next year,
- 43:42and he said it's going to be tremendous for the University of Colorado in both
- 43:46football and in basketball. And he just loves what they're doing in the Big
- 43:52Twelve, loves the all the people in the front in the in the Big
- 43:58Twelve office to commit your mark and you know we'll see. I mean,
- 44:04the Big twelve is the best basketball conference in the country right now, and
- 44:07they'll be adding Arizona, which is a great basketball school. Oregon has traditionally
- 44:14been a tremendous basketball school. And if you get UCLA and USC back in
- 44:20the Big Ten, the Pac twelve is going to help those two conferences.
- 44:27So you know, you got Oregon, Washington, USC Ucla in the Big
- 44:34twelve. You got Colorado and Utah and Arizona and Arizona State in the Big
- 44:42twelve. So the Big Twelve and the Big Ten are going to reap the
- 44:45benefits of of the demise of the Pac twelve, which to me, Alex
- 44:52is sinful. There's no way the PAC twelve should have fallen apart, and
- 44:58that's the fault of PAC twelve, the PAC twelfth commissioner, and it's it's
- 45:06just shameful that the league that's been together for over one hundred years is no
- 45:09more. We'll have to see how it all shapes up. Sixty four teams
- 45:14and it all begins. It's March is becoming my second favorite month because of
- 45:19NFL free agency, because of spring training coming back, because of and of
- 45:22course, my first favorite month is always going to be October. You know
- 45:24that, Lily, So March is up there though March. March is a
- 45:29second favorite month for me. So there you go. Sounds good. I
- 45:32love March, all these sports colliding at the same time. Give me more
- 45:37sports. There you go. Well, lou, we got to cover a
- 45:42lot more stuff next week, but for now, enjoy the round of sixty
- 45:45four. We'll talk to you soon. Yes, you too, alex Thanks
- 45:47for having me. Always a pleasure to talk sports with the great Alexander