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- 0:02It's 1982 and you feel like going out. You hop
- 0:05in your car and head down to Wild Bills off Union
- 0:08Avenue in Bakersfield, California, home of the
- 0:11greatest country music that ever was. At Wild
- 0:13Bills, they have all three 45s of Sonny Anglin
- 0:17in the jukebox. You walk inside and put a quarter
- 0:20in the jukebox and pick your favorite song, Time
- 0:24to Shoot Some Pool. There's a pool game away
- 0:44at the end of my run. I'm a truck driving, pool
- 0:52shooting, son of a gun. You're listening to the
- 1:01San Joaquin Sound Podcast, the podcast about
- 1:04music in Bakersfield and the surrounding valley.
- 1:06For this episode... I interviewed local country
- 1:10music legend Sonny Anglin. He's been a mainstay
- 1:13in the Bakersfield country scene for over 50
- 1:15years. At age 87, he still sings multiple nights
- 1:20a week around town. He's played all the classic
- 1:23spots, like the Blackboard, Texas Barrelhouse,
- 1:26and Trouts. He's recorded multiple songs, toured
- 1:29the country, and even headlined a show at the
- 1:32Sahara in Las Vegas. Let's talk about growing
- 1:49up in Bakersfield. You were born and raised here,
- 1:51right? Yeah. My folks come here from Oklahoma,
- 1:54and I was living up on the side of the road about
- 1:57early March on 99 Highway, sleeping out, and
- 2:00my mama had the panes with me. They brought me
- 2:03to Kern General. May the 21st, 1938. I've been
- 2:07around for a couple weeks here in the county.
- 2:10So growing up, your parents were Benjamin and
- 2:12Gertrude, right? Yeah. What type of music did
- 2:15they listen to? Country. My dad was an avid cousin
- 2:21of Herb Henson and the Trading Post gang. We
- 2:23didn't turn the channel during the day because
- 2:26when the cousin of Herb and the Trading Post
- 2:28come on... If there's no red rider or what, you
- 2:31had to watch the trading post. That was his rules.
- 2:35Don't turn the channel on. And if you haven't
- 2:38heard of Cousin Herb's trading post, that was
- 2:40a huge country TV show that had a lot of country
- 2:43stars on. From 53 to 63. Yeah. He brought them
- 2:47all in here. He had wrestlers on, singers, and
- 2:50name it. Cousin Herb was the man. That really
- 2:54influenced your taste, huh? Because your dad
- 2:57loved country music? My most avid fan was my
- 3:00mama. She'd get me up and singing in church,
- 3:03and she put me in drama classes at Mountain View
- 3:07School. In seventh, eighth grade, she made sure
- 3:11I got there. She had a car she could drive, and
- 3:13they'd take me to rehearsals and whatnot. So
- 3:16actually, she got me ready for the States when
- 3:19I was a kid. That's awesome. I knew someday I
- 3:22was going to be doing this, you know. Were there
- 3:24musicians in Bakersfield that you looked up to
- 3:27as well? Well, I probably looked up to my dad's
- 3:30brothers, my Uncle John and Uncle Fred. When
- 3:33they'd come to our house, they was both pickers.
- 3:36They played guitar and fiddle and what have you.
- 3:39So they would do all the entertaining. Wow. Instead
- 3:43of playing hide -and -go -seek with my cousins,
- 3:46I'd say, hey, I'm not playing on hide -and -go
- 3:48-seek. I'm going to listen to the music. So I'd
- 3:51get around the edge of the house and I'd watch
- 3:53them. I had one uncle that wanted us to listen
- 3:55to the other one. He wanted the kids to go play.
- 3:58But my Uncle Fred was always saying, I'd let
- 4:01them listen to it. They might be pickers too.
- 4:05So I kind of catered to my Uncle Fred. That's
- 4:09cool. So did you start playing the guitar? I
- 4:13was about 15. I started Mickey Mousing with it.
- 4:18Yeah. Yeah, I said about 15, I started strumming.
- 4:21Do you remember what type of guitar you had?
- 4:24I had an old Epiphone when I first started playing,
- 4:27yeah. I'd say down in the Hawaiian Guards area
- 4:30when I started out, a Lady Lomi, an old Epiphone.
- 4:35So it was a hollow body one? Yeah. With the F
- 4:37-holes? Yeah. Nice. That was my first instrument
- 4:41was lent to me from a lady from Weed Patch area.
- 4:47that I knew in Hawaiian gardens, and so she let
- 4:50me have a guitar to play. That's great. Musicians,
- 4:58Dale Bennett, I don't know if you've heard of
- 5:00Dale Bennett. No, I'm not sure. He was quite
- 5:03a guy in the Los Angeles area. He is in Oklahoma
- 5:06City now. Dale Bennett would call me up and get
- 5:11me up to sing there at the old Red Barrel in
- 5:14the day, and that's where they all came. I seen
- 5:17Johnny Cash on butcher paper in front of the
- 5:21Red Barrel. Wow. Coming soon. And all of them
- 5:26came to the Red Barrel. The guy that I grew up
- 5:29on, I loved to hear him sing and watch him. He'd
- 5:32cup his ear, and that was Winn Stewart. He was
- 5:35my first star that I really idolized. I'd say
- 5:39it was Winn. Do you remember the first time you
- 5:42sang at a concert, like a country concert somewhere?
- 5:47Oh, Lord have mercy. To do a concert, I say,
- 5:52after I cut my first record, Mrs. Olsen. Okay,
- 5:58for Faber, right? Yeah, yeah, Faber Records.
- 6:021972. And I went to KMOR in Murray, Utah, took
- 6:07me to number one on their station. Wow. And I
- 6:11flew up there and had done a show that was up
- 6:17there on the wall. That was my first big gig,
- 6:21I'd say. Saratoga? Yeah, Saratoga Springs out
- 6:26of Salt Lake City. Wow. That was my first big
- 6:31gig, I'd say. That's cool. Yeah. So talk to me
- 6:36about recording that 45. It had Mrs. Olsen on
- 6:40the A side, Today's Tomorrow Yesterday on the
- 6:43B side. Where'd you record it at? I recorded
- 6:46those in Los Angeles with Ed McNeely, old boy
- 6:51from Utah. He was with Gene Autry. He left Gene's
- 6:55label to produce me. I'd say he gave me my first
- 7:00big break. That's awesome. When Faber signed
- 7:02me, I wanted to get myself out there. Today's
- 7:06Tomorrow's Yesterday is a song later on, years
- 7:09later here in Bakersfield, that got me into the
- 7:11Bakersfield sound, was Today's Tomorrow's Yesterday.
- 7:15When I was researching, I was looking in the
- 7:18archives of Billboard magazine, and I found an
- 7:22ad for Mrs. Olsen with your face on it right
- 7:25here at the bottom. I'll hand it to you. Oh,
- 7:28Lord. Boy, that brings back some memories. This
- 7:31was out of Billboard, huh? Yeah. Yeah. They were
- 7:36advertising your record in a lot of magazines,
- 7:38and Billboard was one. You got reviewed in Billboard,
- 7:41too. Yeah, right below Dolly and Porter Wagner.
- 7:46Boy, if I ain't lucky. I hadn't seen this in
- 7:50a long time. Growing up, I'd stay in that area
- 7:56down there. That's what got me involved in getting
- 8:00started into the arts was the Red Barrel. And
- 8:06I'd go to Evelyn's Panama Room in Long Beach.
- 8:09I'd go over there and sing with some of them
- 8:13people. And then I'd go down to the... Hollywood
- 8:15on the Pike, which was about a few blocks down.
- 8:18That's when the Pike was going in them days.
- 8:21But they had a club down at Hollywood on the
- 8:23Pike. It was a club. And you had to go up the
- 8:26back staircase. Behind the bar was the stage.
- 8:31And I'd go over there to Cindy Carson. She'd
- 8:35get me up and sing some songs. And as it goes,
- 8:39when you're coming up, you have people that really
- 8:43help you along the trail. That's great. Yeah.
- 8:47They had a place there called Clown out on Nile
- 8:51Street, East Bakersfield. They wore out five
- 8:54records on that jukebox over there on Mrs. Olsen.
- 8:58So they played that thing off the wall out there.
- 9:00That's before I had really much recognition at
- 9:03all. So that was the beginning of it all, I'd
- 9:05say, was Mrs. Olsen. That's cool. But after I'd
- 9:09done Mrs. Olsen, everybody thought I had a hit.
- 9:11And Hawaiian guards, they go in them clubs and
- 9:14they say, hey, son, he's here. That's awesome.
- 9:18I also read in 1972 you went all the way to Arkansas
- 9:23to the Anglin Mooney Williams family reunion.
- 9:27I sure did. And you saw some other Anglins that
- 9:31play music too, the Anglin brothers or something
- 9:33like that, right? Well, Jim and Jack Anglin,
- 9:36you know, they were writers in Nashville. They
- 9:39was Tennessee Anglins. My dad's Ken Folk. My
- 9:44dad was cousins to, you ever heard of Ralph Mooney?
- 9:48Yeah. Wrote Crazy Arms and all. Yeah, Pedal Steel.
- 9:50He was a steel player for Wayland for years.
- 9:52But we was related. Oh, wow, that's cool. Yeah,
- 9:56I was related. He played with Merle for a bit
- 9:58too, right? Ralph Mooney, sure did. He played
- 10:00with a bunch of them. He was probably the inventor
- 10:02of Pedal Steel. He was great. That's cool. What
- 10:06other places did you tour to? All of them days,
- 10:10really, so many of them I can't remember. So
- 10:15many bands since my later stuff, you know, was
- 10:19here in Bakersfield. I found this ad in the Bakersfield
- 10:23Californian, and it says, Terry's Highland Inn,
- 10:27one night only. Sonny Anglin and the Golden State
- 10:31Playboys. So you must have been with a band then,
- 10:35huh? Oh, yeah. Womack, Warren Purcell. I toured
- 10:42with Warren. My first job on the road was with
- 10:45Warren Purcell. You know, he played for Wayne
- 10:47Stewart. Cool. And he wrote a song, Hands Spoon
- 10:51the Clock, in the A -side. And I went on tour
- 10:56with Warren. We went all the way to Virginia,
- 10:58Minnesota, and through Colorado, Dakotas. Played
- 11:02a lot of honky -tonk stuff. Probably the toughest
- 11:05gig I ever had was in a club in a... in the stockyards
- 11:10there at Sioux Falls, South Dakota, and them
- 11:13cowboys wanted to fight all night. I don't know
- 11:15if my singing was bad, what made them to sing
- 11:18and fight, but on the break, they didn't make
- 11:21up. And these guys, I'm talking about fist fighting.
- 11:26And I was back in the corner thinking, am I going
- 11:29to get out here alive or not? I had some gigs
- 11:33that I wondered about, but that's part of it.
- 11:36Doing your apprenticeship. Yeah. Paying your
- 11:40dues. Paying your dues. You said it right there.
- 11:43That's the main word. Paying dues. That's what
- 11:46it's all about until you get to a certain level.
- 11:49I guess I reached that one here in Bakersfield
- 11:51due to people that love me. I know the night
- 11:56that I went up and got my, put into the Bakersfield
- 11:59Sound at Buck Orange's Crystal Palace, where
- 12:03they put me in, and it was today's, tomorrow's,
- 12:06yesterday. Got me into the sound. That's cool.
- 12:10Ate that trip. Yeah. And you helped write that
- 12:13song, right? Oh, yeah. You and Jerry Osborne.
- 12:17Me and Jerry Osborne, a buddy of mine from Muses
- 12:20Mill, Kentucky. When Jerry Reed passed. Jerry
- 12:23Osborne was playing bass for him. Wow. My first
- 12:27check I got from BMI, I still got it. I never
- 12:31did cash it. I think it was about $7 or something.
- 12:36That's cool, though. I still got it, yeah. So
- 12:39did you play at some of the honky -tonks in town,
- 12:42like the Blackboard? I played them all. What
- 12:45was your favorite one to play at? My favorite
- 12:47one, I'd say, was probably when I got up at the
- 12:51Blackboard. The first time. How was that? Well,
- 12:54Ted Forrest called me up out of the audience
- 12:56and scared to death. Man, I got up there and
- 12:59laid some songs. I don't even remember what I
- 13:02sung, but had a good reception from the crowd
- 13:05and shook all the way back to my seat. Scared
- 13:11to death. Certain things back in them days bothered
- 13:13me. I've overcome it since. I've been doing stage
- 13:18stuff for the last 40 years without anything
- 13:21but root beer. and made a whole lot better decisions
- 13:24than I did when I was on Jack Daniels. Yeah,
- 13:29old Jack lost out. You know, alcohol ain't the
- 13:32best thing for a man when you can't control it.
- 13:35It's all right. Nothing wrong with drinking because
- 13:37I'm still around it now. You know, I go out to
- 13:40Ethel's and here or yonder in town and Rustic
- 13:44Rail and get up. I wish to work to deal with
- 13:47Norman. over here at his 92nd birthday. Yeah,
- 13:51I was there. That was a great one. Yeah, that's
- 13:54where I run into you again. Yeah, I was over
- 13:56there. What memories I have with Norman Hamlet,
- 14:00you know. He was such a nice guy when he was
- 14:03with Merle. When Merle would come to New Orleans,
- 14:07my sister was in the show business, and she had
- 14:11a CNS talent out of New Orleans. My oldest sister.
- 14:17And every time that they'd come to town, Norman
- 14:20would call them, call her up and tell her, come
- 14:23over here and get some tickets. We're coming
- 14:25into town, won't you? And he would always give,
- 14:28Merle would give tickets to my sister. So they'd
- 14:32come to the show. It was good memories with Norman,
- 14:38yeah. So you're in Bakersfield in the 70s. playing
- 14:44the honky tonks, doing some touring. And then
- 14:47let's talk about your next record that comes
- 14:50out. I had Letter Dance. Oh, actually, yeah.
- 14:54I had Letter Dance. Buddy Mize had a label, and
- 14:57Buddy Mize, the writer. Was he related to the
- 14:59other Mize? Yeah, it was Billy's younger brother.
- 15:03Oh, cool. He's the founder of the Nashville Songwriter
- 15:06Association. One of him and Eddie Miller started
- 15:09the NSA in Nashville. Oh, yeah, on Cowboy Hat
- 15:14Records. And Cowboy Hat is what I recorded. Me
- 15:18and Bobby Durham, I'm not a braggart, but me
- 15:20and Bobby Durham's the only artists that ever
- 15:23recorded on Buddy's label, the Cowboy Hat Records.
- 15:26Wow. And I had to let her dance, and the B -side
- 15:30was Hanging On, the Vern Godson song that Buddy,
- 15:34he wrote. Hanging On, him and Ira Allen were
- 15:38writers on Hanging On. That's cool. I couldn't
- 15:42find that one. I could only find the A side.
- 15:44Someone posted it online on YouTube, but I never
- 15:48could find the B side, so that's cool. I'll have
- 15:50to try to track it down. How you know it was
- 15:51the B side on that one, yeah. So how did that
- 15:55I Had to Let Her Dance do? How did that record
- 15:58do? Still playing out there somewhere. If somebody
- 16:02had told me they'd seen it or listened to it.
- 16:05Good song. I done it today here at the Rasmussen
- 16:09Senior Citizens. I went over there and sat in
- 16:11today with Country George and his band, and we
- 16:16done hanging on today. That's awesome. Yeah.
- 16:21All right, so let's talk about your third record
- 16:24then, right there. I'm a truck driver and pool
- 16:27shooting son of a gun. We sing Barn to Lose.
- 16:31which I'm having a whole lot of blessings over
- 16:35now. Soda Crackers, a group out of Bakersfield,
- 16:38they just done it on their album. It's on the
- 16:41A -side. It's the third song. And they've done
- 16:46I'm a Truck Driving, Pull Shooting, Son of a
- 16:48Gun. And Devin Brinsfield, another upcoming singer
- 16:52here, he's cut it. I've had several people cutting
- 16:58that song. But a little lady here called Shantice
- 17:02Marie, she done Sing Born to Lose. And that's
- 17:05the first female artist to do any of my songs
- 17:09was Shantice. And she's done had a lot of luck
- 17:14with that song here in Bakersfield. That's so
- 17:16great. I'm a truck driving, pool shooting son
- 17:19of a gun is kind of like your signature song,
- 17:22I think. Do you? I think so. I saw your shirt.
- 17:28In the Kern County Museum. Okay. And it has a
- 17:32pool table on the back. You know, my wife done
- 17:37all that work. She nudied that thing out for
- 17:39my one -nighter at Sahara in Las Vegas. Wow,
- 17:43that's awesome. She put that together for me
- 17:46that they've got over there. I had no idea when
- 17:49I signed it off to them that it would be out
- 17:51there now. I figured after I was long gone, then
- 17:55they'd probably bring some of my stuff out. But
- 17:57I got blessed again. Got it over there for people
- 18:03to see now. Yeah, it's right there in the glass
- 18:06case at the Bakersfield Sound Exhibit at the
- 18:08Kern County Museum. With Ronnie Sessions. Yeah.
- 18:11Me and Ronnie shared that corner booth down there,
- 18:14yeah. And look for the trout sign, and that's
- 18:18where the exhibit is. Yeah, yeah. And I have
- 18:21heard a lot of people say that you're a sharp
- 18:23dresser. Well, thank you. I'm glad to hear that.
- 18:29That makes me feel good. Oh, I had a random question
- 18:33about earlier. I was looking in the copyright.
- 18:38The Copyright Library. And it said that there
- 18:41was a song called Rack Em Up written by Sonny
- 18:44Englund and Bobby Cunningham. What song is that?
- 18:48It was Rack Em Up. That's the song that caused
- 18:51Faber to sign me. And they never did cut it.
- 18:55They put Mrs. Olsen out instead. But that's how
- 19:00I got on there. They heard, my producer heard
- 19:03me before he signed me. I sung it for him, and
- 19:08when he was going to cut it, we never did really
- 19:11get around to cutting and racking them up. I
- 19:13have several people that's been interested in
- 19:16cutting it since. Leo Iford was just down here,
- 19:20and he told me his son was talking about cutting
- 19:22it. That's cool. He's a picker. Al Bruno taught
- 19:26him guitar, so you know he's a good picker. Wow.
- 19:30Yeah, but he was talking about doing it, but
- 19:33nobody's done racking them up. But that's the
- 19:36one that got me introduced into the business.
- 19:39Yeah, like your audition song. Yeah. That's cool.
- 19:43That was a 72 song too, huh? 72, yep. Bobby Cunningham,
- 19:52old boy from Tennessee, Waverly, Tennessee. So
- 19:57for truck driving. pool shooting son of a gun
- 20:01you wrote that with jerry osborne again right
- 20:03just like we wrote that uh uh lord that was back
- 20:10in 72 i say wasn't it oh yeah yeah so you wrote
- 20:14it at the same time you wrote the other one but
- 20:16you saved the song till later cool yeah and you
- 20:20had a kind of a choir back a backup vocals in
- 20:23that song too right oh yeah what does the bakersfield
- 20:27sound What is the definition of Bakersfield sound
- 20:31to you? Very rewarding spot in my life as a singer
- 20:38to be from Bakersfield and to be put into the
- 20:42sound over a song. It's really amazing to me
- 20:50how songs can lead you along the road. to stardom
- 20:58and new things in your life. What a tune can
- 21:02do for a man if he hangs in there long enough.
- 21:07But I've had a lot of help along the road. I
- 21:13had a lot of people that admired me and through
- 21:18it all has pushed for me. The day I got my...
- 21:25opened up the Bakersfield Sound over there. That's
- 21:28the day I met the Soda Crackers. They played
- 21:30out there. And I went inside and seen my suit
- 21:34that I'd signed away. That was the beginning
- 21:38of, you know, glory in music for me because I
- 21:45never done no, even though I was. Close to being
- 21:49on a major label a couple of times along the
- 21:53road. I never did reach that plateau. But all
- 21:58these here wondering things has happened to me
- 22:01since. It's covered it. I'm very happy. I'm a
- 22:07happy guy in Bakersfield. Yeah, and you're still
- 22:12out there singing constantly. I have seen you
- 22:17multiple times at the Rustic Rail singing, and
- 22:20I know you're always singing, and so it's so
- 22:24cool to see you still playing music. Well, thank
- 22:28you, AJ. That makes me want to do it more. Oh,
- 22:35I should give you this. Here's another ad I found.
- 22:38This is an ad I saw for I'm a truck drive -in
- 22:41pool shooting son of a gun. On the Cougar Records,
- 22:45yeah. Is this out of Billboard? It should say
- 22:50on the top. I can't remember. Country Nashville
- 22:53scene, hot country LPs. Yeah, I think it might
- 22:56be Billboard again. Yeah, Gene Watson and there's
- 22:59old Sonny right below there on Cougar Records.
- 23:02I appreciate these. I'll put them in my keepsake
- 23:05book. For sure. Yes, sir. That's where they go.
- 23:10So what did you do after truck driving? Came
- 23:15out. Done quite a few songs I've cut that I never
- 23:21have really got out there yet. They're just now
- 23:23surfacing. Some of this stuff that they're having
- 23:27local artists do my stuff 40 -something years
- 23:30later. Now, that was 43 years ago. Yeah. Huh?
- 23:36Yeah. It's amazing how songs go. Like Sing Born
- 23:41to Lose. Yeah. Shantice Marie, she's only 39,
- 23:45and I done that song, what, 43 years ago? So
- 23:49the song's older than her. Wow. But she loved
- 23:52the song and done a good cover on it. I wish
- 23:55you could hear her sing that song. Yeah, I'll
- 23:58have to look it up, yeah. So, oh, we didn't talk
- 24:02about Red Simpson. We should talk about Red Simpson.
- 24:06We can't miss Red Simpson. Oh, Lord, how much
- 24:08time we had to talk about Rojo, man. I sung Truck
- 24:12Driving Man for him today over at the Rasmussen's.
- 24:15Wow. Yeah, I do that song a lot of times. And
- 24:19it's always, it's my, thank you, Red, for being
- 24:25my mentor. I tell people, no, he took me, when
- 24:29he had Hello, I'm a Truck. Yeah. He took me on
- 24:33the road with him several times and exposed me
- 24:36to his crowds. San Francisco, I went all the
- 24:39way through Oregon. The first time I went to
- 24:42the state of Oregon, I was with Red Simpson.
- 24:45And we was going through the snow in Ashland.
- 24:48And we was making tracks on the inner lane, inside
- 24:52lane, coming into Ashland, Oregon. Wow. With
- 24:56Red Simpson, me and him. He took me out there
- 25:00and exposed me to his crowds. That's good. Oh,
- 25:04yeah. He was a mentor. Red was a real writer,
- 25:09man. He wrote every day. He's like Buddy Mines.
- 25:12Wow. He wasn't writing on something. Real writers,
- 25:18that's the way. I'm a halfway writer. Because
- 25:21I just ride it once in a while, something hit
- 25:24me. Yeah. But them guys, they rode every day.
- 25:27Yeah. But I was blessed to be around them. See,
- 25:32I went to school with Buddy Mize and Dallas Frazier
- 25:35at East High. Wow. A lot of people didn't know
- 25:38that. They put it in the paper here a while back.
- 25:40Did you know that Sonny England went to school
- 25:43with East Bakersfield High School with Dallas
- 25:46Frazier and Buddy Mize? We'd meet in the mornings,
- 25:50and then all of a sudden he disappeared for a
- 25:52while. And I said, hey, where'd Dallas go? Some
- 25:54of the guys said, I seen Dallas lately. He said,
- 25:56oh, man, Ferdinand Husky took him down to L .A.
- 26:00Said he's singing down there on some kind of
- 26:02big shows. I said, you're kidding. I didn't know
- 26:06Dallas had even wrote Alley Hoop. He never said
- 26:10nothing about it, you know. That's funny. So,
- 26:15like I said, I didn't know these guys long. It's
- 26:18like I was meant to be in this business. Yeah.
- 26:22Some of the people I've met, yeah. But my hero,
- 26:27if I had a hero, I want all of them in the business.
- 26:33I hate to leave anybody out, but I'd say it was
- 26:36Dorsey Burnett. He was my brother. I loved Dorsey.
- 26:41And I knew he loved me. A lot of people would
- 26:44see me around the Palomino, walking around Dorsey's
- 26:48arm around me, around my neck. Everybody thought
- 26:52I was Sonny Burnett. But Dorsey was my inspiration.
- 26:59I admired Dorsey Burnett. That's wonderful. As
- 27:04a brother, big brother, yeah. He was quite a
- 27:07guy, man. He left here when he was 46. We don't
- 27:12know when a number's going to come, but, you
- 27:15know, I can share with old Dorsey now that I
- 27:18made it to 87. I'm not bragging. It's because
- 27:22the Lord knows what my number is. If I make it
- 27:25to May the 21st, I'll be 88. Now I'm doing gospel.
- 27:30My whole new turn is this new stuff I've done.
- 27:33You got a copy? Did you get a copy? No, I don't.
- 27:37But I did read about it, right? Last year, you
- 27:39cut an album in Nashville, right? Yeah, you got
- 27:42it. I'll give you a couple copies. Oh, thank
- 27:45you. I got a couple copies for you out there
- 27:47in the car. I carry a little box around with
- 27:49me. Everybody said, well, Sonny, how much owe
- 27:52you for this? I said, this is on Jesus and me.
- 27:56That's what I tell them. My little four songs,
- 28:00best songs I ever done, I believe, on recording.
- 28:05All of the others mean everything in the world,
- 28:08from Mrs. Olsen to name it. But doing my first
- 28:13gospel and it turning out like little Eugene
- 28:16Moles. I met him when he was seven years old
- 28:18over here a couple blocks away. And I know that
- 28:23someday, 60 years later, he'd be recording me.
- 28:27I didn't know I'd even be recording then when
- 28:30I was at his dad's house. And his dad introduced
- 28:34me to him that day. He was seven years old. And
- 28:37look at him now in Nashville. His circles. Everybody
- 28:41loves Eugene. Yeah. He's just a sweet little
- 28:44guy, man. He's one of them sweet guys. Yeah.
- 28:49And we need more of him in the business. Yeah.
- 28:53He's a great guitarist himself. Incredible. Scary.
- 28:57And his dad was a legend here, too. Oh, yeah.
- 29:00Well, yeah. Big Gene. He played with Nokia. It
- 29:04was an adventure. Yeah. That's cool. Not very
- 29:09many people get to record an album and especially,
- 29:12you know, keep recording albums, you know, throughout
- 29:18the years. Well, I'm going back, it looks like,
- 29:21in June. I haven't finished up an album, but
- 29:26we're working on it. It might take until Christmas,
- 29:29but I want to make it right, what have you. Do
- 29:34you have your top three favorite concerts that
- 29:37you played? Yeah, I'd say Fox and the Nile here
- 29:45in Bakersfield. The Nile is where I stood in
- 29:49line at the Nile Theater to watch James Dean
- 29:52and Rebel Without a Cause and all that was done.
- 29:55And the first time I was on stage there, you
- 29:58know, the feeling I had of standing in line out
- 30:02front and here I am, I'm on stage performing
- 30:05years later. Yeah. That's high. That was high
- 30:10at the Nile. But I'd say the Fox and another
- 30:14one. When I played out in 1970, I went to Kern
- 30:21Park, where they used to have a lot of Oklahoma
- 30:24Days and what have you, Buck and all. I went
- 30:28out there, and they were trying to get lights,
- 30:30money raised for the lights for the Junior Baseball
- 30:33Association so they could play ball at night.
- 30:37Cool. And I put in Hal LaFoon. He was a local
- 30:41celebrity. And so I went and co -hosted with
- 30:48him out at Kern Park. And instead of the 3 ,000
- 30:51dinners they had set up, well, they had to call
- 30:54Rudnick Beef Company and get another 2 ,000.
- 30:59Well, 5 ,000 people showed up out there for a
- 31:02steak dinner, and they built the lights. That's
- 31:08one of my honored things I worked. That's a good
- 31:11memory. Yeah, of course, when I see a ball game
- 31:15over by Sam Lynn Ballpark anymore and the lights
- 31:18on, brother, baby, I got a light out there. That's
- 31:22the way I feel about it. That's cool. It was
- 31:25from the heart. See, I played JBA here for two
- 31:28years, Oak Lane Shopping Center when I was in
- 31:31high school. And when they took my number, I
- 31:34was playing for East Bakersfield Blades. I got
- 31:37pulled from the team because of my grades. Well,
- 31:41I joined the Navy. I quit school and joined the
- 31:46Navy. Then you could join the service if you
- 31:49was in your senior year. Oh, yeah. Now you've
- 31:52got to have a high school diploma to get in the
- 31:55Marines or Navy and what have you. So I slid
- 31:59through another one, but it was high. I'm on
- 32:04a roll now. Yeah. Yeah? Yeah, I am. So blessed,
- 32:09buddy. I like having you here today. I'm happy
- 32:14to be here. Let's say, what about the top three
- 32:18concerts that you got to go to to see other people
- 32:21play? I'd say the one was Buck, and that's where
- 32:26Bobby Durham was opening his shows at Long Beach
- 32:30Arena. That's in 63. I seen George Jones. and
- 32:38i worked a lot of stuff with al i don't know
- 32:40you know who al hendrix was but i don't he was
- 32:44an old he played with the go daddies in their
- 32:47day there's a band and they've done rock at the
- 32:52barn over here which is the moose club now on
- 32:55stein i've got pictures up here on the wall with
- 32:58al hendrix and the band played with some good
- 33:03people smiley wilson the bakersfield brass and
- 33:07a big shopping center in Los Angeles. Eastland
- 33:11Shopping Center, I believe it was that day. Got
- 33:14to play a big one with Memories. I think that
- 33:21was one of my higher gigs because it was a big
- 33:25time deal. I was one of the stars of the show.
- 33:33Good memories, man. Yeah. Yeah. Which they all
- 33:39are. To tell you the truth, they all mean something,
- 33:43yeah. What's the craziest thing you saw happen
- 33:47at one of the concerts or honky -tonks? Probably
- 33:52playing here at home, out the pump room, out
- 33:57on Edison Highway. I had a fist fight right in
- 34:00front of the stage. And I told him, hey, you
- 34:05know what? You're going to do that stuff you
- 34:07can't do it here, bud. You guys break it up.
- 34:09I got on the microphone and told him, you want
- 34:12to tear places up, go to Edison out there where
- 34:16the cops would take them a lot longer to get
- 34:17there, but you can't do that stuff where I play.
- 34:20I want a place where Grandma can come and have
- 34:24a good time. I was known for standing up for
- 34:29my rights. Of course, I was still drinking Jack
- 34:34then, too, so I had a low tolerance for ignorance.
- 34:41And I let them know it right over the microphone.
- 34:44I was well known for that. But I didn't tolerate
- 34:47crap in the club because I really meant that.
- 34:51When I worked the club, my name was featuring.
- 34:55I wanted Grandma to have a good time. That's
- 35:00so nice. Yeah. And the Lord blessed me. He got
- 35:05me out of it. He stood behind me. Is there anything
- 35:13we're missing that you wanted to talk about that
- 35:15you want people to know? That I've changed my
- 35:21life through the Lord helped me. Get to a spot.
- 35:28And I'm so glad where I'm at now. I'd say my
- 35:32turn was a picker here in Bakersfield kept after
- 35:34me sometime, Tommy Hayes. And Tommy Hayes is
- 35:39one of the local all -time old pickers. And Sonny,
- 35:43I seen him at the VFW post on Union. And he said,
- 35:49when are you going to go to church with me, Sonny?
- 35:51And I said, you know, Tommy, this is the third
- 35:54time you've asked me. I'll tell you what, I'll
- 35:58be there. I'm coming. I don't know if it'll be
- 36:01this Sunday, but I will come. I finally took
- 36:05that Sunday. A couple Sundays later, I go out
- 36:08to the manor, to the cowboy church over there.
- 36:13It's changed my life. I'm not a complete, I'm
- 36:17not no, say, devout, dyed -in -the -wool guy
- 36:22that is ready to fly away. But I like Sonny better
- 36:29than I ever did. Been around drinking still yet,
- 36:33but I don't. It gives me that more tolerance
- 36:37to put up with crap, that I see what alcohol
- 36:41does and still be around it. You can't break
- 36:44it, and you can't knock the bottle and sing to
- 36:48them. So I've had to learn how to be a wiser
- 36:51guy. Keep my thoughts to myself. Let them check
- 36:57for their own. They see the change. If you shine
- 37:01your light, that's all you got to do. If they
- 37:05knew you before, and I've always had a good nature
- 37:09with people, and I could say something to some
- 37:12bunch of guys saying, hey, you know, there's
- 37:14some ladies here, man. What's the language you
- 37:18got, man? I could say something. A lot of people
- 37:22didn't, but I did, and not one time did I get
- 37:25skint by some hillbilly because I said something
- 37:30about their language. I was always protected.
- 37:35Somebody had their hand on me, and I think I
- 37:39know who it was now. It's been a blessing since
- 37:45I've done this little gospel CD with Gene Mose.
- 37:49out of nashville what a producer i got the best
- 37:53little producer in the world we're going to do
- 37:56an album by the christmas oh a new one oh yeah
- 37:59this these four songs is going to go on to eight
- 38:03more i'm going to put a 12 song oh yeah that's
- 38:07cool album out gospel album And you're still
- 38:10going to be playing around, right? You told me
- 38:12you're going to keep singing all around town.
- 38:15I'll play everywhere they want me to come and
- 38:17play. I'll be there at the side door ready to
- 38:20go on, or back room changing clothes, getting
- 38:24ready for the crowd, please my fans. That's what
- 38:29it's all about. That's great. Yeah. All right.
- 38:34To end off the show, we always talk about, we
- 38:36do shout -outs. So is there any Bakersfield musicians
- 38:41you want to shout -out that you want people that
- 38:44are listening to this episode to listen to to
- 38:46check out? In Bakersfield? Yeah, Bakersfield
- 38:50musicians. Kyle Appleton. Have you heard of him?
- 38:54Oh, yeah. Kyle Appleton. I've seen him a few
- 38:57times playing with different groups. He's a great
- 38:59guitarist. He's a West Coast Gene Mos. He can
- 39:04play anything. Yeah, he's a very good guitarist.
- 39:06And very good, and a nice guy. Yeah, several
- 39:11of them. Davin Brinsfield, Shantice Marie, what
- 39:15can you say, Jerry Whittington, Oscar's boy.
- 39:19He plays bass, you know, and saxophone. Country
- 39:22George, McGammon. Oh, yeah, my little buddy Zane
- 39:28Adamo with the Soda Crackers. What a new venture
- 39:31in my life to know him and his brother. They
- 39:35have been an uplift to me since I met the Soda
- 39:39Crackers. Well, thank you so much for being on
- 39:42the show. Thanks for the interview. Thank you,
- 39:44AJ, for taking time out to give old son a shot
- 39:48here. Yeah, I appreciate this. Let the people
- 39:52know how much I appreciate it. All right. Without
- 39:57the fan. There'd be no Sonny Anglin. That's the
- 40:01way I feel from my heart and soul. My fans has
- 40:05made me. That's who made me. So I got to keep
- 40:08singing for them. Yeah. I can't quit. I'm hooked.
- 40:16I remember the first time with her by my side.
- 40:28We walked in the spring morning sunshine And
- 40:33like a dew that lays upon a blade of grass She
- 40:38lays pretty heavy on my mind And then in the
- 40:44evenings, warm in her embrace I ventured to a
- 40:48place you've never been And in her way of loving
- 40:54me, she's made my life worth living Warm my heart
- 40:58like early summer wind. And today's tomorrow's
- 41:04yesterday. Tomorrow's what I'm looking for. And
- 41:11today's tomorrow's yesterday. As sure as winter
- 41:17snow falls, I'll be with her evermore.