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Patriots Unfiltered 7/28: Training Camp Day 4 Live Show, Jerod Mayo Interview · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: This is Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website.
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  Speaker 3: Hello everyone, and welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Our special live
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  Speaker 3: coverage from Patriots training camp. Were day four here at
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  Speaker 3: Jilt Stadium, a beautiful day. The crowd is here, the
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  Speaker 3: players are here, Paul Pirillo, Evan Lazarre, Mike du So,
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  Speaker 3: Tomorrow Brown are here and we're gonna bring you practice
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  Speaker 3: for the next No, I don't know a couple hours
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  Speaker 3: or so. Uh so we're excited. It's day four. Tomorrow
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  Speaker 3: they'll be in pads so well, it'd be interesting to
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  Speaker 3: see what they do today to get ready for tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: But uh, like I said, we'll be here for the
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  Speaker 3: next couple hours bringing you everything that we see on
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  Speaker 3: at practice. After practice, we'll have a special interview with
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  Speaker 3: girod Mao, uh just with us with Patriots Unfiltered, So
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  Speaker 3: he'll be on the field and we'll be talking to
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  Speaker 3: him right after practice.
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  Speaker 2: So that's cool kind of seeing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, see where he thinks the team's out after four days,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and we we say four days, but really.
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  Speaker 4: It's beenise him for that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'm gonna it's it's a lot more than
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  Speaker 3: that when you take into consideration the rookie mini camps,
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  Speaker 3: the ot as, the the mandatory mini camp that they had,
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  Speaker 3: So you know, there's a certain point where I would
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  Speaker 3: expect that he thinks the team should be at and
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  Speaker 3: I'll be interested to see what what he says in
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  Speaker 3: terms of what his expectations are and have they been
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  Speaker 3: met so far?
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  Speaker 2: So so what are we looking for today?
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  Speaker 5: I wonder if today is to set the table day
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  Speaker 5: they were off yesterday, you know, I wonder if they're
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  Speaker 5: going to be setting things up for Pats tomorrow and
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  Speaker 5: they be going through some of the things that they're
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  Speaker 5: going to be running tomorrow at full speed, trying to
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  Speaker 5: make sure that that everybody knows what they're doing so
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  Speaker 5: when they get on the field with pads tomorrow it
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  Speaker 5: can be fully effective.
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  Speaker 4: That's I think kind of how Bill used to do
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  Speaker 4: it a little bit.
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  Speaker 6: But it could very possibly change.
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  Speaker 5: It could be, you know, a ramp up of what
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  Speaker 5: we saw a couple of days ago where they're you know,
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  Speaker 5: starting to.
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  Speaker 4: Have some more competitive periods.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I would imagine even though they have pads
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  Speaker 3: on tomorrow, it's probably seventy five percent, right, You're not
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  Speaker 3: going right from shells to pads and expecting guys to
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  Speaker 3: be hitting at full throw.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's like day seventy Fred. They should be ready,
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  Speaker 4: shouldn't they.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know physically, mentally they should be, but
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  Speaker 3: I don't know about you know, yeah, I worry about that.
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  Speaker 4: You're right, they're right.
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  Speaker 3: You know, do you do you go right into full
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  Speaker 3: speed hitting when you haven't done it all summer?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, but that but that was kind of
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  Speaker 5: a feature when you guys used to watch back in
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  Speaker 5: Brian College, right like like day one pads will be
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  Speaker 5: like that's exactly what it's going to be. It's going
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  Speaker 5: to be one hundred and ten percent because this is
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  Speaker 5: where you know, we're really gonna set the tone in camp.
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  Speaker 3: Back back then, we were smoking, you know, cigarettes and airplanes.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, come on, you know I can remember goal
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  Speaker 4: line on the first day, absolutely live goal line bet
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  Speaker 4: Teddy Johnson and Ted Johnson, Ye, Paul, Yeah, Mountain goats.
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  Speaker 2: Clashing Mountain Goats. I mean, I mean the impacts were audible.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, if you're a middle linebacker're going in the first
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  Speaker 5: day of pads I imagine, or a full back for
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  Speaker 5: that matter, you know you're going to be getting some.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, we have a seventy seventy five.
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  Speaker 4: I had a new guy. I was just going to
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  Speaker 4: say that we have a new guy.
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  Speaker 2: Players are trickling out onto the field.
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  Speaker 4: Defensive lineman. He's wearing blue. All right, we'll see. Let's
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  Speaker 4: see who that might be. Well, effort that Andy on
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  Speaker 4: the on the Twitter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about oh, i'd say close to eighty degrees
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  Speaker 2: right now. It's here at Foxboro, n Nice day today,
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  Speaker 2: sunny day.
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  Speaker 4: Good day for golf of your sunny day?
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  Speaker 6: Stands full of fans.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, what's that time for individual achievement?
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  Speaker 7: Stands full of fans. I have a fan?
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  Speaker 4: Is that the fan you gutter?
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  Speaker 8: Is that a fan from Stacey the Patriots PR Department.
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  Speaker 8: They're fans of us, and they got U Spankee that
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  Speaker 8: I did not get that.
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  Speaker 2: Boy. They're so clever.
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  Speaker 7: Sure, I'm sure they love our coverin.
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  Speaker 4: I got one hand with pen in, one hand with
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  Speaker 4: with binoculars. I don't got a time I gotta count
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  Speaker 4: for a thing.
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  Speaker 8: Few in the building too, well, I will say the
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  Speaker 8: fans that they got us. You can actually strap.
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  Speaker 5: Around your neck like I've seen like some things that
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  Speaker 5: they're got now where you almost you strap a thing
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  Speaker 5: onto your belt and it.
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  Speaker 4: Just blows air up your shirt.
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  Speaker 5: Like there were all these like modern advances and staying cool,
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  Speaker 5: but I always flashed back to those joint practices in Nashville,
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  Speaker 5: which that's the only time I felt like I needed
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  Speaker 5: an auxiliary device to like help stay cold because it
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  Speaker 5: was just it was so like the second we stepped
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  Speaker 5: out of the car at that facility in Tennessee, it
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  Speaker 5: was like I'm just going to be drenched, Like there's
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  Speaker 5: no there's no other way about it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Vegas was was bad, but in a different way. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: it's that dry desert heat. But Tennessee.
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  Speaker 4: It's no joke. And then we went to Jersey Mike's
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  Speaker 4: and the lady took forever.
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  Speaker 5: Oh remember how long it took us to go through
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  Speaker 5: and like you you got to cut the meat, lady,
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  Speaker 5: you can't get into conversation.
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  Speaker 4: It's long enough at Jersey Mikes. With the amount of
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  Speaker 4: work that goes into the sandwich. Take a look at
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  Speaker 4: my forehead and count all the beat beats of sweat,
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  Speaker 4: and then then you can tell me how I'm doing.
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  Speaker 3: All right back here, a little technical difficulty, but they
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  Speaker 3: cleared that up.
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  Speaker 6: There's something much better for it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure what was going on. I do worry,
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  Speaker 3: you know, with the sun beating down on our equipment,
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  Speaker 3: if that has anything to do, but I don't think
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  Speaker 3: that was it.
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  Speaker 2: So now you've got the handheld fan, uh tomorrow.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, this is actually from manual. Are you from the
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  Speaker 7: south you I know this is actually from I think
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  Speaker 7: my first training camp. You know they handed them out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, players gets a lot of the handouts, it sure does.
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  Speaker 4: She said that one. She said that one for two years.
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  Speaker 4: It's not that I you know, I'm looking for a fan,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Just saying, so we're pret practice here. It's the principal.
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  Speaker 7: I'm your biggest fan of Paul.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks.
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  Speaker 2: Players still arriving, as they say, so.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe some contract talk.
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  Speaker 5: I think I think since we last spoke, we've had
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  Speaker 5: some contracts going around there to Tungo Biloa.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, we're going to get to that.
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  Speaker 5: We're going to get to that in a little bit
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  Speaker 5: Evan and I yeah, you're not ready.
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm ready whenever you are, all right, So
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  Speaker 4: you're great, all right. As we're waiting for the players
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  Speaker 4: to arrive and get started and we actually give you some.
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  Speaker 6: Patriots news to talk about.
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  Speaker 4: There was a sort of a line of thought on
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  Speaker 4: the on my show as Freddy, Yeah, as we were
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  Speaker 4: driving home from from work on on Friday, in the
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  Speaker 4: light of Toua's extension. So obviously a big money extension.
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  Speaker 4: It's like fifty two, fifty three, fifty two. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 4: so it's a lot of money. I'm not I'm not
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  Speaker 4: downplaying the amount of money he got. It's a lot.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's like third, the fourth highest paid quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: And how much of it is guaranteed.
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  Speaker 6: Like one hundred and sixty seven it's a lot of money.
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  Speaker 4: So the line of thought was that this was a
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  Speaker 4: great thing for the Patriots because they get this terrible
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  Speaker 4: quarterback now now in the division. I'm like, well, so
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  Speaker 4: like yesterday they were behind Miami who had two as
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  Speaker 4: the quarterback under the fifty yeer option. Today he now
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  Speaker 4: makes one hundred and sixty seven million guaranteed, and now
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  Speaker 4: the Patriots it's a good thing for the Patriots. There's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of different layers to this, not the least
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  Speaker 4: of which is two has won a lot of football games.
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  Speaker 4: He's like thirty two and nineteen, Is that right? So
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  Speaker 4: who yes, thirty two and nineteen.
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  Speaker 7: As they Paul, And he's six and zero against the
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  Speaker 7: Patriots exactly.
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  Speaker 2: But like who said it was a good.
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  Speaker 4: Thing, Jim Murray and Matt McCarthy, I said, my shop,
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  Speaker 4: But it's not. It wasn't just that, it was a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people.
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  Speaker 7: I saw a groundswell of it on Patriots Twitter as well.
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  Speaker 7: And to Paul's point, the first point is can you
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  Speaker 7: beat the guy first in a game before we start
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  Speaker 7: saying that, oh, this is great news for the Patriots,
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  Speaker 7: right And the quarterback play that we've watched over the
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  Speaker 7: last five years here since Brady left, they would be
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  Speaker 7: lucky if they had to Attaga Baloa on their football
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  Speaker 7: team as their quarterback right now. And third of all,
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  Speaker 7: just statistically over the last couple of years too, was
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  Speaker 7: one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. You wanted
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  Speaker 7: to use passer rating EPA per drop back, whatever you
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  Speaker 7: want to want to use.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm not he's been an MVP conversation the last
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  Speaker 4: two seasons.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 4: Two years ago, you know, he obviously got hurt and
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  Speaker 4: that ended that. And last year, like Kevin said, he
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  Speaker 4: was like a top ten quarterback exactly.
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  Speaker 3: But last year it was his first full season correct
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  Speaker 3: that he played without missing games.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know if it was his
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  Speaker 4: first full I know the year before we got concussions, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But I think it was. But but regardless, he's a
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  Speaker 2: he's a good quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: He's a good quarter The point, the point I'm trying
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  Speaker 4: to make is I don't know why it wasn't good
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  Speaker 4: before the contract, but it is good after the contract.
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  Speaker 4: Nothing has changed in terms of his status, like the
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  Speaker 4: fact that he's going to be the quarterback of a
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  Speaker 4: team in your division that is thought to be better
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  Speaker 4: than you for the next five years.
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  Speaker 6: Now. I don't understand how that's a good thing for
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  Speaker 6: the Patriots.
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  Speaker 3: I don't Well, obviously whoever was saying that, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think he's that good.
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  Speaker 4: But he wasn't that good before he signed the contract,
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  Speaker 4: and it wasn't a good thing for the Patriots that
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  Speaker 4: he was their starting quarterback. Well, now he signs a
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  Speaker 4: contract and it's a good thing for the Patrol.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's a topic. I don't know. I'm not defending them.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just trying to think why now they're saying that.
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  Speaker 3: But either way, the Miami Dolphins right now are a
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  Speaker 3: better football team than New England Patriots, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: until Drake May proves, and they're.
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  Speaker 4: In a better situation today than they were heading into
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  Speaker 4: camp because they no longer have a question market quarterback
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  Speaker 4: sure like long term. Okay, I don't again, I don't
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  Speaker 4: really know how that's a bad thing for I mean,
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  Speaker 4: a good thing for the paprioll.
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  Speaker 3: Unless you don't, unless you feel a tu it can't
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  Speaker 3: get them to where they want to go, which is
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  Speaker 3: obviously be champion.
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  Speaker 4: But that might be the case. That could that could
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  Speaker 4: be accurate. Again, I don't know why that's a good
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  Speaker 4: thing for the Patriots. Yeah, like two was gonna fall
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  Speaker 4: short in Miami. How is that good for the Patriots?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's it's neither good nor bad.
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  Speaker 4: It's just you know, I would agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I don't know. I wasn't listening, so I
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  Speaker 3: don't It was tough, it was, it was, it.
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  Speaker 6: Was a tough Uh. I just think to take.
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  Speaker 7: The biggest thing is I think, yeah, until you are
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  Speaker 7: on that level, like worry about your your own house
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  Speaker 7: a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a time where we could demean everybody
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  Speaker 3: else's quarterback because we had the best one, you know,
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  Speaker 3: so no one was as good as ours.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, those days are over, folks.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, like you look at the contracts that Tua
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  Speaker 4: and Jordan Love signed over the weekend. To me, like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think there's anything wrong with them that that's
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  Speaker 4: that's what it happens.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it is, but it is getting a little bit
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  Speaker 2: much in.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the teams are now so quarterback dependent. I
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  Speaker 3: just wonder if some you know, the next round of CBA,
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  Speaker 3: or even before you know, as they start talking about
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  Speaker 3: the eighteenth game and they have to amend the current CBA,
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  Speaker 3: they might stiffen up the salary cap. You know, right
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  Speaker 3: now it's a very loose salary cap. There's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of loopholes, there's a lot of ways to get around it.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder if the next step from the owners is
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  Speaker 3: to make that a little bit more hard a cap.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know, but I can't imagine
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  Speaker 3: the owners are you know, doing cartwheels about the amount
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  Speaker 3: of money they have to pay one person on their team.
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  Speaker 8: But I will say that one person can really make
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  Speaker 8: or break your team. You've seen how much dependable quarterback
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  Speaker 8: play does for a team, and you see how much
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  Speaker 8: not having a pulse on your your in your quarterback
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  Speaker 8: room does for your team. So I think you know,
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  Speaker 8: regardless of how the salary cap situation works out, I
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  Speaker 8: think the quarterback is the most important person.
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  Speaker 7: On the team.
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  Speaker 4: You're right.
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  Speaker 3: But the second part of what you just said tomorrow
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  Speaker 3: make or break. Yeah, he can also break. And now
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  Speaker 3: you've got all that money that you.
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  Speaker 6: Paid him, you know, But that's not the break part.
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  Speaker 4: The break part is he can't play right, not the
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  Speaker 4: money because the money is fixed. The cap is the cap. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's not going to go away. They're not
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  Speaker 4: going to do away with the cap.
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  Speaker 2: No, I didn't say they would do. What I'm saying is.
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  Speaker 4: Making it a hard cap makes it harder.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it gives them a reason, a valid reason, Paul,
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  Speaker 3: not to pay as much to one price.
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  Speaker 4: So it makes it harder to be good if you
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  Speaker 4: don't give the quarterback that money.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Paul, that's not what they're worried about he's out,
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  Speaker 2: they're worried about the money.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean out they worried about trying to
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  Speaker 4: win games. Would I like to think that most of
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  Speaker 4: the help in sports are trying to win games. I
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  Speaker 4: know that's not one hundred percent. That's naive on my part. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I know some guys don't care.
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  Speaker 3: You would hope that's all they care about. But it's
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  Speaker 3: cash out of pocket. You know, we all know the
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  Speaker 3: difference is between what the cap UH number is in
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  Speaker 3: cash spent, which is usually higher than yeah, and that
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  Speaker 3: you know, owners that comes out of the owner's pocket
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  Speaker 3: have to figure out a way to finance that if
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  Speaker 3: they don't have the ready cash.
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  Speaker 4: I'm with you, Fred, So you know, I'm just I'm
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  Speaker 4: just I'm with you. I'm totally with you everything you
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  Speaker 4: just said.
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  Speaker 7: I just think the biggest thing to me is that
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  Speaker 7: clearly a lot of people think that that to a stinks.
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  Speaker 4: Is that Kendrick Bourne, Yeah, but he's yeah, he's not.
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  Speaker 5: STEP's Gibson also had his helmet with him.
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  Speaker 6: I saw that.
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  Speaker 7: With two people obviously think he stakes well, he stinks well,
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  Speaker 7: not stinks well.
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  Speaker 4: Like anybody who thinks it's a good thing for the
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  Speaker 4: Patriots that he signed a contract.
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  Speaker 6: Obviously thinks he.
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  Speaker 7: Isn't whatever you want to call it, like isn't good enough, right,
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  Speaker 7: isn't at that level.
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  Speaker 4: And I would just say that.
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  Speaker 7: The Patriots would be pretty lucky if Drake May ends
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  Speaker 7: up being as good as Tua like that.
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  Speaker 6: Obviously a different kind of player, but I agree with.
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  Speaker 7: That, right just in terms of production, production and that
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  Speaker 7: it just it just goes to show, like there's so
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  Speaker 7: many quarterbacks that end up just actually like Zach Wilson,
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  Speaker 7: like actually stinks, and our barometer is still so high.
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  Speaker 7: I feel like from from Brady that we we still
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  Speaker 7: hold everybody at that at that regard and like whoever
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  Speaker 7: it's Drake May, if it's four years from now, it's
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  Speaker 7: the next guy, no one is going to be up
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  Speaker 7: on that pedestal.
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  Speaker 4: So see, that's something I would say, like you just
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  Speaker 4: threw Zach Wilson out there. Yeah, if the Jets decided,
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  Speaker 4: you know what, he's going to turn the corner and
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  Speaker 4: they gave him a contract that was going to lock
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  Speaker 4: him up. I'm not talking about a now you're I'm
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  Speaker 4: not talking about a fifty million per year contract, but
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  Speaker 4: a contract that was going to make him their starting
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  Speaker 4: quarterback next year, right right, Yes, Now that helps you
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  Speaker 4: clearly is.
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  Speaker 7: At bagging the two a contract and saying that's a
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  Speaker 7: that's a good thing for the Patriots a bad thing
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  Speaker 7: for Miami. You're probably gonna go the rest of your
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  Speaker 7: lifetime never seeing a quarterback that you think is good
• 14:52
  Speaker 7: for the Patriots because it's never their quarterback for the
• 14:55
  Speaker 7: Patriots is never going to be.
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: It was the same kind of stuff when Detroit re
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: upped Golf.
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: Right, Jared Goff is pretty good.
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: He's not Brady, he's not Mahomes, but he's pretty good.
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: And that's what those guys cost.
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: Right now, You've got to get used to the number
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: is that's one of the things. I think people aren't
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: used to that number, fifty million plus a year for
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: a player, but that's the number these days. I mean,
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: what's Dak Prescott going to get. You know, he's the
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: next best quarterback that has a contract coming.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: It's it's gonna be ludicrous.
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: He'll be in that neighborhood.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: I think he's going to demand to be higher.
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: He probably won't get up from Dallas.
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: Then, yeah, Paul, you should I thought you made a
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: good point though about Jordan Love, you know, sitting and
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: just to sample size with him. You know, it's just
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: a good it's a good comp fir. When we talk
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: about Drake May, I mean, I'll let you make the point.
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: But we spend so much time. But when should Drake
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: May play? I mean we're seeing it with Jordan Love.
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: They had to give him that contract, not a huge samples.
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: Now, Jordan Love might have a higher ceiling than Tua,
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: might be more he's you know, as bigger, It might
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: be more physically gifted than toa so he could turn
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: out to be a better player. I would feel better
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: with those contracts based on what I know about Tua
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: than what I know about Jordan Love.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more of a leap of faith for Love
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: Again, I think Jordan Love is going to be a
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: good player. I don't think that's a bad contract at all.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, if I had to, based on
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: the evidence that I have, I'd feel better about Sure
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: Miami than Green Bay because it's really only one season
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: for Love and he really didn't play all that well
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: until about halfway through, and then he was awesome, you know,
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: for the stretch driving in the playoffs, he played really well,
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: and I think that's where he's going. I think he,
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: you know, kind of clicked and he's on the rise.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: So I'm not criticizing Green Bay for the for the
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: deal at all, but that's tough. You sit him for
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: three years and then you don't get a whole lot
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: of you know, data to go off of when you
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: have to give these guys fifty plus million a year.
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: So has just announced that Josiah Brunson is the new
• 17:02
  Speaker 7: seventy five.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Okay, Josiah Brunson.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: And then where see what's his background?
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: What's his forting?
• 17:09
  Speaker 7: Do you loading the pin hand sized? So he was
• 17:13
  Speaker 7: a UFL player, played it in the UFL, another spring league.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: So do you think the powers that be in the
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: NFL like the fact that.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Your team is make or break dependent on one guy,
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: your quarterback?
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Do you think they like that that.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: The quarterback is obviously too important? They probably don't like that, right,
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: So I don't think it has as much to do
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: with money as it does with the team though.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: That's all okay, So thinking ahead five to ten years,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: do you think they would ever do anything to alleviate
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: that too? You know, it's like maybe you know, right now,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: all the all the rules are favoring the offense.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Do they reverse that a little bit give the defense
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: a little bit of an edge?
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: I just I don't. I mean, it's a good question.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: I just I struggle to see how you can reduce
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: the value of a quarterback in football, and you know
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: especially I mean, I guess Fred you made a good
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: point about do you tip a little bit of the
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: balance back to the defense. I have a hard time
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: seeing that happen. I just think with fantasy football and
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: the gambling that goes on now, you know, it's just
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: it's hard for them for me to see them taking strides.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: But a lot of it at Dampston Scoring Down.
• 18:28
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• 18:41
  Speaker 2: go to practice.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: I feel like the clouds are literally moving right over
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: the field right now, and we're about to have like
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: the rest of the day is about to be cloudy.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Oh oh, is that you, I mean, look at it.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Did you check out Don Kent's forecast this morning? Oh?
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: Don Ken, I was unaware of his forehead. One's that
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Don kents ntev I love, I love feeling too young?
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: But does it does seem just like the cloud cover
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: is literally just coming right over a welcome relief it is.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: I I'm all for it.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I'm also all for bud Light because it's easy to drink,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: easy to enjoy. Bud Light is the official beer sponsor
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: of the New England Patriots.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: Do you guys watch any of the Olympics there we
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: got going here. I did a.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Little bit, a little bit. I saw France beat Fiji. Yeah,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: seven's rugby, big upset.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: I watched that's the first ever loss for Fiji.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: In the Olympics, in the Olympic Rocks.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: And I watched a little of Nadal and Alcahaz together, right.
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: I watched a little of Greece Canada and basketball versus
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: s g A was fun.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: So now, Paul, I don't know if you know this
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: because you're mister red zone, but for the Olympics, they
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: they do the gold zone and.
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: If you're Evan was telling me all about it. He
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: got handsome.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: I'm sure torturing it, just like he doesn't on a
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: weekly basis.
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: It's not just Scott Hansen. They actually have a rotation
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: because it's it's like ten hours of coverage. So Andrew Ceciliano,
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: who did it for Direct TV for years their red
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: Zone channel, is also.
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: You have no idea what was going on in games. Either.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: It was tough, it was it was bad too.
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they were tossing to like fencing.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: When I was watching it, I meant the actual.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: But to be fair, they toss it defencing when something
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: you know it's about to be a deciding.
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: Yes, it was the gold medal, like it.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not going to sit there and watch
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: an hour of fencing. Just give me the good part.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah right.
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: The one the one nippick I had about it was
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: that they didn't stay on an event for very long.
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: So if it was like a team event or something
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: like that, you're only getting right, you know, two minutes
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: of Greece Canada and then all of a sudden they're
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: throwing to something else. And so I at that point I.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Probed, did you notice that while you're doing that? And
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: the bottom right you can click and watch the whole
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: game if you want.
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: So that's I ended up doing that at basketball game
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: because I just wanted to watch No, I think the game.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: This is groundbreaking coverage of the Olympics, and you know,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: obviously NBC is using Peacock to cover it all.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: So it's it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool.
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: It is cool because they literally have every great idea
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: for the Olympics. Yeah, they literally have everything.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: Because of Peacock, they have the ability to show you
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: pretty much any event that's going on. You could watched
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: jiu jitsu yesterday if you wanted to watch that, if.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: You well, that's tips thing, all right, So Freddy real quick,
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: just you know, they did send the release out for Josiah.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: It's Bronson. He's twenty seven and he played last year.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: He played in the in the spring with the Memphis
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: show Boats. Oh sure, sure, so he had They've got
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: a size on twelve tackles in ten games with a
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: one and a half sacks, six three two ninety five.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: He spent some time in the NFL with New Orleans, Cleveland, Dallas,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: and Miami. Originally a rookie free agent for New Orleans
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: in twenty one, out of Washington and I'm sorry, what
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: positions defensive tackle?
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so sometimes you know, it's very early in the summer,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: but sometimes they do that because somebody is having some
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: injury issues more.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: I know, I don't like seeing not seeing barbar out here.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: It's it could be something minor. And then somebody said
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: he was sick the first day, but like you had
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: a day off yesterday.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: I don't know, Radar is up on him.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: I always get a little worried when they bring guys in.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Who's hurt, Who's hurt?
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's He's the only one kind of missing from
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: that group, which you.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: Know is admittedly kind of thin to begin with, at
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: least with guys who have a lot of experience in
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: the NFL.
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: I was going to say, I think illness is going
• 22:40
  Speaker 8: around right now. I mean Lamar Jackson was sick as well.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people were. They were they together?
• 22:46
  Speaker 8: No, But I mean I'm just saying that a lot
• 22:48
  Speaker 8: of people are sick right now.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: It's going around.
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: Something is going around. Not sure what it is, but.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, COVID COVID, Drake May, we're working with a little
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: walk past right now.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, is this a cameras off? Portion of the of
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: the pack.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I think we're cameras are eleven twenty five.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: I think we'll have cameras back on.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: So maybe uh could mean nothing just because they're near
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: the red zone. But I do wonder maybe we get
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: a little red zone today. That could be seven on
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: seven one, yeah.
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: Or Mike, it could be like you mentioned earlier, they're
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: they're working on some things they put on the pads.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just but it's all screen passes. Not really,
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: you're not really running screens on the four yard line.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: I watch. I don't think so maybe that's just how
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: they're divided up right now.
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, don't have eyes on Antonio Gibson.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: No did he he brought it. It's like steps he
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: got down again. I just walking down scanning.
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: But yeah, Bourne was not gonna do anything. But uh,
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: Antonio Gibson, I have not seen. But he did have
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: a helmet, had a helmet when he I got him.
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: I got him. So yeah, Antonio Gibbs, it looks like
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: he was ready to go. We are ago on Antonio Gibson.
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: Now that he's actually participating in drills, he has to
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: off NFI, so he's he's good to go. It looks
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: like so that's good news.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: That's a good little yeah, good little bump. What about
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: taki taki? Guys, realize we're ten days away from the
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: first preseason.
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: That's right around the corner.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: We only got nine more trade practices. It's going by quick.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So this will be our last live coverage from
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: practice except for when the Eagles come and we have
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: the joint practice. We'll come back up here on our
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: perch and we'll cover that joint practice live. This week,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: we go back to our normal Tuesday Thursday schedule for
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Patriots Unfiltered. We'll start it at one thirty every day
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: as long as you know, because practice at eleven, so
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: we'll we'll go live with Patriots Unfiltered on Tuesdays and
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Thursdays at one thirty unless they changed the practice times,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: which I don't think they will.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: But although Gerard Meo said yesterday, you know, he wants
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: to kind of keep.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Things fluid and and see how things are going. But
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: I think they're going to stick to this eleven o'clock time,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: So one thirty Tuesdays and Thursdays going forward with Patriots Unfiltered.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's probably a pretty safe bet yep, yeah.
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: Just because I have to shamelessly plug Catch twenty two
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: will be after unfiltered on Thursdays.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: You don't have to have any shame that actually just
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: do it.
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah, for one, thirty to three thirty will probably be
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: like four to six ish Catch twenty two.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: There's no shame in that at all.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: No shame, Nope, you should be proud of it.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: Well he did say it was a shameless but oh right,
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: I just like, yeah, no shame, right right right, completely devoid.
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: While they're doing the positional drill stuff. Can we circle
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: back to the quarterbacks thing real quick? Because you know
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: the importance of the quarterback. I do think you have
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: examples in San Francisco in Detroit of two teams that
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: came about as close as you possibly could last year
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: without having the superstar quarterback.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: So it's possible. It's possible.
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: You have to have an absolutely loaded roster in every
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: other facet around the quarterback. And you know, maybe Goff
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: and Prettier are better than we give them credit for,
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: or I give them credit for, certainly in Purdy's.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: Case, pretty for sure. But you think GoF is okay?
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah, GoF is okay when he's running play action. Yeah,
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: but yeah, no doubt, but it is possible. But those
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: two teams drafted at the top of the draft for
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: many years and hit on a lot of draft picks,
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: you know, and then that's how they were able to
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: build that up. And that wasn't overnight for either one
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: of those teams. But it is possible to maybe not
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: get to the top where Malmes is, but you can
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: definitely get shoot a Super Bowl championship game. And you know,
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: we don't know what Jalen Hurts is going to be either,
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: and the Eagles were just there two years ago too,
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: so it's possible.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: It's funny you mentioned him. I saw some stuff that
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: they were doing on on ESPN and they had South
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: Pale at at Philadelphia, and I think that there is
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: really such a huge unknown with Jalen Hurts. Yeah, like
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: is he the guy that played two years ago or
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: did they kind of figure him out a little bit
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: and maybe they don't want him to run anymore. Evan
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: always calls it the superpower. Yeah, you know, without that,
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: maybe he's just sort of average because he wasn't really
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: great last year from start to finish. I mean, they
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: still make a great but he wasn't playing great.
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: I also feel like.
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: The locker room was lost at some point because you
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: start off your season went eight and one, and then
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: the way they ended the season, it just did something
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: seemed awesome.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Was not happy.
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they The thing with Jalen Hurts at the Eagles too,
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: is just listening to other people that watched their film
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: a lot closer than I do. Their their playbook on
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: offense got stale really quickly when Stichen left for Indianapolis
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: and they were running, you know a lot. Ski was
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: weekly killing them for running like the same five plays
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: all the time. Now, I don't know if that's just
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: the lack of creativity on their coaching staff or if
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: they don't feel like Jalen Hurts can handle more than
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: what they're running. Two years ago, that stuff was all
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: new and fresh and took the league by storm. And
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: then the league adjusts and they didn't do a great
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: job from a schematic standpoint of adjusting to the adjustment.
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: So maybe they have another thing up their sleeve. But
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: when you look at their offense, Stichen might have been
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: the mad scientists behind the scenes. And now he's in
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: Indianapolis and the Colts were a good offense last year
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: with him. Given their situation, I would say they're pretty
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: solid offensively with Gardner Minshew, so he might be a
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: really good coach.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Going back to the Tour conversation, Kelly writes in the
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Dolphins giving two of that contract this year doesn't matter
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: at all. People keep saying their big three take up
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: forty percent of the cap, but that is this year's
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: cap and current cap is irrelevant because it's July and
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: the Dolphins won't lose money picking their roster unless they
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: choose to do so. Next year, the cap goes up
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: again and it will be thirty percent of the cap,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: which isn't bad at all.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not really as much fixated on the actual
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: numbers as I am, just this notion that locking up
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: a quarterback who has had success for you somehow helps
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: the opponents.
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I'm you know what I mean?
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Like to me, it's not about like I think, even
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: like the the most staunch defender of like how important
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: the cap is would admit given a quarterback a huge
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: salary nowadays is not a prohibitive of success. So I
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: don't really understand how you can.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: Come up with that to me, it's just it's a
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: loser mentality to focus on the cap is what's going
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: to save the Patriots and get them back.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: In the conress.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: And they weren't really even talking about the cap. They're
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: just like, well two is there, so don't worry about
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Miami anymore.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: Well there's any time you're talking about money and oh
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: too many guys, they're getting too much and it's gonna
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: you know, like it's just this team needs talent, and
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: then you know, worry about yourself, like Evan said, and
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: I just I think part of it too when we
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: talked about it yesterday with with with Drake May of
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: of kind of the great unknown of how he is
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: in the clutch, and like that's that's the ultimate kind
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: of Trump card, is if you have a quarterback like
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady that you're never out of it.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: You're never out of it.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: And if your team was within striking distance, you're down
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: by ten points in the fourth quarter like the other
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: team is sweating.
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: And how many.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: Quarterbacks do you really truly feel like that way about?
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: Like I think there's a handful, but that's I think
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: what makes these guys truly truly special is that ability
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: in the clutch, And that's what I think that's why
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: Mahomes has those those those super bowls. I mean, it's,
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: you know, regardless of the pieces beyond beyond be around
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: him and you know, supporting him, he's able to just
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: make it work. And that's you know, how Brady was too,
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: And that's I think the ultimate hope is that you
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: feel fine paying a guy these huge contracts if you
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: truly believe that he's one of those guys that we're
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: never we're never going to be out it with this guy.
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I feel that way yet with
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: two or you know, with Jordan Love, but that to
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: me is like the pinnacle of quarterback when you believe
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: truly that you're never out of a game because that
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: guy is just so good. Even if he's having a
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: down game, you know he's going to put a drive
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: together at some point.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: So just one observation, I was watching a little bit
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: of a walk through before they broke into position drills,
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: and the offensive line was the same one we saw
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: on Friday. Caden Wallace at left tackle, chooks a corps
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: for a right tackle. The interior three have been the
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: same all four days. So maybe this is a yeah,
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: I a step that they might want to get a
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: little bit longer off. A look at the rookie Wallace
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: at left tackle.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: If I had to make a bet, I'd say that
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: that's the five.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, what do you think is the best
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: for the team, Like, I mean just in terms of contracts,
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: young guys, old guys.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: You know where's the guys? What is the best guys?
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: But yeah, well I know that, but but what do
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: you like? Is it best for this team? If Caden
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: Wallace is your left tackle?
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: The shaw and they kind of yes, is he the
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: best left tackle? That would be the best, That would
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: be the best for the team. If he was the best,
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: I would rather him play right tackle. I think they're
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: close to what I would.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Rather you So, what have you seen when he plays
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: left tackle?
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: Well, he's never played left.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, so why are you saying that I'd rather see
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: him play right.
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: Because I would rather Chookes be a stopgap for a
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: year at left tackle.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: No, I'd rather Kayden Wallace to establish himself at left
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: tackle and surprise everyone say, wow, this guy can play
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: left tackle.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: The only reason he didn't do it?
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: You guys are arguing two different things. Yeah, and you're
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: both right. You were saying is right, But I don't
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: think that's what Evan's talking.
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: I would rather Kayden Wallace started at right tackle and
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: that way there when you go into the draft next
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: year and Will Campbell staring right at you from LSU,
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: all you're doing is dropping the left tackle in and
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: the rather other four guys have played a whole season
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: together in the same configuration. So when you go into
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: twenty twenty five and you would have from left to
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: right the rookie City David Andrews, Mike On went who
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: Caden Wallace and like that, you build up the continuity
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: that way. And if these two young tackles that are
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: in college right now, Will Campbell and Calvin Banks who
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: plays for Texas, if those two guys are as good
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: as everybody thinks they're gonna be, then next year you
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: would have a really, really solid But to get this.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Guy, you're gonna have to use a high draft pick
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Will Campbell, Right.
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think that that's gonna be difficult.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: I would, I would, but I would rather have Caden
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Wallace established himself with left tackle, whether a corps force
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: here next year or not. I don't know, but I'd
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: rather have to replace a right tackle, not have to
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: use a high first round pick on it, and get
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: that WR one or the best defensive player on the pool.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: That's what you're like saying, Like you hold Wallace is like,
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: I hope he's the guy a really solid starting caliber
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: left tackle, like I think, like right, yeah, but again,
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: he played left tackle like I think Evan's looking at
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: It's like, that's probably not going.
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: To be the case.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: A lot of like really good college left tackles play
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: right tackle as rookies. Yeah, you're asking this guy to
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: do the opposite. You're asking him to do the hotter
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: thing that he's never done. I'm not asking they are, no,
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: but that's like yeah, but I also do I'm hoping
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: if that Yeah, Like that's why I said, Look, what
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: you were saying is right, Like that would be awesome.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Now I don't even have to take a tackle next year.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: But that's Josh Allen. I'm trying.
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: I just feel like they Candon Wallace has a better
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: chance of being a starting caliber right tackle. Then he
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: does a left tackle and chooks the corps four, holds
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: it down for a year you get into this transition period.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: A CORPS four holds down left tackle, right.
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and then next year you're at the top of
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: the draft picking the tackle and if you just look
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: at how the board is going to shape up, and granted,
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: things can change in the fall, but the expect is
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: that Will Campbell and Calvin Banks are going to be
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: two of the top prospects in the entire.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Draft, not just that tack Listen, I've been preaching that
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: we need to have patience with this offense because it's
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: starting from scratch, and obviously we're talking about Drake may.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: You're right about that.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: I'd be willing to have patience. See what Caden Wallace
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: could do what left tackle for three, four five games
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: this year. If it's not working out, okay, then we
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: make the switch. And I understand that you know you
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: want the continuity, but we need to be patient with
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: all aspects of the offense this year.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: Bright.
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: I like what you just said about preaching patients, because
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: I think that's exactly what Elliot Wolf and Drod Mayo
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: have been saying in terms of like dropped and developed,
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: and maybe they look at Kaden Wallace and they're like Okay,
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: we drafted this guy, now let's start him, and he's
• 35:45
  Speaker 8: going to develop all season long. It may not be
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: pretty all season long, but at least like maybe a
• 35:49
  Speaker 8: year of him starting at left tackle could mean a
• 35:53
  Speaker 8: lot of production for the future.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: For me, I hear what Evan's saying, though, there's like
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: just a certain security and saying, Kaden Wallace played right tackle,
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: He's gonna play right tackle on the pros. We feel
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: good about him playing right tackle, and we can just
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: focus on the left side, you know, next year rather
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: than right. Well, Katon Wallas did a pretty good job
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: on the left side. Now we're gonna flip him back
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: over to the right side then next year, Yeah, he does.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: It's more at a certain dey. I'm saying, do it
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: during the season.
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: That's my concern is that it's a lot of moving
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: parts and Caden Wallace has never played left tackle before,
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: so you're asking him to climb a mountain and just
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: doing that in itself no offense to chooks the corps for.
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: But if he's kind of got to fall on that
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: sword for a year and play the left side, then
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: it's kind of like Jacoby Bris said at quarterback right.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: It's like, say, Evan is you know, you say it's
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: like climbing him mountain. For some people it is, maybe
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: for him it won't be.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know, and i'd like to see.
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: I just know that there's a lot of people that
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: not only didn't think that Caden Wallace was a left tackle,
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: they didn't think Kaden Wallace was a tackle. Like there's
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: a lot of people that thought that he's projected best
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: inside at guard. So now you're asking him to play
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: the left side. It's just a lot and I would
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: just much rather I worry for him too in his development,
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: Like if you throw him in that left tackle and
• 37:08
  Speaker 7: it's just he's taking on water, Like, what's the point
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: in that in his development? Like he now all of
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: a sudden he's going to be derailed and you just
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: blew a top one hundred pick.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: What's the next time we get to talk to Scott Peters?
• 37:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, probably soon, But don't you think, like, especially when
• 37:24
  Speaker 8: you look at a guy like City Sow and how
• 37:26
  Speaker 8: he was kind of thrown into the fire, that now
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: he's better for it.
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: Because he was he got Yeah, absolutely, but he was
• 37:31
  Speaker 7: playing his natural position.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I so so they actually tried to do that
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: with him and it was a disaster. Yeah, they tried
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: to do some tackle stuff with him last year, to
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Evan's point, Yeah, and then they moved him back inside
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: where he was sort of had more experience. I have
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: a this.
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: Isn't you know. When I've had conversations with Dante Scarnekia,
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: he always talks about continuity being like his big thing, right.
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: He wanted if it was up to him, they would
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: start training camp day one with their starting five. And
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: obviously injuries and all that stuff make it impossible, but
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: they would go through the whole year with the same
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: five guys to build up continuity, even if that isn't
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: necessarily what we think is the best five on paper,
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: that is what they would want to do. And I
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: just feel like the last couple of years along the
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: offensive line, and granted, injuries has a big part of it,
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: but they're just constantly shuffling. You know, there's constantly guys
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: in and now there's constantly you know, different configurations and
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: things like that, and I would just like to see
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: it settle down a little bit in.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: That wallace on your screens right now, if you're interested.
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: I mean I think that started with Bill not managing
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: this roster appropriately. I mean Mac Jones after his rookie year,
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: like how did you let those two guys just.
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: Walk out the door?
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: It started with Joe Toney.
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, even going farther back, but even like Mac Jones, like,
• 38:45
  Speaker 8: why couldn't you just sign those guys and keep those
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: guys instead of letting them.
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: Walk out the door? I mean, his year is the best,
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: the last time the line was actually solid, Yeah, exactly,
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: and you had the chance to keep those guys and
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: you let them walk.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: And I know we're talking about the two most important
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: offensive line positions, tackle, but I do feel some confidence
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: that interior seems to be a little bit settled now.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: The problem, though, is David Andrews didn't get it any younger.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: At some point, you're going to need a new center,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: and it's probably sooner than later.
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, that's a good point. But I am feeling
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: more confident about what they did in the interior because
• 39:20
  Speaker 7: on when he was gonna most likely play guard, which
• 39:23
  Speaker 7: is where I feel like he's at his best, and.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Well, he's your Joe Toney. He can he can in
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: a pinch, he can play tackle.
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but he's gonna that interior three should be solid,
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: and it's it's manageable if you have one week link
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: on the offensive line and if that, if that interior
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: is solid for you all year long, then you can
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: build around that. Then that's something that you can work
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: off of. So it's not that it's a complete disaster
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: yet or anything like that. I just I wonder why
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: they would want. Essentially, what I view it as is
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: like you're playing a rookie at a position. Yeah, with
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: Caden Wallace a left tackle, I'd rather play the veteran
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: out a position in Chukes a korps for who isn't
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: necessarily a part of the long term plan anyway. It's
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: it's it's similar to the situation at quarterback, like Jacoby
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: Brissett might have to go out there and take some
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: licks so that Drake May doesn't have to. And that's
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: kind of the what.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Do you think will know by like, Okay, that's.
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: The five I think the joint practices.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 40:18
  Speaker 8: I keep saying that about even with Drake May, I
• 40:21
  Speaker 8: feel like that's the moment where like if he's going
• 40:23
  Speaker 8: to be competitive and take the spot over, it's going
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: to be that moment.
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: I'm not saying the start, I.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: Was thinking the same thing.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: But I also want to use that joint practice to
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: see some things because now I'm going against the team
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: that's really trying, you know, not to say that they're
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: not in practice, but you know what I mean, yep.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: And and so i'd like to experiment a little in
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: that situation too. So I'm thinking maybe it won't be
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: until third preseason game, you know, I.
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: Would hope they would know that I'm with you to Mary,
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: like that's that to me is too late, Like now
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: I feel like you're in trouble. But I just this
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: line is already a big question mark for a lot
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: of us, I think, just from a talent standpoint, a
• 41:04
  Speaker 7: personnel standpoint, and we still don't really know what the
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: coaching is going to bring either. So I would just
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: rather everybody just play where they belong, you know, and
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: that way there you at least are building off of
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: that from square one, and eventually you have to to
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: solidify something here and tomorrow they're gonna put the bads on,
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: and I'd like to see it happen as soon as tomorrow.
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: Where we're just we're committed, we're rolling with these five.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: One other thing I think, and that's hard to project,
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: is that if a CORP four plays left tackle this
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: year and he plays, okay, he's on a one year deal,
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: he's gonna get paid next year, Like they're gonna have
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: to figure out, you know, do they do they want
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: to pay him again? And what if he's good enough
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: that you're not in position to draft Will Campbell? You know,
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: and now some other Now other teams are going to
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: get involved, and maybe you don't feel like this guy's
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: not going to be the left.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: As whether it's Will Campbell or the next best guy,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: the Patriots will be in position to get a good
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: left tackle if they want to use it in the
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: first round.
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah. So you know, Campbell right now is is considered
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: a stud, you know, but Joe Alt was considered a
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: stud too and he ended up going fifth. So it's
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: not like it's a guarantee that he's going to go
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: in the top three or anything like that. But without
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: this being a quarterback heavy draft, that would be that
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: would be the projection right now.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: I would just love to not have to go into
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: the draft thinking, okay, we have to use the first round.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, left tack, right right. I don't think that they
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: would have to, but like why not, Like, I mean,
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: I think you could, but I don't think you have to.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: I think you could easily make an argument for a
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: wide receiver too, right, But you have to something else.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: Edge Rusher.
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why you know. I gave you.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: I gave you something else.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: But if the defense, but if the tax, if the
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: offensive line isn't good this year and it's because of
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: the tackles you're going to have to have.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: That probably forces your hand right right.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: But I'm I'm hoping that we're excited about Drake May.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: He's going to be the guy, and next year is
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: going to be about filling in pieces around him to
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: make this offense even better.
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean the receivers in this class, I haven't
• 43:02
  Speaker 7: done deep dives into any of them, but Luther Burden
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: is like the consensus number one receiver in the class
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: coming up. But he's not considered to be neighbors Harrison
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: and the duneesay like he's probably more considered on that
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: lower tier you're like not quite two years ago, like
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: probably a little bit better in the middle somewhere there.
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: So you know, he's a good player. And he is
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: more of like that. I would compare him maybe to
• 43:25
  Speaker 7: like a move piece, like he's not an X, like
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: a true X. You know, he's gonna be somebody that's
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: gonna move around the formation and do some different things
• 43:32
  Speaker 7: for you. And he's dynamic and he's an explosive athlete.
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: But I just don't necessarily I guess maybe I prioritize
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: the left tackle a little bit higher, Like I would
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: much rather get the receiver in the veteran market, like
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: I'll get Brandon Aiyuk or T Higgins or whatever, and
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: I would take the tackle.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, like, you don't necessarily have to
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: do you prioritize it however you see fit.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: That was my only point, Mike and bill Rickin is
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: my seventh training camp since I turned since I start
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: to go into Patriots camp, and I turned it into
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: an annual birthday tradition.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Thrill to be here, especially with the shade today. Weighing
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: in on the Wallace conversation, I'm with Evan on this one.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: I want us to put our players in the best
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: possible position to successfully develop. I do think Wallace is
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: out of position at left tackle. Also, Wow, Joe Milton
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: throws the ball effortlessly. I'm all in on Mail, but
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: I'm excited.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: To see the Bazuka on May, I should say, but
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: I'm excited to see the Bazuka unleashed.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: Sorry, Paul, I hate to get the back flop. I
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: think he has one of the best times I've ever seen. Ever.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: You don't have to yeah, I mean like l way
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: like yeah.
• 44:41
  Speaker 8: I have a question, Paul. Do you think that it's
• 44:44
  Speaker 8: too late to learn how to properly train that type
• 44:47
  Speaker 8: of arm or do you think that was something that
• 44:50
  Speaker 8: should have been done.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know. I'm just going off of
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: his college career was bad. It wasn't even like not good,
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: it was bad. Yeah, luck too. I mean, he's just
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: he didn't play a lot. I don't know.
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: I mean Ryan Ryan Mallet kind of had similar questions,
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: didn't he When he came in and he just had
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: an absolute cannon.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: But you know, it's like it's like the wild Stallion.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: You know, you gotta you have to train? Was that
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: Wild Stallions from h Yeah? From Ryan was a lot
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: better in Arkansas that Joe Milton was.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: Sure, Yeah, for sure, But but I don't think he
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: ever really found the touch right that he needed.
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: The Tennessee tape is just it's just not good.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: And so I've had a lot of people, you know,
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: and I listen, I'm no college football expert. I don't
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: I don't pretend to watch these games and break him down.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: But I've had a lot of people reach out to
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: me from that area and send me clips of the
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: different things that got him in trouble a lot, and
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: I just I'm not sure I didn't. Some guys just
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: aren't quarterbacks. I think he's a great athlete.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure he's a quarter I think I mean,
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: I think it's and it might just to me be
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: more processing than trying to figure out how to the
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: short passes. It's I mean, that's what stood out to
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: me from OTAs was that look great seven on seven.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: But then once there was a defense doing some confusing
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: stuff that he didn't know what they were going to do,
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: he looked a little bit more unsure where to go
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: with the ball, and you know, a little rushed. And
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: then but we all know the mechanics get messed up
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: from our.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: Physical from the physical study point, you watch the guy
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: and it's just case it can't.
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: That's why I kind of feel like as a backup quarterback,
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: it's not it's never a bad thing to have your
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: backup quarterback have a trait that is just stands alone.
• 46:31
  Speaker 7: You know. Maybe some people would rather have, you know,
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: someone that can come in, like Chase Daniel that can
• 46:37
  Speaker 7: just come in and keep you in games and things
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: like that. But at the same time, if you want
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: to have a backup quarterback, that's the opposite where it's like, okay, well,
• 46:45
  Speaker 7: if he has to get into a game, at least
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: we know we can throw it a mile, like, you know,
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: you have that call for you, right, so I don't know,
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: you can go out with it.
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: Almost it almost makes me wonder what it would have
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: been like if you know the situation where like it
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: wasn't twenty sixteen where all of a sudden the third
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: string rookie quack just had to get thrust into it and.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: It was him and it was like we're just running
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: four verts every.
• 47:05
  Speaker 7: Time, you like basically what tennessee, Yeah, we talked about
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: Pop Douglas for a second, because has he been popping
• 47:13
  Speaker 7: for you? No, this is just super weird, like what's
• 47:15
  Speaker 7: going on with him? So Earlier he was he was
• 47:18
  Speaker 7: fielding kickoffs. Now he's going through positional drills with the
• 47:22
  Speaker 7: receivers and catching passes. The point that I made on Yeah,
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: and then we get to team and he's just off
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: to the side, not participating. I don't know what the
• 47:30
  Speaker 7: injury is or what it is, but he looked. You
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: watch him run around and he's running five Do you.
• 47:36
  Speaker 8: Think that there is fear that there could be contact
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: though in some of those team drills, because you know,
• 47:41
  Speaker 8: sometimes they get bumped and you fall. Do you do
• 47:43
  Speaker 8: they just want to avoid that altogether?
• 47:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know. I'm just I'm not saying that.
• 47:47
  Speaker 7: It's like, I'm not trying to go all tinfoil hat
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: on anybody and say it's some conspiracy, but just weird.
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: It's just odd that he's seems to be doing something.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: I can understand.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: I can understand them not rolling out the gadget plays
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: with him yet, but you would think you'd want to
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: have him just doing the normal team drills with wide
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: receivers because he needs the practice too, you know. So
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm trying to imagine what he trying
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: to imagine what injury would keep him from doing all
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: wide receiver drills, but then not do it when you
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: do team.
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: I thought there's no way. Almost I feelt there's no
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: way it could be hand because if it had then
• 48:28
  Speaker 7: you wouldn't be fieldinges.
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: I will say too, I think it's been kind of
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: noticeable without his presence within there's not a lot of
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: pop in the in the receiver room to begin with,
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: but his quickness, his change in direction, it's it's.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: Unique in this group.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Well when they do that little you know, angling tackling
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: drill like he's you know, he's on a different level
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: than most of the guys, the sudden change of direction.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: But he'd be a nice piece to see.
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: I think we're also used to that kind of role
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: being highly productive in the old system.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: You know, how much is it going to fit into
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: this new system?
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: You know, is is that you know, slot guy's still
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: really going to be as big of a piece as
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: it kind of was with the Josh McDaniels offense.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, going back to Dante, you gotta have
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: that banky. Yeah, it's either your tight end or a
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: slot guy.
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: Usually it's just it's just how much is he is
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: he going to play? Like when it's you know, I
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: clearly third long. Yeah, he's going to be out there,
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: but you know, conventionally in time and on rhythm the
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: offense is in you know, in structure, like.
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: Is I just I don't know, I don't know where
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: he fits into the type of scheme that they at
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: least want to run on paper on first down. Like
• 49:38
  Speaker 7: that's the biggest thing to me is that if you
• 49:40
  Speaker 7: want to be a run first offense and build the
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: play action off of it, are you really going to
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: have one hundred and eighty pound receiver is like one
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: of your two wide receivers on the field and like
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: a twelve personnel. No, You're probably gonna want to have
• 49:51
  Speaker 7: guys that can block and can throw their weight around
• 49:53
  Speaker 7: a little bit. And that that's why I wonder if
• 49:55
  Speaker 7: his role is more third down yeah, two minute minute
• 50:00
  Speaker 7: like you know in the game situations obvious passing downs
• 50:03
  Speaker 7: like things like that, and that might like disappoint some people.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if that's the case.
• 50:08
  Speaker 7: But when you got out there first and ten from
• 50:10
  Speaker 7: the twenty five, you know is and you have to
• 50:12
  Speaker 7: ask somebody to you know, block the nickel, Like are
• 50:15
  Speaker 7: you really going to ask Pop Douglas to be the
• 50:16
  Speaker 7: one that's doing.
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: That, whereas with like Polk, like maybe not the burner
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: or the sudden, but like got the size.
• 50:22
  Speaker 7: And it's no coincidence to me that that Polk and
• 50:25
  Speaker 7: Baker both have some size to them and when they
• 50:28
  Speaker 7: drafted those guys, I think you look at these West
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: Coast offenses and these coaching trees. You look at San
• 50:34
  Speaker 7: Francisco with a Yuke and Debo, and you look at
• 50:37
  Speaker 7: the Packers, Watson, Dobbs, like those guys are bigger guys,
• 50:41
  Speaker 7: you know, the Rams, Cooper, Cup, Hohoka, Nakua. That's the
• 50:44
  Speaker 7: type of body type that they tend to go after.
• 50:48
  Speaker 7: And uh and that definitely is what Baker and polkar.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Sun's starting to poke through again.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: Dang it. It was really nice that an.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: Nice reprieve for a little bit, But here comes the sun.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: I'm not complaining though. Summer is too short, right.
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: It seems like this week's going to be a little
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: up and down with the weather too, so it might
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: be a little wet out there tomorrow for pads.
• 51:12
  Speaker 7: So twenty five twenty US after the first quarter against Serbia,
• 51:18
  Speaker 7: for people that.
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: Care, Okay, Serbia is good. Thank you, Scott Hansome.
• 51:22
  Speaker 7: Jason Tatum has yet to play in the game to play,
• 51:26
  Speaker 7: yet to play in the game. So do you think
• 51:29
  Speaker 7: they're they're saving him? I think Steve Kurse stinks and
• 51:32
  Speaker 7: it's actually going to get me fired up, So I
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: think we should move on, you want?
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah.
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: The Douglas thing, to me is is different.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: I know that Mark Daniels reported a hand, and Mayo
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: sort of confirmed that he was dealing with something that
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: wasn't serious and was considered day to day, But it
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: is hard to imagine it's a hand.
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: When he's catching the ball as much as he is.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well you don't want to speculate player.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: No, at least he's out here.
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, but he looks great. I mean he's flying
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: around like he always does.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we said we did see Mapu walk walk out.
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: You know that's another you know, disappointing one. Just guys
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: first second year, Yep, they start missing practices. It's like, man,
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: how how is he going to crack this lineup? With
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: Jalen Hawkins making a push, Pepper's and Duggar are now
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: secure and kind of what their roles are.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: Going to be.
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: You know, Mapu It's just he needs an opportunity and
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: he needs to take advantage of it.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: And right now, I'm just I'm just not really sure
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: where that's going to come other than special teams.
• 52:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I will hardly agree with you bringing up Mapu.
• 52:39
  Speaker 7: I'm glad you did, because you cannot. He has to
• 52:42
  Speaker 7: be out there, like, he's got to be a guy
• 52:44
  Speaker 7: that that cars out a role for himself. And right now,
• 52:48
  Speaker 7: you know, he can't make the club from the tub, right,
• 52:50
  Speaker 7: So obviously a guy that you wish was out there.
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: And you know, you wonder if there was an opportunity
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: there for him too, because Taki Taki's been on PUP
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: and you know, we talk about him. Is he a safety?
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: Is he a linebacker? We've seen almost all safety, but
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: that's the kind of linebacker he could be.
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: Is that that mold that Mac Wilson was, And Taki
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: Taki figures to be an athletic guy, maybe in sub
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: packages and whatnot, you know, closer to the line of skimmage.
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: But you know, neither one of them have been out here.
• 53:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I was hoping that, you know, we're talking about
• 53:22
  Speaker 7: this a little bit on Catchway two with Matt Mapu.
• 53:25
  Speaker 7: I was kind of hoping that they might look at
• 53:27
  Speaker 7: him as like almost like a big nickel because when
• 53:31
  Speaker 7: they usually go to nickel, like it's gonna be Marcus
• 53:33
  Speaker 7: Jones or Jonathan Jones and they just don't have a
• 53:35
  Speaker 7: ton of size and screen and they haven't had a
• 53:38
  Speaker 7: ton of size there in years, you know, Miles Bryant's
• 53:40
  Speaker 7: been in there or whatever, and it would be nice to,
• 53:43
  Speaker 7: you know, when you play these Shanahan Tree teams, you know,
• 53:45
  Speaker 7: like the Dolphins and things like that, when they come
• 53:48
  Speaker 7: out heavy on first down, to have a player like
• 53:50
  Speaker 7: a Mapu who could cover the slot, cover a tight
• 53:53
  Speaker 7: end and and be able to hold up against the
• 53:55
  Speaker 7: run and not necessarily allow Mike McDaniel to just target
• 53:59
  Speaker 7: Marcus Owns and Jonathan Jones in the corners in the
• 54:02
  Speaker 7: run game. Even Christian Gonzalez is not necessarily like a
• 54:05
  Speaker 7: physical guy. And I've seen that in the last couple
• 54:08
  Speaker 7: of years with those Shanahan Tree teams that that tends
• 54:11
  Speaker 7: to happen at times, and you'd like to see Maphu
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: maybe carbon or role like that.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: There was is that Milton who just skied one as Jacobe,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: Is this the first day we've had overflow onto the
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: ramps with the fans.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: I believe.
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: So yeah, it's definitely very Uh, it's a good crowd today,
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: trout today, Sunday, Sunday fun day.
• 54:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, let's bring your mom to birthday.
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: And your grandma and my grandma.
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: Nobody's got a better seat than them sitting in the view.
• 54:45
  Speaker 7: I couldn't put them out there and beat Drake made
• 54:48
  Speaker 7: a Jay bom baker against air.
• 54:52
  Speaker 9: Well.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: On fairness, they haven't haven't hit them all against their
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: so far, so it's a little concerning.
• 54:57
  Speaker 7: It is funny watching these quarterbacks throw again there because
• 55:01
  Speaker 7: you know, guys like Drink May and Joe Milton are
• 55:04
  Speaker 7: obviously it's such a different look than Mac and Bailey's appy.
• 55:08
  Speaker 7: It can's there, but the accuracy isn't always there. But
• 55:11
  Speaker 7: the ball comes out faster, you know.
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: No, it's it's so nice not to every time you
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: see him throwing a deep out like gauging the speed
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: of it. It's just every it's it's like, look, I
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: don't know if it's going to be right where it
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: needs to be every time.
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: But he's got people.
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, both those guys got the arm.
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: Let's see. Patrick writes in a little bright. So a
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: couple of things I want to throw out there. First,
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: I was wondering which of the four quarterbacks has the
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: biggest reaction from the crowd when they've taken the field
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: for this camp.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: I think they're all about the same.
• 55:44
  Speaker 7: Honestly, I feel like the biggest cheer I've heard so
• 55:46
  Speaker 7: far is for Judon, not a quarter.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: Right, and Fred, I love you, You're the king of
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: Patriots media, but I couldn't disagree with you more. Regarding
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: the left tackle position, if you want to stud at
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: that position, you have to draft him, and more often
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: than not, draft them high. Usually the guys have become
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: available via free agency, usually have injury concerns or the
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: middle of the road players. And I remember Paul saying
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: something like, if you have a good player at that position,
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: why would you trade them when I called in and
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: proposed trading for Orlando Brown.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: A few years ago.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: If their prognostic cators are correct and we ended up
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: picking top five, again, go get that stud left tackle.
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: But you know, okay, so everybody's.
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: Definition, Jalens just become a high from who Jacobe bressetting
• 56:41
  Speaker 7: one on one's go ball to Jalen Rager and his
• 56:44
  Speaker 7: eazy hearns having a tough tamp.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: Oh right, mister, But you know everyone's definition of stud
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: is different. But I think you know, you can get
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: a good left tackle and it doesn't have to be
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: Orlando Brown or you know, Tyrone Smith and you can win.
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: Oh well, that's that was beautiful. Great throwing catch from
• 57:07
  Speaker 7: Drake made a Kaishan Boody on Christian Gonzalez.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, really strong.
• 57:11
  Speaker 7: Catch by Booty and a dropping in the bucket throw
• 57:14
  Speaker 7: on a go route.
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: Thornton got some separation ball behind him, still makes the Yeah,
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: that was twenty nine I think pulld h Yeah, nice catch.
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: That's some separation though there from Thorny.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's a nice catch on this field. Zappi to
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: eighty eight Jahaeane Bell Jahaime Bell.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Real good.
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: He had coverage, was right there and he just focused
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: and basically took it away from the defender.
• 57:45
  Speaker 7: Drake May taking a decent amount of these.
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: Thirty field David Wallace.
• 57:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, David Wallace, that he ain't that fast.
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: Too long, You're never wrong long, David Wallace. Course, character
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: in the office. Seven, it's true. There's the Brakes on
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: and oh Man forty seven.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: All Yeah, a lot of contact there. I'm not sure
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: if the rest were here that wouldn't get a flag.
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: We're back at the top of the order here one
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: verse thirty Henry smokes Jabrill Pepper.
• 58:20
  Speaker 7: Sorry, dude, that's going to get a No.
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: That's a good separation there from one over thirty one.
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: That's a good win for him.
• 58:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah, those are the types of routes to that highlighted.
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: Expect a ton of those from Jal and Paul crossing
• 58:34
  Speaker 7: route over the middle. That's his bread and butter.
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: Joe and Baker trying to get on as easy and miscommunication.
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: He wanted them to do the comeback.
• 58:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: So this is one thing that sort of surprised me
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: that we haven't seen much else until today, and a.
• 58:54
  Speaker 7: Lot of team so far. It's nice.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: Wow ball fourteen to two obvious sideline. This is the
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: day the Patriots offense hit its stride.
• 59:04
  Speaker 7: In Some of these go balls have been beautiful.
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Drake May back in there.
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: Have you got you got Marco Wilson one against eighty
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: three greger Man.
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: He looks loose, he moves Man.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: Wide open, but May wasn't on the same page.
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: May overthrew him, but as an Alady threw it about
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: two feet over his head.
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: I think he did. I didn't think he was gonna juju.
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: Juju vers Gonzales. It's a little shake. Oh god, No,
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: Gonzalez was all over that one probably would have been
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: a pick.
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: If absolutely, I.
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: Thought he should have got it too juju. I mean
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: went right off the stage.
• 59:50
  Speaker 7: That happened a ton last year. Well, I'm too far
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: in front of Chasehawn Boody. But that's another good route
• 59:58
  Speaker 7: by Booty on Marcus Jones. Is that who that? Yeah,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 7: a couple of misfires there from Drake. I thought.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: A couple beats up the sideline from both guys.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah, some times off the sideline. Both quarterbacks were going.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: Now we're on the other side, all right, all right,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: river side it right.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: Wait, we learned something new this year. Last year was chalk.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: That's just chalk.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 7: I can't believe that. That was so groundbreaking.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: David Wallace, Oh.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 7: He just can't time it up with David Wallace.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: But he beat his man.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 7: It's David Wells too.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: Well, did I call him?
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you're thinking of the office guy.
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  Speaker 4: It's Wallace. His name was Wallace.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, number thirty it's a l L I s yeah, okay,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: it's a different wallace.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 7: But taekwon taekwon, of course doing very well in the
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 7: drill one and the drill with a little contact and
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 7: no pads.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: Here's an we got. It's like one got overthrown a
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: little bit there against what Sean.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: Rag and boo. I think I stood out to me.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 7: Paul, like how you brought that up? Because I feel
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 7: like Booty ended the last day of mini camp really
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 7: strong with a couple of catches.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 8: And I was wondering how he's gonna come out here
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 8: to training camp.
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  Speaker 2: England atreots. So what are we seeing?
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: One on ones.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: Continuing here with wide receivers and cornerbacks on our right field,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: and looks like a lot of linebackers and safeties and
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: tight ends and running backs on our left field. The
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: lines worked down in Dante's Inferno. We're still calling that.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: So yeah, Jamon Baker going here, h against it's a
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: bomb and right right in front of the crowd, and
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: he throws the ball into the air in celebration.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: That's what you called running underneath it and he caught
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: up to that him great adjustment, Yeah, yeah, over his
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: shoulder looking up, found it and he beat him right
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: off the line. Yeah, you know from from the go he.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 7: Was he had the step that's Mikey Victor like an
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 7: undrafted rookie. But yeah, that was a great adjustment over
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 7: the shoulders.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: Still though, this is you know, Baker Riager. I feel
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: like I made some boy.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Can't forget about it a little bit of and this
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: is what the crowd is looking for. Why gets them going,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: oh yeah yeah? Bomb passes right in front of these connections.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 7: Fred.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 8: It's also a good point too that I think one
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 8: topic that we've continually brought up throughout campus, the ability
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 8: for these wide receivers to get separation. If you've seen that,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 8: not there a little bit, not there.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 7: We haven't seen that a lot.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: But you know, to Evan's point, if you can't get
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: separation in this drill, you can't get separation.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 7: You know, take your bags and go home.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: WHOA, All right, we have to turn our cameras away
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: now because they're going into some more strategic X and
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: o's and some strategy.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't want that on camera.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 7: So Paul Evan is ready to send guys packing round.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: I know he's harsh. He's hard.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 7: If you can't get open in one on ones as
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 7: a receiver at this level, then you're in trouble.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: Right, What if the ball just keeps hitting you in
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: the hands and you can't catch it. And Juju's had
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: a couple of drops.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 8: It sounds like a Juju or DeVante Parker. It's all
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 8: we saw last year.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: I just tell you, you know, you see Born out
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: here are dancing around before practice, you know, you know,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: as they were getting ready to warm up and stuff.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: So I mean that tells me that he's probably going
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: to be ready physically at the start of the regular season.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 6: I just don't I don't know if there's a spot.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know if there's a spot for some of
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: those guys juju, but what well, that's it's it's I mean,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: that's what everything is.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: Everything in these camps, everything is, everything is everything. You
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 5: realize it from watching hard knocks that they're going to
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: go back and they're going to watch all these plays again,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: and you know, it's what you know. I think early
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: on I would have said, oh, it's just you know,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: one drop in a camp practice, but you realize all
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: this stuff counts to them, especially when you got what
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: twelve wide receivers and you know, every every drill it
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: counts for something. And some guys are making some plays
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: and other guys are are letting players.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: Go back and it's you know, they used to ask
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: Belichick about this, and I'm sure eventually the last draft
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: is like, how much patience do you have with guys
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: you know, if they if they're not doing it right away,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: how do you know that you're not giving up on
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: a guy too soon.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: It's a late bloomer. It's so tough.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: Peppers sevens. Yeah, so this is interesting with Alex Austin
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: and Marco Wilson. Is the corners to start this one.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 7: And those guys are opportunities.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's just this I think I said it yesterday.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: There's just there's been a lot of that stuff where
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: I think it's it's it's just really hard.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: To discern seven on sevens.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, seven on seven's.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 7: Got Osborne, Paul, Henry Taekwon, Thornton hermandre right up for
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 7: that's so.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: So what they're doing is they're taking what they did
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: in the last drill and now they're putting seven guys
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: on the field instead of just a corner back and
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: the receivers seeing the sideline going down the sideline again,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: these go routes back shoulders.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 7: And that was a from the slot to Jalen Polk,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 7: and the quarterbacks have got to put the ball up
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 7: higher for a guy like Jalen Pol because he's not
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 7: going to create a ton of separation on those You
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 7: gotta give him a chance to just go up and
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 7: get the ball. And a couple of these that we've seen,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 7: the timing just hasn't been quite.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: It's supposed to to. By and Bentley in the middle
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: of there set fires it in.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 7: There to see that that's gonna be where Polk's.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: Gonna win in my opinion, over the middle.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he gets matched up on it's Isaiah Bolden there
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 7: in the slot and just runs a little uh you know,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 7: return route and it gets open just quick off the line.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's good for a guy like Drake May
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 7: who loves to throw across the middle.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: That's good.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: All right, What do we got that's too tight? Looks
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: like Juju and somebody who's being directed. Yeah, Juju and Rager,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: Henry and Hooper Antonio Gibson getting some run in this.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: So that's good.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 7: Hooper, nice Hooper, nice win on Exable having a kind
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 7: of a rough rough here, all of a sudden.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: Picking on him, picking on him, Drake time.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 7: That's been a strong are for Jacoby Brissett.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: A couple of completions, four reps, and now against Drake
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: we're putting in Jonathan Jones and Christians give the rookie
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: the hell So I like this, Yeah, me too, And
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: and Marcus Jones the rookie receivers Polk and Baker out there.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 7: And isn't this the first one we've seen this because
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 7: usually he's getting the secondary guys.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's been a pretty good rotation Michael jumps
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: off that come on start and he's out, go run
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: a lap.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: Go run a lap on Mike, But yeah, I have
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: a look at him. Just run a lot. It's Gibson
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: in there too, so he's starting to get a little
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: little run.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: And then is that Pop Douglas just running Gassers there
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: down in the poor guy?
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: Coach?
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: When do I get to touch the ball? All right?
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: Back at it.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 7: Marcus Jones versus Jayvon Baker on the outside, Oh yeah,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 7: there you go again, a little slanted Jalen Polk over
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 7: the middle. That those are the that's gonna be him? Oh, Paul,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 7: If that's well, you gotta have somebody to do that.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Like I said, but I think I.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 7: Think that's definitely giving Jacoby Myers honestly, that one did. Yeah,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 7: just possession Chane Mover.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: I don't know, I mean, you know, I look, I
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: think we'll have no time for three Yeah, I don't
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: for a first down.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: I just yeah, okay, if it's third and one, yeah, okay, great.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 7: Yep, right off the line that time I just throw.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So my observation for three years now has not
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: changed on Marcus Jones. He chases a.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: Lot he's really fast, but he's always chasing from behind. Yeah,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: kJ Osborne got him right off the line on that one.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 7: I don't think that he's an outside corner, and it
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 7: is for that reason and for the size obviously, but
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 7: I think he's been pretty competitive in the slot so
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 7: far in camp, but when you put him on the outside,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 7: it's tough for him.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: Well, right now they're playing with Jones Jonathan Jones in
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: the slot and Marcus on the outside. That's what they
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: were doing. A little They might banjo this one though,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: so be stay tuned.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 6: Oh good, good.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: Good.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah. I like the stacks that they run in this
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 7: offense though, it's yeah, those two receiver stacks, and.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you missed them.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: Didn't think he had Thornton dead. I think Thornton had
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: a step on Gonzales and he kind of hesitated. I'll
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: just say that.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think we'll continue to break down ja
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: of Polk's game, but it's just involved, and I you know,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: with some of the disappointing second round receivers and first
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: round receivers I've seen in my time here that can't
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 5: get consistently involved, don't really seem to be on the
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: quarterbacks radar. At the very least, it seems like Polk's
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: probably been the most targeted guy in these team drills
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: through you know, four days. For better or worse, it
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: hasn't all looked great, but it just seems like the
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: quarterbacks do look his way.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I would agree with that. I mean, he said
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 7: the data would agree with you, just in terms of targets.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 7: I just feel like I still feel the same way
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 7: about him as I did in the draft, which is
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 7: just just not dynamic. But that's not necessarily a bad thing.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 7: Like I'm not necessarily all the way on Paul's school
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 7: this side of the street either, but he's he's going
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 7: to be the chain mover. That's like what they want
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 7: him to be. But I just don't see a lot
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 7: of dynamic movements before the catch, you know, in terms
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 7: of downfield we're out running and after the catch. But
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 7: it doesn't mean he can't be a really steady possession
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 7: receiver in the league. It's just it's just not really
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 7: there to me.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: Potential one hundred and a thousand guy.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 7: Has the ceiling. Yeah, I think that that's sort of
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 7: what you're hoping, right is is that kind of production.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: I'll take that.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: I'll be interested to see what happens when Douglas and
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 5: Bourne are out there.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: That they those are the best two receivers and they
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: haven't they haven't taken a snap.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so someone's got to get the ball through. Yeah,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: And that's kind of the bonus of it right now.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: You know, that's kind of the benefit of not having
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: those guys out there is that Poult's seen a lot
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 5: of action. I mean, he's getting a lot of reps
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 5: he's getting, you know, I think that's good.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: I think it's just a good thing. Sapp he's in now.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: Oh he's third reps I've been more.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of staring at down.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 7: But under route to eighty six, Kaywon Baker.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: Big controversy that draws playing music throughout What do.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 6: You think controversy? Someone upset about it.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: You know, some people like Bill would have never done that.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: I like it because I recognize some of the songs.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 7: And also every other team plays music throughout their practice, So.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: I've never been to another team's practice, so I could
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: tell you.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 8: Just from like being at the you know, Shrine Bowl
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 8: and just seeing how a different team operates their practice.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 8: They play music throughout even going to other people's training
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 8: camps too.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 7: You see that.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: I like it, although not it's like white noise in
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: the back. I don't even really even notice it.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 7: Also, this is not a boot camp. You don't need
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 7: to just people out here playing silence.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 6: Well, they didn't play in silence.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: They used to have loud music during team quick periods
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: every day of Belichick's tenure for twenty five years. Yeah,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: but this is the difference here. Mayo has it throughout
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: practice right, not yet, not just during the team periods.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: Oh boy, okay zig when he thought he was gonna
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: zag z happy.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: To know one. Yah. See. This is the portion when
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: when people say, like, you know, this difference, I feel
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: like it drags in between reps and in between periods
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: a little bit more.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, this was something I thought all the way back
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 7: to the spring. Just gets a little bit monotonous at times,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 7: like the pace of practice. It's a little bit slower,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 7: I think a lot of the maybe a little bit
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 7: more teaching in between.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 6: You know, there's a whole new offense.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 7: Whereas with with Bill, he typically they they would save
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 7: that for after practice. They go back and watch the
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 7: film and correct things there, whereas here it seems like
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 7: they wrap then they kind of have a pause to
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 7: make sure that the coaches can get hands on and
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 7: say what they need to say, and then they go
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 7: on to the next one.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: I like the complaining about music, though, Fred, that's a
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: new one. Oh yeahs crousing about music.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 7: Eleven.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 6: Darn that rock and roll.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah back in the eleven's here no red zone. Maybe
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: they just assume they won't get there.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 6: So yeah, nothing, no one, nothing nothing.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 7: We do have that offensive line configuration that we were
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 7: talking about earlier.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: So eleven and eleven.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 7: Now Caden Wallace at left tackle and set under center
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 7: at right.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: Big hole.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: He gone, Yeah, except Christiano.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 6: Well that's why I think he was gone.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: Oh that's good, that's good stuff, said memories of Nego Collins.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 5: It's like Marty Makus just having like, can I can
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: I just know Marty get out the field? He's like
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: he's wandering on. Can I can I get the calls?
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: Got a call? Can I get a call?
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: Here?
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 7: Uh?
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: Nice?
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 7: Bounced there by Remandre though what you want to see?
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 6: And it was a hole.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: I was being sarcastic when I said he was gone,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: But there was a there was a.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 6: Hole that four five yards.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: Defense collapsed in and the outside was wide open.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 7: That one that was kind of the pace here is
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 7: not exactly.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 6: That's Gibson that time.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 7: So much for the pace, you know, Well, I think
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 7: one guy must have fought, think's over the top. One
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 7: guy obviously thought it was live, and the other guy was.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: Like, he thinks it's a show.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 7: David Andrews, David Andrews helmet came off there. Yeah, he
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 7: might have been in the middle of that.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: That erupted quickly bad blood.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 7: Before I would call that a krewfuffle. That wasn't I
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 7: would have tried.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: Quickly broken up.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 7: I want to lay low.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: We'll have to go to the streets.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 7: For that video. Yeah, that was not just say the streets.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: That was I love what I can't. It's like my
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: favorite line, I can't. No, it's not I can't even
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: it's I can't. I just I can't, I can't and
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: I won't and I shot thank you, I spring gun
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: all right?
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 7: Check down drop by was that remondra Kevin Harris, Vin.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: Harris and it was it was a good foot over
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 5: his head, but.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, not much there.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: Still first pass of this it's yeah, not much there,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: a little high, a little drop, yeah, and a lot
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: of pressure on the passer with a booty and thorn
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 5: on the outside and juju me inside, lots of speed
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: of the slot here velgro Marcus Jones, Why does.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 7: That happen to him over and over and over. He's
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 7: got no bursts, He's got no, he's got no juice juju.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 8: It's like always bouncing off his chest, bouncing off his fingertips.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: So that was I mean, just supposed to be a
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: quick bang, you know, him right off the lines, stepping
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 5: into a slant and then Marcus Jones was right there,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: got a little hand in there too.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 7: But got the wraps on them.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a good plaint just walking off slowly.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 7: You feel bad for him, keep sitting on the ground
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 7: and he just can't get any he can't get any separation.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: Under said with to Kobe here rep Number five.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 7: About that. So that's von God really split sack and
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 7: yeah at a party at the quarterback on that one.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: So all the good feelings of those one on ones
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: are going away now that there's an actual rush.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was not much going.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 7: Won his rep Clean Dietrich Wise the back was there,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 7: but Antonio Gibson was more of a speed bump.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: I know they're not in pads, but has anyone watched
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: the line in you know how much contact there is
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: going on between D line and O line and.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: And you know if this is a fair fight, I
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 7: Definitely favors the I feel like it will.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 8: It will never be a fair fight, Fred, because this
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 8: defensive line has so much continuity in chemistry that the
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 8: offensive line just doesn't happen.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I just I mean, it's never a fair fight
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 7: at this point because it's basically like trying to guard
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 7: somebody in basketball, Like you're just shuffling your feet and
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 7: trying to stay in front of people, whereas you know,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 7: there's really no finishing.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: The blox or something to be said for the guy
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: who has the good footwork that can.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: So that's what I think it was. I think it
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: was Anderson. There might have been Calvin Anderson who said,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: you know, we really like these because we know if
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: we can do well protecting in this situation, it's going
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: to be easier, right, it can actually hit right.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: Like I'm sure the great ones still did well in
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: this situation.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 7: Absolutely, Yeah, got Calvin Anderson at left and Viderian Lowe
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 7: had right tackle. Now, so that seems to be like
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 7: the twosomes, you know, who goes where is maybe.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: A little bit so who's the interior three?
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 7: The interior three we have Nick Leverett center for Michael Jordan,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 7: and this.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 5: Center is fifty one. Yeah, fifty one, sixty four to
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 5: the right and seventy four is that I think so?
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, so sixty four was to the right or left.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 4: That's right guard, right guard? Okay, right guard?
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 6: Thanks guy, you.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: Got to develop that December depth. There you go.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 5: And what was that play that I missed a little
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: out to jam Oh I did see it? Yeah, oh
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 5: up in his now, Paul, it was average place extra
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: every point too.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: Drake made had threeload.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 7: I didn't like it.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: I can't stand it running again.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: May Yeah, that's kind of funny time when we never
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 5: seen he didn't really seem like he's even in the
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: mix really at all.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 9: Huh.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: No traded for him last year.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 7: Seemed like, oh, definitely seems like the human ass Darien Lowead.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 7: Somebody looks like jumping around, looks like sixty four sixty
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 7: four Michael Jordan right.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: No, I think is that Yeah, Marry, I can't remember
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: which one. I think seventy four is Jordan sixty Layden
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: Robinson the rookie. Yeah, he's on his way in a lap.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 7: I always get sixty four and seventy four messed it up. Yeah,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 7: that's part that needs to be fastest.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: But okay asking plate, but uh, defender was right, so
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: absolutely absolutely fact fred Sack on that play.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: But Baker was wide open. Yeah yep. So you're saying
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 4: he's got to get rid.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 6: Of that ball.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm saying Baker gets open.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I've been watching for. I haven't really
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: watched the line.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 5: I've been watching guys like Juju off the line and
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 5: which one of these guys have uh enough shimmy and
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 5: shake to get away from press coverage.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 7: I'm impressed by Javon Baker. He's got some he's got
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 7: some twitch, he's got separation ability, and that's what they need.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 5: Definitely more active day for him, just between the one
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 5: on ones and you know, even just this catch. I
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 5: haven't seen a lot of him so far, especially not on.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 7: The Osborne so well, not a whole lot going.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: Down by separation there either a lot of a lot
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: of wolf.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: That's my Alex Austin on the past, Alex Austin breaking
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 5: up on k.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: I think he's a second too slow getting rid of
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: it right right now, it's got to get rid of
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: that ball.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: So the other thing that's a little different about this team,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: period is that the whole team is over on the
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: the right fields.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, you have the two fields going at once, right.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 7: I think that one on one period might have replaced
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 7: the YEP.
• 1:23:07
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• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: Kazuka Joe's in at his first pass batted down.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: And he just had Dakway Jackson's life ended on a
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: slant that I think Jilani Tovai might have really done
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: some damage in a live situation.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: Listen, you know the offense is having its struggles today,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: but remember they're going up against the top five defense,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 4: I think it's top two, top one. Let's call it
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 4: what it is. Melton back to pass pressure everywhere.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and an actual tackle and now we've got some fun,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: a little skirmish.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: It's a fun.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's not hit each other that hard. We don't
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: have pads on. Mill went to offense, took offense at that.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: Anyone take a lap ever in this camp. Yeah, he
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: really took a lap. Yeah, he came all away.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 6: He didn't. I think Mafi took his place.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: I haven't clocked one yet.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we just saw one.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 4: We didn't.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: That was on that movement penalty.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: Well no singing, No, shouldn't do that. But like it's
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: gonna get flagg because you're you're hitting it pitch perfect Milton.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 5: Milton flushed out of the pocket and well covered.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: He's gonna just run out.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 7: They banjoed that one. Yeah, there you go. The left
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 7: hand side. They had two under routes and they switched
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 7: him in.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 5: I wish they'd tell him, like when the play's dead,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: they just throw it as far as you can, just
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 5: for and then do a back for. Just throw as
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 5: far as you can, like nothing there set a throat away,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: watch it.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 4: And that's it. No Super Bailey's appy today.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to get eyes on Van Pelt to see
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: what his reaction is.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: It's like he's taking a drink right now. Well, it's
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: uh off.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 7: To more positional work.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 5: I mean really, the the little outroutes from May to
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 5: Polk was probably in my mind when the only plays
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: the oxygute, the offense really at least passing played it,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: it looked like in.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 7: Time kind of I thought the crossing route to Javon
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 7: Baker was pretty much on time. Yeah, you know, they
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 7: ran a little uh stack on the right hand side,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 7: and they're supposed to create that that traffic and that's
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 7: not gonna hit like instantly. You know, that play takes it.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: All right, so that will take it.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 7: But uh yeah, those are the two that that I
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 7: would highlight in that eleven's period. It's good to see,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 7: you know, all jokes aside, like Jalen Polk those outs,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 7: the slants, like that's gonna be his game. Javon Baker
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 7: is gonna be a little deeper down the field. And
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 7: it kind of felt like on those back to back
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 7: reps we got a little snapshott, Yeah, doing the leveraging
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 7: open field tackling drill. Now one guy chasing and one
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 7: guy chasing him. You know, trying to tackle him in
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 7: the open field. It's good practice.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: Hang out of that ball.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, last year Pop Douglas fumbled the guy catching him
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 7: from behind, and he knew that had to Irk Bill
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 7: because that's what they do, that drill every practice.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: Lot of security and he never played again.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 7: I'm interested. What are you guys stance on that.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 8: You know, if if a guy fumbles in a game,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 8: do you want to put him back out there in
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 8: the same way that put Drake May back out there
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 8: after an interception?
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: Yes? I do?
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 7: Or do you think let's send him one or two
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 7: games and then we'll put him back out there.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 4: No. I like getting guys back out there now if
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: it becomes a habit, and then that's different than Yeah,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: you know, you got to have some you know, ramifications
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 4: for for doing it incorrectly. But like for Andre Stevenson
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 4: fumbled in his first game, you know, with the game
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 4: on the line. Oh no, actually his wasn't on me.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 4: But he fumbled in his first game and then we
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: didn't really see him for the rest of the month
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: of September, right, Yeah, bugged me. Yeah. The lesser you
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 4: know extent with Douglas last year, well, that's one thing
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 4: I used to strongly disagree with Bill about.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think any coach has to have
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 5: a philosophy about how stringing you're going to be with
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 5: younger players, because younger players are going to make mistakes,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 5: but you don't want to get them into a place
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 5: where they're afraid to make mistakes, and you got to
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 5: be tougher on veterans that you know.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: No, I think Bill would argue that for the young player,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: I do want them to be afraid to make mistakes,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: because you saw, you know, we had those behind the
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: scenes cameras sometimes in meetings and you'd hear Bill say,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: don't be that guy that loses the game. Don't be
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: the guy that ruins it for the rest of your team.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: And I think he did coach out of fear when
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: it came to turnovers.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 8: I just I don't want it to be a situation where,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 8: you know, maybe Drake May goes out and makes an interception,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 8: and then you pull them and put you back in
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 8: and then you don't see Drake May again.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: To the well, certain guys, I don't think they do that.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think even Bill would have done that if
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: he was in a position with an.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 4: Overall third pick to do that.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: I think he did it with the younger guys who
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: there were other guys to replace him. Yeah, but yeah,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: I mean Bill was all about the turnovers, all about
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: the turnovers.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: Don't beat yourself, do not beat yourself.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, and it's crazy to think too. I mean,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: that's got to It had to be pounded into mac
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: Jones's head. And then by his last year I was
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 5: turnover city.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: Because he was scrambled eggs by that.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 6: No, but I know Mike's point too.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: It's like you, yeah, you're doing it out of fear
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: and all that, and that's and that's one thing. But
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: are you're taking away a guy's ability because now they're
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 4: not playing up to their capability because all they worried
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 4: about is holding onto the ball and they are not
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: making any place.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's you know, you just you want to get
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 5: to a place where players can play loose and play
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 5: fast and they're not thinking about mistakes or you know,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 5: some special teams.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: What what.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: I think you know, going back, remember old friend running
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: back Stephen Ridley. Yes, I mean he was a good player,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: but I think he turned the ball over so much
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: that his and he was afraid to do that again.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: His running style changed.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: So that's hurt him. That needed to lose playing time
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: because he habitually fumbled, you know, as opposed to reminder
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: receivens of putting on the ground once. All right, so
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: what do we got here? Punt? I would say, they're
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: working on the punt team.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 6: Yes, let's let's.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 4: Let people know who's back there, return and rager.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 5: We got we got two three Douglas, one Osborne, Marcus
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: Jones and Jalen Polk.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 7: Got to fight the sun on this one. But this
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 7: is the first time I feel like that they've done
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 7: special teams.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they've done some technique work, but this is actual
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: team special teams and team and and and I think
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: it's probably worth noting who's the gunners because Matthew Slater
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: is no longer wearing their uniform anymore. He's playing.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: Is he coaching out there?
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 5: Then he's say we're going without gunners. Didn't want they
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 5: didn't want to tell you, dude.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I believe Matthew Slater is wearing a cut off
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 7: could he with the bucket hat?
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: Standing right next to.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 7: That's Jeremy Springer, right, So I think Jerry Jerry, and
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 7: then here's Douglas again.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: Return of them.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 8: So it's interesting to see like what they choose for
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 8: Pop Douglas to participate in and then what they choose.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 7: To pull him out of.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: Nothing competitive, no team period. I mean, could it be
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: like they the hand is okay to catch the ball,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 4: but they don't want to like hit a helmet or something.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: And then Burton, I don't know, I'm still I know,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 4: no matter what, the catching that punt doesn't make it.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense to make.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 8: And I want to go back to to Jalen Rager,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 8: you know, catching punts before him. I think Jalen Riger
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 8: his ability to play special teams and then what he's
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 8: showing us on offense as well the past couple of
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 8: days is going to give him a strong chance to
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 8: make their astar.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 4: I'd put him in the you know, after whatever you
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: want to call it.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, after ye what we saw from him in
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 5: the spring, it's just you know, he's he's showing up,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 5: and that's I think all you can really ask. It's, hey,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 5: where's this guy been? I haven't seen him make any
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 5: catches like you yeah, you know, throwing the ball to him,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 5: he's catching it. I don't know he looks. I mean
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 5: he's moving pretty well. Yeah, and I will say a
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 5: number of bombs Barrenger Bomber.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 7: Does when the bads come on. Yeah, he's a fast
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 7: received and without pass those guys typically are are really good.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 7: I mean, even Taekwan's had his moments and these practices.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 7: But I'm kind of with Paul, I guess a little
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 7: bit that you know, Marcus Jones should be the primary
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 7: return guy. Yeah, and both kickoffs and punts. But I
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 7: think there is a role for Rager on kickoff return.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And you made that point the other day about
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: there's probably gonna be two guys back. Yeah, so yep, probably.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 7: Need to and I think too.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 8: I mean not saying that Marcus Jones is gonna get
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 8: injured again, but injuries happened and he was out pretty
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 8: much a majority of last year, and so that prevented
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 8: that created an opportunity for other guys to step up
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 8: and play in that role.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: Yep. One thing we know for certain, there will be injuries.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 5: It is interesting to me though, they got Polk returning
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 5: punts like yeah.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 7: I do without him doing that, I can see that
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 7: as like it wasn't they threw back there in years ago.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 7: When you every once in a while when there's like
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 7: a rash of injuries and on the returners, you know,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 7: you get these guys ready to at least get a feel.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: For it in the summertime, and then and then you
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: say during the season, well, he returned punts during training camp,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: so he's got a little experience right.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 7: Right right, and he's sure handed and he you know,
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 7: he's got good hands and all that, but he's just
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 7: not going to add any yards, I don't.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 5: Think, certainly not the jitterbugged Marcus.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah, same thing with Osbourne, you know, the same kind
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 7: of idea.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: Christian Kolfax, California thinks that Pope reminds him of Keenan Allen.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 4: I wish.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 7: I think Keenan Allen's a little bit more explosive, a
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 7: little more dynamic route runner. I still think Tyler Boyd
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 7: Jacobe Myers, like those are the two guys that stand
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 7: out to me with him. I think that, you know,
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 7: the ceiling would be someone in a Keenan Allen mold,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 7: But that's.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 5: Just so smooth, and I don't know, he's just he's
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 5: like a route technician.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and he's here.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like Polk feels more like a physical See.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: What they're doing on that far field with the ball,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: uh loose ball trying to scoop it toward a teammate.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, was that.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 7: Kind of like down They're not using a football, they're
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 7: using like a like a volleyball.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 8: I really do not want her.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: Here comes that shade again.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 4: Good nice.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: Quarterbacks are still working on their footwork, kind of rolling
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: out its hitting a target.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 4: Lineman just down there working on lineman dance.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot of a lot of bootlegs here for
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 7: the quarterbacks, both to their arm side and to their
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 7: non arm side, the non arm side ones are It's
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 7: gonna be fun with Drake May.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: All right, that's the end of this period.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 5: It does get interesting with me though, like when the
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 5: plays break down and it's you know a lot of
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 5: guys just chuck it away, but like he doesn't seem
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 5: afraid to just you know, wing it, sidearm it.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 7: Chimp up in the air. Like I feel like I've
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 7: said this a thousand times, but we were not seeing
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 7: that kind of stuff in practice because that's not what
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 7: they want him to do in practice. And that's when
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 7: it really you know, maybe in the preseason games or something.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 7: There's a whole other dimension to his game that I
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 7: feel like we just haven't seen a ton of, because.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 4: It's been interesting if you could ask him that yesterday
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 4: instead of finding out about signing autographs in the atmosphere.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so many of his highlights are just you.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: Know, critical of the media.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: Paul I was in the middle of a question and
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 4: he was whisked away.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, I see.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 4: We're getting a team period here or some.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 5: Sort of maybe maybe yeah, but again, no no red
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: zone at all.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 7: Well maybe the idea what that is is you start
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 7: to when you put the pads on, now you can
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 7: actually run goal line. That was always a weird thing
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 7: to me about them starting in the red zone without pads,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 7: was like you're not running them, like you can't run
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 7: the ball, right.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 4: So it's they're just selling out for the past.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's like they're tracking team periods where they're
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 7: two for eleven or something terrible. Granted that was warranted
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 7: the last couple of years.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: All right, we're set on seven and seven of the two.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 4: Pop.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: It looks like they're using sticks and yard markers on
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: this one. So they're going to move the ball as
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: the play dictates.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 7: As these are. They're in third down right now, so
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 7: these are that's like third and short type of situational.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: Yep, ye build toward eleven and eleven doing the same.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 4: So yeah, one two Rager.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: Gibson and the plays broke.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah, nobody opened.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 4: Really good coverage on that one. This is like a
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: day late and short, but that was really good coverage
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 4: by everybody.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 7: He did catch it, though, It's a nice catch. Austin
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 7: Hooper got behind Kyle Duggar. I think Kyle Duggar jumped
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 7: around underneath just thinking they're going to the sticks. To
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 7: Paul's point, it took seventeen years for to make that round.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 4: It was a really nice catch though by Hooper. Yep,
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 4: that was not an easy ball to track. Good protection,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 4: you know for a tight end too. Not used to
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 4: being you know, forty plus yards downfield tracking balls over
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 4: your shoulder.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 5: Speaking of which, I saw my Kasiki made a catch
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 5: in Bengals camp.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 4: I was reminded last year a couple of catches as
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 4: he made, they never really kind of panned out.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 5: Uh also saw the Chargers offensive line coach just gushing
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 5: about Joel Lolt.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 7: They're gonna play my right tackle.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 8: Did you see that video of the cold offensive line
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 8: that went viral? No, for them like walking out to practice,
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 8: they like walked out together in a group, like slow motion.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 7: It was pretty interesting out to Hunter Henry there simultaneous catch.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 7: They're kind of arguing if Dugger had it or if
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 7: to the receiver. Yeah, it was a little behind by
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 7: Coby Brissette.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, who was it Dugger? Yep?
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, good coverage by Dugger, I thought.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the coverage has been pretty good in
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 4: the sevens.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 4: Usually it's the other way around. You see it as
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 4: you're getting.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 7: Openings Khan Boody or is that that's a little bit
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 7: more for Booty two tight ends. Oh, it's good covered.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 4: Rakon he looking for a flag not today.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 7: That's a good player.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 4: It's like Ray wond Mill and another guy that like
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 4: you just feel like, Hea, he's gonna make the team.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 5: I don't know what he's gonna do, but he's gonna
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 5: be one of those special teams guys too, like like
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 5: mac Wilson. But they seem to love him. I mean,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 5: was he's only his third contract with the team. He's
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 5: got more contracts than games played.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 7: I don't absolutely how that works, but like I feel
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 7: like they kept signing him to one year deals and
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 7: they had to sign him to another one year deal, right, and.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 4: Then he's like like the team's financial advisor.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 7: In the he does a lot of got Javon Baker
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 7: down here.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 6: See see what he did?
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 10: He's sorry under route to k j Osborne, Drake May,
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 10: Drake May. It's like Polk is coming in for Juju
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 10: nas more. I like how they get the rookies paired
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 10: up now you know they got Polk and Baker with
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 10: with Drake May.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 4: So Mitchell Wilcox is not considered to be an inline blocker, right,
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 4: I would.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 7: Say that's more of his his.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 4: Game, okay, because he does not get open unless unless
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 4: he's uncovered. There was another death sentence Tavai again.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, May trying to thread the need a little behind
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: the receiver should have been caught though.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 7: Through it behind him on purpose. I think because Giovanni
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 7: DeFi was about to.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: He was he would have got killed in a real game.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah that was that Gibson.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 7: Uh no, it is kJ Osborne.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, well thank you to Drake May for not
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 5: putting that out in front of him family thanks.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 4: To rights body and rayer.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 7: Yep, Michael Peedaway, there you go.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 4: Well shall across to Michael peed Away, that's the play
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 4: they ran a couple of days ago to jaheem Bell
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 4: that I just missed, like connecting.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 5: Kind of the Johnny the John New route. Let me
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 5: have done that the John Why training CAMPAGNT. My apologies
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 5: makes here last year two years ago, two years ago,
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 5: two years John two.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 4: Years ago.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 7: Is in Miami now, yeah, Atlanta.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 6: They had a good year in Atlanta last.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I think he is Miami.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 7: See this is you know, it's not much to do
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 7: in this type of drill, but that's gonna be something
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 7: that they're gonna have to start scripting. Like how when
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 7: he breaks the pocket and the play breaks down, where
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 7: are you guys going, because you know, like in Kansas City,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 7: they they have it all mapped out that when my
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 7: homes breaks contained, you know, this is where our rules are.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 7: This is where everybody's gonna go.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 4: Joe Milton get something new. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's uh.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: I would say the offense has not had a good
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: day overall.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I would agree.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 4: Now just a couple of pockets of place here and there. Yeah,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 4: can't do that. That's too late, buddy.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah, So the Jayvon Baker is running across or he
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 7: did it, did the right thing to sit it down
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 7: against the zone coverage, but Joe Milton threw way too late.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 5: And it's interesting if he stared him down through it.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: He just told everybody, I'm gonna throw it now right
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: over here, and that's your guy, right, Uh?
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 5: Is that Joe Giles Harris? Of course not your guy.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 5: Don't even thrown Was that your guy?
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 4: My guy? I think it's your guy. H two four
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 4: your guy?
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 7: Rough seventh period here for all three quarterbacks. Yeah, gotta hit.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 7: Just a tough rhythm, you know. That's and that's what
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 7: I feel like with with Milton's.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 5: You know, to Tamara's point, the short throws, it's just
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 5: it's like they don't have rhythm because he throws them hard.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 4: Like some of these guys.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 5: When you see a short passing rhythm, it's just you
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 5: feel it, you know, it's he drops back, he hits,
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 5: he delivers the balls at a good pace and it's right.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 5: And with his it's it feels choppy in a different
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 5: way than it did with Cam Newton or Kim Newton.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 5: It just felt like it was always late, and he
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 5: tried to make up with it, make up for it
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 5: with with putting mustard on the on the throw, but
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 5: I don't know. Sometimes with these it just feels like
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 5: Builton kind of just loses the timing of the play.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 4: Reset and huddle up again here. This is not a
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 4: quality end to the period.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 7: Here still about thirty twenty five minutes, so.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 4: It's probably gonna be another elevens, I would agree. Did
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 4: they do two each?
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they won't end here.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 7: A third down you.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 6: Re huddled and still wind up wrong.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 5: David Wallace, come on, bra, give you a credit though
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 5: you got open write a nice.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 7: Out route and out to eighty seven.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 4: Mitchell Wilcox, it's been.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 7: Involved, Mitchell Wilcox. I don't know what to make of it. Yeah,
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 7: he is somebody that I called his name more than
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 7: we've called Jamee Bell's name, which I don't love to
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 7: hear that.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 4: But no, Gen bellspin am I.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: It comes to the old line from the backfield getting
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: ready to go eleven out of eleven here.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 7: He's listened six four two fifty, so that sounds like
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 7: a guy that should be able to throw his weight
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 7: around a little bit. Yeah, headway again.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that arm is talented. Yeah, I'm Joezuka, Joe.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 7: You can just tell that they hit both him and
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 7: Drake may love throwing out, you know, because it's just
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 7: it's easy to read, and they got the arm to
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 7: get it out there, so it's no hesitation.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 6: Easy to read, easy to enjoy.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 8: Right, what do you guys make of Zabie not getting
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 8: reps in some of these periods.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he did get He got a couple of sevens
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 7: right early.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 4: Seven. We have seen him been out.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 7: It has been passed over since.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 3: I think the last time we saw him was that
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: past where the guy zigged and he thought he's gonna zag.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that was since we have not.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think he's probably gonna get a well,
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 4: I don't know, we'll see. He gets the third one
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 4: of the team, so they split it up that way.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 6: Maybe there's Milton.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 4: You can get a sevens on the first sevens and
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 4: then he got the third reps on the team and
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 4: third rep on this sevens the second one. Yeah, it's
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 4: interesting to me.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 5: Continue to see key on White a lot of just
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 5: early down reps as an outside linebacker. Yeah, a little
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 5: bit interesting to me, just that, you know, Anthrety Jennings
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 5: not really sniffing any of that.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: All right, what's our offensive line look like?
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 7: Same as it's been all Practica Rager Paul Cooper Osborne
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 7: with Hermandre quarterback on her center.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 4: Play action.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 7: There it is.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: There we go.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 7: To Austin Hooper, Hooper down the middle, down the scene.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: Nice play. Judan shot a gap and got picked up.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 5: It's probably the best player of the day so far,
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 5: one of the best of his camp.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 4: My whole like that looked like a play.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Austin Hooper has been had a couple of nice days.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 4: He's solid.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 7: Henry now Hooper called personnel nub formation, guys. Nu formation
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 7: is just like kind of a general football term. I
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 7: don't want to give away too much. Google nub formation
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 7: and figure it out and u B. But you didn't
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 7: hear from me, so the case silent. So that was
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 7: a trap run there, called trap play and they they
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 7: will run those, uh you know, to kind of counter
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 7: off of all the zone stuff. And I thought that
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 7: hit pretty well City.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 4: So I think Jalen Hawkins believes that he made the
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 4: tackle with the line of scrimmage. Okay, by the way,
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 4: look I don't know if that's true. I mean, he
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 4: just was going like he was celebrating looking at that
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 4: pole catch from a couple of days ago.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 7: What we wanted definitely would have been a sack. I
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 7: was when they when they put any the line and
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 7: the blunder, like if they run any sort of stunt
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 7: or blitz or something like that there there we're still
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 7: a work in progress. So Daniel Qualley is the one
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 7: getting the DAPs so looks like he was the one.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 5: Scott Peter's right over to Katon Wallace talking to him
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 5: a little bit. So I have been back to that,
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 5: like you know, whether or not the run was successful.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 5: Mike and I joke about this all the time in
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 5: these training camp practices. The defensive guy just go up
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 5: and they give you a little tap on the hips, right,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 5: I'm not necessarily sure you had them.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 7: You gotta get him to the ground. That's all different animal.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 5: I think though, seeing that video a couple of days
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 5: ago Polk's catch, I do think Evan was right that
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 5: Jalen Hawkins, if he had wanted to in a real game,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 5: probably would have sent you on Polkin the next two.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I also think the pass could have been picked off.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 7: I just also feel like in that respect, it's like
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 7: you don't really see safeties get to send guys into
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 7: next Tuesday anymore, because I think all the flags will
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 7: just start.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 4: That's why I think it probably would have been picked up.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 4: And I to me, the biggest thing for that was
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 4: listening to Drake May talk about the throw after practice. Yeah,
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 4: that was locked. He was not very complimentary of himself.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he knew he short armed.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: It was like they're in a hurry up, right, no
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: or no, I guess not.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 7: A little sitting route to Taekwon thor And as a
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 7: that was a clean pocket, well done, not too.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 4: Bad, little maybe a little better here, and he's yeah, yeah.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 7: I'd say this is a little smoother. Yeah, got one pressure.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 7: But yeah, Jalen Hawkins, I'm sorry, I'm not giving you
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 7: the benefit.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I mean I'm kind of honest. Ignoring the
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 4: run play, Yeah, I liked the play down the scene
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 4: to Hooper. I mean that that was a highlight to me.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 4: You can only tell the running plays that we're going nowhere,
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 4: and that even that throw to Thornt, now like that
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 4: was a quick hitter.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 7: There's nowhere to run on that play, no way to.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 4: Run to baby high. Oh so you can sing, okay,
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 4: just because I'm all key, Because just because I don't
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 4: sing well, it doesn't mean I shouldn't be allowed to sing.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 4: All right? The drake is in love the Drake.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: Alex In Somerset said, you guys recently often refer to
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: some plays in training camp as that looked like an
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: NFL play, Like it's a rare occurrence.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 6: It's a weird, weird thing that might only interest me.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: I'm curious when Brady was that quarterback, did every play
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: in training camp look like an actual NFL player or
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: were there lulls in training camp as they iron things out?
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 4: So the reason why it became a thing in the
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 4: first place, like that's the origin of it, was whenever
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 4: somebody other than Brady was playing quarterback, how often it
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 4: looked like it looks like when Brady played quarterback, So
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: when Garoppolo was in there, or Ryan Mallett was in there,
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 4: or Rohan Davy whoever was in there when Brady was out,
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 4: how often did it look like a Patriots play?
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 6: Like it always looked like a Patriots play. When Brady
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 6: was in there for the most part.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 7: He was pretty good. I heard Tom Brady. Yeah, he
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 7: had a big event here for him.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 4: What was that?
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 7: Well, sit Jalen Regar and a nice side arm dropped
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 7: the platform.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 4: I mean that one was like another one you just
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 4: never see where. It looked like he was just going
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 4: to throw it to the running back, but then instead
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 4: he just kind of turned and fired at him.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 7: Ye wait tell you there was a no look.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 4: Everybody was then, well, didn't need do that in like OTAs.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 7: That was supposed to be a screen tight end screen.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 7: I got blown up.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: May had to throw that one into the ground.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 7: He did did.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and everybody lost their minds.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 4: Then it was kind of cool, right, So now now
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 4: they're cool because we have a guy who does that.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 4: They used to be ridiculous, stupid and overrated when Mahomes
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 4: said that. Now they're great. Oh you never hear people
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 4: make fun of Mahome.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 6: So the way they gush.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 4: Over Mahomes, Yeah they gush over right, you never heard that?
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they say it's great.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 4: Okay, so no, no, no, no, people make fun never minds
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 4: who people make fun of the way they gosh because
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 4: Mahomes does these routine things and doesn't know. Look, but
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 4: now we have a guy who does those things, so
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 4: we'll be excited about it.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: I thought we were jealous of Mahomes.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 7: I am too.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 5: Did you guys see the whole thing with the Raiders
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 5: where they have like a Kermit the Frog.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I did see that, dude.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 7: Why right to Mitchell Wilcox. There was a little bit
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 7: of separation there.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that one got away from him. That was that
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 5: was a bad throw, And I agree you guy was
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 5: open eighty seven.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 4: That sevensky now, yeah, just I.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 7: Think when home stuff though this era, I mean, I
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 7: don't know John Elwayne Dan Marino might have been throwing
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 7: no look passes. I don't know. But I don't think
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 7: Matthew Stafford deserves the credit for venting to go. He
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 7: was the first one that started doing it in this era,
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 7: and then obviously Mahomes and and other guys have done
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 7: it now too. But Stafford and the Super Bowl still
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 7: is the best no look past I've ever seen. And
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 7: cut to guess who d Keshan Boody.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 4: This ad.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: Could have been a little bit more out front, but picking.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 4: Good catch by Booty. Yeah, had to fight off.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 5: Uh. John Joe, some secondary hands should be our last
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 5: play for the Drake.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, let them throw one deep, come on, cowk one guy.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 4: Seems like they're doing Thornton's out there and cook one guy.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 7: A decent amount of situational stuff here too, you know,
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 7: quick game, third and short.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: Some guys with shorts, some guys with game pants, Paul,
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: Which would you choose if you.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 4: Were out there? Shorts? Shorts?
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 5: Who loves the running of the Jewets, The running of
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 5: the Jewets. Well, you're not going to get a deep
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 5: ball there.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 7: Kevin Harris. Nice job picking up that stunt though. They
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 7: picked that one up pretty decent. Not so Drake goes.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 4: Three doing that.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 5: Three for five sit route to really zaps getting some
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 5: chances here at the end.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 4: Hey, every once in a.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 5: While, I'm right, do you think in the know what
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 5: all tent? They're like, you know, they're just bad. It's
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 5: like he's third.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 4: When they did seven on seven the first time, Yeah,
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 4: it was Brissett May Zappi. Yeah, And they did team
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 4: and it was Brissett May Milton. Then they did seven
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 4: on seven again and it stayed Preset May Milton. And
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 4: now they're going to another sevens. I mean another full
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 4: team and that oh bubble. So we're getting twenty nine
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 4: and there by a lot of a lot of Javon
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 4: Baker being open in this practice. So if you want
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 4: some good news on offense, I think that's the takeaway toy.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 4: Uh is this is this?
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 5: Uh Terrell Jennings first kind of team action we've seen
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 5: him get. He's been a rehab guy, right, Yeah, that
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 5: sounds right. Yeah, so him getting in there. I think
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 5: I believe the Jennings family was listening to a previous episode,
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 5: so good news for them if they're still tuning in. Ah,
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 5: there's there's Tyrone Wheeley, a left tackle and who do
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 5: we got over on the other side?
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 4: Sixty four.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: Juri Henry ah Slater family helping out with special teams.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 4: Yo, and Terrell Jennings gets a carry. Oh he gone,
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 4: and he's gone. He could go all the way. Nice run.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 4: This is stupid. You guys can tease me about this later.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 4: But then he did kind of look fast on that.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we haven't even seen him yet.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 4: Now he's a big boy, right, like he's got some
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 4: decent size.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 7: I believe.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 5: Sounds right if I'm remembered for referring kicker friends are
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 5: just here down here working on looking on their social game.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah right, scrolling.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 9: Zappy Oh in.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 5: Some crowd he get it in there a little scary
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 5: threw it into the mesh point.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 4: How many games to Billy?
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, what was what was that?
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 4: Mike?
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 7: They're making fun of me? What was that?
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: Mike?
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 5: I wish Fred not me. I'm just I'm just watching.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 5: I'm just watching the difference with Bailey's appy out there.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 5: And how do we watch games with him starting this year?
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 8: How do we watch games with Mac Jones starting?
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 4: Mac?
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 5: Poor Mac gotta he got he got a pick on
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 5: social media going around.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 4: Down in Jackson.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah, updates from training camp for him are just very accurate.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 6: I'll tell you the center. Who is the center?
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 4: And this uh yuh might be Mafi. He is struggling.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 4: Every snap has been off target out of these, I
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 4: don't care.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 5: Which again, it's like, you know, he's playing next to
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 5: the under after rookie there. Charles Turner, who I don't
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 5: know if I've even seen him snap the ball yet.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 4: He was help Leu's use center last year. Get my owner.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 5: If Jake Anders would would fit into this mix, if
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 5: when he's able to get back out here, all right,
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 5: ZAPPI still going pet Way Wallace Jennings at running bags.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 5: Opportunity is kind of all He's the kind of opportunity
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 5: reps across the board, even though you grow.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 4: Pepper's out there, you know, just set in the town.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 4: That's a good okay. I think that would be the
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 4: last rep I got five each.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, let me go through one more time, maybe just
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 7: for fun.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 4: Well, it's sounding looks like they might get another rep
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 4: high five and people like.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 2: They just congratulating each other surviving a practice.
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 6: You make fun of me. You have a lot of
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 6: sidecast to your game.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 7: Girod Mayo is U is not signaling them to head
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 7: to the hill or anything.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure they're done. I don't think they are.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: They might go to one fifteen today.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 4: They're milling.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 7: Looks like Jacoe Brossett is going to get another run.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 7: He's talking to Alex van Pelt at the moment, starting
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 7: defens around there.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 4: So yeah, they still don't run it again. I cauld
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 4: stand the wonderf they'll do nub formation again. That'd be fun.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 7: Team USA has pulled away for a twenty one point
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 7: lead in the fourth quarter. Rest of the world's catching up.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: Is this still the group stage or what do we do?
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 7: This is their first game against Serbia, who has Nikola
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 7: Jokic on their team.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 4: Never never lose that snart.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I heard u. I heard Serbia at the
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 7: best player in the world was really catching up to
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 7: USA twenty one point, coasting to a win. Here we're
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 7: walking through or so we are done one for one,
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 7: we are done.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 4: Oh, he's just doing one play.
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 4: One play to come. Oh, that was almost an unbelievable
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 4: one handed catch by that equipment guy who kind of
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 4: looks like he's stacked the tall the guy in the blue. Yeah,
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 4: May's out there now. Is everybody gonna just run one plane?
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 4: I think they might be installing a play.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 2: It's like call your favorite play for each quarterback. So
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: what's what's Drake May's favorite play? We'll see right now.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: So motion to the left, he shotgun and he throws
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 2: it out.
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 4: It's the thing with Nick Levertto.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 5: He's another guy that I feel like with him snapping
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 5: second string, He's got a lot of interior kind of
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 5: swing versatility. How he's gonna fit in with Mafi And now.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 11: Zach, So one play each, get one play, gotta lose yourself.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 4: You're gonna get one shot, you know, one opportunity.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 6: I got it.
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 4: I got it. Matt Morele is banging heads downstairs right now.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 4: That's all he needs. Happy holding it complete and.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 5: They have a convoy, so you'll go, all right, here
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 5: we go.
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 4: I think we were wrong last practice. Two guys.
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 6: Everybody had sly for this one.
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I couldn't see with our our angle. So let's see.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 2: If the season started today, who's your kicker?
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 7: Sly Ty goes to the incumbent.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 4: I think they probably want Ryland to win the job. Yeah,
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 4: and they haven't really done anything yet, so I would
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 4: go with Ryland.
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 5: No, it's funny because they're not really are They not
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 5: playing the music for the kickers now, So I mean
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 5: that used to be when we get some atmosphere, a
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 5: little pressure here at.
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 7: The end, but to be fair, usually is silent when
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 7: they kicks.
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 4: All right, So Slies going first from Ditrich wise Lake
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 4: getting out thirty four left.
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 7: Hack guys, oh off the upright and no good good
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 7: from how long thirty three thirty four?
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think thirty four from the left this time
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 5: slies going first, that was Sly, Yeah, I thought that
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 5: was Rylan. Now it's Ryland here, No, I know this
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 5: is Ryland. I thought the first one was Ryland. Okay,
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 5: you might be right.
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 4: I don't know. That looked bad too. I don't know.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 7: I don't know if that went in. It's so hard
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 7: to see from this angle.
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 4: All right. So now now we're doing the rights coming
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 4: off the field.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 2: Here, who.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 4: Secn me something to eighty two? You see the guy
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 4: that got lit up? Yeah, yeah, eighty two, he's the
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 4: guy that got lit up.
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know about that one either, No high facts.
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 5: I think Slim is that one.
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 4: And now r Island from the right hash thirty four
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 4: yard attempt.
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 5: I can't even I can't even alreadycord this. I can't
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 5: tell if they're good.
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 7: I know, I just have Barth tell me after practice with.
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 4: The hang times no offense. But I don't trust anybody
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 4: to be honest with her.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 5: I don't even know about that from this angle, I can't. Yeah,
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 5: you know, it's really hard to tell.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 8: And I just I don't see anyone like high fiving
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 8: no either, So like it's just hard to tell if
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 8: he if it went.
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 5: Through or not.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 2: Well, the foot to ball speed looked at, but.
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 8: The body language and like no one acknowledging it is weird.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 5: Now we're going forty yards from the left hash Joey
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 5: slide back up?
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 4: What's up? And it's something? Yeah, I don't know.
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 5: I mean they kick you in the hole, older high
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 5: five after everyone, So I don't know.
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 7: It's up in the air.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 5: Made the rops here, yeah, or at least teacher wise
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 5: used to help us out with this.
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 4: Eric Alexander and the way back between used to be
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 4: good at that too. I'm gonna give him that one. Yeah,
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 4: all right, A lot of the guys are heading out
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 4: of the field right, so head down to the hills.
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 2: We're gonna put our camera on the hill while we
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 2: wait for Gerard Mayo because we're gonna interview Gerard Mayo
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 2: after practice. Tamara's teeing up for that. You're ready for that?
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 7: I am.
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You get some good questions lined up. Okay, it
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 2: should be fun here.
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 5: He's got a few training camp practices under his belt.
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 5: I'm sure he's excited though, for a little little pads tomorrow.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 5: All football players get excited the crack of the pads.
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 7: He once played football.
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 2: I've heard that all at Tennessee.
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 7: He docked the line a volunteer, if you will. I
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 7: think he wore the same number as Joe Joe Milton.
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, is that like a special number down there?
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 4: I don't know, specially we're still going here kickers.
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 7: So maybe it was a tie. Then maybe this is
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 7: the tie breaker. Loser does carries the pads. I think
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 7: that went in.
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 7: Check he's getting some dawns.
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Check.
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 2: I think we do know about Ryland. He's got a leg.
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 2: He can he can go.
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 4: Too, ye see him be.
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 2: He's know Nick Folk?
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 4: Nick Folk? Is he the kicker again this year in Tennessee?
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 4: I believe so. Yeah, jeez, it's great. It's great stuff,
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 4: great story.
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 2: So we're waiting for a Drid Mayo. I'm sure he's
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 2: down by the hills with the rest of the team.
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 4: So Austin Hooper fred is the guy that I noticed today.
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, he had a handful of catches.
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 4: I thought.
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 7: Him and Javon Baker. If you want some offensive standouts,
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 7: Baker I thought was open the entire practice, uh, one
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 7: on ones and during team periods. But yeah, Austin Hooper,
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 7: Jalen Rager, Booty had some. He had some one on
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 7: ones Yep, in not a good way. I think who
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 7: has been consistently rough the past few days is juju. Yeah,
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 7: it's like when you're given very little reps as it
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 7: is because that room is so big and so many
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 7: people competing for the roster spot. It's like when I
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 7: look at his tape from the past three four days,
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 7: you see a bunch of drops.
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 2: It's not so you can see the Patriots running the hills.
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 3: And you might have heard about the hills, but I'm
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 3: not sure a lot of fans may have heard, but
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure a lot of fans out there have
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 3: actually seen the hell.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 2: So here's your opportunity to do that.
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 4: It starts off a little flat and then all at
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 4: the end it tails up. Yeah.
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 2: Well there's two of them. There's one that's a little
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 2: steeper at the end, and then there's one that's a
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 2: it's more of a steady incline raised up a little.
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 5: It's the worst part of every sport, right sprints, just
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 5: conditioning at the end of practice.
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 2: Oh God, I hated it.
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 7: I used to hate ending in well, we used to
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 7: call them suicides. I don't know what they're called. Now
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 7: that was the worst.
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 2: Let's say that line touches in basketball.
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but you also have the flat the flat land
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 5: group here seam Wade among others up top running without
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 5: the hill.
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 7: And then I see some biking. I see some biking,
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 7: I see some rap work work some peloton. Yeah no,
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 7: they're one of those bikes that has like the arms too,
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 7: so not like a peloton. It sounds like a hybrid
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 7: of like an elliptical flash. That's exactly what it is.
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 5: I wonder what one does to get into the flat
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 5: field running group instead of like the hell's too much
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 5: for these guys?
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 4: Or do you think, oh wait, this is crazy.
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 5: I know they monitor all these guys in real time
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 5: about how much they're doing. Do you think it's possible
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 5: that they say, you got a lot of work today,
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 5: you're not on the hill something like that. I mean,
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 5: do they dial back specific guys who specifically ran more
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 5: than anybody else? I mean, I don't know, just toss
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 5: some ideas out there.
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 4: So I would think all the DB's and wide receivers
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 4: would be doing that. Then not necessarily, David Andrews.
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 7: I have the offense with seven successful plays to fifteen,
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 7: but Jakob Brissett and Drake May quarterback, so actually a
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 7: little bit more even day, I would say than the
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 7: last couple of days I've had, but not a whole
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 7: lot going down the field for the offense. We had
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 7: a bunch of short passes to make up those seven
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 7: positive plays.
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 5: But.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 7: Maybe a little bit more, a little bit more even.
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think the thing for me too is
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 5: that they're just this sense of angst from the players
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 5: so far, like the offensive players, like there was the
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 5: last couple of years when we'd watched these practices and
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 4: Similarly unproductive.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, for me, I look back at those practices,
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 5: I remember a lot of well they had like two
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 5: nice contested fades in the end zone to Devonte Parker,
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 5: you know, like those were that was kind of what
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 5: you would hang your hat on. Whereas you know, now
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 5: it's just I don't know, that's what all monitors I mean,
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 5: seems like the offensive coaches and players still seem pretty
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 5: positive about what they're doing that thus far, despite not
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 5: a lot of on field results that we've been gushing over.
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 4: Sporadic plays here and then.
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the old paulism. I mean like when you hit
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 7: the play to Austin Hooper. You know, those types of
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 7: plays do give you some confidence that some things are
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 7: starting to come together. And I would also say that
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 7: it's it's positive that the offensive line decided to settle
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 7: down a little bit. They were better a couple of
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 7: days and you see, you know, that same five out
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 7: there with Jakobe Brissett. Maybe that does build some continuity
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 7: and you're able to be a little bit more buttoned up.
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 7: But I thought they were at times. They still allowed
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 7: some pressures, you know, Dietrich Wise Godshaw had one, Daniel
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 7: Qualley had one in there somewhere. But in general I
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 7: thought that they were a little bit better today.
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 5: Still working on the hills, Yeah yeah, but I do
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 5: think we get back tomorrow and it's the same starting
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 5: five along the offensive line in pads, that that.
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 4: Probably be it, And aren't you expecting that at this point?
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 8: I kind of help, which is good because I really
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 8: don't want them to be still trying to figure that out.
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 8: You know, the third preseason game, I'd rather than figure
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 8: out sooner rather than later.
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 7: They buy Yeah, they got they got it.
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 4: They got to test it against real fire right. Yeah,
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Fred, You've been telling me they've had
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 4: hundreds of days of work. I mean, how many days
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 4: they need?
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 2: You know, it's teaching.
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 4: He's too easy. Fred's paying himself in the corner with it.
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 6: I mean they've been added since like early one.
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 5: That's a friend's going to lead off the questioning with
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 5: MAO is he's just going to finger wagon? Well?
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 4: Actually it's actually wow.
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 2: Do those practices counter not?
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 5: You know, have you guys been catching anything else going
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 5: on at any other camps or I really have not
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 5: all I.
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 7: Have thoroughly been enjoying J. J McCarthy throwing pick sixes.
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, thoroughly.
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 4: Oh really, I have not seen that.
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 7: There are some clips going around of him making some
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 7: good throws too. I'll be fair, but oh yeah, they're
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 7: picking on poor JJ in Minnesota.
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 2: Should the Cincinnati Bengals be considered one of the NFL's
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 2: elite teams?
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 6: No, what do you consider elite?
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 2: Like you know, super bottom mat super Bowl content?
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 4: They're a Super Bowl content? I agree, Yes, Okay, I
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 4: know everybody hates Cincinnati and for obvious reasons within our building.
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 4: You're not the only one that said something like that.
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 1: To me.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 4: But yes, they're one of the better teams in the league.
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 4: But I mean, I don't I wouldn't put them with
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 4: like San Francisco in Kansas City right now.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 6: They have to be more consistent.
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 4: So are they're they're really good?
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 2: Are we all going to stay up for Gerard? People
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 2: going down?
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 7: What do we do?
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 4: I thought if you you and Tamara are gonna stay
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 4: do the interview, I'll wait and you guys can go
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 4: down now, I'll wait and tap dance with you for
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 4: lack of a better term. Okay, so we don't have
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 4: to just, you know, kind of sit around and wait
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 4: and when Gerard comes over, I'll leave the interview to
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 4: the professionals. How's that is that a plan?
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 7: Sounds sounds good?
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 4: I got to go to talk to somebody down there.
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 7: So that somebody is probably Pep. It's going to run
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 7: and chase you down.
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 4: Legally, I'm not allowed within twenty feet.
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 7: Hi p, Hi PEP. Big fan of your contract. Glad
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 7: you're sticking.
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 6: Around a little something to the effort. I got you
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 6: half of that, all right?
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 4: All right? So what do you uh, what do you
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 4: want to talk about with girod MAO? I mean beyond,
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 4: you know, like his impressions here. Obviously we're gonna first
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 4: four days under your belt.
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 3: Well, I would like to know if there's anything specific
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 3: that he tells his team to be ready for pads tomorrow.
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 3: You know, is there something Is there a message that
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 3: have on my list? Yeah, that he's giving the guys,
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 3: like how to mentally prepare for tomorrow.
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 4: Can we ask for a little bit of a sneak
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 4: peek of what we might see tomorrow?
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we could do that.
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 6: I'd appreciate that.
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 2: I think I think the answer is what we've already seen.
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 2: But you just have pads on.
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm I'm asking like, are we going to
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 4: see So you think nothing will change? No, okay, that's
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 4: just my opinion. I mean, yeah, that's an answer. Yeah,
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 4: I was hoping to see a little contact.
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 2: Well, no, you'll see contact. Yeah, absolutely, that's the change.
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 2: It's pads. But in terms of the structure of the practice,
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 2: I think it'll be the same.
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I meant like what actually they're doing, not
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 4: necessarily how they're doing. They're going to do it. You're right,
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 4: you're going to do it the same way they've done
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 4: it the first four days, which I keep saying like
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 4: it's football, right, it's football practice. Like you go around
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 4: the NFL and there's different times doing this. They do things,
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 4: you know, a little bit differently than Bill did. But
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 4: Bill did seven on seven, Bill did eleven on eleven.
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 2: You know like this, not like this strange you build
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 2: up toward eleven on eleven.
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 4: Right, the stuff you do before practice in a walkthrough
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 4: setting is the stuff that you're going to be doing
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 4: when you're doing it against the defense. Yep. Ah, it's
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 4: a good, solid crowd today. I mean I was hoping
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 4: on Sunday that we'd see some people, and there were
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 4: definitely a few more people here today than there were
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 4: on interest on Wednesday.
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 8: I'll be interested to see how the crowd looks tomorrow,
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 8: especially if it does rain. It's like, do you still
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 8: fight it out and come even because it's the first
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 8: day it pads and you just want to see it
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 8: or you wait it out?
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I guess it depends on how bad
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 6: it is.
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 7: I've honestly been shocked overall with the weather so far
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 7: that we've had in training camp. Like today's I feel
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 7: like our best day in regards to weather.
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, beautiful day.
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 4: Is that over there? Yes, near Stacey.
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 2: He's heading kind of toward us, but not.
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 4: Quite in the general vicinity of this side to take
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 4: a little bit of a right turn.
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 7: You guys have better vision than me.
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 4: Might have to say hello to some people first. I
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 4: don't know, Oh, that could be. Maybe it's just.
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 2: Getting some water.
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 4: That would be the best case scenario.
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 2: It's just drink, yeah, do a little hydrate.
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 4: All right. So you guys are going to be up
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 4: and running momentarily.
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, So Paul, why don't you head down? I enjoyed it, Freddy.
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 4: Four four more under the belt, fred Yeah, we just
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 4: keep on going here, huh. You and I revolutionizing training
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 4: camp coverage. We got a young male greeting her dad.
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 4: All right, they're getting his headset.
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 2: On all right.
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 3: Tomorrow we're joined by head coach girod Mayo, So fire away,
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 7: Fred. Hey, how are you? How are you doing today?
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 7: I'm great? How are you?
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 8: You've gotten a couple of practices underneath your belt? How
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 8: do you think training camp is going so far? Through
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 8: your through your eyes?
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 12: I mean it's expected that we'll have ups and downs,
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 12: but I would say these guys are doing a great job.
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 12: Turning the page and getting better with every rep, not
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 12: only on the field, but also off the field.
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 4: So I'm excited.
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 8: One of the common denominators that we've heard in all
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 8: of your press conferences so far is competition. How do
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 8: you think the competition is playing out at every position?
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 12: You know, right now it's a little bit of, let's say,
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 12: control competition. But tomorrow is a big day when we'll
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 12: be out here in full pads and we'll see who
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 12: wants to compete and who has to deal with some adversity.
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 4: So I'm excited for tomorrow.
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 2: Hey, coach, speaking of full pads tomorrow, is there a
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 2: message that you give the team to mentally get prepared
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 2: for tomorrow in more contact? Yea.
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 12: Honestly, like a lot of these guys, they can't wait
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 12: to get in pass now understanding the acclimation period is
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 12: necessary once you put the pads on. If you can't
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 12: get juiced up to play real football, then you probably
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 12: shouldn't be here. If I had to give you a
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 12: row our speech to put on pads and go out
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 12: there and dominate the men across from you, like we're
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 12: trying to weed those guys out. So as we go forward,
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 12: we feel like we have a mentally tough team.
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 8: Coach, you brought up dominating the man right in front
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 8: of you. I want to go into the trenches now
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 8: and talk about the offensive line. You said the that's five,
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 8: this would play itself out in camp.
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 7: Where do you think you are with that look?
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 12: That's a great question, Tomaron, But I would say, honestly,
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 12: we'll see tomorrow, we'll see the way we'll see. I
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 12: would love to give you an answer, but it's hard
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 12: to evaluate the guys up front offensively and defensively when
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 12: there's not pads.
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 8: Of course, the biggest question everyone wants to know with
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 8: this camp is how is Drake may doing?
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 7: What is your perspective of his progress throughout camp?
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 12: YEA, Honestly, I would say all the quarterbacks are out
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 12: here getting better every day, including you know, Zappi and
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 12: Joe and you know obviously Jacoby. All those guys like
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 12: they're working their tails off, and we'll see what happens
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 12: as we continue to go. Right now, we're kind of still,
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 12: you know, mixing and matching the groups, but once we settle.
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 4: In, we'll be able to evaluate the quarterback position.
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 8: But Drake's doing a good job for us last one
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 8: before you let you go. The wide receiver room is stacked.
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 8: You've seen a different guy flash every single day. What
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 8: have you seen out of that room?
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 12: I mean those guys when you talk about competition, they're
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 12: competing at everything. They compete on the jug machines down downstairs.
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 12: So you know, honestly, it's one of those rooms where
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 12: you don't maybe have that big name, but you have
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 12: guys that are gonna break out this year just solely
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 12: based on the way that they are preparing each and
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 12: every day. So I'm excited to see those guys play.
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 7: Thanks so much, Coach for your time.
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 4: Thanks Coach, I appreciate you guys.
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 2: Thanks.
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Well that'll wrap it up for Day
• 2:20:19
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• 2:20:25
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• 2:20:29
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• 2:20:31
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