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Epstein Survivors Urge Leon Black to Fully Cooperate With Congress (9/4/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. One of the most fascinating battles when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to Jeffrey Epstein's associates and Congress and the survivors
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  Speaker 1: is most assuredly Leon Black. And the fact that Leon
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  Speaker 1: Black has been able to set the terms for what
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  Speaker 1: he's doing and when he wants to do it is
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  Speaker 1: just bananas. Imagine you walked into Congress and acted the
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  Speaker 1: way Leon Black did How do you think that would
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  Speaker 1: have worked out? But Leon Black, he gets to do
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  Speaker 1: whatever he wants pretty much. Now, of course, they've threatened
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  Speaker 1: a subpoena and they've hit him with one. But what
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  Speaker 1: are they going to do when he shows up to
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  Speaker 1: Congress and tells them basically to tell their story walking?
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  Speaker 1: Are they going to charge him with contempt? Are they
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  Speaker 1: going to arrest him? We all know the answer to that.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why I say all the time that all
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  Speaker 1: of this nonsense that we see is performative. It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have any real teeth. And the people that are being
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  Speaker 1: called before Congress, they don't fear repercussions if they're not truthful.
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  Speaker 1: And that's because Congress has shown that they're limp and
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  Speaker 1: they're not going to do anything when people walk all
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  Speaker 1: over them. And that's certainly what Leon Black has been doing. Well,
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  Speaker 1: now some Epstein survivors have banded together to call on
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  Speaker 1: Leon Black to cooperate with the House panel and give
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  Speaker 1: Congress the full story. And in this article from The Guardian,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk a little bit more about Leon
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  Speaker 1: Black and the requests made by the Epstein survivors. This
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  Speaker 1: article was authored by Marina Dunbar. More than a dozen
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  Speaker 1: survivors of Jeffrey Epstein's abuse have called on the billionaire
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  Speaker 1: Leon Black to appear before the House Oversight Committee in
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  Speaker 1: order to clarify his connections to the late disgraced financier
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  Speaker 1: and convicted sex offender. Look, Leon Black knows everything. That
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  Speaker 1: he is deep in it. And if it wasn't for
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  Speaker 1: his power, his wealth, his reach, this man would have
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  Speaker 1: been cooked a long time ago. But the thing is,
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  Speaker 1: Leon Black's a very powerful guy. And I know people
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  Speaker 1: don't want to hear that, but it's the truth. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about the man that started Apollo Global. He
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  Speaker 1: has a lot of friends in a lot of high places.
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  Speaker 1: And I know that Congress is talking tough. And I
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  Speaker 1: know that they're saying that, you know, there's going to
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  Speaker 1: be penalties for Leon Black. but I'll believe it when
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  Speaker 1: I see it. And look, if we do get to
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  Speaker 1: a point where he's, you know, called out for his
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  Speaker 1: bullshit in a meaningful way, and there's some repercussions, I'll
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  Speaker 1: be the first one to show back up and say, look,
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  Speaker 1: I was wrong. Congress handled their business. Kudos to them. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: history has shown us that that's not the reality of things.
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  Speaker 1: And that if we're waiting for Congress to step in
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  Speaker 1: and be the heroes, we're going to be waiting for
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  Speaker 1: a very, very long time. More than a dozen survivors
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  Speaker 1: of Jeffrey Epstein's abuse have called on the billionaire Leon
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  Speaker 1: Black to appear before the House Oversight Committee in order
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  Speaker 1: to clarify his connection to the late disgraced financier and
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  Speaker 1: convicted sex offender. In a letter released on Wednesday, the
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  Speaker 1: survivors urged Black to comply with the congressional subpoenas ahead
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  Speaker 1: of Thursday's deposition before the House Oversight Committee. Look, I
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  Speaker 1: just don't believe that Leon Black's going to do the
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  Speaker 1: right thing. He's going to show up with Susan Estrich,
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  Speaker 1: the rest of those lawyers... And they're going to run interference.
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  Speaker 1: Everything's going to be a challenge. Everything's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a fight. It's going to be theater is really what
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  Speaker 1: it's going to turn into. And maybe that's always been
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  Speaker 1: the goal. I mean, what has the committee done? Has
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  Speaker 1: anybody been indicted? Is there any sweeping investigations that we
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  Speaker 1: know about? Now, look, maybe they have something going on
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  Speaker 1: behind the scenes, but I highly doubt it. This day
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  Speaker 1: and age, you don't think there'd be a leak? Somebody
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  Speaker 1: talking about what's going on? And until Congress holds somebody accountable,
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  Speaker 1: then this is all performative. We are survivors of Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell's abuse and exploitation, and we're calling
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  Speaker 1: on Leon Black to appear as required before the House
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  Speaker 1: Oversight Committee on Thursday, the statement said. We are also
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  Speaker 1: calling on Black to fully comply with the committee's subpoenas
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  Speaker 1: and including its demand that he produce all responsive non-disclosure
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  Speaker 1: agreements in his possession. And is there anything unfair about
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  Speaker 1: what they're calling for? Nobody's asking Leon Black for anything
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  Speaker 1: that goes above and beyond his connections to Epstein. See,
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  Speaker 1: the problem is his connections to Epstein are the most problematic.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why he doesn't want to turn that information over.
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  Speaker 1: That's why he doesn't want to be forthcoming. And that's
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  Speaker 1: why he continues to play games. Black, the New York
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  Speaker 1: private equity investor, paid Epstein tens of millions of dollars
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  Speaker 1: in fees during work he has described as tax and
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  Speaker 1: estate planning services. He's already faced accusations of purposely delaying
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  Speaker 1: and disrupting the panel's inquiry. Well, yeah, he has. This
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  Speaker 1: man has been noncompliant. He's been obtuse. And he refuses
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  Speaker 1: to do what Congress tells him to do. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't understand how that doesn't make people more agitated, more angry.
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  Speaker 1: considering you have a whole ass different set of rules
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  Speaker 1: that you're expected to abide by. So if I'm expected
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  Speaker 1: to abide by some set of rules, then I expect
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  Speaker 1: Leon Black to have the same kind of obligations that
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  Speaker 1: any of us would have. The letter further stated that
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  Speaker 1: Black's use of NDAs underscores why Congress must scrutinize the
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  Speaker 1: agreements in his possession and determine whether they shed light
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  Speaker 1: on his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and others in Epstein's orbit.
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  Speaker 1: If Black continues to withhold responsive records or refuses to
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  Speaker 1: comply with the committee's demands, Congress should use every tool
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  Speaker 1: available to enforce its subpoenas. Yes, they should. The question is,
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  Speaker 1: will they? Like, is this a fight that Congress really wants?
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  Speaker 1: Or is it just something that they're making pretend they
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  Speaker 1: care about? Because I would think that with everything we
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  Speaker 1: know about Leon Black, couldn't you just refer him to
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  Speaker 1: the Justice Department? And then say, hey, look, the Justice
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  Speaker 1: Department has decided they don't want to go after him.
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  Speaker 1: We did our job. We referred him. But baby Billy
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  Speaker 1: Blanche and Donald Trump, they have other ideas. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Ben Black's part of the administration, etc., etc. But if
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  Speaker 1: I'm in Congress, I'm referring this dude. And that's it.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's enough here for an investigation. And then
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  Speaker 1: whatever the investigation finds, great. As long as it's a
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  Speaker 1: real investigation and it's robust... I'm more than willing to
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  Speaker 1: live with the results of the investigation. That's how confident
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  Speaker 1: I am that there's a whole ton of malfeasance here. Now,
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  Speaker 1: if it went the other way and they had a
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  Speaker 1: transparent process and we were all, you know, able to
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  Speaker 1: see what's going on, at least, you know, to a
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  Speaker 1: certain point, and it all ended up being overblown, then
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  Speaker 1: I'd certainly accept those results. I'm not going to move
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  Speaker 1: the goalposts. The problem is they don't even want that
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  Speaker 1: kind of investigation because they're scared of the results. That's
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  Speaker 1: what it comes down to. just like I've been telling
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  Speaker 1: you now, for seven years. Last week, the Republican chairman
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  Speaker 1: of the House Oversight Committee, James Comer, threatened to hold
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  Speaker 1: Black in contempt if he fails to fully cooperate with
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  Speaker 1: the panel's investigation into Epstein. Black had not yet confirmed
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  Speaker 1: his appearance before the committee as of Tuesday. A person
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  Speaker 1: familiar with the matter had told The Guardian, Imagine just
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  Speaker 1: ghosting Congress. Yeah, sure, I might show up. I might not, though.
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  Speaker 1: I got other things to do. You know, I got
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  Speaker 1: a meeting, and we got some bagels and lox to eat.
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  Speaker 1: And then we're going to talk about artwork. And then,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe, just maybe, I can carve out a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of time to go and speak to Congress.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what are we doing here? Like, what the
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  Speaker 1: fuck are we doing? Who's in charge? Congress? Or bitch-ass
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  Speaker 1: Leon Black? Looks like Leon Black. And like usual, Congress
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  Speaker 1: looks limp-wristed and useless. In a previous statement before the
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  Speaker 1: Oversight Committee in June, Black denied knowledge of Epstein's crimes, writing,
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  Speaker 1: I did not know about this nefarious activity until Epstein
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  Speaker 1: was charged with trafficking in July of 2019. Oh no,
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  Speaker 1: I had no idea. No clue whatsoever. How could I know?
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  Speaker 1: The great and mysterious Leon Black. Mr. Smartest man in
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  Speaker 1: the history of smart men. Unless it comes to Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: Then I'm just a big dumb fuck, right? Give me
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  Speaker 1: a break. I'm so tired of these people and their nonsense.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm really tired of Congress. letting these people get
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  Speaker 1: away with said nonsense. Here's an idea. Step the fuck up.
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  Speaker 1: Do the right thing. Just once. However, Black acknowledged that
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  Speaker 1: he was aware that Epstein had pleaded guilty in 2008
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  Speaker 1: to state charges relating to prostitution involving a minor. But
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  Speaker 1: that's no big deal. She was 17, right? Forget about
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  Speaker 1: the other 45 girls. And to the dumb fucks in
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  Speaker 1: the back of the room, don't you see that this
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  Speaker 1: was done on purpose? Yes. Instead of using the complaints
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  Speaker 1: of the girls that were 14 and 15, they decided
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  Speaker 1: that the only allegation they're going to use, the only
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  Speaker 1: charge he's going to get hit with, is from a
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  Speaker 1: girl that's 17. Ask yourself why they did that, especially
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  Speaker 1: now with hindsight as your guide. Look at how beneficial
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  Speaker 1: that was to Jeffrey Epstein and his buddies. Look at
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  Speaker 1: the narrative that they're building now. Do you really think
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  Speaker 1: they didn't know that back then? They insert this bomb
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  Speaker 1: here and it becomes the narrative. Rinson, fucking repeat. And
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  Speaker 1: the fact that people still keep falling for it is
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  Speaker 1: crazy to me. I don't know how anyone can be
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  Speaker 1: honest and say they looked at this case and that
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  Speaker 1: there was a robust investigation into Jeffrey Epstein and his
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  Speaker 1: criminal enterprise. Because that just isn't the case. speech from
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  Speaker 1: the House floor this week, Thomas Massey, the Kentucky Republican,
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  Speaker 1: who recently lost his primary to a challenger backed by
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, read aloud the names of several friends and
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  Speaker 1: associates of Epstein, including Black. Massey called on the Department
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  Speaker 1: of Justice to investigate the group of men and women
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  Speaker 1: involved whom the representatives refer to as perpetrators of Epstein's crimes.
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  Speaker 1: Massey also emphasized that despite the fact that it has
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  Speaker 1: been nearly a year since Trump signed the Epstein Files
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  Speaker 1: Transparency Act, millions of the Epstein files remain unreleased. And
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  Speaker 1: that is not what the act called for. Oh, it's duplicative.
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  Speaker 1: They have to do with national security. What the fuck
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  Speaker 1: does a lone predator who's diddling kids have to do
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  Speaker 1: with national security? Because remember, that's what they told us
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  Speaker 1: he was. So if that's the case, shouldn't be a
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  Speaker 1: big deal, right? Was John Wayne Gacy a national security threat?
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  Speaker 1: How about, oh, I don't know, Jeffrey Dahmer? How about
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  Speaker 1: Israel Keyes? Of course, the answer is no to all
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  Speaker 1: of them. But when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein, we
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  Speaker 1: have national security interests that have to be looked after.
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  Speaker 1: What does that even mean? Can somebody please explain that?
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact
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  Speaker 1: that Jeffrey Epstein was working as a middleman in the
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  Speaker 1: world of intelligence, right? Nah, nothing to do with that.
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  Speaker 1: So look, is Leon Black going to appear today? That's
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  Speaker 1: certainly the question. And when we have the answer, we'll
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  Speaker 1: get it added to the catalog. All the information that
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