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#37 - Signature or Selfie? The Sports Fan Choice That Sparks Stories or Collectables · Life According to Brian and Jason

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  All right, friends, welcome to another episode of Life According to Brian and Jason. Jason,
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  my friend, what are we talking about this week? Okay, Brian, you're in line to get something
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  from a player. You're in line, you're waiting in line, you finally, it's your turn to get
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  something from a player. Are you getting a picture with the player or a signed card, hat?
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  What are you doing? What are you collecting? So I have to choose. That's what I'm here.
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  I can't be one of those greedy fans. Like, hey, I want everything. No.
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  I like signatures. I have to go towards the signature side.
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  Me being a media guy who makes videos, I take way too many pictures. I have to buy all this
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  extra cloud storage space. I thought it would be a pick. But I have to say, my life, the only
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  signatures that I have, that I've collected, you know, I only have a couple, but I think they're
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  more meaningful versus the picture. I don't know. That's why. So what do you have the signature on?
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  Paper, a napkin, a card? I have Raleigh Fingers. You remember the great Raleigh Fingers? Great
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  mustache. She's a reliever, side armor. Back in the 70s, early, I think 70s, early 80s.
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  We got a signed baseball from Raleigh Fingers and it was a connection through work, believe it or
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  not. I was an assistant principal and I was helping this young kid through a tough time,
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  little kindergartner. And mom come in, you know, all this kind of stuff. It took a while. And then
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  towards the end of the school year, she goes, thanks for working with them. And oh, by the way,
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  there's a signed baseball from Raleigh Fingers. He's my uncle or something.
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  So I was like, because she saw I was a baseball fan because I had a few gloves in my office.
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  And so yeah, anyway, and then an older baseball player by the name of Charlie Metro
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  played back in the 50s, I believe. Again, just kind of passing our paths crossed.
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  When I worked at a certain school building and we got to talking, he's like, oh yeah,
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  I used to play. Here's my book, signed book. So yeah. Nice. Yeah, that's really all I got. But
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  it is pretty cool with the signature, especially when you got some kind of maybe angle to who they
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  are. That was pretty nice. It's not like I bought a signature down through eBay or down at the
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  local baseball card shop or something. So maybe that's why I'm choosing signature. What's your
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  choice? Well, my choice would be a picture. And I would want a picture because I just like to look
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  back at it and go, yeah, you know, just kind of reflect on that and go, that's cool. I was with
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  that person. Signatures to me seem to be just scribbled just quickly. And I don't know. Of
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  course, I will tell you in full disclosure, I don't really have any signatures and I don't really
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  have any pictures with anyone because I'm not one to stand in line and go down and do that. I'm
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  not really someone who really would need that. Though I will tell you, I do love the meet and
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  greets kind of, we were at Coors Field going down there and you could get signatures or pictures of
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  players and we're walking around. And that was very fun. And that, you know, I've done that with
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  you and Jason Giambi, man, he was walking around. He was not playing that day and he could, you know,
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  he was just having a good time down there. I would have loved, I don't think I did it. I don't know,
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  I didn't have the, you know, even that, I think we're just walking around, you know, enjoying
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  looking at the players really close and interacting with people. But I would have liked to have had a
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  picture with Jason Giambi. I kind of wish I would have done that. It would have been a funny story.
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  Would have been hilarious because we still laugh about that today because, you know, everyone else
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  has got like, you know, they're clean, they're showered, they're all fresh and tight. He looked
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  like he just dragged himself in from partying all night, man, bloodshot eyes. But, you know,
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  he was looking pretty rough. But he, yeah, but he was, but he was super cool to fans. I do have to
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  say that. He's a great player. Yeah, he's a great player. But yeah, he just looked like he kind of
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  forgot about fan day, so to speak. That's what makes it so funny because that would have been
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  great. But yeah, I noticed that I noticed you and I just, we just enjoyed the atmosphere. We
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  didn't either. We didn't get signatures or pictures that day. What was wrong with us, Jason?
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  I don't know. I think, but I really, really wish I would have done it now. I really, especially Jason.
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  He was a favorite player at the time. Right. And just so we were just laughing. Maybe we didn't
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  want to go up to him because, you know, but it just would have been good to see the story with
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  the signature. But you had a good story with your signature, too. So really, it's whatever your
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  well, interest is. I think if you could ever double dip, double dip, you know, of course,
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  but that seems so seems so. So I think that's my whole that's my whole thing is I grew up
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  and I didn't go all the time. But growing up in Arizona, especially when I was in high school
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  or college, you know, spring training games. And back in those days,
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  there's no such thing as a cell phone. The closest thing you had to a portable camera,
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  remember those little little turned knob travel cameras, you know, click, click, click more. Or
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  you had a thirty five millimeter film camera. And a lot of people just didn't drag that stuff to the
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  ballpark, you know. And so you got signatures back in the day and the players were way more
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  approachable back then because there wasn't a big deal. No one overpaid for spring training tickets.
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  And you were lucky on some days to have a thousand people there, you know, and all the big names are
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  right there next to the fence. And so I just got kind of used to that. It's like I don't really
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  need the signature, but hey, there's Rod Carew, you know. Hey, he's right there, you know. And
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  so that was just kind of a thing that, you know, this stardom seemed a lot more approachable
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  when I was younger. And you just didn't really feel like you needed signatures from anybody.
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  There was always kids. Don't get me wrong. But as kids, it wasn't a thirty five year old dude
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  pushing his way in trying to get a signature. It's just kids.
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  Because now it's get it and sell it. Right. Like, I know that's rough. That's like, you know,
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  we talked about in a past podcast. Right. It's about when do you bring a glove to the ballpark,
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  you know. When, you know, how long do you wear? I guess it depends on the sport, like the jersey.
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  Right. Also, how old is too old to get in line for a picture or a thing? Maybe that's what we
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  felt like. Right. Down the course field. We're like, you know what? We'll leave it for the
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  families, the kids. Right. That's probably exactly how we're thinking. Just at that time,
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  we had our educator hat on, not our fan hat on. And oh, I was geeking out looking in close to
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  really being close to them and just seeing them interact with people was actually pretty great.
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  It was like so it was on a course field. You know, there's many ways you either have the streams
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  where they come down and you're in a line, you just go to the rotating line. This thing, it was
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  like the players were all in the infield and we were all in the grass. Right. And they were just
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  walking around and you could get their attention. So they were they were walking and talking with
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  each other kind of in between. Right. It was a good way to do it, I thought, actually. Right.
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  Right. Well, I, you know, I love those days. I just yeah. Now with all the social media and
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  everyone's got a cell phone and I guess you could just snap a pic now pretty easily. I guess that's
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  the advantage of the modern day. If you if you're the pic guy, you could just photobomb some pro
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  player at any given time. Right. So why not? I think that would be cool. And the question is now
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  even security even seems tighter than ever. When would you do that? How would you get signatures
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  or pics of players nowadays? How would you do it? Well, of course, for baseball, I'll say this like
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  before I was just at Corsfield. So during batting practice and right after, they'll have
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  certain players who it's their turn. They'll go. I got you. And they'll be on Section 314.
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  114, not 3. 114 say and you just start a line. You go down and you just get it signed and you
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  go back up the steps. Next person. Next. Oh, it's like a train. That's what I was talking. So you
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  have that now, at least in baseball, as opposed to it was a fan fest. It was a game part of the
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  game and they just came out before the game that we did. Or was it after? I'm trying to remember now.
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  That was just a good way of trying to think for for football. I know they're out practicing. If
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  you go down low, you can do the same thing, but it's not as easy. Spring training tends to be more
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  the time to get those. That's why you go to the spring training football games and practices,
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  because once again, they have players. It's their turn. Or like I'm in Denver. So Bo Nix,
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  yeah, we just won. He'd run around the stadium, actually run around and or stop occasionally.
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  Some players would do that too after a win. They run on a whim. They're just like,
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  hey man, we just won. I'm high. I'm going to go sign some autographs of people. Sure.
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  I think there's that time too. So you kind of have to know. You have to know the schedules,
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  I'm hearing. You kind of have to know when they're, you know, at what times are approachable,
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  either pre-game, post-game kind of thing. And don't you think it's mostly special events too?
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  Like maybe, hey, let's pay the extra cash and go to fan day, you know, or find that ticket.
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  Or the connections, you know, I do remember this and I'm not a huge football fan, but
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  I got to go to a Broncos game many years ago. I'd say this is 15 years ago. And there's a connection
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  of a connection. And that connection of a connection person said, hey, I have access
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  to the tunnel after the game, go down. And this is the era of Peyton Manning. I think it was John
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  Fox was the coach, that guy. And who was the, who was the defensive dude at the time? He's the one
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  that- Von Miller? Yeah, Von was standing there. That was just a situation where I was like star
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  struck. And I- You were down there? You saw those guys? I didn't even know this.
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  I never said that? Oh, yeah. Well, anyway, you know, connection of a connection kind of thing.
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  And I'm standing down in the tunnel and I was overwhelmed. I, you know, I didn't really know
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  how to act. And, you know, it's like, I think I might've taken one picture, but Von, totally being
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  Von, standing there, signing autographs, doing media. And people are asking, hey, where's Peyton
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  at? Where's Peyton? They're like, no, he goes straight to the locker room to review film.
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  He was a total, like, I'm going to sit down. After the game? Yeah, after the game, sit down,
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  just goes through the whole game, his whole performance. Then he does, you know, media
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  afterwards. And then I just remember John Fox, the coach, he had his, like, luxury car parked
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  down in the tunnel over there. And all of a sudden he's, like, fresh in the suit.
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  He's done with the game. I think he's already did his press conference thing,
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  so cleaned up. He's in his luxury car, drives out of the tunnel. I'm like, wow, he's gone. I mean,
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  you know, Von's still doing Von stuff. And then that rolled into, oh, because we have such good
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  access, now we're just going to go hang with the players. The players have their own parking lot.
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  So at Mile High, they have their own parking lot. It's all fenced off, it's all secure. And
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  I just remember, it's like in the evening now. So after they all kind of go to their locker room,
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  do whatever they need to do, they all come out and tailgate in the parking lot. And I just
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  remember walking around, just talking to people. So it's bizarre. It's very bizarre. And they're
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  all very cool. I have to say, football players are probably less diva-ish than I would say,
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  because one, they're very big teams, you know, the 50, 60 dudes, you know. And yeah, I just remember
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  going around and I'm trying to think of who was the assistant coach at that time. I just didn't
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  talk to him. Oh, man, why is that dropping? He became the head coach of San Diego.
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  But the point is, yeah, you know, they have their own culture. They like to hang out.
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  But because I had a connection of a connection, I had this access and I was totally unprepared.
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  That's where I was going with this story. I could have gotten signature after signature after
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  signature, but I just love that privilege at that time. I tried not to mess it up, you know,
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  be that dude. Because I saw no one else getting autographs, right? I'm looking around,
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  even down in the tunnel, once they kind of got done with the media,
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  you know, it's like no one else is, you know, asking for weirdness. And so I was just trying
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  to be cool, as Jason says. I just tried to be cool. Well, dude, that totally,
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  you just took it to another level over pictures and signatures. You just worked with Def Con 10
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  there. Hanging out, being random. Yeah, just hanging out. I would take that over any signature
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  or picture, just kind of the experience. You know, it's nothing I can really hang on a wall
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  or sell, you know, on eBay. But the point is, I did, it was unexpected. And you just kind of
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  soak it in in the moment. And it was a lot of fun. I had a lot of respect for NFL players after that,
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  because it kind of reminds me of like, you know, Jason and Keltz, you know, it's like,
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  they seem approachable guys, you know, and that's the way it was. I just felt all everyone.
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  So here comes Vaughn, he's got a brand new Camaro, he comes rolling into the parking lot,
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  stereo thumping. Everyone gas around, looks at his new car. Yeah, they're just doing guy stuff,
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  you know, just talking. It's just families and team members. That was it.
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  You tell me you're wearing some Bronco orange or something. Dear God, I don't know. I like to
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  be kind of contrarian sometimes. I don't think I had it. I think I had a coat on. That was it.
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  I don't know. But I was blending in Jason. You did it, you stayed, you didn't get kicked out.
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  So that's better than any, sorry, picture or signature that you got. That's dope.
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  People collect either pictures like that, they'll put it up. You know, the infamous going to my
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  study and my man cave and see pictures of me with people. Or you have your autographed jerseys,
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  autographed hat, right, right, right.
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  It's pretty funny. But anyway, dude, that's my closest to stardom right there. So and I got
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  nothing out of it besides maybe a picture or two somewhere. So well, here's my other follow up
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  people collect these things. What is there anything you collect Brian, anything that you
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  collect? We've touched on it on other
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  podcasts about what? Yeah, I think I know what you might say. But I don't know if something's
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  changed. I was a Arkansas boy. Well, I think that's hit you know, when I was a kid, of course,
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  the cards came in, blah, blah, blah. I think I actually wound up giving most of those cards to
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  your son Ryan at one point. But I really switched over to ball gloves there for a good 20 years.
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  And the reason why I remember I was in college, you know, dirt poor in college.
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  And for some reason, we had to go to a secondhand store. I think they're buying furniture. I mean,
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  you know, you know, you're working a job or two trying to get to college. And so yeah,
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  we just bought used things. And I was happy to go through the sports. And down in Arizona,
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  there's a secondhand kind of retail, or yeah, retail chain called Desiree Industries. So it'd
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  be like your goodwill, right? But they're massive, like big stores. They're around the valley of
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  Phoenix. And I walked in and saw this pile of gloves started looking and going, Whoa,
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  I found a 1930s ball glove, you know. And back then again, you got no internet. So now I'm like,
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  searching in libraries for pictures of gloves, you know, books or magazines, I'm trying to
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  identify this glove. And so that kind of hooked me. And then anytime we went back to used stores,
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  no matter what, you know, kind of thrift stores, I'm just coming through the glove pile.
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  And before I know it, you know, 10 years later, I got like 30 gloves.
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  Did you? You had 30 at one time?
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  Yeah, so they're all just different eras. And some were some were older. So a lot of
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  them are from like the 50s and 60s. You could find those, you know, because
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  think of this in the 90s, right? Houses start to change over, generations move on,
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  things hit the garage sale pile, those kinds of things. And you pick up a lot of ball gloves,
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  because leather starts to get a little crispy. And so before it's deteriorated, people like,
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  well, let's donate it. And so I picked up a lot, I'd recondition them. And so I had this
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  bright idea. I don't know if you remember this when we used to work together there,
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  to hang up a few of my office, different offices and classroom. And what killed it for me is,
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  I'm sitting there talking to I know some instructional coach or somebody and they're
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  like, it always tells you it's your office because it smells. But you say it smells manly.
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  But and I said, What does that mean? She goes, Well, it just smells like old leather. And I'm
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  like, Oh, I didn't notice it. You know, so so the collections came down and I kind of went through
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  them like, you know, that's a collection you have to maintain, you know, it's like cards,
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  you know, baseball cards, you as long as you put them in a good box,
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  and you don't bend the corners, they stay pretty good, right? Right? leather is a totally different
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  thing to collect. And it does have a funk to it. Each glove has a different funk to it. And,
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  and then they can kind of, you know, if you don't take care of them, right, they'll kind
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  of start to get weird or they'll collect bugs. So yeah, they're, they're their own thing.
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  So, so I had to just keep whittling the pile down. So I think today I'm down to like two gloves
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  from that entire collection. So and they're my old ones, you know, 1920s to 1930s. So
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  so those are the two gloves I got. Okay, well, it was more traditional cards. Yeah.
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  1977. I was in third or maybe fifth grade in Maine and saw Star Wars. And they came out with
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  Star Wars cards. And I loved collecting those. That was my first real thing that I collected
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  other than marbles. marbles is also another thing I collected, I still have the marbles
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  that I had as a kid. Because in Maine, we'd have this thing where we would all play marbles,
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  the whole school would play that. And I still have the marbles from that time, believe it or not.
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  So marbles and cards. And then they also had Marvel, you know, the Hulk,
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  had a bunch of Hulk cards, you know, and we trade with our friends and stuff. And then of course,
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  baseball cards and football cards. I had a bunch of those, love those. And now I think I'm more
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  into still cards, but they're like games. I'm playing this game Magic, the Gathering,
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  any listeners out there, and you collect cards for that too to play.
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  So that's kind of now collecting. So I guess mine would still be cards.
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  Now, now, I'm hearing you, right, you got multiple collections of different things,
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  even to this day. Well, I still have the old marbles. I don't collect marbles still,
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  but I hold on to those. Right, so old marble cards. Right. Cards have been a constant.
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  I've got some kind of cards. And of course, we've talked before, I got like,
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  you know, I've had many hats, baseball caps. And then so I have like, five kayaks,
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  and there's only two of us. And I have like, nine bikes, and there's
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  so I don't know if that's a collection. Right, right. But yeah, I guess now that
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  you know, I'm knocking on 60 here in a couple years. I kind of look at if I'm going to collect
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  something. Is it worth anything to pass on to my kids? You know, or is it just junk I'm collecting
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  because I like it. And I think that kind of helped me over the last decade really kind of
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  get rid of stuff like because it's easy to collect the you know, I collect tools,
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  but I also use tools. But I don't view it as like an investment or something I want to keep,
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  you know, pass on. So yeah, the only real thing I have, I got two things. I got coins.
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  My grandpa out there. Yeah, my grandpa got me started with that. He handed me some
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  some pretty cool coins back in the 70s. And so I just I collected, you know, for a while here
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  and there. You know, I was a kid that went through his change, you know, like any rare coins and
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  change when change was a thing. But I just kept on to that once in a while. I will come across
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  I don't know, silver dollar or something and buy it. It's very rare. I don't think I bought a coin
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  in a couple years. But yeah. And then these two old baseball gloves, if I can keep them conditioned
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  and stuff, you know, they're knocking on 100 years old here pretty soon. So if I keep them in
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  good condition and preserve them, those two items I talked about could be passed on to the next
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  generations. My bikes, no tools, no stuff you use old hats. No one wants my old hats, especially
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  living in Arkansas. I'd be using so unless it was signed. You could pass down. I still have
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  sure of you would be dope. Yeah, well, I still have that hat worn by Nolan Arenado not signed.
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  But according to the guy we bought it from down at Coors Field. Right. So
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  I have to tell you, man, I use that hat. I still have it. But it's, it's, it's, it's, it's retired.
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  Yeah. Yeah, it's starting to get that. It has this has the funk to it. You know how hats go
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  you wear them for 10 years on and off like it's got a bump to it never cleans out. And then things
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  get brittle. You know, it's just there's only so many times you can wash something. And yeah,
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  anyway, especially wool hats back in the day. Oh, yeah. So yeah, so you passing on anything
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  like like the comics, man, those comics, my brother did the comics. And now he gave
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  my son Ryan his comics to collect the 1970s 80s. Right. Early 2000 runs. So actually,
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  as I sit here, I'm looking at them right here. I got 1-234-567-8910 1112 13 boxes of
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  comics me. But right. Brent held on to my dad's forever and then finally decided to sell those
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  but no, I don't really collect comics. That's that's Ryan's thing now. So right. Okay, really?
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  There's really nothing to me either. No,
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  nothing good. Nothing of value to pass on. Right? Yeah, but maybe a signature of someone
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  cool would be well, there you go. I should probably go signature a picture. Okay. You know,
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  it's funny, you know, you go you go to like frame shops and stuff and people bring their
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  signed jerseys into a frame shop and they put it you know, behind glass and a black walnut frame
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  and they got it hanging on their wall of their man cave. You and I are not at that level.
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  Obviously, no, no. Right. But hey, it's fun. But I here's, here's the ultimate though.
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  Say you're not a tennis fan, right? You know, golf fan or anything like that. But Scotty
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  Scheffler, the biggest golfer in the world just happens to be sitting in the restaurant you're
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  sitting at or you bypass him in the airport. Would you being a non fan still get a picture
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  of somebody famous? Even if I was a fan, I do not think I would go up to them and go, Hey,
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  can I get a picture autograph? I do not think I would do that. Just seeing him and having the
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  story of I was in the airport and I saw Scotty, you know, that to me would be would you do the
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  silent, get your iPhone out and you know, and just like, you know, walk away? No, no. Wow.
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  See, I think, I think it's just we're, we're on the older end of Gen X.
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  What would you do? What would you do?
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  I'm torn these days. You know, I, I, my whole life I've been like, Yeah, that's so and so
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  just keep moving. Now, I'd probably just take the picture not with me in it. You know, just
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  as I'm walking by. Oh, yeah, that's someone famous. Walk away, right? Just, just so that
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  I can tell a story about it later. I don't know what I would I lean in and do a selfie? I don't
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  know. I'm gonna have to wait and see on that. See if I find anybody in an airport that's famous.
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  Walking down the street. You are traveling, man. You are. So I don't know. You know, it's like,
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  you know, I don't watch soccer. I'm watching the World Cup right now. But if I saw Messi,
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  you know, getting on his private jet somewhere, would I, you know, I don't know. I don't know.
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  I think we just, that's just our generation. It's like, we didn't do it as kids. So it's not,
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  it's not something I thought about. It's kind of like my Denver Broncos story. I just didn't even
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  think about it. You know, just hanging. And that coach, by the way, is Mike McCoy.
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  So yes, yeah. So I'm a Mike McCoy fan, even though it's been a little rough for him.
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  Trying to be head coaches. It's just so cool him and his wife. I mean, they're a true
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  dude. Come up through the ranks, come up through the ranks. You know, they're just a football
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  family. And it was very cool. So I stood there and talked to him and his wife for at least a
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  half an hour. That's crazy. Okay. The story keeps appealing like an onion. First you're hanging,
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  now you're talking to McCoy. It was North Turner. No, not North Turner.
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  It was this other defensive coach who went on to become the Raiders.
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  Oh, talk to him. Right. Hey, but you know, it's just sometimes life just throws you little bones
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  once in a while, right? Sure. Well, and also you learn things that you did not know. Right.
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  About someone. Right. Like that story. Yeah, I know. We're like best friends. And I can't
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  believe I've never told you that. That's just maybe it's like surreal. I'm like,
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  did that really happen? I don't think that really happened. So anyway, I will go find
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  picture proof though for you. You don't have to. I believe it will affect you all.
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  It was Jack Del Rio. Do you remember that guy? He kind of left under not good.
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  Yeah. He's kind of lame. He kind of went to every team it seemed like and tried and did okay. But
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  never like never. He was never one of those coaches that could close the deal.
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  That's another podcast. Talk about him and others. Yeah, yeah. But guess what, Jason?
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  What? Hey, we're out of time.
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  Hey, this was a good one. Hey, it's a lot of fun. It's a great topic. Love it.
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  Well, friends, until next time, you're listening to Life According to Brian.
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  And Jason. And hey, what would you do?
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  Would you be the person that gets a signature or a picture? Maybe both or none?
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  Let us know in the comments. Thanks for joining us. Bye.