Latest / Nickel City Crew Podcast / S5 E11: Good Vibes
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- 0:04Speaker 1: M Rcon.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Fifteen decrease.
- 0:09Speaker 1: You can see you breath.
- 0:13Speaker 3: Out in the lake effect, breaking tables like get for
- 0:17Speaker 3: would you here?
- 0:20Speaker 2: Wherese would you have to be?
- 0:22Speaker 4: And do ron Elvis in the lay, Panchow remembers that
- 0:27Speaker 4: you need to know. I sut you out here.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Now your family?
- 0:33Speaker 1: Where's would you happy? Where would you have be? Welcome
- 0:40Speaker 1: into the nicol City Crew. I am your host, Rob Crippen.
- 0:45Speaker 5: Please like us on Facebook and follow us on Instagram
- 0:47Speaker 5: and Twitter at Nickel City Crew. This episode, along with
- 0:51Speaker 5: all of our episodes, are presented by Crippen Legacy Entertainment
- 0:54Speaker 5: here on Spreaker and stream Yard. We're so glad that
- 0:57Speaker 5: you're joining us for some of your Buffalo Bills and
- 0:59Speaker 5: NFL content Again today and as always, these are my
- 1:03Speaker 5: Bill's thoughts set out loud.
- 1:06Speaker 2: It survives, So ridiculous two story eighty three six the
- 1:13Speaker 2: show Where's would you like to be?
- 1:20Speaker 5: All right, let's get straight to it. Really really excited
- 1:23Speaker 5: for tonight's episode. A twenty twenty five Buffalo Bill season
- 1:27Speaker 5: is inching closer. At a preseason game Sunday night, we'll
- 1:31Speaker 5: talk about joint practices with the Chicago Bears today. Earlier
- 1:35Speaker 5: in the day in the late afternoon, do you name
- 1:39Speaker 5: me tonight as always my co host writing Shotgun as
- 1:42Speaker 5: always Adam Dump Chuck Rupsick. Check them out on Instagram
- 1:45Speaker 5: and Twitter at Adam Rupsick. Are you Pete c Zyk?
- 1:49Speaker 5: Holla at the Crew DT.
- 1:51Speaker 1: We are getting even closer, You're getting warmer.
- 1:59Speaker 2: It's flying. The summer always does. And man, it's training campspen,
- 2:04Speaker 2: training camps over, training camps over. They're back. They're back
- 2:06Speaker 2: at One Bill's Drive and we're already in the preseason
- 2:10Speaker 2: game two. And it's annoying that it's eight o'clock on
- 2:12Speaker 2: Sunday night, but we'll get into that later. But man, dude, flying,
- 2:16Speaker 2: we're less than a month where you and I are
- 2:17Speaker 2: gonna be on Sunday night sitting in the stadium not
- 2:20Speaker 2: too far from where I am right now.
- 2:22Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:23Speaker 5: Man, it's crazy how fast it's leading up on it,
- 2:26Speaker 5: and it's creeping up on us because of the fact that,
- 2:28Speaker 5: you know, you kind of get those situations where you know,
- 2:31Speaker 5: the summer's just dragging on and everything's dragging on the
- 2:34Speaker 5: off season and the draft.
- 2:35Speaker 1: And you got everything.
- 2:36Speaker 5: Listen, I think our Buffalo Bills DT have kind of
- 2:40Speaker 5: tidied up their last loose ends. On Wednesday morning, when
- 2:45Speaker 5: people are getting ready for work seven thirty in the morning,
- 2:47Speaker 5: Adam Schefter breaks the news. James Cook comes to an
- 2:51Speaker 5: agreement with the Buffalo Bills four years, forty eight million,
- 2:55Speaker 5: thirty million guaranteed. And we'll kind of go over that
- 2:58Speaker 5: because I know that some of those numbers were a
- 2:59Speaker 5: little bit falsified by the agent. But ye, nevertheless, nevertheless, DT,
- 3:05Speaker 5: it was a situation where I don't want to take
- 3:07Speaker 5: a victory of that, but I kind.
- 3:08Speaker 1: Of have to take at least a little jog.
- 3:11Speaker 5: I thought that Brandon Bean knew the importance of this playmaker,
- 3:15Speaker 5: this explosive option in the Bills offense with Josh Allen,
- 3:18Speaker 5: and now this new mantra of everybody eats under Joe Brady.
- 3:20Speaker 5: I thought it was really really important to bring him back.
- 3:23Speaker 5: I didn't think that they would remember. We talked about it,
- 3:25Speaker 5: like you know, That's why I named the episode the
- 3:27Speaker 5: way that I did. I don't think he wanted bad vibes.
- 3:29Speaker 5: He even kind of spoke to that. After the contract extension, DT,
- 3:34Speaker 5: Brandon Bean pulls another one. He has now signed five
- 3:38Speaker 5: draft picks this offseason. And James Cook was the last one,
- 3:42Speaker 5: and it was obviously the most complicated one.
- 3:43Speaker 1: But I'm really glad that it got done. I thought
- 3:46Speaker 1: that it was necessary.
- 3:48Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll see in for what most of them
- 3:51Speaker 2: are on four years. We'll see him four year if
- 3:53Speaker 2: if it was a genius move or you know, we
- 3:56Speaker 2: put us in some cap jail with some players that
- 3:58Speaker 2: didn't perform from us. But I think it's gonna be
- 4:00Speaker 2: the first option. You know, all these players, I think
- 4:03Speaker 2: there's really no no qualms with any of the deals signed.
- 4:08Speaker 2: There was there was some decent sized ones, never two.
- 4:11Speaker 2: There was not the biggest one, but there was not
- 4:13Speaker 2: the smallest one. And I think all this whole draft
- 4:16Speaker 2: class that's got resigned, you know, deserved it, and in
- 4:19Speaker 2: all their ways, they've made plays for this team and
- 4:21Speaker 2: have led us to a inch away from being in
- 4:23Speaker 2: the super Bowl and possibly hoisting the trophy and being
- 4:26Speaker 2: on a super Bowl roster. So we're gonna continue with that.
- 4:29Speaker 2: Last week we talked about four being you know it it,
- 4:33Speaker 2: love it or hate it, just I think it just
- 4:35Speaker 2: gotta happen, Like, get us out of here. We can't
- 4:37Speaker 2: afford any distractions. We can't afford that inch left and
- 4:41Speaker 2: the end of the day, second biggest playmaker on the team,
- 4:44Speaker 2: seventeen needed them, and it got done. It was an
- 4:47Speaker 2: exact deal with what everybody's been talking about the last
- 4:50Speaker 2: three months, which was kind of annoying because it was like,
- 4:52Speaker 2: why did it get to this point if we were
- 4:53Speaker 2: just gonna hit it for the deal that we thought
- 4:55Speaker 2: that was gonna be the deal three months ago, Like,
- 4:58Speaker 2: just do it at that point. But I get there's
- 5:00Speaker 2: business involved in waiting it out, and I think Kyron
- 5:02Speaker 2: Williams really had a lot to do with that. For
- 5:04Speaker 2: the negative of James Cook. You know, I think James
- 5:06Speaker 2: Cook still thought he was up getting the fourteen fifteen,
- 5:09Speaker 2: and then Williams comes with the eleven and he's like,
- 5:11Speaker 2: all right, we'll do twelve and forty eight. So a
- 5:14Speaker 2: lot of the salary cap isn't real YadA yady, this
- 5:17Speaker 2: and that. The burn year at the end, we'll see.
- 5:20Speaker 2: But I don't care about any of that, Rob, I
- 5:22Speaker 2: care about this year right now. This squad's back intact.
- 5:25Speaker 2: Everyone's happy. Now, everyone's got a bag, So go out
- 5:28Speaker 2: and let's get it.
- 5:29Speaker 5: Oh man, you are just you're stealing. We didn't even
- 5:32Speaker 5: have show notes today, and you're stealing. I don't even
- 5:36Speaker 5: have show notes today. We riffing today because it's funny
- 5:39Speaker 5: because everything that I'm thinking about you just have hit on.
- 5:42Speaker 5: In respects to the fact that in some of the
- 5:44Speaker 5: Twitter arguments I've had and stuff like that, like now,
- 5:46Speaker 5: shout out to Greg Thompson, that's Tom P S E. T. T.
- 5:49Speaker 5: That's Greg cover one. Now he's a big time guy.
- 5:53Speaker 5: Hoping to have him on the show pretty soon DT.
- 5:55Speaker 5: But him and I got into some arguments about agents
- 5:58Speaker 5: and about what pushed what across the line, and you
- 6:00Speaker 5: kind of hit on it at the end. When by
- 6:03Speaker 5: the time Wednesday came and it was hours in, I
- 6:05Speaker 5: really didn't I didn't care anymore.
- 6:07Speaker 1: To argue with him. I just you know what I mean.
- 6:08Speaker 5: I kind of just signed off and like, listen, man,
- 6:10Speaker 5: well we'll agree to disagree, because to me, the most
- 6:15Speaker 5: important thing, obviously is that he's on the team. One
- 6:17Speaker 5: of the things that I was kind of fixated on
- 6:20Speaker 5: earlier in that process was like after the seven thirty
- 6:23Speaker 5: the news drops from Schefter was like, well, how did
- 6:26Speaker 5: this deal good?
- 6:26Speaker 1: Across the table?
- 6:27Speaker 5: Because you're absolutely right, I've heard from multiple people that
- 6:31Speaker 5: you know that are in the know that James Cook
- 6:33Speaker 5: was in fact asking for say kwon money or you know,
- 6:36Speaker 5: every money.
- 6:36Speaker 1: He was asking for crazy money. And I look at
- 6:39Speaker 1: it like it's a negotiation. DT. We know what that's like. Listen,
- 6:42Speaker 1: We're gonna shoot for the moon and then we'll settle
- 6:44Speaker 1: on the stars.
- 6:45Speaker 5: We're willing to settle on the stars if we have to,
- 6:48Speaker 5: but we're gonna ask for the moon.
- 6:49Speaker 1: We're going to try to go after the moon.
- 6:50Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you?
- 6:51Speaker 1: You know, I think that's just basic negotiation.
- 6:54Speaker 5: So when it comes to what happened and what didn't happen,
- 6:57Speaker 5: I think that there is no way possible. And Brandon
- 7:00Speaker 5: being kind of spoke to it in his press conference
- 7:03Speaker 5: after the deal that they asked him and said, Brandon,
- 7:05Speaker 5: were you worried about this becoming a little bit of
- 7:07Speaker 5: distraction after the holding started? And he said, you know what, Josh,
- 7:10Speaker 5: I am. I was a little bit worried about you
- 7:12Speaker 5: know what I mean. So my thing was that I
- 7:14Speaker 5: think the holdout worked, the whole in excuse me, worked,
- 7:17Speaker 5: and I think that whether it was the same deal
- 7:20Speaker 5: that he was always offered the entire time, I find
- 7:23Speaker 5: that kind of hard to believe. But fine, if that
- 7:25Speaker 5: was the same deal and he just magically signed it,
- 7:28Speaker 5: because what did Brandon say it and order us for?
- 7:30Speaker 5: In order excuse me, for us to get back to
- 7:32Speaker 5: the table, he had to to practice. So are you
- 7:34Speaker 5: trying to tell me that after he puts that mandate
- 7:37Speaker 5: and Dad says, get your ass in the house, and
- 7:40Speaker 5: he comes back in the house, then all of a sudden,
- 7:41Speaker 5: you get everything that you asked for. I don't believe that.
- 7:44Speaker 5: I think that there was a negotiation the entire way.
- 7:46Speaker 5: I think that when he held out, they were caught
- 7:48Speaker 5: off guard. I don't think that they expected that because
- 7:51Speaker 5: he came to mini camp, came to OTA's training camp,
- 7:55Speaker 5: what he practiced the first seven practices, and then he
- 7:57Speaker 5: takes the hole in. I think he took that approach
- 8:00Speaker 5: because of the fact that the agent was trying to
- 8:01Speaker 5: tell him that what Diana Russini and what Don Pillicero
- 8:04Speaker 5: had reported last week was true. We are we're close
- 8:07Speaker 5: on this thing, and I think it was the guaranteed money.
- 8:09Speaker 5: We're close on this thing. But hold hold in for him,
- 8:13Speaker 5: skip practice and let them know how how much they
- 8:15Speaker 5: really do need you. You're not going out there tomorrow
- 8:18Speaker 5: in a worthless preseason game.
- 8:20Speaker 1: You're not gonna hit a risk injury.
- 8:22Speaker 5: We're gonna We're gonna chill out this entire week, just
- 8:24Speaker 5: to kind of send home the point that that James
- 8:27Speaker 5: Cook matters to the offense.
- 8:28Speaker 1: Let's not play around. And I think it made a difference.
- 8:30Speaker 2: TT I think I respect I respect it. Rob to
- 8:33Speaker 2: be honest, it's a it's a good move. It's in
- 8:34Speaker 2: the negotiative. It doesn't even have to be about football,
- 8:37Speaker 2: just in the negotiation world as business. We're two businessmen
- 8:40Speaker 2: and out there like that's a it's a that's a
- 8:42Speaker 2: good move. That's a good move if it is close
- 8:44Speaker 2: and it's back and forth and the bills are kind
- 8:46Speaker 2: of pulling. We got control. We're the we're the owner,
- 8:49Speaker 2: the commissioner or whatever. All Right, I wanna practice this week.
- 8:52Speaker 2: And then oh, okay, all right, all right, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill.
- 8:55Speaker 2: We got you. Yeah, And I thought that's good. It's
- 8:58Speaker 2: a good it's a good move, and I respect every
- 9:01Speaker 2: bit of it. And Josh Allen said it, and I
- 9:04Speaker 2: think maybe it was on Hard Knocks or just in
- 9:06Speaker 2: an interview this week of like this is like millions
- 9:09Speaker 2: of dollars. This is generational wealth. This is setting up
- 9:12Speaker 2: your family and your kids and your kids kids with
- 9:15Speaker 2: this type of money.
- 9:16Speaker 1: Like we talked about if I had.
- 9:18Speaker 2: A deal like this big at work, like I would
- 9:20Speaker 2: be probably taking the day to like get ready for
- 9:23Speaker 2: it to go in for the negotiation. And because he
- 9:24Speaker 2: doesn't practice, like we're talking millions of dollars, like, so
- 9:29Speaker 2: I can't be on the guy for not practicing. He
- 9:31Speaker 2: played his cards, he did what he had to do.
- 9:33Speaker 2: He came, he he played team, he said said team,
- 9:38Speaker 2: he knew he needed to be there for the team.
- 9:40Speaker 2: And when it was all right, I've been here a
- 9:41Speaker 2: little while, I'm good. Now negotiations are close. I'll chill
- 9:45Speaker 2: out this week, I'll get the deal done, and I'm
- 9:47Speaker 2: back going harder than ever. Now I'll show you why
- 9:49Speaker 2: you paid me these millions of dollars. And that's exactly
- 9:51Speaker 2: what we want from him. So great negotiation tactics, I agree.
- 9:56Speaker 2: It's it's people that are critical of these things are
- 9:59Speaker 2: like so simple minded to be honest, this is this
- 10:03Speaker 2: is this is so much money, Like if this deal
- 10:07Speaker 2: was about to happen in your personal life, it'd be
- 10:10Speaker 2: like you would like I need the day to like
- 10:13Speaker 2: get all my ducks in a row, like be all right,
- 10:15Speaker 2: like this is not uh, this is it is a
- 10:18Speaker 2: big deal, but it's not a big deal. He missed.
- 10:20Speaker 2: It was a negotiation tactic. It worked. Everyone wins, and
- 10:24Speaker 2: hopefully we all win seem four score sixty more touchdowns
- 10:27Speaker 2: this year, and that twelve million is a bargain.
- 10:30Speaker 5: You know, it's funny because you said that, and it
- 10:33Speaker 5: gives me flashbacks and I've got that ps PSTD you
- 10:37Speaker 5: know what I mean from the Stefan Diggs stuff.
- 10:39Speaker 1: Remember when he doesn't come.
- 10:40Speaker 5: To Oga's and everybody wants to fire him and everybody
- 10:43Speaker 5: wants to get him out of town.
- 10:44Speaker 1: DT, You'll be you may be surprised, or you may
- 10:47Speaker 1: not be surprised.
- 10:47Speaker 5: Half of Bill's mantfields ready to ship him out after
- 10:50Speaker 5: Saturday when he skipped the preseason game and I was
- 10:54Speaker 5: on Twitter fighting with people like why why would you
- 10:58Speaker 5: even think that he would want to play in that game,
- 11:01Speaker 5: hat with no deal? First of all, Josh Allen's not playing, Obviously,
- 11:04Speaker 5: Josh is on a different tier. What did McDermott say,
- 11:06Speaker 5: the starter is gonna play probably a quarter so obviously
- 11:09Speaker 5: James Cook's the starter.
- 11:10Speaker 1: He's gonna play probably a quarter.
- 11:12Speaker 5: However, there's no way without my money that I'm stepping
- 11:15Speaker 5: on the field and I'm getting ready to make five
- 11:17Speaker 5: million dollars. And my entire point is that I need
- 11:20Speaker 5: a raise and I am deserving of a raise. So
- 11:22Speaker 5: because of the fact that he thought he deserved a raise,
- 11:25Speaker 5: why would you ever even think that he was gonna
- 11:27Speaker 5: be on the field?
- 11:28Speaker 2: Boy?
- 11:29Speaker 1: Dt was Bill's mafia?
- 11:30Speaker 5: Not all Again, I put my hands up, I would
- 11:33Speaker 5: never accuse all of you half of Bill's mafia, and
- 11:36Speaker 5: y'all know who you are. Was fighting with y'all on
- 11:38Speaker 5: do It or afterwards in Instagram mad and said ship
- 11:41Speaker 5: him out, he's self fish, get rid of him. I'm
- 11:45Speaker 5: sick of this shit.
- 11:45Speaker 1: This.
- 11:46Speaker 5: Then I said, wait, wait, wait, let's can everybody just
- 11:48Speaker 5: slow down and remember that this is the business part
- 11:51Speaker 5: of it. This is not the glitz and glamour part
- 11:53Speaker 5: of it. This is the business part where he is
- 11:55Speaker 5: trying to set up his family. And I don't know
- 11:57Speaker 5: if he's got a lady friend or not. I know
- 11:59Speaker 5: he doesn't have any kids. That doesn't even matter. Down
- 12:02Speaker 5: in the room, listen he's trying to set up himself
- 12:05Speaker 5: and his family or generational wealth. If he does the
- 12:08Speaker 5: right things by the money, his grandkids gonna have a
- 12:11Speaker 5: couple a couple of change, a little bit of change
- 12:13Speaker 5: in their pocket by the time he's long and gone.
- 12:15Speaker 1: So to me, it was a situation.
- 12:17Speaker 5: Where I never fall to the man who tried to
- 12:19Speaker 5: get his money, because that is allowed in the NFL.
- 12:22Speaker 5: You are allowed to negotiate, and if you think you've
- 12:24Speaker 5: outplayed your contract, dt come to the table and let
- 12:28Speaker 5: them know that you think you outplayed it, because why
- 12:30Speaker 5: who wants to be paid less than what they're worth.
- 12:32Speaker 2: Who if you scored, if you scored the equivalent of
- 12:37Speaker 2: sixteen touchdowns in your at personal job last year, if
- 12:41Speaker 2: you put up sixteen to he's at your personal job
- 12:44Speaker 2: last year, you would be like, man, these mfors are
- 12:47Speaker 2: are underpaid me. I need more money and I'm gonna
- 12:50Speaker 2: start dogging it till I get paid more and they
- 12:52Speaker 2: know what they really have. Every single wan would do
- 12:55Speaker 2: that the equivalent of sixteen tuckies at your jobs. Strive
- 12:58Speaker 2: for that Nickel City crew, star for that on this
- 13:01Speaker 2: feel good Friday, to score sixteen toddies at your job
- 13:04Speaker 2: this year. If you can do that, you'll then then
- 13:07Speaker 2: come talk to us about this argument.
- 13:10Speaker 5: Oh man, d T you are so funny when you
- 13:12Speaker 5: are hitting it on the head. I was flabbergasted by it,
- 13:15Speaker 5: but because of the stuff on Diggs, Like I said,
- 13:17Speaker 5: I've got the PTSD. I was not surprised by it,
- 13:20Speaker 5: but I was just it was just, it was it
- 13:22Speaker 5: was wide it was wide ranging.
- 13:24Speaker 1: And just get him, you know, every other person, get
- 13:27Speaker 1: him out of time, get him.
- 13:28Speaker 5: I'm like, why are y'all want to Why do you
- 13:30Speaker 5: want him fired and off of the team because he's trying.
- 13:32Speaker 1: To get a kid.
- 13:33Speaker 2: I didn't have the cake to eat it. You know
- 13:35Speaker 2: you can't.
- 13:37Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense.
- 13:38Speaker 5: Listen, you made a great point about the vibes, and
- 13:42Speaker 5: that's why I named the episode of the way that
- 13:44Speaker 5: I did, because at your job, when you're happy, Listen,
- 13:47Speaker 5: I a business owner, you know what I mean, running
- 13:50Speaker 5: managing people different things like that.
- 13:52Speaker 1: A happy, happy employee is the best employee.
- 13:55Speaker 5: Now, that doesn't mean that I'm giving him or her
- 13:58Speaker 5: x amount of dollars above their value. I might be
- 14:01Speaker 5: paying him right on value and then giving some bonus incentives,
- 14:04Speaker 5: but listen, if I treat them right, if I treat
- 14:06Speaker 5: them with respect, if I'm making sure that I'm buying
- 14:09Speaker 5: lunch on Fridays, if.
- 14:10Speaker 1: I'm doing different things like that.
- 14:12Speaker 5: I have found that a happy a happy employee is
- 14:15Speaker 5: the best employee. I do not think Brandon Bean wanted
- 14:19Speaker 5: that smoke, as the kids would say, when it came
- 14:21Speaker 5: to the twenty twenty five year. We talked about it
- 14:23Speaker 5: in the beginning of season five, DT about how I
- 14:26Speaker 5: was worried about that. That was the only thing I
- 14:28Speaker 5: was worried about. If you want to make him play
- 14:30Speaker 5: out his workie contract, that's fine. That's your prerogative, Buffalo Bills,
- 14:33Speaker 5: that's your prerogative. Brandon Bean. He might be pissed about it,
- 14:37Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And I just didn't think
- 14:39Speaker 5: that it was worth it. Clearly Brandon Bing didn't think
- 14:41Speaker 5: that he was worth it. Bill's Mafi, you want to
- 14:43Speaker 5: know the numbers. You could check him out a Buffalo Rumbling.
- 14:45Speaker 5: Shout out to Sarah Larson over there at Buffalo Rumblings.
- 14:48Speaker 5: I know we got our friend from Fernando Schmood out
- 14:51Speaker 5: there in Brazil. He's a partner with her over there,
- 14:53Speaker 5: A Buffalo rumming, and she broke it down perfectly.
- 14:54Speaker 1: Today I checked it over. DT's absolutely right.
- 14:57Speaker 5: It's actually eleven a half a year thirty million guaranteed,
- 15:01Speaker 5: included the five million that he was already getting paid
- 15:04Speaker 5: this year. So that's just classic agent inflation. And you know,
- 15:08Speaker 5: everybody greasing everybody's palms. They tell Adam Schefter, you know,
- 15:11Speaker 5: put this out is thirty million guaranteed, and down the road,
- 15:14Speaker 5: I'm gonna be hooking you up with different information. So
- 15:16Speaker 5: you know what I mean that type of thing. So
- 15:18Speaker 5: it's not really thirty million guaranteed. It's really just a
- 15:21Speaker 5: it's essentially a three year, thirty million.
- 15:24Speaker 1: Dollar contract DT. That's what it is.
- 15:25Speaker 5: They've got outs after year four where they can kind
- 15:28Speaker 5: of skate away from this thing if it's not going
- 15:30Speaker 5: well or if he starts to age. But I thought
- 15:32Speaker 5: that Brandon Bean was spot on when he talked about
- 15:34Speaker 5: the tread on the tires. This guy has not played
- 15:38Speaker 5: much at Georgia. He was a backup. Then he came
- 15:41Speaker 5: here and he backed up Devon Singletary. Then he got
- 15:43Speaker 5: the mantle and he was not a bell cow. This
- 15:46Speaker 5: is not a guy with some crazy amount of tread
- 15:48Speaker 5: on his tires. I know he turns twenty six. I
- 15:50Speaker 5: think next month in September. No problem, twenty six, twenty seven,
- 15:55Speaker 5: twenty eight seasons. I mean, I think I can squeeze
- 15:58Speaker 5: the most out of that juice DT.
- 16:00Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I I started realizing in the that's this
- 16:03Speaker 2: week when they were talking about it, the tread on
- 16:05Speaker 2: the tires. That's huge, especially for running backs. Rob Like,
- 16:09Speaker 2: there's no old running backs. There's like two in our history,
- 16:12Speaker 2: like Adrian Peterson and you know, like jarn Henry like
- 16:17Speaker 2: what else, Like there's no old running backs. So yeah,
- 16:20Speaker 2: that is that is huge. And just being kind of
- 16:23Speaker 2: coming into his own, just like Josh Allen coming into
- 16:26Speaker 2: his own in the NFL. You know, he he was
- 16:29Speaker 2: always talented, always versatile, didn't play only played forty seven
- 16:32Speaker 2: percent of the snaps for US last year with sixteen touchdowns,
- 16:35Speaker 2: played under half the snaps with sixteen tonnies. So I
- 16:38Speaker 2: love it. He's fresh, he's elusive, he's great, he's everything
- 16:41Speaker 2: you know we need for that change of pace. Worth
- 16:44Speaker 2: every penny we did. Just because Ray Davis and Ty
- 16:46Speaker 2: Johnson are good doesn't mean we couldn't put a weapon
- 16:48Speaker 2: of four in there and we bitch and bitch and
- 16:50Speaker 2: bitch that there's no wide receiver weapons, there's no weapons
- 16:53Speaker 2: on this team. Well four is the biggest playmaker other
- 16:56Speaker 2: than seventeen, so it had to get done. It was
- 16:58Speaker 2: relative reasonable and we move on.
- 17:03Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 17:03Speaker 5: I mean I think that it's it's not only just reasonable,
- 17:07Speaker 5: I think that it was in line with the market.
- 17:08Speaker 1: We talked about.
- 17:09Speaker 5: You talked about Kyrin Williams in the contract that he
- 17:12Speaker 5: signed the previous week, and everybody kind of started, what
- 17:15Speaker 5: do we say, Like, Okay, this might be the template,
- 17:17Speaker 5: this might move into negotiations along. And I think that
- 17:19Speaker 5: you're absolutely right that it might have hurt James Cook
- 17:22Speaker 5: on the bottom dollar. But you know, you can't you
- 17:25Speaker 5: can't really balk at thirty million dollars. I mean you
- 17:27Speaker 5: can't balk at it. You gotta take it. And it's
- 17:29Speaker 5: a situation where the position that he plays, he would
- 17:32Speaker 5: have been smart to take it, and obviously he would
- 17:34Speaker 5: have been dumb to not take it. So I'm really happy.
- 17:36Speaker 5: It's good vibes all around. It's not anything that you
- 17:39Speaker 5: want it as a distraction. I never wanted to think
- 17:41Speaker 5: what is James Cook doing on this third down run?
- 17:43Speaker 5: As he approaches the sideline or as he approaches the
- 17:46Speaker 5: whole is he is he making business decisions and different
- 17:48Speaker 5: things like that. All of that type of stuff is nightmarish.
- 17:51Speaker 5: We remember Bill's Mafia thinking about that kind of stuff
- 17:54Speaker 5: with Stefan Gilmour back in the day, like, man, I
- 17:55Speaker 5: don't think we're gonna be able to keep this guy.
- 17:57Speaker 5: He looks like he wants to get out, and then
- 17:59Speaker 5: all of a sudden, and you know, he doesn't make
- 18:01Speaker 5: a tackle, and what's the postgame show doing? All They're
- 18:03Speaker 5: doing this flood and calls, you know, bashing Stefan Gilmore
- 18:06Speaker 5: because they thought he made a business decision on a tackle.
- 18:09Speaker 5: I didn't want that. I didn't want any of that
- 18:10Speaker 5: type of drama. I thought that it's unnecessary. And as
- 18:13Speaker 5: we transition, I think that it's important for the twenty
- 18:16Speaker 5: twenty five Buffalo Bills to have all eyes focused because
- 18:21Speaker 5: as we're getting ready to talk about we still got some.
- 18:22Speaker 1: Misery shit we got to work through.
- 18:24Speaker 5: So I'm not in the least bit sweating this thing
- 18:28Speaker 5: if you are one of Bill's Mafia as we transitioned before.
- 18:30Speaker 5: But I gotta I gotta say this to the people
- 18:32Speaker 5: that I've been fighting with on Twitter. If you're one
- 18:34Speaker 5: of Bill's mafia that says running back is replaceable, I
- 18:37Speaker 5: understand what you mean overall, your overall viewpoint, I understand it. Yes,
- 18:43Speaker 5: running back is replaceable. However, the explosiveness is not. So.
- 18:48Speaker 1: If James Cook.
- 18:48Speaker 5: If I hand the ball off to James Cook and
- 18:51Speaker 5: he beats around the edge and then he beats the
- 18:53Speaker 5: safety on an angle and he takes what should have
- 18:56Speaker 5: been maybe a seven yard run, and he takes it
- 18:58Speaker 5: to the house, it's hard to quantify his replaceable value
- 19:04Speaker 5: because Ty Johnson plus Ray Davis, they might get the
- 19:08Speaker 5: seven yards, they might get five, they might get twelve.
- 19:12Speaker 5: Neither one of them are breaking down to the house.
- 19:14Speaker 5: And I just I just it. Yeah, I think it's invaluable.
- 19:17Speaker 5: I think, and it's not always a touchdown. Explosively they say,
- 19:21Speaker 5: they define explosive place for running back as fifteen yards
- 19:24Speaker 5: and over.
- 19:24Speaker 1: James Cook feasts on that type of shit.
- 19:26Speaker 5: I mean, how many highlights did we see of him
- 19:28Speaker 5: last year feasting on big runs, taking something that could
- 19:32Speaker 5: have been small, and I mean making it a much
- 19:35Speaker 5: bigger deal. His speed is real deal, man. He beats,
- 19:37Speaker 5: he beats safeties with the angles, he beats.
- 19:39Speaker 2: Them, and he's gotten better between the tackles, and he's
- 19:42Speaker 2: become more prevalent. He's become more more relevant in the
- 19:45Speaker 2: passing game, especially as seventeen matures more. He's checking down,
- 19:49Speaker 2: he's finding the running back, he's finding the wheel route
- 19:51Speaker 2: more than he ever has. And also with you know,
- 19:55Speaker 2: he with him getting better between the tackles, that's like
- 19:59Speaker 2: these short yards situations that now that's just another weapon
- 20:02Speaker 2: to have in there instead of the tushbush for Josh
- 20:04Speaker 2: Allen that we all know is crazy. So we're so
- 20:08Speaker 2: close every year, Rob, we have to be perfect doesn't exist, right,
- 20:12Speaker 2: But there's great and then there's close to perfect, and
- 20:15Speaker 2: you have to be close to perfect to have any
- 20:17Speaker 2: chance in this league. It's just straight up, you have
- 20:20Speaker 2: to be close to perfect. And a distraction like this,
- 20:23Speaker 2: just like you said, a possibility of James Cook taking
- 20:26Speaker 2: business decisions brings us automatically out of that tier. Just
- 20:30Speaker 2: something little like that brings us out of the tier.
- 20:33Speaker 2: So get it done, be close to perfect, Let's try
- 20:36Speaker 2: to do it again.
- 20:37Speaker 1: Let's try to do it again, is absolutely right.
- 20:39Speaker 5: Tonight's episode presented by and sponsored by taste of Buffalo
- 20:45Speaker 5: PIZZAI excuse me here in Huntersville, North Carolina. Down here
- 20:48Speaker 5: where I am in Charlotte. I know.
- 20:49Speaker 1: Listen, Buffalo, y'all don't need it. Where DT is, You'll
- 20:52Speaker 1: have pizza spots and great subshots on every other corner
- 20:56Speaker 1: in every town in Western York.
- 20:58Speaker 5: It's one of the most It's literally probably number one
- 21:02Speaker 5: besides the bills. It's number two. Besides the bills. In
- 21:05Speaker 5: my family it's it's number three. Then is the food.
- 21:07Speaker 5: I missed the Buffalo food so much. Listen, when I
- 21:09Speaker 5: go to taste a Buffalo pizzaia DT, I feel like
- 21:12Speaker 5: I'm back at home.
- 21:13Speaker 1: What is that?
- 21:14Speaker 5: Uh?
- 21:14Speaker 1: I don't even remember.
- 21:15Speaker 5: I know that after every Bill's game, I either could
- 21:17Speaker 5: get gems on the late night tip or I can
- 21:20Speaker 5: or I can hit up one of the Oh man,
- 21:21Speaker 5: I can't remember that one spot that's over to like
- 21:23Speaker 5: four am, and I always hit them up.
- 21:26Speaker 1: Oh man, I can't remember, But listen doesn't matter.
- 21:28Speaker 5: Buffalo's got plenty of great food, plenty of great pizza,
- 21:31Speaker 5: plenty of great subs and wings. Listen, taste the Buffalo
- 21:34Speaker 5: pizzeria down here in Huntersville, North Carolina. Any of the
- 21:37Speaker 5: bills mafia down here, Charlotte. Ya gotta hit them up.
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- 21:51Speaker 5: is right now.
- 21:52Speaker 2: Now we get a pie ind October rockets.
- 21:55Speaker 1: You did right. We get a lot more than the pie.
- 21:57Speaker 1: We get a lot.
- 21:57Speaker 5: I've been working on a lot of things. They good people's, man,
- 22:01Speaker 5: I've been I've been going to them ever since I
- 22:03Speaker 5: moved down here. Man, they do honestly all jokes as that.
- 22:06Speaker 5: They make me feel like I'm back on with their food.
- 22:08Speaker 5: It is nostalgic now, DT I it's funny as we
- 22:13Speaker 5: transition bills are in Chicago. The windy City, for those
- 22:16Speaker 5: of you don't know, it is not because it is windy.
- 22:19Speaker 5: It is because of all the political jarget and stuff
- 22:22Speaker 5: that used to be going around back in the nineteen
- 22:24Speaker 5: hundreds and now capone and stuff like that. That's why
- 22:27Speaker 5: they called it the windy City. But I know that
- 22:29Speaker 5: it's lazy. Everybody thinks it's because it's windy. It's not
- 22:32Speaker 5: because it's windy. It's because of a lot of other
- 22:35Speaker 5: stuff back in the nineteen hundreds. Listen, DT bills are
- 22:39Speaker 5: in the windy city, and news came out today from
- 22:42Speaker 5: South Capaco. He was following joint practice. I know that
- 22:46Speaker 5: a lot of bills. Malfia is hoping like I'm hoping
- 22:49Speaker 5: that hopefully everything went well today and you don't have
- 22:52Speaker 5: to put out any of the starters on Sunday night.
- 22:55Speaker 1: I don't know what Sean mcdummer's thinking.
- 22:57Speaker 5: I know that Josh Allen said, I don't think I
- 22:58Speaker 5: need it, but if they tell me to go out there,
- 23:00Speaker 5: I will. What did you hear from today from joint practice?
- 23:04Speaker 5: Because I was following on Buffalo Rumlands Sal Capaca's posts.
- 23:07Speaker 1: Looks like there was some plays made. Looks like the
- 23:09Speaker 1: defense was giving up some stuff too, from what I hear.
- 23:12Speaker 5: But listen, it's it's a it's a control practice, and
- 23:16Speaker 5: I almost think that it's better than a preseason game
- 23:18Speaker 5: because you can manufacture your own scenarios.
- 23:22Speaker 1: You can't do that in a preseason game.
- 23:23Speaker 5: I used to say, go ahead and knock out the
- 23:26Speaker 5: preseason all together, and just NFL Network air the live
- 23:29Speaker 5: joint practices and and viewers.
- 23:31Speaker 1: I mean, we watched the fucking draft. We watched you
- 23:34Speaker 1: watched the draft. Combine, I would I would.
- 23:36Speaker 2: Rather watch a joint practice than as I.
- 23:40Speaker 1: Would I would.
- 23:41Speaker 5: I think that you it's more beneficial, and that's universal.
- 23:44Speaker 5: I'm not that's not a hot take. Everybody that you
- 23:46Speaker 5: talk to within the coaching community and fans that follow
- 23:49Speaker 5: it have all said that you get more productive work.
- 23:52Speaker 5: How about that? Can everybody give me that it's more
- 23:55Speaker 5: productive work. I understand that the preseason games are cool
- 23:57Speaker 5: for the kids to go to when it's not as
- 23:59Speaker 5: rowdy of an atmosphere as it is for a regular season,
- 24:01Speaker 5: but DT, what did.
- 24:02Speaker 1: You hear about it today?
- 24:03Speaker 5: They did joint practice today with the Chicago Bears in Chicago,
- 24:07Speaker 5: and we've got a game coming up on Sunday night.
- 24:10Speaker 5: I hope that McDermott saw everything you needed to see.
- 24:13Speaker 1: Let those let everybody.
- 24:15Speaker 5: Deane Doggins had a back this week, like, let everybody
- 24:18Speaker 5: just chill on Sunday. They don't need to go out there.
- 24:20Speaker 2: I agree, And again, it's so annoying eight o'clock Sunday, Like,
- 24:24Speaker 2: come on, We're gonna have so many primetime games during
- 24:26Speaker 2: the season. Put this preseason game at one o'clock and
- 24:29Speaker 2: let's get the hell out of here, like come on,
- 24:32Speaker 2: Like but whatever today, the couple things I heard, some
- 24:37Speaker 2: of the obvious obviously seventeen didn't miss. I mean, that's
- 24:40Speaker 2: what we hear always, and that's what we see literally always.
- 24:44Speaker 2: So whatever I heard, Keon coleman ate a little bit,
- 24:48Speaker 2: which is nice. What my biggest takeaway of Keon coleman
- 24:51Speaker 2: eating is a situation like this, this is giving Zero
- 24:56Speaker 2: confidence like seventeen's doing this on purpose. Seventeen's doing this
- 24:59Speaker 2: on purpose, like all right, we're gonna put you up
- 25:01Speaker 2: against these dudes. I'm gonna I'm gonna give you some.
- 25:04Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you some. You're gonna come down with them,
- 25:06Speaker 2: and you're gonna know you can dog on dudes. And
- 25:08Speaker 2: I think that's crucial for this for Zero to be
- 25:11Speaker 2: because he is lives off that energy. He's got that
- 25:14Speaker 2: dog in him a little bit, and he lives off
- 25:16Speaker 2: the hype and the and that kind of like Stefan
- 25:18Speaker 2: Diggs did in a way different players completely, but you
- 25:21Speaker 2: know he played better under the under the under the juice.
- 25:25Speaker 2: So I love seventeen giving him looks what I was
- 25:29Speaker 2: concerned was Capacio was saying good football on both sides.
- 25:34Speaker 2: It was just a good team practice. And so what
- 25:36Speaker 2: that tells me is that they were beating our ass.
- 25:39Speaker 2: At one point of this practice, I.
- 25:41Speaker 5: Heard that they were getting a lot of stuff on
- 25:43Speaker 5: the defense. I heard getting a lot of things that
- 25:45Speaker 5: they wanted on the DAR. That's that's how what I
- 25:47Speaker 5: heard through the grapevine, a lot.
- 25:48Speaker 2: Of things they wanted on the d last week in
- 25:50Speaker 2: the preseason, they got a lot of things they wanted,
- 25:52Speaker 2: like some the boys, like some of the most laughable
- 25:55Speaker 2: quarterbacks and backup quarterbacks forgetting whatever they wanted. So, hey,
- 25:59Speaker 2: we're not overreacting, but we'd like to see a little
- 26:02Speaker 2: more intensity. And that's what we were talking about this
- 26:04Speaker 2: year in training camp is with this defense. Is like
- 26:06Speaker 2: there's so many open jobs, Like we want to see
- 26:08Speaker 2: dogs like out there and like a little bit of
- 26:10Speaker 2: Tanassi to this defense, not the men don't break whatever,
- 26:14Speaker 2: but like a little more like meanness to it. So
- 26:17Speaker 2: we'll see again, not overreacting, but knowing that it's Cabaccio saying, yeah,
- 26:21Speaker 2: we got our ask kicked a little bit on defense.
- 26:24Speaker 1: I mean, it is what it is.
- 26:27Speaker 5: I really, I am reserving the right to panic because
- 26:32Speaker 5: you know, shout out w g R Jeremy White preseason pledge.
- 26:35Speaker 5: I take the preseason pledge. I didn't care last week.
- 26:38Speaker 5: I really don't care what happened Sunday either. It really
- 26:41Speaker 5: does come down to me about injuries. And as we
- 26:44Speaker 5: talk about injuries, you know there's some guys that are
- 26:46Speaker 5: still nursing some good a little bit of good news.
- 26:48Speaker 5: Josh Palmer came back DT. It sounds like the safety
- 26:51Speaker 5: tandem came back, rapping Bishop. Not only coming back in
- 26:55Speaker 5: a limited fashion, but I heard that they participated today.
- 26:58Speaker 5: I think that it's important because I was prompted to
- 27:02Speaker 5: listen to Greg Coleman by WGR this morning. Jeremy White
- 27:07Speaker 5: was talking about how Brett Coleman had like this little
- 27:10Speaker 5: piece on YouTube talking about just the twenty twenty five
- 27:13Speaker 5: bills as we approached the season, and talked about how
- 27:16Speaker 5: like they were scared of their safeties last year. So
- 27:19Speaker 5: of at work, I'm not doing anything but just making calls.
- 27:21Speaker 5: And I was like, let me listen to it. And
- 27:23Speaker 5: like McDermott changed his defense last year and he in
- 27:29Speaker 5: respects to the secondary and what they do and cover
- 27:31Speaker 5: four versus you know what I mean those half quarter
- 27:35Speaker 5: quarter and like DT, I'm kind of concerned because I've.
- 27:38Speaker 1: Never been really a big believer in Bishop.
- 27:41Speaker 5: I understand that is his athletic scores and all that
- 27:44Speaker 5: type of stuff are through the roof. But I do
- 27:47Speaker 5: think then injury prone is a thing I do now
- 27:49Speaker 5: that now I could be in the minority on that.
- 27:51Speaker 5: Excuse me. I know that not everybody thinks about it.
- 27:54Speaker 5: Everybody sometimes think that it's luck. I do think that,
- 27:58Speaker 5: not that you're you got into so you will get injured,
- 28:01Speaker 5: but there could be certain things about your body that
- 28:03Speaker 5: just this dude can't stay on the field.
- 28:05Speaker 1: Man, I need him on the field. I need him
- 28:08Speaker 1: on the field.
- 28:09Speaker 5: You don't know how many people were talking shit about
- 28:11Speaker 5: Damorrow handling on Twitter after the game.
- 28:13Speaker 1: Great effort Tomorrow on that when he got like he
- 28:15Speaker 1: already got beat on the angle. What do you want
- 28:17Speaker 1: him to do?
- 28:18Speaker 5: You want him in the preseason to to sprint and
- 28:21Speaker 5: then dive into goal line to not even catch the
- 28:23Speaker 5: guy he got beat on the angle. I'm not more
- 28:25Speaker 5: excited about Tomorrow Heimeland playing back there than anyone else
- 28:28Speaker 5: but the Bishop.
- 28:30Speaker 1: You got to you gotta be there, man, like I
- 28:31Speaker 1: need you. And it sounded like Sean.
- 28:33Speaker 5: McDermott was a little bit perturbed last week when he
- 28:36Speaker 5: was talking about the injuries. He's not that, He's like, oh,
- 28:39Speaker 5: you know, Cole wants to be out there. These guys
- 28:41Speaker 5: all want to be out there. He's like, it's time.
- 28:43Speaker 5: And I think that I think that that is the
- 28:44Speaker 5: right tone to strike. It's it's kind of time to
- 28:47Speaker 5: like get on the practice field.
- 28:49Speaker 1: Man.
- 28:49Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that he knows, you know, he knows that,
- 28:52Speaker 2: Like that was the biggest thing last year where he
- 28:54Speaker 2: didn't have that time then in the training camp and
- 28:56Speaker 2: then it it stuck with him all season and then
- 28:59Speaker 2: it came time for where we really needed them to
- 29:01Speaker 2: play late in the year and he just wasn't ready,
- 29:04Speaker 2: you know. And and so it is like it's not
- 29:07Speaker 2: rocket science there, Like Shawn's exactly right, like it is
- 29:10Speaker 2: time boys, let's go, like I get your hurt, but
- 29:12Speaker 2: like you are the like you are the peace to this,
- 29:17Speaker 2: Like we need you. We don't got anybody else. We
- 29:19Speaker 2: just paid a running back forty mail. We don't have
- 29:20Speaker 2: any more money, so.
- 29:23Speaker 1: This is it.
- 29:24Speaker 2: But yeah, I agree, I like the urgency I like
- 29:27Speaker 2: that kind of hardest, hard assness of it, like cause
- 29:30Speaker 2: the league probably has gotten a little softer. And I'm
- 29:32Speaker 2: not saying these guys aren't hurt and they should be
- 29:34Speaker 2: out there. I'm not saying anything like that, but hey,
- 29:37Speaker 2: like we're again close to perfect. Great like to be
- 29:41Speaker 2: close to perfect this. You are part of this game plan,
- 29:44Speaker 2: you are part of this scheme. We need you to
- 29:45Speaker 2: be out here. And if you're feeling it a little
- 29:48Speaker 2: bit and you probably could go, we need you to go.
- 29:50Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of I kind of need you to
- 29:52Speaker 5: get on the field and gets some reps in if
- 29:54Speaker 5: you can. And again the preseason game is notwithstanding. I
- 29:57Speaker 5: don't need those guys. I don't need to see them
- 29:59Speaker 5: on Sunday night. I just need I need them to
- 30:02Speaker 5: be practicing for sure as we as we started.
- 30:04Speaker 2: I like the intensity. You know, a good, good roster
- 30:07Speaker 2: in Chicago out there. So I'm sure there was some banging.
- 30:10Speaker 2: I'm sure there was some banging today and I like that.
- 30:12Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't need Sunday night because I don't
- 30:15Speaker 2: want to watch Sunday Night.
- 30:15Speaker 4: So what.
- 30:17Speaker 1: I just I just know what this starter is to
- 30:19Speaker 1: get hurt.
- 30:20Speaker 5: The DT is just the test of the fact that
- 30:22Speaker 5: he has to watch Sunday night excuse me, Sunday night
- 30:25Speaker 5: football on Fox.
- 30:26Speaker 2: And I already gotta do this. I already gotta do
- 30:28Speaker 2: this so much. I already got to show up to
- 30:30Speaker 2: work all all. You know, Puffy, Yeah, I love it.
- 30:35Speaker 1: I love it.
- 30:35Speaker 5: Now listen as we transition. It's funny because DT, yes,
- 30:40Speaker 5: the season is getting closer. Now, why did that aim
- 30:42Speaker 5: the episode the way that I did? Good vibes? And
- 30:45Speaker 5: and now everybody should be able to get in a
- 30:47Speaker 5: chance to start to embracing those good vibes. Boy, will
- 30:50Speaker 5: I tell you that Mike Greenberg try to ship on
- 30:55Speaker 5: those good vibes the other night? And it was funny
- 30:58Speaker 5: because everything that you're about to hear Bill's Mafia Nickel
- 31:01Speaker 5: City Crew is true.
- 31:03Speaker 1: It is all factual.
- 31:06Speaker 5: The problem that I have with it is that I
- 31:08Speaker 5: don't really know what I'm supposed to do with it
- 31:11Speaker 5: because nothing is changing right now, obviously, and I'm not
- 31:14Speaker 5: looking for anything to change right now. Obviously. I have
- 31:17Speaker 5: my preferences. Everybody eats, we don't. We're not backtracking, We're
- 31:20Speaker 5: heading forward. Listen, this is what it is. But if
- 31:23Speaker 5: you didn't hear it on Twitter or Instagram. It has
- 31:26Speaker 5: been passed around, and it's funny because I tagged everybody
- 31:30Speaker 5: DT at WGR, I tagged the morning host, the afternoon host.
- 31:35Speaker 1: I tagged everybody I could at WGR, and then I
- 31:38Speaker 1: woke up this morning.
- 31:39Speaker 5: And I'm not saying that it's because of me, because
- 31:41Speaker 5: obviously the actual clip was floating around, but DT, Mike
- 31:47Speaker 5: Greenberg on NFL get up.
- 31:48Speaker 1: Becu's not NFL, but ESPN get up.
- 31:50Speaker 5: The other morning, he went over how Josh Allen is
- 31:53Speaker 5: the best quarterback to never appear in the Super Bowl,
- 31:56Speaker 5: and he laid out a case where it's not even debatable,
- 31:58Speaker 5: and it's not the only other person that be close
- 32:00Speaker 5: to him is Lamar Jackson. Lamar and Josh haven't had
- 32:03Speaker 5: the same type of playoff success. He not only laid
- 32:06Speaker 5: out how Josh Allen has been the best quarterback in
- 32:10Speaker 5: playoff history and.
- 32:12Speaker 1: He's got the stats here about to hear it.
- 32:14Speaker 5: He's got the stats to prove it, but DT, he
- 32:16Speaker 5: also laid out how it's historic how much we've been lacking.
- 32:21Speaker 5: And I think that that is the thing that strikes
- 32:24Speaker 5: a tenor with a lot of the Bills Mafia and
- 32:26Speaker 5: obviously does with me. We've talked about it at nauseum.
- 32:30Speaker 5: Terry Pagoula is probably not making a change anytime soon,
- 32:34Speaker 5: in part because of the Buffalo Sabers, how shitty they are,
- 32:37Speaker 5: and the fact that he got you know, quote unquote
- 32:40Speaker 5: lucky getting Sean McDermott. Brandon Bean comes in. Then they
- 32:45Speaker 5: draft Josh Allen. It works, you know what I mean.
- 32:47Speaker 5: And not to take away credit for them drafting Josh
- 32:50Speaker 5: or anything like that, they picked him and it worked.
- 32:51Speaker 5: They didn't pick Josh Roseen, so we'll give them their
- 32:54Speaker 5: flowers on that. But it's kind of a situation, DT,
- 32:57Speaker 5: where what did we talk about before? I don't know
- 33:01Speaker 5: how unless we are ravaged by injuries, which everyone loves
- 33:05Speaker 5: to talk about, I don't I don't know how many much,
- 33:07Speaker 5: how many more years I can do this, DT. I'm
- 33:10Speaker 5: not saying Nickel City crew. I'm not saying being a
- 33:12Speaker 5: Bills fan. I'm talking about believing. I've believed now since
- 33:16Speaker 5: the AFC Championship Game when we got blown out. The
- 33:20Speaker 5: next year, I thought we could win the Super Bowl.
- 33:21Speaker 5: I have felt that way, DT, coming into every single season,
- 33:25Speaker 5: just like twenty twenty five, I feel like we can
- 33:27Speaker 5: win the.
- 33:27Speaker 1: Super Bowl this year.
- 33:28Speaker 5: I felt like that back in thirteen seconds year going
- 33:31Speaker 5: into that season after that AFC Championship game. I have
- 33:34Speaker 5: felt like that twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, twenty four,
- 33:37Speaker 5: I felt like that. And the way that Mike Greenberg
- 33:42Speaker 5: talked about the stats and laid them out it really
- 33:45Speaker 5: I mean I said it on Twitter. Man, this shit
- 33:47Speaker 5: is sobering, Like I like, holy crap, DT, And you
- 33:50Speaker 5: listened to the Clipper.
- 33:51Speaker 1: We'll play it for the audience. You listen to it
- 33:52Speaker 1: as well. It's it's not a fun listen DT.
- 33:57Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not, man, it's it's it's tough. It's
- 34:03Speaker 2: like what we talk like, we're not just being homers
- 34:05Speaker 2: here Rob when we say this when he's not a
- 34:07Speaker 2: Philip Rivers. He's not a Drew Drew Brees got one.
- 34:11Speaker 2: He's not He's not a damn Marino. Like this dude
- 34:14Speaker 2: is one of the greatest of all time. Like we
- 34:16Speaker 2: will never especially on the bills, but we're never gonna
- 34:20Speaker 2: especially on the bills, but we probably won't see another
- 34:22Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL like this. Like he is unstoppable,
- 34:26Speaker 2: He's bigger, faster, stronger, than everyone. He's got up armed
- 34:30Speaker 2: better than everyone. He is now smarter than everyone like
- 34:34Speaker 2: he he's unstoppable and and the stats prove it. And
- 34:39Speaker 2: we're not just being homers, And yeah it is tough.
- 34:42Speaker 2: Are you gonna play it?
- 34:43Speaker 5: Is?
- 34:44Speaker 1: I have done, and I know that every and everybody's
- 34:46Speaker 1: heard it.
- 34:48Speaker 5: But for those members of Bills Mafia and Nicol City
- 34:51Speaker 5: Crew are some of our listeners have had it. This
- 34:53Speaker 5: is Mike Greenberg again on ESPN's Get Up. This was
- 34:55Speaker 5: yesterday and when I caught it. I did not catch
- 34:58Speaker 5: this until lately last night DT. When I tell you
- 35:01Speaker 5: that we've been having some conversations on Twitter today between
- 35:05Speaker 5: the boppy it has been crazy. Some Chiefs fans have
- 35:08Speaker 5: timed in in our trolling and you'll never beat fifteen
- 35:11Speaker 5: and I mean we have had a battle over Please
- 35:15Speaker 5: listen to Mike Greenberg. He's a professional and he lays
- 35:18Speaker 5: it out very eloquently.
- 35:22Speaker 3: In this twenty twenty five NFL season, for various players
- 35:25Speaker 3: we stumbled onto this. Josh Allen has the chance to
- 35:29Speaker 3: remove his name from a place that no name ever
- 35:32Speaker 3: wants to occupy.
- 35:33Speaker 4: Name Lee the.
- 35:34Speaker 3: Greatest quarterback never to play in a Super Bowl because
- 35:38Speaker 3: he is that and it's getting.
- 35:39Speaker 4: Late early for his chances. Let me explain.
- 35:42Speaker 3: Allen has already started.
- 35:43Speaker 4: Thirteen playoff games.
- 35:45Speaker 3: The most that any quarterback ever started before making the
- 35:49Speaker 3: big game was twelve. Alan has thrown twenty five postseason touchdowns.
- 35:53Speaker 3: The most anyone else threw before making.
- 35:55Speaker 4: The Super Bowl was just seventeen.
- 35:57Speaker 3: That was, by the way, is well behind the curve,
- 36:01Speaker 3: and candidly, it's not as though he can play much better.
- 36:04Speaker 3: The numbers say he might be the best postseason quarterback ever.
- 36:09Speaker 3: He's twenty five playoff touchdowns. There are a total of
- 36:13Speaker 3: twenty one quarterbacks who're thrown at least twenty. He's the
- 36:16Speaker 3: only one not to start a Super Bowl and his
- 36:19Speaker 3: four playoff runs that ended in losses to Kansas City.
- 36:22Speaker 3: Allen has accounted for twenty eight touchdowns and one turnover.
- 36:26Speaker 3: That is across ten games and four hundred and twenty
- 36:30Speaker 3: four passes and runs. Station ratio in the playoffs by
- 36:34Speaker 3: a wide margin the best of all time.
- 36:36Speaker 4: It's over six to one.
- 36:38Speaker 3: Mahomes is second at less than five to one. In
- 36:41Speaker 3: playoff history, teams that score at least three touchdowns with
- 36:45Speaker 3: zero turnovers are one hundred.
- 36:46Speaker 4: And forty and nineteen.
- 36:49Speaker 3: Alan is the only quarterback to lose more than one
- 36:51Speaker 3: of those games. He has lost three of them, all
- 36:54Speaker 3: the last four years against City. So the case on
- 36:58Speaker 3: that part of this has closed. Josh alleners the best
- 37:00Speaker 3: quarterback never to start the Super Bowl.
- 37:03Speaker 4: The open question is being still only twenty nine. Is
- 37:06Speaker 4: there still another level he can take this too and.
- 37:09Speaker 1: Change that now now now here.
- 37:12Speaker 5: Here's one of the things that I first of all,
- 37:16Speaker 5: let's not skip over some of those stats DT.
- 37:20Speaker 1: Holy crap that.
- 37:22Speaker 5: I are the one about the one about the case losses.
- 37:26Speaker 5: The year he said, the year that they ended in
- 37:28Speaker 5: Casey losses, that's fourty five. I mean, we all know
- 37:30Speaker 5: what's going on. We only lost to Joe Burrow other
- 37:32Speaker 5: than fifteen twenty eight touchdowns and one turnover.
- 37:37Speaker 1: Twenty eight likes.
- 37:38Speaker 5: And he said, if that's across ten games at like
- 37:40Speaker 5: four hundred something. He said attempts, you know, he said
- 37:43Speaker 5: attempts in so that included passing attempts and running the ball.
- 37:47Speaker 1: Hold like, holy shit, DT, hold like.
- 37:52Speaker 2: It's not again. Started. It started with best quarterback to.
- 37:57Speaker 5: Not not get to not start a Super Bow, not
- 38:00Speaker 5: start one.
- 38:01Speaker 2: But then these are like all time playoff stats at
- 38:04Speaker 2: the end, like twenty eight and one is an all
- 38:07Speaker 2: time playoff stat. That's the best in NFL history in
- 38:10Speaker 2: the playoffs.
- 38:10Speaker 5: He's got twenty five touchdowns and four picks or whatever
- 38:14Speaker 5: it is in the playoffs period, not including like.
- 38:17Speaker 2: Thirteen playoff games. I didn't see a playoff game for
- 38:22Speaker 2: the majority of my life.
- 38:24Speaker 1: Yo, DT.
- 38:25Speaker 5: They said that the players that have gone on excuse me,
- 38:28Speaker 5: the play teams that have had three touchdowns and that's
- 38:31Speaker 5: what I put on Twitter zero turnovers.
- 38:35Speaker 1: That what do we What did they tell us? What
- 38:37Speaker 1: did they tell us?
- 38:38Speaker 5: Earlier in Josh Allen's career, he turns he's reckless, right,
- 38:43Speaker 5: he's reckless, and and this and that, and he sugar
- 38:45Speaker 5: sugar high. Josh, we saw that in Houston. He's pitching
- 38:48Speaker 5: the ball to Dawson. Not we get all that.
- 38:50Speaker 1: But it was crazy, I know. But he has calmed down.
- 38:54Speaker 1: He has changed.
- 38:55Speaker 5: If you guys want to give all the credits to
- 38:56Speaker 5: Joe Brady on that, fine, I don't no problem. You
- 38:59Speaker 5: guys want to give Joe Brady, you know I was
- 39:01Speaker 5: a dable guy, no problem. They listen for whatever reason,
- 39:04Speaker 5: whether it's Haley Steinfield, the queen of the Bathfield, whether
- 39:07Speaker 5: that's O Brady whatever, he has changed and he has
- 39:10Speaker 5: found a way to be more efficient with the football.
- 39:12Speaker 5: I still don't bank on turnovers being a stat that
- 39:16Speaker 5: you can pass on to every year. Did you remember
- 39:19Speaker 5: we fumbled the ball four times against Kansas City in
- 39:22Speaker 5: the Anacy Championship game and we got back all four
- 39:26Speaker 5: The ball is oblong, So I will never expect and
- 39:29Speaker 5: anticipate that the turnovers are going to be the same
- 39:32Speaker 5: every year.
- 39:33Speaker 1: It was a great year.
- 39:33Speaker 5: It was an historically low year for the offense DT
- 39:37Speaker 5: They are one hundred and forty and nineteen. If you
- 39:40Speaker 5: score three touchdowns to the playoffs, and you don't give
- 39:43Speaker 5: the ball to your opponent.
- 39:44Speaker 1: That was, like, I just it almost knocked me out
- 39:48Speaker 1: my seat. Man. I had like a come to Jesus
- 39:52Speaker 1: moment when.
- 39:52Speaker 5: I heard that shit last night. I was like, well,
- 39:54Speaker 5: I literally immediately made two posts. I immediately made two
- 39:57Speaker 5: posts on Twitter. It blew my mind.
- 40:00Speaker 2: The maybe the only logical explanation to this is the
- 40:04Speaker 2: new stadium will be on, not on like an Indian
- 40:07Speaker 2: barrel burial ground or something, and will the curse will
- 40:10Speaker 2: be lifted? I thought it was OJ. I thought it
- 40:14Speaker 2: was OJ last year and it wasn't.
- 40:16Speaker 1: House. That's the house built.
- 40:18Speaker 2: So if it's not OJ dying last year to lift
- 40:22Speaker 2: the curse, maybe it's the new stadium. Because like, what's
- 40:25Speaker 2: the other explanation other than other, some sort of other
- 40:30Speaker 2: force getting us like he is the best. He's not
- 40:33Speaker 2: even close to the top and been real good. He
- 40:35Speaker 2: has been by far the.
- 40:37Speaker 5: Best forty and nineteen. And that's what they preach to us.
- 40:43Speaker 5: We preach it to you know what I mean the
- 40:45Speaker 5: night and Bobby's teams of football. You know they're fourteen
- 40:47Speaker 5: you know, you know middle school and twelve U football
- 40:50Speaker 5: don't turn the ball over.
- 40:51Speaker 2: Caause winning percentage. If that's a winning percentage, it's like,
- 40:54Speaker 2: what what is that? I mean Nickel City, Now, don't
- 40:56Speaker 2: get me. It's like ninety five.
- 40:58Speaker 5: It's like percent that there's a lot of wins and
- 41:02Speaker 5: very few losses. And out of those nineteen losses, nobody
- 41:06Speaker 5: has more than one. He has three like he had.
- 41:09Speaker 5: Like it's just crazy. So to me, now, how did
- 41:11Speaker 5: I end that up on Twitter? And I know the
- 41:13Speaker 5: Twitter people go get ready to hit me up. I'm
- 41:15Speaker 5: not checking to it right now, so y'all could kiss
- 41:17Speaker 5: my black ass. But listen, I do know that a
- 41:19Speaker 5: lot of people will say it's not just on the defense,
- 41:24Speaker 5: Josh Allen had the ball last two years.
- 41:26Speaker 1: DT.
- 41:26Speaker 5: I've gotten bludgeoned with that recently on Twitter. I want
- 41:32Speaker 5: your take. I won't even say my take because if
- 41:36Speaker 5: you're asking for facts, did the Buffalo Bills and Josh
- 41:39Speaker 5: Allen and the offense have the ball the last two
- 41:41Speaker 5: years with a chance to win it? The answer to
- 41:43Speaker 5: that question is yes, they did. What happened after that, fine,
- 41:49Speaker 5: we can dissect it if you want. I tend to
- 41:51Speaker 5: think about what happened prior to that to make it
- 41:55Speaker 5: a close game. He can easily say we didn't score
- 41:58Speaker 5: enough points, no problems where it was, and even a
- 42:00Speaker 5: close game, what are the case? Maybe that's fine for me.
- 42:03Speaker 5: You already knows where I'm going.
- 42:04Speaker 1: Man.
- 42:05Speaker 5: I have a tough time continuing to give McDermott passes
- 42:08Speaker 5: because that he has injuries. I understand the injuries are
- 42:12Speaker 5: sometimes of reason and not an excuse.
- 42:14Speaker 1: Yeap, it's getting hard.
- 42:17Speaker 5: And that shit last night from Mike Greenberg yesterday that
- 42:20Speaker 5: made it even It was like a horse pill.
- 42:22Speaker 1: I gotta swallows that's hard, man.
- 42:25Speaker 2: It's a So my take is this, Rob, it's a
- 42:28Speaker 2: few defensive stops away from being a historic NFL team. Like,
- 42:35Speaker 2: it's a few defensive stops away from being, Oh, Josh
- 42:40Speaker 2: Allen's the great and he just runs through people and
- 42:42Speaker 2: the defense makes a few stops and they win every
- 42:44Speaker 2: game by at least fourteen, Like, it's a few defensive
- 42:48Speaker 2: stops away from being the greatest team in NFL history
- 42:51Speaker 2: because of seventeen. And that's what it is, and that's
- 42:54Speaker 2: what it comes down to, And that's the pressure on
- 42:56Speaker 2: Sean McDermott, and that's the pressure on draft in fourteen
- 42:58Speaker 2: fucking defensive players like I want like and not hearing
- 43:02Speaker 2: Ship really about anybody all preseason. And again I'm not
- 43:05Speaker 2: I'm not freaking out on the preseason, but I was
- 43:07Speaker 2: ready to hear about some dogs and I haven't heard ship, Rob,
- 43:10Speaker 2: you know, so like we're gonna see it in a month, right,
- 43:15Speaker 2: And and that's where it is gets very critical, because
- 43:21Speaker 2: there are a couple of stops away from winning these
- 43:24Speaker 2: games easily. Josh Allen gets the lead boom, you make
- 43:28Speaker 2: a few stops when we win fourteen easy, like, and
- 43:30Speaker 2: then oh, the Bills are crazy. The Bills are so
- 43:32Speaker 2: good the Bills. That was the craziest Bills team ever.
- 43:35Speaker 1: Right, But why so then? Why so?
- 43:37Speaker 5: Then?
- 43:37Speaker 1: Why?
- 43:37Speaker 5: Because I noticed not you and you're not on Twitter.
- 43:40Speaker 5: I get hit in the head with that. It's they
- 43:42Speaker 5: got He's got to do more, Sewn McDermott is dealing
- 43:45Speaker 5: with an injury. Real defense. He's Josh. It's on Josh
- 43:49Speaker 5: to do more. And I look at that ship.
- 43:50Speaker 2: And he could have He could have scored on those
- 43:52Speaker 2: last when he had the ball, he could have scored
- 43:54Speaker 2: on both of those.
- 43:56Speaker 1: He could have.
- 43:57Speaker 5: Okay, he clocked out of work in the SC championship game,
- 44:01Speaker 5: scoring twenty nine points on the road. You are not
- 44:03Speaker 5: going to ever get me to tell you that that
- 44:06Speaker 5: was not a good day. Yes, he started the game
- 44:08Speaker 5: shit shaky, He looked nervous. He threw he threw two
- 44:11Speaker 5: would be picks. I just watched the game the other day,
- 44:14Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago. He just he threw two
- 44:17Speaker 5: would be picks on the first fucking drive.
- 44:19Speaker 1: I get it.
- 44:21Speaker 5: He can do more. And yes, the offense has not
- 44:23Speaker 5: been perfect the last two years. When he had the
- 44:25Speaker 5: ball for a chance to go win it or you
- 44:27Speaker 5: know he had to go chance to tie it. You
- 44:28Speaker 5: and I were there bast misses the kick, no problem,
- 44:32Speaker 5: that's I mean, we felt pretty deflated.
- 44:34Speaker 2: Walking back to the garden, Chris Shan shoved into him
- 44:36Speaker 2: and the Oh.
- 44:37Speaker 1: Kay, we felt pretty bad.
- 44:38Speaker 5: I remember the fact that I remember the fact that
- 44:41Speaker 5: in that game that they were like inches away from
- 44:45Speaker 5: scoring a touchdown and making a blowout, and then All
- 44:48Speaker 5: pro Po comes up with an incredible force fumble and
- 44:52Speaker 5: then on a fourth down, my head coach, instead of
- 44:56Speaker 5: putting out the all one quarterback, puts out to bar
- 44:58Speaker 5: handling and run a stake. And that was right in
- 45:00Speaker 5: front of our faces. Wasn't in my line that sext
- 45:04Speaker 5: year one to four stand up? It was right in
- 45:07Speaker 5: front of our faces, And you and I look at
- 45:09Speaker 5: each other like what what? What the fuck was that?
- 45:12Speaker 2: So he's that?
- 45:14Speaker 5: And then the next year, last year, they want to
- 45:16Speaker 5: tell you about injuries and that Dalton Kate dropped the ball.
- 45:19Speaker 5: Oh I'm sorry that other year, don't forget that Stefan
- 45:21Speaker 5: Diggs dropped the ball, and you know all that Steffan
- 45:23Speaker 5: Biggs Hay dropped the no problem. And then the next year,
- 45:26Speaker 5: last year, it's it's Kinkaid drops the ball and people don't.
- 45:29Speaker 2: Talk about last year. Last year he's a forty yard
- 45:33Speaker 2: dime to Mac Collins away from getting blown out. Last
- 45:37Speaker 2: year they were on that roll. Like if we didn't
- 45:40Speaker 2: score right with mac Collins before the first half and.
- 45:43Speaker 1: Got score stop, you talk about that pretty big. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 45:46Speaker 1: yeah yeah.
- 45:46Speaker 2: That we were on the verds there and what did
- 45:50Speaker 2: he do. He brings us back, and he always brings
- 45:52Speaker 2: us back. We're never out of it with seventeen. But
- 45:55Speaker 2: like if we just had right, it just went getting
- 45:58Speaker 2: more clear, more clear, more clear of here, Rob, if
- 46:01Speaker 2: we just had a little bit a bite, a little
- 46:03Speaker 2: bit of stop, we'd be the greatest team of all
- 46:05Speaker 2: time because of him. And so that's what it is.
- 46:08Speaker 2: It is on him, It is on it is on SD.
- 46:11Speaker 2: It is on SD. And as much as I in
- 46:14Speaker 2: Hard Knocks this week when he talked about he had
- 46:17Speaker 2: that whole speech about this guy came in, he fucking
- 46:20Speaker 2: threw the chair through the window and we all got
- 46:22Speaker 2: pumped up and we went out there we won whatever.
- 46:25Speaker 2: And then the next week the coach ain't obviously breaking
- 46:28Speaker 2: another window and it was just kind of whatever. So
- 46:31Speaker 2: I need consistency. I get that.
- 46:33Speaker 1: I get that, but.
- 46:37Speaker 2: Yes, there needs to be a sort of desperation. Rob
- 46:41Speaker 2: To be honest, there needs to be a desperation. This
- 46:45Speaker 2: dude is the best ever statistically, This dude is the
- 46:49Speaker 2: best ever with the media. This dude is the best
- 46:52Speaker 2: ever fit to buffalo a thoroughbred dude. This dude is
- 46:57Speaker 2: the best ever. This is desperado mode. To make a
- 47:01Speaker 2: fucking stop and get us the ring.
- 47:04Speaker 5: Oh no, they tell us DT. I'm not gonna keep
- 47:06Speaker 5: pandering to Twitter advocated.
- 47:11Speaker 2: They that set me off. That set me off because
- 47:17Speaker 2: I got I'm gonna be seeing a lot of family
- 47:19Speaker 2: this weekend from out of town, and they're gonna be
- 47:21Speaker 2: talking on un educated Josh Allen shit and and that
- 47:26Speaker 2: that's gonna pop in and I'm gonna says the greatest self.
- 47:30Speaker 5: It's the greatest self it Listen, injuries are not I'm
- 47:35Speaker 5: saying this for nicol City crew. I'm saying it for
- 47:38Speaker 5: Bill's Bonfia and but mainly I'm saying it for my
- 47:41Speaker 5: Twitter fighters. I love y'all all, Bill's Bofia, and I
- 47:44Speaker 5: promise you I can continue to box y'all have the stamina.
- 47:47Speaker 5: Getting ready to turn forty on Sunday. I promise you
- 47:51Speaker 5: that I love to argue. I promise y'all can fight.
- 47:53Speaker 1: Y'all.
- 47:54Speaker 5: Injuries are not always an excuse. Sometimes they are a reason. However,
- 47:58Speaker 5: if your expertise is the defensive side of the football,
- 48:02Speaker 5: then I do need you to come up with something.
- 48:04Speaker 5: The margins are thin. We are not talking about being outclassed.
- 48:09Speaker 5: It's not the AFC Championship game the first time against
- 48:11Speaker 5: Casey when they were clearly the better person. I like
- 48:14Speaker 5: to real on McDermott that he kicked too many field goals.
- 48:16Speaker 5: We still was getting our ass whooped that day even
- 48:18Speaker 5: if we had gone for him, unless we get every
- 48:20Speaker 5: single one and we go for it every time that
- 48:22Speaker 5: I wanted to, and we didn't. He kicked a lot
- 48:23Speaker 5: of field goals. Yes, it would have made the game closer.
- 48:26Speaker 5: We were not as good as Kansas City that year.
- 48:28Speaker 5: After that, from thirteen seconds on, we have been their peer.
- 48:32Speaker 5: We are on their level. Don't get it twisted. Bill's mafia.
- 48:36Speaker 5: Don't get it twisted. Nicol City crew. Patrick Mahomes has
- 48:39Speaker 5: the rings. He is not above or elite in respects
- 48:43Speaker 5: to he's looking down on Josh Allen he has the rings,
- 48:46Speaker 5: and his fan base will tell you that he's better
- 48:48Speaker 5: than Josh Allen, and a lot of the media will
- 48:50Speaker 5: tell you that. And I understand that he's not a
- 48:51Speaker 5: better quarterback than our quarterback. Seventeen is the most gift
- 48:55Speaker 5: athletically gifted quarterback that God has put on this earth,
- 48:58Speaker 5: I think, and I told y'all a couple of weeks ago,
- 49:00Speaker 5: I can't tell the future. I play the lotto, so
- 49:03Speaker 5: I don't know who's coming down the line. But right
- 49:06Speaker 5: now and from the past, Josh Allen is that motherfucker.
- 49:09Speaker 5: So because he is that dude, I need everything to
- 49:13Speaker 5: be urgent. I need everything to be desperate.
- 49:15Speaker 1: DT.
- 49:16Speaker 5: You hit on that word, and that strikes a chord
- 49:18Speaker 5: with me as we begin to wrap up tonight, I
- 49:20Speaker 5: need everything to be desperate. That's why I didn't like
- 49:24Speaker 5: Everybody Eats, and I still don't like. I have already
- 49:26Speaker 5: conceded I will shut the fuck up if it works
- 49:28Speaker 5: again two years in a row, I will not talk
- 49:30Speaker 5: about everybody eats if it works again. With Joe Brady,
- 49:33Speaker 5: I want him to have weapons. I'm so happy that
- 49:36Speaker 5: James is back because he has another weapon. I want
- 49:38Speaker 5: him to have everything at his disposal so that we
- 49:41Speaker 5: can blow out Kansas City. We can't blow out Kansas
- 49:43Speaker 5: City giving up thirty five points per game every time
- 49:47Speaker 5: we see them.
- 49:49Speaker 1: That doesn't That doesn't make sense to me.
- 49:51Speaker 5: So if y'all don't want me to lay it at
- 49:52Speaker 5: mc dermott, twitter fam, then then tell me where else
- 49:56Speaker 5: to lay it other than just injury. It's injuries every
- 49:58Speaker 5: year DT, Yes, Christian beenther Wick down, what did you say?
- 50:03Speaker 5: You had a perfect rebuttal to that he should have
- 50:06Speaker 5: known that he was not gonna last the game, Coach Elm,
- 50:10Speaker 5: I don't.
- 50:11Speaker 2: Seeing that he was close to perfect, close to perfect,
- 50:15Speaker 2: close to perfect, better than great. You're never gonna be perfect,
- 50:18Speaker 2: close to perfect is what it takes, and shit like that, right.
- 50:24Speaker 5: I just I just have a hard time every year
- 50:26Speaker 5: giving him a pass for injuries. I'm I'm now, you're not.
- 50:29Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be able to do that every year.
- 50:30Speaker 5: And thirteen seconds wasn't even about injuries. So I'm just
- 50:33Speaker 5: not gonna keep giving him this past every single season.
- 50:37Speaker 5: That's me personally. Y'all don't have to agree with me,
- 50:39Speaker 5: and I love him. We don't agree. So that's fine now.
- 50:42Speaker 1: As we begin to wrap him.
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- 51:42Speaker 5: We're ready, We're ready for you. Bill's Mafi. We're ready
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- 51:47Speaker 5: show them some love, really really popular storefront over there
- 51:50Speaker 5: on Elmwood, Queen City Vintage, DT.
- 51:53Speaker 1: Talk to me about your tailgate report.
- 51:56Speaker 5: I heard that you were you were entrusted with some
- 52:00Speaker 5: responsibilities that a man in his life, he can only
- 52:05Speaker 5: be hoped to be honored at least once. Now some
- 52:07Speaker 5: men are, you know, that just so popular that they
- 52:10Speaker 5: get honored more than once. I've been honored once. Well,
- 52:13Speaker 5: you know, shout out to my best man, Ace Boogie.
- 52:16Speaker 5: You were honored to be the best man. Part of
- 52:19Speaker 5: your responsibilities is making sure that that bachelor party goes good.
- 52:22Speaker 1: DT Crew tailgate report. Holla at the crew.
- 52:27Speaker 2: How did the City Vintage tailgate report? We had my boy,
- 52:32Speaker 2: my mad mad Kai last week, the avid listener every
- 52:36Speaker 2: week saw him and his fiance Page are listening. But
- 52:38Speaker 2: big diehard Vikings fans. But that's okay, that's okay. Uh,
- 52:42Speaker 2: you know they they support the bills in the FC.
- 52:44Speaker 2: And I've been traveling with them the games to Minneapolis
- 52:47Speaker 2: to Chicago last year to you know, to see the
- 52:50Speaker 2: Vikings play as well as they come to Bills games
- 52:52Speaker 2: with me. So yeah, was honored as the best man.
- 52:55Speaker 2: We went out to Geneva. I'm a Lake Ohio. A
- 52:59Speaker 2: nice little time, kind of not too far from Buffalo,
- 53:02Speaker 2: only about a two hour.
- 53:03Speaker 5: Drive, about two hours right from Buffalo, right north of Cleveland,
- 53:09Speaker 5: right past Erie and right off the ninety, not too far.
- 53:13Speaker 2: You're looking right on Lake Ontario or not excuse me,
- 53:16Speaker 2: lake Erie. Sorry, And it's just like a it's like
- 53:21Speaker 2: an old school, like got a little carnival vibe, got
- 53:25Speaker 2: a little like beach town laketown vibe to it. All
- 53:28Speaker 2: the bars are like indoor outdoor, uh, live music going.
- 53:32Speaker 2: There's all these places you can like go up and
- 53:34Speaker 2: like order something to eat right on the strip, you know,
- 53:38Speaker 2: kind of like that type of style. Was was really cool.
- 53:41Speaker 2: We had a great group with us, nice place we
- 53:45Speaker 2: rented it. It was a it's a nice town, good weekend,
- 53:47Speaker 2: just to kind of get with everybody. As you get older,
- 53:50Speaker 2: these times are limited, so we cherish from even more.
- 53:54Speaker 2: And I think, you know, I can I can speak
- 53:56Speaker 2: for the boys. We had a great time. Speak for
- 53:59Speaker 2: the bachelor guy. He agree, you had a great time.
- 54:02Speaker 2: Now again, nothing too crazy, nothing too well. I mean
- 54:04Speaker 2: it depends on your definition are crazy. But uh, you know, but.
- 54:08Speaker 1: Nothing we did.
- 54:10Speaker 2: It wasn't boozy, it wasn't it wasn't nice dinners. It
- 54:13Speaker 2: was just the boys getting together for a weekend and
- 54:15Speaker 2: having a good time. And and we really did. I
- 54:17Speaker 2: I'd recommend it to all the listeners. Geneva on the lake, Ohio.
- 54:21Speaker 2: It can be. You know, there's wineries there, there's bars there,
- 54:23Speaker 2: there's you can you can get a nice like Shelle
- 54:26Speaker 2: right on the water. You can get a winery spot.
- 54:29Speaker 2: It's it's a lot of options, you know, take the lady,
- 54:31Speaker 2: take the boys, take the gals, whatever you gotta do.
- 54:33Speaker 2: Only two hours away. We had a great weekend, great time.
- 54:37Speaker 2: But I'll tell you, rob uh, you know, as you're
- 54:40Speaker 2: coming up on the big forty this weekend. I'm into
- 54:43Speaker 2: I'm well into my thirties now, and.
- 54:45Speaker 6: This week was was a you know, looking up, look
- 54:48Speaker 6: up at the sky and say save it, save it
- 54:53Speaker 6: for Bill's season, because you don't got it no more,
- 54:55Speaker 6: big dog, you don't got it no more. Big dog,
- 54:58Speaker 6: a couple of days in a row, just your cards,
- 55:01Speaker 6: as as this, as this.
- 55:02Speaker 2: A grown man, it just ain't happening no more. So
- 55:06Speaker 2: we did it. We left it all out on the field,
- 55:08Speaker 2: if you will. It's Friday. It's Friday. We're back a
- 55:11Speaker 2: week later.
- 55:14Speaker 1: Out there.
- 55:15Speaker 2: But it was a blast, man, it was a blast.
- 55:19Speaker 2: Shout out to Kai, Shout out to Kai. Page is
- 55:21Speaker 2: gonna be a great wedding and coming up this October,
- 55:24Speaker 2: and uh, yeah, we had a blast.
- 55:25Speaker 1: That's what's up.
- 55:26Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds like you're you're approaching where it's listening.
- 55:30Speaker 5: If you dragging ass by the time you get back home,
- 55:32Speaker 5: you're not able to recover your your recovery time.
- 55:35Speaker 1: You got to get in the cold tub.
- 55:36Speaker 5: You gotta, you gotta, you gotta actually work to get
- 55:39Speaker 5: back to square one.
- 55:40Speaker 1: Man. I love it, and I love it. I love it.
- 55:43Speaker 5: I love watching you get older, get more mature, and
- 55:45Speaker 5: and yeah, I love that you're facing that realization because now,
- 55:48Speaker 5: like you just said, my birthday Sunday, I got to
- 55:50Speaker 5: face the realization that there's gonna be a four h
- 55:52Speaker 5: in front of my age for the next decade. So like, yeah,
- 55:56Speaker 5: I got it. It's all good. It's hey, listen, it's healthy, DT.
- 55:59Speaker 5: Don't go too hard. You can't do it all the time. Listen,
- 56:02Speaker 5: save it for the Bills season. Like you said, I
- 56:03Speaker 5: love I love it man. You absolutely shout out the
- 56:06Speaker 5: guy in his lovely bride. Their wedding coming up, and
- 56:10Speaker 5: I'm glad that you fulfilled your duties for sure. Nichol
- 56:12Speaker 5: City Crew Tail great report on my m DT.
- 56:14Speaker 1: It is back.
- 56:16Speaker 5: Summer is over the oldest Kings Bobby and Nate. They
- 56:20Speaker 5: went on a damn grand tour. It seemed like they
- 56:22Speaker 5: were all over. They went to see their point, then
- 56:25Speaker 5: they went to Buffalo. They were gone for ten days.
- 56:27Speaker 5: They just got back last night. I've had my youngest king, Quincy.
- 56:32Speaker 5: He's been with me. He talks about flag football and
- 56:34Speaker 5: ask me when it's going to start almost every day,
- 56:38Speaker 5: if not every day, every other day when it's flagbo in.
- 56:42Speaker 1: So it's after I go back to school. Yeah. And
- 56:45Speaker 1: the September sun and except okay, what one I mean
- 56:48Speaker 1: amped up.
- 56:49Speaker 5: So we got went and got him some cleats on
- 56:52Speaker 5: on Tuesday, me and his little sister Princess Ivy, we
- 56:55Speaker 5: went and got him some cleats. Got him right. He's
- 56:57Speaker 5: ready to go. He's got his mouth guard, he's ready
- 57:00Speaker 5: to go. So he's so he's good to go for
- 57:02Speaker 5: the future. Tomorrow is the jamboree. I have news to
- 57:06Speaker 5: report to Nichol City Crew. H Nate Crippen, my middle
- 57:10Speaker 5: king has been named QB one.
- 57:13Speaker 2: Let's go for his.
- 57:14Speaker 1: Twelve you team.
- 57:15Speaker 5: So I'm excited about that. He's QB one. He had
- 57:21Speaker 5: to earn it and and I'm excited about the opportunity
- 57:24Speaker 5: for him. I don't coach him anymore. I literally was
- 57:26Speaker 5: talking to him last night and I was like, do
- 57:28Speaker 5: you know why I don't coach anymore? And he was like,
- 57:31Speaker 5: and he said something, and I was like no. I
- 57:32Speaker 5: was like, I said, do I sometimes make you nervous
- 57:34Speaker 5: when I coach you basketball?
- 57:35Speaker 1: And he said yes. I said, that's exactly why I
- 57:37Speaker 1: don't coach you in football. I want to. I just
- 57:39Speaker 1: want to let him be free, dt let the coaches
- 57:41Speaker 1: get him. I'll ad on the sideline. I want him.
- 57:44Speaker 5: I wanted to spread his wings and be as free
- 57:47Speaker 5: as possible. So he's got his little jamboree. It's like
- 57:49Speaker 5: a little it's like their preseason down here in Charlotte.
- 57:52Speaker 5: They got the little preseason. They'll play a couple of
- 57:53Speaker 5: games against them teams, shortened games. It's not a full game,
- 57:57Speaker 5: it's short and it's literally like joint practice. It's like
- 57:59Speaker 5: a a little mini preseason game for all of the
- 58:02Speaker 5: kids in the county. And they'll be doing that the
- 58:04Speaker 5: respective schools. So we got the Jampurie tomorrow. I coach
- 58:08Speaker 5: his same AAU basketball team during a tournament. We've got
- 58:12Speaker 5: a back to school tournament. So Nate can't. He's QB one, listen,
- 58:16Speaker 5: I got obligations. I can't, but I was. I was
- 58:18Speaker 5: still at practice last night for my AAU team that
- 58:20Speaker 5: he is on, and I will be at the at
- 58:22Speaker 5: the tournament tomorrow. We got a back to school tournament
- 58:24Speaker 5: tomorrow morning. Really excited about it. Some teams there coming.
- 58:28Speaker 5: My team looked good. I mean, I worked I worked
- 58:30Speaker 5: them hard last night. I worked them hard. We talked
- 58:32Speaker 5: about discipline. We talked about respect as we get back
- 58:35Speaker 5: to school, Respecting your parents, respecting your teachers, respecting even
- 58:39Speaker 5: your peers, the kids that you go to school with.
- 58:41Speaker 5: And uh, and we're ready. We got to back to
- 58:42Speaker 5: school tournament tomorrow. So I'm that's that's me man. And
- 58:45Speaker 5: then I guess Sunday, I guess the clock on turn
- 58:47Speaker 5: and if turned.
- 58:48Speaker 2: Hey, oh let's go rock. Yeah, man, and happy early
- 58:54Speaker 2: birthday for sure. And I got to give a birthday
- 58:56Speaker 2: shot out. Well it will be on the tailgate you
- 58:58Speaker 2: know report next week. But Grandma will one hundredth birthday
- 59:02Speaker 2: the centennial this weekend. So heading down to Panama and
- 59:08Speaker 2: Territory one hundred and fifty rsv ped for the hundredth birthday.
- 59:13Speaker 2: It's going to be a banger rob plus people relatives
- 59:17Speaker 2: I've never met, So looking forward to it.
- 59:18Speaker 1: Tomorrow.
- 59:19Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tomorrow.
- 59:20Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow.
- 59:22Speaker 5: Congratulations Then to Grandma ruptsick. That's an accomplishment. You want
- 59:27Speaker 5: us to act like it's not what they're talking about.
- 59:28Speaker 5: And he was out there walking at the Hall of
- 59:31Speaker 5: Fame game, I said, how many y'all? Motherbucker's gonna be
- 59:34Speaker 5: walking around one hundred like some of my y'all might
- 59:36Speaker 5: be long six feet deep. Such an accomplishment. Awesome that
- 59:40Speaker 5: she's lived this great life. So congratulations then, yeah, absolutely,
- 59:43Speaker 5: happy birthday to her. I can't even think, like, I
- 59:46Speaker 5: can't even I can't even fathom be around four hundred
- 59:49Speaker 5: years D two. That's that's wild to me. Man, Listen
- 59:52Speaker 5: out there, nicholsony crew Bill's Mafia. Listen out there, listen.
- 59:57Speaker 5: We got we got some football this weekend. DT's mad
- 59:59Speaker 5: about it. You don't have to be mad about it.
- 1:00:00Speaker 5: You don't have to be a curmudget like him. The
- 1:00:02Speaker 5: Bills play Sunday night, eight o'clock. Just pray Josh Allen
- 1:00:05Speaker 5: doesn't play, play the starters don't play, and pray that
- 1:00:08Speaker 5: everyone gets out of that game healthy. That's all you
- 1:00:10Speaker 5: need to really worry about in the preseason. I understand
- 1:00:12Speaker 5: sometimes we get a little bit hyperbolic, we get a
- 1:00:15Speaker 5: little bit amped up in a little bit nervous about
- 1:00:18Speaker 5: what's going on in the preseason. It's all it's all good,
- 1:00:20Speaker 5: everybody stays healthy. It's the practice stuff. That's what I
- 1:00:23Speaker 5: want from from Hard. I'm thinking of the slur fest.
- 1:00:27Speaker 5: I want to see what's going on in practice. I
- 1:00:28Speaker 5: want more behind the scenes. I want to see how
- 1:00:30Speaker 5: they're preparing for the season. That's what matters. How the
- 1:00:33Speaker 5: reps that you're getting are they quality reps? What are
- 1:00:35Speaker 5: you putting on tape? As the coaches say, That's what
- 1:00:37Speaker 5: I'm interested in, so we'll see. I'm not worried about it.
- 1:00:41Speaker 5: I've got the police's, I've taken the police's and prege.
- 1:00:44Speaker 5: It's all good, DT, it's all good.
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with it. Let's go, let's get through the weekend,
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: and uh yeah, stay healthy.
- 1:00:51Speaker 5: Stay healthy. Listen out there, listen. Bill's my Vetnico City crew.
- 1:00:54Speaker 5: Spread love not hate. These were my bills thoughts, set
- 1:00:57Speaker 5: out loud, hit them with the go bills, DT.
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: Go bills one and one. I guess, go bills, go Bill.
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: I love it.